Anyone else disappointed in this? It went from an absolute must buy to wait for a sale.
Honestly, what is the reason for this? It's so weird releasing such a big open world game with AI companions instead of players.
DRAGONS DOGMA 2 NO COOP CONFIRMED
social homosexuals be seething lmao
games pander to us sigma males cope
I have no idea why coop makes you schizos seethe so much. Dd2 will be a great game regardless but coop would've been sick.
Is that so? This game was such a gigantic flop that people assumed capcom killed the series because of it
The first game was a flop, it wasn't until dedicated autismos got the sales up years later and years of begging did Capcom bother giving funding to DD2. DDO was a fairly successful JP only MMO
Idk why co-op takes nothing away from the single player experience except being able to explore the world at the same time with your friend/gf
Because coop means you have to schedule something with your friends online or even go into public matchmaking, and that's a fricking pain in the ass, I'd rather deal with pawns and their quirks than my dumb homosexual friend disconnecting every 30 minutes
this, co-op hates are legitimately moronic lmao
Why do coopgays keep forcing coop into every single games?
>into every single games?
Are you delusional? I only wanted it in dd2 since it fits in so well lol schizo
Why didn't you play dragons dogma online then? You do know that the public release has been up for at least 2 years right
Literally don't care and no one plays this shitty mod anyway
Literally doesn't matter
The absolute state of this coping motherfrucker. KEK
No it not. The point of the Pawn system is for you to manipulate the AI to do what you want, failure also a part of the experience. Having Co-op just make the experience worse since human players are either dumb, troll or too good for it to be fun. And let not going to how you have to balance the bosses around Co-op for it to be fun instead of just pumping up the health of the bosses
>t. secondary trannies that have never played the first games
>Their kind hate women and mirrors both!
I cleared the first game 3 times
t. filtered tourist.
co op ruins balance
>balance
>in a pve game
>what is monster hunter
>warframe hello..
Yes, this is precisely why people who like Dragon's Dogma don't want the new one to be coop.
And hiring your friends lvl 100 e-girl pawn doesn't?
They can't afford that riftstone cost
Friends pawns don't cost RC at all, regardless of level.
You never played the game did you? Hiring a pawn that's a high level than you costs rift cores and the cost scales with the level gap. You're not going to be able to hire a pawn that's way above your level at a low level
Confirmed for never having any friends who played the game, pawns made by people on your friends list are always free.
I decided to start a fresh save once and I used my friends high level pawn for a bit before deciding I didn't want to use a pawn that was so over leveled.
dumb Black person don't talk about shit you don't understand.
having a pawn 25+ levels above you means you earn 25% less xp, 50% less for 2 pawns
And?
>co op ruins balance
PvP ruins balance. Souls games have shown that PvE is always sacrificed for PvP.
Does it really? I recall Dark Souls being balanced so that there were level windows to prevent summoning/invading dependent on the area and the host's level.
Granted, you still had min/max players.
They're referring to the fact that a bunch of weapons in Souls games get nerfed based on PVP stats which negatively affects the PVE side of things despite those two ostensibly being separate.
Basically, x weapon is very strong in PVP regardless off its PVE qualities, gets nerfed into the dirt and becomes useless for both despite the player using it never engaging with PVP.
Just let me ruin my game then, stay single and enjoy yourself with your superior balance
>this
Dying Light 2 is a good example of a dev designing a single player game and then bending over backwards to incorporate full co-op. What's supposed to be a tense survival horror game has virtually no consequences for death, no manual saving in a game with branching quests. Not to mention no characters in the game acknowledge your group and the story is centred around a single character working alone. It's like they turned a potential 8/10 into a 4/10 all for a feature only 30% of their playerbase even touches.
Pawns in DD1 were good enough and if they find a way to integrate them more into the game fulfilling more npc roles (enemies, merchants etc). If co-op is added, it should be limited
>What's supposed to be a tense survival horror game
It wasn't, kys moronic mongrel
The game has a day/night cycle designed around giving the player higher rewards for taking on greater danger. This system is rendered pointless when you realise that dying simply respawns you nearby with no lost gear and a minor xp debuff. Not to mention bosses and quest related enemies don't have their health reset after death. This is done so co-op players have a consistent worldspace and a player dying or reloading a save doesn't disrupt the session, but also means the game is devoid of challenge on any difficulty.
My point is Dying Light wants to introduce tension and greater difficulty, but in order to make full co-op feasible they design the game in a way that harms the single player experience. This could easily be the case with DD2. People don't seem to understand that just adding co-op means making alot of concessions with how you design your world.
Never palyed dying but the it sounds like it was designed for coop and just sucked.
Well you could make that argument for 1, but 2 had branching RPG quests and shit, something that doesn't work too well in co-op and something the devs put alot of work into (seriously the game has a pretty elaborate branching plot, better than most fully fledged "RPGs" in terms of choice and consequence). Overall I think the game is a mess of conflicting ideas and Techland should just stick to Dead Island style mindless co-op games.
Point is full co-op is a nice feature, but requires the dev to make alot of concessions to make it work. I assume Capcom's goal with DD2 is to make a fairly cohesive WRPG style game with alot of player interaction with the world and NPCs. That's hard to do when you have a gang of morons following you around, killing NPCs and breaking quests. I feel like the only dev who's managed to merge co-op and single player into a cohesive RPG is Larian, but all their games are turn based.
>That's hard to do when you have a gang of morons following you around, killing NPCs and breaking quests.
Don't NPC's respawn after a week in the original DD? I don't think there is a single NPC you can kill that would break a quest, only maybe end the time gated ones.
>Not to mention no characters in the game acknowledge your group and the story is centred around a single character working alone.
It is a good thing dragon's dogma is centered around you and your party (of pawns), because we can have the other players just be ignored because as far as the host's world is concerned, they're pawns.
>Implying Dragon's Dogma is a balanced game.
Also, it would ruins pacing & atmosphere to "appeal to a wider audience".
It'd also completely ruin the pawn system, renting, gifting, and the community around it.
Coop is how I know Space Marine 2 is going to suck
>Anyone else disappointed in this?
No, nobody else is, I'm excited about it. They're not wasting time on bullshit co-op mechanics so they can actually realize the game's original vision. Co-op being in would make me lose all interest since it would signal that they only greenlit DD2 to trend chase Souls popularity and not because Itsuno actually had free reign to do what he wanted to.
Yup. Coop signals to me that the best experience is if you have 3 buddies with free time and a schedules line up not to out level/gear grind you etc. a hassle.
Dragon's Dogma is, at its core, a single player experience. It was always supposed to be an RPG with Bulletein Board-like systems, even ten years before actual development began.
Dragon's Dogma was never finished, but this time around they're going to make the game they wanted to in the first place.
This.
I could at most see them implementing Souls style messages, but anything more would betray the "BBS RPG" concept that the game was founded on.
you could stick message boards in town.
like you could post a message about a ogre being found in Tricklebrook cave and other players could get a quest to slay a ogre there by reading your message.
But then you'd just get some butthole posting "ELDER OGRE IN EVERY CAVE EVERYWHERE ALL THE TIME"
>Try Finger But Hole
>Joining the bandit guild lets you post (false) quests that lead to bandit ambushes that the player has to survive.
L U D O
Please ignore this thread
This is a shazam thread typed by discord troony hand
sage
Dragon's dogma is literally perfect as is. You coop gays can die. There's absolutely nothing you can change to improve in the game.
You'll have to git good for once, imagine that.
We know you're not actually disappointed. You're just looking for something to complain about and you'd whine about co-op being in the game otherwise.
in the garbage its goes would be a day 1 if it had coop but at least i got exoprimal
What is it with these kinds of threads? Where do they keep coming from?
>Where do they keep coming from?
Election tourists.
Thank God, for me it was a relief. Frick other people, frick GAAS, frick online only bullshit covenants.
discord troons out in full force again
sage goes on all fields
>no co-op in the first game
If you want co-op, play FFXIV.
>DRAGONS DOGMA 2 NO COOP CONFIRMED
Dragon's Dogma was NEVER a Co-Op game. You just hired pawns who were npcs, with set skills, abilities, experience, gear, etc. it was never a co-op game. Ever. At all. Literally.
DDON existed, man
>DDON existed, man
A gigantic mistake since it wasn't released in the West, for some really moronic and unknown reason. So it actually doesn't count.
Yes, it was an MMO with no story content. Who fricking cares.
And gutted out classes, like if you were going from Fighter to Warrior
You loss sum stuff and specialize on other stuff
DDON was a MMO
not a coop game
>the game designed specifically for online multiplayer has multiplayer
>therefore the singleplayer game must have multiplayer
DDON wasn't a coop game either.
It had coop raids, yes, but 99% of the game's content was done solo with pawns.
Why would you talk so confidently about something you know literally NOTHING about. The ENTIRE GAME(minus rescuing pawns) was doable coop. I literally played through every season.
Just moronic and wrong.Both fighter and warrior had a ton of content with warrior being remade into one of the best classes design wise.
What the actual frick is wrong with you morons lmao. There was a story with a ton of story content(most of it sucked save the end of each season)
Why is this community so fricking moronic
>Why would you talk so confidently about something you know literally NOTHING about. The ENTIRE GAME(minus rescuing pawns) was doable coop. I literally played through every season.
Because I actually played the game instead of LARPing?
Two players + two main pawns was peak fun. Seeing your main pawn helping the other guy and say some (generic) line was nice.
That does sound like a really good experience and probably the most I'd take for co-op in DD. Two bros and their pawnbawds going around questing would be cool as frick.
how easy is it to change builds in dragons dogma 1?
You just go to the city inn
Unless you're trying to go from pure blue to pure red/yellow or vice-versa it's very easy, it just costs JP which you get a surplus of and can easily farm too if you know how it works.
Pure red to blue is a bad idea because outside of your weapon there frick all else that will boost your magic pool. From Blue to Red is a snap if you have a large collection of BBI gear. I've done everything from solo unarmed runs to bashing Daimon into paste with a big hammer as 10 Fighter, 11-200 Sorc.
No. have a nice day zoom Black person. This game is for DD chads.
smarr independento company prease understand
Please go play another lesser game
Yeah I'll go play elden ring since they even as a smaller company can implement proper online coop in an open world fantasy game.
I don't care about co-op but they've backed off entirely from 'show, don't tell' marketing which is what made DMC5 so hype. I think diehard fans will be ok, but I got an odd feeling about this one.
I was disappointment in the showcase. It felt flat. The only positive was the confirmation of no-coop.
it is plausible that it will come as a separate playfield DLC per the original BBS RPG drafts for the Infinite Tower, or else that DDON 2 will come into being and get a full Western release this time after DD2 has gone through its full postrelease cycle
falseflagging ShazamBlack folk pretending to be viciously anti-coop and pro-coop will seethe and hang themselves no matter what and I will point and laugh as anons piss on their graves
i did not want co-op
I do want dragons dogma online to return
Co-op always means a shitty campaign so this is a good thing
Yeah I agree it's pretty stupid. I mean most games have it so why not add it
I have friends who would love to play coop but since it's single player they won't even touch it.
Social gaming is on the rise and they should embrace it
What is with you parasocial morons wanting stupid shit like coop tacked on to every game
For me is offline everything.
Because I like it when my GF carries me through games.
The great normalhomosexual filtering. DAY ONE BUY
>no co-op slop
holy kino
literally pre-ordering right now
thank you Itsuno-sama
>we just want to get married goy
>why do you care about what we do!
>HOW WILL IT AFFECT YOU IN ANY WAY!
it's always the same tactics with these homosexuals
there is no timeline in which adding co-op 'doesn't change the base game' for the worse
DD would be ruined with coop
have a nice day
>It went from an absolute must buy to wait for a sale.
just reading this made me dumber
So... Arisens either have the choice of getting their heart back, or frick around the world as ageless immortals who could potentially become one of the most powerful beings in the world, either with their Pawn, or solo, or alternating, etc.?
The Dragon would steal their beloved to provoke a battle. The Arisen would have to let them die and do whatever they wanted to do. Meanwhile the Dragon wreaks more havoc, more devastation, the Arisen would be branded a coward and traitor. The Dragon would pursue the Arisen and force a confrontation.
Fool the dragon into taking some pleb as my beloved, then go off and actually go be with my beloved afterwards. Get played nerd! Yes I am aware you cannot game the system like this.
I mean, BBI showed you can game the system as long you don't have any plans to actually return to your timeline and or dimension
But you can't game it by letting the dragon take someone else and then going to be with your actual beloved.
Yeah, I would say fug everything and travel with ur beloved-pawn to somewhere that's close enough to BBI and live forever in solitude but I'd be going deeper into a "if" scenario and only Itsuno would be aughtistic enough to answer it
You say that but I am very curious as to how it would play out if the Arisen was a psychopath narcissist. The frick is the Dragon gonna do?
>The frick is the Dragon gonna do?
Get another Arisen until someone finally kills him, and if for some reason the new arisen is also a psycho the dragon will just going to keep making arisens. We were gud enuff to actually beat Grigori in the first try and with that the other two arisens actually aged up to their real age
That or he just dumpsters them like he did Elysion.
Yeah, those poor folks that tried to get back their heart didn't grind enough to beat it
>would steal their beloved to provoke a battle
Psychopathic, Narcissistic, True neutral Arisens: Literally Who™?
You could go unbothered by said stuff until the dragon decides to pick another Arisen and hope for the best that the new Arisen doesnt kill him
Or go to an island out of your dimension to live as a bum
Yes, with the price being the most valued person to them.
new screenshot. children confirmed I guess
I always like a bit of realism in my rpgs. kids are definitely a part of a society. a kidless society is fricking weird and will be dead wtihin 1 generation.
kinda how fallout3 and 4 didn't have any fricking farms providing for the few 100 or so npcs.
>a kidless society is fricking weird
Weirder than a society that has kids where you can indiscriminately murder everyone EXCEPT the kids, who are invincible?
I'm pretty sure ratings associations still don't allow child murder.
ARE THE KIDS ROMANCABLE
It really is strange. Itsuno even tipped his toes in co-op for DMC 5, remember those weird short points where you would briefly co-op with another player? Why not just commit to it?
That wasn't co-op, it would just record other people's combos on that part of the level and play it back. Like a demo in doom or something but it plays automatically when you're in that part fo the level. Online mechanics without co op basically, so literally the same thing as DD but less involved..
And the reason he woudln't commit to co-op is because his game is singleplayer and co-op adds nothing.
>Why not just commit to it?
Because it completely undermines the principle premise of the game you dense idiot.
Even ignoring this moronic argument from our perspective, as a game developer, why would you waste time creating this incredibly unique and intricate system and then throw in some generic tacked on coop that lets players completely ignore and circumvent the mechanics you spent so long working on?
And then if you're the fricking suits funding this game, and you see that a lot of the players aren't even using this feature that the devs spent so much resources and time on, why would you not make the devs just forego that in the future and stick with the cheap generic coop?
>Why not just commit to it?
Because he wanted to make a good game instead, silly.
DMC 5 has actual co-op, but only in a single mission: 13
If you don't remember it, it's the one where you just fight in a big empty arena, jump down a pit, and repeat 3 times. It has zero cutscenes or anything of substance in it and feels completely out of place compared to every other mission in the game. It's all to facilitate the one in a million chance that you'll actually fight along side another human instead of just a bot or recording.
Dont forget mission 7 a total fun shitshow since it just shows how chaotic the game is once you get targeted by off-screen enemies
The game needed more missions like that
No, it's great. It's a single player experience.
Last thing I want is dev time being devoted to multiplayer stuff.
>sword default combo is now 6 moves long
Fricking nice. Also I might be crazy but I think there was a 7th one coming up but it cut away. Could also be a seamless loop to the beginning of the string too, I suppose.
fully single player games are always better, they can make exactly the game they want with no concerns as to how to make it work with multiplayer and no dev time is wasted on implementing multiplayer. The only way I could see it working with dragon's dogma was if you could control your pawn in your friend's game, but you could not interact with anything and anything you looted went to your friend instead of you. It would be more just like a minigame than a way to play the game coop.
the oversocialized won't play a single player game, I've heard it all my life "that game looks cool but there's no multiplayer", they will only play a singleplayer game when it's massive and everyone is playing it because they don't want to be left out of the conversation, that's it.
>the oversocialized won't play a single player game, I've heard it all my life "that game looks cool but there's no multiplayer", they will only play a singleplayer game when it's massive and everyone is playing it because they don't want to be left out of the conversation, that's it.
Those people only play as a means of social interaction and never for the game itself. They give zero shit about the game in question, it could be an absolute joke title but they will play anything as long as it's the name that's on everyone's lips. Literal subhumans.
>Those people only play as a means of social interaction and never for the game itself
Too real. I tried to play Div OS 2 with 3 other pals
>2 mages 1 warrior and me as rogue
>Everyone blazing through every dialogue
>"Where are we going again?"
>Occasional thievery gone wrong almost turned into a murder hobo spree
>Endless b***hing about how I'm just lucky because I'm killing everything
>moron not realizing he just doesn't know how to build a character and just dumped half his level up on Int for his warrior because he "also wanted to throw fireballs"
>Respecs his warrior into a rogue
>Now I have to share rogue loot with this fricking neanderthal
>The one mage thats my actual friend being there does not make up for all of this shit
I will never ever play an RPG with people again for the rest of my life
>B-BUT IT'S COMFY!
I am much comfier enjoying it by myself
>M-MUH SOCIALIZATION
I'd much rather talk to people irl or even in a discord channel than having them inside a game talking to me
>divinity
Same experience man, the other dude was just speedreading trough dialogue and i couldn't keep up with the quest, especially because he was bad at explaining what we were supposed to do.
>yeah we need to find the murderer
>alright do we have any hints (replayed it alone and there were)
>no bro we gotta find it out ourselves
>end up wiki browsing, still highly confused
we restarted 4 or 5 times but we just wouldn't get beyond the first town because of the counfusion we would suffer, i bet if we had some dude who would do irl dungeon mastering filling the role of the quest gatherer we would'have had a smoother experience.
Better stick to deep rock or left 4 dead for coop.
I played Divinity OS 2 about three times through with my friend
He still doesn't really know what the frick happens in the game but likes the action.
You guys have convinced me, and you're 100% right
Being able to frick around with my friend in game is NOT worth all the discussion of the game being taken over by hypersocial mongoloids
I'll have just as much fun chatting to my buddy as we play our own seperate playthroughs anyway
Thank god Itsuno is based beyond belief
Don't get me wrong there are games that are great with friends like Ratclicker and other L4D derivatives, R6 Siege back in 2019, Phasmophobia, SWAT4 / RoN, Death Road to Canada and the like. But you know what those games have in common? They have zero narrative like RPGs do. You don't stop to talk to someone and read what they have to say. As much as people like to say that Dragon's Dogma has no story, every quest that isn't from a notice board comes from talking to someone that is connected to the events currently unfolding and they often give you hints and always context for what you're doing. This is not a game I want some moron spamming the speak button and then following the quest marker to just kill whatever it told me to. I enjoy the context, I like how I'm asked to retrieve a bandit gone rogue, I like how I need to find where my cousin fricked off to and then she asks me to give a sacred item to someone of importance to me, etc.
I am thrilled that they are not diverting a cent or second of development time to co-op.
>some moron
Your friend?
Yes
>But you know what those games have in common? They have zero narrative like RPGs do
They're also purpose built for co-op play, instead of made for singleplayer play with co-op play shoehorned in like DD theoretically would be.
>Oversocialized
>Ganker
Youre moronic. Premade pawns sucked. Ugly AND bad.
>letting everyone know you cant afford to purchase a cheap game
How many times will I have to repeat it until you understand?
>It's not that I don't want to play online multiplayer. I really want to!
>It's just a pain in the ass.
>It's a pain in the ass to have to play with other people. You can't do what you want to do.
So if the game has co-op what's stopping you from playing it single player?
Adding co-op would require more resources being allocate to the coop aspect that can be better spent on polish the single player aspect
Makes sense, would you be opposed to it being dlc or patched in later?
Yes, spend that time making more single player stuff for DLC
If the game wasn't designed with Coop in mind at the start, adding co-op elements later through dlc would be very buggy and again, dlc could be better use to improve the single player
I mean what's the difference functionally between Arisen, main pawn and two summoned pawns rather than Arisen, main pawn and your friend + his pawn?
I have 100%'d Dark Arisen multiple times and it's in my top 3 games of all time but I honestly don't get the huge aversion to any co-op of any type.
Pawns are stupid a lot of time, they make less then optimal play. Your friends are less likely to do so unless they are trolling or just bad.
Why is that a problem?
>what's the difference functionally
Quest progress. I think that's the main thing. I don't think they want to spend resources on trying to figure out how to sync progress between players.
>Why is that a problem?
Because your Pawn being moron is part of the challenge. You have to lead them to victory. Not so much with a friend who will perform every task better than a Pawn. Take the Golem fight for example, a player would target the disk while a Pawn would not most of the time so if you play single, you have to take that into account and use the pawn as bait while you do the dmg.
I get that. Having another player with you would make pawns mostly obsolete. But I don't think that's a big deal if you restricted coop to special coop locations (the endless tower that connects the parallel worlds) instead of the main game.
forgot picture
No one wants to acknowledge the endless tower because it ruins the "singleplayer was what DD was always supposed to be" narrative. I think Itsuno might've just toned down his initial dreams after Capcom pulled the rug on him last game.
>>It's not that I don't want to play online multiplayer. I really want to!
For me it is EXACTLY that I don't want to play online multiplayer. That's all, I just don't want to, and I don't want to see devs wasting time on a feature that means absolutely nothing to me, and I don't give a FRICKING SHIT about what anyone else wants because I play games for me and nobody else matters. Frick you all.
Everyone seems to think that when people say co-op they mean Elden Slop summon co-op, and not
>Hey Tommy, let's play some DD
>Okay
What you're describing is worse than "Elden Slop" and is exactly the kind of shit people don't want.
Okay, Fromdrone
No, not really. I am aware that they mean co-op closer to Diablo or maybe even L4D but I do not want that shit in DD
Just dont use it moron
No one is talking about being force to use it. I don't want development to be wasted on a worthless feature for the game. I will take one (1) extra high five animation over any form of co-op any day.
>lol if you don't like the co-op just don't eng-ACK
kys
Dead Space 3.
>Anyone else disappointed in this?
Not really, no.
Singleplayer focused?
wishlisted.
Reminder that DD threads are actively raided by doomposting cucks.
what's with these "people"?
We should inject a mole in their server so we can quietly observe their antics
the arisen set looks cool. hope I can wear that and slaughter all the invaders from Tamriel
Haven't even played the first one yet, but I feel like I should be laughing at the co-op gays.
I don't care, there will probably be a mod for it anyway.
MY BROTHER
COME JOIN ME
>not using the new mod
Shamefur dispray
Kill all coop Black folk.
I'm gonna ignore the shit posting and ask would I like Dragon's Dogma if I hate Souls shit. Apparently the two are different enough, but I'm not sure if I want to risk the chance
I like Souls and DD but I think the games are different enough that you could like one but not the other. Dragon's Dogma is more of a fast action game and has less focus on the dungeon crawling until the DLC.
They're nothing alike. It's like something in the middle of a triangle of DMC / Monster Hunter / The Elder Scrolls
Never played Elder Scrolls but I do like DMC and Monster Hunter
I say TES because it's open world and more quest and NPC driven than DMC or MH. With that said the game has literal DMC moves in it like Stinger as Burst Strike from the Fighter. It also has some MH because you'll be fighting bigass monsters but unlike TES you won't be just hacking at their knees and you can break off chunks of them like in MH.
Hmm. I'll check it out the next time it's on sale then anon. Here's hoping I like it
It's 84% off right now, anon
It's 100% off if you're not a moron.
Yeah we get it, you're edgy and pirate.
You can get the game for $2
the game is legit great and worth a buy. i've bought it multiple times for different platforms. perfectly playable pirated, but the pawn system is so much more fun with online.
>missing out on player pawns
I mean do what you want, but it's worth just for that feature
So it is. Might grab it on switch or PC then
And bought. Here's hopping I like it
Struggle through the beginning till you get thru to the first and only major city, it gets much better when you get access to the advanced vocations and new skills.. Kick the ox during the escort quest to make it go faster and bring a mage that can heal to heal its HP.
Go south and look for your childhood friend before you go do said escort quest or else you'll miss out on some content.
>clothes under trophy jacket
suck my fricking wiener zoomer
kys zoom zoom
no coop is the best news so far
>No coop
Damn, not catering to terminally online multiplayer homosexuals
I kneel
Buying day one
No, this is the correct choice, frick you shiteaters who never played the first game trying to force multi-player into every game.
I wanted co-op
No you didn't you crapfeasting shitposter.
Yes I did, so I vould play with my friend who got me into DD in the first place like 8 years ago
well its not gonna happen so cry about it
Nah
Get double pink eye, Streptococcus and raging hemorrhoids.
Why don't you suck your friends dick instead if you so want to play with him? DD will never ever have co-op, cope
well since coop is now being shit on reminder
if you hired a pawn you did not beat the game
silence Black person
as someone with 8,000 hours across four different consoles, I don't want co-op, I just want to frick my pawns. I don't want PvP, I just want to frick my pawns. I just want to frick my pawns. That is all.
Is there any mod that make the the first game UI doesn't looks like it was made for Handheld game?
Why everything must be XBAWX HUGE?
Anyone?
I bet you'll have a bitterblack like expansion where 2 arisen's and their pawns will be able to meet in the interdimensional dungeon of suck and frick or something, maybe even while randomy lurking like the dmc5 missions.
That would be a very itsuno thing to do actually.
>h-having less features is a actually a good thing!
>less dev time spent on a simple feature they could have ported from monster hunter that runs on the same engine and more dev time spent on "the Power of AI" (??whatever the frick they mean by that, no one knows)
>haha i wish i had friends ;-;
the cope is astounding.
back to your discord troony, you lost
your dick hole stinks.
>simple feature
>have to take in account a different player wandering the world and doing quests and shit than the main player and without him
>imagine the huge shitfest of doing a quest that trigger something that would conflict with the choice of the main player did another town
If they added multiplayer, it would be like dark souls and you would be nailed to the main player. The game would have to completely be designed with multiplayer in mind otherwise much like divinity sin and even that one has limits too
ah, lazy devs. cashgrab sequel/remake. got it.
you lost
>it would be like dark souls and you would be nailed to the main player
of course, you're in the HOST's party.
The game's already "designed with multiplayer in mind", because the "other players" are your pawns. Account for one party, sticking together like borderlands.
>ported from monster hunter
Do you know a single thing about how code and programming works?
im cool with that. Later OP, im a day one buy.
In case you guys want a Co-op game with Dragons Dogma type of combat, there's Granblue Relink, however it's anime:
>GachaBlack folk' "game"
It's not gonna be a gacha tho. And you can't use full assist in the hardest difficulties online.
>Gacha
>Game
Pick one
Who cares? I don't play ps4 games released after 2020.
It is quite funny but also a bit sad, reading these threads and seeing the anons that were outright traumatized by a bad co-op experience, and think that just because their buddies were shit-eating morons that couldn't handle a RPG story together, nobody can. That being said, kinda to be expected, since you'd have to be a zoomer to name Divinity:OS instead of Neverwinter, and most of those guys have too much ADHD to read even by themselves.
It's a shame, because if those people's friends are hypersocial multiplayer obssessed morons that just frick around and won't play singleplayer games, then that means those anons missed out on one of the best parts of DD1, which was doing simultaneous playthroughs with a buddy, sharing pawns, and swapping stories. Sure, you can do it with the threads, and that's fun too, but man oh man, if you didn't have a proper buddy that also liked DD:DA, you fukken missed out. No wonder such people would be caustic to the idea of co-op.
Hell, that's part of the reason I'm not let down about DD2 lacking co-op, since I get to experience that all over again with the same buddy I played the first one "with," and those guys that didn't the first time around will be missing out yet again.
I think you're in the minority of the minority there man, I played back when DA came out and was more than satisfied with the threads as my main social experience in the game
I don't understand, WHY would you want one of the few non ESG poisoned, social baizou free, insulated SOUL filled games to fail? Why burn down your own interest just to *own* some gays you'll never meet before you die? You spent how much time on discord or reddit trying to subvert this awkward niche of a website and what do you have to show for it? A sweaty t shirt and a dark room? No one will like you more or frick you because you shit on a bunch of nobodies for liking a specific game. They did this shit for Nier Automata as well. Viscerally against it because it became popular and people actually liked it. Imagine actually genuinely liking something that's not an addiction or some distraction to temporarily blind you to your own crippling depression.
dragons dogma is one of the few games that would benefit from coop since you are incentivized to have a knight/mage/rogue party in general. pawns are good but the system is already a shitty version of coop itself, you cant be hype for them jumping over treasure chests off cliffs or into the brine
its obvious they just cant pull coop off in a story driven open world game like all devs. you would need a drop in machmaking system, so joining someone elses game would only help them story progression wise, and matchmaking would have to filter people out who are further along in the story than you. making everyone who joins your game a babysitter guiding you through content they have already done, or a total moron
no, frick matchmaking. Have the person in your friend's list or play solo. Having matchmaking is what invites shitters, and shitters are why people don't want co-op at all.
>pawn gives out interesting and useful information on the environment and enemies
>player spams hi 86x times and fricks off to the furthest mountain on the map
Why are you playing with fricking morons and not a friend who plays games like you?
>Pawn: "The sun is bright" "Its dark at night"
That friend is the moron
>pawn: Its kind targets women over all others!
It means I can pirate it without feeling like I'm missing out so it's not all bad.
think like this
they can waste time making a online mode nobody is asking for
or they can add new giant monster bosses to the game
That’s a big OR
and improve on the things that people who actually cared about the first game and what it was trying to achieve
>online mode
Nah, just online. Don't need no frills, no balance, no interactions, no nothing. Just drop in and run around as another dude.
>they can waste time making an online mode
It's Itsuno's crew at CS1. Not only did most of the same team that made DD:DA went on to make DDO, but many came back to work on DMC5, where they added a full co-op capable system just for kicks. Just to use it as set dressing outside of the 1-2 missions where you can actually fight alongside someone, despite also already having a recording system put in. A game that was also on the RE Engine.
The idea that a very simple co-op system would be a herculean effort for Itusno and his team is honestly an insult to their body of work. It's a weak argument against co-op, just like many of the other arguments against co-op that hinge on disaster scenarios and poor personal experiences. Stick to the only real argument against co-op, which is also legitimately the strongest one and does shut down the requests for it: 仕方がない
>It went from an absolute must buy to wait for a sale.
Owned
Yes Co op would have been based but it was only ever going to be a cherry on top
Your troony doomposting only makes my wiener harder
If it sells really well we might get Dragon's Dogma Online 2 which would be great.
If there's no co-op then there's only one option
We mod it in ourselves
Capcom will take us to the moon
Doubt it. Itsuno's plan for DD was extremely ambitious, even by modern standards
Anon, you do not understand. Everything capcom has done so far was with the objective of finally realizing Dragon's Dogma's full potential. What do you think they mean by "Reach for the Moon Engine"?
Trust the plan.
Based
>No content balanced around people playing with me, all balanced around singleplayer and my 9 foot tall amazon husbando pawn
The only people genuinely upset about no co-op are people who didn't play the original until recently. I wouldn't mind it to have co-op but the game doesn't need it with pawns, especially if they improved the ai/interactions.
Doing OP broken bullshit is a major part of the power fantasy of this game. No mystery that DDON went offline, despite being a good game of its own.
The pawn system is great. Glad to see it sticking around. Can't wait for Ganker to pass around the list of Hentai Artists pawns again.
>game that was never meant to be coop is not coop confirmed
no fricking shit reddit spacer, now frick off.
>ITT
co-op is for homosexuals
unless it's deep rock galactic
Post the Shazam.
GOOD! FRICK ONLINE GAMING!
Thank god, I'm glad it's sticking to it's roots. Cry more.
>Behold, one of the very few games designed to have interesting AI fighting with you!
>WAAAAAAAAAAH WHY NO CO-OP??!?1
The average pawn is smarter and more charming than you.
It's kinda funny seeing people praising a game for having less features.
Pawns are an important part of the lore and were an endearing part of the first game. Having online co-op ruins the whole point.
If the game gets popular and there's a DD3 with co-op, you morons will immediately praise the devs like it was what you all asked for, no matter how lore breaking it is.
You also forgot DDO already came out a long time ago.
It's just people wanting to suck Capcom's wiener.
You know what would also be an important part of the lore? Co-op. Not full co-op, but co-op in the Endless Tower and the Moon. Those are part of the original concept and something that Ganker has been clamoring for ever since the original. Admittedly, moreso going to the moon, but the connection between the parallel worlds is part of Itsuno's vision.
Thankfully, that vision might be realized. In addition to the game seemingly seeking to realize what Dragon's Dogma would've been if its original concepts were fleshed out and not left on the table, there's that original leak about DD2's announcement that has now since-then been vindicated. The one that also mentioned that post-launch co-op in the form of the Endless Tower is on the docket, and don't you forget that big Capcom leak a while back either. You know, the one that had art and development screenshots that everyone argued about whether it was for DD2 or somehow Deep Down? With the two adventuring parties in a generic dungeon? The one that later got struck by automatic copyright detection if you try to upload it? Well, now from the designs we've seen in the trailers, it's all but assured to be a pic of DD2, and likely of the Endless Tower
Here's the pic on catbox, just in case it'd get slapped again
https://files.catbox.moe/72ou5p.jpg
It has more features, though. Thankfully co-op is not one of them
>Black person was being owned so much that he decided to make another thread
Nothing of value was lost, go and play valorant or some other homosexualry
You have a trillion trashy unbalanced co-op games let me trade e-girls and goblins with my fellow Gankertards in peace
Souls games desink in offline mode because its made to be a coop game
the main reason the fricking hitboxes suck in that game is the forced coop mode
So what does that mean for games like Sekiro that aren't co-op and still has ass hitboxes
same engine using the same code
thats why it has the SAME bugs demon souls had on the ps3
Well it's no surprise they'd have bugs then. Sounds less like it's because they tried to go for co-op and more that they are somewhat lazy and did a fricked implementation for co-op. Thankfully, Itsuno's team isn't lazy, as seen by their previous online and singleplayer + co-op games.
No I think it's the much more believable Fromsoftware are shit at coding and always have been
>Co-op
>pvp
?????
How is there no porn of the girl on the left yet?
Replying to the stupid Black person from the other thread, there's literally no mention of Gransys or any implication that the game takes place there in anything they've said in the presentation, there's also literally nothing that mentions gransys or the game taking place in the same region on the website. Again, not the same map, get fricked
dude we clearly see the griffon collosseum in the trailer
>No Co op
Thank God. Frick pvpgays so much.
Where'd you find that screenshot?
it's dd1
I must say co-oping the entire story mode in the DDON mmo with 3 buddies was the funnest shit ever, but I understand the reasoning why they decided to go with singleplayer onry
In the MMO, other players were infinitely more useful in combat than pawns so pawns ended up being forever delegated to crafting equipment, fetching materials, or just gathering dust at level 1 despite them being the biggest schtick of Dragon's Dogma in the first place.
Left or right, Ganker?
if it's not left, you're a gay
Sorry, Todd. I think she's too high on the furry scale for my taste.
I believe in you, Todd. I'll pet the Pretty Kitty.
I'm not expecting it to has coop but, when are they going to localize dragon dogma online, fricking capcom
>zoomer wont play this kino because it doesnt have the trendy feature
A BLESSING SENT FROM THE HEAVENS
>implying
Co-op is an oldschool feature. Nowadays, fewer and fewer games have proper co-op with each passing year, especially online co-op, whereas the titles of yesteryear would let you pile dudes into the campaign just for the fun of it. Zoomers are more the kind to worship at the shrine of an extreme, full divide between multiplayer and singleplayer, only ever playing massive multiplayer-only titles or obsessing over comforting single player games that they demand must be enjoyed in a pristine way.
THEIR KIND TARGETS CO-OP ABOVE ALL ELSE!
>confirmed
>has been literally listed on the main website for weeks
Fricking doomposters man.
They're just fricking shitposters, so fricking moronic.
so? the first one didn't. i just want the pawn function back and expanded on or with more features. limited/pseudo-co-op like the ur-dragon
When you look back and wonder why they don't make Dragon's Dogma 3, you'll know why.
Yeah because they didn't add coop and so the game sold mediocre.
Look. DD1 was excusable for no coop because it was made in 2012.
But it's 2023.
It needs coop. It needs it or it will die.
>Games without co op don't sell well
>DD flopped when it was made with no fricking budget and sold over 7 million copies after it got ported to Steam
lmao you fricking moron
7 million copies .
10 years ago.
When online coop was trash and janky.
Now?
It won't sell anywhere near that.
It will flop.
The new generation of gamers will prove it.
>IT WILL FLOP FOR SURE THIS TIME!
>SINGLE PLAYER GAMES ALWAYS FLOP!
cope, moron
>Anyone else disappointed in this?
No but I might pretend to be like all of the other secondary morons for fun
I would rather have competitive multiplayer honestly.
You and your pawn vs. your opponent and their pawn. Or maybe a battle royale mode where it's you and your pawn vs everyone else and their pawn, and when you kill someone you can recruit their pawn.
is it going to be a prequel or a sequel I wonder
frick off always online zoomers
>this restaurant is great, but I wish there was more than one chair per table so I can enjoy eating with friends
>DEAL WITH IT, THIS RESTAURANT'S NOT FOR YOU YOURE SUPPOSED TO BE ALONE LIKE ME
>FRIENDS? WHATS THAT?
>THINK OF THE FRACTION OF WASTED BUDGET FROM BUYING CHAIRS THAT COULD HAVE GONE INTO INGREDIENTS
>SOLO EATING CHADS WIN AGAIN
>6 months later restaurant goes out of business
get gatekept homosexual
just play something else bozo
you wont be missed
no it's like going into a sushi restaurant demanding they sell burritos and then when they tell you that the restaurant next door sells burritos you kick up a stink because you want their menu changed for you instead.
capcom coop games are monster hunter and exoprimal currently and they dont have to actively compete against themselves for market when they dont need or want to
>capcom coop games are [Arena game nothing like DD] and [drag queen pvpve game]
Yikes.... Not a good comparison, sister.
Yes it does lol
>demanding they sell burritos
Are people writing letters to Itsuno or walking into Capcop HQ or something?
>copying a post from the other thread
At least be original, goddamn.
>food analogy
You ever tried drinking bleach kid? It actually tastes really good and gets you high. Don't knock it until you've tried it.
What a dumb analogy.
>food analogy
Co-Ope
Chuds lost again.
Why all these people who never played Dragon's Dogma are now pretending they care about it?
>great single player game with unique online mechanic is a beloved game for many years
>finally gets a sequel
>some tard spergs the frick out that the single player game is not going to be an online multiplayer game tailor-made so he can sit with his homosexual friends in a discord server and POG over loot and epic moments
just go and stay go
CAPCOM WHAT THE FRICK. I HOPE DD2 DOESN'T HAVE THIS KIND OF SEXIST SHIT ANYMORE
>fight him
>my character literally doesn't take damage to anything outside of BBI
>for giggles, I run up to him and stunlock him for free
>one of his attacks connect with me somehow, despite being stunlocked by a 4-digit stagger stat and me attacking faster than him
>hits me and triggers the loss cutscene
For some reason, the game's coded to have that fight count as a loss if he hits you once, further fricking melee players more than they already are.
Really hoping DD2 ends up with more polish, or at least better modding (or modding at all.)
Good. Day 1 purchase.
I just wanted 2 person bro-op tbh
Fable had it
and Zelda didn't
>Bing bing troony game that is apparently bad according to Ganker didn't
Great, I'm glad you agree DD2 should have co-op
>game that is apparently bad according to Ganker
The frick kind of qualification is that supposed to be, you can apply it to literally everything, it's meaningless.
Good, have a nice day coop gay.
go play diablo if you want couch coop moron.
Anon-Sama, you must choose. Will it be beautiful arrow using maiden with pure human genes. Or the Khaj- I mean cat maiden with human hair...
Pretty Kitty…
Going to go with personalities and voice acting on this.
I can go with either one otherwise.
It's great that it's like the original but I do hope we get a DDON replacement
Hopefully global this time, too
Good. Frick coop
it's a single player game, the size of the game map has nothing to do with multiplayer
>type 1 type 2 genders
>encounter ogre
>the sight of Type 2s excite it!
It's going to be so dumb
t. moronic secondary
Wew lad.
Zoomers hate co-op because it means their favourite streamer will spend more time chatting with his buddy instead of them when they drop a dono.
Why does co-op scare you gays? The pawn system was just co-op with morons, why not have one of those morons be a person and you both can bring your pawn? Co-op would have helped this game more than staying single.
1. It's not what the game is about.
2. The game doesn't need help.
3. There are plenty of fantasy action RPGs with co-op as a focal point.
>There are plenty of fantasy action RPGs with co-op as a focal point.
Name five.
Every souls game.
Diablo games.
Monster Hunter games.
Outward.
Divinity Original Sin 1 and 2.
Those alone make up over two digits worth of games with co-op at their core. I'd better not hear you say they don't count cuz they don't have the same exact gameplay as DD.
Not co-op games.
Dungeon crawler
Not even the same genre
Literally who
Not even the same genre
>Hey man can you add multiplayer to starcraft?
>Shut the frick up, moron, you can play Uno.
Took this long and this is the best you can come up with? Apply yourself.
>He couldn't even name two games in the same genre
The only one of those that isn't an action RPG is Divinity. And I'm not sure how Souls doesn't count as co-op when it's been baked in from the beginning of the series.
The only similarity between Dragon's Dogma and Monster Hunter is that they're both developed by Capcom and feature giant things you can (now) climb on.
Diablo games are dungeon crawler autism clickers and no way similar to DD outside of "You may or may not have a sword as a weapon or cast a spell."
Outward is a shitty indie game.
Souls is shit for co-op considering you have to not only deal with pvp when you do it, but you also have to do the same stages back-to-back and re-connect after every fight in order to keep playing.
They're shit and you're on copium.
None of that bullshit disproves my original post. In fact, over two-thirds of it is your unsolicited opinions. I never said there are plenty of games like DD with co-op, because there aren't. And there also won't ever be because DD2 is rightfully just pawns.
>Bro we don't need multiplayer backgammon go play fricking uno
>stop playing solitaire we need your deck for blackjack, we can't just get our own deck we need yours
>Um, we don't need co-op in Fable 2. Go play Halo.
Neither of those games is explicitly about training an AI to perform the way you want it. That's because it's a feature that's almost entirely unique to DD, which is why replacing it with co-op is a tremendously stupid idea. You don't take something core to a franchise's identity and replace it with MP, we learned that lesson in the fricking 2010s, dumbass.
>replacing it with co-op
Is anyone advocating the removal of pawns?
Yes, actually. The entire day when DD2's trailer was shown and the website went up all the coop homosexuals were saying they should've gotten rid of pawns and made it coop instead.
Yes. You are. You literally are saying "I would rather play with my shithead friends than pawns, and I don't give a shit about engaging with the game's core mechanic, I would rather it play like thousands of other games", that's your entire stance you moron.
see
You'll try to defend your asinine stance with "but there could be both!!!" but if there were both it would just water down and dilute the pawn system, because naturally the devs will be aware that a large percentage of players aren't even going to engage with it, so even if you ignore resource allocation, they're naturally going to be less motivated to work on something that a lot of players won't even touch.
>naturally the devs will be aware that a large percentage of players aren't even going to engage with it
If co-op being available would mean that most players would no longer be interested in the pawn system, doesn't that mean the pawn system needs to be better?
Forcing players to use it for lack of anything else is just masking the problem.
>If co-op being available would mean that most players would no longer be interested in the pawn system, doesn't that mean the pawn system needs to be better?
No, moron.
>but if we serve cake, no one will want to eat our shit sandwiches
Maybe if you didn't put shit in your sandwiches, people would have a sandwich and cake.
There are people who will only play a game if it has co-op. Those people don't matter in this discussion, because they wouldn't use the Pawns regardless since they wouldn't ever touch the game alone. The Pawn system allows for an asynchronous kind of multiplayer since your character's experiences are shared with other players vicariously through your Pawn, and the experiences your Pawn has with them are then shared with you.
We don't want to play Blackjack, though. We want to play Double Solitaire.
You can still play Solitaire with the same deck if you want to.
Outward is kinda fun tho
ITT: nobody played dragons dogma online
>world is 4 times larger than DD1
>but will be just as empty
That's my real worry about this game. Having a huge map with nothing in it but occasional landmarks, plus groups of enemies always in the same designated spot will always be lame as frick.
Yea this was definitely moronic. I remember playing through the first game and just thinking 'wow these pawns are moronic I wish I could just switch them out for a friend Instead'
I can even remember two skills In DD, one being for the warrior and one for the fighter that was almost completely useless, as the pawns were far too moronic to effectively use the skills. (It was a cool launching in the air skill)
I could understand people wanting a crafted single player only experience but pawns existing kinda throw that argument out the window as all pawns are and always will be are just bootleg multiplayer, literally just multiplayer for the friendless. I think most of you guys also forget how mind numbingly moronic pawns used to be.
Pawns are and always will be Inferior to actual multiplayer, and so I'm quite disappointed that there is no MP.
essential mods for dragons dogma? cheaters need not apply
The mod that gives you all portcrystals at the start of the game
Faster casting for wizard
Extra 3 ability slots for warrior
JP voicepack
>cheaters need not apply
Nobody cares
>buy single player game
>wtf this isnt multiplayer?
incomprehensibly moronic???
Granblue fantasy relink is pretty much the same gameplay as dragons dogma 2 and yet I never saw anyone b***h about no multiplayer there
That one has multiplayer, they even said years ago that it would have couch co-op.
so what are all these
>"it goes against fundamental principles!!!!"
gays gonna say when Dragon's Dogma 3 gets positioned as a direct competitor to Elden Ring 2 and adds co-op
You mean like they did in 2015
the shazamBlack folk will screech loudly as they create a phantom of such 'direct' 'competition' while saying,
>HAHAHAH SINGLEPLAY gayS BTFO MULTIPLAYER CHADS WIN I CAN'T WAIT TO PLAY THE WHOLE GAME WITH NOPAWNS HAHAHA FROMKEKS FROMKEKS
and
>NOOOOOOOO ITSUNO IS A HACK HE'S RUINED DRAGON'S DOGMA NOOONOOOOOOOOOOO WE CAN'T HAVE CO-OP IN DD NO DDO DOESN'T COUNT NOOOOOOOOOOOO IT'S GONNA FLOOOOOOOOOP
and then something about how everyone else on Ganker are troons when they're ACTUAL DISCORD TRANNIES, before then committing suicide as everyone goes 'huh, neat I guess,' with varyingly muted anticipation or worry depending on their feelings on DD co-op, and engaging or not engaging in it as they please because it'll probably be completely voluntary to even do to begin with.
>when they're ACTUAL DISCORD TRANNIES
and the pics that were used to prove this and shut them up are all banned/filtered now
kind of a bold strategy, moving the goalposts to such a nebulous future event, considering you'll have likely 41%'d yourself by then
but hey, if you're not around to witness it, it's like Schrodinger's cat, right?
I thought the meme of every single game needing multiplayer no matter what died back in like 2012.
No I don't care. Give me a good single player experience. It's nice that the multiplayer aspect is more passive and in the background.
I hope the larger size means we'll definitely see more variety in locations and dungeons
no who gives a frick
>open world is 4 times larger
Frick this, I'm out.
They can always add it in an expansion r-right? Imagine BBI but self contained and co op
I'd rather just imagine BBI
>Imagine BBI
I'd rather not.
>adds coop
>also adds battlepass and lootboxes
no thanks
Your only hope is DLC or Capcom releasing DDO in the west. I garantee DDO(2) would die off within a month or two after inital interest wanes but that doesn't matter to coopgays.
i would only approve of co-op in an endless tower setting as that is the connection between worlds. If they could get something for semi procedural floors like BBI of the tower to fight thru it would be great.
>It's so weird releasing such a big open world game with AI companions instead of players.
Welcome to Dragon's Dogma, newcomer.
I'd be fine with the option for co-op, but I don't care given how good my single player experience in DD1 was.
Now, I AM worried about the mention of AI "enabling" their larger world. I'm not putting up any alarm bells yet. I'm definitely a bit cautious now though. I am also pretty disappointed that there was so little new info. A nice slice of 5 minutes of gameplay, maybe showing a new vocation or improvements to an old one are what I really wanted to see Warrior my beloved. But essentially getting what we got at the XBox showcase left me nonplussed.
When do you anons think they might next show something new for the game. Tokyo Game Show? Or is there an event sooner that I don't know about?
AI has been a term used in video games long before pajeets were pasting random pictures from the internet together into souless porn if thats what you're thinking of
You're right, I was getting confused because they mention AI while talking about the world and after saying it's 4X the size, but the exact quote is:
>"The characters and monsters that populate the world are given life thanks to the power of AI"
So it's definitely in the classic behavior sense of the term and not the machine learning sense, so that fear is actually not warranted.
Definitely a weird way of wording it, but my hype is back to full throttle. Thanks for making me check myself anon!
It was probably worded that way to get in on the craze. "The power of AI" sounds amazing to people who don't realize the original did the same thing.
>classic behavior sense of the term
So the AI is going tonbe trash?
>actually Monster Hunter World won't sell
>actually DMCV won't come out
>actually DMCV won't sell
>actually Dragon's Dogma 2 will never be made
>actually Street Fighter 6 will bomb
You are here
>actually Dragon's Dogma 2 will bomb because no co-op
You literally cannot defeat Itsuno and Ryuzo at this point. You've been losing since January 2018.
I will now pirate this game and use the co-op mod when it comes out.
You won't because it'll use Capcom ID.
>your game will fail if you dont add mult-ACK
>THERE ARE ONLY TWO REASONS TO VISIT Ganker
>the first is to see leaks
>the second is to see all the critizism an upcoming game can get
>
>and if all of Ganker's shitposts, lies, memes, and criticisms don't deter you from a nugame, than that game is going to be good for you
and THIS is the best they can muster for DD2 kek, kekw even
SEETHE COOP Black folk
oh noo, that suucks
>It went from an absolute must buy to wait for a sale.
have a nice day homosexual. If you are playing a game purely for its social aspect and not for its gameplay and story, then please leave this game alone and go play your fortnite, war zone and other zoomer shite.
There's probably gonna be coop DLC after release similar to Dark Arisen's map but with harder enemies that you can team up with other players to tackle.
Why must every games have to have Coop/multiplayer? Also the charm of DD was that the Pawns were kinda dense, having another players to up the spot of the pawns would take away that charm. Like the point was to try to manipulate the AI into doing what you want, replacing the AI with human is just pointless and make the game less unique.
The game involves romancing fine honeys and I am NOT FRICKING SHARING
It's like this.
Fans of Dragons Dogma understand and wanted the game to be single player, as that was the heart of DD's experience.
DDO, Fromsoft and MH players, just want something to fill the void until the next MH game, or Elden Ring DLC is out.
Nah, I'm glad. The pawn system is cool and making it co-op would have diluted it, this is how it should be. I like playing co-op games with friends but there are other games like that for me to play, DD2 doesn't need to be one of 'em.
I like how the discord trannies are ignoring any mention of DDO when that is the perfect game they've been asking for in their shitposts
I liked Dragon's Dogma but I do wish that I could have stayed in my fishing village while a foriegn arisen came and saved my world for me
Why would I want to fricking play co-op mode? Why would I want them wasting development time on it?
I feel like you guys heavily overrate co-op, even romanticise it. "It's fun to play with friends and build friendship"
Have you ever fricking played Baldur's Gate or Divinity co-op? It's fun for one sitting, then impossible to get everyone on the same page again, so you end up restarting again by yourself.
"But it could be drop-in co-op". What, like Fable 3? So it would basically ruin the experience because one player is the main guy, and you go back to your save strong as frick but at the start of the game?
The only good co-op game is Splinter Cell: Chaos Theory.
I would've liked coop but I don't mind not having it that much. DD1 was great even without coop. And hearing friends talk about the funny thing your pawn did is always cool
>this image terrifies the discord raiders as their narrative crumbles
Why did they not play DDO? I dont get it its the game they wanted?
Because the game only released in japan? And is now dead?
The game is released globaly now, and remind us why its dead?
Because the previous title had no co-op, of course it was a flop
Ah so you do want dragons dogma 2 to flop as well
Glad we figured that out
The game was never released globally. It died because not many people played it because it was only released in japan.
DDO wasn't coop all the time. There were only coop raids. Everything else was still local man and his pawns.
DDO literally made up a story about how a dragon was just turning everyone into Arisen to justify having the MMO part.
The raids also turned off a bunch of stuff that you could do in the instanced single player sections on top of the standard classes having a bunch of their moves gutted so they could fit everything into the MMO multiplayer environment.
holy shit you shazamnigs are actually just straight-up lying now, like not in a way that could be covered up as not hearing the deconfirmation of a doompost but verifiable anti-truths
at ANY TIME, in ANY part of the overworld, you could substitute 1 pawn for 1 person; so, two players and their pawns was common; three people and one pawn was awkward but possible, think it was host priority as to the pawn filler; and yes, four people with NO pawns
most legs of ordinary 4-man-party Main Quests could be committed to in a group with other people, with absolutely no restriction; Personal Quests were solo and to the side of these
the only meaningfully true thing posted is how for example Strider/Ranger was broken up into separate bow & dagger classes, or Magic Knight turned into a tank-buffer mage analogue
I invoke a curse of miserable and absolute death on you and your house, shazamnig creature, may you pay in blood and misery for being such a dumbly malicious lying c**t
The only parts of DDON that weren't playable with other people were a very few select story missions. The open world zones/caves/catacombs etc were all playable with either pawns or players.
I even have a garbage clip handy of me along with 1 pawn and 2 players in some random shit catacombs area that you just enter from the open world areas.
oh and this one is actually just from the overworld itself
GO KYS NOW!
>what is the reason for this?
So you can summon other players' fricking Pawns for utilitarian and style purposes so you can proceed at your pace, and not just jerking off with your friends or randomly teaming up with flaky gays who either lag behind or rush ahead of you.
>randomly teaming up with flaky gays
Why would you do that in the first place? If you don't want to play with other people, just don't. How is this such a difficult concept? Coop should be an OPTION. Nobody wants forced coop.
The game would still need to be designed with that OPTION in mind even if I choose not to use it. Explain how to incorporate it without being at all detrimental to the intended game.
More development time. Extra dev team that focuses on coop. More resources. DLC.
Take your pick. The question isn't should it be added or would it work , it's whether capcom is willing to do it.
It should be added and it would absolutely work, if they wanted to do it.
So it can work if the game is pushed back or if it's made separately and tacked on later rather than baked into the design of the game itself
Both utter shite
They're all valid options and would not take away from the main game. You having to like the options wasn't part of the question.
why the frick did capcom add fully functional coop to DMC5 just for fun but ignore a game that actually has party mechanics
online will definitely be rebooted and remade into a monhun ish coop game. back then the japs could afford to have exclusive mmos with homogeneous social interaction, but the rising costs of production and shit of that sort doesnt make it feasible anymore. they have to let us in
Seething soulsbabies thinking everything needs to be co-op so they can laser everything to death with their butt buddies like they do in elden meme
Soulsgays aren't people
I'm going to lose my shit if he doesn't atleast add the fricking moontower, no you fricking homosexuals MULTIPLAYER WAS ALWAYS INTENDED. WE'RE SUPPOSED TO GO TO THE MOON TOGETHER.
The only people who don't want coop are those who don't have good friends they want to have fun with.
Why should I play a game in coop when I can enjoy it in a quiet environment by myself?
Dragons Dogma 1 never had coop. Why should 2 have it?
I'm glad that they're sticking with what Dragon's Dogma is.
LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!
The wind is making me cold. Hey bro, can you shut the window?
Is this some new kind of shitposting?
Fricking no one was asking for coop when DD2 was announced and suddenly nonstop spam of this shit. Anotber discord raid that wants to pile on a Ganker favorite game?
How new are you? People have been asking for coop ever since dd1 released.
This. They were wrong back then and they're still wrong now.
Who's Coop?
CHICKS
DIG
GIANT
PAWNS
Why do discord trannies fear Dragon’s Dogma posters.
Is it because they envy our hope and trust in Itsuno? Is it because they hate that we love our unfinished SOVLFUL game so much? Is it because they hate our fun-filled pawn-hiring threads? I’ve seen this behavior before in the DmC threads of old.
Discord trannies fear Capcom in general. They failed to make Monster Hunter World bomb, they failed in making DMCV bomb, they failed to make Rise outsell World, they failed in making DD2 not exist. It's just the perpetual death spiral of failing to defeat Itsuno and Ryuzo.
>they failed to make Rise outsell World
This doesn't look like the other things you posted.
Why would they want a game from Capcom sell better than their previous game?
They're weebs and Capcom doesn't pander to them
Now thanks to Rise failure they're going to double down on not pandering to weebs
I am utterly indifferent towards coop. If they put it in and one fo my friends happened to want to play then cool, if they didn't and focused resources on the core game instead also cool.
>DRAGONS DOGMA 2 NO COOP CONFIRMED
Good.
>board full of incels is happy there is no coop
Wowee surprise
>one game announced that is single player
>shart your panties and have a meltdown because everything needs to be coop or else you can't play it
lmfao
I wouldn't mind a coop dungeon crawler mode
Watch Ganker seethe when a seamless coop mod shows up just like elden ring lmao
>Seamless reference
lmao shit tier bait, everyone knows seamless makes soulsgays assmad at having functioning coop with no strings attached (invasions)
I mean, even without that, it seems like it makes the whole game truly an optimal Co-Op experience without having to constant summon/resummon and be fully co-op parts that weren't before
It's not going to be so easy. Elden Ring has a foundation of coop, whereas DD2 won't even have netcode to support multiplayer at all.
It's not impossible (see Just Cause 2 multiplayer) but I wouldn't hold my breath.
>Nearly the perfect D&D game except no multiplayer
>Stuck with mindless A.I. that hardly finishes their spellcasting and constantly needs to be babysitted
>Degenerates continue to spam the threads with e-girl pawn posting
>multiplayers homosexuals are the same gays who hate e-girls pawns
kek
>multiplayers homosexuals aren't complete coomers
ftfy
>coomers
it's funny when the most degenerate and vile people in the world, aka homosexuals, use this in a derogatory way because people like to see cute things
>it's funny when the most degenerate and vile people in the world, aka homosexuals, use this in a derogatory way because people like to see cute things
>implying
Just admit you're as bad as the ff14 gays who like to circlejerk on threads over the way their avatar looks. Nothing wrong with it, coomers in denial are cringe.
I didn't say I don't like to show my pawn
i just called you a homosexual who have shit taste in game and girls type
>I didn't say I don't like to show my pawn
I said you do, are you dyslexic?
>i just called you a homosexual who have shit taste in game and girls type
No wait, you're ESL.
>i didn't say it
homosexual
I accept your concession, coomer.
Real question Ganker
What will be the preferred console to play this game?
I can't bring my PC where I'm going
Steam Deck or whatever mobile PC equivalent. Playing DD on the go with the switch was pretty damn comfy, and with the PC you'll get mod support too.
PS4 for that perfect unstable 30fps.
>Anyone else disappointed in this?
no. Dragon's Dogma wasn't co-op, why should this be? absolute must buy for me. coop gay kys.
i am willing to buy a 300 dollar deluxe edition if they implement a version of the Alchemist Vocation from DDON in this game.
Alchemist and High Scepter were the most fun Dragon's Dogma classes from either game and if you disagree you are wrong.
Only morons want coop.
Go play with dogshit with your moronic friends.
Sounds like projection to me. Who hurt you so bad that you think that everyone else and their friends are as moronic and fine with dogshit as yours?
Nah, it's perfect.
its more fun to see use your friend’s pawn and experience the game at your own pace.
coop is great for mindless multiplayer like shooters or mobas but rarely ever is worth it in story or roleplaying games
mmos just devolve into erpg gays taking over the social chats or guilds being circlejerks with inflated egos that collapse the moment a woman enters
>rarely ever is worth it in story or roleplaying games
You might be right, DnD is the closest thing I can think of to a multiplayer roleplaying game and that is still pretty underground. Thankfully when Itsuno took inspiration off Sword World and DnD he decided to get rid of the close friend group multiplayer aspect. It was probably the reason why they couldn't hit mainstream popularity.
Wait whats this about?
It's about the fact that the sequel to a singleplayer game is a singleplayer game and people are disappointed by this for some reason.
new falseflag angle by internet addled ghouls
>literal 3 minute video
>we will show more in the future!
There was five seconds of unseen gameplay in the whole fricking thing.
he's a hack
this isnt eso
Todd's just letting them borrow bits of the Khajit template. You can see that they don't have any tails so they don't get in trouble with the teacher.
>4 times bigger
That's all I wanted to hear.
I feel like I remember reading something about how the AI for the pawns was designed to mimic coop as closely as possible, including the little idiosyncrasies and misinterpretations of exact instructions. This is what makes the pawns so distinct. They don't end up feeling like coop partners that can perfectly listen to instructions but they also don't end up feeling like normal NPCs. So if I had to guess, there's no coop because they want people to engage with the pawn system.
I get that people don't want co-op and are afraid of the implications of it, but i when i played the first DD, i remember wishing it had co-op so i could just have a play through with my brothers.
Good for you, the game you want already released and is playable right now
I never knew this existed. I'll check it out.
Although for me, there is a big difference between an MMO and a closed off co-op experience, much of the narrative and design is watered down due to the sheer number of players
Good for you that game isn't an MMO which is perfect for what you want
Did they finally add all the areas? I know they recently added actual progression.
Pawn system is a masterwork all, you cant go wrong
https://strawpoll.com/polls/w4nWrGR4dyA
>should
I don't really care either way, but would a tacked on coop mode seriously be the worst thing in the world? I didn't see anyone get upset at the Elden Ring coop that barely functioned outside of dungeon diving, I don't see why people would be so against even having it in a BBI dive or Ur-Dragon fight, or whatever
>No one upset at ER coop
You literally playing dark souls plus open world at this point. People know it is shitty as previous games. Now in Dogma, you need to build your pawns and make them "learn" and by putting coop, it can neglect that pawn system badly. Tacked on or full coop system.
>I didn't see anyone get upset at the Elden Ring coop that barely functioned outside of dungeon diving
Then I have to wonder how present you were in discussions about it. It was so bad someone made an extremely mod to use an entirely different client and do seamless co-op where you could play the entire game in one session with a group instead of going through official servers.
This split the playerbase like the DS2/SotF2 controversy did where vanilla invasion/co-op pools on PC were reduced by all the players using the mod.
It was amazing, too. In retrospect I wish all the Fromsoft games played that way.
>muh Dragon's Dogma Online
Itsuno had nothing to do with that game.
He also had nothing to do with the Dark Arisen DLC yet thats what everyone talks about in these threads
>He also had nothing to do with the Dark Arisen DLC
Wait what? What was he doing after 2012 then? There's no way DMC5 took 7 years to make
>Wait what?
Its true. The director of Dark Arisen was Kento Kinoshita who later went on to direct Dragon's Dogma Online.
>What was he doing after 2012 then?
Iirc he considered quitting back then but Capcom convinced him to stay by giving him full reigns over Devil May Cry. From what i gather, Inafune really fricked his morale up by giving DMC to Ninja Theory after DMC4 flopped
dmc 4 did not flop, it was mediocre sure but not a flop. Though I agree imagine fricked over Capcom big time
>imagine
*inafune
Fricking autocorrect
Aw, seriously? It's like Itsuno finds this funny on some level. He makes an amazing co-op system in DMC5 complete with friend-prioritization matchmaking then restricts it to 1 mission and change, then locks Bloody Palace co-op to the Switch version of DMC3.
I had to get a trainer to experience the immense vibes of playing with a friend. Peak action vidya, to chill with my brother and run through Bloody Palace together.
To emulate co-op with DD1, concept test with DDO, and then go back on all that progress is really disappointing to me.
There's nothing like this that I can have a long-form real-time fantasy RPG adventure with solid combat mechanics like DMC or DD. Dark Souls came closest, but it has so many arbitrary restrictions on when and how you can play together.
I'm sure it'll be great nonetheless, as DMC5 was. Bitterblack Isle was one of the best adventure experiences of the last decade of video games for me.
Must buy to probably just watch a friend play it here and there.
The most important change they need to make is remove the BotW menu healing. If they don't the game will be as shit as the first, with no challenge and tension. Simple as.
Even FF16's healing system could work, you have 3 quick consumable slots that barely have a use animation but the game still allows you to use items from the menu, however it limits how many of each item you can have at a time (e.g. weak healing potions have a carry limit of 4, medium have a carry limit of 3, etc) and if you pick up any more (which are abundantly placed) they immediately get consumed to heal you if you're missing any health.
Having an animation based healing system like Bloodborne would be ideal but I wouldn't mind the menu-but-limited like in the FFXVI demo either.
that wouldn't really work in a game like dragon dogma, the open world nature needs you to be able to pick up a bunch of random food items that you can cook together for immersion and worldbuilding. It can't really be as arcade-y as FF16 is.
For its balancing it should rely on verissimilitude, aka animations and carry weight.
And for the love of god no portcrystals.
>Food can only be used to heal while out of combat, healing potions can be used both in and out of combat
fixed, easy.
>No portcrystals
Do you mean you want a better form of fast travel or no fast travel.
>Do you mean you want a better form of fast travel or no fast travel
I want fast travel options that don't destroy the tension of exploring the wild.
If the game has multiple city hubs (unlikely) I would be fine with fast travel options that go from city to city, but I don't want to just be able to go into a menu and teleport back to town instantly when the going gets tough. This kind of shit works for diablo but it never worked for DD1 imo, considering the monster ambushes were critical to the game's tension.
they added hotkeys in the PC remastered version that do not require the menu so they are aware.
>Join another Arisen's world.
>You're not the Arisen so you can't save any progress that transfers to your game.
>Your coop partner flat out refuses to replay that portion of the game with you again.
you coop anons may even get your wish as DLC but you're probably gonna get monkey paw'd hard.
just started the first one
when does it get good?
and should i make my mc look like me, or a hot b***h?
when your vocation level hits rank 5 or so and you reach the main city (which is very early on) i would say is when the game actually turns on. Warrior gets half the skill slots of the other classes if you don't mod the game and Mage is a buff class that exists only for pawns (or for unlocking a couple of passives to equip to Sorcerer), so avoid Mage and Warrior (unless you mod it to match the skill slots of every other vocation, then it's very fun).
Co-op would definitely add the dnd experience.
So much moronation could occur.
Yeah, but anons would rather do a whole lot of reaching to justify why co-op is a bad idea.
From some technical stand points I can see some reasons why.
But if done right, those issues wouldn't pop up.
>From some technical stand points I can see some reasons why.
I can't. Feel free to enlighten me.
Shit like rendering the world with multiple players (DD2 seems to be pretty fricking big).
Progression story wise. Like joining a friend of yours and making it halfway through the story in their world. But possibly your world's story progress not changing at all. (Although that can just ignored or some work around found)
Just a couple of issues I can see.
Maybe 10 years ago I could see where you're coming from. Not today tho, multiplayer integration has come a long way.
Co-op has always been for homosexuals. Cope and seethe.
>Honestly, what is the reason for this?
wrong question. you should be asking what's the reason for a single player rpg to have co-op?
Other people are morons and I'd prefer my dumb pawns to tag along. Sad the Capcom showcase had barely any info. 4x the world size sounds good on paper, but will there be more dungeons? Greater interactivity than overworld wood bridges get destroyed? Some weird shit maybe?
Is that pic real?
Why does the dude in the middle have the Ringed City Knight circle on his chest?
Because it's dragon's dogma and he's missing his fricking heart?
heart
He's the Arisen and he's missing that Tite Kubo special.
i assume it actually represents the eternal cycle
circles can really represent anything, especially in dragon dogma
>level 1 : it's the hole his heart left
>level 2 : the circular shape represents the eternal return of the cycle
>level 3 : the disk shape and emptiness represent the tunnel going through each world of the ring
>level MAX : this is where dragon dick goes
That's his heart surrounded by flames
Amazing. The ultimate filter for zooms and troons who lack the mental and spiritual capacity to enjoy a single player experience that takes them on a journey of the SOVL.
Trust the process
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