Nope.
If it was released in the 7th gen, it would have placed 2nd to NieR, tied with Lost Odyssey.
However it was technically released in the 8th gen after the PS4 arrived for a 7th gen console so it battles for the #1 spot with another very special title. It's not Automata, Automata ranks 9th
god man that soundtrack is nuts. that track is tame compared to some of it. nothing else like it out there. it's more avant garde than the actual avant garde shit I've been subjected to on university campuses over the last 10 years
>Incorrect.
Yeah, the typo at the end is clear. I'd still frick Manah raw tho, so probably not gay? Is that gay? You tell me gaybo, we need help from your gaydar.
>Isn't it basically Nier prequel?
It is. NieR not only serves as a spiritual successor to Drakengard 1 by inheriting game mechanics but references its characters and themes beyond taking the ending that spawns it. While DoD2 is an unrelated sequel, by the time we roll around to Drag-on Dragoon 3, we're elbow deep. They're the same series at this point, reincarnation too.
The schizos that seethe about NieR are the same set of weirdos who'd seethe over the XIV raid; which serves more as a Drakengard raid thematically and even includes seeds of destruction.
It is. That doesn't magically make its fanbase big. All Drakengard game and even the first Nier didn't sell well and weren't played by that many. The only game that really performed well in that whole series was Automata.
Go look up the sales numbers, moron. And just because it didn't sell well doesn't mean it wasn't profitable to some extent, it's not like a lot of money went into making them. Although the original Nier even ended up in red according to its producer. They also kept releasing them because the games got a cult following but there's a good reason they remained incredibly low budget games. Automata was an outlier with its millions of sales.
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Anonymous
>Automata was an outlier with its millions of sales.
Automata is why I get to have this cute Emil plush on my desk but damn if I don't hate what it did to the general vibe of the fandom. I wish some of that popularity would eventually trickle down to Drakengard so I could have nice merch of best girls.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>muh waifu
Bro you're part of the problem
5 months ago
Anonymous
They are not my waifus I just think they are funny/awful and would like to have a figma or some shit.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Frick figma culture
5 months ago
Anonymous
With the exception of that Emil plush none of the shit I care about ever gets good merch I have no merch and I must consoom reeeeeeeeeeeeee
5 months ago
Anonymous
>Although the original Nier even ended up in red according to its producer.
NieR did make a profit but it was too late at that point to save Cavia. It didn't sell great worldwide but it did sell in Japan and yeah it got a cult following after it turned out that a host of reviewers were hacks.
If anyone remembers what the gaming press was like back then, it was before the big incident and we were still reading blogs and listicles on gamesradar and kotaku and well, a whole number of them focused on why we in the west were getting ugly dad NieR and panning the graphics which didn't sell the game at all. Then there were reviewers who only got the first ending and the other who refused to review it at all for the magazine it was a shit show. Unless you knew Taro, Cavia or Drakengard you weren't being sold on a narrative ARPG with multiple endings and replayability but on ugly graphics and ugh grinding! This isn't like Demon's Souls at all! ugh!
By the time NieR was finally out they didn't have any other contracts for licensed games going. Cavia was kept afloat on licensing deals and Bullet Witch wasn't a runaway success. People used to joke about whether cavia or level 5 would go under first and level 5 struck it out with Layton & Inazuma 11.
They did have one other original project in the works and you won't find much about it nowadays but we were slated to get a fourth Mistwalker game by Sakaguchi & Uematsu but with no licensing deals left the studio shuttered.
Saito was never employed by Cavia, he was always a producer at Square so Taro maintained his relationship and we eventually got DoD3 & N:A. If NieR had been unprofitable, we'd never have gotten these titles, never mind Automata having a AA budget. They're low budget titles but that's exactly the lane Taro and Saito have always been in: the A & AA space.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>If NieR had been unprofitable, we'd never have gotten these titles,
It's their own words. Saito insisted to keep the series going. I think the interest from Platinumgames helped, as they were apparently interested in continuing Nier. Either way none of these games were some kind of big success, hence they kept being given very small budgets to work with.
>And just because it didn't sell well doesn't mean it wasn't profitable to some extent
When your first sentence contradicts itself it's because you're full of shit. By definition any game that makes a profit sold well. It doesn't need to sell a gorillion copies, that stupid mentality is what gets you shit games made for the lowest common denominator.
Thanks to NieR and Drakengard Taro and Co. can make a living. These games are niche works and they're good being that way. For the rest read [...].
I don't contradict anything. The only thing that could have made them any money was Drakengard, and basically only in Japan's sales. And Nier didn't do shit. Read more dev interviews.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>And just because it didn't sell well doesn't mean it wasn't profitable to some extent
When your first sentence contradicts itself it's because you're full of shit. By definition any game that makes a profit sold well. It doesn't need to sell a gorillion copies, that stupid mentality is what gets you shit games made for the lowest common denominator.
Thanks to NieR and Drakengard Taro and Co. can make a living. These games are niche works and they're good being that way. For the rest read
>Although the original Nier even ended up in red according to its producer.
NieR did make a profit but it was too late at that point to save Cavia. It didn't sell great worldwide but it did sell in Japan and yeah it got a cult following after it turned out that a host of reviewers were hacks.
If anyone remembers what the gaming press was like back then, it was before the big incident and we were still reading blogs and listicles on gamesradar and kotaku and well, a whole number of them focused on why we in the west were getting ugly dad NieR and panning the graphics which didn't sell the game at all. Then there were reviewers who only got the first ending and the other who refused to review it at all for the magazine it was a shit show. Unless you knew Taro, Cavia or Drakengard you weren't being sold on a narrative ARPG with multiple endings and replayability but on ugly graphics and ugh grinding! This isn't like Demon's Souls at all! ugh!
By the time NieR was finally out they didn't have any other contracts for licensed games going. Cavia was kept afloat on licensing deals and Bullet Witch wasn't a runaway success. People used to joke about whether cavia or level 5 would go under first and level 5 struck it out with Layton & Inazuma 11.
They did have one other original project in the works and you won't find much about it nowadays but we were slated to get a fourth Mistwalker game by Sakaguchi & Uematsu but with no licensing deals left the studio shuttered.
Saito was never employed by Cavia, he was always a producer at Square so Taro maintained his relationship and we eventually got DoD3 & N:A. If NieR had been unprofitable, we'd never have gotten these titles, never mind Automata having a AA budget. They're low budget titles but that's exactly the lane Taro and Saito have always been in: the A & AA space.
Asura's Wrath has the entire ending, which is a series of new boss battles, as a DLC. There's also two chapter DLC, but they're very optional and are 100% QTEs in a different art style instead of 3D.
>>won't go into detail on how the game is "not an RPG"
More like the opposite given
It's an ARPG.
Drakengard is an ARPG.
NieR is an ARPG.
Drakengard 3 is an ARPG.
NieR: Automata is an ARPG.
NieR: Reincarnation is a gacha VN
Drakengard 3 is an ARPG and technically a sequel, but it is not canon.
[...] >hasn't read the sticky >continues shitting his diaper over every single game he doesn't like
newbie please go
>all types of role-playing video games, including single-player, multi-player, and massively multi-player, turn-based and real-time action, western-style and JRPG.
Guess that means I can make, Zelda, MH and DMC threads then.
You can watch any of the interviews with Taro and Saito where they refer to the games as ARPGs and list their influences like KH. It's an ARPG, SE class it as an ARPG, the producer classes it as an ARPG, the director classes it as an ARPG and the fans do too.
I finished it for the first time a few months ago. Just the first ending, I had no interest in continuing after that.
I won't sugarcoat it, I thought it was dogshit.
The moment that epitomized the game for me was that terrible desert level where you constantly lose health when you're not in the shade. The level is full of wolf enemies that burrow underground, except they were only programmed to be able to do that on flat terrain so in the desert level they instead just do a wolfy T-pose and float around intangibly in the air.
The whole game is like that. It's shoddily made to the point where it feels like the people making it just didn't care.
So many of the fights are just obnoxious to play. Bosses, random enemies, side quests. They just feel like a chore. The ghost enemies that don't take any knockback at all are the absolute worst; if I made a list of top ten most frustrating RPG enemies they'd make it.
And the battles that aren't obnoxious are just mediocre. Drag-On Dragoon 3 ASPIRES to mediocrity. I think it's the worst game I finished in 2023.
The only things I particularly liked about it where the character designs and the writing. The first half of the game has some particularly memorable moments and they were what pushed me to finish it.
I can't be mad at people who just skip Drag-On Dragoon entirely and just start with Nier. I don't think getting a broader perspective on the series is worth putting yourself through this game. I've played some stinky Square Enix games before but this one is up there.
it gets repetitive but the story is pretty entertaining, got that good ol yoko taro smell all over it >my first visit to this board and see this >frick yeah
I like the discordant music in the first game
No you don't.
It actually made be dizzy at first, but it's an acquired taste.
Nope.
If it was released in the 7th gen, it would have placed 2nd to NieR, tied with Lost Odyssey.
However it was technically released in the 8th gen after the PS4 arrived for a 7th gen console so it battles for the #1 spot with another very special title. It's not Automata, Automata ranks 9th
*rings a bell in your general direction*
Severely underrated.
god man that soundtrack is nuts. that track is tame compared to some of it. nothing else like it out there. it's more avant garde than the actual avant garde shit I've been subjected to on university campuses over the last 10 years
they need to hurry up and release this series on pc
you ever heard of emulators
yeah but my pc doesn't run a ps3 emu very nicely so
Your pc won't be able to run the port either and no one wants your hot takes on the game when you run it at low settings at 20 fps
stfu goyslop enabler
My pc runs modern games just fine dude PS3 emulation is shit you don't know a fricking thing don't ever reply to me again... b***h!
not an rpg
This.
Not an RPG, not even a good game.
It's an ARPG.
Drakengard is an ARPG.
NieR is an ARPG.
Drakengard 3 is an ARPG.
NieR: Automata is an ARPG.
NieR: Reincarnation is a gacha VN
Drakengard 3 is an ARPG and technically a sequel, but it is not canon.
Incorrect. You are a mentally deficient homosexual.
>Incorrect.
Yeah, the typo at the end is clear. I'd still frick Manah raw tho, so probably not gay? Is that gay? You tell me gaybo, we need help from your gaydar.
Nah it's great
People complain about ff15 but this is where square really went full moron in expecting people to buy DLC for ACTUALLY IMPORTANT STORY MATERIAL!
Anon the drakengard fanbase consists of 500 people, most aren’t even aware what it is
>nier became the persona to drakengards smt
wild
Isn't it basically Nier prequel?
>Isn't it basically Nier prequel?
It is. NieR not only serves as a spiritual successor to Drakengard 1 by inheriting game mechanics but references its characters and themes beyond taking the ending that spawns it. While DoD2 is an unrelated sequel, by the time we roll around to Drag-on Dragoon 3, we're elbow deep. They're the same series at this point, reincarnation too.
The schizos that seethe about NieR are the same set of weirdos who'd seethe over the XIV raid; which serves more as a Drakengard raid thematically and even includes seeds of destruction.
It is. That doesn't magically make its fanbase big. All Drakengard game and even the first Nier didn't sell well and weren't played by that many. The only game that really performed well in that whole series was Automata.
>Series has multiple entries
>They keep making more
>"lol it didn't sell well bro they're just doing them for the lulz"
STFU
Go look up the sales numbers, moron. And just because it didn't sell well doesn't mean it wasn't profitable to some extent, it's not like a lot of money went into making them. Although the original Nier even ended up in red according to its producer. They also kept releasing them because the games got a cult following but there's a good reason they remained incredibly low budget games. Automata was an outlier with its millions of sales.
>Automata was an outlier with its millions of sales.
Automata is why I get to have this cute Emil plush on my desk but damn if I don't hate what it did to the general vibe of the fandom. I wish some of that popularity would eventually trickle down to Drakengard so I could have nice merch of best girls.
>muh waifu
Bro you're part of the problem
They are not my waifus I just think they are funny/awful and would like to have a figma or some shit.
Frick figma culture
With the exception of that Emil plush none of the shit I care about ever gets good merch I have no merch and I must consoom reeeeeeeeeeeeee
>Although the original Nier even ended up in red according to its producer.
NieR did make a profit but it was too late at that point to save Cavia. It didn't sell great worldwide but it did sell in Japan and yeah it got a cult following after it turned out that a host of reviewers were hacks.
If anyone remembers what the gaming press was like back then, it was before the big incident and we were still reading blogs and listicles on gamesradar and kotaku and well, a whole number of them focused on why we in the west were getting ugly dad NieR and panning the graphics which didn't sell the game at all. Then there were reviewers who only got the first ending and the other who refused to review it at all for the magazine it was a shit show. Unless you knew Taro, Cavia or Drakengard you weren't being sold on a narrative ARPG with multiple endings and replayability but on ugly graphics and ugh grinding! This isn't like Demon's Souls at all! ugh!
By the time NieR was finally out they didn't have any other contracts for licensed games going. Cavia was kept afloat on licensing deals and Bullet Witch wasn't a runaway success. People used to joke about whether cavia or level 5 would go under first and level 5 struck it out with Layton & Inazuma 11.
They did have one other original project in the works and you won't find much about it nowadays but we were slated to get a fourth Mistwalker game by Sakaguchi & Uematsu but with no licensing deals left the studio shuttered.
Saito was never employed by Cavia, he was always a producer at Square so Taro maintained his relationship and we eventually got DoD3 & N:A. If NieR had been unprofitable, we'd never have gotten these titles, never mind Automata having a AA budget. They're low budget titles but that's exactly the lane Taro and Saito have always been in: the A & AA space.
>If NieR had been unprofitable, we'd never have gotten these titles,
It's their own words. Saito insisted to keep the series going. I think the interest from Platinumgames helped, as they were apparently interested in continuing Nier. Either way none of these games were some kind of big success, hence they kept being given very small budgets to work with.
I don't contradict anything. The only thing that could have made them any money was Drakengard, and basically only in Japan's sales. And Nier didn't do shit. Read more dev interviews.
>And just because it didn't sell well doesn't mean it wasn't profitable to some extent
When your first sentence contradicts itself it's because you're full of shit. By definition any game that makes a profit sold well. It doesn't need to sell a gorillion copies, that stupid mentality is what gets you shit games made for the lowest common denominator.
Thanks to NieR and Drakengard Taro and Co. can make a living. These games are niche works and they're good being that way. For the rest read
.
I now desperately need a hentai of Kaine and Zero hate-fricking each other's brain out.
best I can offer is Kaine x shota Nier
54484
Would Kaine be a virgin? Since everyone around her was disgusted or scared of her.
At least until she met nier, after which point it becomes a big question mark. Anything could have happened during the timeskip.
I don't care if the series is supported by one tismo buying up the game by the pallet. It's a shit practice.
Asura's Wrath has the entire ending, which is a series of new boss battles, as a DLC. There's also two chapter DLC, but they're very optional and are 100% QTEs in a different art style instead of 3D.
>Make a bait thread for a niche game
Why?/
I played this at 4K/120fps with a 3080. It was divine kino. The music is the best of any videogame ever
I just love how it was paced. Just a fun video game that never felt boring... Except having to collect weapons or whatever to get the real ending
Save
Zero I mean. She's cute and I think she would be happy if she became my wife. We can play her mediocre game together
>used goods hag
EWW EWW EWW EWW
talk about hotdog down a hallway it probably prolapse when she runs
hawt
>talks about lazy mods
>won't go into detail on how the game is "not an RPG"
yeah, nah
you gotta put some effort in scrublet
>>won't go into detail on how the game is "not an RPG"
More like the opposite given
>all types of role-playing video games, including single-player, multi-player, and massively multi-player, turn-based and real-time action, western-style and JRPG.
Guess that means I can make, Zelda, MH and DMC threads then.
it's a jrpg so it's allowed, stop posting any time.
You can watch any of the interviews with Taro and Saito where they refer to the games as ARPGs and list their influences like KH. It's an ARPG, SE class it as an ARPG, the producer classes it as an ARPG, the director classes it as an ARPG and the fans do too.
>hasn't read the sticky
>continues shitting his diaper over every single game he doesn't like
newbie please go
Because that was worth the bump. Thanks for prolonging an already dead thread.
Yes, Taro has never made a good game.
true, he's only made fantastic ones.
Hey would anyone be interested in a drakengard fanconvention in America
I finished it for the first time a few months ago. Just the first ending, I had no interest in continuing after that.
I won't sugarcoat it, I thought it was dogshit.
The moment that epitomized the game for me was that terrible desert level where you constantly lose health when you're not in the shade. The level is full of wolf enemies that burrow underground, except they were only programmed to be able to do that on flat terrain so in the desert level they instead just do a wolfy T-pose and float around intangibly in the air.
The whole game is like that. It's shoddily made to the point where it feels like the people making it just didn't care.
So many of the fights are just obnoxious to play. Bosses, random enemies, side quests. They just feel like a chore. The ghost enemies that don't take any knockback at all are the absolute worst; if I made a list of top ten most frustrating RPG enemies they'd make it.
And the battles that aren't obnoxious are just mediocre. Drag-On Dragoon 3 ASPIRES to mediocrity. I think it's the worst game I finished in 2023.
The only things I particularly liked about it where the character designs and the writing. The first half of the game has some particularly memorable moments and they were what pushed me to finish it.
I can't be mad at people who just skip Drag-On Dragoon entirely and just start with Nier. I don't think getting a broader perspective on the series is worth putting yourself through this game. I've played some stinky Square Enix games before but this one is up there.
Skill issue
Game hasa 3 in a tiltle, action takes place before 1. Should have been called Drakengard Zero or smth.
Considering the protagonist's name, they probably were considering that at some point,
it gets repetitive but the story is pretty entertaining, got that good ol yoko taro smell all over it
>my first visit to this board and see this
>frick yeah
The gameplay, yeah.