>Dungeon Master

>quotes sth that never was written/said
Schizo behaviour

>does not know what the internet is
It is to be expected

Playing dumb is neither clever nor cute. Just makes you look like a disingenuous worm.

>Long post from a STEM autist.
>Accuse you of being emotional or smugly post about how you "don't read paragraphs, lol".
Oh look. It's a neurotypical getting offended that I'm always specific and detailed, because 'subtext' is easily misconstrued. I'm sure if I had been brief you'd be strawmanning me now with a bunch of hallucinations about what you think I really meant.

That was just a regular post. I'm a little annoyed *now*, but you morons make these projections often enough that I can't say I'm surprised. I'm explicit and detailed, yes. Meanwhile, you're a moronic schizo projecting irrational emotion at every post over one sentence, because you can't form or parse paragraphs yourself.

Learn to read, and maybe a paragraph won't scare you so much.

>Not hiding your autism is bait.
Nope. Admitted it before the moron even replied to me. It's right there:

Compsci degree programmer here. It's the focus on critical thinking and formal logic. 'Progressivism' requires way too many logical fallacies, circular reasoning, emotional manipulations, and double standards. Yes, more of us are autistic, but a lot of us are pragmatic logical autists rather than delusionally emotional autists. But I would suspect there are somewhat more trans autistic programmers than blue collar professions. I suspect the computer engineers lean even more towards logical autist than emotional. Conservative ideology runs on groupthink too though. I suspect more of us are unaffiliated or at least not dogmatic about our affiliations, than in other professions. Progressivists have sometimes call me a 'neoliberal' because I don't think everything they want me to think. I'm not a neoliberal either though. Conservatives, eventually seem to realize I'm none of the above, but they still get angry about dogma.

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No, they're dungeon amateurs. It's a skill issue.

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Yes. Just leave us alone and let us make a living, preferably one where we don't have to interact much with non-stem-people.

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But I am tired of that particular brand of smugly illiterate neurotypical who pitches a fit at paragraphs and hallucinates up a bunch of nonsense reinterpretations when you make a brief post.

My wife's neurotypical. Most of you guys aren't moronic. But there's very frequently one of these

>"I am extremely rational"
>*entirely emotional and delusional ramblings*
Every time

morons coming out of the woodwork online that both can't handle paragraphs and can't parse short sentences without hallucinating whole fricking conversations in their imaginations and then screeching about the shit they imagined.

But this admittedly is a bait thread, and I did take the bait. I tried to get people to talk about traditional games, but instead you're all whining about tangential sidenote I made about autism and programmers.

Now let's try to get this back ontopic again:

https://i.imgur.com/IHIeWYY.jpg

>Dungeon Master
does that mean everyone else is the Dungeon Slave?

Why does mastery of a craft make you think of slavery? Maybe you just need to practice and read up on GM techniques, and challenge yourself. Perhaps deconstruct a game's design and math, so you can understand how the parts and subsystems interact? Or try pushing your boundaries to design more interesting scenarios without railroading? Or read up on the techniques other people have designed to improve their skills at the same?

>Mastery of a craft

This phrase derives from medieval guilds than ran off of indentured servitude if not outright slavery.

>Makes a historical claim.
>No citations included.
>No corroborating mentions in typical etymology sources

Oh, Source?

https://www.etymonline.com/word/mastery
>c. 1200, mesterie, maistrie, "state or condition of being a master, control, dominance," also "superiority, ascendancy, the upper hand, victory in war or a contest;" from Old French maistrie (Modern French maîtrise), from maistre "master" (see master (n.)). Meaning "intellectual command" (of a topic, art, etc.), "expert skill" is from c. 1300.
>late Old English mægester "a man having control or authority over a place; a teacher or tutor of children," from Latin magister (n.) "chief, head, director, teacher" (source of Old French maistre, French maître, Spanish and Italian maestro, Portuguese mestre, Dutch meester, German Meister), contrastive adjective ("he who is greater") from magis (adv.) "more," from PIE *mag-yos-, comparative of root *meg- "great." The form was influenced in Middle English by Old French cognate maistre.
>From late 12c. as "man eminently or perfectly skilled in something," also "one who is chief teacher of another (in religion, philosophy, etc.), religious instructor, spiritual guide." Sense of "master workman or craftsman, workman who is qualified to teach apprentices and carry on a trade on his own account" is from c. 1300. The meaning "one charged with the care, direction, oversight, and control of some office, business, etc." is from mid-13c.; specifically as "official custodian of certain animals kept for sport" early 15c. (maister of þe herte houndes; the phrase master of the hounds is attested by 1708). As a title of the head or presiding officer of an institution, late 14c.; as "captain of a merchant vessel" early 14c.
>In academic sense "one who has received a specific degree" (translating Medieval Latin magister) it is attested from mid-13c., originally "one who has received a degree conveying authority to teach in the universities;" master's degree, originally a degree giving one authority to teach in a university, is from late 14c.

Seems a general authority term.
You got a citation for that claim, or are you just asking ChatGPT to make up bullshit hoping nobody will fact check you?

Graduated in 2012, actually.

I just wanted to emphasize that I'm not some self-taught PHP programmer with no understanding of data structures and algorithms and no education in math and logic, or a community college trained C# programmer they rushed out the door in two years who can write C# fast, but has no programming fundamentals, I've worked with people like that, and they write shit code, and we always hated having to fix all their broken garbage.

Self taught programmers and college programmers are different (under-trained).

>You should be ashamed of skills you spent years of time and effort to build.
Ohhhhh. Is that why you're so bad at DMing too, and feel a need to view the DM as a slavemaster? Other people spending time to master skills makes you seethe? You could put in the work and learn skills of your own, you know.

You could learn to GM; just like they could learn data structures and algorithms and project management and programming fundamentals. But I guess some people are just determined not to learn to be good at anything, and just want to halfass their way through life.

https://i.imgur.com/IHIeWYY.jpg

>Dungeon Master
does that mean everyone else is the Dungeon Slave?

Just get to reading. It's all laid out for you, step by step. You too, could learn to master games.

I'd quote more people's GMing books if more people wrote decent Gaming books. Lazy DM has some pointers for prepping a bit more efficiently but doesn't teach the fundamentals. Robin's Laws is a pamphlet full of semi decent but obnoxiously vague information, because it's just too short. Arbiter of Worlds has all that pointlessly edgy wankery. Role-Playing Mastery is too tainted by Gygax's defensiveness over being forced out of TSR. so You Want To Be a Game Master is broken down step by step as a GM101 textbook with exercises to test what you learned, built in. Most of the others I've encountered are a disorganized jumble of ideas and they leave the unpracticed GM reader to figure out what's actually important.

4e DMG had some decent advice for the social part of running a game, 3e DMG had some decent advice regarding learning how to make workable homebrew.

If you have other decent GM books worth suggesting, by all means, go ahead and list them. I haven't read *everything*.

> Why does mastery of a craft make you think of slavery?
Because he has no identity beyond his politics, or more accurately, he felt his identity beyond his politics was spoiled/squandered/unworthy and destroyed it in its entirety.

Probably accurate. And if his affiliations are his whole identity, I would be shocked if he's done any critical thinking regarding any specific views his fellow cultmembers want him to have. Just think what you're told to think.

>Hurr, you don't need to learn anything to be a good GM, it's not a real skill.
Dungeon Pleb detected.
It's not a /profitable/ skill. Not all skills are profitable. And it's also not rocket science. If it was taught through a university or college, sure, you'd be pretty good at it after three or four undergrad-level 1-term classes. That doesn't mean anyone can just do it without putting in the time and effort.
If you've run any games at all, I'm sure your poor players regretted showing up.

>He plays Dungeon Crawlers
GMing is a skill that applies to all RPGs, not just Dungeon-Crawl-D&D. I actually prefer my dungeon crawlers as Vidya. Diablo 1 maybe, or the party game Crawl, or Wizard of Legend, for top down, Castlevania for sidescrolling mega dungeon crawlers. If I'm going to play D&D at all, it's only as a heavily house ruled 3e faction conflict sandbox game.
>Intellectual High Ground
Saying "don't be moronic, pick up a decent fricking GM book and learn to run a fricking tabletop RPG, skills are things you can sit down and learn if you're not a lazy shit, and this one won't take that fricking long" is not at all like pretending to be some kind of savant physicist, you strawmanning, disingenuous, obtuse, theatre kiddie, YouTube-addled, illiterate twat. Christ.

>Hurr everything is trolling lololol.
Sure sure. Whatever makes you happy.