Why are they so underrated? Nobody cares about them, not even dwarf-gays. I can't think of any story that features a female dwarf as main character.
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Kind of difficult to square away a woman's role in a hypermasculine society like the dwarfs. I think most people just assume they're managing the homestead while the men are out campaigning/adventuring to bring their clan glory. Since most tabletop campaigns take place outside of a dwarf city/ofrtress your average player is just not likely to see them.
>Since most tabletop campaigns take place outside of a dwarf city/ofrtress your average player is just not likely to see them.
My next game will take place entirely within a great Dwarven megacity under the mountain and there's going to be giant 100ft statues of kings and hoards of gold.
Also, thicc.
>Why are they so underrated?
>dwarf females
>females
answered it yourself anon
Most people just seem to go with the most basic assumption based off of Tolkien - that they're homebodies and demographically uncommon so rarely seen and rarely travel. You need not do it this way if you don't want to. Even in a setting where these factors are true (Middle-Earth, Warhammer Fantasy), there are exceptions to the rule, and stories tend to be about exceptional people.
This thread again?
Coomer slide
Bump.
Bearded dwarf women are not the norm. In Warhammer Fantasy it actually is a good way to pick a fight with a dwarf by asking (in deliberate mockery or not) if their women are bearded.
Change starts with you OP. Have dwarf females present out in the open world instead of squirreled away in their mountain cities. Have them doing things. You'll probably have to modify how dwarven society typically works by making it more amenable to women doing things though.
love art of dwarf blacksmith girls with aprons on and their breasts exposed nothing like getting a hot spark of metal right in between the cleavage unf that's the fricking shit right there frick OSHA for denying us our blessed scorched fat boulders in the real world
If a Woman's breasts can't withstand the heat of the forge she ain't a dwarf son.
>Pictured: A dwarf couple's sexy night in
>Not a Dwarven Threesome
Pathetic.
What are you talking about? The Anvil is right there between them!
>that's the joke.jpg
I respect your taste in women and name choice, tripgay.
I can imagine a dwarf actually saying this.
because people keep writing dorfs like they run on a medieval christian conservative mindset even if every other faction/race in the whole world is more woke than a black pride parade.
So that's why dwarfs continue to be based as frick, nice.
Exactly!
>thinks medieval christians were based
Anon, quit touching the devil machine, we're going to burn you at the stake now.
Afterwards we're going to cure ourselves from the cursed diseases we might get from touching you by using leeches to bleed ourselves and by literally eating cow dung.
wow you're soooo enlightened
No matter how bad it gets the past was always worse, otherwise there won't have been any Progress. And that's obviously ridiculous isn't it?
I dunno. I'm skeptical
>"No matter how bad it gets the past was always worse"
>posts a roman picture
How can I person be so oblivious?
>How can I person be so oblivious?
Everyone around has been asking this for a while now.
Romans shared a sponge on a stick to wipe their asses, then they murdered each other in petty civil wars and when not doing that suffered under crippling economic inequality.
Go frick yourself if you think the principate was in any way better than what we have today.
>your butthole scrubber, my lord
Because fantasy RPGS are a medium of repetition, and as you mentioned there exist no stories that really feature female dwarves prominantly. There was a time when it could have happened, but it didn't. The time has passed, the pop culture has solidified, dwarf women will always be niche fetish fuel or an afterthought. Who cares about dwarf women, now excuse me while I copy paste Gimli son of Gloin for the 119th time but change his name so he's an original character donut steel.
in the sequel to that Snow White movie there were two female dwarves as love interests for the two male dwarves, never seen that in live action before
> Dwarf women
> Has picture of a beardless woman
Who are you trying to fool Op?
/tg/ seethes at bearded dwarves because they can't fap to them or are obsessed with trannies. I find them kinda funny in a weird way so I like them, makes them more unique. Even if they don't have beards, they're so important to dwarves that I'd imagine their women would have fake beards for certain occasions, maybe by braiding their hair around their face. Kinda like the tattoos of Ainu women.
Dwarves in FF14 are basically just a culture of halflings (in their terms, Lalafel) that have what you would consider typical dwarvish traits, plus they also all wear big fake beards and face concealing hats. Different villages have different styles of hats and beards that are rigidly enforced, as with your face concealed your hat and beard are how you are recognized as an upstanding member of the community and not one of those shitbag goatfrickers from the next town over, curse their name and piss on their graves.
You never show your real face in public, that puts you in danger. Because they are smaller and generally weaker than the other races, they protect themselves and each other by making it impossible for an outsider to ever pick a fight with a single dwarf, you pick a fight with a whole town of them or none at all. Safety in numbers. but that only works so long as they make it as difficult for untrusted outsiders to single them out as possible, hence the face concealment. Any dwarf that breaks from this tradition risks exile.
Lali-ho motherfricker
You'd have to PAY me to care about ff14.
Your loss, bro. Its probably the best realized fantasy setting in a decade. Perhaps longer.
you are moronic
I wish your type could stop being so condescending for no reason
>ur game SUCKS
>your loss bro
>WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH Y R U CONDESCENDING ME?!?!?
Why are anti-weebs such thinskinned lil b***hes?
The weird thing is they're on a weeb site in the first place. It's like if I hated basket weaving and posted on a basket weaving website because they had a good sub board about quilting and I got pissy anytime someone mentioned basket weaving on the quilting board.
>disliking xiv makes you anti weeb.
It's just not quality product to me
>Because they are smaller and generally weaker than the other races
Incorrect. Lalas are just as strong as any of the other races, in fact, they're described as being like ants: small, but more than capable of picking up ten times their own body weight.
Hell, the most prominent dwarf is a flat out frontline warrior more than capable of punching people incredibly hard. Like, break through magical barriers hard.
>sex bad
>things nobody said
ah yes when you say someone is seething, it's meant in an extremely positive way
Seems to have been an accurate statement since you seethed so hard you think someone is telling that all sex appeal is bad.
Gonna go throw a cope and a bit of dilate on the side for you then
>if I'm being disingenuous I can pretend to have a point
sad
>>if I'm being disingenuous
Projection.
Nah the "beards" of the female dwarfs are actually the hair on their head that they take care of as much as the male dwarfs care for their beards. At least that's how I think it should be.
This. Men preen their breads, women have immaculate and well-styled hair.
I like this idea.
This is how it is done in Warhammer.
It's also telling that none of these images have dwarf women with immaculate hair or fantastic styles. (
) is just double dutch braids, (
) is some weird anachronistic zoomer cut. no israeliteelry in the hair, no wild braid styles, nothing unusual
>shitting on dungeon meshi dwarves when it actually has one of the more interesting takes on dwarves in fiction and a developed female dwarven character and they have different anatomies to humans
You are a homosexual.
I'm not shitting on whatever the hell that is, I've never even heard of that property. I'm just pointing out that the people posting "n-no beards are going a step too far, just give them crazy hairstyles!" and then proceeded to post the most boring hairstyles imaginable.
>expecting an attention whoring namecuck to not have shit takes for attention
Honestly just ignore anyone who posts with a name outside of very specific circumstances, anon.
>attacking the person rather than what they are saying
how you know when your argument is complete shit
>implying self-obsessed narcissist namegays are worth wasting your time arguing with
If I didn’t have the name you would come up with some other excuse to dismiss my argument, because you’re clearly too stupid to defend your own beliefs. Which is fine, but don’t try to spread your stupidity to others.
>anachronistic
Please, do set us right on what dwarf women from a place that is not Earth wore.
I guess I only mentioned it because usually this board is against having modern side-cuts and asymmetric bobs in fantasy.
So...no different from regular women then? That's not interesting or fantastical.
100% perfectly interesting if taken to the logical extremes that the men do with their beards. I really somehow doubt you go into elf threads and throw a fricking fit about how they don't have dog ears or leaves for hair or some equally stupid shit. Absurd and goofy does not equal interesting.
I just think fantasy creatures should look and be fantastical. Dwarf women having beards is a small thing in comparison to how weird you can make dwarfs if you really wanted too. They could be pale, hairless underground stoneworkers riding on blind cave worms.
Best dwarf right there.
You fricking wish
85 percent of regular woman put their hair up in a tangled ball on their head because they were too lazy to comb it today.
bump
Frick what you think.
Cry about it then, I guess.
Gay'er than aids anon. Dwarf women have sideburns or even mutton chops. The way Moradin intended. Anything else is straight up Fey.
>Even if they don't have beards, they're so important to dwarves that I'd imagine their women would have fake beards for certain occasions, maybe by braiding their hair around their face. Kinda like the tattoos of Ainu women.
I like to imagine that they do that purely to frick with foreigners. Whenever there's word of a foreign merchant or diplomat or traveller in town, some of the women will do that and everyone will pretend that Dwarf women have beards as well.
/tg/ seethes at bearded dwarves because it's pushed by the most insufferable subset of people involved in the hobby. Bearded dwarf women are a litmus test to discover who is involved in the hobby purely for ideological reasons and not to actually partake in playing any games.
>Bearded dwarf women are a litmus test to discover who is involved in the hobby purely for ideological reasons and not to actually partake in playing any games.
Ironic since this sounds like pure culture war obsession
>if you like thing that means you're associated with this much larger obnoxious group
I don't get it man. I just like the idea. It'd be cool to see more art like
Literally why? Dwarves follow almost every convention of nothern european culture standards, the addition of beards is some "Le quirky" idea that adds nothing.
>the addition of beards is some "Le quirky" idea that adds nothing.
but only for females, right?
it adds a fantastical element to a race that can easily just become short humans instead. simple as.
how come you don't push for beards for elves so they don't become Skinny Humans or Orcs so they don't become Green Humans
oi m8 ur fukken settin's startin 2 lewk a little 2 mundane innit, gotta make ur races a bit more fan-tas-tee-kull
What are you talking about weirdo
I push for beardless male elves instead, which amounts to the same concept.
But it doesn't add anything, it's not fantasticaly to just randomly have women be hairy when the rest of the dwarf culture mirrors northern european culture.
I mean, it literally is fantastically by definition. You can argue it's meaningless and random if you like, but simple aesthetic changes like that can make a race seem more alien.
>Dwarves follow almost every convention of nothern european culture standards
Northern Europeans aren't all short hairy midgets who live in underground and in mountains. We're talking about a fantasy race here, you can do whatever you want with them. And if you want to go about purism, Tolkien took a lot of his inspirations for dwarves from israelites, and his dwarves take even more liberties from traditional mythological dwarves who were related to elves.
Bearded dwarf women were in the art of official AD and D products in the 80s, there just weren't internet culture warriors to care about it
Most just don't want to be assed dealing with the psychotic spergs who demand they have beards like and
No beard? Not dwarf. Simple as.
>playing LotR or Discworld campaign
Sure, although strictly speaking it's never confirmed in the LotR books if they have beards or not.
>anything else
No.
sperg post. Nice.
vased
how
how you make it to move
Forgotten Realms dwarf girls had beards, at least some clans, until it was retconned.
No one's being psychotic but you and your victim complex here
troony fetish moment
which pieces did you use to make that mini?
can you even share links on this site?
https://www.heroforge.com/load_config%3D85d09601-0f6e-483a-bba0-1d3b462dd863/Lady%20of%20the%20Lion/
Give the scenario why a clan leader or really any dwarven father would allow his precious daughter to go out exploring when the future of the clan depends on her children?
beside you assuming a particular kind of society below a particular size, when has that ever stopped any adventurer worth their salt
Not all dwarves have a skewed male to female ratio.
If in Warhanmer, perhaps she's sterile. That might actually provoke a dwarf woman to take a slayer oath. Not all settings have them being a demographic minority though so you'd have to specify.
A clan leader doesn't need to produce a lot of children. They need one heir. The working class need to produce more laborers. Adventuring is philanthropy, and philanthropy is the new marketing. It's good business.
Because she's disobeying her father.
Clan leader ded...? Only survivors are women pair-bonded to dead men, sons died to war.
They become the Blood Widows, orc hunters with no pity, having gone cold in their heart, and becoming mothers to the rest of the dwarven nation by allowing them a bit more peace.
Bam!
I have female dwarves with beards in my setting and none of you can stop me.
Ok nogaems
That's why you have a setting and not a game.
Namari single-handedly changed my attitude on dwarven women.
Are they really dwarves if the women can't grow beards?
BeardBlack folk are the Noldorgays of dwarf threads. Literally cannot shut the frick up about it. If you like them that way it's totally fine, but stop pissing and shitting dozens of posts in every dwarf thread about it.
Pathfinder has a lot of dwarven cultures and ethnic groups with actual identities, rather than them being a monolith of drunken miners and smiths, and their women aren't terribly hidden away. You see lots of lady dwarves on Golarion, from Pahmet sand-benders to Taralu diplomats.
these photoshops are getting kinda pathetic
thank you
why is she holding the world's largest chitterling
They often look like uggos
But its changing
I like female dwarf beards. They just look like short women or worse little girls otherwise. Most of the art of female dwarves in this thread is boring
Where the FRICK is her beard?
Behind her skirt
Are there any bearded female dwarves that are actually rendered to look cool
No.
How would a female dwarf style her heard differently from a male dwarf
Easy, with a gender discrepancy of 10:1 a single dwarfette represents GENERATIONS of future dwarfs, so any neon colored haired harpy screeching about "gender equality" would be chucked from a catapult before the first drunk pint. The only exception would be if the dwarfette was found to be sterile, which would probably be so shameful that she would kill herself immediately or be hidden away to hide this fact. Now to say that dwarfette lives are in any way bad would be an outright lie, as they would live in luxury that we would consider extreme. Also Dwarf Matriarchs would be the Pope, having little "hard" power but possessing VAST "soft" power, if a Matriarch decides to step into a matter then it's 99% certain that it will be settled in their favor.
If a dwarfette or Matriarch decides to travel anywhere she'll most likely have a bodyguard detail that would consist of her male relatives, sons, brothers, cousins, nephews, and armed with broken OP as frick armor and weapons and WILL fight to the last breath to defend them. Additionally a dwarfette would have it hammered into her that SHE determines the future of her people, and so rules more like Queen Elizabeth rather than Girlbozz slay queen.
>Nobody cares about them, not even dwarf-gays
There's been quite a bit of interest in getting the dwarven furnacewife class unlocked in the By This Axe kickstarter, much more so than for any of the other stretch goals.
Like this?
>Tall and thin
Ruined
I like dwarf women with sideburns.
great, the worst of both worlds
>have the exoticism of some facial hair that isn't normal for the gender, but it isn't as large and distracting as a big bushy beard
What's the problem?
looks gross
>What's the problem?
It's not a problem on its own, but it's a symptom of one.
my dude
>Player: They're like the perfect women!
>System: Slower Movement
>Player: I'll stick to short Human women.
Still mad she wasn't a romance option. Dragon Age hasn't had a good female romance option since the first game and I blame everyone who played female to romance Alistair for making Bioware think all DA fans are women.
wat game
please
wildfire druid, some dnd 5e book I think
thanks
>No beard
Nice
>Beard
Disgusting
>"Beard" in between her legs.
Gentleman's pick.
My love for hairy women has nothing to do with the fact stated above.
Because they never showed up in LOTR and morons take Gimli's joke seriously about their appearance and then apply it to all dwarfs from all fiction.
One of dwarves' most iconic looks is bearded.
Human females typically do not have beards.
Therefore, dwarven females, as human-like beings, are caught in the limbo of either needing beards to be "iconic" or no beards to look "human".
Frankly, this is why I never use anything that looks human.
Rat Queens has a dwarven female protagonist- they even get into her backstory, dwarven women, etc. She shaves her beard.
Rat Queens is also complete dogshit so not exactly a stellar endorsement.
>Rat Queefs
Rat Queefs is hands down the worst fantay comic Ive ever read. It feels like it was written by a middle-aged feminist from California whose also a catmom of 10 cats and drawn by her beta simp orbiter who she keeps around for self-esteem.
>It feels like it was written by a middle-aged feminist from California whose also a catmom of 10 cats and drawn by her beta simp orbiter who she keeps around for self-esteem.
It's not?
I got an oldhammer dwarf army with one (1) female model, and it is my centerpiece, my Lord, my queen.
Also, shortstacked AND properly chubby, with an over-representation in redheads? This tick so many boxes, I can't figure why they're not fricking everywhere.
What would it be like to have a dwarven wife as a human male?
>short
>buff
>tenuous facial hair situations
Sounds like Ganker to me.
Every male dwarf wants you dead. But really it varies depending on the setting and circumstances as say MGE monster dwarf wives are considered normal while uncorrupted dwarf women are so preciously guarded that they'd kill you to steal her for themselves.
In Fantasy the dwarfs would also hate you but surprisingly we know dwarfs think humans are too obsessed with sex and also never last long enough so she'd not be interested for a month and then take you for six hours straight on a random Sunday.
you could probably move to wales and find out
Human dong is too small for dwarf women.
Dwarves can be on the shorter end of actual human height, so not really.
I luv them
>now it bumps the thread like bumpgay, desperate for even a crumb of attention
lol
I'm starting to think this accusation of narcissism might be projection, friend.
It's a pro feature, unfortunately. Underneath the booth options.
is pro worth it? was thinking about buying it
what features do pro mode have?
It's cool if you like dicking around with character creators, but I'm typically not a fan of subscription-based things and you already get most of the tools for free anyway.
The spinning .gifs and advanced lighting features are cool, but the most useful thing is the Community page where you can import other people's poses, characters, and paint schemes.
>but the most useful thing is the Community page
so that's how some anon was posting nsfw minis in some thread
thanks
My guess is half of them are ‘NoOOooO, women can’t have facial hair! Women are entirely different than men, you can’t show them as anything other than smooth!’
And half of them are ‘THEY MUST HAVE BEARDS. IF THEY DONT HAVE BEARDS YOU ARE A WEAK, SPINELESS COWARD!’
So the two sides eat each other and destroy female dwarf representation no matter how it’s done
Dungeon Meshi did it best. They do grow more than other races, but they shave like anyone else. They dont typically have full on beards.
But she's a half-elf.
That's probably why she was panicking about getting looked at that closely
I've actually been passively brainstorming a story about a dwarf women, and have had a lot of fun doing it. I think the main problem is that wokefolk have shit on the very idea of female protags by pushing moronic gender swapped MC's in established IP's, and/or make female protags with zero depth of conflict. By no means am I saying my shitty and vague daydream concept is above any of that, but it's an already poisoned well before you even get started.
Then there is the issue where the peak of dwarf women in fantasy has essentially been the butt of the beard joke. That is quite literally the extent of their contribution in the past, and I honestly feel holds them back from ever being bigger than that. Women do not resonate with that image, men do not find it attractive, and it sort of falls victim to the aforementioned, "female MC's are just men with ovaries," stereotype, but now also manifested in physical form.
>it's an already poisoned well before you even get started.
Also dwarves are 'problematic' because real live dwarfs or something I don't care but I don't need the 'reeeeee'. It's a minefield out there, I shelved a similar concept.
>beard joke
You can't mention dolphins anymore either.
Don't focus too much on that woke bs. Just write your story. We need more people not depicting the dumb "strong women are just genderswapped men" shit that modern media has a hard-on for for some reason.
If the story is good on its own merits and the female protagonist is not a "Female Protagonist™" it should be fine. People were making women heroes long before Bree Larson's flat ass stared in a Marvel capeshit film anon, so do what you do. Honestly, if you have a decent idea, it can only be good for the genre as a whole, even if you never get it through to publish. Though, self publishing would be your best bet imo.
Make her a half-dwarf if you really want to contribute something unusual.
I did in a sense.
Riply from the Alien series was literally written as a man in the script.
Funny how thats the only example you can bring up, because its the only time that it worked.
Yeah that's about as articulate as I expected you to get.
Shut up, b***h.
Make me, c**t.
>Photo-realistic human woman
>Unibrow uggo dwarf woman
>Half dwarf
>Short tomboy anime waifu
We have a winner folks.