>eat months old expired butter you found behind the couch
>everything is fine
>drink a little bit of fresh rainwater
>100% guaranteed death
This game is FULL OF SHIT.
>eat months old expired butter you found behind the couch. >everything is fine
>eat months old expired butter you found behind the couch
>everything is fine
>drink a little bit of fresh rainwater
>100% guaranteed death
This game is FULL OF SHIT.
Butter takes a really long time to actually "expire" honestly. The rain water doesn't make sense to me though. However I know nothing about this game and don't even know what it's called.
Butter goes rancid in a matter of days if it's not refrigerated.
No, no it doesnt. Unsalted butter does go bad faster than salted though. But in general real butter is fine not being refrigerated.
He's right though lol, leave butter out of the fridge for a week and try eating it. It will not taste very good.
margarine is not butter
real butter can sit outside the fridge for months, and in fact its best to do that because refridgerated butter is annoying to spread over your toast
Raw butter spoils even faster than store butter.
This isn't true at all, where the frick do you get your information? People have been storing butter at room temperature for generations.
From leaving butter out of the fridge and forgetting about it until the rancid smell reminded me.
You sound disgusting, dirty and moronic.
zoomies don’t know what butter was like in the 90s before everyone started buying goy “”butter”” that becomes a pool of oil after 4 hours out of the fridge
Clearly Big Butter is conspiring with the israelites to sell us homosexual butter loaded with hormones and mind control drugs.
Butter was usually stored in a special cool lockers built into the walls of your home or in some cases small communities shared a large one. It wasn't anywhere near as cold as modern refrigerators but food generally wasn't stored at room temp, and even before that butter and similar foods were buried to keep it fresh longer.
>special cool lockers built into the walls
My brother in christ do you know what cellars were used for?
We don't have cellars in my country, old houses have small lockers built into the walls.
What country? Either the ground is immensely hard so digging it wasn't worth it, or it's basically sand
Cellars are almost natural fridges, maintaining a temperature of usually 12-14°C
Ireland, the ground is too wet for cellars in most places and it's pretty mild here for most of the year so small lockers were deemed enough I guess.
We have these in some old apartment buildings
Yes and no. Butter has a slow burn rate but it is perishable. If you eat it regularly you go through it fast enough to not matter. It's expensive enough that most people won't over purchase it. If you use butter sparingly or buy in bulk it should be kept cold and will last months that way.
Also in the old days before refrigeration salted butter was much more heavily salted to preserve it. These days it's barely salted so there isn't much difference in taste or shelf life.
Yes and people have been dying for generations. Stop improperly storing butter, chud!
I keep my butter in a butter dish so it's easier to spread. It doesn't go bad after a week. I don't live in a hot climate though so maybe our experience could be different because of factors like that.
What kind of shitty moron butter are you eating?
put it in a dish so it doesnt oxidize, and it will taste the same at room temperature for multiple weeks
For what purpose are you this moronic and so confident about it too?
He probably doesn't eat real butter, some kind of factory made mimicry, maybe.
He's American
Can't blame this on Americans. I always keep a stick of butter at room temp in a fancy glass holder thing just like my parents did for easy spreading on bread, and I put butter on literally everything like a proper American.
jewposting hours?
Definitely a zoomer, maybe underage. Anyone living alone uses butter and knows how long it lasts.
I've got a plate of butter sitting on my counter that is months old and still fine.
Report back on v if you suddenly start dying
What? I leave butter on the counter for a month...After that, some mould starts to build up.
Either you live in Cairns Australia or some other humid area or you’re moronic.
Found the American
It makes me sad that morons like you actually exist.
>refrigerating his butter
homie you been eating margerine all this time
you dont freeze butter, otherwise it gets to hard to pass on stuff
Project Zomboid. The game lets you collect rainwater but it gives you lethal poisoning if you drink it without boiling it.
That's more of a river water thing. Is there an in game reason to explain why the rain water is tainted?
ironically, I believe river water isn't tainted. That shit is all changing in the next patch anyhow
Well, river water won't necessarily make you sick in real life either. However, it's more likely to because of parasites or illness from other animals or whatver could be floating around upstream. That's pretty stupid but kind of funny.
Flowing water good, stagnant water bad. River water should be good most of the time.
Pretty sure my character got sick from not boiling river water before, but I haven't played since last year.
I believe you can drink it once to get your thirst meter down and be fine, but if you repeatedly drink it without giving it a few hours you'll get sick.
You can actually drink from rivers in the game and you get sick but don't die unless you have a character with the weak stomach trait. Only rainwater is 100% lethal for all characters.
or if put it in a sink
stagnant rainwater can easily go bad because of bacteria. you're still supposed to use a filtration system if you collect rainwater and use it as drinking water
>but it gives you lethal poisoning if you drink it without boiling it.
Imagine taking weak digestion then being a moron and drinking the water clearly marked UNSAFE in your inventory.
It's lethal because the government pumped a bunch of zombification chemicals into the air causing it to mix with rainwater dumbasses. Listen to TV/radio broadcasts in-game.
rainwater doesn't even turn you into a zombie it just kills you by from a normal infection afaik.
>honestly
>though
>however
>Actual uneducated moron tries to assess written English and fails.
Try to think things through before you post you pitiful imbecile.
make this thread again when update 42 drops
>when update 42 drops
so 10 years from now?
>implying it will ever drop
When does update 42 drop?
Butter doesn't spoil in a week. There is a reason it was stored for multiple seasons and taken on ships for long voyages. It's more likely that you left margarine out and don't know the difference, or are so unhygienic that your butter was infested with something nasty.
It is. Real butter isn't bad for you. People have been eating it for thousands of years. The modern stigma on butter was stirred up by margarine companies so they could push sales of their solidified vegetable oil bars. No, really, go read about all of the campaigns butter and margarine have run against each other.
You're a moron. The butter that was taken on "long voyages" was inedibly salty and had to be leeched in water before being used. Modern day butter is not nearly salty enough to have any significant shelf life outside of the fridge and will go rancid quickly
>Modern day butter is not nearly salty enough to have any significant shelf life outside of the fridge and will go rancid quickly
you're speaking out of your ass
I think you're speaking out your ass. Fats will oxidize with air, salt can slow this down, refrigeration can slow this down but leaving it out on the side will not. It will go rancid.
yeah? but it's not gonna go 'rancid' in a week, you moron. i think you need to live in more hygienic places.
Unless its the middle of winter, yes it literally will, hygiene has nothing to do with it.
begone, loathsome filthy one
The outer layer of butter can and will go rancid eventually. You'd just skim that layer off.
I have a PhD in fats and cream.
I spent 7 years of my life studying the intricacies of butter and I have been working as the butter and lard chairman for a fortune 100 company.
>I have a PhD in fats and cream.
Well, I will cream in your fat PhD ass then! Not so smart now, huh?
a little bit of fresh rainwater
>>100% guaranteed death
American propaganda kek. I know it's illegal there. But maybe your rainwater really is toxic because of the McSweat coming off of your fat bodies and polluting the atmosphere, but I've drank plenty of collected rainwater through a mesh filter and it's always been great.
>I know it's illegal there
Wait, it's illegal to collect fricking rainwater in burgerland? Fricking why?
How cucked can a country be?
It's illegal in certain areas (which is moronic as frick) but it isn't illegal for the entire country. Nothing federally illegal about it.
its illegal in areas BECAUSE
-UTILITIES ARE GOVERNMENT BACKED LOCAL MONOPOLIES
-the local governments and States, sometimes even Federal level monopolies are given extra special privileges' to guarantee every citizen HAS TO USE THEM
-States like Washington State and others oftentimes have more than sufficient rainwater, that all you'd have to do to have all the water to drink, clean, cook, etc is to collect it from your roof, do the bare minimum to filter it, and store it in a large cistern or water tank, sometimes circulate that water, and your home in a city, in the woods, etc will have all the water you need.
This is to ensure that the utility has enough customers to operate, allow easy tracing of any and all citizen's for taxation purposes, also allow to control where you are legally allowed to live/operate, and more.
Same for when septic systems get monopolized aka your cabin/home gets swallowed up by the local city/town/suburb and now you HAVE TO USE THEIR UTILITIES, PAY FOR THEIR INSTALLATION, OR LOSE YOUR HOME/LIVELYHOOD.
Also abused by the rich who wish to own your land and property for free/cheap when you don't want to sell to them.
Trust me, when your own mother actively bad mouths the farmers in your family all the time, records you trying to avoid all the pointed statements and shit she says, so that she can collect the literal payout being given by said people/groups.
Yes I know. I live in WA and know it's legal to collect rain water in most areas with certain exceptions. I also know butter doesn't go bad when it isn't refrigerated. I may be a moron for even engaging in discourse on this site we all come together on but I don't howl about things I know nothing about. I'm gonna smoke weed, drink beer and go to the grocery store later and purchase bread and butter...probably some chicken boobs too, since it's my day off. Good times ahead (at least for today). I might even play some Gankeridya.
Got my boobs, bread and butter. Here for the long haul, mes amis.
It's actually not that moronic in some cases. Sometimes, rainwater is just that essential to replenishing drainage basins. It's something that seems moronic at first glance, but isn't.
>How cucked can a country be?
can't grow any edible shit ont he front lawn but required by law to maintain an useless patch of artificially modified grass. That cucked
>law
*homeowner's association
Law of Karen maybe
You can grow veggies on your property, but there may be arbitrary rules saying you can't.
>law to maintain an useless patch
this doesn't exist, this is some bullshit homeowner's association crap.
i honestly don't even get how hoas are legal with all the shit they pull.
>the suburb moron thinks he lives in the US
drive past the nearest nature preserve and pick up some unincorporated property.
You WILL eat ze bugs
It's outrage bait based on a story of a guy who used to collect several massive drums worth of rainwater on his property (which is legal) but refused to do any kind of sanitation or cleanup so it attracted a huge swarm of mosquitoes that made it impossible for his neighbors to go outside.
>Fricking why?
because some areas are israeli enough that they want you to pay more money for utilities instead of being self sufficient
I've got riparian and mineral rights. Sucks to be a caligay.
This is wrong, it's completely legal in all 50 states, certain states will tax you based on rainfall on your property for a few reasons
>corporations collecting frick loads of water to resell
>mosquito control for morons who leave it untouched but in a huge drum
>prevent people who will never use the water from hoarding it and contributing to droughts
They do have restrictions in certain states however, but you can still collect it.
Yes. If you collect rainwater the sheriff will come shoot holes in your water barrel and then he'll shoot you.
>What would you be carrying a knife like this?
>Hunting.
>Don't be a wise guy! How many rainwater can you collect with a knife?
I'll fire on the sherrif and frick his daughter. Take hold of your life.
>zombie apocalypse
>tons of corpses and unmaintained toxic waste lying around spill into the groundwater
>toxic groundwater rises as toxic rainwater
Stay in school.
>scratches/lacerations/wholegame
>killing zombies by the tens
>character gets bored, thus worse at killing
>eat a cupcake
>character gets depressed
>eat a vegetable
>character gets depressed
>have to read 5 books, watch 400 hours of life and living, and build about 12 prototypes before you can build something as simple as a table
This game is dogshit, it will never be "finished"
BUT MY LE POOR LE DEVELOPERS GOT THEIR LAPTOP LE STOLEN AND LE COMMUNITY GOT LE ENTITLED AND LE MAD AT THEM
STOP BEING SO BIGOTED CHUD
You clearly haven't played the game, because if your character is outdoors fighting zombies you don't get bored.
>fight zombies
>get bored
Doesn't happen
boredom only leads to depression, which makes your character slower at doing tasks like mixing food into a stir fry, transferring inventory, sawing logs, etc.
only a veteran would get bored while fighting zombies, because panic eliminates boredom, and veterans don't get panicked by zombies. however, just being outside will alleviate a veteran's boredom, albeit slowly.
in short, that anon doesn't know what he's talking about.
>what are magazines/comicbooks/ice cream/ killing zombies/ alcohol / mods
>someone mentions america
>start seething and making up laws
go get the door pablo, its your mom's pill dealer
long blade melee is nearly objectively the best way to kill zombies except the exhaustion system forces you to use guns instead because they don't fatigue you.
Guns attract a lot of zombies.
The best ways to kill zombies are:
>Short blunt
Common and effective against small hordes
>Long blunt
Rarer than axes (except trash weapons like the broom), but you will keep the FASHION CLOTHING from the Zombies. Crowbars last very long and are theorectially renewable. You can use planks for training the skill.
>Axe
Strongest choice but destroys THE FASHION CLOTHING which absolutely sucks!!! Hand axe is very easy to get.
>guns attract lots of zombies
uh yeah I'm trying to clear out the area duh (yes I play with respawning disabled)
38 special only attracts on screen zombies, it's my go to pistol, especially with how common the ammo can get.
Just swap between melee and a sidearm.
after the recent multiplayer updates, the m9 also got a noise reduction, it's about 10 tiles more than the 38 special. i feel like 38 ammo became a little more rare now that zombies don't carry pistols sometimes, it was my absolutely favorite too.
Do you ever stop getting fricking scared of seeing the zombies youve killed fricking hundreds of yet? i refuse to play this shitfest untill the debuffs and shit arent moronic.
not unless you play modded/get a mod that gives you desentisized after killing enough zombies
(playing modded makes the game better but it's still shit)
to quote Ye.
"Frick the j"-wait no
"Thats fricking moronic."
yes, its time based, and after a month you lose panic so quickly that it doesn’t really affect you in combat
Bro don't worry they'll fix it in the next update
they won't, decade old moronic shit won't be fixed but you'll have loads of half assed mechanics no one asked for that no one will use coming out by 2024
don't forget all the hidden mechanics that will never be explained
Can you be self-sufficient in the game or do you eventually run out of food and die?
fishing
farming
trapping
foraging
all you need is fishing and you can eat forever. all other food collecting skills are annoying or not as nutritious as fish (ie. you will still starve to death via being underweight unless you eat 10 cabbages a day if you’re only farming)
Fishing requires twine or fishing lines which are finite.
Trapping requires finite rescources but uses them up much more slowly.
Farming is infinite.
Foraging is infinite? (I have read that you can run out of foragable food, but never experienced it.)
fishing actually only requires a spear, and you're set when you get good at fishing
Foraging is infinite if you don't mind eating mushrooms and berries for the rest of your life, which will be short due to constant weight loss.
>Fishing requires twine or fishing lines which are finite
Fishing nets are much more common for a reason but harder to transport compared to modern fishing poles.
>you will still starve to death via being underweight unless you eat 10 cabbages a day
top kek you would still starve to death eating only cabbage every day
you can't make a calorific surplus eating greens, you would rupture your stomach.
9.5 years in early access.
Early access didn't exist back then, idiot
neither did you
What mods do you have installed in this pic?
I played this for a few hours in 2017 and I died because I got rained on and going inside did nothing and I couldn't figure out how to make fire. I don't know if I'm moronic or the game was.
I died from eating a burnt steak once because I didn't think that would happen.
Didn't the dev have to remake the game twitch because his room flooded and his laptop was stolen?
This is a myth.
The spaghetti code of the game got so bad they had to restart development from scratch and they made up the stolen laptop story so thay redditors would protect them from the backslash.
Nah the laptop thing was real but massively overblown. IIRC they got the data back in less than a week.
Also his dog ate his laptop. Twice, during a thunderstorm that fried his other seven backup laptops simultaneously.
Incredible, but it happened.
Why play a game where it tells you from the outset that absolutely nothing you do will matter? Why play a game that has no actual endstate to work towards and you're just doing the equivalent of playing a GTA zombie mod with more tedium?
>Why play a game where it tells you from the outset that absolutely nothing you do will matter?
woah bro why live if we're going to die
hate to break it to you champ, but all those platinum trophies you collected don't matter either.
I have given up on waiting for B42 and starting a new playthrough now (been a year since I played).
On that note fricking moron devs STILL haven't added roaming hordes since they're too busy jerking off about muh new sound system or whatever the frick their current autism target is, I hope this mod does exactly that:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2983905789
>eat months old expired butter you found behind the couch
>also drink a little bit of fresh rainwater
>Die
Clearly, it must have been the rain water
where are the coomer mods?
There are plenty.
Who's on the wall? Looks familiar
i enjoy this game, but my friends play with all these custom gun mods. they spawn everywhere and make the game way too easy. same with custom armours.
Butter was literally invented to prevent milk from spoiling.
You're a moron OP, go eat your Margarine
Yeah ok buddy, I'm sure you have magic butter that doesn't spoil, and normal butter is """goyslop"""
I bought this shit like 3 months ago, never refrigerated it once.
Black person that shit is off
I'm eating it just fine without getting sick. Try not having a babby immune system.
it looks perfect. you literally never had real butter before
Are you moronic?
Please explain how it's "off".
I dont appriceate you
>t. never seen 100% butter before
go eat your seedoil lol
Is that melted plastic?
>radioactive yellow slop
Do dairy eaters seriously?
Yes, white people enjoy dairy products because we can eat them without shitting ourselves.
Imagine being a mammal who can't consume dairy
yes, your butter is either margarine or low quality butter that’s infused with canola oil to cut costs
so in a sense, you are paying for the slop version of butter
>thread turns into butter vs margarine
You gays will argue about anything.
No we won't you moron
It's all my fault. I apologize, anon.
Ganker is a butter board. margarineBlack folk need not reply.
Frick off buttard.
Shut the frick up homosexual, nobody here is arguing!
>LOL LOO I SWITCHED THE TEXT OF THE SHIRTS
kys skubcel
This thread has nothing to do with skub and there's no point bringing it up, because Ganker has been pro-skub for a fricking decade.
>LE Ganker HAS ALWAYS BEEN PROSKUB!!!
Frick off election tourists
Delusional
A toaster
>antiskub troony seething when confronted with reality
Butterchads just can't stop winning it seems lel
>Ganker - Butterlords
Is it worth going to Louisville for Barbells?
til you can leave butter on the counter and it won't go bad. my parents are pretty moronic tbh. they store dishes in the dishwasher and store pans in the oven. very third world of them.
Another victim freed from the clutches of the refrigerator israelite.
wait til you learn you can leave bread on the counter, too
Legit knew people who froze bread because they were afraid it would go bad.
Pure insanity, is it any wonder Western nations are full of moronic numales?
Freezing bread (the sliced factory kind) is legit though. But you should never freeze real bread.
That's true, but I mean, they were afraid it would go bad in a week and would keep it there.
Like, imagine every morning unfreezing the fricking bread to eat it.
>Like, imagine every morning unfreezing the fricking bread to eat it.
Yeah, imagine taking a piece or two and putting it in the toaster to unfreeze it. The horror.
It takes more work and fricks with the flavour, for something that will be consumed by the end of the week.
Just makes 0 sense to me
>Like, imagine every morning unfreezing the fricking bread to eat it.
I've done that for so goddamn long, real bread too, it was absolutely awful.
But you can't buy fresh bread at 4 in the morning.
I don't eat a lot of bread, so when there's a 2:1 offer I'll freeze the other loaf 🙂
It doesn't "go bad", but freezing it still preserves it at the cost of quality that you won't get anyways unless you eat it within a day or two. If i buy 5 bread rolls for 5 work days i keep them frozen and let one thaw during the night, it's not a great meal but if i left them in the open for the whole week they'd be hard as rocks by wednesday even in a closed container. And going for groceries every day just for fresh bread is out of the question.
have sex
With bread? Don't mind if I do!
If you were properly storing them in your "closed containrr" then they wouldn't for stale through oxidation, store it properly.
nah i used to sell bread at farmers markets. you wanna freeze bread if anything. but butter is a dairy product so It just intuitively made sense to refrigerate it constantly, like milk, cottage cheese, or yogurt.
How the frick do you unfreeze bread so it doesn't become brittle?
oven with a cup of water
oh no
mom found the unfreezing bread cup
>mom puts bread in the fridge
>doesn't understand that it fricking ruins the bread no matter how many times i tell her
my bread lasts way longer when i put it in the fridge.
Margarinecels seethe at butterchads!
>He hasn't been listening to the radio
I'll need a basic gestalt since I only use the tv for life and living.
tl;dr Before the military got overrun they were burning bodies. The virus is airborne and kills anyone who gets it. There are people who die from the virus even if they weren't bitten, just from being near zombies. Your character is immune to the airborne form of the virus, but not the blood/saliva transmission. The rain is full of the virus.
Wait, where did it says they were burning bodies?
The virus wouldn't survive cremation unless it's playing by...what was it, Night of the Living dead? The one where zombies are unkillable rules, which they aren't.
>Night of the Living Dead
You mean the one that takes place in Kentucky?
Wrong one, I meant this
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Return_of_the_Living_Dead
Yes, RotLD takes place in Louisville
As the original Anon who was asking thank you for clarity about the rain water. I know nothing about this game.
now THIS is an answer that makes sense, also traditional butter sterilizes most virus' and bacteria from the processed "milk" and drastically increases its shelf-life
but this also is disturbing because most clouds and thus nucleated rainwater forms MILES above the Earth
thus that viral spread is MASSIVE, AIRBORNE VIRUS IMMUNE PEOPLE are probable the only ones left alive, being most people don't have enough air filters and such to survive for days/months/years
gotta LOVE CRAPPY GOVERNMENT SCREWUPS,
hey, LETS BURN THE VIRUS' LAIDEN BODIES, but you know, AT TEMPS THAT DON'T DESTROY THE VIRUS and just makes it go into the STRATOSPHERE
-thus infecting large swaths of the land and people as the virus naturally falls back to the surface, via the natural movement of the wind, RAIN, and other things
Just be happy it isn't a incredible BAD END Zombie apocalypses via the indestructible CHEMICAL ZOMBIE FORMULA type
Personally I'm a believer that its 'in the meat'. If so, it would make more sense how it spread to other countries so easily
how would a virus survive cremation but not boiling?
There's a big difference between actual bonafide cremation in a cremation chamber vs burning a bunch of piled up bodies in a pit.
people dying by the truck loads, even the military guys are dying by the truck loads, last orders many of the military have are to "BURN THE BODIES" with only the untrained GRUNTS and "IMA COLLEGE STUDENT RTC GUYS, I KNOW THINGS"
no one knows and/or has access to the high temp burners and ovens/facilities needed to burn the bodies properly to prevent just spreading the infection into the air
ROTC guy THINKS they are using the government seized crematorium ovens correctly, and that their being so smart to lower the temps and increase the number of bodies to burn more bodies is BRILLIANT and they are GREAT OFFICERS(entire unit dies within hours/days and entire region gets zombified)
people actually eat margerine? doesn't it have like benzene and shit in it?
Yeah, I actually prefer the taste of it for things like ham sandwiches.
dude isn't margerine literally made from coal?
No it's made of margarine you stupid moron, it's in the name
>Implying he knows what that is
>Ganker can't even eat an entire box of magarine with a spoon
ngmi
>tfw your IQ is too high to enjoy a game without a goal
midwit detected
this thread in a nutshell
The reason I don't have a gf is because I can only love women who can beat me at video games and they don't exist, not because I jerk off to anime
Yeah I agree, the game has lots of strange bullshit. I love it anyway.
>troonyclysm: Dark Dilations Ahead
No thanks, I enjoy actual gameplay not excel spreadsheets
home
Shut the frick up moron we're discussing butter.
oh my bad sorry
Our daddy taught us not to be ashamed of off-topic thread.
>He didn't pick claustrophobic for free points
ngmi
i like how the most off topic threads on Ganker generally have the most interesting discussions.
>butter boss shows up
>"cholesterol to meet you"
look at that beautiful fricking stick of butter. no added oils.
>goes off when you leave it on the counter
butterbros....
stop spreading misinformation, margarine shill
>salted
But why?
For what purpose?
You can always add salt in but you can't take it out.
When do you ever need butter but don't need salt?
Baked goods, you cooklet.
Show me a single fricking recipe without salt.
The BUTTER is unsalted you add the salt seperately to the other dry ingredients.
So add less salt if you have salted butter and your recipe calls for salt. Salted butter is the superior spread because of its versatility and longer shelf life.
It's harder to guage the amount needed when the butter has salt since different brands/suppliers use didferent amount. That is why, in general, it is more likely that baked goods use unsalted butter so you can properly measure. I use salted butter in normal circumstances as well, but that doesn't refute my previous statement.
>versatility
Is less useful in recipes that don't need salt
>longer shelf life
This ain't the middle ages no more where we gotta keep our 10 sticks of harvested and churned butter preserved over the course of a year
Which is why you have unsalted butter for baking. salted butter is table butter for spreading on breads and boiled/steamed vegetables and potatoes.
No shit. That's what I said.
This anon knows
I've never played this game. That's the reaspn I asked you fricking dickhead.
If you're properly collecting rainwater you're using a proper contianer (hopefully). I see your point though.
Wrong question. You should be asking
>When do you not need salt in your butter?
And the answer is
>Always
When I want some bread and butter without salt on it.
When I want to eat that with some jam.
When I don't want to have to adjust the amount of salt I use because I'm using different amounts of butter.
When I don't want to keep in mind that shit I'm frying on butter now has to be salted differently compared to the shit I'm frying on oil.
When I want to fry something with butter, let's say minced meat, without drawing moisture out of it.
There is NO reason to have salt in butter. There used to be one, related to storing it long-term but it's irrelevant nowadays and it's not like modern butter is salted to the degree where it would matter.
You are just buying an inferior less versatile product for no reason.
Salted butter tastes better. I accept your concession.
>t. moron
I accept your concession.
You wish you could but you lost.
Better luck next time.
I accept your concession.
Butter butter butter joins the bowl
Milk goes rancid, so does butter.
Simple as.
see
quit repping Big Margarine
Butter is made from cream generally, not milk. Maybe half and half if you're desperate.
>install weeb mods
>dress up my waifu
>reach level 10 axe without a scratch
>quit
>repeat
This anon jerking it to low poly models lmao! he based
if you don't do pushups over an incapacitated female zombie, you haven't beat the game
Personally I just can't stop collecting panties.
Sup Vesper
>he doesnt have the mod that makes your character schlick in place of exercising
Link to mod?
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2857889604
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2870725947
should be one of these, dunno which one
Man I just wanted some animations, not whatever garbage this is.
>people ITT will eat butter they left on the counter for 3 weeks at a time
NGMI
>he doesn't have massive diarrhea on an hourly basis from eating expired butter
in case of a zombie apocylapse. how long would it take for the average anon before they'd break into a sex store?
i think you could probably find a zombie slag easier
i wouldn't stick my dick into a rotting corpse
you could still jack off to a 10/10 zombie ass way way easier than some cheap porn store shit
infection occurs via BITES, SALIVA, BLOOD, veganaL/ANAL FLUIDS
-sorry, but the average newbie on this site doesn't KNOW what a condom EVEN IS, let alone HOW TO USE ONE, or have the courage to buy, steal a condom
near 100% newbie kill ratio with the right, SMEXY ZOMBIE LADY/MAN coming through
though I CAN see all those cellphone/computer anon's accidentally deleting/losing their porn folders and getting desperate enough to travel miles to get some porn, or visit the local gas station to pick at the left over magazine isles
ok empress
Sex store in my city is across the street grom our big grocery. Day 1 when bullets are flying at the grocery, I'll be securing the strip mall with the weed dispensery and sex shop. Whoever wins that war is gonna be bored and horny in a few days, and I'll be in a good position to make trades.
they'll just shoot your face and take your dildos
I'd like to see them climb my wall of frick machines to get to me. My defenses will be elaborate enough by then that it won't be worth the lead.
The butter that lasts for a long time is CLARIFIED butter.
Basically you heat up your butter until it becomes liquid and let it sit until a bunch of gunk sinks to the bottom.
Then you pour the liquid butter into a recipient leaving the gunk behind.
Then you let the clean butter cool down and solidify.
That's clarified butter and it will basically last forever because bacteria can't live in such concentrated fat.
thanks for clarifying that for me, anon
Heh
This false. Clarified butter does in fact last longer than the regular kind but it's still okay to store non clarified butter outside of the fridge.
Hundreds of years ago, people used clarified butter to preserve spiced fish and meats in pots precisely because non clarified butter would go bad.
Using butter to cure things that would normally go bad is different than having non clarified butter standing on it's own.
So what do they do with the leftover gunk? Make margarine out of it? Lol
Look at this delicious clarified butter.
That thumbnail looks like he's about to eat earwax
>That's clarified butter and it will basically last forever because bacteria can't live in such concentrated fat.
Is that why I'm so healthy
Clarified butter basically last indefinitely but even regular butter will last a long time because the milk solids that go rancid make up a very small part of the butter compared to most other dairy products, so even if it starts going bad its probably still won't make you sick if you eat it.
How is the weapon customization and sound design for zomboid? It looks fun but I don't want to play it if it sounds like shit.
it's not bad, but you're gonna want the 'britas' weapon mod
Grab a mod called brita weapons pack and you're golden.
It's pretty bad, there's no proper ballistic system you aim at zombos and the game decides whether you hit them with RNG and your skills. Base weapon selection is pretty barebones.
There's a mod that adds proper ballistics but it's OP. Brita's Weapon Pack is okay but if you're autistic like me you'll have to check the option that disables any item produced after 1992 (the year the game takes place). Personally I don't like modern plastic tacticool shit so it's perfect for me.
What's the proper ballistics mod called?
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2895102994&searchtext=advanced+trajectory
Awesome. Thanks anon. Does it work with Brita?
should work with every gun mod
disregard the other two, brita's mod is bloat shit that add hundreds of guns with the exact same stats and the game still limits you to 4 attachments max.
vanilla guns suck but firearms b41 rebalances them and add a few guns to fill every role you can think of.
guns in zomboid are the most basic shit ever.
these "ultra realistic" survival games are always so wrong about real life its hilarious
the dude who won the survive in the frozen arctic challenge just straight up was drinking from the river with no issues every day lol. his gut bacteria was conditioned for it, he just went into hibernation mode and slept most the time, while everyone else just struggled in the snow trying to find scraps that never fed more than the energy it took to get
was hilarious, these devs would have that guy dying in under a day if they tried that in their games
>these "ultra realistic" survival games are always so wrong about real life its hilarious
This.
>oh no, i didn't eat in six hours. i'm starving
You fricking amerimutts do realize that human beings aren't meant to constantly stuff their face, and that's why you're so fricking diabetic? Humans beings can go two days without drinking, and two weeks without eating. And that's with constant exercise.
god you are so moronic. go fast for 3 days and tell me how you feel.
those 4 rich morons trapped in the submarine, i posted "they'll die of oxygen deprivation before wanting to cannibalize each other" and morons jumped down my throat that hunger pain is too significant to write off like that. frick this moron contrarian site.
>go fast for 3 days and tell me how you feel.
When i was in the military, the food was so shit i didn't eat for a week. And i was running around 16 hours a day with 80 kilos of equipment strapped to me.
wow i guess the military doesn't even need to set up canteens or supply MREs to troopsif they got guys like you, anon!
They do, because i lost 30kg of weight doing that. The point is i didn't need to eat.
Sounds like you were a fat frick and that's why food wasn't necessary for you.
Did you also graduate top of your class in the Navy Seals?
Were you taking "military grade" amphetamines?
lmao, a 3 day fast just drinking water is actually very healthy, just how fricking fat are you
ok, go do it big boy
I do it atleast 4 times a year, after the first day I feel fricking fantastic
>go fast for 3 days and tell me how you feel
It feels fine. Nothing special.
You don't really feel hungry unless you start thinking about food.
I eat a proper, actual meal every 4-5 hours and I weigh about 50kgs. Carbs and all that. Just normal food. Had some ice cream for dessert on the last meal.
>been eating everyday at 9 AM and 4 PM for the last 5 years
>thinking about just doing the 4 PM meal every other day
I only do this out of time conservation due to eating taking up so much time (shopping, cooking, cleaning, hygiene, etc). I do very light excercise everyday but otherwise am sedentary. Any negative consequences to moving to 1.5 meals a day?
If you aren't using the calories you don't need them. Just eat a balanced diet and get your vitamins and minerals.
>Just eat a balanced diet and get your vitamins and minerals.
Well, I'm still alive without any complications after 5 years of this, so I guess I am doing well enough. I suppose I can give it a try, thanks.
As long as you're not just eating fast food and actually eat fruits and veggies you'll be fine. Cheers, anon.
>and two weeks without eating
I tried 40 days fasting in 2019 but only made it to day 27. Eye opening experience would recommend.
>man my brain was shutting down from the complete lack of nutrients and i was feelin some real deep shit. would recommend.
no thanks man
>the dude who won the survive in the frozen arctic challenge just straight up was drinking from the river with no issues every day lol
I don't know who are you talking about, but "raw" water can be very safe to drink in the North as low temperatures and scarce vegetation make it difficult for shit to breed in it.
t. used to live in the middle of nowhere in the tundra
yeah okay random guy on the internet. ill take your word over world renown survivalists who live in the arctic for 90+ days without supplies
What are you even talking about?
it sounds like he knows what he's talking about compared to you
he was... agreeing with you? reinforcing your point? why are you so hostile?
because he wants the water in kentucky to be drinkable too
I don't take recommendations from mass-reply troons.
Have you tried getting better at the game?
Drink water from the river if you are a turbo shitter otherwise.
cumming on spiffo's paws
did they add npcs? i dont want to be alone
t. pirate scumbag who doesnt has friends
NPCs never ever.
They've been trying to add animals for like a year.
>11 years later
>11 years later
>game exists
>has tons of content
meanwhile others release nothing or abandon their ea project after 1-2 years
how much has valheim done for their game? almost nothing.
stop shitting on actual nice devs you fricking zoomer homosexual. go suck some dicks if you feel the need to be a homosexual, but dont come here to post your invalid opinions about games.
I never posted an opinion, what are you so mad about?
sorry can't control which threads my agi decides to post in...
I feel like Zombie hordes not walking through your cell while you're in it is a huge problem with the game becoming too easy
Once you've cleared the area around your base and have a car, you're set for life. Turning up the difficulty and playing with sprinters only makes resource runs more threatening.
I want the option to make zombies a threat to my base and risk losing it if my defenses and 3000 shotgun shells aren't enough.
I think that weird system is for optimisation sake. iirc there was a bug where you could actually spawn the full population into the edge of the forest and it caused FPS to tank hard
It is an optimization thing I'm pretty certain. I don't think calculating hordes walking around in real-time constantly is a good idea, but I don't think adding a chance for a group to decide to walk through your cell is unreasonable either.
yeah it's really bizarre that they just stop at the peripherals of your cell. the only thing that seems to get migrating zombies into your area is the helicopter.
it just seems flat out broken, and it's known among the playerbase, but it's not getting fixed. that's the indie stone development team for you.
Finding out that buildings only spawn zombies once you look in a window or open a door is bullshit, I can't believe how fricked a lot of the zombie mechanics are.
Thankfully there is a mod for this one
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2961467351
>devs keep adding autistic details nobody fricking cares about like growth rate of your butthole hair in function of atmospheric pressure
>they didn't even get this right despite the fact that it's crucial because any person playing a zombie "simulator" is going to try to lure out zombies of buildings to not get fricking bitten in the ass
To be fair, being able to calculate your rate of ass hair growth by atmospheric pressure is extremely important for roleplaying. Without that you often run into immersion breaking scenarios every time you take off your pants to wash them.
>any person playing a zombie "simulator" is going to try to lure out zombies of buildings
This sort of thing is what ruined the game for me; you can't apply actual common sense in a large number of situations because the game runs off a combination of insane britabong logic and spaghetti code.
Completely agree, it's embarassing the game doesn't have moving hordes when it's pretty much included in any zombie media. Imagine coming across hundreds of zombies and having to hide in a house praying they haven't spotted you.
Try this mod:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2983905789&searchtext=wandering
Whale's Cataclysm was better than CDDA.
who's whale?
the guy who made cataclysm
>leading the horde to your hideout
Get it together sussan.
You can actually drink from a tainted water source once as long as you wait for the sickness stat to subside before doing it again.
Ive literally never had butter actually gone so bad its not fit for human consumption, it can easily attract some less pleasant odors if left at room temperature or open close to something else in the fridge, but Ive never had that "yeah shit will make me sick if I eat it" like raw chicken or something. I've even eaten some butter with mold on it and been fine.
it's that american garbage land-o-lake type butters that go bad, because that shit isn't even butter its refined waste-oils. european style yellow butter doesn't need to be refrigerated.
>finish cooking
>remove hot pan
>need to put a hint of butter in food
>grab butter
>put butter on hotplate
>turn around to grab a knife in counter
>come back
>butter is half melted and there's liquid butter everywhere
That's why you clean as you go while cooking so you have plenty of space Anon.
>hotplate
what's that?
that heating thing chemists use
Why would you use that for cooking?
Why would you put butter on it?
I'm confused.
Euroserfs aren't allowed enough space in their assigned apartment for a stove
it's what they yell at the mexican restaurant when they're coming through a crowd
>eat months old expired butter you found behind the couch
It's called cheese bruv
Listen I know that sterilizing water is better for you than not sterilizing it, but are you actually fricking telling me that running river water has an infection rate of higher than 0.01%? How the frick would anything survive otherwise?
humans back then had superior gut antibodies because they would drink it every day, we fluoride sippers would become very upset to drink river water.
>meanwhile every animals taking a shit upstream
Same reason gringo tourists get sick drinking Mexican tap water, but Mexicans don't. Your gut flora is highly sensitive since you've been drinking nothing but sterile, highly filtered/treated water for your entire life. Going from 0-100 and drinking all the bacteria in river water will give you dysentery and you'll shit yourself to death. Animals are fine with it because they drink it all the time. Primitive people were fine with it because they had a much higher tolerance for randomly catching diseases and intestinal parasites. Modern plumbing is great in general but there are some very specific tradeoffs.
this game has a stupid amount of zombies
Louisville alone has something like 55,000 on normal settings.
jesus christ
is it really that hard to have each bed = 1 zombie
game would have like 5000 zombies
that'd probably be a good thing, at least for immersion
I'd kill all 5,000 in a month or less, it wouldn't be much fun.
I don't think I've ever had butter go bad on me, though I do keep it in a covered butter dish when it's outside the fridge. A stick fresh from the fridge should last a couple weeks at least on the counter unless you're living in a warm, super humid area or something.
Or maybe I'm taking for granted that salted butter lasts a while longer than unsalted.
a lot of anons here are buying vegatable oil with butter flavoring, and the concept of leaving butter out is completely bonkers to them
Isn't margarine supposed to stay... "unspoiled" for longer?
I know lard keeps pretty well, but never risked with butter. At most I just leave it overnight so I can use it for breakfast.
margarine is recommended by all brands to be kept refrigerated, because it melts into greasy slop
not sure how long is lasts in the fridge, i don't like buying it
You'd be hard pressed to spoil butter in under a week unless there's some other factor going on, like fricked up humidity or something. You have a covered butter dish, right?
>You have a covered butter dish, right?
Even if we have it, we never use it, we just pull it out the fridge some time before we use it.
You wouldn't have to be waiting for it to soften (until you use it up and have to pull out a new stick) if you just kept the "active" stick on the counter in a covered dish.
Does margarine go bad faster than butter? I'd think it would last longer. Lord knows the crisco I just keep in the cabinet seems to last forever.
I'm really wondering if this is all just people leaving unsalted butter out totally uncovered.
>Two years of no updates.
Anon haven't you heard? Since like 2 years ago all rainwater is toxic. In the entire damned world. There isn't a single spot where the rain isn't toxic anymore.
Shit like this is why we should kill politicians, journalists, billionaires and bankers every so often.
the game takes place in the 90s, though
*thoughever
funny cat
>eat an entire peanut butter jar in-game
>character goes from fully sasiated to slighly hungry in a few hours
>meanwhile IRL, eat an entire peanut butter jar (don't ask), felt like throwing up for a few hours after and didn't eat for the rest of the day
Why are survival games all like this ?
chunky or smooth peanut butter?
Chunky
>anon complains that eating mechanics aren't 1:1 with real life
>meanwhile anon also complains about ass hair growth physics in relation to ambient temperature and how it's taking away dev time from just making a better zombie game
The hunger system is ass, they need to just use calories for hunger since it's already tracked in game anyways.
>under 2000 lose weight
>over 2800 gain weight
>need at least 1500 per day to not start starving
>hey need to just use calories for hunger since it's already tracked in game anyways.
I can easily eat 2000 calories of sweets and be hungry, 2000 calories worth of actual food on the other hand will satiate me.
It really is weird. It seems like a survival game where you had to eat less would be popular with most people but I guess most devs don't know how else to create diffuclty.
Hunger incentivizes activity. If you had no reason to eat or drink you wouldn't want to explore as much for potential resources.
The ones that always get me:
>Can't run around barefoot on asphalt without your feet bleeding you to death in mere minutes
>Can't create a pole and string to fish without reading a magazine
I adore zomboid, but you can tell the creators led weird sheltered lives
The UK influence on the houses is hilarious
>walk into a 1 room 1 bathroom house
>mini fridge and no stove
>there's an entire street like this
Yeah and the overall lack of guns in rural Kentucky. Every truck should have a hunting shotgun inside it. Every house even in suburbs should have minimum 3 handguns. Are they devs euros?
they're anti-guns
It's balancing, get Brita's and you can see how easy guns make the game.
>find a Minigun in Louieville
>clear the Mall on Insane pop in less than a day
yeah and that's fun. beats starting up a siren and a campfire and watching them burn to death like other "hardcore" players do it.
miniguns aren't really the problem, it's moreso when you get silencers for your weapons
Matter of balancing, that's why the police stations usually have a couple 9s or some brokedick dur rifle and ammo is a pain in the ass to find.
>Are they devs euros?
Kinda, mostly Canadians.
If it was a hot summer day, walking bare feet on asphalt could at the very least burn your feet and the blisters could start to bleed.
Is the entire bottom of your foot not callused anon? I dare you to go outside every now and then. Stretch your legs. I grew up in the country running barefoot through the woods on a daily. Now that I live in the city I don't feel shit when I walk on pussy ass asphalt.
>drink a handfull of rainwater on the ground
>feel sick for a bit but recover
>drink a bottle of collected groundwater/riverwater
>die from bacterial infection
You're just not doing it right
what a great game
>realistic zombie survival simulator
>you can just make infinite wooden bridges without support from building to building
hm
>write an essay to pick up an item
no thanks
get some basic UI and controls down first, now that DF did it you have no excuse
cut the troonyshit and make your game playable first
Let me know you are underage without telling me you are underage.
Only non-zoomers can handle roguelikes.
>muh zoomer
It's 2023 not 1983 to unironically shill games that look like they were made for the commodore 64
CDDA
Is AmbigiousAmphibian /ourguy/?
he tries way too hard to be funny
so yes
What XP multiplier should I go with to avoid moronic level of grind
3x is my go-to for MP, its not crazy fast but it's not diassemble every single radio in Louieville for 3 electrician slow.
Forever chemicals in the atmosphere could make rainwater Toxic.
I remember some neighbour of mine playing this and shilling it hard. Real autistic fellow, I would host a Minecraft server, he'd join, and he'd get ultra-assblasted if I got anywhere near his builds or try to interact with him. Must've also eaten like shit because he somehow had cavities in his fingernails, like straight-up just fricking caves in them, to this day I've seen nothing like it. Anyway, that guy was a total drag.
I think about that fellow a lot when seeing this game, because that cave troll must have doubled in age by now, yet this game still superficially looks and plays the exact fricking same despite being in development for that entire time.
Anyway I just felt like sharing this anecdote.
that guy is me. how could you, andrew. you were my only friend.
Is there vehicle costumization?
How are the mods?
Are there dinosaur mods?
Fantasy mod?
Futuristic mods?
I am getting bored of DDA so I am looking for the next thing. Or I may go back to rimworld
After 1-2 ingame weeks this game gets so stale and grindy
game isn't perfect but I enjoy it a lot
how'd he croak, anon
clearing the Louisville main police station
went up a flight of stairs and there were 5 right at the top. got bit on the neck. ran to a small room to bandage, was too late anyway.
died, ultimately, because the game doesn't make the next level of the stairs visible from halfway up them. alas
I thought people did this because it would be easier to kill zombies with fire but I later realized it's easier because you can get it done way more quickly since you just drive and have a firy horde behind you.
better vid
Based. I don't know the controls or want to learn them though. Make the game third person in a 3D plain and make it work on controller and I'll check it out.
Butter, you say?
>Solidifies my argument by repeating my criticism with no rebuttal
>Will post some moronic Xjack to try and deflect
I know this website has always been shit but you'll always be stuck in the sewers.
>amerilards discussing butter going bad out of the fridge
Are we talking about real butter or burgerian "I can't believe it is not butter!" butter?
Because real butter is not even kept in the fridge, LMAO
Fact is that the anglosphere has 0% right to talk about food at all
>finally get to the mall in LV
>after going to the main PD to find there was no ammo
>break into the gunstore in the mall
>it's all knives and .22s
This shit is fricking stupid.
what's even the point of finding loot, without something interesting as a lategame.
Mostly killing massive hordes of zombies that show up with horde night mods.
>Finally get a decent base setup with my friends
>Plenty of resources
>The very next day a huge fire inexplicably sweeps through the neighbourhood and despite our best attempts to douse it burns down the entire house
>Get in my car and drive us all to the mall to get killed
>Never play again
It was one of your friends
my favourite way to play is to set a time period, like 3 weeks, to get from a spawnpoint in Rosewood or Riverside, to the Louisville bridge and if i make it in that time, I win and i start a new game.
I prefer the idea of a localized zombie outbreak to the world ending thing anyway
>still on Early Access after 10+ years
why are you shilling this literal vaporware?
if you dont own a butter bell i feel bad for you anon, nothing better than smooth warm butter to spread on your morning toast instead of that refrigerated block of ice that you tear your toast to pieces trying to spread
What kind of European uses butter? Just use mayo
>Not piping the rain water through your filter sink to get fresh clean water to drink.
>Not boiling your water with a pot and a stove/oven/microwave
Are you actually moronic?
>I know this website has always been shit but you'll always be stuck in the sewers.
>See zomboid thread
>Devolves into seething morons posting wojaks cause they don't have arguments.
The death of the various rage/etc faces and the proliferation of wojaks has been a detriment to this site and internet culture as a whole.
(OP)
To make think more interesting for me, I like to give me objectives
Like use the debug mode and gave me a car, then broke the car until is totally destroyed and try to fix it
Other times I like to play as a "God", making favors in exchange for other thing, like fixing a car in exchange for all your weapons or equipment