So the legendary demi God who brought down dragons just got quietly and easily killed without a peep? No one in the capital heard anything until after??
Elden Ring
So the legendary demi God who brought down dragons just got quietly and easily killed without a peep? No one in the capital heard anything until after??
You the player are a single murderhobo and you can also kill said demi god
Gods aren't invincible in ER, or Souls games in general.
I have a theory that it was assisted suicide, Godwyn wanted to die for some reason and confided in his half sister Ranni, who helped him with his wishes.
Ranni did it solely to free herself from the influence of the two fingers, so she could reject them without any blowback, she's not some loving little sister you dumb frick
So based on what Ranni did, we assume that being an Empyrean means the Greater Will has some level of contact with you?, I think? So she slew her body to rid that contact? But the Greater Will fricked off during The Shattering, it was so removed from everything in the land that its vassal, elden beast was slain and order usurped without a peep from the fingers the whole time and afterwards, its implied that Miquella, who's also an Empyrean, is also extremely opposed to outer gods, sharing Rannis outlook, he even begins work on the haligtree, a DIRECT AFFRONT to the Erdtree and by extension the established order (Greater Will), he does all this despite being in his own body, did he just reject power the Greater Will had over him? Did him being an Empyrean mean nothing in regards to his subservience to the GW? it seemed so, with Malenia it can be argued that she was aligned with the rot outer god from birth, so maybe that weakened any influence GW had over her, but Miquella had no possible takers other than GW, yet he told it to frick off anyway, so then with all this I have to ask, why did Ranni do the ritual of slaying her body and godwyns soul, just to remove her title as Empyrean? Or remove some measure of power GW had over her? Even though we're told other Empyreans simply rejected it and the GW even abandoned the lands between post shattering, We're not shown any proper evidence that being an Empyrean means instant control from GW, was her act just a show of solidarity? Did Ranni kill demi gods, her half brother, start the death blight plaguing the lands, just for a statement? Out of extreme hate for the GW? Seriously asking here. Call me moronic if I'm missing something, because if that's the case then Ranni is a fricking weirdo, what the frick man
youre kind of moronic, ranni was right in what she did anyway, she never had a choice it was her lashing out
Ranni killed her body because she would not have been able to kill the two fingers assigned to her otherwise. Miquella may have been opposed to the GW, but he didnt outright threaten to murder his two finger handlers. He was also planning some kind of eclipse or whatever to defeat the GW?? Basically they had different methods. Ranni's was more direct and in the end actually worked in freeing everyone from their infulence. Miquella's plan didnt work because he got kidnapped by mogh and raped into a coma
Miquella is lawful good
Ranni is chaotic good
>Ranni killed her body because she would not have been able to kill the two fingers assigned to her otherwise.
what do you base this on? If Miquella could do all that as he was why couldn't Ranni take it further with lethal intent? Are you assuming the GW is like "okay I'll let you do all this and that but not that" for some reason? Even though it's all a clear attack on the GWs order anyway? There's no actual answer I feel, ranni just did a fricked up thing then leaves the world ignoring the death blight spreading throughout the land, the plague she had a main part in causing
She literally says she would not have been able to do what she did had she not cast away her body
Death blight also isn't as big of a problem as you think it is and it will literally be solved once The Age of Stars begins
Here's why
>current order is that everything lives forever
>marika removed the rune of death so everyone is immortal
>this is a problem because people live forever in depraved and fricked up states
>the deathblight that ranni caused is a problem becuase people don't actually die, they live in death
>there's several different forms of death where people are dead but still alive anyways, it's not like deathblight is unique
>ranni removes the elden ring/golden order/greater will, etc, all from the earth and leaves people to their own devices
>people are no longer immortal
>theyve returned to a system where there is a natural cycle of life and death without immortality fricking everything up long term
>>b-but now people are le dying!!
>good. It's natural. People should be living and dying. They can fix the world in this cycle
>>b-but the deathblight!!
>just another thing to avoid, like aids, or falling down a flight of stairs, or getting stabbed to death by immigrants from the land of reeds
>it's not a problem anymore because the whole idea of deathblight is that you're still alive while it kills you constantly. Guess what? With the ER removed, you won't be alive when it kills you, you die, which is fine
No matter which way you slice it, Ranni did the right thing in the longrun
A quick correction, by everyone is immortal, I mean no one dies by natural cauaes, unless they're killed, and when they are they get reincarnated through the erdtree. Dont mistake what I said for me saying every shitter mob is somehow a god or whatever. I mean that they'll live for thousands of years and won't die from old age or anything unless something directly kills them, like murder, or a plague, or rot, or fall damage
>She literally says she would not have been able to do what she did had she not cast away her body
No she doesn't, unless I'm mistaken Miniature Ranni says "I slew my body and casted it away, I would not be controlled by that (fingers) thing", this could mean anything other than the definite "I couldn't lift a finger against them until etc", it sounds like she just held deep hatred for the GWs connection to her via empyrean flesh, she did it all as a massive show of rebellion, we have ZERO concrete reason to believe being an Empyrean means your will is completely dominated by the two fingers, Marika isn't an example, her situation is a million times more complex than just empyrean flesh.
>deathblight is fixed
That's a good take but that still leaves the issues of worm faces spreading, they aren't some natural fauna, they spread their own habitat, they somehow got up to farum azula, so it's not a stretch to think they can overtime spread throughout the lands if left unchecked. People can die and what not but the by-products of death blight still persist, they'll just continue vomiting all over roots and earth. Plus even with the tree burning you can still go down to the depths and see godwyns super aid self continue to spread, it's going to spread regardless, there are roots all over the lands between and it doesn't need Marikas order to continue infecting the preset roots running along. Then there's formless mother shit still fricking around in caelid and the three fingers just sitting below waiting as it's followers beckon people. The lands isn't that much better off in Rannis ending, I just can't see it as a proper fix in any sort of way other than ridding perpetual life, GW and non-outer God influence for good
And just clarifying, maybe you're right about Ranni being shackled down until she switched bodies, but that's a big maybe, there's no evidence supporting it, yet there's evidence for empyreans simply rejecting GW
>ignoring the death blight spreading throughout the land, the plague she had a main part in causing
The erdtree, including godwyn's corpse, burns completely in her ending. So no more deathblight barring some easy to deal with stuff like crabs.
Is there any indication Godwyn is a nice guy beyond being another demigod drone for the golden order? The golden order is shown to pretty clearly suck and is ultimately tied to the whims of the greater will. If Godwyn is just another cog in the machine, then he'd represent what Ranni opposes. In that sense I don't know why she would care to spare him
All we know about Godwyn character wise is from how he dealt with the dragons after they were beaten. He beat the shit out of fortissax, but instead of killing him he befriended him and brought dragons into the fold. You could take this in a lot of ways, maybe Godwyn just wanted to empower the Golden Order even more so he brought over dragons to start that golden order dragon cult and teach incantations etc, maybe Godwyn just wanted the end of conflict and didn't want to bother fighting any longer, or maybe he was actually an amicable person who genuinely reached out to forge a friendship, considering the fact that even when Godwyn was soul killed and was a husk of death, Fortissax willingly threw himself at Godwyns side trying to help (fix? stall?) Godwyns suffering through death blight, even to the point where fortissax eventually succumbed to it himself. Considering all that, maybe there was some real warmth in godwyns character, to inspire bonds from even enemies who were attacking and killing your city.
We could assume Godwyn was a greater will drone but he was really involved with dragons and crucibles as well, it couldn't be that cut and dry, he seemed like someone who could talk and be approached judging by his lore.
Despite Marika's plotting against the GW it seems she still loved her son even if he seemed to be a blind believer.
>One grim night in the depths of winter, a flock of unknown assassins stole across the Lands Between.
In a coetaneous attack, this foul covenant snuffed out the lives of many of the God-Queen’s kin throughout the empire, too numerous and too scattered for her godly protection to save.
>The assassins’ targets were multifold, but none was as devastating a loss to the Eternal Queen as that of Godwyn the Golden. After his death, the Elden Ring was somehow shattered, and the order of the world broke with it.
z.be character that only exists in the item description on my boots
>die 5,000 years ago
>nothing happens
>soulsgays lose their minds
Do you even play the game? Those assassins are something else. Tiche can single handedly melt Maliketh by herself. Look at your image, 7 assassins vs 1 demigod, not even a fair fight.
But he was buffed with each extra assassin they summoned, he shouldve exploded the entire area at least
Tiche can melt my heart
she has no face anon
Those assassins are fricking bullshit. One of them should go become Elden Lord
Marika was in on it Real ones know.
300+ posts of pretending there's a coherent story in this piece of shit
>implying there's a story
It's just an excuse to make every boss impossible to beat without cheesing
how did you cheese soldier of godrick??
backstap
I had to come back later after levelling a bit
The Black Knives are all supposed to be invisible 24/7 with their magic armor and whatnot. If you recall fighting any of the invisible ones now imagine fighting like 15 of them all at once, not even you would survive that ambush.
Did you ever hear the Tragedy of Godwyn the Golden?
when are we getting the DLC bros
DLC trailer is releasing on 25th next Sunday or 1/2 days around that. ONE HUNDRED percent, everyone's agreed on this since it wasn't at the game awards
why? where does your confidence come from?
when are we getting an ocean aligned ending??
Anyone who claims the Black Knives were sent by Marika is a blind deaf moron.
But how did ranni get the rune, why are the assassin's numen, why is one guarding malenias bad chamber
Cut content or mistranslation take your puc
dumb fricking b***h, ranni has connects, why assume she needs marikas approval to steal the rune? She's FRICKING RANNI!!, and the assassin's being marikas race means nothing, the one in leyndell is likely trying to assassinate Marika/more demi gods
It probably never occurred to him to be prepared to be "assassinated" because as far as he knew, he couldn't truly completely die in the normal sense. Also, the rune of death essence was probably painful and caused injury to his kind, as we experience in the game from blackflame and death rune enemies and bosses. I don't think there was an issue with anyone "hearing" anything because that whole night consisted of tons of chaos from killing a bunch of demigods. Godwyn was just the first. If I understand everything correctly, which I might not
he's fine
Games are designed to be vague and unclear in order to stimulate the player's curiosity. The answer could be anything. You better not waste time arguing over things that have no answer.
Hope the DLC will have the Five Fingers.
I hope it has The One Great