i would say black knives killed them for these reasons
1. bandai site mentions multiple targets that night. though the site may not be canon, there are a lot of assassins spread across the map
2. there is much emphasis on godwyn being the *first* of the demigods to die. not only does that imply others died but why would people say he's the first if the mausoleums were already there?
3. the demigods are explicitly soulless. a unique thing about destined death is destruction of the soul. so it seems very likely they killed them too
it's not clear that gideon or vyke had great runes. as having two is not a prerequisite to becoming elden lord.
after you get two, enia says she's only ever seen two together once before (which means there is no way both of them had two). enia then says the fingers expect a lot from you, and from gideon and the others whom she sees as your equal
Not even, just paid promotion and spam
It's total shit, no one will remember it in a year, it's such a worthless trashheap that some snoy moviegame is gonna blow it out of the water come years end and sweep every award show
FROM is a dead company and no amount of fake sales data and bribed reviews will save them, they're just trying to get bought out to line execs pockets before they jump ship
My own TAKE on the world of Elden Ring based on what I know.
-The Crucible is the true source of power in this land. Originally it had a chaos form like a living version of T-1000. It is an avatar of raw potential.
-The Crucible knights were ardent supporters and even retain arms, armor, skills from this time.
-During this more ancient time, there were many terrestrial gods, giants, and dragons.
-The Godskins and Black flame developed as human main armament against many of these foes.
-divine towers were erected at specific Leylines. Conduits of Crucible power.
>exacts on chronological order gets wonky here, but ultimately knowing the sequence is supplemental autism and not consequential to current events
-Nokron got too wienery and used magic to accidentally let outer gods know where planet is. >same thing happened in WoW when night elves drew attention of burning legion by using power of well of eternity.
-outer gods attracted to its power and began landing
Humans interpret this as divine. >"muh greater will is upset" >"muh greater will sent the erdtree"
-The Elden Beast (outer god) lands and begins absorbing/drawing off power of the Crucible.
-pops out of central tower of divinity to basically supplant it.
-Elden beast uses power of Crucible to take form of tree.
-tree does not actually grant or create life. >this is evident by "dead" trees found in calied and altus
-It actually absorbs and draws upon world around it and recycles it.
-the trees are parasites
-the elden beast is the central energy parasite.
-marika granted power of elden ring.
-comes to realize she is a puppet
-orchestrates a grand scheme so convoluted that even an omniscient creature could not stop.
-she failed, but her strike left a crack and opening that could be exploited to dispose the Elden Beast and shake free from the unending stagnation and decay that has befallen the Land Between.
>It is said that long ago, the Greater Will sent a golden star bearing a beast into the Lands Between, which would later become the Elden Ring. >Golden amber contains the remnants of ancient life, and houses its vitality, >The Dragonlord whose seat lies at the heart of the storm beyond time is said to have been Elden Lord in the age before the Erdtree. >Lay bare the secrets of life which course the Elden Ring. > When the Elden Ring was shattered, these seeds flew from the Erdtree, scattering across the various lands, as if life itself knew that its end has come.
It's all the same tree, and the elden ring has always been a part of it. ever since the ring came down to TLB and created life. Old erdtree incantations are are called crucible incantations. The oldest erdtree incantation is elden stars.
>This is a manifestation of the Erdtree's primal vital energies—an aspect of the primordial crucible, where all life was once blended together.
Another place where life is attributed to the greater will:
[310053040] All that there is came from the One Great.
[310053050] Then came fractures, and births, and souls.
[310053060] But the Greater Will made a mistake.
[310053070] Torment, despair, affliction. Every sin, every curse.
[310053080] Every one, born of the mistake.
[310053090] And so, what was borrowed must be returned.
[310053100] Melt it all away, with the yellow chaos flame.
[310053110] Until all is One again
Here "One Great" is likely referring to "all life blended together", which all living things fractured off from
The mistake that pretty much all of Ganker makes in understanding "lore".
Is that even the lore suffers "unreliable narrator" effect.
Cast the below into action/intent instead. >It is said that long ago, the Greater Will sent a golden star bearing a beast into the Lands Between, which would later become the Elden Ring.
A sentient creature landed. Intent = tbd >Golden amber contains the remnants of ancient life, and houses its vitality
The amber is basically a giant seed. Similar to how scientists think comets containing enzymes and/or microbes may have helped to seed Earth during primordial conditions. >The Dragonlord whose seat lies at the heart of the storm beyond time is said to have been Elden Lord in the age before the Erdtree
Dragons were most powerful. >Lay bare the secrets of life which course the Elden Ring. > When the Elden Ring was shattered, these seeds flew from the Erdtree, scattering across the various lands, as if life itself knew that its end has come.
Defense reaction of the tree was to send out more energy draining parasites. Spawn more future tree avatars.
without the tree you wander around as a ghost after death. you need the tree to die properly, and return to the origin of all life. that's why they say you return there. you came from there originally as all earthly life did.
Death and the undead are a regular occurrence in the lands between according to the following item descriptions
---
Greatsword patterned after the black steeple of the Helphen, the lampwood which guides the dead of the spirit world.
The lamplight is similar to grace in appearance, only it is said that it can only be seen by those who met their death in battle
Usher of Death, Rosus, who shows the path to the catacombs throughout the Lands Between, is depicted on this ritual axe.
The dead easily lose their way, and have always been in sore need of a guiding hand.
Summons a group of Those Lost in Death. Three skeletons will appear some distance from the caster and attack foes before disappearing.
The dead have long been left to wander; what they need is leadership
The dead gazed at the skies over the lakes of Limgrave, praying that the dragons' flames would burn them to ash.
The spirits of nobles who, after death, now wander the Lands Between. Surely they were in search of something once - but whatever it was has long been forgotten
2 years ago
Anonymous
>The dead gazed at the skies over the lakes of Limgrave, praying that the dragons' flames would burn them to ash.
Prior to the erdtree and elden beast, the natural "ecosystem" of the land between was for dragon flame to 'purge the weeds' as it were.
There was also Ghostflame existed BEFORE the erdtree.
This is why I say the erdtree is NOT the start of life/creation...contrary to what erdtree zealots say.
>Sorcery of the servants of Death. >Strike the ground with the staff, triggering an explosion of ghostflame that burns the surrounding area. >In the time when there was no Erdtree, death was burned in ghostflame. >Deathbirds were the keepers of that fire.
https://eldenring.wiki.fextralife.com/Explosive+Ghostflame
>The twinbird is said to be the envoy of an outer god, and mother of the Deathbirds.
https://eldenring.wiki.fextralife.com/Twinbird+Kite+Shield
Outer gods and humans have been alive in the lands between since before the elden beast and the Crucible.
It did not create life.
2 years ago
Anonymous
see
>It is said that long ago, the Greater Will sent a golden star bearing a beast into the Lands Between, which would later become the Elden Ring. >Golden amber contains the remnants of ancient life, and houses its vitality, >The Dragonlord whose seat lies at the heart of the storm beyond time is said to have been Elden Lord in the age before the Erdtree. >Lay bare the secrets of life which course the Elden Ring. > When the Elden Ring was shattered, these seeds flew from the Erdtree, scattering across the various lands, as if life itself knew that its end has come.
It's all the same tree, and the elden ring has always been a part of it. ever since the ring came down to TLB and created life. Old erdtree incantations are are called crucible incantations. The oldest erdtree incantation is elden stars.
>This is a manifestation of the Erdtree's primal vital energies—an aspect of the primordial crucible, where all life was once blended together.
Another place where life is attributed to the greater will:
[310053040] All that there is came from the One Great.
[310053050] Then came fractures, and births, and souls.
[310053060] But the Greater Will made a mistake.
[310053070] Torment, despair, affliction. Every sin, every curse.
[310053080] Every one, born of the mistake.
[310053090] And so, what was borrowed must be returned.
[310053100] Melt it all away, with the yellow chaos flame.
[310053110] Until all is One again
Here "One Great" is likely referring to "all life blended together", which all living things fractured off from
for an explanation of how things could exist before "the golden tree" but the tree itself still existed and was called the crucible
Honestly I don't think the ghostflame stuff was any good
> the dead were burned with ghostflame, and from those cinders arose vengeful spirits
It just sounds like it made more undead ghost people for their cult to use
The crucible is the source of all life. And returning to it has always been a proper death. The guides you talk about guide people to the catacombs which have the roots. Trying to burn the dead is some fricked up evil outergod shit
I remember people wondering if Commander O'Neil was Malenia's or Radahn's, but I think it's pretty clear that he was Malenia's. His reskin of Commander Niall even has a prosthetic that unfurls like Malenia's, and he's guarding a location clearly linked to Miquella.
I'm not too sure about that. He admired Radagon and Godfrey, but he also has a Godskin Apostle in his Divine Tower that's guarding the Godslayer Greatsword. Additionally, we know that he was most likely on good terms with his siblings, both of whom are against the Greater Will.
>he also has a Godskin Apostle in his Divine Tower that's guarding the Godslayer Greatsword
And? Does it look like Radahn has been there lately or has any control over it?
We don't really know if the apostle is there on Radahn's behalf or not. The duo showing up in Froom Azoom is hardly an indication that they work for Maliketh. It's possible Radahn was letting his tower out to the GEQ, but also possible it was there surreptitiously.
He's also friendly to the Cleanrot Knights patrolling outside of his arena. I baited them in yesterday to check, they work together to kill you and then go back to their patrols.
Why the frick does my maiden burn herself to death?
I got rid of the b***h melina for pure maiden hyetta but she offed herself immediately, now I'm maidenless again.
>Millicent states that Malenia's "sense of self" keeps the Rot suppressed >Unalloyed Gold Needle's description changes to directing the player to give back Malenia's "sense of self" when Millicent dies and leaves it coated with her dew >returning the needle to Malenia's rebirth flower causes her to give you gifts in return so it apparently worked and she'll be herself when she wakes up
>the Lake of Rot is located downstream of the Ainsel River >its map states that the Lake of Rot is the prison of the God of Rot, and we see the flowing water of the Ainsel is constantly pouring into it, as if ensuring the God of Rot stays submerged >Ainsel is a Gaelic word that literally means "own self"
>Malenia's mentor sealed the God of Rot in the Lake of Rot in the past >strongly associated with flowing water through items like the Curved Flowing Sword which was "patterned after flowing water" >description of Blue Dancer Charm also states that he got the sword from a fairy >Ainsel is also the name of a famous fairy from British mythology
If this was all intended then unironically bravo Miyazaki.
What kinda weird space elder god shit would we see in the inevitable dlc? The fingers are practically just antennas for the greater will in deep space to relay messages to humanity, I wanna see the greater will have enough of your bullshit after you kill all his vassals and personally comes to the lands between, landing between the divine towers in the lake/ocean
What happens to Queen Marika in the restore the Elden Ring endings? I thought the player was supposed to become her consort, but nothing is shown like in Ranni's ending.
This has always been my interpretation. Marika crumbles in FF ending and blows away as dust in Ranni ending, but is “reconstructed” by placing her head back on her body in the Elden Lord endings. So I took that to mean that she was going to be revived somehow, but with Radagon exorcised.
she seems to be dead, with only her body remaining as a vessel:
>Sacred Relic Sword: Sword wrought from the remains of a god who should have lived a life eternal.
and to address this idea, imo the sword is made of Radagon’s remains, but jot Marika’s.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I feel like it's supposed to be like a D bros situation, honestly. One can die without the other, and Marika wanted someone who could kill Radagon's part of her.
Something I have noticed is that for various portions of the lore the community has split mainly into two separate camps for each issue.
For example those who think Radgon Fused with Marika later vs those who think Radagon is a split aspect who returned or Marika shattered the ring as a part of a big plot vs those who thing she shattered the ring out of grief.
Ans this continues on for most lore questions
I don't have much else to say but I find it neat that the communities takes on the lore mirror the in game themes of duality.
>elden ring has no lor-
what was up with the soulless demigods? were they killed by the black knives? also what runes did vyke and ofnir have?
i would say black knives killed them for these reasons
1. bandai site mentions multiple targets that night. though the site may not be canon, there are a lot of assassins spread across the map
2. there is much emphasis on godwyn being the *first* of the demigods to die. not only does that imply others died but why would people say he's the first if the mausoleums were already there?
3. the demigods are explicitly soulless. a unique thing about destined death is destruction of the soul. so it seems very likely they killed them too
it's not clear that gideon or vyke had great runes. as having two is not a prerequisite to becoming elden lord.
after you get two, enia says she's only ever seen two together once before (which means there is no way both of them had two). enia then says the fingers expect a lot from you, and from gideon and the others whom she sees as your equal
Man... this game died rreally fast...
Was it really just FOTM?
waiting on dlc
they need some kind of randomly generated rouge-like area
It’s a single player game that’s been out for over four months. Most people have beaten it and moved on like with any other single player game.
true
yeah that's why no one talks about skyrim anymore OH WAIT
fromdrones seething
Not even, just paid promotion and spam
It's total shit, no one will remember it in a year, it's such a worthless trashheap that some snoy moviegame is gonna blow it out of the water come years end and sweep every award show
FROM is a dead company and no amount of fake sales data and bribed reviews will save them, they're just trying to get bought out to line execs pockets before they jump ship
bye b***h
>dominated the board for three months despite primarily being a single player game
> spammed threads for 3 months to try and generate hype
My own TAKE on the world of Elden Ring based on what I know.
-The Crucible is the true source of power in this land. Originally it had a chaos form like a living version of T-1000. It is an avatar of raw potential.
-The Crucible knights were ardent supporters and even retain arms, armor, skills from this time.
-During this more ancient time, there were many terrestrial gods, giants, and dragons.
-The Godskins and Black flame developed as human main armament against many of these foes.
-divine towers were erected at specific Leylines. Conduits of Crucible power.
>exacts on chronological order gets wonky here, but ultimately knowing the sequence is supplemental autism and not consequential to current events
-Nokron got too wienery and used magic to accidentally let outer gods know where planet is.
>same thing happened in WoW when night elves drew attention of burning legion by using power of well of eternity.
-outer gods attracted to its power and began landing
Humans interpret this as divine.
>"muh greater will is upset"
>"muh greater will sent the erdtree"
-The Elden Beast (outer god) lands and begins absorbing/drawing off power of the Crucible.
-pops out of central tower of divinity to basically supplant it.
-Elden beast uses power of Crucible to take form of tree.
-tree does not actually grant or create life.
>this is evident by "dead" trees found in calied and altus
-It actually absorbs and draws upon world around it and recycles it.
-the trees are parasites
-the elden beast is the central energy parasite.
-marika granted power of elden ring.
-comes to realize she is a puppet
-orchestrates a grand scheme so convoluted that even an omniscient creature could not stop.
-she failed, but her strike left a crack and opening that could be exploited to dispose the Elden Beast and shake free from the unending stagnation and decay that has befallen the Land Between.
>It is said that long ago, the Greater Will sent a golden star bearing a beast into the Lands Between, which would later become the Elden Ring.
>Golden amber contains the remnants of ancient life, and houses its vitality,
>The Dragonlord whose seat lies at the heart of the storm beyond time is said to have been Elden Lord in the age before the Erdtree.
>Lay bare the secrets of life which course the Elden Ring.
> When the Elden Ring was shattered, these seeds flew from the Erdtree, scattering across the various lands, as if life itself knew that its end has come.
It's all the same tree, and the elden ring has always been a part of it. ever since the ring came down to TLB and created life. Old erdtree incantations are are called crucible incantations. The oldest erdtree incantation is elden stars.
>This is a manifestation of the Erdtree's primal vital energies—an aspect of the primordial crucible, where all life was once blended together.
Another place where life is attributed to the greater will:
[310053040] All that there is came from the One Great.
[310053050] Then came fractures, and births, and souls.
[310053060] But the Greater Will made a mistake.
[310053070] Torment, despair, affliction. Every sin, every curse.
[310053080] Every one, born of the mistake.
[310053090] And so, what was borrowed must be returned.
[310053100] Melt it all away, with the yellow chaos flame.
[310053110] Until all is One again
Here "One Great" is likely referring to "all life blended together", which all living things fractured off from
The mistake that pretty much all of Ganker makes in understanding "lore".
Is that even the lore suffers "unreliable narrator" effect.
Cast the below into action/intent instead.
>It is said that long ago, the Greater Will sent a golden star bearing a beast into the Lands Between, which would later become the Elden Ring.
A sentient creature landed. Intent = tbd
>Golden amber contains the remnants of ancient life, and houses its vitality
The amber is basically a giant seed. Similar to how scientists think comets containing enzymes and/or microbes may have helped to seed Earth during primordial conditions.
>The Dragonlord whose seat lies at the heart of the storm beyond time is said to have been Elden Lord in the age before the Erdtree
Dragons were most powerful.
>Lay bare the secrets of life which course the Elden Ring.
> When the Elden Ring was shattered, these seeds flew from the Erdtree, scattering across the various lands, as if life itself knew that its end has come.
Defense reaction of the tree was to send out more energy draining parasites. Spawn more future tree avatars.
it created life, and is the only peaceful resting place for those that died. it's like heaven in tree form. how is it a parasite?
You described the golden order in a nutshell.
The "natural order" is that when you die you die.
without the tree you wander around as a ghost after death. you need the tree to die properly, and return to the origin of all life. that's why they say you return there. you came from there originally as all earthly life did.
Death and the undead are a regular occurrence in the lands between according to the following item descriptions
---
Greatsword patterned after the black steeple of the Helphen, the lampwood which guides the dead of the spirit world.
The lamplight is similar to grace in appearance, only it is said that it can only be seen by those who met their death in battle
Usher of Death, Rosus, who shows the path to the catacombs throughout the Lands Between, is depicted on this ritual axe.
The dead easily lose their way, and have always been in sore need of a guiding hand.
Summons a group of Those Lost in Death. Three skeletons will appear some distance from the caster and attack foes before disappearing.
The dead have long been left to wander; what they need is leadership
The dead gazed at the skies over the lakes of Limgrave, praying that the dragons' flames would burn them to ash.
The spirits of nobles who, after death, now wander the Lands Between. Surely they were in search of something once - but whatever it was has long been forgotten
>The dead gazed at the skies over the lakes of Limgrave, praying that the dragons' flames would burn them to ash.
Prior to the erdtree and elden beast, the natural "ecosystem" of the land between was for dragon flame to 'purge the weeds' as it were.
There was also Ghostflame existed BEFORE the erdtree.
This is why I say the erdtree is NOT the start of life/creation...contrary to what erdtree zealots say.
>Sorcery of the servants of Death.
>Strike the ground with the staff, triggering an explosion of ghostflame that burns the surrounding area.
>In the time when there was no Erdtree, death was burned in ghostflame. >Deathbirds were the keepers of that fire.
https://eldenring.wiki.fextralife.com/Explosive+Ghostflame
>The twinbird is said to be the envoy of an outer god, and mother of the Deathbirds.
https://eldenring.wiki.fextralife.com/Twinbird+Kite+Shield
Outer gods and humans have been alive in the lands between since before the elden beast and the Crucible.
It did not create life.
see
for an explanation of how things could exist before "the golden tree" but the tree itself still existed and was called the crucible
Honestly I don't think the ghostflame stuff was any good
> the dead were burned with ghostflame, and from those cinders arose vengeful spirits
It just sounds like it made more undead ghost people for their cult to use
The crucible is the source of all life. And returning to it has always been a proper death. The guides you talk about guide people to the catacombs which have the roots. Trying to burn the dead is some fricked up evil outergod shit
Reminder that Marika's nickname in school was Cracky-chan
so why does that scorpion rot god dagger have a wolf pommel?
wtf.... never noticed that.
nothing about that item makes sense though. a piece of an outer god? wtf?
I remember people wondering if Commander O'Neil was Malenia's or Radahn's, but I think it's pretty clear that he was Malenia's. His reskin of Commander Niall even has a prosthetic that unfurls like Malenia's, and he's guarding a location clearly linked to Miquella.
radahn is a golden order fanatic, so it was clearly him working with miquella to restore godwyn the golden
If Radahn and Miquella were working together, why did Malenia attack Radahn?
I'm not too sure about that. He admired Radagon and Godfrey, but he also has a Godskin Apostle in his Divine Tower that's guarding the Godslayer Greatsword. Additionally, we know that he was most likely on good terms with his siblings, both of whom are against the Greater Will.
>he also has a Godskin Apostle in his Divine Tower that's guarding the Godslayer Greatsword
And? Does it look like Radahn has been there lately or has any control over it?
His soldiers are still there. I can't verify if they're hostile to one another or not, though.
They're not. Lure them into the same room and they'll work together to kill you and then leave each other alone when you're dead.
Rykard also has a Godskin Noble and Blackflame Monks in his manor. Blackflame Monks are only found there and in Radahn's Divine Tower.
>I can't verify if they're hostile to one another or not, though.
There’s no way to verify that, since the Godskins are behind a boss door iirc
I meant the Blackflame Monks, like this anon says
We don't really know if the apostle is there on Radahn's behalf or not. The duo showing up in Froom Azoom is hardly an indication that they work for Maliketh. It's possible Radahn was letting his tower out to the GEQ, but also possible it was there surreptitiously.
He's also friendly to the Cleanrot Knights patrolling outside of his arena. I baited them in yesterday to check, they work together to kill you and then go back to their patrols.
Just here to say that you're still an interminable autist
Reminder Radagon is a Silver Tear clone of Marika
he's not silver though
I wish a very fine day to all my lorebros
It's been a long time...
we should make a discord or something so we can stay connected ;_;
Why, do you want to share dick pics with lorebros?
just keep in touch while we wait for dlc
Threadly reminder that Erdtree reincarnation is not mentioned anywhere and it's completely made up
it's mentioned in the vaati videos
this
except the only person who mentions it is an insane freak who rubs shit in wounds and calls it a curse
Why the frick does my maiden burn herself to death?
I got rid of the b***h melina for pure maiden hyetta but she offed herself immediately, now I'm maidenless again.
WILFUL TRAITORS, ALL
what was his problem?
>Millicent states that Malenia's "sense of self" keeps the Rot suppressed
>Unalloyed Gold Needle's description changes to directing the player to give back Malenia's "sense of self" when Millicent dies and leaves it coated with her dew
>returning the needle to Malenia's rebirth flower causes her to give you gifts in return so it apparently worked and she'll be herself when she wakes up
>the Lake of Rot is located downstream of the Ainsel River
>its map states that the Lake of Rot is the prison of the God of Rot, and we see the flowing water of the Ainsel is constantly pouring into it, as if ensuring the God of Rot stays submerged
>Ainsel is a Gaelic word that literally means "own self"
>Malenia's mentor sealed the God of Rot in the Lake of Rot in the past
>strongly associated with flowing water through items like the Curved Flowing Sword which was "patterned after flowing water"
>description of Blue Dancer Charm also states that he got the sword from a fairy
>Ainsel is also the name of a famous fairy from British mythology
If this was all intended then unironically bravo Miyazaki.
Kino
hi legal laws schizo nice to see you
Gideon's dialogue at the end is masterful, a masterclass of writing in such a small number of lines.
Erdtree=/=Crucible. The Crucible did beget all life and the Elden Beast divided all life into differentiated forms, but the Erdtree itself did not.
The crucible is the primodial energy of the Erdtree, stop pulling shit to make excuses for Marika and Ranni.
What kinda weird space elder god shit would we see in the inevitable dlc? The fingers are practically just antennas for the greater will in deep space to relay messages to humanity, I wanna see the greater will have enough of your bullshit after you kill all his vassals and personally comes to the lands between, landing between the divine towers in the lake/ocean
miyazaki is a hack
>all the cut content
>1.0
What happens to Queen Marika in the restore the Elden Ring endings? I thought the player was supposed to become her consort, but nothing is shown like in Ranni's ending.
They don't show anything to avoid an AO rating.
They could have the player taking her hand like with Ranni. I was thinking that maybe she died since it wasn't clear.
Yeah. Given that Marika probably helps us the most throughout the journey, it's a shame that we barely interact with her.
she seems to be dead, with only her body remaining as a vessel:
>Sacred Relic Sword: Sword wrought from the remains of a god who should have lived a life eternal.
So Ranni ending really is the only decent one. That's too bad.
You seem to restore her in the usual ending, though.
This has always been my interpretation. Marika crumbles in FF ending and blows away as dust in Ranni ending, but is “reconstructed” by placing her head back on her body in the Elden Lord endings. So I took that to mean that she was going to be revived somehow, but with Radagon exorcised.
and to address this idea, imo the sword is made of Radagon’s remains, but jot Marika’s.
I feel like it's supposed to be like a D bros situation, honestly. One can die without the other, and Marika wanted someone who could kill Radagon's part of her.
FROM doesn't know because they suck at plots, so they left it "mysterious"
Resting in her bed after the intense sex she just had with the Tarnished
The "lore" in fromsoft games is so forced holy shit.
Something I have noticed is that for various portions of the lore the community has split mainly into two separate camps for each issue.
For example those who think Radgon Fused with Marika later vs those who think Radagon is a split aspect who returned or Marika shattered the ring as a part of a big plot vs those who thing she shattered the ring out of grief.
Ans this continues on for most lore questions
I don't have much else to say but I find it neat that the communities takes on the lore mirror the in game themes of duality.
It's mostly people who read the items and make their own theories vs people who parrot youtube theories. You can spot them from a mile away
Yeah it’s kind of funny
another one is how some people think Godwyn was a merman and some people don’t
Frick off Vaati
Find somewhere else to mine content