Ice is actually a very good type in the first generation. It hits Dragon, Flying, Grass and Ground for super effective damage and is only resisted by Water and Ice Pokemon. Blizzard can be easily placed in the top 5 best non-status moves due to its amazing power-to-accuracy ratio and broken side effect.
On the defensive side, Ice is only weak to Fighting, Fire and Rock while only resisting itself. It looks bad until you consider that Fighting type has only underwhelming Submission, Rock type has only Rock Slide (which is mainly learned by Pokemon weak to Blizzard) and Fire type struggle with the fact that half of Ice types are partially Water.
>Fire type struggle with the fact that half of Ice types are partially Water
not just that, but you actively avoid freezing you're opponent in gen 1 since this means you may not freeze him. oh, and you don't want to thaw frozen pkmn
I wish Kanto had a normal type e4 member, specifically before lance.
>Tauros,persian and snorlax are basically the kings of gen 1, could even make a case for khangaskan >Clefable/wigglytuff/chansey all hold they're own with giant HP and decent special stats >Dodrio for drill peck crithax and tri attack >Frick it, use a raticate just for super fang and revenge quick attacks
>Kanto has Bruno instead >Bruno is the only E4 member that stayed
unironically fricked up
Agatha is the only Kanto E4 member who really deserves her place and she has merely 1 evolutionary line of her speciality to work with.
fair point. you might argue that every type specialist could easily be countered if you just had 1 OP mon, but Bruno and Lance in particular were pushovers. Erika, Koga and Sabrina all had better teams considering what they could do with their types. You know, spreading status, evasion, buffing, recovery...
Even as a kid, I thought Lance beign the champion in Gen II was anti climatic. Oh, the lad who was previously just a normal eilite member and team, bar garadyose is still as one shot with ice beam. Also 2 dragon speicalests at a time when there were only 2 fulled evoled dragons?
Bruno was also a mistake to keep. OK ya he's now the new Hitmon but they didn't even give him Steelix. They should have replaced Bruno with a ground speicalist. Gen II introduced a lot of new ground mons and it was teh oly type not repersented
>The Battle Resort is home to several Trainers that specialize in a certain type, each of whom can be battled once a day. Each Trainer has seven different teams, from which they will randomly choose one, but among all of the Trainer's teams, only seven different Pokémon are used.
So a complete bunch of randoms.
Even Koichi and Kiyo in Fighting category make more sense since they were leaders in Saffron's previous gym.
Dragon resists all starter types, it's designed to be a wall that blocks your ace so you have to get a tram together to take it out. Thats the whole point, there's really no other reason for it to resist grass or electric. It's fitting as a final boss.
Personally, I think dragon is better for a first gym type, it specifically resists your starter when that's probably all you have, or maybe one more mon. It would be a good consistency challenge no matter what starter you picked.
>only super-effective on a single type >only has 4 resistances >fairy is immune
dragon is a type only carried by the psuedos and legendaries that have the type slapped onto it. but the type itself is pretty dogshit mediocre
>The strongest trainers don't use shit typings
Makes sense to me
They've used bug once, fire twice, ane ice thrice thoughever.
They used Bug and Rock
>Electric
>shit typing
Ice type is shit though
Even more so in gen 3 and later
Grass is good though
Normal was one of the strongest types in gen 1.
Ice was shit in every generation.
Ice was okay at worst in gen 1.
Fighting sucked and there were no Steels yet.
Ice is actually a very good type in the first generation. It hits Dragon, Flying, Grass and Ground for super effective damage and is only resisted by Water and Ice Pokemon. Blizzard can be easily placed in the top 5 best non-status moves due to its amazing power-to-accuracy ratio and broken side effect.
On the defensive side, Ice is only weak to Fighting, Fire and Rock while only resisting itself. It looks bad until you consider that Fighting type has only underwhelming Submission, Rock type has only Rock Slide (which is mainly learned by Pokemon weak to Blizzard) and Fire type struggle with the fact that half of Ice types are partially Water.
>Fire type struggle with the fact that half of Ice types are partially Water
not just that, but you actively avoid freezing you're opponent in gen 1 since this means you may not freeze him. oh, and you don't want to thaw frozen pkmn
WHY did you have to turn this into a shit on bugs thread
There's one two posts that said that and neither of them got meaningful replies latching on to it. Outgrow your victim complex.
sidney
He is a Dark type trainer though
I wish Kanto had a normal type e4 member, specifically before lance.
>Tauros,persian and snorlax are basically the kings of gen 1, could even make a case for khangaskan
>Clefable/wigglytuff/chansey all hold they're own with giant HP and decent special stats
>Dodrio for drill peck crithax and tri attack
>Frick it, use a raticate just for super fang and revenge quick attacks
>Kanto has Bruno instead
>Bruno is the only E4 member that stayed
unironically fricked up
Agatha is the only Kanto E4 member who really deserves her place and she has merely 1 evolutionary line of her speciality to work with.
Loreli's teams was pretty good. Ya I know it could be thunderbolted but the ice mons in Gen I were quite strong
fair point. you might argue that every type specialist could easily be countered if you just had 1 OP mon, but Bruno and Lance in particular were pushovers. Erika, Koga and Sabrina all had better teams considering what they could do with their types. You know, spreading status, evasion, buffing, recovery...
Even as a kid, I thought Lance beign the champion in Gen II was anti climatic. Oh, the lad who was previously just a normal eilite member and team, bar garadyose is still as one shot with ice beam. Also 2 dragon speicalests at a time when there were only 2 fulled evoled dragons?
Bruno was also a mistake to keep. OK ya he's now the new Hitmon but they didn't even give him Steelix. They should have replaced Bruno with a ground speicalist. Gen II introduced a lot of new ground mons and it was teh oly type not repersented
Well, in Pokemon Stadium 2, Bruno in Round 2 is one of the hardest fights in the whole game.
Meanwhile we just got ANOTHER Dragon E4 despite already having FOUR previously. LameFreak is creatively bankrupt.
Forced cetitan.
I can't believe there is no dragon specialist in Sinnoh.
>Hoenn
>Fairy
>Josephine
Who?
>The Battle Resort is home to several Trainers that specialize in a certain type, each of whom can be battled once a day. Each Trainer has seven different teams, from which they will randomly choose one, but among all of the Trainer's teams, only seven different Pokémon are used.
So a complete bunch of randoms.
Even Koichi and Kiyo in Fighting category make more sense since they were leaders in Saffron's previous gym.
>Alola's ice specialist is a version exlusive throwaway character with two Pokemon
Lilie should have been the Ice specialist
Dragon resists all starter types, it's designed to be a wall that blocks your ace so you have to get a tram together to take it out. Thats the whole point, there's really no other reason for it to resist grass or electric. It's fitting as a final boss.
Personally, I think dragon is better for a first gym type, it specifically resists your starter when that's probably all you have, or maybe one more mon. It would be a good consistency challenge no matter what starter you picked.
don't forget fairy
Lacey and to an extent, Bede.
But Larry is a Normal-type specialist
As a Gym Leader.
Larry was forced to change to another Type when he fight as an Elite 4 (Flying in this case)
Fairy was also never used. It'd be cool if the next one was grass, normal, electric and fairy but it will be fighting, ice, dragon and dark again
Lacey from the SV DLC might be our first Fairy Type Elite 4
I feel like the dlc elite four will be multitype trainers because all the type specialists got used in the base game, maybe they'll have themed teams
i sure hope so because they scream Steel, Dragon, Fairy and Fire
>only super-effective on a single type
>only has 4 resistances
>fairy is immune
dragon is a type only carried by the psuedos and legendaries that have the type slapped onto it. but the type itself is pretty dogshit mediocre
Why is grass such a shit typing, they never had a gym leader beyond the fourth. At least electric had Volkner.
it's the type with the most number of weaknesses
why is it called "grass" and not "plant" like in almost every other language?
To make you ask questions.