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>Emil
You mean Emiliano Rodolfo Rosales-Birou, also known as Emile Rosales and better known by his online alias Chuggaaconroy?
>video essayist shilling for incompetent devs
lmao
>He doesn't know
LOL
>writing in starfield is a collaborative process
completely fricking wrong, and we know it. we know its the quest designers who write this shit. i don't even need to watch more to know that this literal whotuber is a moron.
Did you watch the video or assume that's what the video is about?
let me watch this 2 hour video befor I reply to your thread
Yeah it would be a start if otherwise you have no idea what the video is about, you're just assuming you know based on a title and thumbnail for a video that's over two hours long.
How hard is it to not enter a thread you have no interest in engaging the subject with?
op is misleading if the video really isnt about defending emil
you cant deny that
>How hard is it to not enter a thread you have no interest in engaging the subject with?
how hard is it to talk about video games on Ganker
go to Ganker if you want to talk about youtube videos, moron
>How hard is it to not enter a thread you have no interest in engaging the subject with?
Why would you make threads that no one is going to post in otherwise?
you know that video has a comment section for all the people who watched the video, you don't need to use us for that purpose
>skip to a random section
>"uhm, I'm sorry, but that's not how truth works. Truth is not a one way concept"
Genocide youtube essay Black folk
Most youtube essayists are communists, and commies don't believe in truth. It's to be expected.
Did he actually say that? Frick that's bad.
why would you just make shit up?
no
OK but I could imagine he did and that says a lot.
So he literally said it? Thanks for confirming
Why is reading so difficult for you? You're doing it right now.
Or - a novel idea I know - we can instead talk about VIDEO GAMES, not youtube, on the VIDEO GAME board.
Youtube has videogame content, thus is talking about videogames
>Starfield is boring
VIDEO GAMES
>Emil, lead writer of Starfield, has a flawed process for game design because of X
>For more context see this youtube video
VIDEO GAMES
>EMILBROS, HOW DO WE RESPOND
>*shills eceleb*
NOT VIDEO GAMES
>You can't talk about Emil until address every single point one of muh eceleb's points
>*links bloated clickbait*
NOT VIDEO GAMES
Learn the difference. It could save your life.
Anon, PatricianTV shill his stuff here. Half the posts in this thread are probably his, and some of the other from his braindead audience.
I cannot be un-convinced that this homosexual is the youtuber in the OP and he's advertising his channel.
>Thread is about a video
>Anon asks have you watched the video?
>No... but
>Ok then why are in the thread?
Why is this such a difficult concept? No one is forcing anyone to be here or to watch a video a thread is about. It's the same with all the game threads on this board, why are you going into the thread if you have no interest in the game?
You're doing it not for discussion but to shitpost, at least be honest with yourself.
If you only care about this random video essay then you probably should've made a post in its comment section instead of here.
I will mock homosexual Youtube essayists who are barely separated from a standard breadtuber. No I will not spend 2 hours of my life listening to their brainless takes, a vast majority of these people don't read books.
>No I will not spend two hours of my life watching a video
>But I will spend 6 hours of my life in a single thread about it
Wew
>15 minutes ago
Yes, it's very obviously him
NKB is the modern matthemathosis, he constantly drops vids that land on point, skirting the contrarian and realist line very basedly
meanwhile garbage like patricianTV or synthetic man are just bottom of the barrel rage content mills for midwits
Difference is that Matthew actually understood game design and gave innovate commentary, while NeverKnows doesn't.
matthew has more of a journalist's flair to his videos same as with noah where they go on obscene tangents but the way they present their opinions, evidence them and then argue them are very similar to nkb i feel like.
Matthew was the best commentator because he had original thoughts. Nobody else would think to make a video about inductive vs deductive reasoning after playing Obra Dinn. NKB only has braindead takes like "people are only interested in extremely good/bad things and ignore the boring". Like, yeah, no shit.
neverknowsbest is a complete moron who doesn't respect video games as an artform despite him thinking he does. one of the homosexualty millenial type people who thinks its all about "vibes" and games being "mysterious". matthew is shit too though but for different reasons, mainly being a bad writer.
>low iq post
>repeating PatricianTV's argument
lmao, can't make this shit up
>video games as an artform
You actually talk like you're some 16 year old trying to be ""intelligent"" by watching some pretentious video essayist
PatricianTV and Synthetic Man aren't same. Former is way above bottom of barell contents and provides valid criticisms, meanwhile the latter is legitimate edgelord who refuses to move on in life and only focuses on negativity.
i have lots of hours in fo76 and i was checking out his thoughts on fo76 and though i would hear a fresh take by someone who has 1% the hours in the game as me but it's more of the same. laughing at bugs, making up contrived complaints about how nuking is thematically bad, the worst thing is that i watched all 4 parts (8 hours), and i dont remember anything beside his thesis that the game isn't as good as people claim. he literally can't say anything original or interesting, meanwhile NKB comes out with fresh and original ideas consistently, like he has a 5hour video on chinese indie games, or the history of video games, which are not even video essays, but essays with documentative purposes. it's really good journalistic work honestly.
Nice blogpost, NKB
I really, really hope nkb hasn't spend 15k hours on 76
>meanwhile the latter is legitimate edgelord who refuses to move on in life and only focuses on negativity.
I saw his elden ring review, it was the one of the only reviews I saw that actually criticized the recycling & the other problems with the game. Almost everyone else was blindly sucking the game off so I appreciated his focus on negativity as a counter balance to the rest of toxically positive reviews about that game.
What do you mean? His elden ring video was literally just "Elden Ring is good." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fH8o_-iKvA
that made me laugh, thanks for that.
>probably the best video on that game
His video on it was solid, funny thing about that game is if it came out last year instead of 2022 he'd implicitly argue that you can't have a negative view of it because the metacritic score was high.
> it was the one of the only reviews I saw that actually criticized the recycling & the other problems with the game
NeverKnowsBest is actually way more critic of Elden Ring, and probably the best video on that game
>meanwhile the latter is legitimate edgelord who refuses to move on in life and only focuses on negativity.
you mean the guy who just made a video where he's looking forward to DD2?
>1 video out of 100 is positive
You're so incredibly gullible it's not even funny.
I dunno, maybe more? I haven't watched a single one to make sure, unlike you. Was expecting someone to tell me he's actually dumping on the game.
Completely agree and those who know of the two will not find fault in your conclusion.
>complimenting yourself
Let it be known that Neverknowsbest uploaded a video and not even 10 minutes later immediately ran to Ganker to try and shill it. This reminder will sit in the Ganker archives for anyone to find. The proof is in this very thread.
people have been making NKB threads consistently every time he uploads on Ganker for a while now, and even if he was OP which i think would be hilariously based considering that cuck he talks about in his video actually screenshots himself on Ganker to use in his videos
archives dont feature him very frequently at all until this thread
look better then, he's becoming popular among Ganker eceleb threads
No, you're not.
why do you even know who these people are
please, just play video games, stop watching other people play video games and stop watching other people talk about video games.
Use your own fricking brain instead of just swallowing and regurgitating information without any understanding or comprehension of the subject like you did in school.
I don't particularly dislike him but he said in his last video that starfield was a 7/10.
he is insanely biased toward Bethesda so I don't really trust his video on the subject.
Also while looking for how did people started to talk about Emil he strangely failed to mention what was probably the most important part: the very popular videos from Joseph Anderson.
At least that where I learned about Emil.
>he strangely failed to mention what was probably the most important part: the very popular videos from Joseph Anderson.
He has a pattern of subliminally insulting youtubers who are generally critical of modern games & anderson isn’t in that group so it's not really strange that he'd deliberately omit him.
>insulting youtubers who are generally critical of modern games
he's terrified of any kind of negativity
Unless he's the one being negative, of course. Shitting on dragon age 2's story on that basis that it doesn't reference any literary works is fine but how dare anyone complain about EA having a negative influence on bioware's games, that's not only uncalled for but doesn't warrant anything but a snarky subliminal response dismissing the criticism. Given his history of doing that I have to give him credit where it’s due for making a 2 hour video openly attacking other youtubers instead of subtly seething about them in other with unrelated videos like he usually does.
>he said in his last video that starfield was a 7/10
Seems fair?
YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND it was a 3/10
no 2/10
fine -1/10
FRICK YOU TODD YOU'RE NOT MY REAL DAD
now release ES6 already FRICK
I have complaints about PatricianTV but on the whole he is head and shoulders above Synthetic and to say them in the same sentence is such a disservice to Pat.
Synthetic doesn't believe in anything other than grifting rage bait for views. He doesn't believe in any of it and he's clearly not that intelligent but what he's good at is drumming up rage and people misinterpret that as critique, it's not.
>He doesn't believe in any of it
I always suspected that was secretly one of /ourguys/
This is the same guy that said 2023 was a great year in gaming & you *cannot* disagree because the games got high metacritic scores.
No really.
Oh, this is that homosexual? I got recommended that video. I got a minute or so into it when he said that stupid shit and clicked off. No clue what the OP is all about but now I definitely don't care.
>Oh, this is that homosexual?
What’s hilarious is that up until this point he's been a pretty critical reviewer of older games with a lot of reasons given but now he's not only solely relying on metacritic as proof of quality but taking an absolutist position based on it by saying "you can't disagree with the metacritic" as if gaming media is without reproach.
>This is the same guy that said 2023 was a great year in gaming
It was and no amount of seething Gankercuck contrarian cope will change that fact
name a single good 2023 game
I liked Hrot.
Corn Kidz 64 I actually really enjoyed it and only wish it was longer
Baldurs Gate 3
wrong
FFXVI, Warhammer 40k Rogue Trader, Warhammer 40k Boltgun.
>ffslop and 40kslop
nah
What is a good game according to you two?
DARK SOULS 3: THE FIRE FADES™ EDITION
SOULSLOP
>FFXVI
LMAO
>Boltgun
L M A O
rogue trader is decent tho
Saying it was a great year & pointing to metacritic as proof isn’t convincing especially coming from someone who routinely does hours long videos justifying their views.
i usually hate video essay gays but a video shitting on emil for 2 hours? I'll let that slide.
shilling, not shitting
Youtube Leftoids + Giant Slopfactory Corpos
Name a more iconic duo
PatricianTV is definitely an autistic lolbertarian but I get the impression NKB believes himself to be an enlightened centrist. He's definitely not a "leftist" as much as he's a fence sitter who has liberal and libertarian leanings. You know, a 2011 era Redditor.
So youre saying hes a leftist in denial then
Except hiring a bunch of indians to badmouth New Vegas/praise fallout 3. Maybe don’t start shit dont get hit.
New Vegas is just as mid as FO3. Le Quirky Obsidian writing doesn't make it any bettern
>Better writing doesn't make a game where the only good aspect is the writing better.
>better writing
Fallout 3 is a very low bar.
Buy an ad, or at least tell us it's your video so we watch it just to laugh at you
man i don't want to watch a two hour video on how emil actually isn't a bad writer and how people were way too mean to him because people use the internet for anonymous catharsis and don't give a shit about anything beyond validating preconceived narratives
the first part isn't true and I already knew the second part
This dude made a video about how people are obsessed with bad games just to say "Actually, Starfield is playable, so stop calling it bad."
well with how the internet hate it had, you'd think it was the worst game ever but it just okay, people had more fun sandbagging it with hate as a released
>you'd think it was the worst game ever but it just okay
Yeah, thanks for parroting him, you brainless slug.
Functioning does not make a game "okay." People are justified in calling Starfield terrible for its horrible writing, pacing and lack of content.
but it's not terrible or shit, you emotional herd animals. It is aggressively mediocre and bland.
10 years ago you would have said "this is so NOT epic lulz!!"
>Your opinion is emotional.
And words are made up of letters.
I just think it's funny how the average consumer's opinion on Bethesda flipped upside down in a couple of weeks because that's what the youtubers told them to do. And you have the same opinion as those domesticated animals. How peculiar...
I just think it's strange how people have such visceral emotional responses to the existence of a video game that they don't like. Do people act like this about TV shows and movies too? Like it's a deep, personal insult for someone to make something that they don't like?
>Like it's a deep, personal insult for someone to make something that they don't like
It is worse than that.
>Pretending Ganker hasn't been shitting on Bethesda for over 15 years.
Do you not remember when New Vegas came out? Or Skyrim? Were you even born yet?
Ganker always b***hes about the newest Bethesda game but loves the oldest one. When Oblivion came out, it was REPUGNANT SHIT AND VOMIT until Skyrim came out, and then it was good. Fallout 3 LITERALLY RAPED AND KILLED MY MOTHER until Fallout 4 came out, and so on. Just wait, when Starfield 2 comes out in 10 years, Ganker will love Starfield 1.
I thought most people on Ganker thought Oblivion and Fallout 3 were still shit, F4/76 are just even worse.
Ganker absolutely turned around on Skyrim, but a lot of that was mods.
I enjoy Oblivion, but that doesn’t mean I will ever go to bat for its hideous, glaring mechanical flaws that I am compelled to mod out.
>Do people act like this about TV shows and movies too?
Are you being ironic right now because they absolutely do.
Stop making shit games, troony
>Do people act like this about TV shows and movies too? Like it's a deep, personal insult for someone to make something that they don't like?
The star wars comparison
goes further than TLJ and dunking on Rian Johnson too. When TPM came out a good amount of SW fans were pissed. Like unbelievably angry. People were writing songs about how Lucas raped their childhoods and singing it in the streets. To this day they hold their grudge and actively try to discredit George Lucas for literally anything positive he could have made, such as implying Marcia Lucas saved the OG Star Wars and George is actually an oaf and Star Wars was great in spite of him, rather than because of him. Including JJ Abrams, who ousted any Lucas influence in the sequel trilogy so he could make star wars how he thinks it should be. They want to burn Lucas to the ground, all because of the prequels, because they didn't like it.
I don't think there's any video game equivalent for this amount of hatred towards a creator. Even DmC's Tameem didn't get anywhere near this amount of shit.
>it's not terrible or shit
>It is aggressively mediocre and bland
incredibly israeli post
Something boringly mediocre can be way worse than something interestingly bad. I think that's why everyone reacted to starfield the way they did, has anyone seen anyone say one good thing about the characters or setting? It's ignored entirely as far as I can see.
terrible and shit are not the same thing as being boring or bland, you child. you emotional fricking child. everything is either AWESOME or SHIT in your mind, you are a binary thinker, which is indicative of low IQ.
>you'd think it was the worst game ever
Almost like it literally freaking is
In Starfield's defense, it is the least buggy game that Bethesda has ever released, so that's something at least.
It's also the least soulful game they've ever released. Congrats on Bethesda for finishing a game at launch for once, but Starfield is a game that feels made without any passion or joy, and doesn't spark any passion or joy in anyone else either. It's a game that simply exists.
The entire concept behind the game is bad. Making a realistic space game is stupid, because real space is boring. There's a reason why sci-fi if filled with crazy shit like FTL, despite it not being realistic at all. One of the greatest strengths of Elder Scrolls and Fallout is the cool setting. Throwing that away and making it purposely boring is moronic.
Realistic space games are fine, but they require a small scope.
morons thought they had some deep space immersion on their hands, or at least convinced themselves they did. In reality, planet-to-planet panning transitions from fricking Andromeda are much more soulful than Bethesda's bells and whistles of trying to cover up loading screens.
Realistic is a misnomer because despite all of Todd's claims that Starfield has a hard sci-fi setting, it really doesn't. Your space powers and the Unity bullshit are pretty much fricking space magic. They didn't even try to mine interesting mechanics out of the "realistic" setting in any way, even though Todd confirmed they were more of a thing during development, but they "nerfed the hell out of them". The only reason I can think of why Bethesda would do that is because they were too afraid that it'd put off casuals.
But I won't lie, the boring "realistic" setting definitely is the game's biggest problem. Bethesda fans can tolerate a lot, but not a boring setting. TES and Fallout sure as shit don't sell themselves on their great gameplay or writing (anymore), but on their fantastic vistas and interesting worlds. Take that away and replace them with samey planets with awful procedurally generated content and you have Starfield, a game nobody could ever love.
>nerfed the hell out of them
My headcanon for these nerfs, is that they where originally just 1:1 copy pasted from Skyrim.
Nah, Todd already went into it in an interview:
>As Howard described it, “The way the environmental damage works in the game on planets and on your suit, you have resistances to certain types of atmosphere effects, whether that’s radiation or thermal, etc.”
>He went on to call it “a pretty complex system” and “very punitive, where you get these afflictions.”
>“At the end of the day, it was a complicated system for players to understand,” Howard said “we just nerfed the hell out of it.” Now, afflictions “matter more in flavor” rather than actually hindering game progress or making things more challenging.
I can't tell you whether this would've fixed the game but it at least wouldn't be way less fricking boring to explore.
It's so strange, because they got a M rating for drug and sex references anyway. Makes you wonder why they bothered to remove the gore in the first place.
Ship fuel and various resources were originally supposed to be a thing too, which would have made it actually useful to build various resource generating outposts so you could explore further into the unsettled parts of the stars. But that was also too complicated and offputting apparently.
poor Todd, they castrated his dream game for money, and it didn't even work.
Does it matter when the dream sucked? Limited fuel does not make sense in a Bethesda game. It would require a change of formula, which they will inevitably frick up.
Their recent games have had survival modes which required various resources in order to explore. it wouldn't be that different. Maybe they'll also add a "survival" mode to Starfield eventually.
Shit. Survival mode is the best thing about Fallout 4, and I say that as someone who hates the game. It gives all the random settlements an actual purpose and makes free vertibird rides a very enticing incentive to joining the BoS.
I am confused. Didn't you talk about how the "not dragon shouts" was nerfed? Now you are talking about the environmental hazards?
I was talking about interesting mechanics you could mine out of a realistic sci-fi setting. I didn't bring up environmental hazards specifically cause I thought it was obvious what I meant from context, my bad. But yeah, that's what I was initially talking about. They were initially a thing during development until the big nerf.
What were Todd's ideas for Starfield even? He kept hyping it up as the game he wanted to make for decades but never said much beyond "I wanna make a space game called Starfield"
>What were Todd's ideas for Starfield even?
Space Daggerfall.
Fitting because Starfield's procedural generation is absolutely primitive. Although Daggerfall's dungeons were different from each other and had enemies in different spawn locations, while Starfield just recycles locations without even changing up the enemies' spawn locations, so good job Bethesda
My conspiracy headcanon is that procgen dungeons were in the works, got ripped out, and what would have been handplaced locations got fed into the procgen POI meatgrinder.
No. From what the Xedit programmer Discord says it's not even possible for Bethesda to make real time randomized dungeon maps. It would make the navmesh innavigable for NPCs.
They can't generate navmeshes or just use real time pathfinding? Other games with procedural content figured this shit out somehow
Apparently not, the way the netimmerse shit that's been in there for 20 years still works it all has to be pre-baked in.
>I watched a youtube video of daggerflal unity and it's my turn to pretend daggerfall dungeons were good instead of broken garbage
I didn't say they were good, but they were more varied than Starfield's literal recycled locations. They didn't even change the enemy spawn locations per planet, how completely pathetic is that? $400 million budget, 500 devs and 7 years in the making. No excuse.
Pointless since the skill progression system is beyond shit , limiting your exploration ability
>The only reason I can think of why Bethesda would do that is because they were too afraid that it'd put off casuals.
More likely that Microsoft wanted to ensure that the game was profitable and had as wide a potential consumer base as possible, which is why there is absolutely nothing even remotely offensive or edgy in the entire game. Fallout 4 and even fricking Skyrim were far more edgy.
It's so obviously a matter of tone. A sci-fi story about exploration and discovery isn't going to have people exploding into red mist when they get shot in the head. But you and other people like you seem to be too autistic to get that.
but they took out the exploration and discovery too, and instead made everything sterile and accessible.
Complete non sequitur from what I was talking about. Again, you're too autistic to understand.
The game is going for a specific tone. People blowing up into blood and guts does not fit in the tone they were going for.
I'm not asking for hyper gore, brutality, rape, and slavery. Not expecting Hatred or some porn game. The point is that it's a PG13 game b***h
Only because Microsoft threw a lot their QA at it because they wanted Starfield to be their flagship game.
well unfortunately they also cut its balls off in the process.
Imagine just handing someone uncooked chicken and saying "at least I didn't burn it!"
I could've given you this plate of shit instead you better be grateful
no bugs = no soul
see NV: shitton of bugs, plenty of soul and beloved
I did see this video, but without a background on anything. Just popped in "my feed".
I'm a bit of a bad game connoisseur myself (just copped Burning Solder on 3DO). And this goes way back right, I was always "sort by - lowest first", in fact some of my favorite memories in college are tied to Xbox 360 D Tier efforts with the boys.
Am I really doing that much damage? The mid tier stuff just aggrivates me. Go bad or go big basically.
No, this is normal. Most people hate boring, empty media more than bad media.
Starfield is alright. It has some good systems and cool gameplay loops like boarding enemy ships.
The world feels too procgen and the amount of loading screens + uselessness of the ship are huge problems without touching on the boring main quest and faction.
Alright is different from good though.
I think a better descriptor might be 'functional.'
Starfield functions on a technical level. It has some cool ideas. It doesn't look fun or sound interesting though, and any time I try and check out footage for it I'm bored to tears. As a game, a vehicle for entertainment, it looks bad. As a technical project it works.
Just say it's too barebones. Everyone is on the same page that it needs more.
A true American legend.
Barebones isn't the right word, though. It needs more engaging writing, but would you call a lack of that barebones?
Yes. Games back then were usually made with a technological aspect in mind first and foremost due to the rapid growth of tech, everything else would've been added on to make it more presentable. So for it to not even make it past that stage, it's barebones.
>It needs more engaging writing
I cannot fathom how anyone comes to this conclusion. Bethesda games live or die on dungeon crawling, not writing. Even if the writing was amazing, if the game used that godawful POI system it would still be bad. If exploring was fun, the writing could be shit and no one would care. Evidence: every previous fricking game Bethesda made. They never had good writing.
That too, everyone likes generic fantasy, space is niche, especially if it doesn't have rubber forehead aliens or lightsabers. Pretty based of Todd to just make the game he wanted though. Not like he didn't earn the right to do that after all this time.
>>I cannot fathom how anyone comes to this conclusion
It was just an example, like obviously the game has way bigger flaws than that
>Bethesda games live or die on dungeon crawling
Then why is Morrowind better than Daggerfall?
because daggerfal's dungeons are just procedurally generated slop
that video was a banger, he is rightly calling out the anti-bethesda content mills and their hypocrisy
Isn't this the moron that said megaton's food source was a handful of mole rats sitting outside town?
You're thinking of Many A True Nerd. This one is from NeverKnowsBest.
>Only shows three particular points of Emil's speech where he's fairly reasonable
>doesn't show Emil's actual conclusions from said points, which are obnoxiously bad and often feel frustratingly nonsensical in the context of the games referenced
my man just get to the point
people are slamming emil and blaming him for absolutely everything unfairly and and even if it was fair the critique is out of proportion. you don't need two hours for this
He needs it to be two hours to get paid and to make it hard to comprehensively show that his argument is shit.
Same reason Patrician stretched his very few thoughts on Outer Worlds out for two hours and kept inserting random political ad hominem each time he almost praised it.
>thinking he's talking about poorly-structured criticism when he says "bad criticism"
lmao
TLDR: redditors are moronic
I already knew the video creator was a moron
FIGHT
FIGHT
FIGHT
moron FIGHT
This dude's been running defense for Starfield for months. Terrible arguments each time, too. Is he paid or just stupid?
Has he, what are the arguments he made?
Last video was "shoveleware is less functional than Starfield, therefore Starfield is not that bad" along with waffling about psychology and going into the much more sympathetic situation behind Daedlic and Gollum.
>Benchmarking what is a bad game
That sounds very reasonable, what's the problem here?
>Internet policing people on what is an acceptable opinion and what counts as more or less contemptible is very reasonable.
Oh shut up. By the guy's own logic Fallout New Vegas and Morrowind are worse than Starfield because they have more bugs and gameplay issues. It's fine if he likes it, but the video is mostly about trying to convince people that you have to be a liar to have different values than he does.
There's a segment where he rolls video titles over the screen and asks if the audience thinks these are real/reasonable opinions. Titles include things like "Bethesda has a writing problem" and "My biggest Bethesda disappointment." There's some engagement bait in there, but he frames pretty reasonable criticism as lies peddled to game the algorithm.
He's comparing games that released in the same year though, not in previous years. It's called a benchmark for a reason.
You'd have a point if the video was actually discussing how people gauge games instead of pretending there's an objective answer to quality while dismissing even some pretty mild criticisms as disingenuous.
Either you're as stupid as he is or you're also full of shit.
You sound very emotional and not at all reasonable by understanding what benchmarking is to compare what is in fact a bad game versus what is a disappointing game.
>You sound emotional.
No, I just recognize bullshitters when I see them.
There's no objective standard for what a good or bad game is. Implying other essayists are liars for having different opinions than you is childish. The guy's three consecutive videos deep on defending Starfield's honor and tried to bury the lead on one of them.
When you're reverting to putting words into others mouths that weren't said, you are in fact too emotionally invested over what amounts to electronic entertainment.
If youre going to post about your video on Ganker you should at least buy an ad first.
Why are you so emotionally invested?
Why do you keep deflecting from the argument? Come on, I know your game. Actually try or you aren't getting any more (You)s.
No but, why are you so emotionally invested over a game called Starfield?
Why are you so emotionally invested in calling some random homosexual emotionally invested?
why are video games the most important thing in your life?
They are not. Why can't you even see that I am not the same guy you where responding to? Are you just crippled by autism?
Just report him and move on
>reporting an anon because he isn't giving a puzzle perfect answer to schizo rambling
Holy frick has this place turned into reddit.
Report him for dishonest arguing and ad hominem, you moron. Rule 3a.
this is a video game forum not an academic debate forum you autistic Black person
doesnt mean you can act like a homosexual
That kind of thinking is what allowed /misc/ and /qa/ to ruin this site
>He said words that didn't match my questioning so he needs banning
Frick me has this place gone downhill, filled with thin skinned easily offended homosexuals. 2016 with the influx of tourists and phone homosexualry it's never been the same.
If you are offended by the notion that the rules should be enforced, you are the problem
that's what Ganker has always been about, following the rules. we need to return to tradition.
Strict rule adherence only here, we can not have any deviation of the strict rules set in stone. Rules are rules.
Please stop taking the bait.
>Doubled down, refuses to engage.
Got it.
No more (You)s. Hopefully you'll snag another.
You were unable to explain why your heart is racing over the idea of Starfield being mediocre and not the worst game of all time.
It's electronic entertainment, get some perspective.
>benchmarking
Saying that someone who gets to eat once a week is eating well since he at least isn't only eating once every two weeks is a shit argument.
Yes it's a shitty food analogy. You gets answers based on the effort you put in.
>But what about OTHER GAME???
The classic defense of a coping fanboy.
He made a full-throated defense video for fallout 3 where he spent a lot of time b***hing about other games and whining about other people's criticisms of the game. He's almost certainly stupid, or at least he has some obsessive need to defend bethesda no matter what.
he admits in this video that he has a strong dislike of dogpiling so it probably does come from an at least somewhat contrarian/sympathetic place
saying starfield is an "ok 7/10 what you'd expect from bethesda" is something i'd pretty firmly disagree with. a 7/10 is something like atomic heart, a game that has serviceable shooting and an experimental idea or two but is weak in a lot of other fields. starfield runs poorly, doesn't look great, has the same "was this written by an alien?" plot moments as FO3, has bad shooting by modern standards, has bad space combat, doesn't have the open-ended exploration that causes people to appreciate bethesda's games in the first place, in exchange for factional questlines that are better than you'd expect from Bethesda which I'm not sure is a good trade because everyone expects dogshit questlines from Bethesda but their exploration to be great, and in this game their exploration sucks and their questlines are mediocre. I might honestly give it like a 6.5 in its current state. why not just play a better crpg. or an older bethesda game.
>"ok 7/10 what you'd expect from bethesda"
The fact that people unironically say this is kind of baffling to me. Fallout 3, 4, Oblivion, and Skyrim were all games with massive cultural impact and influence on game design in general. In my eyes, Bethesda wasn't just some annual slop factory like Ubisoft; instead, they took their time with games, releasing one huge game every few years. Whenever they released a game, it was seen as a HUGE deal, and their brand actually meant something as a result. To see it's defenders try to spin it as "just another average Bethesda game", seems blind to their over-a-decade-long reputation, and just comes across as gaslighting.
Starfield is objectively better than vanilla Skyrim and Fallout 4 in virtually every way.
Do tell me the ways in which the story is objectively better. If you can mention even 1 thing I will be impressed.
I did say virtually. Main story is meh. Constellation sucks but the Starborn are good. I like the NG+ integration into the story. It's more interesting and impactful than anything done in the main plots of Skyrim and Fallout 4.
Faction quests are outright better though, or otherwise on par. Because Skyrim and Fallout 4's have ass writing too. All the Skyrim guilds are basically incomparable to the Crimson Fleet questline.
You have yet to mention a single objective fact. Try again.
Morrowind is literally better
It really isnt, and I dont even like Fallout 4
Bethesda games were popular because they were unique in sheer scope and openness. They still are, kinda. But ever since W3 I think the formula got supplanted in terms of mass appeal. Normalgays don't care about the open-ended and simulation elements that Bethesda games have, when compared to games like W3 or BG3 with stronger narratives, better animations/VA, and so on. They always wanted "cinematic" and production values.
Bethesda games were popular because there was nothing better, now there is. Bethesda's formula is now more of a niche thing for people who want open-ended exploration-focused dungeon crawlers where narrative is an afterthought.
IMO the only thing Starfield did wrong is fricking up the exploration and dungeon crawling, everything else people are complaining about with writing and jank was expected. But I don't think Bethesda games are ever going to be as popular as they used to be.
Bethesda has been trending for the cinematic ever since they made Oblivion, the issue is they don't have the professional capacity to keep up quality and keep dumbing it down and down in order to appeal to a broader audience. Now they have made a game with an incredibly generic setting and incredibly generic gameplay that is perfectly playable but incredibly boring and sterile.
>Bethesda has been trending for the cinematic ever since they made Oblivion
Barely. A tiny sequence where Martin turns into a dragon or the emperor dies barely counts. Oblivion, Skyrim, FO3/4, Starfield all have a few tiny cutscene segments but they are damn short, probably shorter than the on rails sections of HL1. They aren't even getting longer over time, Starfield has very few & short cutscenes. 99% of your time is exploring, either a town, dungeon or wilderness.
Compare that to Witcher 3 and you see what I mean. The standard is MUCH longer and more involved cutscenes, and MUCH more investment in them. You can make a witcher 3 or BG3 "the movie" video quite easily, try that with any Bethesda game. And this is what people are complaining about. Too little focus on narrative, animations, etc. everything that W3 style games focus on.
They remade the entirety of Cyrodil into a generic high fantasy land because of The Lord of the Rings movies, have simplified rpg elements in each successive TES game, simplified quests further and further, brought more and more focus on showcase events meant for you to sit and watch (Kvatch invasion, the ending quest in oblivion fighting Mehrunes Dagon, The first dragon fight in Skyrim, capturing that dragon in windhelm etc.). Cinematic does not just mean cutscenes it's about how they took a series that was more opaque and about roleplaying in morrowind to a more accessible and linear experience with more and more "wow" moments and focus on spectacle. Sure you can explore but the experience now is less and less about roleplaying or interactivity than it is about consuming content and making sure there's something around the player to do every five minutes. If anything, if you're going to bring up baldur's gate 3, that's way more interactable and simulation-like than anything bethesda has done in years. I don't even mean that as an insult but Bethesda's game direction is undeniably not interested in openendedness aside from an open world.
>simplified quests further and further,
Morrowind quests were never "complex"
Never said they were, just that there's been a downward trend since. It's even clear from Oblivion to Skyrim.
I bought the meme that will shen wrote far harbor, which did not have normal completely moronic bethesda writing. And that he was going to be mr starfield.
I've been to Bar Harbor and it's not like that
Different guy
This guy is usually pretty smart, he just doesn't like the nitwit youtube pile-on from people who have no real insight. But emil also does suck and has been a clear element of the dumbest bethesdaism
I empathize with hating people giving stupid criticism from "my side"
>This guy is usually pretty smart
Then why are most of his arguments awful?
Yeah, I like NeverKnowsBest's videos but I heavily disagreed with the part where he said "Starfield is typical Bethesda fare". If it were it wouldn't get all the hate.
Haven't watched the Emil video yet, but the facts of the matter are Emil is generally agreed to be bad at his job, the talk he gave was objectively bad (what writer does not know how to explain the themes of his own writing) and Bethesda has ignored every complaint about worsening writing quality since Skyrim at least (your mileage may vary where it started getting really bad of course, but I think even Skyrim fans can agree it wasn't written well for the most part). Of course that's going to make people mad.
I mean, I don't think they've changed that much from Skyrim, they've always deserved the criticism that Starfield's writing got and the scrutiny of their general writing MO that the emil pile-on is poorly trying to get at. The absence of that criticism back in the days when Bethesda for various reasons got a free pass isn't a reason not to do it now.
The writing is being criticized now because Starfield lacks the appeal that previous Bethesda games have, so there's nothing to distract from it. Bad writing is tolerable if your setting is interesting. If it's boring then it's going to stand out.
I think the world building from earlier games and exploration has carried Bethesda for their last few games. Since Starfield doesn't have those parts people have realised how bad the other parts of their games are and how bad the Bethesda of today is at writing any thing by themselves.
>I don't think they've changed that much from Skyrim
Fallout 4's writing was so aggressively bad that even the people who either didn't care about or didn't notice bethesda's poor writing in their previous games were highly critical of it. It also coincided with bethesda strip mining many of the things that made their games popular in the first place & the advent of new vegas made their fans aware of how lacking their writing was so it became that much harder to ignore but still, 4 was basically a greatest hits of every bad story design from their previous games with severe railroading of the player. I haven't played starfield so I can't comment on that but 4 was a noticeable downgrade even compared to skyrim.
Skyrim's main quest was still completely functional writing at least. You can complain about retcons and stuff but at least one thing leads to the next and factions and so make some kind of sense in the setting. The stuff with the underground science people in fallout 4 is where they got comfortable with letting their third tier faction writing quality like the Skyrim magic school quest line be front and center again.
Exactly, you could go through basically the entire game accepting everything at face value with minimal dissonance but with FO4 it's like they went out of their way to get you asking questions then when the time came baited you to ask even more questions about & rubbed the dissonance in your face then just ends without answering anything & having no pay off whatsoever.
>shaun: I know it looks bad but I swear it's not actually like that, go look around
>*finds even more things that make the institute look bad*
>shaun: I have a mysterious disease that I won't say what it is that will kill me so I don't have to answer any of your questions, btw I want you to become the ruler of this faction even though you've only been here for 5 minutes & nobody else wants this
It soooo bad, it's insulting.
Neverknowsbest constantly shits on bethesda games. Are you really misconstruing 'more of the same' as praise?
He is now defending Emil because of a reddit post.
Defending Emil isn't defending Starfield.
That was the previous video.
He's been defending Starfield since it launched. Don't ask me why.
His video before this was corporate brown nosing as well
>s-stop attacking developers of bad games, goy!
imagine attacking another human being because they made something that you didn't like. Just close your eyes Black person lol just turn off the computer lmao just don't play it haha just log off dumbass rofl
Stop making shitty games, Sanjay
stop playing them then
Never installed neither f76 nor Starfield
>attacking another human being because they made something that you didn't like
Femoid hands typed this out
femoids don't say Black person. they say nog or nignog
They were emulating "brospeak" in the second part of their post, so it connects.
Bootlickers arent human
Don't play with my money you lying piece of shit
You're talking about a digital toy.
Black person makes long videos too, not 8 hours long, but still. And yet he had no """professional"""" youtube """analyst""" curtesy to even watch Patrician's whole video to see where exactly the "No design document" argument is reflected? Settling with just arguing autistic semantics? Where he both acknowledges that Patrician knows there is a document but it's just not updated beyond the initial concept which is the core problem but still still pretends it's his no nuance position?
Knowing how much of a sperg Patrician is, this will hopefully get under his skin, and we will have a good old youtube slapfight. He straight-up insinuates and plagiarizes at the end of his section too.
>Knowing how much of a sperg Patrician is, this will hopefully get under his skin, and we will have a good old youtube slapfight. He straight-up insinuates and plagiarizes at the end of his section too.
What I'm hoping for. Just here for the amusement.
He's just going with Emil's take on Twitter.
>Knowing how much of a sperg Patrician is, this will hopefully get under his skin, and we will have a good old youtube slapfight
Let's hope this turns into another 10+ hours autistic examination of everything the other gay said in his video
>Patrician was sure to watch NKB full Skyrim video
>NKB isn't moronic enough to waste his time on more than 3h of his life on shit Pat content
You just know Pat will sperg out like the homosexual he is
>And yet he had no """professional"""" youtube """analyst""" curtesy to even watch Patrician's whole video to see where exactly the "No design document" argument is reflected?
he did point out multiple times where he tried to bring up the "no design document", but it literally reads off as him using his own inconclusive and lacking evidence to explain why something is the way it is, usually missing the mark a second time. he even literally says in his video that THERE IS A DESIGN DOCUMENT, but does not ellaborate on it further, he just mentions there is a design document, and then spends 7.99hrs using his false conclusion to explain his dumb reasoning
also because i know pat is reading this, you're a homosexual and you're going to hell, while emil's a devout christian. cope and seethe.
What's his magnum opus of writing?
His diet plan
Frick, should have called it Diet Design Document.
Judging by how spergy he is in interviews and web calls it's just drugs and psychostimulants.
His two weeks notice would be a smash hit.
Thief level designs. He should have stayed as level designers instead of writer.
>video is 2 hours long
>came out 1 hour ago
>already getting disliked bombed
You only need a minute of listening to know he's an absolute homosexual.
If half of the video is bad, the other half being flawless won't save it. 50% is still a failing grade
only a fifth of them hate it tho, and 80 is a passing grade
So it's not being dislike bombed then.
>You have to watch the whole thing and give me ad revenue!
If you say something stupid enough, I dislike and close the tab. Deal with it.
>he doesn't watch videos at 2x speed
Do you even respect your own time?
I disliked it and won't even watch it. Frick you and frick NKB kek
PatricianTVbros we're being called out....
>PatricianTVbros
How embarrassing.
You can already see the rot seeping in with Morrowind's DLC, we're lucky he moved on and the modders moved in
What's wrong with Bloodmoon?
The story is proto-Skyrim. The map is full of overleveled neverending enemy encounters. The dungeons are either boring or have awful forced puzzles.
>The story was proto-Skyrim.
I guess, but it worked well enough imo. Hircine duel felt justified after all that happened in Morrowind.
How do you feel about TR and PT?
Tribunal was proto-Oblivion. Closed-off "outdoor" environment, endless dungeon crawls, unpickable plot doors, invincible unreachable NPCs, etc. Never played Tamriel Rebuilt, but a lack of content is not Morrowind's problem.
I agree more with your assessment on Tribunal than Bloodmoon, tbh.
>a lack of content is not Morrowind's problem
I would say it is, but only in the sense that there's a ton of copy paste shit. Most of the mods I use when replaying add more dialogue variants and rework copy pasted content like ancestral tombs/strongholds/bad dungeons/etc.
if as many as 2 people agree your shit sucks, they arent HATERZ. Take the criticism and move the frick on
>guys lets be objective here
>yeah so [sympathetic assumption, sympathetic assumption, sympathetic assumption]
contrarians like this are so cringe.
He likes pretending his opinions are law.
He must post on Ganker then.
how the frick did you gays watch this whole thing when it hasn't been out for even an hour
I didn't.
I love Starfield and think it's a great game but it's clear that it would have been way better without Emil on it. Emil is total trash and needs to be fired already.
Completely reasonable. I think it's awful but I respect your opinion. I don't think Emil needs to be fired, but Bethesda needs to rework how they design and write content.
No, he needs to be fired, Bethesda has a major seniority problem where the majority of their veteran staff are complacent, resistant to adapting and learning, and most think theyre hot shit like Emil
Emil would be best relegated to designing like a single, in-depth faction questline.
I'm starting to doubt that myself. He said he did the Freestar collective's faction quest which is the WORST faction quest in Starfield because you just fly around and talk to people and the way it ends is moronic. Then people say he did the crimson fleet faction quest which was actually pretty cool and fun.
Honestly the man should just hire multiple writers and let them do the work and I would hate Emil less.
Emil was fine as a quest designer. The problem is him being promoted to positions above his capabilities.
He definitely shouldn't be in charge of writing or directing anything.
Emil outed himself as a midwit at best, a potato at worst in front of his industry colleagues. He said shit that no one would ever say in public unless they were extremely intoxicated. Any one who defends Emil is the worst kind of nut rider.
>Superman fails as a hero.
What a moron.
fallout 3 is the only reason the entire dumbass series is popular to begin with
same with oblivion.
TES dies with the morrowind mindset.
Bethesda's whole success is accidentally being super successful with casual normalgay """nerds""".
TES is done as far as I'm concerned, whatever happens after skyrim is israeli fanfic
Todd's lawyer has spoken
I mean, he is right, he and a few others have been shitting on emil for years now, and only after starfield did normalgays wake up
I like that dude, he's at least honest about his thoughts on each title rather than playing this weird factionalism game the fanbase seems to do
A simple bit of context for why the Copenhagan speech landed so badly: Fallout 4 was at that time in the midst of an online backlash from fans, many of whom had wanted another New Vegas. Instead, they got a game that seemed much shallower in terms of its story, focusing on things like radiant quests and settlement building. Pagliarulo's speech appeared, fairly or not, to many to confirm that the developers ignored using New Vegas as a template for the next game in the series and instead just aggressively simplified the game. The occasionally flippant tone of the speech didn't help. This wasn't just the No Mutants Allowed crowd, by the way. The reddit post was endorsed mostly by players who began the series with Fallout 3, then moved on to New Vegas when it was released and wanted more of that. Pagliarulo gave those frustrated fans a public face to make a target for their ire.
Suck my balls
>all these people discussing the same strange shit like design documents
All these rabid homosexuals, both for and against Starfield, need to go outside. They are spending way too much time absorbing the opinions of other people on youtube. Complaints about the lack of variety in planets and locations on them makes sense, because that's something that anyone who played the game would notice by themselves. But all this other obscure shit, nobody would even know if they didn't hear it from some homosexual on youtube. It's a frickin video game, it's not that big of a deal.
That's nice dear
you have parasocial relationships with people online. it's worse than having an internet girlfriend because at least you could talk to them and they'd send you pictures sometimes.
That's nice dear
Frick off
I honestly do not understand Todd's obsession with radiant quests. Daggerfall had them, and they were awful. I don't think they were anybody's selling point.
I like them. And I can't wait for TES6 to be Daggerfall 2.
"""Infinite content""" I guess? I dunno. They're pretty shit and boring, but I suppose bethesda's hand-made quests aren't terribly etter
It's part of that fetish for big games modern Bethesda has. Back in the day it was a necessity, but they rightfully stopped using procedural content with Morrowind cause they had the budget to make actual engaging hand-crafted content now. Something about Skyrim has warped the company though, it needed to be so big and infinitely playable.
>but they rightfully stopped using procedural content with Morrowind cause they had the budget to make actual engaging hand-crafted content now.
What happened was quite literally the opposite. They were almost bankrupt and couldn't make another game as big as Daggerfall and thus changed the scope.
Ever since then they've been trying to return to Daggerfall.
>bethesda didnt have the budget to make bad games so they made good ones for a brief while until they could get back to more procedural garbage
I am starting to get sad.
It was literally a fluke. Tragic.
Lazyness, Bethesdas most glaring flaw is that lazyness infects their entire studio
If used well radiant quests could've enhanced a faction by being used as 'menial work's in-between actual major quests. Not every job for a guild will be a world changing event, sometimes you're just told to go kill some rats or clear a bandit outpost that's affecting trade routes and that's fine. The problem is that the game doesn't force you to do more radiant quests in-between important scripted main guild quests.
>just finished guild stage 2 quest
>next quest stage
>objective: complete 5 radiant contracts and increase One/Two Handed, Light/Heavy Armor and Block/Smithing to level 40 to prove your ability
There, fixed The Companions. Fixed all the guilds, in fact. The problem isn't that Skyrim has radiant quests, it's that you only need to complete one (1) to go from a Companions newbie to the only person outside the Circle that knows about the top brass being Werewolves and is invited to join in.
Why would you force the player to do bad quests? They avoid it precisely because players don't like it. Being frustrating on purpose is not admirable.
They're not bad per se
They're busy work, where you get to flex your gameplay skills and character stats
A degree of menial tasks are to be expected for a guild Journeyman
Because part of being the new guy in a guild is being stuck with the shit quests. No one thought killing rats in Balmora was a defining hero moment, but it was necessary grunt work that made Morrowind all the better for it. Your first handful of quests for the Companions should absolutely all be based around basic stuff like "go here and deal with a wild wolf that's been killing the farmer's cattle" before things escalate. Becoming a Werewolf and avenging Skjor an hour after joining the faction is beyond moronic. You should work for the privilege of ranking up and becoming a veteran warrior.
>Why would you force the player to do bad quests
NTA but if you were actually a member of a guild that's part of the world and has some way of sustaining itself, you wouldn't be constantly sent to solve massive problems the day you joined. And radiant content isn't necessarily going to be "bad" as long as it's integrated well and sends you to interesting locations to complete varied objectives.
Cause he's a fricking moron.
They're cheap to make. That's it.
Ganker is not meant for shilling your 2-hour-long youtube essays, dipshit.
>starfield haters lying about the game
Nothing new here.
why yes, i will watch another 2 hour video that is critical of slopfield
Why yes I will re-rewatch patrician's starfield video
Emil isn't blameless but acting like he's the sole reason starfield ended up bad is just blind to the fact that it's the culmination of bethesda's decisions over the years.
My biggest problem with him is his dogshit writing. If the stories and setting were good there might have been something to salvage here but no.
I agree his writing is bad, but it isn't just him writing. Generally Bethesda has relied a lot on established settings, and yeah starfield shows that they are unable to effectively make an interesting new setting, and that isn't just the narrative lead but the whole team.
Emil is literally the head writer. He's absolutely the one to blame for the game's shit writing.
Do you think emil personally wrote the entirety of the dialog and setting? Of course not, there's other people and bethesda has had shitty writing well before emil was lead writer on anything.
As lead writer he's still responsible for the quality of the writing, isn't he? All that shit has to go through him
He's responsible for overall direction, they don't run by every little bit of dialogue past him for obvious reasons and there is so much in starfield that is bland and bad that has nothing to do with him (like most of the art design). Again you can't say he had little or nothing to do with it but there's something institutional going on that finally fricked up enough where they can't rely on the goodwill of decades old franchises.
>you can't say he had little or nothing to do with it but there's something institutional going on that finally fricked up enough where they can't rely on the goodwill of decades old franchises
Yeah I know, Emil is more like a symptom than the disease. I do put a large part of the blame on the shitty writing on him, because it's still his job to hire good writers, but the problem in general is that Bethesda is just a game developer filled with incompetent boobs, and I'm talking much more than the industry average. They used to get by through the power of charm and novelty, but it's been decades since Oblivion. The charm isn't there anymore and the novelty is long gone because they've failed to evolve their gameplay in any meaningful way. Arguably, Starfield was a regression, They simply can't evolve because this is the only way Bethesda knows how to make games, to fix this problem would require shutting down the studio and starting over and good luck convincing MS to do that. It's only gonna get worse as their games fall more behind the competition over time.
What's up, NNB?
Emil is the leader, its his responsibility. If he knew the writers under him were screwing up he was supposed to correct their work. If there were no good writers, was his job to hire some. He was in control of the writing and the writing is bad. Its his failure.
You don't seem to get it, I'm not saying he isn't in part responsible, i'm just saying it's more than him.
Yes those above him are also to blame.
those in the whole studio, they've been doing bad writing forever.
he didn't personally write everything, but if he's gonna take the credit of lead writer he gets to take the blame when the writing's bad.
Lol this is a classic upper-management defense in like every industry
>Thing you managed is good/successful
"All thanks to me and my wonderful team :)"
>Thing you managed is bad/unsuccessful
"Wtf do you think I was doing all of it? It's my dumbass team's fault >:("
Read it again man i'm not excusing emil, he's just not the end of it. Anything bad in starfield has had precedence in the last two decades of bethesda games.
He is leader in project, which means he has to document development and changes of project, and make sure to hire competent writers who wouldn't flake out and make sure everything works out well. He didn't bother doing any of it.
He is just a fricking obnoxious loser with Todd backing him.
He's part of a company culture that promotes a very boring and rigid style. The same issues permeate the art and game design departments. Todd famously does have a system where he keep buddy high up though, I remember the animation guy was some dude he knew in school and the quality of animation has never been good in bethesda.
You know, you convinced me that fo4 and starfield stories are not that bad
this guy complains about people being "negative" about the state of the vidya industry and said that 2023 was the best year ever in gaming
embarassing
>Creetosis becomes a moronic furry vtuber
Man it's such a bad look for situations like this
>clip of his livestream
>they're all troony furries
Ah of course
>I didn't want to make this video
>But this video had to be made
The most pretentious shit that a fricking video game essayist on youtube can possibly say holy shit.
2 HOUUURS
Starfield is the same game they've always made and Bethesda is too stuck in their ways. Until they make something truly new they'll always be lagging behind the competition.
That's why they shouldn't have changed anything or tried a new IP and just made Skyrim 2 again.
I watched about fifty seconds of this and my God, why the FRICK can't these people ever not sound like they just had to have their dog put down three days prior.
Just the mopiest fricking slow-talking motherfricker. c**t sounds like the Simpson's Electric Car.
>pic related
I loved that gag
Argues about other ecelebs too much. Loke his videos generally. Although mainly his CRPG videos. Which he hasn't made any in awhile.
I haven't watched this video, but I tried watching the dude with the dude who made the ones explicitly shitting on Emil and he was kind of giving me idiot vibes. Patrician's video was good though.
*I tried watching the dude who made
You mean creetosis? He's kinda hit or miss. He can make good points, but he can also be really obnoxious and nitpicky. His saints row review has a noticeable amount of the latter, for example.
Yeah him. I would agree with him for a while until he started nitpicking something extremely insignificant and getting into that "angry" youtuber persona I know and hate.
Creetosis is weird case. He has lots of good takes but he also often ends up rambling or cherry picking real quick, just like Ganker basically.
Talked like a troony, based off the few clips.
bethesda's writing is the least of their problems, their games are made with fricking sticks and glue and play and look awful
>NeverKnowsBest is doing drama homosexualry now
*Sigh*... the last decent gaming critic still active is now dead.
Why is this whole video genre filled with so many fricking with dogshit creators?
TehSnakerer is still good. I used to watch MatthewMatosis and Running Shine too but yeah those are pretty dead
>TehSnakerer streams the beginning of Watch Dogs Legion
>one of the random Operatives he can start the game with has the "Transgender" trait
>one of the live comments makes a joke about it
>"oof yeah, we don't do that here sorry"
He's dead, Jim
so tired of these children who feel the need to aggressively share the opinions they copied from random homosexuals on youtube. They're not even just machines, they're just repeaters. No processing goes on in their brains, they just hear something and then they repeat that thing endlessly until they get some new update, some new thing to repeat.
They pick some random person on the internet, watch their videos, and then post that same shit here. They don't even play video games, they just watch other people play video games. The ultimate consumer. The ultimate slave.
Never heard of him
The best year for gaming is the current year, because you have access to all games made before it. If you like SNES games the best, nothing is stopping you from playing them right now.
I have no clue who he is but the info in his video is right and the largest issue with a lot of the game reviewers is that they have 0 clue how game development works and they just assume frick ton of it. I'm a game dev and the number of times I've had someone who has never made a game tell me how to make my game is uncountable.
That said Emil is a bad writer. What's happening here is that his writing is pissing people off and those people are looking for anything they can use against him.
Exactly.
>I'm a game dev and the number of times I've had someone who has never made a game tell me how to make my game is uncountable
God I know what you mean.
>this 2000 dollar budget indie game is good but why is there no online multiplayer or minigames?
Why do you think? Frick me.
Yeah, and you can see that happening with his speech. The greatest tool a developer has is critical review/play testing, so yes good games are 'played' not 'made'. You can really only truly understand the power of this statement and exactly what he means if you produced a large enough game for people to play and give you feedback on and you correctly applied changes.
Full Metal Alchemist is a great story and a lot of the writer's style and substance comes from her real-life experiences. (as an example)
>this 2000 dollar budget indie game is good but why is there no online multiplayer or minigames?
>Why do you think? Frick me.
I fricking hate these with a passion. Or when people go oh why don't you make everything yourself? or why are you paying that much for models and art. Like go find me a studio then, go learn how to write art briefs, discuss contracts, and work with artists.
>>I fricking hate these with a passion. Or when people go oh why don't you make everything yourself? or why are you paying that much for models and art
Thanks now I feel like hitting my head against a wall again
>NKB
>MMOslop enjoyer
>defending Emil
Lmao. Couldn't be more fitting. The kind of boring mediocre trash Bethesda and Emil produce is right up an MMO players alley.
>my favorite youtuber insults other's favorite youtubers
KINO IS BACK
i was just watching it.
my thoughts:
>i always knew "no design document" was some dumb shit started by some influencer
>video basically spends 2hrs trying to discredit it saying how badly its reasoned
>a large focus on creetosis and patriotTV both who are this similar kind of anti bethesda content mill channels
>asserts that patricianTV copied his video
>asserts that people misrepresent emil religiously and that despite 7 years having passed since his GDC speech everyone uses as a basis for hating him, nobody has bothered to remediate the misrepresentation given to him mainly because people who hate bethesda just hate bethesda and want to be told what they like to hear
Good job regurgitating his narrative uncritically.
Does he suck off Emil in this?
wouldn't you like to know, gay boy
Yeah, I love wiener, sucking wiener, watching/hearing about wieners getting sucked. I live for this shit.
He doesns't say anything positive or negative about him
It's just a video showing how many redditors and youtubers are cattle that accept one source of information as fact.
What he does show is that many of the criticisms targeted at Emil are complete bullshit fabricated by mad morons.
So it's a big dig at Patrician then?
almost half the video is about that midwit
I like him plenty but I also like when people tee off on him.
emil is a good christian family man, he deserves to be protected from rebbit influencers
Emil is a bad writer and a fricking moron, the youtuber is also a fricking moron and a pseud.
This but for video games instead of film
Anon please don't compare Lucas with Emil, he doesn't deserve that
I was just using it for the critics part.
Lucas is the most consistently, simultaneously correct and oblivious man I have ever seen
The quote that demolished thousands of hacks everywhere.
The word you're looking for is "souless". Starfield has no soul.
I think the specific space roleplaying fantasy Starfield goes for is just too narrow and hard to sell that people don't instantly get it like they do in TES or Fallout.
I really like what it's going for. I like customizing and using my own ship. I like visiting various planets even when there's little to do there. I like the vibe of the spaceports and spacestations and tiny civilian or industrial outposts on planets. I even like the "no aliens" angle that lets the game focus on humans, though I would have liked more dungeons that utilize alien fauna. I got to do the kinds of smuggling, bounty hunting, and piracy activities that I set out to do with the character I made.
But I guess to the majority this just doesn't carry the same appeal as a generic fantasy world or post-apocalyptic setting. It needed to be a Mass Effect copycat to even get remotely close to the broad appeal TES and Fallout have. Starfield as it is is too niche in terms of setting, which stacked on top of its different exploration gameplay loop made a recipe for disaster.
But also I'm glad it got made and can't wait to see how TES6 being Daggerfall 2 pisses people off even more.
Always thought Starfields biggest weakness is the setting. Space scifi is already boring as frick. Then they make the most generic version of it possible. Had they made the same exact game but with a TES or Fallout skin. Nobody would have cared how bad the writing or gameplay was. Just like with F4 and Skyrim.
>some youtuber schmuck is in this thread religiously defending his video
NeverKnowsBest never got over Patrician poking fun at him talking about Nightgate Inn being his favorite location in Skyrim because it's mysterious, when its actually just cut content.
Why would that preclude it being mysterious?
Its so mysterious that the vast majority of players will never see it.
>"vast majority of players will never see it"
>directly involved with the Dark Brotherhood quest
Anon...
If the global achievement %s for skyrim's achievements are any indication, then that still actually might not be far from the truth.
>the majority played dark brotherhood quest up to that point
>29% of players achieved bound till death achievement
>this is the majority
Right.
The issue with the DB quest in Skyrim is that you have to sleep in a bed for them to nab you. But sleeping is mostly pointless, since you just wait in place to pass time or eat 9000 cheese wheels to regain HP.
I never got kidnapped by them because young me back on the PS3 didn't give a shit about the 10% XP bonus and never slept. I just got the 'we know' letter and didn't think anything of it for another 30 hours.
>is that you have to sleep in a bed for them to nab you.
I didn't wander over to that section of windhelm until I was actively seeking the db quest. I admit that it's possible I missed something that would've organically lead me to encounter the kid but it didn't happen in my game. I heard some of kid was trying to do the sacrament a few times over the course of several hours & then forgot about it until I decided I wanted to do it & had to wander around to find him. I then proceeded to forget about the quest thinking it'd eventually trigger & at some point I got drained status effect & was forced to sleep & it triggered it.
Its like they overreacted to oblivion giving you such easy access to the guild.
Pat is a dumb pseud homosexual.
NeverKnowsBest was clearly making a point about the strong atmosphere in Skyrim, and used a subjective experience to show how the atmosphere can affect players even when there is no "content" in the game.
Pat like the "objectivity" homosexual he is, didn't get the argument and just broke down how that area is pointless cause it has no "content"
Except that right after he shows the NeverKnowsBest clip he says that just because he includes something he doesn't mean its 100% objectively wrong and he says that NKB's arguement about worldbuilding is generally correct. He was just saying it was funny that he spent so much time talking about the location but never mentioned anything about the cut content surrounding it in his video.
They're both morons.
this crop seems rather suspect
he had 1 good vid that did well with the algo so all the morons engaged with it, but the channel itself is just morons huffing air if you look any deeper. these kinds of channels always exists, with meddling subscriber counts and one or two videos that do crazy well because they hit some kind of moron sweetspot in the algorithm.
safe to say since the guy now realizes that you can just outright lie and make up facts and get a million views thats what he probably will try to do in the future to turn his channel around.
>Emil did nothing wrong
The story and characters were supposed to be bad?
It's stylistically designed to be that way and you can't undo that.
It's amazing how fast the NPCs went from
>Bethesda makes great games! FO76 was just a fluke and not even the A-Team!
to
>Bethesda games have ALWAYS been shit, that's why they're fun!
he finishes the video by implying Patrician commited defamation against Emil
you cant make this shit up
He's so fricking handsome, i wish he was my husband even if his writing sucks.
why does this board have more nuanced and developed opinions about youtube channels than games?
Because they don't play games, they watch youtubers.
Unless you're some 1 monitor poorgay everyone does both. Thats exactly the reason these long form content channels even exist, they're 2nd monitor content
growing up with computers and the internet has really fricked up the younger generations.
>according to NKB, PatricianTV is the main reason why Bethesda is kill
how is this man so powerful????
I kneel
Power of autism
>RedLetterMedia killed Star Wars
>Mauler killed Marvel and the DCEU
>PatricianTV killed Bethesda
how do we stop these men?
Rich Evan's laugh alone can wake the dead. Nobody can stop RLM.
What's there left to kill, anyways?
Square is busy killing itself, so I dunno, Sony? MS?
So is this thread is just his pat discucks butthurt about him getting destroyed by a another big channel.
Mauler really fricked up youtube discourse forever eh? Every fricking sperg with a computer thinks they're the next great thinker of the current age so they must spread their rational ideas about video games in billion hour long videos. And the funny thing is that no one actually cares about it, 90% of the viewers just listen to this shit in the background without actually paying attention to anything besides some moments of increased audio levels.
Removing Emil would catapult Bethesda's quality into the stratosphere compared to what they're making now. He's completely incapable, everything he touches turns to shit, he ruined Starfield like he ruined Fallout 4.
It probably wouldn't hurt, at least. Maybe even just have him work on things he has some competence in.
Emil is not a singular auteur responsible for everything regarding said games and at the end of the day is having to answer to Todd, who is the actual individual with the final say in stuff that makes it into the game
it would still be garbage
>Patrician was caught paraphrasing and changing the meaning of article quotes.
damn it's unironically over for him. Why do conservatards always do this?
I mean, PatricianTV, on record in his Starfield video, says he doesn't want Elder Scrolls 6 to be made, so it's in his best interest to spin the narrative against Bethesda.
Oh so he's actually a straight up schizo or something?
He's a professional YouTuber anon, it goes without saying that he is an egotistical schizo.
I dunno about schizo but I distinctly remember something he said at the end of his morrowind video
>"Sorry if I appeared very negative this video. It's just easier to write about negatives then positives"
Something along those lines at least.
So really Patrician is a perfectionist who's hyper critical even about his most liked games. Making games up to his standards is kind of impossible.
No, he's just a Morrowind fan who knows every game afterwards was shit so he doesn't want Bethesda to shit out more.
Shit games won't hurt you Pat. You don't even have to play them. They don't retroactively change the games you like too, which might come as a shocker.
I mean I agree but a lot of his criticism in his following videos weren't that substantiated
>The companions expect me to become a werewolf?!? That's fricking stoopid! I quit the game because of it
>the skyrim dark brotherhood questline is dumb because....because it just is, ok??
like yeah mage's guild and thieves's guild suck in that game but some of his other takes are exaggerated.
You got filtered.
I will not elaborate.
Hi Patrician. Are you doing a Fallout 4 or 3 Retrospective?
https://kemono.su/patreon/user/48110168/post/96324657
Probably not any time soon especially since he said he doesn't care for post-apocalypse games
Becoming a werewolf has pretty terrible implications for your character so it's pretty reasonable to want to be afforded an option where you don't have to. The companions won't even acknowledge that it's something you might not want to do
No idea how anon could have missed his point there if he actually watched the video.
This is probably a worry specific to someone who has played Bloodmoon before.
As an Oblivionbaby, when I got to the werewolf part, I didn't question the implications because I thought
>well the game is pushing me to do this early, so there can't be any serious downsides to this ,right? And I can probably get cured like getting cured of vampirism in Oblivion.
And as it turns out I was absolutely right. It was way easier than getting cured of vampirism too.
I guess Bethesda was banking on newbies like me who wouldn't see a problem with this progression, and didn't account for morrowind players who would think twice before becoming a werewolf.
That just sounds like you're moronic and can't comprehend other people exist. I don't want to be a fricking furry.
I literally just justified why people were upset about the companions questline.
The one unable to comprehend other people existing is (you), lol.
You literally just said it must be pre existing exposure because
>I don't wanna be a furry
is too hard for you.
Considering that curing it is easy as shit then I'd classify your motive as moronic.
Not being allowed to roleplay in an "open" RPG is pretty bad. The guy complains about a lot of dumb shit to stretch the videos, but that one's reasonable.
Did he? Thought he said that he hoped his statement that "[he] doesn't think bethesda will do well with ES6" ages the poorest from his video.
he says that at the end around the same time he says that starfield is the game bethesda fans deserve, but earlier in the video he says that he hopes they never actually make es6. also when he is talking about the game engine he says he hopes they do switch engines so that the game is delayed to 2035. i just dont think he has any hope of them doing the franchise justice anymore and is mostly just complaining into the void of the internet about it.
>[PatricianTV] says he hopes they do switch engines so that the game is delayed to 2035
I understand why casual gamers used to Sony/Rockstar levels of presentation complain about the engine. But when self-proclaimed "hardcore RPG gamers" try to do it, they sort of out themselves as movie gamers. You're telling me Morrowind is an all-time classic RPG that you still prefer over Skyrim yet you're indignant because Starfield has robotic facial expressions? Could you be anymore of a fraud?
None of the mechanics these grognards claim to care about are prohibited by the engine. In fact, Creation Engine is the most hardcore thing about these games. For how much these guys b***h about choice and consequence, the sheer amount of state management embedded into CE makes it remarkably well suited for that kind of stuff. That's why New Vegas is the way it is. If you wanted to take the time to implement absurdly specific quest scenarios triggered by pickpocketing the keycards off every Freestar-aligned NPC in the game and placing them in a neat pile outside UC headquarters, you technically could. That's not something you can say about other game engines.
the people who would care about him providing valuable facts or analysis would have stopped watching him ages ago, his videos as of late are just bethesda rage content for the algorithm cattle
I genuinely cannot believe people think Starfield's writing is the most offensive thing about the game.
Youtuber thread?
The only video I watched about this game was Big Dan.
I enjoy his vids cause he seems jolly.
Anyone else agree with him?
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>Actually there is a design wiki probably so saying design decisions aren't well documented is a lie
>Everything is probably really well documented and designers constantly contradict each other because they don't bother to read all of their extensive documentation or something but they're definitely still maintaining it well
>exoneration of Emil Pagliaruro
>calling out all the gullible internet tards who got swindled by one confidence man telling them what they wanted to hear
yep, that was a banger of a video. unironically well spent 2 hours of my life.
fricking apologize to emil RIGHT NOW. this is your last chance to own up to your mistake. you tried to hurt a good, honest, based christian man.
>DIS UTUBER SAY EMIL BAD? ME HARASS HIM
>DIS UTUBER SAY EMIL GOOD? I PRAISE EMIL
people just can't form their own opinions anymore, can they?
It wasn't always like this but it's become so much worse since smart phones, and then the pandemic when everyone was bored and stuck at home.
People can't just let something go they need to attach themselves to some mob justice campaign and they think they're doing something
>I'm bringing awareness
No you're not you're just being a loud moron.
It's just Twitter users being Twitter users. That shit is literally all these people live for.
Frick Emil, think I'll go tell him mean things on Twitte-I mean "harass" him
Yts can't make games anymore, I get it
why are people still defending bethesda? Worse than cattle
Try reading, they're not defending Bethesda but also not saying it's the worse thing imaginable. Try not being some autistic homosexual who only sees the world in binary 1s and 0s.
Total Fencesitter DEATH
>it's not thaaat bad
it is
every game since skyrim has been trash
This is the same shit as people calling everyone who offends them a Nazi. Saying shit like this
"is the worst game imaginable" just loses it's meaning. Then when a game comes along that is genuinely a pile of shit, no one cares.
it's not the worst game imaginable but trash is still trash
Pat will NEVER recover.
Why does anyone still care about Skyrim?
20 Slavs with a kickstarter and a bottle of Vodka already made a better version of Skyrim with better story,quests and gameplay.
I wish they'd announce a sequel already. I don't even need to see any gameplay or screenshots, simply an announcement to say there is a game in development would make me happy.
They haven't made any announcements, but they've not-so-subtly dropped a bunch of hints that they're working on it. Probably trying to avoid building hype too early and then having to release an unfinished game like what happened with KCD1.
>Ganker is so contrarian it argues against the beliefs it had yesterday because a youtuber is b***hing about other youtubers
You love to see it. I don't care if some homosexual youtuber made shit up, I never used him as a source for why I know Emil is completely fricking worthless and a drain on the company. You gays should try thinking for yourselves.
> Ganker is one person
Yes we are one person, now shutup, me
So that's why I saw you cleaning yourself up after your mom had sucked me off. One person one mind, one coome.
thats because the entire anti starfield narrative was fed to them by the eceleb human centipede, and NKB just said the obvious and people are responding to it.
No it wasn't. People hated Starfield because it's a shitty, empty game.
I was pretty dismissive of starfield just from their own marketing and the gameplay footage they showed. All of the word of mouth and such that came after the game released basically confirmed "That game that looked bad? Yeah it was bad."
nobody "hates" a video game unless htey have massive issues IRL, and the point of the vid is more to hammer in that despite what you think, if you're an outsider it really doesn't matter because you don't know shit and secondly, going after private people because you "hated" a video game they worked on is subhuman behavior
the people who watched and parroted the "no design document" are not bethesdagays, but the literal opposite. normalgays love to pretend to hate popular things nowdays, people even dogpiled on cyberpunk despite it deserving maybe 10% of the criticisms.
>cyberdrone
jeez
Emil Pagliarulo should be beaten to death with a shovel for writing this game
>the people who watched and parroted the "no design document" are not bethesdagays
you can't say this with any real authority. i'm sure plenty of them are sour bethesdagays and it's not all outsiders, but i agree that hatemongering is popular these days and there are lots of bad actors.
why did everyone latch onto the "no design document" thing anyway
NKB has an autistic fit over it and rambles on as if it negates any and all criticism but if anything that just makes it worse, because that just means bethesda has made such a moronic disjointed slop WITH a design document(or equivalent)
the algo man reacting to it, which then gets reacted on by 5000 other reactioners, the human centipede of influencers reacting to other influencers is what drives 95% of the discussion even on this website
>Nobody "hates" a videogame
Kek is this the new "Videogames don't have to be fun"? You doublespeak morons are ridiculous, being an autist and picking apart semantics doesn't change the fact that we hate the game, we hate the state of the company, and we hate the industry that promotes such lazy half-assed practices.
the fact that so much of the bethesda game "community" essentially got one-guy'd by patrician says a lot about their critical thinking skills. even moreso because patrician states in his own video that emil isn't the only person to blame for how bad starfield is, but people just latched onto him as the primary target after watching the video anyway.
I think people already hated Starfield and the design document talking point was just a succinct way to justify to themselves WHY the game is boring. To me, I think it's more of a cope, because it seems people think Bethesda putting out slop is because of ordinary mismanagement, when in reality the studio is just staffed by mostly soulless, incompetent drones and can't be saved by having a less moronic boss.
>just a succinct way to justify to themselves WHY the game is boring.
It's emblematic of their half assed design philosophy. That clip patrician showed where that guy said todd was the arbiter of everything & was extremely involved when they were a small team but is now distant because the team is so big combined with the lack of design document painted a grim picture.
>when in reality the studio is just staffed by mostly soulless, incompetent drones and can't be saved by having a less moronic boss.
That is clearly the origin, these brain dead decisions wouldn't happen otherwise but I think you're right about the cope, removing todd & emil wouldn't change much.
You can tell these people never worked on a project in their lives if they think that the existence of a "design document" is what makes or breaks something like Starfield.
The fact that they completely ignored only speaks that their staff is moronic
>google this dude
>gets 3k on patreon per month
why
Because he works and put out 1 long video every month
Maybe if you worked you'd be able to make minimum wage as well, anon
And maybe you should work so you can pay me minimum wage for my vids too
>leftist Twink video essayist calls out neck beard reaction channel Creetosis and rightwing twink essayists PatricianTV
All of them suck.
Why does some youtuber think he can convince me to like some I played and didn't enjoy?
Same thing happens on Ganker but in reverse like I have fun playing a game for 50+ hours and some clown will show up in a thread and be like >ACKSHULLY you didn't enjoy that game you already had fun playing you need to stop liking it right now!
As if I'm gonna 180 my own opinion from a lived experience.
I dunno, Ganker tries to convince me that Dragon's Dogma is good despite actually being shit.
>Doesn't like Dragon's dogma
F I L T E R E D by T H E W I N D
oops looks like I triggered the hivemind.
Dark Souls is also shit btw.
How dare you insult dark souls 1, 2 and/or 3
blud thought he could sneak in ds2 :skull:
nah man I'm dead
bro dis game b lit af fr fr:fire:
HOW DARE YOU!
It can't be helped that you have brain damage.
You're shit.
Yah, don't know why everyone shills that offline MMO.
while i do agree more writers would be nice, writing is not even a problem in starfield, most quests and characters are written competently. why are we pretending this is an issue when there's far bigger fish to fry atm? with exploration being the biggest one in the pond...
Yeah, I just naturally assumed more than one human being could be blamed for the game's writing being mediocre. There's a ton of other reasons why Starfield sucks, but Emil has said some disagreeable shit regarding his work on the game, from what I've heard, so people are really drilling into him particularly. That's how it goes. The internet loves hyperfixating on one aspect of a way bigger problem, because that one thing has accrued controversy.
He is the lead writer of a team of 8. So yes, it is mainly his fault.
>ITT video essayists and Redditors who love to criticise game devs but can't handle any criticism in response
O am I laffin'
It's ok, NKB.
Your mom likes with your videos.
Stop posting your videos here with your corny ironic weeaboo name and bland personality.
Emil is a fricking homosexual whos ruined half of bethesdas games, Black person needs to be let go.
All of you can hate Bethesda and Emil all you want, it won't change the fact that when you die you'll be waking up on a cart in skyrim.
everything this video goes over is completely superfluous to just playing the games and seeing how bad the writing is yourself
>but his point is that you don't even know how much emil is at fault
mother fricker he WROTE the main stories of fallout 3 and 4 and skyrim. this is fricking fact
Look I'm willing to believe that not every bad aspects of the writing are Emil's fault.
But when you look at his resume and it says
>lead writer of Fallout 3, Skyrim, Fallout 4 and Starfield
It's not difficult to attribute the sudden degradation of Bethesda's writing after Oblivion to this one person.
>after oblivion
What's so bad about Oblivion's writing?
You'd have to be moronic not to realize it's all just algorithm driven cottage industry shit
>2 HOURS
why not just watch a movie at this point?
>haven't watched a feature length movie in years
>have been watching 10 hour long video essays on repeat
what the frick is wrong with me
did you enjoyed the essays?
it's hard to find good essays cause most of them are 90% a plot summary so it ends up being a let'splay/review hybrid
No, the majority are fricking awful. I watched this jordanfringe guy's hey Arnold video where he talks about the entire series and it's all just plot summaries episode by episode. I can comfortably say now that I watched the entire hey Arnold series without actually having watched it. God I fricking hate myself.
do yourself a favour and bingewatch seinfeld
this, I rather just have a sitcom on my 2nd monitor 2bh
>TV show/video essay/movie in 2nd monitor
>music from youtube or spotify playing in the background
>video game on monitor 1 (it's an idle clicker game, MOBA, or FPS)
>constantly alt+tab to check for responses on Ganker or other social media
>checking cell phone constantly to text, watch videos, and comment on multiple website
yeah, it's gamer time
BASESD frick thinking
zoomer brain from constant hyperstimulation
True, but wrong picture.
I like majuular and yes I am afraid to admit it
Patbros.. It's over.