Engage's gameplay is nothing special. Adding a gay weapon triangle that only gives you player phase stun is not the EPIC LE GENRE TRANSFORMING GAMEPLAY PARADIGM SHIFT you obnoxious gays claim it is.
Yup, it's an ESL. He thinks my post implies that it's a new feature for Engage (but it kind of is in its shitty current implementation) when nothing in it states so.
Need me to type that out in Spanish, amigo?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
That is literally what your post implies you fucking mongoloid.
>Conquest
kill boss
kill boss
rout
seize
kill 4 enemies
rout
kill boss
seize
defend
kill boss
escape in 16 or kill boss
rout
kill boss
escape in 20 or kill boss
kill boss
kill boss
kill boss in 20
rout
seize
escape
seize
seize
seize
kill boss
seize
kill boss
kill boss
>Engage "PEAK FIRE EMBLEM"
rout
rout
kill boss
rout
kill boss x7
escape no rush tho wouldnt want u to feel any pressure 🙂
rout
kill boss
kill boss
escape HAHA NO gay KILL BOSS
kill boss x 11
>The localization is awful, are you really try to say that's peak fire emblem?
Yes? Shit localization is a fire emblem staple
See FE7 fucking up weapon effectiveness and PoR renaming normal mode to hard and removing the actual hard mode
Engage is peak FE
>PoR renaming normal mode to hard and removing the actual hard mode
That's a good thing though. PoR manic mode is a legit mistake. Its not even that hard, just unfun. The enemy turns take like, 2 fucking hours in the end game.
>Peak writing? FE4.
Is FE4's story really that great? I haven't played the game, but I don't hear much about the plot outside of the handful of major plot points.
They sound cool imo, but what about the rest of the writing?
FE4 has a very serviceable story which for FE standards is the peak of the series. It's probably helped by the fact that it's more "grounded" (there's still magic, ancient evil dragon gods etc but you know what I mean) and has darker themes than the rest of the series. And the plot twist helped build this reputation as well.
FE gameplay is mediocre at best you fucking brainlet. The only reason it ever became popular in both Japan and overseas is because of it's characters. I hate your pretentious gay ass just as much.
What a pointless question. Did you think you're being clever or something? A character doesn't have to be "good" or "deep" for them to be likeable nor does it have to be the main character. Lyn is just a much of a piece of cardboard and she's one of the most popular characters in the franchise. Heroes only makes money because of people's attachment to the characters. I'd like to know what you think you're trying to prove.
>artificial circlejerking 3H.
Kek no people circlejerked 3H because they liked it. It was the one month of Engage discussion that was completely artificial shills who all fucked off when their contract ended.
Nah, they circlejerk it because it has dating sim elements, what 3h fans want is not an FE game, it's an SRPG persona game. 3trannies and engagechads are nothing alike.
>because it has dating sim elements
You mean just like Engage? lmao
Engage has social sim and romance shit too its just nobody cares about the game so it never gets mentioned
>It's barely present in Engage, which is exactly why 3trannies hate Engage.
Literally all the dating sim shit from 3H is in Engage and they even added more new autistic minigames.
The reason nobody talks about the dating sim shit in Engage is because nobody likes any of its characters. It has more than 3H but nobody is interested in seeing it because the cast's personalities are like you ran a fishing trawl through Reddit and scooped up random posters.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
They did get rid of paired endings for some reason but you're still correct
>DUUUUUUDE WHY DOES THE 300 HOUR LONG GAME HAD MORE DISCUSSION THAN THE 50 HOUR ONE
Alright fags, here's my pitch for a new mainline FE game: >10 routes, each one has around 60 hours. Each route can't have more than 2 unique maps because that's a bad thing >don't make a true route so your autistic fanbase thinks that the plot is actually deep >make replayability an absolute fucking chore by tying unit's skill and class progression to a shitty slow ass repetitive system >add NG+ because that's a FE staple and any FE game that doesn't include is automatically a shitty game
Hire me IS
>add NG+ because that's a FE staple and any FE game that doesn't include is automatically a shitty game
how to show that you only played 3homos you chud, FE never had NG+ ever you secondary shitface
>He doesn't know about PoR's second playthrough goodies like fixed growths or bands >He doesn't know about RD requiring a cleared save for the true ending
Holy fucking they're not that important, I don't blame you for forgetting or not even considering them NG+
>Alienate most of the current fanbase by including pre-Awakening references and not enough romance sim shit >Alienate old fans with nu-Emblem writing >Alienate everyone with the character designs (even if there are a few good ones)
And its a shame because the gameplay is actually fun
Oh it's this thread. Let me summarize the next few hours: >Ugly art/characters >Story sucks, "but fire emblem games never had a good story" shit flinging >Muh gameplay without the ability to explain or defend their reason why >Mika Pikazo is a hack/chud >Needing to compare EnGAYge to the worst parts of 3HRT, one of the weaker fe games, because of how bad it is.
>>Muh gameplay without the ability to explain or defend their reason why
Engage is good because: >Pre-promoted units are usable and often better than their unpromoted counterparts, thus filtering muh growth shitters >Engage is HEAVILY player phase oriented (rechargeable 4 unit dance skill, Engage attacks in general, Sigurd allows for high movement, Chain Attacks, etc) >Enemy phase shitters still have their own toys to play with in the form of Bonded Shield >AI is smart enough to avoid taking zero damage and suiciding, which encourages the use of using high def/res units as actual walls to funnel enemies, encouraging smart placement of units >Staves are insanely OP, Obstruct is one of the best staves in the entire series and you can buy it like candy, Micaiah allows for multi-unit Warping, etc >Class skills are not that important, meaning a higher reliance on movement and weapon types >Fixed Growths mode means shitters can't bitch about getting stat screwed
My only gameplay complaint is that the DLC items get auto dumped into your inventory
>Pre-promoted units are usable and often better than their unpromoted counterparts, thus filtering muh growth shitters >Fixed Growths mode means shitters can't bitch about getting stat screwed
Sure Agree. >Engage is HEAVILY player phase oriented (rechargeable 4 unit dance skill, Engage attacks in general, Sigurd allows for high movement, Chain Attacks, etc) >Enemy phase shitters still have their own toys to play with in the form of Bonded Shield
Agree somewhat my grievances with this is mostly the break mechanic being awful. A traditional weapon triangle would've been significantly better. >AI is smart enough to avoid taking zero damage and suiciding, which encourages the use of using high def/res units as actual walls to funnel enemies, encouraging smart placement of units
All this does is cause them to clump up and pass. The game is supposed to "Punish" you for turtling/taking long with reinforcements but with the defensive tools you have available to you such as corrin terrain combined with thieves you are never in any real danger. That AI often works against it as enemies won't even try to RNG you at ~10-13% hit rate when they only take 1-2 damage back. >Staves are insanely OP, Obstruct is one of the best staves in the entire series and you can buy it like candy, Micaiah allows for multi-unit Warping, etc
I agree. It's a shame there aren't any defend maps or more than 1 escape map to promote the usefulness of staves like obstruct and freeze. >Class skills are not that important, meaning a higher reliance on movement and weapon types
Classes in general feel like an afterthought. If they wanted to go this route and place emphasis on rings, every unit should've been class locked without the ability to second seal truly the cancer of fire emblem or reset their level. Weapon types feel pointless as the break mechanic is often incredibly underwhelming whether its on player phase or enemy phase and it not working on bosses is laughable.
>Agree somewhat my grievances with this is mostly the break mechanic being awful. A traditional weapon triangle would've been significantly better
I disagree, largely on the basis that the weapon triangle has ONLY mattered in Genealogy (for it's +/-20% hit rate crippling some units) and SD/NM (because it's the difference between enemies on Hard 5/Luna R dealing bonus WTA damage). Break hardly matters in practice since actual armors are immune to it and Advanced classes having access to 2 weapon types typically. Alternatively, you can bait out swarms of enemies with Great Aether since it won't matter of you get broken on EP during that (same for Hector and his Engage attack if you're a paypig) >That AI often works against it as enemies won't even try to RNG you at ~10-13% hit rate when they only take 1-2 damage back.
This is demonstrably false. Enemies will only not attack you if you they deal 0 damage or have 0% hit rate, with the sole exception of getting a chain attack in on you. This is why Fallen Star is insanely good on Maddening, it practically turns your unit invisible. >All this does is cause them to clump up and pass
Which is a good thing the game is heavily PP oriented. Alternatively, it's a great thing so many objectives are Defeat The Boss(es) so you can continue rushing and ignoring the less important enemies
Generally agree with everything else you've said, but: >it not working on bosses is laughable.
Bosses with break would be too easy. My real gripe is the lack of partial effectiveness against bosses on Maddening
Lesbians
People are sick of them
Game would be fine, if not for lesbians.
If you keep adding them in your games, don't be surprised your games will keep failing.
Here's the 3 main reason
1. nostalgia wank, except westoid fans don't feel nostalgic towards pre-Awakening series
2. v-tuber design
3. extreme linguistic censorship
Franchise celebration games like Engage are better as spin-offs (Dissidia/Persona Q) instead of full fledged entries. It's a card you can really play once and it feels like a human centipede ouroboros.
I don't give a fuck about the fanservice "remember this old character!?" shit, but the stuff Emblems as equips, weapons and skills brought to the table was honestly really cool and I hope we get more like it in a less retarded fashion
Three houses was bad enough but they've been running it into the ground so hard i didn't even feel the desire to play engage and I'm a fan of the series
>So is fire emblem’s popularity dying?
Definitely. The monastery garbage in 3H killed older fans and prevented newer players for getting in the franchise. Imagine having 3H as your first game and wanting to play another fire emblem game after enduring that piece of shit school
>I heard it did worse than rtdl deluxe, which is a remake
Tendies hate good video games, what else is new? Also, kirby got shilled a lot while engage only got 1 single nintendo direct
KEK this retard is trying to spin Engage being a fat flop on 3H.
Hey tardbro, you know that 3H being the best selling game also came with it having incredibly long legs, you know, the opposite of Engage?
>3H being the best selling game
Switch bonus. See pokeshit hitting new sale records despite all of the controversies and the games being objectively shit
>having incredibly long legs
Smash bonus
3H will be the Megaman Battle Network 4 of Fire Emblem. The best selling game of the franchise and also the one game that killed newcomer's interest due to the game being absolute fucking garbage
I don’t even dislike engage or love 3H but this is just blatantly untrue, 3H hit the normie crowd and was the only time FE has ever been able to do so, that’s why it sold so well
>Highest selling game in the franchise >Infinitely repayable despite the map recycling due to freedom of unit customization through skills, classes and battalions >Passes the porn test
Definitely killed the franchise
>Infinitely repayable despite the map recycling due to freedom of unit customization through skills, classes and battalions
And does an objectively worse job than Awakening and Fates that came out prior 3H
What's even there to experiment in 3H? Classes are pointless due to master classes being hybrid shit except not really, which makes Wyvern Lord objectively the best class of the game. And for some fucking reason, every class is allowed to wield any weapon except fists and magic, so wyvern lords are better sword users, lance users, axe users which doesn't fucking matter because there's no weapon triangle than the rest of the classes AND also better fucking bow users
And unlike those two games, you don't have to constantly grind professor points and increase student motivation to even reach that point
Literally tell me what else is there to do in 3H other than going full fliers, some gremories or the broken DLC flier mage class and 1 war master if you're feeling cocky >inb4 muh avoid tank >inb4 duuuuude mortal savanat is fun you're just a tryhard that refuses to play on normal casual and grind infinite skirmishes on NG+++
>3H >infinitely replayable
lol, lmao even
Barely a normie even bothered to play through more than one route and most core FE fans fucking hate 3H gameplay wise and wouldn't replay it unless offered money
>3h >infinitely replayable through the snail's pace customization that's only good with repeat ng+ playthroughs
it's megaman x8 all over again without it having the privilege of preceding a shittier game, no wonder it's so shit
I liked 3H more than Engage, but that garbage is not replayable at all. The monastery shit and recycling of maps outside of CF really kills any replayability.
they did, it was called Awakening and it saved the series since you 'GAY PLAY ONLY' fags (who mysteriously don't just play better SRPGs, weird) didn't buy the games. It's almost like you and everyone like you are just casual LARPing fuckwads?
COPE
>they should make a FE for their real audience aka retarded women who play in normal/casual who want a VN on their censored dating sim
They've done that multiple times already and they were called Genealogy of the Holy War and Sacred Stones. FE8 is literally an otome game where your handsome knight solos every map for you.
>This is demonstrably false. Enemies will only not attack you if you they deal 0 damage or have 0% hit rate, with the sole exception of getting a chain attack in on you. This is why Fallen Star is insanely good on Maddening, it practically turns your unit invisible.
I remember them not attacking, might've been under 10%. I haven't touched engage in a month since I beat it though very possible I was wrong. >Bosses with break would be too easy. My real gripe is the lack of partial effectiveness against bosses on Maddening
You're not wrong but it leads to the player questioning "why the fuck is this even in the game" if it barely matters versus regular enemies and the one place it would matter, it doesn't work.
Overall I don't hate Engage from a gameplay perspective, I just dont think its peak FE gameplay like some claim. It generally better than 3h and awakening but has much room for improvement. It's everything else around Engage that sours me from ever playing it again. I'll boot up POR again because I actually like characters like Marcia and Haar and like making shitty units like Mia and Zihark work by investing bexp and energy drops into them. For Engage there's none of that feeling I hate everyone.
>15 paralogues and they're actually unique maps (a completely foreign concept to 3H)
The paralogues not having the same objectives as their original is a sin.
>Agree somewhat my grievances with this is mostly the break mechanic being awful. A traditional weapon triangle would've been significantly better
I disagree, largely on the basis that the weapon triangle has ONLY mattered in Genealogy (for it's +/-20% hit rate crippling some units) and SD/NM (because it's the difference between enemies on Hard 5/Luna R dealing bonus WTA damage). Break hardly matters in practice since actual armors are immune to it and Advanced classes having access to 2 weapon types typically. Alternatively, you can bait out swarms of enemies with Great Aether since it won't matter of you get broken on EP during that (same for Hector and his Engage attack if you're a paypig) >That AI often works against it as enemies won't even try to RNG you at ~10-13% hit rate when they only take 1-2 damage back.
This is demonstrably false. Enemies will only not attack you if you they deal 0 damage or have 0% hit rate, with the sole exception of getting a chain attack in on you. This is why Fallen Star is insanely good on Maddening, it practically turns your unit invisible. >All this does is cause them to clump up and pass
Which is a good thing the game is heavily PP oriented. Alternatively, it's a great thing so many objectives are Defeat The Boss(es) so you can continue rushing and ignoring the less important enemies
Generally agree with everything else you've said, but: >it not working on bosses is laughable.
Bosses with break would be too easy. My real gripe is the lack of partial effectiveness against bosses on Maddening
>likes Mia which has no personality other than having a shitty dub voice in RD and huge tits and delicious lickable armpits and is trash >hates the Bouch which has no personality and is trash
Why are you forcing yourself so hard to hate engage?
The main character's design is so obnoxious and abhorent that I did not even pirate the game. That this is what they went with is a flashing neon sign, "the people in charge are either hopelessly incompetent or not paying any attention at all"
>"the people in charge are either hopelessly incompetent or not paying any attention at all"
Ironically, the gameplay appeals way more to oldfags than nu FE tards
I didn't buy the game because of lack of cohesion of characters. The games have been steadily getting worse but this one in particular really felt like they wanted to just make a gacha game. None of the characters really meshed together and it ended up looking really silly.
I think some of the footage I saw had literally clowns or something? It seemed comically bad.
>but this one in particular really felt like they wanted to just make a gacha game.
the director flat out said it was a game aimed at children and newcomers to get them into FEH
>but this one in particular really felt like they wanted to just make a gacha game.
There are literal sections in this game outside of the maps where you run around or do minimal chores like petting your deformed kawaii uguu dog, where you pick-up this currency that can be used to speed-up your bond levels with your Emblem Rings or pull for weaker rings.
The monastery in 3H wasn't perfect by any means either, but what Engage is doing is obvious trying to rot the brain of its playerbase into thinking that this time wasting gacha design nonsense is even remotely acceptable gameplay. Its even more obvious that IS is trying to lure people into this mindset if you paid attention to their mobile game. After they released Engage, the new units they released in their mpobile game are all from Engage! Wow, what a coincidence!
It's called promoting the most recent game retard. They did the same with 3H in Heroes. You would get a free Male Byleth for buying 3H within a certain amount of time.
Ahhhh I love drinking the tears of the retarded. If Engayge copers could get a little more angry and incomprehensible in their ESL posts that would be great
Are you me? But yeah, fuck those haughty bitches. It's not only that Engayd looks atrocious and the plot is utter garbage, Fire Emblem is now a magnet of insufferable retards the likes Pokemon or Zelda.
It should be mandatory to have your age and first game you of the franchise you beat to voice opinion on any franchise.
Awakening was the game that brought you gays in. All 3H did was add more of you.
It's not the only people who like engage are zoomies, trannies and a handful of of actual fe fans just because it passes the minimum threshold of being a fire emblem game.
Japan can have good writing, but it's just rarer to have really good writing. Most of it's better then the generic western writing slop at the very least.
That game remains one of the most inexplicable things in this industry. There's been other flops and screw-ups, but imagine taking two of the hottest weeb properties, promising a crossover, and then offering... that.
Admittedly, Engage has worse character design.
Honestly, thinking on it, Engage probably lost like half a mil in sales simply because the main character looked stupid... well, stupid in a way that clashed with the expected aesthetic of FE. And there wasn't enough coomer-bait to them to overcome the backlash by drawing in new fans, like XC2 experienced from XC1 fans.
>promising a crossover, and then offering... that.
the funny part is it's not THAT terrible if you try playing it (well, honestly depends on how much you can stand idolshit) and it would've sold pretty well had Nintendo not BUTCHERED the game with censorship and then made that version the global version so even the Moon people had a Treehouse'd up pozz fest.
Just an amazingly amusing sequence of bad decisions.
>game censored in the west on wiiu, which is a big negative for niche games where the customerbase is more aware of these sorts of things >rerelease it for the switch >use the censored western version as a base for switch rerelease meaning even japs get fucked >shit got so bad Nintendo offered refunds for japanese customers
TMS was just blunders after blunders
It's a married biological woman who does promotional stuff for Atlus Japan.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
ah yes, my senses and eyes are lying to me. But not a soulless bot like you.
that giant adam's apple is just the my imagination. Just the wind.
yeah...right.
If I am paying $70 fucking dollars, then of course I should be the chosen one with a big sword. And you should give me a harem of hot anime girls in my army. Fucking bitch. What do you think I am paying for?
You act as if the Tactician was an actual part of the game and not something so completely tertiary that you could pretty much pretend he's Lyn's imaginary friend.
Why do FEfags even care about stuff like staying power and sales to the point of comparing them with other games in the series?
It sold enough to continue the franchise and the next mainline game is going to have another massive shift just like FE almost always does.
That's what I'm saying. As long as it sold well and was fun enough, why the flying fuck does it matter that normies or secondaries stopped talking about it?
The FE fanbase is extremely fractured due to the changes that occur each game that you mentioned. The sides look for any reason to shit on each other in their efforts to crown what is "true FE" and how the franchise should move forward (tl: make more of the FE game(s) that I liked). You have GBAfags and Telliusfags disagreeing, FE4fags and Fatesfags arguing, 3Hfags and Engagefags snapping at each other and the next mainline game is guaranteed to have more of the same.
Imagine the SMTfag VS. Personafag shitflinging, except if there was also a Devil Survivor camp, a TMS camp, etc. in the fray.
I'd say mostly only the people who hate engage for some reason or have a vested interest in it "failing" especially compared to 3H care too much about it's sales.
Why would you care about a vidya franchise being profitable? The only thing I give a shit about is a game selling enough to either get a sequel or keep the studio afloat for more games from them.
Unironically this, their biggest mistake was trying to go back, waifugayry and social links was what saved the franchise with awakening and that's the core audience now
Fire Emblem as a franchise should've died years ago, what fucking characters are there to give a shit about anymore? No chad mercenaries, no black knights, no buy.
Everything needs to have an easy button to appease the modern gamer. Its the same reason why ports of old games almost always come with save states and rewinds included.
Challenge? What's that?
>Back in my day, we got an armor knight who had 1 line of dialogue in the entire game and we liked it and still cried when he permadied
I'm pretty sure Oswin had more than one line of dialogue
it's a game with permadeath, which means getting attached to the characters is part of the experience since you may adjust your tactical choices depending on who you prefer and try to keep most people alive. Like in Xcom even if most soldiers barely have a personality, they're still unique and their feats can create an attachment. In advance wars everyone on the battlefield is a faceless mook so you don't really care about such matters.
Never even finished it, got to maybe chapter 17 and simply couldn't be bothered to continue. The gameplay was horrible, every mission was a miserable slog. And the characters and story were ass.
I swear to God the posts talking about this game are always near identical in every single thread and accompanied by the same fucking pics. It's like the same fags from 3H threads that kept regurgitating the same shit for months.
It sold surprisingly well, considering how godawful the main character's design is. Seriously, it's the character you see the most onscreen, why would you make him look like a pepsi advertisement?
>Edelgard is obviously the villain >join her >game whitewashes everything she does to try to paint her as a hero
I just wanted to be the bad guy and now people think I'm a simp
>Edelgard >Wants to name your unit "the black eagle strike force" or some shit >Tell her "no lmao that's gay" >"too bad"
Should've been given the choice to behead her right then and there.
out of all the little fe fanbases between the games, the most tribalistic, confrontational, combative ones happen to come from three houses: the game most popular amongst newfags and twittertrannies
makes you think
>Conquest
kill boss
kill boss
rout
seize
kill 4 enemies
rout
kill boss
seize
defend
kill boss
escape in 16 or kill boss
rout
kill boss
escape in 20 or kill boss
kill boss
kill boss
kill boss in 20
rout
seize
escape
seize
seize
seize
kill boss
seize
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>Engage "PEAK FIRE EMBLEM"
rout
rout
kill boss
rout
kill boss x7
escape no rush tho wouldnt want u to feel any pressure 🙂
rout
kill boss
kill boss
escape HAHA NO gay KILL BOSS
kill boss x 11
The entire series has the problem of having a Conceptual Base (Lord, Evil Empire, Jagen and the rest of the archetypes, Dragons, Weapon Triangle, New units as the campaign goes on, ect) that it develops from, but it can't go more than 1-2 games without regressing back to that base and experimenting in an entirely different direction.
This creates micro-fanbases within the greater community based upon what game you came in with and they have different expectations.,
3H had this effect worst than most on account of it being so different but also being the first one on the Switch and therefore becoming for a new and much larger cohort of players what fire emblem is.
However 3H is so far removed from the platonic idea of Fire Emblem (1,6,9, and 11 are what I would argue get the closest but not quite for any of them) that any attempt to regress back to the mean and develop out again is going to get larger scale rejection and pushback.
i'm so tired of Ganker engage threads, just constant "why did it... LE FAIL???" OPs and a bunch of retarded takes as to why. so trite. just have a nice day. I'd rather not discuss it at all if every thread is gonna be like this.
>3H attracted the storyfags >Engage attracted the gameplayfags
So what is the next FE game going to be like? Reminder that it needs to keep up the series tradition of being able to attract a fanbase that will fight for it and maybe one or two other FE games.
>Engage attracted the gameplayfags
hahahahhaha no, it attracted 5 year olds and people playing on normal who pretend on Ganker to play Maddening/Lunatic
>(You) are a MEGA AWESOME they/them who EVERYONE loves even the villains. >Because EVERYONE loves you, you will never be targeted for an attack on any of the maps >go to the spirit of the goddess statue to change from body type A and B at any point in the game >Anyone can have a paired ending with anyone >EVERYONE has a dark tragic past and joined the war to overcome it >Bringing back the rings from engage, the classes and monastery from 3 Houses >When at the monastery everyone will act like everything is good at there is no war going on and youre all super awesome friends 🙂 like the somiel >6 routes all using the same maps, all kill boss >Mika Pikazo will design the characters again
Are you nuts? Engage is the first Fire Emblem I won't play/buy and I started playing with a shitty half-done english patch of FE4 in the early 00's. I've tolerated enough shit with Fates.
Engage is bad. Everything good about it was done better in older games.
Engage is a shit mechanic. Engage has shit characters. Engage has shit character design. There are no redeeming qualities.
It's incredibly uninspired and forgettable, it just ”Exists” . If you played any other FE games you've already played Engage. It also has atrocious character design which is why none of them have caught on. The only one that gets waved around is Alear because lol it’s your main character self insert avatar which has plagued the series imo and it's nearly exclusively ironically to joke about how bad the design is.
5 6 9 Conquest Engage
If you hate a single one of those games then you simply hate FE
>inb4 4fags shilling their shitty open empty gaiden tier maps >inb4 7fags shilling their shitty baby game full of enemies that don't do jack shit >inb4 12fags shilling their shitty Kris solo simulator >inb4 13fags shilling their shitty Robin solo simulator >inb4 3HRTfags chuding out yet again
>like a new game >automatically a zoomer
How do I avoid this? Am I supposed to post a picture of my PS2 running Berwick Saga with a timestamp?
Am I a zoomer for starting with FE7 just like nearly every single boomer?
Sorry anon, I can't find my SNES and PS1 and there's no fire emblem on the GB >tfw wanted to try the disc swap piracy PS1 trick again after failing it as a kid 2 decades ago but can't find the fucking console hold me bros...
Wow it's almost like Visuals and Story is important to a game
Who knew having a shit art style and a shit story could kill again, especially when the gameplay hasn't changed at all compared to the previous game
Also, censoring your game doesn't help
>the gameplay hasn't changed at all compared to the previous game
i was with you until this point, anything is a blitzing godsend compared to 3h gameplay-wise
>especially when the gameplay hasn't changed at all compared to the previous game
Actually it did; this time it doesn’t take hours to do the filler sections unlike the Monastery
>B-BUT THE GAMEPLAY! THE GAMEPLAY IS ALL THAT MATTERS! IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT, Y-YOU SHOULD GO READ A BOOK!
I swear to god, I'm getting Conquest flashbacks with all this. At least Conquest looked halfway decent. I've seen people outright calling others "storyfags" like wanting a not retarded narrative is a negative now.
then you have people telling you >dude just press start
like it's somehow acceptable to have a game's plot and dialogue so bad you're expected to skip them, and I didn't even skip conquest's dialogues but I couldn't stand engage's
Yes, just press start you fucking retard. At least the game lets you press start to skip atrocious cutscenes unlike pokemon, which people clearly don't mind beca
Also it's way better than 3H because skipping cutscenes > skipping gameplay. I can't be the only one spent the second half of 3H just spamming rest to skip the fucking monastery cancer
>dude just press start
this shit drives me up a wall guaranteed for the same reasons you listed. i love engage but the story is a legitimate criticism no matter how much you slur out "HURRRR JUST SKIP BRO XDDD" through that drooling mouth of yours. instead of having good story or good gameplay, why not just fucking have both? the last game to do that was radiant dawn and arguably fe12 if you can ignore the MU
god, this fanbase sucks
No anon, Engage has a bad story because it has Roy from Super Smash Bros Melee as a power up despite him having less than 4 lines in the entire game because the emblems do not participate on the plot and are literally just dragon balls
If instead of older characters you had some shitty new characters then the story would become 100000x better because retard logic
But no, newcomers feel confused when they see Micaiah instead of a generic healslut character because they haven't played Radiant Dawn yet, despite her being completely fucking irrelevant to the game's plot and writing
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>But no, newcomers feel confused when they see Micaiah instead of a generic healslut character
Are you sure? Because I think most newcommers would go >her engage move is to heal the entire army no matter how far away and lets you use staffs with no staff proficiency, I bet she's the heal ring
Engage's story isn't nearly as bad as people here try to parrot. It's not good don't get me wrong, but Fates story and character interaction is just so much worse that it is actually baffling to me there is people saying Engage is worse. Conquest and Revelation especially, but Conquest at least has the gameplay to carry it unlike Birthright and Revelation.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
The thing is that Conquest and even Birthright who's gameplay at this point in fe I'd say is slightly above average have a few things going for them other than gameplay.
They share what is possibly the best music in the entire franchise and the character designs are, in general, pretty cool and memorable.
Engage has NOTHING going for it other than decent NOT peak gameplay. Forgettable music, infantilized story, cringe-worthy dialogue, awful character design that translates poorly into 3d, lack of map variety to force the "Sentai Henshin" battles with the rings.
Because of this even if the story may not be as bad as it was in fates, it will be perceived as and remembered as worse than fates because of how poorly received everything else around it was.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Forgettable music, infantilized story, cringe-worthy dialogue
Music is subjective but the other half applies moreso to Fates than Engage because Engage never lost DLC due to chuddubs like Fates.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Engage because Engage never lost DLC due to chuddubs like Fates
Maybe so, but I don't consider DLC ever when comparing games. I didn't play fates' dlc and I have no desire to touch Engage's either.
We're on the same boat here. I couldn't force myself to finish her route
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Fates' plot was like a jigsaw puzzle. They had the right pieces but arranged them completely wrong. Nohr, Valla and Anankos could have been great. I hope we get a remaster in 10 years
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moron the only song from Engage I can remember is the Solm one because it's catchy. 7 years have passed since Fates' launch and I still catch myself humming to the songs. I'm sure the music budget was cut
I don't even remember the Solm one lmfao. I vaguely remember Brodia's for sounding like it almost could fit in with RD's ost but that's about it.
Awakening >romance >regular gameplay >nice artstyle and character design >mediocre story, ok setting (I like the continuity) >nice soundtrack >a handful of memorable characters >fun child unit eugenics >didn't play DLC so I can't comment
Fates >romance >amazing gameplay >great artstyle and character design >bad story, setting mostly ignored aside from Nohr, Hoshido, and Valla >soundtrack is absolutely stellar >a handful of memorable characters >fun child unit eugenics >more than one route (had to pay separately for each) >good DLC
3H >romance >SHIT gameplay >mediocre artstyle and character design >good story, excellent setting >ok soundtrack >many memorable characters >more than one route for free >nice DLC
Engage >no romance >good gameplay >mediocre to bad artstyle and character design >mediocre story, setting doesn't matter at all >forgettable soundtrack >no memorable characters >only one route >good DLC
I just want a Fire Emblem with good gameplay, interesting characters, plot, and setting, romance, good music and more than one route (even just two will suffice)
>the gameplay hasn't changed at all compared to the previous game
Didn't you play it?
>Awakening >regular gameplay
Maybe if it's your first FE and you're playing it like a JRPG min maxing all your characters through auxiliary battles on normal mode. But I would never call Chrobin anything other than shit gameplay.
Fates took Awakening's gameplay and made it really good.
Which ones? It has been some time since I last played it, please refresh my memory. I'll admit Edeltard and Byleth are shit
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>I'll admit Edeltard and Byleth are shit
The one with Edelgard, you know the one that's considered a great plot by the 3H audience.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
We're on the same boat here. I couldn't force myself to finish her route
How the fuck did she go from the decent/reasonable writing of Awakening to the pile of garbage that was Fates, to the clusterfuck of Engage?
Fates' plot was like a jigsaw puzzle. They had the right pieces but arranged them completely wrong. Nohr, Valla and Anankos could have been great. I hope we get a remaster in 10 years
>Forgettable music, infantilized story, cringe-worthy dialogue
Music is subjective but the other half applies moreso to Fates than Engage because Engage never lost DLC due to chuddubs like Fates.
moron the only song from Engage I can remember is the Solm one because it's catchy. 7 years have passed since Fates' launch and I still catch myself humming to the songs. I'm sure the music budget was cut
Literally didn't remember it existed until you posted it. It sounds good but is not memorable. I think the Sombron fight and Xenologue theme are good as well. Can't compare to Fates, however
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>It sounds good but is not memorable
It's memorable to me.
3 House's plot is fine if you only play one route, which is clearly what all the normalfags did. That way there's only a few missteps like Blyat being stupid and not rewinding to save Rodrigue
It's only when you play other routes that you see how utterly fucking terrible everything is and you realize that characters are are doing cartwheels do justify their shitty behaviors in other routes and how 90% of the conflict would be resolved if people would just fucking talk to each other when they clearly realize that a lot of them want the same basic things
If 3H was just Dmitri's route or if it was split up into 3 games like fates was without any of the out of house monastery shit it would unironically be praised as being one of the best in the series.
>Everyone is suddenly a sales analyst >Everyone is suddenly a huge fan of 3H despite shitting on it for the last 5 years >Everyone is suddenly agreeing with an e-celeb despite shitting on them relentlessly
This fanbase is a joke.
3H was kept in the public consciousness longer because of shipfags and house/faction pride which generates fanart and ongoing discussion. Each house leader (bisexual looking darkskin guy, 'I can fix him' guy and 'girls get it done Schrodinger's lesbian') was tailor made for women to create fanfiction with a main character that didnt look like a clown like Engage's.
I haven't played any FE games yet, but you really shouldn't pay attention to what the average normalfag has to say about a Japanese game. They are repulsed by anything foreign by instinct.
My guess is that both Xeno and FE have come close to going dormant before due to a lack of sales but in their current state they don't have much to worry about. Both series have done enough to ensure they'll get at least a few more games and it'll take some massively unsuccessful entries to tank them completely.
The hair really is the biggest fucking red flag possible
When that is what you are putting front and centre on all your promo material it tells me the rest of the game is somehow even more ugly/halfassed
Did they ever undo the shitty translation that pretty much removes all the dating sim elements and changes the characters personalities?
Is there at least a fucking fanmade patch to undo it?
>engaging >DOOD LE USE YOUR INSTANT TELEPORT AOE / TELEPORT ACROSS MAP / SUPER CUTSCENE JOJO GHOST
Engage is fucking baby mode shit where your units don’t even matter and every play through is just attaching different stat blocks to your shitty meme ghosts
>AAHHH WHY DOES THE GAME GIVE YOU COOL ABILITIES AND MULTIPLE OPTIONS
what kind of retarded complaint is this?, all characters are viable and all maps have many ways to be solved, yes that is a good thing
>etie >dogshit
Say that to my face and not online fucker and see what happens
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Etie is bad Alcryst which is already a fucking terrible unit. Literally just use Panette if you want a good archer right from the gate
>Anna
Ivyschizo thinks he can pull a fast one without us noticing...
Actually, I am the Celine schizo. Celine is simply a much better levin sword user than Anna and doesn't constantly face 10% crits against everyone unlike Anna and Ivy
>Alfred
Agree >Anna
Disagree. Just change her to High Priest and to Sage later. She was my first unit to reach 200+ rating >Bencheron
Agree >Etie
She's just ok >Bunet
Never even used him lmao >Timerra
She isn't that good but just raise her DEX bro
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[...] >Everyone should be good and usable :*~~ There shouldn't be any strategic choices to who you deploy or any niche characters that help you certain chapters like Jagens or early game armor knights.
Actually unironically have a nice day gays
What is the purpose of useless/temporarily useful units?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>shilling Anna
Hello Normal/casual anon
>She isn't that good but just raise her DEX bro
No fuck off she's hot garbage. My Timerra got blessed, I gave her a dex tonic every map, gave her Leif due to the build bonus which would allow her to use the silver lance without any weight penalty and she was still absolute half
~30 dex endgame
Quadruple attack hits for 4x0
Sandstorm is an absolute fucking meme skill. She's absolute dogshit >inb4 hurf durf just give her Lyn
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It's GOOD game design because it forces you to make actual hard choices in your *STRATEGY* game.
In the event that you're a HUGE gay that's attached to a character, you can always spend 20 turns to baby any unit into making them usable.
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To be used as a tool to clear the map or that section of the game. If you're an actual gameplayfag and not just pretending as its the only thing you can desperately claw onto to defend this game, you'd agree.
For an incredibly basic example: It's the same reason they put Mankey in the grass before Brock in Yellow or Bellsprout/Oddish before Misty.
>To be used as a tool to clear the map or that section of the game. If you're an actual gameplayfag and not just pretending as its the only thing you can desperately claw onto to defend this game, you'd agree.
If I wanted that kind of boring unreplayable shit then I would stick to Advance Wars anon. Etie being able to 1 shot fliers in chapter 3 already makes that map completely irrelevant. Every character has a niche except Bunet unless you're really that desperate on an ironman and it's your job to make them useful, not having the game play itself
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Every single character in engage can be made good due to rings, especially Lyn's ring and the free arena. I wouldn't say they all have a niche when they can all make it to being end game monsters.
This has been the case since the game became skill-emblem in Awakening. The only chapters in the modern games that actually feel like fire emblem are always the first few early game chapters where you arent given a plethora or nu-fe tools to build super units.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>especially Lyn's ring
You only have one Lyn ring, and there are bad units that become good with Lyn while there are good units that become absolute cunt destroyers with Lyn. There's still some unit variety in the game >free arena
30 exp and 15 SP per chapter isn't that game breaking anon
Honestly, I don't even consider Engage skill emblem. You only have 2 slots for customization, most of the time that 1 slot is going to be canter and most class skills are surprisingly shit. Your entire skill kit is on the ring, there's no insane combinations like in awakening, conquest and 3HRT
The most you can do to build super units is to use DLC emblems youdidnotbeatthegame since those guys are the ones that have super broken skills and engage weapons
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Yes and because of how worthless classes are in engage a unit's usefulness can be heavily tied to their ring it's not just the Lyn ring any ring can bring any unit to being good. Regardless of who you put Lyn's ring on, Diamant, Lapis, Zelkov, Goldmary, fuckin anyone it never feels like you're playing that unit, you're playing the "Lyn Ring".
There hasn't been a good defend for X turns map since Thracia 776
POR ch 8
RD Part 2 Endgame
RD Part 3 Ch 12 (plays like a defend map)
RD Part 3 Ch 13
Fates Ch 10
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Alfred
Agree >Anna
Disagree. Just change her to High Priest and to Sage later. She was my first unit to reach 200+ rating >Bencheron
Agree >Etie
She's just ok >Bunet
Never even used him lmao >Timerra
She isn't that good but just raise her DEX bro
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What is the purpose of useless/temporarily useful units?
>Hello Normal/casual anon
I've used Anna in Maddening, it's not that bad. She's even pretty useful even before reclassing if you give her Micaiah and play around Chain Attacks.
The issue with Anna is sparing enough promotion items for her, which is a simple matter of pre-planning. Also you can grind master seals in relay trials push come to shove
>Timerra
I actually found her to be very strong in all of my playthroughs if you play to her defense stat. In Maddening she has enough defenses to actually allow her to enemy phase, which is incredibly valuable as weakening enemies for your player phase eases up a lot of thresholds. Having your Chain Attacker positioned in the enemy's range by the beginning of your turn before she herself acts helps a lot building long chains without needing to equip Dual Assit+ on Timerra herself.
That said she definitely wants the Fensalir, which is practically made for her, effect and everything.
If you wanna be gimmicky with Timerra and force her a strict Player Phase role one thing you can do is give her the Eirika Emblem and give her a Killer Lance with either an Eirika or Camilla Engrave. Between Eirika emblem's Luck and her own passive and luck stat you can cancel out the drawbacks from the dodge penalty and safely push her crit to absurd levels, which stack up nicely with Standstorm.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>you can grind master seals in relay trials push come to shove
Ninty thanks you for that NSO subscription
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
it's a family account, so it's cheap for a yearly service
The mario kart wii tracks being free is a nice bonus
The emulator games are kinda neat, playing them on an actual console/handheld device
I'm not coping
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Lyn
Wouldn't help Timerra because she actually has above average speed. >Leif
Is a bad emblem and Bld isn't even her biggest problem because Engage lets you fix that trivially for everyone. Also, Quad Hit is notorious 0x4 late game.
Marth, Roy, Sigurd, Eirika and Ike are all better emblems for her.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Wouldn't help Timerra because she actually has above average speed.
I have far better units to go rambo with Lyn than having Timerra do "something" wuth it
Leif is fucking atrocious but at least Leif is good on her. Also, each quad hit can proc sandstorm, so that's actually better than having her deal shit damage normally
Also, for her to keep her above average speed she needs that build bonus, unless you're ok with her dealing plain 0 damage with iron lances of course.
>Marth
Comes too late, can't use silver blade with lode rush >Roy
I have better units to use him on. The stat bonus on an unit that can actually double without Lyn is too good to pass on >Sigurd
She wishes. My wyvern knight Kagetsu with speedtaker was insane with Sigurd >Eirika
Lmao what. Eirika is a waste on her. Every single physical unit benefits from Eirika, Timerra does nothing better to deserve Eirika >Ike
And there goes her above average speed. Also, not taking Ike away from Panette
Leif has zero demand and there's some synergy with Timerra, so that's the only Emblem I'll give her
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Every single physical unit benefits from Eirika, Timerra does nothing better to deserve Eirika
What?
I'll toss it back at you, what is everyone else doing with Eirika that Timerra cannot do?
I'm going to agree with you that it's a waste on Timerra, mostly on account that Eirika Emblem is only player phase, while Timerra has enough defense and speed to Enemy Phase effectively so you really are wasting Timerra if you don't play to her defense stat. Eirika Emblem loses a lot of steam once your units begin to kill stuff in Maddening with their raw stats on their own, so they'd rather gain better effects than just "more damage"
Uh-oh anon, you just activated his secret >using DLC
trap card
I mean, you can put your head on the ground and pretend they don't exist. The fact of the matter is that not only they exist, but the maps to get the DLC characters in Maddening are way, W A Y harder than the main game chapters if you delay them to a point where enemies are promoted.
Honestly, I can't see someone replaying Engage more than once and not getting the DLC maps. They're safisyingly challenging to play through and greatly open up how you play the game.
>unit requires 20 dollars to become good
What do we call this new fire emblem archetype bros? The only other unit that comes to mind is Mozu with dread fighter DLC
Wow, you managed to be wrong in two accounts. Mozu's best class isn't even Dread Fighter, it's by all means Archer. Getting her up to speed is as simple as recruiting her asap and deploying her in chapter 8.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Eirika is absolutely great on any physical character that can double without problems. Eirika is great on Merrin for example, she has no problems doubling and the pure damage that lunar brace gives makes her so that she can actually deal damage late game. Also, wolf rider gets a damage boost when using the engage attack which is actually pretty good
Martial Masters are also stupidly good with Eirika since they can attack 4 times and each attack gets boosted from lunar brace
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Oh yeah, Eirika is great on Merrin and Fogado who are fast speedlets, but those can also make just as good use out of Ike, Roy, etc.
In my first playthrough I ran Merrin with Eirika, Sigurd and Ike and I can attest she can kill just as well with all of them, except she gains more out of Ike and Roy than just "damage"
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Mozu's best class isn't even Dread Fighter, it's by all means Archer
Good luck grinding her on the Archer class on a Lunatic ironman AKA the only way to actually beat conquest
Dread Figher makes her good straight away and even has increased growth rates compared to spending 20 levels on a bad class
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>grinding
I just told you how.
Her recruitment chapter and chapter 8. Ditch Effie for chapter 8, she won't do much since you need to move around and a ranged unit is very welcome in that map, By chapter 9 Mozu is on par with everyone and good to go for the rest of the game, no grinding needed. Just manage your units better.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Marth, Roy, Sigurd, Eirika and Ike are all better emblems for her.
Hector also turns her Buildlet problems into a strength.
Chrom gives her Strenght, Speed, and a lot of Dex, Thoron and Mag+10 gives her a solid option against Generals, She actually gets use out of Brute Force and Charm, and Rally Spectrum gives opens up her support roles.
Edelgard is likely her best emblem, but Edelgard is also the best emblem for a lot of people
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Uh-oh anon, you just activated his secret >using DLC
trap card
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>unit requires 20 dollars to become good
What do we call this new fire emblem archetype bros? The only other unit that comes to mind is Mozu with dread fighter DLC
Chloé, Lapis, Citrinne, Diamant, and Nel are undeniably good. Veyle would be far better if her hair wasn't multicoloured but I still like her
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Vander and Boucheron aren't. Happy now?
Bro just use Alfred, Anna, Bouch, Etie, Bunet and Timerra if you want dogshit units
fuck off kaga, new joining characters shouldn't be allowed to outright invalidate old characters you spent time with
>Everyone should be good and usable :*~~ There shouldn't be any strategic choices to who you deploy or any niche characters that help you certain chapters like Jagens or early game armor knights.
Actually unironically have a nice day gays
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Again, FUCK off. That is objectively bad game design that died off in the early 2000s for a reason. Nobody wants to have a character they like be objectively trash
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
They don't get that part of the power discrepancy between the units is ludonarrative harmony. Don't bother.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>ludonarrative harmony
Then why is the head prince from the country of strength such a shitter?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Because Engage is shit at that
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>ludonarrative
Away with you, youtube video maker
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
those strategic choices still exist? meta characters like kagetsu wont stop being meta just because everyone else is viable, and using less powerful but still viable character will require extra attention, all it does is give you more options
That is what made early FEs so unique as the dogshit characters were designed to be a soft punishment for letting your better units die. Nu FE just dropped this entirely
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[...] >Everyone should be good and usable :*~~ There shouldn't be any strategic choices to who you deploy or any niche characters that help you certain chapters like Jagens or early game armor knights.
Actually unironically have a nice day gays
>NOOOO!! YOU CAN'T USE WHOEVER YOU WANT, THERE HAS TO BE AN OBJECTIVELY BEST META TEAM AND EVERYONE NEEDS TO USE THEM!!!!
get the fucking rope, you need to have a nice day NOW.
Again, FUCK off. That is objectively bad game design that died off in the early 2000s for a reason. Nobody wants to have a character they like be objectively trash
It's GOOD game design because it forces you to make actual hard choices in your *STRATEGY* game.
In the event that you're a HUGE gay that's attached to a character, you can always spend 20 turns to baby any unit into making them usable.
>Alfred
Agree >Anna
Disagree. Just change her to High Priest and to Sage later. She was my first unit to reach 200+ rating >Bencheron
Agree >Etie
She's just ok >Bunet
Never even used him lmao >Timerra
She isn't that good but just raise her DEX bro
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What is the purpose of useless/temporarily useful units?
To be used as a tool to clear the map or that section of the game. If you're an actual gameplayfag and not just pretending as its the only thing you can desperately claw onto to defend this game, you'd agree.
For an incredibly basic example: It's the same reason they put Mankey in the grass before Brock in Yellow or Bellsprout/Oddish before Misty.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Just arena grind bro
Nah.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>hard choices >Use X and lose or use Y and win
Not following your logic here chief
yeah, I don't really like it when every character can be super good. Viable isn't really a good metric because you can beat every game using all the shittiest units so every unit in the series is technically viable. Makes them feel samey if they're all good. Every character should have some niche though, that makes them worth deploying in certain situations or points in the story. Either through join time, or utility outside of just directly combat, stuff like that. I miss Kaga
What is wrong with vtuber designs? Why does it make you seethe so hard retard? If you're a normalfag that just hates anime aesthetics, you need to leave this site right now.
People blow the designs a bit out of proportion. Yes the main character looks fucking terrible and other characters like Hortensia and Timerra look like clowns but there's also a lot of characters that look just fine. Chloe fits in pretty well with most of the rest of the Pegasus Knight designs in the series unless you're anti-cleavage.
Game came out of nowhere to zero fanfare and was completely dehyped out of the gate by the character designs.l and the cameo characters. It felt like they were announcing a spinoff rather than a mainline
I'm surprised it did as well as it did, honestly. It felt like 3 Hopes did better simply because it built off of 3 Houses, but I'm not a salesfag so I have nothing to back that up.
Three Hopes sold 1 million worldwide apparently (as of august 2022, i haven't looked up more recent numbers) which is pretty good for a musou but I don't think it did more than engage.
Well that's good to hear just because Engage, despite its flaws, is still a mainline Fire Emblem game and like you said 3 Hopes is a musou spinoff. It just felt like 3 Hopes had more conversation and hype around it, tho maybe not
I just played one 3hopes route on hardest difficulty and called it a day but iirc a consensus was quicly reached on the game's plot due to how retarded the lords acted, especially Claude. That coupled with the fact that it's a musou and not a mainline game is why it's not talked about as much as 3 houses and engage (even if engage threads are mostly shitflinging)
>made all the shitty FEtubers lose money and views >made Mangs focus more on Advance Wars content which is more fun to watch >made 3Hfags finally admit their gameplay is shit after 4 years and instead move the goalpost to saying story matters more
He fucking won.
>hair hair hair hair hair hairhair hairhairhairhairhairhairhairhair hair hair hair hair hair hair hairhair hairhair hair hair BUT THE HAIRRRRRR
shut the FUCK up normalfags, don't you dare think about making this same post again, nobody cares about your shit post about how Alear looks. FUCK OFF.
Hair isnt the problem with Alear. If we ignore how much of a lose Alear acts like in general and just focus on their looks. The soft look/round lines it makes everything in the game look super gay/effeminate. It's not fitting for a franchise like fire emblem.
They realized him being "le epic schemer" was basically non-existent in Houses so they turned him into a treacherous psycho who fights the Kingdom and Rhea for no reason
Blue lion route was an average scenario, it fleshed out faerghus and dimitri's family and ended up with him killing the bad guy then that's it.
I don't remember Edelgard's route
Claude instead of searching for the truth and being a scheming weasel in general just goes "church bad!" and fights rhea, when the slither morons are right there
I read somewhere Rhea is shat on on all routes. Is there no saving her?
>Lyn
Wouldn't help Timerra because she actually has above average speed. >Leif
Is a bad emblem and Bld isn't even her biggest problem because Engage lets you fix that trivially for everyone. Also, Quad Hit is notorious 0x4 late game.
Marth, Roy, Sigurd, Eirika and Ike are all better emblems for her.
>trannies and leftoids
Again, your mental illness is irrelevant. If you unironically believe IS made Engage thinking about mentally ill retards from Burgerland, you need to go see a psychiatrist.
BTW, those people generally dislike Engage and prefer 3H.
>If you unironically believe IS made Engage thinking about mentally ill retards from Burgerland
moron do you even know the state of the world? Nippon is one of the most emasculated nations on the planet. They are making these effeminated looking characters for their effeminated audiences, all while boars ravish the countryside of Japan.
Because it was shit?
Fire Emblem has always been a mix of the gameplay with story and the autism of building cool looking characters. Engage only has one of those things.
>Hey dude, wanna help a man on hard times? Please subscribe to my youtube channel and twitch streams, I do FE6 Hard Mode ironman runs and I'm doing a six-part video series on Edelgard's postgame-hairstyles.
Don't listen to the other replies. You're based. Multicolored anime hair breaks their normalfag minds so hard. They can't handle anything colorful. They want bland non-anime aesthetics.
Why is engage modding so disappointing? Is it the fact that all the map editing/rom hacking info is locked behind a chud discord, or pic rel? Please discuss
Trannies and modding are simply two sides of the same coin
Just accept the fact that based mod autists are no longer a thing. The mod might be good and save Engage modding, the mod might fucking suck and completely kill the scene, just wait until it comes out and see for yourself
Nobody cares about it enough to make mods
I care immensely. Playing reverse recruitment right now and it's fun as fuck. Veyle works much better as a protagonist than Alear
I just played one 3hopes route on hardest difficulty and called it a day but iirc a consensus was quicly reached on the game's plot due to how retarded the lords acted, especially Claude. That coupled with the fact that it's a musou and not a mainline game is why it's not talked about as much as 3 houses and engage (even if engage threads are mostly shitflinging)
Redpill me on 3Copes. How retarded are the lords? What about the other minor characters?
Blue lion route was an average scenario, it fleshed out faerghus and dimitri's family and ended up with him killing the bad guy then that's it.
I don't remember Edelgard's route
Claude instead of searching for the truth and being a scheming weasel in general just goes "church bad!" and fights rhea, when the slither morons are right there
>why did a game with such shitty character designs that 90% of the fanbase thought the leaks were obviously fake do poorly?
I don't know. It's truly a mystery.
wow, what a wonderfully crafted response, you've proven yourself an interesting individual with many unique and thoughtful things to say. have a (You), my friend.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
You're so fucking trigger at literally nothing. This is funny as fuck.
There was a bunch of imports for three houses who literally only care about fire emblem to suck off a genocidal maniac, and once she is no longer there, they don't care anymore.
>Colors are thematically relevant
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The only memorable lines of dialogue in the entire game were the Emblems confronting their antagonists in the final chapter.
I realised I didn't like Engage the moment I realised if the Emblems weren't their I wouldn't give a shit about it.
When you said Lumera I thought at first you meant the brown witch lady who dies with the shirtless guy. I totally forgot the blue haired woman existed.
Why are there no good "defend" missions now?
Missions in TH where you are supposed to defend, but the enemy wyvern general fuck is just fucking standing on the edge of the map and you have to walk there with all your units anyway
So fucking annoying
If I had to say because they're boring if you do a lot of them. It also depends on the goal and how the map actually executes it, because some maps in Engage on Maddening are basically Defend Maps, except way harder because you actually have to kill the boss, still.
Playing engage is like playing over watch. There’s a bunch of sexy CGI bitches around but the game sucks and relies heavily on when you use your epic instant kill button
It would have been received better if it actually came out on the anniversary
People would have viewed it as a fun nostalgia trip spin off instead of the next mainline game
>It would have been received better if it actually came out on the anniversary
this, they should have announced it as a spin-off instead failing this
being compared to 3H killed it
It has more replay value than 3H though. Because its gameplay is actually engageing and has more meaningful and varied options to it.
3H has almost no replay value outside of playing through the different story routes. And even then the common route that you have to replay every time is more of a chore than anything.
Also isn't Faerghast is kind of a moron generally?
There are so few characters that are appealing enough to use, and you probably just ran them in your first run. Not to mention the exquisite, critically acclaimed "gameplay" only really comes online after 12+ chapters.
Wrong. I'm on my 2nd maddening run now and it's even funner than my first. I'm glad I did it since I was able to play around with all kinds of builds I didn't try the first time around, plus my first playthrough was dlc-free.
I dont like the design of either MC (I usually play male because Im not a degenerate and prefer my relationships to be between male and female)
I dont like the forced cocksucking of all the old fire emblem main characters (usually not my favs)
I dont like the design of the other characters either since a majority of them look like vtuber trash (I dont like vtubers)
You are now allowed to insult me because I mentioned subjective reasons on why I didnt bother with the game, and this somehow affected you personally to the point of anger.
Have a good day
>Mozu's best class isn't even Dread Fighter, it's by all means Archer
Good luck grinding her on the Archer class on a Lunatic ironman AKA the only way to actually beat conquest
Dread Figher makes her good straight away and even has increased growth rates compared to spending 20 levels on a bad class
she gets a shitload of levels just on her join chapter and im pretty sure oneshots every flier on port dia at base dude
well yeah obviously. Story and aesthetic is the most important thing in games that impacts your legacy. Otherwise it will be forgotten in two weeks
The fact this is true makes me hate casuals so much.
Fates and Engage are peak FE.
Engage's gameplay is nothing special. Adding a gay weapon triangle that only gives you player phase stun is not the EPIC LE GENRE TRANSFORMING GAMEPLAY PARADIGM SHIFT you obnoxious gays claim it is.
But the maps are great.
Maps are not all of, or even half of, gameplay. And no, the shitty maps in Engage are not great.
>adding
Fucking newgay
Yeah, they ADDED the triangle back in except gay and incomplete this time. It's not the real weapon triangle.
Are you an ESL, Pablo?
Are you? Re-read your own post you fucking dunce.
Yup, it's an ESL. He thinks my post implies that it's a new feature for Engage (but it kind of is in its shitty current implementation) when nothing in it states so.
Need me to type that out in Spanish, amigo?
That is literally what your post implies you fucking mongoloid.
You illiterate mongrel, name another game with Break mechanic.
Peak dogshit you mean
>Conquest
kill boss
kill boss
rout
seize
kill 4 enemies
rout
kill boss
seize
defend
kill boss
escape in 16 or kill boss
rout
kill boss
escape in 20 or kill boss
kill boss
kill boss
kill boss in 20
rout
seize
escape
seize
seize
seize
kill boss
seize
kill boss
kill boss
>Engage "PEAK FIRE EMBLEM"
rout
rout
kill boss
rout
kill boss x7
escape no rush tho wouldnt want u to feel any pressure 🙂
rout
kill boss
kill boss
escape HAHA NO gay KILL BOSS
kill boss x 11
FE6 is a good FE game and that has almost only seize, you can still make varied maps with the same objective
weird way of saying fe3 and thracia
The localization is awful, are you really try to say that's peak fire emblem?
>The localization is awful, are you really try to say that's peak fire emblem?
Yes? Shit localization is a fire emblem staple
See FE7 fucking up weapon effectiveness and PoR renaming normal mode to hard and removing the actual hard mode
Engage is peak FE
>PoR renaming normal mode to hard and removing the actual hard mode
That's a good thing though. PoR manic mode is a legit mistake. Its not even that hard, just unfun. The enemy turns take like, 2 fucking hours in the end game.
Fates and Engage aren't peak anything.
Peak writing? FE4.
Peak Gameplay? FE5.
Peak Artstyle? Literally any other FE.
>4
>writing
For me, it's Sigurd fucking Deidre literally 3 turns after meeting her for the first time on a village
the man is a holy blood lord gigachad who rides a horse and wears a fancy white coat, it just works
there's usually a gap of a year between chapters, so it's not inconcievable that Sigurd banged Deirdre between chapter 1 and 2
>Peak writing? FE4.
Balhalla is literally the highlight of 4, afterwards it becomes a very generic FE.
>Peak writing? FE4.
Is FE4's story really that great? I haven't played the game, but I don't hear much about the plot outside of the handful of major plot points.
They sound cool imo, but what about the rest of the writing?
FE4 has a very serviceable story which for FE standards is the peak of the series. It's probably helped by the fact that it's more "grounded" (there's still magic, ancient evil dragon gods etc but you know what I mean) and has darker themes than the rest of the series. And the plot twist helped build this reputation as well.
Plot is the only good thing about 4. Other than that you're not missing anything.
Fe4 have a DECENT story and gameplay, other FE games totaly fail to get both rights. this is why FE4 have that masive circle of jerk
>and gameplay
Its fun when you speed it up by 2x
Yeah I give you that. one the benefits of emulators
FE gameplay is mediocre at best you fucking brainlet. The only reason it ever became popular in both Japan and overseas is because of it's characters. I hate your pretentious gay ass just as much.
what is eliwood's character
What a pointless question. Did you think you're being clever or something? A character doesn't have to be "good" or "deep" for them to be likeable nor does it have to be the main character. Lyn is just a much of a piece of cardboard and she's one of the most popular characters in the franchise. Heroes only makes money because of people's attachment to the characters. I'd like to know what you think you're trying to prove.
what is marth's character
He's from smash and he beats fox by grabbing him on final destination
>a character doesn't have to be good to be likable
popularity =/= quality
in engage's case it has neither 🙂
true
popularity and likability are two entirely different things bro
Don't care, game is fun. Check out the randomizer that came out recently:
https://github.com/LordMewtwo73/feEngage-randomizer
autistic shit
>playing the game with different settings is autistic
So do you hate all fun or just video games?
Yes
Video games were a mistake
That's why I want more VN fire emblem games like 3H 2
how did Toothpastechan even leak before Three Houses was released?
she didnt you dumbass, toothpaste leaked last summer
that's what happens when you hire a twitter chud to design your characters
Perhaps it was the entire theme of "remember this old character??" that is always annoying.
Eceleb garbage should be a banneable offense
I prefer Engage’s “arrive, generate discussion for one to two months about gameplay, leave” then the YEARS of artificial circlejerking 3H.
There was more real discussion of engage in two months then there was of years of 3H
>There was more real discussion of engage in two months then there was of years of 3H
https://arch.b4k.co/v/search/subject/Fire%20Emblem%20Engage/start/1%2F1%2F2023/end/2%2F1%2F2023/
HAHAHAHAHAHA
>then
nice samefag lmao.
>artificial circlejerking 3H.
Kek no people circlejerked 3H because they liked it. It was the one month of Engage discussion that was completely artificial shills who all fucked off when their contract ended.
>artificial
He thinks people liking the routes and argueing in their defense is artificial longevity.
Nah, they circlejerk it because it has dating sim elements, what 3h fans want is not an FE game, it's an SRPG persona game. 3trannies and engagechads are nothing alike.
>because it has dating sim elements
You mean just like Engage? lmao
Engage has social sim and romance shit too its just nobody cares about the game so it never gets mentioned
It's barely present in Engage, which is exactly why 3trannies hate Engage.
>It's barely present in Engage, which is exactly why 3trannies hate Engage.
Literally all the dating sim shit from 3H is in Engage and they even added more new autistic minigames.
The reason nobody talks about the dating sim shit in Engage is because nobody likes any of its characters. It has more than 3H but nobody is interested in seeing it because the cast's personalities are like you ran a fishing trawl through Reddit and scooped up random posters.
They did get rid of paired endings for some reason but you're still correct
Engage threads are literally people circlejerking over the princess and yunaka
>Faer
Disregarded
>translation sanitizes and removes the personality of every character
>"Why did no one like our game based on character interactions?"
Localization was pure dog shit. Not gonna buy censored crap written by people who don't know how to do their job.
Pretty much my reason.
>DUUUUUUDE WHY DOES THE 300 HOUR LONG GAME HAD MORE DISCUSSION THAN THE 50 HOUR ONE
Alright fags, here's my pitch for a new mainline FE game:
>10 routes, each one has around 60 hours. Each route can't have more than 2 unique maps because that's a bad thing
>don't make a true route so your autistic fanbase thinks that the plot is actually deep
>make replayability an absolute fucking chore by tying unit's skill and class progression to a shitty slow ass repetitive system
>add NG+ because that's a FE staple and any FE game that doesn't include is automatically a shitty game
Hire me IS
I think I just heard Maeda cumming
>add NG+ because that's a FE staple and any FE game that doesn't include is automatically a shitty game
how to show that you only played 3homos you chud, FE never had NG+ ever you secondary shitface
>he never unlocked the secret NG+ mode in gaiden
My fuckin sides
This ESL moron literally can't understand sarcasm lmfao.
>He doesn't know about PoR's second playthrough goodies like fixed growths or bands
>He doesn't know about RD requiring a cleared save for the true ending
Holy fucking they're not that important, I don't blame you for forgetting or not even considering them NG+
that's not NG+ you retarded monkey also Pelleas sucks mayor dick
>Bonuses to game based on beating it already
Sounds like NG+ to me
You are a dumb motherfucker
>FE never had NG+
who's gonna tell him?
>Alienate most of the current fanbase by including pre-Awakening references and not enough romance sim shit
>Alienate old fans with nu-Emblem writing
>Alienate everyone with the character designs (even if there are a few good ones)
And its a shame because the gameplay is actually fun
>including pre awakening references
Lots of even modern Fire emblem fans know who Lyn/Ike are
Because the writing is bad and people got bootyblasted by the protag's hair
Oh it's this thread. Let me summarize the next few hours:
>Ugly art/characters
>Story sucks, "but fire emblem games never had a good story" shit flinging
>Muh gameplay without the ability to explain or defend their reason why
>Mika Pikazo is a hack/chud
>Needing to compare EnGAYge to the worst parts of 3HRT, one of the weaker fe games, because of how bad it is.
>>Muh gameplay without the ability to explain or defend their reason why
Engage is good because:
>Pre-promoted units are usable and often better than their unpromoted counterparts, thus filtering muh growth shitters
>Engage is HEAVILY player phase oriented (rechargeable 4 unit dance skill, Engage attacks in general, Sigurd allows for high movement, Chain Attacks, etc)
>Enemy phase shitters still have their own toys to play with in the form of Bonded Shield
>AI is smart enough to avoid taking zero damage and suiciding, which encourages the use of using high def/res units as actual walls to funnel enemies, encouraging smart placement of units
>Staves are insanely OP, Obstruct is one of the best staves in the entire series and you can buy it like candy, Micaiah allows for multi-unit Warping, etc
>Class skills are not that important, meaning a higher reliance on movement and weapon types
>Fixed Growths mode means shitters can't bitch about getting stat screwed
My only gameplay complaint is that the DLC items get auto dumped into your inventory
>Pre-promoted units are usable and often better than their unpromoted counterparts, thus filtering muh growth shitters
>Fixed Growths mode means shitters can't bitch about getting stat screwed
Sure Agree.
>Engage is HEAVILY player phase oriented (rechargeable 4 unit dance skill, Engage attacks in general, Sigurd allows for high movement, Chain Attacks, etc)
>Enemy phase shitters still have their own toys to play with in the form of Bonded Shield
Agree somewhat my grievances with this is mostly the break mechanic being awful. A traditional weapon triangle would've been significantly better.
>AI is smart enough to avoid taking zero damage and suiciding, which encourages the use of using high def/res units as actual walls to funnel enemies, encouraging smart placement of units
All this does is cause them to clump up and pass. The game is supposed to "Punish" you for turtling/taking long with reinforcements but with the defensive tools you have available to you such as corrin terrain combined with thieves you are never in any real danger. That AI often works against it as enemies won't even try to RNG you at ~10-13% hit rate when they only take 1-2 damage back.
>Staves are insanely OP, Obstruct is one of the best staves in the entire series and you can buy it like candy, Micaiah allows for multi-unit Warping, etc
I agree. It's a shame there aren't any defend maps or more than 1 escape map to promote the usefulness of staves like obstruct and freeze.
>Class skills are not that important, meaning a higher reliance on movement and weapon types
Classes in general feel like an afterthought. If they wanted to go this route and place emphasis on rings, every unit should've been class locked without the ability to second seal truly the cancer of fire emblem or reset their level. Weapon types feel pointless as the break mechanic is often incredibly underwhelming whether its on player phase or enemy phase and it not working on bosses is laughable.
>Agree somewhat my grievances with this is mostly the break mechanic being awful. A traditional weapon triangle would've been significantly better
I disagree, largely on the basis that the weapon triangle has ONLY mattered in Genealogy (for it's +/-20% hit rate crippling some units) and SD/NM (because it's the difference between enemies on Hard 5/Luna R dealing bonus WTA damage). Break hardly matters in practice since actual armors are immune to it and Advanced classes having access to 2 weapon types typically. Alternatively, you can bait out swarms of enemies with Great Aether since it won't matter of you get broken on EP during that (same for Hector and his Engage attack if you're a paypig)
>That AI often works against it as enemies won't even try to RNG you at ~10-13% hit rate when they only take 1-2 damage back.
This is demonstrably false. Enemies will only not attack you if you they deal 0 damage or have 0% hit rate, with the sole exception of getting a chain attack in on you. This is why Fallen Star is insanely good on Maddening, it practically turns your unit invisible.
>All this does is cause them to clump up and pass
Which is a good thing the game is heavily PP oriented. Alternatively, it's a great thing so many objectives are Defeat The Boss(es) so you can continue rushing and ignoring the less important enemies
Generally agree with everything else you've said, but:
>it not working on bosses is laughable.
Bosses with break would be too easy. My real gripe is the lack of partial effectiveness against bosses on Maddening
The prophecy has been fulfilled
Lesbians
People are sick of them
Game would be fine, if not for lesbians.
If you keep adding them in your games, don't be surprised your games will keep failing.
all the characters in engage are bisexuals, THOUGH
VIDEOgames are fundamentally a visual medium
if your game looks bad, i will not even pirate it
engage looks bad
Here's the 3 main reason
1. nostalgia wank, except westoid fans don't feel nostalgic towards pre-Awakening series
2. v-tuber design
3. extreme linguistic censorship
/thread
no Baeleth my luv
Franchise celebration games like Engage are better as spin-offs (Dissidia/Persona Q) instead of full fledged entries. It's a card you can really play once and it feels like a human centipede ouroboros.
I don't give a fuck about the fanservice "remember this old character!?" shit, but the stuff Emblems as equips, weapons and skills brought to the table was honestly really cool and I hope we get more like it in a less retarded fashion
Three houses was bad enough but they've been running it into the ground so hard i didn't even feel the desire to play engage and I'm a fan of the series
So is fire emblem’s popularity dying? I heard it did worse than rtdl deluxe, which is a remake.
>So is fire emblem’s popularity dying?
Definitely. The monastery garbage in 3H killed older fans and prevented newer players for getting in the franchise. Imagine having 3H as your first game and wanting to play another fire emblem game after enduring that piece of shit school
>I heard it did worse than rtdl deluxe, which is a remake
Tendies hate good video games, what else is new? Also, kirby got shilled a lot while engage only got 1 single nintendo direct
KEK this retard is trying to spin Engage being a fat flop on 3H.
Hey tardbro, you know that 3H being the best selling game also came with it having incredibly long legs, you know, the opposite of Engage?
>3H being the best selling game
Switch bonus. See pokeshit hitting new sale records despite all of the controversies and the games being objectively shit
>having incredibly long legs
Smash bonus
3H will be the Megaman Battle Network 4 of Fire Emblem. The best selling game of the franchise and also the one game that killed newcomer's interest due to the game being absolute fucking garbage
>sad cope
>more sad cope
fucking Engagefags KEK
If it's a switch bonus, why is engage selling worse than awakening?
I don’t even dislike engage or love 3H but this is just blatantly untrue, 3H hit the normie crowd and was the only time FE has ever been able to do so, that’s why it sold so well
>Highest selling game in the franchise
>Infinitely repayable despite the map recycling due to freedom of unit customization through skills, classes and battalions
>Passes the porn test
Definitely killed the franchise
>Infinitely repayable despite the map recycling due to freedom of unit customization through skills, classes and battalions
And does an objectively worse job than Awakening and Fates that came out prior 3H
What's even there to experiment in 3H? Classes are pointless due to master classes being hybrid shit except not really, which makes Wyvern Lord objectively the best class of the game. And for some fucking reason, every class is allowed to wield any weapon except fists and magic, so wyvern lords are better sword users, lance users, axe users which doesn't fucking matter because there's no weapon triangle than the rest of the classes AND also better fucking bow users
And unlike those two games, you don't have to constantly grind professor points and increase student motivation to even reach that point
Literally tell me what else is there to do in 3H other than going full fliers, some gremories or the broken DLC flier mage class and 1 war master if you're feeling cocky
>inb4 muh avoid tank
>inb4 duuuuude mortal savanat is fun you're just a tryhard that refuses to play on normal casual and grind infinite skirmishes on NG+++
>3H
>infinitely replayable
lol, lmao even
Barely a normie even bothered to play through more than one route and most core FE fans fucking hate 3H gameplay wise and wouldn't replay it unless offered money
>3h
>infinitely replayable through the snail's pace customization that's only good with repeat ng+ playthroughs
it's megaman x8 all over again without it having the privilege of preceding a shittier game, no wonder it's so shit
*a preceding shittier game
fug
I liked 3H more than Engage, but that garbage is not replayable at all. The monastery shit and recycling of maps outside of CF really kills any replayability.
Game sold 1.6 million from the last Nintendo investment report, that's pretty good for a FE title. Three Houses was an enigma with how well it did.
It's the worst non-remake release since before Awakening and half of the fanbase hates it. It's pretty bad.
>and half of the fanbase hates it.
That half only ever played 3H, their opinion ain't worth shit
Yes it's dying because Engage obliterated any popularity 3H gained and now the Jugdral remake will suffer because of it
they should make a FE for their real audience aka retarded women who play in normal/casual who want a VN on their censored dating sim
they did, it was called Awakening and it saved the series since you 'GAY PLAY ONLY' fags (who mysteriously don't just play better SRPGs, weird) didn't buy the games. It's almost like you and everyone like you are just casual LARPing fuckwads?
COPE
aww the chudeda fag still seethes that 3H sold more, btw Tiki and Fjorm are shit you bugman queer
>they should make a FE for their real audience aka retarded women who play in normal/casual who want a VN on their censored dating sim
They've done that multiple times already and they were called Genealogy of the Holy War and Sacred Stones. FE8 is literally an otome game where your handsome knight solos every map for you.
Nothing, the game is filtering normalfags as it should.
only normalfags bought a game with a character that looks like a circus clown on the box LEL
Its a real FE after years and years of slop
They hated him, for he spoke the truth
It has too much gameplay, should've been a high school dating sim like 3H
Engage actually is on the smaller end of total stages, sounds like a cope to me
not that you played any other FEs
26 main maps, 15 paralogues and they're actually unique maps (a completely foreign concept to 3H)
That's on the longer end for the series
>This is demonstrably false. Enemies will only not attack you if you they deal 0 damage or have 0% hit rate, with the sole exception of getting a chain attack in on you. This is why Fallen Star is insanely good on Maddening, it practically turns your unit invisible.
I remember them not attacking, might've been under 10%. I haven't touched engage in a month since I beat it though very possible I was wrong.
>Bosses with break would be too easy. My real gripe is the lack of partial effectiveness against bosses on Maddening
You're not wrong but it leads to the player questioning "why the fuck is this even in the game" if it barely matters versus regular enemies and the one place it would matter, it doesn't work.
Overall I don't hate Engage from a gameplay perspective, I just dont think its peak FE gameplay like some claim. It generally better than 3h and awakening but has much room for improvement. It's everything else around Engage that sours me from ever playing it again. I'll boot up POR again because I actually like characters like Marcia and Haar and like making shitty units like Mia and Zihark work by investing bexp and energy drops into them. For Engage there's none of that feeling I hate everyone.
>15 paralogues and they're actually unique maps (a completely foreign concept to 3H)
The paralogues not having the same objectives as their original is a sin.
Didn't tag, I'm retarded.
>likes Mia which has no personality other than having a shitty dub voice in RD and huge tits and delicious lickable armpits and is trash
>hates the Bouch which has no personality and is trash
Why are you forcing yourself so hard to hate engage?
It's the zoomers
The main character's design is so obnoxious and abhorent that I did not even pirate the game. That this is what they went with is a flashing neon sign, "the people in charge are either hopelessly incompetent or not paying any attention at all"
>"the people in charge are either hopelessly incompetent or not paying any attention at all"
Ironically, the gameplay appeals way more to oldfags than nu FE tards
I didn't buy the game because of lack of cohesion of characters. The games have been steadily getting worse but this one in particular really felt like they wanted to just make a gacha game. None of the characters really meshed together and it ended up looking really silly.
I think some of the footage I saw had literally clowns or something? It seemed comically bad.
>but this one in particular really felt like they wanted to just make a gacha game.
the director flat out said it was a game aimed at children and newcomers to get them into FEH
>but this one in particular really felt like they wanted to just make a gacha game.
There are literal sections in this game outside of the maps where you run around or do minimal chores like petting your deformed kawaii uguu dog, where you pick-up this currency that can be used to speed-up your bond levels with your Emblem Rings or pull for weaker rings.
The monastery in 3H wasn't perfect by any means either, but what Engage is doing is obvious trying to rot the brain of its playerbase into thinking that this time wasting gacha design nonsense is even remotely acceptable gameplay. Its even more obvious that IS is trying to lure people into this mindset if you paid attention to their mobile game. After they released Engage, the new units they released in their mpobile game are all from Engage! Wow, what a coincidence!
No, Somniel is infinitely better than what 3H had to offer.
It's called promoting the most recent game retard. They did the same with 3H in Heroes. You would get a free Male Byleth for buying 3H within a certain amount of time.
There's only been a single engage banner since the game released, which makes it even more baffling
Ahhhh I love drinking the tears of the retarded. If Engayge copers could get a little more angry and incomprehensible in their ESL posts that would be great
Are you me? But yeah, fuck those haughty bitches. It's not only that Engayd looks atrocious and the plot is utter garbage, Fire Emblem is now a magnet of insufferable retards the likes Pokemon or Zelda.
>Fire Emblem is now a magnet of insufferable retards the likes Pokemon or Zelda.
No thanks to 3H honestly.
It should be mandatory to have your age and first game you of the franchise you beat to voice opinion on any franchise.
Awakening was the game that brought you gays in. All 3H did was add more of you.
that is the dumbest comparisons since people that liked awakening hated 3H and wanted more moe anime slop which was Engage
3H chads are actually normal well adjusted individuals who like 3 kingdoms media
>3H chads are actually normal well adjusted individuals
lol
>3H chads are normal well adjusted individuals
>3H chads are actually normal well adjusted individuals who like 3 kingdoms media
AHAHAHAHAHAHA
>All 3H did was add more of you.
All 3H did invite 1.5 million chuds to the series.
like 75%+ of them identified as male when they played awakening :^)
>Fire Emblem is now a magnet of insufferable retards the likes Pokemon or Zelda.
I think that's just every video game now. The whole hobby is infested with brain dead normies.
SHEZ SWEEP BAYBEE!
I thought hating Engage and saying it was a failure was a Ganker contrarian thing, but even the normalfags think Engage was a flop as well?
People are fucking stupid, we literally have numbers from Nintendo
It's not the only people who like engage are zoomies, trannies and a handful of of actual fe fans just because it passes the minimum threshold of being a fire emblem game.
MOESHIT
WE WANT GAMES OF THRONES NOT SHOUNEN SHIT
Why doesn't IS just make an FE game with good gameplay, writing and art direction?
because IS gets dabbed on by the fucking people who made Dynasty Warriors 9
LOL
You get to pick one and only one per game
Because for whatever reason they are letting this dumb slut write some of their games.
She is fucking horrible
how was codename S.T.E.A.M plotwise and characterwise ? I'd assume it takes itself less seriously than FE which would fit her writing, like warioware
>THAT GAME LIST
>THAT FUCKING GAME LIST
Shit I think you just found the real culprit anon. And she is becoming worse!
I really don’t blame her, I blame the people who hired. But you guys are too retarded to see the forest through the trees.
Who's dick is she sucking?
How the fuck did she go from the decent/reasonable writing of Awakening to the pile of garbage that was Fates, to the clusterfuck of Engage?
>engage
>clusterfuck
>good writing
>japan
Japan can have good writing, but it's just rarer to have really good writing. Most of it's better then the generic western writing slop at the very least.
you are having too much faith in I$I$ even after fates fiasco
pic unrelated on all 3
>why did we fail
EPIC NOSTALGIA GAME
for the parts of the FE series that only Japanese people feel nostalgic about
Japanese series
>EPIC NOSTALGIA GAME*
>*that did it worse than TMS which was also a flop but at least had big Tsubasa tiddies
Engage is still better since it wasn’t all Awakening slop
>Engage is still better
seems that, by every single metric one judges games on, sales, critical reception, reviews, etc., it's not. OBJECTIVELY. LOL
That game remains one of the most inexplicable things in this industry. There's been other flops and screw-ups, but imagine taking two of the hottest weeb properties, promising a crossover, and then offering... that.
Admittedly, Engage has worse character design.
Honestly, thinking on it, Engage probably lost like half a mil in sales simply because the main character looked stupid... well, stupid in a way that clashed with the expected aesthetic of FE. And there wasn't enough coomer-bait to them to overcome the backlash by drawing in new fans, like XC2 experienced from XC1 fans.
>promising a crossover, and then offering... that.
the funny part is it's not THAT terrible if you try playing it (well, honestly depends on how much you can stand idolshit) and it would've sold pretty well had Nintendo not BUTCHERED the game with censorship and then made that version the global version so even the Moon people had a Treehouse'd up pozz fest.
Just an amazingly amusing sequence of bad decisions.
>game censored in the west on wiiu, which is a big negative for niche games where the customerbase is more aware of these sorts of things
>rerelease it for the switch
>use the censored western version as a base for switch rerelease meaning even japs get fucked
>shit got so bad Nintendo offered refunds for japanese customers
TMS was just blunders after blunders
>offered refunds for japs only
I'm so utterly sick of this bullshit.
source?
https://twitter.com/bk2128/status/1185168658898640897
They don't even hide anymore, huh.
trannoid thing wearing masonic black and white shirt with adam's apple right there.
It's a married biological woman who does promotional stuff for Atlus Japan.
ah yes, my senses and eyes are lying to me. But not a soulless bot like you.
that giant adam's apple is just the my imagination. Just the wind.
yeah...right.
YOU WILL NEVER BE A TACTICIAN ANYMORE WHO KILL KING,GODS AND DRAGON WITH HIS BRAIN.
YOU WILL BE THE CHOOSEN ONE DRAGON WHO WIN BECAUSE HE IS BORN TO WIN
If I am paying $70 fucking dollars, then of course I should be the chosen one with a big sword. And you should give me a harem of hot anime girls in my army. Fucking bitch. What do you think I am paying for?
if i pay 70$ dollars i want to suffer like i was in a real war.
i want to see everyone around me dying and accept the lesser evil to survive.
anything else is 5$ chinkslop
Sadly I$ would rather pander to fragile self inserters
can't wait for isekai harem emblem
"Tactician" is literally just Robin you retard
RObin is a cuck
Mark was the man without anem from the dollar trilogy.
came see conquer
You act as if the Tactician was an actual part of the game and not something so completely tertiary that you could pretty much pretend he's Lyn's imaginary friend.
Replay value is super high if you're not a retarded moron, sadly that applies to all "FEtubers" automatically
>infant is enthralled by his jangling keys
what a shock
If some twatter chud cries about it then Engage did everything right.
Why do FEfags even care about stuff like staying power and sales to the point of comparing them with other games in the series?
It sold enough to continue the franchise and the next mainline game is going to have another massive shift just like FE almost always does.
autism, tribalism, more autism
Because FEtards are retarded
That's what I'm saying. As long as it sold well and was fun enough, why the flying fuck does it matter that normies or secondaries stopped talking about it?
The FE fanbase is extremely fractured due to the changes that occur each game that you mentioned. The sides look for any reason to shit on each other in their efforts to crown what is "true FE" and how the franchise should move forward (tl: make more of the FE game(s) that I liked). You have GBAfags and Telliusfags disagreeing, FE4fags and Fatesfags arguing, 3Hfags and Engagefags snapping at each other and the next mainline game is guaranteed to have more of the same.
Imagine the SMTfag VS. Personafag shitflinging, except if there was also a Devil Survivor camp, a TMS camp, etc. in the fray.
Just give me a non-dogshit story and its fine. The old games didn’t have this problem
I'd say mostly only the people who hate engage for some reason or have a vested interest in it "failing" especially compared to 3H care too much about it's sales.
>why do you care about the series you like being profitable?
is this a serious question?
Why would you care about a vidya franchise being profitable? The only thing I give a shit about is a game selling enough to either get a sequel or keep the studio afloat for more games from them.
>He plays Fire Emblem when Xcom exists
I quit Engayge after Ch 10 though and I bought Xcom 2 and all its DLCs off of GMG for 7 bucks yesterday, though?
You can also try X-Piratez
I really fucking hate Alear, at least Corrin has fap potential but that gay is my least liked Lord now.
its quite funny how "member all those dudes from smash bros" didn't help this game to sell
I have seen this exact post before.
And it's still right.
Why are you posting the same posts over and over again? Are you an unironic NPC?
That was not me, but I was in that other thread. It's cathartic to soak in Engagefags tears.
>posting FEtuber shit unironically
have a nice day
The reason it fell off is because it didn't have 3H tribalism/politics shit flinging creating endless arguments
Nothing else.
TL:DR
It was not as interesting.
It provided me far more hours of fun gameplay than 3H so it succeeded in the only metric that matters
>Ghast
nope, I ain't watching your cringe FE E-Celebs!
The Advance Wars remake gave me more fun than either Engage or 3H and I’ve never played that series before.
It wasn't wacky high school where you can make ships and kin accounts for the danganronpa twitter audience
you forgot to call it Reddit, cringe, Tok Tok, and Facebook, retard
Fire Emblem had more romance in it and 'shipping' before Danganronpa was even out.
FE fags project HARD
KEK
>how to miss the point 101
because dragons are stoopid
they need to include more persona-like elements!
Unironically this, their biggest mistake was trying to go back, waifugayry and social links was what saved the franchise with awakening and that's the core audience now
FE should be more westernized so you big babies will stop bitching
Bring back Kozaki
Fire Emblem as a franchise should've died years ago, what fucking characters are there to give a shit about anymore? No chad mercenaries, no black knights, no buy.
>dlc completely ruins a perfectly balanced maddening mode
What were they thinking
just don't buy the dee eel cee retardbro?
So the dlc is trash.
>Balanced
>When Chloe, Byleth, Sigurd and Micaiah
>chloe
>unbalanced
>Chloe
????????
She's shit
Everything needs to have an easy button to appease the modern gamer. Its the same reason why ports of old games almost always come with save states and rewinds included.
Challenge? What's that?
ur mom is the dark cult and my dick is the evil dragon demon or god
haha cry more kaga chud you got exposed
Why is it always the gay defending the most effeminate LGBTQ/leftoid pandering games that call other people "chud"?
Could it be projecting?
>Exiled prince and his army of misfits VS evil manipulated empire controlled by a dark cult that worships a evil dragon, demon or god
KINO
gameplay was fun but the characters unequivocally sucked and the fan base clearly cares about characters
Back in my day, we got an armor knight who had 1 line of dialogue in the entire game and we liked it and still cried when he permadied.
>Back in my day, we got an armor knight who had 1 line of dialogue in the entire game and we liked it and still cried when he permadied
I'm pretty sure Oswin had more than one line of dialogue
Rpgs/Srpgs tend to need a good story and or characters to feel like a complete experience.
Having this
is better than having a cast of outright dislikable freaks like engage does.
>Rpgs/Srpgs tend to need a good story and or characters to feel like a complete experience.
it's a game with permadeath, which means getting attached to the characters is part of the experience since you may adjust your tactical choices depending on who you prefer and try to keep most people alive. Like in Xcom even if most soldiers barely have a personality, they're still unique and their feats can create an attachment. In advance wars everyone on the battlefield is a faceless mook so you don't really care about such matters.
>still cried when he permadied
you reset-ed the chapter you cuck unless you were Ironmaning
Never even finished it, got to maybe chapter 17 and simply couldn't be bothered to continue. The gameplay was horrible, every mission was a miserable slog. And the characters and story were ass.
Which Fire Emblem have staying power?
persona houses
>persona
not even remotely close, but you retards keep pushing it. Play coldsteel if you want to see the actual game 3h aped
i like how people still pushing the gameplay is better meme just give it back to Koei Tecmo so we get another kino kingdom wars FE
I swear to God the posts talking about this game are always near identical in every single thread and accompanied by the same fucking pics. It's like the same fags from 3H threads that kept regurgitating the same shit for months.
>Trunks(Broly)
D tier fighter at best.
>It's like the same fags from 3H threads that kept regurgitating the same shit for months.
I wonder why that could be...
What happened to Berniebro?
No matter how much you whine and cry you won't return to Fodlan anytime soon
If the direction ISIS is taking is something akin to the shitshow that was Engage, that's a good thing!
It sold surprisingly well, considering how godawful the main character's design is. Seriously, it's the character you see the most onscreen, why would you make him look like a pepsi advertisement?
>Edelgard is obviously the villain
>join her
>game whitewashes everything she does to try to paint her as a hero
I just wanted to be the bad guy and now people think I'm a simp
>Edelgard
>Wants to name your unit "the black eagle strike force" or some shit
>Tell her "no lmao that's gay"
>"too bad"
Should've been given the choice to behead her right then and there.
out of all the little fe fanbases between the games, the most tribalistic, confrontational, combative ones happen to come from three houses: the game most popular amongst newfags and twittertrannies
makes you think
They should've just made a mainline FEH game if they're going to ape the concept yet do it worse in every conceivable way.
>3h chads are actually normal well adjusted individuals
you are a persona chud who loves to grind
Focused too much on gameplay. The average consooomer wants a waifu simulator, not a fun strategy game.
Explain Conquest which was both
What's your point? Conquest could have been the worst game in the series and people would have still bought it for Camilla's tits.
Agree Engage shouldve been bundled with Koikatsu.
finally a good post
The entire series has the problem of having a Conceptual Base (Lord, Evil Empire, Jagen and the rest of the archetypes, Dragons, Weapon Triangle, New units as the campaign goes on, ect) that it develops from, but it can't go more than 1-2 games without regressing back to that base and experimenting in an entirely different direction.
This creates micro-fanbases within the greater community based upon what game you came in with and they have different expectations.,
3H had this effect worst than most on account of it being so different but also being the first one on the Switch and therefore becoming for a new and much larger cohort of players what fire emblem is.
However 3H is so far removed from the platonic idea of Fire Emblem (1,6,9, and 11 are what I would argue get the closest but not quite for any of them) that any attempt to regress back to the mean and develop out again is going to get larger scale rejection and pushback.
i'm so tired of Ganker engage threads, just constant "why did it... LE FAIL???" OPs and a bunch of retarded takes as to why. so trite. just have a nice day. I'd rather not discuss it at all if every thread is gonna be like this.
>3H attracted the storyfags
>Engage attracted the gameplayfags
So what is the next FE game going to be like? Reminder that it needs to keep up the series tradition of being able to attract a fanbase that will fight for it and maybe one or two other FE games.
Leaks say Genealogy remake. Oh dear.
>Engage attracted the gameplayfags
hahahahhaha no, it attracted 5 year olds and people playing on normal who pretend on Ganker to play Maddening/Lunatic
You mean like every other game?
It's time to call in the graphicsfags
>(You) are a MEGA AWESOME they/them who EVERYONE loves even the villains.
>Because EVERYONE loves you, you will never be targeted for an attack on any of the maps
>go to the spirit of the goddess statue to change from body type A and B at any point in the game
>Anyone can have a paired ending with anyone
>EVERYONE has a dark tragic past and joined the war to overcome it
>Bringing back the rings from engage, the classes and monastery from 3 Houses
>When at the monastery everyone will act like everything is good at there is no war going on and youre all super awesome friends 🙂 like the somiel
>6 routes all using the same maps, all kill boss
>Mika Pikazo will design the characters again
>(You) are a MEGA AWESOME they/them who EVERYONE loves even the villains.
They tried this with Corrin and everyone hated it
Why did they do it again with Alear then?
>Engage attracted the gameplayfags
Are you nuts? Engage is the first Fire Emblem I won't play/buy and I started playing with a shitty half-done english patch of FE4 in the early 00's. I've tolerated enough shit with Fates.
>4fag
>gameplay
the fe4 remake will save the series by bringing back 3H-tier discussions on the morality of arvis 🙂
Bowser let Treehouse become localizers again instead of translators.
Engage is bad. Everything good about it was done better in older games.
Engage is a shit mechanic. Engage has shit characters. Engage has shit character design. There are no redeeming qualities.
>robs FEtubers of their profits
>ensures there will be no hour long lore videos about Edelgard
>fastens the noose around Heroes’ neck
good.
WTF? I love Fire Emblem Engay'd nao!
It's incredibly uninspired and forgettable, it just ”Exists” . If you played any other FE games you've already played Engage. It also has atrocious character design which is why none of them have caught on. The only one that gets waved around is Alear because lol it’s your main character self insert avatar which has plagued the series imo and it's nearly exclusively ironically to joke about how bad the design is.
5 6 9 Conquest Engage
If you hate a single one of those games then you simply hate FE
>inb4 4fags shilling their shitty open empty gaiden tier maps
>inb4 7fags shilling their shitty baby game full of enemies that don't do jack shit
>inb4 12fags shilling their shitty Kris solo simulator
>inb4 13fags shilling their shitty Robin solo simulator
>inb4 3HRTfags chuding out yet again
>Engage
Howdoyoudofellowkids.jpg but with a zoomer pretending to be an oldfag
>like a new game
>automatically a zoomer
How do I avoid this? Am I supposed to post a picture of my PS2 running Berwick Saga with a timestamp?
Am I a zoomer for starting with FE7 just like nearly every single boomer?
>PS2
>i-im not a zoomer guys
LOL
Sorry anon, I can't find my SNES and PS1 and there's no fire emblem on the GB
>tfw wanted to try the disc swap piracy PS1 trick again after failing it as a kid 2 decades ago but can't find the fucking console hold me bros...
Here you can borrow mine
You should've played the much superior Dracula's Curse.
Berwick is a zoomer game for EOPs
Wow it's almost like Visuals and Story is important to a game
Who knew having a shit art style and a shit story could kill again, especially when the gameplay hasn't changed at all compared to the previous game
Also, censoring your game doesn't help
>the gameplay hasn't changed at all compared to the previous game
i was with you until this point, anything is a blitzing godsend compared to 3h gameplay-wise
>especially when the gameplay hasn't changed at all compared to the previous game
Actually it did; this time it doesn’t take hours to do the filler sections unlike the Monastery
>B-BUT THE GAMEPLAY! THE GAMEPLAY IS ALL THAT MATTERS! IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT, Y-YOU SHOULD GO READ A BOOK!
I swear to god, I'm getting Conquest flashbacks with all this. At least Conquest looked halfway decent. I've seen people outright calling others "storyfags" like wanting a not retarded narrative is a negative now.
then you have people telling you
>dude just press start
like it's somehow acceptable to have a game's plot and dialogue so bad you're expected to skip them, and I didn't even skip conquest's dialogues but I couldn't stand engage's
Yes, just press start you fucking retard. At least the game lets you press start to skip atrocious cutscenes unlike pokemon, which people clearly don't mind beca
Also it's way better than 3H because skipping cutscenes > skipping gameplay. I can't be the only one spent the second half of 3H just spamming rest to skip the fucking monastery cancer
>dude just press start
this shit drives me up a wall guaranteed for the same reasons you listed. i love engage but the story is a legitimate criticism no matter how much you slur out "HURRRR JUST SKIP BRO XDDD" through that drooling mouth of yours. instead of having good story or good gameplay, why not just fucking have both? the last game to do that was radiant dawn and arguably fe12 if you can ignore the MU
god, this fanbase sucks
>but the story is a legitimate criticism
Engage didn't have a bad story though.
characters and dialog still make up the story, both of which are still horrendous
>both of which are still horrendous
I don't agree.
No anon, Engage has a bad story because it has Roy from Super Smash Bros Melee as a power up despite him having less than 4 lines in the entire game because the emblems do not participate on the plot and are literally just dragon balls
If instead of older characters you had some shitty new characters then the story would become 100000x better because retard logic
But no, newcomers feel confused when they see Micaiah instead of a generic healslut character because they haven't played Radiant Dawn yet, despite her being completely fucking irrelevant to the game's plot and writing
>But no, newcomers feel confused when they see Micaiah instead of a generic healslut character
Are you sure? Because I think most newcommers would go
>her engage move is to heal the entire army no matter how far away and lets you use staffs with no staff proficiency, I bet she's the heal ring
Engage's story isn't nearly as bad as people here try to parrot. It's not good don't get me wrong, but Fates story and character interaction is just so much worse that it is actually baffling to me there is people saying Engage is worse. Conquest and Revelation especially, but Conquest at least has the gameplay to carry it unlike Birthright and Revelation.
The thing is that Conquest and even Birthright who's gameplay at this point in fe I'd say is slightly above average have a few things going for them other than gameplay.
They share what is possibly the best music in the entire franchise and the character designs are, in general, pretty cool and memorable.
Engage has NOTHING going for it other than decent NOT peak gameplay. Forgettable music, infantilized story, cringe-worthy dialogue, awful character design that translates poorly into 3d, lack of map variety to force the "Sentai Henshin" battles with the rings.
Because of this even if the story may not be as bad as it was in fates, it will be perceived as and remembered as worse than fates because of how poorly received everything else around it was.
>Forgettable music, infantilized story, cringe-worthy dialogue
Music is subjective but the other half applies moreso to Fates than Engage because Engage never lost DLC due to chuddubs like Fates.
>Engage because Engage never lost DLC due to chuddubs like Fates
Maybe so, but I don't consider DLC ever when comparing games. I didn't play fates' dlc and I have no desire to touch Engage's either.
I don't even remember the Solm one lmfao. I vaguely remember Brodia's for sounding like it almost could fit in with RD's ost but that's about it.
>Radiant Dawn
>Good gameplay
lmao
enemy phase being long doesnt make the gameplay bad you moron
Elincia's Gambit alone mogs most of Engage's maps, I'm sorry you got filtered
>Gameplay hasn't changed at all
You didn't play the game.
Pic not related. That shit rocked.
You cannot post that pic without the 13 Emblem Prayer, c'mon man...
Awakening
>romance
>regular gameplay
>nice artstyle and character design
>mediocre story, ok setting (I like the continuity)
>nice soundtrack
>a handful of memorable characters
>fun child unit eugenics
>didn't play DLC so I can't comment
Fates
>romance
>amazing gameplay
>great artstyle and character design
>bad story, setting mostly ignored aside from Nohr, Hoshido, and Valla
>soundtrack is absolutely stellar
>a handful of memorable characters
>fun child unit eugenics
>more than one route (had to pay separately for each)
>good DLC
3H
>romance
>SHIT gameplay
>mediocre artstyle and character design
>good story, excellent setting
>ok soundtrack
>many memorable characters
>more than one route for free
>nice DLC
Engage
>no romance
>good gameplay
>mediocre to bad artstyle and character design
>mediocre story, setting doesn't matter at all
>forgettable soundtrack
>no memorable characters
>only one route
>good DLC
I just want a Fire Emblem with good gameplay, interesting characters, plot, and setting, romance, good music and more than one route (even just two will suffice)
>the gameplay hasn't changed at all compared to the previous game
Didn't you play it?
>only one route
After seeing the shit 3H pulled this is a blessing. Fuck route splits.
>>good story, excellent setting
Did we play the same 3H?
>Awakening
>regular gameplay
Maybe if it's your first FE and you're playing it like a JRPG min maxing all your characters through auxiliary battles on normal mode. But I would never call Chrobin anything other than shit gameplay.
Fates took Awakening's gameplay and made it really good.
Yeah that's why I said regular. Not good, not bad
Our perceptions are simply different. I think Fodlan is a good and complex setting and the Crests are a nice call back to Genealogy
I cannot in good faith call the plot of 3H good when it requires major characters to very dumb for the plot wheels to roll.
Which ones? It has been some time since I last played it, please refresh my memory. I'll admit Edeltard and Byleth are shit
>I'll admit Edeltard and Byleth are shit
The one with Edelgard, you know the one that's considered a great plot by the 3H audience.
We're on the same boat here. I couldn't force myself to finish her route
Fates' plot was like a jigsaw puzzle. They had the right pieces but arranged them completely wrong. Nohr, Valla and Anankos could have been great. I hope we get a remaster in 10 years
moron the only song from Engage I can remember is the Solm one because it's catchy. 7 years have passed since Fates' launch and I still catch myself humming to the songs. I'm sure the music budget was cut
>he doesn't whistle https://youtu.be/3SUJklS6_qg?t=89
Soulless
Literally didn't remember it existed until you posted it. It sounds good but is not memorable. I think the Sombron fight and Xenologue theme are good as well. Can't compare to Fates, however
>It sounds good but is not memorable
It's memorable to me.
3 House's plot is fine if you only play one route, which is clearly what all the normalfags did. That way there's only a few missteps like Blyat being stupid and not rewinding to save Rodrigue
It's only when you play other routes that you see how utterly fucking terrible everything is and you realize that characters are are doing cartwheels do justify their shitty behaviors in other routes and how 90% of the conflict would be resolved if people would just fucking talk to each other when they clearly realize that a lot of them want the same basic things
If 3H was just Dmitri's route or if it was split up into 3 games like fates was without any of the out of house monastery shit it would unironically be praised as being one of the best in the series.
>Everyone is suddenly a sales analyst
>Everyone is suddenly a huge fan of 3H despite shitting on it for the last 5 years
>Everyone is suddenly agreeing with an e-celeb despite shitting on them relentlessly
This fanbase is a joke.
3H was kept in the public consciousness longer because of shipfags and house/faction pride which generates fanart and ongoing discussion. Each house leader (bisexual looking darkskin guy, 'I can fix him' guy and 'girls get it done Schrodinger's lesbian') was tailor made for women to create fanfiction with a main character that didnt look like a clown like Engage's.
>Ruins fire emblem from ever looking good again.
I'll take the vtuber artist over Chinatsu every single day of the week.
Looks better than Chinatsu
Reading all the Quote retweets man, 3H may be the best selling game but holy fuck is it a fucking hell hole
it's one of my favorite FEs and i love the Vtubers aesthetic.
Glad to see GBA babs and 3Shitters still seethe about it, can't wait for the genealogy of war remake
I haven't played any FE games yet, but you really shouldn't pay attention to what the average normalfag has to say about a Japanese game. They are repulsed by anything foreign by instinct.
the problem here is normalfags ate 3H up and then completely disappeared for the next installment
My guess is that both Xeno and FE have come close to going dormant before due to a lack of sales but in their current state they don't have much to worry about. Both series have done enough to ensure they'll get at least a few more games and it'll take some massively unsuccessful entries to tank them completely.
FE has much to gain by losing the 3H audience who wants quirky VN plots.
>Losing audience is winning
Do you work for Netflix or Anheuser Busch?
>THINK ABOUT ALL THE POTENTIAL MONEY IS LOST
Why, do have stock?
do you get sentimental over a cancerous tumor?
FemAlear is cute idc
The hair really is the biggest fucking red flag possible
When that is what you are putting front and centre on all your promo material it tells me the rest of the game is somehow even more ugly/halfassed
Why does hair of all things trigger you dumb gays so much? God you're retarded.
Says the cuck malding over criticism of a cheap vtuber design.
Because it's fuck-ugly
nah, Alear is cute, you're a fucking gay. you're only complaining because you pick male like the proper gay that you are.
You have comically bad taste, queer
It looks bad.
gaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
it's fucking ugly retard
way too anime
i don't need to rationalize my innate disgust, it's biological
Funny considering how Engange has a much better story than 3House
moeshit is not story
moeshit is the cherry at the top
>story/character writing
Who the fuck cares about this post-Awakening
Edelchuds
>anime shit
>act suprise when have moe shit and generic tropes
I think Edelgard SUCKS
I thought it was garbage the moment i saw Toothpaste protag
Did they ever undo the shitty translation that pretty much removes all the dating sim elements and changes the characters personalities?
Is there at least a fucking fanmade patch to undo it?
Every Fire Emblem game sucks for one reason or another, Radiant Dawn and New Mystery of the Emblem come the closest to being good games.
Rent free, tr00nados, rent free!
Engage was the only FE engaging (heh) enough for me to play until i beat it, gameplay> everything else
>gameplay> everything else
Nice you should invest heavily into the NES and SMS
I still own both? i played castlevania again pretty recently, great game
>engaging
>DOOD LE USE YOUR INSTANT TELEPORT AOE / TELEPORT ACROSS MAP / SUPER CUTSCENE JOJO GHOST
Engage is fucking baby mode shit where your units don’t even matter and every play through is just attaching different stat blocks to your shitty meme ghosts
Still better than Pair Up. Still better than Combat Arts.
>AAHHH WHY DOES THE GAME GIVE YOU COOL ABILITIES AND MULTIPLE OPTIONS
what kind of retarded complaint is this?, all characters are viable and all maps have many ways to be solved, yes that is a good thing
>all characters are viable
> yes that is a good thing
you are the cancer killing video games
Bro just use Alfred, Anna, Bouch, Etie, Bunet and Timerra if you want dogshit units
>etie
>dogshit
Say that to my face and not online fucker and see what happens
Etie is bad Alcryst which is already a fucking terrible unit. Literally just use Panette if you want a good archer right from the gate
Actually, I am the Celine schizo. Celine is simply a much better levin sword user than Anna and doesn't constantly face 10% crits against everyone unlike Anna and Ivy
>Anna
Ivyschizo thinks he can pull a fast one without us noticing...
>Alfred
Agree
>Anna
Disagree. Just change her to High Priest and to Sage later. She was my first unit to reach 200+ rating
>Bencheron
Agree
>Etie
She's just ok
>Bunet
Never even used him lmao
>Timerra
She isn't that good but just raise her DEX bro
What is the purpose of useless/temporarily useful units?
>shilling Anna
Hello Normal/casual anon
>She isn't that good but just raise her DEX bro
No fuck off she's hot garbage. My Timerra got blessed, I gave her a dex tonic every map, gave her Leif due to the build bonus which would allow her to use the silver lance without any weight penalty and she was still absolute half
~30 dex endgame
Quadruple attack hits for 4x0
Sandstorm is an absolute fucking meme skill. She's absolute dogshit
>inb4 hurf durf just give her Lyn
>To be used as a tool to clear the map or that section of the game. If you're an actual gameplayfag and not just pretending as its the only thing you can desperately claw onto to defend this game, you'd agree.
If I wanted that kind of boring unreplayable shit then I would stick to Advance Wars anon. Etie being able to 1 shot fliers in chapter 3 already makes that map completely irrelevant. Every character has a niche except Bunet unless you're really that desperate on an ironman and it's your job to make them useful, not having the game play itself
Every single character in engage can be made good due to rings, especially Lyn's ring and the free arena. I wouldn't say they all have a niche when they can all make it to being end game monsters.
This has been the case since the game became skill-emblem in Awakening. The only chapters in the modern games that actually feel like fire emblem are always the first few early game chapters where you arent given a plethora or nu-fe tools to build super units.
>especially Lyn's ring
You only have one Lyn ring, and there are bad units that become good with Lyn while there are good units that become absolute cunt destroyers with Lyn. There's still some unit variety in the game
>free arena
30 exp and 15 SP per chapter isn't that game breaking anon
Honestly, I don't even consider Engage skill emblem. You only have 2 slots for customization, most of the time that 1 slot is going to be canter and most class skills are surprisingly shit. Your entire skill kit is on the ring, there's no insane combinations like in awakening, conquest and 3HRT
The most you can do to build super units is to use DLC emblems youdidnotbeatthegame since those guys are the ones that have super broken skills and engage weapons
Yes and because of how worthless classes are in engage a unit's usefulness can be heavily tied to their ring it's not just the Lyn ring any ring can bring any unit to being good. Regardless of who you put Lyn's ring on, Diamant, Lapis, Zelkov, Goldmary, fuckin anyone it never feels like you're playing that unit, you're playing the "Lyn Ring".
POR ch 8
RD Part 2 Endgame
RD Part 3 Ch 12 (plays like a defend map)
RD Part 3 Ch 13
Fates Ch 10
>Hello Normal/casual anon
I've used Anna in Maddening, it's not that bad. She's even pretty useful even before reclassing if you give her Micaiah and play around Chain Attacks.
The issue with Anna is sparing enough promotion items for her, which is a simple matter of pre-planning. Also you can grind master seals in relay trials push come to shove
>Timerra
I actually found her to be very strong in all of my playthroughs if you play to her defense stat. In Maddening she has enough defenses to actually allow her to enemy phase, which is incredibly valuable as weakening enemies for your player phase eases up a lot of thresholds. Having your Chain Attacker positioned in the enemy's range by the beginning of your turn before she herself acts helps a lot building long chains without needing to equip Dual Assit+ on Timerra herself.
That said she definitely wants the Fensalir, which is practically made for her, effect and everything.
If you wanna be gimmicky with Timerra and force her a strict Player Phase role one thing you can do is give her the Eirika Emblem and give her a Killer Lance with either an Eirika or Camilla Engrave. Between Eirika emblem's Luck and her own passive and luck stat you can cancel out the drawbacks from the dodge penalty and safely push her crit to absurd levels, which stack up nicely with Standstorm.
>you can grind master seals in relay trials push come to shove
Ninty thanks you for that NSO subscription
it's a family account, so it's cheap for a yearly service
The mario kart wii tracks being free is a nice bonus
The emulator games are kinda neat, playing them on an actual console/handheld device
I'm not coping
>Lyn
Wouldn't help Timerra because she actually has above average speed.
>Leif
Is a bad emblem and Bld isn't even her biggest problem because Engage lets you fix that trivially for everyone. Also, Quad Hit is notorious 0x4 late game.
Marth, Roy, Sigurd, Eirika and Ike are all better emblems for her.
>Wouldn't help Timerra because she actually has above average speed.
I have far better units to go rambo with Lyn than having Timerra do "something" wuth it
Leif is fucking atrocious but at least Leif is good on her. Also, each quad hit can proc sandstorm, so that's actually better than having her deal shit damage normally
Also, for her to keep her above average speed she needs that build bonus, unless you're ok with her dealing plain 0 damage with iron lances of course.
>Marth
Comes too late, can't use silver blade with lode rush
>Roy
I have better units to use him on. The stat bonus on an unit that can actually double without Lyn is too good to pass on
>Sigurd
She wishes. My wyvern knight Kagetsu with speedtaker was insane with Sigurd
>Eirika
Lmao what. Eirika is a waste on her. Every single physical unit benefits from Eirika, Timerra does nothing better to deserve Eirika
>Ike
And there goes her above average speed. Also, not taking Ike away from Panette
Leif has zero demand and there's some synergy with Timerra, so that's the only Emblem I'll give her
>Every single physical unit benefits from Eirika, Timerra does nothing better to deserve Eirika
What?
I'll toss it back at you, what is everyone else doing with Eirika that Timerra cannot do?
I'm going to agree with you that it's a waste on Timerra, mostly on account that Eirika Emblem is only player phase, while Timerra has enough defense and speed to Enemy Phase effectively so you really are wasting Timerra if you don't play to her defense stat. Eirika Emblem loses a lot of steam once your units begin to kill stuff in Maddening with their raw stats on their own, so they'd rather gain better effects than just "more damage"
I mean, you can put your head on the ground and pretend they don't exist. The fact of the matter is that not only they exist, but the maps to get the DLC characters in Maddening are way, W A Y harder than the main game chapters if you delay them to a point where enemies are promoted.
Honestly, I can't see someone replaying Engage more than once and not getting the DLC maps. They're safisyingly challenging to play through and greatly open up how you play the game.
Wow, you managed to be wrong in two accounts. Mozu's best class isn't even Dread Fighter, it's by all means Archer. Getting her up to speed is as simple as recruiting her asap and deploying her in chapter 8.
Eirika is absolutely great on any physical character that can double without problems. Eirika is great on Merrin for example, she has no problems doubling and the pure damage that lunar brace gives makes her so that she can actually deal damage late game. Also, wolf rider gets a damage boost when using the engage attack which is actually pretty good
Martial Masters are also stupidly good with Eirika since they can attack 4 times and each attack gets boosted from lunar brace
Oh yeah, Eirika is great on Merrin and Fogado who are fast speedlets, but those can also make just as good use out of Ike, Roy, etc.
In my first playthrough I ran Merrin with Eirika, Sigurd and Ike and I can attest she can kill just as well with all of them, except she gains more out of Ike and Roy than just "damage"
>Mozu's best class isn't even Dread Fighter, it's by all means Archer
Good luck grinding her on the Archer class on a Lunatic ironman AKA the only way to actually beat conquest
Dread Figher makes her good straight away and even has increased growth rates compared to spending 20 levels on a bad class
>grinding
I just told you how.
Her recruitment chapter and chapter 8. Ditch Effie for chapter 8, she won't do much since you need to move around and a ranged unit is very welcome in that map, By chapter 9 Mozu is on par with everyone and good to go for the rest of the game, no grinding needed. Just manage your units better.
>Marth, Roy, Sigurd, Eirika and Ike are all better emblems for her.
Hector also turns her Buildlet problems into a strength.
Chrom gives her Strenght, Speed, and a lot of Dex, Thoron and Mag+10 gives her a solid option against Generals, She actually gets use out of Brute Force and Charm, and Rally Spectrum gives opens up her support roles.
Edelgard is likely her best emblem, but Edelgard is also the best emblem for a lot of people
Uh-oh anon, you just activated his secret
>using DLC
trap card
>unit requires 20 dollars to become good
What do we call this new fire emblem archetype bros? The only other unit that comes to mind is Mozu with dread fighter DLC
>Etie, Bouch and Timerra
>Shit
>Some characters should be worthless and never used
Are you out of your fucking mind
>Everyone should be good and usable :*~~ There shouldn't be any strategic choices to who you deploy or any niche characters that help you certain chapters like Jagens or early game armor knights.
Actually unironically have a nice day gays
Again, FUCK off. That is objectively bad game design that died off in the early 2000s for a reason. Nobody wants to have a character they like be objectively trash
They don't get that part of the power discrepancy between the units is ludonarrative harmony. Don't bother.
>ludonarrative harmony
Then why is the head prince from the country of strength such a shitter?
Because Engage is shit at that
>ludonarrative
Away with you, youtube video maker
those strategic choices still exist? meta characters like kagetsu wont stop being meta just because everyone else is viable, and using less powerful but still viable character will require extra attention, all it does is give you more options
That is what made early FEs so unique as the dogshit characters were designed to be a soft punishment for letting your better units die. Nu FE just dropped this entirely
fuck off kaga, new joining characters shouldn't be allowed to outright invalidate old characters you spent time with
>NOOOO!! YOU CAN'T USE WHOEVER YOU WANT, THERE HAS TO BE AN OBJECTIVELY BEST META TEAM AND EVERYONE NEEDS TO USE THEM!!!!
get the fucking rope, you need to have a nice day NOW.
It's GOOD game design because it forces you to make actual hard choices in your *STRATEGY* game.
In the event that you're a HUGE gay that's attached to a character, you can always spend 20 turns to baby any unit into making them usable.
To be used as a tool to clear the map or that section of the game. If you're an actual gameplayfag and not just pretending as its the only thing you can desperately claw onto to defend this game, you'd agree.
For an incredibly basic example: It's the same reason they put Mankey in the grass before Brock in Yellow or Bellsprout/Oddish before Misty.
>Just arena grind bro
Nah.
>hard choices
>Use X and lose or use Y and win
Not following your logic here chief
who allowed you to escape the Vestaria 3 mines, mr Kaga?
yeah, I don't really like it when every character can be super good. Viable isn't really a good metric because you can beat every game using all the shittiest units so every unit in the series is technically viable. Makes them feel samey if they're all good. Every character should have some niche though, that makes them worth deploying in certain situations or points in the story. Either through join time, or utility outside of just directly combat, stuff like that. I miss Kaga
You are wrong, and if you play engage like this, you're a retard. That shit won't fly on maddening.
Literally conquest endgame, except without the AoE part and instead of a jojo ghost cutscene, Takumi is the only stand user there
Imagine getting filtered by multicolored hair holy shit I cannot with you fucking gays, I just cannot. Fucking get off Ganker you dumb normalfags.
have a nice day vtuber cuck your chud shit will never be normalized
>your chud shit will never be normalized
That's because 3H did it first.
*Awakening
VTuber is already normalised, it's only the mods letting you spam like the underage retard you are cause they are probably as immature as you
What is wrong with vtuber designs? Why does it make you seethe so hard retard? If you're a normalfag that just hates anime aesthetics, you need to leave this site right now.
It's just really ugly anime aesthetics
Here's an example of something that's based.
NOOOOOOO THE ANIME CHARACTER LOOKS LIKE AN ANIME CHARACTER
People blow the designs a bit out of proportion. Yes the main character looks fucking terrible and other characters like Hortensia and Timerra look like clowns but there's also a lot of characters that look just fine. Chloe fits in pretty well with most of the rest of the Pegasus Knight designs in the series unless you're anti-cleavage.
The manga did the designs better, some don't like good as 3D models.
Chloe being pure sex doesn't make most of the designs good.
But Chloe, anon
Chloé, Lapis, Citrinne, Diamant, and Nel are undeniably good. Veyle would be far better if her hair wasn't multicoloured but I still like her
Vander and Boucheron aren't. Happy now?
The contrast makes it even worse?
A lot of the designs would be great if Pikazo knew how to draw armor instead of bizarre abstract cardboard
Game came out of nowhere to zero fanfare and was completely dehyped out of the gate by the character designs.l and the cameo characters. It felt like they were announcing a spinoff rather than a mainline
I'm surprised it did as well as it did, honestly. It felt like 3 Hopes did better simply because it built off of 3 Houses, but I'm not a salesfag so I have nothing to back that up.
Three Hopes sold 1 million worldwide apparently (as of august 2022, i haven't looked up more recent numbers) which is pretty good for a musou but I don't think it did more than engage.
Well that's good to hear just because Engage, despite its flaws, is still a mainline Fire Emblem game and like you said 3 Hopes is a musou spinoff. It just felt like 3 Hopes had more conversation and hype around it, tho maybe not
I just played one 3hopes route on hardest difficulty and called it a day but iirc a consensus was quicly reached on the game's plot due to how retarded the lords acted, especially Claude. That coupled with the fact that it's a musou and not a mainline game is why it's not talked about as much as 3 houses and engage (even if engage threads are mostly shitflinging)
I love him
The face that makes a million Edeltards seethe.
The face that made the FEtuber scene get real jobs.
>made all the shitty FEtubers lose money and views
>made Mangs focus more on Advance Wars content which is more fun to watch
>made 3Hfags finally admit their gameplay is shit after 4 years and instead move the goalpost to saying story matters more
He fucking won.
What a GOAT
this bald fat fuck literally can't stop winning its surreal
>Caring about normalfags' opinions
lol
Engage it at the very least in the top 3 FE games.
Nobody wants to play a game with Alear on the cover
>hair hair hair hair hair hairhair hairhairhairhairhairhairhairhair hair hair hair hair hair hair hairhair hairhair hair hair BUT THE HAIRRRRRR
shut the FUCK up normalfags, don't you dare think about making this same post again, nobody cares about your shit post about how Alear looks. FUCK OFF.
muh hair
Normalfags love vtuber shit
Hair isnt the problem with Alear. If we ignore how much of a lose Alear acts like in general and just focus on their looks. The soft look/round lines it makes everything in the game look super gay/effeminate. It's not fitting for a franchise like fire emblem.
Azura has such a good design
How come? I heard we get to know more about Almyra at least. Is it really that bad?
They realized him being "le epic schemer" was basically non-existent in Houses so they turned him into a treacherous psycho who fights the Kingdom and Rhea for no reason
I read somewhere Rhea is shat on on all routes. Is there no saving her?
I just like proccing Sandstorm with Lodestar Rush
>gay/effeminate
Your mental illness is irrelevant.
moron you're literally defending a game whos primary audience is trannies and leftoids.
>trannies and leftoids
Again, your mental illness is irrelevant. If you unironically believe IS made Engage thinking about mentally ill retards from Burgerland, you need to go see a psychiatrist.
BTW, those people generally dislike Engage and prefer 3H.
Rosado is literally a chud colored trans gir
Rosado is a boy, and identifies as male. Stop trying so hard.
No they made Engage with the zoomer audience in mind. Localization added the pandering. Coincidentally the majority of trannies tend to be zoomers.
>If you unironically believe IS made Engage thinking about mentally ill retards from Burgerland
moron do you even know the state of the world? Nippon is one of the most emasculated nations on the planet. They are making these effeminated looking characters for their effeminated audiences, all while boars ravish the countryside of Japan.
It's a singleplayer game isn't it? I bet people just cleared the campaign and moved on.
>WHERE IS THE LORE? WHERE ARE THE ROUTES? HOW THE HELL AM I SUPPOSED TO MAKE ENDS MEET? I DON'T WANT TO GET A JOB, FUCK YOU SOMMIE
Why doesn't anyone like my game...
according to this thread, it's your hair. I'm sorry 'lear, you're gonna have to get it dyed....
Because it was shit?
Fire Emblem has always been a mix of the gameplay with story and the autism of building cool looking characters. Engage only has one of those things.
>Hey dude, wanna help a man on hard times? Please subscribe to my youtube channel and twitch streams, I do FE6 Hard Mode ironman runs and I'm doing a six-part video series on Edelgard's postgame-hairstyles.
But dead people have no hair
3chudfag shilling his channel
I'm glad I don't have shit taste cancer. Pikazo is great.
If you think that’s great than bad news friend, you’re a normalfag chud
It would be fine if it were just one fucking color. That's it. Red or Blue, pick a fucking lane.
Hell, I'd even take a 90/10 split. But this 50/50 shit, to include their eyes looks awful.
You can't make an argument against it. It's just your preference.
It's worse though.
My preference, and the preference of many others.
If your main character design has to "grow" on or be ignored by most of the fanbase who bothered to play your game, then it's a bad design.
Don't listen to the other replies. You're based. Multicolored anime hair breaks their normalfag minds so hard. They can't handle anything colorful. They want bland non-anime aesthetics.
>They want bland non-anime aesthetics.
Yes, I'm sure anything that isn't retard otakuslop is either bland and/or has no color.
Why is engage modding so disappointing? Is it the fact that all the map editing/rom hacking info is locked behind a chud discord, or pic rel? Please discuss
Nobody cares about it enough to make mods
Trannies and modding are simply two sides of the same coin
Just accept the fact that based mod autists are no longer a thing. The mod might be good and save Engage modding, the mod might fucking suck and completely kill the scene, just wait until it comes out and see for yourself
I care immensely. Playing reverse recruitment right now and it's fun as fuck. Veyle works much better as a protagonist than Alear
>change a few colors
>see massive improvements
Fire Emblem characters
Genshin Impact character
I miss green-haired manaketes
Red Alear looks good
Blue Alear is not as good but still decent
Normal Alear looks like dogshit
Good taste
Redpill me on 3Copes. How retarded are the lords? What about the other minor characters?
>How retarded are the lords?
It's really just Claude who had the retard dial turned up to 11
Blue lion route was an average scenario, it fleshed out faerghus and dimitri's family and ended up with him killing the bad guy then that's it.
I don't remember Edelgard's route
Claude instead of searching for the truth and being a scheming weasel in general just goes "church bad!" and fights rhea, when the slither morons are right there
>why did a game with such shitty character designs that 90% of the fanbase thought the leaks were obviously fake do poorly?
I don't know. It's truly a mystery.
You're so original, nobody has posted this in this thread yet. Congratulations.
>REEEEEEEE YOU DIDN'T READ ALL 400 POSTS REEEEEEEEEEEEE
Must suck to have autism.
>coming 400 posts late and dropping the most trite, predictable response
Clearly it is you who is autistic.
kek Bro, you need to get off the internet.
wow, what a wonderfully crafted response, you've proven yourself an interesting individual with many unique and thoughtful things to say. have a (You), my friend.
You're so fucking trigger at literally nothing. This is funny as fuck.
>topic asks question
>gets answer
>fly into a rage
wtf?
Wow it's almost like people with functioning eyes think Engage looks like shit
There was a bunch of imports for three houses who literally only care about fire emblem to suck off a genocidal maniac, and once she is no longer there, they don't care anymore.
Engagefags have one defense
They're worse than Edeltards
>They're worse than Edeltards
Don't kid yourself 3HRT
They have another defense that's just as retarded
>um actually the writing is supposed to be bad because it's a parody/satire
Our defense is that Engage is actually fun to play.
You only like Engage because it's not popular.
I accept your concession, but I do not accept you lot as women.
Likewise, chud lover
Transflag colored hair lmao
>gimmickshit + MOBA super moves
Nope
False
>Colors are thematically relevant
KINO KINO KINO KINO KINO KINO KINO KINO KINO KINO KINO KINO KINO KINO KINO KINO KINO KINO KINO KINO KINO KINO KINO KINO KINO KINO KINO KINO KINO KINO KINO KINO
Also SEXXXXXXXXXO
The only memorable lines of dialogue in the entire game were the Emblems confronting their antagonists in the final chapter.
I realised I didn't like Engage the moment I realised if the Emblems weren't their I wouldn't give a shit about it.
D-did you not cry when Lumera cried and died, anon? Don't you remember her lines? The promise to Alear? The emotions?
When you said Lumera I thought at first you meant the brown witch lady who dies with the shirtless guy. I totally forgot the blue haired woman existed.
Why are there no good "defend" missions now?
Missions in TH where you are supposed to defend, but the enemy wyvern general fuck is just fucking standing on the edge of the map and you have to walk there with all your units anyway
So fucking annoying
There hasn't been a good defend for X turns map since Thracia 776
If I had to say because they're boring if you do a lot of them. It also depends on the goal and how the map actually executes it, because some maps in Engage on Maddening are basically Defend Maps, except way harder because you actually have to kill the boss, still.
Playing engage is like playing over watch. There’s a bunch of sexy CGI bitches around but the game sucks and relies heavily on when you use your epic instant kill button
My opinion has always been that Engage feels like a filler entry rather than a serious new project
It would have been received better if it actually came out on the anniversary
People would have viewed it as a fun nostalgia trip spin off instead of the next mainline game
>It would have been received better if it actually came out on the anniversary
this, they should have announced it as a spin-off instead failing this
being compared to 3H killed it
ITT: Ganker will suck FEtuber dick just to shit on a good game
It has more replay value than 3H though. Because its gameplay is actually engageing and has more meaningful and varied options to it.
3H has almost no replay value outside of playing through the different story routes. And even then the common route that you have to replay every time is more of a chore than anything.
Also isn't Faerghast is kind of a moron generally?
>Also isn't Faerghast is kind of a moron generally?
Isn't he one of the biggest Edel simps and apologists on youtube?
The replayability is awful.
There are so few characters that are appealing enough to use, and you probably just ran them in your first run. Not to mention the exquisite, critically acclaimed "gameplay" only really comes online after 12+ chapters.
Wrong. I'm on my 2nd maddening run now and it's even funner than my first. I'm glad I did it since I was able to play around with all kinds of builds I didn't try the first time around, plus my first playthrough was dlc-free.
Nice now goldmary can be ike instead of panette >:3
>funner
don't bully 🙁
I dont like the design of either MC (I usually play male because Im not a degenerate and prefer my relationships to be between male and female)
I dont like the forced cocksucking of all the old fire emblem main characters (usually not my favs)
I dont like the design of the other characters either since a majority of them look like vtuber trash (I dont like vtubers)
You are now allowed to insult me because I mentioned subjective reasons on why I didnt bother with the game, and this somehow affected you personally to the point of anger.
Have a good day
ok
you didnt bother with the game because you dont like fire emblem
funny how the first fe game with 2 dark skinned urban individuals is the most disliked.
>urban
They're from the fucking desert.
i was just trying to say moron in the most elaborate way i could think of before 404
>never played fe6
she gets a shitload of levels just on her join chapter and im pretty sure oneshots every flier on port dia at base dude
as a matter of fact i havent but a quick check on the wiki shows no gentlemen of african descent