The fact that people are STILL debating which faction is best just shows how amazing the writing is for this game.
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Even to this day
The fact that people are STILL debating which faction is best just shows how amazing the writing is for this game.
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The fact that an unfinished one is a viable argument shows how bad it is
exactly
what the frick are you even trying to say try some grammar Black person
Legion is unfinished.
There is a whole third/half of the map missing.
We we're supposed to get legion towns.
you moron b***h people are still debating Stormcloaks vs Imperials and thats 100% a literal red vs blue bullshit faction choice
Tbf, you can tell it's different because NV arguments mostly fomr in-game things, Skyrim's, like most ES discussions, all need to bring out the God-Head or CHIM or whatever moronic thing Kirkbride wrote on a napkin
Honestly, I view the Skyrim civil war as a lore issue.
When you get into circles that know the lore the 50/50 split often becomes more like 85/15
F:NV is still a genuine debate, presuming you're on a fair site
>When you get into circles that know the lore the 50/50 split often becomes more like 85/15
More like "doesn't really matter"
Maybe the Thalmor trying to unmake reality is canon, but if you know the lore than you know how much the Nordic religion and culture was butchered and the idea of a bunch of imperialized nords fighting over how important Talos is sounds ridiculous, like that pagan larper meme about eurpeans in the year 3030 warring over how Muhammad was a blonde, blue eyed man from France
Of course, but there's even a difference between people who know let's call it "Kirkbride levels" of lore, and just basic b***h lore.
Tons of players don't even know the state of the Provinces. Lorelets.
Except it's literally the other way around, there's no debate in Troon Vegas because of how cartoonishly evil the Legion is, in Skyrim both sides are much more nuanced.
Legion is only cartoonishly evil if you're Oxhorn or on Reddit.
Most often I'll see "I ain't saying they're right.. but I understand"
>I stole a little girl's teddy bear and you'll have to fight dogs if you want it back
>I'm the Legion's only medic and I don't even know how to make Healing Powder properly
>The Legion uses children as suicide bombers because they know we won't blow a child's head off
>My wife was stolen from our house because the Legion felt travelling halfway into enemy territory for a single pregnant lady was justified
>I spent years infilitrating the NCR army and gaining rank and now my master plan is to... blow up a monorail
Eh, I'm sure any militarized society would do that, Sparta for example
I don't really see that as evil
Good point
At the time the Legion is a 7 minute walk away at Nelson. Shows more NCR incompetence as opposed to evil.
Speaks to Legion competence. A Frumentarri worked his way to Captain... and nobody noticed. Monorail is actually important, too. Direct access to Vegas, half the prize of the Legion
nta, i'm actually more or less agreeing with you
>>I stole a little girl's teddy bear and you'll have to fight dogs if you want it back
Anthony might be the prime example of cartoonishly evil. He's even snarlish and shouty like Cobra Commander
>>I'm the Legion's only medic and I don't even know how to make Healing Powder properly
That's not really evil and she does make it properly, she's just unnecessarily using more of an ingredient
>>The Legion uses children as suicide bombers because they know we won't blow a child's head off
Again, very evil. Also quite a bit nonsensical. The Legion is supposed to have population quotas. Why would they waste children?
>>My wife was stolen from our house because the Legion felt travelling halfway into enemy territory for a single pregnant lady was justified
Novac is independent from the NCR, and it isn't that far from the River
>>I spent years infilitrating the NCR army and gaining rank and now my master plan is to... blow up a monorail
Hey, that monorail is important
The Monorail's importance is only in evacuating NCR Troopers from the Strip when the Omertas murder everybody there, taking them to a base that's planned to be attacked by Fiends anyway. It's a big, showy sabotage that might inconvenience a couple dozen half-drunken soldiers before someone shoots them.
All Novac endings have it attacked by the Legion when it's of no importance to anyone and they leave other neutral towns in peace. If they can get around the only guard in town they could also just murder everyone in their sleep if they want the place so badly.
The healing powder is more cartoonish than evil, since this is an army of tribals, people explicitly subjugated because they know how to live off the land and having some civillian who was half-way through a first-aid course be the one to make their only medicine instead of any of the tribespeople who know what they're doing is beyond moronic.
>cartoonishly evil
woman or redditor
As someone who modded the game to be able to partake in slavery I can see how someone would have that opinion though
The Legion's good points are all told and not shown, and the game has some overly cartoonish sexist characters and nonsensical moments in the fort (why are the women doing manual labor) when the Legion is supposed to be chauvinistic, not misogynistic
Aren't there men carrying around those dumb backpacks? I know there's women only cooking, but I think there might be a male working at the grindstone.
I think it shows that they don't actually care about the game and just want to rehash the same fantasy politics argument over and over as a proxy for their real world views
NCR
Imperials
The government is right. Simple as.
independent new vegas is a no brainer. NCR for the bootlickers/ good karma gays, and Legion for stupid chaos runs. Its honestly not a complicated game or plot at all and on the contrary is extremely dumbed down and simple.
NCR is for stupid chaos runs.
>independent new vegas is a no brainer.
No. Just let House do his shit and enjoy a carefree life
i like house. but i killed him for logistical reasons, not personal. Having the brotherhood of steel alive gives you free microfusion cells at their base if you ever stop by. I basally throw them all at arcade gannon and give him a tribeam laser.
I meant from a story point of view. Why the frick would I care about ruling Vegas or it being independent? As long as the NCR/Legion doesn't come in and frick everything up I could not give a shit about the place. Rather let House deal with the headache and I get to enjoy an easy life for helping him.
Yes-Man is a half assed meme ending they rushed in because you could lock yourself out of the other three
People who pick independent Vegas are the same people who when playing make belief in the playground would come up with bs op weapons/attacks that were always the bestest.
>Legion for stupid chaos runs
Their ending is the one which brings the most order to Vegas, it's the opposite of a chaos run.
t. mad that he didn't have enough creativity to out-bullshit his friend's bullshit imaginary weapon
Courier Six is the only faction that matters.
House or bust. The Legion is moronic and the NCR is pure reddit.
House is a mummified nerd obsessed with muh space travel. It doesn't get more reddit than that.
>obsessed
mentions it once
And says that it is his ultimate dream and goal.
Same goal as the Enclave.
I dunno. Seems to me like the smart idea is to get the frick off the planet.
I don't really get it. I never really paid much attention to the politics of this, it also literally didnt matter which faction I picked because the game ends, so anything after that point is your own imagination. I picked yes man because I wanted to do my own thing. I didn't pick legion because I didn't like their weaponry. House was a annoying telling me what to do. NCR were fine but there was too many quests with them.
OP here. I'm trans btw, not that it matters
House - > Legion - > Reforming the Enclave - > Independence - > Eating Brahmin shit - > > > NCR
Still talking about the WRITING of a VIDEOGAME and not mentioning the abysmal goddamn GAMEPLAY is a sure sign that you don't give a shit about actual gaming.
The fact that they stopped making Fallout games is the real reason.
We'd have moved on if there were any new Fallout games; there aren't. Most NV threads involve dissecting the game's flaws...
We may forever debate which faction is the best but we can all agree the NCR is by far the worst
I think it's a natural aversion to dev favoritism
The game drools on the NCR so much, you have to be a gay not to see it and resent it
Don't know what game you played but having a bunch of quests for NCR because they focused on the Mojave over Arizona isn't "drooling" on them
I played fallout New Vegas, I dunno what game you played.
NCR's faults all matter for jack shit in the epilogue and they have much more content and "happy" endings than any other factions
>I read the wiki I know best!
No thanks, moron
>you can only know the endings through the wiki
Based mouthbreather
I fricking hate the NCR, but the developers are actually quite fair with them.
If you do side quests you can't deny how incompetent they are, or House states there is something like an 85% chance of Legion victory without intervention
>I fricking hate the NCR, but the developers are actually quite fair with them.
They aren't though
They get 3 times the content the Legion or House does
They have some of the best endinds despite their much vaunted problems
The game even treats them conquering NV much more positively in the ending narration than any other game
All factions have problems, you can fix NCR's one while not the rest
What about the NCR's impending drought?
And the brahmin barons.
>What about the NCR's impending drought?
I think Sayer said somewhere in Formsprings that the drought isn't an inevitability, and some of the characters like Hanlon saying it is, it's more due to their overall pessimistic view of the NCR.
I coudn't find it though. But it's not a denial, just saying it doesn't necessarily means doom
>the brahmin barons
I mean, the problem with them is that they're a small elite controlling what's supposed to be a democratic republic through lobbying. It's not that worse than the dictatorial rule of one man like House and Caesar, if autocracy isn't something you like
House is best if you want to progress past the wasteland or leave it
Legion is ideal if you wat to stabilize the wasteland, but don't think you can go further
The rest are if you don't want to change anything
>House is best if you are a gullible moron
fixed.
Okay NVgays, post your mc, weapon and companion. Modded or not, doesnt matter
Tribal casinos are rigged against the hwhite man
People are still talking about skyrim's civil war too, does that game have good writing? The only reason people still talk about FNV is because modern games are so fricking shit we'd all rather talk about a 10 year old glorified DLC of a game than pretend to care about the latest AAA trash.
nothing but truth in this post
modern gaming doesn't even have a plot, because that makes it difficult for simpletons to understand
The reason people talk about NV is because it's a reflection of real life politics. Liberals (neolibs and neocons) will side with the NCR, Libertarians will side mostly with House, Legion is for pragmatic end justifies the means who value strong governments, Independent is for anarchists/apoliticals who want a copout answer
morons still debate their favorite persona 4 waifu.
I asked my dad which faction is the best and he told me to get a job
you morons are debating factions in vain. the next fallout will be ncr vs east coast brotherhood
Bethesda will never include West Coast factions, only reference them.
Bethesda is scares of the west coast because they're lazy/know they'll frick it up and don't want to piss off the fans
nah, the fo4 normies outnumber the older fans.
but i think obsidian's doing the next fallout.
because bethesda'll be too busy with starfield dlc/elder scrolls 6
That'd be nice, but I doubt it.
Bethesda is butthurt about NV, whenever it's brought up in interviews Howard and Hines get really awkward about it.
yes, but microsoft's in charge so todd can't really do much about it. and i doubt they'll be waiting 10 more years for another fallout game
every faction is complete dogshit, even independent.
and NCR is the best one, but they're all dogshit
>amazing
THE FRICKING GAME TELLS YOU NCR IS THE BEST
this show how garbage is the writing
Ah yes another thread on troonyVegas
>FNV
>good writing
Pick one.