it isn't full loot or even any loot beyond coin dipshit
also red99 is horrible but only because the p99 staff is running it and it launched over 11 years ago
They have 3 servers. Red, for autistic PvP. Blue, the PvE server. Green, the new progressive server that they launched back in 2019; it has gone through every major patch and expansion and now people are speculating that a brand new Green server will be launching soon, with the current population merging into Blue.
Yes and it's a ton of fun despite (because of) it not being balanced for it. Original Tallon/Vallon Zek (race war pvp servers) were some of the most fun I ever had in MMOs
EQ pvp is complete dogshit. 90% of the time nobody even fought, the person who was being attacked just autoran away while bagging all their gear so they wouldn’t be looted. The other 10% of the time was getting 1 shot by wizards because of the weird LoS and lag exploits that existed at the time. After awhile all the “hardcore pvpers” figured out how broken consumable spam and to a lesser extent clickie spam was and then it was even more cancer and just turned into how much money you wanted to waste on a fight before one person eventually started auto running away while bagging their gear anyway so they wouldn’t get looted. I played cancer bard on Rallos Zek and the only reason I enjoyed it was just because bard is obviously moronic and unbalanced for pvp. No shot I would ever do it again.
1 year ago
Anonymous
You're no fun, anon.
1 year ago
Anonymous
It seems to me that PvP in EQ could work with a race-based conflict either built in somehow or just accepted on the server, and the entire game reduced to grinding so that camping a zone doesn't prevent anyone from progressing. You would need gentlemen's rules about friendly fire and spawn killing, but it should be easy to enforce that.
Everquest has pvp?
How does PvP actually play out on the red server?
1 year ago
Anonymous
>autoran away while bagging all their gear so they wouldn’t be looted
Ah you never played pvp full time then. Because the trick was to use blind on the target in order that their screen would go black to ensure they couldnt bag or react.
Trick was to hunt twinks using pathing exploits.
My friend and I got so much plat stealing items with our cleric+mage combo. He blinds, my earth elemental roots, while we nuke the target down.
Fun times. Rallos Zek was the best pvp server for that reason.
That said, the issue with loot pvp in EQ was that items and loot in general were such rare drops that it really hurt to lose anything.
In my honest opinion, modern survival games with pvp have shown how to have loot based pvp, without being entirely devastating to the people killed.
You see, games like Rust, Conan, Ark all use a systen of "recipies" or "blueprints", which are permanently part of your char once you get them.
This means, raiding for rare drops is limited to getting the blueprint to make the items.
As in, you get the blueprint for some rare item, then you make as many as you like. If youre killed, you build another.
Simultaneously, you have a very specific mechanic for repair where you cannot directly repair the item, without having the blueprint yourself; otherwise you need something like a "legendary repair kit".
This entire balance entirely fixes the core issues that loot based pvp has.
Its no longer about stealing good items, its about stealing resoources, or perhaps warring for a good location, or just raiding to raid.
You will never stop the carebear whiners who cry at dying in shit like Red Dead Online (zero loot and can make yourself immune to pvp so you can safely leave an area even), but they still b***h and cry because their egos were hurt.
1 year ago
Anonymous
I participated in significantly more pvp than you did, I guarantee it. I just played a bard which doesn't have access to blind. Trying to use this asinine logic to deny my experience is beyond moronic.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Are you sure? You probably would have known about greater flashstones if you did... Anyways you're both moronic because everyone geared to the breasts to resist shit like that anyways.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>luclin item
Nobody cares, stop trying to act smart
>Original Tallon/Vallon Zek (race war pvp servers) were some of the most fun I ever had in MMOs
Yeah, same here. I remember my pve server had a guild of pvp flagged players and I made a character to frick with them since my teenage self thought it was lame to be pvp flagged on a server where the only other flagged people were in your guild.
I managed to kill a few of them before they started grouping up and trying to track me down. I got one of my other characters invited to their guild so I could eavesdrop on their conversations about me, which I thought at the time to be the absolute height of deviousness.
If I can ever convince a friend or two to play I'd probably roll up a Magician. Been in a big spellcaster mood lately with the various RPGs I'm playing.
I fell for the P99 trap, but it's a waste of time. Why spend all those hours leveling to a dead end? The game never progresses beyond Velious. Everyone knows every inch of the world and every nuanced mechanic. Wanna see the raids? lol good luck thanks to autist staff refusing to instance them. Frick that noise. If you want to experience the older content just play the TLP.
What exactly happens without instanced raids? Do you just get hundreds of people crowding into the place, or is there a limit and you just can't get in?
I am considering joining a progressions server but it's unclear to me how I'd go about choosing which to play. Can you recommend a guide or channel that goes more in-depth into the state and features of the different servers?
>If you want to experience the older content just play the TLP.
just play imperium. it's a meme server designed for solo play until you reach gates of discord/omens of war. lets you see all the content by yourself up to that point
EQ is its own beast when compared to those games. Honestly it's more like WoW, except instead of questing to level you grind mobs (there are quests, but after the low levels they're just for getting items not XP), you have to group unless you're one of the few solo friendly classes, you lose XP and drop all your items on death and the game gives you absolutely no direction; you're dropped into the world and left to your own devices. It's awesome.
Are there always enough new characters in play for a new player to have someone to level with, or do people spend much time on alts? I played casually in the mid 2000s and it was a little on the sparsely populated side. Is it better to join with a group?
Frick, I just realized I'm not going to have Gloomingdeep.
On p99, yes. The mid-levels are where it gets tricky but if you use the Discord it gets much easier. On live you only find people at high levels unless you're on a progression server in the early-ish days.
So If you want to low-level party, either join a TLP or p99, or go into live with friends.
p99 is great but the raid scene is dogshit cancer
they wont implement instances because its not "classic" but they have no problem making changes that were never in the game for the sake of "balance"
Yeah, it's really insane that they won't add instanced raids. How does having a couple guilds dominate the raid scene increase enjoyment of the game? Would a single person quit because they add instanced raids? Who the frick cares? It only makes sense on Red where guilds can literally fight over raid bosses.
>How does having a couple guilds dominate the raid scene increase enjoyment of the game?
It doesn't. When these expansions came out, they were never going to be the permanent endgame and had a limited lifespan of 10-12 months. That's the ultimate flaw of P99, is that its prolonged endlessly when before you had a conveyor belt of new raid endgame content that allowed the less hardcore raiding guilds to kill the prior stuff. On top of the fact that in that interval, you basically had around 44-52 weeks per named mobs and not everybody in each hardcore raiding guilds was able to fully deck themselves out in BiS before the next big expansion came out.
>chilling in unrest healing new guild i had just got into >start receiving tells from gm to drop group >gm tells me to go outside to courtyard as I am being investigated for multiboxing >wants me and other person to start running circles to prove im not boxing >sure ok >my circles weren't good enough apparently >tell them im using keyboard only no mouse >no response from gm >banned
great game 10/10
really consider what it means for a person to dedicate their life to a 23 year old video game. for free. then you'll have a picture of the typical p99 staffer.
How the frick do they even suspect someone for multiboxing and then use that sort of shit test to "prove" it? It's literally just a dood on a power trip because he has GM powers.
the idea is that the boxxer will not be able to control both pcs well enough to the gms approval which I agree is unbelievably arbitrary and more than likely some gm going on a power trip
ive been in zones when theyve had other people do that test and they will randomly say 'player x' reverse direction and then 'player y' reverse direction
im guessing where anon was keyboard turning they didnt think they were moving quick enough
its pretty shitty though that they didn't at least take that into consideration whether they believed anon or not but its a stark reminder that they control the pixels at the end of the day
Just started playing again for first time since 2002.. misses original green release. Have a 32 enchanter now, but I am hesitant to lvl up now if they are just gonna start a new server in January. Anyone remember if enchanter have clarity at release or was that not added until kunark?
That sucks.. are enchanter still sought after in groups at launch before they get their mana regen line? I really like the class, but don't wanna start out gimped.. may roll a necro instead.
personally waitin for fresh green myself but i don't think it'd be a good idea to release fresh green any time soon as the concurrent player count is still high.
yeah but it's all top end. no one is leveling alts anymore. 3 years is a good cycle. fresh green with instanced raids coming in january. screenshot this.
They will never implement raid instances because the 10 people that use the forums will screech and reeeeee every day until they die. Also the mods are in the pocket of the big raid guilds. It’s pretty unfortunate because in between raid instancing and the complete removal of legacy items from the game (which is arguably worse imo) it would solve 99.9% of the dogshit community problems that p99 has.
bro don't you know it's CLASSIC to know exactly when certain items are going to be removed from the loot tables so you can do your best to hoard as many of them as possible to sell later?
the p99 team did their part of the job of making it as classic as possible
now it's up to the players to decide if they want that too or wiki the shit out of it
it's the closest thing to classic if you want it to be, I don't see anyone bringing up alternative ideas
1 year ago
Anonymous
because no matter how hard you try or how nostalgic you feel, you can never fully recapture the experience of playing the game for the first time. minor changes like instanced raids and removing legacy items from the start would make the experience better for the vast majority of players. this autistic clinging to no changes (except when it benefits certain raid guilds of course) is a detriment.
1 year ago
Anonymous
you would suggest, for example, not dropping the Circlet of Shadow from the release of Velious but only its nerfed version? And no Manastones at all from the start?
Getting that circlet on live before the nerf back in the days and then realizing its value afterwards was part of my experience, so that will be missing. Part of the OG experience was the meta where devs could pull shit like that. That's missing too right now on P99, of course, because we know all in advance, but you get the experience the imba stuff while it lasts..
How about meeting halfway: once the Circlet of Shadow nerf hits all existing Circlet of Shadow drops on the server are nerfed as well, on all chars in their inventories. Manastones are removed completely from game at the moment they stopped dropping. So you get the experience while it lasts, but there's less likely an impulse to hoard. Perhaps allow instancing for groups that want it, if you don't like instancing then do it the classic way in the un-instanced dungeon and compete for it.
>you can never fully recapture the experience of playing the game for the first time
only approach it, unfortunately, optimizing one variable decreases the 'classicality' of others.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>How about meeting halfway: once the Circlet of Shadow nerf hits all existing Circlet of Shadow drops on the server are nerfed as well, on all chars in their inventories. Manastones are removed completely from game at the moment they stopped dropping. So you get the experience while it lasts, but there's less likely an impulse to hoard. Perhaps allow instancing for groups that want it, if you don't like instancing then do it the classic way in the un-instanced dungeon and compete for it.
I think that's perfectly fine.
>dick around on p99 maybe once a year to scratch an old itch >only play till around level 30 before quitting again >get to indulge in cheap nostalgia without dealing with autistic neckbeard drama
Feels good.
so i made a DE Cleric and i go to the class guild to hand in the note and the trainer NPC tells me about a holy symbol or whatever i can get off him but idk how to get it
so i left the cave city and killed some snakes but should i go back and try something else to progress the "quest" if theres more to it
Can’t wait for spell notifications to come back in the next patch 2 years from now. Fricking moronic devs. Also if anybody ever wants to group drop me a line I have characters across all level ranges.
>Alternatively, any projects actually planning to use the Lantern client?
I'm sure those will show up once it's closer to being usable. Afaik it's still very early in dev.
Literally never coming out, the whole team is like 3 guys and it's been almost 6 years since the project started. They'd be better served working on the EQ emulator itself.
Is this a joke? 14 people is the same as 3 for developing an MMO. It was started in 2017 and they only recently started resembling a game, I hope this works for them but you won't be seeing a release for another 5 years.
Can't believe this game has existed for like 20 years and the live servers still haven't added any new character hairstyles or anything. It's like the simplest thing you could do to make the game go from unplayable to playable
Yes, the character creation screen is where many people decide if they will play the game or not. When you see it has almost no variety between two characters of the same race it looks really cheap
But they easily could. All I'm saying is that sometime in the last 20 years they could have added some appearance options for new characters and upgraded their game for practically free
Seal Team was running somewhere in Temple of Veeshan, with a train following them, intending to camp out (for the night? To drag off with FD classes for relog in? I don't know). This is when they were partnering with Force of Will.
Someone (kingdom?) ran after looking piggy back on their clear, thinking st was going to kill the trash.
Seal Team camped and trash murdered other guild that wasn't expecting it. A sarcastic one liner about seal team bring good guys right before log out became a meme, then guild name.
What in the world are you talking about? Dark Elves are one of the best cleric races, and absolutely unequalled if you do any amount of soloing. The only other contender is Dwarf because of their insane base stats.
t. level 52 DE cleric (solo only)
>Nektulos has skeletons, spiders, and bears that all drop stuff you can sell to other players for starting money >right next door to the Commonlands to make that easier >can go to Befallen early on and pretend you're a wizard
Darkies are the best race and Innoruuk is the coolest god, don't let any minmaxing ogres tell you otherwise.
Well thats probably the noob in me talking then. Was following a guide which used the same race/class and it mentioned that other races could do some useful quest i couldnt do. Other than that i havent read anything else yet, hence my ignorance
Not complaining too much about the grind but it still felt like a slightly steep climb, so i just assumed it wasnt a great class to solo with early on.
>Nektulos has skeletons, spiders, and bears that all drop stuff you can sell to other players for starting money >right next door to the Commonlands to make that easier >can go to Befallen early on and pretend you're a wizard
Darkies are the best race and Innoruuk is the coolest god, don't let any minmaxing ogres tell you otherwise.
>zone disruption is OK when its one of the top raiding guilds doing it
the p99 jannies are fricking awful I was legitimately excited for a new server but if its ran by these frickos im going to just not play
Zone disruption is one of the only things that the p99 staff actually enforces, what happened? I do agree that the server would be 1,000% better if they just banned every single sweaty poopsocker who thinks they can do whatever they want though
Riot was powerleveling one of their alts and pulled every mob on every floor in kurns
ive already petitioned but because i don't autisically record my gameplay it was dismissed
Yeah this is one of the most irritating differences between classic live eq and p99. On classic live there were GMs on 24/7 and usually if you petitioned one would show up within 10 mins to observe and step in. On p99 (esp on Blue) there are never any GMs online so it’s done through the forums. It’s so moronic.
you didn't play classic
servers had a single GM assigned to them
when they split servers they didn't hire any more GMs so there were <1 GM per server
you could get a guide to answer you, but they were teenagers that had no power other than like handing you a gate potion if you were stuck or ressing you >camping the guy in the water orb in cazic with a full group >been there for hours >this one level 50 necro wants the camp >he aggros every gator in the sewers and FDs on top of us while we are fighting >multiple times >obviously petition >guide shows up >tells him to frick off >he keeps doing it >guide literally tells us he can't do anything, has to get a GM >no GMs available, might take 2 hours for one >this necro was notorious for pulling this shit
hell that isn't even mentioning the months before the play nice policy was even implemented
I played classic plenty, and I never had an issue getting a GM to respond to petitions. Also people actually got banned during classic, which is another big issue with p99 because nothing they do has any teeth behind it. People have admitted to account sharing and multiboxing on the forums and nothing ever happens.
>you could get a guide to answer you
man that brought back memories of old school MMOs. they all had player guides for shit like that. i miss it bros
1 year ago
Anonymous
I genuinely seethe playing these resurrected corpses and knowing i was born 10 years too late to see it alive and growing, along with the rest of the internets golden age.
Never played before, was thinking about rolling Dark Elf Cleric, but would that screw me out of things? I've read that evil races have a bit of a harder time getting around. Is it really that much worse?
From what I'm trying of Laz, it seems alright content-wise, but every player I've met so far is surrounded by their five alts. I wanna actually play the game with people, not play with my five alts...
for anyone interested in pvp, a new classic -> kunark pvp server (not p99) is launching sometime in January:
https://discord.gg/sXgsDd2u
disclaimer: it has a lot of custom changes
nope, it's normal classic and kunark zones with short-ish wipe windows (this one's planned to be about 4 months)
custom content like camps your guild can take over that allow you to bind there, have guards, NPCs that buff you, and special ports
a pvp point system that lets you buy custom items
some class balancing, classes added (beastlord), classes removed (bard)
most of the remaining pvp community hangs around this type of server instead of p99
Sure, jump on Green and frick around, talk to people, ask questions, die a lot. That's the newbie EQ experience. And they may make a new progressive server next year
I've been playing Alternate EverQuest myself. It's pretty barren pop-wise, but it has a lot of nice changes, like expanding the race/class combination options, and making the starting quest armor actually worth doing the starting quest for.
I've been playing Alternate EverQuest myself. It's pretty barren pop-wise, but it has a lot of nice changes, like expanding the race/class combination options, and making the starting quest armor actually worth doing the starting quest for.
I've tried playing this a couple times, usually there's a big surge early on and then I miss one party and can never catch up in levels. What would you guys recommend? I'd like to travel as much as possible and just explore. Solo/duo would be perfect for scheduling but I assume I'd have to stay in each zone for a month leveling slowly.
Probably either Bard or Druid based on what you have written here. Druids can port and SoW and have the easiest time traversing the world, while bards can run at the speed of sound which also make traveling very easy. Both classes are amazing soloers, druid is a good duo class and bard is a great duo class. Both classes also have multiple options for soloing so you don’t get bored doing the exact same thing over and over. (Druid - Root/Rot, Charm, Quad) (Bard - Swarm, Charm, Fear Kite)
Druid sounds great, I looked into it and they seem fun to play. I'll be rolling later today, I'll see if I can find a duo partner to sync our schedules with. Am I right in saying any class would pair well with Druid? They seem pretty versatile.
Any class will go well but particularly good combos (later) will involve those that can charm and/or fear. A Necro is probably the best partner in the long run.
so botting in ec tunnel is ok since I fricking see it happen every day but having someone in your party go afk requires immediate gm intervention to test for multiboxing
are there any classic eq servers out there not ran by sweatlords?
These repeated instances of botting, you reported all of them, right? I've never seen a bot go unpunished that was reported, although it can take time to action.
i hope thats true, because i sold platlord one of the server first t-staffs on red, and my guild was so mad they griefed him off the server, resulting in him sending me threatening messages for months demanding stuff
I only played pvp servers when I played EQ back in the day, so obviously nobody wanted to be inspected for obvious reasons. Was that a thing on pve servers as well?
yeah on the pve servers people would walk away from you to close the window, call you rude, etc.
the roleplay was fun but there were always people who took it a bit too far.
Brand new to EQ and biggest concern so far is most things I kill changing my rep with 3+ different factions. Should I be keeping track of this stuff? I'd like to avoid becoming KoS to whole swathes of creatures as I explore the world.
Killing evil races/monsters raises rep with good races mostly and vice versa. You are already KoS to most of the ones you'll encounter and there are some creatures that don't have a faction and already hate you. One exception to this is Rogue Clockwork, they are neutralish toward you unless you stop killing them but I also don't think you'll find them outside Steamfont Mountains
I'm new as well, not sure what you're supposed to do but what I did was: >Right click any UI window like your hotkey bar >Texture on, whatever the topmost option is >Right click again, pick tint >Set tint to light grey
Texture lets me actually see all the lines rather than a black rectangle and light grey helps my buttons to stand out.
Then I made 2 chat windows, right click > filter. Set one for all my social stuff like /tell and say and the other by default has everything else like system messages. I did some other things but if you have a specific issue I can let you know what I did, since it's still fresh.
you should start with a spell or two in your inventory, you put those into the spellbook and then from the spellbook into your memorization slots on the left
People would actually rather do this autistic draft shit then just push for instancing. Legitimate insanity, p99 players truly are the dumbest people in existence.
You mean that gay shit where you get put in a zone queue like how they do Jboots and such?
Easily the worst system in gaming. >what's that? can't stay online for 24 consecutive hours? >back of the line, freak
for everything that isn't turbo-autism (hypercompetitive raid bullshit) instanced dungeons make things worse. Why would we want to kill the sense of community and helping other people out in favor of making the mistake all MMOs since have made?
Well yes obviously it would only apply to the cancer raid scene, strawman-kun. The only argument in favor of non instanced raid targets is the rush of competition and community interaction, but obviously the draft completely rips both of those out of the game. Unless of course you think standing in the Dreadlands typing /random 1000 is community interaction before you never interact with the other guilds for the duration of the draft. There truly are no arguments left against it.
I'm waiting for a green refresh before I come back. Gonna roll Ogre Shaman because my troll on Blue was a mistake without FSI and already have a level 50-60 of everything else except Wizard, Monk, and Bard (RSI). Hopefully be able to snag a guise and some other shit soloing on the shm but no Poison Wind Censor/JBB/Torpor/Fungi/etc sounds slow as frick. Probably try cleric for casual grouping and rez slave but terrified of CH chains. Never raided, will probably try and no life on an Iksar twink monk if pulling isn't as high stress as it looks, if not then buff b***h on the Shm. I never played Vanilla or Kunark only servers, I joined live a few weeks before Velious release and Blue in 2016 after Velious was out. Losing some of the QOL shit like the extra camera angles, pet window, etc sounds like a huge PITA for purities sake. Is there a list of chase items and limited time items I should be looking in to? I've been trying to get my general game plan in order despite never caring about what era shit released in.
Instancing exponentially increases the amount of geared players and thus they will quit faster. The scarcity gives me dopamine. What is the point of EC epeen or the mage epic if everyone gets a participation trophy instead of the wienerblock? Would also encourage even more skeleton crew kills and other meta gaming bullshit.
>thus they will quit faster
lol
the people playing on p1999 are just like the people on 4chinz, they are there for life. also the only reason everybody on the server isnt already geared is only because leaders and officers are gearing out their 7th alts before gearing mains of even semi-dedicated players. Imagine supporting and being proud of that, absolute cuck mentality.
How do you actually group in this? I feel weird asking but I've never played an MMO without a group finder or at least a lfg flag. I tried asking people my level, in my zone, to duo and they said it was faster to solo. Do I have to use Discord, how was it done back in the day? None of the guides ever say how, they just say go to x zone and find a party. I will say people in this game are quite nice.
>Discord
If you even have an account for that shit you should be embarrassed >how was it done back in the day?
You go to a camp and ask to join or say in ooc that you are lfg >at least a lfg flag
Literally /lfg
>turn /lfg on >broadcast in /ooc that you're looking for a duo or group >if you're really desperate, message people around your level and see if they want to start something
You don't have to be a social butterfly to get groups, but you do have to at least put yourself out there. Some classes are more desirable than others, and knowing what the popular camps are for your level also helps a bunch.
>and they said it was faster to solo
I hate twinks so much it's unreal.
It’s not really a twink thing, any of the casters (and bard) can solo much faster than grouping even if they are completely naked. The only exception is maybe cleric.
I already caught it, you're just a miserable frick I guess
1 year ago
Anonymous
Sure you did, anon. Sure you did.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>miserable moron who hangs out in threads for games he no longer enjoys doesn't believe me
oh no!
1 year ago
Anonymous
>if you don't enjoy playing an ancient long solved game that requires a massive time investment you must be miserable
interesting logic
1 year ago
Anonymous
I think he's calling you a miserable moron for hanging around in a thread for an ancient solved game that requires a massive time investment that you clearly don't enjoy.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>browse /vm/ >hey there's an EQ thread >I used to play that >read it >give my opinion
yes that is how message boards work
1 year ago
Anonymous
>be mad >have dogshit highly subjective opinion >somebody calls your opinion moronic >get madder
that's how message boards work
1 year ago
Anonymous
idk bro you seem a lot madder
1 year ago
Anonymous
>solved
no wonder you're so miserable, you pay attention to metas and let other people tell you the most efficient way to play a game. If you played it like you played games when you were a kid, maybe you'd be able to tap into the magic like I do 🙂
Yeah I realized this after a week or so. Knowing the game will never get new content makes it all feel so pointless
1 year ago
Anonymous
the live version does get new content though.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>this live shill is still going
give it a rest my man, its not healthy.
1 year ago
Anonymous
I've been ignoring this freak out but I played live from Kunark to GOD and then came back in SOD until House of Thule for that heroic or whatever character promo. It was all multiboxers, it felt empty as a game, like a puppet show. It was right before they introduced auto-grant AA's as a catch up and I had farmed thousands in the hole temple area as a mage. Right before I quit I was multiboxing just to EXP mobs that would yoyo your HP heavily unless you were an SK AOE pulling entire zones to level on cooldown. I wish there was a single box POP era server that was populated because it was the only other bracket where live was fun (AAs and more raid content before instancing cancer). There are years worth of play for anyone on blue as it is even without including raiding. I want to like Live but it just isn't interesting anymore.
Having windows flip focus to heal yourself and play a million classes at once isn't fricking fun, even if you want to farm Krono and other garbage. On P99 there are thousands of other actual people.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>playing live makes you a freak
typical P99 player, everyone
I have no personal experience, but this guide may be useful. >https://wiki.project1999.com/EverQuest_in_Linux_Guide
Otherwise I know many players use Linux, asking on Discord would get a response.
homies really do be grinding mobs in classic EQ in 2023
at least play UO Outlands for a classic MMO experience with new content and pvp
you homies is wildin
Never played EQ before but I'm interested in playing the oldest MMO out there in as close to its original state as possible. I'm probably going to be rolling a Druid since I always play a Druid in most other MMOs I've played. Is there a good guide for Druid play out there? I would probably be able to figure most stuff out for myself but wouldn't mind having a resource I can look at. Thanks.
>I'm interested in playing the oldest MMO out there in as close to its original state as possible
EQ isn't the oldest MMO out there, zoomie. Meridian 59 is older and on Steam. UO is also older and available in classic form on multiple pservers, most popularly UO Outlands, but that has custom content.
Anyone know where to get a digital copy of the Everquest Titanium? I tried to download from google doc versions but I am getting an error message saying I am forbidden from downloading them and there is one linked on MMORPG.com that is 404'd.
You think it's doable if I know jack shit about the game? I got to about lvl 10ish farming crushbone on my enchanter and that's the extent of my experience with the game.
my first char was a de nec, thats why i have a soft spot for them.
just find decaying skeletons for bone chips and get your lvl 1 pet spell asap and you will crush.
badass, might give it a shot then. Still hoping they roll out the new server soon, I'd like to give Wizard a go when I can get groups going consistently
yeah i read this thread last night hoping by the end there would be news of a server roll out but alas.
learn about fear kiting. slow dot + fear + other dots + pet = killing yellow mobs ez pz without even really taking damage.
1 year ago
Anonymous
I will definitely watch a vid on it before starting, thank you friend.
objectively, stat wise, yes. but not being able to do business anywhere outside of cabilis is fricking whack, and will hamper him big time since everyone on p99 is too busy with their clique to do merchant runs on your behalf.
I for sure don't wanna be locked down on merchants cause of weird faction/race affiliations, and also even if people weren't cliquey there's like no one around at low levels anyway
1 year ago
Anonymous
the other guy is right, iksar is a stronger necro, but playing any class on iksar is like playing advanced mode because you need to know all the tricks hes laying out as workarounds. for a first char dont make iksar, you are just going to make it tedious. when you get to 60 and know the ins and outs and locations a bit better and have friends and plat to throw around an iksar is much more manageable.
1 year ago
Anonymous
yeah I think not having to do workarounds will be better for me not knowing wtf I'm doing than having slightly better stats. I will probably roll dark elf
Iksar objectively makes the best necro and it’s not even close. That being said, necro is such a fantastic class that it is going to feel incredibly powerful regardless of what race you are.
objectively, stat wise, yes. but not being able to do business anywhere outside of cabilis is fricking whack, and will hamper him big time since everyone on p99 is too busy with their clique to do merchant runs on your behalf.
Necro has access to skeleton form and FD, not sure why you think that. The only thing that is it relevant for is the 3 mid level pet spells before you get skeleton form. But for those you can just make a level 1 troll or ogre and drop trade them to the iksar. Also, share wolf form is one of many services that Dial A Port offers that is not well known.
yea but hes a total noob and you dont get those until what, teens or 20s? hes not making a twink, its effectively a first character, and will obliterate his ability to raise money.
1 year ago
Anonymous
As a total noob I would expect him to do level 1-60 completely on Kunark, in which case iksar faction hits are completely irrelevant. By the time you hit level 20 you are going to have hundreds of plat in the bank. Giving a DaPer 50p to give you wolf form isn’t going to break the bank. You really are making it seem like a bigger issue than it really is. However like I said originally, necro is such a strong class that it is going to feel powerful regardless of what race you are, so just pick whatever you like looking at. My own necro is a DE because I hate looking at iksars.
1 year ago
Anonymous
you are trying to make it seem like less of an issue than it is, but youre stuck with giving long explanations of how to get around it being a PITA
1 year ago
Anonymous
It’s literally just 3 spells. That is the only faction consideration that goes into choosing iksar instead of another race. Sorry it’s too complicated for you.
1 year ago
Anonymous
sorry you expect everyone to want to play on tedious mode and rely on strangers to do basic shit because iksar has a few more int.
iksar is a pain in the ass to play, end of story. if it wasnt, you wouldnt be sitting here writing a strategy guide about all ways to make it less painful.
1 year ago
Anonymous
The most moronic thing about your posts is that you act like DE necro faction isn’t also complete ass. KoS everywhere besides Neriak, Oggok, and Grobb. This dude is gonna get ganked the first time he tries to bank in north freeport.
1 year ago
Anonymous
theres lots of shit to do on the east side of antonica though, kunark sucks ass until youre like 45.
1 year ago
Anonymous
I legitimately have no idea how somebody can unironically think that. Every single Kunark zone besides Swamp of No Hope and Skyfire (maybe you can include Emerald Jungle here as well) are some the best zones in the game to level in for their respective level ranges by a long shot.
1 year ago
Anonymous
kunark has some good zones which are good to level, but theyre on kunark. which is basically BFE. >inb4 more workarounds
kunark internet defense force is in this thread.
1 year ago
Anonymous
You are going to use all of the same faction tricks to make any other necro playable as you would on an iksar. It’s just part of playing necro, all of their factions are garbage. The only exception is gnome necro, which is what you should play if you actually are concerned with faction. Trying to pretend otherwise is intentionally dishonest.
1 year ago
Anonymous
i didnt try to pretend otherwise, i made the assertion that iksar can only do business in cabilis, which is true*.
rolling any other race will give him an easier opportunity to do basic town run shit and see more of the world. iksars are terrible choice for noobs unless, as you said, they plan on experiencing nothing but kunark. which would be lame. >*= unless he takes advantage of the strategy guide you wrote.
1 year ago
Anonymous
You literally can’t even walk around Freeport as a DE necro. You know, the main hub city located 1 zone away from neriak.
1 year ago
Anonymous
as you just pointed out, neriak is 1 zone away, not 3 zones a wait for a boat a long boat ride and then what 5 more zones.
1 year ago
Anonymous
This isn’t even relevant to anything. You are just replying to reply and pretend you are right about something. Moving across the game world as a DE Necro is absolutely no different than moving across the game world as an Iksar Necro. As an estimate, I would say approximately 95% of factioned NPCs are KoS to both races. Also, I don’t even know why you are talking about boats. Literally nobody uses them. Maybe you ride them once or twice for the novelty. You move to and from Kunark the exact same way you move to and from any other zone in the game, you port. Even the most noobiest of noobs knows that. DAP even ports low level characters for free. I really do think you are severely underestimating the ability of new players to learn and get comfortable with playing EQ, even without direction. The game isn’t nearly as complex as you seem to think it is. Noobs are noobs, they aren’t lobotomized zombies.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>its not a pain in the ass because of all these ways around it.
write a book about how easy it is bro. you have a great start.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>this strawman again
Alright you are too moronic to argue with, kys. Only the dumbest fricking person on the planet would think being a dark elf is a big step up from being an iksar in relation to ease of traversing the game world. The problem is being a necro, not what race you are.
1 year ago
Anonymous
keep writing your book bro.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Keep threading that noose, bro
1 year ago
Anonymous
lmao.
should I roll a necro to solo until new green comes out? I tried enc before but took forever to get groups going.
so i want to inform you of one more thing, this thread is pretty good indicator of what kind of people play EQ. this autist HAS to keep going and HAS to be right and HAS to get the last word in. hes taking this thread and discussion WAY too seriously. there are people like him with no life that have made a game their life, and they take it more serious than most people take their 9-5s. thyere ultimately the biggest downfall of MMOs like EQ and WoW. instead of just not giving a frick and letting people have fun playing a GAME, he had to try to correct what race you were, and then pulled out every trick he could to correct me and my assertion that iksars are a pain in the ass to play, and he just wont let it go. people like him suck the fun out of the game, and are why raids seem more like work than play.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>instead of letting someone have fun etc etc dogshit
That was literally the very first thing I said. The very first thing. You are legitimately braindead. I even said I play DE necro because I didnt want to play iksar because I don’t like looking at them. It’s actually staggering how moronic you are.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>The most moronic thing about your posts
>this strawman again
Alright you are too moronic to argue with, kys. Only the dumbest fricking person on the planet would think being a dark elf is a big step up from being an iksar in relation to ease of traversing the game world. The problem is being a necro, not what race you are.
>you are too moronic
Keep threading that noose, bro
>Keep threading that noose
>instead of letting someone have fun etc etc dogshit
That was literally the very first thing I said. The very first thing. You are legitimately braindead. I even said I play DE necro because I didnt want to play iksar because I don’t like looking at them. It’s actually staggering how moronic you are.
>You are legitimately braindead
This is a very good view of the typical p99 troony, folks. Just play live.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>get called out for blatantly lying about what I said >reply reply reply >troony buzzword
Impeccable
1 year ago
Anonymous
>Just play live.
Hate multiboxers and krono farmers. Simple as.
I think it depends on how much you like MMOs. If you like them enough to be interested in the history behind them, or like them but want a version that's more obtuse and punishing, EQ is very interesting. You can see in it the roots of all the modern themepark MMOs, but with all of the modern conveniences stripped away.
No maps, no mounts, high penalties for death, highly incentivized playing in a group over playing solo, much longer and more repetitive grind. But with all that comes a greater sense of exploration, adventure, danger, class identity, camaraderie, and community. Unlike a lot of modern games the world feels big and dangerous, people around you are more than just another player in a singleplayer sandbox. But it can also feel slow, grindy, and frustrating. I think it's definitely worth getting into, at least a little, if only to see the clay from which most modern MMOs are wrought.
It's amazing and has given me feelings no modern MMO has. Things like fear of fricking up by turning the wrong corner and falling in a trap filled with guaranteed death, losing days of exp from a couple bad corpse runs and then having to bribe clerics half way across the world to come rez you in the few hour window it is available. Dungeon crawling is fun as frick, exploring too deep into a dungeon and getting in over your head with your groups gear/corpse stuck at the bottom and hoping you were nice enough to the other rogue in the zone to come drag your corpses. Sometimes you find yourself going through a 1 way locked door and the only way out being to die; or get a friendly rogue to open it but there is none in the zone so you pop your evasive discipline and pray to fricking god your OT port hammer procs in the few swings you get before instant death. Sometimes you frick up simply by entering a zone, there are a few dungeons you can't turn 180 degrees and leave, sometimes the only way out is forward through a billion mobs. It's not all masochism though, no one gives a shit if a rare mob pops in WoW, here you will probably shit your pants here because you've been camping it for days.
You'll be forced to make friends even by PUGing, you can't do it all alone like in modern MMOs Every class brings something unique to the table. That being said the learning curve is kinda high and there is a lot of game sense you need to learn (everything from meta gimmicks to general spawns/items/etc). The early game is slow and boring until you unlock most of your class kit around ~29+. You won't be weaving a 20 skill ration like in nu-mmos.
I'd say wait to see if they announce a new "green" server which is what everyone is expecting. It is a fresh server with expansions unlocked a year+ later. You also get some great loot that stops dropping/gets nerfed if you don't get it before hand. Vanilla is kinda ZzZ but Kunark and Velious are great. Gives you time to learn though.
Necromancer dude here, been reading it's possible to solo as enchanter so I might give that a go first before rerolling.
Also figured I'd say if anyone wants to do some (extremely) casual duos/trios for shits when schedules line up feel free to drop a tag. Would love to roll up some sorta healer or tank. I'm usually awake in the evening/night time in USA to give an idea of my timezone.
I’m always down to play with anon, I have characters across all level ranges with my lowest character being level 4. Post name when you feel like jamming
nta but I always think it's funny when people act like posting in a thread is some herculean effort or something that takes longer than 30 seconds. i don't play EQ anymore either btw
Not trying to be a shitter genuinely asking:
Im kinda unironically moronic but I cant play tab target MMOs without a rotation bot or helper because so many buttons overwhelm me, is there something like that for EQ?
reminder that Rise of Zek is launching a seasonal PvP server this upcoming Saturday, the 28th:
https://discord.gg/qTykh3R4
tl;dr 5 months of classic -> kunark with some custom changes like removal of bards, addition of beastlords, pvp point system, etc.
EQ pvp is good for solving disputes over things like camps, raid mobs, etc. the game wasn't designed for it at all, but the game is much better with it. i can't stand playing PvE servers since trying a PvP server. the alternatives like killstealing, training with no way to stop it, having to take turns, inane rules (see p99) are far worse than the negatives that PvP brings.
bards are a must have in PvP due to the massive advantage provided by selo's in outdoor zones. the pvp community is mostly sick of them and this server is experimenting with not having them at all.
>EQ pvp is good for solving disputes over things like camps, raid mobs, etc.
This is already solved by being the player or raid that brings higher dps. In fact, thats half the reason wizards even exist because burst damage is a useless metric otherwise
If a fresh Green server launches I'd be down to tank as a fighter for a consistent leveling group.
Frankly I've only played a little bit, but that's due to preferring a consistent group and none in my friend group are autistic enough to play this
Why is everyone waiting for a new green? Is there something wrong with the existing one or the blue server? I play on Blue but I'm new to the whole thing
Blue is top heavy, economy is fairly saturated, we want gear that stops dropping like guise/manastone/etc, and groups are easier to come by at all levels on a fresh server. I played on blue in 2018-2022 and enjoyed it but I'm rolling some alts I've never played on green to try vanilla for the first time and eventually raid. My new cleric will eventually become a res slave on blue and my character slots are full there anyway.
>playing in, thinking about, posting in a thread about, or even merely clicking into a thread about Everquest, a twenty-four year old massively multiplayer video game
now THAT?
that's mental illness.
Green did kill blues pop though, I miss 1800+ primetime on 1 server. Wonder if it will boom again after character transfers or if we're on the downward hill and a lot of it are just people playing both servers at once.
Luclin was barren ugly dogshit, PoP was great even though classic Velious-tier EQ was dead by that point. Shame that TAKP is boxable garbage and has only a few hundred players. I'd definitely max out a few characters if it wasn't moronic.
luclin zones were kino because of pic related. they just made raid bosses have too much hp is all. beastlord was kinda shit too but it doesnt get better until oow anyways
They should make a custom server where they add features and zones from later expansions, tweaking them as needed to make the game as social and hardcore as P99.
agreed, and complete the quests that were only half-implemented in Velious, e.g. the Iksar necro skullcap quest, Crystal Cavern dwarf quests. All the stuff that was left out but was planned to be in Velious anyways.
I'm disappointed but not surprised that there isn't more of this really. Part of the appeal of an MMO is discovery, but for the most part Pservers all seem fine with just redoing versions of whatever "the good part" was. But I understand why of course, adding ANYTHING changes a lot. Implementing and tuning stuff to new standards is basically making a whole new game out of existing assets at that point. Not to mention private server populations might not be able to support increases in areas, or level caps, or whatever. A problem with lots of long running games is that you start stretching the population too thin or just end up with areas nobody uses.
truth, FFXI was my formative years MMO but I still remember how dogshit the controls were and how you literally can't do anything productive without a group after level 10
Horizon is a ladder pulling bonanza right now, and the devs and admins are openly flaunting their cheated items and abusing their knowledge advantage over the playerbase. Also, a sizable number of the Horizon devs were devs that were removed from Eden and/or Wings for blatant cheating and abuse. FF11 is one of the very few games where I would say sticking to retail is your best bet.
>Also, a sizable number of the Horizon devs were devs that were removed from Eden and/or Wings for blatant cheating and abuse
Shut the frick up, liar. I played on both of those servers. I know what actually happened.
You're a moron, there isn't always one "wrong" party and one "right" party. Both parties can be "wrong", do stupid shit, and be piles of shit. I know for a fact that specific GMs have used their GM powers to execute Dynamis bosses, force pop contested NMs, and plenty of other stuff that you have no clue about. I have seen it with my own eyes. Those same people are on the Horizon team at this very moment. That is why I avoid FF11 private servers like the plague now. You legitimately have no clue what you are talking about.
agreed, and complete the quests that were only half-implemented in Velious, e.g. the Iksar necro skullcap quest, Crystal Cavern dwarf quests. All the stuff that was left out but was planned to be in Velious anyways.
I'm disappointed but not surprised that there isn't more of this really. Part of the appeal of an MMO is discovery, but for the most part Pservers all seem fine with just redoing versions of whatever "the good part" was. But I understand why of course, adding ANYTHING changes a lot. Implementing and tuning stuff to new standards is basically making a whole new game out of existing assets at that point. Not to mention private server populations might not be able to support increases in areas, or level caps, or whatever. A problem with lots of long running games is that you start stretching the population too thin or just end up with areas nobody uses.
Jump on Shards of Dalaya. Dead as hell below max level but it could be less so with new players.
>multi-boxing
dropped, also somehow manages to have an even more convoluted and cancerous raid priority system than any other eq iteration I have ever seen. I am legitimately shocked that such a highly customized server does not feature instancing.
Also, >18 player hard cap on raid encounters
hopefully you are playing a hard meta class 🙂
Understandable. There's really no "hard meta", I think every class is 100% viable for raids except for shamans which are slightly lower priority. Of course with everyone having been on the server 10+ years longer than you, not catering to what the low pop needs might get you snubbed. No clue, only play solo & everyone's been nice so far.
just community and exploration that you don't get from sitting in town queueing for raid finder all day in modern MMOs. a classic ffxi priv server horizon just launched if u wanna play a classic mmo while you wait for a fresh p99 server.
I'm burn out. Gonna wait for new Green.
when is that?
idk
Lots of people are speculating January
That seems pretty likely yeah
Next month
what would happen to the server population?
I don't see green + blue merging soon, tbh
On green? It would boom.
Show the real server. Red is the only one worth playing on and its dead.
Currently at 77 players. Project 1999 is dead.
Sucks because red servers were where interesting shit happened, ie the Kerafyrm kill on Rallos Zek.
That would NEVER have happened anywhere else.
how is it the real server if it's the only dead one genius? obviously nobody likes psycho full loot pvp
it isn't full loot or even any loot beyond coin dipshit
also red99 is horrible but only because the p99 staff is running it and it launched over 11 years ago
red99 is horrible because 50% of the players that play on it are legitimate lunatics, its a quarantine server
>people playing a barely populated classic EQ pvp server aren't normal
you don't say
Never played on P99 before, what does "new Green" mean?
They have 3 servers. Red, for autistic PvP. Blue, the PvE server. Green, the new progressive server that they launched back in 2019; it has gone through every major patch and expansion and now people are speculating that a brand new Green server will be launching soon, with the current population merging into Blue.
Everquest has pvp?
Yes and it's a ton of fun despite (because of) it not being balanced for it. Original Tallon/Vallon Zek (race war pvp servers) were some of the most fun I ever had in MMOs
EQ pvp is complete dogshit. 90% of the time nobody even fought, the person who was being attacked just autoran away while bagging all their gear so they wouldn’t be looted. The other 10% of the time was getting 1 shot by wizards because of the weird LoS and lag exploits that existed at the time. After awhile all the “hardcore pvpers” figured out how broken consumable spam and to a lesser extent clickie spam was and then it was even more cancer and just turned into how much money you wanted to waste on a fight before one person eventually started auto running away while bagging their gear anyway so they wouldn’t get looted. I played cancer bard on Rallos Zek and the only reason I enjoyed it was just because bard is obviously moronic and unbalanced for pvp. No shot I would ever do it again.
You're no fun, anon.
It seems to me that PvP in EQ could work with a race-based conflict either built in somehow or just accepted on the server, and the entire game reduced to grinding so that camping a zone doesn't prevent anyone from progressing. You would need gentlemen's rules about friendly fire and spawn killing, but it should be easy to enforce that.
How does PvP actually play out on the red server?
>autoran away while bagging all their gear so they wouldn’t be looted
Ah you never played pvp full time then. Because the trick was to use blind on the target in order that their screen would go black to ensure they couldnt bag or react.
Trick was to hunt twinks using pathing exploits.
My friend and I got so much plat stealing items with our cleric+mage combo. He blinds, my earth elemental roots, while we nuke the target down.
Fun times. Rallos Zek was the best pvp server for that reason.
That said, the issue with loot pvp in EQ was that items and loot in general were such rare drops that it really hurt to lose anything.
In my honest opinion, modern survival games with pvp have shown how to have loot based pvp, without being entirely devastating to the people killed.
You see, games like Rust, Conan, Ark all use a systen of "recipies" or "blueprints", which are permanently part of your char once you get them.
This means, raiding for rare drops is limited to getting the blueprint to make the items.
As in, you get the blueprint for some rare item, then you make as many as you like. If youre killed, you build another.
Simultaneously, you have a very specific mechanic for repair where you cannot directly repair the item, without having the blueprint yourself; otherwise you need something like a "legendary repair kit".
This entire balance entirely fixes the core issues that loot based pvp has.
Its no longer about stealing good items, its about stealing resoources, or perhaps warring for a good location, or just raiding to raid.
You will never stop the carebear whiners who cry at dying in shit like Red Dead Online (zero loot and can make yourself immune to pvp so you can safely leave an area even), but they still b***h and cry because their egos were hurt.
I participated in significantly more pvp than you did, I guarantee it. I just played a bard which doesn't have access to blind. Trying to use this asinine logic to deny my experience is beyond moronic.
Are you sure? You probably would have known about greater flashstones if you did... Anyways you're both moronic because everyone geared to the breasts to resist shit like that anyways.
>luclin item
Nobody cares, stop trying to act smart
>Original Tallon/Vallon Zek (race war pvp servers) were some of the most fun I ever had in MMOs
Yeah, same here. I remember my pve server had a guild of pvp flagged players and I made a character to frick with them since my teenage self thought it was lame to be pvp flagged on a server where the only other flagged people were in your guild.
I managed to kill a few of them before they started grouping up and trying to track me down. I got one of my other characters invited to their guild so I could eavesdrop on their conversations about me, which I thought at the time to be the absolute height of deviousness.
>new
didnt daybreak tell them no more?
They have always been cool with P99, right?
P99 has an agreement with Daybreak that involves, among other things, not going past SoV, I think.
Not that the devs have the desire, anyways.
What all those other things all are is anyone's guess.
>not going past SoV, I think.
Plenty of other emulated servers that do go further. PoP isn't an exemption.
If I can ever convince a friend or two to play I'd probably roll up a Magician. Been in a big spellcaster mood lately with the various RPGs I'm playing.
I fell for the P99 trap, but it's a waste of time. Why spend all those hours leveling to a dead end? The game never progresses beyond Velious. Everyone knows every inch of the world and every nuanced mechanic. Wanna see the raids? lol good luck thanks to autist staff refusing to instance them. Frick that noise. If you want to experience the older content just play the TLP.
Kys
Wow that's really harsh, anon. It's a 23 year old game.
damn bro why so angry?
P99 autists take their 23 year old game very seriously
What exactly happens without instanced raids? Do you just get hundreds of people crowding into the place, or is there a limit and you just can't get in?
I am considering joining a progressions server but it's unclear to me how I'd go about choosing which to play. Can you recommend a guide or channel that goes more in-depth into the state and features of the different servers?
>If you want to experience the older content just play the TLP.
just play imperium. it's a meme server designed for solo play until you reach gates of discord/omens of war. lets you see all the content by yourself up to that point
Yelin- ACK!
The only old MMOs ive played are Star wars Galaxies and a little UO and RSC
I like playing old school versions first when possible but what would you compare it to?
EQ is its own beast when compared to those games. Honestly it's more like WoW, except instead of questing to level you grind mobs (there are quests, but after the low levels they're just for getting items not XP), you have to group unless you're one of the few solo friendly classes, you lose XP and drop all your items on death and the game gives you absolutely no direction; you're dropped into the world and left to your own devices. It's awesome.
Are there always enough new characters in play for a new player to have someone to level with, or do people spend much time on alts? I played casually in the mid 2000s and it was a little on the sparsely populated side. Is it better to join with a group?
Frick, I just realized I'm not going to have Gloomingdeep.
On p99, yes. The mid-levels are where it gets tricky but if you use the Discord it gets much easier. On live you only find people at high levels unless you're on a progression server in the early-ish days.
So If you want to low-level party, either join a TLP or p99, or go into live with friends.
Berney!
>/who all fallen
>no players found
>ever
I just want to play P99 with anons again…..
January, anon.
i would try this out but the PC room is acting as my second fridge-freezer right now
waiting on Lantern.
why is everyone so hyped for lantern?
there's just a lot more that could be done with a new client
p99 is great but the raid scene is dogshit cancer
they wont implement instances because its not "classic" but they have no problem making changes that were never in the game for the sake of "balance"
Yeah, it's really insane that they won't add instanced raids. How does having a couple guilds dominate the raid scene increase enjoyment of the game? Would a single person quit because they add instanced raids? Who the frick cares? It only makes sense on Red where guilds can literally fight over raid bosses.
>How does having a couple guilds dominate the raid scene increase enjoyment of the game?
It doesn't. When these expansions came out, they were never going to be the permanent endgame and had a limited lifespan of 10-12 months. That's the ultimate flaw of P99, is that its prolonged endlessly when before you had a conveyor belt of new raid endgame content that allowed the less hardcore raiding guilds to kill the prior stuff. On top of the fact that in that interval, you basically had around 44-52 weeks per named mobs and not everybody in each hardcore raiding guilds was able to fully deck themselves out in BiS before the next big expansion came out.
>chilling in unrest healing new guild i had just got into
>start receiving tells from gm to drop group
>gm tells me to go outside to courtyard as I am being investigated for multiboxing
>wants me and other person to start running circles to prove im not boxing
>sure ok
>my circles weren't good enough apparently
>tell them im using keyboard only no mouse
>no response from gm
>banned
great game 10/10
Thats disgusting. Im sorry, anon.
really consider what it means for a person to dedicate their life to a 23 year old video game. for free. then you'll have a picture of the typical p99 staffer.
How the frick do they even suspect someone for multiboxing and then use that sort of shit test to "prove" it? It's literally just a dood on a power trip because he has GM powers.
the idea is that the boxxer will not be able to control both pcs well enough to the gms approval which I agree is unbelievably arbitrary and more than likely some gm going on a power trip
ive been in zones when theyve had other people do that test and they will randomly say 'player x' reverse direction and then 'player y' reverse direction
im guessing where anon was keyboard turning they didnt think they were moving quick enough
its pretty shitty though that they didn't at least take that into consideration whether they believed anon or not but its a stark reminder that they control the pixels at the end of the day
Stark reminder that a community led server always be inferior to a professionally ran one.
Why don't you tell the actual truth:
>boxxing
>got caught
>went to Ganker to LARP as innocent victim
I've been box tested and I'm a keyboard turner who can barely move three fingers due to serious arthritis. They know.
If you want to box, just play regular EQ.
>who was sirken
>who was uthgaard
>who was derubael
Just started playing again for first time since 2002.. misses original green release. Have a 32 enchanter now, but I am hesitant to lvl up now if they are just gonna start a new server in January. Anyone remember if enchanter have clarity at release or was that not added until kunark?
Not on release, but before kunark. Breeze wasn’t added until Velious.
That sucks.. are enchanter still sought after in groups at launch before they get their mana regen line? I really like the class, but don't wanna start out gimped.. may roll a necro instead.
Enchanter is far from a mana bot, they are always great from level 1 to level 60
personally waitin for fresh green myself but i don't think it'd be a good idea to release fresh green any time soon as the concurrent player count is still high.
yeah but it's all top end. no one is leveling alts anymore. 3 years is a good cycle. fresh green with instanced raids coming in january. screenshot this.
As a lurker, would that be a good time to start playing this or should i familarise on a normal server beforehand.
Up to you. It's not that serious.
Wouldn't be a bad idea to familiarize yourself by playing a solo class for a bit on P99 rn
>fresh green with instanced raids coming in january. screenshot this
i..i could finally finish my mage epic...
They will never implement raid instances because the 10 people that use the forums will screech and reeeeee every day until they die. Also the mods are in the pocket of the big raid guilds. It’s pretty unfortunate because in between raid instancing and the complete removal of legacy items from the game (which is arguably worse imo) it would solve 99.9% of the dogshit community problems that p99 has.
bro don't you know it's CLASSIC to know exactly when certain items are going to be removed from the loot tables so you can do your best to hoard as many of them as possible to sell later?
the p99 team did their part of the job of making it as classic as possible
now it's up to the players to decide if they want that too or wiki the shit out of it
it's the closest thing to classic if you want it to be, I don't see anyone bringing up alternative ideas
because no matter how hard you try or how nostalgic you feel, you can never fully recapture the experience of playing the game for the first time. minor changes like instanced raids and removing legacy items from the start would make the experience better for the vast majority of players. this autistic clinging to no changes (except when it benefits certain raid guilds of course) is a detriment.
you would suggest, for example, not dropping the Circlet of Shadow from the release of Velious but only its nerfed version? And no Manastones at all from the start?
Getting that circlet on live before the nerf back in the days and then realizing its value afterwards was part of my experience, so that will be missing. Part of the OG experience was the meta where devs could pull shit like that. That's missing too right now on P99, of course, because we know all in advance, but you get the experience the imba stuff while it lasts..
How about meeting halfway: once the Circlet of Shadow nerf hits all existing Circlet of Shadow drops on the server are nerfed as well, on all chars in their inventories. Manastones are removed completely from game at the moment they stopped dropping. So you get the experience while it lasts, but there's less likely an impulse to hoard. Perhaps allow instancing for groups that want it, if you don't like instancing then do it the classic way in the un-instanced dungeon and compete for it.
>you can never fully recapture the experience of playing the game for the first time
only approach it, unfortunately, optimizing one variable decreases the 'classicality' of others.
>How about meeting halfway: once the Circlet of Shadow nerf hits all existing Circlet of Shadow drops on the server are nerfed as well, on all chars in their inventories. Manastones are removed completely from game at the moment they stopped dropping. So you get the experience while it lasts, but there's less likely an impulse to hoard. Perhaps allow instancing for groups that want it, if you don't like instancing then do it the classic way in the un-instanced dungeon and compete for it.
I think that's perfectly fine.
>dick around on p99 maybe once a year to scratch an old itch
>only play till around level 30 before quitting again
>get to indulge in cheap nostalgia without dealing with autistic neckbeard drama
Feels good.
b to the bizased
This is the way. There's no going back anyway, the magic of EQ was almost entirely a product of the community and culture of the time.
Managed to make a character and change some settings before nearly freezing to death last night
Will start actually playing a little today
so i made a DE Cleric and i go to the class guild to hand in the note and the trainer NPC tells me about a holy symbol or whatever i can get off him but idk how to get it
so i left the cave city and killed some snakes but should i go back and try something else to progress the "quest" if theres more to it
There should be text in [brackets] that you can say to get more info out of him
Ok thanks. Didn't seem that obvious to me. If i sounded hard to follow/moronic its because i was typing with gloves on lmfao
Can’t wait for spell notifications to come back in the next patch 2 years from now. Fricking moronic devs. Also if anybody ever wants to group drop me a line I have characters across all level ranges.
Do you have any WIS gear for a halfling druid? I need some to go quadding.
>needing WIS to quad
Pathetic, learn to catch med ticks
I'm DaPing most of the time, I don't have to learn shit
Then you should have plenty of money to buy +wis gear. Kys leech.
I didn't say anything about not paying
So is this another EQ client attempt or just someone fricking around in Unreal with the assets?
FUND IT! GOD DAMN YOU!
Green 2.0 when? Alternatively, any projects actually planning to use the Lantern client?
>Alternatively, any projects actually planning to use the Lantern client?
I'm sure those will show up once it's closer to being usable. Afaik it's still very early in dev.
No point in these new updated engines, keep your eyes on Monsters & Memories
Yeah for when it comes out in 10 years, sure
Literally never coming out, the whole team is like 3 guys and it's been almost 6 years since the project started. They'd be better served working on the EQ emulator itself.
>the whole team is like 3 guys
blatant lies https://monstersandmemories.com/team
Is this a joke? 14 people is the same as 3 for developing an MMO. It was started in 2017 and they only recently started resembling a game, I hope this works for them but you won't be seeing a release for another 5 years.
>is this a joke? 14 people is the same as 3 for developing an MMO.
who is ready for disappointment tomorrow with no announcement
Does Everquest have a named Froglok named Hopper?
Can't believe this game has existed for like 20 years and the live servers still haven't added any new character hairstyles or anything. It's like the simplest thing you could do to make the game go from unplayable to playable
Adding new hairstyles would make the game go from unplayable to playable? Idk bout that famalm.
Yes, the character creation screen is where many people decide if they will play the game or not. When you see it has almost no variety between two characters of the same race it looks really cheap
If something like that is relevant to someone in the slightest, they aren’t going to like EQ anyway.
But they easily could. All I'm saying is that sometime in the last 20 years they could have added some appearance options for new characters and upgraded their game for practically free
they should add a seasonal battlepass, js
When/why did seal team change their name to good guys?
Seal Team was running somewhere in Temple of Veeshan, with a train following them, intending to camp out (for the night? To drag off with FD classes for relog in? I don't know). This is when they were partnering with Force of Will.
Someone (kingdom?) ran after looking piggy back on their clear, thinking st was going to kill the trash.
Seal Team camped and trash murdered other guild that wasn't expecting it. A sarcastic one liner about seal team bring good guys right before log out became a meme, then guild name.
As a total noob, i didnt think DE Cleric would be such a slog to start off with
i hate the trope of having to choose the good races/religion if i want a better start. DE Cleric just sound so much cooler
What in the world are you talking about? Dark Elves are one of the best cleric races, and absolutely unequalled if you do any amount of soloing. The only other contender is Dwarf because of their insane base stats.
t. level 52 DE cleric (solo only)
Well thats probably the noob in me talking then. Was following a guide which used the same race/class and it mentioned that other races could do some useful quest i couldnt do. Other than that i havent read anything else yet, hence my ignorance
Not complaining too much about the grind but it still felt like a slightly steep climb, so i just assumed it wasnt a great class to solo with early on.
>Nektulos has skeletons, spiders, and bears that all drop stuff you can sell to other players for starting money
>right next door to the Commonlands to make that easier
>can go to Befallen early on and pretend you're a wizard
Darkies are the best race and Innoruuk is the coolest god, don't let any minmaxing ogres tell you otherwise.
>zone disruption is OK when its one of the top raiding guilds doing it
the p99 jannies are fricking awful I was legitimately excited for a new server but if its ran by these frickos im going to just not play
same. i can't stomach those homosexuals anymore
Zone disruption is one of the only things that the p99 staff actually enforces, what happened? I do agree that the server would be 1,000% better if they just banned every single sweaty poopsocker who thinks they can do whatever they want though
Riot was powerleveling one of their alts and pulled every mob on every floor in kurns
ive already petitioned but because i don't autisically record my gameplay it was dismissed
Yeah this is one of the most irritating differences between classic live eq and p99. On classic live there were GMs on 24/7 and usually if you petitioned one would show up within 10 mins to observe and step in. On p99 (esp on Blue) there are never any GMs online so it’s done through the forums. It’s so moronic.
you didn't play classic
servers had a single GM assigned to them
when they split servers they didn't hire any more GMs so there were <1 GM per server
you could get a guide to answer you, but they were teenagers that had no power other than like handing you a gate potion if you were stuck or ressing you
>camping the guy in the water orb in cazic with a full group
>been there for hours
>this one level 50 necro wants the camp
>he aggros every gator in the sewers and FDs on top of us while we are fighting
>multiple times
>obviously petition
>guide shows up
>tells him to frick off
>he keeps doing it
>guide literally tells us he can't do anything, has to get a GM
>no GMs available, might take 2 hours for one
>this necro was notorious for pulling this shit
hell that isn't even mentioning the months before the play nice policy was even implemented
I played classic plenty, and I never had an issue getting a GM to respond to petitions. Also people actually got banned during classic, which is another big issue with p99 because nothing they do has any teeth behind it. People have admitted to account sharing and multiboxing on the forums and nothing ever happens.
>you could get a guide to answer you
man that brought back memories of old school MMOs. they all had player guides for shit like that. i miss it bros
I genuinely seethe playing these resurrected corpses and knowing i was born 10 years too late to see it alive and growing, along with the rest of the internets golden age.
b***h ass
Never played before, was thinking about rolling Dark Elf Cleric, but would that screw me out of things? I've read that evil races have a bit of a harder time getting around. Is it really that much worse?
No
lol skim through the thread, you will see we have been talking about low level DE Cleric
>100% bonus loot drops
This game is gonna be an unplayable shitshow until they turn this off, what a fricking mistake.
what does that even mean
extra coin?
loot drop chance is rolled twice for all items, and it can drop 2 copies of items that are guaranteed as well
>no petbar on green
what is this bullshit
petbar? you mean the pet window? it is def active on green
nah, p99 isnt worth playing compared to project lazarus.
imagine dealing with no instances in 2022 for fricks sake.. top fricking kek
>6 boxing
cringe as hell
>being poor
cringe
laz is better
>no u
Damn, you got me. Kys.
From what I'm trying of Laz, it seems alright content-wise, but every player I've met so far is surrounded by their five alts. I wanna actually play the game with people, not play with my five alts...
What did you expect from a server that encourages 6 boxing?
for anyone interested in pvp, a new classic -> kunark pvp server (not p99) is launching sometime in January:
https://discord.gg/sXgsDd2u
disclaimer: it has a lot of custom changes
is that the one that shrinks the game world?
nope, it's normal classic and kunark zones with short-ish wipe windows (this one's planned to be about 4 months)
custom content like camps your guild can take over that allow you to bind there, have guards, NPCs that buff you, and special ports
a pvp point system that lets you buy custom items
some class balancing, classes added (beastlord), classes removed (bard)
most of the remaining pvp community hangs around this type of server instead of p99
Never played EverQuest before, but love me old-school MMO’s.
Would I enjoy hopping on green if I loved games like Ultimate Online, Anarchy Online, and Asherons Call?
Is it worth jumping in this late in the game?
Sure, jump on Green and frick around, talk to people, ask questions, die a lot. That's the newbie EQ experience. And they may make a new progressive server next year
> don't move forward
> keep going back to t the graveyard of past failures
many such cases, next month you'll resub to classic wow
I already subbed to WoW but for Kinoflight
can mage summon beer?
I've been playing Alternate EverQuest myself. It's pretty barren pop-wise, but it has a lot of nice changes, like expanding the race/class combination options, and making the starting quest armor actually worth doing the starting quest for.
https://www.playaeq.com/
Pic related is the class/race combos.
>every race can be paladin
>except barbarian
lol what
>mithaniel marr, the god of valor who is a paladin, created the barbarians
i never understood it either
>be me
>ogre warrior
>help gronk find out bout wifey
>fink i get normie kinda gud sord
>he giv me dis
confus.jpg
what fricked up server are you playing on?
imagine not releasing the new server on Christmas day
100% soulless
>kill spider
>it explodes into silk
>left my sewing kit in the bank
Sheeit.
damn this game looks like shit
frig off satan
It's older than the average Ganker user, please understand.
>non-iksar necro
>untwinked
>quest primary from Noclin
SOVL
>that stretch of a 32x32 texture for the ground
Christ the Karanas always had the worst environment visuals
Reminder that Qeynos is the comfiest starting city.
I've tried playing this a couple times, usually there's a big surge early on and then I miss one party and can never catch up in levels. What would you guys recommend? I'd like to travel as much as possible and just explore. Solo/duo would be perfect for scheduling but I assume I'd have to stay in each zone for a month leveling slowly.
Probably either Bard or Druid based on what you have written here. Druids can port and SoW and have the easiest time traversing the world, while bards can run at the speed of sound which also make traveling very easy. Both classes are amazing soloers, druid is a good duo class and bard is a great duo class. Both classes also have multiple options for soloing so you don’t get bored doing the exact same thing over and over. (Druid - Root/Rot, Charm, Quad) (Bard - Swarm, Charm, Fear Kite)
Bard soloing really starts to suck post-50. Very few swarm options, and fear kiting is slow as balls. Pre-50 though, you are a fricking king.
Druid sounds great, I looked into it and they seem fun to play. I'll be rolling later today, I'll see if I can find a duo partner to sync our schedules with. Am I right in saying any class would pair well with Druid? They seem pretty versatile.
ill play with you anon, but my lowest level character is a 12 necro which is actually a really good duo partner with druid
Any class will go well but particularly good combos (later) will involve those that can charm and/or fear. A Necro is probably the best partner in the long run.
so botting in ec tunnel is ok since I fricking see it happen every day but having someone in your party go afk requires immediate gm intervention to test for multiboxing
are there any classic eq servers out there not ran by sweatlords?
i don't think there even are any other classic EQ pservers
These repeated instances of botting, you reported all of them, right? I've never seen a bot go unpunished that was reported, although it can take time to action.
>t. Rogean aka Platlord
i hope thats true, because i sold platlord one of the server first t-staffs on red, and my guild was so mad they griefed him off the server, resulting in him sending me threatening messages for months demanding stuff
>Red
>Some psychotic shit happening
What a surprise, open pvp is exclusively for sociopaths.
who was platlord on red?
Crushbone is fun, always nice folks around giving buffs
Killing orcs with strangers is what classic Everquest is all about.
There's something in particular about killing Orcs for belts on P99 that is really comfy. It's the only thing I remember from my time playing.
>you are inspecting soandso
lel remember when people used to get upset if you inspected them without permission?
I only played pvp servers when I played EQ back in the day, so obviously nobody wanted to be inspected for obvious reasons. Was that a thing on pve servers as well?
yeah on the pve servers people would walk away from you to close the window, call you rude, etc.
the roleplay was fun but there were always people who took it a bit too far.
Brand new to EQ and biggest concern so far is most things I kill changing my rep with 3+ different factions. Should I be keeping track of this stuff? I'd like to avoid becoming KoS to whole swathes of creatures as I explore the world.
Killing evil races/monsters raises rep with good races mostly and vice versa. You are already KoS to most of the ones you'll encounter and there are some creatures that don't have a faction and already hate you. One exception to this is Rogue Clockwork, they are neutralish toward you unless you stop killing them but I also don't think you'll find them outside Steamfont Mountains
*start killing them
Hell yeah
Just rolled a Cleric but the UI is a bit overwhelming, Am I just a zoomer? what do I do
I'm new as well, not sure what you're supposed to do but what I did was:
>Right click any UI window like your hotkey bar
>Texture on, whatever the topmost option is
>Right click again, pick tint
>Set tint to light grey
Texture lets me actually see all the lines rather than a black rectangle and light grey helps my buttons to stand out.
Then I made 2 chat windows, right click > filter. Set one for all my social stuff like /tell and say and the other by default has everything else like system messages. I did some other things but if you have a specific issue I can let you know what I did, since it's still fresh.
Thanks I'll try that
from the wiki 1/2
2/2
you should start with a spell or two in your inventory, you put those into the spellbook and then from the spellbook into your memorization slots on the left
https://wiki.project1999.com/Midoo%27s_EQ_Guide_For_WoW_Refugees
People would actually rather do this autistic draft shit then just push for instancing. Legitimate insanity, p99 players truly are the dumbest people in existence.
You mean that gay shit where you get put in a zone queue like how they do Jboots and such?
Easily the worst system in gaming.
>what's that? can't stay online for 24 consecutive hours?
>back of the line, freak
for everything that isn't turbo-autism (hypercompetitive raid bullshit) instanced dungeons make things worse. Why would we want to kill the sense of community and helping other people out in favor of making the mistake all MMOs since have made?
Well yes obviously it would only apply to the cancer raid scene, strawman-kun. The only argument in favor of non instanced raid targets is the rush of competition and community interaction, but obviously the draft completely rips both of those out of the game. Unless of course you think standing in the Dreadlands typing /random 1000 is community interaction before you never interact with the other guilds for the duration of the draft. There truly are no arguments left against it.
>sense of community
>p99
looooooooooooooool
I'm waiting for a green refresh before I come back. Gonna roll Ogre Shaman because my troll on Blue was a mistake without FSI and already have a level 50-60 of everything else except Wizard, Monk, and Bard (RSI). Hopefully be able to snag a guise and some other shit soloing on the shm but no Poison Wind Censor/JBB/Torpor/Fungi/etc sounds slow as frick. Probably try cleric for casual grouping and rez slave but terrified of CH chains. Never raided, will probably try and no life on an Iksar twink monk if pulling isn't as high stress as it looks, if not then buff b***h on the Shm. I never played Vanilla or Kunark only servers, I joined live a few weeks before Velious release and Blue in 2016 after Velious was out. Losing some of the QOL shit like the extra camera angles, pet window, etc sounds like a huge PITA for purities sake. Is there a list of chase items and limited time items I should be looking in to? I've been trying to get my general game plan in order despite never caring about what era shit released in.
Instancing exponentially increases the amount of geared players and thus they will quit faster. The scarcity gives me dopamine. What is the point of EC epeen or the mage epic if everyone gets a participation trophy instead of the wienerblock? Would also encourage even more skeleton crew kills and other meta gaming bullshit.
>thus they will quit faster
lol
the people playing on p1999 are just like the people on 4chinz, they are there for life. also the only reason everybody on the server isnt already geared is only because leaders and officers are gearing out their 7th alts before gearing mains of even semi-dedicated players. Imagine supporting and being proud of that, absolute cuck mentality.
How do you actually group in this? I feel weird asking but I've never played an MMO without a group finder or at least a lfg flag. I tried asking people my level, in my zone, to duo and they said it was faster to solo. Do I have to use Discord, how was it done back in the day? None of the guides ever say how, they just say go to x zone and find a party. I will say people in this game are quite nice.
>Discord
If you even have an account for that shit you should be embarrassed
>how was it done back in the day?
You go to a camp and ask to join or say in ooc that you are lfg
>at least a lfg flag
Literally /lfg
>turn /lfg on
>broadcast in /ooc that you're looking for a duo or group
>if you're really desperate, message people around your level and see if they want to start something
You don't have to be a social butterfly to get groups, but you do have to at least put yourself out there. Some classes are more desirable than others, and knowing what the popular camps are for your level also helps a bunch.
>and they said it was faster to solo
I hate twinks so much it's unreal.
It’s not really a twink thing, any of the casters (and bard) can solo much faster than grouping even if they are completely naked. The only exception is maybe cleric.
The most efficient way to level is to farm plat and then pay for a PL, at that point I'm not sure what you'd get out of classic EQ.
There's nothing left to get out of it. The people still playing it are just chasing nostalgia they'll never catch
I already caught it, you're just a miserable frick I guess
Sure you did, anon. Sure you did.
>miserable moron who hangs out in threads for games he no longer enjoys doesn't believe me
oh no!
>if you don't enjoy playing an ancient long solved game that requires a massive time investment you must be miserable
interesting logic
I think he's calling you a miserable moron for hanging around in a thread for an ancient solved game that requires a massive time investment that you clearly don't enjoy.
>browse /vm/
>hey there's an EQ thread
>I used to play that
>read it
>give my opinion
yes that is how message boards work
>be mad
>have dogshit highly subjective opinion
>somebody calls your opinion moronic
>get madder
that's how message boards work
idk bro you seem a lot madder
>solved
no wonder you're so miserable, you pay attention to metas and let other people tell you the most efficient way to play a game. If you played it like you played games when you were a kid, maybe you'd be able to tap into the magic like I do 🙂
Yeah I realized this after a week or so. Knowing the game will never get new content makes it all feel so pointless
the live version does get new content though.
>this live shill is still going
give it a rest my man, its not healthy.
I've been ignoring this freak out but I played live from Kunark to GOD and then came back in SOD until House of Thule for that heroic or whatever character promo. It was all multiboxers, it felt empty as a game, like a puppet show. It was right before they introduced auto-grant AA's as a catch up and I had farmed thousands in the hole temple area as a mage. Right before I quit I was multiboxing just to EXP mobs that would yoyo your HP heavily unless you were an SK AOE pulling entire zones to level on cooldown. I wish there was a single box POP era server that was populated because it was the only other bracket where live was fun (AAs and more raid content before instancing cancer). There are years worth of play for anyone on blue as it is even without including raiding. I want to like Live but it just isn't interesting anymore.
Having windows flip focus to heal yourself and play a million classes at once isn't fricking fun, even if you want to farm Krono and other garbage. On P99 there are thousands of other actual people.
>playing live makes you a freak
typical P99 player, everyone
how do i get it working on linux? crashes when i launch it & it runs at low FPS before it started crashing.
I have no personal experience, but this guide may be useful.
>https://wiki.project1999.com/EverQuest_in_Linux_Guide
Otherwise I know many players use Linux, asking on Discord would get a response.
homies really do be grinding mobs in classic EQ in 2023
at least play UO Outlands for a classic MMO experience with new content and pvp
you homies is wildin
Never played EQ before but I'm interested in playing the oldest MMO out there in as close to its original state as possible. I'm probably going to be rolling a Druid since I always play a Druid in most other MMOs I've played. Is there a good guide for Druid play out there? I would probably be able to figure most stuff out for myself but wouldn't mind having a resource I can look at. Thanks.
>I'm interested in playing the oldest MMO out there in as close to its original state as possible
EQ isn't the oldest MMO out there, zoomie. Meridian 59 is older and on Steam. UO is also older and available in classic form on multiple pservers, most popularly UO Outlands, but that has custom content.
Don't forget Legends of Kesmai, which can also be played on a private server.
The p99 wiki has a bunch of druid-specific guides that'll tell you the basics and give you ideas on where to grind and items to look out for.
After you get your bearings, if you feel like duoing just drop your name here. I've never played a druid but they get access to a lot of cool stuff.
Anyone know where to get a digital copy of the Everquest Titanium? I tried to download from google doc versions but I am getting an error message saying I am forbidden from downloading them and there is one linked on MMORPG.com that is 404'd.
i just did a search for everquest titanium torrent and the first result yielded results.
not sure youd want to play p99 though based on this thread
Played a halfling warlock some time ago, it was gay as shit.
no such thing as a warlock in eq.
should I roll a necro to solo until new green comes out? I tried enc before but took forever to get groups going.
dark elf necro is the best solo IMO. someone might chine in about iksar havng better stats.
You think it's doable if I know jack shit about the game? I got to about lvl 10ish farming crushbone on my enchanter and that's the extent of my experience with the game.
my first char was a de nec, thats why i have a soft spot for them.
just find decaying skeletons for bone chips and get your lvl 1 pet spell asap and you will crush.
badass, might give it a shot then. Still hoping they roll out the new server soon, I'd like to give Wizard a go when I can get groups going consistently
yeah i read this thread last night hoping by the end there would be news of a server roll out but alas.
learn about fear kiting. slow dot + fear + other dots + pet = killing yellow mobs ez pz without even really taking damage.
I will definitely watch a vid on it before starting, thank you friend.
I for sure don't wanna be locked down on merchants cause of weird faction/race affiliations, and also even if people weren't cliquey there's like no one around at low levels anyway
the other guy is right, iksar is a stronger necro, but playing any class on iksar is like playing advanced mode because you need to know all the tricks hes laying out as workarounds. for a first char dont make iksar, you are just going to make it tedious. when you get to 60 and know the ins and outs and locations a bit better and have friends and plat to throw around an iksar is much more manageable.
yeah I think not having to do workarounds will be better for me not knowing wtf I'm doing than having slightly better stats. I will probably roll dark elf
Iksar objectively makes the best necro and it’s not even close. That being said, necro is such a fantastic class that it is going to feel incredibly powerful regardless of what race you are.
objectively, stat wise, yes. but not being able to do business anywhere outside of cabilis is fricking whack, and will hamper him big time since everyone on p99 is too busy with their clique to do merchant runs on your behalf.
Necro has access to skeleton form and FD, not sure why you think that. The only thing that is it relevant for is the 3 mid level pet spells before you get skeleton form. But for those you can just make a level 1 troll or ogre and drop trade them to the iksar. Also, share wolf form is one of many services that Dial A Port offers that is not well known.
yea but hes a total noob and you dont get those until what, teens or 20s? hes not making a twink, its effectively a first character, and will obliterate his ability to raise money.
As a total noob I would expect him to do level 1-60 completely on Kunark, in which case iksar faction hits are completely irrelevant. By the time you hit level 20 you are going to have hundreds of plat in the bank. Giving a DaPer 50p to give you wolf form isn’t going to break the bank. You really are making it seem like a bigger issue than it really is. However like I said originally, necro is such a strong class that it is going to feel powerful regardless of what race you are, so just pick whatever you like looking at. My own necro is a DE because I hate looking at iksars.
you are trying to make it seem like less of an issue than it is, but youre stuck with giving long explanations of how to get around it being a PITA
It’s literally just 3 spells. That is the only faction consideration that goes into choosing iksar instead of another race. Sorry it’s too complicated for you.
sorry you expect everyone to want to play on tedious mode and rely on strangers to do basic shit because iksar has a few more int.
iksar is a pain in the ass to play, end of story. if it wasnt, you wouldnt be sitting here writing a strategy guide about all ways to make it less painful.
The most moronic thing about your posts is that you act like DE necro faction isn’t also complete ass. KoS everywhere besides Neriak, Oggok, and Grobb. This dude is gonna get ganked the first time he tries to bank in north freeport.
theres lots of shit to do on the east side of antonica though, kunark sucks ass until youre like 45.
I legitimately have no idea how somebody can unironically think that. Every single Kunark zone besides Swamp of No Hope and Skyfire (maybe you can include Emerald Jungle here as well) are some the best zones in the game to level in for their respective level ranges by a long shot.
kunark has some good zones which are good to level, but theyre on kunark. which is basically BFE.
>inb4 more workarounds
kunark internet defense force is in this thread.
You are going to use all of the same faction tricks to make any other necro playable as you would on an iksar. It’s just part of playing necro, all of their factions are garbage. The only exception is gnome necro, which is what you should play if you actually are concerned with faction. Trying to pretend otherwise is intentionally dishonest.
i didnt try to pretend otherwise, i made the assertion that iksar can only do business in cabilis, which is true*.
rolling any other race will give him an easier opportunity to do basic town run shit and see more of the world. iksars are terrible choice for noobs unless, as you said, they plan on experiencing nothing but kunark. which would be lame.
>*= unless he takes advantage of the strategy guide you wrote.
You literally can’t even walk around Freeport as a DE necro. You know, the main hub city located 1 zone away from neriak.
as you just pointed out, neriak is 1 zone away, not 3 zones a wait for a boat a long boat ride and then what 5 more zones.
This isn’t even relevant to anything. You are just replying to reply and pretend you are right about something. Moving across the game world as a DE Necro is absolutely no different than moving across the game world as an Iksar Necro. As an estimate, I would say approximately 95% of factioned NPCs are KoS to both races. Also, I don’t even know why you are talking about boats. Literally nobody uses them. Maybe you ride them once or twice for the novelty. You move to and from Kunark the exact same way you move to and from any other zone in the game, you port. Even the most noobiest of noobs knows that. DAP even ports low level characters for free. I really do think you are severely underestimating the ability of new players to learn and get comfortable with playing EQ, even without direction. The game isn’t nearly as complex as you seem to think it is. Noobs are noobs, they aren’t lobotomized zombies.
>its not a pain in the ass because of all these ways around it.
write a book about how easy it is bro. you have a great start.
>this strawman again
Alright you are too moronic to argue with, kys. Only the dumbest fricking person on the planet would think being a dark elf is a big step up from being an iksar in relation to ease of traversing the game world. The problem is being a necro, not what race you are.
keep writing your book bro.
Keep threading that noose, bro
lmao.
so i want to inform you of one more thing, this thread is pretty good indicator of what kind of people play EQ. this autist HAS to keep going and HAS to be right and HAS to get the last word in. hes taking this thread and discussion WAY too seriously. there are people like him with no life that have made a game their life, and they take it more serious than most people take their 9-5s. thyere ultimately the biggest downfall of MMOs like EQ and WoW. instead of just not giving a frick and letting people have fun playing a GAME, he had to try to correct what race you were, and then pulled out every trick he could to correct me and my assertion that iksars are a pain in the ass to play, and he just wont let it go. people like him suck the fun out of the game, and are why raids seem more like work than play.
>instead of letting someone have fun etc etc dogshit
That was literally the very first thing I said. The very first thing. You are legitimately braindead. I even said I play DE necro because I didnt want to play iksar because I don’t like looking at them. It’s actually staggering how moronic you are.
>The most moronic thing about your posts
>you are too moronic
>Keep threading that noose
>You are legitimately braindead
This is a very good view of the typical p99 troony, folks. Just play live.
>get called out for blatantly lying about what I said
>reply reply reply
>troony buzzword
Impeccable
>Just play live.
Hate multiboxers and krono farmers. Simple as.
never played EQ. is this worth getting into as a beginner, or is this nostalgia bait?
I think it depends on how much you like MMOs. If you like them enough to be interested in the history behind them, or like them but want a version that's more obtuse and punishing, EQ is very interesting. You can see in it the roots of all the modern themepark MMOs, but with all of the modern conveniences stripped away.
No maps, no mounts, high penalties for death, highly incentivized playing in a group over playing solo, much longer and more repetitive grind. But with all that comes a greater sense of exploration, adventure, danger, class identity, camaraderie, and community. Unlike a lot of modern games the world feels big and dangerous, people around you are more than just another player in a singleplayer sandbox. But it can also feel slow, grindy, and frustrating. I think it's definitely worth getting into, at least a little, if only to see the clay from which most modern MMOs are wrought.
No, just watch one of those 1 hour retrospectives about it on youtube if you want to know about the game. Seriously.
It's amazing and has given me feelings no modern MMO has. Things like fear of fricking up by turning the wrong corner and falling in a trap filled with guaranteed death, losing days of exp from a couple bad corpse runs and then having to bribe clerics half way across the world to come rez you in the few hour window it is available. Dungeon crawling is fun as frick, exploring too deep into a dungeon and getting in over your head with your groups gear/corpse stuck at the bottom and hoping you were nice enough to the other rogue in the zone to come drag your corpses. Sometimes you find yourself going through a 1 way locked door and the only way out being to die; or get a friendly rogue to open it but there is none in the zone so you pop your evasive discipline and pray to fricking god your OT port hammer procs in the few swings you get before instant death. Sometimes you frick up simply by entering a zone, there are a few dungeons you can't turn 180 degrees and leave, sometimes the only way out is forward through a billion mobs. It's not all masochism though, no one gives a shit if a rare mob pops in WoW, here you will probably shit your pants here because you've been camping it for days.
You'll be forced to make friends even by PUGing, you can't do it all alone like in modern MMOs Every class brings something unique to the table. That being said the learning curve is kinda high and there is a lot of game sense you need to learn (everything from meta gimmicks to general spawns/items/etc). The early game is slow and boring until you unlock most of your class kit around ~29+. You won't be weaving a 20 skill ration like in nu-mmos.
I'd say wait to see if they announce a new "green" server which is what everyone is expecting. It is a fresh server with expansions unlocked a year+ later. You also get some great loot that stops dropping/gets nerfed if you don't get it before hand. Vanilla is kinda ZzZ but Kunark and Velious are great. Gives you time to learn though.
Nostalgia bait. See
and
Yes it's sick. try it out
Necromancer dude here, been reading it's possible to solo as enchanter so I might give that a go first before rerolling.
Also figured I'd say if anyone wants to do some (extremely) casual duos/trios for shits when schedules line up feel free to drop a tag. Would love to roll up some sorta healer or tank. I'm usually awake in the evening/night time in USA to give an idea of my timezone.
I’m always down to play with anon, I have characters across all level ranges with my lowest character being level 4. Post name when you feel like jamming
Frick it, Baxen#7038. Dunno if I'll be able to play tonight or not but we can get something going for sure
Sent, looking forward to playing with you anon
>guy who couldn't have fun with EQ hangs out in the /vm/ thread to try to warn people away
Weird and pathetic
Do you think there aren't people playing P99 who recognize they're in a nostalgia trap?
Why don't they just play something they actually like then?
nta but I always think it's funny when people act like posting in a thread is some herculean effort or something that takes longer than 30 seconds. i don't play EQ anymore either btw
is solo wizard viable without twinking?
Yes. The cloth casters are completely fine without twinking and can also solo to level cap.
interesting, might have to give it a shot then
don't mind downtime honestly
You'll spend a lot of time shitposting on the internet while your mana regens after every pull, but it's certainly doable.
new server when
Not trying to be a shitter genuinely asking:
Im kinda unironically moronic but I cant play tab target MMOs without a rotation bot or helper because so many buttons overwhelm me, is there something like that for EQ?
EQ has no rotations, and barely has any buttons. You will be fine.
reminder that Rise of Zek is launching a seasonal PvP server this upcoming Saturday, the 28th:
https://discord.gg/qTykh3R4
tl;dr 5 months of classic -> kunark with some custom changes like removal of bards, addition of beastlords, pvp point system, etc.
eq pvp sounds awful. why are they removing bards?
EQ pvp is good for solving disputes over things like camps, raid mobs, etc. the game wasn't designed for it at all, but the game is much better with it. i can't stand playing PvE servers since trying a PvP server. the alternatives like killstealing, training with no way to stop it, having to take turns, inane rules (see p99) are far worse than the negatives that PvP brings.
bards are a must have in PvP due to the massive advantage provided by selo's in outdoor zones. the pvp community is mostly sick of them and this server is experimenting with not having them at all.
>I know it’s dogshit but it’s slightly less dogshit than the alternative
Nice pitch, pvp-tard
>EQ pvp is good for solving disputes over things like camps, raid mobs, etc.
This is already solved by being the player or raid that brings higher dps. In fact, thats half the reason wizards even exist because burst damage is a useless metric otherwise
If a fresh Green server launches I'd be down to tank as a fighter for a consistent leveling group.
Frankly I've only played a little bit, but that's due to preferring a consistent group and none in my friend group are autistic enough to play this
Me too, actually. Kinda want to roll a Barb WAR but getting groups now is too much effort for my lazy DAPing ass
Why is everyone waiting for a new green? Is there something wrong with the existing one or the blue server? I play on Blue but I'm new to the whole thing
just mentally ill people who need everyone else to start over just because they want to
FRESH has always been a thing in MMOs anon
yes and its always been for the clinically insane
Blue is top heavy, economy is fairly saturated, we want gear that stops dropping like guise/manastone/etc, and groups are easier to come by at all levels on a fresh server. I played on blue in 2018-2022 and enjoyed it but I'm rolling some alts I've never played on green to try vanilla for the first time and eventually raid. My new cleric will eventually become a res slave on blue and my character slots are full there anyway.
>raiding in EQ
now this is real mental illness
>playing in, thinking about, posting in a thread about, or even merely clicking into a thread about Everquest, a twenty-four year old massively multiplayer video game
now THAT?
that's mental illness.
>mmos today are so bad that people resort to playing ancient ones
i agree its grim
How about they close down all the servers and only open a new Red
Green did kill blues pop though, I miss 1800+ primetime on 1 server. Wonder if it will boom again after character transfers or if we're on the downward hill and a lot of it are just people playing both servers at once.
they should do a luclin server and pop server
Luclin was barren ugly dogshit, PoP was great even though classic Velious-tier EQ was dead by that point. Shame that TAKP is boxable garbage and has only a few hundred players. I'd definitely max out a few characters if it wasn't moronic.
luclin zones were kino because of pic related. they just made raid bosses have too much hp is all. beastlord was kinda shit too but it doesnt get better until oow anyways
Hello from Marus Seru.
They should make a custom server where they add features and zones from later expansions, tweaking them as needed to make the game as social and hardcore as P99.
agreed, and complete the quests that were only half-implemented in Velious, e.g. the Iksar necro skullcap quest, Crystal Cavern dwarf quests. All the stuff that was left out but was planned to be in Velious anyways.
I'm disappointed but not surprised that there isn't more of this really. Part of the appeal of an MMO is discovery, but for the most part Pservers all seem fine with just redoing versions of whatever "the good part" was. But I understand why of course, adding ANYTHING changes a lot. Implementing and tuning stuff to new standards is basically making a whole new game out of existing assets at that point. Not to mention private server populations might not be able to support increases in areas, or level caps, or whatever. A problem with lots of long running games is that you start stretching the population too thin or just end up with areas nobody uses.
Horizon is doing that very thing with FFXI and they're very successful.
ffxi has great classes, cool zones and awesome music but everything else about the game is hot garbage
truth, FFXI was my formative years MMO but I still remember how dogshit the controls were and how you literally can't do anything productive without a group after level 10
Horizon is a ladder pulling bonanza right now, and the devs and admins are openly flaunting their cheated items and abusing their knowledge advantage over the playerbase. Also, a sizable number of the Horizon devs were devs that were removed from Eden and/or Wings for blatant cheating and abuse. FF11 is one of the very few games where I would say sticking to retail is your best bet.
>Also, a sizable number of the Horizon devs were devs that were removed from Eden and/or Wings for blatant cheating and abuse
Shut the frick up, liar. I played on both of those servers. I know what actually happened.
You're a moron, there isn't always one "wrong" party and one "right" party. Both parties can be "wrong", do stupid shit, and be piles of shit. I know for a fact that specific GMs have used their GM powers to execute Dynamis bosses, force pop contested NMs, and plenty of other stuff that you have no clue about. I have seen it with my own eyes. Those same people are on the Horizon team at this very moment. That is why I avoid FF11 private servers like the plague now. You legitimately have no clue what you are talking about.
>just trust me bro
>I know what actually happened
>>Just trust me bro
Truly amazing stupidity
Jump on Shards of Dalaya. Dead as hell below max level but it could be less so with new players.
>multi-boxing
dropped, also somehow manages to have an even more convoluted and cancerous raid priority system than any other eq iteration I have ever seen. I am legitimately shocked that such a highly customized server does not feature instancing.
Also,
>18 player hard cap on raid encounters
hopefully you are playing a hard meta class 🙂
Understandable. There's really no "hard meta", I think every class is 100% viable for raids except for shamans which are slightly lower priority. Of course with everyone having been on the server 10+ years longer than you, not catering to what the low pop needs might get you snubbed. No clue, only play solo & everyone's been nice so far.
new servers yet?
Feel like they would have announced them by now if they were planning on creating them anytime soon
I've never played EQ but I've spent a lot of time playing wow and diablo 2. is there anything redeeming about this that I should try it?
just community and exploration that you don't get from sitting in town queueing for raid finder all day in modern MMOs. a classic ffxi priv server horizon just launched if u wanna play a classic mmo while you wait for a fresh p99 server.
I don't think a fresh server is coming anytime soon homie
depends on what you like in games. It's legitimately one of the best mmos ever, but if don't like hardcore games you'll probably not enjoy it.
There is never gonna be a new server.