This is like the sound equivalent of playing 3D console games upscaled to higher resolution. NES music was written for the NES sound chip, not some hypothetical Platonic ideal sound chip that didn't exist at the time.
Wouldnt it be closer to those "SNES music without compressed samples" videos?
Forest of Illusions actually hurt my ears, they were clearly designed with the compression in mind
> it's not even the spec of the chip
i hate these money grubbing, hand rubbing parasite youtubers so much that it's unreal. they have no concept of how anything works. he got so assblasted when the video was released that he deleted hundreds of comments because he couldn't accept how triangle is no longer perfect and no longer sounds like nes. he really thought he was making it better.
I hate clickbait titles like that. It's clearly not "wrong" if it sounds all right.
people like this youtuber need to be shot in the face.
>Youtuber goes through the entire effort of learning, explaining and modding a retro console's sound chip for fun, gets recognition for it >homosexuals on /vr/ with no worthwhile skills b***h and complain as if it were more pertinent to the board (it isn't), and will be forgotten as soon as the thread is archived
Suffer.
No youtube is WRONG. Thats what the developers intended. Frick stupid hipster zoomer youtubers who think they know better than everyone just for clickbait views. I hate when youtube promotes sensational headline clickbait bullshit and everyone starts parroting it like its gospel. Because apparently the masses of dumbasses cant think for themselves or form their own opinions.
>hmm I think I'll make a thread on /vr/ about [literally any topic] >I know, I'll make my self sound like an antagonistic zoomer butthole, that will get me (You)s
no longer interested in whatever you wanted to post, frick off and try again
Please know my stance about emulating the quirks and flaws of original hardware.
In short, I LOVE HOW THE HARDWARE ORIGINALLY SOUNDS. That's it. If I never made this experiment, I would have been recording audio straight from various hardware and saving them for my collection. I firmly believe that every hardware is unique and its individual quirks should be perfectly preserved via proper emulation, or better, lossless hardware recordings. Even if the Namco N163 sounds like crap, it's what it is, and it should sound like that.
Now, for the people who say, "[the stuff I tried to do] doesn't make it better". You know what? "Better" depends on the goal of the individual. If you're trying to say that "smoothing out the triangle wave doesn't make it better" then in the perspective of recreating the sound of the original hardware, of course that's bad. But for the purposes of THIS VIDEO, whose goal is to make an experiment and hear how the NES could sound like if its flaws were not present, then it doesn't matter. The NES is trying to make a triangle wave. However, a triangle wave does not have steps. I merely helped the NES achieve what it was trying to achieve. And the result was interesting to hear so I shared my findings.
I never claimed that "the NES should sound like this" or anything similar. If anything, I learned to appreciated the NES more—by fixing its flaws, I understood just how many sacrifices it had to make to even generate the sounds it can generate.
Again, for the last time, I fully support the faithful recreation of hardware audio. I hope you understand.
Feel free to continue writing your comment even if it is "you killed the NES and it will come to haunt your dreams". However, if that is the case, as writing and explaining the same thing over and over again is tiring, and there are other comments on different topics that could spark a more interesting conversation, I may not be able to reply to your comment. Please understand.
>I LOVE HOW THE HARDWARE ORIGINALLY SOUNDS.
Yet he calls what he's done an improvement over the original and that it achieves what the the chip creators failed to achieve.
I appreciate the effort though and it's interesting hearing the sound waves the NES produces in comparison to more analog-like waves. But it definitely could have been done without the click-baity title.
it's not an improvement. it's not what the designers of the ricoh chip intended for it to sound like. the triangle wave generated is to spec of the chip. it's intentional. anyway, this vid and cringe thread is nothing more than zoomy schizophrenia, once again trying to rewrite history and failing miserably at it. can't wait for the next cringe piece of shit. maybe someone will replace the sine lookup table in YM chips with a saw and then say: yep, that sounds better. reddit told me so.
>whose goal is to make an experiment and hear how the NES could sound like if its flaws were not present, then it doesn't matter.
lmao. this is the cope post he pinned in his youtube comments after he deleted hundreds of comments that criticized the shit out of his gay video. the man is a complete fricking moron and has taken the wise path of going back to making oscilloscope videos of other people's music that nobody watches.
i can't for the life of me imagine a scenario where a sane person would get angry about a video like that. but he we are. you guys are weird. that's all i have to say about this
>I just farted. >Come on, come closer! >Let it sink in your nostrils for a minute. >Now take a deep breath... >Isn't my presence the sweetest aroma you've ever been graced upon ?! >That's not all, let us compare to the perfumes from Dior and Channel >Smell them. >Now, let me fart again. >... >See???
>I'm gonna make a video and claim THIS is the WAY to experience NES and everything else is WRONG, including using original hardware >wtf guys why are you pissed at me???????
The problem is the video title. The original sound was already perfect, because it sounded exactly like an NES was supposed to sound. Claiming this modded version is "perfect" is just plain wrong.
>Perfect NES Sound Chip
God, the state of YouTubers... Luckily, I used an alternative mean of watching that doesn't count any favorable metric toward the uploader. Better luck chasing clout next time.
ffs, people are really getting an emotional reaction on the use of perfect in the title.
It literally produces perfect sound waves. It doesn't mean he's claiming it's an objective improvement in all instances. It's an experiment.
/vr/ is full of RGB podcast redddit morons.
the OG SNES and NES ship weere garbage compared to the Yamaha chips SEGA and Sony used in their consoles, those even ended up on PC as soundfonts. Though all were shit compared to Roland, Amiga and Creative Labs Sound Blaster
I gave the benefit of doubt and watched the whole video. Just another case of "it's cleaner now I fixed it". OP must've been raised on Daft Punk or something and thinks that everything should sound the same.
Would be awesome if there were a box that could adjust the key of the audio coming out of a console that's been overclocked. That would be a really neat product because you could use it on multiple consoles
Sane mentality: >Learns something >"Cool! I wonder how many new stuff I can create with it!"
Zoomer mentality: >Learns something >"I'm suddenly better than everyone who came before me, even though they're the very people who developed the stuff I know. Now, I'm going to fix the past"
This is like the sound equivalent of playing 3D console games upscaled to higher resolution. NES music was written for the NES sound chip, not some hypothetical Platonic ideal sound chip that didn't exist at the time.
Wouldnt it be closer to those "SNES music without compressed samples" videos?
Forest of Illusions actually hurt my ears, they were clearly designed with the compression in mind
> it's not even the spec of the chip
i hate these money grubbing, hand rubbing parasite youtubers so much that it's unreal. they have no concept of how anything works. he got so assblasted when the video was released that he deleted hundreds of comments because he couldn't accept how triangle is no longer perfect and no longer sounds like nes. he really thought he was making it better.
people like this youtuber need to be shot in the face.
>Youtuber goes through the entire effort of learning, explaining and modding a retro console's sound chip for fun, gets recognition for it
>homosexuals on /vr/ with no worthwhile skills b***h and complain as if it were more pertinent to the board (it isn't), and will be forgotten as soon as the thread is archived
Suffer.
low quality bait
here's your one reply
No youtube is WRONG. Thats what the developers intended. Frick stupid hipster zoomer youtubers who think they know better than everyone just for clickbait views. I hate when youtube promotes sensational headline clickbait bullshit and everyone starts parroting it like its gospel. Because apparently the masses of dumbasses cant think for themselves or form their own opinions.
It's just a youtube video. You don't need to sperg out about it.
>hmm I think I'll make a thread on /vr/ about [literally any topic]
>I know, I'll make my self sound like an antagonistic zoomer butthole, that will get me (You)s
no longer interested in whatever you wanted to post, frick off and try again
>Z-zoomers!
Yes.
I hate clickbait titles like that. It's clearly not "wrong" if it sounds all right.
Please know my stance about emulating the quirks and flaws of original hardware.
In short, I LOVE HOW THE HARDWARE ORIGINALLY SOUNDS. That's it. If I never made this experiment, I would have been recording audio straight from various hardware and saving them for my collection. I firmly believe that every hardware is unique and its individual quirks should be perfectly preserved via proper emulation, or better, lossless hardware recordings. Even if the Namco N163 sounds like crap, it's what it is, and it should sound like that.
Now, for the people who say, "[the stuff I tried to do] doesn't make it better". You know what? "Better" depends on the goal of the individual. If you're trying to say that "smoothing out the triangle wave doesn't make it better" then in the perspective of recreating the sound of the original hardware, of course that's bad. But for the purposes of THIS VIDEO, whose goal is to make an experiment and hear how the NES could sound like if its flaws were not present, then it doesn't matter. The NES is trying to make a triangle wave. However, a triangle wave does not have steps. I merely helped the NES achieve what it was trying to achieve. And the result was interesting to hear so I shared my findings.
I never claimed that "the NES should sound like this" or anything similar. If anything, I learned to appreciated the NES more—by fixing its flaws, I understood just how many sacrifices it had to make to even generate the sounds it can generate.
Again, for the last time, I fully support the faithful recreation of hardware audio. I hope you understand.
Feel free to continue writing your comment even if it is "you killed the NES and it will come to haunt your dreams". However, if that is the case, as writing and explaining the same thing over and over again is tiring, and there are other comments on different topics that could spark a more interesting conversation, I may not be able to reply to your comment. Please understand.
>I LOVE HOW THE HARDWARE ORIGINALLY SOUNDS.
Yet he calls what he's done an improvement over the original and that it achieves what the the chip creators failed to achieve.
I appreciate the effort though and it's interesting hearing the sound waves the NES produces in comparison to more analog-like waves. But it definitely could have been done without the click-baity title.
it's not an improvement. it's not what the designers of the ricoh chip intended for it to sound like. the triangle wave generated is to spec of the chip. it's intentional. anyway, this vid and cringe thread is nothing more than zoomy schizophrenia, once again trying to rewrite history and failing miserably at it. can't wait for the next cringe piece of shit. maybe someone will replace the sine lookup table in YM chips with a saw and then say: yep, that sounds better. reddit told me so.
>whose goal is to make an experiment and hear how the NES could sound like if its flaws were not present, then it doesn't matter.
lmao. this is the cope post he pinned in his youtube comments after he deleted hundreds of comments that criticized the shit out of his gay video. the man is a complete fricking moron and has taken the wise path of going back to making oscilloscope videos of other people's music that nobody watches.
Have any emulators implemented this? The sawtooth fix doesn't mean much to me but removing quantization noise seems purely superior
>apply smoothing filther
>"look I fixed it guys!"
have a nice day.
I hate pretentious homosexuals like the one who made this video
My thoughts exactly. And he's probably the "Anonymous" 2 posts above your.
i can't for the life of me imagine a scenario where a sane person would get angry about a video like that. but he we are. you guys are weird. that's all i have to say about this
The video itself is fine. I think people are just reading the stupid bait thread title and getting pissed at the video for it.
>The video itself is fine.
I think it's a pretty embarassing watch frankly
>I just farted.
>Come on, come closer!
>Let it sink in your nostrils for a minute.
>Now take a deep breath...
>Isn't my presence the sweetest aroma you've ever been graced upon ?!
>That's not all, let us compare to the perfumes from Dior and Channel
>Smell them.
>Now, let me fart again.
>...
>See???
>I'm gonna make a video and claim THIS is the WAY to experience NES and everything else is WRONG, including using original hardware
>wtf guys why are you pissed at me???????
The problem is the video title. The original sound was already perfect, because it sounded exactly like an NES was supposed to sound. Claiming this modded version is "perfect" is just plain wrong.
Don't shill your video on Ganker next time.
>your video
you're actually THAT moronic aren't you? that's almost funny. almost...
people here literally think there's de10 shills
>Perfect NES Sound Chip
God, the state of YouTubers... Luckily, I used an alternative mean of watching that doesn't count any favorable metric toward the uploader. Better luck chasing clout next time.
ffs, people are really getting an emotional reaction on the use of perfect in the title.
It literally produces perfect sound waves. It doesn't mean he's claiming it's an objective improvement in all instances. It's an experiment.
>perfect sound waves
that would be sine waves though, triangle waves are an approximation of sine waves.
The fact that everyone on this thread is aping about some guy's experiment on something as primitive as the 2A03 is unreal.
/vr/ is full of RGB podcast redddit morons.
the OG SNES and NES ship weere garbage compared to the Yamaha chips SEGA and Sony used in their consoles, those even ended up on PC as soundfonts.
Though all were shit compared to Roland, Amiga and Creative Labs Sound Blaster
I gave the benefit of doubt and watched the whole video. Just another case of "it's cleaner now I fixed it". OP must've been raised on Daft Punk or something and thinks that everything should sound the same.
Would be awesome if there were a box that could adjust the key of the audio coming out of a console that's been overclocked. That would be a really neat product because you could use it on multiple consoles
Ironically, this is the opposite problem of going from CRT to LCD, but presented in the same way.
What nes games have singing in them?
Sane mentality:
>Learns something
>"Cool! I wonder how many new stuff I can create with it!"
Zoomer mentality:
>Learns something
>"I'm suddenly better than everyone who came before me, even though they're the very people who developed the stuff I know. Now, I'm going to fix the past"