Xenoblade 2 kinda had that. Malos was evil because his name is literally “evil” in Latin and instead of giving him a name change the protagonists beat the shit out of him
Actually he's evil because he was awakened by a guy who fricking hates everything because his mom was killed and that kind of imprinted onto him as a general hatred for everything.
>yeah, I know the villain is a piece of shit and none of what he's doing is justified but, get this, he has a tragic backstory
This trope has been done to death already. I swear, I'm waiting with bated breath until the day the writers come forward and admit that this entire game is just a satire of JRPGs
>couldn't not be evil though, it was pretty much genetically coded into him
Isnt that what happens in naruto. I never got very far in it but I heard sasuke's clan is literally fricking genetically predisposed to be buttholes.
I actually couldn't think of any off the top of my head. It feels like every villain these days is either some extremist that has a flawed idea of how to best do good for the world, or a victim of dehumanized systems that wants to put an end to everything.
Dragon Quest 9 sort of does this but the misunderstanding that caused his downfall was ironed out and he went off to frick his waifu, so the problem was addressed.
What? >haha I have unlimited power but instead of creating infinite resources or magically elevating people's consciousness to understand that they're current way of living is unsustainable I'm going to instead halve the population of everything which will inevitably be undone in a few hundred years
Thanos wanted people to be grateful and live within their means as well and making resources infinite creates the exact opposite effect.
Thanos's mistake was he didn't send out a message throughout the universe first so people could understand why it was happening, but I guess he just wanted to do the Snap in the moment. He was too eager to destroy the stones in Endgame too, he should have kept track of the universe's population and do the Snap every time the population grew too big.
Thanos' mistake was he was literally overcompensating for failing the first time by enacting his batshit plan on all of fricking reality with zero care for the context of everyone.
He didn't need to tell anyone because in his delusions everyone would just settle into the new way of things and he'd be vindicated.
To people who completely misunderstood the comic. The bullying isn't the problem. It's the system in which people are forced to eat each other like wolves that's the real problem.
I can't think of a single instance where the protagonists will simply kick the misunderstood villain ass and leave at it.
The closest I can see is Dhaos from Tales of Phantasia. But the party does understand his motives, but they simply cannot let him be since his objective, which was to restore mana to the world so that Yggdrasil may produce the mana seed which he needs desperately for his planet, clashes with the existance of humanity, that will naturally drain the planet of its mana as they develop.
So it could be interpreted as revenge against humankind for depleting the world's mana, but ultimately he simply NEEDs humanity wiped out so that he may save his own people, so he couldn't be reasoned with.
The average JRPG plot is >Teenager either living ordinary life or moved to new place >Discovers he has a special power >Has to search for a mystical item/weapon >Fights god or some god-like entity >Goes back to ordinary life
>every single JRPG plot
I can't even think of a single JRPG with that plot
Xenoblade 2 kinda had that. Malos was evil because his name is literally “evil” in Latin and instead of giving him a name change the protagonists beat the shit out of him
Malos couldn't not be evil though, it was pretty much genetically coded into him. He does get sort of convinced at the end anyway.
>Villain is evil because... he just is
Woah
Actually he's evil because he was awakened by a guy who fricking hates everything because his mom was killed and that kind of imprinted onto him as a general hatred for everything.
>yeah, I know the villain is a piece of shit and none of what he's doing is justified but, get this, he has a tragic backstory
This trope has been done to death already. I swear, I'm waiting with bated breath until the day the writers come forward and admit that this entire game is just a satire of JRPGs
>couldn't not be evil though, it was pretty much genetically coded into him
Isnt that what happens in naruto. I never got very far in it but I heard sasuke's clan is literally fricking genetically predisposed to be buttholes.
I actually couldn't think of any off the top of my head. It feels like every villain these days is either some extremist that has a flawed idea of how to best do good for the world, or a victim of dehumanized systems that wants to put an end to everything.
I really miss villains who're just c**ts.
Name 5.
Underage Panty Quest I
Underage Panty Quest II
Underage Panty Quest III
Underage Panty Quest IIII
Underage Panty Quest V
>Underage Panty Quest IIII
How dumb are you?
>he's never played Underage Panty Quest 2, 2
Dragon Quest 9 sort of does this but the misunderstanding that caused his downfall was ironed out and he went off to frick his waifu, so the problem was addressed.
Why would it have to be addressed?
Man the frick up pussy.
You always become friends with your enemies in those games though.
Not really but that is the plot of Avengers: Infinity War/Endgame.
What?
>haha I have unlimited power but instead of creating infinite resources or magically elevating people's consciousness to understand that they're current way of living is unsustainable I'm going to instead halve the population of everything which will inevitably be undone in a few hundred years
free will is a gift and curse
Thanos wanted people to be grateful and live within their means as well and making resources infinite creates the exact opposite effect.
Thanos's mistake was he didn't send out a message throughout the universe first so people could understand why it was happening, but I guess he just wanted to do the Snap in the moment. He was too eager to destroy the stones in Endgame too, he should have kept track of the universe's population and do the Snap every time the population grew too big.
Thanos' mistake was he was literally overcompensating for failing the first time by enacting his batshit plan on all of fricking reality with zero care for the context of everyone.
He didn't need to tell anyone because in his delusions everyone would just settle into the new way of things and he'd be vindicated.
>get bullied
>kill millions
>bawwwww why didn't you just give him a therapy session instead of ending his psychotic ass
You can't really have a meaningful critique of capitalism in a game that supposed to sell at least a million copies.
>get bullied once
>become satan
Is it that easy?
It worked fine for me
I was bullied and dont think about exerting revenge on humanity for it.
Why not?
To people who completely misunderstood the comic. The bullying isn't the problem. It's the system in which people are forced to eat each other like wolves that's the real problem.
That system is called humanity and there is no changing it
You sound like a moronic commie.
Changing nature is literally the only ability humans have. Without it we're just naked apes.
>player marries and impregnates the villain
>player defeats god and replaces him
Which ending is objectively better?
Villain impregnates the hero and they live happily ever after conquering the land.
>Having Friends
I can't think of a single instance where the protagonists will simply kick the misunderstood villain ass and leave at it.
The closest I can see is Dhaos from Tales of Phantasia. But the party does understand his motives, but they simply cannot let him be since his objective, which was to restore mana to the world so that Yggdrasil may produce the mana seed which he needs desperately for his planet, clashes with the existance of humanity, that will naturally drain the planet of its mana as they develop.
So it could be interpreted as revenge against humankind for depleting the world's mana, but ultimately he simply NEEDs humanity wiped out so that he may save his own people, so he couldn't be reasoned with.
No it's not. Every single JRPG plot is about murdering God.
The most hilarious version of this is Dragon's Dogma where you kill God, become God, then commit suicide killing God again
You forgot the part where you kill god
The average JRPG plot is
>Teenager either living ordinary life or moved to new place
>Discovers he has a special power
>Has to search for a mystical item/weapon
>Fights god or some god-like entity
>Goes back to ordinary life
This is why i almost always go for the villain in these things. It's particularly common in Hollywood ie apocalypse. It feels unfair