>everyone hates blizzard during the last years
>people keep making those "fall from grace" vids that last like 50 minutes
>daily threads about how much blizzard sucks
>latest game sells a gorillion copies in a few days
I just don't get it
>everyone hates blizzard during the last years
Its almost like the average consumer doesnt give a shit about whatever rage bait online weirdos talk about
This. Most don't care and only want good games to play.
>only want good games to play.
lol
consoomers don't care about good games, dummy
D4 is a good game. Keep living in denial homosexual.
>I have no standards
have a nice day
>D4 is a good game
-If you've never played D2
Blizzard doesn't make good games though.
Still seething that D4 is in fact, a good game.
What makes it anything other than a mediocre game?
its >fun
You know what they say about fun
Substantiate the claim
Anon there's literally nothing to substantiate. Press button to kill things, things die, there's lots of gore, get new loot to kill things faster. Boom, there you go, fun.
Explaining this game with any kind of seriousness in Ganker of all places is a waste of time and energy because no matter the argument, anons will hate it because they are no longer 7 years old playing diablo 2 in their abusive stepdad's defective computer.
>what makes it fun
>it tickles the dopamine part of the brain
It ain't that deep.
moron walked right into a trap of his own construction
Most don't care and don't know what a good game is from a mid one or one that is not worth $70
>finally give all the chinks what they all played on their potatos a new slap of paint.
god i hate bug people as in blizzard gays.
D4 isn’t in china dumbass.
Only Diablo Immortal
>blaming mutt problems on the chinks again
13% of Activision Blizzard's revenue is from Asia. 58% is from the Americas.
you werent lying
Americans are the sourse of all evil in the world, they're the ones financing all this bullshit and fricking with everything all the time
Americans is the israelite capital
Americans love the taste of SHIT!
>people eat shit
>YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO SAY BAD THINGS EVER AGAIN
Is this your point? It's popular so shut up?
You might be moronic. He clearly said that most people don't care and aren't reflected by all the whining, b***hing and moaning you see online. Moron.
The point is the person complaining about Diablo and blizzard online isn’t the average consoomer. you can sit in an echo chamber here and read all day about how shit blizz is but the majority of people buying this crap don’t. they probably don’t even know blizzard was in that big scandal. It’s like Pokémon, it’s not selling 13 million in a few days because the average buyer is a /vp/ gay l, it’s because some parent sees Pokémon and just buys it for their kid. you shouldn’t take what you read online as the general consensus for a product
This. It really is quite astounding how out of touch extremely online people are with the real world. Almost every single "controversy" you see being blown up on Ganker, twitter, youtube etc means absolutely nothing because 99% of consumers will never even hear about it.
Are you illiterate? You're an actual fricking moron
hahahah braindead homosexual.
>Billion dollar company does shitty thing
>Don't Care MUST CONSSSSOOOOOOMMMMM
Ethics don't matter when there is new product to consoom
This, it's like nobody cares that Blizzard doesn't stand up for trans rights. We will continue to boycott their games until they show the LGBTQ+ community the respect they deserve.
Accurate.
Every single one of my friends that b***hed about Blizzard’s treatment of every one of their series bought the game day one. Fact is it’s all theater.
Nah. This game brought people back because of how good the reception was. Then we got to try it ourself and it's the best thing they have done in years. I expected nothing after 3 and Immortal.
>This game brought people back because of how good the reception was.
Nope. It sold in numbers because it's the default big thing that's out. People buy whatever that is, every time.
gaming is dead and there is nothing else
no, you and your friends are spineless homosexuals. that is the only fact to learn from this
>Its almost like the average consumer doesnt give a shit about whatever rage bait online weirdos talk about
pic related you moron. have fun spending $70 plus tip for a cosmetic
Posting this picture is Breezewood truckstop tier smug npc homosexualry
triggered consoomgoy
true. look at hogwarts and the latest zelda game. kotaku pedo troons tried to boycot both and failed spectacularly
>le devil game totally made 666 million bros! its not a marketing stunt at all!
No shit. They counted exactly when they made that much and then reported it.
when was the last time you went outside
i completely forgot about d4 already
>666
Starfoullah brothers….
You know something’s wrong with how they never release the number of copies sold, it’s either hours played or total revenue. If the game was such a success, they wouldn’t have to tiptoe around the actual sales numbers.
yeah
they still haven't, afaik, released any dragonflight numbers to this day
a bunch of whales buying all the shit off the store on day 1 is nice, but it's not a great indicator of actual popularity
yeah given this "hame" has cosmetic MTX out the ass, some of which going for 1/3 the price of the game itself, doesn't lend itself to being very informative about the actual number of copies sold
hell for all we know, 100 people could have bought every single MTX and attributed millions of dollars to this total amount
I'm just glad I am immune to these shitty games lol
frick blizzard
It's almost like...Mongolian basketweaving forum dwellers do not always represent majority opinions in real life. The same goes doubly for Twitter and Reddit.
>It's almost like...
break this habit, you don't sound impressive.
>nothing personal kid
Either abandon or put on life support their existing games (OW2 lol) use whatever revenue from those to funnel and fund the development of Diablo IV. Take 6 fricking years to make it and it comes out as a banger. But during those 6 years Blizz fans lose faith and forsake the company.
Most of those videos don't b***h about D3. They focus on WoW, Overwatch, and Blizzards PR and MTX scandals/stuff
I wasn't gonna get it.
Then I played the beta.
I liked the beta.
I bought the game.
I'm having a great time.
The end.
Contrarian bros............what is our response to this.............
there's one born every minute
Good on you anon. I hate it but I'm giving it until season 1 to decide if I pick it back up again.
I was gonna get it.
Then I played the beta (thanks KFC)
It made me realize the game was casual mmo live service slop made for console morons
It didn't have any of the things that make a good "diablo-like" game
I didn't buy the game.
The end.
>It didn't have any of the things that make a good "diablo-like" game
Such as?
>$666 Million Sell-Through
>look up sell through
>sell through is % of inventory sold
what do they mean by this? Smells like bullshit wordplay when they even arent using it as dictionary says
probably Yet Another Play For More Investor Money that blizzard fricking loves doing
normalgays don't care about some online vids, they just play whatever is the flavor of the month
it helps that this one really encourages coop. had some friends get into it after launch day simply because of the mmo-lite features
I like Diablo Immortal, why should I jump to 4?
I basically already said it, to play with friends.
you can play with friends immortal though and it has better chat and party features + trading among warband members
i got it because my friends are into it and it's one of the few games i can bond over them with
i stopped playing at like level 37 lol
>I just don't get it
Congratulations, you just discovered the idea of a very vocal minority.
>Congratulations, you just discovered the idea of a very vocal minority.
Blizzard's playerbase is demonstrably shrinking every year.
>Blizzard's playerbase is demonstrably shrinking every year.
And yet they are earning more and more money every year.
Microtransactions are a hell of a drug. Thanks for making my point the games are getting worse.
> during the last years
Worst kind of esl
>reddit spaced
It's both idiomatically and grammatically correct an expression, it's jist shortened from "during last few years." Let me guess, you're an American, right? Britts typically understand the language well enough not to get Dunning-Krugered.
Im getting really fricking tired of nightmare dungeons and the other endgame stuff, i had fun but not 90 leaf bucks worth of fun
still better than D3 I guess
a small portion of people actually care, and even smaller are loud virtue signalers making the videos and shit. most people just guzzle down the goyslop.
It's literally a fricking grift you moron. Zoomies and jaded millenials give their lives savings to these streamer parasites to make the most cancerous garbage possible. The rest of us just play games we feel like playing.
I've said this before and I'll say it again. Blizzard could sacrifice 100 babies to Moloch every single day and make good games and I would keep buying them.
>Blizzard
>make good games
Diablo 3 is fricking great. I still play it every new season.
Numbers on screen go brr
You're moronic
Just like d2 you Black person homosexual
That's not true though
I turned off damage numbers. Now what?
Enjoy your shallow scaled game I guess?
you are the problem
No you.
666 it's not even the devil's number
what's the devl number?
originally, it was 616
According to a single manuscript translated a decade ago?
It didn't, nobody is playing this shit except paid streamers
>Youtubers who suck nipig penis are seething at this game
kek, hope they liked crapcom's latest stream lmao
Because no one actually cares, they only make noise to appear as good people, blizzard could have raped and killed 50 kids a few years prior and everyone would still be jumping on the bandwagon.
666 million is not that crazy when you consider the fact the game costs $70 minimum to buy. That's less than 10 million sales for a multiplatform IP with 20 years of brand recognition. I think only naive morons thought this game would fail completely
>fine print:
Cautionary Note Regarding Forward-looking Statements:
Information in this press release that involves Blizzard Entertainment's expectations, plans, intentions or strategies regarding the future, including statements about the availability, pricing, features, and functionality of Diablo® IV are forward-looking statements that are not facts and involve a number of risks and uncertainties. Factors that could cause Blizzard Entertainment's actual future results to differ materially from those expressed in the forward-looking statements set forth in this release include unanticipated product delays and other factors identified in the risk factors sections of Activision Blizzard’s most recent annual report on Form 10-K and any subsequent quarterly reports on Form 10-Q. The forward-looking statements in this release are based upon information available to Blizzard Entertainment and Activision Blizzard as of the date of this release, and neither Blizzard Entertainment nor Activision Blizzard assumes any obligation to update any such forward-looking statements. Forward-looking statements believed to be true when made may ultimately prove to be incorrect. These statements are not guarantees of the future performance of Blizzard Entertainment or Activision Blizzard and are subject to risks, uncertainties and other factors, some of which are beyond its control and may cause actual results to differ materially from current expectations.
>forward-looking statements that are not facts and involve a number of risks and uncertainties
>tldr: its fictional
So they're basically predicting how much money they should make and sell it as a confirmed statement... How to frick is this legal?
10 millions was impressive in 2011 when Skyrim came out. Nowadays every fricking moron owns console or PC. Garbage like CP2077 sold 20 million copies in September. We are probably close to 30 millions by now, and will reach 40-50 millions if the expansion is good, once they release definitive edition
when was the last time you went outside
BOBBY DO SOMETHING
>10 million copies in a week
>Major AAA games struggle to sell half of that years after release
>Gankertard sees this as a blizzard fail
you guys really need to go outside more
now compare to overwatch sales, which was $40 on release
>50 millions copies sold
>as of 7 years after release
>7 years
>D4 hasn't been out for even a month and already has a fifth of that
If we do the math looks like 9,5milion copies were sold
666.000.000 / 70 dolars
just a aproximation, is this good?
Doesn't the game also have mtx?
true, if you take that in consideration and the 90+ stuff
you might make an aproximation of about 6.000.000 copies perhaps
Only some whales bought the game, most ppl even NPCs didn't quite bought this whole idea of D4
oh god oh frick you morons really are out of touch with the outside world arent you
Sort of not gonna lie, I never really look into what NPCs talk about or what they think and consume etc etc
What am I missing here?
10yrs of dev time. a couple hundred mil in marketing
It's all extremely frontloaded. Once you realize how hollow the entire thing is they already have your money. There is barely an endgame. Multiple game breaking bugs. Pretty fricked up mechanics that some of don't even work right.
It's pretty, people shill it, famous brand and has hype behind it, so it sells.
Most people don't care about a game being "frontloaded" with 60 hours of solid content, they aren't ARPG autists expecting to play it day and night for months.
Diablo 2 had a lot more satisfying way of bringing a build together. With D4 it's trivial to use "legendaries" in every slot pretty much straight from the start. It makes "legendary" effects a requirement for a simple build and thus completely nullifies the entire point of a legendary item. Whoever came up with this bullshit is a complete idiot, or trying to build a monetization system that this is just a part of.
These games aren't made for people who want to do character building anymore. That's why they scrapped the stat/attribute system in its entirety.
Legendaries in this are rare+ anon. Its why every rare is can be a legendary. Everybody ran rares or better in every slot after act 1 in d2.
I already knew it would sell a lot. Game is still garbage.
>I just don't get it
THIS JUST IN: millions of videogame players don't actually go to Ganker, Ganker's tortanic attitude isn't actually representative of anything
i think we can at least assume that blizzard diverted all of their worthwhile assets to the creation of this game. would absolutely explain the state of WoW and overwatch
>10 million copies sold
Apologize immediately, doomposters.
It was a pretty fun game for about a week. Balance is shit though, and the post-level 50 experience is horrible. Also, if they don’t reverse course on some of their decisions on what is account wide, their seasons will be DOA.
I bought the game but honestly I think it’s a little boring. Maybe because I’m playing singleplayer. I have no friends and as far as I know this game doesn’t have matchmaking.
It's almost like dumb moronic normalgays will throw money at whatever populargame™ is advertised at them
>Playing diablo 4
>have a question about a skill, or item, or build
>my choices are 42 different clickbait websites or reddit
>decide i dont care and just keep playing
>I just don't get it
They had multiple free weekends to try the game out. People tried it, liked it, then bought it. It's really not hard to get.
>blizzard constant scandals, lawsuits, mismanagement, harassment, and anti-consumer practices
>hated by normies for drama, hated by journos for pro-china, activision merger and sexual abuse scandals, hated by fans for raping their favorite franchises and for microtransaction hell, hated by Ganker because IP rape and woke political shit
>new game released (still a raped product)
>millions of profit
>suddenly everyone is praising them
I fricking hate consumerist NPCs, they lack both memory, principles, standards, taste, and foresight. Nothing will change or improve if these morons keep buying, even against their own interests.
it's impossible for a huge company to release a good product because the NPC goy Black personcattle is dumb as frick, they can't judge, they don't understand things, they don't criticize, they don't analyze, all they do is consume and do what's popular, and they all do what everyone's doing, and what everyone's doing is controlled by PR, ads, etc. Why the frick is there even a thread about D4? I don't even need to watch trailers or gameplay of it to know that it's some generic ass crap with floaty gay animations and sounds and gameplay all engineered to generate maximum pleasure in the normaloid mind. Stuff like: drudgery simulation collect 5000 used Black person condoms, collect 500 used heroin needles, donate 6 trillion in game dollars to troony_npc#4236, reach level 999, boring ass "realism" where you have to do every fricking boring thing like tie your shoelaces, eat every 10 minutes otherwise your character dies, clean your guns every minute otherwise they do 2-3 damage instead of 100, and ofc crafting. Collect 500 rat skins to create a gay hat that gives you a 1% damage boost to [gun nobody uses]. NORMALOIDS WANT BORING SHIT! THEY JUST WANT DRUDGERY AND NICE GRAPHICS! THEY'RE SHALLOW STUPID ASS MAGGOTS
Calm down schizo, it's just a game (and a pretty fun one at that)
who hurt you sweaty?
The name and the brand carries weight and it being okay made it a huge success with zero long term momentum unless they pull another LoD out of their ass. Which they won't.
Nevertheless it still means they can ride this for a while longer. Sadly the game is not good enough to represent competition in the genre.
Pokemon is selling better than ever and it's objectively the worst it's been in years. Sales don't mean anything in terms of quality.
PLA was great though
PLA is alright, I'm talking about trash like SV and SwSh though.
good games > bad companies
D4 is mediocre though
d4 is good, and there are many d1/2 vets that want to play it. Sure 3 was not deserving to be part of the franchise they fricked it up that badly but 4 so far has been true to its roots. On V this opinion gets attacked so your perception is twisted. You cannot like it here. Ganker is great but you must understand its pitfalls/downsides.
That's just not true. D2 streamers are mostly negative, D3 streamers mostly positive.
Of course D3 streamers are positive when 4 is nearly a carbon copy in most aspects.
dont get your opinion from streamers, I personally hate what they do to video games. While I dont watch them whatsoever, I enjoy when I hear people troll them and their "experience", the same way they twist and troll players by changing the games we play in order to fit their streaming "career". How many games have they heavily influenced by their own interests, countless including beloved franchises they were just tourists in.
You brought up the D2 vets. Admit that you were just making things up.
I am a diablo 1/2 vet and have a small group of friends from that era. One rare one is a diablo1 vet like myself. We have similar opinions on d4 but if its not representative of wide d1/d2 vets so be it. You can find my ratings in above post. Not concerned in changing minds or proving this point further than the anecdote. We're casuals from that period, and now boomers in gaming terms.
>"i & my friends tho"
do you realize how stupid you sound
we're on Ganker
>Sure 3 was not deserving to be part of the franchise they fricked it up that badly
Reaper of Souls was good and I think that's what restored faith in Diablo again. If Vanilla D3 had come before D4, it would have done better because of the art style and tone but not as well as it did.
fair enough, I'll take your word for it because I did not last that long. Maybe I check it out at some point. The launch of d3 was such an antithesis of what diablo was I never gave it a try again. My rough rating if I had to give it to diablos would be Diablo 10/10, diablo2 8/10, diablo3 2/10 and diablo4 7/10 but can dip if they frick up the seasons or start being cheeky.
>diablo3 2/10 and diablo4 7/10
Why are you giving different scores to the same game?
>Sure 3 was not deserving to be part of the franchise
3 was good for a while, basically in the 'middle' of its lifespan. It was bad on launch, but after they removed the RMAH and re-did loot drops to match a game with no AH, then released RoS the game was good. In the end they fricked it up again by cranking drop rates up way too high to the point where the game turned into endless paragon grind with little to no build progression beyond getting more +main stat, which ruined it once again but in a completely different way than vanilla on release. I believe at this point they even give you a full set when you start every season, that's the level of "gear progression" in D3.
the diablo III I played on launch had nothing to do with the franchise, not in atmosphere or narrative/story. Gameplaywise I'll hold my judgement since its not as important to me. Perhaps the expansion fixed it as some anon mentioned above, but I was not there to witness it since the color palate was so off-putting I never touched it again. If they fixed the game to be more what diablo is, that is great. D4 luckily hit the mark in atmosphere and the feel of the universe diablo created in the 90s. I hope they keep it up and dont frick it up.
Everything you are talking about is superficial. Ultimately it doesn't feel like any previous installment. Perhaps it's most fair to say it feels like what casuals remember of diablo1/2/3 and not what the games actually are.
>Ultimately
Ultimately its your opinion, and you're welcome to hold it. You know mine.
This double Black person had the gall of claiming that he isn't playing anymore on twitter when he is and shilling it behind the scenes like the rest.
D3 suffers from the same problem as the DmC: The Reboot. It's a decent game within its own right, but gets enormous hate by affiliation with the rest of the franchise.
spot on.
>many d1/2 vets that want to play it
Blatant lie, simple as that
newbie do not speak of which you do not understand
watch d2 streamers
streamers don't matter, zoom zoom. They have their own agenda, moron.
what kinda agenda do d2 streamers have? they would make bank by going all in on d4.
They have all went in on D4
biggest d2 streamer llama already said hell go back to d2
Yeah, when the numbers and money begin to fall off because there is demand for it, he will move back. That shit is a business. He even changed his tune entirely on D4 when he realized that the game had 3 million concurrent players. Streamers are manipulative liars and marketers nothing more.
yeah you could see he hated the game but the money is too good now. at least he didnt start praising the game.
d2 babies are the worst
their agenda is their own stream, their own audience and their own revenue. They exist in their own streaming world and are not indictive of what an average gamer goes through when they play a game. I don't fricking talk to my chat when I play a game for one. Their opinions are dogshit because they are inherently biased. Unfortunately they today have the most sway with developers.
I understand you are homosexual and you lie more than todd howard, no veteran from D1/D2 would touch D4... so stop putting words in our mouth moron.
i'm a diablo1/2 vet and am a diablo4 enjoyer. Sorry to bust the narrative.
You are larper homosexual
nothing personel kid
It happens every time with Blizzard
Even Diablo Immortal printed money despite how much everyone hated on it
I bought it too.. but I'm not even lvl50 yet and I'm already bored of it.. i can't see this thing going for years in it's current state.
>for years
this is the current months game, by august everyone will have forgotten about it
Everyone online, maybe. GTA5 and Witcher 3 still sell literally millions a year and nobody on >reddit or Ganker or twitter really talks about those games anymore.
I fricking hate transmog. Armors have no meaning besides numbers
Not like it had any meaning besides numbers before
It did, when you saw someone rocking a green beanie in d2 you knew that dude had a shako, or someone had IK gear or whatever
Theres no commitment now, just find armor with slightly higher numbers and transfer them magically into itger soulless gear
*other
as I get older I feel like I'm being pushed out of reality
I do not watch capeshit movies, I don't listen to mumble rap, and I'm not going to buy diablo 4
Diablo 4 is definitely less cringe than the former 2 tho
its literally the same shit, the d4 ads even had weird zoomer pop music
Dont have tv
Dont watch ads
Wouldnt know
I disagree
>as I get older I feel like I'm being pushed out of reality
same here. But it's genuinely shit, not just nostalgia or boomerism.
Don't care, not playing a Blizzard game.
congratz
don't care
impossibly mediocre game
This is probably not the thread to ask this, but I was just wondering, are there any fun/memorable characters like Zoltun Kulle in D4?
Neyrelle is probably more lame and annoying than Leah
Lorath is just okay. Donan had some nice arc but dies after recovering from his son dying.
Meshif comes back from D2 and is 10/10 but dies
There's a side quest Merchant called Rakaan who's based, you find out he lives in symbiosis with a butcher demon possessing him, the demon likes human pleasures and not killing, instead subsisting on relics that emanate suffering. All their dialog and voice acting is cool
Sadly nobody quite fills Zoltun Kulle's boots. The side quests are better overall than the campaign, they set a nice tone collectively for each region.
Thanks friend, that's informative and depressing.
Vigo's arc got me
Caste and social class are real, OP.
The kind of people who unironically buy blizzard games are natural slaves.
Diablo 3 combat and monster variety was very, very good in the post Necro release of RoS. They just didn't bother creating any worthwhile activities in the endgame. Later seasons got better with the Altar of Rites and Sacred Weapons but it was too little too late. It coulda been grand, but they let it die on the vine to POE of all things. The literal only season mechanics I remember pre the end were "all treasure goblins come in pairs when spawned" and "Ring of Royal Grandeur is just always on for everybody." Shit needs to be better than that.
Otherwise yeah post Reaper of Souls the skeleton of a good game was there.
>don't show the number of copies sold
this is all you need to know, a lot of ppl did not enter this boat, game is already forgotten by the masses
Game is mediocre
Those who bought the game are NPCs and they are the majority of ppl, so it is no surprize they can make money no matter what
Even cyberpunk2077 made money...
You’re a terminally online gay that actually gives a shit about a company’s politics.
Normal people don’t give a shit and couldn’t name a single game developer or ceo/coo of one.
You even know they’re presumably wary life history. Don’t pretend you’re normal and are confused why normal people buy popular games.
Why don't they just release actual sales numbers.
If you account for $90+ editions, this is only like 5 million sales.
Hi it's me I'm the hypocrite.
I bought the game. It's fun, I like playing it. Now I know how my friend who still plays hearthstone feels.
Cash shop sucks but I exclusively play shapeshifter druid so literally doesn't affect me in any way.
>It's me, hi, I'm the problem it's me
>It's me, hi, everybody agrees
It’s a very good Steam Deck game
>Another meme metric
Yeh this game did not meet Blizzards targets.
Its just the usual Black person cattle being dumb Black person cattle. Not much you can do about it really. This is why you should have no aversions to piracy honestly. There will always be 10 goy cattle who foot the bill for you.
when are they fixing the game?
D3 sold 20.000.000 copies
God of War sold 23.000.000 copies
D4 sold about 9.000.000 at best idk about beeing a great hit tbh specialy because of the users reviews
D3 sold 12 million copies in its first year. Then an additional 15 million post-RoS. D4 selling 10 million in 1 week is pretty fricking amazing, especially considering that Blizzard's reputation is in absolute shambles these days.
It didn't sell 10 million though, you're literally make this up.
$666 million / $70 = 9.5 million. And that's just in FIVE days.
in b4 "BUT SOME PEOPLE BOUGHT $100 EDITIONS"
>This is the IQ of the average Blizzslop consumer.
mts
100$ editions
90$ boxes
merchandise
not even close to 10mi brah
600 million does not mean they sold 10 million copies if you take editions and microtransactions into account.
>Detailed in a press release, Blizzard has announced that Diablo 4 has crossed the $666 million milestone within five days of its launch. It's important to note that Blizzard is using June 6 as its official launch date, even though the early access period began on June 1, which players could gain access to by buying special editions of Diablo 4. Blizzard has not revealed how many copies of Diablo 4 that have been sold, and the $666 million also includes microtransactions from Diablo 4's in-game shop, which includes some expensive armor sets.
Almost two weeks.
Figure includes early access shekels.
Includes cosmetic shekels.
Kys Pajeet.
>Almost two weeks.
>Figure includes early access shekels.
>Includes cosmetic shekels.
Okay, so what? I don't know why you'd consider this some sort of "own". The game still made $666 million in absolute record time, despite all the 'Blizzard is dead and D4 won't sell at all' doomsaying from morons like yourself.
Sir you shouldn't just make things up, like 10 million sold copies.
You must be dense. After big Bang Theory and 'geek chic' people simply ape what they saw previously praised; people praised Diablo 3 because they thought they were supposed to like Diablo 3.People praised Skyrim to fricking death because they heard people liked Oblivion and Morrowind. People cling to 'iconic' companies because it lets them fit in. It's easier to settle into the consensus than think for yourself on things you don't really understand.
The game is fun while you're doing the campaign, and it does have an entertaining adventurous campaign, but then the endgame turns into you wondering what you're supposed to do now? And then it's just bounty tasks and dungeons with affects. The game is very bare-bones, and I expect them to make an expansion with a much needed Paladin class, and a lot more endgame content that fleshes out the builds a lot better.
Gone is the RNG type drop system from DIablo 2, and now the drop system is very catered to your level and current gear. You can't trade cool items with other players, and they also fricked up on making every item made for only the class that got it. When Blizzard decided to remove the free trading system they ruined the game for the worse
>everyone hates blizzard during the last years
you live in a echochamber
according to the internet everyone also hates ea for lootboxes and gambling shit in fifa but it still sells every year.
NPCs will be NPCs ...
majority of ppl are just mindless zombie slaves
White people are a joke.
It's the best Diablo game
The first 1000 hard-core race is a slog now, stuck at 62 and have to put in 2 hours of dungeons per level. It fells like leveling in d2 used to be, not good
It's much more grindy than D2. You could level a char in a day in D2 and max level eas unnecessary.
You can go from level 62 to level 80 in D2 in the same time it takes to level from 62 - 63 in D4.
Revenue =/= copies sold, the game has microtransactions in it. But anyone who thought this would flop is an idiot, regardless.
>$666 million also includes microtransactions from Diablo 4's in-game shop, which includes some expensive armor sets.
"10 Million game sales".
I know D4brainlets can't into math, but this is clearly a red down arrow.
It's literally all dumb frick Americans. Every Diablo 4 thread is shat on until Americans wake up then it's nothing but Blizzard dick sucking.
>includes microtransactions from Diablo 4's in-game shop
Kinda glossed over that important factoid Blizzbucks.
>not knowing what generated revenue means
The only moron here is you.
Gamers are moronic and I don't mean that metaphorically. The average person is stupid, the average consumer is really stupid, the average gamer is moronic. Gamers are literal cattle, they will eat whatever slop you put in front of them and pay for it. They beg for new ways to consume slop and pay for it. Pre-order, DLC, MTX, season passes, battle passes, skins, outfits, weapon charms, level skips, map packs, battle pass levels, fake currency, rerolls, spins, anything and everything gamers love to consume. They will consume in every conceivable way with glee.
lets be honest here, the avarage person is a bit of a generalization
the avarage american or european is stupid
In latin america, india, china, russia etc etc ppl are not buying this shit
all those sold copies comes from Europe or North America
ppl from other countries don't have the same values as you guys
some will say "muh you're just poor" but that is not true, might be a factor yes but we're talking about 5 bilion ppl while americans and europeans count for 1 bi at best
They're all playing the pirated copy on that Russian server that has been posted here a few times.
That russian server is extremely buggy to the point that you can't even play more than 5 minutes without experiencing several bugs/glitches/crashes/etc.
Those same dudes have a D3 emulated server running too, and it has also always been buggy, despite D3 being a decade old. Emulated servers for new Blizzard games are never going to work properly, because they have so much data that's server-sided.
to little ppl playing like this and yet they're not giving money to blizzard anyway
you gotta understand those ppl doesn't matter when we're having this discussion
It's just easier to tailor your products for the mouthbreathers than to waste time working on real quality and perfecting your product.
yes, blizzdrones have terminal brain deficiency. this is not new.
don't care
still bought it
seeing Ganker seethe makes me enjoy it more
>levels of money laundering this intense shouldn't be possible
>Ganker watching the average Blizzslopper trying to do basic mathematics without a colored arrow to tell them if its good or bad
It's the only game around, bored .millennials have no choice
This. I'm bored and I've played every other game. My bros are all playing this one so why not buy it?
literally just do something else morons
maybe the game is just good? all the other blizzard BS aside. I mea, D2R is also graet....
Diablo 4 is the only decent game Blizz has made since Diablo 1. Diablo 2 was and has always been shit.
Why do you think that D2 is shit?
It turned Diablo into an item hamster wheel skinner box instead of a dark and atmospheric dungeon crawler. D4 still has the shitty itemization but the atmosphere has returned at least.
d4 atmosphere is nothing like d1 moron
D2(R) is pretty dark and brutal. I enjoyed playing through the campaign on normal and NM multiple times.
Is it always online? I kind of want to play it but I'd rather pirate it. Can't really pirate an always online game though.
you can play single player. dont give blizzshart your money.
I don't intend to and thanks m8, will pirate.
well shit theres a fitgirl repack up on the usual sites. I should have just checked before I asked.
diablo1 enjoyers, pure taste, pure aristocrats.
>Reads a Headline
>Doesn't read the fine print
>Gets BTFO
Yep, its the average Blizzard fan in 2023.
choppa
>that cut-to-black
Fricking cowards.
D4 appears to have less build variety than D3 in it's current form which is just bizarre but it seems to be less spongy so that's a plus
If they can pull at least an RoS for it then it might be the game D3 tried to be
Maybe
>D4 appears to have less build variety than D3
I was just about to say that
>appears to have
>"I mean, I wouldn't know. I haven't played it... But I THINK that's how the game is"
>If they can pull at least an RoS for it then it might be the game D3 tried to be
Dude, it's never going to get better. Ever. All of the fans keep saying:
>lol it was just the beta
>lol it was just act 1
>lol the end game will save it
>lol season 1 will save it
>lol the expansion will save it
Just stop consuming shit, bros. Don't flush more of your money down the toilet.
And these people that are saying all this... Are they in the room with us?
They're probably lurking the thread but are too embarrassed to post since the game sucks. They were spamming that crap on Ganker, Reddit, and the blizz forums for months.
>Dude, it's never going to get better
D3 launch was 10x worse than D4's launch, and they managed to turn D3 around, without even having any incentive to really do so. With D4 they NEED to make it better to sell battle passes and cosmetics.
I feel like D3 doesn't really have build variety, it has set variety. Outside that one legendary, every build is dictated by a certain set. It's hard to explain but it feels less like making a build and more like being stuck to a specific blueprint. I kind of hated it.
they only cut to black because they didnt want to waste any more money on animation budget
Isn't D4 what all yo homosexuals were b***hing about wanting D3 to be? I don't understand.
I'm having a great time with it so far, reminds me of a high fidelity D2 with modernized controls.
no people wanted an rpg with build options, cool items, trade etc
>inb4 d4 has those, no
D4 has as many build options as D2 though
>cool items
90% of the builds in D2 used the same items. There's arguably more variety in D4 from what I've seen so far
d4 doesn't even have a stat system
half of all items are class specific
its not an rpg anymore
Lol you're right. Totally forgot about that. D2 still the GOAT
>d4 doesn't even have a stat system
What the frick are you on about? It does have a stat system.
>hasn't played it
>stat system
Do you mean attributes? That's what the paragon system is. But sounds like you haven't played a diablo game before anyway so this arguing is kind of pointless.
the paragon board is nothing like an rpg atrribute system you 80iq baboon.
You literally select nodes to give you STR/INT/WILL/DEX and then there's thresholds for rare glyphs and legendary glyphs like "You must have X amount of Z". What the frick are you talking about, you spastic?
you absolute moron have never played an rpg. the attributes in this game are just multipliers, there are no meaningful choices to made.
>the attributes in this game are just multipliers, there are no meaningful choices to made
The stat system in D4 is 100x more meaningful than the one in D2. Did you ever complain about D2's stat system? Because if you didn't, then shut the frick up.
Lmfao
What stat system?
In D2 you literally just got enough in STR/DEX to wear a few specific items and then dumped the rest into VIT.'
In D4 you literally have up to 6 paragon boards where each one has a handful of rare nodes + 1 legendary node. You not only need to "travel" to which ones you want, but you also have to do it in specific ways so that you have enough STR/INT/WILL/DEX to satisfy the nodes that you want. D4 has 100 things that are valid to complain about, but you are a fricking moron if THIS is the one thing you complain about.
>In D2 you literally just got enough in STR/DEX to wear a few specific items and then dumped the rest into VIT.'
I literally just explained to you how that isn't the case. You're just some nub that played the game for a few hours after school 20 years ago and read a single guide on Gamefaqs. You know nothing about the game.
>In D4 you literally have up to 6 paragon boards where each one has a handful of rare nodes + 1 legendary node.
What does that even mean
What's a paragon board, in the context of the game world? I can't think of a more uninteresting gameplay system, except for the stuff in Poe maybe
>What does that even mean
>I can't think of a more uninteresting gameplay system
So you're complaining about something, but you haven't even got a fricking clue about the game. Nice.
Welcome to Ganker
There's nothing to understand homosexual, that's what I'm saying. It's just a shitty menu window that you click on. Its nonsensical.
>It's just a shitty menu window that you click on
Same thing for D2's character sheet where you spammed buttons to pump stats.
Nope. If your character levels up, you get to decide what they get better at. That makes sense in the context of the game world and gameplay. What the frick is a paragon?
>What the frick is a paragon?
The canon route in the Mass Effect trilogy.
Control ending of course
>Nope. If your character levels up, you get to decide what they get better at.
Same thing in D4, you level up and pick stats or other bonuses.
No you don't. You don't get to decide where your stats go when you level up
>You don't get to decide where your stats go when you level up
Once you hit level 50 you get 4x paragon points every level (25%, 50%, 75%, 100%). Maxed out you get ~220 points in total that you can distribute. Every point goes into paragon boards. See
everything this anon said is a lie and
is fabricated
Alright, so you just got blown the frick out because you got exposed for actually having ZERO knowledge about the game, and now you're switching over to a "I was just pretending to be moronic" mode. Got it.
Why do they wait until you're level 50? Why don't you get to choose stats before that arbitrary point? How does that make any sense?
how do stats make any sense? You just arbitrarily get points you can put in any attribute?
>Why do they wait until you're level 50? Why don't you get to choose stats before that arbitrary point?
They probably didn't want to confuse casuals by making them spend talent points + paragon points at the same time in the beginning.
nta, but you're either clueless or lying. there's a reason d4 ditched the traditional rpg attribute system. it's to give the player fewer options.
There's literally multiple boards full of stats and you decide which to get. Are you sure you know how the game works?
yes, have you ever played an rpg?
Yes, I played many RPGs with many different systems.
ok so in an RPG a strong character would be able to equip heavier armor at the expense of some other attribute. does a similar dynamic exist in d4?
So many game that has attributes that don't restrict equipment isn't an attribute system? What kind of autistic logic is that
in a good rpg atrributes should at least do something meaningful, yes.
That isn't meaningful though. Armor is just an arbitrary stat boost like anything else
That's precisely the point. a bad rpg reduces eveything to "arrow goes up".
Every single rpg that exists can be reduced to "number go up" though
yes, but diablo 4 doesn't even attempt to conceal this, which is what roleplaying is all about.
another example of this is that there is no difference between cloth armor and plate armor in this game.
Why are you expecting Diablo to be a CRPG when it literally has never been one
diablo 2 had some basic rpg mechanics that could have been expanded upon. instead we got less with each iteration. in d4 it's all about arrow up.
D4's stat system(paragon boards) is MASSIVELY improved compared to D2's stat system.
The stat system in D4 is wildly more expensive than the system in D2 as it pertains to building your character.
So far the only place D2 shines for me is it had way more interesting itemization.
you simply dont understand rpg character building. it's about the scarcity of attributes and how you build your character from the ground up. nothing fundamentally changes after level 50 in d4.
You haven't played the game.
i have. not to level 50 though, and I don't need to.
Post your character and not an entry from a wiki you got from your favorite YouTuber.
I'm phoneposting and don't have a character anymore since i dont own the game.
Oh a double deflection in one post, nice. Glad to see I was right that you haven't played the game.
you sound indian sir.
>nothing fundamentally changes after level 50 in d4
Just stop. It's so painfully obvious that you haven't even played the game. What's wrong? Are you too poor, and that's why you are acting out like this?
Incorrect, I've played many RPGs which don't have such a mechanic. It's by no means a universal feature of the genre.
no shit, but if you want character building options the stats should at least do something interesting.
There are indeed many interesting options you need to plan around on your stats boards. It's certainly a lot more interesting than dumping everything into Vit with the bare minimum in other shit to be permitted to wear gear.
kys.
For armors? No, sadly. But it does exist in the sense of glyphs on the paragon board. Right now I'm playing my alt and working towards pic related.
seethe cope dilate kys ywnbaw ishygddt
the stats are entirely meaningless except as damage multipliers. d&d and similar rpgs introduced things like strength so that you would have to invest to be able to wear heavy armor etc.
d4 has no rpg elements in the classic sense, just damage multipliers.
there is no stat system moron. you get some multipliers at level 50 nothing more. do you need strength to wear an armor in d4, or dexterity to equip a bow?
You need those stats to equip glyphs, so yeah.
kys.
You have no control over your stats, it's not a system.
You literally select nodes with stats, what is this cope
You mean you select the ones you're forced to to get the node you want, in other words, you pick what the dev wanted you to pick
Nah, I picked the ones that best fit the character I'm role playing as in this RPG.
You mean the one that gives your class damage? Lmao
>you pick what the dev wanted you to pick
Each board has a handful of different rare nodes that you can pick between, and a legendary one. You can also spin the boards in any direction you want and combined up to 6-7 of them, in any order and direction you want.
You have clearly not even played the game.
What's a board?
You use it to kickflip.
>Can't answer
lol
Paragon boards, you fricking numbskull. Go do just 2 minutes of research about the game. Each white node is 5 STR/INT/WILL/DEX. Each blue node are magic ones with all sorts of offensive/defensive/utility stats. Each yellow node are rare ones with big stats + a bonus requirement for extra stats. Each orange node are legendary ones that boost your build a lot.
Pic related, is the build I am using right now. It's from a build website, just to show you what the overview is like.
I know what it's called dumdum, im asking you what a paragon board is, in the context of the game world. Why is it a board? What does that mean?
>I need a lore explanation of UI and menus
>Why is it a board? What does that mean?
Who the frick cares? Why is the character sheet in D2 a character sheet? What does that mean in the context of the game world?
What is a level in the context of an RPG and why would an attribute system ever make sense?
If you're going by that logic the only skill system that would make sense is something elder scrolls / RuneScape of leveling what you use
>this is the average level of intellect of Gankertards
Some of you shouldn't be allowed to vote.
Not him but it's really not. Stats were build defining in D2 for a few characters at least. Lots of melee builds went full strength, some went full vit, others went dex and vit for max block, some bowazons went full dex, etc. If you only played casters then stats were basically meaningless since everyone just went full vit. However, mana shield sorc builds are a thing now since the mana leech bug was fixed in D2R.
What's a game with a stat system you enjoy because literally every stat system in a video game is either additive or multiplicative increases.
Yeah and in D2 literally every class got enough STR to use an archon plate and dumped everything else into stamina. Yet I never hear people b***hing about that.
That was cool getting the little pieces of armor and runes you needed to make a runeword. Now that was cool.
It has a stat system but it's really simplified and doesn't unlock until level 50+. You have to beat the game and unlock the paragon board before you get meaningful stat customization outside of gear drops/crafting. It's not even that meaningful because people only take stats to unlock nodes that actually matter for your build.
You need to form your opinion based on your favorite (preferably contrarian) youtuber without actually trying the stuff yourself. That way you can just skip gaming altogether and can seethe online about games. It's mature and totally mature.
most people don't give a shit. like me. if i like i game I buy it and play it
One things is for sure, Blizzard knows their audience.
What you, and a lot of others, do not understand is that people are so desperate for games that they flock to anything semi competent. It is very rare that AAA games come out which people actually want these days because games take years to come out due to modern graphics. It is not so surprising that the few AAA games sell well. Look at this picture. If you look from top to bottom you will see that we get less games as graphics have increased. Graphics will continue to increase which will cause less games to come out. The non busted ones will sell even more millions.
FOMO instinct is stronger than logic, by far.
We're just animals, our rate of technological progress has outstripped our social evolution by orders of magnitude, we have all these instincts that are screaming for us to do things which make no sense when looked at in the context of modern life.
Back when people lived in a tribe of a couple hundred hunter-gatherers, it would be important to participate in what everybody else was doing, it'd help tribal cohesion and thus improve survival odds. Nowadays, it's exploited by marketers to sell garbage to people who won't stop and think about what prompted them to suddenly want to buy the garbage.
This is literally all the entire field of marketing amounts to: Working out better ways to exploit primitive instincts to sell trash to people who don't understand the way their own brain works or the loopholes that are built into it. Nobody wants to assume they're fallible, but most people also don't want to put in the effort to keep their primal behaviors in check and reflect upon themselves every second of every day like a stoic.
>suddenly feel like buying diablo iv
>haven't touched my battle.net account in literally 7 years
>can't login because i need to have access to my battle.net authenticator
>find battle.net page to disable authenticator
>need to have access to the authenticator to have access to account the page to temporarily disable the authenticator
>try to find phone from 7 years ago where authenticator is installed
>remember i threw it out last year
well i guess it was a sign to not give blizzard any more money.
it does make me miss my galaxy s7 though.
this is why I go out of my way to backup those shitty codes. Those QR codes they give you are just passwords. Yeah, it's that moronic, it's just a fricking password that they package in a stupid barcode. I saved them on my computer because having those passwords on your fricking phone is moronic since you can lose it or get it stolen and backing it up on the cloud (aka Shlomo's server) is moronic
rise and fall content is popular on youtube for some reason, but the opinions come from people with no knowledge of the industry at large, and really only exist to farm clicks and views.
People who hate blizzard for bad PR moves aren't the same people buying the games.
Its actually good
The campaign is. Everything after that sucks and feels pointless
Well yeah, but thats always the case in ARPGs
Not like doing 24/7 baal/melh runs in 2 was any better
At least this still keeps me kinda entertained at lvl 65 right now
They just confirmed 20 million copies sold!
lmao is this game online only? how come they know all that crap?
these greedy homosexuals are obsessed with getting your personal data lmao
let me guess, you can't play """"""""""""your"""""""""""""" game when you have no access to the internet?
>lmao is this game online only? how come they know all that crap?
Yes. hardcore gays are getting assblasted mad as the server crashes, perma killing them and yet they just make a new character like morons lmao
Then Blizzard will monetize the game to the point that it isn't fun anymore.
Which blizzdrones will make a "fall from grace" again, ad nauseam.
Mutts are moronic as usual. More "news" at eleven.
Blizzard has been enshittified
Explain this shit D2ards.
isnt lower right from that scrapped d3 alpha?
does anyone have the original to that?
Yeah
cool
You guys seem a little upset.
>during the last years
and every single WoW expansion/D3/every other game Blizzard has made
I really enjoyed the campaign and storyline. Call me a shill but I think the writing was a noticable high point compared to the other Diablos and Blizzard games in general (and maybe even most games). Actually quite intrigued to see where it goes with the expansions and hope we get some info soon.
As for gameplay I'm starting to feel some chafing at the end game and there's lots for them to improve on but overall I'm optimistic. For a 1.0 release I think it's pretty good, but I guess I'm wondering how I'll be feeling after a month.
Also wow they definitely committed to returning to bleakness after D3
good morning sir
>yet another thread filled with "a youtuber gave me this opinion" posts
>tfw a youtuber told me to go around and tell others that they got their opinions from youtubers
just let me know when they crack it
D2R > D2 (modded) > D2 > D4 = D1 > D3
You know the morons that play these kinds of game are hopeless addicts or adhd riddled space cadets will gladly pay to blink and dash around casting their screen clearing spells from one screen to the next in a mindless fashion until they get bored after 100 hours and move on to the next dogshit game. You think in 10 years people will still be playing this shit? In 10 years people will still play D2
what do you play sir, post your 3x3.
what's even the point when most of the people that actually like D4 have adhd or fried out dopamine receptors? You're just going to criticize for playing games that make you read or provide charmful fun.
Heroes of M&M 3, Arcanum, Quake, Deus Ex, TF2, Kingdom Come.
D3 has had literal seasons with only like 1-2k people playing the game. More people were playing D2 before it even got remastered. D3 only artificially lives when some homosexual streamer plays it for the first week of the season and then it's dead.
It used to be good when it was new but the game now has no vision and fricking sucks.
>deus ex
roflcopter AAAHAHhahahaah what a meme you are.
epic retort, anon
So you just don't read? Basically magnifying the type of audience I was just talking about. You guys can circlejerk your shitty AAA games to your hearts content
So which of those totally video gamey games are you best at actually playing?
sure but you did put TF2 in there, I mean that's as goyslop as it gets. I thought you were going to be a gentleman but you are just a prole like the rest of us diablo enjoyers.
Because it's a genuinely fun game at its core even if it's left to rot and die? I was looking for other shooters to add but honestly most of them suck dick and TF2 was one of the few times I had enjoyment just goofing off and treating it as a game and nothing more.
despite the very plebian taste in shooters, you're welcome to join the diablo dopefiend cult. You may sit on the diablo council now, but we do not grant you the rank of master yet.
just post it homosexual, we like to see a gentleman' choice
not bad, here's mine also *tips*
This really reads as if you built it specifically for validation on Ganker
thank you, appreciate the (you). Was hoping for one.
fun games, other anon is an assmad zoomer
It's been 10 years and people are still playing D3 which is inferior so yeah I think in 10 years people will still be playing D4
PoE is free, even if that's an awful experience
PoE is decent but not without its problems. I played it recently as a newb and I'm convinced Gankerirgins spamming that it's terrible and shitty are too dumb to play it. They probably quit after pressing P once.
How the frick did half slots survive d2->d3 and somehow got axed for d4? Were there only women developing this game? What the frick is the purpose?
I still hate Blizzard but D4 is a good game
>260 / 37 / 112
>37
bot thread
Imagine discussing video games...woah...
My bad. I should've just came into the thread, posted "trannies" like the discord tells me to and then leave.
Sorry, anon. I'll try better next time.
that's 37 images you goober.
that is how bot work anon
I call it being stealthy.
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This game is shit and so is your advertising agency. I watched a guy stream it for 30 minutes and d2 as shallow as it is manages to be an ocean compared to this puddle.
I love how this guy arguing how bad D4 is has clearly never played D2 but is trying to pretend he is knowledgeable about both games.
Absolutely wild stuff.
its not a bad game, but I can guarantee in a month you will see everyone complaining about it, game has no endgame, so until normies get there they will enjoy
The builds are also boring as hell. Why are they so scared to give actual choice like PoE? Yeah you can build some real stinkers on PoE but at least you have the option.
that's expected, especially in streamer culture. The core fans enjoy the campaign/atmosphere/combat and are banking on the seasons to build on the game through the years much like PoE did in its hayday. PoE started with two acts and very minimal systems but with years of work it paid off for the fans.
t. golden kiwi owner
They're already b***hing nonstop on the forums and Reddit.
Reminder that D2 doesn't have stats.
Haven't bought a Blizzard game since D3. Not gonna change that now.
can you trade in this one
You can trade whites/blues/yellows and gold. You can't trade mats, legendaries and uniques.
Diablo will always be a cashcow. Remember when they announced Immortal as a mobile only game and got boo'd, and then it finally came out and made the company another few billion?
Why won't they release actual sales numbers? Why do they insist on beating around the bush with vague and obscure statements like "x total play hours" or "x micotransactions sold" or "fastest selling"
number is fricking bad that's why
read
>Cautionary Note Regarding Forward-looking Statements:
https://investor.activision.com/news-releases/news-release-details/diablor-iv-crosses-666-million-sell-through-within-five-days
There is 0 new games to play, whenever anything launches, every moron who owns a platform buys it because it's new and gets shilled by streamers on Jeff Bezos platform.
game sells a gorillion copies in a few days
lol, no, they're being very careful to not say how many actual copies the game sold. that's why they're using things like "it made $600+ million" instead of "It sold 10 million+ copies", because in reality it sold probably 5 million copies and made a bunch of money exploiting whales with more money than brains.
Grim Dawn was better
I wish people would stop shilling Grim Dawn on this board. There's a reason why everyone calls it Grim Yawn. It's so fricking slow and boring that you NEED to play with several mods if you want to make it an enjoyable game.
t. 300 hours in Grim Yawn
People ITT are arguing about the dumbest shit when D4's main problems (to me at least) are core issues:
The combat feels boring and shitty. It's like Diablo 3 but clunky and underwater. It had all of the stupid arcade-like fun stripped out of it.
It's an always online MMO with none of the social options. The world feels dead and empty despite millions of people playing it.
Level scaling feels like shit. It lessens/disappears during the end game but by that point there is nothing to fricking do.
It's a 5/10 game and inferior to Diablo 3 in basically every way that matters. Even the crafting feels worse somehow.
it's designed for adhd morons
>The combat feels boring and shitty
One of the few things that D4 has going for it is that the combat is top tier.
I disagree, anon. It feels like a modified version of Diablo 3's engine but intentionally slowed to a boring crawl. That pace is nicer in other games that mastered it like Diablo 2 but it feels bad to me in Diablo 4 coupled with the shitty cooldowns.
What level have you played to and on which class?
I played necro to around level 60 or so until I quit due to boredom. Bone spear build with splinter
>necro
Ah, okay. Understandable. Necro actually is the one class that I would agree feels kinda slow and meh overall. Not only in terms of gameplay loop, but also just in terms of absolutely dogshit mobility.
They sold an unfinished game, as always.
I refuse to pay for these types of products, it's worse than paying patreon for porn games that will never be finished.
>The combat feels boring and shitty. It's like Diablo 3 but clunky and underwater.
I don't agree, the game feels good other than riding the horse. Maybe you're playing a class that is too cooldown-dependent.
>combat feels bad
Combat is the cleanest part of the game, you're just a contrarian homosexual you lifts his opinions from video essays
>Combat is the cleanest part of the game
you're a moron entertained by shiny bells and whistles. Torchlight has better combat than this piece of shit and I hate Torchlight
It feels like shit to me.
The combat is fricking dogshit, like all ARPGs with their shitty camera angle that dipshit devs are married to for no fricking reason.
this is not the genre for you
this is not the game for you
go play something else
Shut the frick up. The combat is dogshit because it feels worse than D3 not because of the isometric view.
Also, why do people always talk on the internet as if they were the ones selling the game and making a profit on it?
Have you invested in their company and want returns?
Why are you trying to convince other people to buy such and such product?
It is a bad game.
You pay attention to Ganker and contrarian jackasses on YouTube, OP.
There. Cracked the mystery.
Lowest common denominator consumes products made for the lowest common denominator, more at 11.
Haven't made a good game in years. This is a return to form. Just ignore the cash shop and its gold.
All of the alt-computer autists from the 90s and early 2000s who don't pay attention to social media or video games still play Diablo. I have two older cousins who fit this to a T and all of their friends are playing it to. The average age of Diablo 4 players has to be at least 32.
>The average age of Diablo 4 players has to be at least 32.
Literally me.
Hell yeah, have fun with your video game uncle.
Name brand is a powerful thing
Why do you think all industries are full of remakes/rehashes etc
>want to continue knocking out side quests
>know I should just blast through some story missions so I get my mount
>still need to track down more Lilith statues
>also want to try other classes
Ahhhh there's too much to do in this game
good morning
It's 10 pm here though
you're just an insecure teenager who wants to be unique by rejecting everything he sees other people like
Yep. Damn is it liberating.
you're a bigger NPC than someone who chooses freely, regardless of whether people here like the stuff or not. I like breathing too, are you gonna hold you breath until you die now?
Yep. Breathing is gay.
should I get diablo or street fighter?
Street fighter if coomer. Diablo is old.
I am a coomer, but define old.
I guess I do play arpg's more, but I would like to actually get into a fighting game too.
hmm true
Which genre do you play the most? That's the best way to decide.
It depends entirely on what you care about. Diablo 4 definitely has more longevity. It will likely exist for 5-10 years, meanwhile SF6 will probably be dead in 1-2 years.
>play bear druid to 20
>dread playing this game
>decide to try necromancer
>game is suddenly 3x better
they really gotta fix druid man
I found bone necro dreadfully boring. The fact that other classes are even worse is a very bad sign.
i just play summoner reap
Your summons are going to fall off very hard, anon.
will it matter if i stick to world tier 3
This happened to me. Level 40 Druid. Tried every build. Always went back to bear because the others were too squishy. Even more than the fricking Necro.
I should add that Earth Druid was the only other okay option. Pretty much have to use Vine always. Really needs gear that alters skills. Good luck finding aspect of the Alpha to make wolves better.
How much of a difficulty jump is 2 to 3 world level or whatever? Working through these story now and feels like the game got pretty easy suddenly at 50+. Just want to unlock the harder difficulty at this point
If you are already 50, then you should be able to clear the capstone dungeon. The jump in difficulty by going WT3 is not that big, but you will get more XP, start getting sacred items, you can participate in Helltides, get Nightmare sigils, etc.
The main "jump" in difficulty is that you can face champions with new/more modifiers, especially suppressors.
Are there physical immunity modifiers? If so I have no clue how id beat those
The are no monster immunities in the game, which is one thing they got right.
That is good to hear. I'll keep chugging away at the story then. I'm excited for world tier 3
There's no outright immunity, other than the mobs that have an aura that makes everything around them immune, but you just kill that mob first (it has a pink glow) and that's it.
I don't understand why shills freak out when people call the game shallow, considering Blizz intentionally made it so. Makes sense from a business POV.
I still don't understand why are people trying to convince others into buying this game as if they worked for the company and took a share on the profits.
If a person is a streamer, each game bought is seen as a business decision: how much money does the game cost, how many viewers and subscribers I will get for playing such game and what will be my return.
Or if they get paid to play such a game as a way of advertising it, but, shilling for a product on an anonymous imageboard has exactly any point at all?
I mean, they might as way distribute the code to the "refer a friend" or something, but they gain nothing from this other than trying to convince other people into buying said product.
might as well*
So you can only be positive about a game if you're a shill? What if I just want to talk about a game I'm enjoying with other people that enjoy it?
Or if I just want to ignore obvious shitpost from people that clearly haven't played it so I simply don't reply to them and discuss the game with others?
Makes sense to me at least.
>So you can only be positive about a game
Why aren't you playing it and enjoying yourself, why are you advertising it on an anonymous imageboard, for free?
I'm phone posting before bed because I'm done for the night. Just finished up with Act IV and was checking if there was a D4 thread up I could chat in.
they're NPCs, moron. Normaloids advertise products for free.
The problem is that people who allegedly have so much fun with the game can't even admit what it is: a mindless grindfest created to appeal to the widest possible audience. If you like this just admit it, idc.
>liking game is bad if game is popular
I don't really care? Not going to admit anything other than I'm having fun playing the game. I don't care about any of that schizo tinfoil hat stuff
>youre a schizo if you think soulless products for the masses are bad
Do you watch Star Wars and Marvel movies too?
Yeah the original star wars trilogy is pretty good. I've probably watched a marvel movie before, so I guess yes to that one too?
Thought so.
I guess you really showed me, anon.
No desire to "show you". I was merely pointing out that D4 is the video game equivalent of SW and Marvel slop. It's not difficult to understand.
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At what point should I try to 100% the map? All altars, dungeons, blue side quests, etc? Should I finish the campaign first? WT4? WT2? I hear you get gimped if you don't beat the game first.
I'm in act 4, have horse, and just killed andariel
You don't need to 100% the map unless you're a cheevo hunter/completionist.
Getting the last renown reward for all regions doesn't need 100%, you only need maybe 80%.
I'd do it after you finish the campaign and get to t3, I waited til I got t4 myself.
completionists are mentally ill and moronic. There's no point 100%ing these normalgay AAA games. They're boring and empty. Why go and collect the 5234234th macguffin?
Complete campaign first. Then after that you can do Altars of Lilith + Strongholds. Follow that up with getting all waypoints + completing all dungeons once. After that you can then do a combination of discovering all areas + doing some sidequests to complete your full renown.
Repeat this for every zone.
So Druid sucks. What classes are fun and not awful?
I feel like my positive opinion of barbarian is irrelevant as I'm still on world tier 2. But frick does that class feel good. Being able to slightly move during most melee attacks makes it feel so fluid
Its almost like blizzard knows most people are mindless cattle who will slurp up cum and ask for seconds.
I don't want to play video game dev politics, I just want to play games.
I don't see how the Butcher could kill 6 million people so fast with the technology available to him
NGL I ran from that homie One hit nearly killed me.
OY VEY
>2.7b monsters killed
>316m player deaths
so statistically speaking, the average diablo 4 player dies to every ~9th mob they encounter. this is the face of the modern mmo live service battlepass diablo player LMAO
>suffer through druid until endgame
>get the right uniques
>pound town
imagine the poor souls who didn't stick with it
but whirlwind goes brrrrrrrrrrrr, i'll be going druid for season1 next month or whenever that is.
That's the problem with the character. Too gear dependent. Specifically unique dependent. Better off just playing another class and finding the gear you need then passing it over so the druid can progress a bit. Then repeat.
That's not how it works in d4
It does. You don't find them as much for other classes but it happens. Plus the rewards from the random dungeons can be done by other characters for the druid.
666 million? For a satanic game that worships spells and kabbalah from the Zohar and Talmud? This is like the articles that always use the number 33. Bobby Kotick is a satanist pedophile that is friends with Jeffrey Epstein
>there were people on this board that legitimately thought a Diablo game would flop
Some of you clearly spend too much time on this site.
I just held some hope it would turn out to be good and have an offline component
I always knew it would sell
They removed TCP/IP from D2R, I had literally zero faith they'd provide an offline component.
Diablo IV is more like Diablo 2 than any of the others.
D4 just feels like what D2 fans wanted D3 to be
so it's good?
I think it is. D4 launch is a lot more enjoyable than D3 launch. If support is similar to D3 I can see it having a decent future. If they actually do cool shit for seasons with all the mtx money they get from morons, it might be even better too.
But it's Blizzard so they'll probably just pocket it and do the bare minimum.
D4 has all the right systems underneath the hood for it to become a top tier game. However, it all depends on how Blizzard handles the seasons of the game and how much they are willing to change.
>D4 has all the right systems underneath the hood
Does it?
Good graphics, satisfying animations, satisfying sounds, fluidity of combat and movement(aside from mounts), the MMO-lite systems of seamless phasing in and out of instances, and so on.
The things they need to change for the game to become good are "minor" in the scheme of developing a video game. There's no inherent flaw anywhere in the game that needs a huge code rewrite. They just need to change more simple things like UI, boss mechanics, balancing, map overlay, more stash tabs, the ability to zoom out, change density of mobs, etc. etc.
fair points actually if you just want a grind fest
which systems
We both know you don't actually want to know otherwise you would've googled them already. So let's save us both some time and stop here.
name them cowatf6
The shitty shrine gathering system and the pointless and needlessly tedious to traverse open world system.
No. It feels like Diablo 3 but unfinished that thematically looks like D2.
no, it's most like immortal
Normies aren't the same as terminally online people like us and youtubers
>With this I have set things right
>No
>WHAT NO HOW CAN THIS BE SAVE ME HEAVENMAN AAAAHHHHHHHHH
Gripping storytelling
Didn't deserve it
Blizzard games are popular globally (China market Stronk, game VPN's and "internet boosters" are advertising you can play D4 with it) and there was a huge normie marketing campaign that completely skipped 'enthusiast' gaming sites
For everyone shitting on the combat, what is an ARPG with your favorite combat? People b***hed about D3 but I thought that game felt good to play as well.
I like D2, D3, and PoE's combat all more D4. To me, Diablo 4 just feels like a modified version of D3's combat that had the fun stripped from it. I liked D3 because of the stupid fast arcade feel. It differentiated itself from other games in the genre.
I like the more toned down feel. Sometimes D3 got too fast for my shitty boomer eyes. D2 is alright but mostly just you teleporting everywhere and nuking packs while you stand still
So far D4 feels a lot more like I want a ARPG to feel but I assume near max level and full build it'll just get as fast as the previous ones
Most of these games I find myself enjoying the build up to end game a lot more than the actual end game
You're going to feel very disappointed when you get to the "end game." It's grindy and pointless. I'd rather do meph 10,000 more times.
Idk if anyone can call it end game until we see what they do with the first season. Game is fundamentally unfinished until I see how much effort they put into that
Considering that Blizzard literally set fire to Canada to promote the game, I don't think ti earned as much as you think.
npc's buy this shit people here generally don't unless they are tourists and uncultured.
china pays to sabotage western games, so everyone will play chinese garbage instead. it's not complicated
blizzard games aren't available in china anymore
You think your average Joe even knows a single piece of news about blizzard lols?
They dont know shit, they dont give a shit either.
What they do know is that they liked that game called Diablo 2, they found Diablo 3 ok and now there is a game called Diablo 4 being launched.
Which does remind me my friend is playing it alone lols. Cause I ofc just said no when he asked me if I was going to play it.