limgrave is a bonafide 10/10 experience, everything else ranges from 'alright' to 'rushing through the level/shitty open world as quickly as possible just to make it stop'
it only sucks if your gear sucks.
The only part I hate is the birds, because they do lot of damage are hard to hit and are faster than players so they keep attacking you.
Limgrave is a 10/10 on your first blind playthrough. In hindsight it's one of the shittiest areas because most of the content there is too easy and doesn't really teach you how to play the game optimally (abuse ashes of war and stack up damage as much as possible) and, most importantly, it's WAY too dense and makes the game blow its load early. You already begin to see a lot of repetition in Liurnia and Caelid. Past Altus it's just repetition.
>LARGE OPEN WORLD >made for the ps4
Lmao idk what you Black folk were expecting but the ps4 os 10 years old now. Wake the frick up, gaming has stagnated.
Ps4 cant handle too many enemies on acreen or conplex scripting. It also cant pre-generate large chunks of the map that its not in. This leaves systems like the put your sign down at multiple locations at once system....which can only reach 2-3 statues around your character.
They were also still patching in npc story content in weeks after release because THE GAME WAS NOT FINISHED YET. The best part is you Black folk thought the dlc would save you but heres a fun fact; dlcs usually get started on 3 months before actual release.
I don't know what the frick your talking about shit actually ran decent even on base model PS4. It's funny how you guys try to weaponize "big empty world" but ignore your own argument when it doesn't help you.
almost all the top tier bosses are at the end
leyndell and farum azula , and volcano manor are very good
i don't know why people pretend the mid and end game is lacking
>what are you doing are you in this thread
Talking about Souls games. Nintendo lives in your head rent free.
9 months ago
Anonymous
why talk about something you have no idea about, dumb tendie?
i mean, who confuses DS3 with ER apart from someone that hasn't played either?
9 months ago
Anonymous
>why talk about something
I very much understand how action works. >tendie
Ocarina of Time is one of the worst games ever made. >who confuses DS3 with ER
What are you even babbling about. Not once was this stated or implied, take your meds.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>What are you even babbling about. Not once was this stated or implied, take your meds.
this post's filename
Soulsgays, or rather Dark Souls 1 gays have created and drank a rather weird Kool-Aid of Souls PvP being a super honoraburu hardcore PvP experience and the real meat of the games despite being a simple gimmick that was originally made to let people ruin another player's day as a joke.
They have no interest in actual competition, let alone good competitive game, they are simply believing their own lies.
I know this is a joke post, but there are thousands of horrifically fragile homosexuals who consider losing 5 minutes of progress as "their day ruined".
I guess when the normal enemies pose a statistically negligible threat (when co-oping in a party of 3), having a serious enemy put in your game is a huge upset.
Assuming by early game you mean Limgrave and Weeping Peninsula, there's still plenty of fun to be had
I have never done souls pvp and have only played mortal kombat with IRL friends but even I can see there's a mountain of difference between the two. I think For Honor would be a more apt comparison to souls pvp. However, the fact that you post this in every single Elden Ring thread tips me off to the possibility that you're just a moronic Black person.
They're only interested in the idea of various knights and wizards beating the shit out of each other. For Honor and Soulcalibur are the closest you'll get.
Caelid is great. Never understood though why Dragonbarrow is scaled for the late game when it's right next to Caelid and you mostly fight the same enemies but with 3x the damage and health
Either an oversight or they intended for each area to have a second “endgame” section. Mt. Gelmir was probably meant to be harder, that mountain in Liurnia thats part of Rannis quest has harder enemies, maybe even Weeping Peninsula was meant to be harder.
Because you get the second medallion half there (assumedly the "intended" route to Altus?), and it makes for a scary, stealthy adventure through there to Faroth.
But it's not hard to find the "hidden" tunnel up through the ruins, at least for anyone with any spatial awareness.
>No story >Barren open world >No challenge >Dualwielding makes the game even more trivial >Input reading >Magic is overpowered >No mimics >Just summon ashes to win, bro! >Bosses are easier to stagger now, meaning the game is even more casual friendly >Most weapon abilities trivialize the game >Like 75% of the game is optional >No solo invasions >No covenants, meaning that PvP has no point >4 endings are the same (kek) >Teleports (WHAT THE FRICK WERE THEY THINKING?????) >Intro is a powerpoint slideshow >"Altering costumes" system is the dumbest idea ever >Fast travel >They changed Malenia's white VA to some Black person for woke points (OH NO NO) >All big bosses are garbage >Cuck shit >Feminist shit >Simp shit >Furry shit >troony shit >Gay shit >Pedophile shit >You have to simp for a woman in order to access some of the game's content (lmao) >Paid DLC >Final boss is a troony and a giant fish instead of kino old man battle like in literally all previous games >Skyrim dungeons (that have no rewards) >Boss reuse >Asset reuse >Worst camera ever
Is Elden Ring the worst game of all time?
Yeah but he's like super autistic, more annoying than a normal fromdrone
He literally spends all day on Ganker looking for Soulsborne threads, then every time someone says something even remotely bad he will start claiming it's a someday or a discord raid and start spamming screenshots of random discord posts from 2021 that 'prove' him correct
Its like him and the webm spammer who constantly spams unrelated webms of him beating bosses in response to anything
the "shazam" schizo is a german troony, lmao! he got really defensive when I asked him why he's playing as a girl in one of his screenshot spamming sessions and now always makes sure to wear a helmet. he of course deflected it as "I-I don't want to look at a dude's ass the entire game!" which is a traditional troony cope/deflection tactic.
I've played every dark souls game including demons souls. Elden ring is too hard. Not hard enough to beat, but hard enough to make me feel like I'm wasting my time playing it. The only reason I haven't stopped playing is because I want to be able to say it sucked and have the skill to back it up.
With that being said here are my thoughts on why the game is not as good and the series praked at dark souls 3.
I think the gameplay of the souls series does not do well with more complex boss/enemy movements. While your character has a light and heavy attack, a charge attack and jump attack as well as parry and riposte, not only do the enemies you face have almost all these moves they have moves that they combo into each other. If you keep on hitting r1 it's largely the same speed for each attack. Bosses not only do not fight this way but are much more agile than you. This was true of the previous games but it feels especially fricked in this game. I eventually swallowed my pride and just killed that dragon that gives you 50k xp per kill over and over again. I'm not going to buy armoured core 6 as a result
I feel bad my money has directly led to elden ring, a shit game.
My patience for bullshit in games has gone and elden ring has a lot of bullshit. If the game came out like 2 years earlier I would've beaten malenia legit, but I don't care anymore so I cheesed her
I'm in the same boat. I was a teenager when I started playing the souls games. I think that contributed to me looking past its flaws and appreciating them for what they tried to do. I can't do that with elden ring unfortunately.
Did you suffer some form of braindamage between playing DeS, DS1, 2 and Elden Ring? Because DS1 and Demon's Souls in particular are objectively the easiest Fromsoft games. There is no room for arguing, the bosses in those early Souls games simply do not possess the attack patterns or mechanical complexity to challenge anyone who is also capable of beating Elden Ring, with or without overleveling and using summons.
>Because DS1 and Demon's Souls in particular are objectively the easiest Fromsoft games
And also the best.
What a strange coincidence that as the focus shifted from "make a good, fun game" to "make a le heckin hard game for le reddit updoots" the quality, replayability, and general enjoyment of the games plummeted from "innovative classics" to "barely playable goyslop".
>boss winds up attack >this is my attack timing! >it actually works because the attack was just a delayed hit to bait you into rolling, not a normal attack >the only way you can know this is if you've seen it
Elden Ring is so memorization heavy it's kinda funny if you watch someone who knows the moves play
It's actually extremely annoying how much of a blank slate these games are in terms of difficulty. A lot of people just breeze through them then you have those that find it hard. Everyone might as well be playing an entirely different game.
it's because it depends on the definition of hard. if by hard you mean "this boss takes a lot of tries", then generally speaking later from entries are objectively harder than previous ones.
If by hard you mean the difficulty of the level design, the first three games are unmatched.
Elden Ring introduced the wildcard of spirit summons, unbalanced weapons/tools and non-scaling open world which means everyone is going to have a different experience on top of that. It's the worst game to discuss the difficulty of.
>Elden ring is too hard. Not hard enough to beat, but hard enough to make me feel like I'm wasting my time playing it.
That's because you're playing it like a souls game. Bosses are specifically designed to frick with DS3 rollspamming. You have to attack back and break their flow
I don't think there exists any game in the Fromsoft catalogue with a more consistent quality from start to finish. Usually most Fromsoft games drastically fall off in quality in the last half of the game, but Elden Ring has some of its absolute peak content late game, like Leyndell and Farum Azula. The only misstep this game has are the consecrated snowfields, which is an optional endgame area. Everything else ranges from 8/10 to 10/10.
Elden Ring is as long as you want it to be. You can beat it comfortably in 10-20 hours or in 100 hours+. Also if you are afraid of a challenge, then obviously Elden Ring and other Fromsoft games aren't really for you.
the gameplay in ER is the best the action RPG genre has to offer. The only alternatives are other Fromsoft games, which all share the same core gameplay loop, with the exception of Sekiro.
They are hard. Millennial struggle to use a camera in 3d games so don't talk to me like your generation isn't infinitely worse at videogames than us. You may have grown up with them but so did we, and more of a variety of them too. Cry to reddit about it gay
If it's like a rhythm game, it's too easy but if it breaks up the rhythm, you will whine about it being too hard and unfair. I distinctly remember that of the main complaint people had about in ER was that many bosses have delayed attack patterns and input reading, that is specifically designed to disturb the rhythm of the fight, so you can't just memorize the timing anymore like you used to in previous games.
>defending input reading
End it all now. This is never fun. >Whining about breaking up rhythm of bosses
Maybe morons do, it's still the same copypasted engine from Dark souls or even demon's souls before it. Granted, ER isn't as janky and doesn't feel as rushed as DaS or DeS, but it's the same game in a new setting.
>so you can't just memorize the timing anymore like you used to in previous games.
are you brain damaged?
You HAVE to memorize the timings because they're unintuitive. If they were intuitive, you wouldn't need to memorize them.
You've got it all backwards.
>many bosses have delayed attack patterns and input reading, that is specifically designed to disturb the rhythm of the fight, so you can't just memorize the timing anymore like you used to in previous games.
You got it backwards buddy, the "lol gotcha" timings are what forces you to trial and error and memorize the moves. In previous souls games I beat a lot of bosses first try simply via playing conservatively and intuitively dodging their attacks. I preferred that gameplay a LOT.
Elden Ring is consistently half-baked yes. It doesn’t hit highs like other games do. I blame the open world. Stormveil, Leyndell and Haligtree come off as places you’re expected to enjoy rather than actually being enjoyable
>Is that true?
Absolutely not. Elden Ring is a joy to experience for the first time.
For me personally it started to drag towards the end, but up until then it was a great gaming experience
>10/10
Raya Lucaria was the biggest let down in the game. After the size of Stormveil I expected a good sized place to explore but Hogwarts was just a couple of corridors with an optional roof hopping area.
Really let me down when they showed that the seat of all magical knowledge was just a glorified machine gun nest with only one magical trap.
Yeah, idk why more people don't hate the academy. You can get through it in 10 minutes and two really lame boss fights. It's big LOOKING and pretty, but so what? Do Elden Ring dick riders only care about taking screenshots, or somethong?
The optional area does kind of lift it up a lot though. There's a lot of really cool interconnectivity there. Just because it's boring to speedrun doesn't make it bad. It's still really fun to 100% it. In terms of the series in general it's still on the higher end of quality.
>Raya Lucaria was the biggest let down in the game. After the size of Stormveil I expected a good sized place to explore but Hogwarts was just a couple of corridors with an optional roof hopping area. >Really let me down when they showed that the seat of all magical knowledge was just a glorified machine gun nest with only one magical trap.
It really is a let down. The optional segment has some of the most interesting stuff, but it's dampened a bit by being some no co-op zone completely vestigial to the rest of the area.
I have a suspicion Carian Study Hall was originally meant to be part of the academy proper. It would bring the area up to par with the rest of the main dungeons.
>I have a suspicion Carian Study Hall was originally meant to be part of the academy proper. It would bring the area up to par with the rest of the main dungeons.
There's an altar with an hourglass just like the study hall right at the beginning of Raya Lucaria so you might be right. It would've definitely made up for the small size of the academy if had upside down content as well
It's the same all the way through which is its main problem.
The later areas are all mostly the same shit as Limgrave, only that the wolves, rats, golems, land octopi, bats and whatnot now have vastly increased stats and MAYBE an attack more. Nothing else really evolves gameplay-wise and you go through the same stuff and loops again and again.
huh? All areas in Elden Ring are vastly different. Obviously some enemies have to repeat, but Elden Ring has more enemy variety than any other action RPG ever made. I think Limgrave alone has something like 20 times more enemies and bosses than all of BotW and ToTK combined.
>All areas in Elden Ring are vastly different
lol >has more enemy variety than any other action RPG ever made
It has less than both KH and Tales and they are garbage in the first place.
The mountain tops of the giants and the later tombs and catacombs (including the leyndel sewers) will make you question if the game is even good at all because its beyond draggin by that point but it picks up with farum azula thankfully
if they make the DLC accessible with some of it during limgrave and the rest after doing raya lucaria, and the DLC adds so much shit you can really build a very unique character, then it will fix everything else due to it being fun to play at that point. the later stuff sucks cuz you play the exact same after the first 20 hours and you realize (holy frick im going to continue doing this shit for another 50).
No, it's really just the Mountains and I'd say also the Haligtree at the very end that are bad. Limgrave, Caelid, Liurnia, Mt Gelmir and Altus are all good at worst.
The catacombs and caves have the inverse issue where they don't get even remotely interesting until Gelmir and Altus and by then people have mostly stopped bothering with them because they're expecting them to be the same two rooms with four enemies and a shit boss that they are in Limgrave, Caelid and Liurnia.
>We need to bring back giving games shit for flawed game mechanics
You can't. The overall gamer IQ has dropped precipitously as companies appeal to a wider market. Those of us who remember gaming back in the 90s will tell you gitgud-ism was basically unheard of, even really up to about 2010 it was never a thing, in fact it was popular to shit on games for bad design, and being able to call out shitty design was considered a respectable thing.
With the drop in IQ comes a drop in taste, and willingness to shill for products. It's the exact same as Marvel movies, low-IQ morons, who are now the primary market, will continue to gobble up the slop despite it being terrible, thus the company has no incentive to actually improve the product when they can just market it harder and sell it to tasteless idiots.
"Git gud" is unironically a low-IQ criticism done exclusively by low-IQ people who have no argument or defense as to why a mechanic is bad, or why a bug exists, and are literally too dumb to understand and differentiate basic design concepts and definitions; you could ask them how they would feel if they did not eat breakfast that morning and they wont understand the question.
no, though it has some bad area's.
if the dlc has a random large dungeon system (like chalice dungeons) with random talismans it'll redeem anything bad it did.
Is there a mod that deletes all the tacked on normalgay bait open world garbage and let's you play the parts of the game the devs actually spend time on?
This is such a low IQ take. There's nothing fundamentally different about "open world design" that makes it inherently bad. There can be good open world areas and bad ones, just like there can be good and bad smaller areas. The only difference is scale. There are areas in the older Dark Souls games that have weaker design than some of the open world parts of ER.
Open world games are inherently bad as in order to design a world that is large and connected you compromise the games quality. Think about this...how long did it take for the grand theft auto games to have decent shooting in them?...I rest my case. Frick open worlds.
No, the minute-per-minute gameplay of ER is higher quality.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Elden ring is what happens when you take dark souls 3, slap an open world on top of it and forget to balance the game because shockingly, when you make the games world open the balancing that linear design allows for gets fricked with and you're left with abrupt spikes in difficulty even the older games would call harsh.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Okay, but disregarding the balancing (which can be mitigated with player-imposed restrictions on leveling), the actual moment to moment gameplay of ER is still just objectively better than DS3. The stuff that actually matters like the weapon/skill variety, the weapon balance and viability of each build style, the tightness of the controls and hitboxes and enemy behavior... All of that is significantly improved over previous Souls games. The fact that the balancing issue can be so easily mitigated by just switching to a different build to make things harder or easier because every build is so fun to use is an amazing achievement.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>viability of each build style
One thing that annoys the frick out of me about this game is that you can make your weapons scale with whatever the frick you want. What is the point of a dex build when you get the two-handed bonus from strength and you can make any weapon a strength weapon? All of the builds feel less unique because you can just do whatever on any build when it comes to weapons. I also think weapon arts/skills/ashes of war/whatever the frick you call them are dumb as frick for the same reason. Weapons have far less personality when you can just attach whatever attack you want to them. This is the same flaw that elder scrolls has. It doesn’t feel like an RPG because you can just pick up and use anything pretty much regardless of your build.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>just objectively better than DS3
It literally is just DaS3 with tweaks.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>the tightness of the controls
ER still has that awful input lag for rolls which is inexcusable after all these years. That alone should prevent anyone with some degree of intellectual honesty and taste to rate it a 10/10
Which makes me assume most people who gave it such a score are moronic
Limgrave, Liurnia, Caelid, and Siofra are dope. Great design, good challenge, interesting and rewarding to explore. Nokron, Nokstella, Altus, and the Capital are all cool, but needlessly difficult in some sections. Everything else is either poorly designed or poorly balanced making them a slog to get through. Consecrated Snowfield and the Haligtree, especially, are absolute dogshit.
too bad they all look the same (which is dull as hell) and all have the same "find thing you need to pull to open the door that that takes you to recycled boss #124". I don't care if I had to take a right instead of the left at that point.
I started this game because it was apparently an open world done right, not like the rest >Yep cave >Yep cave v2 >Yep settlement >Yep cave under settlement >Yep minibosses recycled over and over >Music is mostly annoying ambience that loops over and over >Oh but there's a couple of actual dungeons with actual handcrafted content! To the point they're called legacy dungeons by the community! And the music is actual music here!
It's the fricking same as other open worlds, it's just a detriment. This game shouldn't have been open world
And the legacy dungeons in ER are significantly better than any areas in previous Souls games. How is it ruined by being open world when it contains the best areas in the series?
Leyndell has a whole 3-tier system to it's level design it's actually genius. The grungy zombie area at the bottom, the pristine golden city on the main level, and then you have the towers/walls and tree branch paths at the top leading to the Erdtree. Not to mention it has the sewers, which eventually seemlessly connects to one of the underground areas in a way that nobody expected. Leyndell is master class. Only some areas in DS1 even come close to it.
yeah leyndell is cool, but what interesting gameplay scenarios does it offer? Jumping on roofs is neat but it's essentially just to grab a few items and get a small advantage on some encounters. That's the extent of the mechanical novelty of the level. Which is huge. Everything else feels identical to what you've been doing for the previous 50 hours.
I never finished the game because honestly just got bored of it, but I can sort of agree with this point because stormveil castle might be the best level in any souls game. The academy or whatever was pretty boring though. Stopped playing after I reached caelid
It's a weird experience because all of the proper area dungeons are great and feel like regular DaS. The problem is, they're all short as shit. Like Stormveil, Raya Lucaria, etc. are designed well but they're like 10% of the game. The rest are scattered mini dungeons (with many having regular enemies with boss HP), villages/ruins/gaols and other shit haphazardly placed around an empty open world.
The open world parts aren't that much different from the weaker areas in previous Souls games that were basically just a straight line with some side paths. The only difference is ER's weaker areas are much wider straight lines with much wider side paths. But you also have Torrent so the travel distance is significantly mitigated.
But you're not spending 90% of the time in them. You're spending the majority of the time in the areas where you can't use torrent. At least you should be, unless you're one of those autists that has to collectathon everything in open world games.
I really don't mind the open world, honestly. For the most part it's too big and without much to do than explore the occasional ruins or a camp here and there, but it is a good way to clean the palate and change the pace after a long and grueling legacy dungeon
Souls PvP is soo popular because it's unique, especially the asymetric aspects of invasions with 3 COOPers on one side and the invader+PvE on the other.
And shit like world boss invasions are hilarious.
Yes
LIMGRAVE/WEEPING PENINSULA is the best part of the game, they made it so that people get a nice first impression, either from playing or from reading/watching a review
CAELID is also good, but is just to create hype for the endgame >le noob get ONK by mobs >wow can't wait to come here in the future, this game is heckerino hard
Either way, the game should have been shorter or the map more dense
>i dont want to learn the new mechanics >i dont want to learn how to jump and duck enemy attacks to gain initiative >i dont want to learn when to guard counter >i dont want to block with my weapon >i dont want to use consumables >i dont want to participate in online play to get rune arcs to activate powerful great rune buffs >i dont want to level vigor >i dont want to play aggressive to take advantage of the stance break system >i dont want to use charged R2s in big enough openings >i dont want to try different weapon arts >i just want to press the roll and R1 buttons with the same weapon for the entire game >wtf this boss is so tedious! the game is the problem, not me
You can just go for Charge Attacks and Jump Attacks. It only deals significant damage while 2Hing a weapon. meaning you have to take damage to use it and it's still slow.
And it will probably miss because it's super slow and has a relatively small hitbox for how long it takes you to do it
what's your point? that this janky system somehow makes the shitty game fun?
9 months ago
Anonymous
Wrong.
Git gud.
9 months ago
Anonymous
I accept your concession again
9 months ago
Anonymous
Collosals are some of the the longest weapons in the game, only the pike has more range.
Try actually playing the game, greatshield + bonk detroys bosses.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>DUH DE MOVE NO CAN MISS LARGE WEAPUN
try playing the game in any area that's not a perfectly flat plane and tell me guard counters are good
also stop posting two year old shill webms
9 months ago
Anonymous
>guard counters bad even though they completely shut down and trivialize beast clergyman aka one of the fastest spammiest bosses in the game as proven here
>Guard counters suck so much
No.
You just keep getting BTFO.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>can't even respond
that's what I thought
I accept your concession again
9 months ago
Anonymous
If you see a post with no capitalization and reddit spacing don't respond except to call him a troon. Eventually after proving him wrong too many times he'll sperg out and repeat his posts until he comes back with a new argument
9 months ago
Anonymous
unironically a skill issue
9 months ago
Anonymous
do you have anything else other than these two year old shill webms
You have to wait for an enemy attack to use it in the first place.
9 months ago
Anonymous
And? ER enemies are agressive so that's not a problem.
You can literally guard counter every single enemy like the Knights in Lyndel and they drop down in 2-3 counters from an small axe.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>ER enemies are aggressive
They are also bumbling morons. You still have to wait for an attack and take a hit for it which just gets killed at low HP%
>innate hyperarmor
I'm 99% sure they do on heavy weapons, no different from normal attacks. And if it gives HA, you now get damage reduction with it.
They upped reduction values when blocking with large 2H weapons recently, so you can even counter like that.
>No armor & a light weapon gives you no hyperarmor
Wow!
HA in ER depends on your weapon (like 3) and adds virtual poise to your passive value (also like 3, I think).
Early game is the best because it's the only part of the game where you can find a new weapon and just use it, instead of having to painstakingly grind for upgrade mats.
You still need the runes to buy the stones and if you don't like the weapon or if it's worse than what you've had then you've 100% wasted your time & ressources.
The upgrade system is just stupid, they've already got stats that gatekeep weapons and that can make weapon damage scale with it. I shouldn't be doing more damage with a dinged out wood club than with a god slaying sword just because the latter is unupgraded.
Sure you can grind efficiently, but it's not very fun or meaningful. I don't want to spend an hour doing the same thing over and over just so I can know whether or not some weapon is going to be useful to me. It's just padding the game's length.
Plus I could just use the runes for leveling or upgrading the weapon I'm already using. The system just goes completely against exploring the game's possibilities, because spending runes on what you're already using will almost always yield better results.
Sorceries/Incantations/Ashes of War are a lot better in that regards, because as long as you have the right stats you can just use them.
>I don't want to spend an hour doing the same thing over and over just so I can know whether or not some weapon is going to be useful to me.
Unless you want to upgrade 20+ weapons, you only need to clear a bunch of Lyndell Knights once in 5 minutes and that gives enough souls for 12 of each stone you can buy.
>Everything past the early game is trash >Is that true?
No, but there is a lot of filler trash in it, and it definitely wears out its welcome by the end of the game.
It's a solid 7/10, with 9/10 parts and 5/10 parts.
limgrave is a bonafide 10/10 experience, everything else ranges from 'alright' to 'rushing through the level/shitty open world as quickly as possible just to make it stop'
>everything else ranges from 'alright' to 'rushing through the level/shitty open world as quickly as possible just to make it stop
filtered
Nah, this part kind of sucks. Leyndell is the best part of the game though.
it only sucks if your gear sucks.
The only part I hate is the birds, because they do lot of damage are hard to hit and are faster than players so they keep attacking you.
Leyndell is fantastic, one of the best areas in Fro.'s catalogue.
True, it is almost overwhelming when hou reach on the walls of Leyndell looking at the base of the Erdtree. They really outdid themselves there.
You're legitimately insane.
Limgrave is not even close to a 10/10, the rest is just so bad that you think it's good. It's the cheerleader effect
Limgrave is a 10/10 on your first blind playthrough. In hindsight it's one of the shittiest areas because most of the content there is too easy and doesn't really teach you how to play the game optimally (abuse ashes of war and stack up damage as much as possible) and, most importantly, it's WAY too dense and makes the game blow its load early. You already begin to see a lot of repetition in Liurnia and Caelid. Past Altus it's just repetition.
If you are a zoomer that can't play the same game for more than 30 hours because he is used to devs scamming them, then yes.
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the whole game is absolute trash, they hadn't the slightest idea what do do for an open world and did it anyway
>LARGE OPEN WORLD
>made for the ps4
Lmao idk what you Black folk were expecting but the ps4 os 10 years old now. Wake the frick up, gaming has stagnated.
What gameplay is lost from this being made for ps4?
Ps4 cant handle too many enemies on acreen or conplex scripting. It also cant pre-generate large chunks of the map that its not in. This leaves systems like the put your sign down at multiple locations at once system....which can only reach 2-3 statues around your character.
They were also still patching in npc story content in weeks after release because THE GAME WAS NOT FINISHED YET. The best part is you Black folk thought the dlc would save you but heres a fun fact; dlcs usually get started on 3 months before actual release.
>the dlc would save you
save us from what?
I don't know what the frick your talking about shit actually ran decent even on base model PS4. It's funny how you guys try to weaponize "big empty world" but ignore your own argument when it doesn't help you.
almost all the top tier bosses are at the end
leyndell and farum azula , and volcano manor are very good
i don't know why people pretend the mid and end game is lacking
Elden mid...worst From game ever...
This you?
>6 hits and a backstab
>Black person is still alive
God, even the pvp is dogshit since everyone just stacks hp
Souls PvP is so frickin dogshit lmao. Idk how the 27 people that play it find it enjoyable, maybe they don't.
>This is the PvP 3tards refuse to move on from
tendies are so moronic
>bringing up Nintendo out of nowhere
Mindbroken.
what are you doing are you in this thread, then?
way to prove me right, dumb tendietroon
>what are you doing are you in this thread
Talking about Souls games. Nintendo lives in your head rent free.
why talk about something you have no idea about, dumb tendie?
i mean, who confuses DS3 with ER apart from someone that hasn't played either?
>why talk about something
I very much understand how action works.
>tendie
Ocarina of Time is one of the worst games ever made.
>who confuses DS3 with ER
What are you even babbling about. Not once was this stated or implied, take your meds.
>What are you even babbling about. Not once was this stated or implied, take your meds.
this post's filename
I just dont get why elden ring PvP gays dont play a fighting game
The experience is leagues better in every measurable facet.
They suck at them.
Because they aren't comparable genres at all. Where does this meme come from?
You might as well lambast RTS players for not playing grand strategies.
>they aren't comparable genres at all.
Souls is the only single-player J-Action game with PvP. And Action games are inspired by Fighters.
it has been said time and time again
pvpgays want an unfair fight against someone who doesn't fight back
Sounds boring.
Soulsgays, or rather Dark Souls 1 gays have created and drank a rather weird Kool-Aid of Souls PvP being a super honoraburu hardcore PvP experience and the real meat of the games despite being a simple gimmick that was originally made to let people ruin another player's day as a joke.
They have no interest in actual competition, let alone good competitive game, they are simply believing their own lies.
> ruin another player's day as a joke.
I wish more games like this existed, extremely fun. Vanilla WoW scratched this itch also
I know this is a joke post, but there are thousands of horrifically fragile homosexuals who consider losing 5 minutes of progress as "their day ruined".
I guess when the normal enemies pose a statistically negligible threat (when co-oping in a party of 3), having a serious enemy put in your game is a huge upset.
Duels are invasions are completely different things though.
Fighting games don't let you 3v1 opponents in a huge level full of PvE monsters.
Assuming by early game you mean Limgrave and Weeping Peninsula, there's still plenty of fun to be had
I have never done souls pvp and have only played mortal kombat with IRL friends but even I can see there's a mountain of difference between the two. I think For Honor would be a more apt comparison to souls pvp. However, the fact that you post this in every single Elden Ring thread tips me off to the possibility that you're just a moronic Black person.
Fighting games require pressing more buttons than R1 and O
Try playing ER with only R1 and circle, it's literally a chalenge run, LMAO.
Especially in PvP where R1R1 is not a true combo.
They're only interested in the idea of various knights and wizards beating the shit out of each other. For Honor and Soulcalibur are the closest you'll get.
No. The early game is trash too
Not at all.
Best areas like Lyndel, Vulcano Manor, Nokstella, Farum Azula, Deeproots, Haligtree are mid to late game.
Anyone that says the game peaks at Limgrave is a garbage player that got nuked the moment they get out of the "not-tutorial" area.
Caelid is great. Never understood though why Dragonbarrow is scaled for the late game when it's right next to Caelid and you mostly fight the same enemies but with 3x the damage and health
Either an oversight or they intended for each area to have a second “endgame” section. Mt. Gelmir was probably meant to be harder, that mountain in Liurnia thats part of Rannis quest has harder enemies, maybe even Weeping Peninsula was meant to be harder.
Because you get the second medallion half there (assumedly the "intended" route to Altus?), and it makes for a scary, stealthy adventure through there to Faroth.
But it's not hard to find the "hidden" tunnel up through the ruins, at least for anyone with any spatial awareness.
Yep.
Early game is trash too.
>No story
>Barren open world
>No challenge
>Dualwielding makes the game even more trivial
>Input reading
>Magic is overpowered
>No mimics
>Just summon ashes to win, bro!
>Bosses are easier to stagger now, meaning the game is even more casual friendly
>Most weapon abilities trivialize the game
>Like 75% of the game is optional
>No solo invasions
>No covenants, meaning that PvP has no point
>4 endings are the same (kek)
>Teleports (WHAT THE FRICK WERE THEY THINKING?????)
>Intro is a powerpoint slideshow
>"Altering costumes" system is the dumbest idea ever
>Fast travel
>They changed Malenia's white VA to some Black person for woke points (OH NO NO)
>All big bosses are garbage
>Cuck shit
>Feminist shit
>Simp shit
>Furry shit
>troony shit
>Gay shit
>Pedophile shit
>You have to simp for a woman in order to access some of the game's content (lmao)
>Paid DLC
>Final boss is a troony and a giant fish instead of kino old man battle like in literally all previous games
>Skyrim dungeons (that have no rewards)
>Boss reuse
>Asset reuse
>Worst camera ever
Is Elden Ring the worst game of all time?
>no challenge
I disagree. It's the hardest game in the souls series besides sekiro
Cope. Taurus Demon from DS1 is harder than any boss in troony RIng.
You can't be fricking serious. Taurus demon is easier than 90% of the bosses in elden ring
... I'm trans btw, don't know if that matters.
Harder than Astel? You’re smoking crack.
>Climb up ladder
>Kill 3 hollows
>Plunge
>Climb up ladder
>Plunge
>YOU DEFEATED
Land of the giants is the only place I felt a sense of tedium
No
Limgrave sucks also
IP count didn't go up
I am
and I love ER
Do we have a name for this "every negative post about Elden Ring is one person" schizo moron yet? He shits up every thread.
It's like the fromsoft fanboy version of a tendie.
Yeah but he's like super autistic, more annoying than a normal fromdrone
He literally spends all day on Ganker looking for Soulsborne threads, then every time someone says something even remotely bad he will start claiming it's a someday or a discord raid and start spamming screenshots of random discord posts from 2021 that 'prove' him correct
Its like him and the webm spammer who constantly spams unrelated webms of him beating bosses in response to anything
Its like the Abbot and Costello of autism
Damn
the "shazam" schizo is a german troony, lmao! he got really defensive when I asked him why he's playing as a girl in one of his screenshot spamming sessions and now always makes sure to wear a helmet. he of course deflected it as "I-I don't want to look at a dude's ass the entire game!" which is a traditional troony cope/deflection tactic.
I've played every dark souls game including demons souls. Elden ring is too hard. Not hard enough to beat, but hard enough to make me feel like I'm wasting my time playing it. The only reason I haven't stopped playing is because I want to be able to say it sucked and have the skill to back it up.
With that being said here are my thoughts on why the game is not as good and the series praked at dark souls 3.
I think the gameplay of the souls series does not do well with more complex boss/enemy movements. While your character has a light and heavy attack, a charge attack and jump attack as well as parry and riposte, not only do the enemies you face have almost all these moves they have moves that they combo into each other. If you keep on hitting r1 it's largely the same speed for each attack. Bosses not only do not fight this way but are much more agile than you. This was true of the previous games but it feels especially fricked in this game. I eventually swallowed my pride and just killed that dragon that gives you 50k xp per kill over and over again. I'm not going to buy armoured core 6 as a result
I feel bad my money has directly led to elden ring, a shit game.
My patience for bullshit in games has gone and elden ring has a lot of bullshit. If the game came out like 2 years earlier I would've beaten malenia legit, but I don't care anymore so I cheesed her
I'm in the same boat. I was a teenager when I started playing the souls games. I think that contributed to me looking past its flaws and appreciating them for what they tried to do. I can't do that with elden ring unfortunately.
skill issue detected
strange. For me it was by far the easiest game in the series
Did you suffer some form of braindamage between playing DeS, DS1, 2 and Elden Ring? Because DS1 and Demon's Souls in particular are objectively the easiest Fromsoft games. There is no room for arguing, the bosses in those early Souls games simply do not possess the attack patterns or mechanical complexity to challenge anyone who is also capable of beating Elden Ring, with or without overleveling and using summons.
nta but I found 2 was easier than 1
>Because DS1 and Demon's Souls in particular are objectively the easiest Fromsoft games
And also the best.
What a strange coincidence that as the focus shifted from "make a good, fun game" to "make a le heckin hard game for le reddit updoots" the quality, replayability, and general enjoyment of the games plummeted from "innovative classics" to "barely playable goyslop".
Yes I beat that boss. Your point?
Nothing wrong with this, should have used throwing knives. 100% the player's fault.
>boss winds up attack
>this is my attack timing!
>it actually works because the attack was just a delayed hit to bait you into rolling, not a normal attack
>the only way you can know this is if you've seen it
Elden Ring is so memorization heavy it's kinda funny if you watch someone who knows the moves play
It's actually extremely annoying how much of a blank slate these games are in terms of difficulty. A lot of people just breeze through them then you have those that find it hard. Everyone might as well be playing an entirely different game.
it's because it depends on the definition of hard. if by hard you mean "this boss takes a lot of tries", then generally speaking later from entries are objectively harder than previous ones.
If by hard you mean the difficulty of the level design, the first three games are unmatched.
Elden Ring introduced the wildcard of spirit summons, unbalanced weapons/tools and non-scaling open world which means everyone is going to have a different experience on top of that. It's the worst game to discuss the difficulty of.
>Elden ring is too hard. Not hard enough to beat, but hard enough to make me feel like I'm wasting my time playing it.
That's because you're playing it like a souls game. Bosses are specifically designed to frick with DS3 rollspamming. You have to attack back and break their flow
No, the whole game is great, and the endgame dungeons and bosses are 100% the best ones
have a nice day
why are you so upset
Get raped gay. Frick your gay opinion.
His opinion is based, Elden Ring is amazing. You’re gay though.
I'm not a tyranny bro
No, you're just a make b***h.
Make b***h? How about you make me a big mac you government subsidised moron.
No, everything is 10/10 except snowfield. Snowfield was a nothing burger, like 7/10.
I don't think there exists any game in the Fromsoft catalogue with a more consistent quality from start to finish. Usually most Fromsoft games drastically fall off in quality in the last half of the game, but Elden Ring has some of its absolute peak content late game, like Leyndell and Farum Azula. The only misstep this game has are the consecrated snowfields, which is an optional endgame area. Everything else ranges from 8/10 to 10/10.
What the frick are you talking about. Elden ring feels like how old people frick. Gross, long and challenging.
Elden Ring is as long as you want it to be. You can beat it comfortably in 10-20 hours or in 100 hours+. Also if you are afraid of a challenge, then obviously Elden Ring and other Fromsoft games aren't really for you.
The gameplay is not good enough to justify the challenge.
the gameplay in ER is the best the action RPG genre has to offer. The only alternatives are other Fromsoft games, which all share the same core gameplay loop, with the exception of Sekiro.
>the gameplay in ER is the best the action RPG genre has to offer
The ultimate reddit zoomer post
>Afraid of challenge
>Fromsoft games
They're basically rhythm games. Zoomers think they're hard because they're used to subway surfers and angry birds
They are hard. Millennial struggle to use a camera in 3d games so don't talk to me like your generation isn't infinitely worse at videogames than us. You may have grown up with them but so did we, and more of a variety of them too. Cry to reddit about it gay
>us
like fricking clockwork.
>
Like clockwork. Get an argument and come back when you find it so you can embarrassing yourself further
>They're basically rhythm games
so you agree they are hard
If it's like a rhythm game, it's too easy but if it breaks up the rhythm, you will whine about it being too hard and unfair. I distinctly remember that of the main complaint people had about in ER was that many bosses have delayed attack patterns and input reading, that is specifically designed to disturb the rhythm of the fight, so you can't just memorize the timing anymore like you used to in previous games.
>defending input reading
End it all now. This is never fun.
>Whining about breaking up rhythm of bosses
Maybe morons do, it's still the same copypasted engine from Dark souls or even demon's souls before it. Granted, ER isn't as janky and doesn't feel as rushed as DaS or DeS, but it's the same game in a new setting.
>so you can't just memorize the timing anymore like you used to in previous games.
are you brain damaged?
You HAVE to memorize the timings because they're unintuitive. If they were intuitive, you wouldn't need to memorize them.
You've got it all backwards.
>many bosses have delayed attack patterns and input reading, that is specifically designed to disturb the rhythm of the fight, so you can't just memorize the timing anymore like you used to in previous games.
You got it backwards buddy, the "lol gotcha" timings are what forces you to trial and error and memorize the moves. In previous souls games I beat a lot of bosses first try simply via playing conservatively and intuitively dodging their attacks. I preferred that gameplay a LOT.
>doesn’t make love for hours
You live a sad life
Elden Ring is consistently half-baked yes. It doesn’t hit highs like other games do. I blame the open world. Stormveil, Leyndell and Haligtree come off as places you’re expected to enjoy rather than actually being enjoyable
>Is that true?
Absolutely not. Elden Ring is a joy to experience for the first time.
For me personally it started to drag towards the end, but up until then it was a great gaming experience
Trash is a bit harsh, but Limgrave is the best area and Stormveil is the best legacy dungeon.
bad taste
>limgrave
9/10
>stormveil
9/10
>weeping peninsula
7/10
>liurnia
10/10
>academy
10/10
>caelid
8/10
>altus plateau
8/10
>leyndell
10/10
>gelmit
8/10
>volcano manor
9/10
>main underworld (siofra/ainsel/nokstella/nokron)
10/10
>lake of rot
6/10
>sewers and deeprooth depths
8/10
>mountaintops
7/10
>consecrated snowfield
5/10
>haligtree and elphael
10/10
>farum azula
9/10
did i miss anything?
combining the sewers and the deeprooth depths is a sin
>10/10
>10/10
Dumbest take
>10/10
Raya Lucaria was the biggest let down in the game. After the size of Stormveil I expected a good sized place to explore but Hogwarts was just a couple of corridors with an optional roof hopping area.
Really let me down when they showed that the seat of all magical knowledge was just a glorified machine gun nest with only one magical trap.
and you could roll THROUGH the giant steel boulders
Yeah, idk why more people don't hate the academy. You can get through it in 10 minutes and two really lame boss fights. It's big LOOKING and pretty, but so what? Do Elden Ring dick riders only care about taking screenshots, or somethong?
>You can get through it in 10 minutes
You can also YOLO through Stormveil in five minutes by going through the front gate.
Stormveil has a lot of secret areas and paths you love to explore. Raya only has one optional rooftop section. Everything else is a straight line.
The optional area does kind of lift it up a lot though. There's a lot of really cool interconnectivity there. Just because it's boring to speedrun doesn't make it bad. It's still really fun to 100% it. In terms of the series in general it's still on the higher end of quality.
>Raya Lucaria was the biggest let down in the game. After the size of Stormveil I expected a good sized place to explore but Hogwarts was just a couple of corridors with an optional roof hopping area.
>Really let me down when they showed that the seat of all magical knowledge was just a glorified machine gun nest with only one magical trap.
Based on how it looked from afar I was expecting a magical Yharnam. Instead its barely 1/3 the size of Central Yharnam
It really is a let down. The optional segment has some of the most interesting stuff, but it's dampened a bit by being some no co-op zone completely vestigial to the rest of the area.
I have a suspicion Carian Study Hall was originally meant to be part of the academy proper. It would bring the area up to par with the rest of the main dungeons.
>I have a suspicion Carian Study Hall was originally meant to be part of the academy proper. It would bring the area up to par with the rest of the main dungeons.
There's an altar with an hourglass just like the study hall right at the beginning of Raya Lucaria so you might be right. It would've definitely made up for the small size of the academy if had upside down content as well
At least it was fun watching that Carian Knight butthole get wrecked by the giant ball
It's the same all the way through which is its main problem.
The later areas are all mostly the same shit as Limgrave, only that the wolves, rats, golems, land octopi, bats and whatnot now have vastly increased stats and MAYBE an attack more. Nothing else really evolves gameplay-wise and you go through the same stuff and loops again and again.
huh? All areas in Elden Ring are vastly different. Obviously some enemies have to repeat, but Elden Ring has more enemy variety than any other action RPG ever made. I think Limgrave alone has something like 20 times more enemies and bosses than all of BotW and ToTK combined.
>All areas in Elden Ring are vastly different
lol
>has more enemy variety than any other action RPG ever made
It has less than both KH and Tales and they are garbage in the first place.
The mountain tops of the giants and the later tombs and catacombs (including the leyndel sewers) will make you question if the game is even good at all because its beyond draggin by that point but it picks up with farum azula thankfully
if they make the DLC accessible with some of it during limgrave and the rest after doing raya lucaria, and the DLC adds so much shit you can really build a very unique character, then it will fix everything else due to it being fun to play at that point. the later stuff sucks cuz you play the exact same after the first 20 hours and you realize (holy frick im going to continue doing this shit for another 50).
if you want
No, it's really just the Mountains and I'd say also the Haligtree at the very end that are bad. Limgrave, Caelid, Liurnia, Mt Gelmir and Altus are all good at worst.
The catacombs and caves have the inverse issue where they don't get even remotely interesting until Gelmir and Altus and by then people have mostly stopped bothering with them because they're expecting them to be the same two rooms with four enemies and a shit boss that they are in Limgrave, Caelid and Liurnia.
No
the whole game is trash
Past capital I was praying every second for this shit to end, but it just dragged on and on.
>90's game has one thing bad about it
>say it sucks because of that thing
>no one bats an eye
>present day
>say game sucks due to one thing
>"what about all the things it does right? Also Ur wrong and bad at the game"
We need to bring back giving games shit for flawed game mechanics
There's no room for nuance anymore. either it's "10/10 GOTY" or "literally unplayable tortanic troonycore goyslop"
>We need to bring back giving games shit for flawed game mechanics
You can't. The overall gamer IQ has dropped precipitously as companies appeal to a wider market. Those of us who remember gaming back in the 90s will tell you gitgud-ism was basically unheard of, even really up to about 2010 it was never a thing, in fact it was popular to shit on games for bad design, and being able to call out shitty design was considered a respectable thing.
With the drop in IQ comes a drop in taste, and willingness to shill for products. It's the exact same as Marvel movies, low-IQ morons, who are now the primary market, will continue to gobble up the slop despite it being terrible, thus the company has no incentive to actually improve the product when they can just market it harder and sell it to tasteless idiots.
"Git gud" is unironically a low-IQ criticism done exclusively by low-IQ people who have no argument or defense as to why a mechanic is bad, or why a bug exists, and are literally too dumb to understand and differentiate basic design concepts and definitions; you could ask them how they would feel if they did not eat breakfast that morning and they wont understand the question.
If you don't like it you don't like it.
If you have played DS3 imagine that but just open world.
no, though it has some bad area's.
if the dlc has a random large dungeon system (like chalice dungeons) with random talismans it'll redeem anything bad it did.
Is there a mod that deletes all the tacked on normalgay bait open world garbage and let's you play the parts of the game the devs actually spend time on?
yeah
https://store.steampowered.com/app/570940/
Daggerfall and its consequences have been a disaster for videogames. Open world design in almost all instances subtracts from a game.
This is such a low IQ take. There's nothing fundamentally different about "open world design" that makes it inherently bad. There can be good open world areas and bad ones, just like there can be good and bad smaller areas. The only difference is scale. There are areas in the older Dark Souls games that have weaker design than some of the open world parts of ER.
Open world games are inherently bad as in order to design a world that is large and connected you compromise the games quality. Think about this...how long did it take for the grand theft auto games to have decent shooting in them?...I rest my case. Frick open worlds.
Elden Ring has higher quality gameplay than any other Souls game so that doesn't help your argument at all.
You're mistaking quantity with quality. There's more stuff sure.
No, the minute-per-minute gameplay of ER is higher quality.
Elden ring is what happens when you take dark souls 3, slap an open world on top of it and forget to balance the game because shockingly, when you make the games world open the balancing that linear design allows for gets fricked with and you're left with abrupt spikes in difficulty even the older games would call harsh.
Okay, but disregarding the balancing (which can be mitigated with player-imposed restrictions on leveling), the actual moment to moment gameplay of ER is still just objectively better than DS3. The stuff that actually matters like the weapon/skill variety, the weapon balance and viability of each build style, the tightness of the controls and hitboxes and enemy behavior... All of that is significantly improved over previous Souls games. The fact that the balancing issue can be so easily mitigated by just switching to a different build to make things harder or easier because every build is so fun to use is an amazing achievement.
>viability of each build style
One thing that annoys the frick out of me about this game is that you can make your weapons scale with whatever the frick you want. What is the point of a dex build when you get the two-handed bonus from strength and you can make any weapon a strength weapon? All of the builds feel less unique because you can just do whatever on any build when it comes to weapons. I also think weapon arts/skills/ashes of war/whatever the frick you call them are dumb as frick for the same reason. Weapons have far less personality when you can just attach whatever attack you want to them. This is the same flaw that elder scrolls has. It doesn’t feel like an RPG because you can just pick up and use anything pretty much regardless of your build.
>just objectively better than DS3
It literally is just DaS3 with tweaks.
>the tightness of the controls
ER still has that awful input lag for rolls which is inexcusable after all these years. That alone should prevent anyone with some degree of intellectual honesty and taste to rate it a 10/10
Which makes me assume most people who gave it such a score are moronic
>Elden Ring has higher quality gameplay than any other Souls game
0/10 too obvious
Limgrave, Liurnia, Caelid, and Siofra are dope. Great design, good challenge, interesting and rewarding to explore. Nokron, Nokstella, Altus, and the Capital are all cool, but needlessly difficult in some sections. Everything else is either poorly designed or poorly balanced making them a slog to get through. Consecrated Snowfield and the Haligtree, especially, are absolute dogshit.
It's the opposite. Limgrave is the worst part of the game.
>Grasslands with temperate forests and zombies, how exciting!
There's zero reason to explore the super samey caves and catacombs
There's zero reason to fight most enemies
The caves and catacombs (notably the later ones) have better level design than a lot of the DS3 areas.
Discord, trans sis?
too bad they all look the same (which is dull as hell) and all have the same "find thing you need to pull to open the door that that takes you to recycled boss #124". I don't care if I had to take a right instead of the left at that point.
I started this game because it was apparently an open world done right, not like the rest
>Yep cave
>Yep cave v2
>Yep settlement
>Yep cave under settlement
>Yep minibosses recycled over and over
>Music is mostly annoying ambience that loops over and over
>Oh but there's a couple of actual dungeons with actual handcrafted content! To the point they're called legacy dungeons by the community! And the music is actual music here!
It's the fricking same as other open worlds, it's just a detriment. This game shouldn't have been open world
And the legacy dungeons in ER are significantly better than any areas in previous Souls games. How is it ruined by being open world when it contains the best areas in the series?
No. Stormveil is the only great one. The rest are meh.
no they aren't, lol. stormveil and farum azula are the only good ones. leyendell is pretty overrated.
Leyndell has a whole 3-tier system to it's level design it's actually genius. The grungy zombie area at the bottom, the pristine golden city on the main level, and then you have the towers/walls and tree branch paths at the top leading to the Erdtree. Not to mention it has the sewers, which eventually seemlessly connects to one of the underground areas in a way that nobody expected. Leyndell is master class. Only some areas in DS1 even come close to it.
Ehhh, idk. It gets pretty boring on repeat playthroughs. I don't love it as much as everyone else.
yeah leyndell is cool, but what interesting gameplay scenarios does it offer? Jumping on roofs is neat but it's essentially just to grab a few items and get a small advantage on some encounters. That's the extent of the mechanical novelty of the level. Which is huge. Everything else feels identical to what you've been doing for the previous 50 hours.
I never finished the game because honestly just got bored of it, but I can sort of agree with this point because stormveil castle might be the best level in any souls game. The academy or whatever was pretty boring though. Stopped playing after I reached caelid
Consecrated Snowfield sucked ass
Everything else was great
It's a weird experience because all of the proper area dungeons are great and feel like regular DaS. The problem is, they're all short as shit. Like Stormveil, Raya Lucaria, etc. are designed well but they're like 10% of the game. The rest are scattered mini dungeons (with many having regular enemies with boss HP), villages/ruins/gaols and other shit haphazardly placed around an empty open world.
The open world parts aren't that much different from the weaker areas in previous Souls games that were basically just a straight line with some side paths. The only difference is ER's weaker areas are much wider straight lines with much wider side paths. But you also have Torrent so the travel distance is significantly mitigated.
The open world parts are 90% of the game, THOUGH.
But you're not spending 90% of the time in them. You're spending the majority of the time in the areas where you can't use torrent. At least you should be, unless you're one of those autists that has to collectathon everything in open world games.
>spending the majority of the time in the areas where you can't use torrent
Every area that isn't Leyndell is terrible small.
>unless you're one of those autists that has to collectathon everything in open world games.
Yes.
>At least you should be, unless you're one of those autists that has to collectathon everything in open world games.
That's me.
No. Everything outside of legacy dungeons is trash. Regardless of where in the game you are.
Anyone who tries to defend the "design" of the double Gargoyle boss fight is arguing in bad faith.
Can you PLAP PLAP PLAP GET PREGNANT GET PREGNANT Marika if you choose the default ending?
POST WEBM
i think that's the implication
No but it does take a drop in qualtiy after leyndell, which lines up with every other souls game. The later zones are never as polished
no
I really don't mind the open world, honestly. For the most part it's too big and without much to do than explore the occasional ruins or a camp here and there, but it is a good way to clean the palate and change the pace after a long and grueling legacy dungeon
Souls PvP is soo popular because it's unique, especially the asymetric aspects of invasions with 3 COOPers on one side and the invader+PvE on the other.
And shit like world boss invasions are hilarious.
Yes
LIMGRAVE/WEEPING PENINSULA is the best part of the game, they made it so that people get a nice first impression, either from playing or from reading/watching a review
CAELID is also good, but is just to create hype for the endgame
>le noob get ONK by mobs
>wow can't wait to come here in the future, this game is heckerino hard
Either way, the game should have been shorter or the map more dense
You don't "ONK by mobs" even as a RL30 char in Lyndell as long as you're get ~25 vigor.
>i dont want to learn the new mechanics
>i dont want to learn how to jump and duck enemy attacks to gain initiative
>i dont want to learn when to guard counter
>i dont want to block with my weapon
>i dont want to use consumables
>i dont want to participate in online play to get rune arcs to activate powerful great rune buffs
>i dont want to level vigor
>i dont want to play aggressive to take advantage of the stance break system
>i dont want to use charged R2s in big enough openings
>i dont want to try different weapon arts
>i just want to press the roll and R1 buttons with the same weapon for the entire game
>wtf this boss is so tedious! the game is the problem, not me
nooooo I don't want to learn mechanics i'll just call it dance dance input reading
Guard counters suck so much. They would be so better if you have i-frames or innate hyperarmor to justify taking damage.
>Guard counters suck so much
No.
>not compatible with hypermode
Yes they do.
Guard counters do a charged R2's worth of damage and poise damage, what are you smoking
they're also extremely hard to hit and slow. they don't even work most of the time like most of fromsoft's new "additions" to the game
but of course you'll probably just say "get gud"
troon
I accept your concession shill
have fun talking to yourself in your gay thread
It's too obvious whenever you post, troon
nice reddit spacing, really made me think
>they're also extremely hard to hit and slow
lol
>enemy literally sleeping
wow fun combat, also you see one of those guys 5 minutes into the game, they're like level 1 but have 4000 hp
You can just go for Charge Attacks and Jump Attacks. It only deals significant damage while 2Hing a weapon. meaning you have to take damage to use it and it's still slow.
Charge attacks take 4 seconds to wind up on a big weapons like a colosal.
Meanwhile a guard counter swings in 1 second.
And it will probably miss because it's super slow and has a relatively small hitbox for how long it takes you to do it
what's your point? that this janky system somehow makes the shitty game fun?
Wrong.
Git gud.
I accept your concession again
Collosals are some of the the longest weapons in the game, only the pike has more range.
Try actually playing the game, greatshield + bonk detroys bosses.
>DUH DE MOVE NO CAN MISS LARGE WEAPUN
try playing the game in any area that's not a perfectly flat plane and tell me guard counters are good
also stop posting two year old shill webms
>guard counters bad even though they completely shut down and trivialize beast clergyman aka one of the fastest spammiest bosses in the game as proven here
>Guard counters suck so much
No.
You just keep getting BTFO.
>can't even respond
that's what I thought
I accept your concession again
If you see a post with no capitalization and reddit spacing don't respond except to call him a troon. Eventually after proving him wrong too many times he'll sperg out and repeat his posts until he comes back with a new argument
unironically a skill issue
do you have anything else other than these two year old shill webms
are you trying to guard counter with a dagger
You have to wait for an enemy attack to use it in the first place.
And? ER enemies are agressive so that's not a problem.
You can literally guard counter every single enemy like the Knights in Lyndel and they drop down in 2-3 counters from an small axe.
>ER enemies are aggressive
They are also bumbling morons. You still have to wait for an attack and take a hit for it which just gets killed at low HP%
>innate hyperarmor
I'm 99% sure they do on heavy weapons, no different from normal attacks. And if it gives HA, you now get damage reduction with it.
They upped reduction values when blocking with large 2H weapons recently, so you can even counter like that.
If you take off all your clothes and use a basic short sword you're going to see it doesn't have hyperarmor.
>No armor & a light weapon gives you no hyperarmor
Wow!
HA in ER depends on your weapon (like 3) and adds virtual poise to your passive value (also like 3, I think).
That's why it would be INNATE hyperarmor. In exchange for taking up a large chunk of meter to grant an additional bonus.
>i dont want to block with my weapon
Reminder.
>WHY DO YOU REFUSE TO USE THE NEW MECHANICS!?!
>use new mechanics
>REEEEE, WHY DID YOU USE THE NEW MECHANICS!!!?!!!?!
what a terrible fricking game
/spit
No
Early game is the best because it's the only part of the game where you can find a new weapon and just use it, instead of having to painstakingly grind for upgrade mats.
>grinding for mats
>instead of just rolling with it and buying them when they become available from twin husks
You still need the runes to buy the stones and if you don't like the weapon or if it's worse than what you've had then you've 100% wasted your time & ressources.
The upgrade system is just stupid, they've already got stats that gatekeep weapons and that can make weapon damage scale with it. I shouldn't be doing more damage with a dinged out wood club than with a god slaying sword just because the latter is unupgraded.
Killing a few midgame enemies like Lyndell Knights is enough to buy 20 stones of each tier to get a weapon to +15.
Sure you can grind efficiently, but it's not very fun or meaningful. I don't want to spend an hour doing the same thing over and over just so I can know whether or not some weapon is going to be useful to me. It's just padding the game's length.
Plus I could just use the runes for leveling or upgrading the weapon I'm already using. The system just goes completely against exploring the game's possibilities, because spending runes on what you're already using will almost always yield better results.
Sorceries/Incantations/Ashes of War are a lot better in that regards, because as long as you have the right stats you can just use them.
>I don't want to spend an hour doing the same thing over and over just so I can know whether or not some weapon is going to be useful to me.
Unless you want to upgrade 20+ weapons, you only need to clear a bunch of Lyndell Knights once in 5 minutes and that gives enough souls for 12 of each stone you can buy.
>You still need the runes
That you should have from picking them up. You are not one of those scrubs that uses them for leveling, right?
Elphael, the royal capital and the underground are all certified kino.
>Everything past the early game is trash
>Is that true?
No, but there is a lot of filler trash in it, and it definitely wears out its welcome by the end of the game.
It's a solid 7/10, with 9/10 parts and 5/10 parts.
Good game but when that difficulty spike happens midway through it made it a bit exhausting to want to keep going. More so on a replay.
There is no difficulty spike.
Uh yeah there fricking is
If you experienced a sudden difficulty spike at any point its because your build was garbage.
sorry I dont play cheese builds like some homosexual
You're just garbage at pressing buttons, no need to get upset.
Funny the git gud excuse is still used as a shield for ANY criticism of souls games. Souls gays are the worst.
Maybe you should git gud then?
>git gud
>aka make a really op magic build and cheese everything basically cheating
You didnt beat the game
You don't need magic to have fun fair fights. The fact that you think this is proof you're a shitter.
git gud
You dont, but I know that's what you git gud queers do for a fact
>i gimp myself with a challenge build and then complain the game is too hard for me
User error.
Lol
the last like 6 bosses could be from a different game entirely
You're just bad. git gud
you don't have the right, O you don't have the right
It just feels like dark souls 3 again but with an empty open world full of trash mobs and no story. I don't know what people see in it.
>you didn't beat the game
oh but I did. the credits were rolling
you're free to think whatever you want, but it's a fact that you didn't beat the game