https://www.windowscentral.com/gaming/pc-gaming/exclusive-lenovo-is-working-on-a-pc-gaming-handheld-called-the-legion-go
>According to our sources, Lenovo is working on a handheld gaming PC dubbed 'Legion Go,' and it will sport Windows 11 for maximum PC gaming compatibility.
>While details are scant right now, we understand this will sport AMD's new Phoenix processors, which the chip firm describes as ultra-thin, focused on gaming, AI, and graphics for ultrabooks. The fact the Legion Go will sport Ryzen chips pretty much guarantees that this is a Windows PC gaming handheld, as part of Lenovo's popular gaming "Legion" brand.
>According to our information, the Legion Go could sport an 8-inch screen, making it larger than the ASUS Rog Ally or the Steam Deck, both of which have a 7-inch display. PC and console games ported to PC are often designed for larger monitors or even TVs, and on smaller screens, UI elements can be difficult to see, especially if the game doesn't have a UI scaling option. A larger display could give the Legion Go a decent advantage over its competitors if it remains lightweight and balanced, which of course remains to be seen.
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its gonna turn out like every single deck competitor
slightly better specs for at least twice the price
Why can't they just price it lower than the Deck?
Then, there would be a chance to be a real alternative to it.
The Steam Deck doesn't generate any profit for Valve. They just want you to get into Steam to buy games there.
>The Steam Deck doesn't generate any profit for Valve. They just want you to get into Steam to buy games there.
Well, I guess it's working since I bought one
>it wouldnt be worth it to price it low, its already a niche product
So, all these handheld are being sold overpriced, because they're niche products, and likely abandoned in a few years for the new hotness?
I'm even more please with my Deck purchase now.
>Plus they're not paying the M$ tax.
I agree, but AYANEO posted about making their own SteamOS version in the past; where did that project ended up?
They would've saved Windows license money with that, and by forking SteamOS they would've also saved on maintaining the OS.
>where did that project ended up?
Good question. Didn't they say they had a deal with microsoft though because microsoft wants to weasel in and test the waters on handhelds too? They probably got windows for free and it killed their system.
Is this really still true? DDR5 and SSD prices have fallen pretty hard since Steam Deck was first released.
Do these Steam Deck alternatives not have Steam platform support? I just assumed they would, as that's one of the primary game sources.
Worked on me
nonsense. unless they sell it at a loss the deck will always generate a profit because it runs steam. the number of autists who go steamless on it will never amount to even a single percent.
it wouldnt be worth it to price it low, its already a niche product
Because the deck is extremely price competitive. Valve can make all their money back with steam, nobody else really has that luxury. Plus they're not paying the M$ tax.
valve doesn't have economy of scale since they don't produce enough deck to lower the cost of production
Valve has produced at least 3 million decks by now. They're producing at scale. Most chinkshit UMPC's get made in batches of like 5k, that's why they cost so much and and why there's a new one announced every other week. AYANEO announced 20 this year alone because valve has been eating up their market and their previously niche products are selling even less than before.
they could do better than 3 million a year to get cost to go even lower
>they could do better than 3 million a year to get cost to go even lower
For a first foray into a new market, 3 million is great. They're barely breaking into Asia, too, so I expect lifetime sales of the deck to be somewhere in the range of 6-8 million. The steam deck 2 would have very stable footing, and likely sell twice as much. Valve's doing fine at their current price point.
Steam sells the Deck extremely close to break even point, because the real money maker for the Steam Deck is the 30% store fees on all extra games you wouldn't have bought before. Other manufacturers aren't going to have that revenue oppertunity, not to mention the license fees for Windows (while the deck ships Linux).
valve should be a loss leader to increase its market share. 30% off every game sold would be easy to help recoup the loss on selling the deck
they already sold the games. Valve literally profits from every Deck competitor. What would be the point of selling the console at a loss which is btw. illegal in some countries
Valve can probably sell the Deck for $200 and still make a profit from people buying games on Steam
market too small. lower price means it won't be powerful enough to play the latest goyslop while emulation trannies will go for the even cheaper android alternatives. i would buy it though
It's cheap as frick, same as the Quest 2, both offer more than what they cost.
Better question is why haven't Microsoft or Sony made a fricking steam deck? They have the technology available, the libraries, the experience etc.
They could have diverted resources to a handheld sku if they didn't already segment their consoles into high/low end. Sony is about to release a Pro model, so even though they weren't segmented before, now there will be cucked and uncucked PS5's that require attention from by devs. Asking devs to take into account a third lower spec'd device is a straw that breaks the cammels back scenario, the devs and publishers will only focus on the console that makes money, so the handhelds will go the way of the Vita and die due to lack of games and interest from the west.
>microsoft and sony
>library and experience with handhelds
Lmao
>Why can't they just price it lower than the Deck?
Valve can subsidise losses through their infinite Steam money in order to muscle out the competition.
Basically this, Anon. Consoles have been selling at a loss since the PS2 and game companies have been using software sales to make up the difference, hence the hyper-competitive and restrictive practices towards e-store spaces and game exclusives.
The fact is, companies aren't kept out of competition by the big boys - Nokia, Lenovo, Microsoft and all sorts of other companies have been making knock-off consoles since the early days of gaming. Most of them are big black holes that you throw money into, never to return, and that's why we don't see many takers these days trying to enter into the market.
For the same reason I chose the Deck over the ROG, these other companies are just tech companies putting their feet in the water to see if a market is already in place for them. Valve is the only company that is actually creating this market and has the motivation to stay in it if there are no profits. They'll keep making firmware and software updates faster and with more of an ear for the community than any other competitor.If Asus gets bored and has some new phone or laptop coming out, they are going to put more resources there. Valve is never not going to prioritize the Steam Deck.
The Deck is already as cheap as it can be. Hardware companies aren't going to start selling niche products for a loss. Valve can sell it at essentially cost price because of two things, Steam and Linux. They want to push Linux gaming because they don't feel safe being dependent on Microsoft, and the Deck is the perfect way to do that. Additionally, Steam is by far the best store on Linux, so they can be sure that everyone who gets a Deck will keep using Steam on it.
Don't forget the os and lack of trackpads.
None of these people get the point.
>steam deck competitor
*Switch Competitor, and like the steamdeck it will be a bunch of manchildren jerking off about specs while having no exclusive games, no sales, and a massive inferiority complex.
The Deck can't touch the Switch, that thing is on its own lane, like the PS2 and the Wii.
>no exclusive games
But enough about the switch.
is it really not exclusive if you have to replicate the entire system in software to play it on PC
No its not exclusive because the switch has no good games. Candy Crush and Subway Surfers are exclusive to mobile and pc with emulation but nobody copes that their bingbings are a selling point like ninmanchildren.
>it's not exclusive if i don't like it
ok julio
Yes Esteban, that's how it works. Pc keeps getting playstation "exclusives" but they flop harder than your mom doing a cannon ball. How can exclusivity matter if the games aren't good?
>Pc keeps getting playstation "exclusives"
but they're not exclusives once ported to other platforms, that's how that works
But they were exclusives right up to that point, and despite them being exclusives now being ported nobody gives a frick.
this was about "nintendo has no exclusives" being a silly standpoint due to the necessity of emulators, not whether or not anybody gives a frick about sony games after they're natively ported
Dumbass it has everything to do with exclusivity not mattering if people don't like it. Whether you can emulate switch games or not doesn't matter for my argument. Playstation exclusives losing their exclusivity and flopping was my example of it not mattering depending on perception.
your argument has absolutely no relevance at all to anything i said and what started this conversation, go find some other redditor to talk to because i was talking about nintendo exclusivity as it pertains to emulators and you're talking about playstation exclusivity as it pertains to PC ports and player-retention across platforms
>your argument has absolutely no relevance at all to anything i said and what started this conversation
Yes it does. It was about the deck not having exclusive games unlike the Switch. I told you why the Switch's exclusives don't matter.
>go find some other redditor to talk to because i was talking about nintendo exclusivity as it pertains to emulators
No, you were trying to shift the conversation into that topic, which completely invalidates and btfos your point anyway, when I didn't even want to discuss that because it wasn't my argument. cry about it Black person.
>while having no exclusive games
Oh well, I guess I'll just use it to emulate nintendo "exclusives" instead.
The Ally is $700 for 512GB, so only $50 more than the comparable Deck, but also comes with 3 months gamepass ultimate ($45 value), so no, they come out to around the same price
Same will go for this time, as it has the same underlying AMD chipset
Software services are fricking worthless dumbass. You really think it costs Rog anywhere near $45 to provide that shit to you? LMAO
Do you think I give a single frick what it costs ASUS? All I care is the value I'm getting for what I'm paying
Anon, gp has been offered for a buck several times, if you want to think it's $45 "value" you are free to delude yourself
512GB deck is bad value and has also gone on sale twice. 64 gb +1tb drive replacement is a much cheaper option.
>$50 more than the worst value steam deck and the same price as a fully featured rtx 3060 laptop on sale
WOOOOOOOOW WHAT A STEAL!
The gamepass shit doesn't work if you have a sub so its effectively worthless lol.
It does. I stacked the extra 3 months from my Ally on top of my existing gamepass ultimate sub
Everyone is squaking about the 64gb Deck as if it isn't the extreme minority that buys an SSD and performs surgery on their Deck. The Ally's screen and chip are more expensive than the one in the Deck, an equivalent 7840u laptop goes for like a grand. For what it is the Ally is a steal, it would be hard to go any lower than that based on components alone.
>linuxgays have extremely distorted idea of what is normal and assume everyone is willing to deal with tinkering
News at 11
>buying a 40 euro 512gb microsd card to save 260-40 euro? you need to be a hacker to do that
I honestly underestimate how stupid and lazy people are all the time.
Most people sound so inept I bet they dont even have a tool box at home.
Only power users are buying UMPCs, they're designed for tinkering, even the shelf warmer you're shilling.
Willing to bet not even 10% of Deck owners have replaced their SSD.
Kek are you for real? I'm willing to bet that they're in the majority.
>64GB model is frequently out of stock
Great, free money.
You can get a 4060 laptop for $699 on a sale. The MSI Cyborg one was literally this price the other week, and that's far more powerful than a desktop 1650 equivalent gpu on top of having a fully backlit keyboard included. The Ally is poor value and the Deck only makes sense at $400, $350 now really. They should have sold it for $500 with the weaker one for $400 and they would have doubled their sales.
You are buying it at clear out prices, they aren't making money off that. If they sold it at $500 they would be losing money. If the Ally was selling at cost in less than 2 months something is very wrong. Also find me a handheld with a 4060 in it and then we'll talk.
I can literally get them for less than $700 from local sellers. Why can't Asus sell it for less? Make software services actually worth buying into if it matters so much to them. Oh wait they're all garbage anyway.
>used stock
Uh huh. Find me any new device with an 7840u available for less than $700.
>make software
Like what?
I'm really excited about all these handheld PCs coming out. It's great.
can't wait to get one and install Linux on it
Everyones making Deck rip offs but using Windows instead of Linux. Are there any numbers on how much the Deck sold in comparison with the Asus one? Also most importantly:
>no trackpads
Looks like I'm still good with my Deck then.
Linux requires active software development. Chinks just want to make money off the hardware and move on, so windows is the best fit for them despite the flaws, because Microsoft is handling all the OS stuff.
Ally sold bad. UMPC's cater to power users, not normies who would rather spend less money for a PS5 and copy of CoD. Steam Deck markets to people already roped into the steam ecosystem, and steam is the biggest online marketplace for gamers, so it's already sold about 3 million units.
Ally has sold nearly 500k in 1.5 months, it is doing just fine.
Shipped or sold? Shipped just means 500k were sold to Best Buy for their stock, and however many they sell is the true sales number.
Someone took Asus's announced revenue and decided by $699.
https://retroresolve.com/asus-rog-ally-closing-in-on-500k-units-sold/#:~:text=A%20new%20report%20from%20DigiTimes,in%20total%20sales%20so%20far.
Their revenue is just based on shipped data. Distributors buy up front, at a discount depending on the size of the order. 400-500k for a global launch looks ok, but if the Ally sells like absolute dogshit, to the point Best buy has to heavily discount them to get rid of inventory, then future shipments will shrink down to non-existence, as will Asus' revenue.
It's being sold at a loss by local sellers and employees that see it say it just sits on shelves. It won't reach a million unless it's heavily discounted.
Is the trackpad copyrighted or something? Why is nobody but valve doing trackpads? It’s actually a pretty big feature of the deck and it seems pretty simple to incorporate into a different product. All handheld pc should have kind of trackpad or mouse scrolling ball.
>is the thing on every laptop patented
Well I just wondered if it being used on a handheld gaming pc was restricted somehow since valve seems to be the only ones doing it? You can’t patent shit just based on the device it’s being used on I think.
unironically very probable
wouldnt be suriprised if valve patented their trackpad layout after getting patent trolled for their controllers back buttons
that patent is bullshill the n64 controller already had that so does another controllers, it makes no sesnse and should be removed
In fact you can see it being operad as the sony patent pretends to create it
>Everyones making Deck rip offs
The UMPC craze geared towards gaming predates the Deck by years, Gabe only took a chance with the Deck to begin with because he saw there's a niche market only chinks were taking advantage of.
You guys know that laptops have been around for decades, right?
Laptop gaming is a meme.
Laptop gaming WAS a meme prior to Pascal and Ryzen/RDNA.
You must be black not having breakfast this morning. Why buy a mountain bike when you can get this sedan????
laptops are much bigger than handheld PCs moron
Superseded by smartphones since people STILL don't know how to use computers
Thought this was going to be a snickers joke
Because if Anus couldn't do it, they surely can right?
can't wait for a compilation pic called "The graveyard of steam deck killers"
>lenovo
It'd shit. next
Lost track of how many of these pieces of shits have been made
>no trackpads
When will they learn
are these companies willing to produce 16 million systems in a year and put them out on shelves? that's the level of scale they need to keep cost down
>windows
Its shit
>Windows PC gaming handheld
>Windows
DoA
I wish onexplayer 2 was less expensive or had an alternative in this form factor, I do love the
>deatach pads, attach keyboard, boom a tiny laptop
gimmick
Oh boy, Windows Fricking 11! Because the one thing handheld gaming needs is a popup telling you to buy Office 365. And the Steam Deck doesn't have a doomer newsfeed provided by MSNBC, either. Checkmate, Valve.
costs twice as much as the steam dick
and has lower performance than the steam dick
kek
>Digital only
Not interested. Steam was a disaster for PC gaming. Why should PC games locked behind some DRM frick this shit.
you want a handheld with a disc dive or something?
Why do zoomers think physical PC games had no DRM? Fricking morons chiming in just to show how stupid they are
were you alive when steam first released? physical discs would have moronic drm and said drm would make the games unplayable after a few years because the publisher or dev went under or something. Still salty after picking a cool game from a book fair but it wouldn't fricking install. I don't even remember the game's name but i'm still salty
>no trackpads
>windows
they just never learn
Linux is the future of gaming
Honestly it's all thanks to steamdeck, valve is paving the way.
Until Microsoft actually makes a light handheld version of windows, then I don't care. The software and user experience of a handheld is just as important as the raw specs. The Steam deck has meh hardware but the fact Valve can consistently tweak the OS to squeeze out as much power/perf they can out of the deck and add features is something only achievable when you don't have to collaborate with Microsoft.
it's actually heartbreaking to think that this golden age of handheld PCs had to happen right when w11 is out of all fricking things.
>no trackpads
ONE FRICKING JOB NO WONDER YOU GUYS CAN'T FRICKING KILL THE STEAM DECK
>No trackpads
lenovo is going to brigated by steamies…
It doesn't have a trackpad. There's no point in it existing.
case in point lol
It's a competitor to the Ally and all the other chink handheld shit, not a Deck. There's tons of shit this new Lenovo can't do because they was too lazy to add trackpads
All the people running these companies are clearly not smart, they climbed the corporate ladder by being shameless greedy c**ts willing to screw over people more than their peers
That's the overwhelming majority which makes you think about how you get quality products if it weren't the case.
Quality products is really old shit that is built to last, nobody makes quality products any more
Legion Go and stay go.
>No trackpad
>Twice the price
>Windows
Not a Steam Deck competitor.
so when is someone going to make an affordable version of these that will actually sell?
why do they all insist on windows 10/11? ms has got to be paying them.
I’ll wait until release to get hyped. learned my lesson with the ally.
>learned my lesson with the ally.
It was that bad?
Yes, the SD card slot on mine completely stopped working after a day because of poor cooling.
Damn, sorry to hear that anon.
I thought the problem was less spread. but it seems that a lot of people got it.
Does Valve own a super unique assembly line for their trackpads?
It feels like chinks have everything but trackpad components to streamline 100 variations of these horrible handhelds
>sony could've been a decade ahead of all this
biggest morons in the industry
they needed to focus on the PS4, since they barely had enough devs team for that + PSVR games. its even worse now, since PS5 + PSVR2 needs more games
>entire back is a track pad
deckies are finished
Why are people pretending like trackpads are important? Nobody uses them.
>Nobody uses them.
*sony didn't use them. User customizable trackpads for a PC platform are a very good thing.
Because they're useful, especially for operating windows. It's a fricking PC, do you want to use your PC with a controller instead of a mouse or trackpads?
No?
>do you want to use your PC with a controller instead of a mouse or trackpads?
I actually do have a gaming PC hooked up to my TV which boots to Big Picture Mode to easily navigate with my xbox controller. Most of the time I just use a laptop to browse or do productivity work.
If it'll cost more than 399, it will be a flop.
add a proper keyboard solution and Im on board.
typing is so bad on the steam deck.
>typing is so bad on the steam deck.
Wut? It's fine. If you need fast typing, then buy a bluetooth keyboard for like 20 bucks.
no its garbage and having to use an external peripheral to type is even worse.
>and having to use an external peripheral to type is even worse.
You don't have to, though. Steam deck has dual touchpads, a screen touchpad, and button inputs for typing. Incorporating a shitty flip phone tier thumb keypad underneath the screen would not make you type any faster, it'd just add an additional point of failure, and it'd make the console thicker unless you sacrifice battery life. As it is the Steam deck allows you to cope not having a seperate m/kb rather well when you need to play PC games portably, and if you disagree, then you should be in the market for a laptop, not a UMPC.
>Steam deck has dual touchpads, a screen touchpad, and button inputs for typing.
yeah all of those are garbage why are you making me repeat myself?
How would you improve the keyboard situation then? And don't say a keyboard under the screen, because there'd be no fricking way to use it during gaming like a traditional keyboard, nevermind the mouse situation. Sensible people cope. (you) choose to seethe.
>How would you improve the keyboard situation then?
add a keyboard.
>Lol a virtual keyboard is just fine for a gaming device.
no its garbage. have a nice day.
>add a keyboard
Where?
>u-under the screen
lol. Good luck playing Kenshi, homosexual.
Lol a virtual keyboard is just fine for a gaming device. Absolutely no one needs a dedicated keyboard when there's a WASD and mouse controller mapping option built right into the Deck's options.
There is the 'eck
For everyone else who wants the power and want to spend the money there is the GPD4 win.
Don't see a market for anything else atm.
Black person please. Half of the time the onscreen kb doesn't work. It's steam integrated.
Definitely buy a hub and have a kb ready if you're planning to buy a deck.
tbf you'll need it when you're @ home tinkring.
You can get other onscreen keyboards.
Pretty odd that Alienware didn't release their planned handheld, it was announced around the same time as the Deck, or maybe it was a little before, I don't remember. They probably lost confidence in the product, or are waiting for more powerful mobile CPU offerings, but meanwhile their direct competition like Asus and Lenovo are jumping on the wagon to release theirs.
>tfw no thinkdeck
SteamOS is free and made for Handhelds. Why don't they use that?
Because they don't want to be subservient to Gabe, doesn't matter if it's free, using SteamOS is literally endorsing Valve, if the person who buys it like SteamOS they can just install it themselves. Also the common pattern among all those handheld PCs is that they are Chinese branded, Windows is the home for pirated software without Linux support.
If I were an unaware suit out to make money I would trust Microsoft will keep developing windows over Valve keeping up with SteamOS. Plus then everyone would just say, why not buy the Steamdeck, it's cheaper. Valve has that market cornered.
>Windows
So this one is going to fail too
Why are they so mean to midgets?
>8" screen
Hoping for a smaller device, we already got the Deck and Ally for big handhelds.
The GPD Win 4 (6,5 inches screen) is the smallest it is going to get for a while, these companies are running the thin line between portability and power, too small and simply it won't be powerful enough to run modern'ish games at low settings, too big and people just won't see a reason to buy a laptop instead.
The first GPD Win was tiny, 5 inches screen, but even at the time it was very underpowered, mobile CPU offerings were poor.
That's about the size I'd be happy with, that or Air Pro sized. Like the optical mouse, surprised every handheld doesn't have one now.
I am only entering this thread to tell everyone not to buy this, Lenovo is literally the worst fricking brand I've ever had the displeasure of experiencing.
Perhaps the second time is my fault, but every Lenovo product I've ever had has been a complete fricking lemon except a cheap mouse.
Even when brand new they had issues, and Lenovo support was tremendously unhelpful.
If anyone tells you to buy a Lenovo anything, do not do it. Even a random Chinese bootleg handheld would be better.
Do not trust Lenovo proponents.
>windows
and its dead before arrival
But what about ALOOOOOOOY?
The only ones worth considering are the gpd win4 and maybe that new ayaneo slide when it comes out. Both come with a keyboard that the steam seck doesnt. The win4 also has a optical mouse, cant say if the ayaneo has anything for a mouse besides a rebind for the analog stick.
You're probably better off still just buying a steam deck anyway. Only reason I'd want a gpd win4 is just to larp as Keima Katsuragi with a shit ton of shitty VNs and dating sims on a not! psp/vita.
I just want a Win Mini so I can close it and have a keyboard.
>thumbsticks
>dpad
>keys
>folds
>trackpad
it's beautiful
power button in a spot you'd constantly tap it by accident
GPD probably won't make a device a small as the very first GPD Win was before a massive spike is power/cooling solution happens in R&D for these devices.
The first GPD Win was very small, but it had massive cooling flaws, with a very weak CPU to boot, imagining a scenario where a much more powerful device can still be as small as the first GPD Win was without any cooling issue would be a dream.
That would be my ideal machine but I can accept something Win 2-sized (apparently the Win Mini is just barely bigger than the 2).
gpd win mini is coming, seems pretty small
but I'd like a pocket mini or whatever, something size of my pocket 2
that keyboard is too small to play anything with it so you are trading portability and comfort for a useless gimmick. also it looks too large to type with the thumbs comfortably, how the frick are you even supposed to use that thing?
looks like both thumbs can easily reach all keys.
It's good for games that require a little keyboard interaction, like text adventures. Also for googling, obviously you won't be typing essays with it.
That looks like a fun toy, but imagine pecking about on that trying to type. You might as well just have a touchscreen with on-screen keyboard.
Other than to tinker with, I cannot think of a reasonable application for that.
you have two thumbs m8 its not hard to type like that.
>you have two thumbs
lol, that's no faster than just chicken pecking an on-screen keyboard. Actually, I think it might be even slower because thumbs are the least dexterous digit.
wrong
gay
It looks like it's similar to the Win 2 keyboard which was useful for just typing rudimentary things in text adventures and rpg maker games. Also for googling to get me to pcgamingwiki for whatever patches I needed. It's definitely not useful for conversations on discord or steam, or writing documents.
I want a clamshell with a physical thumb typing keyboard
GPD win 2 did it right, I should have just bought it when I had the chance
>I should have just bought it when I had the chance
The specs were ass. You dodged a bullet not buying that paper weight.
I play a lot of low spec games, but they all need a physical keyboard
Steam community control schemes usually take care of that shit in the few instances I play a game that is mouse/kb only like Fortune Summoners. Shit just werks.
>Windows
no thanks
The one thing that will always make these worse than the Steam Deck is the fact that they don't have in line controls. Having offset sticks and buttons is always uncomfortable on a handheld, the Steam Deck is comfy as frick to use because all the buttons and sticks are in one easy to reach line.
It's a trade off. You trade comfort and ergonomics for making the handheld less wide.
No touchpads no buy
There already are like a hundred of these things in the market. Do people really spend money on this trash?
If they can improve and learn from the mistakes of the Ally and Deck then it might be really good. The only problem I have with the Ally is the battery life. On a side note, do people really use the trackpads on the Deck? I've tried using them and thought they were utter shit.
Everything about your post tells me you play AAA garbage. Yes goy, true pc gamers use trackpads.
I use them when I play TB RPGs
I wonder what market these companies seem to think exist for these
>no trackpads
Why? How do you control windows, with the fricking touchscreen?
Why must all things gaming be ugly? Do gamers like that, want that? I know Chinese-designed stuff tends to be overly busy and tacky, but gaming gear in general tends to be hideous.
Why not make it simple and classy? Why always so flamboyant and ugly?
Get a different VESA compat stand + don't look at the back
Solved.
I don't know why, but chinks love michael bay transformers movies, and the design elements transfered over to gaming gear. They just don't have any taste.
I want a Deco brushed steel frame on all my things.
That's just how the Chinese are
>Another DoA handheld with Norton & Office 365 bundled
LOL
thanks to this thread I refreshed a search and bought a second hand 2021 gpd win max wit i7-1195 that appeared for sale few hours ago
I'm much more of a keyboard gamer than gamepad one, so I think I will be fine with it, will see
Yeah, k, sure. Happy for you tho, or sorry that happened.
>windows
straight into the trash again
>lenovo
im sure it will be really popular amongst the 10 Gankerrognards desperately clutching onto their thinkpad
remember Lenovo's windows mixed reality VR headset?
of course not. no one uses it.
How is windows on Steam 'eck these days?
It could be great for running kernel anticheat shit games
Well, it's Windows, breaks constantly and is even more hostile to UMPC users than desktop users.
I'd rather buy one of these handhelds instead of the steam deck, steam deck forces Linux and Steam on you while these use Windows which is the better OS despite what troons say and you can also play anything you want and you're not tied to Steam
Steam Deck can only play Steam games, to play anything else you have to go through a bunch of bullshit and forget about getting gamepass
t. Blissfully moronic moron.
You can even install Mac os on it, what's the point of showing your metric system room temperature IQ?
Windows suck on handhelds
Sweet, 720p @ 30 fps and 0 fps lows!
These fricking morons I swear to God, they are so fricking stupid.
JUST MAKE A PHONE WITH A SLIDE OUT CONTROLLER.
MAKE THE PSP:GO PHONE
UNDETACHABLE SWITCH CONTROLLERS MAKE NO FRICKING DESIGN SENSE, YOU'RE JUST MAKING THE DEVICE BIGGER FOR NO BENEFIT, I'D RATHER CARRY AN ACTUAL CONTROLLER THAT FITS IN MY HANDS
STOP DOING THIS
You already have the GPD Win devices for this niche.
yeah a xperia play 2 would be nice
>shit flat thumbsticks, hand cramps after 5 minutes
>more moving parts, easier to break
>more expensive to produce, higher price
>thicker and heavier, to gain like 5 cm in width
what's the matter? the deck doesn't fit in your purse?
what i want out of a handheld:
>to be ergonomic, proper controls and button placement
>to be silent (when playing PS3 tier games and below)
>to have a good screen
>to have exclusive games
>to have a nice design
the deck has none of those
I have terrible news, Deck has all those.
>>to have exclusive games
So only switch 2 got a chance?
>>to be ergonomic, proper controls and button placement
Has this given mouse-only pc games and desktop navigation.
>>to be silent (when playing PS3 tier games and below)
Has this with the updated fan speed enabled in settings.
>>to have a good screen
Better than a Switch and most $300 monitors.
>>to have exclusive games
There are plenty of pc exclusive games.
>b-but they don't count!
Then neither do switch games because I don't like them. See how that works?
>>to have a nice design
A sleek, clean black design is nice if you aren't an ar gay bee manchild.
I will not buy or support anything named after a demon.
I don't understand why Microsoft didn't get into making their own computer components to completely dominate the market. Windows was the most widely used operating system so why not make the video cards and processors to go along with it?
This is what Valve wanted. They wanted to legitimize a platform to further expand the steam playerbase.
"yeah uhmmmm how come two of you have wieners"
valve specifically want people to use linux.
they dont care about people using the steam store because you can be sure that the absolute majority like over 90% of steam deck buyers are already steam customers in the first place.
Why would you buy a Steam Deck if you have a desktop gaming PC?
What if the Deck is your desktop gaming PC?
because it's easier to play porn games without your family finding out
>windows
As long as they're locked into deals with Microsoft, and the customer has to pay the Windows tax (+ bloatware) what's the point?
>physical buttons in the device
>when any Pc gamer have a xbox controller
test test, i hate Black folk, frick all Black folk, gas the israelites.
psa: if you are using a points shop keyboard theme - dont. i just turned mine off and suddenly the virtual kb stopped eating inputs for which even a confirming vibration happened.
What kind of blatant shill bullshit is this thread? We're just accepting this bullshit now?