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  1. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    they’re pokemon from alternate timelines

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Imagination

      This is not a fanfic thread.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Its stated in the games

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          They were never stated to be magically manifested from imagination

          They were only ever mentioned being from other timelines from a younger professor that never actually obtained them yet, and only says they want to. This contrasts with the ai professor that actually witness where the paradoxes come from, and the game is consistent at that point in calling the past/future pokemon.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Imagination

      Arceus is so cruel

  2. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Imagination

  3. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Pokémon from a timeline where things are still prehistoric and Pokémon from a timeline where the Pokémon species are robots. Think of how in the TCG games, Pokémon are just playing cards.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Okay but the devs' view on alternate timelines has always been worlds with barely any differences and the events just shifted around slightly. So Past Paradoxes, even though they are ancestors to modern pokemon, are being pulled from another timeline where evolution just happened later, and vice versa with the future.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        I like to think the past paradox timeline is stuck forever no one will ever progress

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Okay but the devs' view on alternate timelines has always been worlds with barely any differences
        No it hasn’t. The biggest indicator of this is ORAS where they made a point where one timeline exists that is completely absent of Mega Evolution and never had to deal with a world ending meteor. Shut up.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          You mean the ORAS that’s literally just RSE but SLIGHTLY different events? The same one that implies every save is another universe that connect via link cable? The one that has the same general main story but at a shifted point on the timeline (relative to other games)? Oh yeah, that ORAS. That proves my point.

          Have you played any Gen 7 game at all?

          Yes, I have. The games that employ another framework of the multiverse concept where. The universe so googolplex-ly big there are entire worlds worth of repetition? That’s a completely seperate discussion.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            So you’re just arguing just to argue. I don’t have the time to get into disingenuous runarounds. Talking to walls aren’t my strong suit.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            >You mean the ORAS that’s literally just RSE but SLIGHTLY different events?

            The region has a completely different backstory, the legends have completely different lore, there is a clan of people living there that don’t exist in RSE, a giant tree with a special flower that doesn’t exist in RSE, etc etc. Even the characters have different motives, story arcs, and Pokémon in general. Why did you make something up and deliberately ignoring things in order to make a point?

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              I’m not denying there are differences you fricking mongoloid. I’m saying none of them are to the point of being unrecognizable different worlds like in the case of people thinking the paradoxes are from. In all of your examples (some of which are pure headcanon) all of them demonstrate an extremely similar world where general events play out similarly.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                >I’m saying none of them are to the point of being unrecognizable different worlds
                Literally every single fricking world in Ultra Space completely invalidates whatever moronic point you are trying to make, homosexual.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                As already stated, Gen 7 used a different means of “multiverse” that relies on our universe just being terribly huge that there are worlds that repeat. Why do you think they’re a certain amount of light years away from us?

                >as usual they've picked up one throwaway line (this time one that wasn't even translated correctly) and turned it into their entire argument despite the entire game directly telling them they're wrong
                That's the timegay cope because they STILL can't comprehend what the plot is actually about. ID gave us a dozen more confirmations that time travel has nothing to do with the paradox origins and yet they can't help grasping onto the same exact line from the same exact person that believes otherwise.
                ...Even though the game explains in the same breath how they came to that conclusion.

                >let me ignore that the only thing the game calls them is Pokemon from the past and future and never refutes itself!

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                Which examples were headcanon?

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                We don’t know for sure that the Draconids and the big tree don’t exist in the RSE universe. And the pokemon being newer is just a retcon like every other remake except BDSP.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                >some pokemon looking more like dinosaurs or robots in alternate timelines is unrealistic
                >but alternate timelines where pokemon have a completely different elemental typing that outright doesn't exist in some timelines is fair game

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                When did I make a point about what’s realistic or not? This is a fictional universe/multiverse. All I’m discussing is what the game actually says, and it’s littered with them being called ancient/future pokemon. Even in promo material and other media like the TCG. I don’t even get what your second point implies. Ultra beasts? Tera?

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          Bro gen1 starts with 2 main timelines. Yellow adds 3rd one.
          Johto games confirms that with timemachine. Where mons travel through time and space.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          >completely absent of Mega Evolution and never had to deal with a world ending meteor
          The universe hates megas so much it's trying to destroy it.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Have you played any Gen 7 game at all?

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Look at it this way, Scarlet the world of Pokemon if a meteorite had never fallen and wiped out the fossilmons.

        Violet the world of Pokemon after a second meteor and it will wipe out 99% of the species and the few remaining humans (or an AI) dedicated themselves to creating reploids.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          Close but no cigar. That ignores the obvious telegraphing of ancestors/descendants that they are, as they look way too similar to modern pokemon. I see it as they are in our timeline as well, just that we didn't get them from there. They happen to exist in other timelines as well that are just shifted forward or backwards in evolutionary progression, and that that's where we got them from. That way, there is no contradiction. They can still be ancestors and descendants of OUR pokemon while sill being from "alternate" timelines.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            this is what the game is actually saying (if they even meant to be from other timelines at all), don't let anyone convince you otherwise anon

  4. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    cooler pokemon

  5. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    SV proves any pokemon can be a legendary if things are play out in their favor

  6. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    If you haven't figured it out by now you're never going to

  7. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Can someone just interview the director already? Headcanon squashing is getting tiresome....

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      After what you people put them through during SWSH? lol

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        That sucks. I can imagine someone mentioning imagination to them and them just laughing and asking where the frick they got that idea from.
        or the more likely “Haha, I really don’t know” they’ll inevitably give

  8. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Ultra Beasts

  9. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >t.

  10. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    they're from the past and future, nothing to explain
    >inb4 muh alternate universes muh ultra beasts
    if you said this to the people who wrote the game they'd laugh in your face

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      UBs are just pokemon from ultra space

  11. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    the past ones are convergent evolution, the present day Pokemon that they resemble aren't actually dinosaurs
    the future ones are either robots or cyborgs that were designed to resemble the present day Pokemon which they use as a basis

  12. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    reminder that the multiverse shit is what imaginationgays picked up when their delusions got blown the frick out, as usual they've picked up one throwaway line (this time one that wasn't even translated correctly) and turned it into their entire argument despite the entire game directly telling them they're wrong

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >as usual they've picked up one throwaway line (this time one that wasn't even translated correctly) and turned it into their entire argument despite the entire game directly telling them they're wrong
      That's the timegay cope because they STILL can't comprehend what the plot is actually about. ID gave us a dozen more confirmations that time travel has nothing to do with the paradox origins and yet they can't help grasping onto the same exact line from the same exact person that believes otherwise.
      ...Even though the game explains in the same breath how they came to that conclusion.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        >ahhh but you see, the thing i'm clearly doing is actually what YOU'RE doing! i won't elaborate, just ignore the truth like me!
        wow, they haven't even changed their arguments from the imagination era

  13. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Pokémon from different timelines. The whole Pokémon universe is one big multiverse. Someone said it earlier, but it’s like the TCG games or web series where Pokémon are just trading cards like Yu-Gi-Oh. Even our universe is probably just one of a billion different Pokémon timelines.

  14. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    we don't know because the writers listened to the fedora tipping pseuds about how leaving major plot points completely unexplained is great because leaving things open to interpretation is always better than telling a cohesive story apparently

  15. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    lol they can just keep pumping out pokemon forever

  16. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    I want more space pokemon

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Glad they stopped making them all psychic type too

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      you forgot Kyurem

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        That story was bs kyurem is just a husk of shell they probably just punted the poor bastard and it landed in the cavern

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          Its moveset implies it’s from space.
          Maybe the OD is from space?

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            Touchè Kyreum still deserves to be punted into next week tho

  17. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >they have spikes and skin teeth lmao!
    >it's a robot lmao!
    paradox mons were unarguably a mistake

  18. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    They're Paradoxes. No, you don't get to know what the Paradox is, because then you have an explanation that makes them stop being Paradoxes. Dumbfrick.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Are you saying you're so dumb you can't conceptualize the grandfather paradox?

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        But that's not the paradox at play with the Paradox Pokemon. The paradox is that they were introduced to the timeline our game takes place in through a nonlinear fashion with no discernable origin point because each of those periods where they appear are equally viable points of origin from a nonlinear perspective of the timeline.
        They could've first appeared due to the Professor and then get grandfathered back into Heath's era, or they could've first appeared during Heath's expedition because of the magic jackoff crystals triggering for reasons unknown. Or they could have first appeared for ANOTHER reason altogether we're not yet aware of, and then THAT'S what led to their eventual appearance in Heath's expedition, which would later go on to inspire the Professor to create the time machine so they could appear once more by being deliberately summoned via said time machine.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        >the grandfather paradox?
        A grandfather paradox would imply their origin is traced back to an event like the crystal pool rather than actually the past or future.
        So, in other words, imagination theory. But of course timegays are adamant on saying it actually means the exact opposite because their headcanons dictate it.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >only exist in present thanks to Sada/Turo bringing them from past/future with their time machine
      >somehow Heath was able to discover them long before these events inspiring the professor to make the time machine in the first place
      >Arven even brings this up in post game content
      That's it that's the paradox.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        We need to turn that damn machine back on now that we have turo/sada book again

  19. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Future Pokemon look way, way better.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      you are the only person i have ever heard say this

  20. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    They're Pokemon that can only exist through a paradox. For example, a Jigglypuff goes back in time, evolves (naturally) to become scram tail, then evolves (naturally) to go back to being Jiggypuff.

  21. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >cryptids popularized by famous esoteric author and shady occult magazines that appear in the mysterious, Garden of Eden-like chasm in the middle of the region after a deceased insane professor and their AI double fetch them from ancient/futuristic timelines using the crystalized power of the millenary last survivor of a species of creatures capable of displacing things in the multiverse full of infinite possibilities

    There you go

  22. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    They’re new versions of pokemon you like so that you keep consooming

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