Fallout 4

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  1. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    The trailer really gave me the impression that Boston might be something along the lines of a really disfunctional and crime ridden city, sorta like Goodneighbor. I think in that sort of setting the main story with Synths and the Railroad and all the other shit would work far better. You could have the Institute running it all from the shadows. I think it'd be a really neat setting, a kind of bridge between cyberpunk, post-apocalypse and noir.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Nah how about Ironside's flying ship vs the Prydwen. Instead of being used as a one time gag. Of course that'd be beyond Bethesda's coding capabilities.

      They definitely should have focused on the noir stuff more.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        you're 100% right and its sad playing F4 because while i do enjoy the gameplay, the writing is so bad and it makes me pine for What Could Have Been

        agree with this definitely. the noir stuff is fun but they didn't focus on it enough. F4 should've been the noir-fallout to FNV's western-fallout

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >the writing is so bad
          It really isn't. It isn't the best ever but it is not bad either.
          People parrot this shit nonstop because they can't form their own opinions and just spew whatever shit take they read online.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            sorry Emil, you are just a frick up and you should respect your audiance more instead of stripping everything of substance down. There are good ideas in the plot about consciousness and memory and weather the memories make the man (ideas you took directly from Philip k Dick) but instead of doing anything interesting its just window dressing. Everything after Kellog dies is pretty much garbage

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              It’s hilarious that the plot of 4 is basically just the plot of NV done significantly worse, like Emil wanted to show Obsidian up by beating them at their own game but ended up playing himself

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                wtf are you talking about NV tard? 4 and NV are nothing alike.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Benny / Kelogg does thing for his own reason and you're unlucky to be caught in it, have to find Benny / Kid

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                First half of the game is spent tracking down a man who did you wrong, after you deal with him you are sucked into a conflict between several groups who want to control an area and decide the conflict for them. Please explain how they are different.

                >some man did something bad to you
                lol nv gays really are idiots

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >character does thing for his own reason
                >MC interacts with said character
                Wow, every plot since motherfricking Iliad is a New Vegas ripoff. Fricking obsididrones, i swear.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >lol these are nothing alike
                >yes they are this is why
                >woooow thats like every other western story!
                no way

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                First half of the game is spent tracking down a man who did you wrong, after you deal with him you are sucked into a conflict between several groups who want to control an area and decide the conflict for them. Please explain how they are different.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >It really isn't.
            I really is.

            >People parrot this shit nonstop because they can't form their own opinions and just spew whatever shit take they read online.
            You dont have to read that online, you just need to play it and then you know how shit the writing really is, you moronic bethesdadrone.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      that feels like it was the original intention until they decided to shoehorn the settlment mechanic which has absolutely nothing to do with the main plot. in the end product why should i give a single frick about the institute infiltrating a stadium with like 15 people in it and a city block with 20 people in it. they try make you care with the "save muh son" copout but it just creates the same problem nearly every game has had in recent years, forced urgency that ruins the desire for players to actually explore the rest of the game or do side missions without feeling weird. sure you can just go ahead and do them, but it makes the plot a fricking joke that can be ignored and feels less important

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        To be fair “forced urgency” is in every fallout game.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          NV doesn’t really, it’s not like you’re under pressure to find Benny and the second battle of hoover dam even happening is contingent on the minor factions and House being dealt with, until that happens the battle won’t happrn

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            you are under pressure to get the chip back you even have a robot annoying you about.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              You neither need to retrieve the chip nor ever interact with Benny to complete the game

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          they do, but they are done much better. the previous games have their race against time but the time span is in months not days. Fallout 3 is probably the closest to 4 in this regard with the idea you are assumed to be hot on your dads heels only a day or two travel behind him. but heres where 3 does better then 4, for example, it can be feasibly assumed that while you are in megaton, liam neeson is on his way or with three dog and by the time you get to three dog and get black mailed into helping him, he is on his way or already meeting Doctor Li, but to 3's credit none of the dialogue at any of these locations implies any sense of time, they only confirm that he passed through so theres no feeling that you were wasting time while you were helping moira to get more caps to bribe moirarty.

          4 on the other hand, and i suppose this was to try reinforce the ebin twist that your already too late, tries to keep you moving constantly to daimond city, and then fricks up by putting Danse and co in your path on a completly unrelated mission and tries to push you into the faction dynamics with offering you to join the brotherhood when this has nothing to do with the main quest, contrast to 3 where your diversion conceivably feels like your still working towards the main goal of getting past the barrier set by moriarty.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          The funny thing is, it is not forced enough. F4 introduces MC that is running around screaming SHAUN and then basically forces the sandbox onto the player, suggesting to not bother too much with the main quest. But the character still b***hes about not finding SHAUN in the dialogues.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            i would have deleted Shaun from the game, If they wanted to do a grieving husband story just have the wife kidnapped and she disappears with no real conclusion.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      they do, but they are done much better. the previous games have their race against time but the time span is in months not days. Fallout 3 is probably the closest to 4 in this regard with the idea you are assumed to be hot on your dads heels only a day or two travel behind him. but heres where 3 does better then 4, for example, it can be feasibly assumed that while you are in megaton, liam neeson is on his way or with three dog and by the time you get to three dog and get black mailed into helping him, he is on his way or already meeting Doctor Li, but to 3's credit none of the dialogue at any of these locations implies any sense of time, they only confirm that he passed through so theres no feeling that you were wasting time while you were helping moira to get more caps to bribe moirarty.

      4 on the other hand, and i suppose this was to try reinforce the ebin twist that your already too late, tries to keep you moving constantly to daimond city, and then fricks up by putting Danse and co in your path on a completly unrelated mission and tries to push you into the faction dynamics with offering you to join the brotherhood when this has nothing to do with the main quest, contrast to 3 where your diversion conceivably feels like your still working towards the main goal of getting past the barrier set by moriarty.

      F4 makes me sad because it could so easily have been great. I’m sad thinking of what could’ve been. Emil and Todd deserve prison for their crimes against games

      also missed opportunity to have Nate be a cop and former friend of Nick

      All conversely you were a serial killer Nick was trying to catch.
      I thought for ages that was the "secret" in Fallout 4.

      Would be nice. Fallout 4 was the last Bethesda game that I ever bought.

      >the writing is so bad
      It really isn't. It isn't the best ever but it is not bad either.
      People parrot this shit nonstop because they can't form their own opinions and just spew whatever shit take they read online.

      Is this bait or trolling?

  2. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    the entire first half of NV is just the coffin willie encounter
    The second half is red team vs blue team.

  3. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Satan wants us all

  4. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    F4 makes me sad because it could so easily have been great. I’m sad thinking of what could’ve been. Emil and Todd deserve prison for their crimes against games

  5. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Fallout 4 should have been like True detective season 1 with Nate and Nick solving cases

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      also missed opportunity to have Nate be a cop and former friend of Nick

      All conversely you were a serial killer Nick was trying to catch.
      I thought for ages that was the "secret" in Fallout 4.

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