This is how this series died
76 is just raping a corpse
Only reason bethesda is still relevant is because for some unknown reason nobody made another first person open world game aside from one small dead studio
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State of fallout franchise as of now.
>pic related
Shitting it our after new vegas was a fricking crime
I actually never did this quest and put at least 150 hours into New Vegas.
me neither because I just kill any Khan homosexual I see.
100% Pete Hines wouldn't allow Obsidian to make more Fallout content because they showed the inferiority of the Bethesda team too much.
Both companies are dead anyways now. The last decent rpg devs are indie and they can barely scrounge funds to get a AA game through alpha.
Why do New Vegas trannies seem to force the narrative that Bethesda hates Obsidian? Todd Howard literally said he loves New Vegas.
Chris Avellone also said Bethesda was one of the more pleasurable publishers to work with. Never forced anything. Never forbid them from doing anything. The closest they got was they said to Obsidian when they expressed a desire to have playable ghouls and supermutants "We don't recommend that. We don't think you'll have the time given the amount of work it would require. But if you want to go for it go ahead."
Also, contrary to popular belief, Bethesda did not scrimp on QA. They actually gave them about 80 QA testers and they were effective at their job. So effective, in fact, that Feargus Urquhart complained to Bethesda they were finding too many bugs. Bethesda apparently told them "I don't think finding too many bugs is the problem here."
No you don't understand, the giant evil Bethesda RAPED the poor helpless Obsidian, but the homosexual Obsidian only grew more powerful and defeated the Gol- I mean Bethesda
It's the underdog story of the millennium and if you don't agree with me I will LITERALLY kill myself in a dress
This was drawn by someone who does not remember Mario's Time Machine or Mario Is Missing.
this image is funny because the reason all those guy left is to go to other tech jobs with much better pay and less hours. games would be 10x better if they spent the money on better talent
games also would be better if greedy capitalists werent that obsessed with "growth" and blackrock's ratings
they didn't leave because of better pay even though that's a extra benefit for them
games used to be made by nerds who cared for the hobby
now it's made by morons and autismos who cannot seperate fact from fiction who think it's the dream job
>now it's made by morons and autismos
I don't think those words mean what you think they mean.
Never got to do this even after they sent a Khan guy to my room at Novac every single fricking morning at 4 AM to tell me I should do it because none of the dialogue for it appeared with big Papi or Karl.
I would like to think the annoyance of being awakened so early was what drove my Courier to commit Bittersprings 2.0.
i always killed them because i hate drug-pushing raiders
>Comparing a handcrafted side quest to a radiant quest
Actually disingenuous
>handcrafted quest
good quest design
>radiant quest
bad quest design
unless you're talking about roguelikes, intentionally designed elements are generally superior to something that's made by an AI
Radiant quests are meant to fluff out the game, giving you stuff to do even after you finish the handcrafted quests.
I think having both handmade and procgen stuff is a great idea.
not it is not, you know damn well that bethesda uses it as a justification to slack, after settlement system was introduced look how much they reduced he size and number of civilized areas
every single quest in fallout 4 is about clearing a cave with draugrs, these are n
there are not a single quest in fallout 4 outside of far harbor that would match ones in new vegas
OK, lemme give another comparison that might be your speed: if you pulled up to the FO4 equivalent of Red Rock Canyon (e.g the Easy City Downs racetrack) the npcs would just open fire on you on sight. There would be no opportunity for bartering, dialogue, and certainly not for getting a quest related to the location that might involve doing something evil like slaving. Fallout 4 isn't just a step down from NV, it's even a step down from 3 which is incredible. I couldn't believe how disappointing it was to pull up to that racetrack or the Combat Zone and find that you can't even talk to raiders.
You can tell they took their sweet time with the gunplay and power armor and then ran out of time with lots of stuff. When the game was released I bought in on disc and it had like 4gb on it the other 30 I needed to download that was some weird shit
It's actually amazing how accurate this is even though it's a meme. I bought Fallout 4 knowing full well it was going to be shit but it's actually worse: exploring the world is fricking boring, the characters are boring, quests are boring, the settlement system is boring, etc.
My only hope is the New Vegas mod for 4 comes out while I'm still alive.
new vegas with texure/model replacers mods and enb unironically looks better than 4
Until you see an animated NPC.
new vegas is dogshit tho
damn, speaking of the pic, this game has no fricking style, and they doubled down on this in 76 that looks literally nothing like fallout
>Dosent play like fallout
>Dosent look like fallout
>Inst written like fallout
>Called fallout
I hate bethesda
Yeah, the ambience in fo4 is kind of lacklustre.
>Dosent
>shows the worst example of buildings in Fallout 4
>ignores the actually stylized buildings
compare that to the building style of fo1
Looks shit and generic and contemporary. When Bethesda retconned cities into use a derivative of art deco they objectively improved Fallout.
>generic and contemporary
that's the art style fo3 was directly based on, back when bethesda actually cared about aesthetics.
Yeah, Fo3 looks like a 3D version of fo1 and 2. I can imagine it in the iso perspective.
>When Bethesda actually cared about aesthetics
Bethesda cares more about aesthetics now though. They made their own instead of copying oldfallout
Which of the two is it anon?
>Fo3 looks like a 3D version of fo1 and 2
>They made their own instead of copying oldfallout
Use your brain moron. It's both.
Fo3 looks like the originals in 3D
The fallout games after that, they stopped copying the old games.
I guess that's why you're called Obsidiots.
Let me fix your post anon
>New Vegas looks like the originals in 3D
new Vegas copies most of it's assets from 3 though lol
And 3 copied most it's assets from Oblivion though lol
>most of it's assets
no? Most of Fallout 3 is built from the ground up, of course using the same engine as Oblivion, but all the assets were made for Fo3
Proof?
and their own is shit
>They made their own instead
That's the problem though. It isn't that their version is bad, it's just that it isn't Fallout as people remember it
>people complain about Souls games being rehashed shit
>mad when developer's change stuff about the game
That's purists for you.
>literally changes the genre
>what you said you wanted changes
changes the genre
This is possibly the most stupid thing I've ever seen a NVtroony claim.
>was a tactical rpg about freedom of choice and rolepalying, with heavy reliance on dialogues and quality writing
>end up being railroaded looter shooter with horrible written dialogues that mean nothing and only lead ot more shooting
>tactical rpg about freedom of choice
lol
you have nothing to say, its objectively true and your are just a boring troll, get lost
>You're either worship obsidian or are a troll
lol you obsidian troony freaks are so fricking delusional.
this time it was about back isle, you moron, no wonder you like new gemes with your attention span
Not one of the bethards but you must be insane if you think fallout 1 and 2 are "tactical" rpgs
There is nothing tactical about those games their combat sucks
>2 Etrian Odyssey rip off Persona games
>3 Persona dancing games
>1 Persona musou game
>2 persona fighting games
Persona has more spin-offs than it has main series games yet you never see Oldsona Purists rage about it.
So why are fallout Purists so autistic about genre changes and spin-offs.
Because as far as i played persona 3-5 is the same game
Fallout 4 should have been a spin-off but for some reason its a mainline title while actual fallout 3(new vegas) for some reason counts as spin off
you lost me claiming new vegas was the offical 3. it was a spin off game by obsidian. fallout 3 is fallout 3. cant take you serious now
i dont care what is "official"
76 is "officially" a fallout game
NV picks up lore from 2 and uses same design philosophy as first two games
Fallout 3 ignores lore and uses shit from "brotherhood of steeel" while relying on oblivion's game design philosophy
>Fallout 3 ignores the lore
no it doesn't. They literally used the Fallout Bible as a reference for Fallout 3. Bethesda tried too hard to adhere to lore while expanding on it. Fallout 3 is supposed to appeal to fans of the older games but also appeal to new fans. That's why Harold, the GECK, Enclave, BoS, etc are in the game.
I think Bethesda antis are delusional thinking Todd Howard is a dishonest person. Personally, I think he believes everything he says whether what he says turns out to be true. Especially nowadays when he's banned from directly working on the game.
I think Todd Howard is a fan of Fallout, personally.
>They literally used the Fallout Bible as a reference for Fallout 3.
Cool.
They still ignored the lore and made a terribly written game.
Eat shit, bethesda consoomer.
Can you show me a single time they unironically ignored the lore?
>inb4 BoS being goody-two shoes
play the game, they're not the real BoS. The Outcasts are
>le Enclave
is there any lore that states the oil rig was their only base? Or even that Raven Rock doesn't exist? Because Raven Rock would actually make more sense as Enclaves main base because IRL it's a US alternative military command center.
justifications and retcons,
NV didnt need those, why all bethesda's shit needs it so much?
>you never see Oldsona Purists rage about it.
>personagays constantly b***h about 3 onwards not being exactly like 1 and 2
>mainline SMT gays constantly b***h about persona overshadowing them and making them feel like second class citizens
Megaten is a relatively quiet fanbase, but easily one of the most poisonous and rage-filled. It seems like only people who only play 1 entry and literally nothing else can enjoy what they have.
The Loathsome Dungeater never actually ate shit.
They didn't retcon shit, those Necropolis buildings are already art deco, Bethesda flanderized them into goofy garbage.
Honestly, Fo4 and 76 look a lot more stylized.
Necropolis here looks like a generic city.
Meanwhile Watoga has a lot of color and architecture.
>Necropolis looks generic
>somehow misses the 50 story statue up the building and Gotham style architecture
>meanwhile Watoga is barley a couple of streets worth of Jetsons style buildings in fricking pastel colors
>Boston skyscrapers are also pastel colors
Anon, you can just admit you like the new style subjectively without pretending it's actually better. I could respect that even if I don't agree. But trying to pretend they haven't massively diverged from a largely preferred mood and style is just moronic when we can all look at this shit.
>But trying to pretend they haven't massively diverged from a largely preferred mood and style is just moronic when we can all look at this shit.
Except they haven't.
The number of people who played Fallout 1&2 are a fraction of people who have played 3, NV, 4, and 76. All of those Bethesda games look better, feel better, and are styled in a much more preferred way.
The numbers do not disagree.
Nice strawman right there, 3 and NV are both loyal to the original styles, and both are vastly preferred to FO4 and the fact you even mention 76 in that sentence is hilarious.
>3 and NV are both loyal to the original styles
"No."
You have looked at the OG architecture and wandered downtown DC, right, samegay?
cry
Aw, you don't have to do that anon, it'll all be okay. There there.
You want to know a huge reason downtown DC looks very different from downtown Boston in the fallout universe and real life? The height restriction for buildings in DC was set in 1910, and hasn't been changed since then.
>Background. In response to the construction of the 164-foot (50-meter) Cairo Hotel in 1894, D.C. Commissioners issued height regulations for buildings in D.C., limiting their height to 90 feet (27 m) for residential and 110 feet (34 m) for business, or to the width of the street in front, whichever was smaller.
Buildings in DC are very small, low down to the ground compared to any other city on the planet.
Since Fallouts Washington DC is based off the real life Washington DC, the cityscape is going to look much the same.
Architecturally DC is vastly different from every other city in America.
The point is that the architectural style in DC, despite the height element, matches the visuals we got from art and shots of Necropolis in the classic games. Maybe a little less chunky. I actually don't mind some of Boston, it's the whacky ass pastel skyscrapers that bug me mostly.
The Whacky ass pastel skyscrapers are something that'd happen and make sense in the fallout universe though. Contextually it fits more with the theming and time-period it's parodying. Reminds me of the Eastern building in LA.
Maybe, maybe not, that's an entirely subjective discussion based on info we don't have. And subjectively I hate it and thing it looks tonally jarring and generally ugly.
>3 and NV are both loyal to the original styles
lol
>That era where everybody complains about brown and bloom
>b***h that they add color
There's no winning
not wanting everything to be washed out grey/brown/blue doesn't mean i want everything to be neon eye rape instead.
well yes i would expect a nuclear wasteland to be pretty brown and gloomy
These buldings look nothing like they should have been, but the point was about more than just buildings, its about color pallete and lighting.
Fallout 4 looks soft, bland and plastic, overloaded with stupid shit that makes on sense
Fallout 76 is neon bright absurd theme park that is so bad i dont even know where to being
While every other game was crealy dark, restrtained in color, sharp and gritty insted of larping as 50s advert 100% of the time
>These buldings look nothing like they should have been
Fallout takes place in the future. It looks retrofuturistic.
>Fallout 76 is neon bright absurd theme park that is so bad i dont even know where to being
Shit taste. Fallout 76 is a shit game yeah but the environments and locations are god tier beautiful.
Meanwhile New Vegas didn't even keep the adobe huts aesthetic
most normalgay reddit-tier zoomer take on fallout i ever heard on this site, you are a certified retad with literally no taste
i have nothing to say to such specimen as youm i hope you will never breed so your stupidity will die with you
sorry not an argument, NVtroony.
You have nothing to say yet said quite a lot.
you literally said "i love shit" what the frick could i have to say, you cant convince dung eater not to eat shit
go take lsd look at bright colors, i guess it is the only aestetic you zoomies know
are you German by any chance? You seem to be obsessed with eating shit.
Literally imagine playing New Vegas enthusiastically and calling anybody else a normie shit eater, how fricking embarrassing
The only thing that would have to change to please aesthetic gays is a nuclear overcast grey sky. Muting out the colors already there. Otherwise the rusted paint look makes sense.
Even worse
God this game looks so fricking bad. Why does everything look so over exposed?
>NOOO THE ENTIRE WORLD HAS TO BE MADE OUT OF GARBAGE 2000000 YEARS AFTER THE BOMBS FELL OR ELSE ITS NOT FALLOUT
there are more garbage lying around in f4 and 76 individually than in all canonical triolgy(1, 2 NV) combined what the frick are you talking about?
i was talking about artsyle, colors, lighting, architecture style and general tone, in last two games it is wrong
i COULD DO THE SAME FKING SHIT CHERRYPICKING GROSS FNV DESERT PICS F3 AIDS UNDERGROUND PICS OR F1-2 99% OF THE MAP FALLOUT 4 IS KINO AND WILL ENDURE THIS REDDIT ONSLOUGHT
no you could not, NV's deserts and F3's "dungeons" still fit into fallout style i was talking about
Fallout 4/76 does not, its all a big fricking disneyland, made of plastic
Why the frick did you put screenshot of modded NV instead of vanila there
its modded? didnt noticed
dosent matter that much, art direction is the same
>No piss yellow filter
yes, you fricking brainlet.
Do NVtrannies even play the game?
>still seethes over filters
Yeah, looks like ass, just like my ebin 1 and 2
oh wow, the game doesnt have a filter on it like fo3? try wearing colored glasses if it bothers you so much.
What the frick is that rope even attached to? How or why did this person survive with clear holes in his roof and doorway. Also his skeleton isn't even slouched over he looks likes puffing his chest out as a final act of defiance towards death itself. The skeleton also looks smaller than an adult.
>its been long enough that he's a full skeleton
>but not long enough for the rope to be completely rotten
there shouldn't be full skeletons anywhere other than sealed facilities because animals would have scavenged them.
Is that a skeleton that hanged himself in a post-apocalyptic setting? The video essayists are going to want to hear this!
even the skeletons look pissed at the state of the series
it's the same exact model as in Skyrim
which means there's a lot of dead nords laying around 23rd century Boston
You'd be pissed to if you stuck being a glorified asset in that shitty game instead of dabbing on the measly fleshbags like a real skeleton should.
>oh my god look at that ENVIRONMENTAL STORYTELLING!!!!!!
If I remember correctly the second you bump into it the skeleton just ragdolls and the rope stays there all stiff.
woah trans representation
>some unknown reason nobody made another first person open world game aside from one small dead studio
The formula of Bethesda open word games, just works. I can’t believe not one fricking studio has made a better clone of any of their concepts. I would do anything for a first person open world fantasy RPG that’s not elder scrolls. So many possibilities but they settle for making mods for Skyrim instead. It’s been over 10 fricking years and not one game has come out to compete with Skyrim. It’s unreal.
It's very hard to make, tu have it kade with modern graphics you need a big fricking team, an engine that allows it, etc etc.
not very hard. most of skyrim graphics are pretty low-poly. the problem is the sheer amount of work that goes into making a video game, let alone an open-world RPG.
its entirely because of how tedious it is. After you make all the assets, record all the dialog, compose all the music, etc., it just becomes a several YEAR long game of dragging and dropping the assets into the world until you have a reasonably complete game.
>It’s been over 10 fricking years and not one game has come out to compete with Skyrim. It’s unreal.
that's because people vastly underestimate the amount of effort that goes into these games
it's easy to judge finished products like skyrim or fallout 4 on a surface level, but when you sit down and actually try to replicate that you run into so many "oh boy, how am I going to solve this?" moments, you start to realize and appreciate how much effort goes into these games
the speed at which these games are made of course heavily hinge on the tools the engine has, which yet again requires more time to create - you need to create the tools to create the content, and you can't create content efficiently/quickly without having the right tools
Ganker is quick to shit on games because <1% here has game dev experience
because nobody care not should he care how prodicts are made
Besides, black isle remnants made the best rpg of at least two decades in 19 months, and also had a better world than fallout 3
Amd bethesda itself made Far harbor, that had alot of what was missing from the main game
Bethesda main game design philosophy of "make it stimple stupid" and mmo-style quests and gameplay loops is cancer
todd's vision for procedurally generated everything is ironically what the elder scrolls was intended to be before morrowind overhauled the formula and made everything static.
Contrary to popular belief the TES games before Morrowind also had a static world. They were procedurally generated but only once and then the same version of the world was shipped out to every player. The only things that were ever dynamic at runtime were enemy and item spawns and quests and Toddles kept dynamic enemies and items and brought back dynamic quests with Skyrim. What he says is he true goal is "dynamic stories". He doesn't want to write a linear main quest or anything. What he wants is to create a sandbox that is so dynamic and feature filled it basically lets the player make their own main quest, e.g. "You see that kingdom? You can conquer it and become king. See that empty space? You can build a town and become mayor. Etc., etc."
I like this honestly, the idea of dynamic story events is cool but loses 10 out of 10 times to a well-written narrative.
Stuff like this is better left for sandbox MMOs like SS13, or something like subrosa.
Dynamic stories are better told by human beings, a vast set of individual events are better written by a machine.
Dungeons were procedurally generated in Arena. Sometimes that the exit to the dungeons were inaccessible to the player.
Doesn't matter how hard it is to make, if the product doesn't hit the right notes it's not good. Think about the concept of a videogame for a moment. It's all about creating an illusion and if you can't get that illusion to stick it ceases to be.
This is why shit like Elden Ring which did fairly well for an open world game didn't get a perfect score.
By the third deathbird fight I'm realizing I am repeating content, the illusion is broken.
Kys. Elden Ring is the best video game ever made.
Wait, what?
Yes.
Wait, what?
nobody can, only "body type b"
thanks todd
How can people force themselves to play F76? Removing mods is like 80% of the game, you cannot kill NPCs and there aren't any interesting stories the pvp is a gutted mess and nerfed because of cry babies
Its just a hollow vulgar decoration where you walk around and shoot stuff with fallout 4's mechanics, i guiess its for homosexuals for whom brand name is enough and the rest they fill with cope
At this point even fallout 3 looks good(in comparison)
Why did video games decided they hated contrast?
What, you don't like magic enchanted elder scrolls guns and a shitty parody world of fallout?
Are you some kind of troony?
in 76 they have a fricking giant SLOTH
Its some fuking ninja turtles level shit
Whether radscrops were a result of FEV or not is actually an ancient holywar and Avellone's Bible is not canon.
for extra fun, look up ghouls
the basic mechanics of ghouls were never explained even as far back as fo1.
There was an internal argument in BIS, with some thinking ghouls are a result of FEV and others thinking they're rad only.
Also remember that Harold is NOT a ghoul.
I personally don't really like "FEV did everything" approach, it's an unnecessary attempt at realism. I like that radiation in Fallout works unrealistically, like it's a nuclear scare age movie. And then you add semi-realistic politics on top on unrealistic physics.
i mean basic shit like the ghoul life cycle. we know they're supposed to turn feral eventually but the process is never shown or explained and there's a bunch of pre-war ghouls running around with seemingly no negative effects from their age.
A scientist in fo1 straight up says that radiation alone couldn't mutate creatures like that.
How can it be more canon than that?
It's radioactive gigantism though? And it affects mammals differently than bugs and reptiles, that's why there are no giant humans or dogs or bears.
Calm down, schizo. I'm just trying out some coomer mods aka CBBE.
Off-topic but do any of you know how to cap fallout 4 to 60fps in .ini files? I can't be arsed to constantly cap the fps in nvidia control panel.
Use rtss or enb. Or download the high fps fix and not worry about it
Cheers
I wonder how many kids there are nowadays that feel completely fine towards Fallout 4 because they started on it and so they don't really have the context to hate it, like I did with Fallout 3.
Hopefully Fallout 5 will just be a linear FPS campaign for Fallout 4 zoomers can get the true fallout experience.
>impying it wont be a fullyy auto-generated dayz/rust clone where you play as vault boy
The same amount as those who felt fine with NV because people online praised even though it's legitimately shit.
Fallout 3 was my first game. I loved it at the time, but the only other RPG I had played at that point was pokemon.
New Vegas is the best, not even debatable.
The amount of seethe that went into that image
Fallout 3 is a direct sequel to BoS, not only in quality level but even in lore if i remember correctly
And fallout new vegas takes off after fallout 2 with ncr and enclave remnants as well as follows its game design philosophy, (unlike bethesdacrap) so this pic can not be closer to reality.
>Defending gay propaganda
this homosexual is trying to derail this thread
don't respond to bethesdashill
I actually kinda like shelter as a time waster. But yeah 4 and 76 is just a huge waste of time for everyone
fukken saved
I started with 3 then NV then 1 and 2 and 50% of tactics
I think all fallout are good, but yeah, bethesda fallout for some reason i like less than original team's
biggest reason probably is because they fricked up with pacing, i dont really give a shit about my dad or my son, 10 minutes or so into the game
yeah the older games did similar things but the "main quest" was not really the main focus, but the world itself and the side quests
i think this is what is missing in 3 and 4, they focused too much on a main quest and expected you to care about it above all else
frick 76 with its moronic clown humor
>they focused too much on a main quest and expected you to care about it above all else
Maybe for 3 but 4 has plenty of shit to do outside the main quest, even up to when you've picked a faction.
fallout 4 has like 10 quests, and 9 of them are about killing raiders ghouls or mutants
By the way, what the frick is a "raider"? in new vegas there are ceratin gangs that operate in certain areas, in bethesdacrap they are just wildlife that appears out of nowhere and outnumbers humans 1000 to 1
And supermutans had no business being exclusively moronic orcs or having such great numbers there. and no i dont buy their cheap justification about intitute just shitting them out for lulz
uh...they are just random bandits dude
thats all there is to them really
>fallout 4 has like 10 quests, and 9 of them are about killing raiders ghouls or mutants
I've played around 200 hours so far and I haven't done a single quest related to the main mission. Such a good game.
i 100% the whole game including dlc' in 78 hours, what the frick you were doing there?
Playing on a higher difficulty than you
hardcore?
Ya gotta. You literally must or you haven't played Fallout 4
Hardcore is fun but not being able to fast-travel is kind of AIDS.
Not being able to fast travel or quicksave completely changed the game for me, it became truly dangerous to explore and forced me to play it like an actual survival experience, it was the missing bit of desperation and challenge that I felt was missing from NV's hardcore expert mode
Or just be a console gay
>coc Slogext
>walking around
>bump into a car
>die
>lose 5 hours of exploration progress
truly a kino experience
I'm at 70 hours and I've done all the side quests I can possibly do for the time being. I was independent until I figured it was time to join a faction and only the Brotherhood of Steel makes sense and I'm already out of quests for them. The only thing I can do is resume the main quest again.
Lol the nuka-world dlc is absolute epitome of that. It literally consists of 3 quests. Enslave a random NPC, kill some homosexuals or protect your raider gang.
>nuka-world
don't you mean Minuteman: Raider edition?
nuka world is what bethesda sees fallout as:
Vulgar, colorful, attraction park shooter with less writing and thought out lore than some porn movies had
As a result we have fallout 76
Far harbor is a fricking anomaly, it somehow actually tries to be fallout in all its aspects and brings new things whithout fricking over the stting
I concur about far harbour. Also, what's funny about nuka world is that every npc is just a reskin of an old one.
>muh nuka-lurks, broooooooo
>Far harbor is a fricking anomaly
I remember finishing Far Harbor and going "That wasn't awful"
Then I got to Nuka World and wished I did that dlc first
I thought the same thing about the Gunners. Who the frick is hiring these top of the line mercs. The only settlement is fricking Diamond City. The rest is just a scattering of 2-3 useless fricks that can't even clean up their living space or "raiders" and super mutants. The internal consistency of this game is like the role-playing, non-existent.
>in bethesdacrap they are just wildlife that appears out of nowhere and outnumbers humans 1000 to 1
They're gangs in Fallout 4 too. You just don't have a silly names and themes like it's The Warriors or something until the DLC. They actually fight amongst each other too. For example, there's one raider gang occupying a food stockpile and another raider gang kidnaps the leader's sister because they want the food stockpile. Depending on the order in which you destroy the raider gangs you find different results. For example, if you kill the kidnappers first your find out they accidentally killed the sister and they're wondering how the hell they're going to extort the other gang now but if you kill the gang that had the sister kidnapped and go to the kidnappers gang second they don't care the sister is dead now because they talk about how someone already knocked off the other gang, that would be the player, and now the stockpile is free for the taking.
troony Vegas has nothing like this sort of world building and interaction at all. FO4 > troony Vegas.
yeah, this isnt a quest or in world even, this is a fricking teminal text, in the world itself they are ambigious dudes with guns that just wait in building to shoot the player.
They never speak and live in five feet from supermitand camp and ten feet from another raider infested building, making bullets from metal tablesm, eating their comrades and drinking their piss i assume
they make no fricking sense in the context of the world
Do you not know what the word "raider" means? Did you not speak to any of the settlers in the game who talk extensively about being RAIDED by RAIDERS who steal their food and water all the time? Did you not hear about how the raiders do things like charge tolls for safe passage? Did you not notice all the crafting tables in the raider settlements? Are you pretending to be stupid as a troll or has the HRT really completely broken your brain?
as i said, there are unironically a thousand more raiders than people in this game, they are never interactable and 90% of them are just "raiders"
and there is also a bit of mafia larpers and gunners who are mercs but for some reason work for no one who could actually pay them
In new vegas gunners would have had a role in the world, reputatuion meter, different matters of interactions, faction specific camps, means of interactions and quests, in fallout 4 they are just a stronger raider(tm)
Where are the reputation meters for Vipers, Jackals, or Escaped Convicts
>Inb4 NCRCF
Those are Powder Gangers, which are escaped convicts but they aren't "Escaped Convicts".
The only raiders in FONV that even remotely are good is the Fiends because they're actually a group and have a main base and have a bunch of named NPCs. But even then, does Vault 3 have reputation system? I'm pretty sure it doesn't. The only raiders you can actually interface with in the game are Caesar's Legion
And in NV there's infinite Jackals and Vipers. No matter how many times I kill them they keep coming back.
>work for no one who could actually pay them
Are you fricking stupid? Did you even play the game?
>different matters of interactions
Oh, yeah. My favorite part of troony vegas was when I aligned myself with the Jackals and discovered there was a whole new world of interactions and quests I was unaware of.
You fricking moron.
So are the Vipers, Jackals, Convicts, etc.
Don't raiders and animals and shit attack Settlements in FO4?
you think i'am moronic enough to actually spend a second on settlemets?
but from what i have heard their attacks and interactions with settlers are stupid and immersion breaking
that is indeed a step up for 4, actually i have the most hours put into 4 because of mods and tons of content outside of the main quest but i still think original team's are the best with 2 being overall the best fallout experience
>4 has plenty
with no depth or interaction. nothing that ties into the gameworld in anyway. just endless filler.
I'm 28, New Vegas is THE zoomer game of the hour. Fallout 4 is one of the best survival FPS games ever made, and New Vegas is on the worst engine ever created, with the worst combat of all time, and the story is utter trash written by gamers just like every other Fallout game.
I unironically hope you die.
I hope YOU die you homosexual fricking b***h, you literally think you're a genius because you played New Vegas. You think this genuinely and without a shred of irony or humor, think that this makes your opinion above anyone else's.
Black person, I have 130 MENSA tested IQ.
New Vegas is better than whatever bethesda dogshit you like.
Pathetic. Get some perspective.
>think that this makes your opinion above anyone else's.
not everyone, just you and your ilk
kek, real chads would not be wasting their time making hate threads.
240 hours in and i'm still in the middle of the nuka world quest. maybe try exploring instead of rushing the main quest.
>mods
nice try
move on then. but of course that won't happen, you will be here seething forever, living on todds shadow. see you in fallout 5.
100% means 100% of the map and quests
moving on from anything is a cuckold's way, no wonder its so popular to propagate nowdays
>Fallout
>survival FPS
"Yes, the car i bought moves one mile per hour but at least it has a good air conditioner so its fine"
It’s the same engine.
Don't forget to redeem the card next time sir
Fallout 4 sold less than skyrim and people don't care about it anymore.
The Fallout IP is deader than the sex lives of every anon here combined. Nobody cares anymore.
I started on Fo4, and after 100% it, I tried to get into New Vegas but the janky outdated combat keeps putting me off.
I played fallout 4 and it's dlcs first and have been disappointed with every other fallout game besides New Vegas. I don't understand the hate at all, but also don't really care enough to try.
If you ever wanted to watch boomers run through the five stages of guilt over the last two decades then you should pop on over to NMA. They still haven't gotten over Fallout 3 being a thing.
FRICK YOU TODD
i played 1 then 2 then 3 then new vegas then 4
the only ones worth playing are 1 and 4, the rest of the series is crap
>It's another Obsidiangay crying about Bethesda thread
Shouldn't you chucklefricks be praising Fallout the Frontier?
>but muh frontier
It was made by antifa leftist troons who think fallout 76 is the best fallout game.
Commit sudoku.
>who think fallout 76 is the best fallout game
Why do you have to revise history?
Frontier is based it excellently supplied incredible material for my young girl slave fetish and its VOICED at that, can't get any better man good shit
fallout frontier is ultimate bethesda fallout you moron.
>Railroading
>Raped lore
>moronic writing
>Plagiarizing
I don't remember Fallout 3 introducing gays, or shitting on Republicans.
yeah, i too don't remember fallout 3 having any kind of meaning, no matter right or wrong, put into it at all
>I don't remember Fallout 3 introducing gays
You can see the only gay character in Fallout 3 when the screen turns black and you see your own reflection
That was mean, bruh.
Yet it was made by people who loved classic fallout.
Wasn't the Frontier in production before Fallout New Vegas was even out? Or was that New California? I forget.
>Shouldn't you chucklefricks be praising Fallout the Frontier?
You mean the game who's leads never played New Vegas before and who's most of the devs are F3gays?
I want New Vegas only babies to leave.
>Fallout 4 is one of the best survival FPS games ever made
At least coomer mods are okay-ish on that game.
when people talk about bethesda game coomer mods, do they literally just mean screenshot simulators? Or are they actually complimenting the bottom barrel tier animation collections that modders throw together?
Its where Fallout died as an RPG. Fallout 4 was a great base building game.
Ah yes Fallout NV dialogue, a gem of inspiration and game design:
>blah blah blah (yes)
>blah blah blah (no)
>series of questions that lead back to above choices after expository dialogue
>frick you (fail quest)
Truly grandiose, high-quality writing. The best part of all is the final choice, which is exactly the same fricking one as FO3 except behind walls of text so it's ok this time.
You are literally the gayest human that ever lived.
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
With dialogue options this similar I could have almost mistaken it for New Vegas but there is no ugly piss filter over it.
>but there is no ugly piss filter over it.
Correct, everything else about Fallout 4 is shit though.
Meeting Vulpes for the first time:
>I'll do what you want
>you're evil
>questions that loop back to "you're evil" and "i'll do what you want"
It's the exact same but with more text, so get fricked.
So what else do you want. A "you're a Black person" dialogue option?
>So what else do you want. A "you're a Black person" dialogue option?
Yes
No.
>can agree to spread rumors of legion atrocities
>can disagree
>can call him out on what he's done
So yes, no and fluff dialogue that goes back to yes and no?
>didn't get mugged by the entire group because he said mean words
What other option it needs?
"I want ot suck your dick legion daddy"?
I think the best part of this dialogue is your character is essentially the same age yet is incredulous that someone else could be as well
>talk yur way in a manner YOUR character would that is reoleplay>pass a special skillcheck that YOUR charcter has/fail it because your unique character is ingorant or incapable in that subject>navigate conversaion further because skillcheck dosent always solve everything
Along the way sometimes your manner of speaking can among other things antagonise person you are talking with whithout any idication but common sense
Just one example, best rpg
Failing skill checks is gay as frick. I prefer the dice rolls from Fallout 3, unironically.
yes, unironically high quality writing and game design indeed
what the frick is writing you moron? people write words for stories and put them into games for worldbuilding and you are supposed to read it
if you dont want to read, then why the frick do you play fallout? call of dogshit or nbafifamadden is over that way
you must be the biggest moron ive seen this week
>if you dont want to read, then why the frick do you play fallout?
That holds true exclusively for Fallout 1 and 2 and I'm tired of homosexuals pretending NV is even close to them just because every major character has a fricking exposition monologue.
1>NV>2
I would say NV>1>2
because NV has a faction system and 3d first person onen world what is a perfect game for an immersive rpg
New Vegas is better in pretty much every way, sure. I think 1 has the best world, atmosphere and tone though. Also those sprite graphics are pure soul.
>1 has the best setting and atmosphere
>2 has the better freedom for letting you drive a car, gamble, be a caravan guard, pornstar, slaver or just a wanderer who goes around hunting muties.
Still surprised there isn't a more open-ended experience where you can choose a starting faction to just go around doing repeatable shit and generally living in the wastes as a nobody.
NV really is the kid's choice holy shit
sharing eyes with protagonist is more immersive than hovering above, its is a fricking fact, screw over yourself
B-BUT NEW VEGAS HAS EPIC SEXIST MAN WHO ENSLAVES PIPOOOO
76 has a number of problems, but it's unironically a better game than 4 now and i'm tired of pretending it's not
doubling down on "acid in the eye" visual style alone makes it worse
here is what you have to do in order to make good open world games
have items on tables and floor and give us the ability to pick them up and move them around
Also, lets not forget that bethesda made two cities(second is under ground lol), one ultra small town, one millitary base, and one tiiiny camp and called it a day with civilized lands, leaving everything else either as a shooting zone or hollow place with nameless nobodies to build shitty minekampf houses from trash there
Freeside plus strip is bigger and more alive place than all fallout 4 settlements combined
>post-apocalyptic world that was devastated by nukes and now has abominations roaming around as well as gangs of bandits and degenerates
>most of humanity wiped out and most tech is salvaged from scraps of pre-war shit
>should be bustling with big cities and large settlements, hotels, casinos and so on
Frick you're right. Why not a cruise ship, some raves and music festivals would be nice too. Maybe some festivals or even radscorpion races with a racing minigame.
Fallout 2 already had normal non-cap currency and big cities, Fallout new vegas had several currecies and country-like enteties, Van burren was about to have cities with public transport and wage workers
Fallout had a contrast of barren wild wasteland and civilization raising its head being near each other
If you think fallout is mainly a murderhobo in the middle of nowhere: the game you are reatard
>obsidiantroony thread
>'ate me twitter screencaps
>unless they post something I agree with
Is there a map flag?
Here's another popular mod with the bethesda community.
Bethesda even agreed so much that they made a game about black people in space.
>elianora
what a homosexual
>63k views
>2k unique downloads
kek yes very popular
Woah, 15K downloads for a game that sold over 20 million units and has mods on console, I’m literally going insane.
Ok troony
>still forcing this shit
>still visiting twitter
I'm going to commission twitter artists to portray men becoming trannies after playing your favorite game and then spread it here so any mention of them is polluted forever.
why is the wolf upset
Fallout 4 > Fallout 1 > Fallout 3
The rest are garbage, if you reply I'll know you're trolling
The only reason you would want to play 4 is for its gunplay. And 76 does that better. If you want a Fallout you have NV 1 and 2, still I will always fail the Legion cause the dog man literally was asking to get beaten with a club after telling a dude that looked that could strangle a deathclaw "you arent strong and a pussy"
>If you want a Fallout you have 1 and 2
Agreed
>The only reason you would want to play 4 is for its gunplay.
It's not even good to justify it.
it’s easily the best in the series though
I mean sure but if someone want to play a shooter, there's like bagillion of better shooters than Fallout.
Maybe if they didn't half-assed it like they do everything else, it could be justified but in its current state, you might as well play another game if you want good gunplay.
I tried to play modded Fallout 4 as a mindless shooter recently and the crashes made it unplayable. Every other Bethesda game can be made crash-free but apparently not Fallout 4.
Why is it that NVgays can never argue honestly? they always just cherrypick the worst elements or portions of other games, ignore everything else, then pair it against the best portions of NV? The impression it gives is that they've played nothing other than NV so they made up this faction war bs to appear superior when in fact they just like it because it's the one game they played.
You've got mental problems, m8. All of your arguments are in bad faith
And yours aren't? Just look at shit like
or
where he literally admits to shit writing in the game yet still puts it alongside games praised for good writing.
>HURR NEW VEGAS troony GAIM!
>post screenshots about how troony and blm leftist freak shit have a million endorsements on f4 nexus, when they'd just get made fun of until XIR kills xeself on new vegas nexus
>this enrages the bethesdrone
I never posted anything about NV being for trannies, and the whole point was that you claimed others didn't argue in good faith so what do you go and do? you prove me right with that shitpost. So not only are you a hypocrite, you're a moron as well.
Every fricking internet corner is now filled with trannies. It's actually ludicrous.
they are just part of current thing
>replies to a post that's replying to a post being done in bad faith
>im such a victim, please take pity on me
lol
has he really tweeted that? my sides, i hate the antichrist
>i hate the antichrist
Eschatologically based.
I wish COVID or the vaccine had pruned that many geriatric fricks out of the economy
Only good portion of falout 4 is "far harbor"
We arent cherrypicking, we just rightfully think that mainline fallout should answer to standards expected from fallout and not DayZ
Far harbor with Nick as a companion is literally better than all of 3 and NV with all their DLC included, so I'd say it's a fair trade.
>Why is it that NVgays can never argue honestly?
Because they know they're lying. How does China feed its citizens lies? Through bombardment of the lie on people until you believe it despite your better judgment. We've all played New Vegas and we all know exactly what it is, so they have to tell you your entire perception of reality is wrong, this leads to them saying absolute nonsense lies because reality no longer has hold of the discussion
name what fallout 4 did even slightly better than fallout new vegas or frick off with your non arguments
The gameplay is actually good. Sure the story is shit but so is New Vegas if your IQ is above 60.
fallout 4 really is an appalling game, it’s got as much roleplaying as a borderlands game
if the gunplay wasn’t good it would probably be one of the worst games i’ve ever played
>there are people out there thinking fallout was serious franchise
lmao , bethesda is just doing what intersex was doing but instead with mtx
>has jokes
>turned into a joke
yeah, nothing changed
moron
Oh another nostalgiagay here let me remind you both intersex games.
>There are orcs but they are made out of magic radiation
>There is this robott mutant thing its made out of magic radiation
>There are these magicans and they are made out of magic radiation
>There are smart zombies and they are made out of magic radiation too
>There is this medieval brotherhood and they are using mechs and worshipping technology
>oh also there is nazis too have fun
What a realistic,grim and dark game I shidded and farted
and all of it was handled in a serious manner and worked
Did you play fallout 2? Seriously? Anyone who likes New Vegas because of muh deep and gritty plot and shits on fallout 4 because of their humor is a moron. Even the billy the kid in the fridge which gets shit on so often is just a callback to a ghoul who was stuck inside a coffin for months at a time and survived in fallout 2. Fallout 2 and fallout 4 are the closest in grim humor, and fallout 2 is the best fallout game when it comes to player agency and dialogue options.
Holy shit, that twitter profile pic for Jarrett Johnston is perfect. It couldn't possibly better encompass his misplaced smug autism.
Meanwhile Pete Hines looks like a cool laid back dude. I'd want to drink a beer with him and listen to him make fun of NVtrannies.
He's right tough. Shit writing is still shit writing.
yea but after turning 30 something you should care less and less how good the writing in some video game is.
what should he care about then?
Providing for his family and being a productive well adjusted member of society
pete hines' horrible writing and todd's obsession with making an offline mmo ruined fallout 4 and series as a whole
>pete hines' horrible writing
Pete Hines is not a writer. He's doesn't have any creative role whatsoever. He's not part of any development team for any game. You NVtrannies are so fricking moronic. You don't have a clue what you are talking about.
go be a baiting gay somewhere else
>baiting
Everything I said is true. Pete Hines is a marketing VP. His job is things like budgeting marketing campaigns. He doesn't write for video games, you fricking idiot. he doesn't write anything ever. Literally what happened here is some random moronic autist started harassing some guy who works at Bethesda but has nothing to do with making games about the "realism" of Fallout 4 and that guy rightly told the autist "I don't give a shit about this crap. Frick off, autist."
ah, frick, i always mix emil and pete, point still stands, emil ruined fallout 4 and simmilar attitude defenetly had a place
Behavour you normalgay reatard call "autistic" is the right way to treat a big fictional universe, pete is incompetent and you are a dumbass, go watch some netflix adaptation
>pete hines' horrible writing
you mean pagliarulo's horrible writing
dude's MO is basically "people are gonna frick around with whatever story I make so why even bother"
guy's in the wrong business seriously
>stuck for months at a time
>stuck for 200 years
Months? Years? What does it matter when realistically you're dead in days? You're basically saying "MY MADE UP SCI-FI MAGIC IS REALISTIC BUT YOUR MADE UP SCI-FI MAGIC IS SILLY!"
established lore is how you're satisfied through immersion, brainlet
ghouls need to eat and breathe, at the very least the kid wouldn't be going umm h-helloo? at every footstep for 200 years, it's just pants on head stupid and you're a foolish ass Black person for taking up for it
They don't need to eat or breathe though, established lore from fallout 2 has a ghoul called coffin Willie that was buried alive for an extended period of time that the chosen one can dig up. He walks off totally fine. Just accept that you're a zoomer who played New Vegas and now thinks that he's a classic fallout gamer and can now shit on fallout 4 enjoyers because of that.
they absolutely do need not only to eat, but to drink, you just googled that goofy quest and ignored a part of the main one yet have the audacity to call people zoomers
They just have higher survivability and slower metabolism
Worse then, you're just one of the guys who ignores the fact that fallout is also a parody series and only cares about muh dark grimness. I know what main quest you're referencing where the ghouls don't have clean water or some bullshit but even more established lore just has ghouls sitting in a trash heap in a subway or buried in a pile of dirt for extended periods of time just to go and jump a player character. Add in the buried ghoul, the coffin ghoul, and billy and it's pretty clear that the fallout game devs think that ghouls don't need to eat.
yes, that's how fictional shit works, it operates on its own rules, you perobably one of those morons who think fireballs justryfy literally any bullshit in a story because fireballs dont exist
>It's fantasy it doesn't need to be believable or consistent!
Months isn't believable either, you fricking idiot. That's the point.
some people here would suffocate themselves if the were smart enough to understand that trannies also breathe air someties
mad
good luck dying
Trannies already suffocate themselves
with that reading comprehension you're a stone's throw away from being smart enough to do what that anon said
You aren't bright, huh?
How can trannies breath if they're killing themselves?
but fallout 76 is totally fine bro I love dailies and designing an epic camp, this is totally fallout to the core
>wears panties
>wears daisy dukes
>bush still clipping through
Why? Do coomers have no standards?
HATE NEWSPAPERS
Fallout 4 isn't a "bad" game.
It just the current bland Bethesda product to sell to normies.
They buy it on launch, play it for 20 hours max, tell all their friends and co-works how this is the best game ever and how they have to own it.
This repeats 3/4 times per year for all the big normieslop releases
What the frick are you talking about schizo
Why are you replying to your own posts?
:0
New Vegas is fricking boring, boring quests boring characters and boring ass desert, anyone saying otherwise is lying.
filtered zoomer: the post
take a break from tik tok and try it again
I literally enjoyed playing DAGGERFALL more than new Vegas, nv is a depressing game that feels like a fallout 3 mod instead of an actual new game.
>I literally enjoyed playing DAGGERFALL
Nice backpedaling, go back to tik tok
>backpedaling
You don't even know what that means lmao, pretty sure the average tik tok moron is smarter than you.
>feels like a fallout 3 mod instead of an actual new game.
That's mostly because Bethesda didn't give Obsidian access to the Gamebryo source code until late in development. Even when they eventually did the engine is probably such a spaghettified mess it's fall apart the moment you change it.
You probably heard this totally true piece of knowledge from a fat bearded søyfaces YouTuber who has NO idea what they're talking about.
>That's mostly because Bethesda didn't give Obsidian access to the Gamebryo source code until late in development
You literally just made this up.
Obsidian can't with game coding and can't stop getting sidetracked be stupid shit.
>I literally enjoyed watching paint dry more than fallout 3, f3 is a depressing game that feels like a new vegas mod instead of an actual new game.
You know someone is a moron when he immediately leaps to the "Yeah? Well I think I'm older than you so I win!" defense. It's a big favorite of the sorts of morons that like Obsidian under the delusional belief they make "intelligent games for intelligent gamers" when really they just make moronic media for morons.
>t.
F76 is a great Loot Shooter dont try to drag others into your negativity cult
>negativity cult
GO BACK
Sure is samegay in here.
Same place in fallout 3 and fallout 76
Everryone who defends new art direction is a certified moron
>i dont like it so NOBODY ELSE is allowed to like it
This is why i hate People
this is never going to change, that's why consistency and separation is important, fallout should always be dark, gritty and gloomy, so people who like this particular style could have consistent sourse of content they like, and fortnite, or whatever you shit eating zoomies are playing should awyas be colorful ans minimalistic, for morons liek you to have something colorful and primitive
>xyz should always be
yes
Mom there is black person in my game plsss halp they are forcing diversity on meee nooo I’m used games to be 100% white nooo things cannot change nooo Trump halp we are getting genocized
go leave
this is impolite and autistic discussion but it is about audiences and art, not your colored people
>Everyone who defends xzy is a
also yes
I think it works for shit like Nuka World.
yeah, it works for a location that should have never existed in a fallout game in the manner it did
I'm well past caring how RPG truthers perceive Fallout 4. Fact is, you all sabotaged your own credibility when you crowned The Witcher 3, a game that has FEWER dialogue choices and consequential outcomes and less player choice in just about every way, as an 'amazing revolutionary RPG'. Don't try to walk it back now, if RPG mechanics were REALLY what you cared about most that never should have happened.
Let's be really fricking honest. The "hardcore RPG" fandom is ironically extremely superficial in their assessments of the genre. You don't care about roleplay or mechanical depth. You think you do, but then you go around and anoint games because they have a stat for nosepicking even if that skill has like 3 skill checks across the entire game. I don't know if it's because you're all lying about thoroughly playing these games or you're all just THAT stupid when it comes to evaluating mechanical depth.
>a game that has FEWER dialogue choices and consequential outcomes and less player choice in just about every way
Tell me you haven't played The Witcher 3 without actually telling me.
Go back and try to playthrough a different route. You can't. It is 100% a linear game that will sporadically acknowledge you did something in cutscenes.
who are "we" you fricking moron?
Everybody who are actually familliar with RPG understood that witcher wasnt a 100% rpg
your theory is just bullshit
Yet still witcher had the most detailed and unique quests in the history of gaming with actual choices that affect things, for some reason that didnt translated to fallout 4, you know why? because your theory is, again, BULLSHIT
Here's the ultimate difference between TW3 and FO4:
* Bloody Baron is a main quest that everyone thinks is a side quest = illusion of choice
* When Freedom Calls and the entire Minute Men questline is a side quest that everyone thinks is a main quest = actual fricking choice
For whatever reason RPG don't recognize a "choice" unless the game slaps them on the face with a dialogue prompt. And they consider a choice "consequential" if it basically just amounts to "choose a cutscene".
>mutts letting trannies live in his head rent free all the fricking while actual trannies couldn't give less of a frick about them
The absolute state of Am*ricans
dont be a gay
go play 76
its a kino game
suck a dick todd
Bethesda is like a cool friend that farts at the worst moment and embarrasses you, despite being apologetic. Or he spills a drink in his lap and then everything goes wrong. You just want to slap them and say Wtf man? Jesus.
Would Fallout 76 be worth it as a solo experience where you don't care for the base building and just want to go around exploring?
Asking for myself.
depends on how low your standards are, if you liked fallout 4 you can give it a shot, but be aware that it is a fallout game in nothing but names, not visually, not in lore and of course not in gameplay it has anything to do with this series
Pretty damn low at the moment. Fallout-like aesthetics and interesting locations to explore.
How necessary is the base building though?
It isn't beyond wanting a spot just to house your containers. but most of the "content" is based around it so
>Only reason bethesda is still relevant is because for some unknown reason nobody made another first person open world game aside from one small dead studio
? It's a very open secret that studio who made Kingdom Come is currently working on the sequel
how the frick could i forget about kingdom come
i deserve to be lashed
Fallout 4 has better gameplay and better gore and ragdoll physics. vats is also better.
I dont give a frick about the rest.
then stop playing fallout you gay
why?
because this is last things falluot is about, its like playing counter stike for lore
why would he stop playing fallout if he likes the things it offers?
i wish all of you airbags for shitty developers would die so they would be forced to make quality games again insted of adding pew pew boom boom and neon colors so normagays whithout standards would buy it up
Anon, you're delusional. Normalgays don't play Fallout. The minority that do, love New Vegas and think the rest of the games are worse and won't touch 1, 2 or 76.
New Vegas is the normie starter game. If they aren't filtered by it, they might play the janky-er FO3 or 4 because they want more New Vegas.
Then the normies that aren't filtered by those games will probably try Fo1 and 2.
And the hardcore autistic Fallout fans will play 76 just for more Bethesda gameplay loop.
fallout 3 and 4 are normie entry points, and 76 is a whale farm that has probably less to do with fallout than the last jedi with star wars
And NV-gays are always called "elitists" that is bad in normalgay places, because everyone's tastes and different but not better, yeah, shure.
I started with second game but ended up liking first a bit more, then came NV
No, they aren't. You're really out of touch with reality. E-celeb's everywhere shill New Vegas. Most normies wouldn't even know FO3 or 4 exist before playing New Vegas.
>And NV-gays are always called "elitists"
By Bethesda fans, who aren't normalgays...
bethesda gay is a normalgay as far as iam concerned, both a shit eating morons who cant grasp anything more than pew pew and bright colors
You say this while having the most normalgay opinion ever
Most e-celeb's shit on Bethesda fallouts. Hell a lot of anti-bethesdagays just parrot Internet Historian or crowbcats or hbomberguy.
When they're not shitting on Bethesda, they're sucking off Obsidian and Black Isle.
Not to mention most fans of Fallout 3 and 4 also appreciate New Vegas at least and some even like the isometric Fallout games.
Bethesda fans are true Fallout fans usually.
>Most e-celeb's shit on Bethesda fallouts
Have you stopped to think that there's a reason for this beyond your weird theory that there's some sinister conspiracy to ruin the image of a soulless billion dollar company like bethesda?
if think fallout 4 or 76 belongs to the franchise you are not a true fallout fan, plain and simple
Can you give me a single good reason why they shouldn't be?
>inb4 different genre
Persona 4 Arena, Persona dancing, and Persona Q are all different genres to Persona and it's still part of the series.
MGSV and Peacewalker and Metal Gear Rising are all very different to the rest of the Metal Gear series. Yet they are all canon and considered part of the franchise.
>inb4 they're bad
even if you're right, that doesn't make them not an entry in the main seroest
>made by different company
old fallout and new Vegas are made by different companies too.
I doubt they scrapped any tbh.
>different genre
From rpg to fricking looter shooter online/offline mmo
>lore fricked over
too long to explain, but its easy to google
>vusuals and tone are opposite of estabished ones
Looks plastic, colorful and cheeful, while fallout is dark, gloomy and gritty(like pic related)
>themes are the opposite of established ones
from satirising fascist ultraconsumerist corrporate america they drown in nostalgia for pre war time.
And insted of growing civilization what was the clearly seen process across 1>2>NV contrasted with barren wastelands we get a trashed land of murderhobos with few small islands of humans who can talk
what is even left from original fallout but name and a bunch of misunderstood concepts bethesda swing around?
And if you think it somehow belongs with the rest it clearly says you never knrew what fallout is and thus not a true fan.
>From rpg to fricking looter shooter online/offline mmo
Doesn't matter. Persona went from JRPG to dating sim with JRPG elements. Fallout went from ISOrpg to shooter with RPG elements.
>>lore fricked over
Doesn't matter. Persona 3-5 frick over the established persona lore
and tone are opposite of estabished ones
is the tone even different from established ones?
i mean only fo1 was really bleak.
But still does not matter.
Persona 1 and 2 were pretty creepy and dark with a little comedic relief. very dreamlike too. yet Persona 3 onward are still Persona games
>from satirising fascist ultraconsumerist corrporate america they drown in nostalgia for pre war time.
but Bethesda fallout is as satirical of "fascist ultra consumerist corporate America", if not more satirical. i urge you, pirate fallout 4 and just look through all the notes and terminals. the companies are even more blatantly evil and incompetent.
>clearly seen process across 1>2>NV
this point is moronic. Civilizations grow at different rates. It makes sense for it to grow in 1, 2, and NV since they take place in the same setting. Bethesda's fallouts take place in a different location, under different conditions.
As I recall correctly, the writers of the original Fallout games wanted to plunge them back into apocalypse anyway and think the civilized shit from Nu Vegas and 2 is dogshit.
If you place such a high value on a fricking video game franchise that you would even care to think something like that you are mentally unsound, plain and simple.
my autism dosent make me wrong you shithead
Well, that sounds like a seething concession to me, anon.
based todd for keeping all the nv trannies seething.
>bro Bethesda fallout sucks
>*Makes Fallout New Vegas*
>Old Fallout is better
>Interplay makes picrel
and bethesda made a sequel to it
>is nothing like BoS
>le sequel guise
delusional nmatroon
Why do the textures in FO4 look so washed out and just overall uncanny?
The minutejoggers killed Fallout 4. Building settlements is probably one of the most tedious mechanics known to mankind. Like, not even joking, settlement building in FO4 somehow feels far worse than playing dice in DMC4.
and they scrapped god knows how many potential handcrafted settlements with actual npc's for this
Exactly, apart from that. The minutemen are beyond boring. The game feels way better if you just ignore going to concorde and go straight to BOS vs Institute. But still, feels half coocked. I can't even fathom how much I hate the junky granny.
i never did their horrible quests, i hated preston and his gang so much i was beating them with a pipe all the way into sannctuary and then modded in the baility to gun them down
and yes, me beating them with a pipe for 5 minutes in a row didnt affected anything, because it is a bethesda game
>caring about franchise lore when the gaming has garbage writers
New Vegas wasn't that good either, at least in 4 you have fun shooting shit around, which is what matters. Yeah, the writing is moronic as all hell and could be better, but oh well.
I literally just use Fallout4 to coom. Sucks to be you nerds who played every single mainline FO game and were expecting something good. Should have raised your kids instead of believing Todd.
Fallout 4 has terrible coom mods and animations
This, the game is great when you just create Dead or alive with guns.
fallout 4 unironically perfected melee combat in fallout games with mods
not perfected, but it is better then skyrim
All you need is tiddy and ass mods, frick NV troons lmao
Bethesda never ignored the lore or whatever New Vegas trannies think. They stuck by it, maybe retconning a few things, but mostly unimportant.
Brain Fargo, i think, praised Fallout 3 and Bethesda for their understanding of the Fallout lore. Original writers approve of the retcons.
New Vegas has terrible writing. It's mostly a zoomer circlejerk by ecelebs.
The game has a lot of choice but most of it is written terribly and the world don't react any differently to these choices
And it's still in the top 5 of the best written games of all time, funny how that works
Is it? Oh, you must mean it's in YOUR top five.
Whats your top 5 anon
Star ocean 3
Ffx
Mavis baecon teaches typing
Plumbers dont wear ties
That die hard arcade game
The Institute is directly responsible for creating the Super Mutants in the Commonwealth.
Super Mutants are actually all of the people who have been replaced by synth doppelgangers and were dipped in FEV.
This is not brought up at all outside of conversations with Virgil.
I actually like some of Fallout 4, but god damn is the main storyline dogshit.
It doesn't take long to look at it and find problems like this in it, which normally wouldn't be too much of an issue in other games, but when THE ENTIRE STORY is made up of stuff like this it just becomes embarrassing.
The institute knows how to create specific FEV strains so that later it might be cured, but you can't ask why.
The justification for them in 3 was just as dogshit, except nobody thought about it because there was a decade between the two games.
Pic related never ever
>weapon viewmodel takes up a quarter of the screen
STOP DOING THIS SHIT YOU FRICKING homosexualS
it's not hard to undo
literally just lower the gun to the bottom right of the screen and increase the fov
but console Black folk ruined fps games
>Could have gotten this instead.
>But the IP was handed over to incapable dipshits.
I will remain mad until i'm dead, and even then i would still be mad.
Anon you know damn well its wouldn't look as soulful as that still it would probably be better than bethesda
Mostly of it is already in New Vegas and fricking Frontier. Its shit.
>Incapable dipshits
because the previous owners were much more capable
Anyone have pic related for New Vegas
cool.
>want to play tales of two wasteland
>remember i'll have to spend ten hours looking up guides on how to install it and dozens other mods
>don't play it
the installer installs it for you, dumb Black person
I enjoyed FO4 far more than any of the games combined. I completed NV once and it was ok, but the gameplay is clunky and a bit shit. Didn't really get far with FO3 before the house of cards called the Gamebryo game engine collapsed and it crashed every 2-4 minutes (not to mention that you need a now defunct application to even boot the fricking thing).
FO1 and 2 are a slog fest, good if you're into that but there's really no action to be found in these games so you usually get bored after 2 hours and go play something else. The first ones' combat is a fricking treat: the game gives you no instructions and just tosses a rat at you so you can die in the most embarrassing way possible when you're 2 seconds past the cutscene
>(not to mention that you need a now defunct application to even boot the fricking thing).
No you don't. They patched that like 2 years ago.
oh oke
I'm honestly tired of the faction system in newer fallout games I'd rather just have one route with multiple endings then whatever the hell fo4 was
can anyone explain why trannies co-opted NV?
Because is was co-opted by homosexuals and trannies just tagged along
can anyone explain why homosexuals co-opted NV?
Because NV has homosexuals in it
this thread has you and I don't see anyone co-opting it
Trannies are "in" right now. Especially amongst the youth. They're also overrepresented amongst people with autism which goes hand in hand with computer nerds. Also one thing I did notice is even when I was modding Fallout 3 in 2010 was half the mods were waifu simulator related. Playing as a sexual fantasy girl is dangerously close to wanting to be the girl and I think one logically flows from the other. Millenia was around back then and he ended up trooning out.
>he ended up trooning out.
lolwut? that's crazy i remember him from his cs modding days
it doenst matter it's just a free way out for white people to be included into the minority talk
because being trailer park trash isn't good enough for moronic liberals
>Playing as a sexual fantasy girl is dangerously close to wanting to be the girl
One to way to 'fix' this is to replicate one of my latest moron moments and get sexmods working in Skyrim VR but not consider the difference in wanting to watch a bandit gang run a train on your heroine and actually BEING the heroine. I never wanted to experience an ugly sweaty dude fricking me while his pal shove my face repeatedly into his wang, yet that's exactly what I got, and I'm genuinely scarred.
lol. thank you for the laugh
You're welcome anon.
But the butts.
Thicker
how did that ship got past the other two bridges?
It just works ok?
Boston...home.
Time to install 4 again and do another run.
how the frick did new vegas get associated with trannies? are they making up shit thats things are theres like they do with reality/
because half the companions are gay and voiced by e-celebs and the writers are huge liberals aside from that one who got fired and blacklisted from the industry. only trannies like NV
It's literally just one indian guy who's in every Fallout thread, googling 'game + trans' and posting the same shit over and over.
you could make a graph with shooter RPG axis and Fallout 4 simply lands near the likes of Far Cry. Doesn´t mean it´s dead
Every game is a roleplaying game
i like it. very nice.
Fallout 3 killed fallout moron. New vegas was the last great fallout related thing we will ever get.
It's perhaps okay for a newbie going into Fallout.
Shit is still bugged as frick though, and Bethesda can go eat shit for always rushing their vomit out and expecting their brown noser playerbase to clean it into something presentable.
Underrated new vegas mods
https://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/74239
https://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/74232
now thats neat
it also includes mr house in the securitrons