>fans beg for asscreed japan. >ubisoft delivers. >but the protagonist is black

>fans beg for asscreed japan
>ubisoft delivers
>but the protagonist is black
Was it worth it?
the Japanese side of the internet is incredibly upset

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  1. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >another playable character who is actually Japanese is a woman
    Is this an invitation for equal draft?

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      I wish they would pull a AC Valhalla and have the female character played by Debra Wilson

  2. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >the Japanese side of the internet is incredibly upset
    no they're not, they don't even play ass creed

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Nah, asscreed is well known in Japan too. There are even videos on YouTube where Japanese academics are invited to comment on historical stuff in asscreed games(not ubisoft related)

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        >it's popular because [promotional material]
        anon...

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          I literally said that shit is not ubisoft related
          on top of that, asscreed jp gameplay videos have millions of views

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Hold on I'll get a twitter comment with 0 likes and 0 retweets saying it's shit OR a 2chan post.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        >here ill get japanese people being upset

    • 4 months ago
      Moose

      >they don't even play ass creed
      It and Dead Space are fairly popular in Japan. Sure, it's probably Westaboos or something but during gen 7 we used to get tons of fanart from there.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        AC games all get dubbed 'ver since AC2 at the earliest im aware, i played ACV+Ody both a good half with the jp dub
        male eivor simply sounds like a chad in jp https://youtu.be/idLuMnnaiqI?t=1776

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        >It and Dead Space are fairly popular in Japan.
        >gen 7
        You are aware over a decade has passed since then?
        >[PS3] Assassin's Creed III <ACT> (Ubisoft) {2012.11.15} (¥7.770) - 85.918 / NEW
        >[360] Assassin's Creed III <ACT> (Ubisoft) {2012.11.15} (¥7.770) - 8.791 / NEW
        And last year
        >[PS5] Assassin's Creed: Mirage <RPG> (Ubisoft) {2023.10.05} (¥6.000) - 20.407 / NEW
        >[PS4] Assassin's Creed: Mirage <RPG> (Ubisoft) {2023.10.05} (¥6.000) - 8.029 / NEW

        • 4 months ago
          Moose

          I'm aware. Even so Japan still has fans for the series. It's not as big as it was, sure, but it's still there. The fanbase in Japan seems to mostly be fujos though.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      They will play this one
      Japan loves the Yasuke mythos

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >no they're not, they don't even play ass creed
      literary everyone on the planet has played atleast one ass creed game anon...its that popular.

  3. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Oh boy it's another "Ganker makes nebulous references to 'Japanese internet' to argue some inane point" episode

  4. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    I hope this ends up killing Ubisoft in all honesty.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      No please, I want Far Cry 7

  5. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's a genius move.
    They've been pushing female protagonists for a long ass time but the player base has overwhelmingly picked the male option in Odyssey and Valhalla.
    The frenchies realized that people dislike black protagonists even more than women. So they made the male black but the female Japanese.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      After AC3, there is AC Liberation which has a native female protagonist and AC Freedom which has a black male protagonist. Guess which one currently rakes the most profits.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        AC black flag protagonist looks like a cross between black and native to me thoughbeit

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Aveline isn't native American, she's black.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          Aveline is black.

          Half black. Her father was white

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Aveline is black.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          Aveline isn't native American, she's black.

          She's black AND french, don't forget.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            >She's black AND french
            Truly the worst of both worlds.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Making the protag a jap woman would have been a selling point.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      You know it they had already forced the female protag I wouldn't give a shit. The fact they're so wishy-washy on it is their own issue.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >It's a genius move.
      to what end?

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        happymerchant.jpg

  6. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    yasuke was already a popular folk character in his day. why the west obsesses over him is a mystery, but it's not unprecedented.

    and nobody ever complained about Afro Samurai.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Nope

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >nobody ever complained about Afro Samurai.
      Because it had anime/manga breasts and ass.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >and nobody ever complained about Afro Samurai.
      Afro samurai wasn't designed to be subversive.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        neither is yasuke?
        he was a genuine historical person, however irrelevant, and he's been the star of popular japanese media before with no issue.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          >neither is yasuke?
          lol forget I said anything

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          >he's been the star of popular japanese media before with no issue
          Only media he appeared in was made by westerners apart from Afro samurai, nips dont care about him they literally never did because hes like a tiny fart on their history. Everything about him was commisioned by western companies like that Netflix show even Afro Samurai was massive flop but got picked up by western company to make anime off it. Western mentally ill Black worship.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            He only been the main star in western project, but Japs have no problem with giving him roles in games they develop. He been in games like Nioh and Samurai Warriors.

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              Nioh is probably the most cucked game in existence, the main character isn't even Japanese.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                And yet nobody on this board really complains about it.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            you are stupid and wrong. don't (you) me with your ignorance.

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              Show me one jap centric media piece with him then. Japs dont care about both anglo and Black samurai. Go back to kneeling. Also shows me a shitty fake painting from 1960s ok lmao. Theres literally only one real old painting of him and its not this one but one where he carries umbrella.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Show me one jap centric media piece with him then

                that's two books you moron. stop posting.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                >random book
                Okay? As i said go back to kneeling you self hating cracker homosexual

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Show me one jap centric media piece with him then
                that's two. double what you asked.
                they even won a literary award in japan.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                Lmaaaaaoooo the COPE

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                butt blasted beyond repair

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                hahahaha

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                Why does he look like a clown

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                Yasuke was like a curiosity and court jester, that's probably why they made him wear traditional samurai weapons and armor, it was meant for comedic effect.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous
              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous
              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                Way more Japanese people know who William Adams is than English people who do.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                Thats because anglo did 100 times more and had 10000 times bigger impact on nip history than yasuke did and nips learn about him. Everything we know about yasuke is ltierally single(yes one) diary page that magically surfaced in 1960's alongside one painting. No one knew even through mouth to mouth that someone like that existed before late 60's somehow. When it comes to anglo theres actual armor and sword of his he got but obviously never used,many stories including his ancestors who were after persecuted but lived after he died,he was actually recognized by shogunate had a land and more. Yasuke was a slave gifted to nobunaga who gave him sword during period where nobunaga was giving everyone "title" and when samurai were less respected because of that plus only "battle" he fought was when nobu got smoked. All of that apparently happened under a single year lmao. To be fair showing that anglo as some samurai we wuz warrior is also corny as frick. More interesting persona is Jules Brunet which is a dude last samurai movie got inspired by.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                I think the only Western adaptation of William Adam's life was the Shogun miniseries back in the 70's(?) and that was just inspired by him, didn't even use his name but from memory he was never shown to be a warrior or anything, just as a fish out of water being used by a feudal lord to better deal with the foreigners

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                Don't try to reason with these morons

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              How popular was this?
              >Literary awards
              As if those mean anything.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                >As if those mean anything.
                hue

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                This is just proof that all American woman love sex with grizzly bears. Ask the average woman on the street and they will definitely know what you are talking about.
                The award is highly sought after and respected of course

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              >The book doesn't call him "Yasuke" but "Kurosuke", (Literally, "Blackboy") and gives him big pink donut lips.

              lmao

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              The people who gave the children's book an award didn't exist prior to 1946. It's a literal amerimutt israelite award given during occupation.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >why the west obsesses over him is a mystery
      It's pretty fricking obvious why. So they can shoehorn in a Black person and when told stop that they can point to the court jester of nobunaga and say he wuz samrui n shiet

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >. why the west obsesses over him is a mystery,
      only if you're so dumb you can't tell your m1 from your left testicle.

      Africa had great civilizations while whites were still in caves. Thousands of years before. Grow up. Racist POS

      Perahaps they should have made a mallian asscreed, or ethiopia vs itally instead of this shlock.

      Can't have Asian male protags for some reason. Ghost of Tsushima was an outlier.

      I think it's hilarious that one of the best reps, in mimi's ninja desperado series went sweetbaby, and then went 3/4ths moron .

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        >mallian asscreed
        Would be very interesting to have a straight up African assassin's creed instead of the liberal racist subversion we usually have. They have so much disdain for the people they pretend to care about they prefer to shoehorn them in popular and established settings and time periods instead of exploring their specific history.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Would be very interesting to have a straight up African assassin's creed
          there already is, it's called origins

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            That's the (second) arab Assassin's creed. Still no black African Assassin's creed.

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              slavery focus would be obvious and interesting and dare i say poignant but that would probably offend too many modern sensibilities especially if its being made by crackas

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                Set it during the beginning of the transatlantic slave trade, so you get to beat both on black and european slavers, done.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                >we wuz white slavers
                kek

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                wat

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      they're obsessed with him because he's black
      westerners can't go a day without worshiping joggers

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      In his day? You mean the late 1500s? He was a fricking circus attraction made a sword-bearer and nothing else, and he was sent back to the Jesuits by Akechi Mitsuhide after Oda's death, if he truly was a samurai he would've died with his lord, but no, he was nothing more than a joke. I'm fricking tired of people trying to milk content out of nothing.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        >my sources: trust me, anime
        meanwhile reality:

        >Show me one jap centric media piece with him then

        that's two books you moron. stop posting.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          Good one, now cite any passage that mentions him being anything more than a sword-bearer, I'm waiting.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            after you cite the passage that mentions him being a sword-bearer

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >why the west obsesses over him is a mystery
      no it isn't
      he's the singular standout in Japanese history they can point to and say "BLACK PEOPLE JAPAN" and justify the mandated diversity quota in a country famous for its disdain for foreigners fricking up their shit, he ironically represents the American ideal of getting a bunch of free shit literally handed to you just for being black and existing

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Nobody bother with it besides memes of NOT SAMUEL JACKSON in anime

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      nobody fricking knew about yasuke until one twitter post a year ago

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      and nobody ever complained about Afro Samurai.
      No one hates Samuel, not even racists.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        the MC isn't even black, it's the shinobi you see in the teaser trailer, taht whole rumor is based on a single AI generated article

        >It's not like they raged about black ariel
        futaba had post-limit threads b***hing about it daily for weeks even after the movie was forgotten about in the west. Hell probably the only reason they don't still have them is because they b***h about Wish now instead.

        japan also has pro-imperial, asia super state with japan as leader propaganda in 2023, not every madman rabble is worth caring about

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        >comparing very loosely inspired manga to a game that claim to be historical fiction
        moronic. Theres a reason why as you said people dont care about Afro Samurai and its not about samuel "i have no mutha frickin principles" jackson.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          theres no difference between historic fiction and historic "inspired by" fiction

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            You're moronic but thats okay. Afro doesnt even take anything from certain historical period its a total mishmash including steampunk elements with Afros villains. Also you're a homosexual but play Afros game on 360/PS3 it easily emulates nowadays and its only 5gbs.

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              do you not understand what "historic fiction" means? also steam punk is "historic fiction"

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >hy the west obsesses over him is a mystery

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >why the west obsesses over him is a mystery
      It's really not, americans worship Black folk and he's way to "accurately" add them to japan's history.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yasuke is an easy way to add in Black representation in Japanese settings while still being historical accurate. There was one fiction novel that had a huge clan of black people which were descendants of him. When people questioned it the author gave similar arguments like the people wanting black people in KCD did. "What if Yasuke fricked?!"

  7. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    I think it'll be interesting but I doubt they'll have to execution for it to be good. The story focusing on him just because he's black is going to get annoying tho.
    "It's hard being a black man in Japan" in the cutscenes but you effortlessly massacring all the Japanese people in the gameplay would cause dissonance.
    Could of just made a Zulu tribe AC but only being able to climb on mud huts would get boring

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Africa had great civilizations while whites were still in caves. Thousands of years before. Grow up. Racist POS

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        You're true about whites but african "civilization" were created by non blacks like Egyptians or Phoenicians.
        This is how hanno the phoenician explorer describes the rest of africa
        >Landing on it we saw nothing but forest and at night many fires being kindled; we heard the noise of pipes, cymbals, and drums, and the shouts of a great crowd. We were seized with fear, and the interpreters advised us to leave the island.
        they were savages just like wypipo. Greeks and Romans managed to civilize because of their contacts with Levant, Anatolia, Mesopotamia and Egypt.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        I didn't even talk about white people, why are you like this? Also Egypt is the main draw to great African civilization which they already made a game for called AC Origins.

  8. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >fans beg for ass creed japan
    >ghost of tsushima is released
    >best asscreed game of all time
    >ubishit jumps the shark over 7 years too late

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      The historical reconstruction of the open world was disappointingly bad in ghost of tsushima. Ubisoft can at least deliver in this regard.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        >look at all this historically accurate open space to be bored in while purchasing a loot box to upgrade my assassin dagger to ilvl 420

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          Origins wasn't boring
          Odyssey was still fun for the most part. It was just bloated af

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            Origins was absolutely boring.

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              It was better than ezio trilogy

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                Oh so fricking cool and contrarian aren’t we?

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                Yall need to replay those old games. They aged like shit. A lot of missions in AC2 are pretty atrocious and the open world is completely empty. Only thing going for them is flexible parkour.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                I have, and they’re still better than some psuedo RPG bullshit with a bunch of pretty colors and cardboard cutouts . Now go back.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Yall
                Go back

  9. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Frick no lmao
    Will not pay for it and will not play it. Ubishart is truly exceptional at making trash I have no interest in whatsoever. I think the only one of their games I've played in the last 5 years at least is Anno 1800 and that's basically made by another studio that they bought.

  10. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Ubisoft needs to go out of business as soon as possible, bunch of fricking morons.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Stfu homosexual
      Who else gonna make a game based on holy roman empire
      I don't care if they include a troony or Black person protagonist as long as I get those historical open worlds cause I'm an open world addict

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Who else gonna make a game based on holy roman empire
        If we're talking games in general then there's been a few strategy games that used this setting.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          I don't mean strategy games. I want AAA open world shit set in historical settings. I spend most of the time in unity, origins and odyssey exploring the open world like a drooling moron. Odyssey is really something, man. Not only is the reconstruction of important Greek sites like Athens, Olympia, Corinth etc extremely good(sparta sucked tho) but you can analyze the economic activity of each village

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            >I don't mean strategy games.
            Outside AC those tend to be the most history focused games & given your interest I figured it seemed worth mentioning.
            >I spend most of the time in unity, origins and odyssey exploring the open world like a drooling moron.
            I did this in origins & they even had a history setting where you can move a camera around the map & it gives factiods about all the landmarks which was really cool.

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              >Outside AC those tend to be the most history focused games
              I don't care about military stuff

  11. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >fans beg for asscreed japan
    What is ghost of tsushima

  12. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    They should make the jap version protag a jap like how nier was changed over seas

  13. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    I have to say that I don't really like the RPG aspects of nu-AC. Leveling up, damage numbers going off, saving up points for skill trees, etc just isn't that fun. I barely made it through Oddysey because I was digging the setting but I miss the older titles.

  14. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >Do they not realize or understand the hypocrisy of making the protagonist a Black person in a mono-ethnic feudal era Japan
    Based on actual historical person

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >AC protagonist is an actual historical person rather than a fictional character that interacts with historical people
      I'm pretty sure they've never done that before, which further shows what a mistake it is to attempt it.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Thing with yasuke is that we know nothing about him apart from couple of things from single diary page off nobunagas advisors. Basically
        -was a slave before given to nobu
        -was so dark they tried to clean him for 2 days because they though hes that dirty
        -nobu let him carry swords its not even said that he was granted actual title
        -last and only "battle" he fought was when nobu got fricked
        -gets captured and deemed unworthy subhuman of honorary ritual killing
        -they free him and give away to missionaries
        All of that happened under a single year(yes under one year) so with that he could be completly fictional character because his actual story is cringe as frick. Theres a reason why writers and director of Netflix anime Yasuke(who were black btw) pushed for mecha magic shit because even they saw that making anything out of what we know about him couldn't work and was corny as frick at best. At least with williams you could make some interesting historical drama i guess but with yasuke yeah..thats why they pick him because we basically know that "he existed" and thats it theres even no physical prove that he did too. As for williams then check out Shogun

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      historical ball washer and sword holder.

  15. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Can't have Asian male protags for some reason. Ghost of Tsushima was an outlier.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Why is this? Why are Asian men in western media getting shafted all the time?

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        They don't fit neatly into the regular rules of oppression. hollywood hates asian men. Rap musicians can make music about targeting chinese people and robbing them, and barely a frick is given.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Sleeping Dogs

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Thank God for RGG studios.

  16. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >black male samurai and Japanese female ninja
    Will they frick?

  17. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >zero impact on the nation’s history
    Perfect as a protagonist in asscreed series which pretends to show the other side of history.

  18. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    WE WUZ JAPANESE

  19. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >grossly misrepresentative of the actual historical person
    Have you ever played AC before? That's a big chunk of a lot of the historical figures.

  20. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >the Japanese side of the internet is incredibly upset
    No they aren't lying homosexual, they're interested in where it'll go, you fricks are obsessed with asian people hating black people and I'll never know why

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Prove that you can read japanese

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      moronic otaku on Ganker love projecting their own insane way of thinking onto the Japanese. I've unironically seen morons claim that Japan is completely devoid of gays or trannies.

  21. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    no

  22. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Show hand, you larping gayget

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >only white people can get Black person fatigue
      right

  23. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >game series where the core stealth mechanic is about trying to blend into a crowd in broad daylight
    Modern AC hasn't focused on stealth for a while. Mirage was supposed to be the classic style game that returned to form, but this is probably going to be more like Odyssey

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Modern AC hasn't focused on stealth for a while.
      Rpg shit literally has more focus on stealth than black flag era AC.
      Don't tell me you guys just barge into enemy zones and hack and slash the frick out of them. It's hard to take those forts and encampments without stealth.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        It is extremely easy once you learn how to abuse the arrow system and grind for good equipment. I just sneak because it would be utterly boring to just clear everything out immediately.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          >It is extremely easy once you learn how to abuse the arrow system
          It's better to just maintain shoot them down with arrows and kick them off high ground from the shadows. What the kind of moron would attract the attention of all guards. This also makes it hard to search for treasures in the area with hundreds of guards on your ass.

          I stopped caring about stealth the moment my stealth attacks didn't actually kill enemies and just took a little bit of health.

          I literally never faced this problem and I didn't even grind. There's always advanced gear lying around somewhere for you to find.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            I just set everything on fire and poison people after taking out the alarm from there it’s just a matter of clean up.

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              Okay, so you can play rpg asscreed however you want. I think that's a huge ass improvement over black flag where more than half the missions are tailing moronation.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                Aside from the tailing its not, the combat sucks shit, the leveled enemies and weapons make everything about numbered min max bullshit, and the parkour is just ass everything feels so disjointed where as before there was a flow with how you moved.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                >the combat sucks shit
                The old AC combat is just spamming dodge and attack to finish an entire army charging at you. This new combat incentivizes more subtle approaches.
                >the parkour is just ass
                I agree but the environment itself is not parkour friendly so it didn't bother me much.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                >The old AC combat is just spamming dodge and attack to finish an entire army
                At at least required a modicum of skill, the new shit is just hoping your gears numbers beat the enemies, whether it’s combat or stealth, and it’s just hollow there’s nothing to it, before if I countered at the right time I could do a move that led into a quadruple execution where I get one guy go stab his buddy and finish him off with the hidden gun.

              • 4 months ago
                Moose

                >This new combat incentivizes more subtle approaches.
                No, it doesn't.

                Origins encourages Predator Arrow spam and then it's dodge attacking or spamming heavy attacks on repeat to stunlock your enemy.
                Odyssey encourages Rush Assassinating 5 people on repeat until you get detected and then one-shotting them all with Hero's Strike or just iframing everything with Fury of the Bloodline or other skills until you get something like Hero's Strike back for harder targets.
                Valhalla encourages immediately running at the enemies and mashing attack while dodging to abuse iframes if you see anyone go for an attack and then repeatedly mashing attack. The stamina system is pointless as light attacks grant you more stamina than you expend, and come endgame you have Gungnir/Spear of Leonidas paired with the Gae Bolg from the Wrath of the Druids to completely break combat. You don't even need Gae Bolg to break combat, just spears are enough.

                The only way Valhalla combat is hard is if you don't use spears/hammers/axes/claymores/atgeirs/OH swords/scythes but why in the hell would you? Even OH swords and atgeirs are ass most of the time but no one should be using flails, sicles, seaxes, or Dane Axes, they're ass.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                people always clamor about the parkour in both dying light and AC but to me they are more or less just the veggies of each game and i groan any time the games make me do climbing puzzles with the mechanics. as soon as i get the grappling hook/glider in DL1/2 i stop traversing with parkour because it just boils down to climbing invisible ladders, and in AC i run everywhere with the horse or fast travel, the masturbationary discourse around the parkour in these games needs to stop lol

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                What I hate about the rpg era is the conversation mechanic. I fricking hate looking at static view of people making weird gestures and talking nonstop, as I can't even move my character. This is the worst mechanic in all of gaming history. Just give me normal cutscenes. I hope they remove it form codename red.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                >where more than half the missions are tailing moronation.
                Never played 4 but reading this gave me flashbacks to the previous games. Of all the things to make a formuliac design around this was the worst.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                Unity tried to be hitman lite but it was boring af. The bgm itself puts me to sleep. Still the best looking AC game.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        I stopped caring about stealth the moment my stealth attacks didn't actually kill enemies and just took a little bit of health.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        I do cause once you learn the counter attack timing you re just a demigod killing machine even in valhalla

  24. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >it's okay when Japan does it

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Why didn't you post Nioh 2 which has female protagonist meme? Is it because Nioh 1 is better and you're jealous of it?

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah, they don’t make fricking mouthpieces, and when they do they’re at least entertaining. For frick sake their anti nuke movies have giant monsters destroying cities.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Ganker doesn't give a shit when there's a white protagonist in feudal Japan
        >Ganker throws a fit when there's a Black protagonist in the same setting

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          Nice deflection homosexual, but I never mentioned anything about whites.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            >you are all of Ganker
            moron

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              Is all of Ganker here right now? And if not why did you comment to me specifically if you didn’t want to continue the argument? If you’re this desperate how about you frick off instead of looking for convenient loopholes to unfrick yourself.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                So angry, lmfao, you this passionate about shit that actually matters?

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                >more deflection
                Are you really that scared to face this point? Also if this didn’t matter you wouldn’t be here nor kept this up for this long so either you’re wasting your time or you do actually give a shit take you pick and run with it.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah, I don't like coons.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          Okay and?

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Capitalizing Black
          >Lowercase white
          You've let the mask slip just a little too far, tourist

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          >white
          >Black
          Do reddit cuckold tourists really?

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      you realize japs actually traded a lot with the dutch/netherlands even during it's isolationist period right?

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      The difference is the black guy was not a samurai or a fighter. Pretty much was just a jester.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Isn't he actually based on some dude? As much as anything is in that game, anyway. If the black protag in this was similarly "vaguely just Yasuke," there'd probably be less b***hing. Not NO b***hing, but less.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        William Adams yeah, the game made him an Irish nobody but IRL he was a English navigator who shipwrecked with his fleet off the coast of Japan and manged to get into Tokugowas court along with a Dutch member of the fleet.
        Adams wasn't a ninja or even tangentically related to anything military tho, he was a trade and diplomatic adviser to Tokugawa but Nioh would probably be a shitty game if you spent the entire time just getting frustrated with moronic serfs and organizing deals.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          >he was a English navigator who shipwrecked
          Sounds like a dogshit navigator then

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      people hated nioh having a white protag as well but it gets more of a pass because
      1. yes it is a japanese game
      and 2. nioh wasn't a franchise that was over 15 years with people begging to see it set in japan

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        >2. nioh wasn't a franchise that was over 15 years with people begging to see it set in japan
        Well it is set in Japan no matter what the protag looks like.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >thinks that just because a character in japanese media has fair hair, pale skin with pink undertone, light eyes and euro facial features that they aren't ackshually full blood japanese just stylised
      umm learn a bit, chud

  25. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    The Black person is the samurai. It's the femoid shinobi who will do most of the assassination work.

  26. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's going to flop just like the Black person prince of persia slop. Ubisoft has been taken over by DEI hires.

  27. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    I just want it to be as comfy as AC1

  28. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    hey remember how the last samurai had the protag be a white guy for some fricking reason? or marco polo making shit up about the historical figure? how come you homosexuals never b***hed at that?

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >for some fricking reason
      >bro just have a japanese dude who knows nothing about japanese culture learn to love japanese culture and betray his nation of japan for his nation of japan
      It's almost like the dancing with wolves type of stories only works with a foreigner.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      That character was based off actual french man who actually irl fought alongside last samurai you moronic Black person worshipper.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >hey remember how the last samurai had the protag be a white guy
      Black person are you fricking moronic? What does that have to do with anything? Of course the Civil War vet is going to be a white dude.
      All the samurai were japs.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      The Last Samurai wasn't even the white guy you literal Black person lmao. Also for all the err Yasuka is akshually historical, chud cucks like you there are there were way more white samurai or samurai adjacent people such as the guy in the film. Yasuku is a court jester figure at best treated like Dr Seuss Cat in the Hat but for Japnese children lmao.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        all anime characters are white

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jules_Brunet
      Educate yourself,nigcel.

  29. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    I always thought it was a bad idea. But I bought like 2 AC games and own 3 total, so I'm vindicated

  30. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    What is a white person?

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      White people don't exist except when they're oppressing black people with systemic racism.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous
    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Whatever is convenient for whoever is arguing the point.

  31. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >You just proved that the last game released was returning back to the classic formula, moron
    Except it's just that specific game that was supposed to be the return to formula, moron. The series itself isn't actually going back to the old formula with every game now.

  32. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Anyway i hate when they do this, its so ugly I like playing as beautiful things if I wanted this I would play Super Monkey Ball !!

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >beautiful
      Black men are peak masculine symbols tho

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Like gorillas, chimpanzees and other primates are.

  33. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >the Japanese side of the internet is incredibly upset

  34. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Ubislop 🙁
    >Ubislop japan :0

  35. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    I love how we have daily racebait and BBC spam threads on Ganker every day but the mods will still consistently ban anons for racism. This shithole has become irredeemable.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Reddit tourists and brownoids/joggers just bait people now so they can report them. It’s a tactic they use while they just VPN bounce to ban evade.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Twitter tourists and fragile trannies with nigcels who spam Black person cuck porn report you while people dont care about their mentally ill spam. Be racist because it shows that they actually seethe lol

  36. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    lmao it's a french game, what did you expect.

    people meme about americans worshipping Black folk but frogs haven been doing it since the french revolution.

  37. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Some of you frickers are asking for sources。
    I figure I'd do some japanese practice.

    Amusingly enough, the first google autocomplete it suggested for Assasin creed red in Japanese was アサシンクリードレッド 黒人

    Try that if you feel like checking my work.

    I'd describe the response as mixed-negative, rather than incredibly upset. Most of the upset people just see it as porikori insanity.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      fricking kek, these are basically the fake outrage channel of Japan, yeah im thinking nobody gives a shit it these people are reporting on it

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Keep in mind that the game is a LONG fricking way from being visible to japanese people . Ubisoft doesnt' have ANY press about it, so only the international gamers would have even heard of Red.

        Also keep in mind that this has been the worst year in decades for disney movies in japan, so while you shouldn't take the clickbait at face value, I wouldn't write it off 100 percent either. It's not like they raged about black ariel, but they certainly didn't give her the weeks and weeks at number one that other disney movies got.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          AC red is gonna have male + female period accurate protagonist like all their recent mainline games, the homie rumor is from some clickbait shit that Gankerpol tards keep getting baited by. especially when we already have a literal african protagonist in bayek

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          >It's not like they raged about black ariel
          futaba had post-limit threads b***hing about it daily for weeks even after the movie was forgotten about in the west. Hell probably the only reason they don't still have them is because they b***h about Wish now instead.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >porikori
      ?

  38. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    You people have been parroting this shit for months without even an iota of factual info. Apparently the game is being made by Odyssey team and is going to be another shitty witcher 3 wannabe, I doubt they'd have two drastically different protags

  39. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Assassin franchise
    >Could make a game about japanese ninjas, shit was that simple
    >Instead make a samurai game with detroit protag
    Are they moronic?

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Its western company anon Black worship must go on. Blackphilia is French invention too btw. Westerners hate asian men especially so its not suprising. When people realized that during stop asian hate majority of attacks were by blacks entire media stopped pushing that shit lmao. Blacks nowadays target asian businesses and people to rob while recording songs about that and no one in West cares.

  40. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >they researched the entire history of japan in hopes of finding even a single Black person
    It's like a parody.

  41. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    They are way too late with this.
    Ghost of Tsushima already ate it's meal, and Rise of the Ronin will finish the left-overs before this thing comes out.

  42. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >the Japanese side of the internet is incredibly upset
    Im sure theyll get over it

  43. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why crackers defend their Black gods like their lifes depends on it? Its good mayo monkeys are getting replaced.

  44. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >games past the PS2 era with blacks as protag in it
    no buy from me, go away

  45. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    I mean playing as Yasuke is a cool concept but it's Goobysoft so they'll undoubtedly frick it up

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      I can't wait for the main villian to be the white French dude who was the star of that other weeaboo movie. Expect the girl to be named either Kasumi or Ayame too btw.

  46. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Japs don't care about this guy. Show me one piece of hentai drawn by a Jap with this guy in it. Preferably one of him fricking a JK bawd with huge breasts.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Wouldn't that be crazy haha

  47. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >be weapons retainer
    >get over-interpreted by the nu-west
    >run away when Mitsuhide betray Nobunaga

  48. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >I wish for asscreed to be set in Japan

  49. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >still no proof besides an AI generated clickbait article by some nobody journo
    lul

    yasuke isnt gonna be a MC though, although it would be kino.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >it's fine, they didn't turn the Prince black, it's a new black MC with zoomer haircut in ancient Persia
      >it's j-just a fake clickbait, asscreed is safe, trust me guys
      You are so naive.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        not defending that pic, but it's a pic from 2016 and not even from the main game. they did seem to learn from their mistake and i didn't see anything like it from the corresponding mode in ACV

        also if we are being honest, getting upset over that is pretty stupid since it's a video game made for entertainment, its not even edutainment, and you see plenty of worse stuff in classrooms these days, so the fact you are posting this 8 years later is just some petty misguided gamer rage in all honesty. AC devs are the good guys.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          My conclusion is we should be getting more angry at classrooms.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            damn they let you play videogames in class now? siiiick

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          vidya and movies trying to depict real history and event should be as close to documentaries and scientific view as possible, otherwise, they are shit and should just throw it in a fantasy setting. Stop polluting truth and reality, homosexuals

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            thats a horrible take, movies should be fun first and foremost. if you care about history then start reading actual books. the lincoln movie is a great fricking example of how historic films should be templated. some scenes are completely made up but still within realm of plausibility and captures the identity of the realism behind the scenes

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            there's always a pretty clear line you have to dance to not offend too many modern sensibilities when it comes to depictions of history in entertainment, and assassins creed is definitely not the kind of franchise where you will show historical realism, the audience is hollywood history kind of audience, that thinks romans are cool gladiator guys but have no idea what pederasty is. its an action adventure set in a moderately historic setting, and that's the way i like it.

  50. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >new prince of persia has black mc
    >new ass creed has black mc
    I guess now that they're done destroying white culture, it's time to destroy other's as well.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      see

      >still no proof besides an AI generated clickbait article by some nobody journo
      lul

      yasuke isnt gonna be a MC though, although it would be kino.

  51. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    doesnt really matter when japan themselves are making their own assassin's creed: nippon https://youtu.be/zS8EvlTGCiE?si=qHW0-wB0LO4hreil

    i just hope it comes out on pc

  52. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    I doubt an RPG Assassin's Creed game is going to ditch the female and male protagonist swap and have a set character. This is definitely going to follow the Odyssey and Valhalla approach. Honestly, I just wish they would throw in a character creator at this point. They might as well since the MCs in these game are barely characters anymore.

  53. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    just let it flop then

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Is that a dude

  54. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    No one gives a frick about Asscreed Japan, the window of opportunity to focus on hype and pander to everyone about using a Japanese setting was lost by Revelations and 3 (before the viral popularity of its naval combat took off).

  55. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Black person asscreed japan "rumor" thread #128, now with extra bullshit and still zero actual confirmation
    How are you not tired of this yet?

  56. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    BIPOC as a term exists to exclude asians out of "diversity"

  57. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    wow, who could have predicted this.
    >'wha, there was a black man in japan!? we have to make him the protagonist!'
    many such cases, if you give these people one man in japanese history, they will take it and run with it.

    I haven't even checked, this IS Yasuke, isn't it?

  58. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >the Japanese side of the internet is incredibly upset
    Good, I hate those c**ts almost as much as kangz. I hope they all commit ritual suicide.

  59. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    I fricking hate Black folk.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous
  60. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >several years ago everyone understood that Yasuke was just some guy that Nobunaga kept around for show and made his swordbearer
    >that's fine, can still use him as a character in fictional works
    >some nog writes a book filled with unsourced bullshit
    >now Yasuke wuz samurai and fought in all these battles don't you dare deny it chud
    It's all so tiresome

  61. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    I don't know why they don't just have a character creator at this point. Does anyone actually give a shit about the set protagonists in the recent games?

  62. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Asscreed Japan
    >No shinobi component
    >No templar = Samurais VS Assassin's = Ninjas
    >Spectacular missed opportunity
    No thanks, not buying

  63. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why do americans hate japanese men so much? Seriously show me an american movie where the nip is a protagonist and not
    >Secondary character
    >Gay
    >Nerd/comical

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Ubisoft is French, you stupid frick

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >French company
      >Canadian studio
      Ganker schizos still find some way to blame Americans

  64. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Really? Why a black guy? Is it supposed to be Yasuke? Everyone wanted the Japan game so they could be a ninja. Yasuke was an oddity Nobunaga kept around. He's not very interesting.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      it's not real

  65. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >make the protag an Emishi or Ryukyuan
    >get brownie points for diversity while teaching filthy gajin a lesson on underutilized ethnic groups within the greater Nippon

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Not brown enough

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >get brownie points for diversity
      You seem to misunderstand, diversity means just more black people in the US not the original meaning of the word
      A common misunderstanding for europoors

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      diversity literally means Black folk moronic subhuman
      I think you do deserve everything that's happening

  66. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    I hope they make asscreed even more pozzed and moronic, the morons who eat this slop deserve it.

  67. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    People still play this series after their magnum opus, Black Flag? What a waste.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >local anon larping as a Ubishart employee claims that a Black Flag remake is in the works
      >still no word on it after Skull and Bones finally got a release date locked down
      Inb4 kill

      • 4 months ago
        Moose

        Skull & Bones is going to be disastrous so I imagine they don't want to cannibalize sales by releasing a better game soon.

  68. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >anything happens in feudal japan
    >"But the Lord's token african pet slave..."
    It gets old. So old. Most of the time when the Nips do it they do it as a one-off or a reference. A "western" company immediately jumps a tthe opportunity to have a black guy running around Japan murdering people. Even in Nioh's one-off fight you don't even notice he's black because he's wearing armor and it's not relevant at all. If a "western" company did that same thing he would have a 5 minute cutscene with exposition read straight off wikipedia after californian reinterpretation.

    But in Asscreed? Of course the Shinobi will be completely helpless and getting their shit pushed in. Brave black man will be soloing the templar forces.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >in Nioh's one-off fight you don't even notice he's black

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        >puts helmet on

  69. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    So are you just incapable of blending in or do they pretend it was normal to be a black samurai?

  70. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Rose offense its going to be another fricking rpg slop where a peasant with skull more levels than you can rape you ans you cant kill it with sneak nor a nuke until they release a patch to customice that bullshit like valhalla

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >you cant kill it with sneak
      Haven't played Valhalla, but I absolutely hated this shit in Odyssey. Stealth kill not immediately killing an enemy because of levels is fricking stupid.

      • 4 months ago
        Moose

        Valhalla had the ability to do it since launch but then added in a warning message like a year later that goes "You shouldn't enable this as the game isn't balanced around it!" when it very clearly was balanced around it existing since EXP is scaled based on enemy type rather than level so going to 300+ areas at level 20 gives you the same EXP as fighting in level 20 areas.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          Not launch i got PS5 version as gift and had to update

          • 4 months ago
            Moose

            Really? I got it like two months after it released on sale and it had it. I guess it must have been added in those two months then, but they literally advertised that it would have it in interviews.
            https://web.archive.org/web/20200512171151/https://kotaku.com/assassin-s-creed-valhalla-is-bringing-back-the-instakil-1843417623

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          > Translation note: No pls i crunched so hard to make bbc length action rpg for you

  71. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Just play Ghost of Tsushima

  72. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >BMAF
    Are these Black folk for real?

  73. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    playing brotherhood atm

    is there a point in trying to get the full synchro thingie from the missions to unlock repressed memories? if they are like the apple video from ac2 i'm good just skipping them

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Skip. 100% any AC game is moronic you dont get anything apart from very vague "lore" video that to understand you will have to watch youtube video by some autismo who read all codex entries anyways lmao.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        yeah i will just watch the thingie on youtube after i beat the game just like with the apple video. nothing personnel.

  74. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    White, black, asian. I don't care. I just don't want to play as a man. I want to play as a cute girl that I can mod sexy outfits on to. Hopefully the rumors about the Asian female protagonist is true.

  75. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Still reposts a year old rumor without any backing

  76. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    If I had to drink a woke poison I would rather play as hapa woman than an african slave.

  77. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Was it worth it?
    No, I'd rather not play a japanese something than play a Black ninja from da hood.

  78. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Is it just me or is the left image AI generated?

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Not you

  79. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >people on Ganker now het upset on behalf of another culture.
    Did we go full circle?
    Are we now woke on the other side of the spectrum?

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      japanese culture is our culture you dipshit

  80. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Truly the Lancelot of Japan.
    Anyway, Arthurian Ass Creed when?

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Follow up Origins and Odyssey with an RPG combat game set in the British Isles.
      >Don't make it about Arthurian Legend, instead make it about Vikings.
      >Throw in Excalibur anyway.
      What were they thinking?

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        >made the Anglo Saxons the bad guys
        Wew

        • 4 months ago
          Moose

          They didn't, the vikings are constantly considered the bad guys all game and it regularly has Christians insulting them, wary of them, and you find tons and tons of notes in ransacked or abandoned homes essentially saying "Frick the vikings" in so many words and how they're either going off to join a local militia to defend their land or running with their family. Eivor literally sides with the Anglo Saxons and helps the Templar Order become a thing because of her not killing the Anglo Saxon king and leader of the Order of the Ancients. She even wishes him well in the epilogue before heading off to America.

          Sure, it tries to whitewash the vikings somewhat by making Eivor sometimes discourage killing, and Eivor herself didn't murder civvies as a pillaging viking for some reason, but even Eivor joins in on the "Haha, dumb Christians" jokes and is regularly antagonistic towards the Anglo Saxons and their religion unless they come to Ravensthorpe or one of her friends converts. Even for a friend that converts she ribs him for it in the epilogue.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            Hey babe

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            >herself

            • 4 months ago
              Moose

              Yes. Default option has Eivor as a female, Havi as the male who you only see in Asgard. If Eivor is played as a male you're referred to as a female in letters and passing dialogue, only the DLC uses the single "They" to refer to you.
              If Havi is a female the story of Asgard doesn't make any sense because his son is Baldr because he banged Frigg to conceive him. Eivor has male and female DNA in her as established like five minutes into the game, so either Odin is female and Eivor is male (Which makes no sense due to the mythological side of things) or Eivor is female and Odin is male (Which makes complete sense).

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                No, Eivor is male.

              • 4 months ago
                Moose

                I'm sorry you ignored the dialogue the game outright tells you and then the subsequent inconsistencies if Eivor is male. I guess it's normal for a man in the late 800s to have a woman's last name?

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                Listen.
                Eivor is male.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                Female Eivor is shit and doesn't work.

              • 4 months ago
                Moose

                Doesn't matter. Kass didn't make any sense within the context of ancient Greece either but she's the MC of Odyssey and Alexios is dead. Like I said, Eivor being female has a bunch of explicit reasons for it like the female last name, people referring to you as a female despite playing a male, and the literal default Animus option being to prioritize data streams of the male and female side. That shows you that Havi is only ever seen in Memory Corridors and Asgard so Odin is male, meaning the female DNA stream can only be Eivor and would make no sense to be Havi. There is not just only male DNA in Eivor, it's male and female. One side has to be female, and female Odin directly contradicts the Norse mythology and DLC outright.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                It does matter.
                Eivor is male.

              • 4 months ago
                Moose
              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                >bro they had to make the protag a female because of the choices they made!

                You're moronic

              • 4 months ago
                Moose

                I never said they had to, I said that's the reason why Eivor is canon female so we have to deal with it. Eivor as a male or female are both shit, both have terrible whispery performances with no emotion outside of anger, and as a character they're easily near the bottom along with Kass/Alexios, Jacob, and Shay.

                qhat i remember is that fem eivor was required for a plot point about basim not recognizing him if he was male work but thats it

                i think if they are doing this 2 gender protag shit the worst thing they can do is give a definite canon answer because then what is the point, everyone plays as male anyway (including the women ive watched play this game)

                There's multiple reasons as listed
                >Default option of the Animus doesn't recognize Eivor as a male, it has to override and hack the male/female options in. The default option resonates with whatever gender is stronger in the memories, and Eivor is only ever a female while Odin is only ever a male. It never once makes you play as Havi outside of Asgard or Memory Corridors and never once makes you play as Eivor outside of the main game.
                >Eivor's last name is Varinsdottir which literally means "Varin's daughter" even if you play as the male.
                Eivor's dad doesn't hate Eivor so why do that to him if he's a male? Why would Eivor continue referring to himself as Varinsdottir instead of Varinson?
                >Some letters to Eivor refer to them as a female.
                >Passerby NPCs will call you "her" or "she" if playing as a male.
                >Basim expected Odin to be in Sigurd because he's a man, not Eivor because she's a woman.
                >Odin has a son Baldr with Frigg in Dawn of Ragnarok and it's explicitly told to you that he only married Freya to tide over the Nine Worlds, so unless FemOdin is a futa none of it makes sense.
                You basically have to plug your ears and go "Lalala" when this is all in-game, it's not even dealing with the interviews that say both male and female are canon which is correct because male (Odin) and female (Eivor) are both canon.

                lol what

                Alexios sounds like a guy faking a Greek accent and he hams up all his lines. Despite the VA actually being from Greece.
                Kassandra's an butthole or combative in a majority of dialogue exchanges and her threats are completely unbelievable.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                both male and female are canon. i put 150hrs into the game and never once got a hint of some underlaying ebin narrative where the writers are bamboozling me with subtle hints about playing as a woman who thinks they are a man, i vaguely remember something about basim, odin, female blah blah but it doesn't change the fact that my eivor is canon male. that's also very obviously what the devs are going after.

              • 4 months ago
                Moose

                >both male and female are canon
                Yes, because male is Odin and female is Eivor, how are you not understanding this? If Eivor is male then Odin is female, so explain the Odin issues away. If Eivor is male and Odin is male then the Animus and Rebecca are lying to you because why exactly?

                Like I said, you're completely ignoring every single thing the game itself presents you. The Discovery Tour itself multiple times only refers to Eivor as a female.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                no, eivor is canon male and female, odin is canon female and male. my eivor is male and that's my (head)canon. the devs most likely picked a side so they can sell you novels and whatever paraphernalia attached to the game and they just picked a side for consistency. meanwhile in the game you don't have to do this.

              • 4 months ago
                Moose

                >no, eivor is canon male and female, odin is canon female and male
                No, they are not. You beating your head over and over in denial doesn't make them canon. Male Odin is canon and female Eivor is canon. Male Eivor is not canon and female Odin is not canon despite being selectable in the Animus. That is the Animus overwriting reality with an Animus hack which has been a constant throughout the series such as with Alexios, the MGS outfit, all the ancestors since Desmond/(You)/Noob/Numbskull/Layla/Basim are the original look it layers over, the Trial of the Gods in Origins, the cheats in ACB to AC3, etc. Even the Discovery Tour content shows us debug gameplay with femEivor as their default character and they literally use Odin as a male.

                By your logic Alexios is canon as the main character because you played as him which he isn't. Kassandra is the main character which Valhalla and Jade feature her. Your headcanon isn't canon, it's just that: Headcanon.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                i dont care what the dev says is canon when the reasons are this paper thin, thats why my headcanon is stronger than the established canon because there is no significant clash at any point. if the devs wanted to have this ebin gender mystery narrative as some sort of hook they would have given it more thought but it is an obvious executive decision handed down to the dev/writing team so they did the bare minimum of making it seem plausible that female is the canon eivor

              • 4 months ago
                Moose

                Dude, I've given you like six or eight different reasons why female is canon, how are they all "paper thin"? The entire main story relies on Eivor not being a man, otherwise Basim would beeline towards him and realize Sigurd is Tyr the instant he lost his arm.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                they all rely on the isu subplot which i basically don't care about, they are all side story material that keep getting included into these games because they are a narrative throughline the series is just stuck with for better or worse.

                also as a side note, what is canon and what is not is mostly irrelevant when it comes to currently active IPs, take lord of the rings and rings of power, the latter is part canon because it is sanctioned by the tolkien estate and it's in legal writing, but nobody cares because the fans overwhelmingly disagree with the notions the show puts forth, and treat it as fanfiction. now, if the story in these games was on the level of popularity as tolkien, people would probably hand wave every bit of justification used to indicate fem eivor, either as inconsequential or by simply hand waving it because they don't like it. that is based on the assumption i have that most people play as male eivor. ie. what the canon says is irrelevant as long as fans all agree on it.

              • 4 months ago
                Moose

                >they all rely on the isu subplot which i basically don't care about,
                Too bad, it's one of the three parts of the entire main story the other two being the Order of the Ancient subplot (Which also deals with the Isu) and the "Build up Ravensthorpe" subplot (Which constantly has people bickering over Sigurd's mental aptitude due to his Isu delusions). What, did you just not finish the main story at all? The thing that deals with the Isu as the main driver for anything Basim or Sigurd did during the entire story? If you didn't then why do you care about what's canon at all? You don't care about a good portion of the main story or the series as a whole so why argue about it?

                Also, the Tolkien thing doesn't matter in this context because fan response to Kass being canon and Eivor being female is barely brought up at all and when it is no one cares. Kass in particular has sort of just been accepted as "Well, she exists I guess" ever since her Valhalla appearance. Most of the complaining about this subject I've ever seen is here.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                it's a complete side story. i beat the game without going into midgard the 2nd time because i was bored senseless with the whole setting. its like those shitty drug level jokes in far cry taken way too far. to me the entire game is the viking plot and then the ending with basim getting freed from the isu machine. it just works. you can cut out the entire convoluted isu plot, and you lose what? you lose some context on why basim wants to get out of the machine he's being kept in. the whole inclusion of the isu subplot into the main game was done atrociously bad. the scifi elements of the IP are already its most mind numbing part, and i groan any time i have to interact with it

              • 4 months ago
                Moose

                >it's a complete side story
                The Isu are the entire reason why there's a mutiny happening in the Order of the Ancients and without that knowledge of the Isu they're just fighting because why exactly? Just because? The whole reason Aelfred wants them all dead is because the mutineers believe that humanity should prostrate and worship the Isu like gods while Aelfred believes in a warped version of Christianity with the Isu sort of being parts of the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost or something like that, it's confusing.
                The Isu are the entire reason why Basim even bothers to befriend Sigurd as he wants to kill Odin for what Odin did to Fenrir.
                The Isu are the entire reason why Basim, Sigurd, Eivor, Harald, Faravid, Halfdan, and Svala have had the experiences they did in life with Halfdan literally only conquering what he did because of being so influenced by Thor.
                The Isu are the entire reason why Eivor randomly dreams of Odin and sees Odin talking during Memory Corridors, otherwise she's just a schizo thinking she's a god. You even go to Valke like three times just to get high outside of the DLC just to interpret the "visions".
                The Isu are the entire reason why Sigurd isn't fit enough to lead Ravensthorpe and relinquishes the duty to Eivor because he's losing his mind due to Tyr overtaking his own.
                The Isu are the entire reason why Sigurd even bothers to go with Fulke because he wants answers to why he's hearing Tyr in his brain.

                This is all main story stuff. It's not side content. It's all required just to do the main story.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                the whole isu plot takes about 2 hours to get through in a 100 hr game, and the game doesnt even require you to finish it to beat the game

                its a side story

              • 4 months ago
                Moose

                The Asgard story is not what we're talking about and even then that takes like 10 hours to complete all three parts. We're talking about the main-non Asgard content. Everything I listed has nothing to do with Asgard content and it all in the main story.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                youre just reading too much into it because thats what the devs wanted when they made a 2deep4u over convoluted isu plot when the starting point was "help the ancient aliens" which they turned into "there are ancient aliens among us and desmond is an AI and whatever" and nobody even cares at this point because the writers have literally gone berserk and its obivous they dont have a narrative lead and every time they do something its like trying to re wire a house with 100 year old electrical work

              • 4 months ago
                Moose

                >youre just reading too much into it
                No, I'm not. It's literally part of the main story, you're just ignoring everything for some reason.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                >for some reason
                because the plot of the game is me and my vikingbros doing viking shit, the rest of the story is literally the meme with that guy explaining on a whiteboard. i. don't. give. a. frick.

              • 4 months ago
                Moose

                >i. don't. give. a. frick.
                Then don't argue about canon. You're not playing Assassin's Creed, you're playing a viking game and ignoring like half of what's in it then arguing that your vision of the game is the real one and everyone else is wrong.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                the isu side plot shit is no assassin's creed by even a remote margin. thinking it is a massive meme. its quite literally the narrative equivalent of having to eat your veggies. you need to eat your veggies so that you can go back to playing your videogame.

              • 4 months ago
                Moose

                >thinking it is a massive meme
                It is literally part of what makes Assassin Creed what it is. Ubisoft even makes it a point to make sure that Modern Day and Isu stuff are in the games because they're what people come to the games for in addition to the historical content. Go watch

                Then go read stuff from the original creator:
                https://www.mtv.com/news/x577o7/how-assassins-creed-developers-protected-their-games-big-secret
                >The flashback-storytelling device was planned for "Assassin's Creed" since early in the game's development. But, Desilets said, "at first it wasn't in the present." The game initially was going to feature someone in the past, possibly someone living in Altair's time, recounting the assassinations. Then Desilets changed his mind. "I read something about a guy going into his memories and having a flashback of his ancestors. I thought we could do that [as a] science fiction twist. We could do a historical theme, but we could have something different."
                Patrice makes it very clear from interviews that the sci-fi content is what makes Assassin's Creed what it is and if you take it out you just have a random historical game.

                The entire reason why Layla was even introduced to the series was because people were complaining there was no Modern Day or Isu focus in Unity and Syndicate which outright tells you that people care. You specifically don't.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                you have a really distorted view on what these games mean for people, they're historical tourism games. nobody cares about the scifi elements, from what little discussions ive followed they are always centered on the self contained narratives in the games. none of this is helped at all by how convoluted the lore is. to the effect that i had to watch a 30 min lore video just to understand what the valhalla sotyr was actually about and i would say i am the 1% of people who actually care enough to learn about, the plot is so absurdly convoluted that it falls into the "zanzibart i forgive you" line of world building in soulsshit without actually trying to. the writers are obivously trying to create an interesting scifi story but they frick it up so badly to the effect that someone who puts 100hrs+ into the game still needs to watch a supplementary video about it. this is NOT a mark of good writing, even if you are able to enjoy it, 99%+ of people will simply go "cool so they were like aliens n shit" and go play whatever next game they have installed

              • 4 months ago
                Moose

                >nobody cares about the scifi elements
                Again, the entire reason why Layla exists is because people constantly complained about how nonexistent they were in Unity and Syndicate.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                and do people like then? i haven't played the "middle" AC games (only played nucreed+ac1 till AC:B) but i can tolerate the desmond segments, the layla ones i wish there was a skip button.

              • 4 months ago
                Moose

                People hate Layla because she's a garbage character. I've seen people complain about the length of Layla's intro part in Origins but not really anything else, and in Odyssey you go so long between her segments I've never seen anyone have an issue with her there. Same deal with her segments in Valhalla because she does all her stuff within the Animus due to glitches and you have to manually pull out of it when you want to. The only time it pulls you out is to go to the Isu Animus thing.
                I've never seen anyone complain about Basim.

                As far as I've seen people don't hate the parts, they hate the implementation of the parts due to Layla being a garbage character which they've tried to address since the new trilogy rarely pulls you out or only when it's appropriate whereas AC3 pulled you out constantly.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                >whereas AC3 pulled you out constantly.
                this is mainly what i was referring to when i said the isu (or modern day plot in general) is a meme and youre putting too much weight on it. people dont like being interrupted by the current day plot. it can work like in the desmond/ezio games but its hard to do well and you are putting a lot of faith on yourself as the writer and assuming the player is fully invested in your side plot because if they are not then it will just read as someone interrupting your game literally

  81. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >the Japanese side of the internet is incredibly upset
    no one cares lol

  82. 4 months ago
    Anonymous
  83. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    I don't care about Black person protagonist because it will be souless ubishit garbage regardless of everything else

    Do you guys actually play videogames? None of us should actually play it no matter what

  84. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    qhat i remember is that fem eivor was required for a plot point about basim not recognizing him if he was male work but thats it

    i think if they are doing this 2 gender protag shit the worst thing they can do is give a definite canon answer because then what is the point, everyone plays as male anyway (including the women ive watched play this game)

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      The female has been canon for the last two major games. Even the books are canon to the games lol

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Kass went from my fave protag to least favourite with those canon choices.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          >fav
          how? even alexios is better for the simple immersion fact. nothing rips me out of my escapist fantasy more than hearing a female warrior screaming in bloodrage swinging a big hammer. even if they are some demigod (a female god of war, lmao)

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            Alexios has shitty VA

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              lol what

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                He does

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                i liked him, although i already forgot what he sounds. i played both jp and eng dub versions and im usually quite responsive to bad va work, i dont see w hat u mean

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                It's true. His acting suits Demios more.

  85. 4 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      that really sums it up. game devs of various faiths can at least have some fun with it and laugh at themselves sometimes without taking everything so seriously. people of diverse sexual and gender identities are unable to have a good laugh, everything must be serious 100% of the time or they will kill themselves

  86. 4 months ago
    Anonymous
  87. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    I don't believe there was any backlash. Being a fan of ubisoft/asscreed in current times means they would eat anything ubisoft shat out of their dirty french butthole.

  88. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >another asscreed game with overloaded 200hr content

  89. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    We already got Ghost of Tsushima, AssCreed is no longer needed

  90. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >>the Japanese side of the internet is incredibly upset
    This might come as a surprise but japan likes yasuke

  91. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Iran & Japan
    >decidedly non-white countries, so they should be free to be represented as homogenous countries with their own cultures in the past
    however...
    >Iran is part of the bad guys and nasty to our greatest ally
    >Japan is fully westernized and has a standard of living better than white countries while remaining homogenous
    therefore..
    >Persia was always a multicultural empire, chud. If it had Bactrians, Parthians and Assyrians, surely it had African Americans too. Here's a mutt to play as and a strong black woman companion in this celebration of Ira.. Black culture!
    >Japan always tried - and failed! - to be an isolationist homogenous country. See, even 5 centuries ago multiculturalism had already taken root, with a sizable portion of the population already being black. You get to play as one in this celebration of Jap... African American culture, and rethink what Japan actually needs.

  92. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Guess who will NOT be named as an official ambassador for Japan

  93. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >yasuke
    this Black person larp will never not be funny

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Google Earth now let you do animated overlays?

  94. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Americans worship Black folk. That one Black person in Japan was a servant, he was just some big shot warlord's pet kept as a rarity, that's all. His rank was "retainer, weapon-bearer", so his job was to carry weapons around
    Leave it to americans, who are severely mentally ill from massive brainwashing to portray said Black person as some revered hero, or samurai.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      it's funny that Asians have more respect for whites than whites have respect for themselves

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Forgot this shit is made by Ubishit, the original Blackphiles

  95. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Him being black is only half of it. The other half is it's a fricking side-scroller. Side-scrollers are one of those genres that was supposed to go away with full 3-D game capacity.

    • 4 months ago
      Moose

      What? You're thinking of the Chronicles games. Assassin's Creed Red is like the modern trilogy.

  96. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Is there like field promotion? How do you become a samurai in a year? Or can you just buy a title?

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Nobunaga was a tard in regard to certain things. During his reign samurai title was given to literally any moronic bum and held no prestige whatsoever. It were times when samurai in a lot of places were shitted on because title was given to criminals and homosexuals who were practicing on literally killing innocent civilians just like that in broad daylight. Nobunaga saw big Black slave who looked like a demon to them and gave him a sword instantly thats it. Nobu also was a massive c**t who liked to kill and pillage innocents and completly forbid shinobi code. One of his very close people was a peasant Hideyoshi who nobu gave a title. Nobunaga was egocentric sociopath with contrarian mindset as peasant couldn't be samurai before so he started giving title to peasants basically.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Nobunaga was egocentric sociopath with contrarian mindset as peasant couldn't be samurai before so he started giving title to peasants basically.

        Nobunaga conferred title based on actual display of merit.
        His reign might have been a case of an actually fully functioning meritocracy, if he hadn't been stabbed in the back by at Honnoji.

  97. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    5 white samurai
    1 black samurai
    2 Korean samurai
    1 Chinese Samurai

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_foreign-born_samurai_in_Japan

  98. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Was it worth it?
    >the Japanese side of the internet is incredibly upset
    That's why it's worth it.
    Fuel to the fire for the Japs to drive out the wokeness from Japanese gaming and *keep* it out.
    The fact that we had to sacrifice a carbon-copy Ubisoft-towers game to get it done is an infinitessimal small price to pay.
    Some with a bone to pick wrt to the AssCreed series, might even call it a boon to see it burned.

  99. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    To those of you who don’t know:
    >The male protagonist is Yasuke, the first and possibly only black Samurai
    >The female protagonist is the fictional daughter of some high ranking Japanese dude from the time period.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Oh boi, I can already guess the two will frick

  100. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    A lot of western players too.
    Also, we wanted an asscreed in japan BEFORE the superpowers/magic bullshit from the open world games

  101. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Would you say the Japanese fans are vocal and unhappy?

  102. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    why can't you gays stop whining and make your own games?

  103. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Japs are already doing their own "Assassins Creed: Japan"

  104. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Question. I believe this was around the time of Brotherhood when people were already screeching for Japan in Assassin's Creed. I remember the director said that Japan was an overused setting and he'll never want to do it. My question is what the frick was he talking about? The only Japanese setting game popular at the time I think was Total War Shogun.

    • 4 months ago
      Moose

      https://web.archive.org/web/20120407005829/http://www.oxm.co.uk/40413/ubisoft-ww2-japan-and-egypt-are-the-three-worst-settings-for-an-assassins-creed-game/
      >"People on the internet suggest the most boring settings," Hutchinson mused when we asked him whether he'd considered certain hotly demanded alternatives. "The three most wanted are WWII, feudal Japan and Egypt. They're kind of the three worst settings for an AC game."

      Ninja Gaiden, I think Tenchu, Onimusha, and I want to say one or two other games were all in recent memory.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        All of those IPs were quite literally fricking dead by 2012,okay NG was on track to shit out a game that killed the IP for over a decade now. What the frick was that ubisoft homosexual talking about?

        • 4 months ago
          Moose

          Tenchu: Shadow Assassins was only three years prior, Onimusha Dawn of Souls was in 2006 so six years prior but still in recent memory, Ninja Gaiden was alive that whole time, Yakuza 1 and 2 were on the tail end of the PS2 with 3 and 4 being out on the PS3 around that time, and I'm sure there's more. He was also probably talking about how in general a lot of games are set in Japan.

  105. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    I normally tolerate Ubislop but won't buy this one because of it, even on sale.

  106. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    NO BUY

  107. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    anyone who wanted asscreed game after black flag has damaged brain so it's not like they are going to complain

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Is black flag really that good? Even people who don't like asscreed seem to love black flag.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        people like it because naval fights are alright
        I didn't really like the story in it but using a ship was something new and it worked nice

        >after black flag
        after 2
        2 was shit and i regret playing it

        1, 2, brotherhood and 4 were the only good titles
        3 was fricking horrible and revelations was just a cashgrab

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >after black flag
      after 2
      2 was shit and i regret playing it

  108. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Remember when Ubisoft created a Singaporean office and began work on Skull and Bones at the request of the Singaporean government, and rather than hiring local Singaporeans, Ubisoft transferred over a bunch of French people who just spent the entire time getting piss drunk and partying, and now Ubisoft is on the hook for tens of millions of dollars because they still haven't released Skull and Bones?
    How is Ubisoft still alive.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      The French fricked their way through the entire female population of Singapore and now the women are shielding them against their cuckold husbands.

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