>director got canceled and we'll never get a sequel
It's not fricking fair
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Urban fantasy is in dire need of more content, i really like the idea of gangsta orcs doing drive bys with pepperboxes and swat units that look like knights and shit
3 months ago
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yeah the problem with that is drawing the connection between literal orcs and black people
3 months ago
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Is that a problem? Orcs are cool, are gays saying that black people aren't cool? Tyrone give my greenskin here a volley
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>Is that a problem?
not for me, but for other people it is.
honestly I think most racially typed fantasy stories are boring (and Bright was dogshit) but it isn't something you COULDN'T do, it is something you WOULDN'T do
>Elves
having a lot of sex >Orcs
lower than Black folk >fairies
getting raped by anyone that can afford them >dwarves
running banks >wizards
exploited by dwarves >humans
normies that have a burniing desire to have sex with elves even if it means submitting to them in the form of femdom and what not, hot human women would be choking on elf wiener
I'll give you a hint, Eru Illuvatar is the Christian god and as predicted by Huan he entered the world in human form to free mankind of the marring done to Arda by Melkor.
>Or does "lotr slop" have a monopoly on fantasy?
It probably always will, there's a vehement group of people who ruin authors who don't fellate Tolkien
>It probably always will, there's a vehement group of people who ruin authors who don't fellate Tolkien
I desire to know more.
Can you please spoonfeed me with some links for further reading?
I really dislike JRPG gameplay and grinding and therefore have not felt this oversaturation.
Anything you can recommend that isn't turn-based and also not overly "anime" that fits this bill?
to clarify:
chrono is still turnbased but you dont need to grind and turnbased is what makes it easily playable on the move. If you want action then there is secret of evermore.
LOTRBlack folk are cultists, and I say this as someone who loved reading Tolkien. If you ever slightly deviate from it in any meaningful way you will trigger the horde. They have a very orkish behaviour ironically
I'm a LOTRBlack person and I'm perfectly fine with japanese elf deviated depiction even though it's a bastardization of Tolkien's image. What now homosexual?
I remember some homosexual arguing with me about because he claimed that Arcanum wasn't fantasy, since it's not in medieval times.
I think i still haven't regenerated any braincells lost in that conversation.
is there a relation between homm and might&magic games of 4 dudes party with 3d world and on/off turnbased combat? Always wondered if just similiar name
Everything pre-ubisoft (HOMM5 and after) is the same universe (And planet pre-HOMM4). HOMM just doesn't really show any Sci-fi stuff in it, but all sci fi stuff is still part of the setting.
Hence why the big stink from HOMMgays who never played MM, since an integral part of the game's lore was never really revealed to them until Forge was announced.
Not like it's exclusive. Warcraft has plenty of steampunk too but it is considered fantasy.
I think he never even heard of arcanum until that. It was the "Guns and technology = no fantasy" moronation. I might still have the conversation archived somewhere but i'm afraid i'll suffer immense psychic damage rereading all that. He was just way too moronic on the subject.
What i meant is arcanums full title was "of steampunk&magic" so i would expect most going alright it says steampunk so its steampunk.
WoW btw might be thread relevant. They have space ship goat race that sought refugee on the planet and fights medieval style weapons, the world hosts a bunch of ancient relics from creators long gone. And there is cthulhu too lurking somewhere.
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Wow is in this weird state where the writers keep trying to remold it while still keeping it wow because they are incapable of making their own setting.
Draenor, though, was a thing since wc2, essentially making orcs post-apoc survivors, but i don't think the events that happened during the setting games qualify as OP example.
https://i.imgur.com/k9AEVML.gif
>Fantasy game >it's actually a post apocalyptic game
Not really fantasy, but Vangers human-insect war lore was one hell of a trippy reveal, especially if you play perimeter and start noticing even more details that aren't spoken about Like Spobs being a human spaceship and Parafin being not just a computerm, but a rotten away skull of a navigator that was bound to it.
Fantasy can take place in the future after a disaster. Or does "lotr slop" have a monopoly on fantasy?
Don't LOTR takes place in a universe before modern age? I think I read somewhere down the line that during modern age in Tolkien-verse magic will return signaling the apocalypse?
I think he means something like Adventure Time or the Wizards where the fantasy creatures are just mutants and magic is something like psychic powers caused by radiation
He means fantasy in the style of gene wolff, Michael moorwiener, and to a lesser extent GRRM (all of his books, including game of thrones, are meant to be set in a far distant future earth where dragons have been genetically engineered as war machines and magic is a natural mutation). This style is pretty much the entire basis for 40K and all assosciated media and games.
>are meant to be set in a far distant future earth where dragons have been genetically engineered as war machines
wasn't this the hidden lore of monster hunter games? hunters being the offspring of genetically engineered super soldiers, monsters being zoological weapons and whatnot?
Yes, it's fun to speculate about the "future" world that ASOIAF takes place in, but nothing is for sure. Don't act like you actually have any evidence that it takes place in the future.
FF1 takes place in a post apocalypse caused by someone going back in time to make a contract with demons before Jesus made it impossible.
For FF6, they don't even wait to reveal it to you, it's right there in the introduction. Shit was more modern, then magic happened.
FF3 and FF8 take place on the same goddamn planet and the apocalypses (plural) just keeps setting people back centuries at a time.
>FF3 and FF8 take place on the same goddamn planet and the apocalypses (plural) just keeps setting people back centuries at a time.
This is like saying FFIX and FFII are the same continuity because of Ramuh's detailed account of Josef's story.
Idk what he's talking about with the VIII and III being connected, but it is true that III has apocalypses setting the world back thousands of years at a time. That's official lore.
the video that was posted in the thread already told me how moronic this shit is going to be so thanks for posting more I love when the planets get so close to earth to the point of making 0 sense
Anon, this makes no sense... Astronomers have mapped the planetary movement since the Big Bang till now; they would know if this phenomenon ever occurred.
I bet you also believe that a magical advanced kingdom like the Tartaria stuff ever existed
>they would know if this phenomenon ever occurred.
That's the entire point of this shit, that they hide it for some reason (an entire rabbit hole about a ongoing corrupted and perverted form of the ancient Babylonian cult of Saturn) >I bet you also believe...
what makes YOU believe that?
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I know what I say, you're just regurgitating psycho shit from /x/
3 months ago
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My point is that your "also" implies that you think I believe in what I've had posted, I'm confused as to why would you think that.
3 months ago
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That was a typo
3 months ago
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Great, now it makes less sense. With my post not making you think that I believe in the contents of my own post, what would had made you think I believe such Tartaria stuff of yours?
common ancient human symbols represent scientific models of extreme natural phenomena regarding the sun.
we already know that the great flood of every ancient religion happened because of the ice age ended and that melted ice raising sea levels 80 metres.
this is another ancient belief that has actual accuracy and it brings other ancient beliefs like ancient empires, mythological leaders, etc into scrutiny.
this directly supports the Atlantis legend, so who knows what else it'd support. Ultimately we've realised that we're far, far older than recorded history, and there have loads of major civilisations and people that were just wiped out of memory by a significant global event caused by the sun.
ive been thinking about this. Logically speaking if there were a previous high-tech society your first concern would be leftover nukes / viruses etc. . So you would try your best to convince everyone there is nothing to find while trying to search hard before anyone accidentally stumbles over it.
The anthropologists who are researching the pre-ice age missing evolutionary gap believe that high tech societies of the day were about as advanced as the Romans maybe, certainly not modern or futuristic level. That's because of recurrent disasters in the mythology that conform to scientific models of extreme weather phenomena (including meteorites), which would have been a lot more common during a period of solar intensity. The pre-Roman stage of civilisational development was extremely vulnerable because it depended on so many factors that were out of control (superior neighbours etc). Back then a major empire getting wiped out "by the wrath of God" (ie getting hit by a meteor) could easily be a common risk for people. Ultimately, this gives the common mythologies across global religions a historical basis, even if it is only speculative it gives a reason why people passed these stories down: because it actually happened, and the fine detail got lost in multi-generational Chinese whispers.
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just look at our 2024 years history an compare to homosexual sapiens exists for over 100k years. There is no reason it didnt happen before. Models for a collapse estimate our current society would cease to have traces in about 6k years. We could have gone through numerous cycles. There are even suspect artifacts like the pirei reis map that shows antarctic coastline under the ice.
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It is bizarre to me that we still don't really have a decent idea as to why the Bronze Age experience a near simultaneous collapse and every just accepts all of that as a regular truth.
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most people accept the mythology of giant lizard critters (with feathers now) wandering around a gorillion years ago. Most people don't care about real history, and the answer to that question is likely buried by the history book writers.
We are living in the post-apocalypse of ancient Atlantean Earth when gods used to live among humans. Now they live underground/underwater and send their ayylmao slave race pets to keep an eye on us.
>post ice age meltdown apocalypse >post bronze age collapse apocalypse >post roman empire apocalypse >post black plague apocalypse
too much end of the world stuff in my humble opinion
>There's always an alien battle cruiser, or a Corellian Death Ray, or an intergalactic plague that's about to wipe out life on this miserable little planet. The only way these people get on with their happy lives is they do. Not. Know about it.
Any FR D&D Game (Faerun is post-lizard empire apocalypse)
Any Pathfinder Game (Golarion is post nuclear annihilation by meteor apocalypse)
Breath of Fire 3 (post God's wrath apocalypse and massive tech hoarding)
Final fantasy 6 (Literally pre-apocalypse and post-apocalypse and then post-post apocalypse in one game)
Final Fantasy 14 (Post-Post-Post-Post-Post-Post-Post-Post-Post-Post-Apocalypse)
Post-apoc theme isn't restricted to high tech civs getting nuked back to the stone age tho.
No Monster Hunter is NOT post-apoc stop listening to headcanon, it's degrading civ-core where people move on over time after getting their shit pushed in my frick you monsters for generations, it's not about a large event deleting a massive civ, it's about people moving on and leaving ruins over time. But they did have cool tech stashed in the past.
Vermintide
Fallout 3 (women are as strong as men which is fantasy they should have less hp, less INT; STR, PER, END, AGI, less small guns skills and less everything skills except barter and speech)
Crystalis
Final Fantasy 1
Ultima: Exodus
Wizardry 6 into 7(your party from six can board a spaceship in the castle and adventure into the stars in seven)
One of The Bard's Tale games ends on a spaceship
It was a recurring theme with Quintet's SNES games. Actraiser, Soul Blazer, and Terranigma all deal with reconstructing the world after an apocalyptic event.
The other recurring theme was flaming sword-beams.
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Soul Blazer and Terranigma are part of the same series along with Illusion of Gaia.
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Yes, but I don't recall Illusion doing the whole "rebuild the world" thing. I might have to look at the re-translation again.
It doesn't have any relevance to the story directly though. You're also better off trying Sandrock, Portia is very very jank even if I don't know if Sandrock has the same allusions.
The entire pre-ubisoft might and magic series. >Angels are androids >Demons are aliens >Spaceships, laser guns, AI computers
HOMMgays who never even heard of MM made such a huge stinky about it back in the day when devs were trying to add the forge faction, because they went full grognard thinking it was an off-setting asspull and the faction had to be cut for devs to be able to make it home alive.
Technically HOMM4 qualifies twice since the entire planet from previous games gets nuked by two magic swords clashing at the beginning of it and people flee to another one.
is there a relation between homm and might&magic games of 4 dudes party with 3d world and on/off turnbased combat? Always wondered if just similiar name
Atelier Dusk series
Etrian Odyssey series
FF1, FF Tactics and probably a whole bunch of other FF games tbh
FE Three Houses
A bunch of Might & Magic games
Stranger of sword city or whatever it's called
Ultima series
Valkyria Chronicles sorta
A few of the Wizardry games
Ys series
>Ys series
Technically yes, but it's not what most people think of when they read "post-apocalyptic"
What I mean is, that it's technically post-apocalyptic because there was an ancient civilization that collapsed in the past, but the "post-apocalypse" genre usually has a more modern civilization collapsing (often the real world, not a fully fictional one). So I don't think Ys counts as a post-apocalyptic game.
Pretty sure that's more or less what happens in the movie The Wizards >humanity wiped itself with nuclear weapons >fantasy creatures and magic reappear on the world >the big bad wizard wants to frick everyone up >finds a stache of guns and literal nazi propaganda >gives his mutant army guns to wreck the fairies using spears and shit
The Wizard is such a trash film dude. Sure its got muh lore, but the animation and actual storyline is so schizo and on the nose with its themes that its just bad. Not to mention it has terrible animated breasts.
ancient techonolgy is a terrible meme and should stop, if ancient technology is modern technology (drones, nukes, super sonic missiles, satelites, tank factories, nuclear reactors, etc) then its kino but the shiny hallway aesthetic is overdone and cringe.
no, they would be able to make pipeguns even if they are as bad as the ones in Fallout 4. The knowledge is there somebody would find modern weaponry and figure it out little by little.
The tribes in the peripheries are fricked though, those would be like the tribes Yoshua Garham or whatever his name is from Honest Hearts takes care of. Complitely tribal making weapons with trash steel with hard objects found aorund the environment.
>the empire has actual guns from before the war, or at the very least reproductions made by knowledgable and talented gunsmiths >less powerful kingdoms use shoddy pipe guns like the ones third world gangs use >tribals use fire lances or Black personfied versions of handgonnes
Idk where i'm going with this but i like it
I have another version im world building where an species that is going extinct made all the weaponry, its modern industrialization level and the other sapiens species simply doesnt get yet how to use it or produce it and its as simple as that. This species is so old tho its going extinct and no they dont shoot lasers and pew pew bullshit, i said modern industrialization for a reason.
Making black powder is easy.
making brass casings for it and then stuffing a bullet down the middle is a bit more complex.
muzzleloading or ball and cap would be the the regression of guns.
This is a very interesting topic, you might enjoy learning about the bronze age collapse. The bronze age was very similar to the modern world in how it worked, there were even expedited delivery systems that could move things from greece to very far east in days, not weeks. We've found shipping ledgers and even complaints from one guy who was sending the sandals back like we might make a return to Amazon complaining their size wasn't right. In some cases entire languages died out within just two generations. All they built, their entire way of life and it fell to very nearly nothing. Some of the technology we're still only just now rediscovering in the case of self repairing concrete. It's possible if civilization collapsed like that again that technology may, as it did with the bronze age, go in an entirely different direction. With so few surface level mineral deposits left there wouldn't be much in the way of metal materials, it might force things to be very different.
>With so few surface level mineral deposits left there wouldn't be much in the way of metal materials, it might force things to be very different.
Yeah. I read that we pretty much exhausted nearly all surface-level fossil fuels and metal minerals, it's impossible to get any more without our current systems in place. If all advanced machinery got destroyed for some reason and our technology level was reset, humanity would probably spend the next million years at no more than medieval level unless some meteorites brought shit to us. Really interesting if you think about it, this planet's only chance at exploring space will be extinguished forever if our current society collapses even once from this point onward.
This is a very interesting topic, you might enjoy learning about the bronze age collapse. The bronze age was very similar to the modern world in how it worked, there were even expedited delivery systems that could move things from greece to very far east in days, not weeks. We've found shipping ledgers and even complaints from one guy who was sending the sandals back like we might make a return to amazon complaining their size wasn't right. In some cases entire languages died out within just two generations. All they built, their entire way of life and it fell to very nearly nothing. Some of the technology we're still only just now rediscovering in the case of self repairing concrete. It's possible if civilization collapsed like that again that technology may, as it did with the bronze age, go in an entirely different direction. With so few surface level mineral deposits left there wouldn't be much in the way of metal materials, it might force things to be very different.
tectonic movement & vulcanoes would resupply surface. Wonder how long it takes though.
>drilling past bedrock heading straight towards the mantle will not become economically viable and potentially hazardous in parts of the world with heavy tectonic shifts >asteroid mining is the next best thing since you have a literal inexhaustible supply of material to work with between the inner asteroid belt and the furthest reaches of the Oort Cloud >the hardest part will be developing the systems to launch, mine, process and refine everything in space before sending it back to Earth >this rules out the cheapstake companies hellbent on maximum profits with equally max wastage because once you fill the upper atmosphere with shit you run the risk of fricking over all future launches from the last several decades worth of accumulated space junk
>there were even expedited delivery systems that could move things from greece to very far east in days, not weeks
sounds implausible. source? >We've found shipping ledgers and even complaints from one guy who was sending the sandals back like we might make a return to amazon complaining their size wasn't right.
This was Hammurabi, and the gift - a pair of shoes in the ''Minoan style'' - was from Zimri-Lim. Zimri-Lim was king of Mari, a city state in southeastern Syria - so close to Babylon. >All they built, their entire way of life and it fell to very nearly nothing.
not to nothing, but definitely a setback that took a few hundred years to recover. >Some of the technology we're still only just now rediscovering in the case of self repairing concrete.
this is roman, not bronze age
Technology is not a linear progression, nor is it one where necessity is uniform. If you blow up all of humanity in a nuclear holocaust and the only survivors are forced to inherit the obliterated ruins of civilization, their first goals will be securing sustenance and shelter. After which, they will attempt to figure out how to procure/develop more of both until they have a noticeable/significant surplus, and until then, the only actual resemblance to a military will be formed by thieves, bandits, and the like who have found their sustenance from stealing and shelter on the road. Whatever weapons are developed from there will be built to initially counter common threats, and then later to counter new threats, and so-on. If someone finds out that enough metal plates means you can effectively walk around and shrug off one type of weapon, you will have to build a weapon to counter that, and so-on. "From Scratch" isn't even a good descriptor, because firearms as we know it only come from their varied histories of application around the world since their inception. We could just as likely see a world of cannons flattening small towns as a world that has decided that guns are not worth the effort when you can just out-armor or out-maneuver the shoddy messes that are put together in a haste to reclaim a ranged advantage without sufficient supplies.
yeah true we can already destroy entire cities if we want to, we just hold back. If "humanitarian law" which is a modern invention goes out the window we might as well just do war the fast way.
>faction stylized as knights using car doors as shields and lawnmower blades as swords, wearing sports equipment >napoleonic style faction using caplock muskets made out of pipes wearing a mix of salvaged military outfits and suits stolen from museums
Your post got me thinking of a post-apocalyptic world that has mostly regressed back to medieval times with the exception of super heavy artillery.
No handheld guns because making small ammunition and firing mechanisms is a pain in the ass and having to start mostly from scratch means they're not very effective either compared to the armor that's being made.
However plenty of resources are being put into heavy artillery. Devices like 155mm cannons and 16 inch artillery are plentiful.
Want to kill one man from a mile away? Not happening. Want to erase the entire fricking town where he's standing from a hundred miles away? You got it.
without an industrial complex to support it, pretty much. You'd get people capable of reloading and making blackpowder cartridges, but there'd be no one to make artisan muskets, no one to make the steel to be used in said muskets. You'd have to have some hardcore survivalists restart civilization from the ground up, probably relatively quickly. Relying on scavenged materials is obviously something unsustainable, so ironically it would be societies that regress the most that could start making new guns from their own materials, rather than jury rigging regular modern rifles to work with blackpowder.
Depends on how much knowledge on chemistry and abillitiy to supply chemicals manage to survive since that is the real bottleneck just like how it was in the past, when niter had to be imported at exorbitant prices before people figured out that piss and shit was a good source for nitre around the late 15th century.
>Fantasy MC describes an ancient picture he saw as a kid >It depicts a man in strange armor holding an unusually stiff banner surrounded by a barren landscape >Actually get to see the picture
>the town's master smith wants to give you a weapon that has passed down from generation to generation as a sign of his eternal grattitude >it's a fricking double barrel shotgun
MC describes an ancient picture he saw as a kid >>It depicts a man in strange armor holding an unusually stiff banner surrounded by a barren landscape
Oh my science/pringles I love BOTNS!
>the town's master smith wants to give you a weapon that has passed down from generation to generation as a sign of his eternal grattitude >it's a fricking double barrel shotgun
Technically already finished with most of the key points already written out as notes
It was just planned to be longer but at least the ending was how the author would've wanted it instead of it getting fricked by wokegays wanting more "diversity"
no, they are just apocalyptic, the point of the game is that the apocalypse gets prevented everytime until 3 where u can choose not to give a frick anymore. everything will repeat anyway it just takes longer.
Just because the apocalypse can get even worse doesn't mean it hasn't already happened. How many people are alive, nevermind sane in the world during the events of the game?
Nta, i only played 3, but i always got the idea that the rest of the world was, ok at best, and that it was just the areas that we visited that were completely fricked
thats how it is, where do you think all the other npcs come from. They have economies and cities and shit they just started feeling "undead" "hollow" so they decided to visit whatever place the game takes place in, to try to heal their condition.
>Elves, Orcs, and Dwarves are just offshoots of humans after generations of mutations >"Magic" is just a side effect of radiation manifesting itself through psychic ppowers, killing the user the more its used >zombies are just emaciated humans/animals kept alive thanks to radiation >golems are just military robots
>PSO lore: everyone is dead, the government is pure evil and caused the apocalypse and now they're trying to bio engineer Satan to create Satan bioweapons
>Demons are just mutants >What the heroes believe to be hell is just an ancient and highly developed city >Radioactivity is introduced as a new status infliction at the very end
>seemingly fun, idealistic world is actually holding dark fricked up lore and is at threat of constant annihilation!
Can we please have a utopia that's just a fricking utopia for once?
I like the idea that the utopia exists because there are people putting in work to protect that utopia.
A story where the main character either deliberately or accidentally destroys the utopia could be pretty cool though. In that setting you could have a utopia that would continue to exist forever if the main character had not intervened.
>deliberately
Accidentally due his mere presence introducing thoughts of maybe living always like this wasn't the best option and we should try something else is better.
A civilization that has been so long at the top it doesn't even notice they are on the mountain and all steps lead down.
>sci-fi / fantasy game >mysterious super-advanced artifacts from a mysterious super-advanced civilization that got wiped out >it was humans
It's lame every time.
Reminds me of Turn X from Turn A gundam >found drifting in outer space >apparently was left behind by super smart humans that fricked off to another galaxy long ago >supposedly it's a grunt tier robot, but compared to current Earth tech it's extremely advanced and causes a war that divides the people on Earth
Why should "Fantasy" be regulated to any setting? If I put a Native American spirit warrior sheriff in space and made his best friend a robot horse, is that not fantasy?
I want more ideal traditionnal fantasy worlds like in DQ
i'm sick of Zanzibart shit, desolate lands, all castles and all constructions in general are in ruins etc...
Phantasy Star 4 does this wonderfully, though it's common knowledge among the people that things used to be more advanced, they're completely clueless to the sheer extent of it.
one of my current game projects is this. >gods are lovecraftian archons that will eat the souls of 99% of all life after they die >ayy lmaos figure this out through advanced science and panic >they build a no-ship to hide from the gods >the no-ship crashlands on a generic fantasy world during its high elven era >this causes an apocalypse which leads to the rise of mankind >4000 years later, the ayys are aided by evil human and !elven sorcerers to complete a superweapon from deep within the bowels of the crashed no-ship >a human giga-autist causality monk figures this out and realizes how bad it could be >he makes himself into a messiah-antichrist like figure to unite all the nations of man under his banner and march against the ancient foe
thanks anon it's not exactly original but then again, what is?
What would happen if the gods didn't eat the souls?
The way you describe it makes it seem as if the ayys are opposed to humans of the game world. Is it just because the humans are worshiping those gods or is there some deeper reason to it?
As for that superweapon, what do they intend to kill with it? The gods?
>What would happen if the gods didn't eat the souls? >The way you describe it makes it seem as if the ayys are opposed to humans of the game world. Is it just because the humans are worshiping those gods or is there some deeper reason to it? >As for that superweapon, what do they intend to kill with it? The gods?
the ayys ultimately want to starve the gods
so they want to go after the gods' livestock: humanity. starve them out by depriving them of souls.
the superweapon's real function is preventing all births while it is active, effectively shutting the material world off from the spiritual world.
What would happen if the gods didn't eat the souls?
The way you describe it makes it seem as if the ayys are opposed to humans of the game world. Is it just because the humans are worshiping those gods or is there some deeper reason to it?
As for that superweapon, what do they intend to kill with it? The gods?
Book of the New Sun is so fricking kino and I have no idea why nobody has capitalized on a setting like it. The closest we ever got was Amano's shit for early Final Fantasy but that barely translated into the games.
I can see Fromsoftware doing something like this in 8 years when they make their open world ARPG successor to ER.
If you think about it Elden Ring combat mechanics, especially how spells and aow work, perfectly fit the kind of technology in a setting like BotNS
>Elden Ring combat mechanics, especially how spells and aow work, perfectly fit the kind of technology in a setting like BotNS
You have never read Book of the New Sun.
How does it fit the setting of BoTNS?
I learned about it from the anon you quoted, and it sounds really cool, added it to my reading list ,but Elden Ring is just normal high fantasy.
From the synopses I read, BoTNS is more like high sci-fi mixed with low society after a catastrophic event. There is no scifi in ER, no spaceships, rockets, cloning, etc.
Any other games like that?
The only thing i know is stella glow.
Seriously. Would be cool to go to "dungeons" being just old modern or future tech ruins and "magic" is just future tech that people cant explain. Also magic disease is just nanites with failed programming..
It can be done in interesting ways if it weren't always so derivative. >Technology in post apocalypse so advanced due to the exploitation of a Tiberium style resource >Post apocalypse killed millions and infected more >Those infected become powerful casters able to synergize with body modification and master casting powers by manipulating matter or creating portals >Technology faction vs cyborg-magic faction
I had an idea for a setting like that back in like middle school, except it was way more in your face and not actually post-apoc but a natural progression of the world.
The premise was that the technological progress was extremely advanced, but the designs were stuck on a medieval level, so you had mages being essentially mechanicus with flamethrower tubes body-horrorly running through their arms, Hippie anti-tech elves who were the laughing stock of the entire setting, and Dwarves, whose factory-fortresses were polluting the frick out of the environment they are built in so much that elves that were living nearby mutated into orcs, for whom making making a step without dying was a sign of massive intelligence, and centaurs that were augmented raiders, with the horse body being a very crude boston-dynamics like construction out of scrap, gauss crossbows and Nuke-throwing ballistas. There was no actual magic or gods whatsoever, it was all either people forming a cult around their technology, or the Orc system of making a religion that was "Take random object call it god and worship it", which, amongst other things, once had a dwarf trapped in a tower surrounded by an orc tribe, who didn't even know he was their "God" called "Little shooter" and thought the orcs were planning (rookie mistake) how to take him out. He's long since dead but if the tribe even managed to survive a week after that - they'd probably worship his decomposing corpse too.
The powerscaling was fricked beyond all recognition, but the rule of cool was the main goal and man, it was a fun idea to think about.
what about the inverse, where the fantasy culture / magic is wiped out and replaced by a technological society? magic exists but is totally forgotten, except for some super rare artifacts etc. i do this in my tabletop setting btw.
common reasoning is shield tech can divert projectiles. You can buy very expensive guns that shoot shit that goes through but meele weapons is way cheaper and people are poor.
You seriously don't want to puncture the hull of the spaceship you're fighting over so no sane person would use a gun inside a space ship. Then that martial culture spread to planetside.
Not that hard to explain.
>Setting is a mix between super high tech sci-fi and medieval fantasy >Has stuff like the evil undead empire having an entire spacefleet despite everything being relegated to one planet >You mostly don't think about it because it's most likely the devs just throwing in whatever they find cool >It turns out that the god of the setting haphazardly merged every single alternate reality into one universe >In doing so, he also genocided almost every single other god in existence
I like that Breath of the Wild is post-apocalyptic, almost Fallout 1-ish in that the world before the calamity is barely in living memory outside of particularly long-lived characters like Impa, Purah or Sidon, and so much of the world is in its small isolated communities, and all you get is brief glimpses of the old world. The world seems barely interested in what Link is getting up to and rather than the upbeat adventurous leitmotifs of Ocarina of Time or Twilight Princess's Hyrule fields, it's melancholy and lonely.
And then Tears of the Kingdom goes much further. The settlements are all larger and more developed and you get people roaming the world actively trying to protect what they've built. Lookout Landing is right at the foot of Hyrule Castle itself and is actively putting in work investigating the Upheaval, Gloom and ultimately guiding Link to taking down Ganon himself. All the different races interact much more and Lookout Landing gets more active as Link finishes up quests. You find bands of soldiers taking the fight to gangs of moblins and things. Hudson's construction has shit set up everywhere. It makes that encroaching threat of Ganondorf that much more meaningful, that Link's failure would mean everyone's efforts are for naught.
The field theme is a lot less fragmented, though still appropriately subdued.
Dumps would be a great place to mine for materials if we do hit a collapse. I think humans will be fine but it will be the end of electronic technology.
In order to control my traumatic brain injury brought about by drug induced psychosis when smoking crack cocaine in the early 80s (i was part of the governments operations to import crack from south america to the inner cities [i am 78 years old]) i have begun day drinking and using opiods to manage my episodes which include using the entropy drive to drive me to and from work.
My doctor said he will pray everytime i drive so i began with an exhortation to the pancreator that the world mover uses its entropy power to move the world as i please then i turn the key and the world movement process has been initialized. Sometimes during the experience i hallucinate the horrified faces of children and teleporters in my scribing mirrors and strange lights which hurt my eyes during the entropic process.
Apparently the demiurge likes to torture me by forcing my hands to be on the samsara totem because he punishes me with wailing and images of blood and red and blue and green lights if i let go of the moksha pivoter.
When the world stops its entropic process i sometimes have double vision or sight of scrying the past and there are always flames. Once the shapeshifters tried to take me to the DUMBS but a woman pretending to be my adult daughter spoke in code to the annunaki adjudicator and all all I have to do is pretend I didnt dissolve the sorcerers stone into my tabernacle.
>Fantasy Game >It's actually Sci-Fi with advanced technology far surpassing our own and rivalling that of Star Trek
I'm talking about World of Warcraft.
>Advanced civilization knows they're in deep and messing with universal shit they shouldn't >Lore shows that they were purposefully dumbing down their tech so that following civilizations could figure it out.
Kino
>1990-2020 human civilization are called First/Ancient/Original ones” >There are dragons, goblins, talking furries, witches, etc. But everything is powered by nano-machines, no magic >Sometimes they find "ancient tech": a regular laptop, a videogame console,etc
>world has actual magic >people keep making references to the "age of legends" when everything was much more advanced >character gets a flashback >sees "a mythical landscape full of silver towers" >they're skyscrapers >turns out it's just the future and the magic came from people drilling into Hell
>protagonist is on the brink of death, remember his/her previous life 2,000 years ago, a normal life in a average family in Japan or USA, instead of being the hero who killed the Demon King
is that bejitas mouth
i think its vegito
Fantasy can take place in the future after a disaster. Or does "lotr slop" have a monopoly on fantasy?
LOTR does take place in the future after a disaster btw.
It's literally the past though
What is the present LOTR world like?
Ever seen the movie Bright with Will Smith and the Orc?
>director got canceled and we'll never get a sequel
It's not fricking fair
Urban fantasy is in dire need of more content, i really like the idea of gangsta orcs doing drive bys with pepperboxes and swat units that look like knights and shit
yeah the problem with that is drawing the connection between literal orcs and black people
Is that a problem? Orcs are cool, are gays saying that black people aren't cool? Tyrone give my greenskin here a volley
>Is that a problem?
not for me, but for other people it is.
honestly I think most racially typed fantasy stories are boring (and Bright was dogshit) but it isn't something you COULDN'T do, it is something you WOULDN'T do
>Elves
having a lot of sex
>Orcs
lower than Black folk
>fairies
getting raped by anyone that can afford them
>dwarves
running banks
>wizards
exploited by dwarves
>humans
normies that have a burniing desire to have sex with elves even if it means submitting to them in the form of femdom and what not, hot human women would be choking on elf wiener
Fella, you're living in it.
Tolkien was right.
>he doesn't know
Look out the window
Lotr takes place in the very far away past. in the lotr timeline, our present is like the 7th or 8th age
I'll give you a hint, Eru Illuvatar is the Christian god and as predicted by Huan he entered the world in human form to free mankind of the marring done to Arda by Melkor.
>I'll give you a hint, Eru Illuvatar is the Christian god
that's not a hit, that's merely moronness
>Or does "lotr slop" have a monopoly on fantasy?
It probably always will, there's a vehement group of people who ruin authors who don't fellate Tolkien
>It probably always will, there's a vehement group of people who ruin authors who don't fellate Tolkien
I desire to know more.
Can you please spoonfeed me with some links for further reading?
The setting OP mentions is done to death by japanese devs
Japan loves the post-apoc fantasy plot twist. As another poster said, it's been done to death in games, but you also see it way too much in anime.
I really dislike JRPG gameplay and grinding and therefore have not felt this oversaturation.
Anything you can recommend that isn't turn-based and also not overly "anime" that fits this bill?
emulate Chrono trigger. You can even do it on a phone if you travel a lot and got downtime to play.
to clarify:
chrono is still turnbased but you dont need to grind and turnbased is what makes it easily playable on the move. If you want action then there is secret of evermore.
LOTRBlack folk are cultists, and I say this as someone who loved reading Tolkien. If you ever slightly deviate from it in any meaningful way you will trigger the horde. They have a very orkish behaviour ironically
I'm a LOTRBlack person and I'm perfectly fine with japanese elf deviated depiction even though it's a bastardization of Tolkien's image. What now homosexual?
I remember some homosexual arguing with me about because he claimed that Arcanum wasn't fantasy, since it's not in medieval times.
I think i still haven't regenerated any braincells lost in that conversation.
Everything pre-ubisoft (HOMM5 and after) is the same universe (And planet pre-HOMM4). HOMM just doesn't really show any Sci-fi stuff in it, but all sci fi stuff is still part of the setting.
Hence why the big stink from HOMMgays who never played MM, since an integral part of the game's lore was never really revealed to them until Forge was announced.
> homosexual arguing with me about because he claimed that Arcanum wasn't fantasy
arcanum was advertised as steampunk thats probably why.
Not like it's exclusive. Warcraft has plenty of steampunk too but it is considered fantasy.
I think he never even heard of arcanum until that. It was the "Guns and technology = no fantasy" moronation. I might still have the conversation archived somewhere but i'm afraid i'll suffer immense psychic damage rereading all that. He was just way too moronic on the subject.
What i meant is arcanums full title was "of steampunk&magic" so i would expect most going alright it says steampunk so its steampunk.
WoW btw might be thread relevant. They have space ship goat race that sought refugee on the planet and fights medieval style weapons, the world hosts a bunch of ancient relics from creators long gone. And there is cthulhu too lurking somewhere.
Wow is in this weird state where the writers keep trying to remold it while still keeping it wow because they are incapable of making their own setting.
Draenor, though, was a thing since wc2, essentially making orcs post-apoc survivors, but i don't think the events that happened during the setting games qualify as OP example.
Not really fantasy, but Vangers human-insect war lore was one hell of a trippy reveal, especially if you play perimeter and start noticing even more details that aren't spoken about Like Spobs being a human spaceship and Parafin being not just a computerm, but a rotten away skull of a navigator that was bound to it.
Don't LOTR takes place in a universe before modern age? I think I read somewhere down the line that during modern age in Tolkien-verse magic will return signaling the apocalypse?
>lotr slop
finish the book, fatass
>Or does "lotr slop" have a monopoly on fantasy?
No but it should.
sounds KINO
how does that work they didnt have nukes back then
I think he means something like Adventure Time or the Wizards where the fantasy creatures are just mutants and magic is something like psychic powers caused by radiation
So Remnant of The Ashes?
Thats incredibly based.
He means fantasy in the style of gene wolff, Michael moorwiener, and to a lesser extent GRRM (all of his books, including game of thrones, are meant to be set in a far distant future earth where dragons have been genetically engineered as war machines and magic is a natural mutation). This style is pretty much the entire basis for 40K and all assosciated media and games.
>are meant to be set in a far distant future earth where dragons have been genetically engineered as war machines
wasn't this the hidden lore of monster hunter games? hunters being the offspring of genetically engineered super soldiers, monsters being zoological weapons and whatnot?
thats what the lore was originally going to be iirc but they didn't go with it after all
>All of his books [headcanon]
Yes, it's fun to speculate about the "future" world that ASOIAF takes place in, but nothing is for sure. Don't act like you actually have any evidence that it takes place in the future.
Age of decadence?
You can achieve apocalypse by other means like pandemics, natural disasters, meteorites, ANCIENT EVIL AWAKENS then fricks off
>how does that work they didnt have nukes back then
Spoken as a nofur
FF1 takes place in a post apocalypse caused by someone going back in time to make a contract with demons before Jesus made it impossible.
For FF6, they don't even wait to reveal it to you, it's right there in the introduction. Shit was more modern, then magic happened.
FF3 and FF8 take place on the same goddamn planet and the apocalypses (plural) just keeps setting people back centuries at a time.
>FF3 and FF8 take place on the same goddamn planet and the apocalypses (plural) just keeps setting people back centuries at a time.
This is like saying FFIX and FFII are the same continuity because of Ramuh's detailed account of Josef's story.
Anon, it's the same world map. Fricking look at it.
>Anon, it's the same world map. Fricking look at it.
I am, not seeing it with 3 and 8
>inb4 "when was the last time you played 3"
less than a month ago when the PR finally went on sale
Idk what he's talking about with the VIII and III being connected, but it is true that III has apocalypses setting the world back thousands of years at a time. That's official lore.
can't tell if trying to be funny or actually stupid
Shit are we living in the post-apocalypse times of the dinosaurs?
No but we are living in the post apocalyptic post flood world
>he thinks this arc of human civilization is the first one
Nah we are living in the post-mars timeline.
>THE AGE OF SHADOWS HAS BEGUUUUUUUUUUUN!
>We are "Forever"
Dinosaurs didn't exist
American post
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hehe benis :DDDDDDD
meanwhile on /x/
Interesting
Any place where I can research this?
first image literally has a website name in subtext.
I dont't get it??
>environmental phenomena influence society through anthropomorphic interpretations
>gets scoffed off as merely myths millennia later
what in the frick is this schizo shit
ancient redacted history
don't worry about it
Buckle your seatbelt Goym, 'cause Saturn is going bye-bye:
the video that was posted in the thread already told me how moronic this shit is going to be so thanks for posting more I love when the planets get so close to earth to the point of making 0 sense
pyosg
Anon, this makes no sense... Astronomers have mapped the planetary movement since the Big Bang till now; they would know if this phenomenon ever occurred.
I bet you also believe that a magical advanced kingdom like the Tartaria stuff ever existed
>they would know if this phenomenon ever occurred.
That's the entire point of this shit, that they hide it for some reason (an entire rabbit hole about a ongoing corrupted and perverted form of the ancient Babylonian cult of Saturn)
>I bet you also believe...
what makes YOU believe that?
I know what I say, you're just regurgitating psycho shit from /x/
My point is that your "also" implies that you think I believe in what I've had posted, I'm confused as to why would you think that.
That was a typo
Great, now it makes less sense. With my post not making you think that I believe in the contents of my own post, what would had made you think I believe such Tartaria stuff of yours?
common ancient human symbols represent scientific models of extreme natural phenomena regarding the sun.
we already know that the great flood of every ancient religion happened because of the ice age ended and that melted ice raising sea levels 80 metres.
this is another ancient belief that has actual accuracy and it brings other ancient beliefs like ancient empires, mythological leaders, etc into scrutiny.
this directly supports the Atlantis legend, so who knows what else it'd support. Ultimately we've realised that we're far, far older than recorded history, and there have loads of major civilisations and people that were just wiped out of memory by a significant global event caused by the sun.
ive been thinking about this. Logically speaking if there were a previous high-tech society your first concern would be leftover nukes / viruses etc. . So you would try your best to convince everyone there is nothing to find while trying to search hard before anyone accidentally stumbles over it.
The anthropologists who are researching the pre-ice age missing evolutionary gap believe that high tech societies of the day were about as advanced as the Romans maybe, certainly not modern or futuristic level. That's because of recurrent disasters in the mythology that conform to scientific models of extreme weather phenomena (including meteorites), which would have been a lot more common during a period of solar intensity. The pre-Roman stage of civilisational development was extremely vulnerable because it depended on so many factors that were out of control (superior neighbours etc). Back then a major empire getting wiped out "by the wrath of God" (ie getting hit by a meteor) could easily be a common risk for people. Ultimately, this gives the common mythologies across global religions a historical basis, even if it is only speculative it gives a reason why people passed these stories down: because it actually happened, and the fine detail got lost in multi-generational Chinese whispers.
just look at our 2024 years history an compare to homosexual sapiens exists for over 100k years. There is no reason it didnt happen before. Models for a collapse estimate our current society would cease to have traces in about 6k years. We could have gone through numerous cycles. There are even suspect artifacts like the pirei reis map that shows antarctic coastline under the ice.
It is bizarre to me that we still don't really have a decent idea as to why the Bronze Age experience a near simultaneous collapse and every just accepts all of that as a regular truth.
most people accept the mythology of giant lizard critters (with feathers now) wandering around a gorillion years ago. Most people don't care about real history, and the answer to that question is likely buried by the history book writers.
We are living in the post-apocalypse of ancient Atlantean Earth when gods used to live among humans. Now they live underground/underwater and send their ayylmao slave race pets to keep an eye on us.
post-Bronze Age collapse
Post-Roman Apocalypse
>post ice age meltdown apocalypse
>post bronze age collapse apocalypse
>post roman empire apocalypse
>post black plague apocalypse
too much end of the world stuff in my humble opinion
>There's always an alien battle cruiser, or a Corellian Death Ray, or an intergalactic plague that's about to wipe out life on this miserable little planet. The only way these people get on with their happy lives is they do. Not. Know about it.
Dark souls
dark souls is happening during the apocalypse
Xenoblade chronicles?
Etrian odyssey 1
>Environmentalism becomes a hot topic in 1990s Japan
>Literally every game, film, novel, manga, commercial, and even music from the time does this
I pretty much skipped all the story to get to the gameplay and I got confused why there's suddenly futuristic technology everywhere.
Name three
Pretty sure that Bethesda is trying to turn Fallout into this
Xenoblade
Xenoblade 2
Xenoblade 3 (actually a post-post-apocalypse that adds a third post by the end of it)
well Rex-chad is already re-populating the world after the 3ird post acopalypse with his 3 wives
E.S. Posthumus
Chrono trigger
FFX
Skies of Arcadia
Nier
stella glow
Phantasy Star 4
7th Dragon (the ds one)
Any FR D&D Game (Faerun is post-lizard empire apocalypse)
Any Pathfinder Game (Golarion is post nuclear annihilation by meteor apocalypse)
Breath of Fire 3 (post God's wrath apocalypse and massive tech hoarding)
Final fantasy 6 (Literally pre-apocalypse and post-apocalypse and then post-post apocalypse in one game)
Final Fantasy 14 (Post-Post-Post-Post-Post-Post-Post-Post-Post-Post-Apocalypse)
Post-apoc theme isn't restricted to high tech civs getting nuked back to the stone age tho.
No Monster Hunter is NOT post-apoc stop listening to headcanon, it's degrading civ-core where people move on over time after getting their shit pushed in my frick you monsters for generations, it's not about a large event deleting a massive civ, it's about people moving on and leaving ruins over time. But they did have cool tech stashed in the past.
Planet of the Apes (GBA)
Etrian Odyssey
SMT4
Vermintide
Fallout 3 (women are as strong as men which is fantasy they should have less hp, less INT; STR, PER, END, AGI, less small guns skills and less everything skills except barter and speech)
Crystalis
Final Fantasy 1
Ultima: Exodus
Wizardry 6 into 7(your party from six can board a spaceship in the castle and adventure into the stars in seven)
One of The Bard's Tale games ends on a spaceship
FF1
FFX
Terranigma (ends up being an inversion of the concept)
>Terranigma (ends up being an inversion of the concept)
So the world gets built back up?
not him but i believe actually yes. You jorney fixing the world reverting the destruction of the world.
Yes that's the entire game, you rebuild the world.
See also: Soul Blazer
It was a recurring theme with Quintet's SNES games. Actraiser, Soul Blazer, and Terranigma all deal with reconstructing the world after an apocalyptic event.
The other recurring theme was flaming sword-beams.
Soul Blazer and Terranigma are part of the same series along with Illusion of Gaia.
Yes, but I don't recall Illusion doing the whole "rebuild the world" thing. I might have to look at the re-translation again.
Jak 2
Enderal
NieR
My Time at Portia.
Interesting, might try it then
It doesn't have any relevance to the story directly though. You're also better off trying Sandrock, Portia is very very jank even if I don't know if Sandrock has the same allusions.
The entire Might & Magic series
Kenshi
Age of Decadence
Nier
Blue Dragon
Tales of Graces F
"Premise" is a strong word, but Robert Jordan's Wheel of Time if you follow the hints close enough
Mass Effect
The entire pre-ubisoft might and magic series.
>Angels are androids
>Demons are aliens
>Spaceships, laser guns, AI computers
HOMMgays who never even heard of MM made such a huge stinky about it back in the day when devs were trying to add the forge faction, because they went full grognard thinking it was an off-setting asspull and the faction had to be cut for devs to be able to make it home alive.
Technically HOMM4 qualifies twice since the entire planet from previous games gets nuked by two magic swords clashing at the beginning of it and people flee to another one.
is there a relation between homm and might&magic games of 4 dudes party with 3d world and on/off turnbased combat? Always wondered if just similiar name
Hammerfight
Fire Emblem Three Houses
Xenoblade
Legend of Heroes series to some extent
Tales of Arise
endless legend
you even play DURING the second apocalypse
Wait is Auriga supposed to be Earth?
Vampire Hunter D
Halo
Solatorobo
Atelier Dusk series
Etrian Odyssey series
FF1, FF Tactics and probably a whole bunch of other FF games tbh
FE Three Houses
A bunch of Might & Magic games
Stranger of sword city or whatever it's called
Ultima series
Valkyria Chronicles sorta
A few of the Wizardry games
Ys series
I'm probably forgetting a bunch.
>Ys series
Technically yes, but it's not what most people think of when they read "post-apocalyptic"
What I mean is, that it's technically post-apocalyptic because there was an ancient civilization that collapsed in the past, but the "post-apocalypse" genre usually has a more modern civilization collapsing (often the real world, not a fully fictional one). So I don't think Ys counts as a post-apocalyptic game.
digital devil saga 1-2
Sea of Stars
splatoon
Dark Souls
Dark Souls 2
Dark Souls 3
shit that was easy
>game features an abundant of alien species and cultures
>they all act like modern day humans
they would IRL though
Stay out of Earth, we're full.
Frick no. Why would they?
because the human form is the natural peak of evolution
If it gives me an excuse to drop "ancient technology" military hardware into my fantasy story then Im all for it.
Pretty sure that's more or less what happens in the movie The Wizards
>humanity wiped itself with nuclear weapons
>fantasy creatures and magic reappear on the world
>the big bad wizard wants to frick everyone up
>finds a stache of guns and literal nazi propaganda
>gives his mutant army guns to wreck the fairies using spears and shit
The Wizard is such a trash film dude. Sure its got muh lore, but the animation and actual storyline is so schizo and on the nose with its themes that its just bad. Not to mention it has terrible animated breasts.
Also they killed my boy Fritz.
ancient techonolgy is a terrible meme and should stop, if ancient technology is modern technology (drones, nukes, super sonic missiles, satelites, tank factories, nuclear reactors, etc) then its kino but the shiny hallway aesthetic is overdone and cringe.
Stupid question, but if there was a huge disaster that restarted civilization, would humanity have to start from scratch when it comes to guns?
no, they would be able to make pipeguns even if they are as bad as the ones in Fallout 4. The knowledge is there somebody would find modern weaponry and figure it out little by little.
The tribes in the peripheries are fricked though, those would be like the tribes Yoshua Garham or whatever his name is from Honest Hearts takes care of. Complitely tribal making weapons with trash steel with hard objects found aorund the environment.
>the empire has actual guns from before the war, or at the very least reproductions made by knowledgable and talented gunsmiths
>less powerful kingdoms use shoddy pipe guns like the ones third world gangs use
>tribals use fire lances or Black personfied versions of handgonnes
Idk where i'm going with this but i like it
I have another version im world building where an species that is going extinct made all the weaponry, its modern industrialization level and the other sapiens species simply doesnt get yet how to use it or produce it and its as simple as that. This species is so old tho its going extinct and no they dont shoot lasers and pew pew bullshit, i said modern industrialization for a reason.
hey wait a second i know you
Making black powder is easy.
making brass casings for it and then stuffing a bullet down the middle is a bit more complex.
muzzleloading or ball and cap would be the the regression of guns.
Do you or Johnny Mcdicks from the street know how to make gunpowder or mine and smith?
There's your answer.
This is a very interesting topic, you might enjoy learning about the bronze age collapse. The bronze age was very similar to the modern world in how it worked, there were even expedited delivery systems that could move things from greece to very far east in days, not weeks. We've found shipping ledgers and even complaints from one guy who was sending the sandals back like we might make a return to Amazon complaining their size wasn't right. In some cases entire languages died out within just two generations. All they built, their entire way of life and it fell to very nearly nothing. Some of the technology we're still only just now rediscovering in the case of self repairing concrete. It's possible if civilization collapsed like that again that technology may, as it did with the bronze age, go in an entirely different direction. With so few surface level mineral deposits left there wouldn't be much in the way of metal materials, it might force things to be very different.
>tfw I'm just like a guy who lived 5000 years ago
We're all gonna make it
>chinks have been making and shipping the wrong size clothes for 5000 years
Somehow I'm not surprised
>With so few surface level mineral deposits left there wouldn't be much in the way of metal materials, it might force things to be very different.
Yeah. I read that we pretty much exhausted nearly all surface-level fossil fuels and metal minerals, it's impossible to get any more without our current systems in place. If all advanced machinery got destroyed for some reason and our technology level was reset, humanity would probably spend the next million years at no more than medieval level unless some meteorites brought shit to us. Really interesting if you think about it, this planet's only chance at exploring space will be extinguished forever if our current society collapses even once from this point onward.
Good. Going all-in with a high-risk high-return bet is the most exciting way of playing.
tectonic movement & vulcanoes would resupply surface. Wonder how long it takes though.
>drilling past bedrock heading straight towards the mantle will not become economically viable and potentially hazardous in parts of the world with heavy tectonic shifts
>asteroid mining is the next best thing since you have a literal inexhaustible supply of material to work with between the inner asteroid belt and the furthest reaches of the Oort Cloud
>the hardest part will be developing the systems to launch, mine, process and refine everything in space before sending it back to Earth
>this rules out the cheapstake companies hellbent on maximum profits with equally max wastage because once you fill the upper atmosphere with shit you run the risk of fricking over all future launches from the last several decades worth of accumulated space junk
>there were even expedited delivery systems that could move things from greece to very far east in days, not weeks
sounds implausible. source?
>We've found shipping ledgers and even complaints from one guy who was sending the sandals back like we might make a return to amazon complaining their size wasn't right.
This was Hammurabi, and the gift - a pair of shoes in the ''Minoan style'' - was from Zimri-Lim. Zimri-Lim was king of Mari, a city state in southeastern Syria - so close to Babylon.
>All they built, their entire way of life and it fell to very nearly nothing.
not to nothing, but definitely a setback that took a few hundred years to recover.
>Some of the technology we're still only just now rediscovering in the case of self repairing concrete.
this is roman, not bronze age
>We've found shipping ledgers
Man
A post-current age collapse would be rightly fricked. Everything is digital.
Technology is not a linear progression, nor is it one where necessity is uniform. If you blow up all of humanity in a nuclear holocaust and the only survivors are forced to inherit the obliterated ruins of civilization, their first goals will be securing sustenance and shelter. After which, they will attempt to figure out how to procure/develop more of both until they have a noticeable/significant surplus, and until then, the only actual resemblance to a military will be formed by thieves, bandits, and the like who have found their sustenance from stealing and shelter on the road. Whatever weapons are developed from there will be built to initially counter common threats, and then later to counter new threats, and so-on. If someone finds out that enough metal plates means you can effectively walk around and shrug off one type of weapon, you will have to build a weapon to counter that, and so-on. "From Scratch" isn't even a good descriptor, because firearms as we know it only come from their varied histories of application around the world since their inception. We could just as likely see a world of cannons flattening small towns as a world that has decided that guns are not worth the effort when you can just out-armor or out-maneuver the shoddy messes that are put together in a haste to reclaim a ranged advantage without sufficient supplies.
yeah true we can already destroy entire cities if we want to, we just hold back. If "humanitarian law" which is a modern invention goes out the window we might as well just do war the fast way.
>faction stylized as knights using car doors as shields and lawnmower blades as swords, wearing sports equipment
>napoleonic style faction using caplock muskets made out of pipes wearing a mix of salvaged military outfits and suits stolen from museums
Pretty sure that's what Fallout Boston is trying to do. Has a faction styled after knights using scrap metal.
I meant Fallout London.
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Your post got me thinking of a post-apocalyptic world that has mostly regressed back to medieval times with the exception of super heavy artillery.
No handheld guns because making small ammunition and firing mechanisms is a pain in the ass and having to start mostly from scratch means they're not very effective either compared to the armor that's being made.
However plenty of resources are being put into heavy artillery. Devices like 155mm cannons and 16 inch artillery are plentiful.
Want to kill one man from a mile away? Not happening. Want to erase the entire fricking town where he's standing from a hundred miles away? You got it.
without an industrial complex to support it, pretty much. You'd get people capable of reloading and making blackpowder cartridges, but there'd be no one to make artisan muskets, no one to make the steel to be used in said muskets. You'd have to have some hardcore survivalists restart civilization from the ground up, probably relatively quickly. Relying on scavenged materials is obviously something unsustainable, so ironically it would be societies that regress the most that could start making new guns from their own materials, rather than jury rigging regular modern rifles to work with blackpowder.
You'd probably have makeshift/scavenged guns, but the production lines necessary to make modern ones wouldn't exist anymore
Depends on how much knowledge on chemistry and abillitiy to supply chemicals manage to survive since that is the real bottleneck just like how it was in the past, when niter had to be imported at exorbitant prices before people figured out that piss and shit was a good source for nitre around the late 15th century.
>ancient techonolgy is a terrible meme
Wrong and gay
Nier Replicant
Yeah I like Xenoblade too.
>Fantasy MC describes an ancient picture he saw as a kid
>It depicts a man in strange armor holding an unusually stiff banner surrounded by a barren landscape
>Actually get to see the picture
>the town's master smith wants to give you a weapon that has passed down from generation to generation as a sign of his eternal grattitude
>it's a fricking double barrel shotgun
MC describes an ancient picture he saw as a kid
>>It depicts a man in strange armor holding an unusually stiff banner surrounded by a barren landscape
Oh my science/pringles I love BOTNS!
Really loved Zero no Tsukaima for this.
it was the zero fighter / hangar right?
you reminded me that the author fricking died before finishing the LN.
Technically already finished with most of the key points already written out as notes
It was just planned to be longer but at least the ending was how the author would've wanted it instead of it getting fricked by wokegays wanting more "diversity"
i think a picture of michael jackson has the best chance of surviving long enough to become a historic artifact
How would they describe that?
>a pale man dressed in white leaning forward
>a dark-skinned necromancer dressed in red commanding the undead
>You come across the actual flag
Kino
Adventure time
Shining Force 4 lyfe.
>Fantasy game
>It's a socialist utopia
>the devs of said game are trannies to nobody's surprise
Sounds like a fantasy to me, alright.
if you have merchants, shopkeepers, or even currency, it's not socialist.
socialism =/= communism
>no food mechanics
phew
>Fantasy game is a utopia
>you play as the underclass that has to labour and suffer to make the utopia work
>fantasy setting
>it was all in your head
Final Fantasy 16
it was all just a book
That's not what the ending implies.
Drawn to Life: The Next Chapter ;-;
>original game hides the twist until the end of the game
>remake immediately spoils it
pretty fricked up tbh
That pissed me off so much.
>"Fantasy but ackshually post-apocalypse Earth" series starts out relatively grounded.
>Later installments start adding ghosts, aliens, and stuff.
this is what every supposedly grounded jap piece of media does and I hate it
>fantasy game
>leads on it's the past
> It's actually the future after nuclear war
It's probably cliche but I think it's neat
>urban game
>it's actually a post apocalyptic game
https://store.steampowered.com/app/809140/Cliff_Empire/
Dark Souls games are post apocalyptic and fantasy simultaneously.
no, they are just apocalyptic, the point of the game is that the apocalypse gets prevented everytime until 3 where u can choose not to give a frick anymore. everything will repeat anyway it just takes longer.
Just because the apocalypse can get even worse doesn't mean it hasn't already happened. How many people are alive, nevermind sane in the world during the events of the game?
Nta, i only played 3, but i always got the idea that the rest of the world was, ok at best, and that it was just the areas that we visited that were completely fricked
thats how it is, where do you think all the other npcs come from. They have economies and cities and shit they just started feeling "undead" "hollow" so they decided to visit whatever place the game takes place in, to try to heal their condition.
>Elves, Orcs, and Dwarves are just offshoots of humans after generations of mutations
>"Magic" is just a side effect of radiation manifesting itself through psychic ppowers, killing the user the more its used
>zombies are just emaciated humans/animals kept alive thanks to radiation
>golems are just military robots
I like that shit.
This one, too. Too bad the Lich was a turbo jobber.
i droped this show when the lich got turned into a giant fricking baby, i heard the show just got gayer as it went on
>Game set 500 years in the past/future
>social sensibilities/morality is exactly like 21st century Californian urban upper middle class culture.
phantasy star does it the best
star ocean probably does it the worst
>PSO lore: everyone is dead, the government is pure evil and caused the apocalypse and now they're trying to bio engineer Satan to create Satan bioweapons
absolute kino
>fantasy game
>it's not a unique world like mario, it's just medieval shit like swords, shields, dungeons, potions, etc.
agreed this meme needs to die already, also its medieval and its based on norse mythology everytime like LoTR which is shit
Any books with this premise? I crave this shit
Sword of Shannara
>Demons are just mutants
>What the heroes believe to be hell is just an ancient and highly developed city
>Radioactivity is introduced as a new status infliction at the very end
>seemingly fun, idealistic world is actually holding dark fricked up lore and is at threat of constant annihilation!
Can we please have a utopia that's just a fricking utopia for once?
It's not vidya, but there's always 17776. Just utopia.
I like the idea that the utopia exists because there are people putting in work to protect that utopia.
A story where the main character either deliberately or accidentally destroys the utopia could be pretty cool though. In that setting you could have a utopia that would continue to exist forever if the main character had not intervened.
>deliberately
Accidentally due his mere presence introducing thoughts of maybe living always like this wasn't the best option and we should try something else is better.
A civilization that has been so long at the top it doesn't even notice they are on the mountain and all steps lead down.
>sci-fi / fantasy game
>mysterious super-advanced artifacts from a mysterious super-advanced civilization that got wiped out
>it was humans
It's lame every time.
It's kino when there are no humans in the game and humans are worshipped like gods by the current species.
Only example I can think of is Primordia
Reminds me of Turn X from Turn A gundam
>found drifting in outer space
>apparently was left behind by super smart humans that fricked off to another galaxy long ago
>supposedly it's a grunt tier robot, but compared to current Earth tech it's extremely advanced and causes a war that divides the people on Earth
This thread is just describing Nier.
Final Fantasy X
that was a neat twist I wasn't expecting from this game
I loved the Tokyo drop in smt4. Its one of my favorite memories
based
>Value: 0
Name 3 games
Why should "Fantasy" be regulated to any setting? If I put a Native American spirit warrior sheriff in space and made his best friend a robot horse, is that not fantasy?
Sounds like sci-fi
That would be a space western, such as Firefly or Cowboy Bebop
>Prey 3 neverever
Marshall Bravestar?
>magic exists
>chaos, destruction, mass rape isn't happening 24/7
I want more ideal traditionnal fantasy worlds like in DQ
i'm sick of Zanzibart shit, desolate lands, all castles and all constructions in general are in ruins etc...
Then don't play Souls games you moron
Phantasy Star 4 does this wonderfully, though it's common knowledge among the people that things used to be more advanced, they're completely clueless to the sheer extent of it.
Why did Sega put Sakaguchi in their game?
one of my current game projects is this.
>gods are lovecraftian archons that will eat the souls of 99% of all life after they die
>ayy lmaos figure this out through advanced science and panic
>they build a no-ship to hide from the gods
>the no-ship crashlands on a generic fantasy world during its high elven era
>this causes an apocalypse which leads to the rise of mankind
>4000 years later, the ayys are aided by evil human and !elven sorcerers to complete a superweapon from deep within the bowels of the crashed no-ship
>a human giga-autist causality monk figures this out and realizes how bad it could be
>he makes himself into a messiah-antichrist like figure to unite all the nations of man under his banner and march against the ancient foe
Sounds based.
thanks anon
it's not exactly original but then again, what is?
>What would happen if the gods didn't eat the souls?
>The way you describe it makes it seem as if the ayys are opposed to humans of the game world. Is it just because the humans are worshiping those gods or is there some deeper reason to it?
>As for that superweapon, what do they intend to kill with it? The gods?
the ayys ultimately want to starve the gods
so they want to go after the gods' livestock: humanity. starve them out by depriving them of souls.
the superweapon's real function is preventing all births while it is active, effectively shutting the material world off from the spiritual world.
That's a very humanitarian superweapon. I like the way your ayys think.
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What would happen if the gods didn't eat the souls?
The way you describe it makes it seem as if the ayys are opposed to humans of the game world. Is it just because the humans are worshiping those gods or is there some deeper reason to it?
As for that superweapon, what do they intend to kill with it? The gods?
Book of the New Sun is so fricking kino and I have no idea why nobody has capitalized on a setting like it. The closest we ever got was Amano's shit for early Final Fantasy but that barely translated into the games.
It's on my list, I'll read them soon anon. I heard a lot of good things about botns
I can see Fromsoftware doing something like this in 8 years when they make their open world ARPG successor to ER.
If you think about it Elden Ring combat mechanics, especially how spells and aow work, perfectly fit the kind of technology in a setting like BotNS
>Elden Ring combat mechanics, especially how spells and aow work, perfectly fit the kind of technology in a setting like BotNS
You have never read Book of the New Sun.
How does it fit the setting of BoTNS?
I learned about it from the anon you quoted, and it sounds really cool, added it to my reading list ,but Elden Ring is just normal high fantasy.
From the synopses I read, BoTNS is more like high sci-fi mixed with low society after a catastrophic event. There is no scifi in ER, no spaceships, rockets, cloning, etc.
>yfw Amano illustrated the covers for the Jap Botns
Any other games like that?
The only thing i know is stella glow.
Seriously. Would be cool to go to "dungeons" being just old modern or future tech ruins and "magic" is just future tech that people cant explain. Also magic disease is just nanites with failed programming..
check out Harvestella
I wish Harvestella wasn't sold at $60 because I couldn't recommend it at that price. It's an amazing game at $30~40 though.
FFX?
Breath of the Wild/Tears of the kingdom
It can be done in interesting ways if it weren't always so derivative.
>Technology in post apocalypse so advanced due to the exploitation of a Tiberium style resource
>Post apocalypse killed millions and infected more
>Those infected become powerful casters able to synergize with body modification and master casting powers by manipulating matter or creating portals
>Technology faction vs cyborg-magic faction
I had an idea for a setting like that back in like middle school, except it was way more in your face and not actually post-apoc but a natural progression of the world.
The premise was that the technological progress was extremely advanced, but the designs were stuck on a medieval level, so you had mages being essentially mechanicus with flamethrower tubes body-horrorly running through their arms, Hippie anti-tech elves who were the laughing stock of the entire setting, and Dwarves, whose factory-fortresses were polluting the frick out of the environment they are built in so much that elves that were living nearby mutated into orcs, for whom making making a step without dying was a sign of massive intelligence, and centaurs that were augmented raiders, with the horse body being a very crude boston-dynamics like construction out of scrap, gauss crossbows and Nuke-throwing ballistas. There was no actual magic or gods whatsoever, it was all either people forming a cult around their technology, or the Orc system of making a religion that was "Take random object call it god and worship it", which, amongst other things, once had a dwarf trapped in a tower surrounded by an orc tribe, who didn't even know he was their "God" called "Little shooter" and thought the orcs were planning (rookie mistake) how to take him out. He's long since dead but if the tribe even managed to survive a week after that - they'd probably worship his decomposing corpse too.
The powerscaling was fricked beyond all recognition, but the rule of cool was the main goal and man, it was a fun idea to think about.
>Fantasy show
>it's actually a post apocalyptic show
what about the inverse, where the fantasy culture / magic is wiped out and replaced by a technological society? magic exists but is totally forgotten, except for some super rare artifacts etc. i do this in my tabletop setting btw.
>Scifi game
>Most people fight with swords, axes, etc.
common reasoning is shield tech can divert projectiles. You can buy very expensive guns that shoot shit that goes through but meele weapons is way cheaper and people are poor.
You seriously don't want to puncture the hull of the spaceship you're fighting over so no sane person would use a gun inside a space ship. Then that martial culture spread to planetside.
Not that hard to explain.
Oh man I fricking love Wizards.
My homie. I am still pissed about Necron.
Hell yeah. Weehawk would have been totally justified in killing that b***h Elinore (too bad she was Avatar’s very sentimental wienersleeve)
Savage was like this, not that anybody else remembers savage.
>implying im not hearing it mentioned first time just now
Isn't this just a different way of thinking about the old "ancient technologically advanced civilization that fell into ruin" cliche?
Yes. Cliches became cliches because people loved those ideas back when they were still original.
>Vegita OP
>212 posts
>not even one thanks doc
this board is completely and utterly dead
>no green and purple
That isn't how this works.
>Vegita OP
OP posted Vegetto, not Vegeta.
Drakengard, a fantasy game, has a random Scifi ending (5th ending) which ends the world and the Nier Franchise is the continuation of such ending
>modern day game, just a bit into the futuristic side
>it's post-post-post-post-post apocalyptic
how
either maya or inka claimed there were 4 apocalypses and said civilization is cyclical because of that.
>off by 1
impressive
>Setting is a mix between super high tech sci-fi and medieval fantasy
>Has stuff like the evil undead empire having an entire spacefleet despite everything being relegated to one planet
>You mostly don't think about it because it's most likely the devs just throwing in whatever they find cool
>It turns out that the god of the setting haphazardly merged every single alternate reality into one universe
>In doing so, he also genocided almost every single other god in existence
I like that Breath of the Wild is post-apocalyptic, almost Fallout 1-ish in that the world before the calamity is barely in living memory outside of particularly long-lived characters like Impa, Purah or Sidon, and so much of the world is in its small isolated communities, and all you get is brief glimpses of the old world. The world seems barely interested in what Link is getting up to and rather than the upbeat adventurous leitmotifs of Ocarina of Time or Twilight Princess's Hyrule fields, it's melancholy and lonely.
And then Tears of the Kingdom goes much further. The settlements are all larger and more developed and you get people roaming the world actively trying to protect what they've built. Lookout Landing is right at the foot of Hyrule Castle itself and is actively putting in work investigating the Upheaval, Gloom and ultimately guiding Link to taking down Ganon himself. All the different races interact much more and Lookout Landing gets more active as Link finishes up quests. You find bands of soldiers taking the fight to gangs of moblins and things. Hudson's construction has shit set up everywhere. It makes that encroaching threat of Ganondorf that much more meaningful, that Link's failure would mean everyone's efforts are for naught.
The field theme is a lot less fragmented, though still appropriately subdued.
>Sci-fi game
>It's actually fantasy
>Final boss is Satan
Dumps would be a great place to mine for materials if we do hit a collapse. I think humans will be fine but it will be the end of electronic technology.
>it's medieval times
>except it's post apocalyptic north america
>america comes back as an medieval empire
some make this pl0x
https://ck2.paradoxwikis.com/After_the_End
Book of the New Sun absolutely mogs 99.999999% of all fantasy fiction. But you're probably too young to know it.
I'm pretty sure BotNS is brought up a lot in these kinds of threads.
In order to control my traumatic brain injury brought about by drug induced psychosis when smoking crack cocaine in the early 80s (i was part of the governments operations to import crack from south america to the inner cities [i am 78 years old]) i have begun day drinking and using opiods to manage my episodes which include using the entropy drive to drive me to and from work.
My doctor said he will pray everytime i drive so i began with an exhortation to the pancreator that the world mover uses its entropy power to move the world as i please then i turn the key and the world movement process has been initialized. Sometimes during the experience i hallucinate the horrified faces of children and teleporters in my scribing mirrors and strange lights which hurt my eyes during the entropic process.
Apparently the demiurge likes to torture me by forcing my hands to be on the samsara totem because he punishes me with wailing and images of blood and red and blue and green lights if i let go of the moksha pivoter.
When the world stops its entropic process i sometimes have double vision or sight of scrying the past and there are always flames. Once the shapeshifters tried to take me to the DUMBS but a woman pretending to be my adult daughter spoke in code to the annunaki adjudicator and all all I have to do is pretend I didnt dissolve the sorcerers stone into my tabernacle.
Yeah, but many people miss it, so it's always good to bring it up again. That image is quite accurate lmao
>SCIFI game
>it is actually a Fantasy game
What games?
Star Wars is just a fantasy setting with a sci-fi coat of paint.
warhammer
>have guns
>prefer meele
>have tanks
>wizards are stonger
>fantasy game
>it's a real fantasy game without gimmicks and twists
>Fantasy Game
>It's actually Sci-Fi with advanced technology far surpassing our own and rivalling that of Star Trek
I'm talking about World of Warcraft.
the world has magic. That teleporter can be just a spell array glued to some steampunk tech
But it's not, it is wholly technological.
that teleporter can transform you into a chicken on malfunction. Explain that without magic
>Advanced civilization knows they're in deep and messing with universal shit they shouldn't
>Lore shows that they were purposefully dumbing down their tech so that following civilizations could figure it out.
Kino
name one game.
Genshin Impact
>inb4 obvious replies
>dungeons have puzzles for 3year olds because its an idiocracy iq test for grug
my new favorite homebrew lore
>1990-2020 human civilization are called First/Ancient/Original ones”
>There are dragons, goblins, talking furries, witches, etc. But everything is powered by nano-machines, no magic
>Sometimes they find "ancient tech": a regular laptop, a videogame console,etc
I love this trope
>world has actual magic
>people keep making references to the "age of legends" when everything was much more advanced
>character gets a flashback
>sees "a mythical landscape full of silver towers"
>they're skyscrapers
>turns out it's just the future and the magic came from people drilling into Hell
>protagonist is on the brink of death, remember his/her previous life 2,000 years ago, a normal life in a average family in Japan or USA, instead of being the hero who killed the Demon King
>the Rapture already happened
>we just Terra-formed Hell
Me when I see moe.
For me, it's wizards using shit like sniper rifles
>Futuristic setting
>Best weapons are a pistol and a sword
that's pretty much the premise of my RP server, Diverian Mist
link if anyone is interested at all
https://disboard.org/server/637053675948343325
with how janky pic related is at times, i'm actually surprised at how fleshed out the worldbuilding is.
forgot pic
The original xenoblade was really cool for that.
It's actually a terrible trope, typically used as a lazy excuse to avoid world building and establish a coherent lore and mythos.
>there was ancient civ
is basically irrelevant for world building as it doesnt change anyhting unless you decide to give loot from it
Thanks for the kino thread, anons. not often I get to say that.
OP here, i actually expected this thread die after like 10 posts at best, thanks, this was actually kinda cool
fantasy=fiction
you're a geek if you think otherwise