FATAL 2: Alpha Copy

Behold, the FATAL 2.

It's still a WIP.

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  1. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >ctrl+f
    >"circumference"
    >1/28

    Not bad

  2. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    THERE IS NO GOD
    >only 189 pages, weaksauce length compared to the original, but still. What hath thou wrought?

  3. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Piss Trick
    >You can piss fire onto your enemies
    I was wondering why urination was an Elf skill

  4. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >that logo
    This is an elaborate fake

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      nu-uh

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        yuh-huh

  5. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Clearly not the work of the original author, since he literally stuck his name and face on the original game, and this is entirely anonymous.
    Not to mention a lot of this feels like the creator got into OSR recently.
    It's a noble effort to continue the work, but I doubt that OP is the man himself.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      I dont think he's trying to be it's clearly a fan remake for the lulz

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Byron Hall gave his permission. I had to hire a Private Investigator to hunt him down.

      It's a long story.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Aight, I won't bother you for the full story but I must ask one thing.
        Does he regret FATAL?

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          He refused to sell the rights when I asked. I offered quite the sizeable sum. The original intent was to get the rights, then try to publish it to Paizo and DriveThru RPG's stores, just to see what they'd do.

          I'd say turning down ~$500 indicates there's still some regret.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            $500 is nothing for ownership of an IP

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              ~$500
              Are you some african mud farmer or something? 500 bucks is nothing, especially not for things like IP. Try something more like 5-10 grand.

              if someone offers you five hundred bucks for your ip you have legal precedence to perform an honor killing

              I know the guy doing this. iirc he was prepared to offer more if 500 was too low, though to be fair FATAL is an infamous meme game that was never formally published when it was written over 20 years ago.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            ~$500
            Are you some african mud farmer or something? 500 bucks is nothing, especially not for things like IP. Try something more like 5-10 grand.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            I'm gonna choose to believe.
            I don't know if I should, but I choose to.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            if someone offers you five hundred bucks for your ip you have legal precedence to perform an honor killing

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            I paid 2.5k just for the cover art...

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              Byron?

              How do you write a sex game without incorporating the biggest fetish out there?

              True. If I can't play this as a sisterwife simulator what's the point?

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            Lol you probably spent more on the PI

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              Admittedly it can vary in price depending on where you found them. You can find “private detectives tm” on fiver for relatively cheap

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Please, PLEASE share the story of Byron Hall. I'm honestly dying to know what became of him. It looks like he basically disappeared around 2013, 2014?

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          Without getting too in detail; after FATAL he started getting into making complex algorithms in programming. He also started selling Baracuda cars online and tuning them up.

          After which his business collapsed after a couple of years, he switched to a therapy business involving stoicism - which also failed, and I think one more statistics-based business which failed.

          I would have actually driven to his place to confront him in person, but seeing as he has an arrest on his record for a domestic disturbance and his wife leaving him, I wasn't too keen on getting shot by Mr. Fatal himself.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            So you hired a... mediator to get his permission?
            Is it in writing?

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              No, I got his phone number. PI just got me the contact details and sent them my way.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                Ah, well, having his word over a phone isn't worth much, but then it sounds like he's not in a position to take action against you (legal or otherwise) even if he wanted to.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                Hey if he takes legal action he'll be in a place to buy the rights off of him

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                with what, $500?

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            I actually can confirm all of these with the exception of the wife leaving him from things available online.

            It seems he was a quite good data scientist. His R package for bayesian statistics is quite acclaimed. He should have been able to make bank. That he didn't says something about him.

            So, what's his current status?

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              Ah yeah that's right. Forgor some of the finer details, been in and out of getting an infection taken care of.

              >inb4 posting this gave me the infection

              But, as far as I'm aware Byron is retired, he didn't have any recent businesses under his belt (last one ended recently, within the last few years). It's entirely possible he just has a decent amount of money and starts businesses infrequently. But, as of now he's just at his home.

              Also, I may have just figured his wife left him considering the charges - second degree breach of the peace with a $10,000 bond (which he paid).

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Private Investigator
        Yeah, you need to tell that story

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        I'm suspicious about some of this. I've looked through the thread, and the info checks out, but...Hall gave some rando permission for FATAL 3e, when he won't give that to Hausler, who co-created the game? I've done a bunch of research on the circumstances around FATAL. I want to believe, but what's the circumstances under which you got FATAL remake permission and the game's literal co-creator didn't? How'd you get 3e permission without getting any other rights? I want to know.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah, I'm looking further and something's strange here. OP, why is this...FATAL? The setting is completely different from the ground up. The basic mechanics are different. Some of that is obviously justifiable in a "FATAL remake", but none of this looks anything like FATAL, except in the most basic "le anal circumference! xD xD xD" sense. What's the point of this? Why create a system and setting from scratch, then name it FATAL and put a bunch of meme shit in it? How did Hall give you permission for that? The FATAL guys legitimately didn't think the bizarre sex shit was the most important part of the system -- that's what was insane about them. They genuinely thought they'd made a game and setting people would be interested in. They were wrong, but that's a different problem. How did you 'get permission' to use the FATAL name on something completely unrelated?

  6. 3 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Finally!

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Having to jump through hoops to rape
      >Not accidentally raping as a consequence of regular combat
      Begone, false prophet!

      while you're correcting things, my favourite fricking stupid rule in FATAL is the ejaculation rules on p375. You have rules for determining how many spurts you shoot, how far the first shot goes, and the decrease in distance of each successive spurt.

      FATAL isn't just funny because it has rules for rape, FATAL is funny because it has autistically-detailed rules for every aspect of sex, and if you missed that you missed the brief. Anal Circumference is funny, but then you dig into how tightness modifies pleasure and the soreness rules, and you realise it just keeps going. Merely including a table of injuries and saying "apply these if appropriate" has failed the task, because you need the rules to hold your hand every single step of the way for it to trulybe the nine hundred page BEAST that is FATAL.

      D+, you don't grok fatal. Congratulations, I guess.

      I have to agree. OP isn't making FATAL, he's just being transgressive for its own sake.
      To be honest, if the game is actually playable, it's not really FATAL.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        TBtbh I can see trying to strike a balance between playability and staying true to the source material. Just from reading this it seems a lot more usable than the OG.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          Random but I'm the person who asked the guy for harpies, and for them to be turbo-rapists

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        If I'm not factoring in the exact length and girth of my penis relative to the depth and diameter of the vegana I'm raping, complete with modifiers based on the ratio of sperm in my semen by volume, the exact point on her ovarian cycle, predisposition to genetic compatibility, with a penalty for the state of intactness of both the cervical entrance and the hymen, am I even playing FATAL?

  7. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Not enough footnotes, homosexual

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      You want more footnotes? You want more feet? Foot fetish???

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >You want more feet? Foot fetish???
        Not that anon but yes. If there's no feet I'll riot.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          I'll keep that in mind going forward. This IS a WIP.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            How do you write a sex game without incorporating the biggest fetish out there?

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              >the biggest fetish out there
              there's not space for your mother in the rulebook, even with nearly 200 pages

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              If you aren't basically scraping ideas off /d/ this will never be a true successor to FATAL. The world has come a long way in inventing new perversions and you have to keep it up to date.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                I'll make sure Sandy Cheeks wiener vore is in the next update.

  8. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    There's no way to actually play a game in the original FATAL setting anyway.
    Statistically, it's dead and over. Every spell cast has a chance to misfire, every spell misfire has a chance to cast another random spell, and every random-other-spell has a 1-in-10,000 chance to cast the titual FATAL, which ends all life. Over a few centuries, that's going to happen, and it only has to happen once.

    I choose to interpret "end all life" that as meaning everything down to cellular things. Viruses may or may not die, but mitochondria do, cells do, bacteria do, and without actual life to prey on, viruses cease to exist as well. Life will have to re-emerge from the simplest fricking soup.

    FATAL is a dead setting, and that brings me comfort.

  9. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I have played this version and I have to say it is a great game, only one of the games had someone be raped to death.

  10. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Fantasy Adventure To Adult Lechery is Fatal 1.
    From Another Time Another Land is Fatal 2
    This shitshow is Fatal 3.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      FATAL: NEXT
      ONE FATAL

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Fatal 2024 Revision

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          Fatal OSR

  11. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Looking good. Seems playable already anon, good job.

  12. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Are you gonna make the mechanics actually function? I vaguely recall that you could roll for either negative anal circumference (which is admittedly a real life birth defect), or some fricking absurdly huge number where "one would need to catch a bus to get from either end."

  13. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Congratulations on breaking every single taboo.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Frick yes, e-girls!

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous
    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous
  14. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >penetrated urethra
    >no urethral circumference stat

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >roll to determine character's urethral circumference
      >0

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        rolling a trends-towards-zero urethral circumference character so you can employ the venturi effect for piss-based liquid cutter attacks is the kind of thing FATAL should allow.
        The fact that OP's document doesn't allow it is shameful.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          I'll correct this egregious oversight.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            while you're correcting things, my favourite fricking stupid rule in FATAL is the ejaculation rules on p375. You have rules for determining how many spurts you shoot, how far the first shot goes, and the decrease in distance of each successive spurt.

            FATAL isn't just funny because it has rules for rape, FATAL is funny because it has autistically-detailed rules for every aspect of sex, and if you missed that you missed the brief. Anal Circumference is funny, but then you dig into how tightness modifies pleasure and the soreness rules, and you realise it just keeps going. Merely including a table of injuries and saying "apply these if appropriate" has failed the task, because you need the rules to hold your hand every single step of the way for it to trulybe the nine hundred page BEAST that is FATAL.

            D+, you don't grok fatal. Congratulations, I guess.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Don't worry. It's cumming...along...

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        AHHHHHHHH

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        I did some math and anything 5 categories larger than a human can fit something a foot in diameter inside it’s urethra. Anything 7 categories larger can fit a whole human inside its urethra allowing you to crawl inside up too its bladder and drown yourself. This is important information as it is my very specific fetish. Now I don’t know how large that actually is under your rules because I couldn’t find those, but this is a good sign.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          Don't worry. It's cumming...along...

          Behold, the FATAL 2.

          It's still a WIP.

          Presumably since the diameter of a small creatures urethra is considerably smaller than a medium creatures, their pee stream will have a higher psi. As to if this will compensate for a lower volume of urine and weaker muscles is up to the writer to determine, but they should definitely have some bonus or penalty to the urinating skill.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      I did some math and anything 5 categories larger than a human can fit something a foot in diameter inside it’s urethra. Anything 7 categories larger can fit a whole human inside its urethra allowing you to crawl inside up too its bladder and drown yourself. This is important information as it is my very specific fetish. Now I don’t know how large that actually is under your rules because I couldn’t find those, but this is a good sign.

      [...]
      [...]
      Presumably since the diameter of a small creatures urethra is considerably smaller than a medium creatures, their pee stream will have a higher psi. As to if this will compensate for a lower volume of urine and weaker muscles is up to the writer to determine, but they should definitely have some bonus or penalty to the urinating skill.

      >This is what (you) wanted OP

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        It is. It's amazing.

        I love this whole thread.

        I promise to make the game more deranged. This was but an appetizer taste.

        I was also recommended Romans buck breaking African bulls. I hear Tariq Nasheed would enjoy this historically accurate portrayal of the Roman conquest of Africa.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          I look forward to the results anon

  15. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    What can I do to help you complete this project?

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Not OP but please list every fetish you wish to see in FATAL 2

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        OP here, do what that other guy said.

        I need examples of what kinds of degeneracy people want to see.

        Also any legit ideas / criticisms people may have about the gameplay. Other than the fact it's playable. I'm afraid I can't change that part.

        >Degeneracy
        Necromancy, mind control, and body modifications. If someone loses when they had a chance to escape, they need to really feel the pain.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          >No, the OTHER CoC

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            I'm never going to stop being mad that CoC 2 was sanitized so they could get Patreon bucks.
            What's the point of corrupting your character into an eight foot tall demon with two dicks if they can't act like a degenerate demon!?

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        In-depth mechanics for footjobs, thighjobs, and armpit fricking.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          Footjobs feel exactly the same as vanilla sex, but more awkward

          t. knower

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      OP here, do what that other guy said.

      I need examples of what kinds of degeneracy people want to see.

      Also any legit ideas / criticisms people may have about the gameplay. Other than the fact it's playable. I'm afraid I can't change that part.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Hand holding...leading to marriage and responsible sex. And paying taxes. Lots and lots of tax forms.

  16. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    No d1,000,000s rolls in character creation.
    unplayable.

  17. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Important question, but can you play as a sentient (and very horny) tentacle monster? Perhaps one which could conceal their true guise with a robe and a helmet.
    Ability to actually breed women of humanoid races would be optional for me, but I'm sure others would love it.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      There isn’t one in this edition from what I saw. Since this looks to be mostly Europe I’m not sure what it would be based on

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Disguise? Like he'd be moving around in human society or something?

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Basically. A more central kind of body, and then a whole mass of whirling tentacles (most for moving and gripping, and then some for fun). He could take sort of a humanoid shape underneath a robe or cloak which would cover him up, he could even wear boots and mittens.

        He would probably be pretty bad at maintaining human enough shape and movement in the beginning, but gradually he gets a knack for it. He would probably adventure for treasure for the most part, and only occasionally frick e-girls.

  18. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Looking forward for a revised edition, unlike what /tg/ memelords says, I enjoyed the combat.

  19. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I-is this goatse or am I brain damaged?

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >no ring
      No goatse. Sorry anon, better consult a neurologist.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        The text is the ring tho.....

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          Mr. Goatse was married, and wore a wedding ring in those photos.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yes
      >T. I made the logo for him

  20. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Haven't been on /tg/ all that much in recent weeks
    >Decide to check on the board today
    >See this thread
    Are we witnessing industry history in the making?

  21. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    well, I for one will be following your progress of this game, because I try to support black creators when I can.

  22. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I comm'd a sheet for the game. Roll20's admins told the person I comm'd from if they ever submit anything FATAL related to the repository again, they'll be banned from the Roll20 sheet repository GitHub.

    I wonder what influenced that decision.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Just cancel them for being kinkshaming bigots.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Roll20's admins told the person I comm'd from if they ever submit anything FATAL related to the repository again, they'll be banned from the Roll20 sheet repository GitHub.
      ...lol

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >I wonder what influenced that decision
      Do you really
      Does anyone actually need a reason to avoid associating their brand with fricking FATAL

  23. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    So if I'm reading this correct, if you roll good(bad?) and your character is a gay guy or w/e. Your butthole can be 3 feet wide? I'm pretty sure you could consume people like Mr.Slave did to paris hilton if you had an butthole like that.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      that's a big butt

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      you're mixing up circumference and diameter

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Ah yes, of course. Having an eleven and a half inch diameter butthole is far more reasonable.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          You will never be constipated.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          Keep in mind that’s maximum so you don’t walk around full Goatsee at all times

  24. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    nonono

  25. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I am sickened and only sickened, you degenerate.

  26. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Godspeed you OP

  27. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    To be FATAL, this needs to be wayyy more
    - racist
    - crass
    - riddled with completely broken and useless parts

    If you want to kinda skirt the PCness, you can combine these; you could make the rules for normal things like murder and theft usable, and have extremely convoluted and inherently broken and unusable rules for rape.

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