SNK unveiled the first actual trailer for the new Garou, now officially titled Fatal Fury: City of the Wolves
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SNK unveiled the first actual trailer for the new Garou, now officially titled Fatal Fury: City of the Wolves
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It is really is called Fatal Fury, so the previous game being called Garou really was a slip up between regions; I recall the Dreamcast version was called Fatal Fury - Mark of The Wolves, that odd one out ended up being the true intent after all.
Branding is everything I guess.
The whole serious is called Garou.
Only in Japan, it is called Garou Densetsu. Internationally it is Fatal Fury, only MotW ended up being Garou too outside Japan back then, but now SNK seems to correct that.
>only MotW ended up being Garou too outside Japan back then
It didn't though. The Dreamcast port was still called Fatal Fury: Mark the Wolves.
The only version to be called that, MotW stuck with being called Garou too outside Japan for all other releases, even very recent re-releases for PS4 and Steam.
It was a New Generation thing. Maybe SNK wanted to a fresh look for FF and hope for a second King of Fighters. Then they went bankrupt.
Feels like theyre pulling a yakuza 7 with this title
I mean, it's still called garo densetsu in japan
That’s the point, SNK is back to differentiating th4 series title between regions; Mark of the Wolves was called GAROU Mark of the Wolves in all regions back then, and still today on PS4 and Steam. As mentioned in this thread several times already on the Dreamcast version of MotW was "fixed" for the western release for some reason, being called Fatal Fury - Mark of the Wolves.
The first thing we hear is many familiar characters calling their attacks out, Mai Shiranui being the obvious one among them. I knew it, modern times are completely avert to rosters being completely overhauled, unlike the first Garou this one will definitely fill the roster with as many classic South Town characters as possible before any new character, or even the less popular half of the OG Garou cast, makes an appearance.
Boo hoo, majority of South Town's been absent from fighting games for over 20 years at this point.
Plus if they're still keeping with the timeline Mai will be several years older and a ninja instructor now so her moves might have changes to them.
Mai would be 32 years old at best, a complete hag by japanese media standards, but I don't see her having any real difference from her old self besides a new outfit.
She's been frozen at around 18-20 in KoF so adding 12 years to her will be a change of pace at the least.
Knowing them they'll just leave her model unchanged though.
You are missing the point if you think SNK will start digging the lesser known South Town characters who haven't appeared in a game for a long time now. There's no way they won't start by picking the famous South Town who have been appearing in all KOFs already first, to get that instant recognition status right away.
Wrong it's going to be MotW with a few of the Fatal Fury characters that are also in Kof and a few OCs. As far as classic Fatal Fury characters go:
Guaranteed:
The entire MotW cast
Andy
Joe
Mai
Likely:
Blue Mary
Nightmare Geese
Yamazaki
Unlikely but possible:
Kim(because of his sons or else he'd be guaranteed
Billy
Neglected characters who won't get in because even after reviving Fatal Fury, it's going to be Garou/Kof shit instead of an actual Fatal Fury game:
Rick
Xiangfei
Franco
Krauser
Laurence
Raiden
Duck King
Alfred
Cheng
Tung
Sokaku
Chonshu
Chonrei
Bob
Hon Fu
Jubei
Axel
Hwa Jai
Michael
Richard
Toji
Tsugumi
Lao
Billy is confirmed
Move him up to guaranteed then
Most of the characters you listed in the never evers only had one or two appearances in the whole series and don't have much of a fanbase if any at all.
Hahahaha, what are you smoking? Did you even watch the trailers so far? The already confirmed characters are literally majorly from Fatal Fury, not Garou.
Terry, Joe, Andy, Billy against just Kane and Rock, that alone should tell you where SNK's roster priorities are, and now the full reveal trailer is packed with sound bytes from the most famous South Town characters that have always been making their appearance on KOF.
Sealing the deal for good that City of the Wolves will be just as a nostalgia pandering as any modern release of a old established fighting series is.
>Terry, Joe, Andy, Billy against just Kane and Rock
Billy is on Rock and Kane's team
If you have any reading comprehension skills you can see that anon is talking about which characters are Fatal Fury OGs, and which are MotW OGs.
No you're just a moron who doesn't know what he's talking about
>y-y-you are just a moron.
Got told on his stupid expectations that goes against all trailers and now is mad, lol.
Cope
Hahahaha, are you mad honey?
Are you stupid or you just skipped all teasers and hasn't actually seen this reveal trailer yet? I can definitely see clear as day which characters will absolutely make their way in, and those who don't. Hint: it's the characters heavily edging out any of the literally who's and just the measly two seen Garou original characters seen so far.
>The entire MotW cast
Lol, lmao even. There’s a reason only half of the original MotW cast even made to KOF, and sure it wasn’t timeline issues since KOF doesn’t care about that.
I don't know Fatal Fury history very well, but does May Lee have any chance of returning?
She never was a FF or AoF character. Only in KoF.
No, she's a KOF Character
Lmao, it's a new Fatal Fury instead of being a real "MOTW2" for a reason.
They are going to useKOFXV characters as much as they can:
>Terry
>Andy
>Mai
>Blue Mary
>Kim
>Ryo
>Geese
>Joe
>Yamazaki
>Billy
>Rock
>Jenet
>Gato
>Dinosaur forma de Tizoc
They are certainly add MOTW characters like Hotaru, Marco, Kain or Hokutomaru
+ some old ass returning characters like Rick Strowd or Duck King
Bro, MOTW was a Fatal Fury. It was essentially the Street Fighter 3 or Soulcalibur 5 of the series.
>MOTW was a Fatal Fury
Yes? I said "MOTW2" for a reason.
A real MOTW2 would go further into what they did with MOTW with a new generation of fighters (new characters or "sons of") instead of bringing the classic characters of the Garou series.
So like I said, they are going to reuse KOFXV characters because budget because this game is more like a classic Fatal Fury / Garou instead of a MOTW sequel.
So more classic Garou characters instead of the MOTW roster.
Goddamn you're fricking autistic. It's just a fricking name and the japs are correcting it. Even if it was still called Garou it would end up being exactly the same as the trailer depicted it to be. Adding in classic FF characters and using KoFXV assets to help move production along faster. The japs don't have the same distinction between the two titles that the west accidentally had. You're forcing the western perspective onto japs that just view it as another FF game. They gave some acknowledgement to it being known as garou here but announcing this as garou 2 but decided to say frick it and use the proper western name. Now stop being a fricking spastic.
Again, I always called "Fatal Fury" Garou so stop trying to push your western shit on me.
The name doesn't change anything to what I said, moron.
They are going back to a classic "Fatal Fury" game with the old cast instead of doing a real sequel to MOTW with a new generation of fighters, that's all.
The original plans for Garou 2 included more returning FF/AoF characters too, crybaby.
Literally nobody wants the new game to be MOTW 2
I believe they should have the entire franchise's roster by the end of it's lifespan
They should try this:
The three heroes from the first FF + Mai Shiranui + some characters from the first Garou + some new characters.
Both FF and AOF ended up feeling a little redundant because their most popular characters were available on KOF, so maybe it's a good moment to try to differentiate them.
Don't forget Billy's back too
But yeah, new characters are really the question. We already have soft confirmation for around 12 OGs+Garou thanks to this trailer which is around the same amount as SF6 had for its starting roster. I genuinely wonder if SNK is considering being a mostly Veteran roster or if only to stick with the "essentials". Since Garou still has a bunch of characters that have been stuck to it, they might feel like newcomers to people who haven't played Garou you know, most Garou fans
I expect most of the MOTW cast to return and as well as the newcomers from MOTW2.
Maybe like grant, Kevin, or freeman get stuck as dlc fodder.
Kevin's Bingo Super is in the trailer, somehow he's back. Only characters we're lacking confirmation for now are Freeman and the Kims. Which means SNK is actually doing what I wished Capcom would do for SF6 and bring back at least MOST of the MotW cast
2024 and we still need to wait 6 DLC waves just to play as SFIII characters in the newest Street Fighter
Freeman is probably never coming back so will never be a functional character. Kim 1 and 2 will be merged into super character called Kim. However I do hope they see the positive reception to SF6 moving the timeline forward and changing iconic looks.
I always like new characters and really want to see the spirit of progression kept. But so many FF characters have had zero exposure for 20 years so are basically like new faces.
>Mai’s voice
Oh yeah, can’t wait to see Mai as a 30 years old hag.
I too am looking forward to Fatal Fury: Call of the Wild.
Personally speaking, I want to see King as a hag.
If Ryo hasn't already had kid on his '40s with King, then it is really over for Kokugenryu.
different timeline, good chance King didn't stick around new southtown
>Oh yeah, can’t wait to see Mai as a 30 years old hag.
muh
Her XV render already made me diamonds because she looks more mature
They'd never be brave enough to properly age her up
They never aged Terry too much in MotW to begin with, a bomber jacket and a beard stubble isn’t a terribly visible 10 year gap. Blue Mary as a npc was seen back then and she didn’t look a day older, just got a new outfit.
To be fair, 10 years isn't nearly as long as we used to think it is. After 10 years most people I know look almost exactly the same, even ones I haven't seen for years at a time
>brave enough to do a moronic thing.
Aging female characters in japanese fighters are never a thing, excuses to keep them young and merely tell they aged by giving a different hairstyle and outfit is the only way to go, nobody gets pissed.
Disliking mature women, especially ones made to wear embarrassing clothing. Just shows you aren't old enough to post here.
Literally not a single japanese fighter cather to your tastes, so why you would post here at all? To wish for something that will never happen? That’s a sad prospect in life.
>They'd never be brave
have a nice day roastie. They should de age her with some bullshit.
I hope she has some meat like the ladies in Real Drive.
Think of Ryuuko Matou, but in a milf state since Ami is her voice
Here's your timeskip Mai bros
That's Andy's kid too
>Mai as a 30 years old hag.
Well, it does look slightly better visually than KOF XV, but it is not much of a jump, SNK really doesn't have money to splurge even with the Saudi prince on their side.
They better fill the roster with every single Fatal Fury character ever made then, if the visuals aren't budget-destroying complex.
it's not trying to look more realistic like sf6 and especially tekken which is nice
Realism =/= Visual fidelity. It could be highly stylized and still look infinitely better with the right amount of expertise and money. ArcSys for one made a huge jump with their models between GG Xrd and GG Strive, and neither are realistic, far from it.
It seems like SNK is happy with the current visual style across the board. I'm a little disappointed that this new game will have characters that look just like KoF15 but I'll still take it over Street Fighter making characters uglier with each new game
>this new game will have characters that look just like KoF15
It looks fine, it looks better than KOF15 and even then this new style is still much better looking than SF6 for sure.
>better looking than SF6
LOL
Some faces look ugly in SF6 but at least it looks modern and with polished animations and not like a budget PS2 game
>at least it looks modern
Yes, in other words, looks fricking horseshit
Compared to the crap SNK churns its a masterpiece
>Compared to the crap Capwoke churns its a masterpiece
fixed it 4 u
Ok Pedro, time to lay down the glue pot
Who?
And for real the XV pic you posted is a tousand times better than any other screenshots of SF6 I have even seen, SF6 looks like horsecrap, it's unreal.
Give me:
>Mr. Karate II Ryo
>B. Jenet
>this Blue Mary
And I'll buy your game.
They need to do something about the skin. In every game it looks like clay. And what about teh weird shadows? Are they trying to make it look like sprites, comics or something?
A lot of the old kof games have a weird metallic look to the shading which looks shit but they seem really attached to it. They are kind of halfway between the simple anime shading on the garou promo art and the shitty metallic render now, i wish they would just drop the black shadows and black pillow shading and embrace simple light and shadow.
>ArcSys
If I have to see more ArcSys dicksucking in another SNK thread im going to fricking lose it.
It's one person talking about the difference between Xrd and Strive models, and there's next to no SNK threads for people to even dicksuck arcsys in man take it easy.
>there's next to no SNK threads for people to even dicksuck arcsys in
It happens in literally every single SNK related thread.
>TransSys shills
stfu know what anon means
you can see the fricking pours on the faces of characters it's disgusting
*pores
Black person
Looks better than Project L already.
Quite the low bar, Riot has never made a fighter before, even if they have all the money on their side. It's like SNK and Riot lack completely opposite things.
>Riot has never made a fighter before
Shows how much you know. Riot aren't the ones making Project L. It's being made by Radiant Entertainment, which is headed by the Cannon Brothers, the founders of fricking EVO and Rollback Netcode. No need to doompost because its in good hands.
Did you get lost on your way to your thread LOLgay? Doomposting for what? Nobody cares about Project L enough to even do that.
>GAROUDESU
>CITY OF THE RWUWTR
What the frick?
The right amount of broken english SNK is know for in the nineties but it has been forgotten in recent years. Probably got rid of the native English speaker from KoF XV.
I hope it has unique mechanics, i don't want it to be KOF XV with better graphics but half the characters
It is Fatal Fury, not KOF, so it will either be something where you fight in two planes or like MotW where it is more of a traditional fighter without teams.
Lanes were never popular even amongst Fatal Fury fans and Garou is way too barebones and simplistic for today's standards. They HAVE to come up with some new interesting mechanics, that is if they don't just say frick it, add ex moves and call it a day. I would even take cancellations over ex moves, as long as it's different to KOF
If you think this will be just Garou but with better graphics (like Samurai Shodown is) you got another thing coming, they could not compete at any level with the games out in the market right now with such a simple uncool game
>Lanes were never popular even amongst Fatal Fury fans
FFS and RB2 fans would lynch you for saying that.
I used to play a lot of the RBFF series back in the day and i ignored the lanes for the most part, you take that out of the games and they're the exact same just faster since you have to deal with slow pseudomixup bullshit
>back in the day
Didn't ask, gramps. If you don't play it now then shut the hell up.
I love Special but yeah, lanes were never implemented gracefully into those games and felt more like a gimmick.
>and Garou is way too barebones and simplistic for today's standards
Garou is better than every single modern fighting game in the market right now.
They could overhaul the TOP system into something useful for something other than health regen.
doesnt Garou have that fricked up overpowered block counter thing going for it? Its like 3s parry except you do it by pressing back so its even safer. And then isnt there some weird breaking system that lets you feint shit and do extended combos?
It has just defends but that's borrowed from Samsho.
Breaks are kind of interesting but the Garou characters also have it in KoF so it's not exactly unique now.
Breaks were in the RB series, they originate from FF but not MotW.
>doesnt Garou have that fricked up overpowered block counter thing going for it?
Is this what people think of Garou? Seems funny that the general opinion focuses on "overpowered blocking" when the game has the opposite problem, guaranteed unescapable blockstrings
like kof they'll just rehab garou
Lanes are great frick you
Did I hear a Haoh-sho ko Ken from Ryo? It didn’t sound like Knushood/Martinez’ voice, or a new voice befitting him. Oh baby, it better be Mr. Karate II Ryo.
Frick yeah gimme scruffy dilf Ryo.
and everyone from Kokugen really, SNK knows we live in the era of pandering, you fill the roster with the characters people already love first before adding the new blood, we've come a long from witnessing complete roster overhauls are more often badly received (Soul calibur 6) than the rare stance where they are welcomed (Tekken 3)
In Tekken 3's case most of the already unlocked characters from 1-2 were already there or had characters who played similarly to them so the cast changeover wasn't as much of an issue unlike SFIII which kicked everybody out but Ryu and Ken.
In Garou's case they still had the KoF series for the main characters and pretty much anybody who isn't Terry, Andy, Joe, Mai, Geese, Billy, and Mary don't have that gigantic an amount of a fanbase anyway.
ryo is guaranteed... as DLC.
I can see Yuri too.
Robert? No way.
Play Marco in the meantime
>Bruce Lee lookalike
>Dan lookalike
>Todoh lookalike
what did they mean by this?
SNK likes it's little comedy Easter eggs
>Bruce lee
>Marshall Law
>Dan Hibiki
>Lo Wang
>Todoh Sr.
>Johnny Cage
SNK knows their shit
SNK is a fighting game developer made of fighting game fans first and foremost. They might be budget as frick, but they got passion.
>Dan Hibiki
I do like that Capcom & SNK are willing to take piss out of each other.
The best part is I think Capcom genuinely tried to take the piss out of SNK with Dan, but the SNK staff ended up genuinely loving Dan. It's like giving a dude an insulting nickname, but he runs with it and thinks it's awesome.
I wouldn't be surprised if that was the case considering SNK leaned into it when they made MotM and SVC Chaos and gave him more Kyokugen moves. Then Capcom went frick it, let's see how far we can go with the goofball.
Is that Fei Wong Long on the left
see
there is a lot of cameos there
>YFW Ryo has a kid. Who can shoot venom spikes.
>Ryo & King's kid fight with a Muay Thai/Karate hybrid style
Would be kino, it's exactly the kind of things I want from this game not just some rehash of the same shit.
>Ryo & King's kid
>Personality is kinda a mix of the two but isn't as train happy as Ryo. Messes with Marco being so straightforward but respects the hell out of him and considers him family
>Style is inspired by his parents but takes cues from Uncle Robert
>Can mix/make some amazing drinks be it healthy stuff or booze
Has it been confirmed if this game is going to be a 2d fighter?
I personally think that making a new game inspired by Maximum Impact/Wild Ambition but with more polish could work really well.
I really hope they use Buriki One/NGBC Ryo/Robert in this game.
>Has it been confirmed if this game is going to be a 2d fighter?
Looks 2d so I doubt it will be like MI.
Terry's head is kinda too narrow.
And location was "(???) Abandoned Dojo"
Yamazaki busted the Kyokugen Dojo and Marco went after him, so this is Ryo after Marco Left.
Unironically Marco in Garou is on par with prime Ryo since he mastered the Kyokugen, so Ryo by now is stronger than Takuma at his peak.
I hope the Haoh Shoukou Ken guy is a middle aged Ryo.
make it play like real bout and I'll consider playing it.
The effects / particles look way better than KoF XV.
That is true, but the jump isn’t as big as I hoped for, especially for a game that is likely 2 years away still.
finally, they look so ass in XV, especially on videos
True, the particle effects in XV look like radioactive pasta sauce. Aside from that, it looks like XV but with more cel shading.
The VFX in XV look super flat. Sparks or wind are probably the worst-looking moves.
To be honest, this looks nearly identical to KoF XV to me
The shading looks very MvC3.
I agree, but they still don't look great. They're just really ugly in XV.
>They're just really ugly in XV
They look fine, you're too much of a nitpicky homosexual to appreciate it at all.
I'm not nitpicking, I just look at it and think it's ugly. I'm not going out of my way to try to find ugly things about it, its a game with pretty flashy effects, and you're going to be seeing a lot of effects like that in any fighting game. You don't have to get down into the details of it to decide whether those effects look good or not.
>calling people having higher standards nitpicky
If it isn't someone acting like preferring sprites is the devil it's this shit. Least there's already proof of it looking much better than xv. Just hope SNK doesn't frick something up like matchmaking again.
This game looks like KOFXV but with slightly better graphics and effects. I don't see the point in this game existence unless you're a hardcore Fatal Fury fan, or unless the game has a really good story that couldn't have been told in KOFXV. They should've just combined games and have a seperate story for the Garou Universe, while the KOF portion is the main game.
>what’s the point
New fatal fury.
>but what about koF
Completely different mechanics/game
Some interview mentioned that this game will have a big emphasis on single player content so maybe it trades that over lots of characters.
Who knows at this point.
The fricking subtitle is literally "City of the Wolves", they're going to probably copy the frick out of SF6 and make an open world South Town 2 where you go around doing fetch quests and such.
There's ways you can do that on a budget too. No CaC, smaller areas more focused on a linear progression. With asset reuse they could still hit a roster of 16-18
https://gamestalk.net/post-182805/
https://arch.b4k.co/v/thread/618966464/
>The Crown Prince, who founded the MiSK Foundation, said, "I want SNK to aim for the glorious era of the 1980s, or even more." In response to that, he made a proposal aiming for the top 10 in the world and sales of 140 billion yen (*Capcom level).
>IP that revives past The Revamp (*described later) IPs also aims to be AAA. Aiming for AAA even for new IPs.
>Considering the potential of the IP, we would like more customers to enjoy it by providing genres other than fighting games, such as action, characters and stories.
>Eventually, I would like to create a flow that can be developed as entertainment in a broad sense, such as video content.
>We call such efforts to revive and reborn IP as "revamp" (meaning to improve, reform, etc.).
>(Q. Is the IP of fighting games such as Fatal Fury turned into open-world ACT or ADV?) We are looking forward to expanding into that genre as well. Developing into something with a story like action ADV or RPG is an important factor in expanding the IP.
>I am working on a 10 year strategy. As for future prospects, the current scale of 400 development personnel will be increased to several thousand. Also considering M&A.
A Fatal Fury beat-em up is a popular idea.
>>(Q. Is the IP of fighting games such as Fatal Fury turned into open-world ACT or ADV?) We are looking forward to expanding into that genre as well. Developing into something with a story like action ADV or RPG is an important factor in expanding the IP.
Anon onced brought up the idea of an Art of Fighting game in the style of Yakuza. When does AoF take place, the late 70's?
Everything about this screams "make a new Crystalis" but that just makes too much damn sense for SNK to ever do it
>When does AoF take place, the late 70's?
Yeah, Geese is in his 20s around AoF and in his 30s around FF. They intended to go even farther back with a FF game starring Geese but it never went through.
>The fricking subtitle is literally "City of the Wolves", they're going to probably copy the frick out of SF6 and make an open world South Town 2 where you go around doing fetch quests and such.
Street Fighter 6 copied the Yakuza games, how in the frick are you unable to see that what Capcom did wasn't original. People have been asking for a fighting game with this open district content for years, it's just that SF6 is the first proper fighting game to do it.
>This game looks like KOFXV but with slightly better graphics and effects
No it doesn't, I swear you homosexuals are just impossible to please. Your "precious" sprites are dead, get over it already goddamn.
Terry, Andy, Joe, Rock, Kain and Billy are already present in the artwork. This trailer basically confirms:
0:12 Hokutomaru? (or is it Andy?)
0:14 Mai
0:15 B.Jenet
0:17 Kevin Rian ("bingo!")
0:19 Marco (Old Ryo?)
0:20 Hotaru
0:21 Tizoc
I just want to fap to MILF Mai and B Jenet... and maybe Hotaru.
Just give me Mr. Karate Yuri
Speaking of rosters i doubt the whole cast from Garou will come back. Out are
>Freeman
Was supposed to be a hit against Remy (SFIII) who in turn was a hit against Iori. No one cares about all that now
>Hokutomaru
If his parents are in he's pretty much redundant
>Kim's sons
They will probably want to avoid having two very similar characters and just add Kim
>Marco
Redundant if they add Ryo, Yuri or Takuma
The rest of the characters will most certainly come back due to their popularity
>Khushnood Butt
fixed
>Marco Rodrigues
Unfixed since SNK has already dealt with the issue regarding his name in KOF XV.
Time to start an internet riot and demand they change the name back. Butt is soul.
Old SNK localizations are homosexual and painfully stupid.
Oh shit zoomer alert
Old SNK localization were always fricking shit.
At least attempt to make a coherent argument.
You're a no taste secondary, there's the argument. People loved SNKgrish and you here trying to be a history revisionist exposes how much of a zoomer you are.
.
Such a Chad even if he has that homosexual dog
Rip shitbull.
>Old SNK localizations are
Kino
You're frickimg moronic
Oh yeah may as well post this here
Was looking to see if there were any good leather jackets in the style of Rock's earlier cause the announcement. Didn't see anything good but I found a bomber jacket instead
https://animeape.com/products/fatal-fury-casual-bomber-jacket/
cool looking button ups but how's the quality
Lord knows but I want it. I've wanted a jacket in the style of Rock's for fricking years but until now the only thing I've been able to find is this fricking abomination. How do you frick up a simple logo that bad? It doesn't even have Keep The Faith.
Nice asset flip
It's clearly not your fricking moron, Terry and Rock's face look entirely different in this game compared KOFXV you stupid Black person
I fail to see the point if this is going to be on predominantly focusing on FF characters that are already in XV due to popularity.
It's not sprite based so clearly they'll be recycling as much as they can from XV, but if they bring in classic FF/Garou characters not in XV then people would probably have just enjoyed them more in XV anyway. Unless the game plays radically different this feels pretty disappointing.
Calling it now, they will pull a SF x Tekken and be porting all the "new" characters into XV if this flops anyway and charging for it too.
>charging for it too
Why shouldn't they?
We getting Hotaru’s super in 3D boys!
If they remove this, I will not buy this game.
Just say you're gay.
I actually like MotW and enjoy playing the Hokutomaru matchup. His double jump and teleports into the air make him interesting to fight against. What's Mai other than breasts? A shoto with condor dive instead of an uppercut? Who cares. Just jerk off.
Hokutomaru is trash to play as compared to Mai. Again, you're simply gay and she's in the game anyways so your opinion is irrelevant.
?t=37
Sounds like we're both getting our wish, and they aged him up
RIP MotW2 newcomers
More than half of the Garou characters were confirmed from the trailer if you guys even played the damn game and recognized their moves like SNK intended this trailer to be. The only Fatal Fury OG the trailer confirmed was fricking Mai Shiranui and of course she was going to be back
>we're going to see canon MILF Mai and GILF Yuri
holy frick
Uh, why would Yuri be a GILF, if Mai is only a MILF? Yuri is around 17 and Mai is in her early 20's. Neither would be GILFs by any extension, but Mai would definitely be the older one.
Wait, Yuri is 17?
Damn son, why post something this wrong? Fatal Fury and Art of Fighting are in a different canon and universe from King of Fighters, not only time passed in those games, Art of Fighting took place in the eighties, Yuri is over 40 years old by the time Mark of The Wolves took place.
No, he is dumb, Yuri was 17 in the first AoF but she grew up in each consecutive game, by AoF3 where she was only a NPC she was 21 years old.
This is the Fatal Fury universe, Yuri is older than Mai. Not a GILF but she should be in her 40s by Mark of the Wolves. Also now I want cougar Kasumi in the game.
>Also now I want cougar Kasumi in the game.
>Looks like her dad without a moustache
Heh.
Oh shit, you're right.
Art of Fighting happened in the 70's.
>Yuri is older than Mai
They are over 10 years apart specifically, that's the divide between the FF cast and AoF cast, it was KoF that tore that divide apart and made them be around the same age, in 94 that was the biggest indicator King of Fighters was just a crossover game they never expected to become their most popular fighter and grow a plot/universe of its own.
You gays really don't know about anything outside of KOF do you
I would've absolutely preferred Hokutomaru over Mai
wait, that's the first voice in their respective clip, isn't it. please be patient
Honestly I think if they didn't want to use him in the base roster he has enough to justify a dlc spot. I like his more comical animations but I wonder if they would translate that to the 3d models of this game. Characters like Jenet I expect to be way less expressive since they're just going to reuse the KoFXV model which is a shame.
This game most likely will have an adventure mode like SF6 since Oda said he wanted to do that, i can only hope it's good
Where did he say that?
>yfw you get a Spikeout-style beatemup with FF characters
How good is Spikeout?
It's among the best of 3D beatemups, as small as the genre is. Very arcadey. Slashout is also a great spin on it.
What are some good 3d beat'em'ups? Scratch that. Any 3d beat'em'ups are welcome. I've only played Fighting Force, Jackie Chan's Stuntmaster, Urban Reign and that one game on PS1 that started on some tanker or something.
Beatdown Fists of Vengeance
Godhand
Yakuza, kinda
Fist of the North Star: Ken's Rage 1 and 2
>Beatdown Fists of Vengeance
That one looks interesting.
>Godhand
I've never really considered God Hand as a proper beat'em'up because of the shoulder camera. But yeah, I've finished it.
>Yakuza, kinda
Finished 0-6 and HnK one. Burned out on it for a while, so Judgement will wait a bit.
>Fist of the North Star: Ken's Rage 1 and 2
These are musou, so I didn't include them in the list. I've played both. 1 was pretty barebones. 2 was great, but RGG HNK was better.
Crisis Beat
Gekido
Both are on PS1 and play like SoR in 3d.
Mortal Kombat Shaolin Monks
>"What if we took the SFIII parry mechanic...but somehow made it even more kuso?"
Please let them not bring this meme mechanic back. JD/IB mechanics are dogshit.
>I just read a wiki and will now deploy my stream monster opinion
Frick off
Okay, if you want to pull that card then how about it shouldn't come back since it only appeared in a single FF game? The core mechanic of the series had always been the lane system, why bring JD back but not the series' core mechanic? Honestly I think they're going to pull almost everything from MotW and I hope I'm wrong, would rather see more FFS and RB inspired design.
Uh, because it was the last FF game?
>JD is just parry
>line sway is the coolest
Just shut up already, frick
Line sway is cool, go watch high level RB1. JD is kuso as frick, non input parry is shitty as is but the fact it restores health is bullshit. "Lanes are shit" is a dumb meme by NA shitters who have never even touched the series.
They've already established they're only going to do one new character per season release, making their workload lighter. MotW2 was probably just decided upon because they can get a lot of reuse out of the KoF assets they've made, just do some minimal work to make it look more distinct and stage backgrounds will probably borrow shit from XV's stage.
>go watch
Kid. I played the games. Line sway's just OK. It's fine. It's there, and it doesn't take anything away. That's all. You're showing your stream monster ass dying on the hill that these games need line sway, especially since you're just trying to one-up someone who, again, plays the games, by writing off a mechanic by virtue of comparison to another mechanic that isn't as similar to it as you think. Can you tell me how guard cancels work in MotW without looking at a wiki?
Are you trying to use GCs because they can only be used from JD? In that case just make it work like break shots, not having the option available until JD is lame.
I play and like both Garou and the other Fatal Furys and you're just some kid who reads wikis and watches streams, so I have no reason to damper my optimism about this game based on your ignorance or bother talking to you at all.
>"I have no argument beside calling you a stream monster"
lol, yeah, you definitely "play".
Garou 2 could have JDs or breakshots and I'd be fine. It could have JDs and you'd cry like a scrub b***h. And probably just so you could fit in with other nerds with their curated social media opinions and never even played the game in your life.
>minimal work
Garou 2 already looks way better than kof15. Go look at the rock comparison gifs above
It looks way better because it doesn't take much to improve upon kof15's art. It looks the same with MvC3 like filters put over it and touched up effects.
>way
Better yes, but not by "way" margins for sure. This is being released 3 to 4 years after XV, deep in the middle of the 9th Gen, it will be judged under harsher lenses.
And it still looks weak. You gays said this about kof 14 and 15 as well. Now, whaddya know? 15 doesn't look so good after all, huh! SNKucks go through the same stages of cope every time. There's still no light source on the ki effects and the background looks lifeless just like XV. SNK does not deserve the benefit of the doubt. They haven't done shit.
>but the fact it restores health is bullshit
There's nothing bullshit about it, what the frick are you talking about? Stop throwing random multi-hit supers in neutral like a moron and your opponent won't heal himself back to full, it's really that simple.
>JD is kuso as frick, non input parry is shitty as is but the fact it restores health is bullshit.
You sound moronic and you've clearly never played Garou outside of fricking around with your shitter friends in it.
samsho had parry way before sf3, stfu
The particles are definitively more pleasing to the eye, even if a bit more generic.
Neat. Are their comeback mechanics or is this a real fighting game?
Also duck king...is SNKs best character in?
We don’t know anything about mechanics
>duck king
Probably fan favorite pick they show near release or dlc
mmmmm....
Nu Garou looks more different and better than I thought at first.
Sadly it is game for... 2025?
Dammit.
I do like the celshading here
Why this reppuken looks like a 2d animation.
It is 2d
why make this instead of focusing on kofxv? genuiely curious, I thought tthat fatal fury turned into kof
SNK didn't stop making FF games when they started making KOF games
No, they were separate series. Kof and fatal fury are like SF and their spin-offs
Who says they can't do both
Fatal Fury and KOF have always been different franchises and it's the home series of Terry and Rock. That's why they're making it to continue their story since KOF was supposed to just be a dream match and for the most part the crossover characters in KOF don't really matter to the "overarching plot" as much as whatever Hero KOF focuses on for its current arc
Plus it's a different continuity altogether. Geese is actually dead in FF while he's alive in KOF. The timeline doesn't allow for Art of Fighting characters to coexist since AOF takes place over 12 years before FF1
It's better Rock gets a sequel to the his cliffhanger from 1999 than getting his story just sorta shafted as a mini arc in KOF
Literally a passion project, Oda said earlier this year to Destructoid the old folks at SNK that still are part of the old guard managed to convince their higher ups to pursue a passion project, rather than focusing on a brand like KOF solely for profit.
But they did have to stop when budget became an issue, right up to two bankruptcies, and became clear KOF was the only fighter, along with SamSho, that they could really make a decent amount of money from. If they could keep KOF running concurrently with FF and AoF they would but it just wasn’t business feasible anymore.
It's going to completely copy SF6 and try to have a meaty singleplayer (I mean the title is fricking "City of the Wolves") and probably will have simpler mechanics compared to XV to appeal to normies incoming modern control scheme. This is their platform to try new things to garner a bigger audience because pissing off KoF vets would be a death sentence for them, this is why they can get away with recycling a lot of the cast from XV as well.
KoF's systems are too engrained in legacy mechanics so this is where they'll try "widening the audience". Anyone thinking this will bring back lanes is delusional, SNK is definitely going to make this their version of Street Fighter since KoF is so far removed from more traditional 1v1 fighters.
>It's going to completely copy SF6 and try to have a meaty singleplayer (I mean the title is fricking "City of the Wolves
As long as it doesn't have that gay World Tour mode.
My wishlish/ideas for a World Tour style story mode are:
>Instead of CaC, have it focus more on characters that are relevant to the main plot (Terry, Rock etc.)
>Make it something like Yakuza with multiple main characters (like in Yakuza 4/5)
>The rest of the cast can be npc's or allies/enemies in the story mode.
For example, there are 5 playable characters you can choose at the start. Say you play as Terry, at certain junctions of the story you meet/fight one of the other 4 playable characters. There will be certain story elements presented that will be left hanging until you play the other main characters. While walking around Southtown, you'll meet the other non-plot essential characters and NPC's and help them in a Yakuza style substory. It could be as simple as helping Hokotumaru train, or find Hotaru's missing pet, or something that also involves the main plot.
That's too much for SNK's budget.
A bit of this. It's gonna have some half-assed single player and baby masher controls. If you've been around long enough you can see it coming a mile away.
I really really hate to use this comparison by KOF is the Smash Bros of SNK. Just because KOF exists doesn't mean Fatal Fury, Samurai Showdown, Art of Fighting can't.
KOF sucks and is just a lost cause at this point. It's best if SNK just start focusing on other IPs if they want to get anywhere at this point.
I like it
I hope that they don't frick it up with the 3d female models like they did in KoF XV (with most of them anyways)
So are the voice lines in the trailer meant to imply characters who will get in or is it just noise?
I'm not doing all that speculation masturbation anymore cause most of the time, it's blue balling yourself. KoF teasers mentioned extra costumes, ad they were lying, so whomever they actually show, is in. All else is bullshit. That's it for me.
4 player multiplayer 2v2 with 3 lanes to play across
How would you feel?
You get to add a SINGLE KoF character into the new FF game. Someone that isn't any of the MCs or the MC's Rival.
Who do you pick?
Leona, she has grown to be one of the most recurring KOF original female characters.
Would Leona being there also mean Orochi exists in the story too?
Not necessarily, could be Metal Slug / Ikari Warriors Leona where her KOF lore isn’t portrayed.
King of Dinosaurs, he's the most mysterious newcomer and unlike anything that's appeared in Fatal Fury before.
>King of Dinosaurs
Anon, please..
I know it's a stretch, but I think he could make it in.
>Tizoc and John Cena vs King of Dinosaurs and The Rock
Who would win?
The ones with functional command grabs
Tizoc
and KoD
ARE THE SAME PERSON
YOU LIE
Nice meme, they have nothing in common, one is face and the other a heel. Can't be the same guy.
Tizoc was playing a heel you fool
>Tizoc was playing a heel you fool
The REAL Tizoc would never do that.
That impostor isn't fooling anyone but you.
It has to be Rugal since he has some sort of connection to Krauser, also Tung's disciples
You really want another game for the Mexicans to ban Rugal in?
Mexicans didn’t ban him from XV. Playable Rugal hasn’t been a problem for a long time.
lol
I'd love it but you know the same homosexuals here who said she'd never make it into XV would b***h and moan about fricking Rick Strowd again.
Did Vanessa and Rick Strowd ever blood related, I have heard that Vanessa uncle trained her or was inspired by Rick.
Shingo Yabuki. Maybe his style could be a tad more refined because of continued training.
Old man Shingo who has mastered his craft but is still kinda shit
i know you said no MC's but i would like to see kyo considering he hasn't been put in any kind of crossover yet
It looks fine. Sucks that we live in an age where fighting games across the board just look "fine" when they used to be the visual juggernauts of their heyday, but it looks fine.
New FF looks so much better than KOFXV
I thought that callback shot with Rock was a nice touch.
It's almost as if this game is newer and SNK gets better and better with 3D with every attempt.
Great, now it finally looks like a game that should be released on the PS4… in 2024-2025 when it gets released.
already looks better than sf6 thoughbesome
Funny, any time someone said kof 15 could look way better, they were called a hater. But now the fatal fury teaser is out, all of a sudden it's ok to say kof 15's visuals weren't the best it could look.
nice reading comprehension amigo
We don't post ironic tags about our own posts here. Hey alright.
They'll milk the shit out of milf Mary, she's DLC for sure.
No Duck King no buy.
I have a good feeling he'll be in.
Man I miss SNK's sprite work and pixel backgrounds. The most beautiful in all gaming.
Also what made the made them go bankrupt. Let it go anon.
>spritework made SNK bankrupt
the villain organization in Neogeo Battle Coliseum is literally named WAREZ
Yeah, and him too.
Anybody else confused why Duo Lon and not Shen Woo? Like are they going to do anything with the Hizoku or is he just here for gameplay reasons?
Shen Woo is kind of a weird character, not particularly powerful and all he's really known for is being one of the absolute biggest gorillas in the series' history. Someone like Duo Lon is a specialist character, whishc is "hype" to see even if few people will play him.
Hokutomaru ("Shiranui Kyuukyoku Ougi!")
Mai ("Shiranui-ryuu Ninpou")
Who else?
Immediately after Mai is Jenet. Haoh Shoukoken is most likely Marco
That is Andy, Hokutomaru is voiced as a brat, his original voice was Naruto even, not a young smooth guy voice. He hasn’t aged either since in-universe this seems to be right after Rock’s ending in the original MotW.
Then why is the young man using a Super Andy never used, but Hokutomaru has?
Andy had to create it and pass it down to Hokutomaru.
He didn't. Not a single game has Andy ever used that move
But Mai used it
Same reason Gouken got Denjin Hadouken in SFIV, despite being a move Ryu had shown first SFIII.
I think the issue with lanes is it seems outdated when 3D movement exists. In fact I half suspected this or a new AoF to go full 3D.
The 2 seconds shown of Terry and Rock doing their moves show it is definitely a 2D plane.
That's why I used past tense
Kinda disappointed really
SNK should be focusing on KOF
I have mixed feelings on SNK having the guts to support and develop all these fighting games series. but in all honestly, the content feels very derivate of each other
I don't really have much hope for a good Fatal Fury game
I really liked kof 15 but I've come to terms with fighting games going on a downward spiral
just let the fighting game genere die
At least they're trying, unlike Capcom and Bamco who have all but abandoned their non-flagship fighting game titles.
I mean
yeah good point
>and Bamco
The massive focus on Tekken is blinding you or something? They haven’t abandoned their other fighter at all, Soulcalibur still got releases, unlike Capcom who really has killed anything not named Street Fighter.
Being desperate for SC7 to be released in the same window as Tekken 8 is an unwarranted expectation.
Bamco touted SC6 as a soft reboot to try and revive its popularity, and it got the same reception as a wet fart. It's not coming back for a long time, if ever.
It sold 2 million copies lifetime and is literally listed as reaching expectations in their fiscal report in 2021, unlike SCV with performed worse. Don’t form your opinions from baseless internet posts, read what the actual company is talking about its product.
SC7 will happen the same way SC6 did, with a minimal budget and taking some of the Tekken devs after the current title, in this case Tekken 8, has been on the market for about 4 years so the team is available to help on other projects.
The real issue SC7 has is Okubo left and Japanese development often really needs a guy fighting the game's corner. So there either needs to be another guy who really wants it, or Harada who will decide 3D movement is gay again.
>The real issue SC7 has is Okubo left
Stop this fricking lie. Okubo was just the producer of SC6, he was never a developer. Years of spreading this bullshit here isn't going to make it true.
>and revive its popularity
It achieved that, selling 2 million copies lifetime, that is literally the threshold all successful past Soulcalibur titles reached, SC was never a series that grew beyond that mark, even its heyday with SCII.
I hope SNK finally have the resources to make this one a beefy package. It's gonna be out after all the big games that are really pushing features and formats.
hopefully it's better than kot
Will Yuri finally look like a proper woman for the first time since her debut in Art of Fighting?
they already gave up on having canonical birth dates, every fighting game have this problem
expect kof 15 Yuri
>No DOA Yuri
Frick Kula, you stupid b***h
>Frick Kula
>I'll frick her then I'll frick her up.
>characters entire lore is just a big masturbation joke
No wonder they brought K9999 back.
Too bad
GIGGTY Shock
KOF is an alternate continuity where time doesn’t matter, it froze after 95 and the FF and AoF cast don’t have a 10 year wall between them The original South Town verse Fatal Fury and Art of Fighting is part does employ a passage of time, there’s 20 years between Art of Fighting and Mark of the Wolves.
What will happen now is City of the Wolves likely removing the exact date the setting takes place, back in 1999 MotW took place in 2002, but since it looks like not even a year has passed in CotW then they can’t claim it is current times anymore.
I mean is it confirmed that it's a sequel and not a dream match situation? not that SNK would give an actual frick, or probably a soft reboot who knows
Direct sequel, Rock is on Kane’s side, that is literally following his plot from MotW.
It seems with KoF15 they've done away with dream matches. They brought everyone back through magic and its canon. If they needed to the scrolls will bring everyone back, stop aging and reduce Mai's sag.
Its a straight sequel
I just want her AoF3 look to finally be playable
KOF15 isn't set in 2022, it's set in the year 2007.
KOF isn’t set in any exact year anymore, since KOF 95 they froze everyone’s ages and no longer cited their ages and birthdates.
Lame. I like continuity and seeing characters age and change
You can’t find that in KOF, time passed in a fleeting way, like comic books and the Simpsons, XIV and XV for example just aged Rock up to his MotW version despite he being seen as a kid in KOF 2003 for the sake of making him playable, so things do change in KOF, but only only when SNK thinks it should.
Time passage was linear and normal in the original South Town universe Fatal Fury and Art of Fighting is part of.
>KOF isn’t set in any exact year anymore
Just because the date has been dropped doesn't mean time isn't moving forward. For example, Rock has aged into a late teenager, if it was still 1995 he would be a child.
>For example, Rock has aged into a late teenager, if it was still 1995 he would be a child.
Does Athena, Mai, Yuri, or any other character in their twenties look 10 years older to you? Time passed in KOF in a selective and fleeting way, Rock got aged up on a whim, not organically. Time passage in KOF simply is not the same as time passage in Fatal Fury.
Three words: Comic Book Time.
or
Two Words: Fleeting Timeline
The render looks damn good
Shame about how it looks on motion in the game.
The female character's chins are way too narrow
The most you'll get is DILF Ryo. Well, maybe not the D part, since he's too autistic to give King the time of day.
Never ever
>TOP is now V-trigger tied to your health bar
how would you feel
A desperation mechanic when you health is low is nothing new for fighting games, but in general frick comeback mechanics they end up ruining games.
Isn't T.O.P basically the original V Trigger with health regen?
Kind of I guess. More damage, health regen and an extra move. It isn't particularly overbearing and centralising as Vtrigger was but I wouldn't lose sleep over it being gone.
Yuri isn't in.
I'm not even sure if Ryo will be in, the roster seems to be Garou + some old FF regulars (Joe, Andy, Mai, etc).
Are those recycled kof xv assets(which already were kof xiv assets)? I cant believe snk woyld do this!
Keep trying shitposter-kun
I think both used the XV models as a base, but the more I look the more difference I see. Rock might even mostly be new as it seems his Jacket isn't key framed and clips for a moment.
Seems like they're really trying to emulate the details that Garou was known for. Terry's jacket and hair flowing now is nice. SNK is getting betterr with every 3D game they make. Wonder what they'll be like a few games from now.
Ryo was from 1957, Terry was from 1971. Dates are not canon, but their age gap probably remains because of the AoF / FF plots.
Assuming Garou Terry is 35, Garou Ryo would be 49 and Garou Yuri around 45.
>Garou Yuri around 45.
I fail to see a problem with this.
Me neither, but they shouldn't look like their KoF counterparts.
>Yuri around 45
>45yo MILF Yuri
>Still youthful at heart
>Can do some of Takuma's moves perfectly
>Could probably run the dojo but is content with raising her kids and getting dicked by Robert
At first I thought the graphics were just MvC3 tier. But watching in on the computer at higher resolutions there is a fair amount more going on. Rather than a step up from XV this is probably an iteration on SamSho. The hatch shading is really like SamSho's supers and I remember people saying the game straight up looked better when that was in full effect. It has has the nicer material detail from XV though that's partly down to reused models.
SNK still struggle with cheap looking lighting and clipping. Kinda doubt there will be a huge jump from here to the release but it is still likely early.
KoF already has a lot of "urban" assets, more likely they pull assets out the ass from there then the very Japanese settings of samsho stages. Rock looks almost ripped directly from XV, the filter kind of feels like a simple band aid to hid it. I honestly think it might have been cool if they just finished the original Garou 2 and sold that but a new entry in general is pretty surprising so whatever.
>Rock looks almost ripped directly from XV,
He's overtly the most different
. XV was used as a base but even his jacket is a different size and shape. Only thing directly carried over might be his pants but I'm not 100% sure. I think they're maybe going for a thicker look to characters here to fit with the comic style.
>"urban" assets
The stage was totally new. If you wanna complain that background bottle #3 was reused then you do you.
FF:CoW
Imagine the smell.
>everyone going muh sprites again
I sure hope you Black folk buy KOFXIII, this is your last chance
>KOF XIII fans
>Playing the game
Come on now.
>everyone going muh sprites again
Happens in every SNK thread without fail, I'd bet you money they won't buy KOFXIII when it releases again soon.
Maybe if SNK made actual good-looking or at the very least non shit-looking fricking products, people wouldn't constantly talk about how their games look mediocre and constantly talk about when they did pixel-art/sprites, the time when the stuff they made didn't look like shit. It's not everyone elses fault SNK doesn't seem to have the talent anymore to make anything good. No wonder all their franchise are stuck in literal who ville and the same 20 people care about them for 2 decades. The fans also seem to have zero standards nor any kind of expectations for SNK.
SHE IS IN
>still the same trash artstyle
KEK
>spritegay crying as per usual
Fatal Fury Bro's we are finally going home.
So is she and Terry married now
I wonder if we'd get that look or they'd feel the need to copy her classic look again. Same with Duck King's redesign, know people like the classic look but he's a guy who would move with the times.
It feels illegal to have jacket-less Mary while Terry is rocking his.
Will Terry finally frick her? Andy had a son with Mai and Terry hasn't even held hands with Mary yet. Rock needs a mother
>Andy had a son with Mai
That didn't happen, Mai, stop deluding yourself.
I hope she looks like this if playable. She looks like a QT in that get up.
The graphics are what I expected so whatever, but I was hoping it would be a bigger trailer and not a teaser.
I can't believe I'll finally see my Butt again I'm so happy
Finally I will get to play as my favorite character Kain for the first time.
You know he's playable in Garou right, you can play him right now
game old therefore bad
>we'll never see not-Pupa fully animated in 2D
a shame really
MOTW2-bros it's Quan's time!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Backs I Want To Jizz On, volume 9.
i hate how anytime someone mentions rock howard people start posting about this homosexual
>brings up max out of nowhere
>just to talk shit about him
>samegays to post more reaction images
Max schizo haters, lol
Yeah, like nobody mentioned him until that homosexual bring him up in the thread, like i don't like or care for Max but come on, that is living rent free in your head.
Ganker just hates successful white men.
Did anyone say "Rock Howard"?
ROCK HOWARD?
I LOVE ROCK HOWARD FROM CVS2..ERR I MEAN GAROU
This is not MOTW2, just another shitty 3D KOF.
Looks like KOF, would play like KOF, most characters are being reused from KOF... Its KOF (aka shit)
shut the frick up you Black folk were saying kof 14 was going to play like maximum impact years ago
>looks like KOF
ok
>most characters are being reused from KOF
>would play like KOF
source?
https://twitter.com/SNK_Lover/status/1688035210850381824
>FF: COTW essential part is at a reasonably advanced stage. 7 to 8 chars have their actions ready and can be controlled.
>From 2024 onwards, plans are to promote the game more widely. With a playable version available in an event.
>Drafts of a new Samurai Shodown are being made,but they are thinking of something different from a fighting game.
->kari, Metal Slug, Athena and Psycho Soldier, 2 of these 4 IP's are receiving prototypes and being evaluated whether they can become something good or not.
Would love to see TLB returning, but I agree that it wouldn't sell. Now a Way of the Samurai like game would be nice if we're talking about non fightan Samsho, just imagine
I think they consider Last Blade to have ended as the story is done. With SamSho being their samurai game and already on a secondary tier its looking like guest appearances at best. Samsho rpg 2 would be cool but I could also see them doing a character action or musou game.
think they'll add easy mode controls since people say kof is too hard to play despite those same people complaining fighting games are now being made for babies?
Its just the way of things now. Long as traditional is still there and they don't pull a GBVS:R I'll be fine with it. I actually thought GBVS original implementation at least had some neat applications.
Fells like SNK is always 1 generation behind when it comes to 3d graphics.
Smasho looked like SFIV and new Fatal fury now looks like SFV.
games going to flop hard
>older Hokutomaru
Lame I miss my brat
Garou: Mark of the Wolves
Fatal Fury: City of the Wolves
shouldve kept it as Garou honestly. You've had more than 20 years for people to sit and stew with that, and it helps differentiate it from the Terry focused FF games.
>shouldve kept it as Garou honestly. You've had more than 20 years for people to sit and stew with that, and it helps differentiate it from the Terry focused FF games.
Garou is literally the name of the whole series in Japan you moron. Garou Densetsu are the games with the OGs. MOTW dropped Densetsu in the title and only called it Garou. This new FF game is returning to Garou Densetsu as the title in Japan.
>Garou is literally the name of the whole series in Japan you moron
I know that, and my post was not concerned with what its called in Japan. Keeping the older games known as Fatal Fury and the Rock games as Garou was a good differentiator even if was the result of a mishap, They've now made Garou 1 stick out like a sore thumb when it didn't have to be that way. But thanks for your time in tending to the mentally moronic.
>Keeping the older games known as Fatal Fury and the Rock games as Garou was a good differentiator even if was the result of a mishap,
They fixed the mishap which is a good thing. Separating them like that in the first place in the west was moronic.
Disagree, its no different than suddenly branding Yakuza in the west as its proper name Like a Dragon despite the 10+ that's never been fixed. But I'm not really eager to buy the shit anyways. Its not going to live up to the idea of the Garou 2 that got canned, personally, and I couldn't settle for a pale imitation of what was romanticized.
>Disagree
They already corrected the title once. SNK clearly decided to keep the split same with Samsho vs SamSpi. Neither name has particular pull in the west but the few communities who care either know both or only know Terry from smash where he is advertised as a Fatal Fury character.
>garou fan excited to play fatal fury game for the first time
why are you seething this hard
im not seething but i dont think anyone would disagree when i say that the only people who play snk games are snk fans while everyone else likes to just hover around them and bring them up when they need to look cool
Jokes on you Fatal Fury Special was my favorite fighting game on the SNES
I'm just happy I can play as my guy Kain again after so many years.
You can't just not tease Blue fricking Mary
I can already foresee SNK putting Blue Mary with this costume and everyone here saying SNK is pozzed or some similar shit
She look cute though.
and everyone will pretend to be og blue mary fans too
I'm more of a Vanessa fan but Blue Mary's cool too.
Horseshoe theory is at its fricking worst this year, I swear.
I know this art is old but man feels like she stepped out of rival schools here
SNK classic character designs are wasted on them.
Look what Namco managed to do with Geese and Haohmaru (even when neither Tekken or Soul Calibur are graphical powerhouses)
>neither Tekken or Soul Calibur are graphical powerhouses
Yes they are you moron
Am i missing something, why are they making this? Kof15 is one year old, barely anyone plays it. SF6 just released, tekken8 soon, mk11 soon. On top of it, no one still plays fighting games in general, so top3 will divide the minuscule player base.
This is some sort of bankruptcy sabotage kek
>On top of it, no one still plays fighting games in general
Stop talking out of your ass.
it is what it is fggay
No it isn't. It is what it's actually not really is, wasn't homie.
>3D
Pass.
>skips an entire game over muh sprites
some "fan" you are you moronic homosexual, reminder that your "beloved" KoF13 nearly killed SNK. Never forget that you dishonest spritegay
Will Mai dress in a less provocative outfit now that she is older?
as long she has the body. go for it.
Are they gonna add mah crazy boy Freeman?
This is SNK. They heavily reuse assets from their games. So you can safely assume partial roster will be filled from the guys in KOF XV
I want for them to go into heavy story mode stuff with non-linear progression between fights.
Leave KoF for barebones fighting game niche.
This was older Robert in NGBC.
He looks 70 AF
Yes, this
artwork portrays the Kyokugen characters in the Mark of the Wolves timeline. Yuri looks damn young for someone in her 40's
as an old SNK fan this shit is like 0 hype. Just like all modern SNK games after KoF13. Whack and suck, go back to pixel or nice 3D. No shit in between is allowed, homies. Switching to SF6.
Pretty weak bait, no (you) from me.
> t. mad fat mexic**t
lol eat shit and enjoy your cartel 5th world
>muh sprites
Kof23 was a failure and nearly killed SNK, frick you and your sprites. 3D is objectively better than expensive sprites.
>nearly killed it
should have killed it
frick this 3d crap that looks like shit
I'd rather have 3D than nothing at all, just be glad it doesn't look like SF6 at the very least.
Wow another SNK title that wont last a week
Wow another scene player that quantifies a game by online activity. Sales will be all that matters to publishers and developers, a living scene comes second. Samurai Shodown was considered a success despite its horrible online and pretty much dead activity after only a month.
The efforts to implement things such a rollback and a functional match making only crossed their minds now.
Looks great but the colours look a bit off and I can’t quite put my finger on why
>ugly 3d abortion
not interested
>another braindead spritegay that would play it even if it had them
30 seconds of the whole trailer is the dumb logo
>GAROU DENSETSU
>CITY OF DA ROOF
>If you're looking for Rock, Billy took him to da ruff
>Literally no gameplay
>The gameplay shown is PS2 graphics
I hate SNK so much it's unreal.
>all this crying because sprites are dead
get over it you little b***h
It's the same attack, no shit it looks the same.
That's not the point dummie, the new shading looks way better.
Its the same shading tech they used for Samurai Showdown. Its not better, just different
How do you get "this guy is saying the attack looks the same" from that image and not "this person is saying, wow kofxv looks fricking mediocre at best compared to this" idiot?
There is better shading, proper clothing physics and mesh collision.
How is SNK the only company who learned how to ADD soul again instead of subtract it?
its pretty easy to add soul when your prior attempt was awful.
SNK always knew how to do soul in 3D. They just didn't have the ability.
Still not up to par to other modern games everyone can see they're at least making progress.
WAY better posing, this is back to classic SNK
I'll krump with you sweetiepie.
Notice the lines of energy following Rock's hand during recovery frames.
That's super cool.
Terry
Rock
Kain
Billy
Joe
Andy
Mai
Hokutomaru
Kevin Ryan
Marco
Hotaru
B. Jenet
Tizoc
YOU FRICKERS GONNA SMELL THE BUTT NOW.
You mean smell the Rodrigues. Not only SNK fixed his name but even removed the "z" from Rodriguez to actually make it seem like a brazilian family name.
I hope they keep butt, if only just as a nickname. Buff as frick dude rocking a pompodour while beating your shit in and his name is Butt. Dude's hard as frick. Like you get your ass beat by a dude named "Butt" and you aren't walking back from that. Anything you do after that point would just make you look like a side who is mad.
Dude, it’s over, KOF XV literally fixed his name in real time during Kyokugen’s Team ending.
F. They could've kept both.
I like how it looks, I'll pirate it and play it for 20 min like every fighting games.
snk fans try not to lick shit off the floor challenge (impossible difficulty)
Shitposters try not to doompost challenge(impossible difficulty)
It happens in every SNK thread
>muh sprites
>no sprites no buy
>3D is "ugly"
>animations are "stiff"
>looks like a PS2 game
all kinds of shit from so-called "fans" that refuse to even try the newer games at all and write them off entirely because they don't like how it looks. SNK for whatever reason is always given such a hard time here, I think most are butthurt over the lack of sprites despite nearly killing them years ago more than anything else. Not because the gameplay is bad or broken, the things they should care about. But no, they're entitled whiny homosexuals that won't support their games, but still say they want a CvS3 so they can pose as "long-time fans' assuming it ever happens.
The "fans" who shits these threads are a bunch of larpers calling themselves oldgays who never played the old or played for a few minutes and calls themselves "fans"
Kinda like some Shiiite fans of another franchise
As someone who first played Fatal Fury with FF2 for the SNES, I'm happy SNK is alive again. And while I would love some new sprite work, one, the people who made those games ate gone and two, we can't keep going back to the past. And in my madness, KOFXIII looks nice, I like the Real Bout, Garou, LS2 & AOF3 sprites more.
why do you think SNK is at all unique or exceptional when it comes to the amount of hate? What is happening to snk is exactly what happened to capcom when they shat out marvel infinite except snk kept putting out ugly games with only marginal improvements. SNK is producing shit that looks like Capcom's first disgusting attempt at 3d but 15 years later, if SF6 looked exactly like SF4 in 2023 it would get just as much shit.
ngl it would be cool if they used ai to generate spritework
I think this is the first game nu SNK have made that isnt offensively ugly but it still looks mediocre. I dont know what the frick they are doing with the lighting, their bodies are receiving graphic shadows but their faces and hair are blown out, why are they so afraid to have shadows on their head?
>I think this is the first game nu SNK have made that isnt offensively ugly
KOSXV looked good too, are you that butthurt over sprites being dead?
>it looks "mediocre"
It does not, if anything it retains the feel of the original sprites too, you judgmental homosexuals just refuse to be happy no matter what SNK does, conveniently forgetting they're smaller than studios like Capcom or ArcSys and don't have the kind of cash that they do.
I don't give a shit about sprites, I just want a game with art direction and not an obvious struggle with technology and budget. KOF 15 is disgusting, every single discussion of that game outside your SNK cult bubble was just an endless sea of "why is this game so ugly?". Until they make a game that looks good without delusional snk equivocations and excuses they will continue to make discord fighters.
>I don't give a shit about sprites
I don't believe but I'll assume you're being honest
The think art direction is fine, I think looks pretty good and is much easier on the eyes than SF6 for damn sure. People like you for whatever reason will never give SNK or their games fair shake. The reason it was such a common topic was because it was low-hanging fruit and an easy target, it also helped that no one ever shut the frick up about it. They even released a free patch to improve the graphics but I can't say how much good that really did but I respect them for even trying at all.
I don't care if they "try" i care if they succeed, because you're such a massive snk wiener gobbler you are willing to give them credit even if they fail and you compare their games only to their prior failures. snk has a history of pushing artistic and aesthetic boundaries, its not unreasonable that people came to expect some of that dna snk.
15 is objectively and technically ugly, SF 6 is subjectively ugly, i agree SF6 like SF 4 are ugly but they are competent and i can see actual art direction taking place even though its not my taste. When i look at SNK all i see is incompetent artistic and technical flailing. They are finally approaching some kind of style with garou 2 but it still has vestiges of kof 15 jank in its look.
>because you're such a massive snk wiener gobbler
I find it weird af that people try to use "le brand loyalty" for a company that's never had it. It sounds forced and only a moron would assume that this means anything as an argument
It happens irl too. The difference between 14 and 15 can be significant for certain people. It's honestly interesting, if it is Hokutomaru then SNK is actually aging up their characters again proper which is something you really don't see anymore in fighting games. When's the last time that happened, Mortal Kombat 10? Street Fighter 6 pretends to be Next Gen but outside of Chun-Li it sure doesn't fricking feel like it
>snk fans dont exist
you really expect anyone to believe that? every snk thread on this site is full of the same delusional fanboys who defend every new game then shit on the last for being ugly.
Goalposts Successfully Moved
>I'm not an snk wiener gobbler because nobody else likes their games, which means i don't exist.
mmm, interesting logic chain.
You're right about them being smaller than capcom but arcsys is smaller than SNK by a third atleast and a half at most. Last time I checked SNK had like a couple hundred more employees.
Short hair Mai would be a good option for an older version. Really I'd want to see her and Andy's daughter cause you could take either being rebellious or ultra serious in fun ways
>More 3d shit
No sprites no buy, simple as
>No sprites no buy
Even if it did, you wouldn't buy it. KOFXIII proved you whiny spritegays to be full of hot air, you claim to "love" the series but never show up to support it during the times when it matters most.
not him but why would you expect me to support it when the thing i like about it is missing? Yeah im shallow and like how their old games look, that's why i own and supported kof 13 and not 14 or 15.
I just want my bro to bring his son home. :'(
So is this just another version of KOF? It looks identical and shares the same characters so what's the point?
1-on-1 style and the gameplay is massively different.
So KOF with 2 less characters...What's the POINT?!?!?!
Because the gameplay is fun? Ever play Mark of the Wolves is fun game.
homosexuals like you are why Darkstalkers is dead
Now that SC, darkstalkers, rival schools and every other sub FG series is dead I can at least respect SNKs willingness to diversify their output, its obvious they love their heritage and prioritise that above straight cash. It's weird how they are able to do this on a shoestring budget yet even when a series sells millions capcom or bamco drops it.
You mean a KOF where the South Town characters are relevant and carry the show.
>So is this just another version of KOF?
no it´s worse
>We get to hear Ami Kochimizu going full ham with her MILF Ara Ara voice
>Now as Milf Mai
Brehs? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_5iOVmb5-4
>MILF
>still drawn to look 14
Thanks I hate it
The map part is amazing. You can hear "Shiranui Kyuukyoku Ougi!", a phrase only Mai and Hokutomaru say, but the voice sounds too old compared to Hokutomaru. CotW is probably not even a year after MotW, so was it Hokutomaru witha new VA or Andy using Hokutomaru's move?
"(???) Abandoned Dojo" is suspicious too.
I would lean towards SNK just saying "frick it" and overhauling Hokutomaru as not being a kid with Naruto’s literal voice actor anymore, excusing it as him going through a massive puberty spurt after 1 year or so since Rock went to Kain’s side.
I think we are gonna have Hokutamaru, Mai, and Andy. I feel this game is gonna have a Masters vs Students theme.
I hope not. I want my brat boy.
I've always wanted a fighter to bring back a kid character as a massive brick shithouse. Just think it'd be funny.
If he did have puberty, then more than 1 year passed.
Not much time has passed since Rock looks straight out of his introduction to Kaine’s gang at the end of Mark of the Wolves. In anime/manga land only a single year has been used to make a teen character such as Hokutomaru mature massively in several works.
>not 2D
It's over
I can't wait for them to royally frick up this game again like they did with KOFXV by ignoring the matchmaking problems for 500 days, said problems not even being fixed despite the crossplay update.
At least I'll get some training mode hours if they add the boxer kid from the cancelled sequel.
here´s your garou Mai
needs more lensflare
There are homies in this thread lusting adter middle age Yuri and Ryo.
Why yes, men of culture of course.
Dunno why people are fretting, SNK acknowledges Master Karate 2's existence.
People are just wondering if it is him or Marco, yes Ryo’s existence is acknowledged in Fatal Fury, he was a non-canon secret character in Special and a canon character in Wild Ambition as his older Mr. Karate II version, but since this is a sequel to MotW one would be left wondering if SNK prioritizes Marco an actual MotW character of Ryo, a old timer from the same universe but not really a Fatal Fury character at earnest.
Even with middle east money they can’t make a decent looking game
Looks bad and cheap, but not as bad as cheap as Street Shitter 6
>current year
>not a single Japanese person can talk decent english
If they could it wouldn't be s0vl.
Good. Keep it that way. Engrish will always be cool as frick.
"Raigingu Storm" and "Fainaru Goodnight" sound like SOVL.
Alice in KOF XIV actually spoke her English attacks very well, I think her voice actress even is a mixed American/Japanese person as too.
Attack names sound better in Engrish than they do in English or Japanese
inb4 the game ends with either Southtown or Second South entering a state of decay, is later renamed "Jipang City" at some point in the 21st century and fixed up a bit (but still a slum), then an aspiring King Lion takes advantage of the power vacuum left by the aftermath of what went down on Geese Tower, leading to the events of Savage Reign and Kizuna Encounter.
and so the SNK cinematic universe begins.
I want old man Kim
I mean sure he still keeps his youthful looks in Garou, but give him stuff like a five o'clock
I wonder if Art of Fighting can get a similar revival if this does well enough?
I would love to see it, but seems kinda harder to invest on since Fatal Fury really grew to be more popular than Art of Fighting, how well known their final games in the series were really show how apart became: Art of Fighting 3 was short lived while Mark of the Wolves became a cult classic.
AOF3 was also a spinoff that was called Gaiden in JP, it was never intended to be the "third" game for the series. The actual third game got scrapped because of KOF. It was supposed to focus on the Sakazakis vs. the Kisragi clan in Japan
AOF was always just a spinoff to Fatal Fury and I think when KOF absorbed it, the identity of the franchise kind of dissolved entirely while Fatal Fury still stands on its own because it was more like SamSho in uniqueness compared to KOF. This game was significantly overdue because of MotW's cliffhanger
Was he gonna keep the Power Dunk of he got that Rising Tackle?
>Garou thread got to bumplimit
Granted, like 1/5 are SNK doomposting, but still.
Actual franchise reboots are more interesting to talk about than anything KOF is capable of doing. That's mostly because KOF has always kind of been the same and the most different it ever got was back in XI which was almost 20 years ago. Since fighting games are supposed to last +4 years in FGC time nowadays, KOF isn't ever going to change much ever again
Not a bad thing, KOF is basically SNK's Dream Match franchise after all
SNK really needs to hire outside help or something for these graphics, jesus