I'm not sure there's pictures of myself past 2020, and I know that if i took any it wouldn't be save and memed on by thousands of people, like Toby would get
Pretty much everything he's made is a masterpiece. Even the stuff that doesn't need to be good like Can You Call This a Hotel I Mean I Didn't Get a Mint under my Pillow or Anything is much better than it needs to be.
>Artists are artists, artists are artists
You said the same thing twice
2 years ago
Anonymous
Let me explain it to you, if ALL artists steal, then all of music is just Grug's mammoth bone flute music, since we know that is not the case, that means art has CHANGED in the millennia since Grug. The artists who brought us from Grug's flute to what we have today, are artists, those who just copied what the artists did without bringing anything of their own to the table, are hacks. Toby is squarely in the latter category since by taking other people's existing melodies and covering them with retro music fonts, he contributed nothing.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>he contributed nothing
The music he made is better than the music he "stole" it from. So I'd say that's a contribution.
2 years ago
Anonymous
It's not, you just have an emotional attachment to it because you're a manbaby, from an objective creative standpoint he contributed nothing.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Objectivety on art is a ruse. As well as art itself. Because specially now, Art has been tried to apply to politics, specially with lirycs and shit like piss jesus. Art is something to the observer and the one who made it. Its subjective, and plain art is a reproduccions and doesnt add anything, meanwhile "modern" art is pretencius and scatalogical. Art is nothing else than a label we add to something that is good, and take away from stuff that we dont like. Using art and objective on the same phrase, only shows you are a mononeuronal monkey who doesnt know what hes talking about. >Inbt. ESL, yes, thats why I know more about the concepts around the shit that art is than you, golem
2 years ago
Anonymous
That's a lot of words to say "I'm a hack who has never come up with anything original ever"
2 years ago
Anonymous
You don't need to come up with something original to make something good.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Being original is what separates artists from hacks
2 years ago
Anonymous
No it isn't. Making good things is what separates artists from hacks.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>artists, make good original things >hacks, make good unoriginal things >hacks, make bad original things >hacks, make bad unoriginal things
2 years ago
Anonymous
What's your point
2 years ago
Anonymous
Toby's a hack
2 years ago
Anonymous
So?
2 years ago
Anonymous
So it's inaccurate to say "pretty much everything he's made is a masterpiece"
2 years ago
Anonymous
No it's not.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Yep, it is
2 years ago
Anonymous
Nah. Toby's a genius.
2 years ago
Anonymous
We have conclusively proved he isn't
2 years ago
Anonymous
We didn't.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Yep, we did. You might be illiterate.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Nah. You never said he wasn't a genius.
2 years ago
Anonymous
A hack cannot be genius by default dumdum
2 years ago
Anonymous
Hacks are geniuses.
2 years ago
Anonymous
We use artist as someone who makes music, makes pictures, sculptures, etc, etc, Hack is the shit you do by cracking a videogame. You are just jealous someone did something better from your shit music. Thats the truth about it. You just cant imagine being worse than someone who "stole" from you. Get frickeeeeeed
2 years ago
Anonymous
>hack >/hak/ >noun: hack; plural noun: hacks >1. a writer or journalist producing dull, unoriginal work. >"a bunch of Hollywood hacks rewrite it five times" >2. a person who does dull routine work.
Bye bye ESL
2 years ago
Anonymous
>words words words
Bye bye UOL
2 years ago
Anonymous
Focus on the "word" instead of the fact.
I can say scrimblo 20 times on the internet with an actual and solid definition and it will stick on a dictionary if enough people use it. Your point?
2 years ago
Anonymous
Good think Toby's work isn't dull or unoriginal.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Yet it is both
2 years ago
Anonymous
Nah. You just can't feel the soul.
2 years ago
Anonymous
doesn't that imply that hacks make work that is both dull and unoriginal at the same time
but you said that hacks can make good, unoriginal things and bad, original things which is wrong according to your own definition
2 years ago
Anonymous
If a hack copies a good work and does a good job of copying it, he produced a good unoriginal work, it's just that its quality can't be attributed to him
2 years ago
Anonymous
Yeah it can.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Nah, when your buddy takes you to hear a good band, you don't attribute the quality of their music to your buddy
2 years ago
Anonymous
Nice nonsequitur
2 years ago
Anonymous
Toby is just leading you to music others have made so it's the perfect analogy, you just lack the English comprehension and logic skills to understand it
2 years ago
Anonymous
Toby writes his own music
2 years ago
Anonymous
Nah
2 years ago
Anonymous
???
2 years ago
Anonymous
You heard me
2 years ago
Anonymous
Wow this post riled up all the tobygays, must've struck a nerve
2 years ago
Anonymous
have you never heard of a talented artist phoning in a project? you are aware that The Godfather Part III was made by the same people who did the first two parts? it's going to be harder for you to find any creator who has a flawless record than it is to find someone genuinely talented that's done mediocre hackjobs for one reason or another.
2 years ago
Anonymous
so are you gonna post your copypaste of random songs or what
2 years ago
Anonymous
>all of music is just Grug's mammoth bone flute music
Literally yes. The next guy to make music remembered Grug's mammoth bone flute music and tried to play something like that. And even Grug just noticed you could make a bone make a funny noise sort of like the birds if you carved it right. Every musical innovation is predicated more upon "what convention do we explicitly try to go against" than "what can we do that nobody does".
2 years ago
Anonymous
Good, now read the rest of my post.
2 years ago
Anonymous
The rest of your post is blatant lies that have already been addressed. Toby doesn't just take old songs, change nothing, and give them to us.
2 years ago
Anonymous
That's incorrect
2 years ago
Anonymous
Then post actual examples that are the same and not "oh wait he used that short melodic idea for a song with a similar overall tone".
There's something about Girl Next Door that really does it for me: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=osv7bOpLzfc
but also I'm a sucker for ZUNpets: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWBtpBwzzdM
Black
Liquid Blackcity gets a pass too for being a jammer https://homestuck.bandcamp.com/track/black-3
https://homestuck.bandcamp.com/track/liquid-Blackcity-2
Megalovania
Battle against a true hero
The main letimoff for undertale and his theme
ASGORE
Attack of the killer queen
The world revolving
Chaos King
Rude Buster
Death by glamour
Snowdin.
Descend is still his best, and probably the most impressive use of leitmotifs in a "cutscene" ever made. There's cues from something like 20 different previously established theme songs in that 4 minute track.
Undertale babies who don't know his Homestuck work should be quiet.
a fun webcomic thats last half is an shitty unnecessary sequel to the complete story that is the first half. It is only notable nowadays as a footnote in the career of Toby Fox. It's both a shame (since the first chunk was actually pretty fun) and totally deserved (because half of it is terrible).
I think videogames in general should spend a higher budget on its soundtrack. Just look at how memorable shit like Undertale, Touhou, God Hand, MGR is from it's music alone.
I 100% agree. There was a real golden age of vidya OSTs at the turn of the century due to the fact that you could suddenly have CD-quality music in games. Ridge Racer Type 4, Jet Set Radio, Katamari Damacy, Forever Kingdom, Sonic Adventure... all fantastic OSTs. It's been a shame to see the industry slide into the same generic orchestral crap that's been plaguing hollywood. I've got nothing against chiptune at all, but the fact that it's basically the only genre where games consistently have good music is a real shame.
Also, it's nice to see someone else who acknowledges how great God Hand's soundtrack was.
I don't like any of his music due to it just being soundfont abusing garbage but the one that stands out is Another Medium, which ironically is the only one that was not featured in that shit orchestra.
Also, he never released the soundtracks for both Undertale and Deltarune properly, both play back at the wrong rates, and for Undertale especially, its pretty shit considering its the same price as the game and is missing tracks. >muh samegay >muh schizo
Cope Undergays, doesn't change the fact that your soundtrack, which you praise so fricking much, wasn't released properly as opposed to just about every god damn game ever made.
"Soundfont abusing garbage" sounds good to me, what can I say. And I'm not particularly a fan of Another Medium. It's good, but it just kind of "rambles". (I don't know the actual term, not versed in music theory.) >missing tracks
What the hell are you talking about?
Is this guy just absurdly ugly? This is the only picture that exists of him and it's probably a decade old.
there are others, but that pic has an umistakeable energy
>even younger
Post one picture of the guy taken after 2020
okay that's fair enough, but that's blatantly because he's publicity-shy
I'm not sure there's pictures of myself past 2020, and I know that if i took any it wouldn't be save and memed on by thousands of people, like Toby would get
The most recent picture of him is from 2018
mogs me
Yeah, that's around what I expected.
ugly israelite
>passes the green line test
Toby-san... I kneel.
Didn't he Troon out?
>those nails
He's getting there
No, his most recent interview from a month ago call him a "he".
(the interview is pretty meaningless, so don't waste your time watching it, just read the description)
Another Medium
This anon gets it
The only correct answer
Field of Hopes and Dreams
For me, it's black. But that's probably just because of the animation that it was made for.
Pretty much everything he's made is a masterpiece. Even the stuff that doesn't need to be good like Can You Call This a Hotel I Mean I Didn't Get a Mint under my Pillow or Anything is much better than it needs to be.
Even the stuff he plagiarized?
Oh it's you again, are you ever going to provide evidence or just looking to be known for something moronic?
All artists plagiarize.
Hack cope
I'm a musician. I plagiarize all the time for my improvisations. And my music often sounds better than what I plagiarize from.
>I'm a *hack
Fixed that for you
Hacks are artists.
Hacks are hacks, artists are artists.
>Artists are artists, artists are artists
You said the same thing twice
Let me explain it to you, if ALL artists steal, then all of music is just Grug's mammoth bone flute music, since we know that is not the case, that means art has CHANGED in the millennia since Grug. The artists who brought us from Grug's flute to what we have today, are artists, those who just copied what the artists did without bringing anything of their own to the table, are hacks. Toby is squarely in the latter category since by taking other people's existing melodies and covering them with retro music fonts, he contributed nothing.
>he contributed nothing
The music he made is better than the music he "stole" it from. So I'd say that's a contribution.
It's not, you just have an emotional attachment to it because you're a manbaby, from an objective creative standpoint he contributed nothing.
Objectivety on art is a ruse. As well as art itself. Because specially now, Art has been tried to apply to politics, specially with lirycs and shit like piss jesus. Art is something to the observer and the one who made it. Its subjective, and plain art is a reproduccions and doesnt add anything, meanwhile "modern" art is pretencius and scatalogical. Art is nothing else than a label we add to something that is good, and take away from stuff that we dont like. Using art and objective on the same phrase, only shows you are a mononeuronal monkey who doesnt know what hes talking about.
>Inbt. ESL, yes, thats why I know more about the concepts around the shit that art is than you, golem
That's a lot of words to say "I'm a hack who has never come up with anything original ever"
You don't need to come up with something original to make something good.
Being original is what separates artists from hacks
No it isn't. Making good things is what separates artists from hacks.
>artists, make good original things
>hacks, make good unoriginal things
>hacks, make bad original things
>hacks, make bad unoriginal things
What's your point
Toby's a hack
So?
So it's inaccurate to say "pretty much everything he's made is a masterpiece"
No it's not.
Yep, it is
Nah. Toby's a genius.
We have conclusively proved he isn't
We didn't.
Yep, we did. You might be illiterate.
Nah. You never said he wasn't a genius.
A hack cannot be genius by default dumdum
Hacks are geniuses.
We use artist as someone who makes music, makes pictures, sculptures, etc, etc, Hack is the shit you do by cracking a videogame. You are just jealous someone did something better from your shit music. Thats the truth about it. You just cant imagine being worse than someone who "stole" from you. Get frickeeeeeed
>hack
>/hak/
>noun: hack; plural noun: hacks
>1. a writer or journalist producing dull, unoriginal work.
>"a bunch of Hollywood hacks rewrite it five times"
>2. a person who does dull routine work.
Bye bye ESL
>words words words
Bye bye UOL
Focus on the "word" instead of the fact.
I can say scrimblo 20 times on the internet with an actual and solid definition and it will stick on a dictionary if enough people use it. Your point?
Good think Toby's work isn't dull or unoriginal.
Yet it is both
Nah. You just can't feel the soul.
doesn't that imply that hacks make work that is both dull and unoriginal at the same time
but you said that hacks can make good, unoriginal things and bad, original things which is wrong according to your own definition
If a hack copies a good work and does a good job of copying it, he produced a good unoriginal work, it's just that its quality can't be attributed to him
Yeah it can.
Nah, when your buddy takes you to hear a good band, you don't attribute the quality of their music to your buddy
Nice nonsequitur
Toby is just leading you to music others have made so it's the perfect analogy, you just lack the English comprehension and logic skills to understand it
Toby writes his own music
Nah
???
You heard me
Wow this post riled up all the tobygays, must've struck a nerve
have you never heard of a talented artist phoning in a project? you are aware that The Godfather Part III was made by the same people who did the first two parts? it's going to be harder for you to find any creator who has a flawless record than it is to find someone genuinely talented that's done mediocre hackjobs for one reason or another.
so are you gonna post your copypaste of random songs or what
>all of music is just Grug's mammoth bone flute music
Literally yes. The next guy to make music remembered Grug's mammoth bone flute music and tried to play something like that. And even Grug just noticed you could make a bone make a funny noise sort of like the birds if you carved it right. Every musical innovation is predicated more upon "what convention do we explicitly try to go against" than "what can we do that nobody does".
Good, now read the rest of my post.
The rest of your post is blatant lies that have already been addressed. Toby doesn't just take old songs, change nothing, and give them to us.
That's incorrect
Then post actual examples that are the same and not "oh wait he used that short melodic idea for a song with a similar overall tone".
Post your music. You're not a hack, are you?
Whinner arrest
He did just speed up Hotel to make that one.
Even Ghouliday?
There's something about Girl Next Door that really does it for me: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=osv7bOpLzfc
but also I'm a sucker for ZUNpets: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWBtpBwzzdM
I prefer the remixes of Girl Next Door. The original song sounds a bit too much like an Animal Crossing song or something.
one that isn't talked about a lot but I think is a banger
you three are men of culture
Penumbra Phantasm
for me its Another Him
Based as frick. Something about this track is so amazing. I can't even describe.
>moonsetter is forever tainted
What? What happened to moonsetter?
Vriska
>>>/vt/
kys homosexual
who are you quoting?
You can tell how much Toby loved the Doctor motif.
this one really is the best. IBack when Homestuck was still good. Wish it hadn't gone downhill after kino Cascade
Made up Yume Nikkis
https://fwugradiation.tumblr.com/post/20325508850/made-up-yume-nikkis-dark-tunnel-amphitheater
>the theme that got reworked into the song for that "well, there is a man here" song
Oh, neat.
Bonus track: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uivFFnCI8tM
>chapter fricking 2 boss theme is good enough to be a final boss theme in most games
I can't wait for the later chapters
>Implying the CH2 soundtrack was better than the CH1 soundtrack
It was. Chapter 1 had gravitas and chapter 2 was deliberately lighter.
I frequently think about BIG SHOT to this day.
It's so fricking good.
Quiet Water
Black
Liquid Blackcity gets a pass too for being a jammer
https://homestuck.bandcamp.com/track/black-3
https://homestuck.bandcamp.com/track/liquid-Blackcity-2
Dont fricking spoiler links to homestuck. Frick, I dont want to be moronic
And, oh shit, I forgot he did English too. Reversing the song and its motifs to be just as enjoyable as played forward was brilliant.
You're in an Undertale/Deltarune thread. You are already cripplingly moronic.
Noooooooooooooooo
the one that goes doodododo doododo odododododdddddddddddooooooooo
Hopes and Dreams / Save the World is the greatest boss theme in any game and that's a shoot.
Megalovania
Battle against a true hero
The main letimoff for undertale and his theme
ASGORE
Attack of the killer queen
The world revolving
Chaos King
Rude Buster
Death by glamour
Snowdin.
Descend is still his best, and probably the most impressive use of leitmotifs in a "cutscene" ever made. There's cues from something like 20 different previously established theme songs in that 4 minute track.
Undertale babies who don't know his Homestuck work should be quiet.
For me, it's Nightmare Knight, which he'll absolutely remix for the Knight in Deltarune whenever that happens.
>Nightmare Knight
Based Kirby-soundfont enjoyer
Septette for the dead princess
toby fox is a genius
>toby fox is genius!!
>nu uh!!!
>toby fox is genius!!
>nu uh!!!
>toby fox is genius!!
>nu uh!!!
Christ how long are you two going to keep at it?
Everyone always mentions how this song got remixed into Pokemon, but no one ever mentions how much of a fricking banger it is.
to this day I have no idea what homestuck is
a fun webcomic thats last half is an shitty unnecessary sequel to the complete story that is the first half. It is only notable nowadays as a footnote in the career of Toby Fox. It's both a shame (since the first chunk was actually pretty fun) and totally deserved (because half of it is terrible).
Homestuck era Toby is good
Undershit era and beyond Toby is baaaaaad
I only read homestuck for the first time last year so I'm not biased.
>You people are really stuck on the past
I think videogames in general should spend a higher budget on its soundtrack. Just look at how memorable shit like Undertale, Touhou, God Hand, MGR is from it's music alone.
Wasn't undertale composed on a pirated copy of FL Studio?
I 100% agree. There was a real golden age of vidya OSTs at the turn of the century due to the fact that you could suddenly have CD-quality music in games. Ridge Racer Type 4, Jet Set Radio, Katamari Damacy, Forever Kingdom, Sonic Adventure... all fantastic OSTs. It's been a shame to see the industry slide into the same generic orchestral crap that's been plaguing hollywood. I've got nothing against chiptune at all, but the fact that it's basically the only genre where games consistently have good music is a real shame.
Also, it's nice to see someone else who acknowledges how great God Hand's soundtrack was.
Unparalleled kino
friendly reminder Toby Fox is so fricking dirty rich at this point he hired an entire Japanese orchestra to perform his shit for well over three hours
>implying he's not on a yakuza leash by now
The orchestra is free for the gaijin chuuni
every time i hear this i cry like a b***h
same for hopes and dreams
Every time I hear Kirby's Block Ball Stage 7 I cry like a b***h
Oh shit how does he get away with it
"An Apple Disaster!"
I've seen that image a million times and never realized it was Toby.
Spider Dance
Luigi Puzzle 1, from Mario no Super Picross.
I don't like any of his music due to it just being soundfont abusing garbage but the one that stands out is Another Medium, which ironically is the only one that was not featured in that shit orchestra.
Also, he never released the soundtracks for both Undertale and Deltarune properly, both play back at the wrong rates, and for Undertale especially, its pretty shit considering its the same price as the game and is missing tracks.
>muh samegay
>muh schizo
Cope Undergays, doesn't change the fact that your soundtrack, which you praise so fricking much, wasn't released properly as opposed to just about every god damn game ever made.
"Soundfont abusing garbage" sounds good to me, what can I say. And I'm not particularly a fan of Another Medium. It's good, but it just kind of "rambles". (I don't know the actual term, not versed in music theory.)
>missing tracks
What the hell are you talking about?
Arrest hussiegay.
>ctrl+f sephiroth
>0 results
pathetic
>The simpsons leitmotif at the end
Good shit
>he hasn't seen the 2015 Toby fox interview
Is this cringekino or just cringe?
are you the cringe police
it's cutekino
>he hasn't seen current year Toby Fox nail cringe
context?
see
That's from 2018 you liar
MAKE HER A MEMBER OF THE MIDNIGHT CREW
Black
Always thought Waterfall is great
If I were going to adventure and stumble upon long forgotten Gid, this BGM would probably playing in the background.
test
Undertale is a masterpiece
Okay Toby but don't you have like work to do
Most kino fight and soundtrack in the game for one of the better characters.
Umbral Ultimatum
This fricking guy and his motifs live in my head rent free.
I like Toby's music, but the GaMetal renditions are much better.