It's so over lmao
Take me back to 3rd edition
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It's so over lmao
Take me back to 3rd edition
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>it was a misprint guys relax
watch them walk this back
If I were them I would've done it intentionally so that I can walk it back and then shift blame for the lack of further (actual investment-requiring) expansion of the concept with, say, miniatures.
In a lore basis this is actually the only intelligent way GW could have handled this. The Emperor created the Custodes bespoke as essentially his gay discord friends because he couldn't talk to normgroids and he was too busy gaslighting the Primarchs to actually be normal around them. Him making female Custodes is believable, but it opens us up to a very serious problem, which is that this will canonically establish whether the Emperor has good taste or not.
Based GW
40k would be better if it wasn't such a sauage party
Misters of Silence when
Given the talent of GW in sculpting women's faces, they wouldn't even need to make any new models.
You know that unironically wouldn't be a bad way for GW to expand the selection of Anathema Psykana models.
Just make them an all male sect comprised of all male nulls, say they were doing some other shit for 10,000 years just like the Sisters were before girlyman and got recalled a little later.
Also make them all blind or something rather than silent like the sisters, sort of a "Hear no Evil, See no Evil, Speak no Evil" sort of thing.
Brothers of Blindness
There, done. You can pay me now GW.
Fricking ESG hires man…
>hate custodes
>hate women
>now I can hate both at the same time
Based, thank you GW
Who is this for, exactly? Women don't play this game.
they will still poison the well for fun
>women in my plastic toy soldier line
>the west has fallen, billions must die
Correct. Which part are you having trouble with, exactly?
If we cant even enjoy a plastic toy what can we enjoy?
They do it just to spite people who actually play the game.
And it's hilarious. I play orks but I might just buy a couple femstodes for the keks if there ever will a model.
It's actually a pretty clever ploy to squat the custodes.
>now that Custodes let icky girls in they're no longer Super Super Special Space Marines and thus no longer the Timmy faction of choice
>the massive nerfs means tourneygays aren't touching them either
Next GW will cite bad sales, dump them into Legends, and then fold them purely into HH like they did to Beastmen and Savage Orks in AoS
GEE-DUBS TAKE MY ENERGY. I cannot express how much I hate Custodes and the people who like them. Nothing would bring me more joy then them having their status as an army stripped and being sent back to cleaning up when the Emperor shits himself like the jannies they are.
Custodes players famousy all believe that they are women.
Shareholders. They expect to MAKE TE INCLUSIVE MESSAGE. Also, so women working in sales were probably pushing for it because MUH WOMEN
the real answer right here
I never understood why shareholders would do that.
And for how long can they keep demanding it? How many have to go broke? Until they learn?
People will tell you whatever boogeymen their griftlords informed them about this week but we all know the real answer.
Gooners. It is always Gooners.
>Female Goblin in your d&d party? Gooner
>Fantasy novel focussed on athletic woman in chainmail bikini? Gooner
>Pitching Sisters of Battle in the early 90's? Gooner
"B-but a lot of them don't have pretty faces" The Gooner does not and functionally cannot care. Is there a pair of boobs, thighs and no dick? Then they shall Goon. It is the reason they awake in the morning. Their raison d'etre for living.
Who wants giant gold muscle women? you know who. You've always known.
>and no dick?
The more powerful sort of gooner has that be optional rather than mandatory.
The no dick part is a downside. The bigger the better. Huge veiny throbbing precum-oozing mouth-watering towering girlwiener fits muscle mommy aesthetic perfectly. Like I CAN goon for a dickless chick but I really rather wouldn't if I had an alternative.
You're as wrong as you're moronic. It'd be coomers if the byproduct of those infestations were hot women. It's always frick-ugly troll women without a smidge of femininity. Their bodies aren't curve, they aren't hot, they have fat asses, they're not even pretty to look at, and you'll have all your book covers and most book arts featuring them, preferably demeaning other men.
There are tons of weak willed homosexuals in the world today. They eat this shit up.
Coomers
I dunno, who are SoB or the bawd elves from AoS for?
For the virile straight white males.
coomer money
Setting this up for Amazon shows and movies. They can add females and avoid backlash.
Women do play 40K. They only play Tyranids, though.
I'm not that into 40k, but I enjoyed some of the Fantasy vidya and was excited to try out the tabletop game now that the Old World is back. I guess that's all down the drain now, since I have no guarantee GW won't start shitting it up like this too. Oh well, saved some money at least.
>it's a nomodels vidyagay coming up with excuse after excuse for why he'll never own models
>Figures clustered around the craft’s landing legs, where the ship’s great metal claws gripped the radiation-soaked dust of the wasteland. These men and women were plated in the same gold as the ship, rendered upon their bodies with painstaking artistry. My father’s guardians, Sanguinius thought. And what a thought it was, not only that a being such as his father required guardians, but that he had a father at all.
From Echoes of Eternity. ADB already won.
sisters of silence are also gold
But also have blank aura that would most likely be mentioned as Sangy's wings are paychic in nature. It was probably left vague on purpose as ADB pushed for Femstodes. Also being named golf Guardians in ornate armors do make it feel more like Custodes rather than SoS. Also if it can be noticed they are woman in those armors.... We may have something... Interesting on our hands.
Of course they have a blank aura that's the whole point of them, I'm just hyper-coping and convincing myself we only just got to Clown world.
I mean we may get fanart of tall oiled up muscle girls. I am okay with it personally. And it was ADB who pushed for it so it's not really GW bending to ESG or Black rock or whataver. Just listening to someone with a dream of tall golden woman.
>I mean we may get fanart of tall oiled up muscle girls.
Yeah like we got fanart of hot muscle mommy Stormcast Eternals.
That's because no one plays AoS. Fantasy lewds are exclusively due to Total War.
That comic about some elves captured by lizardmen made me ejaculate copious amounts of semen, if you know what I mean.
>That's because no one plays AoS.
And there's tons of horny artists waiting to draw Custodes? Please, "hehe, the horny art though!" Is the most pathetic excuse for any lore change.
>All custodes begin their lives as sons
Seems pretty blunt. I wonder why people said it was up in the air as to the gender of custodes before?
Begin their lives as sons does equal not transitioning later in life
A single word that could conceivably be used as a collective pronoun is not airtight lore but keep grasping at straws
cope.
My last mini since I stopped playing that piece of shit game, say something nice about my sentinel :))
How is this a bad thing? The people who wanted female supersoldiers got them and they're from the most powerful type of supersoldier in 40k, while space marines remain a sausagefest for the pure masculinists.
>The people who wanted female supersoldiers got them
They already had them with both Sisters of Battle and Sisters of Silence. If you think this will stop the femarine crusaders you're sorely mistaken, it'll only embolden them.
>lists two standard guardsman statline troops
The only "super" female units in the Imperium line were Callidus Assassins and those aren't soldiers.
SoB can canonically almost go toe to toe with marines tard.
NTA, do you think the people who want female marines know or care about that?
Yeah and Colonel Straken strangled a Night Lord commander with a root, doesn't mean Catachans are Space Marines.
The closest SoB get to marines is as hats.
Sisters of Battle aren't "super-soldiers" though - not in the same way. SoB are just recruited from the most devout and physically able members of the Schola Progenium - the same pool storm troopers are recruited out of. They're just given bolters and power armour instead of hell-guns and carapace, and live a much more devout life than storm troopers.
Nuh-uh, I'm a straight white male, and I fully support 40k embracing women being a thing in the universe.
>"wow you play fsm, thats not lore accurate! get your head canon out of here!"
>*femstodes confirmed canon*
>"guys just make up your own headcanon where no girls are allowed"
lmao
>Take me back to 3rd edition
The edition where having chick custodes would have been in line with fluff, because the jannies barely had any lore?
...the edition where they weren't even a fieldable army, you wet pile of dog spunk
The plastic Baneblade coming out in 4th edition was the end of 40k as a reasonable game.
I played them as GK, pulling together GK arms, HE sprues for the helmets and Calgar's backpack, inspired by the WD article.
Shut the frick up when your betters are talking.
>4th edition was 34 years ago
i know this is bait, but since the person you're replying to specified " the plastic baneblade released during 4th edition" instead of "4th edition, when the plastic baneblade was released", your attempt at bait makes no sense.
>The plastic Baneblade coming out in 4th edition was the end of 40k as a reasonable game
newbie here, why was it the end?
Paved the way for knights, flyers and other models that are way too big for the scale of the game.
Fair, I guess
Except 3rd edition was also written before every writer and commentator in the world became a moronic homosexual obsessed with shoehorning women into combatant positions at every possible opportunity. Because they were still sensible enough to know how fricking stupid that is.
>Sensible
40k is based on heinous disregard for life of all kinds. You have White Shields, biological manipulation, entire groups of second class citizens, rampant poverty clashing with lavish aristocracy, and a universe held together by a false religion designed on fear and hate. It's not a sensible place and no life, be it man, woman, or child, holds any value to anyone but the individual (Death cultists not withstanding).
While I would always hope the SM do not add women supersoldiers to their ranks, Custodes do get a little more wiggle room. Much like the Arbites, the Custodes has more internal politicking that dictates their success and, ultimately, access to the best and brightest biologis Terra can muster.
I don't like it and it is moving in a direction I'm not a happy with almost certainly at the behest of forces that will keep pushing... but I can tolerate it if they go the fetish route of sexy feminine curves giant lady.
imagie being genuinely upset there are girls in a faction now
must be rough being in middle school
Empress incoming soon. Can't wait for more magical asspulls like 'the emperors alter form or his sister or Erda reappearing'. And then she will save the male Emperor and rule side by side.
Also can't wait for them to 'fix' the production of custodes so they can have millions of them to basically age of sigmar 40k.
>age of sigmar 40k
Brilliant, I didn't even consider this. But it might be because I never really got what it is exactly in AoS that makes the chuds seethe. Does it just boil down to "old good, new bad", or is there something deeper?
AoS is not very good, I think that's the core of it.
It had a poor start, which they've tried to fix, but it's too late. Even now the fluff is patchy, deliberately so that nothing matters so anything can be sold.
And I've actually tried it.
They can sell more age of sigmar female stormcast and modify the sculpts minorly to fit 40k. Great way for them to offload inventory if AoS takes hits.
>But it might be because I never really got what it is exactly in AoS that makes the chuds seethe
It's simply borring and ugly
But the seething isn't proportional to just that. If it was just boring and ugly, why would anyone care about it enough to seethe?
>But the seething isn't proportional to just that.
Because..? The biggest wave of seething came out after Thorpe admitted that AoS was created solely for copyright sake and WHFB was killed off to ensure AoS will make some money
grrrrr im so mad at these things that havent happens yet and i just now made up
Im not even mad. I just think Games Workshop wants money and it was just a matter of time. Also now there can be kidstodes if theres male and female custodes.
>Eugenics confirmed for Imperium
>master custodes race begins replacing baseline humanity en masse
>still making up his own rage bait
must be nice not having any real issues
Eh I saw it coming when they made female stormcast. Didn't AoS come out close to when Custodes got released as a physical faction?
In Frankenstein logic it memetically makes sense but there's several assumptions there that wouldn't necessarily be the case.
If it's a case that any 'human' can reproduce with any 'human' of the opposite sex then the eugenics scenario would already be the case with half-custodes replacing baseline humanity, if not there's no reason to think custodes would be more genetically compatible with each each other than baselines, even presuming they were still fertile. Even if they can reproduce it's possible the kids would be baselines, no reason for the eggs and sperm to be generically anything else.
Maybe they are like eldar and just don't make kids often. It would be cool if the Eyes of the Emperor pretended to just be really loyal and competant nobles whose kids were very compatible with the Custodes process so thats why the Custodes recruit from Terra since they would have former half custode genes to have higher success to make up for recruiting from only one planet.
Also this makes Bile's effort to make new men completely pointless since the Emperor alreqdy did it.
You make a custodes by putting a babby into giant archaeotech machines for years and hoping it comes out alive. You don't make it in a womb.
We shall see. Maybe thats how they transform normies into custodes. We never had female superhumans en masse so who knows what this entails. Hell the last overpowered genetic superwoman warrior was that legissatre overpowered assassin that could make copies of themselves.
Maybe custodes makin babies is a secret method to bolster their numbers so GW can spam more of them into their sales and lore. They said the grey knights numbers got bolstered from the psychic awakening so who knows maybe GW will retcon the abysmally low troop counts for the elite factions too.
She was explicitly designed to make copies of herself, custard babies as far as we know still need way more than just a mommy custodes.
Meh. GW-sculpted women always looked male anyway.
>Take me back to 3rd edition
Nah, 2nd
Femal Custodes would make more sense than female Marines, since each Custode is supposed to be individually crafted, with gene-modifications specifically tailored for that one person, while Marines all go through the same process of implanting the gene-seed, which only works on men (and not even all men, as they have to be genetically compatible with the gene-seed, but that's still leave a comparatively large pool of potential recruits than with the Custodes where you have to modify the process on an individual basis). If the Emperor wanted to make a female Custode it shouldn't be any harder than making a male one, as in both cases he'd have to tailor the process to fit that particular individual's physiology and genetics.
Sorry sane and reasonable anon, lore implications are of no concern. We are here to screech about child-grooming dick-chopping leftists threatening our Totem of Masculinity.
>primaris marines le bad
>advancing the timeline le bad
>votann instead of old squats le bad
>female custodes le bad
You gays hate every single change in the lore that GW makes. Why stick around when you're having such a miserable time here?
Based.
>Why stick around when you're having such a miserable time here?
Dunno, ask yourself why you wasting time defending GW here instead of returning back to where you belong
I like femjannies because now women are the most incompetent faction in 40K and to blame for everything
>failed to protect the Emperor
>failed to stop clowns for creampieing the Emperor's corpse
>failed to stop genestealers from setting up a cult on Terra
>failed in the Indomitus Crusades
>got BTFO and executed like dogs by Black Templars
Man, I should see if Krekkov is willing to do some guro with femstodes getting raped and mutilated by genestealers, harlequins, and chaos marines
>noo don't look at me whilst I eat shit directly from GWs butthole
sorry i sould have pretended to eat the shit online then spend my freetime constantly complaining about it
>You gays hate every single moronic change in the lore that GW makes
Yes
Weird how all the points you listed are 8th and later hmmm
Why are GW pretending this isn't a retcon
You know that the term "man" often refers to all of humanity in 40k, right?
Like the "Imperium of Man"
Yet the word "Man" doesn't appear anywhere in those quotes
all the people mad at this never played to begin with
all they did was listen to lore tubers and pirate audiobooks
I have an entire bookshelf piled high with 40k and HH novels, worth a few grand in total at least. This is very bad.
Im not mad, just disappointed that the final bastion of unrepentant lore indifferent to marxist indoctrination has fallen to the troons and npcs like you. The second writers have to kowtow to progressive hivemind slanneshi group think is the second quality writing falls off a cliff. Dan Abnetts last bequin novel was the real hint of progressive wankery and shameless pandering, now the slippery slope into troon marines that arent emperors children will be a mere matter of time.
I've bought my last hardcover, I have the entire HH series and the seige books, I'm going to stop here. Frick em. The lore is now dead. Creativity kowtowing to modern dystopian political agendas, so cringe.
guy with the largest chip on his shoulder:
>I have the entire HH series and the seige books
You spent a thousand dollars ruining warhammer and then have the gall to complain about the writing quality
lmao
I pirated a black library book literally last night
it's not worth 50 fricking cents
imagine having a shelf of this pulp
grim
the tabletop game is cringe and lame and always was, the books, certainly not all of them, where a breath of fresh air when they weren't about space marine chapter XYZ wankery.
Many were good, not all, but most, Abnetts earlier works were fantastic books that hold up well on their own, he just didn't know when to quit while he was ahead, and most artists talents degrade with age, whether through success ruining their creative drive or turning their books into axes to grind with the public and their new-found political agendas, Abnett being a massive case of the latter with the last few. He is becoming very hit and miss now.
There was only a small handful of books i didn't like, one of them i just threw out cuz all the stories sucked (Fear the alien).
>Make a setting satirizing facism
>Facists latch onto it
>Get told to frick off
>They keep buying anyway
Why are 40k rightoids such cucks? Or is it like a humiliation fetish thing where you stick around despite the company telling you you're unwanted?
Why are you an illiterate moron?
There is literally nothing wrong with being a lore secondary (such as myself).
i got into 40k in 99 and hate this
ive actually fallen out of the hobby long before this though, because GW made the setting into some noblebright warcraft in space bullshit even before things like put the final nail in the coffin
How big are their breasts?
Proportionate to their athletic 9' frames which means big for (you)
imagine.
This would depend on them actually wanting to make a better world, so you know that's schizobabble.
Better world yes, for them but not for us.
If greenskins believe there are woman Space Marines / adeptus etc there are. That's just the lore man.
The reasons are Malcador would've used Femstodes as an example when trying to push for the emperor making all male primarchs and space marines and if Femstodes were a possibility then why didn't Emps turn Sisters of silence into them having your personal super-mega super soldier guard be fricking blanks would probably serve you better in your war against chaos then having two separate forces.
Emperor's super soldier mojo is warp based. That's why there are no blank custodes, and why the Forgeworld Heresy books started mentioning that there are no blank Space Marines either (although there are a few exceptions in BL books, there are also psychic Sisters of Silence).
I thought Blanks were primarily female for some unexplained reason hence why Sister of Silence were a all female faction, and that male blanks were some artificial process to generate blanks but that causes some negative effects and madness.
>Emperor's super soldier mojo is warp based.
How new is this information? Again I thought the Custode process is Bio engineered from his own personal genetic stock versus the water downed version of the Space Marines. The two being the same process/having the same rules. I'm aware of his warp frickery but considering they can exist in his presence and around other custodes that lore tidbit seems kind of dumb wouldn't that mean they would cause organ failure in those specific bits of the Custodes and since they fight with each other wouldnt that show the Custodes version of the gene seed appearing to be stronger and be able to handle it. The main point this move feels convoluted and just makes me ask more questions into why now with the only answer being outside forces instead of anything in universe.
Blank gender ratios were never explained, nor is there a reason for SoS being all female except someone needing a female organization in 30k when no SoB existed.
Blank marines not being a thing for some reason was in the first FW Legiones Astartes book.
My headcanon is that they're worried about the gene propagating because of how much the Imperium relies on psykers, leading to them splitting males/females into the Culexus Temple/SoS.
Controlled interactions, maybe have a few produce kids to keep numbers manageable, but don't end up with problems because you've gathered tens of thousands of people with the gene.
>Ganker secondaries getting mad because they think custodes are astartes.
shouldnt you be posting twitter screencaps on your home board for your keemdaddy drama alerts?
it's perfect
what the morons don't realise is
>why would an immortal being want female companions for his entertainment and guards
>if they're hand crafted, what aspects would he want for companionship that a male custodian cannot offer
the coomers are right, and morons think it's a big win while they cheer for sex slaves with genetically engineered custom veganas for
>gene seed extraction
I will say that I think this dude gets it. Give the progs what they want, but in the most infuriating way possible. Monkey paw these arseholes.
What if they make them hot?
Then reddit will continue openly jerking off about them for another few weeks.
It's peculiar that the guys seething about female custodes in youtube seem to be the greasiest neckbeards imaginable or secondaries.
It's not peculiar at all. If you've spent any extended period of time playing at a Games Workshop, you'll see that that's just what most Warhammer fans look like
Post models
Taking a break from screaming the Fallout show is a woke flop while consooming it all and reinstalling Fallout 76. They are npcs that think npcs can't be right wing.
10 foot muscles girls are finally canon
This is what happens when you let shit be designed by companies and comittees. If you have a creative project, never, ever let go of it, even if it gets big. Never let these fricking parasites come in and start corrupting and tarnishing your creative vision with their bullshit.
I have a fully painted death guard army, black legion army and a necron army. I'm sitting on several K of space marines and tyranids.
I will never buy another kit again if this turns out to be sincere. I'm tired of being manipulated. I'm tired of being worked over by vicious demogogues who think they have any sort of moral authority
>I'm tired of being manipulated.
Literally what the frick does this mean anon, holy shit drop the main character syndrome
No. Eat shit. You are not the boss of me. You have no right to control me or edit my morals.
No literally anon, what does that mean. Explain how a company printing words you don't like is "manipulating you". I'm genuinely curious
They changed the damn lore to suit the political tastes of the manipulative demogogues. I don't trust you to have an honest conversation about this. Already I detects signs of disingenuous behavior on your behalf.
dude thinks hes the main character of a dystopian fiction novel
The playing dumb thing, for example. After being exposed to this distinct technique for 14 years, I've little patience for it
Being deliberately disingenuous is what homosexuals do. He is part of their audience, whilst they're not directly addressing him they're still addressing him.
It takes a special kind of snake to lie to your face, knowing that you know he's lying to your face. These are the people who claim moral superiority
>grand standing this harr about the fictional history of plastic figures
14 years of this. I'm tired of your stinking nuts. I don't think it would kill you if there was a corner or two of the earth that didn't reek of them
nah i own your ass
you'll think of me and my stinky nuts on ypur death bed
me entering the "chip on my shoulder competition" when this guy walks in
>Wah I have built my enitre life and personality around consuming a product and they CHANGED IT!!!1!!
That's a frickin you problem. Stop being a turbo autist and develop a personality that doesn't revolve around someone else's shit
Yeah because that's what the new Tyranids look like. Or the new Orks. Or the GSC. Oh no the Necrons have one canonically trans character in a race that literally doesn't have sexual organs!
Shut the frick up and move on
>just eat shit and shut up!
No I'm literally saying move on. Do something else with your life
he loves being upset and complaing too much
the victim complex is an addiction for him now
Oh boy. "Everyone's subjective experiences are valid except for those of the people I dont like". The playbook is only so big, and it's been running for over a decade. Over and over again.
Tiresome.
when did i ever say something as homosexual as "everyones experiences are valid"?
youre shadowboxing
>I go to this amusment park all the time and you changed MY FAVORITE RIDE and now I'm owed something
Your feelings are valid, you're just moronic
Based GW finally understood what makes a product marketable to everyone.
Halo just proves that crazy = hot.
Older femstodes doing Eyes of the Emperor duty better have this bodytype.
>not hypermuscular
>no gigantic raging boner
>no massive mammaries
What are you, you speak coomer but there isn't a shred of true coomer spirit in you. Your picture is disgustingly vanilla.
It doesn't state biological sex. Maybe Calladayce was born AMAB and started identifying as a woman.
she looks older in each one of these pictures. is it not normal for women to grow breasts as they age from what would you say that is, i'm bad at this, 14 to 28? The weird part here is an AI aging physically, but since she's aging mentally too, from a basic program to something capable of going rampant it makes sense
>Maybe Calladayce was born AMAB and started identifying as a woman.
Custodes can't identify as anything other than the tools of the emperor.
> product marketable to everyone.
>posts dead franchise
The point is that they didn't actually do that with Halo but should have.
>The point is that they didn't actually do that with Halo but should have.
So that 40k could die like Halo?
No, Halo died because they didn't do things like in the comic, and 40k would have died without big titty female custodes too.
>No, Halo died because they didn't do things like in the comic,
But they did exactly like you wanted.
They didn't.
The funniest (and saddest) thing about most 40k babbies, is that even after a decade+ they STILL cannot grasp their minds around the concept of "give them an inch, they'll take a mile" with these wackos. Just because a ship is shinking very slowly, doesn't mean it's not doomed to do so.
Like zero (0) connection with the cultural zeitgeist and what's been going on. Like if their close their ears and eyes, everything will pass away. Astounding really.
GW is not the gubment they are a toy company. If people dont like shit they dont buy it and it goes away. The problem is and has always been consoomers.
Thats exactly what I plan to do. When my preorders come in to the LGS, I won't be going there to pick them up. And then there wont be any more preorders
They'll probably appreciate you no longer smelling up the place.
>X is bad
>"don't buy it"
>X dies
>"why didn't you buy it?!"
i know GW got a lot of investment, but what exactly happened in the mid 2010s that made the hobby explode so much? they have higher revenue now than ever as well
is it loretubers?
first vidya licensing
then pandemic led to alot of people picking up new hobbies
Nope
All wrong
lack of bullying is what made it big, before you would hide these embarrassing children's hobbies, cos people would make fun of you, now it doesn't happen
t oldgay that had a white dwarf on deployment 20 years ago and half the platoon secretly asked to read it
My guess is GW started to hore out the IP heavily. So it got spread out and more people found it. They'd ban loretubers if they could.
This is a range of models dumbass. Nobody loses their GSC or Tyranids by not buying a different army.
God you secondaries are getting your panties twisted today.
the exact same thing happened with vidya games. every fanbase has a large faction of people who are irrationally loyal to the product no matter how shit it gets and will consoooooom anything related to it no matter what
>zero (0) connection with the cultural zeitgeist
That's you though. You are the one sitting in a tiny bubble trapped in an echo chamber and getting pissed off at all of reality. You will never understand this even with how blatant it is, but I am going to make sure you read this. That's you. You are describing yourself and not the enemies you made up in your head.
Is there a cultural zeitgeist? I thought things were too fractured for that
playable custodes was a mistake. grey knights being more than a one-off elite choice was a mistake. harlequins being a whole faction instead of a one-off elite choice was a mistake. making stormtroopers a whole army instead of elite choices were a mistake. Basically all of 40k past 2009 or so was a mistake.
all the shit that fueled a decade of butthurt started then. dreadknights, riptides, centurions, mutilators, flyers, etc etc etc.
Stop buying their shit you stupid homosexuals
They did it. I'm done. My 20k nightmare is over. I dont even play the game. I just paint and buy news ones way faster than I can paint them.
Three armies. Just sitting in a box. Fully painted.
Part of me hopes this wasnt a mistake. Part of me wants to be free
So now we wait for Space King to release a miniature war game to fill the void I guess.
Just as with the debate about female space marines, the core problem here is that people get caught up within In-Lore reasons against or for it - the latter of which you can be sure to hear from the same people who said that lore is dumb and can be changed for femmarines that will be now persistent on there never having been an explicit statement about Custodes having to be male. I don't care and you shouldn't as well. The Space Marines are all male, because its part of their aesthetic as monastic warriors and it leaves them without the other half of humanity, which they are removed from - same goes for the Sisters of Battle. The Custodes follow the same pattern, tough reminiscent of more ancient warrior brotherhoods with the Sisters of Silence beeing their counterpart, just with them beeing more closely assosciated to begin with. This is why this is bad, its an obvious breach in the established aesthetics and theme of the faction and wether or not its kept in the details of the lore or changed is irrelevant.
correct. good post
Oh right, the Holy Inviolable Aesthetics and The Eternal Unchanging Theme which have never shifted in the slightest in the history of wh40k as an IP.
I'd post this around, but I just know some homosexual will try and answer "Joan of Arc" and I'll get caught up in trying to explain how she already exists in the form of SoB - down to the Franco-symbolism - but they won't accept that, never will, and won't be happy until everything is a rainbow sludge.
>verification not required
Joan of Arc in 40K is basically Celestine, right?
>You: This is the aesthetic
>GW: Eh, we're changing the aesthetic a bit because we own it and we want to
>You: ABLUH BLOO BOO HWAAAH WHY DID YOU CANGE MY IMAGINARY BOYS CLUB MUH AESTHETIC ABLOO BLOO BLOO
Cope and seethe, your reeees are hilarious
why are you vehemently against people not liking changes made to a hobby they have invested time and money into? do you actually believe every change GW makes to the setting is innately good purely because they own the IP?
No I just like seeing incels and rightoids screaming about the most absolute stupid shit imaginable and try to pass it off as some sort of moral crusade they're making from their Razer gaming chair in their mom's basement
I am angrier about the shit prices and rules but be a poof in your own time
It was a moral crusade that brought about the change in the first place. Chuckles
you're generating an equal amount of seethe over the fact that they don't like the change
NTA, but people buy into a hobby knowing that it isn't going to remain static. At least, they should know that. So complaining about changes seems pretty stupid when:
A: You know it's a possibility from the beginning
B: You don't own the IP and, thus, are powerless to stop the changes.
okay, but thats like saying you shouldnt be sad when your mom dies because you know its going to happen anyway
No, it's not the same. One is the woman who gave you life and a flesh and blood human you've known all your life. The other is plastic army men that someone else wrote stories about that you just happen to enjoy.
They are not the same.
>when anon doesnt understand what a metaphor is
No, your metaphor was just a shitty one.
not at all, you just took it far too literally because you aren't very intelligent
NTA but his metaphor wasn't a shitty one. He used "like" which makes it a shitty simile, not a shitty metaphor.
They can do what they like with their IP of course, and I can choose not to buy it. Plenty of 9th Ed kits still out there on ebay, I've already got all the armies I need. That's the beauty of physical media, I'll always have it as I liked it. Nu-gw can go suck a dick.
Which is another reason you shouldn't be complaining about it. If you already have the models you want and the lore you want, then who cares what changes GW makes?
because it means there will be no new content that he likes. are you that stupid?
Its 2024, there's more content now than could ever be consumed by any one person. And there's even incel focused content for you babies
Why are you here exactly? You seem to like going into places you don't like then getting irrationally mad at the people you find there. Not exactly the actions of a normal, rational person.
See
you dont get to decide on what is enough content for someone
Then why would he make that "I don't care what they do with their IP I'll just play with my old models" post? Does he not care or is he upset? Because he can't both not care and be upset. Sounds like anon is either being dishonest about his feelings one way or the other, or he doesn't really understand his own feelings on the matter and is trying to work through them.
You could ask me yourself tard. I care enough to not buy their new shit, but am I angry? No, they're just plastic army men at the end of the day. Much like any other company that does things I find distasteful I'll stop supporting them and move on. I'm not going to lose sleep over it.
Ok bye Felicia
>I asked a boomer for their opinion
I knew you lot were stupid but holy frick
That post made you so mad you replied twice to it. Holy shit get a life loser lol.
>I'm mad so you must be mad too!
Nah, I'm having fun. Femstodes literally have no impact on me other than giving me this feast of amusement while y'all lose your collective shit like a baby without a pacifier
they clearly are having an impact on you because you are losing your shit at anyone who dislikes them
the change is done out of purely ideological motivation. Not even financial concern. Countering this is all the reason I need.
This is what I don't get. If you hate it and it offends you, why are you spending all your free time engaging with it and being mad? Even if you can't go outside without buttering up the door frame, you could at least spend time doing things that make you happy.
We're conplaining in the hopes GW listens to its paying and heretofore loyal customers. GW, heed the cry of the whale!
>GW goes on Ganker or the incel part of Twitter to make decisions
Lol
Lmao, even
The whales, GW. Listen to the whales
But the whales don't generate the income you think they do
They aren't good promoters of the hobby because they balls stank
That's what I heard from that painting phase video as well. I'm skeptical. The moms I've seen at the LGS dont buy more that the regulars do
Anon losers on Ganker who haven't bought a model in years aren't whales, moron
Well, in physical mass they are but not like you mean
And yet, you are here on Ganker. Feel free to leave any time if the company is not to your liking.
you arent the commissar of who can express what opinion. if people dont like something they are free to express their displeasure
you're obviously taking any criticism of this extremely personally for some bizarre reason
You can do whatever the frick you want. I'm also free to tell you you're a moron for just being mad all the time over nothingburger shit. Die mad tho
Yes it sounds like he is the one who is mad to the point of it being hazardous to his health
>REEEEEEE FEMALES IN MY GAME I WANT TO SUDOKU GW
>lolmad
>NO YOU'RE MADDDDDDD
Comedy
replying to yourself is sad, man.
Bro
you're the maddest one here brother. ill keep complaining
The only reason female Marines don't exist is because GW thinks it would kill Sororitas as a model line and they don't want to deal with the PR hassle of decomissioning the Sisters.
There were 8 years between the switch from metal to finecast and the release of the first plastic SoBs. They could've done it at any point in-between without much fuss
Yeah but during that time nobody cared.
That's like saying marines would kill guard. Sob are normie humans, fem marines are... marines. Sob would remain as guard is to marines.
Female Marines means female Black Templars, anon.
women don't generate sales. period. If they make a female custodes model, it won't sell, It happens every single time they put a woman on the cover of a video game. This is a non issue
>only women would ever be interested in buying female models
Are these "women" in the room with us now, anon?
who are you quoting? that's not what the post says
Told my dad about this, he's a big lore nerd. He's not happy and blamed amazon
>I love 40k
>so let me tell you why changing it so it no longer resembles 40k and why it should just be generic sci-fi slop.
You're a secondary at best.
It does seem like he only likes 40k while he loves the pain of others
he sounds like irl dark eldar
Are there marines fighting aliens and demons? Does life still suck for the regular humans? Are Necrons cool as shit? It's still 40k. Don't b***h about the details you whiny little b***hboy
See, the HH novels should never have happened because you get brainless secondaries like this guy.
this is not a "secondary", its a astroturfing, brigading troon who ravenously hops on every cultural touchstone moment to "own the chuds". The rat likely knows less about 40k than your parents.
>Nope. They weren't ever since Wardcrons were introduced
Come on, they've been developed well since those days, the Infinite and the Divine was a great book.
Bruh. SoS didn't exist in 40k until they were recently brought back by a Custodes(male) just prior to Guillimans return to Terra to meet emps.
sisters of silence, and blanks in general, use inhibitors most of the time when they aren't training or in active duty so they don't overly bother others. Despite that, the Black Ships require massive amounts of additional protective wards and panelling for astropaths+navigators to minimise the trauma they suffer piloting and operating on these vessels, and they die far quicker than anywhere else.
You're thinking of the blanks recruited by the black ships, which were funded and controlled by the Astropath Lord of Terra, SoS got btfo by paranoid superstitious lords of terra a few thousand years ago, accusing them of being heretics because "no souls lol".
>The blank marines do not exist because being blank fricks up marine superpowers, inherited from warp-infused Primarchs.
Yes you are correct here, but its far from the only reason. The game, Space Marine, the MC might be a minor league blank, it hasnt been addressed yet. Just as an example.
Black Ship shielding is to keep the cargo pacified and that is what fricks up the psychic crew as well. The only confirmed "blank" space marine is the Grey Knight ferryman from Emperor's Gift and he was a product of some special process, there was also a bunch of Sisters of Silence turned into psykers in a Horus Heresy short story so this can happen but it is not the standard design.
>Come on, they've been developed well since those days
Define "developed well". They stopped being relevant as representation of antithesis to Warp/Chaos, to the point they sabotaging themselves when they got some screentime (Pariah Nexus). Outside of Deadpool-level Trazyn they have no characters, no relevant/interesting narrative.
>Are there marines fighting aliens and demons?
Nope. Now it's Stormcast Eternals fighting demons
>Does life still suck for the regular humans?
Nope, because Imperium now space California
>Are Necrons cool as shit?
Nope. They weren't ever since Wardcrons were introduced
This is just morons who think custodes are space marines.
There are female votann models, female genestealer cultists, female eldar, female necrons, how can you give Custodes women and fricking morons STILL get mad thinking they are adeptus astartes? how much clearer does it need to be that they arent space marines than having a vegana?
Because consoomers listen to grifters Arch who literally has a video titled "GW put Female Space Marines into Custodes" up.
see
It would actually make MORE sense for there to be female space marines because they are essentially genetic children of the emperor. Custodes are built directly from the emperors DNA, they are almost clones with the emperors psychic ability removed.
Each custode is unique. They just dress and act the same
Each custode is unique only because the process doesn't produce the exact results every time. They use a combination of the emperors own DNA and warp alchemy to rebuild the subject on a cellular level to be more like the emperor.
Like goths
Custodes are remade at cellular level but not once anywhere was it mentioned Emperor's DNA is used in this process. Only Grey Knights have been suggested to have that. So this is not an excuse to have all-male custards.
>Custodes are remade at cellular level
>So this is not an excuse to have all-male custards.
Pick one
I don't have to, these are not mutually exclusive.
>I don't have to, these are not mutually exclusive.
It is.
If Emperor couldn't make gene-seed (mass product) work with XY and XX chromosomes simultaneously cellular alteration shouldn't work either
Changing the male zygotes coming from male primarchs to work on women =/= completely customized individual process. They're not comparable at all, and besides Malcador's quote about female primarchs suggests Emperor could have made them too if he wanted to.
>They're not comparable at all
Yeah, but the second is much complicated by the setting science standart, which means it cannot be scaled beyond capabilities of the first
The Space Marine process is the simplified one, not the precedent for Emperor's capabilities, and the one dependant on "genetic fathers", there's no reason for sex chromosomes to matter at all for the Custodes.
>The Space Marine process is the simplified one,
So if mass produced process isn't working with XY and XX then more complicated procedure shouldn't work either. Especially since gender inclusivity wasn't main purpose of the entire project
>yes yes everything other people like is bad
[citation needed]
The space marine process is specific because its actively taking men that match criteria to turn into inferior but mass produceable copies of a primarch. Thats why many physically change over the process to look like their primarch. its mass production models of a master proof, each specialised for function in certain environments e.g the Dusk Raiders dealing with trench warfare scenarios where chemical agents are involved. Thats why space marines are male.
Custodes are not space marines. No i dont care what youtuber told you they are space marines with the emperor as their primarch. They are no more space marines than a astropath is. They are genetically moulded but under different criteria under unknown means.
>Thats why many physically change over the process to look like their primarch.
Not canon anymore.
>Custodes are not space marines.
Yep, they are even more complicated product.
>not canon anymore
Black person little horus aximand had a figure reveal last week.
>Black person little horus aximand had a figure reveal last week.
And..?
you dont even know who that is do you?
>you dont even know who that is do you?
I know who we are talking about. But it proves nothing.
? Of course it's working with XY, it's keyed to XY and even called "seed" (meaning semen, in RT era it was more obviously "sperm") which means it won't work on XX. Custodes process has never been mentioned to involve and needs not involve sex chromosomes at all.
>Custodes process has never been mentioned to involve and needs not involve sex chromosomes at all.
Yeah but it's been mentioned to be even more complicated and nuanced than Space Marines, which means if the mass produced technology of Space Marines didn't worked on XX the Custard technology wouldn't work either on XX
That doesn't follow at all. Space Marines are designed to work on XY on purpose and they're continuations of the sperm-lines of Primarchs, which Emperor made all male because he wanted to (despite Malcador's wishes), it does not mean Custodes' creation process is restricted by sex chromosomes any more than a laboratory is restricted to experiments with the same specs the assembly line next door has.
>That doesn't follow at all.
It does. Because developing gene-alteration for both XX and XY chromosomes is more difficult by default and if it cannot be applied on relatively simple process (creation of Space Marines) it shouldn't be achievable for Custodes
XX can't be applied to the Space Marines because XY is a deliberate part of their process, deliberate meaning Emperor designed it that way. This does not restrict his ability to do otherwise in a much slower and more thorough process of creating a custodes which is not derived from Space Marine/Primarch projects.
It is mentioned in multiple places that they use the emperors own genetic material. Two seconds of internet searching would show you this.
>how much clearer does it need to be that they arent space marines than having a vegana?
Yeah they are supposed to be even complicated and nuanced product of gene-alteration. That's the point.
>Yeah they are supposed to be even more complicated and nuanced product of gene-alteration. That's the point.
fix
If you honestly gave a shit about giving women more attention, why don't you encourage Sisters of Silence or Sisters of Battle to get more development? Oh wait, you're a goon.
Been playing SoB since the 3rd edition Witchhunters codex kiddo. Your outrage griftlords telling you what to think weren't even alive back then.
The “there should be no female marines” argument has been going since the 90s, zoomlord
Custodes arent space marines.
wow, you spent like an hour+ doing research to cook up that cringe response so you could pretend to be a "legitimate fan" to score points. Man, you're fricking sad KEK.
When did you transistion?
you are both not smart enough, and lack the lore-knowledge, to sit here spouting disinenuous arguments about why femstodes are an okay change. Frick you, 40k is dead. We all know it now, its been officially confirmed, stop gaslighting your betters.
I am smarter than you and know more about the lore than you. Everything you know comes from some other moron from youtube, "gaslighting" is a word you learned from there too. Sit down, be humble and seethe at the female custodes and your betters here.
>know more about the lore than you.
Nothing to be proud of so we are clear
No. Sisters of Silence crew Black Ships with no issue and not even specialist marines who could be kept away from Astropaths are blanks. The blank marines do not exist because being blank fricks up marine superpowers, inherited from warp-infused Primarchs.
>They use a combination of the emperors own DNA
No.
I'M happy, but i'll only be truly happy if it means Space Marines can't have them, cus frick em.
This'll boost the hell out of Custodes sales if they just produced some lady heads and maybe a single model.
yes yes everything other people like is bad even if you havent read a word of it anon. We know. These books are entertainment, well, they're suppoed to be, Infinite and the Divine delivered.
Now, im all for shitting on any future books now that the entire setting is extremely suspect and contracting AIDS as we speak, but leave the good ones alone please. The old Star Wars books before Yidney had their moments too.
Malcadors comments were at an extremely early stage of the project, and would have required either a massive increase in time and effort to create them, or the emperor would have had to split up and divide the warp souls of the entities he was instilling in the primarch bodies, which would have dramatically weakened the individual power and abilities of each primarch, certain critical fights during the great crusade would have likely been lost to the imperium if this was the case.
Malcador had a point, but the emperor was right not to make them anyway. Such women could have caused all manner of hell and might have caused more issues than they solved.
God damnit, i spent all this time accumulating 40k lore knowledge and now its all worthless. I need a new hobby.
Malcador's comments were not really given a timeframe, if they were early it would have been easier to make female primarchs if anything.
i was reading between the lines there, if he said it after the fact, that would just be petulant of him. The whole point of him pressing the topic would be because the Emperor was at a stage where he could feasibly do it.
Could you imagine for example, Jaghatai Khan having a twin primarch sister, and the sister declares for Horus in the HH? he'd have to kill her, or maybe they'd kill each other etc. The primarchs were created with the full intention of making them "alone", so that they were far more likely to bond with the space marine legions and humanity.
Their individual 'hierarchy of needs' had to be supplied by mankind/imperium exclusively, not other primarchs/fem-marchs, or xeno races. Otherwise their loyalty would be minimal at best.
and you wonder why i never felt like i ought to get into the tabletop at any point in time ever. The books were more than enough for me kek. Get a 3D resin printer and go to town, why pay high prices for any reason?
>buy a 3d printer
>why pay high prices
The thing that lets you play warhammer is called having a friend (read: loose walleted moron) with a 3d printer, actually. thanks for becoming another leech magnet though sorry about the cancers you'll be getting down the road
Yep, remember - all minis are rules agnostic and all rules are minis agnostic. Have fun YOUR way
Tbh even tho it's Chudbait (some kind of gayness heatmap and muttering about Battletech in marketing maybe) I am less annoyed by LadyWarriors and more by dudes who all look like Hill Dwarves saying "it's ogre"
>you didn't care when they priced out people paying for their hobby with a paper run
>you didn't care when they more or less stopped playtesting their games, selling product they knew they were going to squat or change etc
Personally I hope it becomes Ballhammer 40,000 and you keep crying into your Black Rifle coffee because this whole thing became rushed and overpriced ages ago. The culture war layer doesn't even address how silly the state of this game has gotten and how itdesperately needs a real pruning and reboot but GW won't do the work.
>>you didn't care when they priced out people paying for their hobby with a paper run
>>you didn't care when they more or less stopped playtesting their games, selling product they knew they were going to squat or change etc
you are a subhuman Black person that is either trolling, in which case frick you, or are so incomprehensibly stupid that you think saying the exact opposite of what happened and is happening is the truth
literally every single person on /tg/ despises GW for their cancer and thinking otherwise can only be possible if you don't use /tg/ at all
>Yes that is a female custodes on the ground surrounded by Slaanesh demons and Orks.
Coomer diorama, disgusting rape is bad mkay.
I think this was obviously in the making for a while now, they've been trying to distance Custodes from Space Marines ever since they got their own army, like how they don't have gene seed, they're custom made, more individualistic, not just warriors, etc.
They barely appeared until like 10 years ago, once they started appearing more they were always coy about it. For example I'm pretty sure they almost always said they're recruited from the children of Terran nobles, not sons, that always felt deliberate to me.
You know I’m thinking about adapting the Kali Yuga but replacing xher with a femstodes and the chuds with iron warriors. I probably won’t ever do it since it would be just too fricked up.
Maybe there would be more women in the hobby, if you weren't all so sexist, huh? Equality is a good thing, that is a fact.
But women don't like wargaming.
Maybe because it is culturally known as a boys club?
There's plenty of girls that enjoy board games, including highly complex ones
Surely, there's a lot of overlap between the appeal of the two media.
I don't think women enjoy WARgaming the way men do. Board games and card games sure, but wargaming is on an entirely different level of sperginess.
But 40k isn't highly complex.
It's game mechanics are outdated and shit. It's a horrifically bad wargame. It's just expensive and has a Legion of sunk cost gays who will never move on.
Why would any woman who likes what you described what to play 40k
Time to move over to One Page Rules I guess.
You know Anon, you're right.
We shouldn't be encouraging girls to step into 40k, we should be encouraging 40kgays to play a better game.
It's never been more over.
https://twitter.com/warhammer/status/1779544596172689822
"Figures clustered around the craft’s landing legs, where the ship’s great metal claws gripped the radiation-soaked dust of the wasteland. These men and women were plated in the same gold as the ship, rendered upon their bodies with painstaking artistry. My father’s guardians, Sanguinius thought. And what a thought it was, not only that a being such as his father required guardians, but that he had a father at all."
From Echoes of Eternity by ADB. Already happened. And most likely it's not SoS because blank aura is not mentioned and it would be with Sanguinius who's wings are part of his psyker powers. And ADB has been someone who pushed for Femstodes for years and nothing in Custodes lore states it's impossible from woman to be Custodes, it was just been said up until now that only sons were chosen, but nothing on how the rules for how they are made or if the genetics play as much of a part in creation of Custodes as it does with Marines who are stated often to be impossible to be female because of genetic altering that comes with the geneseed.
Also ADB has been known for years trying to get Femstodes to be in Warhammer since Master of Mankind, but couldn't do it because kits were already made and now I guess GW will release more models so now they can fit in this idea which apparently they liked. So there you go.
I kneel, GW-sama
Almost makes me want to pick up a few sets for my old collection as a show of approval
>but of course like the good secondary I am I will never give you a cent.
Why don't you pick up a few for me then? I'd like a basislisk, maybe a couple of new Kasrkin squads?
I welcome our 9ft tall golden dommy mommy leaders
Female custodes look like *that*??
I suppose the genetically perfected milkers to provide protection for the lungs and the heart.
GW said they've always been there. End of story.
where are the models?
I dropped 40gay after the flanderisation of necrons so seeing them run the setting further into the dirt is really funny
Just so you know, this WILL lead to female marines
I've been expecting female space marines ever since they invented Primaris marines. They're just testing the waters with female Custodes first. They'll add female space marines next in time for the Henry Cavill show
Part of me wants to say that GW isn't brave/stupid enough to try that because someone must be aware that it will cause a catastrophic meltdown with their core customer base, but honestly I'm not so sure.
this is quite literally as close as they can possibly get without actually setting off the nuke. Admittedly if the reception is extremely bad then I can see them pulling back but I already see mass censorship on other forums
Fellas is it gay to like women
Ladies, is it wrong to love men?
>while i stop spending a dime on this now-trash product forever.
lets be honest, you either never will, or you never did in the first place. if you hadn't already quit due to the first time they bent the knee, absolutely no reason to think you'll quit after the second, or third, or fourth etc
The most stress-free position to take is to stop following modern 40k and just play older editions. I still buy models every so often, but only for units that existed back then and whenever there's some new controversy about lore or an ugly female/minority model I just shrug my shoulders and ignore it. If they sell models I like I'll buy them, if they don't then I won't. Simple as.
this is an overreaction
women were always space marines you chud