>Female Imperial Guardsmen have always existed
>Nobody has a problem with this despite it being even worse than a Custodes being a female
I don't get it, what's the issue here?
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>Female Imperial Guardsmen have always existed
Stop questioning the narrative and be upset, it's an election year.
Only for fatties.
>Imperial Guard uses everything, even children
>It's been canon for over a decade and a half that IG frick, have kids, and those kids are inducted as White Shields
>Vostrayan First Born talk about how female members are all volunteers and normal work support roles or as officers
>Valhallan Ice Fighters confirmed co-ed for over a decade
>Kreigers as well
>All the fricking is encouraged, because more man power is always useful, so IG frick like rabbits
Bad thread, please close and disregard, waste of dubs.
Then the females would be camp followers, not soldiers.
And you would?
>Then
No. You can try whatever justification but it won't work. You're just wrong and stupid and ugly. The lore covers this, the internal logic covers it, bar room math covers it. You just want to play moronic.
Oldhammer for sure. Camp followers stopped being a thing around napoleonic era.
When were kriegers confirmed to have women?
they werent
women on krieg are used purely as wombs to pop out new kriegers
There are female Kreigers?
My guard are all men.
It's simply cooler that way.
More meat for the meat grinder i guess
Female Guardsmen exist because when you ship out Guard to invade another planet they need women to breed with to establish the new population, and if you already got a bunch of women with you that will be slaughtered anyways if all the men die leaving then stranded on an alien planet with no protection, you might as well just give them guns too and let them contribute.
Even still, they aren't a regular thing. The fact that there can be female Guardsmen under some conditions doesn't mean they are standard practice and included in every regiment. There are plenty of male only regiments. It's just left up to the player to decide for themself.
>you might as well just give them guns too and let them contribute.
Except they would be liabilities, not contributors.
There's no such thing as a "liability" in a regime that places zero worth on a human life. They're extra warm bodies that can point a lasgun, that's all that matters. The Imperium literally uses child soldiers and cavemen with stone spears and suicide bombers and deranged drugged up schizofreakazoids and cyber-zombies and giant moronic mutant brutes with the mental capacity of a 4-year-old as soldiers, the word "liability" is not in their lexicon.
Literally in the old rulebooks you lorelet moron, look up white shield lore from RT era
Nice headcanon.
>proto-woke
>women being eaten alive, killed on mass, and burned alive for surviving is woke.
Actual mental illness. Suck start a shotgun.
>despite it being even worse than a Custodes being a female
Guard are regular baseline humans and are thus subject to the natural sexual dimorphism of the human body.
Custodes are remade at the cellular level. There is no reason why this process couldn't just completely remove sexual dimorphism in all the areas that matter (muscle mass, skeletal structure, hormones, etc).
>Guard are regular baseline humans and are thus subject to the meat grinder
If you're subjecting someone to a meat grinder you don't want half of your forces being liabilities
>If you're subjecting someone to a meat grinder you don't want to be half assed about it
>Send male and female regiment
>The females fall behind and the men stay behind to take care of them
>As a result none of them actually make it to the meat grinder
Really, that's just a reserve line working as intended.
>Send male and female regiment
>The females fall behind and the commisair shoots half
>As a result the other half are giving drugs as punishment
You don't know 40k, you don't have a point, so you don't get an explanation. Keep talking out of your ass.
>and the commisair shoots half
Not if he's a male
>Not if he's out of bolts, then he cuts them down.
>Reddit is indoctrinating you, as evidenced by them banning people from saying Black person
Insidious, truly.
>"No you don't understand anon, having the exact same opinion as all the updooted people on reddit and all the talking heads on tv makes me based!"
Adorable.
When those opinions are based? yes, it does. Keep up.
Ok Black person, whatever you say. Keep being cringe, all good.
>Nobody has a problem with this
Aliens did it so it's fine
Anyways rational people have a problem with custodes existing as an army. Exactly what the golden marine codex has inside it doesn't really matter.
I'll admit I find it pretty funny that people are planting their flags really hard on the franchise owned by the company that has demonstrated that they really don't mind fricking around with the lore and the themes of the setting if it makes them more money. tbf it's probably the only reason they haven't done it already, but it's like fighting to defend something that doesn't care to be defended. Pulling spoons out of the mouth of a big fat guy. He doesn't mind.
Now it's not like you can really find a perfect thing to defend. Auteur projects are subject to the whims of the creator so even a super die hard "this is my baby" thing can still be fricked with, and obviously "profits above all" are only on your side while you prove you have all the money. And it's not like things couldn't always just get bought out by disney or something.
I agree.
If the female custodes upset you then Warhammer is not for you. And I don't mean this in a shitposting way. The products are literally not aimed at you, you're no longe the target audience and probably haven't been for a while.
Remember when feminists screeched about sexism in video games?
It was moronic because video games were not made for them. So feminists were spending time looking at media that's not for them and then got upset.
You see the same happening on Ganker now. AAA slop games, most big Hollywood movies and the biggest /tg/companies are simply not for you and getting upset that the contents don't pander to you is as moronic as the feminists back then.
>but the feminists eventually won and now the media are woke!
ok. good luck in then. You will just keep looking at things not for you then get mad that they're not for you online and call it "culture war"
Okay nice opinion, now please return to the site with double spacing.
2011 Ganker? God I wish.
newbies are addicted to rage bait though.
>AAA slop games, most big hollywood movies and the biggest /tg/companies are simply not for you
their not for anyone else either.
That's reason to care even less about it then.
>Look, they're making stuff that no one wants!
>look, againy they made another thing that you dislike
>hey look, listen everyone, they released yet another thing that does isn't appealing to you!
It's been 10 years, anon. Why shoud I keep checking back and look?
>>but the feminists eventually won and now the media are woke!
>ok. good luck in then. You will just keep looking at things not for you then get mad that they're not for you online and call it "culture war"
It's odd to me that you can recognize that you're inhabiting a defeatist mindset and just accept that. So what's the endgame of all this? Just keep being pushed around forever because you're too stoic to put up a fuss while less stoic people invade and displace you?
~~*His*~~ goal is to demoralize you, simple as. ~~*He*~~ doesn't want you pushing back or making a stink because it might actually work. That's what ~~*he's*~~ really afraid of.
>yes I know I don't actually like the setting and I'm just here for the culture war but I get to dictate what TRVE FANDOM looks like!
Every time
Totally agreed. I only came back for ToW. GW, like Disney Star Wars and Amazon LotR just aren't creating things for me. I AM NOT their target audience. More ppl need to wake up to this.
>I only came back for ToW
>I only came back for the heckin wholesome and progressive gay ladyknights!
moron
Bretonnian core set is 1250pts worth army with zero female knights
Are you gay? Because you have a homosexual mentality.
If you push me I will push you harder,
That's how men work.
you talk about men pushing each other and call the other man gay. Interesting.
Anon, shitposting on /tg/ ain't pushing shit. It's the most imponent thing you can possibly do if you wanna participate in the "culture war" and it's all 40kgays ever do here.
There is no war because you aren't actually "fighting" and corposhit was never worth fighting for. None of this will ever lead to anything. If catering to wokes falls through the corpos might backtrack and return to the "good old days" you might celebrate, but you would've had zero influence over the process.
The only true way to "win" is to take what you like of your hobby and form a separate community disconnected from the ongoings of corposhit.
>decisions are made in the pursuit of consumer dollars
Yeah, no.
There's no pendulumn to swing back. Finance is king, so they'll do as Larry Fink and his ilk say until GW is an utterly useless husk. Wall St has proven they'll spend whatever it takes to win the culture war.
You're completely right that the only "solution" is to physically possess the books/models/etc and ignore everything outside your local scene. Never let banksters, or their cops, at your table.
But the miserable performance of literally every other medium proves that an increasingly smaller audience is actually consuming all the slop being cranked out. So who is it all actually for? I feel like GW are late to the party and are going to get caught on the back swing here
So wait, you actively admit that feminists did indeed screech hard and long enough to get something not made for them, to start being made for them, but think it's dumb to do the same thing or muster any kind of resistance to it? Doesn't that just mean you're going to play an endless game of ceding things you like to people that don't like it but want to change it?
Ok, Toadvine. But Reddit's issues are very different than them taking a policy towards racial pejorative and anti semitism that the entire internet outside of Ganker adopted before it even existed.
The Kid spat.
Because Games Workshop has a problem with putting heavy emphasis on the superhumans of the Imperium (See: Primarchs, Space Marines), and any female Custodes are just going to be eating the books that Sisters of Battle could have been in. Like, you know how long it took for them to get a model refresh? They can't take those Ls.
you're (deliberately) arguing on a false premise.
female fighters are not criticized because of real world logic but because of what the lore established.
Female IGs havevlong running roots in the lore and definitely weren't put in there to check some ESG boxes.
Female Space Marines however have been explicitly excluded by the lore before.
The difference is female custodes exist purely because someone in the head office wanted twitter points
their baseline humans, and thus can and should breed in the Emps vision. Same with SoB and, to a much lesser extent, SoS. Astartes and Custodes are not baseline humans, and are created as tools to serve humanity, not supplant it. Thus, the sex restriction.
I'm basing it on a statement GW released a while ago where they explicitly say that IT IS NOT FOR YOU.
Of course you can still consume it but that doesn't change the fact that they don't produce anything to appeal to you. If it happens to still appeal to you then it's by accident.
>it's a top down decision
Exactly what I am saying. The people producing the thing say that thing is not for you and make sure to not appeal to you. I don't know how it could be any clearer.
I will need a food analogy because otherwise you dense motherfrickers literally cannot grasp it:
If your favorite pizza place starts shitting on their pizzas to appeal to scat fetishists then you're the moron for still ordering there and then getting upset at the shit.
You still look at the menu every day just to get upset again for no reason. It's shit pizza now. If you don't like shit, why are you still looking at it??
>noo now they also pissed on my shit pizza >:[
And then you come along and say:
>yo dude the chef is israeli
as if that changes anything.
It does bring up the question of whether or not the pizza is Kosher.
It is not your job to give financial or marketing advice to these companies.
The only thing I strongly advise is just not engaging with it anymore.
>until they go back
Oh you're so naive.
There is no coming back. GW will be replaced by a competitor before it "goes back".
The Imperium is absolutely desperate and incompetent and callous enough to put women on the frontlines because they just need more manpower. In a very specific case, the Sisters of Battle were literally a legal necessary to exploit a loophole in ecclesiastic law so that they could form a paramilitary wing to parallel the other sectors of Imperial society.
The reason the Custodes thing is so fricking stupid is that it directly contradicts every other thing the Emperor has ever done. The Emperor is basically a god, he's a totally sexless being, he procreates through science, and he is literally from Kazakhstan. He would not have created female custodes and he is even less likely to have created female space marines.
What's funny is that if they had been smart about this they could have done one better and made literally everybody happy. Instead they just pissed off the people who didn't notice that they -4 Strengthed Custodes when they added women.
Nuh-uh, the Emperor made all male marines because he's a gayboy who's scared of girls
The issue is that you haven't killed yourself yet
How is it worse than a female custodes?
Guardsmen are just fodder for the meat grinder. Making a custard requires an insane amount of resources. Why would you waste those resources on a product that will always be inferior?
It would be literally better for the lore if they just said it was a trannie custodes who belives he's a woman.
>debating the practicality of women as soldiers in a setting where using piles of corpses as ramps into an enemy fortress is something that actually happened.
40kiddies just hate women, there's no reason to it.
Yeah and?
You sound like someone who still thinks regularly about his ex gf from 7 years ago.
Move on buddy.
It's the same thing that happens every time there's some major retcon or something gets a shitty adaptation that changes a bunch of shit for no reason. They always ask, "Why do you even care?".
>have always existed
The Emperor is just an ultra-high-IQ genius with psychic foresight and millennia of experience, who also specialized in human genetics - so he wouldn't want his personal bodyguards, the last line of defense, to have less potential muscle mass or aggressive instinct, testosterone, etc.
Femstodes being a thing is basically a NASA scientist eating Tide Pods.
Meant to reply to:
Janny gave me a timeout for being too truthful, and made me frick up my post.
>The Emperor is a politically incorrect high IQ autist
I agree with that interpretation of the character but chances are that they will change his personality to fit progressive politics
>why do you argue
Because I liked pizza on this joint and don't want to have shit in it.
But you don't get to decide that. It's also been several years now and since they added shit they also added rotten rats, asbestos and sand onto the pizza.
Maybe it's a lost cause?
Maybe the pizza dude really does not want to appeal to you?
>Maybe it's a lost cause?
Perhaps, but what if it isn't?
But you clearly do have a horse in the race because you're still here arguing a position. Publicly advocating apathy is a position in and of itself. And if you're advocating a position, you ought to consider who benefits from that position.
For clarity, I don't wish to attack apathy itself. I can't blame anyone for becoming disengaged and silently moving on. But at the same time I can't blame anyone for getting mad. Perhaps you're right that the best thing is for them to move on, but I think they have every right to cuss and slam the door on the their way out.
Well my horse is that I am seriously getting tired of the outrage. It's nothing new anymore and the butthurt floods my YT feed and Ganker. It was interesting a few years ago but why should I get upset now when GW, Disney or Ubisoft release some woke turd again? I haven't bought their products in almost a decade now and I don't understand how anyone can still be emotionally invested.
The ragebaiting around it is too annoying as well. The algorithms push that shit so hard and then people post about it here. I just don't think it's productive.
I'm just so tired of it
As long as archwarhammer, critical drinker, disparu, nedrotic and cohorts can generate clicks with it, it's never gonna stop.
the definition of impotent rage.
100%
The Joker can blow up a full city bus but he will NVER say Black person. Sick backwards society.
if she can point a gun at heretics and pull the trigger than she's good enough.
Who's "we?" Because I work at an airport and see female soldiers pretty often.
Those aren't real, they hire women to stand around in fatigues.
You realize that makes no sense, right? homosexuals are actually more into beefy, hairy men than straight women are. If anything, this should be pissing them off.
Because .?
Because they would have fewer men to stare at.
I mean, I assume. I'm not a man.
Quiet, homosexual
>deprive people of all alternatives
oh. i just thought the alternatives were killing themselves off because they sucked
good to know there was a reason
>Warmachine
>Alternative
Pick one
Does anyone has precise figures of how many women are put in fighting roles in western armies ?
The difference is:
>female Guardsmen have always existed since they appeared
>female Custodes is a new thing but GW is lying about it
It's not the females, it's the blatant lies that's the problem. I know you have to be an idiot to be a GW customer, but that doesn't mean it's nice to be treated like one.
actually in older editions the Guard and the Navy were both originally all-male
>The Schola Progenium is responsible for the care and education of orphans of Imperial servants. From the favoured sons of an Imperial Guard colonel to the children of a scribe posted to a distant world, the Schola Progenium cares for them all. Each diocese contains a number of Schola Progenium habitats where the orphans are gathered together. Headed by an Abbot, the Preachers of the habitat educate the young in a variety of studies, including religious education.By the time a Progena reaches early adolescence they will have displayed skills in a certain direction and their tutelage to the age of sixteen will focus on these talents and hone the pupil to a career in one of the Imperial organisations. Most of the Progena will end up in the Adeptus Terra as scribes, clerks or overseers. However, a few will be assigned to higher positions. Male Progena may become Commissars in the Imperial Guard, petty officers in the Imperial Navy or enter the priesthood itself and become a Preacher or Dean (a subordinate to a Deacon). Female Progena may well be entered into the Adepta Sororitas. Progena of both sexes may be recruited into the Inquisition or even the Officio Assassinorum. It is a great honour to pass through the Schola Progenium and those who do are well aware of their privilege.Codex: Sisters of Battle, 2nd Edition p. 33
Anon, this states that the favored sons of nobles were promoted to Commissars, and daughters who showed promise may become Sisters of Battle. In no way does this infer the entire Imperial Guard were originally all-male.
>Female Progena may well be entered into the Adepta Sororitas. Progena of both sexes may be recruited into the Inquisition or even the Officio Assassinorum
It implies that the only Imperial services which would accept females are those three otherwise they would have been mentioned to enroll in the Guard or the Navy. It's obvious for me that was the intent of the author
the commissars aren't part of the guard they are an attache of political officers outside of normal rank, just like actual soviet commissars you mouthbreathing moron.
guard conscription is handled on a per planet basis and is varied between all of them, hell the fact that Necromunda just scoops up the best gangers for the spiders proves you wrong if you weren't a nogames nomodels secondary who gets all his info from youtube you'd know that.
>The Schola Progenium is responsible for the care and education of orphans of Imperial servants
The Schola Progenium is our equivalent to west point you fricking moron not boot camp. Fricking lorelet.
Dumb mutt.
The SP is part boarding school, part boot camp
Because female imperial guard were never going to be an avenue to slow boil the fanbase into accepting female space marines. I personally don't give a frick about female space marines as a concept by itself, but the issue is that the vast majority of calls for female space marines doesn't come from a place of good faith but rather from people trying to force a fictional setting to comply with their political views.
GW never said there were no female guardsman. But you're being disingenuous OP, like everyone who shares your opinions.
See
Women are already in everyone's military
Women are physically incapable of taking geneseed from the emperor. Same reason they can't be space marines.
I assume you could adjust some of the physical modifications like a black carapace to a woman's specifications, but they wouldn't be a real marine lol
We get it dude, you just don't like women. Now, frick off, because some of us do.
>tfw no cute guardswoman gf to cuddle with before the next attack
Good. Women are gross.
>viral marketeer coomposter
you realize it only works when the female is attractive right? gw first has to make some coomer minis first before you can pull this card
>posts a disguised Jenova monster
Dude. No scar.
isnt her scar under her breasts?
if they had only announced busty gender bent custodes
Yeah worked so well with third edition of AoS which introduced female Sanguinius and female Archaon.
I'm being incredibly generous but could some moronic intern have confused Sisters of Silence for "female custodes"
custodes nuts
First female custodes is moronic retcon.
Seconds - baseline doesn't matter, what matter is top line, if top line is equal, then it's actually make more sense to take lesser baseline for better net-gain.
Forced drama from idiots who don't even play 40k but want to be mad at woke things and there's not many woke things to be mad at lately. Because in their obsession with seeing a woke agenda in everything they aren't keeping up with any new media and don't care that any of it is woke or not and don't even know either way. But they heard 40k is going woke and they really gotta try to pretend to care about 40k.
Sorry, the "it's not real" angle stopped working years ago.
regiments used to be divided by sex and a mixed one was unusual
everything that is happening now is a result of that change
Female guardsmen are fine because that's the Imperium harnessing raw numbers of people on a massive scale
Marines and Custodes meanwhile are incredibly rare warriors whose production are heavily bottlenecked by precious genetic resources and highly complex procedures, and so in the interest of making sure such investments aren't wasted it makes sense to only use them on the very best physical candidates possible, and that is always going to be men
If you have enough capacity to create big boys that you have lowered your standards enough for even the strongest females to become considerable, then you must already be accepting and transforming so many men that the super-elite/rare status must be completely undermined already
Marines were never recruited from "the very best physical candidates with ruthless pragmatism" or whatever excuse people come with to say there can't be female custodes, as if Imperium could into pragmatism anyway. Every chapter has their own tradition and Blood Angels in particular are made from miserable mutants who are inferior to Ultramarine or Salamander aspirants in pretty much everything.
The average marine recruiters are depicted as going to deathworlds and putting youths through brutal trials that most applicants don't survive
Yes, many do it but there are variations and every chapter does it out of some tradition related to their founding or primarchs, not to get the absolute strongest candidates. Blood Angels could recruit from much stronger candidates outside the rad-wastes of Baal like Flesh Tearers who recruit jungle fighters from a death world, but they recruit irradiated wretches because it's tradition. And the end result is not any different, BA marines are not weaker than their successors despite the mutated founding stock.
something tells me it isn't women who are demanding female space marines
In my country we had mandatory military service and we had a mixed platoon. it was just sex until they realised their mistake. the girls were usually groomed by upper echelons and higher ranking women usually fricked us.
Since the days of antiquity it was simply not common practice to have mixed units. This may have existed among particular tribes, for example there is some evidence to suggest that some women fought as horse-archers among some of the nomadic steppe tribes, however on a campaign the practicality starts to decrease. Especially if we are talking about things like female hygiene, sex, pregnancy, and so on. And if you think soldiers won't frick during a war which could see them deployed for potentially years on end, you're delusional.
I personally don't care because the only people who will actually waste money, going out of their way to buy this shit, are, as you say, vindictive people. And vindictive people are people who don't actually play the game.
Nothing sells out anymore though
There's a tonne of tards here who scream FLOP everytime now
Something I simply do not understand is why people demand science-fiction and fantasy to conform to 21st century ideological viewpoints. It's like these people want everything to be completely the same.
The thing is Custodes have barely existed mostly as background characters until about 5 years ago.
So people are getting butthurt about something that was largely ignored now having women in it?
>Should we start retconning commissars and the like, perhaps make the Guard a democratic institution with drum circles and the like? It's ridiculous.
this is unironically going to happen
People seem to want to self-insert into these things too much, and often try to argue morality about a science-fiction universe which is already cringe for me. In fact, the science-fiction we know best, like Brave New World, are often critiques about the direction of various technologies in the first place and not recommendations for an actual way of living.
Oh frick me the femstodes thing is true? Why? Isn't that the point of the Sisters of Silence? To have an elite women's only force to be the balance of the male only Custodes?
men and women showered together in Starship Troopers and it wasn't a big deal
>Emperors live fleshlight jannies
hecking based
People are blaming transgenders, they're blaming feminists -- the reality is it's just coomer-marketing. That's it. Coomers will buy the fat-assed Costodes models to jerk off over. You're reading too much into this. Coomers dominate the media market. Everything is hyper-sexual now, all media and vidya that wants to sell to the coomers offers this as a package. GW is just noticing that market trends favor coomerism. By 2040 we will be connected to 24/7 jerk-off AI simulations of reality fed constant pornography and dopamine surges of stimulation in our "free time", because during the day we will be wage-slaving to corporations.
There are no such models though
They just added one Custodes character, as they always do, its still a dude
There's going to be a ton of porn about it, as there always is.
What is this moronic argument about coomers I keep seeing? What coomers? The ones already looking at R63 of everything already? Coomers don't care if it's canon because they're already jacking it to porn of curvy Guilleman and a busty Lictor scissoring. There's already porn of Custodes and R63 porn of Custodes. This doesn't change anything for coomers or artists.
You're moronic.
>You're reading too much into this. Coomers dominate the media market. Everything is hyper-sexual now, all media and vidya that wants to sell to the coomers offers this as a package.
It's literally the opposite nowadays, we're losing sex appeal.
And you want to talk about market trends?
Why the frick didn't we get cat girl felinids?
Why don't we have well-endowed tau?
Why is Slanesh basically non-existent nowadays?
Because these are toys aimed primarily at kids. People who obsess over any of that shit are creeps that nobody wants to around.
Anon you're arguing a completely different point.
He's saying this is happening because of coomers, I'm telling him that is literally the opposite based on his reasoning.
>Because these are toys aimed primarily at kids
Not with James' pricing.
Some of you gays would jerk it to shit like this, I'm sure. Still, if you think GW puts out attractive women, you've got another thing coming.
>hardly any views on either channel
So how do irrelevant freaks like this have any sway over marketing for GW?
>Horus is now the good guy
>There are 55 primarchs
>Nurgle + Mothman gay sex scene
>no space ships
I can also just spew out diarrhea for no reason
Just going chud chud incel doesn't make pulling the rug out any less moronic, unless you're actively trying to destroy 40k which funnily enough there are a lot of people attempting
>t. a homosexual who weaker, slower and dumber than pretty much everything that exists and knows nothing about the world.
As I understand things Custodes are not made the same way as Space Marines and there is nothing in the lore that rules out Lady Custodes.
>As I understand things Custodes are not made the same way as Space Marines and there is nothing in the lore that rules out Lady Custodes.
Some of the recent codexes hinted that the process was more similar to Space Marines.
That said, it's ultimately a problem that GW themselves created, since most of the Custodes lore was rather outdated.
If they were smart, they would have done it while they were refreshing the range. Custodes are a glorified honor guard of immortals, but the Emperor isn't exactly the sort of person who needs a frickton of elite bodyguards. Having him turn people into Custodes as a way to make them immortal and preserve their knowledge would be an excellent way to excuse why he would use the procedure on both men and women. From there, the fact that it makes the women 10 foot tall amazon warriors would just be a side effect.
They could have even made a reveal that Custodes were simply made biologically immortal via the procedure, and that all of the extra height, muscle, and other enhancements was just the result of the best cybernetic enhancements in Imperial history. With again, the implication being that the Emperor didn't really care about having 10,000 perfect 100% ideal warriors, but rather wanted each Custodes for who they were as a human being.
The Imperium even know has ways of making some pretty nutty female warriors, so the space was there for it. It simply would have required the foresight to not try and market the Custodes as gold-marines++ in the newer codex releases. GW was lazy and didn't think it through, and now this comes across as a lazy poorly thought out retcon, rather than an interesting reveal.
I am guessing that someone at the top of the GW came up with the idea of woman Custodes at the last minute and the devs had no time to really work the idea
I did see someone suggest that somebody working on the Amazon show requested a female character in power armor and wasn't satisfied by SoB, so this was the only possible compromise since Custodes being all male was far less concrete of a lore aspect than Marines being all male.
And while there's 0 evidence for that, it feels shockingly plausible.
It's just frustrating because it seems like it would have been so easy to make it work if they hadn't already tried to make them all-male years ago. Like they had to go out of their way and explicitly add new lines about the sons of imperial nobles being selected, rather than just leaving the process of the creation vague.
Or again, just reworking the Custodes lore to make them a group intended primarily as advisors and confidants rather than super-duper marines. I don't think anyone would be surprised at the reveal of
>actually, the Emperor is strong enough that he doesn't really need bodyguards, so Custodes were usually selected for reasons other than combat skill, and calling them bodyguards was just to make the Emperor seem less godly
And then you have the perfect excuse for anyone the Emperor saw as worthy and loyal enough to be made immortal.
>somebody working on the Amazon show requested a female character in power armor and wasn't satisfied by SoB, so this was the only possible compromise since Custodes being all male was far less concrete of a lore aspect than Marines being all male.
They could not just make a new power armor group just for the show? They could be a small force that GW could use to sell stuff to 40k fans.
>It's just frustrating because it seems like it would have been so easy to make it work if they hadn't already tried to make them all-male years ago. Like they had to go out of their way and explicitly add new lines about the sons of imperial nobles being selected, rather than just leaving the process of the creation vague.
A huge problem that can pop up with IPs that go on for years and years is people could add something and not think that maybe it would be better to be vague or not even talked about at all because something outside the control of the guy after you may come up. Or someone just really wants something.
>They could not just make a new power armor group just for the show?
They could, but if it were something entirely new, then GW would need to make a brand new model for it as well, and it might not have the existing brand recognition. And it'd also require the Amazon writers to actually have some creativity.
Like I said, no evidence, but very plausible that everyone involved was that lazy.
>A huge problem that can pop up with IPs that go on for years and years is people could add something and not think that maybe it would be better to be vague or not even talked about at all
I always say that 40k would be better off if it leaned even harder into making everything extra vague and contradictory. Older editions of the game made it dubious as to whether or not the Emperor was even still alive or not.
But regardless, it's now a missed opportunity, and instead comes across as half-assed and lazy. Anyone who actually did want female custodes still aren't going to have female custodes models, because it wasn't an original part of the model range.
Things being vague and contradictory does make sense for the setting as the galaxy is a big place and travel is through the warp so getting accurate info about a place or person should be hard at least some of the time.
There is nothing wrong with female guardsman you fricking moron.
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Because Custodes and Marines are chivalric fraternities and orders of warrior-monks. They are "knights in shining armour" transplanted into an age of space rockets and ray guns, and the anachronism is entirely the point. Making them mixed might be more modern but it misunderstands and undermines an essential part of their distinctive character, and with it hollows out the unique qualities that make 40k more than just Generic Modern Military Sci-Fi. If we're down on the arc towards that, why spend thousands of dollars on expensive miniatures when I could get the exact same experience for a fiftieth of the price by booting up Halo?
>more than just Generic Modern Military Sci-Fi
Meanwhile we have armies perfectly suited for that. I Guard. You can make them any way you want and male or female.