>paying another $70 + DLC for actual slop
If you're subhuman enough to think that Rebirth is going to be anywhere approaching good (even compared to Remake) you need to re-evaluate the heuristic you use to determine what a good game is.
Cancel that pre-order and try not to be such a spineless FOMO-homosexual instead.
>you need to re-evaluate the heuristic you use to determine what a good game is.
Anon, there's people here that tell me Yakuza writing is good and that persona 5 deserved it's 95 score.
None of you have the right to say whatd good and what isn't. On top of that. Videogames are more complex to evaluate than simply story. Denying that makes you a slop eater by default.
Bad characters hamfisted like Makoto
Terrible dialogue that overstates everything thats happening both in conversations and phone
One of the worst "villain plan reveals" in the history of videogames (the talk between shido and akechi)
DLC story hamfisted at the end that just gets removed just like that
I haven't seen anything to tell me it's going to be garbage. Looks fun honestly. If they kill tifa or cloud or both I'll be pissed, but overall I doubt it'll be a trash fire, could be wrong, but haven't seen anything to indicate otherwise. I'm not paying 70 bucks for it, but I'll play it eventually.
I don't watch series that have not finished. I don't read books or comics that have not finished.
I don't understand why people are so into unfinished games.
Game of Thrones was the most popular when people were discussing it and waiting between episodes and seasons because anything could happen. This particular plague has taken hold of video games to the point where episodic gaming (at full fricking price, mind you) is going to devour the industry.
It has to be a multiverse to make sense. The future that results in Ultimecia can't exist after the events of FF8, which means she never existed at all in that universe.
But Zelda tower only reveal the map with zero point of interest marked.
The game even tell you to use the scope and mark anything interesting yourself.
>https://www.powerpyx.com/final-fantasy-7-vii-rebirth-trophy-list-revealed/
It's a trophy in the game that proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that the game ends with two or more worlds merging.
How much more confirmation than that do you need?
"Two Worlds" could be anything you moron
The world of the living and the world of the dead, for example
Calling everything multiverse just shows your capeshit influences
So you're just going to assume that the official trophy from the game i just flat-out lying to you? Or do you think the trophy is subverting your expectations?
Jesus, the state of you.
When Cloud yoinked Sephiroth into Mako pit, Sephy had just slashed Tifa. When Cloud survived the fall from Mako Reactor to Aerith's church, his main objective was to return to Tifa. When Cloud came to from being comatosed from 5 years of being in Hojo's tube in basement of Shinra Mansion it was because Tifa found him in train station. When Cloud survived the dip to Life Stream in Mideel it was because Tifa helped Cloud piece his memories back together. When Cloud failed Soldier exams, Cloud and Tifa were on exact opposite sides of the world.
What or who is the secret of Cloud managing all the super human feats?
Remake, Rebirth and Regenerated are all 100% canon as they are made by, directed by and written by the company and people who made the original. You can headcanon as much as you want but that doesn't really change the fact that all these 3 at LEAST are canon now.
If any elements from AC, DoC, First Soldier or any other sider-game makes it into those 3 then they're canon too. Deal with it.
>as they are made by, directed by and written by the company and people who made the original
I don't give a frick if this new shit is made by a bunch of washed up hacks trying to relive their glory days. It's not canon to me no matter how much they or shills like you insist so.
>I don't give a frick
Aaand back to the headcanon. Cope more. The actual canon is leaving you behind, homosexual.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Why are you so mad anyway?
Why does everyone have to like what you like?
3 months ago
Anonymous
I haven't talked about liking a god damn thing. But terms such as "canon" are not debatable. Only lefties redefine words to suit their own agendas.
3 months ago
Anonymous
I don't give a FRICK what is "canon" in the Compilation. The Compilation is not canon to the original as it exists outside the Compilation.
3 months ago
Anonymous
who cares what a bunch of hacks call canon
[...]
it's canon to compilation not the original
>The Compilation is not canon to the original as it exists outside the Compilation.
That isn't true. Everything that happens in the remakes are 100% canon to the original. You can be as mad as you want about it but that doesn't change fact.
3 months ago
Anonymous
nah the original game doesn't have any of the compilation/remake nonsense so your attempt to say otherwise if futile
3 months ago
Anonymous
>nah the original game doesn't have any of the compilation/remake nonsense
Except the characters, the setting, the world, the themes and a good chunk of the plot?
3 months ago
Anonymous
you know exactly what i meant you disingenuous tool
3 months ago
Anonymous
you're an absolute moron
Calling me names isn't convincing anyone.
3 months ago
Anonymous
you did a pretty good job of convincing people that you're moronic all by yourself
3 months ago
Anonymous
you're an absolute moron
3 months ago
Anonymous
see
just because some morons say it's canon doesn't make it so because the original exists with none of the compilation shit tainting it
3 months ago
Anonymous
Really got a death of the author gay here, huh?
3 months ago
Anonymous
you're an absolute moron
3 months ago
Anonymous
>it doesn't matter what the people who made both games said >I interpret it this way so that's how it is!
have a nice day.
3 months ago
Anonymous
i'm sorry you're incapable of critical thinking
3 months ago
Anonymous
yes that's how it is TO ME
do you fricking understand yet
you dense mongoloid wienersucker
im not saying it isn't canon, I'm saying it isn't canon to me personally
and you go offended over this because you're an overly defensive fanboy
3 months ago
Anonymous
stop giving that moron (You)s
people who pre-order games are basically paid shills as they're financially invested
3 months ago
Anonymous
so fricking true actually
3 months ago
Anonymous
>financially invested
That implies a return on investment doesn't it? They're motivated to shill, but they can't make money from it and thus isn't not a financial investment. Although I do get your point and realize as I'm typing this that I'm being pedantic.
3 months ago
Anonymous
they are paid with the promise of a good product and anyone who dares say the product might not be good will be attacked relentlessly
this thread is proof of this happening
3 months ago
Anonymous
Hmm, yeah you got me there. There's a lot of weird cope ITT.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Remake fanboys are the worst group in the FF fanbase at the moment. Even more-so than the MMO cultists, because at least they can admit 14 is going down the toilet.
3 months ago
Anonymous
it reminds me of the jayrpg review of remake before it dropped titled something like "midgar-only was a mistake" where he called it a padded borefest with nothing but empty talk corridors and padded out levels
he was absolutely right but fan boys went ballistic saying he's biased etc etc when they themselves haven't even played the game
needless to say more and more people agreed with his video after the game dropped
hype is a fork of hysteria imo
3 months ago
Anonymous
yeah it was this one
his negativity triggered the mindless consoomers
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imo the review is absolutely spot-on
3 months ago
Anonymous
also this seems about right
remake was very divisive
3 months ago
Anonymous
>remake was very divisive
lol do you actually think this?
We're in a thread with 40 posters, doomposting over a simple word in a chapter list leak.
You are not part of a majority kek.
3 months ago
Anonymous
what the frick are you talking about
3 months ago
Anonymous
he thinks you're attacking his precious game
3 months ago
Anonymous
he thinks you're attacking his precious game
Remember now, Ganker is not the majority opinion.
3 months ago
Anonymous
never said it was.
this remake was still divisive.
stop getting offended over everything.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>this remake was still divisive. >because I said so
lol
lmao even.
3 months ago
Anonymous
nta but even the devs said it would divide the fambase
3 months ago
Anonymous
Keyword being WAS. Very positive rating, 87%, 3% from overwhelmingly positive based on 18252 reviews from people who own the game on Steam, 8.1 based on 8350 ratings in spite of review bombing on Metacritic, which requires no proof of purchase or experience with the game.
Our cope, sisters?
3 months ago
Anonymous
even the devs said it's a divisive game
3 months ago
Anonymous
nta but even the devs said it would divide the fambase
>just trust me bro
ok
3 months ago
Anonymous
>lol do you actually think this
do you think EVERYONE loved remake?
i know you're in a delusional little bubble but the like/dislike ratio on that video just proves the point
this isn't fricking reddit homosexual
negative opinions are allowed
3 months ago
Anonymous
>like/dislike ratio on a youtube video is what I'm basing my entire being on!
holy lmao you are so desperate for someone to take your narrative seriously.
3 months ago
Anonymous
nta but I'm sure the irony here is lost on you
you didn't answer his question
do you honestly think every single person who played Remake loved it as much as you did?
3 months ago
Anonymous
he is a blind fanboy so yes he does believe that
3 months ago
Anonymous
he is a blind fanboy so yes he does believe that
>a few people didn't like Remake >That must mean it was divisive! Check out this youtube video that proves it!
Remember you two, Ganker is not big part of the overall opinion of a videogame.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>a few people
now who is coping
3 months ago
Anonymous
>54 people out of 7 million people who bought the game
you tell me.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>hurr durr your numbers are made up >mine totally aren't by the way haha
3 months ago
Anonymous
stop giving the moron (You)s
3 months ago
Anonymous
no tho it's funny
he is delusional
3 months ago
Anonymous
stop giving the moron (You)s
no tho it's funny
he is delusional
The truly funny thing is you morons actually thinking your opinions speak for a large portion of the wider audience.
Despite the numerous GOTY awards, the fan reception
Keyword being WAS. Very positive rating, 87%, 3% from overwhelmingly positive based on 18252 reviews from people who own the game on Steam, 8.1 based on 8350 ratings in spite of review bombing on Metacritic, which requires no proof of purchase or experience with the game.
Our cope, sisters?
, it selling an additional 4 million after launch, and rebirth being hyped.
You stupid morons actually believe remake was this was a heavily divisive game.
Do you idiots even know what divisive means kek
3 months ago
Anonymous
I genuinely believe you don't know what divisive means.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>No you
wew that's all I needed to see.
3 months ago
Anonymous
The vocal minority's autistic screeching doesn't mean the game was divisive. But enough about Barry.
3 months ago
Anonymous
nobody implied it was "heavily" divisive
3 months ago
Anonymous
he had to exaggerate it to make himself look right
no matter what he says it would have still been very divisive for fans of the original
3 months ago
Anonymous
the devs even said so
3 months ago
Anonymous
>he had to exaggerate it to make himself look right
Remember, the only evidence anon posted was a youtube dislike ratio. That's the only thing proof he had saying the game was divisive.
3 months ago
Anonymous
again do you honestly believe every single person who played the original loves remake
3 months ago
Anonymous
Black person you are talking to a delusional fanboy who thinks everyone loved the game so stop
3 months ago
Anonymous
>every single person >"he had to exaggerate it to make himself look right"
ironic ain't it.
3 months ago
Anonymous
The divisiveness isn't represented anywhere on the internet, thoughever. Highly rated by fans on Metacritic, PSN, Steam, Epic Games Store, you name it. >y-yeah but the people who don't like it didn't even play it or aren't vocal about it s-s-so...
3 months ago
Anonymous
what does any of this have to do with the fact it would've split the fans of the original
i played it as a kid in 97 and like remake and i know plenty of people who did the same and hate remake and compilation stuff
you cannot possibly think that every single person who played the original as a youngen loved remake
3 months ago
Anonymous
good job ignoring the rest of my post and taking what I said completely out of context
3 months ago
Anonymous
>Call something a remake >People expect some minor changes but overall the same product >It goes completely off the rails into doing its own thing
You're genuinely mentally challenged if you can't figure out how the Remake was divisive.
3 months ago
Anonymous
I disagree with him because yeah, Midgar is hallway simulator, so what?
We will get "muh open world" later in part 2 anyway. >inb4 you're paying extra for padded content
Fine by me.
3 months ago
Anonymous
3 months ago
Anonymous
>im not saying it isn't canon, I'm saying it isn't canon to me personally
So headcanon. Official canon does not agree with you, and that's the one everyone else will be following going forward.
3 months ago
Anonymous
who cares what a bunch of hacks call canon
You can call it hyper-shit if you want, even point out a billion criticisms (it's not hard), but you don't get to redefine what is and what isn't canon when the original creator has made something new.
The Hobbit movies are still canon even if they're worse than Lord of the Rings.
it's canon to compilation not the original
3 months ago
Anonymous
>NOOO IT'S CANON BECAUSE CORPORATION TOLD ME SO >REEEEEEE STOP THINKING CRITICALLY
3 months ago
Anonymous
You can call it hyper-shit if you want, even point out a billion criticisms (it's not hard), but you don't get to redefine what is and what isn't canon when the original creator has made something new.
The Hobbit movies are still canon even if they're worse than Lord of the Rings.
3 months ago
Anonymous
They aren't the books, they aren't canon
3 months ago
Anonymous
I didn't say they were canon to the books I said they were canon to the movies.
How is that different? If there exists timelines to travel to and live out instead of your own, does it really fricking matter if it's called multiverse or timeline-travel?
It's the same shit anyway: >minor/major changes to reality you can move between
>2
Who said we need to stop at 2? Give me an Kingdom Hearts Sephiroth fighting OG Sephiroth fighting gacha Sephiroth fighting Kingdom Hearts 2 Sephiroth fighting CC Sephiroth fighting AC Sephiroth. Let's go full moron.
yes because this is exactly what FF7 needed
nojima is an absolute fricking hack and so are the rest of the washed up 50something behind this embarrassing attempt at being creative
Square has fallen into the trap of chasing trends. When they were developing 7R this sort of shit was still popular with Avenger (don't ask me why, I never understood capeshit). Same with Game of Thrones still being at its height when FF16 was being developed. But by the time these games come out of their dev hell of 7-8 years those concepts/themes are long oversaturated and dried up in the entertainment sphere.
It is never good. It is impossible to build stakes in any story if any loss, even a galactic loss, is still just one out of an infinite number. If my entire universe is destroyed by Giga-Sephiroth, it doesn't matter if I can just go to the exact same universe with one grain of sand placed differently and literally nothing else is changed.
It is impossible to do multiverse well, because even if you limit it heavily, as long as it is at all possible there exists no reason for the characters to EVER not be striving for that goal. Once multiverse travel is unlocked literally all problems just go away and so do all stakes and all tension.
Because as far as we know multiverse doesn't exist? Trust me, the second someone comes along and SOMEHOW confirms multiverses to be a thing and that moving between them is possible literally every resource is going to be put towards achieving it.
>it doesn't matter if I can just go to the exact same universe with one grain of sand placed differently and literally nothing else is changed.
What a moronic statement, the existence of another universe doesn't imply nothing matters.
Whats next? Nothing matters in legacy of Kain? Nothing matters in Chrono cross? Does nothing matters in Chrono trigger? It's not that simple, there's rules to everything. Most of this plots have consequences to exploit all of this
3 months ago
Anonymous
If it has multiverse then stakes literally don't matter. Nothing matters because if there's an infinite amount of You, there's an infinite amount of Crono, Serge, Raziel and whoever you want with a pigment of skin 1% brighter than another and nothing else different about them. If Cloud dies in Rebirth, but multiverse is a thing, then they can just pop right over and grab another Cloud. And they can do this forever. So can Sephiroth, they can fight for all eternity and it would literally never stop because they'd never run out.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>then they can just pop right over and grab another Cloud.
And how would they achieve this
3 months ago
Anonymous
The same way Sephiroth managed it? If he can do it then they can. If they physically can't because Sephiroth is special, then another Sephiroth from another universe can pop over to theirs and help them. Because there will exist a Sephiroth that can do and is chill enough about it to help them and because there's infinite possibilities.
Do you see the problem here?
There is no decision SE can make that is moronic enough that I or anyone else online can't explain this way because there is no putting this genie back in the bottle when it's out.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>The same way Sephiroth managed it? If he can do it then they can >anon starts introducing headcanon for his scenario to start making sense >he cannot explain his thinking further with any actual evidence, so he will just whine for the rest of the thread.
Oh ok.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Not the same anon, but you are fricking rertarded
3 months ago
Anonymous
>Instead of proving his claim with anything form the game, attacks the poster instead
Ok.
The last game was literally about time being fricked up and the story not properly following what it should. It was broken beyond repair from the start and this is what everyone was saying at the time.
Because morons like you don't comprehend that people usually like or dislike games as a whole package, not because it has one specific trait X that you have for some reason developed a phobia for.
People like you can only "evaluate" a game based on how many traits it shares with other games you played. I wonder why? Perhaps you have some sort of mental impairment that makes you unable to develop proper critical thinking skills.
When the major complains about a game are just "It has X like this other game, and that game was bad, so this game must also be bad!" and nothing negative is being mentioned about it on its own merits, then that is usually a good sign that the game will probably come out great.
The only actual legit criticism about the battle system I have ever seen is that the the stagger bar resets during phase transitions of boss battles. Everything else is usually just "it's bad because it's not turn based!" which is just the critic's personal preference. That or it's just "the battle system is bad!" without specifying what about is bad.
Other than that even those who say they dislike the story for one reason or another usually say that they do like the hybrid battle system.
As for the Story, again, people can't point to actual flaws of the story just some surface-level comparison to other stories. 99% is just that it "feels" like KH or "feels" like capeshit to them. That's usually a sign that the person in question never even tried paying attention to the story.
For many it's just a kind of cope because they are in actuality ultra curious about how it continues but they don't want to admit that they were hooked so they react with such shallow comparisons instead.
There is one legit criticism of the combat. Other than that, disliking it is objectively wrong and proves you wanted turn based.
Nobody who says bad things about the game can explain WHY they're bad, which proves it's objectively good.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>Most people in thread who complained said the system would be better if it leaned more into being action >"Uhhhhh saying it's bad just means you want turn based!!"
Dumbass Black person
>IT'S CANON BECAUSE THE DEVS SAID SO >well it's not canon to as the men who made this are not the same as the people who made the original because they are just husks of their former selves with nojima especially going off the deep end after his KH stint >REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE YOU CAN'T THINK THAT STOP THINKING FOR YOURSELF AND OBEY
Where did I say I didn't like them?
I just said they're not at the top of their game as they used to be decades ago.
You are such a corporate bootlicker, it's fricking embarrassing.
Unless Advent Children is just in a different world/timeline/dimension/whatever. That way they can do whatever they want and just say that AC-Cloud is on homosexualworld 8293.
No FRICKING shit, moron. Did you not play FF7 REMAKE? Lmao. You people are so fricking braindead, it's shocking you're even able to use the internet and navigate to Ganker.
You are lying, there is no way someone pre-ordered FF7r2 without knowing the story was likely going to suck.
I'm actually excited for the game because the first remake was fun. But the story for these remakes are moronic, anyone who played the first knows this.
why is everyone acting like there was some big info drop from state of play when all they did was announce an announcement?
holy frick you people are obsessed
But you are participating in discussion of Rebirth and instead of filling yourself in what everyone currently knows about it, you are asking others to spoon-feed you
3 months ago
Anonymous
>no, you can't join FF7 discussions if you didn't watched the trailer
okay.
can't say for sure right now but or he just don't know they're alive since they left midgar or it's some random timeline where everyone except for him died at the plate.
this is false, jessies gloves were on the table (would have been crushed and nothing left if she died in the tower. again.)
wedge is unconfirmed. but I somehow doubt the guy who gave us the LUCK Materia died offscreen to fricking time ghosts.
I liked Remake, but you'd have to be a moron to not think it was pretty divisive. It's a risk they took, and it paid off. The person saying it wasn't is simply in complete denial and truly believes every single person loved it. Pure fanboy brainrot.
>It's a risk they took, and it paid off.
Why do you morons keep saying this when we haven't EVEN FRICKING SEEN THE PAYOFF
Jesus Christ go drink a bottle of bleach you dumb frick.
>"It sold well because of the changes it was so brave to make!" >Even though most of the marketing didn't highlight said changes, the most was seeing Barrett get stabbed by Sephiroth in the launch trailer
Remake didn't sell well because people were excited about changes to the narrative, it sold well because normalgays wanted to gobble up a remake of game they loved as a kid.
And yeah Rebirth is also my most anticipated game, mainly because I want to see the train wreck and laugh at it.
>Even though most of the marketing didn't highlight said changes, the most was seeing Barrett get stabbed by Sephiroth in the launch trailer
They showed the jannies in the trailers
Anyone who was happy with the story in remake was going to be happy with whatever they got, and they will continue to convince themselves it's all kino no matter how bad things get
>time travel >multiverses >when the original FF7 had nothing of the fricking sort
Extremely fricking cringe and embarrassing. Kitase and Nomura are washed the frick up.
Everyone who complained about time travel is going to feel like such an idiot when they find out it wasn't time travel, but actually non-synchronous parallel worlds that all follow the same timeaxis and takes place after the end of the OG
Define remake
Define a lot
Define heavily
Define canon
Define every single word you say until you regret daring to say something pessimistic or critical of remake
I didn't like Remake because I don't like the way combat works. It feels like I'm doing weak as frick damage the entire time until I stagger the enemy, then they just get deleted, so most of the time it doesn't feel good to swing the buster sword or punch shit as Tifa. From what I've seen of 16 it has the opposite problem where everything is piss easy and the devs aren't going to do anything to change that.
No, every FF is its own thing, the popular ones sometimes get more games related to it. All you really need to play is the original and probably watch Advant Children. Crisis Core unless you want to know more about Zack you can just read up on, and just read up on Dirge of Cerberus because it's a shit game.
>zack lives is a different timeline than remake is a different timeline than OG
zack goes to the church from remake timeline in yuffies dlc ending. you're all wrong and basing it on a CRISP PACKET
Zack didnt survive in Remake time line. He is only shown surviving after the party defeated the time jannies. He goes to the church and sees the news about Avalanche dying and Aerith not found
7's world is fine and imo one of the more interesting FF settings, it's just Nomura is a fricking hack and needs to infest everything he works on with Kingdom Heartsism
FF7's world is like 3 poor bumfrick villages and Midgar, there's barely any history or thought put into it.
SE went for parallel universes because they knew there was nothing to work with.
Why do remakegays always try and belittle and downplay the original games? They always try and convince you the original was shit and that's why you should play the remake.
7's world is fine and imo one of the more interesting FF settings, it's just Nomura is a fricking hack and needs to infest everything he works on with Kingdom Heartsism
Why are Remake fans so overly fricking defensive? I used to think the "no criticism allowed" pics were a joke, but it seems whoever made it was dead serious.
I liked Remake though, but I can admit it had a few glaring flaws. It seems you aren't allowed to criticize it at all in these threads. You are obsessed with being overly defensive because you've probably made it you entire identity.
Who are you to say he didn't on this anonymous board? Have you read the thread? Get some self-awareness. You gays are criticizing just as aggressively as people are defending it.
>you are being aggressive
No, I'm not. You're outright ignoring the posts calling you out on the supposed divisiveness of the game and crying about people "aggressively defending" the game. It's sad.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Black person even the devs said the decision to diverge from a 1:1 remake would split the fambase
3 months ago
Anonymous
don't fricking bother man
this guy believes everybody on the planet loved the game
The biggest red flag for the story of this game was the Devs saying "we didn't spend time on fleshing out Sephiroth because everyone knows who he is".
Yeah people know who Sephiroth is, but unless you've played 7 (and when you market yourself as a remake some people will just go to the remake) you don't actually know what his deal is other then "he's... le bad"
>we didn't spend time on fleshing out Sephiroth because everyone knows who he is".
They literally said the contrary
There's gonna be far more sephiroth fleshing out
They said that they were gonna change sephiroth approach and not let him be so cryptic and hidden for 80% of the game
nta but because I thought it was gonna be OG so I didn't have to engage with that outdated shit from 1997. I still had to go back and play through FF7 because I had no idea what was going on in the """remake""". Frick Squeenix.
just frick off - it's evident you are incapable of critical thought because you've made this game your fricking identity and any tiny spec of criticism is taken like a personal attack to you
I remember going up to launch of FF7Remake, people were taking the piss out of Time Jannies and purists were saying they were never gonna touch the rest of the trilogy again.
How come there's vocal support for Rebirth now?
Is it time to finally admit Square Enix and Sony hire pay shills on Ganker to continue to drum up hype for Final Fantasy?
There's like 5 insane Square Enix fans rotating 24/7 on Ganker. They make constant threads about the last 4 FF games pretending they aren't irrelevant trash forgotten by normal people. They also treat the game producers as if they were their idols. It's beyond pathetic
i can understand shitposters and doomposters taking the piss to get a rise out of people, but I'll never understand people who will actually take them seriously and get furious defending a product they haven't even experienced yet.
It's simple. Most people who behave like that have pre-ordered the game. They're basically shareholders. They have money riding on it being good as they've given the company a loan.
>So I'm getting a shit death where I just sit on a bench defeated while under control of Brainiac and Harley just shoots me in the head >Okay cool!
Yeah I'm sure Kevin totally was okay with it.
To be fair no one knows the nature of these worlds. One of the most popular theories i see being repeated is how Zack's world is a type of lifestream world. So saying people knew it was always a multiverse is a weird statement
We knew because in the ending of Remake after the time jannies were defeated the Zack section shows different mascot dog. Why point out the different dog if it didnt mean anything?
Because it could be just a narrative tool to point out how they're not in the same "space"
As example, in a logic way why the frick the jannies would change the logo of STAMP? Stamp just seems like a hint of what could be happening.
Regardless of what kind of world it is, narratively there's no reason to introduce it unless the worlds interact. So this merging of worlds comes as zero surprise.
I know a few were thinking it was showing a "what if" scenario, maybe those will cope with this for a bit.
Yes. It was always clear how these worlds would interact, but there is a big difference if that other world is an actual world. Because it means people would literally jump between them, and if it was a type of lifestream dimension we would see just info being transmitted.
True, in theory the way in which they interact will depend on its nature. But that's not how I see SE play this out, they tend to lean into the fanservicy stuff, so that would mean Zack becoming part of the main thing, even if only for a while, seem very likely.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Yes. We know there will be a "confluence", the question is how this confluence will happen. Will people have memories transplanted? Jump between worlds? or Zack and Genesis will jump from portals like a mcu movie? These are the big questions
3 months ago
Anonymous
the worlds become one reality, so characters are all back in the same place
if they just talk to each other or get memories planted over that's kind of boring no?
would that really make it worthwhile to introduce a concept like this
3 months ago
Anonymous
My issue with that Zack world being an actual world is because it undoes his death and i think this is absolute garbage. I hate when stories do that. So i would rather have him helping them through some type of lifestream dimension than actually just coming back from death without any issues.
And i dont think it would be boring, depending on how they structure his world, as a type of world of ruin, could be interesting even if it isnt an actual world.
3 months ago
Anonymous
I wouldn't necessarily like it either but at the same time it's hard to envision it not happening. It seems to be part of Sephiroth's plan so as the party goes against that eventually the merge could be undone and those who are supposed to be dead return to the lifestream in the end.
3 months ago
Anonymous
I also keep thinking how the timeline of Zack's world doesnt make any sense.The fact he arrives in midgar after the end of remake is really strange. It doesnt fit at all.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>I also keep thinking how the timeline of Zack's world doesnt make any sense.The fact he arrives in midgar after the end of remake is really strange. It doesnt fit at all.
He arrives at least one month later than a catatonic Cloud in midgar, while Cloud was also the one carrying the buster sword. Weird.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Shouldn't he arrive a few weeks before platefall, kinda like OG Cloud did? It's weird that he arrived after it happened
3 months ago
Anonymous
Yes, Cloud arrives weeks before FF7 starts, and then the whole game happens. Zack arrived even later than all these events? It doesnt fit.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>Shouldn't he arrive a few weeks before platefall, kinda like OG Cloud did? It's weird that he arrived after it happened
Zack in rebith isnt even arriving after the platefall, but after midgar is destroyed in the last fight against sephiroth. So after remake ends.
Do you really have to post this shit as an OP pic you piece of shit butthole?
Can't you just post a normal Rebirth OP pic and keep the fricking spoilers to the inside of the thread? Huh? No? You just have to be that fricking guy.
Look Ma I post them spoilers on Ganker am I cool or what!
Well alright then, farewell Ganker I guess I was a fool to trust you fricks would have at least an ounce of integrity. I needed a break from this fricking place anyway.
See you in March. But not you OP. You can go burn in hell.
>Deliberately put eye-catching achievements so that fans can get hype and generate discussions >deliberately made every trailer have a unique scene with Aerith or Tifa to keep shippergays on the edge of their seats >deliberately made FF7R a "re-imagining" remake that is not exactly the same as the original so that it makes the game feel fresh and exciting to wait for
Those little things...
Those little things are the touch of a Maestro...
One of the things I like about Nomura is he got all those little things right...
Use Steal. You can get good items from Eligor in train graveyard, Soldier enemies in Shinra HQ, Sweepers outside Midgar. Also you can Steal Ethers from the small dragons in Train Graveyard to get easy money. Enemy Skills are OP. Check wiki what enemies to get Enemy Skills from
>could have expanded on Jenova and the fact she is a FRICKING ALIEN >nope we're gonna time travel and multiverse fart sephiroth is a dimensional time god fart
I honestly will never understand why people praise Remake's combat. It's a confused mess that doesn't know what it wants to be. It's fricking frustrating because it makes you want more shortcuts so it can be a decent action game, but you're forced into this psuedo-ATB system where you have to keep pausing the combat to go through a menu.
Precisely this. You can tell they weren't actually sure what to do for it, so the gameplay just kind of limps along. Piss easy and not fun to really engage with at all.
What's weird is that I'm seeing a lot of the same cope that was present in XVI threads up to release. Which is wild, it feels like history is repeating itself.
>You dont even need to have "AAA", just say positive thread for any game.
The only way to have positive threads not filled with terrible discourse is if your franchise is kinda niche.
Kys barry. I will enjoy all FF with YoshiP chads and Nomura chads.
Sequels always do a little worse so sales don't even matter + everything is digital now anyway.
Just wait til PC launch and you'll look moronic cus I'm not buying a PS5 for this, but I see a lot of people did.
Final Fantasy VII Rebirth will have “a lot more” of Tifa’s backstory
by Adam Cook on February 5, 2024
Final Fantasy VII Rebirth
Over on the official Square Enix site, an interview with Final Fantasy VII Rebirth actor Britt Baron, who plays Tifa has been published.
Baron plays Tifa Lockheart and when asked about her message to upcoming fans of Final Fantasy VII Rebirth, said: “My message to fans is… oh god, how much can I spoil? Ok, my message to fans is to be excited, be open-minded because I think we have some really fun surprises, and I think we also have some awesome fan service that will make everyone happy. I’m hoping, knock on wood (taps her own head)”. Baron added, “Let’s not jinx anything, but I’m really proud. I think it’s a really exciting new chapter and we’ve really expanded this world”.
*done this
It's a lot isn't it?
You'd fall into an autism coma if you saw someone say they thought it was mediocre without "correcting" them to say it was good
More importantly I think the pacing will be much improved. Midgar was a slog, turning 2 screen sections into 1 hour dungeons with nothing interesting in them.
>FFX
The entire X franchise (8 for X, 6 for x-2, 6+ for the remaster collection) sold over 20 million.
FF7 and Remake themselves sold 21 million together.
>death is inglorious and shitty and cannot be undone >jk, there's an alternative dimension were every best case wish fulfilment scenario played out and nobody died
lol, lmao
>alternative dimension were every best case wish fulfilment scenario played out and nobody died >the one they have shown is just zack and biggs being alive while everyone else is dead
we need to find another one.
You're all just gonna keep sucking it off until it's out. Then you'll start pointing out it's flaws and how it ruined Final Fantasy and then you'll be sucking it off again once REintroduction is announced in 3 years. Then when that's out you'll say the remake trilogy killed the franchise like the Compilation did, before you suck it off when the next member-berries Final Fantasy 7 project launches.
>Look I added noctis to kh3
Do you mean Yozora? or do you mean Sora? or Roxas? You need to be more specific, Nomura is known for his unique designs, I understand that it can be a challenge for people who are not his fan
My hype for rebirth was killed by remake fans. I have never let a fanbase effect my enjoyment before, but they're so fricking moronic and obnoxious that I asked myself if this is really the kind of game I want to play and discuss online. It's like the sonic fandom but worse. It's like the rick and morty fandom but worse. I've never seen anything quite like it. The gulf between the games quality and the obsessive overdefensive fanaticism of the fanbase is astonishing. It's like a fanbase made up completely of Barrys.
What I'm wondering is how the "everyone loved remake aside from a handful of irrelevant tendies on Ganker" posters are going to explain the drop in sales from part 1 to part 2 seeing how it "wasn't divisive"
Rebirth's sales will probably be even better than Remake's since Ganker is the only place you see hate on it.
Everyone loved Remake when it released on PS4
Everyone loved Remake when it came to PSN
Everyone loved Remake when it came to EGS
Everyone loved Remake when it came to Steam
Everyone loved Remake when they could pirate it on PC (I don't approve of this tho)
Add all these people together and that's millions of people who are going to be hype af to play Rebirth as soon as it comes out. I don't think SE are worried about two or three schizos on Ganker with nitpicks.
barry's preorder charts have already debunked this. you will finish slightly ahead of 16 at best and he will make "what went wrong?" threads until you have a nice day.
Uh Ganker you don't like Rebirth? Well you see uhhhh, it's like reallllly goood and uuuuuhhhh, I'm a big fan, and uuuuuhhhh I like how it references the compilation, despite my inherit hate of the compilation and uhhhhhh, Nomura makes bad games by the way. But uuuuuhhhh, he's doing a great job with Final Fantasy 7 and uuuuuuhhhh, I'm being offered my own personal Gold Saucer for Squaaaahhhre Enix.
I'm really not interested in the opinions of anyone who gets photo opportunities with the producer of the game they're hyping up.
Remember when Ganker went to war over "ethical game journalism"? Why does nobody give a frick about millionaire ecelebs being unashamed shills? I guess the "moral" pearl clutching was only for journos who get sent a copy of the game and a pr statement.
I'm really not interested in the opinions of anyone who gets photo opportunities with the producer of the game they're hyping up.
Remember when Ganker went to war over "ethical game journalism"? Why does nobody give a frick about millionaire ecelebs being unashamed shills? I guess the "moral" pearl clutching was only for journos who get sent a copy of the game and a pr statement.
man his face at the end of remake told me everything
he fricking hating the ending but he had to lap it up like a good shill if he wanted to stay in SE's good books
How fricking hard was it for Square to follow their own Source Material and release the shit that people actually asked for? I don't think we'll ever get a FF7 remake in this lifetime
>paying another $70 + DLC for actual slop
If you're subhuman enough to think that Rebirth is going to be anywhere approaching good (even compared to Remake) you need to re-evaluate the heuristic you use to determine what a good game is.
Cancel that pre-order and try not to be such a spineless FOMO-homosexual instead.
You're right FF7Remake is not good
It's great
I wont be cancelling my pre-order
>you need to re-evaluate the heuristic you use to determine what a good game is.
Anon, there's people here that tell me Yakuza writing is good and that persona 5 deserved it's 95 score.
None of you have the right to say whatd good and what isn't. On top of that. Videogames are more complex to evaluate than simply story. Denying that makes you a slop eater by default.
What's wrong with Persona 5?
Bad characters hamfisted like Makoto
Terrible dialogue that overstates everything thats happening both in conversations and phone
One of the worst "villain plan reveals" in the history of videogames (the talk between shido and akechi)
DLC story hamfisted at the end that just gets removed just like that
I liked it
I liked too.
But not 95 score liked it.
I doubt any FF will ever beat the 94 for IX.
Why do you care about scores and whether people liked same stuff on different levels?
And yet it's a very fun game to play that makes you feel good and is great escapism. That's what video games are about
Nothing. The game is a fantastic SOULFUL ride and deserves to get the score it had.
I haven't seen anything to tell me it's going to be garbage. Looks fun honestly. If they kill tifa or cloud or both I'll be pissed, but overall I doubt it'll be a trash fire, could be wrong, but haven't seen anything to indicate otherwise. I'm not paying 70 bucks for it, but I'll play it eventually.
I don't watch series that have not finished. I don't read books or comics that have not finished.
I don't understand why people are so into unfinished games.
Game of Thrones was the most popular when people were discussing it and waiting between episodes and seasons because anything could happen. This particular plague has taken hold of video games to the point where episodic gaming (at full fricking price, mind you) is going to devour the industry.
kino
we going ff8 boys
FF8 doesn't have multiverse. FF8 has time kompression, reducing all linearity into a single point. Which isn't multiverse.
It has to be a multiverse to make sense. The future that results in Ultimecia can't exist after the events of FF8, which means she never existed at all in that universe.
ff8 has a singular timeline that's a loop
did you even play it?
Did anyone?
play it? yes
finish it? probably not
Barry won
>*zelda towers
Tendies need to remember their history.
Zelda towers are ubisoft towers
Yes but tendies try to pin it on FF as if Zelda didn't already do this. Which is typical.
Tendies won too
>stillbirth and shitsteen shills fighting for over a year over these numbers
kek.
But Zelda tower only reveal the map with zero point of interest marked.
The game even tell you to use the scope and mark anything interesting yourself.
Also
>nobody
>literally nobody
>MUH ZELDA
What the frick. As if I needed more reasons to not touch that piece of shit.
Self-sabotaging autism is incapable of winning. They ruin what should be their wins through their own autism.
>ubishit
squeenixBlack folk love their imitation westslop.
and who the frick is barry?
Gg Barry.
what the hell am i watching
You're watching how a 20 hour game is going to be dragged out to 100.
I can't wait to see just how padded Rebirth is. I wanna see if it can beat out Remake.
>inb4 story 15 hours, completion 120 hours
Taking all bets.
Nomura is a hack. I'm glad Barry beat him.
>literal ubislop
Air ships are never coming back are they...
The next game is just gonna be a tear of the kingdom level asset flip
Final fantasy has fallen
how would an airship work with modern graphics
7's map really wasn't that big and since remake isn't even the full map it'd be tiny
>confirmed
Anon did you even play the first fricking game if this is news to you.
Do you not know what a "confirmation" is?
Alright, what was Zack being alive in the final stretch of cutscenes if not a confirmation?
That could have been a flashback, a dream, Cloud's psychosis, Aerith's masturbation material, literally anything.
Anon, I feel like you didn't play either Crisis Core or Remake, and now you're trying to salvage this.
Stop with the false information you big ass homosexual
There's no confirmation of anything
>https://www.powerpyx.com/final-fantasy-7-vii-rebirth-trophy-list-revealed/
It's a trophy in the game that proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that the game ends with two or more worlds merging.
How much more confirmation than that do you need?
"Two Worlds" could be anything you moron
The world of the living and the world of the dead, for example
Calling everything multiverse just shows your capeshit influences
So you're just going to assume that the official trophy from the game i just flat-out lying to you? Or do you think the trophy is subverting your expectations?
Jesus, the state of you.
Example of censorship number 1.
New is better.
Looks fine to me.
I see no problem.
All coomers get the rope.
Let me get the rope and force it on you. Stay silent and drop. Woke c**t. Anyone who supports censorship should delete themselves from existence.
Don't care. If I like it I don't care if its censored. Not all censorship is equal.
>censoring le good
get killed troon
Cope. It's not censorship if it's in tune with the artists original vision.
That FMV wasn’t in the original Japanese release.
CHECK MATE, Black person.
So JP version was early access, check mate.
Example of censorship number 2.
why'd they buckle her shorts anyway if it was true to the original and unbuckled in intergrade?
Example of censorship number 3.
What an ugly tasteless shit.
When Cloud yoinked Sephiroth into Mako pit, Sephy had just slashed Tifa. When Cloud survived the fall from Mako Reactor to Aerith's church, his main objective was to return to Tifa. When Cloud came to from being comatosed from 5 years of being in Hojo's tube in basement of Shinra Mansion it was because Tifa found him in train station. When Cloud survived the dip to Life Stream in Mideel it was because Tifa helped Cloud piece his memories back together. When Cloud failed Soldier exams, Cloud and Tifa were on exact opposite sides of the world.
What or who is the secret of Cloud managing all the super human feats?
>Final Fantasy has become literal capeshit-tier
homie that happened with Advent Children
Yeah but AC wasn't canon, until now.
no compilation homosexualry is canon
it's all fanfic bullshit - even remake
Remake, Rebirth and Regenerated are all 100% canon as they are made by, directed by and written by the company and people who made the original. You can headcanon as much as you want but that doesn't really change the fact that all these 3 at LEAST are canon now.
If any elements from AC, DoC, First Soldier or any other sider-game makes it into those 3 then they're canon too. Deal with it.
>as they are made by, directed by and written by the company and people who made the original
I don't give a frick if this new shit is made by a bunch of washed up hacks trying to relive their glory days. It's not canon to me no matter how much they or shills like you insist so.
>I don't give a frick
Aaand back to the headcanon. Cope more. The actual canon is leaving you behind, homosexual.
Why are you so mad anyway?
Why does everyone have to like what you like?
I haven't talked about liking a god damn thing. But terms such as "canon" are not debatable. Only lefties redefine words to suit their own agendas.
I don't give a FRICK what is "canon" in the Compilation. The Compilation is not canon to the original as it exists outside the Compilation.
>The Compilation is not canon to the original as it exists outside the Compilation.
That isn't true. Everything that happens in the remakes are 100% canon to the original. You can be as mad as you want about it but that doesn't change fact.
nah the original game doesn't have any of the compilation/remake nonsense so your attempt to say otherwise if futile
>nah the original game doesn't have any of the compilation/remake nonsense
Except the characters, the setting, the world, the themes and a good chunk of the plot?
you know exactly what i meant you disingenuous tool
Calling me names isn't convincing anyone.
you did a pretty good job of convincing people that you're moronic all by yourself
you're an absolute moron
see
just because some morons say it's canon doesn't make it so because the original exists with none of the compilation shit tainting it
Really got a death of the author gay here, huh?
you're an absolute moron
>it doesn't matter what the people who made both games said
>I interpret it this way so that's how it is!
have a nice day.
i'm sorry you're incapable of critical thinking
yes that's how it is TO ME
do you fricking understand yet
you dense mongoloid wienersucker
im not saying it isn't canon, I'm saying it isn't canon to me personally
and you go offended over this because you're an overly defensive fanboy
stop giving that moron (You)s
people who pre-order games are basically paid shills as they're financially invested
so fricking true actually
>financially invested
That implies a return on investment doesn't it? They're motivated to shill, but they can't make money from it and thus isn't not a financial investment. Although I do get your point and realize as I'm typing this that I'm being pedantic.
they are paid with the promise of a good product and anyone who dares say the product might not be good will be attacked relentlessly
this thread is proof of this happening
Hmm, yeah you got me there. There's a lot of weird cope ITT.
Remake fanboys are the worst group in the FF fanbase at the moment. Even more-so than the MMO cultists, because at least they can admit 14 is going down the toilet.
it reminds me of the jayrpg review of remake before it dropped titled something like "midgar-only was a mistake" where he called it a padded borefest with nothing but empty talk corridors and padded out levels
he was absolutely right but fan boys went ballistic saying he's biased etc etc when they themselves haven't even played the game
needless to say more and more people agreed with his video after the game dropped
hype is a fork of hysteria imo
yeah it was this one
his negativity triggered the mindless consoomers
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imo the review is absolutely spot-on
also this seems about right
remake was very divisive
>remake was very divisive
lol do you actually think this?
We're in a thread with 40 posters, doomposting over a simple word in a chapter list leak.
You are not part of a majority kek.
what the frick are you talking about
he thinks you're attacking his precious game
Remember now, Ganker is not the majority opinion.
never said it was.
this remake was still divisive.
stop getting offended over everything.
>this remake was still divisive.
>because I said so
lol
lmao even.
nta but even the devs said it would divide the fambase
Keyword being WAS. Very positive rating, 87%, 3% from overwhelmingly positive based on 18252 reviews from people who own the game on Steam, 8.1 based on 8350 ratings in spite of review bombing on Metacritic, which requires no proof of purchase or experience with the game.
Our cope, sisters?
even the devs said it's a divisive game
>just trust me bro
ok
>lol do you actually think this
do you think EVERYONE loved remake?
i know you're in a delusional little bubble but the like/dislike ratio on that video just proves the point
this isn't fricking reddit homosexual
negative opinions are allowed
>like/dislike ratio on a youtube video is what I'm basing my entire being on!
holy lmao you are so desperate for someone to take your narrative seriously.
nta but I'm sure the irony here is lost on you
you didn't answer his question
do you honestly think every single person who played Remake loved it as much as you did?
he is a blind fanboy so yes he does believe that
>a few people didn't like Remake
>That must mean it was divisive! Check out this youtube video that proves it!
Remember you two, Ganker is not big part of the overall opinion of a videogame.
>a few people
now who is coping
>54 people out of 7 million people who bought the game
you tell me.
>hurr durr your numbers are made up
>mine totally aren't by the way haha
stop giving the moron (You)s
no tho it's funny
he is delusional
The truly funny thing is you morons actually thinking your opinions speak for a large portion of the wider audience.
Despite the numerous GOTY awards, the fan reception
, it selling an additional 4 million after launch, and rebirth being hyped.
You stupid morons actually believe remake was this was a heavily divisive game.
Do you idiots even know what divisive means kek
I genuinely believe you don't know what divisive means.
>No you
wew that's all I needed to see.
The vocal minority's autistic screeching doesn't mean the game was divisive. But enough about Barry.
nobody implied it was "heavily" divisive
he had to exaggerate it to make himself look right
no matter what he says it would have still been very divisive for fans of the original
the devs even said so
>he had to exaggerate it to make himself look right
Remember, the only evidence anon posted was a youtube dislike ratio. That's the only thing proof he had saying the game was divisive.
again do you honestly believe every single person who played the original loves remake
Black person you are talking to a delusional fanboy who thinks everyone loved the game so stop
>every single person
>"he had to exaggerate it to make himself look right"
ironic ain't it.
The divisiveness isn't represented anywhere on the internet, thoughever. Highly rated by fans on Metacritic, PSN, Steam, Epic Games Store, you name it.
>y-yeah but the people who don't like it didn't even play it or aren't vocal about it s-s-so...
what does any of this have to do with the fact it would've split the fans of the original
i played it as a kid in 97 and like remake and i know plenty of people who did the same and hate remake and compilation stuff
you cannot possibly think that every single person who played the original as a youngen loved remake
good job ignoring the rest of my post and taking what I said completely out of context
>Call something a remake
>People expect some minor changes but overall the same product
>It goes completely off the rails into doing its own thing
You're genuinely mentally challenged if you can't figure out how the Remake was divisive.
I disagree with him because yeah, Midgar is hallway simulator, so what?
We will get "muh open world" later in part 2 anyway.
>inb4 you're paying extra for padded content
Fine by me.
>im not saying it isn't canon, I'm saying it isn't canon to me personally
So headcanon. Official canon does not agree with you, and that's the one everyone else will be following going forward.
who cares what a bunch of hacks call canon
it's canon to compilation not the original
>NOOO IT'S CANON BECAUSE CORPORATION TOLD ME SO
>REEEEEEE STOP THINKING CRITICALLY
You can call it hyper-shit if you want, even point out a billion criticisms (it's not hard), but you don't get to redefine what is and what isn't canon when the original creator has made something new.
The Hobbit movies are still canon even if they're worse than Lord of the Rings.
They aren't the books, they aren't canon
I didn't say they were canon to the books I said they were canon to the movies.
you're an absolute moron
Cancel it. If the game's great, just re-order it, if it's shit, you've lost nothing.
>multiverse
I knew there was a reason he looked and sounded like Jack now
If you gobbled up the unmitigated shitslop that was the first part, why are you pretending this is suddenly bad?
Their expectations got subverted.
This was explained to you moronic fricking brainlet subhumans in the last thread already.
It's about timelines, not multiverse shit.
How is that different? If there exists timelines to travel to and live out instead of your own, does it really fricking matter if it's called multiverse or timeline-travel?
It's the same shit anyway:
>minor/major changes to reality you can move between
alternate reality, alternate timeline, parallel world
does the naming even matter
>2 clouds
>2 aeriths
>2 yuffies
>2 cids
>2 tifas
>2 barrets
>2 vincents
>2 cait siths
what a shitshow
>2
Who said we need to stop at 2? Give me an Kingdom Hearts Sephiroth fighting OG Sephiroth fighting gacha Sephiroth fighting Kingdom Hearts 2 Sephiroth fighting CC Sephiroth fighting AC Sephiroth. Let's go full moron.
>13 Sephiroths
>7 Clouds
I can see where this is going
We're opening Kingdom Hearts boys. Finally, Xehanort's plan comes to fruition!
Speaking of going full moron, I wonder if Genesis will make an appearance. They added the gays from DoC after all too.
>FF7 Rebirth Multiverse Confirmed
Picked the frick back up. I thought they were going to chicken out.
Time to use Phoenix Down on that scene.
>multiverse / multi-timeline moronation
yes because this is exactly what FF7 needed
nojima is an absolute fricking hack and so are the rest of the washed up 50something behind this embarrassing attempt at being creative
bro you don't understand. ff7 need convoluted nonsense to be better!
I thought everyone hated multiverse shit? Why would SE bother jumping on this trend that wasn't particularly good when capeshit started doing it?
Square has fallen into the trap of chasing trends. When they were developing 7R this sort of shit was still popular with Avenger (don't ask me why, I never understood capeshit). Same with Game of Thrones still being at its height when FF16 was being developed. But by the time these games come out of their dev hell of 7-8 years those concepts/themes are long oversaturated and dried up in the entertainment sphere.
Keep in mind you're talking about the same company that's still trying to make NFTs work
Its actually good, it's just that Marvel destroyed the concept
It is never good. It is impossible to build stakes in any story if any loss, even a galactic loss, is still just one out of an infinite number. If my entire universe is destroyed by Giga-Sephiroth, it doesn't matter if I can just go to the exact same universe with one grain of sand placed differently and literally nothing else is changed.
It is impossible to do multiverse well, because even if you limit it heavily, as long as it is at all possible there exists no reason for the characters to EVER not be striving for that goal. Once multiverse travel is unlocked literally all problems just go away and so do all stakes and all tension.
So why is humanity, IRL, not striving for it now then?
Because as far as we know multiverse doesn't exist? Trust me, the second someone comes along and SOMEHOW confirms multiverses to be a thing and that moving between them is possible literally every resource is going to be put towards achieving it.
>it doesn't matter if I can just go to the exact same universe with one grain of sand placed differently and literally nothing else is changed.
What a moronic statement, the existence of another universe doesn't imply nothing matters.
It absolutely does. Give me any scenario and I'll solve it with infinite universes.
>it's bad but its always been bad so don't worry okay
Whats next? Nothing matters in legacy of Kain? Nothing matters in Chrono cross? Does nothing matters in Chrono trigger? It's not that simple, there's rules to everything. Most of this plots have consequences to exploit all of this
If it has multiverse then stakes literally don't matter. Nothing matters because if there's an infinite amount of You, there's an infinite amount of Crono, Serge, Raziel and whoever you want with a pigment of skin 1% brighter than another and nothing else different about them. If Cloud dies in Rebirth, but multiverse is a thing, then they can just pop right over and grab another Cloud. And they can do this forever. So can Sephiroth, they can fight for all eternity and it would literally never stop because they'd never run out.
>then they can just pop right over and grab another Cloud.
And how would they achieve this
The same way Sephiroth managed it? If he can do it then they can. If they physically can't because Sephiroth is special, then another Sephiroth from another universe can pop over to theirs and help them. Because there will exist a Sephiroth that can do and is chill enough about it to help them and because there's infinite possibilities.
Do you see the problem here?
There is no decision SE can make that is moronic enough that I or anyone else online can't explain this way because there is no putting this genie back in the bottle when it's out.
>The same way Sephiroth managed it? If he can do it then they can
>anon starts introducing headcanon for his scenario to start making sense
>he cannot explain his thinking further with any actual evidence, so he will just whine for the rest of the thread.
Oh ok.
Not the same anon, but you are fricking rertarded
>Instead of proving his claim with anything form the game, attacks the poster instead
Ok.
He's right though. You are subhuman.
These movies are still WAY cheaper to make than video games are and print money.
Japan is a few years behind on trends
The last game was literally about time being fricked up and the story not properly following what it should. It was broken beyond repair from the start and this is what everyone was saying at the time.
Because morons like you don't comprehend that people usually like or dislike games as a whole package, not because it has one specific trait X that you have for some reason developed a phobia for.
People like you can only "evaluate" a game based on how many traits it shares with other games you played. I wonder why? Perhaps you have some sort of mental impairment that makes you unable to develop proper critical thinking skills.
When the major complains about a game are just "It has X like this other game, and that game was bad, so this game must also be bad!" and nothing negative is being mentioned about it on its own merits, then that is usually a good sign that the game will probably come out great.
>projecting
Idk bad gameplay and shit moronic story seem to create a whole package of: not-very-good
The only actual legit criticism about the battle system I have ever seen is that the the stagger bar resets during phase transitions of boss battles. Everything else is usually just "it's bad because it's not turn based!" which is just the critic's personal preference. That or it's just "the battle system is bad!" without specifying what about is bad.
Other than that even those who say they dislike the story for one reason or another usually say that they do like the hybrid battle system.
As for the Story, again, people can't point to actual flaws of the story just some surface-level comparison to other stories. 99% is just that it "feels" like KH or "feels" like capeshit to them. That's usually a sign that the person in question never even tried paying attention to the story.
For many it's just a kind of cope because they are in actuality ultra curious about how it continues but they don't want to admit that they were hooked so they react with such shallow comparisons instead.
Wowee Mister, your mom let you have TWO copes?
There is one legit criticism of the combat. Other than that, disliking it is objectively wrong and proves you wanted turn based.
Nobody who says bad things about the game can explain WHY they're bad, which proves it's objectively good.
>Most people in thread who complained said the system would be better if it leaned more into being action
>"Uhhhhh saying it's bad just means you want turn based!!"
Dumbass Black person
Just funposting btw
>Complete Chapter Final Fantasy 14
uh oh.
I'm not going to cancel my pre-order because I actually want to play the game as soon as possible and I dont need others to tell me what to like
cool story bro
nobody is telling you to you fricking child
>IT'S CANON BECAUSE THE DEVS SAID SO
>well it's not canon to as the men who made this are not the same as the people who made the original because they are just husks of their former selves with nojima especially going off the deep end after his KH stint
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE YOU CAN'T THINK THAT STOP THINKING FOR YOURSELF AND OBEY
>Its not canon because I don't like the devs
the actual cope lmao
Where did I say I didn't like them?
I just said they're not at the top of their game as they used to be decades ago.
You are such a corporate bootlicker, it's fricking embarrassing.
>because they are just husks of their former selves
about right there
>You disagreed with me? Well you're just a boot licker
calm down child
>about right there
That doesn't mean I don't like them you fricking imbecile. I literally just said they're not the same people they were decades ago.
stop giving him (You)s
he is too personally invested in this video game that it's probably his entire identity at the moment
>stop giving him (You)s
I'm 100% done with the moron. Don't worry.
kiddos please, getting angrier will not make the games any less canon.
>can't into reading comprehension
>calling anyone a child
Anon that sounds like pure copium
something made after another thing cannot be canon to the original thing
So a sequel can't be canon?
something being canon is completely subjective
THANK YOU
fricking took long enough for someone to point this out
devs said the remakes still lead into advent children and that means people will still stay dead/die who are supposed to be dead
Unless Advent Children is just in a different world/timeline/dimension/whatever. That way they can do whatever they want and just say that AC-Cloud is on homosexualworld 8293.
No FRICKING shit, moron. Did you not play FF7 REMAKE? Lmao. You people are so fricking braindead, it's shocking you're even able to use the internet and navigate to Ganker.
You are lying, there is no way someone pre-ordered FF7r2 without knowing the story was likely going to suck.
I'm actually excited for the game because the first remake was fun. But the story for these remakes are moronic, anyone who played the first knows this.
I swear the facial animations in these games make them look like fricking aliens trying to emote like humans do.
I think they look good. But if they aren't for you then whatever.
Time travel bullshit is so much better when it's not multiverse, like Steins Gate.
OP is trying too much
laughable bait
final fantasy already has a multiverse its connected by the void, lorelet.
>preordering squareslop
let them keep your money as punishment for your bad decisions.
Still not cancelling my pre-order
Larry is here. Time for
>Muh doom posters
>Muh tendies
>Muh Barry
Someone make a yoshit thread to distract him.
>Final Fantasy 7 was always literal capeshit-tier
Fixed. Don't lump us 8chads in with you 7sissies loser.
>the one sperg defending Remake/Rebirth like his life depends on it
what makes someone like this
i liked remake but can' still admit it was a very flawed game
don't question autism
what's with the rebbit spacing
>the one sperg defending Remake/Rebirth like his life depends on it
His opposite is also sperging hard in every thread. You, perhaps?
why is everyone acting like there was some big info drop from state of play when all they did was announce an announcement?
holy frick you people are obsessed
Spoilers when
soon~~
wow, who would thought?
>Last remaining member
did Barrett quit or something
In the alt time line it shows Tifa, Barret and Red dying and their corpses being carried to helicopters. Didnt you watch the trailers?
>Didnt you watch the trailers?
nta but nope. I only watch the first one and ignore every one afterwards.
That gonna cause problems because then you dont know what others know
already played the OG so I'm fine with that.
But you are participating in discussion of Rebirth and instead of filling yourself in what everyone currently knows about it, you are asking others to spoon-feed you
>no, you can't join FF7 discussions if you didn't watched the trailer
okay.
What's the point participating then?
He either died or went MIA in Zack's world
can't say for sure right now but or he just don't know they're alive since they left midgar or it's some random timeline where everyone except for him died at the plate.
Didnt you watch the trailer showing Avalanche members dead on stretchers and being carried away? It was the same trailer showing Elena?
see
this is false, jessies gloves were on the table (would have been crushed and nothing left if she died in the tower. again.)
wedge is unconfirmed. but I somehow doubt the guy who gave us the LUCK Materia died offscreen to fricking time ghosts.
It refers to the alternative time line where Cloud never joined Avalanche
I just want another gacktkino song like redemption
You know, people just wanted the Remake to be the same game but better graphics... not all this added bullshit
Please refrain from talking on my behalf. Graphic update only would have been lazy
>afterbirth shills mistakenly believed the barry samegayging was real people supporting their flopslop
kek
>another multiverse shitshow where nothing matters
I fricking hate multiverse and time travel so much
But it worked so well in Marvel movies!
I don’t because the only FFVII that matters is the real one not this woke troony remake! Get fricked!
Pure Nomura-KINO is Imminent.
He’s not even directing nor writing it
They put his gay ass on Kh4
>introducing timeline shit into 7
Wouldn't something like this fit 8 more?
reddit fantasy 7: redditbirth
>No playable multiverse where Tifa, Aerith and Yuffie are so overly sexualized that cause feminists and trannies to get the rope on livecamera.
Ganker will hate it no matter what happens.
I and all the other real fans will love it no matter what happens.
what if Ganker ends up loving it?
Threadly reminder that Barry won.
Barry won..
I liked Remake, but you'd have to be a moron to not think it was pretty divisive. It's a risk they took, and it paid off. The person saying it wasn't is simply in complete denial and truly believes every single person loved it. Pure fanboy brainrot.
>It's a risk they took, and it paid off.
Why do you morons keep saying this when we haven't EVEN FRICKING SEEN THE PAYOFF
Jesus Christ go drink a bottle of bleach you dumb frick.
it means it sold well you fricking imbecile
also rebirth was voted the most anticipated game this year so clearly it did pay off
It sold well because FF7 is the holy grail of most gays childhood.
>Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth - WINNER
>Hades 2
>Like a Dragon: Infinite Wealth
>Star Wars Outlaws
>Tekken 8
Outstanding competition lmao.
>"It sold well because of the changes it was so brave to make!"
>Even though most of the marketing didn't highlight said changes, the most was seeing Barrett get stabbed by Sephiroth in the launch trailer
Remake didn't sell well because people were excited about changes to the narrative, it sold well because normalgays wanted to gobble up a remake of game they loved as a kid.
And yeah Rebirth is also my most anticipated game, mainly because I want to see the train wreck and laugh at it.
>Even though most of the marketing didn't highlight said changes, the most was seeing Barrett get stabbed by Sephiroth in the launch trailer
They showed the jannies in the trailers
Nah, remake sold well because it was a good game. Simple as.
>it sold because of this reason I made up
So we're just pretending now that FF7 wasn't beloved by normalgays when they were kids or teens?
holy frick you're stupid
>Jesus Christ go drink a bottle of bleach you dumb frick.
take your own advice you illiterate dolt
The devs have said themselves Remake would be a divisive game. The guy ITT is just a sperg.
when a remake fan acts like a moron you're supposed to damage control by calling it a falseflag
>@666110548
Trying too hard, no (You) for you.
Oh really? What would have to happen for you to dislike it?
I'll forgive them if they give me an Earisu kissu!
>sold well
>couldnt outperform low budget robot game with butt
kek
imagine how better i'd sell if Tifa had a similar booty like 2B...
Anyone who was happy with the story in remake was going to be happy with whatever they got, and they will continue to convince themselves it's all kino no matter how bad things get
That's just cope people say when they are not excited for something but feel left out when everyone else is
well, yes. they're going an extra mile to sell this game to casual westoids.
>time travel
>multiverses
>when the original FF7 had nothing of the fricking sort
Extremely fricking cringe and embarrassing. Kitase and Nomura are washed the frick up.
Everyone who complained about time travel is going to feel like such an idiot when they find out it wasn't time travel, but actually non-synchronous parallel worlds that all follow the same timeaxis and takes place after the end of the OG
It should have been used for ff8, that game could have used or the mk9 treatment
8 is perfect troony go bACK
Define remake
Define a lot
Define heavily
Define canon
Define every single word you say until you regret daring to say something pessimistic or critical of remake
>stop liking things I don't.jpg
why didn't SE call it "FF7 Reboot" instead of Remake?
because it’s a remake
I didn't like Remake because I don't like the way combat works. It feels like I'm doing weak as frick damage the entire time until I stagger the enemy, then they just get deleted, so most of the time it doesn't feel good to swing the buster sword or punch shit as Tifa. From what I've seen of 16 it has the opposite problem where everything is piss easy and the devs aren't going to do anything to change that.
I'm willing to bet most of Remake's sales came from KH/CC secondairies.
I'm willing to bet it came from ff7 and ff fans as a whole.
>Welcome to the Justice League, Cloud Strife. Brainiac and the Joker are working with Sephiroth to destroy the multiverse and we need your help.
Don't tempt them Anon.
spoonfeed me, do I have to play every FF till 7 to understand 7 and every FF till 16 to understand FF7remake and FF7rebirth?
No. Play OG FF7, watch Advent Children, play Crisis Core (Reuniom version is ok) and you good to play Remake and Rebirth
No, every FF is its own thing, the popular ones sometimes get more games related to it. All you really need to play is the original and probably watch Advant Children. Crisis Core unless you want to know more about Zack you can just read up on, and just read up on Dirge of Cerberus because it's a shit game.
every fricking series is this shit now
why
frick you
frick you
frick you
do i need to play kingdom hearts: missing link to understand ff7:reborted?
No, play OG FF7, watch Advent Children, play Crisis Core (Reunion version is ok) and you good to play Remake and Rebirth
kingdom hearts is unrelated besides some extreme meta with cloud seth and aeris(th), also yuffie and cid and some others are there.
other anon didn't mention dirge. play dirge after OG 7 but after watching advent children, iirc.
>muh crisp packet
ok.
It shows Biggs talking with Zack. The same Zack that survived and carried Cloud to Midgar. It's different timeline
>zack lives is a different timeline than remake is a different timeline than OG
zack goes to the church from remake timeline in yuffies dlc ending. you're all wrong and basing it on a CRISP PACKET
Zack didnt survive in Remake time line. He is only shown surviving after the party defeated the time jannies. He goes to the church and sees the news about Avalanche dying and Aerith not found
>FF7's world is so shallow and boring they had to break the emergency parallel universe glass
that's the fricking thing tho
it isn't - they are just hacks
yee
FF7's world is like 3 poor bumfrick villages and Midgar, there's barely any history or thought put into it.
SE went for parallel universes because they knew there was nothing to work with.
wrong, and the state of the world is intentional. its a commentary about military industrial complex and mega corps. and "nuclear".
well, it was.
It's a Captain Planet episode, it's not deep in the slightest.
Why do remakegays always try and belittle and downplay the original games? They always try and convince you the original was shit and that's why you should play the remake.
7's world is fine and imo one of the more interesting FF settings, it's just Nomura is a fricking hack and needs to infest everything he works on with Kingdom Heartsism
Nojima*
Both of them are hacks so they're interchangeable to me.
Nojima is the actual writer of FF7 and 7R, KH1 and KH2.
FF7 has an interesting world. They just didn't want a 1:1 redo of the story and gave us this abomination.
Why are Remake fans so overly fricking defensive? I used to think the "no criticism allowed" pics were a joke, but it seems whoever made it was dead serious.
Why are you so obsessed with aggressively "criticizing" the game? You could mirror your posts right back at you, lmao.
I liked Remake though, but I can admit it had a few glaring flaws. It seems you aren't allowed to criticize it at all in these threads. You are obsessed with being overly defensive because you've probably made it you entire identity.
>It seems you aren't allowed to criticize it at all
There's no fricking police deleting your posts for wrong think you big baby.
you're the one losing your fricking shit in here any time someone says anything remotely negative though
>No YOU
grow some spines and stop freaking out when you get even the slightest amount of pushback.
you're the one freaking out though
>Can only reply with no u
just proving the proving the point.
damn dude stop shaking
are you having a stroke?
calm the frick down dude
>and stop freaking out when you get even the slightest amount of pushback
the fricking irony on display here
see
yeah just people like you sperging out and name-calling like the actual big babies
>aggressively "criticizing" the game
he didn't though
you're just proving his point
Who are you to say he didn't on this anonymous board? Have you read the thread? Get some self-awareness. You gays are criticizing just as aggressively as people are defending it.
saying remake was divisive is not "heavily criticizing" it or being aggressive
you are being aggressive because you're upset not everyone is on your full positivity bubble
>you are being aggressive
No, I'm not. You're outright ignoring the posts calling you out on the supposed divisiveness of the game and crying about people "aggressively defending" the game. It's sad.
Black person even the devs said the decision to diverge from a 1:1 remake would split the fambase
don't fricking bother man
this guy believes everybody on the planet loved the game
FF7 fans have always been overly defensive, it doesnt surprise me
Geeez maybe that has to be related to your attitude on attacking the ones that like something you dont, but i dont know
Reminds me of Breath of the Wild fans.
The biggest red flag for the story of this game was the Devs saying "we didn't spend time on fleshing out Sephiroth because everyone knows who he is".
Yeah people know who Sephiroth is, but unless you've played 7 (and when you market yourself as a remake some people will just go to the remake) you don't actually know what his deal is other then "he's... le bad"
>we didn't spend time on fleshing out Sephiroth because everyone knows who he is".
They literally said the contrary
There's gonna be far more sephiroth fleshing out
They said that they were gonna change sephiroth approach and not let him be so cryptic and hidden for 80% of the game
By "fleshing out" they mean "showing him stalking and lusting for Cloud"
Oh ok you are just one of those
Why play Remake if you not familiar with the OG?
nta but because I thought it was gonna be OG so I didn't have to engage with that outdated shit from 1997. I still had to go back and play through FF7 because I had no idea what was going on in the """remake""". Frick Squeenix.
So they made you play more. That must have been awful
>67 IPs
Grim.
Not reading anything ITT because you're all stupid.
Everyone already knew this after the first part. Nobody is surprised.
Tendies haven’t played it so they think this revelation is hot controversy.
How did Tifa and Barret meet Red XIII if Cloud never joined Avalanche in Zack's world
Aerith freed Red
Lotta chinger changers ITT. Admit it, FF7R is cringe.
You are all so fricking moronic.
No you see, we are legion.
We are never wrong.
What we say is the truth.
why are you pointing at your house?
your "no criticism allowed" attitude is the most reddit thing here though
You're going to have to do better than
>NO YOU
>if I keep spamming NO U then I'll be right
just frick off - it's evident you are incapable of critical thought because you've made this game your fricking identity and any tiny spec of criticism is taken like a personal attack to you
>any tiny spec of criticism is taken like a personal attack to you
100% this.
You would have to be fricking delusional to not think Remake was divisive among the 7 community.
I think hype culture has rotted people's brains.
oh it definitely has
i think only morons pre-order games and they're usually the most defensive bunch
lol nice spacing
frick off moron
is this a preview of what Rebirth threads will be like for the coming 2 months?
Remake threads have been like this since Remake launched
God no. As more info is revealed and it looks bleaker and bleaker this will get much much worse.
Can someone make FF7 thread in some other board? Ganker is bad place for vidya discussion
>remake was pretty divisive among fans of the original
>NO EVERYBODY FRICKING LOVED IT SHUT THE FRICK UP
perfectly reasonable response
Did you even play FF Dissidia OP?
FF7R threads were full of everyone pointing and laughing at the game when it came out.
Because the anons who bought the game were playing it and not posting about it
remake threads have always been no criticism allowed
>You now remember the time jannies
>mfw
Time jannies won't be in Reb -ack!
OG game sucked, grandpa
Be thankful that dev fixed the story, as it should be
>destroy the old to empower the new
Lefty recognized.
I remember going up to launch of FF7Remake, people were taking the piss out of Time Jannies and purists were saying they were never gonna touch the rest of the trilogy again.
How come there's vocal support for Rebirth now?
Is it time to finally admit Square Enix and Sony hire pay shills on Ganker to continue to drum up hype for Final Fantasy?
Ha yes, Ganker, where all gamers gather
>implying what people say and what people do aligns
I know. It's so frustrating that anons dont share exact same opinions
wait, Ganker isn't the majority opinion?
There's like 5 insane Square Enix fans rotating 24/7 on Ganker. They make constant threads about the last 4 FF games pretending they aren't irrelevant trash forgotten by normal people. They also treat the game producers as if they were their idols. It's beyond pathetic
I'm sorry your favorite jrpg isnt more popular, bro.
boomers gonna freak out
i can understand shitposters and doomposters taking the piss to get a rise out of people, but I'll never understand people who will actually take them seriously and get furious defending a product they haven't even experienced yet.
It's simple. Most people who behave like that have pre-ordered the game. They're basically shareholders. They have money riding on it being good as they've given the company a loan.
that actually makes sense
i don't remember the last time i pre-ordered a game now that I think about it
>I understand people disliking a game, but i will understand people liking a game
Great input
great reading comprehension
because as this thread has proven they get legitimately mad
>because as this thread has proven they get legitimately mad
You sure they are legitimately mad?
yes. this dude was fricking shaking typing this
the dude spamming No U was 100% mad
That reads like fun posting
it reads like so mad i'm stumbling over my own words
>getting upset from this
Nah you are.
>laughing at a sperg shaking so hard he can't type is getting upset
yeah okay lmao
yeah, u mad
>NONU again
christ you really have nothing else to go on huh
you sad
>these tears
Yep, pretty mad.
homie has spend half the thread NO U'ing and is now resorting to U MAD BRO
he's mindbroken
>has spend
spent, ESL
>no desperately digging up typos for any semblance of a win
pathetic
>no desperately
shaking as you typed this, I assume.
I will play the game and i just find the shitposting funny, there isnt any reason to get mad yet.
What makes you think they're serious and not fun posting to get a rise out from the shit posters and doom posters?
Trust in Nomura for HE never let us down
Let him cook
the only thing Nomura is cooking is a recipe to inject his beloved versus XIII into KH
Except in Kingdom Hearts.
btfo
wrong thread
Cloud is in the Justice League, this is the correct thread
moron
kys phonehomosexual
>So I'm getting a shit death where I just sit on a bench defeated while under control of Brainiac and Harley just shoots me in the head
>Okay cool!
Yeah I'm sure Kevin totally was okay with it.
I just hope sora, donald and goofy appear together with zack and save aerith from getting stabbed
I literally don't care as long as I can play a fun game and ogle Yuffie.
>even the most controversial news about Rebirth barely manages 79 IPs in about 400 posts
1m sales opening week. It's DOA boys.
>controversial news
we knew there were 2 worlds 4 years ago anon, this isn't news
To be fair no one knows the nature of these worlds. One of the most popular theories i see being repeated is how Zack's world is a type of lifestream world. So saying people knew it was always a multiverse is a weird statement
We knew because in the ending of Remake after the time jannies were defeated the Zack section shows different mascot dog. Why point out the different dog if it didnt mean anything?
Because it could be just a narrative tool to point out how they're not in the same "space"
As example, in a logic way why the frick the jannies would change the logo of STAMP? Stamp just seems like a hint of what could be happening.
Regardless of what kind of world it is, narratively there's no reason to introduce it unless the worlds interact. So this merging of worlds comes as zero surprise.
I know a few were thinking it was showing a "what if" scenario, maybe those will cope with this for a bit.
Yes. It was always clear how these worlds would interact, but there is a big difference if that other world is an actual world. Because it means people would literally jump between them, and if it was a type of lifestream dimension we would see just info being transmitted.
True, in theory the way in which they interact will depend on its nature. But that's not how I see SE play this out, they tend to lean into the fanservicy stuff, so that would mean Zack becoming part of the main thing, even if only for a while, seem very likely.
Yes. We know there will be a "confluence", the question is how this confluence will happen. Will people have memories transplanted? Jump between worlds? or Zack and Genesis will jump from portals like a mcu movie? These are the big questions
the worlds become one reality, so characters are all back in the same place
if they just talk to each other or get memories planted over that's kind of boring no?
would that really make it worthwhile to introduce a concept like this
My issue with that Zack world being an actual world is because it undoes his death and i think this is absolute garbage. I hate when stories do that. So i would rather have him helping them through some type of lifestream dimension than actually just coming back from death without any issues.
And i dont think it would be boring, depending on how they structure his world, as a type of world of ruin, could be interesting even if it isnt an actual world.
I wouldn't necessarily like it either but at the same time it's hard to envision it not happening. It seems to be part of Sephiroth's plan so as the party goes against that eventually the merge could be undone and those who are supposed to be dead return to the lifestream in the end.
I also keep thinking how the timeline of Zack's world doesnt make any sense.The fact he arrives in midgar after the end of remake is really strange. It doesnt fit at all.
>I also keep thinking how the timeline of Zack's world doesnt make any sense.The fact he arrives in midgar after the end of remake is really strange. It doesnt fit at all.
He arrives at least one month later than a catatonic Cloud in midgar, while Cloud was also the one carrying the buster sword. Weird.
Shouldn't he arrive a few weeks before platefall, kinda like OG Cloud did? It's weird that he arrived after it happened
Yes, Cloud arrives weeks before FF7 starts, and then the whole game happens. Zack arrived even later than all these events? It doesnt fit.
>Shouldn't he arrive a few weeks before platefall, kinda like OG Cloud did? It's weird that he arrived after it happened
Zack in rebith isnt even arriving after the platefall, but after midgar is destroyed in the last fight against sephiroth. So after remake ends.
troony game
It's important Anon.
Do you really have to post this shit as an OP pic you piece of shit butthole?
Can't you just post a normal Rebirth OP pic and keep the fricking spoilers to the inside of the thread? Huh? No? You just have to be that fricking guy.
Look Ma I post them spoilers on Ganker am I cool or what!
Well alright then, farewell Ganker I guess I was a fool to trust you fricks would have at least an ounce of integrity. I needed a break from this fricking place anyway.
See you in March. But not you OP. You can go burn in hell.
homie mad
This isn't a spoiler, everyone knew this. OP is just being a homosexual pretending it was.
>Deliberately put eye-catching achievements so that fans can get hype and generate discussions
>deliberately made every trailer have a unique scene with Aerith or Tifa to keep shippergays on the edge of their seats
>deliberately made FF7R a "re-imagining" remake that is not exactly the same as the original so that it makes the game feel fresh and exciting to wait for
Those little things...
Those little things are the touch of a Maestro...
One of the things I like about Nomura is he got all those little things right...
Let him cook
you sound autistic
Based Nomura enjoyer
This game is going to be so Kino, I can feel it in my blood
Playing it for the first time, what am i in for?
A game you'll miss terribly if you ever decide to play the "remake".
a terrible experience with all the garbage modding going on
Use Steal. You can get good items from Eligor in train graveyard, Soldier enemies in Shinra HQ, Sweepers outside Midgar. Also you can Steal Ethers from the small dragons in Train Graveyard to get easy money. Enemy Skills are OP. Check wiki what enemies to get Enemy Skills from
>could have expanded on Jenova and the fact she is a FRICKING ALIEN
>nope we're gonna time travel and multiverse fart sephiroth is a dimensional time god fart
>could have expanded midgar
>nah we'll just add jessies house and that's it
>everything else will be an empty corridor lmao
FF hasn't been good for a long time.
Jenova is space virus. The Jenova body is Cetra woman who fell victim to Jenova
Why is no one talking about how fucjing boring the gameplay is? The first wasn't even worth finishing.
People are desperately coping, trying to pretend it was good so their 70 (soon 140!) bucks aren't wasted.
I honestly will never understand why people praise Remake's combat. It's a confused mess that doesn't know what it wants to be. It's fricking frustrating because it makes you want more shortcuts so it can be a decent action game, but you're forced into this psuedo-ATB system where you have to keep pausing the combat to go through a menu.
I don't get it either. The combat is boring. Hard wasn't that challenging at all because Chakra was pretty OP.
Precisely this. You can tell they weren't actually sure what to do for it, so the gameplay just kind of limps along. Piss easy and not fun to really engage with at all.
Because it was really good?
In what world?
It's a good combat thats uiversally loved
>It's a good combat
What's weird is that I'm seeing a lot of the same cope that was present in XVI threads up to release. Which is wild, it feels like history is repeating itself.
Do you remember the last positive thread for a AAA game in Ganker?
Do you remember the last good AAA game?
You dont even need to have "AAA", just say positive thread for any game.
Lots of positive palworld threads.
>You dont even need to have "AAA", just say positive thread for any game.
The only way to have positive threads not filled with terrible discourse is if your franchise is kinda niche.
Infinite wealth
People also shitposted infinite wealth a lot. They're still doing it, just less because there are other bigger games to shitpost right now.
>AAA
yakuza games are not aaa you moron
Wrong thread buddy
frick are you on about
nobody even talks about 16 any more
The two aren't really even comparable in terms of tone or combat, explain what you mean.
like what
You struck a nerve here Anon. Shills are worried you've read the script.
THE SHILLS ARE UNMASKED, PANIC
Kys barry. I will enjoy all FF with YoshiP chads and Nomura chads.
Sequels always do a little worse so sales don't even matter + everything is digital now anyway.
Just wait til PC launch and you'll look moronic cus I'm not buying a PS5 for this, but I see a lot of people did.
>spoiling 7 Rebirth before it even comes out
Barry, this is pathetic
>spoiling fan-fiction tier writing
oh no
Final Fantasy VII Rebirth will have “a lot more” of Tifa’s backstory
by Adam Cook on February 5, 2024
Final Fantasy VII Rebirth
Over on the official Square Enix site, an interview with Final Fantasy VII Rebirth actor Britt Baron, who plays Tifa has been published.
Baron plays Tifa Lockheart and when asked about her message to upcoming fans of Final Fantasy VII Rebirth, said: “My message to fans is… oh god, how much can I spoil? Ok, my message to fans is to be excited, be open-minded because I think we have some really fun surprises, and I think we also have some awesome fan service that will make everyone happy. I’m hoping, knock on wood (taps her own head)”. Baron added, “Let’s not jinx anything, but I’m really proud. I think it’s a really exciting new chapter and we’ve really expanded this world”.
> have some awesome fan service that will make everyone happy.
What could it be? Sex?
It's Lockhart, not Lockheart
>be open-minded
No
>Remake was a mediocre game with terrible writing
>this will be more of the game except with slightly better gameplay
that's my 2 cents
and before you rabid fanboys jump on me, mediocre does not mean outright bad
ok
Nah it's not mediocre. Its pretty good.
How many times in your life have you don't this automatic bot response, and do you think you'd be embarrassed if you saw the total number
>have you don't this
Stumbling over yourself kek.
*done this
It's a lot isn't it?
You'd fall into an autism coma if you saw someone say they thought it was mediocre without "correcting" them to say it was good
endless empy hallways and padded out dungeons is pretty bad actually
>no your opinion is wrong and mine is right
grow the frick up
that's fiar
Uhhhh you fricking damn chudigga! Nomura-sama WILL be giving us INFINATE kiBlack person!!!!
More importantly I think the pacing will be much improved. Midgar was a slog, turning 2 screen sections into 1 hour dungeons with nothing interesting in them.
If by mediocre you mean mogged all FF games in the last 2 decades, then you're right.
>mediocre
I think that's being a bit charitable.
Damn you werent kidding, except it was viceversa, judging by how angry
got
what did she mean by that
Someone here really can't stand the thought that there are people in the world who didn't enjoy a videogame as much as he did
FF7R is Nomura's revenge for SQEX cancelling Versus 13.
This is only the start of it
I'm just gonna say it.
Im glad versus 13 got canceled
FF7 is more influential and popular than all FFs combined
Sorry bro, I don't think many of us here like FNC and nu-FF.
>FF7 is more influential and popular than all FFs combined
influential, yes, popular, no
outsold by FFX
>FFX
The entire X franchise (8 for X, 6 for x-2, 6+ for the remaster collection) sold over 20 million.
FF7 and Remake themselves sold 21 million together.
it's 21.1 million for X by now
*japan only
Japanese games
source?
>outsold by FFX
wrong
right, go look up the numbers
And X hasnt even had its remake yet
the burden of proof is on (You)
nah FFX is actually the best selling FF (excluding the mmos)
NOMURA KINO INCOMING
FUNAL FANTASY BROS WE ARE SO BACK
are Tifa's nipples in?
>death is inglorious and shitty and cannot be undone
>jk, there's an alternative dimension were every best case wish fulfilment scenario played out and nobody died
lol, lmao
>alternative dimension were every best case wish fulfilment scenario played out and nobody died
>the one they have shown is just zack and biggs being alive while everyone else is dead
we need to find another one.
Do you need room temperature to like Remake's writing?
Room temperature is pretty preferable, yes. Of course I don't think temperature will fix any of Remake's many many faults.
You're all just gonna keep sucking it off until it's out. Then you'll start pointing out it's flaws and how it ruined Final Fantasy and then you'll be sucking it off again once REintroduction is announced in 3 years. Then when that's out you'll say the remake trilogy killed the franchise like the Compilation did, before you suck it off when the next member-berries Final Fantasy 7 project launches.
Nomura never misses tho
Never gonna happen bruh
>Look I added noctis to kh3 and dressed every other character up as him too! ISN'T THAT COOL! YOU CARE ABOUT VERSUS 13 NOW RIGHT!?!??!?!
>Look I added noctis to kh3
Do you mean Yozora? or do you mean Sora? or Roxas? You need to be more specific, Nomura is known for his unique designs, I understand that it can be a challenge for people who are not his fan
FF7R was literally the best modern FF, what are you smoking?
That might mean something if any one of those games (including rebirth) was anything close to "good".
My hype for rebirth was killed by remake fans. I have never let a fanbase effect my enjoyment before, but they're so fricking moronic and obnoxious that I asked myself if this is really the kind of game I want to play and discuss online. It's like the sonic fandom but worse. It's like the rick and morty fandom but worse. I've never seen anything quite like it. The gulf between the games quality and the obsessive overdefensive fanaticism of the fanbase is astonishing. It's like a fanbase made up completely of Barrys.
Maybe next time dont act moronic.
What I'm wondering is how the "everyone loved remake aside from a handful of irrelevant tendies on Ganker" posters are going to explain the drop in sales from part 1 to part 2 seeing how it "wasn't divisive"
Rebirth's sales will probably be even better than Remake's since Ganker is the only place you see hate on it.
Everyone loved Remake when it released on PS4
Everyone loved Remake when it came to PSN
Everyone loved Remake when it came to EGS
Everyone loved Remake when it came to Steam
Everyone loved Remake when they could pirate it on PC (I don't approve of this tho)
Add all these people together and that's millions of people who are going to be hype af to play Rebirth as soon as it comes out. I don't think SE are worried about two or three schizos on Ganker with nitpicks.
>Ganker is the only place you see hate on it
Because Ganker is the only place that fricking cares.
proof?
do you ever do this in response to positive posts
of course
Like how everyone wanted to play Ever Crises, right?
The game's called Ever Crisis
That's how forgettable it is
>cater to the general populace
>they love the slop
wow I'm shocked
barry's preorder charts have already debunked this. you will finish slightly ahead of 16 at best and he will make "what went wrong?" threads until you have a nice day.
Why would anyone go to such lengths to defend nu-Nojima's writing?
because they love the characters too much to move on
as long as they see the characters again they will open wide and beg for more slop
kh brainrot
If X sold more than VII, I'd say that it's because more people got into vidya around the time of the PS2.
Nah its because the remaster has been selling well
so does this mean 7 is technically the best selling singleplayer FF?
I think as of 2023's Fanfest in Tokyo, it went up to 32 million registered users, but I could be wrong.
it's 30mil
FF7 & Remake has sold 21 M, the FF7 compilation has sold additional 7 M, and Crisis Core is another 5 M, if you total them up then it's around 33 M
For comparison
Final Fantasy X/X-2 sold 21 M combined
Final Fantasy XIII trilogy sold 20 M combined
Uh Ganker you don't like Rebirth? Well you see uhhhh, it's like reallllly goood and uuuuuhhhh, I'm a big fan, and uuuuuhhhh I like how it references the compilation, despite my inherit hate of the compilation and uhhhhhh, Nomura makes bad games by the way. But uuuuuhhhh, he's doing a great job with Final Fantasy 7 and uuuuuuhhhh, I'm being offered my own personal Gold Saucer for Squaaaahhhre Enix.
I'm really not interested in the opinions of anyone who gets photo opportunities with the producer of the game they're hyping up.
Remember when Ganker went to war over "ethical game journalism"? Why does nobody give a frick about millionaire ecelebs being unashamed shills? I guess the "moral" pearl clutching was only for journos who get sent a copy of the game and a pr statement.
man his face at the end of remake told me everything
he fricking hating the ending but he had to lap it up like a good shill if he wanted to stay in SE's good books
Barry won
been winning since FF15
frick off already sperg
jump in front of a train
Yea. I doubted him because 15 was pretty shit imo, but he was right all along. Maybe I will try the Royal Edition as penance.
How fricking hard was it for Square to follow their own Source Material and release the shit that people actually asked for? I don't think we'll ever get a FF7 remake in this lifetime