Go to a private server like Eden or Horizon. avoid the official servers, they are dead and the only wienerroaches left are the bitter gays who never got over XIV/WoW taking most everyone away.
Go to the official servers, you can start whenever you want in any way you want. These days you can get npc party members to level with. There is still group content, but it's all at the end of the game. You can progress through the rest of it at whatever pace you like.
As fun as the golden days of group leveling were, not having to shout in Jeuno for an hour and a half just to take a 20 minute airship ride to a party that disbands 5 minutes later is a welcome change.
>You can still find groups to do most things in the game that need them.
Good luck with that when most people want you to be geared up already with a REMA to do the content that you get your gear from.
Yeah, I think people group the human interaction memories with the actual game too much. Still remember my LS quoting Azumanga Daioh when it was fairly new and some taru always talking about wanting a mithra tail to tickle his prostate
How much did you learn about Japanese culture?
No blind invites, you had to introduce yourself first.
They call their bathrooms water closets, "wc brb".
They always knew a secret exp camp at any level.
They also love women with big hips.
I learned I liked playing with them far more than the average NA gay on 14 these days.
Yet modern internet makes me fear for the day when they truly open cross-world visits. Americans infesting Japanese servers with ease just sounds like hell.
>tfw always been a DRG main >tfw I played FFXI as a stupid teenager, didn't like leveling WAR, and went DRG/MNK for over a year
The waits I endured were legendary.
Wait until next month for the anniversary campaign, you should be able to pick up the complete edition for 10bux. Don't listen to private server gays, retail is still the best way to experience this game in the modern era since you won't have any nostalgia for how it worked in the early 2000s anyway.
No, either a physical or digital journal of quests you receive, the person/location you got it from, and what they want. The quest log only tells you the name of the quest and a short description, but no specifics from the quest dialogue. You could look them up on the wiki, but where's the fun in that?
>You could look them up on the wiki, but where's the fun in that?
I could totally find the fun in searching a tiny spot in a large area but you literally get no indication. The spot can be in the otherside of the world and in top of that it doesn't even glow. You literally have to get near and cycle between the targets to get the invisible spot. It's just sadistic at that point.
Oh yeah, use the wiki for stuff you can't find, but I'd very much suggest keeping a journal as a checklist for items or locations, or pieces of dialogue that seem useful.
Online games used to be about wonder, that's why they encouraged players from all over the world to come together despite language differences and had mechanics focusing on communication and just being part of the world.
People today have lost the wonder of online play, being able to talk to someone across the globe is taken from granted and people just care about latency and checking off boxes. MMOs have taken too much design input from mobile games to maximize your addiction with things like daily quests and limited time items, which ironically makes modern MMOs feel much more like a "job" than older ones despite the reduced time investment.
So guys in this game do people actually do anything or do they leave it to the plugins and add-ons? because I feel everyone just idle and don't know how to win in end-game fights
That's probably true, but FFXI was also different in general. For years, I've tried talking to people about MMOs, but it always feels like they're talking about a different genre entirely to me.
Is job mastery supposed to take a fricking millennium? I've been grinding job points at one of the gates areas and the fact I need, what is it like 2100 of these total to master it is insane. This is like 75 cap era grind tier. I estimate 23-27 days of grinding to get to job master, are people just doing this some other way that's faster? It's just me and my trusts beating up apex mobs
There is nothing to do in the game after RoV except mastering jobs for no reason or doing ambuscade again for no reason because there is no new content
I started playing retail recently. Can I get by starting as WHM then have RDM as my sub job for offensive magic? Haven't found anyone to play with yet and I can't play much, but I got my first Trust, so I think I should be able to get by for a while at least.
It's still doing fine, it was never going to hold 5000 concurrent players, no private server can.
One problem was that
turned out people didn't actually want era rates and travel times.
this was a lie, they didn't use era rates, didn't use era movement/travel times, and nerfed/buffed jobs to suit their tastes instead of leaving things alone. It's good it exists and im glad people had fun with it but sadly it's not THE private server everyones been waiting for.
Probably hanging around like the other servers, they all suffer from the same issues of funding combined with poor management/admins that leads to shenanigans and drama.
>promise a ton of shit >not even half of the primised job changes made it in >killed bst just became morons were crying about them stealing camps >nerfed jobs for no reaon at all >market is a mess because of bots >tons of people got rich by week 1 because they fricked up fishing and crafting
>killed bst just became morons were crying about them stealing camps
Not surprising since the game world cant support so many people. Maybe its the boomer in me but I feel like even 1k people is too much. >tons of people got rich by week 1 because they fricked up fishing and crafting
That shit pissed me off.
They mega buffed BST both directly and indirectly and it needed to be fixed, they took too long to nerf it though. They touted their job changes as Era+, a way to rebalance the game and keep it fresh, but in the end all it turned out to be was them nerfing jobs they were jealous of and buffing the jobs they liked and wanted to feel special playing. It was all very heavy handed and seemingly done by someone who didn't understand 75 cap content and how each job affected those around it.
What we need is the back in the day zeitgeist, modern gamer mindsets are polluted and impure, we'll never recapture the feelings because we collectively are different now than we were back in the day. Its not the server its us.
I had a good time for awhile but the community at endgame kind of killed it for me. I expected turbo-autists but I was hoping there'd at least be a few voices of reason to level them out. Nope, all turbo-autists.
Back then it was pretty bad, but now the end-game is more accessible but the grind is still MASSIVE as well as the gil you need.
Honestly, it's laughable how SE approached leveling up all the gear and everything. It's just dumping hundreds of millions of gil into materials for each upgrade since farming them yourself would take literally months of working every day. Especially for the Empyrean items still, you still need thousands of heavy metal plates.
I remember one time there was some event where drops for items were increased for this NM spawning activity to get HMP, Voidwatch. I spent DAYS doing nothing but grinding voidwatch battles in The Shrine of Ru-Avitau, literally all day I sat there, spawned the monster with other people, we beat it and collected the drops. I maybe made like 100 or so heavy metal plates doing it all day for like 2-3 days. You need 1500 of them just to upgrade one single empyrean weapon. and that's just one step of like 20 steps you have to do for those fricking weapons.
That's the issue, all the late game content is locked behind a bunch of bullshit low level busywork grind. I can't remember which weapons it was but another one required you to grind these NMs in specific areas, and you had to kill each NM multiple times with the weapon, and some took HOURS to respawn, meaning you had to basically sit in a zone for a day or 2 just killing the same NM over and over again. To make matters worse some were lottery spawns, meaning you had to keep killing the other regular monsters to get the NM to spawn. Fricking nightmare of a grind that was so mind-blowingly boring to do.
That's why I'll never get back into FFXI. Shit like this just stops me. I had a well geared WHM, THF, SAM, SCH and WAR with all jobs mastered, but I never had the time to grind the ultimate weapons for them, especially WHM which you really need Yagrush for the hardest content in the game, or at least did at the time.
>one required you to grind these NMs in specific areas, and you had to kill each NM multiple times with the weapon, and some took HOURS to respawn,
magian trials, I remember doing that with some katana at one point to get a weapon skill
Unfortunately the actual XI players from back in the day are probably not taking part in private servers, what you end up with are private server born and bred players who are super autists and highly possessive and competitive about the game. People who only know the game through private servers think the game is all about progressing fast and being elitist, they never learned the game is actually about enjoying the journey over the reward.
At least you got to enjoy it for a while, I wouldn't personally worry about endgame anyway at this point.
>Competitive
But XI doesn't even have PvP. I don't understand why someone would look at this game of all things and think "Yes, this is the game I want to use as my competitive outlet".
FFXI did have PVP, multiple forms of it if I remember. Ballista was the most popular one, it was a team vs. team battlefield where you fought other players with a level cap. I used to play it all the time.
That's just how they are anon, they look back at people who actually played the game and say to themselves "I can prove to everyone I'm better than that" and take the game way too seriously. They treat leveling like a speedrun and endgame content like it's life or death, it's just how private servers are with their small communities and drama.
We... can never, ever go back. All the memories lost, all the friendships we had, gone. It's literally over.
For the record, I've tried playing FFXI multiple times over the years and it's just not the same. It's not that it's bad or anything, it's just the game is still a massive grind in the end-game content, but the thing is everything that made FFXI special when I played it when I was younger is now gone. My friendslist is empty, every single person I knew has moved on, even looking up their characters on FFXIAH they stopped playing over a decade ago.
Now the game's community is basically just the 5% or so of autists that continued to play after all these years, players that have multiple characters all decked out in the best gear yo can imagine, and mostly just sit around AFK doing not much at all.
The thing is I don't have the time in my life to play a game like this anymore anyways. It completely sucks the life out of you like a drug, and it's designed to eat up as much time as humanly possible to do even simple things. They made QoL improvements in a few places, teleports that are much easier to get around the world with being the first thing but still. Once you get leveled up, skilled up and begin the end game gear grinds it all takes so fricking long. There's wait times, limits on what you can do in a day, etc.
Last time I tried playing again was about a year ago, after not playing for about 3 years or so, and even the NEW friends I made during the last time I played were all gone again by then too, and the linkshell I was in had broken.
Still, just logging in and wandering around Bastok and the other zones brings back so many memories and so much nostalgia. Even if the world feels kind of dead, it still brings back such good times.
Is it still possible to play straight through it like FFXIV MSQ? I thought it was more like WoW and trying to play WoW in a cohesive story is impossible.
>Is it still possible to play straight through it like FFXIV MSQ?
Yes. The only difference is that the expansions aren't one linear story. It's more like a bunch of different branches that come together in the end. All the content is still there and it's all soloable on retail.
XIV is one long storyline whereas XI is many individual storylines that can be done in (almost) any order. On retail it would take you probably 2 months of playing to soundly get through all of them if you worked hard at it, retail also has many systems in place to make soloing a breeze, you never have to interact with another person if you don't want to.
If you really don't want to play then https://www.youtube.com/@FFXITheMovie I believe has most if not all cutscenes and story elements in video form.
There's tons of "FFXI, the movie" type videos for all expansions out there like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JoB3dRKkNak&pp=ygUPRkZYSSwgdGhlIG1vdmll
As well as by individual clip like https://www.youtube.com/@SStyle5/playlists?view=50&sort=dd&shelf_id=2
You don't.
zoomers can't handle it, even most millennials are too whiny and moronic to handle something as simple as "Yo, prepare yourself before you go level for a few hours".
You realize Millennials are the primary people that played FFXI right? I'm 35, I grew up playing this shit. Most Zoomers weren't even born when FFXI was released.
I do, I moderated a MMO forum at the time.
90% of those homies got filtered. They didn't want to group up with people, they just wanted to play by themselves (In an MMO!??!?!), and then complained that the game was "Hardcore".
It's only got worse since then, as they've been coddled by solo-focused Quest-based MMOs where it's literally impossible to die.
Asura has autists but its also the most alive. A lot of good people play there just you need to find them. And you will know who the autists are in one meeting. A good Dynamis-D turnout here is 12+ people. >Bahamut
Asura light but honestly way dead. A good Dynamis-D turn out here is 8 people. >Odin
JP ONRY literally
FFXI did have PVP, multiple forms of it if I remember. Ballista was the most popular one, it was a team vs. team battlefield where you fought other players with a level cap. I used to play it all the time.
It's actually still around in Asura. You don't hear advertising for it because some homosexual was malding because people left his shell when he himself was barely around to begin with. Not naming names.
Alright I’ll just go to Asuna, thanks. The intial update says an hour and a half left, so I’ll play tomorrow afternoon. Too sleepy to wait for it to finish
Alright I’ll just go to Asuna, thanks. The intial update says an hour and a half left, so I’ll play tomorrow afternoon. Too sleepy to wait for it to finish
As someone who has played on Asura I will say be ready for a LOT of spam in town, you may want to filter shout chat. You can also check on the bg wiki new player guide if you have any questions or feel lost at any point.
>Be noob WAR >Struggling to unlock sub >Monsters were a gear shit test >Couldn't make bank >Not even a part of a LS or know what that is >Higher level RDM in area >Ask him where to go >Uses quick chat speech bubbles to reply >Getting real upset at this game >{follow} >Stand there like a moron waiting for him to go somewhere >Decide to frick this and go level up MNK >Dudes following me >Maybe? >Fricker throws some buffs and heals me but makes me kill the monsters >Find the quest macguffin >Unlock ability to use sub >Dude dances then leaves me all alone >Die on my way out and teleport back to the Kingdom >Go to house >Speak to Moogle >MNK/WAR
Not my personal blog but that's one of the fondest memories I have of this game, that some high level dude took time out of whatever he was doing to protect some small fry like me and we couldn't even communicate, can't find shit like that in MMO's now.
That was one of the best things about the game, actually not a one off experience but rather the norm for how people acted. People were always open to helping random strangers.
Honestly it doesn't help that most MMOs are hostile that sort of thing inherently nowadays. Try to heal someone in combat? They now get 0 XP because you're tagged in combat with them. Try to buff them? Either the buffs won't do much or won't last long enough for them to do anything with it. Want to just give them old gear? Nope, everything's bound to your account.
In trying to fight power gamers they kind of just sucked the soul out of everything.
>Started playing in May of last year >Now I'm level 60 RDM scarred by countless deaths and cryptic quest lines >Whenever I pass some babby players or standing around cluelessly or getting their shit kicked in by a Mandragora or something I cast Protect III and Shell II on them >they don't know how to /tell so they just /say "thanks :)" >I /bow >"how do i do that" >Teach them, feel warm inside
I may not been able to experience this game in its heyday but I can say this game can be peak comfy even all these years later.
Yeah I only played XI for a short while when they had a 2 week free trial I think it was, met so many friendly players. I remember dying in the middle of nowhere, was just sitting there despairing when a Paladin comes by and rez'd me. Stuff like that made a strong impression on a new player in MMOs back in the day and was great motivation to work towards becoming a stronk max level epic geared player too.
Because you were younger and more impressionable, and since this has left a mark on you so firmly, nothing else will compare no matter how hard you look.
Ambuscade is pure cancer without knowing others to play with. I can only do the highest difficulty of the regular ambu (so 300 hallmarks currency) or VE of the intense ambu (200 hallmarks currency)
my man, just level up WHM and find a group to do VD / ID with. That's what I used to do. This applies to almost all endgame content too, as WHM is one of the few jobs where you don't need to be ultra-well geared to do high level content. Doesn't take too long to gear up WHM. That said, it is a job where you have to actually have some degree of skill / attention to what's happening in order to do it properly as if your attention fades for a second bad shit happens.
Game is unironically dead and there's no way to revive it other than fusing the subs with ffxiv and get some players from it. But Yoshi is too much of a israelite to do that.
NTA, but I've been thinking of picking up WHM for that reason. My LS is dead, so if I want to play I'll need to find some groups to play with. Though, I'm much further along and have several mastered and decently geared jobs. Still, WHM might be fun for a change of pace. It seems like keep track of status effects/debuffs on everyone would be a pain though.
It's not too bad. and honestly last time I looked at a WHM guide a few months ago the gear hasn't changed all that much in the last few years.
It's actually a pretty fun job though, and it gives you access to content that you otherwise wouldn't have access too without the best gear in the game. and there's always a need for WHMs, there's no other job that effectively replaces what you do not even SCH.
I sleep next to a sealed copy of chains of promathia for PS2 each night
Prishe my love we will never be apart. Not even time and distance can keep us. You may be an elvaan and I may be a non-jp player but our love is eternal.
there's a discount campaign coming up i recommend transferring to either odin or bahamut, maybe even a smaller server if you can find a LS that has a decent chunk of people active! 🙂
well there's not really any specific list, but the general idea can be gained here
https://www.ffxiah.com/database
take this with a heavy grain of salt, because people have more than 1 character and the servers listed with 0 are also not accurate. I know for a fact some of those servers listed as 0 have 100-200 on them.
>the servers listed with 0 are also not accurate
The servers that are listed with 0 active characters are all defunct, merged into another server in either 2010 or 2011.
i play on odin and i get invs to jp groups if i use auto translate. it's fun. i also play in an EN shell and we grind capacity points and exemplar points together for newbies who need it/alt jobs. i don't really know why people say it's impossible to group or do anything.
always keep in mind asura *is* the biggest, which also means it is stuffed to the brim of mercs, bots, spark farm bots, gil sellers, and cheaters. if you choose one of the other populated servers you will not have to deal with that, at the cost of a lower playerbase
>at the cost of a lower playerbase
Which also affects the Auction House volume, which isn't insignificant. On Phoenix, I might have to wait a while if an item I need isn't being sold.
this has worked to my advantage on odin, i actually make decent money selling basic ores lol JPs seem to need iron ore and elm logs for stuff, not sure what but they sell daily
but then i would have to deal with asuras morons and i just got away from them. it would also increase RMT exponentially as they only really bother selling on the NA biased servers since NIP HONORU prevents them from RMTing
>walk into zone >blackscreen >join pt >pt bugs and person has to force close and wait 10 min >go to claim NM >70 people waiting for the pop >go try and farm crawlers >70 people farming the 3 crawlers as BST >get into functional pt after 4 hours >BST camps on top of you >scout another zone >3 BSTs already there >try and get pt to go to era+ camp >"no it's less xp/hr" >get into BCNM >bugged >try and do missions >bugged, blackscreen when leaving >get chocobo in lower jeuno >blackscreen, forced off of chocobo >enjoy job devs don't play >nerfed >give up and go mining >mining bots everywhere, mafia controlling non-botted nodes >give up and start fishing >fshbots tanking prices of everything except moat carp >try synthing >day 1 exploiters controlling the market on LB crafts
Admit it. You bought gil. There's no shame in it just admit it. I was a gilbuyer. I spent hundreds of dollars of my parents money buying gil to my delivery box.
>2004 in high school >Sitting at lunch with other losers / outcasts >one kid brings up FFXI tells me I should play it >never played ff games before, but had a PS2 >a few weeks / months pass, in NYC with parents on vacation (lived in PA about 1.5 hours away) >in TRU times square >massive FFXI PS2 display on the bottom floor, boxes stacked up on each other >mesmerized by the size of the box and the images on the back >get mom to get it for me >tell kid at lunch table I got FFXI and ask him what I should do >tells me to go on Fairy server, make a mithra character >get home and boot up the PS2 and figure everything out with the HDD / Ethernet >spend hours installing this shit with POL and finally get online >make a mithra, meet up with the kid from school he's a mithra too >realize playing a cat is gay as frick and tell him I want to be an elvaan instead and go to sandoria because it was a cool castle and not gay forest >gets mad at me, I delete my character and just go make an elvaan instead
years later I realize he was probably a furgay, I never really played the game with him either after that. Can't even remember if I stayed friends with him at all I probably moved lunch tables.
During a recent FF16 event he answered a question about crossovers, as people were expecting something between 16 and 14, and his response was something to the tune of "What about Vanadiel?". What intrigues me is that he specifically said Vanadiel and not FF11, which one would assume he would say because who the frick knows what Vanadiel is unless they played 11.
The chance of merged subs happening moved from 0.01% to 0.02%
Honestly I'd take it, they've been ignoring and pillaging the game for material to copy paste into 14 for so long they are almost obligated to do something in return for 11. I can't see them shutting down the servers though unless something fricking enormous happens, surely the game still makes them a fair bit of cash and they put almost nothing back into it.
I can't see a way the game isn't profitable and they still shut it down.
if they shut xi down and just vored the world i would unironically never pay for an FF mmo ever again, and I say that as someone who's played XIV since 1.0. I fricking HATE the homosexuals who's first FF game was 14 constantly begging them to shove every FF game into 14 so they can act like they played it.
XI has already been absorbed, they just haven't officially recognized it. Bro at least half the enemy models in the game are straight rips from XI and the story, well..
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I always thought XIV was just an alternate XI universe.
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i know, I hate what 14 has normalized in the series. Every entry should be unique, just like sakaguchi always envisioned after 5. I cannot stand the constant stream of plot points, characters, areas, and themes ripped 1:1 from other games in the series in XIV anymore. I like the original aspects of eorzea and I hate that they take a backseat to nostalgia wanking now.
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Sakaguchi fricking loves XIV though
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It is what it is, I just don't like the literal copy paste of enemies, models, and other things into the game, actual PS2 models made 20 years ago.
The environments in XI were always so fun to explore because they tried to make them feel natural, enemy placement, monster families, regions, they didn't just slap shit down they thought about where they put it. To see the monsters just tossed around randomly, shit aint right.
That's retail, with the only hard part being getting through late SoA, RoV, and TVR. And that's mainly because of the grind required for the "leveling after leveling" stat boosts. Hell, TVR REQUIRES you to get a Primal Weapon to continue.
Retail is the easiest way to play through the story as the entire game has been re-designed to be solo friendly. Private servers generally try to peel back these solo concepts and make the game more like what it was in the old days and that makes the game harder to progress though.
why would you want to do a private server for just the story when you can do that on the retail version? a private server would mean you need groups to do all the content, good luck getting a group together to do all those fricking story missions that would require it, and good luck with the tough battles on those level capped servers.
retail allows you to get to do the story as you level up with your job, and allows you to use trusts as your party members to heal / do skillchains and whatnot with the story bosses. That's how you should experience it if you want to do that.
FFXI won't be shut down as long as it's making money. As far as I can tell it probably has at least several hundred THOUSAND players still active paying a subscription each month. That's like minimum a couple million dollars in money coming into SE every month from FFXI, and if you include all the add ons, mog wardrobes and other stuff you have to pay for you're looking at the average player probably paying close to or over $20 per month to sub to FFXI. So let's say there's like 200k active subs still, idk how accurate that is, but it's still 4 million dollars to pay for the server upkeep / a small staff / mods, etc and make some profit over it. Seems pretty feasible to me. I'm willing to bet FFXI is still making a few million in profit each month.
the current estimated minimum $/mo is on the FFXIAH site and it's assuming there's 0 people paying for wardrobes or multiple accounts and it's something like 128k minimum monthly
XI gays are still seething that FFXIV is the superior game. >better soundtrack >better aging visuals >the best villain of all FFs and video games >best RPG cast >best mmo combat >best raids >best dungeons >best overworld themes
>bro i'll give you this IP just make the same but for phones >you mean card game with pay2win elements? >NO YOU DUMB FRICK
Why even give it to nexon? The well known company that likes to frick everything up.
I like XIV, it's just not the same though. Mostly because I am an adult with a job and when I'm at home, I have to make much harder choices about how I'm going to spend my leisure time because I have so much less of it.
How do I get started on this in 2023?
Go to a private server like Eden or Horizon. avoid the official servers, they are dead and the only wienerroaches left are the bitter gays who never got over XIV/WoW taking most everyone away.
You don't, you missed the ferry to selbina and there not to be another.
>missed the ferry to selbina
Everyone's in Mhaura now anyways.
CatseyeXI is really the only good private server out there right now.
https://store.na.square-enix-games.com/en_US/product/442968/final-fantasy-xi-free-trial-pc-download
Go to the official servers, you can start whenever you want in any way you want. These days you can get npc party members to level with. There is still group content, but it's all at the end of the game. You can progress through the rest of it at whatever pace you like.
As fun as the golden days of group leveling were, not having to shout in Jeuno for an hour and a half just to take a 20 minute airship ride to a party that disbands 5 minutes later is a welcome change.
>group content
how many of those "groups" are just one guy autistically controlling his own party of bots? Don't lie to the guy.
Good news, single person multi-box parties only effect that one person. You can still find groups to do most things in the game that need them.
>You can still find groups to do most things in the game that need them.
Good luck with that when most people want you to be geared up already with a REMA to do the content that you get your gear from.
Yeah, I think people group the human interaction memories with the actual game too much. Still remember my LS quoting Azumanga Daioh when it was fairly new and some taru always talking about wanting a mithra tail to tickle his prostate
How much did you learn about Japanese culture?
No blind invites, you had to introduce yourself first.
They call their bathrooms water closets, "wc brb".
They always knew a secret exp camp at any level.
They also love women with big hips.
I got invited to a JP LS once.
You were godlike at your job or you knew Japanese and were fun to be around or both.
I learned I liked playing with them far more than the average NA gay on 14 these days.
Yet modern internet makes me fear for the day when they truly open cross-world visits. Americans infesting Japanese servers with ease just sounds like hell.
>tfw always been a DRG main
>tfw I played FFXI as a stupid teenager, didn't like leveling WAR, and went DRG/MNK for over a year
The waits I endured were legendary.
Wait until next month for the anniversary campaign, you should be able to pick up the complete edition for 10bux. Don't listen to private server gays, retail is still the best way to experience this game in the modern era since you won't have any nostalgia for how it worked in the early 2000s anyway.
Don't give SE a fricking dime.
https://horizonxi.com/
FFXIV is the far superior game. Go play that one moron!
EverQuest vs WoW. You wouldn't get it.
Good as the game might be, FFXIV is too loud to be put in the same camp as FFXI. Doesn't quite hit the 'relaxing' vibe XI or WoW has.
boring game senpai
Install windower, keep a quest journal outside of the game, and don't rush.
>keep a quest journal outside of the game
You mean the wiki opened on a browser or what?
he means get a notebook, it does make it more fun can confirm
No, either a physical or digital journal of quests you receive, the person/location you got it from, and what they want. The quest log only tells you the name of the quest and a short description, but no specifics from the quest dialogue. You could look them up on the wiki, but where's the fun in that?
>You could look them up on the wiki, but where's the fun in that?
I could totally find the fun in searching a tiny spot in a large area but you literally get no indication. The spot can be in the otherside of the world and in top of that it doesn't even glow. You literally have to get near and cycle between the targets to get the invisible spot. It's just sadistic at that point.
That's soul anon, soul....
If you're going to make me find a needle in a gigantic world at least make it glow a little...
It does but not in the way you'd expect, the glow is asking others with help finding it and making a friend on the trip out there to click on it.
Oh yeah, use the wiki for stuff you can't find, but I'd very much suggest keeping a journal as a checklist for items or locations, or pieces of dialogue that seem useful.
Solo offline mode when?
Already exists, its great, just download LSB.
What is LSB?
wtf is LSB
https://github.com/LandSandBoat/server
neat
horizonxi.com
free private server to play on. regularly has 2500+ online
no one asked
>Solo offline mode when?
That isn't retail?
Online games used to be about wonder, that's why they encouraged players from all over the world to come together despite language differences and had mechanics focusing on communication and just being part of the world.
People today have lost the wonder of online play, being able to talk to someone across the globe is taken from granted and people just care about latency and checking off boxes. MMOs have taken too much design input from mobile games to maximize your addiction with things like daily quests and limited time items, which ironically makes modern MMOs feel much more like a "job" than older ones despite the reduced time investment.
Can I solo through the whole story? I don't care about endgame and making friends
The story and questing sucks and no one likes it.
Liar.
Yes although you're likely to have trouble with the very end of Adoulin and Rhapsodies unless you have a decent job and high tier trusts.
So guys in this game do people actually do anything or do they leave it to the plugins and add-ons? because I feel everyone just idle and don't know how to win in end-game fights
Old FFXI had background from FF8 and character menu :3
Because you're older, and nothing will ever compete with an MMO you played when you were young
That's probably true, but FFXI was also different in general. For years, I've tried talking to people about MMOs, but it always feels like they're talking about a different genre entirely to me.
So how many people work in this game? is it still online as a joke? why it's getting shitty updates?
Is job mastery supposed to take a fricking millennium? I've been grinding job points at one of the gates areas and the fact I need, what is it like 2100 of these total to master it is insane. This is like 75 cap era grind tier. I estimate 23-27 days of grinding to get to job master, are people just doing this some other way that's faster? It's just me and my trusts beating up apex mobs
Did you finish the storyline RoEs for the capacity point boost? If not, start there.
I did all of them besides seekers of adoulin because it was boring as frick, the rest yes
Finish Seekers, you'll also get a nice ring for your troubles.
There is nothing to do in the game after RoV except mastering jobs for no reason or doing ambuscade again for no reason because there is no new content
bro, your d.dyna?
There's The Voracious Resurgence.
The game is completed so now you can do everything and say you finished it.
I started playing retail recently. Can I get by starting as WHM then have RDM as my sub job for offensive magic? Haven't found anyone to play with yet and I can't play much, but I got my first Trust, so I think I should be able to get by for a while at least.
Because you will never be a teenager with nothing better to do than sit on your game and grind the night away
You're missing that time, not the game
Not OP, but my nightshift hours are 90% nothing. So other than the occasional problem, I still have the time to grind the night away.
how come every mithra player is an butthole?
>horizon is quickly dying
what went so wrong???
turned out people didn't actually want era rates and travel times.
It's still doing fine, it was never going to hold 5000 concurrent players, no private server can.
One problem was that
this was a lie, they didn't use era rates, didn't use era movement/travel times, and nerfed/buffed jobs to suit their tastes instead of leaving things alone. It's good it exists and im glad people had fun with it but sadly it's not THE private server everyones been waiting for.
>it's not THE private server everyones been waiting for.
that server exits though, its catseye
What about eden formerly kupo? What happened to it?
Probably hanging around like the other servers, they all suffer from the same issues of funding combined with poor management/admins that leads to shenanigans and drama.
>promise a ton of shit
>not even half of the primised job changes made it in
>killed bst just became morons were crying about them stealing camps
>nerfed jobs for no reaon at all
>market is a mess because of bots
>tons of people got rich by week 1 because they fricked up fishing and crafting
>killed bst just became morons were crying about them stealing camps
Not surprising since the game world cant support so many people. Maybe its the boomer in me but I feel like even 1k people is too much.
>tons of people got rich by week 1 because they fricked up fishing and crafting
That shit pissed me off.
They mega buffed BST both directly and indirectly and it needed to be fixed, they took too long to nerf it though. They touted their job changes as Era+, a way to rebalance the game and keep it fresh, but in the end all it turned out to be was them nerfing jobs they were jealous of and buffing the jobs they liked and wanted to feel special playing. It was all very heavy handed and seemingly done by someone who didn't understand 75 cap content and how each job affected those around it.
>mega buffed
they were shit compared with everything else at 75
Yes they were OP at low levels but who the frick cares about low level content?
FFXI with retail QoL minus trust is the perfect experience that we will never get.
>with retail QoL
>minus trust
Nah, unless you can find about 15,000 extra people to play it so I can find a party faster than 4 hours of shouting
That's what i was refering too. We would need the back in the day population and that's never happening.
What we need is the back in the day zeitgeist, modern gamer mindsets are polluted and impure, we'll never recapture the feelings because we collectively are different now than we were back in the day. Its not the server its us.
Games used to be made for people who enjoyed them BY people who enjoyed them. It's a miracle FFXI was ever made and nothing like it will exist again.
Unironically stop making threads about FFXI, this shit gives me depression.
I was playing on Horizon and made it to 75. Stopped playing when the devs went full moron and started killing all the job changes they promised
I had a good time for awhile but the community at endgame kind of killed it for me. I expected turbo-autists but I was hoping there'd at least be a few voices of reason to level them out. Nope, all turbo-autists.
Back then it was pretty bad, but now the end-game is more accessible but the grind is still MASSIVE as well as the gil you need.
Honestly, it's laughable how SE approached leveling up all the gear and everything. It's just dumping hundreds of millions of gil into materials for each upgrade since farming them yourself would take literally months of working every day. Especially for the Empyrean items still, you still need thousands of heavy metal plates.
I remember one time there was some event where drops for items were increased for this NM spawning activity to get HMP, Voidwatch. I spent DAYS doing nothing but grinding voidwatch battles in The Shrine of Ru-Avitau, literally all day I sat there, spawned the monster with other people, we beat it and collected the drops. I maybe made like 100 or so heavy metal plates doing it all day for like 2-3 days. You need 1500 of them just to upgrade one single empyrean weapon. and that's just one step of like 20 steps you have to do for those fricking weapons.
That's the issue, all the late game content is locked behind a bunch of bullshit low level busywork grind. I can't remember which weapons it was but another one required you to grind these NMs in specific areas, and you had to kill each NM multiple times with the weapon, and some took HOURS to respawn, meaning you had to basically sit in a zone for a day or 2 just killing the same NM over and over again. To make matters worse some were lottery spawns, meaning you had to keep killing the other regular monsters to get the NM to spawn. Fricking nightmare of a grind that was so mind-blowingly boring to do.
That's why I'll never get back into FFXI. Shit like this just stops me. I had a well geared WHM, THF, SAM, SCH and WAR with all jobs mastered, but I never had the time to grind the ultimate weapons for them, especially WHM which you really need Yagrush for the hardest content in the game, or at least did at the time.
Anon that isn't classic 75 cap content, that's zombie XI content.
>one required you to grind these NMs in specific areas, and you had to kill each NM multiple times with the weapon, and some took HOURS to respawn,
magian trials, I remember doing that with some katana at one point to get a weapon skill
Unfortunately the actual XI players from back in the day are probably not taking part in private servers, what you end up with are private server born and bred players who are super autists and highly possessive and competitive about the game. People who only know the game through private servers think the game is all about progressing fast and being elitist, they never learned the game is actually about enjoying the journey over the reward.
At least you got to enjoy it for a while, I wouldn't personally worry about endgame anyway at this point.
>Competitive
But XI doesn't even have PvP. I don't understand why someone would look at this game of all things and think "Yes, this is the game I want to use as my competitive outlet".
FFXI did have PVP, multiple forms of it if I remember. Ballista was the most popular one, it was a team vs. team battlefield where you fought other players with a level cap. I used to play it all the time.
That's just how they are anon, they look back at people who actually played the game and say to themselves "I can prove to everyone I'm better than that" and take the game way too seriously. They treat leveling like a speedrun and endgame content like it's life or death, it's just how private servers are with their small communities and drama.
Also XI does have multiple PVP modes.
We... can never, ever go back. All the memories lost, all the friendships we had, gone. It's literally over.
For the record, I've tried playing FFXI multiple times over the years and it's just not the same. It's not that it's bad or anything, it's just the game is still a massive grind in the end-game content, but the thing is everything that made FFXI special when I played it when I was younger is now gone. My friendslist is empty, every single person I knew has moved on, even looking up their characters on FFXIAH they stopped playing over a decade ago.
Now the game's community is basically just the 5% or so of autists that continued to play after all these years, players that have multiple characters all decked out in the best gear yo can imagine, and mostly just sit around AFK doing not much at all.
The thing is I don't have the time in my life to play a game like this anymore anyways. It completely sucks the life out of you like a drug, and it's designed to eat up as much time as humanly possible to do even simple things. They made QoL improvements in a few places, teleports that are much easier to get around the world with being the first thing but still. Once you get leveled up, skilled up and begin the end game gear grinds it all takes so fricking long. There's wait times, limits on what you can do in a day, etc.
Last time I tried playing again was about a year ago, after not playing for about 3 years or so, and even the NEW friends I made during the last time I played were all gone again by then too, and the linkshell I was in had broken.
Still, just logging in and wandering around Bastok and the other zones brings back so many memories and so much nostalgia. Even if the world feels kind of dead, it still brings back such good times.
Is BST a good job if I want to solo level to 99 chillin and listening to music?
On retail any job is for soloing and relaxin.
Any way to experience the story without having to play the game? I'd settle for shitty lets plays.
kys
>Any way to experience the story without having to play the game?
The game isn't even hard to play if you're just doing the story.
Is it still possible to play straight through it like FFXIV MSQ? I thought it was more like WoW and trying to play WoW in a cohesive story is impossible.
>Is it still possible to play straight through it like FFXIV MSQ?
Yes. The only difference is that the expansions aren't one linear story. It's more like a bunch of different branches that come together in the end. All the content is still there and it's all soloable on retail.
XIV is one long storyline whereas XI is many individual storylines that can be done in (almost) any order. On retail it would take you probably 2 months of playing to soundly get through all of them if you worked hard at it, retail also has many systems in place to make soloing a breeze, you never have to interact with another person if you don't want to.
If you really don't want to play then https://www.youtube.com/@FFXITheMovie I believe has most if not all cutscenes and story elements in video form.
There's tons of "FFXI, the movie" type videos for all expansions out there like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JoB3dRKkNak&pp=ygUPRkZYSSwgdGhlIG1vdmll
As well as by individual clip like https://www.youtube.com/@SStyle5/playlists?view=50&sort=dd&shelf_id=2
You don't.
zoomers can't handle it, even most millennials are too whiny and moronic to handle something as simple as "Yo, prepare yourself before you go level for a few hours".
You realize Millennials are the primary people that played FFXI right? I'm 35, I grew up playing this shit. Most Zoomers weren't even born when FFXI was released.
I do, I moderated a MMO forum at the time.
90% of those homies got filtered. They didn't want to group up with people, they just wanted to play by themselves (In an MMO!??!?!), and then complained that the game was "Hardcore".
It's only got worse since then, as they've been coddled by solo-focused Quest-based MMOs where it's literally impossible to die.
Is Bahamut a good server choice? I heard Asuna is cancer and Odin is too dead
Asura has autists but its also the most alive. A lot of good people play there just you need to find them. And you will know who the autists are in one meeting. A good Dynamis-D turnout here is 12+ people.
>Bahamut
Asura light but honestly way dead. A good Dynamis-D turn out here is 8 people.
>Odin
JP ONRY literally
It's actually still around in Asura. You don't hear advertising for it because some homosexual was malding because people left his shell when he himself was barely around to begin with. Not naming names.
Alright I’ll just go to Asuna, thanks. The intial update says an hour and a half left, so I’ll play tomorrow afternoon. Too sleepy to wait for it to finish
And why am I saying Asuna I meant Asura sorry
As someone who has played on Asura I will say be ready for a LOT of spam in town, you may want to filter shout chat. You can also check on the bg wiki new player guide if you have any questions or feel lost at any point.
is that Ganker LS on phoenix still around?
Yes, but dead. I'm hoping the discount campaign next month (?) will reinvigorate it. Not sure if the EU guys still play or not.
I'm playing retail FF11 with my buddies from 20 years ago, and we're having a blast every Monday night.
>Be noob WAR
>Struggling to unlock sub
>Monsters were a gear shit test
>Couldn't make bank
>Not even a part of a LS or know what that is
>Higher level RDM in area
>Ask him where to go
>Uses quick chat speech bubbles to reply
>Getting real upset at this game
>{follow}
>Stand there like a moron waiting for him to go somewhere
>Decide to frick this and go level up MNK
>Dudes following me
>Maybe?
>Fricker throws some buffs and heals me but makes me kill the monsters
>Find the quest macguffin
>Unlock ability to use sub
>Dude dances then leaves me all alone
>Die on my way out and teleport back to the Kingdom
>Go to house
>Speak to Moogle
>MNK/WAR
Not my personal blog but that's one of the fondest memories I have of this game, that some high level dude took time out of whatever he was doing to protect some small fry like me and we couldn't even communicate, can't find shit like that in MMO's now.
That was one of the best things about the game, actually not a one off experience but rather the norm for how people acted. People were always open to helping random strangers.
Honestly it doesn't help that most MMOs are hostile that sort of thing inherently nowadays. Try to heal someone in combat? They now get 0 XP because you're tagged in combat with them. Try to buff them? Either the buffs won't do much or won't last long enough for them to do anything with it. Want to just give them old gear? Nope, everything's bound to your account.
In trying to fight power gamers they kind of just sucked the soul out of everything.
Another issue is mercing and selling runs, it's infected every MMO and taken a serious toll on XI.
>Started playing in May of last year
>Now I'm level 60 RDM scarred by countless deaths and cryptic quest lines
>Whenever I pass some babby players or standing around cluelessly or getting their shit kicked in by a Mandragora or something I cast Protect III and Shell II on them
>they don't know how to /tell so they just /say "thanks :)"
>I /bow
>"how do i do that"
>Teach them, feel warm inside
I may not been able to experience this game in its heyday but I can say this game can be peak comfy even all these years later.
where are u playing?
Bahamut
ah RIP was gonna see if we could join up in a linkshell, cool you're still enjoying the game though
Yeah I only played XI for a short while when they had a 2 week free trial I think it was, met so many friendly players. I remember dying in the middle of nowhere, was just sitting there despairing when a Paladin comes by and rez'd me. Stuff like that made a strong impression on a new player in MMOs back in the day and was great motivation to work towards becoming a stronk max level epic geared player too.
>Early era FFXI
>Being a THF in Valkurm waiting for parties
Man that shit was something special (special hell)
>return
>LS is dead
>join a nee LS
>stop playing
>repeat
This is my FFXI story since 2009
im still waiting for a single player remake so I can finally play it
Because you were younger and more impressionable, and since this has left a mark on you so firmly, nothing else will compare no matter how hard you look.
Cherish the memories
Is this a song?
No, but throw a chitzy pop synth behind it and it's a good bridge to a chorus
Ambuscade is pure cancer without knowing others to play with. I can only do the highest difficulty of the regular ambu (so 300 hallmarks currency) or VE of the intense ambu (200 hallmarks currency)
This is fricking gayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
my man, just level up WHM and find a group to do VD / ID with. That's what I used to do. This applies to almost all endgame content too, as WHM is one of the few jobs where you don't need to be ultra-well geared to do high level content. Doesn't take too long to gear up WHM. That said, it is a job where you have to actually have some degree of skill / attention to what's happening in order to do it properly as if your attention fades for a second bad shit happens.
>and find a group to do VD / ID with.
literally fricking how
when I used to play years ago usually people would shout for groups for ambuscade. I played on Asura. It's been a while since I played though.
I have seen exactly 0 shouts for anything ambuscade in the 1 month i have been back
Game is unironically dead and there's no way to revive it other than fusing the subs with ffxiv and get some players from it. But Yoshi is too much of a israelite to do that.
NTA, but I've been thinking of picking up WHM for that reason. My LS is dead, so if I want to play I'll need to find some groups to play with. Though, I'm much further along and have several mastered and decently geared jobs. Still, WHM might be fun for a change of pace. It seems like keep track of status effects/debuffs on everyone would be a pain though.
It's not too bad. and honestly last time I looked at a WHM guide a few months ago the gear hasn't changed all that much in the last few years.
It's actually a pretty fun job though, and it gives you access to content that you otherwise wouldn't have access too without the best gear in the game. and there's always a need for WHMs, there's no other job that effectively replaces what you do not even SCH.
>not playing support jobs with the best equipment from rmt gil
Usually people look for support or tank for ambu
I sleep next to a sealed copy of chains of promathia for PS2 each night
Prishe my love we will never be apart. Not even time and distance can keep us. You may be an elvaan and I may be a non-jp player but our love is eternal.
Did you play the GBF collab bro?
Now im tempted to get back into retail, thanks
there's a discount campaign coming up i recommend transferring to either odin or bahamut, maybe even a smaller server if you can find a LS that has a decent chunk of people active! 🙂
where is the list of server populations ?
well there's not really any specific list, but the general idea can be gained here
https://www.ffxiah.com/database
take this with a heavy grain of salt, because people have more than 1 character and the servers listed with 0 are also not accurate. I know for a fact some of those servers listed as 0 have 100-200 on them.
>the servers listed with 0 are also not accurate
The servers that are listed with 0 active characters are all defunct, merged into another server in either 2010 or 2011.
https://www.ffxiah.com/database
Sort by active.
Asura is the biggest server, almost 14k active players. Then Odin, then Bahamut. The other servers are mostly dead.
Dont join asura its full of chinese and cheaters
My character is on bahamut, i think i only got to around level 20 WAR and reached the pirate beach
i play on odin and i get invs to jp groups if i use auto translate. it's fun. i also play in an EN shell and we grind capacity points and exemplar points together for newbies who need it/alt jobs. i don't really know why people say it's impossible to group or do anything.
always keep in mind asura *is* the biggest, which also means it is stuffed to the brim of mercs, bots, spark farm bots, gil sellers, and cheaters. if you choose one of the other populated servers you will not have to deal with that, at the cost of a lower playerbase
>at the cost of a lower playerbase
Which also affects the Auction House volume, which isn't insignificant. On Phoenix, I might have to wait a while if an item I need isn't being sold.
this has worked to my advantage on odin, i actually make decent money selling basic ores lol JPs seem to need iron ore and elm logs for stuff, not sure what but they sell daily
Why don't they just merge the fricking servers. It'd be like classic population XI again
but then i would have to deal with asuras morons and i just got away from them. it would also increase RMT exponentially as they only really bother selling on the NA biased servers since NIP HONORU prevents them from RMTing
I like living in the country and I don’t want homosexual neighbors
If you aren't playing Horizon right now you are basically moronic.
>walk into zone
>blackscreen
>join pt
>pt bugs and person has to force close and wait 10 min
>go to claim NM
>70 people waiting for the pop
>go try and farm crawlers
>70 people farming the 3 crawlers as BST
>get into functional pt after 4 hours
>BST camps on top of you
>scout another zone
>3 BSTs already there
>try and get pt to go to era+ camp
>"no it's less xp/hr"
>get into BCNM
>bugged
>try and do missions
>bugged, blackscreen when leaving
>get chocobo in lower jeuno
>blackscreen, forced off of chocobo
>enjoy job devs don't play
>nerfed
>give up and go mining
>mining bots everywhere, mafia controlling non-botted nodes
>give up and start fishing
>fshbots tanking prices of everything except moat carp
>try synthing
>day 1 exploiters controlling the market on LB crafts
Thank you /xig/ doomposter.
I got buffed sis
What job do I level first if my goal for main job is BST?
I would wonder why you want to play BST
Admit it. You bought gil. There's no shame in it just admit it. I was a gilbuyer. I spent hundreds of dollars of my parents money buying gil to my delivery box.
i haven't, if i ever thought about it id just quit
>2004 in high school
>Sitting at lunch with other losers / outcasts
>one kid brings up FFXI tells me I should play it
>never played ff games before, but had a PS2
>a few weeks / months pass, in NYC with parents on vacation (lived in PA about 1.5 hours away)
>in TRU times square
>massive FFXI PS2 display on the bottom floor, boxes stacked up on each other
>mesmerized by the size of the box and the images on the back
>get mom to get it for me
>tell kid at lunch table I got FFXI and ask him what I should do
>tells me to go on Fairy server, make a mithra character
>get home and boot up the PS2 and figure everything out with the HDD / Ethernet
>spend hours installing this shit with POL and finally get online
>make a mithra, meet up with the kid from school he's a mithra too
>realize playing a cat is gay as frick and tell him I want to be an elvaan instead and go to sandoria because it was a cool castle and not gay forest
>gets mad at me, I delete my character and just go make an elvaan instead
years later I realize he was probably a furgay, I never really played the game with him either after that. Can't even remember if I stayed friends with him at all I probably moved lunch tables.
Good choice
Take me back..... take me back........... take me the frick back bros.... I hate modern times so fricking much.
how does it feel knowing the cloud of darkness may have been vanquished in vanadiel, but it's all consuming malevolence persists in the real world?
Yoshi you fricking chink. Merge the subs with ffxiv and merge the fricking servers.
During a recent FF16 event he answered a question about crossovers, as people were expecting something between 16 and 14, and his response was something to the tune of "What about Vanadiel?". What intrigues me is that he specifically said Vanadiel and not FF11, which one would assume he would say because who the frick knows what Vanadiel is unless they played 11.
The chance of merged subs happening moved from 0.01% to 0.02%
Holy based Yoshi PLEASE do something with Vanadiel. Give us a Vanadiel Raid Tier.
dont expect anything other than vanadiel being a shard of etheirys and FFXI getting shut down. that's what im expecting, at least.
Honestly I'd take it, they've been ignoring and pillaging the game for material to copy paste into 14 for so long they are almost obligated to do something in return for 11. I can't see them shutting down the servers though unless something fricking enormous happens, surely the game still makes them a fair bit of cash and they put almost nothing back into it.
I can't see a way the game isn't profitable and they still shut it down.
if they shut xi down and just vored the world i would unironically never pay for an FF mmo ever again, and I say that as someone who's played XIV since 1.0. I fricking HATE the homosexuals who's first FF game was 14 constantly begging them to shove every FF game into 14 so they can act like they played it.
XI has already been absorbed, they just haven't officially recognized it. Bro at least half the enemy models in the game are straight rips from XI and the story, well..
I always thought XIV was just an alternate XI universe.
i know, I hate what 14 has normalized in the series. Every entry should be unique, just like sakaguchi always envisioned after 5. I cannot stand the constant stream of plot points, characters, areas, and themes ripped 1:1 from other games in the series in XIV anymore. I like the original aspects of eorzea and I hate that they take a backseat to nostalgia wanking now.
Sakaguchi fricking loves XIV though
It is what it is, I just don't like the literal copy paste of enemies, models, and other things into the game, actual PS2 models made 20 years ago.
The environments in XI were always so fun to explore because they tried to make them feel natural, enemy placement, monster families, regions, they didn't just slap shit down they thought about where they put it. To see the monsters just tossed around randomly, shit aint right.
The XI devs said XI will literally never shutdown as long as they can help it. It's still free money for SE.
SE has always made really stupid decisions but I'm happy they still leave the XI servers up and don't go after private servers.
>tfw that map of FF16 looks suspiciously like the vanadiel map
I just want to play ff11 for the story. Is there a private server that makes progressing through the story easy?
nothing that has everything. your only option for that is retail or youtube.
In retail you can play alone for the story. It takes forever tho.
That's retail, with the only hard part being getting through late SoA, RoV, and TVR. And that's mainly because of the grind required for the "leveling after leveling" stat boosts. Hell, TVR REQUIRES you to get a Primal Weapon to continue.
Retail is the easiest way to play through the story as the entire game has been re-designed to be solo friendly. Private servers generally try to peel back these solo concepts and make the game more like what it was in the old days and that makes the game harder to progress though.
why would you want to do a private server for just the story when you can do that on the retail version? a private server would mean you need groups to do all the content, good luck getting a group together to do all those fricking story missions that would require it, and good luck with the tough battles on those level capped servers.
retail allows you to get to do the story as you level up with your job, and allows you to use trusts as your party members to heal / do skillchains and whatnot with the story bosses. That's how you should experience it if you want to do that.
FFXI won't be shut down as long as it's making money. As far as I can tell it probably has at least several hundred THOUSAND players still active paying a subscription each month. That's like minimum a couple million dollars in money coming into SE every month from FFXI, and if you include all the add ons, mog wardrobes and other stuff you have to pay for you're looking at the average player probably paying close to or over $20 per month to sub to FFXI. So let's say there's like 200k active subs still, idk how accurate that is, but it's still 4 million dollars to pay for the server upkeep / a small staff / mods, etc and make some profit over it. Seems pretty feasible to me. I'm willing to bet FFXI is still making a few million in profit each month.
the current estimated minimum $/mo is on the FFXIAH site and it's assuming there's 0 people paying for wardrobes or multiple accounts and it's something like 128k minimum monthly
I don't know if it has 200k but it definitely has way more than I thought it would, logged back in recently and there are piles of people all over.
Then why it's always quiet?
People talk in linkshell chat, if you're on odin, japanese players are very quiet
XI gays are still seething that FFXIV is the superior game.
>better soundtrack
>better aging visuals
>the best villain of all FFs and video games
>best RPG cast
>best mmo combat
>best raids
>best dungeons
>best overworld themes
i like both though
What drives a human to enter a thread just to tell lies for (You)s. How derenge you have to be?
cope harder. XI and WoW gays are the worst. Because they can't stand that XIV kills them both.
Both are good though?
Should it have existed?
Sure, why not?
nope, it would've shut down really quickly and took xi with it
>bro i'll give you this IP just make the same but for phones
>you mean card game with pay2win elements?
>NO YOU DUMB FRICK
Why even give it to nexon? The well known company that likes to frick everything up.
there's someone in my linkshell who pays $210/mo for FFXI. they RMT too... what the frick? anyone spending shit like that is absolutely poor as frick
It was your first and you will be chasing that dragon forever.
i still like both if these abd XIV, THOUGH
I like XIV, it's just not the same though. Mostly because I am an adult with a job and when I'm at home, I have to make much harder choices about how I'm going to spend my leisure time because I have so much less of it.
Why can't someone just make a simple fun PSO game anymore? Sure I can go back and play that one, but I've done everything.
These kind of games won't work nowadays. People have too low attention span and life eats all time.