>FFXIII flops. >FFXV is widely disliked. >FF7R only sells 5M copies despite impossibly high anticipation

>FFXIII flops
>FFXV is widely disliked
>FF7R only sells 5M copies despite impossibly high anticipation
What happens to CBU1 if FFXVI out performs all of these considering that FFXIV is already carrying the company?. If I were Kitase, Nomura, Nojima or Toriyama I'd be pretty fucking nervous and maybe even hoping that XVI bombs. We all know no one is going to buy any more of the FF7 remake.

  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Reminder Sakaguchi hates those guys and wanted Matsuno as his successors. He saw their worth when doing the PSX FF games.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Sakaguchi hates those guys and wanted Matsuno as his successor
      Did he really? Sauce?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        He hand picked Matsuno for FF12 and always gushes about him in interviews. Meanwhile he says nothing about Nomura or Toriyama and he's publically insulted Kitase.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          I dunno about matsuno as dev but as ceo he is really retard unless he is anus manipulated by old jap investors that survived the nukes and dont know shit about videogames

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          I wonder why Matsuno and Nomura never collaborated. He would have been perfect for the political conflict edgefest Versus was going to be since everyone says it was going to be "as fucked up as Tactics" and it even had a 12 writer who did the cutscenes in Vagrant Story and KH1.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            I say that and I just rememberd Matsuno left for health issues just as 12 was wrapping up which is why the end fell apart. Fuck my life.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I'm not aware of him saying anything to this effect but I'm sure he can't be thrilled about Kitase and Nomura immediately jumping onboard with the new CEO's philosophy of creating endless spinoffs and sequels with asset recycling. That was the core disagreement he had with the other heads. Then the movie happened and well. .the rest is history.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Reminder Sakaguchi hates those guys
      No he doesn't.
      >wanted Matsuno as his successors.
      No he didn't, that would be kitase.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Take his cock out of your mouth.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Sakaguchi loved nomura actually but he saw him a better fit for other projects. He's responsible for giving nomura Kingdom hearts and supporting him through the development of the first game even though he was on the way out already.

      You're right that he wanted Matsuno & co. to head final fantasy going forward though.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        No wonder he was the best ideas guy at 7 and managed to cut kitashe of a polemic crappy rape moment of rynoa in ff8

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Fun fact: Nomura wasn't even supposed to direct KH1.

        Streets say it was Hiroki Chiba who directed an ur-Gummi Ship game called Dynamitracer for the Satellaview under Nomura who made the concept before the two worked more closely on FF7, of which Nomura said many of the younger devs like himself and Chiba. But then all the core staff on 1 said "BAWWWW NOMURA SHOULD DIRECT BAWWWWWWWWWWW" and then now we have t h i s. Sakaguchi still liked what Nomura made though and said he didn't have to play it to know Nomura made a fun game.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          And by streets I mean b4k lul

          5 mil as of Aug 2020

          And on one platform four months just after it launched. Damn.

          You don't understand anon, if Square aren't giving constant updates about sales then it means it isn't selling. Just like how KH3 is also at 5 mil- ACK

          After so long this motherfucker dropped why he likes 15 so much. Want me to say it? I've said it once and I'll say it again but I ask for your consent.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >I've said it once and I'll say it again but I ask for your consent.
            Sure go ahead, I must have missed this bit of Barry lore

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >no i love xv for its characters and having the freedom to explore and just stumble upon a dungeon with a strong boss at the end or actually having a sense of the world and its places and the lore actually happening in character dialog and cutscenes and in world items, not like ff13 where its only in a datalog
              >inb4 but 15 has a datalog too!
              >yeah added months after release and which just recaps info already told to you in the story or in dialog
              >13 has no sense of place, the is no sense of a world, the characters have a terrible dynamic which even after 3 games still doesn't work or feel fleshed out while the bros have easily the strongest dynamic of any ff and are extremely fleshed out even in just half the game.

              It has a story! It has a world to explore! The characters talk and talk to each other and you can use them to fight enemies! Wow!

              No wonder Nomura resents the world turning on him and his vision of a relevant (i.e. good) Final Fantasy. All the FF15 audience wants are empty sensations of interacting and understanding an imagined reality without enduring the uncomfortable work to get to that satisfaction. And look Forspoken has it complete with Whedon-tier dialogue. To think, it's being made by the rest of the KH2 team not working on 7R.

              This is the gaming market now. Not a single desire for meaningful action in sight, just vibes.
              Sometimes I look back on b4k and think to myself holy fuck how did I write this? But I did sans greentext, of course.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >To think, it's being made by the rest of the KH2 team not working on 7R.
                Jesus, that's upsetting to think about. I can only hope that if Forspoken is now "complete" and being "polished" for the next 5 months that means the talented folk have been given the chance to move onto something else rather than being dragged into QA.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                As much as I would like to say that enjoy baiting him by using his narrative against Barry by saying that I can't help but think that it's true. Tokyo Team would rightfully have zero interest working on an open world game after the mess that was XV, but apparently Tabata had other plans and his team has to pick up his slack. Nomura meanwhile has his groove again as NEO shows. One of the 7R battle designers from the Tokyo Team moved to work on that game.

                That aside whatever talent should have been used on Type-Next and future KH games is now left gathering his leftovers that is this MCU quip game that of all things two days ago ended up vindicating a fucking Stellafag writeup.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                wrong nomura wanted versus to be "open world" just as much as xv is "open world" which is to say neither are fully open world but a mix of a large seamless map and linear sections that requires loads.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >requires loads
                Loads? Loads of what?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                loading of the game

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                wow that version of FFXV sounds pretty good, i wish the actual one they released was like that
                >13 has no sense of place, the is no sense of a world
                this is true though

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >wow that version of FFXV sounds pretty good, i wish the actual one they released was like that
                It's really telling that people like FF15 because it gave them hollow bing bing wahoos. One other weird fanboy with even weirder English fluency said the same thing and doubled down. He said Versus would make him uncomfortable because it was too edgy and complicated. He also hated KH combat

                Should I post this very very very cursed and also disappointing /second/ Luminous Studio shill?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                go for it. schizo poster lore is better than FFXV lore

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Politics or romance in a story alone don't make a game good just from the premises.
                >Nomura has tried many times, with the Kingdom Hearts, to create pseudo love bonds, but with mixed results and even disastrous in others...
                >Trying to imagine something, starting from the basis of a simple concept, is to believe that everything goes smoothly, it will not be what it turns out to be the sum of the parts.
                >It has never been with any AAA games, not even the most famous ones.
                >And it certainly wouldn't have been for Versus either.
                >If I have to say what did not convince me?
                >The edgy style of how detached or emotionless Nomura's characters were throughout most of the trailers.
                >The fact that he was trying to awkwardly imitate Kingdom Hearts with the command bar, when he really didn't need it.
                >(moreover, not being original at all)
                >And above all the division into parts of his mind, in this project.
                >That with the times of him, it would have been comparable to the disaster he is making with Final Fantasy VII Remake. And now look where the FFVII Remake Part 2 is....
                >With priority issues like graphics, Nomura got burned.
                >(and now, with kh4, it he dosen't care even of Verum Rex in the end)

                In short words Versus made this guy uncomfortable because it was ambitious, tried to say things, had Kingdom Hearts combat and it had a message.

                He continued:
                >But I still enjoyed Final Fantasy 15
                >Precisely because it's a roadtrip game

                Nomura valued on the road trip just as much as his 'muh real world issues' story, but it was successful because all that mattered were cheap imitations of attacks and emotions sans meaning.

                I've said it once and I'll say it again, FF15 fans make me pine for a faceplant. More bullshit in pic. Jesus Stellafag would hate this guy and he's already tried to reason with Barry in TWEWY threads

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >wow that version of FFXV sounds pretty good, i wish the actual one they released was like that
                It's really telling that people like FF15 because it gave them hollow bing bing wahoos. One other weird fanboy with even weirder English fluency said the same thing and doubled down. He said Versus would make him uncomfortable because it was too edgy and complicated. He also hated KH combat

                Should I post this very very very cursed and also disappointing /second/ Luminous Studio shill?

                >Politics or romance in a story alone don't make a game good just from the premises.
                >Nomura has tried many times, with the Kingdom Hearts, to create pseudo love bonds, but with mixed results and even disastrous in others...
                >Trying to imagine something, starting from the basis of a simple concept, is to believe that everything goes smoothly, it will not be what it turns out to be the sum of the parts.
                >It has never been with any AAA games, not even the most famous ones.
                >And it certainly wouldn't have been for Versus either.
                >If I have to say what did not convince me?
                >The edgy style of how detached or emotionless Nomura's characters were throughout most of the trailers.
                >The fact that he was trying to awkwardly imitate Kingdom Hearts with the command bar, when he really didn't need it.
                >(moreover, not being original at all)
                >And above all the division into parts of his mind, in this project.
                >That with the times of him, it would have been comparable to the disaster he is making with Final Fantasy VII Remake. And now look where the FFVII Remake Part 2 is....
                >With priority issues like graphics, Nomura got burned.
                >(and now, with kh4, it he dosen't care even of Verum Rex in the end)

                In short words Versus made this guy uncomfortable because it was ambitious, tried to say things, had Kingdom Hearts combat and it had a message.

                He continued:
                >But I still enjoyed Final Fantasy 15
                >Precisely because it's a roadtrip game

                Nomura valued on the road trip just as much as his 'muh real world issues' story, but it was successful because all that mattered were cheap imitations of attacks and emotions sans meaning.

                I've said it once and I'll say it again, FF15 fans make me pine for a faceplant. More bullshit in pic. Jesus Stellafag would hate this guy and he's already tried to reason with Barry in TWEWY threads

                why are you samefagging?
                nomura lost and is a hack and also nothing you say defending him or your fanfic will ever be true

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                yeah nomura sucks. ffxv is still terrible tho

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >the rest of the KH2 team
                There is no Team Tokyo anymore. Sadly, they were the only reason to play high-profile Square games.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                you've posted this copy pasta a billion times now stellafag
                kys already
                nomura lost

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Stellafag
                Whofag?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                a retarded nomurafag spouting headcanon fanfic lies about se devs and development history

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                As I recall the only reason Stellafag exists is because of you and that Zeal guy. Then he dipped lol

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >go to sakaguchi's twitter
      >nonstop ffxiv screenshots
      https://twitter.com/auuo

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        That because Matsuno is helping Sakaguchi learn how to play XIV anon. Yoshi-P is a noted Matsunofag like I said earlier.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          It's over.

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    XVI will flop.
    We already know VII Rebirth is gonna sell millions.
    You lost.

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >FF7R only sells 5M copies despite impossibly high anticipation
    Well then maybe they should have sold a full game or an actual remake instead of a shitty sequel. That's what they get for false advertising.

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >FFXIII flops
    You should speak softly when talking about FFXIII, XIV chud. If it wasn't for it and its sequels the blunder when first releasing your shit and having to remake it would have killed Square. FFXIII literally saved the company and now you want to call it a flop.

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    FFXV is the most beloved FF and the best selling FF ever.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous
      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Makes me want to replay FF15. For as shit as it was, it had some weird charm to it. The flying car was also hilarious.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Cope

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >easy automatic difficulty for 7R

          >autist is clearly pressing TWO buttons with R1+O and still gets hit taking damage while having wait mode on and using one of the strongest base game regular weapons in the game Durandal with elemental advantage against one of the weakest grunt mob enemies in the entire game while having a full 5 member party
          You will literally die if you try that.

          Meanwhile FF7R is one button action and has a mode that requires no buttons to win

          ?t=554

          >Kitase: This is one button action.

          >playing XV like shit on purpose

          >normal difficulty and endgame dungeon for XV

          and?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >autist is clearly pressing TWO buttons with R1+O and still gets hit taking damage while having wait mode on and using one of the strongest base game regular weapons in the game Durandal with elemental advantage against one of the weakest grunt mob enemies in the entire game while having a full 5 member party
        You will literally die if you try that.

        Meanwhile FF7R is one button action and has a mode that requires no buttons to win

        ?t=554

        >Kitase: This is one button action.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Thats low level Gameplay barry retard

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            no thats what actually holding one button does and you die dumb nathan chud

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          why are you guys sperging about difficulty for ff?
          they are all literally braindead easy compared to any wrpg released around the same time
          hell i played ff6 in fast forward speed the entire time outside of reading and it was fine just mashing a during encounters and chainsaw+spell in boss fights

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      lolololol
      SE themselves admitted XV hurt the franchise's reputation. Your garbage game managed to be even more divisive than XIII, and that's hilarious given it rebranded itself just to get away from XIII's stigma.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        no they didn't they saved it raised the ff series higher and it keeps selling better than any ff and has higher fan reception than any ff and won more awards than your dogshit mmo

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      based

      stay btfo retard

      >easy automatic difficulty for 7R

      [...]
      >playing XV like shit on purpose

      [...]
      >normal difficulty and endgame dungeon for XV

      and?

      this is hardmode retard
      literally 1 button to win 7R
      that clip is literal holding 1 button like you claimed you can do and shows you will die trying
      dumb fuck

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The guy on the second from the left next to Nomura is Yusuke Naora who left after XV. Toriyama is the flower fondler in pic.

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >doa pisstation 5 flop
    >outselling anything
    lmoa

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    What went wrong with XVI? Why doesn't anyone want it?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      xv killed interest.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      The girls are boring

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      even forspoken gets more views than ff16

      xv killed interest.

      FFXV is so bad I won't even watch another FF trailer.

      xv saved FF and 16 killed it by being the blandest shit ever

      Luminous bros...

      ff16chuds...

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    FFXV is so bad I won't even watch another FF trailer.

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    YOSHI-P sirs???

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yoshi-P, a Matsunofag, called 7R's combat a masterpiece and the part of the KH team that presumably didn't work on 15, 7R, or KH3 invaluable when he had them.

      That said a lot of younger KH devs worked on 7R and the veterans seem to have vanished. Could they be working on 16 too? Where's that Tokyo Team anon guy?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Yoshi-P, a Matsunofag, called 7R's combat a masterpiece
        Meanwhile FF XVI doesn't even have a party. He's just like Nomura who says that his favorite Disney character is Oswald the Rabbit but he never appears in any of the KH games Nomura directed, not even mobile one. I'd take everything they say with a grain of salt.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Its a Barry thread anon, ignore
          When nobody replies to the his threads he will sometimes make false flag threads so he can defend FFXV honor against imaginary people
          That or its Barry bait, which is just as annoying

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >who says that his favorite Disney character is Oswald the Rabbit
          His favorite character is Simba.
          >but he never appears in any of the KH games
          Because Disney said no.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Luminous bros...

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Poor barry. Tabata got fired. KH is still going. FFXIV is keeping Square alive. No one even remembers FFXV. FFXVI is the most anticipated game in Japan for weeks in a row on Famicom. How is he gonna survive?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      tabata left se on his own terms
      kh is being forced to continue against nomuras will
      xiv is dying and made less in 5 years than xv made in 1 month
      xv keeps outpacing the sales of every ff and being the best selling ff
      nobody even plays 14 more people played fucking octopath than endwalker
      xv literally won those same famitsu polls constants in famitsu

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >tabata left se
        was fired
        >kh is being forced to continue against nomuras will
        He said a decade ago that he planned on continuing kh after kh3
        >xv keeps outpacing the sales of every ff
        still being outsold by VII and X.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          left

          Tabata left on his own choice and even recently stated he could have stayed at SE if he wanted but chose to take a risk in leaving.

          >Famitsu: I can't wait to hear more about what all you get up to in the future. Just to clarify, both sides of JP GAMES, the social contribution arm and the game development side, are equally important, right? One isn’t the main business and the other a side one?

          >Tabata: Right. I went independent precisely because I felt that I could pursue both of those things. If I could only do one, I don't think I would have left and carried all of the risk that comes with it.
          https://www.famitsu.com/news/202108/27229245.html

          Literally says he left and took a risk doing so and that he wouldn't have left if he only wanted to do one thing, no one who was "fired" is taking a risk you seething fuck.

          If you think he was fired then Terada, Aramaki, nakazawa and all the other lead devs on XV who were directors of the DLC and stuff throughout 2017 and 2018 wouldve been "fired" too but literally all of them got promoted to higher positions within luminous productions, Tabata left on his own choice.

          meanwhile nomura was fired from ffxv and forced to make kh against his will
          he literally said he wouldnt have made kh3 if he couldnt get toy story approved so he doesn't even want to make it

          lmao nope xv sold more in 5 years than 7 and 10 sold in 5 years so xv is selling better than those when comparing their release timespans

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Tabata left on his own choice
            fired
            >forced to make kh against his will
            He keeps making them because he likes doing it
            >so he doesn't even want to make it
            that's bargaining with disney to get the deal done, not saying he didn't want to do it.
            >when comparing their release timespans
            yet 7 and 10 still sold more.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              left

              Tabata left on his own choice and even recently stated he could have stayed at SE if he wanted but chose to take a risk in leaving.

              >Famitsu: I can't wait to hear more about what all you get up to in the future. Just to clarify, both sides of JP GAMES, the social contribution arm and the game development side, are equally important, right? One isn’t the main business and the other a side one?

              >Tabata: Right. I went independent precisely because I felt that I could pursue both of those things. If I could only do one, I don't think I would have left and carried all of the risk that comes with it.
              https://www.famitsu.com/news/202108/27229245.html

              Literally says he left and took a risk doing so and that he wouldn't have left if he only wanted to do one thing, no one who was "fired" is taking a risk you seething fuck.

              If you think he was fired then Terada, Aramaki, nakazawa and all the other lead devs on XV who were directors of the DLC and stuff throughout 2017 and 2018 wouldve been "fired" too but literally all of them got promoted to higher positions within luminous productions, Tabata left on his own choice.

              meanwhile nomura was fired from ffxv and forced to make kh against his will
              he literally said he wouldnt have made kh3 if he couldnt get toy story approved so he doesn't even want to make it

              lmao nope xv sold more in 5 years than 7 and 10 sold in 5 years so xv is selling better than those when comparing their release timespans

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                spamming is a bannable offense you know.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Then you should be banned for these

                >no i love xv for its characters and having the freedom to explore and just stumble upon a dungeon with a strong boss at the end or actually having a sense of the world and its places and the lore actually happening in character dialog and cutscenes and in world items, not like ff13 where its only in a datalog
                >inb4 but 15 has a datalog too!
                >yeah added months after release and which just recaps info already told to you in the story or in dialog
                >13 has no sense of place, the is no sense of a world, the characters have a terrible dynamic which even after 3 games still doesn't work or feel fleshed out while the bros have easily the strongest dynamic of any ff and are extremely fleshed out even in just half the game.

                It has a story! It has a world to explore! The characters talk and talk to each other and you can use them to fight enemies! Wow!

                No wonder Nomura resents the world turning on him and his vision of a relevant (i.e. good) Final Fantasy. All the FF15 audience wants are empty sensations of interacting and understanding an imagined reality without enduring the uncomfortable work to get to that satisfaction. And look Forspoken has it complete with Whedon-tier dialogue. To think, it's being made by the rest of the KH2 team not working on 7R.

                This is the gaming market now. Not a single desire for meaningful action in sight, just vibes.
                Sometimes I look back on b4k and think to myself holy fuck how did I write this? But I did sans greentext, of course.

                >Politics or romance in a story alone don't make a game good just from the premises.
                >Nomura has tried many times, with the Kingdom Hearts, to create pseudo love bonds, but with mixed results and even disastrous in others...
                >Trying to imagine something, starting from the basis of a simple concept, is to believe that everything goes smoothly, it will not be what it turns out to be the sum of the parts.
                >It has never been with any AAA games, not even the most famous ones.
                >And it certainly wouldn't have been for Versus either.
                >If I have to say what did not convince me?
                >The edgy style of how detached or emotionless Nomura's characters were throughout most of the trailers.
                >The fact that he was trying to awkwardly imitate Kingdom Hearts with the command bar, when he really didn't need it.
                >(moreover, not being original at all)
                >And above all the division into parts of his mind, in this project.
                >That with the times of him, it would have been comparable to the disaster he is making with Final Fantasy VII Remake. And now look where the FFVII Remake Part 2 is....
                >With priority issues like graphics, Nomura got burned.
                >(and now, with kh4, it he dosen't care even of Verum Rex in the end)

                In short words Versus made this guy uncomfortable because it was ambitious, tried to say things, had Kingdom Hearts combat and it had a message.

                He continued:
                >But I still enjoyed Final Fantasy 15
                >Precisely because it's a roadtrip game

                Nomura valued on the road trip just as much as his 'muh real world issues' story, but it was successful because all that mattered were cheap imitations of attacks and emotions sans meaning.

                I've said it once and I'll say it again, FF15 fans make me pine for a faceplant. More bullshit in pic. Jesus Stellafag would hate this guy and he's already tried to reason with Barry in TWEWY threads

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >both posts have only been posted once in this thread
                please don't shift the blame of you spamming the thing over and over again onto others
                you were wrong, time to move on.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Dont try to backpedal

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                You were proven wrong though.

                >posts that are from days ago
                You need to stop blaming your spamming ITT on others.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >n-no I'm not spamming the board with copy pasta ignore that copy pasta i keep spamming!?
                Holy fucking cope.
                Nomurafags on suicide watch.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >I'm not spamming the board with copy pasta

                left

                Tabata left on his own choice and even recently stated he could have stayed at SE if he wanted but chose to take a risk in leaving.

                >Famitsu: I can't wait to hear more about what all you get up to in the future. Just to clarify, both sides of JP GAMES, the social contribution arm and the game development side, are equally important, right? One isn’t the main business and the other a side one?

                >Tabata: Right. I went independent precisely because I felt that I could pursue both of those things. If I could only do one, I don't think I would have left and carried all of the risk that comes with it.
                https://www.famitsu.com/news/202108/27229245.html

                Literally says he left and took a risk doing so and that he wouldn't have left if he only wanted to do one thing, no one who was "fired" is taking a risk you seething fuck.

                If you think he was fired then Terada, Aramaki, nakazawa and all the other lead devs on XV who were directors of the DLC and stuff throughout 2017 and 2018 wouldve been "fired" too but literally all of them got promoted to higher positions within luminous productions, Tabata left on his own choice.

                meanwhile nomura was fired from ffxv and forced to make kh against his will
                he literally said he wouldnt have made kh3 if he couldnt get toy story approved so he doesn't even want to make it

                lmao nope xv sold more in 5 years than 7 and 10 sold in 5 years so xv is selling better than those when comparing their release timespans

                left

                Tabata left on his own choice and even recently stated he could have stayed at SE if he wanted but chose to take a risk in leaving.

                >Famitsu: I can't wait to hear more about what all you get up to in the future. Just to clarify, both sides of JP GAMES, the social contribution arm and the game development side, are equally important, right? One isn’t the main business and the other a side one?

                >Tabata: Right. I went independent precisely because I felt that I could pursue both of those things. If I could only do one, I don't think I would have left and carried all of the risk that comes with it.
                https://www.famitsu.com/news/202108/27229245.html

                Literally says he left and took a risk doing so and that he wouldn't have left if he only wanted to do one thing, no one who was "fired" is taking a risk you seething fuck.

                If you think he was fired then Terada, Aramaki, nakazawa and all the other lead devs on XV who were directors of the DLC and stuff throughout 2017 and 2018 wouldve been "fired" too but literally all of them got promoted to higher positions within luminous productions, Tabata left on his own choice.

                meanwhile nomura was fired from ffxv and forced to make kh against his will
                he literally said he wouldnt have made kh3 if he couldnt get toy story approved so he doesn't even want to make it

                lmao nope xv sold more in 5 years than 7 and 10 sold in 5 years so xv is selling better than those when comparing their release timespans

                Yes that's what you're doing ITT

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Those are direct response to specific retarded statements by your which debunk your shitpost with objective facts and literal quotes from the party involved, which you're still in fucking denial about 4 years later.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >specific retarded statements
                >copypastad and spammed
                nah
                >with objective facts
                lies aren't facts
                >which you're still in fucking denial about 4 years later.
                reminder that
                >tabata was fired
                >xv is now ranked outside of the top 10 final fantasy games since the recency bias wore off
                >XV was seen as detriment to the final fantasy brand by Square Enix themselves
                >tabata's paralympics game was canned after only 6 months
                >forspoken has been delayed twice. Once because it was in rough shape and the second because square enix and sony didn't have faith in it to do well in its own release date
                >tabata's new game has been MIA for over 2 years now
                meanwhile
                >kh3 is the highest selling game in the franchise
                >7remake saved SE's fiscal year since Avengers bombed
                >Nomura is still a respected figure in the gaming industry while tabata can barely get a game out on a console
                These are the facts and they WILL make you upset.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                nope you were debunked by facts and literal quotes BTFOing you
                XV has won more awards than ff14 and is outpacing the sales of every FF
                xv has higher fan reception than any ff when averaging all userscores
                SE said XV raised the FF brand higher
                khdr was cancelled
                ff7r ps4 was cancelled
                ff7r tifa chapter cancelled
                kh0.5 cancelled
                kh xehanort console game cancelled
                ff7r ps4 dlc cancelled
                ff7r delayed twice
                kh3 delayed twice
                ff16 delayed 3 times
                kh4 and 7r 2 already delayed a bunch
                Forspoken only got a second delay because sony forced them to, the game is basically done
                yoshitpisses new IP was cancelled
                chad tabata has the twewy co director and agni designer join his company and has 2 new major games in development with major companies with one being revealed later this year
                kh3 bombed and sold less than ffxv
                7r bombed and sold less than half of xv
                neo twewy bombed and sold less than og twewy
                sop bombed and is among the lowest selling ff ever
                nomura is hated by the majority while tabata respected
                nomurafag not even director of 7r part 2 he was phased out because he can't fucking direct lmaooo
                they had to get the ffxv writer to write kh4 because nomura is incompetent
                nomura keeps losing
                ff16 has no hype
                yoshitpiss keeps losing
                Forspoken getting more engagement than 16 or 7r 2 or kh4 lmao
                imagine losing to forspoken a brand new ip lol

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                If we lose and Forspoken is a sales success what are we and Nomura supposed to do then? Answer that

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                stop breathing

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Wait you want Nomura gone??????????

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >nope you were debunked by facts
                lies
                >XV has won more awards than ff14
                Yet less than 7remake
                >higher fan reception
                cherrypicking metacritic is not a high bar. Especially when you have to count pages with only 10 reviews on them
                >SE said XV
                They said people didn't want to watch XVI's trailer because XV disappointed them so much.
                >khdr was cancelled
                Its coming out later this month
                >because sony forced them to,
                Because Sony wasn't confident in the game either.
                >chad tabata has the twewy co director
                The same guy who wanted all of the product placement in XV, he can keep him.
                >has 2 new major games in development with major companies with one being revealed later this year
                Each month goes by and this still hasn't happened.
                >kh3 bombed
                Because you say so, doesn't mean it will ever be true. See below
                >7r bombed
                Square Enix says otherwise. See above
                >nomura is hated by the majority
                Only in your headcanon.
                >nomurafag not even director of 7r part 2
                I bet this took half an hour to type on your phone lmao
                >they had to get the ffxv writer
                they wrote other things besides XV.
                >nomura keeps losing
                >yoshitpiss keeps losing
                Must be why they still have jobs at a major company and tabata can't get sponsors or deals with other videogame companies.
                >Forspoken getting more engagement
                As a laughingstock.
                It will be the biggest flop SE has had since XIV 1.0.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Oh you're Nathan aka SBK91 the retard nomura cum guzzling gay
                You were debunked
                Yoshitpiss said he likes Ffxv and that people hate ff10 and ff11 and ff12 which is why they wont watch ff16 and also that ff16 looks so bland it has no appeal
                it was cancelled
                They are confident but have their own 1st party games releasing so they don't want them too close
                nope product placement came from nomura who said if we use real things it will feel more real
                TGS hasn't happened and neither has Jump Fest dumbass.
                SE said KH3 bombed and had weak additional sales
                SE said 7R bombed
                Only in reality
                Still coping because nomura was fired as THE director lmao
                they gave him a pity role kek
                literally the ffxv writer who had to then write neo twewy and kh4 so clearly nomura wanted the ffxv writer to write the games he's deeply involved in
                being corporate monkey slaves with no freedom and constantly getting their shit they were supposed to direct cancelled is not a positive
                chad tabata is ceo of his own company which other based SE devs joined because he's based
                literally everyone is saying it looks good and only the dialog not even made by the devs is cringe
                meanwhile everyone says everything in kh4 is cringe and 7r is cringe and nobody even cares about ff16 which is even worse...

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >literally the ffxv writer who had to then write neo twewy and kh4 so clearly nomura wanted the ffxv writer to write the games he's deeply involved in
                Wasn't Dissidia which is famously a Nomura project her first work?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                and then they wrote ffxv so clearly nomura loved their ffxv work that they wanted to work with them again despite the false narrative that nomura is angry at the changes in the story by the writers he's now hired twice since xv released.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >so clearly nomura loved their ffxv work
                They wrote on multiple nomura games before and after xv. One bad egg doesn't mean nomura liked their work on XV.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Oh you're Nathan aka SBK91
                I'm actually mageknight aka kagari
                >said he likes Ffxv
                said Fans hated it and was worried people wouldn't want to pick up XVI because of XV's reputation.
                >it was cancelled
                Literally coming out the 26th lol.
                >They are confident but have their own 1st party games releasing
                Not only are they not confident, they purposely delayed forspoken so it wouldn't get in GoW's way. Literally 2nd banana to an actual moneymaker.
                >neither has Jump Fest
                Square goes to Jump Fest, Tabata's company has no history there.
                >Still coping because nomura was fired as THE director lmao
                >they gave him a pity role kek
                If that's the case, tabata was fired as XV's director and was given a pity role as the producer for the dlc lmao.
                >literally the ffxv writer
                wrote before and after xv.
                >constantly getting their shit they were supposed to direct cancelled
                Sounds like tabata and his games. Cripplympics and Space whale just aren't going to cut it.
                >chad tabata is ceo of his own company
                There won't be a company much longer if he keeps fucking up.
                >literally everyone is saying it looks good
                The best you could find was one post with not even 40 likes lmao

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Oh you are SBK91 no wonder youre coping because nomura lost
                nope he said he likes ffxv and that it's a good game and said people say ff10 ff11 and ff12 are bad so they wont watch ff16
                literally was forced to end prematurely aka cancelled
                that literally means they have faith in it because they believe its such a big title that it releasing a month before gow would hurt gow
                indie devs goes to jump festa and tgs, you're coping and seething
                nope tabata was literally HEAD OF THE STUDIO lmao, he took himself off xv dlc because he wanted to promote the younger staff while he managed the entire studio and still producer
                meanwhile nomura was fired as director and isnt head of any studio...
                wrote ffxv so that means them writing ffxv was not against Nomura's wishes for the story changes since he kept specifically having them write things long after ffxv was out, debunking the whole narrative around how Nomura seeths over it
                nope the Paralympics ended so that game ended, he wanted to get started on his actual games too, meanwhile kh0.5 cancelled, kh xehanort console game cancelled, ff7r by cc2 cancelled, ff7r ps4 dlc cancelled, ff7r tifa chapter cancelled, khuxdr cancelled, ff16 ps4 cancelled, yoshitpisses new ip cancelled
                he literally posted profits despite having no game even up and running right now
                meanwhile nomura is losing SE money...
                You're coping and seething

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Oh you are SBK91
                I told you, I'm Zeal
                >nope he said
                XV hurt the brand
                >literally was forced to end prematurely
                They actually added more story during production and its why the final chapter has been delayed for over a year.
                >at literally means they have faith in it because they believe its such a big title that it releasing a month before gow would hurt gow
                More like GoW would canablize forspoken's sales.
                >indie devs goes to jump festa
                Major game publishers go to jump festa. And you just admitted JP games is indie. At best.
                >ope tabata was literally HEAD OF THE STUDIO
                He was also head of the studio when he was director. But then was fired from the directorial position
                >isnt head of any studio
                He said he doesn't want to be, because his job would be constrictive if it was.
                >wrote ffxv so that means them writing ffxv
                They wrote the two Dissidia games before XV and worked on TWEWY after XV. What they did on XV doesn't mean Nomura liked it.
                >nope the Paralympics ended so that game ended, he wanted to get started on his actual games too
                Must be why space whale is the only thing still going on
                >he literally posted profits
                Barely any profits from the paralympics game. And now they have no moneymaker.
                >meanwhile nomura is losing SE money.
                Blanket statements like this are curious
                Its funny the best twitter post you could now find is a tweet insulting Forspoken

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                How long does it take for a pasta to become a pasta?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                You post that but not the Barry Trigger or Bazzical Dreamers or Barry Cross? Sad!

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Oh shit is that the one with the grenade?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                that's ff14

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                The only reason why these stupid threads of praising and shitting on Nomura is your fault right? I'm so sick to death of these guys being propped up time and again not just by Square but by you Barry I'm serious go get help

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                You were proven wrong though.

  12. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    16 will be a bigger flop than 7R. It has near zero interest and anticipation in comparison to Rebirth if trailer views and discussions are anything to go by.

  13. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why would they care if the content creation account is shared among the devs? Is everything a console war to you trannies?

  14. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >>FF7R only sells 5M copies

    dude, you realize that sales figure IS TWO YEARS OLD at this point?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Last I'd heard it had sold over 100 million copies

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      No one bought it after the cat was out of the bag, anon. If it had smashed 10 million they'd be spamming about it on twitter.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Which is incidentally what FFXV sold after /six/ years. (Six years? Really?)

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Across PC, Xbox and PS.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      5 mil as of Aug 2020

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      You don't understand anon, if Square aren't giving constant updates about sales then it means it isn't selling. Just like how KH3 is also at 5 mil- ACK

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >only 1.7m sold since launch
        kh3 sales is pathetic and 6.7m in 3 years is terrible sales for the climax of a 20 year long running story arc

        And by streets I mean b4k lul

        [...]
        And on one platform four months just after it launched. Damn.

        [...]
        After so long this motherfucker dropped why he likes 15 so much. Want me to say it? I've said it once and I'll say it again but I ask for your consent.

        thats lower than xv sold on ps4 alone lmao.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      if 7r sold so well theyd update the sales every year like they did with ffxv and nier automata

  15. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >FF7R only sells 5M copies despite impossibly high anticipation
    Listen, I know it did sell, but those numbers are overblown, they can't be that many, I mean there weren't even 5 million copies of the game produced when these sales estimates were made

  16. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I want Nojima to die in a fire.

  17. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    FFVIIR probably lost AT LEAST one million sales through a mixture of consolegayry on PC and creating their """ethics""" board.
    >What would they have lost without the ethics board?
    Maybe 2K, tops. The activists are noisy, but they're a comparatively small group, most of them aren't customers, and most of the ones who are customers will say one thing and then do another. If everyone decided to start ignoring them right now, they'd probably be even less relevant than they were in the early 00s within five years.

  18. 2 months ago
    Anonymous
  19. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    XIV isn't carrying the company.
    Gacha is.
    People hated endwalker.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Barry thread.
      Barry falseflag.
      Barry replies.
      in short
      >he's here.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Report proves it chud

  20. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Havent they only announced XVI as PS5 only?
    It will flop.

  21. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    ff is just a wait-and-see, company is schizo, no way to know if they will make something good or terrible

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I think its pretty easy to predict when they haven't made anything good in 20 years.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      dead company
      they wont exist in 5 years

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        this time for realsies

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous
          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >he thinks first quarter results equals the whole fiscal year
            /v/irgins are so cute when they think they know what they're talking about!

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              its comparing previous years you fucking mongoloid
              they re slowing going into NFTs and if the sois dont buy it, its ogre
              only sony can save them

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >its comparing previous first quarter results from the previous years
                Yes it is! You cannot read graphs and thought you had something in your favor ha ha

  22. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    He's here. The Whispers are stuck in that other thread how are they not here yet? Hmmmmm........

  23. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    nomura was fired from ffxv lmao what a cuck

  24. 2 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      oh no no no nomurasisters...

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        samefagging in a dying thread is still pathetic bazzy

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          nomurasisters...Forspoken keeps mogging us...

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Forspoken
            Morbius
            Morbspoken

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              final morbtasy 7 morbirth

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >all the other videos they've uploaded recently are under 50k
            PFFFFFFFFFFF

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              And the most recent one has 3m views on a random monday mogging ff7r massive reveal hyped up for years
              oh no no no

  25. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    nice barry, another day,another shitty seething thread full of bullshit and missinformation

  26. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    so is this guy releasing a good game soon or what?
    it's been like 4 years since he was fired.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      He's going to release two games that improve the 15 and Type-0 formula. Do those games look like they will be good? Are the two past FF games I mentioned good? They're mediocre at best.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      nomura was fired from ffxv in 2013 and hesitation still malding
      chad tabata left SE two years after xv released and has new major games in development that have only been in development since 2021.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Just look at JP Games office. Is this where the next 'masterpiece' is going to be born? Lol.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Admittedly it does look sorta cozy. Do we know how the number of staff the company has?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah they're an indie studio collaborating with other big companies because there's only 50 people at JP games

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >collaborating with other big companies
          We're yet to see one.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Already confirmed they are.

  27. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Where are Jimbo and Barry going to get into a fucking schizo slapfight already? I want autusm blood to be spilled.

  28. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >3 million views on the trailer
    >less than 0.1% of people actually started following the twitter account afterwards
    >the people that did follow probably just did so in the hopes the account would post more cringe
    hahahah

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      3 million views is higher than 1.5m views
      ff7r2 hyped up for years lost to a random Monday recut of a year old forspoken trailer...

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I don't remember the part where FF7R2 got absolutely blown the fuck out in the replies.

  29. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Final Fantasy always was and always will be a mediocre title at best, since Squeenix prefers visuals over substance.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's the Call of Duty of JRPGs.

  30. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    why is he simping for flopspoken so hard? just because some XV devs are working on it?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Probably. At least when the team is dissolved and the engine is trashed we'll only need to put up with Tabata simping.
      So we have that to look forward to.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >So we have that to look forward to.
        Still waiting for those two games in collaboration with big companies to be properly revealed. So far JP Games has nothing.

  31. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Yes anons, these directors still totally have their positions because everything they have made in the past 10 years has bombed. You're absolutely right. Y'all are so smart and I'm basically retarded.
    Thank you for showing me the errors of my ways.

  32. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Entire thread is just twitter posts, youtube numbers, and unsubstantiated speculation spoken about as if it were truth
    What the fuck happened to this site?

    [...]

    Re-read the post and try again ESL-kun

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      You're in a Barry thread. Enjoy your stay.

  33. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    nothing happens
    sqeenix is nothing but dead games
    all you can do is hope sony can salvage whats left of this rotten corpse

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >sony can salvage
      HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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