no
ARR one got replaced because they replaced a lot of them in HW
Sian Blake took the role in HW, but she and her kids got murdered by her ex-husband, I think before 3.1 came out
After Sian died Eleanor Matsuura took over the role
Nothing to look forward to. Everyone was sticking around to see how the story would end, Yoship had the balls to end it on a somewhat high note. They're paying the price now since it will be a long time to build up the same impact as what started in 1.0 and concluded over a decade later.
About half the game played for the story component alone, and another chunk of the game's population considered it a critically important part of the game, so when it's gone it just leaves mechanics that everyone's seen a million times over. Improving PvP was a step in the right direction to creating renewable content, but savage raids haven't innovated and have even regressed since at least SB and arguably HW, Eureka and Bozja along with PotD/HoH only interest a smaller subset of the game, and things like savage dungeons came too late and in too minor of way to keep people coming back.
This.
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Luckily there is zelda this week and diablo early next month to keep me occupied for quite a while
6.4 is more of the same and I have 0 intetest in returning as none of my friends will either
They kinda fricked up by making Endwalker feel like the definitive ending to 14. I have zero interest now since like I said, it feels like the story to 14 has concluded. And any attempt to make a new plot seems lazy, out of nowhere, and like their milking the game.
I still think they should've had WoL be forced to take Hydaelin's place to sustain the world, you still go and fully destroy Zodiark during the story but Hydaelin is going to keep withering away to nothing unless someone infused with aether built up from belief by the people of an entire world steps in. The end would be WoL walking into the mothercrystal in the same way Zenos "possessed" Shinryu, and to mirror 1.0's end, your companions and the world can remember your actions, that you were there, and everything about you except for exactly who you were; trying to recall the face of the WoL just fails, and a lot of your minor, personal details can't be remembered.
However, just like Hydaelin before you, you still empower certain people in the world as Warriors of Light, and you live on through their legacy. After finishing 6.0, you get a phantasia to use and the story begins again with you entering your home city wearing a set of traveler's clothes and no one knows who you are or what you've done. You meet a new set of companions and occasionally get to see Thancred, Y'shtola, et al during your adventures but they're always distant to you and only interact with you as an acquaintance.
Post-6.0 brings you back to adventuring in a small way, and new players can begin the story from that point since everything after 6.0 only references the aftermath of what came before, not the story specifics. No need to jump off the deep end and have you unravel the 13th right away or still try to expand on the final days, everything is easing you in slowly with a new game+ redux that diverges to a new mystery and a new story to take part in.
I think a lot of people including myself are looking at 7.0 to see where they stand going forward. If content looks to be shit, I'll just sub at the start of the expack and in the x.5 patch
If it is some comfy exploration of a yet unkown continent with some scion buddies I'd be all over it. If they asspull a calamity or some creation ending thread I'd be mad. 'Muh stakes' homosexuals deserve the rope.
>If it is some comfy exploration of a yet unkown continent with some scion buddies I'd be all over it.
Genuinely, why go to yet another unknown land when there are so many gaps in known territory that we never got to fill?
So much potential to learn more about Gelmorra, about Mhach, Amdapor and Nym, explore more of the far east, Hingashi, explore stories about the Ala Mhigan royal family and whatever crazy stuff Theodoric was up to before van Baelsar accidentally his whole country, the Roegardyn islands, literally EVERYTHING in Ilsabard, the Burn, Matsuno Land where all the Tactics/XII countries sit, etc. etc. etc.
So many places full of holes that need filling, why go to yet another new place to add even more holes for a single expansion and never finish exploring satisfactorily?
I wouldn't mind expanding on existing territories either. Especially the far east beeds to feel more fleshed out. Point is I don't want another high stakes disaster journey.
The definitive shit ending with the most lamest final boss of all ff ( i know its a crappy tradition of ff) and character butchering and fujo pandering
Fair warning, if Pandemonium ends with more WoL wank & Elidibus swears to see their future through, I'm done. FF14 will be ethically irredeemable if no amount of death & suffering is too much to sacrifice for the WoL to exist, it will just be a game that panders to narcissists.
You are correct despite the fact Eureka was shit and bozja while a step in the right direction still wasn't super great regardless of the quality people will always b***h about what they do for the relic no matter what they do people will flip and hate it with all their being.
For real, does the encounter design feel worse this time around? Very few of the fights are actually enjoyable over the entire spectrum from ex dungeons to ultimate.
>Can't see shit >But only when its story convenient >ACKTULLY she has special aether vision now which is useful because the writers said so >Can still read books too so it's like nothing happened >Teleports to aetherial sea once again >Think surely she's even more messed up for pulling the same ARR stunt twice >Nope >*sips tea without spilling any of it*
Meanwhile Thancred needs cartridges constantly charged for him
im one those that think thancred should have died in shb. what the frick does he bring besides a tank trust? he can be replaced easy. now the fricking butthole is looking for more wars for the wol to fight in!?. what a fricking butthole.
Well, when everybody was recoiling from Meteion's big entrance, Thancred was the only one to get up and try to strike an actual blow. I think that's cool.
I don't know, there's an infinite number of things you can do with a living character, but not a lot you can do with a dead one. Saying "why is this person alive, they should have died" in most cases just seems shortsighted.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Not really shortsighted. i wish alisaie and graha tia were dead all the time.
They made it seem like he was gonna die at the end of his duel with Ran'jit. Which shouldn't have even happened considering he blocked his Gunblade with two fingers earlier in the expac.
the thancred, mifilia, ryne story was so boring. then the wol just kills ranjit easy because they needed an extra boss fight. what a waste of time. alisaie and that arc were so shit in 5.0
Alisaie and Feo Ul lusting over us was kino we'll never get back
1 year ago
Anonymous
alisaie really needs to frick off and get herself her own personality instead of latching on to alphinaud and being a loud c**t.
i want feo ul to be hildibrand/midgarsomr tier. the only people that see the wols true feelings are immortal dragons, mystery homies, schizo souls in the wol, and fairy queens.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>Get herself her own personality instead of latching onto Alphinaud
I agree
1 year ago
Anonymous
more but without alphanaud
1 year ago
Anonymous
more but give Alphinaud the breasts instead
1 year ago
Anonymous
more but without alphanaud
bros i want to tease alisaie by making her boobs expand so bad
I honestly just think Y'stola should have died in ARR. She is just a big fricking nothing. A useless character who hasn't done anything really and even when they are trying to do something interesting with her or flesh out her character into anything it just fails. She wasnt even interesting or good enough to have her own sacrifice speach.
>Doing Rival Wings tonight >Entire goddamn raid gets wiped at mid >Everyone goes for north tower after >Nobody uses mechs >Meanwhile blue team sends an entire legion of mechs thanks to getting mid to our south tower and nobody bothers to try to stop them >Simultaneously nobody is even on offense in Mechs, but somehow manage to get their north tower down to 4% >They bust through our south gate and again, nobody is stopping them >Everyone in chat: "lmao ez lose" "Just let them win guys" "yeah might as well just give up >There's still over 8 minutes left btw >quit match while our core is at 50% hp rather than take the L.
Lol lmao, if my team isn't going mid then I already know I got blizz matched with the shitters, I will try a little bit, but if they blitz through and break both towers then I'm just going to make the match shorter
>playing EO with my friends >doing arr relics >doing trials together for relic tomes >buying stuff from the moggle event >getting ready for the blu patch
What’s the problem?
I’ve played XIV since 1.0 beta/launch, cause it was my first MMO and I decided to stick with it. This online explosion with trannies in the game is just ridiculous. I don’t get it, something happened that everything just feels fake and off.
Nah. It’s cute anime girls that you’re able to make that caused all this. What the frick is a troony going to do in wow? Erp as a cutesy cow or a decomposing corpse?
>*pauses interrogation* >He twitched his fingers as he said yes. this indicates that he is possibly lying, or at the very least hes being deceiving. >*unpauses* >"I-" >*pauses interrogation* >He said I with a pause, that indicates potential lying or deception, no one says I like that without hiding something
Haven't played the game but my guess is that they didn't implement an impregnation feature. Also it seems to be a hive for trans groomers so there's that.
>so does lyse
I miss Lyse asking the obvious question the player is always thinking in order to further explain the story.
Nowadays everyone is just an open book the moment WoL says hi. Or they commit the worst offense and bring in a random secondary npc to have a conversation between themselves as WoL just eavesdrops
The story needs to go another planet and leave the other places of ours for side content, like what villains they could bring after Ascians, Allagans, Garlemalds and Dragons?
The only villain from the old lore they could bring will be an evil WoL from another shard
>hey, WoL, the lambs of Dalamud are up to something, go look into that, it's probably nothing >oh frick they found some kind of ancient sealed Mhachi vault and awakened some kind of giant evil black magic monster! It's like the magical equivalent of Omega! >oh frick it's going on a rampage and it'll cause untold destruction if it's not stopped! Quick WoW, chase it to [whatever corner of the land it fled to], put a stop to it!
Reaper is shit to play, jobs have been watered down so much tank is basically just blue dps rather than the stance dancing aggro holding chad it was.
healers are fricking braindead one button jobs with no real reason to exist unless your team is moronic which odds are they aren't in normal content.
Unironically the core issue is that the jobs suck, the job leveling sucks, levels 1-50 are such a fricking slog because of how gutted your kit is and that's if you're playing one of the 5 jobs with actual buttons.
If you're leveling shit like a tank or healer good luck not falling sleep as all you have is heal or single target skill until maybe level 70.
i did this back when T2 was available and bought every single item in the gold saucer
i kind of want to do it again for portal maps but i know i'll never ever use them.
they don't have to get a new job necessarily to get a new outfit, it's just that's the most obvious excuse to give a character a new outfit
I mean maybe?
To be honest I doubt they'll change Y'shtola's outfit. it's like too recognizable at this point
>They're all the scholar archetype since they're all from Sharlayan (who thought this was a good idea?), >have had absolutely zero character development since ARR besides Thancred and Alphinaud >Zero conflict or drama ever between them >They have zero flaws and are awesome at everything the plot needs them to be >Are essentially cardboard cutouts that just exist to give the WOL exposition and platitudes nonstop.
I blame the fact that they are all MMO quest giver NPCs (they all did jackshit in base ARR besides help the WOL 2 times whilst otherwise letting you do 100% of the actual work and adventuring) that the writers attempted to elevate into actual main characters in Post-ARR, but never shook off their MMO quest giver NPC. They were never written to be actual main characters, just npcs to give the WOL shit to do throughout base ARR.
Add all this to the fact that they all have indestructable plot armor at this point so now nobody feels there is any risk of them dying or suffering in any serious way so there is not only a lack of tension from the lack of drama between them, but a lack of tension from the complete and utter lack of threat to themselves since if they "die" it'll just end up being their 1millionth fakeout death so nobody actually cares. There's nothing even the greatest writers in the world, even given total creative freedom, could do with these "characters" besides put them on a bus or kill them off.
Contrast the Scions with Ardbert and his party and it's night and day. The latter are actual characters with individual flaws and who conflict with one another like actual human beings do with their friends. I have no idea how there is even a single person who likes any of the scions. They suck, they have always sucked, they're not characters, they're exposition and platitude dispensers masquarading as characters.
agreed. just leave the eorzea baggage and kriles dogshit organization baggage at home. just be a literal who not ADVENTURER bullshit and lets make new friends again or save some cute princesses kingdom or go explore ancient ruins.
Au'ra scales will never not just look like a bad skin condition to me. What were they thinking? How did they manage to frick up something as simple as dragon people?
They aren't dragon people though, they were supposed to be succubi/incubi.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>they were supposed to be succubi/incubi.
No they weren't and I will never understand how this headcanon has survived for so long. This comes from their introduction presentation in which Yoshida said their character creation options allowed for a demonic/succubus kind of look. Somehow that almost instantly turned into "THEY'RE DEMONS!!!"
Aura should've just been anime Tieflings. Their lack of ears looks really wierd. Shouldve given them pointy ears, and horns protruding from their forheads not the sides of their heads, just go full demon girls like they intended in the concept art.
>have had absolutely zero character development since ARR besides Thancred and Alphinaud
Urangier and Estinien have had plenty of development. Urangier's character arc went from ARR to almost the very end of the EW MSQ.
they retconned the shit out of alphinaudds growth in 5.4 til now for the stupid daddy issues story line with forchenault. alisaie has been flanderized after coils.
Same. I just can't see any other way Hien's variant dungeons will play out. It all points to Doma's past, his family and idk some super secret I guess he didnt know until now that wont matter in the grand scheme of things.
>SB era >doomposts about Eureka >threads still manage to be lively >EW era >doomposts about Island Sanctuary and relics >every single thread is 80% reposts from OF, twitter, or previous thread over and over and over since the launch of EW
You know the game is in a bad spot when Ganker threads have less variety than/vg/ threads. Looking forward to EU FF so we can finally get a crumb of gameplay info for 7.0.
Of course Ganker threads look too much like /vg/ threads at times, /vg/ loves to raid threads here because their mental ward isn't enough attention for them.
Haven’t played since HW. Is it still a theme park mmo with 2.5s GCD and no build varieties for jobs? Because if so, I’m genuinely shocked that it lasted this long. Story homosexuals really did ruin this genre.
she filtered billions, and its for that reason that EW is the best expansion. you can tell who went into EW thinking if not hoping she would turn out to be evil by how they try to do mental gymnastics into making her evil
I wasn't disappointed she wasn't evil per se, but I was definitely disappointed with how Endwalker make her much less intelligent than see seemed before
that's because xiv isn't an mmo. It's a ff game where your party members are played by other people, and even that doesn't have to be the case anymore with trusts being expanded every major patch.
oh i'm going to finish out the msq, but running across the time gated tribal quest filler shit every expansion stuck with me in a way that farming vorkath didn't
the thancred roleplay mission is probably one of the worst quests in the entire game. It is unbelievably tedious. To the point where it'll take like 10 minutes+ to defeat that dumb fricking monk guy on very easy mode, which you'll only be on because every single stupid role play scenario gives the boss a 1-shot mechanic for some fricking reason. I don't even know why they keep insisting on adding these guttershit fricking scenarios. If they really wanted it to seem like the scions were doing something, then have them join in fricking instanced quests and give them like duo moves you can engage with them in, like your squadrons. Role play scenarios are the dumbest fricking thing they've added in the game.
>I don't even know why they keep insisting on adding these guttershit fricking scenarios.
I'm pretty sure they're supposed to be job showcases.
"Hey, look how cool being a Red Mage could be!" as they give you a watered down version of the job that tries to sell you on the fantasy of being a slashy casty mage hybrid
but they always make the job look SHIT. If i didn't already like GNB i'd never touch it after seeing it as thancred. It's so fricking moronic that they think giving a fricking 4 button overly long tedious fricking mission as the job class that is in no way representative of how the job will play will somehow get people to want to try it. It's just so fricking stupid. I don't even know what the developers are thinking constantly adding in these dumbfrick roleplay scenarios. It actually boggles my fricking mind. Like I remember seething during the entire thancred fight completely certain no fricking developer actually playtested this shit or they'd have realized a 10+ forced msq fight as a fricking watered down tank job is actual torture. Like I was getting fricking flashbacks to trying to do dailies as a prot warrior in wow or some shit. Just pure suffering.
Ah of course. That explains everything. I now love excruciatingly long tank fights with 4 whole buttons. I hope they extend the next one to 30 minutes.
1 year ago
Anonymous
my game crashed on that fight and i was close to the end i was so pissed i had to do it over again
>SB era >doomposts about Eureka >threads still manage to be lively >EW era >doomposts about Island Sanctuary and relics >every single thread is 80% reposts from OF, twitter, or previous thread over and over and over since the launch of EW
You know the game is in a bad spot when Ganker threads have less variety than/vg/ threads. Looking forward to EU FF so we can finally get a crumb of gameplay info for 7.0.
October. NA is in July but there's never anything of value at NA FF besides title drop of next expansion. EU shows a new job, art, and locations. JP has full trailer, second job, and is mostly dedicated to info about the new expansion.
you are wrong, the first fanfest is usually the CG teaser and the first job, the second fanfest is the full trailer and the second job and the third one is the Expansion trailer (with the game engine) and the last details of it
Hello secondary. Launch trailers come iut a few weeks before release, those are in-engine. The CG trailer is released in thirds with the finished one being at JP FF.
First teaser trailer is the important one, it gives us an idea of what's happening next and at this point that could literally be fricking anything. I'm happy that even though we've seen 3 patches of nothing that 6.4 HAS to give us a lead.
>tfw started playing at some point in late SB/early ShB and without any spoilers thought that it was some kind of time travel story about the far future and that the sin eater you fight in the trailer was literally an avatar of Halone
I'm still confused on why Thancred says "this town has clearly changed and not for the better" if Eulmore was not supposed to be some kind of future Limsa.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Didn't Thancred arrive on the First first? He's been there for like 5 years when we show up, I guess Eulmore had changed between him arriving and then saving Minfilia.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Eulmore used to be a bulwark against the sin eaters who fought fiercily via the various Minfilias. By the time Ryne came up, Eulmore was now ruled by Vauthry who started coexisting with the sin eaters and imprisoned her.
Thancred saw both sides of Eulmore, he had been there for 5 years
1 year ago
Anonymous
It's because it still looks exactly like Limsa but with more decorations, and if you read his lodestone short story he notices all the similarities. There's a kind of synchronicity going on. Whoever designed Eulmore got visions of Limsa or something.
1 year ago
Anonymous
I think it's a simpler "hey, this general area looks like it'd be a really good spot to build a port city, ain't it?" kind of thing that remains true across all reflections since they all share roughly the same default geography with the Source being the most screwed up and the Thirteenth being... melted.
1 year ago
Anonymous
But it's not just the location. The main building is also the same, Eulmore just has the gold capped towers and those big balloons on top.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>I'm still confused on why Thancred says "this town has clearly changed and not for the better" if Eulmore was not supposed to be some kind of future Limsa.
The cinematic trailers are in production far ahead of the actual expansion, so they've never been representative of the final product's events. The script for the former has to be finished at least a year before the script for the expansion is set in stone.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>I'm still confused on why Thancred says "this town has clearly changed and not for the better" if Eulmore was not supposed to be some kind of future Limsa.
The cinematic trailers are in production far ahead of the actual expansion, so they've never been representative of the final product's events. The script for the former has to be finished at least a year before the script for the expansion is set in stone.
This and also the fact SHB script was changed a decent amount, it looks like Ryne was supposed to be a child originally instead of a teen. The Amano art has the DRK knight holding her as a wee child and Eden was supposed to be the final boss instead of Emet, but they handwave the trailer pretty well by implying it's set in the years before the WoL returns. Also explains why the twins are absent from it due to being the newest arrivals before WoL.
Remember time between shards being finnicky? Lmao, now THAT was a dropped plot point.
1 year ago
Anonymous
nah the new stage writer guy has that in his pocket for whatever golbez is going to do and its going to be moronic.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Nah, at the very start, the Fiends already talk about CoD's defeat like it was a couple weeks ago. The timeskip between shards has been utterly and completely dropped, only serving as a convenient narrative device for the start of 5.0
It's still going to be vague but even a vague idea in this situation is going to give us a ton of information. Are we going to see a new setting on this planet? Another shard? More of the void? The story can go literally anywhere so any tiny shred of concrete info is welcome.
Because it was vague on purpose, the latter half of 4.X is setting you up to fight Garlemald then you get whisked away on an isekai journey while Garlemald is killed off-screen. None of the other teasers are vague like SHB was.
This raid tier was genuinely awful and the most unfun Ive had with this game yet (speaking as a SB baby). I know lots of people that quit completely because the extremes and savage raids this tier were really fricking bad.
Most of EW was terrible, Savage tiers sucked ass and were mostly annoying as frick, some of the extremes were the worst things ever, but I do like Zodiark and Barb's EX. The highlights however were both Ultimates which I really enjoyed clearing with my homies, the criterion dungeon which was fun on the 4 player variant, and Orthos. They need to make the final savage tier enjoyable and somehow tie up the MSQ in a good way or this expac is mostly going to be canned outside of the Ultimates. God I really just want a good patch for some good content, I've been making side groups for old Ultimates to help some people just because I'm bored of just TOP reclears but I'm gonna burn myself out of the game at this point.
>The chills and cheers felt when the first SHB trailer dropped at NA fanfest and G'raha (unknown at the time) said Become the warrior of darkness and then the Shadowbringer name popped in
>make the CT maditory now >eternal wind plays as g'raha is sealing himself inside
I'm glad I played ShB before they got hamhanded with the set up.
1 year ago
Anonymous
If they think CT is mandatroy enough to make it required fricking Omega should be too. The game still works if you did not do CT since the one Graha comes from can just be from another timeline that you did do the tower. It isnt like the Alliance raid is helpful, interesting or useful beyond based as frick Nero being in it.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Every 8 man and 24 man should be mandatory for unlocking the next expansion.
Yes you WILL do Nier
1 year ago
Anonymous
Make Eureka mandatory.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>Make Eureka, Bozja and the allied role quests for SHB and EW mandatory
Do it NOW
7.0 will be content doers paradise
1 year ago
Anonymous
>next expansion we literally go to Nier's Earth >Nier is made mandatory >Ganker seethes
Make it happen.
1 year ago
Anonymous
holy frick this. the matsuno homosexuals would cry and shit their pants and continue to play an old 8 year raid that sucked dick.
>hehe here's a screencap of a few bait posts disagreeing with the prevailing theory that means it wasn't the theory 99.999% of the playerbase bought into
1 year ago
Anonymous
Sorry to tell you shadowbab but the vast majority of people didn't think it was G'raha. Even THE biggest loregay who literally got hired to fact check the official lorebook didn't think it was G'raha.
1 year ago
Anonymous
You want to fit in so bad
Im glad you never experienced DRK when it was good
>samegay larping as an oldgay
tell me the name of the ability people who screamed at healers for forgetting to cast in instances pre-shb without googling
1 year ago
Anonymous
Protect? Stoneskin? Shroud of Saints? Cleric Stance? There were quite a few.
1 year ago
Anonymous
lol, knew you were a larper
anyone who actually played the game back then would have instantly know which one i was thinking of specifically instead of googling "removed ffxiv healer abilities" and listing as many as possible hoping to pass as an oldgay
1 year ago
Anonymous
I'm supposed to know which of the half dozen abilities you could have been thinking of based on your moronicly vague description? have a nice day, Black person. You will never be an oldgay.
1 year ago
Anonymous
SHBabby destroyed
1 year ago
Anonymous
>d00d look at the vanity item from my bought account who cares if I can't tell something literally anyone who did more than 10 dungeons pre-shb would immediately guess i am an oldgay please take me seriously!!!
lol
lmao
1 year ago
Anonymous
Thanks for letting everyone know you just wanted to bait
1 year ago
Anonymous
guy saying people didn't believe g'raha was crystal exarch calling others baiters
lmaooooo
1 year ago
Anonymous
You want to fit in so bad
Im glad you never experienced DRK when it was good
Graha being the exarch was easy to figure out, Lyse being the *red girl* was the only one that got me, because Lyse is a flat a board, literal false marketing.
Isn't Azdaja going to just be the shadow dragon we presumably fight in the dungeon of the next patch? Golbez could basically be anybody. I'm more curious if they are going to do anything with Zero via the way of Zeromus
1 year ago
Anonymous
That was the original assumption, but this time the 'shadow dragon' and Golbez are going to be one and the same. >"One born of a dragon" >Golbez's name refers to a type of fly said to be born out of a dragon's corpse >we've already been given an example of dragon's piloting puppet bodies >Vrtra very oddly made sure to remind us before this whole thing began that dragon genders are arbitrary, and this wasn't pozzed localization stuff because it was also in JP, meaning it's relevant to something (such as why Golbez has a man's voice) >why did Golbez even care that the Alzadaal gate was opened? >how did Golbez know that the dragon eye would attract Vrtra's attention, or that Vrtra was even one of the people fricking around in the Void? >who's holding the sword on the new patch art?
1 year ago
Anonymous
>Spoil the frick out of the new trial by telling us it's name and even showing a picture, albeit a zoomed in one of Golbez
You'd also question why he doesn't just absorb all of the dragons power and only lets the underlings take a little bit.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Also, how did Golbez get to the moon. Maybe because... his species can fly through space?
1 year ago
Anonymous
I can't believe Hydaelyn, the Watcher, Zenos, Fandaniel, Zodiark, Elidibus, the WoL and all the Scions, Hildibrand, Nashu, Godbert, PuPu, that one weird reporter and a bunch of garleans and also the Warriors of Darkness are all dragons
1 year ago
Anonymous
Hydaelyn made the moon and put the Watcher on it and Zodiark inside it. Elidibus was an Ascian and could teleport. Everyone else teleported with the Tower of Babil. Does Golbez have a Tower of Babil?
1 year ago
Anonymous
Please tell me this post is a joke and you aren't thinking this was a smart reply.
1 year ago
Anonymous
No, you're right, I'm an idiot, I forgot to mention Meteion too. Thanks, friend.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Wait until they're rejoined.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Golbez at this point is pretty obviously Azdaja, the real question is what/who is Zero and how will she be used in the story, so far she hasn't actually done much of anything.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>Golbez at this point is pretty obviously Azdaja
Jesus christ stop this moronic theory
1 year ago
Anonymous
ok
1 year ago
Anonymous
Yaeh cuz he took her eye and gave it to Cognazzo dum dum
While I am pretty sure they are the same as you stated, I am still hoping for Holbez being an Azem shard. This might mostly be due to the fact that I do not like Zero and an desperatly hoping she is not an Azem shard. I wish she would frick right off.
To be fair, they completely rewrote his character and then he has just been a lump of ugly nothing since his reveal. I wish one of the clone twins lived instead of simp cat. His whole plot is a fricking stupid mess anf would be better without him ever being written into the game.
That moment in Radz-at-han where he channels the Exarch again and becomes a competent leader for a whole 2 seconds made me mad. Why couldn't he remain like that?
Everytime we see grandpa Raha he's great and then he gets immediately ruined with fanboy Raha with his one-note adventure obsession.
Dude should be wise beyond his years, it's not a problem to show some light moments but fricking give me more of the mature fellow.
G'raha knows of our exploits through the lenses of legends passed down by others in his timeline. So he's always been a huge fan of ours but he had to lead people for a long time during a near end of the world scenario until a time came where he could summon us. Of course he acts like a huge simp during less stressful times with us. Did you ignore his final monologue at the end of 5.3 as we run to the next adventure?
Not defending it just saying it makes sense he acted serious when it was needed. I do wish he would act more grown up at times.
I know why he acts like that, I don't think it's out of character or anything like that. I just wish he was more mature more often.
The simping gets tiring when he becomes anime boy looking up at his senpai type simping. I wish he had a more mature form of respecting and admiring us such as the one Estinien has when he recognizes us as the Azure Dragoon.
See, you make the mistake of thinking he is or was any different before. He isnt at all different with the hood on or with it off. He is still a rabid fanboy of you who just worships your reputation and legend but doesn't really know you.
I don't get him being a good leader too, when you show up with an super tower the main threat of can't even touch and have all the tech inside there to help you build your city. Of course he is going to get followers and if they play nice they get to live in his protected area, there is no leadership fricking involved. He gets handed all the keys to everything for EZ mode.
Any of the scions there could have stood up and done exactly what he did, they just needed him to do something in the expansion because he does frick all.
Building up a fricking city for refugees and somehow making it work is not an easy thing to do even with bullshit tower tech, especially when you are alone and the only thing you studied is the story of a battle autist killing dragons and Allagan history.
Let's not pretend the dude wasn't competent as a leader, he made up an entire city by nothing and united various people that had no relation to eachother by winning their trust and respect.
No other scion could do that, Y'shtola is the closest and she just hid in a cave after killing a bunch of randos to win good boy points with the shadow boys
1 year ago
Anonymous
Did it take much work though?Desperation brings people tofether united against a common goal. They followed him because he is the only one who can control the magic tech and tower keeping you safe. I was probably harsh on mu first words but lets not pretend he wasn't working on EZ mode, especially since he admits he was only doing it to impress the WoL when he actually summoned them. >Y'shtola is the closest
How the frick do you figure this when Y'shtola is by far the least devloped and likes to be by herself?
1 year ago
Anonymous
Y'shtola also had a group of people who would follow her.
Urianger could keep the faes at a wide berth thanks to his autism, Thancred was brooding and going muh daughter, Alphinaud was doing nothing important and Alisaie was busy scissoring with that girl in Amh Araeng. Y'shtola is the only scion who could theoretically lead a group of people so she is the closest.
G'raha having an advantage does not take away from the fact that his was still an impressive achievement, the city is huge, functional and secure. If people clung together for safety and nothing else you'd get Eulmore's shanty town. There are clear parallels there to drive this point home.
1 year ago
Anonymous
They only followed her due to the fire that broke out and she was the one who lead them out. They have gone downhill and live in caves now and haven't rebuilt since she started leading. If anything it seems it has gotten worse for them. Thancred we know also can lead teams on missions and has done so. Urianger had a harder job of keeping the far more dangerous fairies at bay while also making them allies at the same time. The whole point though is that any of the scions there could have done what Graha did at Radz-at-Hahn. Even better would have been if your WoL could have done something instead of just stand their uselessly.
Graha is still a simp, he should have stayed fricking dead in ShB on top of the tower and every single scene they try to make you like him in he has he gets overshadowed by other characters in it who take over it.
>I don't get him being a good leader too, when you show up with an super tower the main threat of can't even touch and have all the tech inside there to help you build your city. Of course he is going to get followers and if they play nice they get to live in his protected area, there is no leadership fricking involved. He gets handed all the keys to everything for EZ mode.
And you also solve all the problems in Garlemald by showing up with a frickhuge convoy full of relief supplies and experts to help survivors from a disaster, and look how that went.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Considering Garlemald has been brianwashed into thinking you are evil for generations it went pretty well.
That moment in Radz-at-han where he channels the Exarch again and becomes a competent leader for a whole 2 seconds made me mad. Why couldn't he remain like that?
Everytime we see grandpa Raha he's great and then he gets immediately ruined with fanboy Raha with his one-note adventure obsession.
Dude should be wise beyond his years, it's not a problem to show some light moments but fricking give me more of the mature fellow.
G'raha knows of our exploits through the lenses of legends passed down by others in his timeline. So he's always been a huge fan of ours but he had to lead people for a long time during a near end of the world scenario until a time came where he could summon us. Of course he acts like a huge simp during less stressful times with us. Did you ignore his final monologue at the end of 5.3 as we run to the next adventure?
Not defending it just saying it makes sense he acted serious when it was needed. I do wish he would act more grown up at times.
See, you make the mistake of thinking he is or was any different before. He isnt at all different with the hood on or with it off. He is still a rabid fanboy of you who just worships your reputation and legend but doesn't really know you.
I don't get him being a good leader too, when you show up with an super tower the main threat of can't even touch and have all the tech inside there to help you build your city. Of course he is going to get followers and if they play nice they get to live in his protected area, there is no leadership fricking involved. He gets handed all the keys to everything for EZ mode.
Any of the scions there could have stood up and done exactly what he did, they just needed him to do something in the expansion because he does frick all.
>alliance graha
man hes decent not embarassing at all. >eureka orthos graha
simping fool again .
what the frick cant the writers agree with any consistency ?
I had a small amount of hope when he actually scolded you if you made a comment towards Y'stola. He just sank back down to trash though after yeah. I enjoyed telling him I like going on adventures alone to crush his dreams. I should replay the sacrifice part in EW where you can shit on him again.
>every graha cutscene wol gets midlander emotes. >wol never shits on him or gets weirded out by him. >please take me on ANOTHER adventure
what a simpering Black person. if that wasnt emotional manipulation i dont know what is anons. i guess the women like it though.
1 year ago
Anonymous
I dont get it either and I am a woman., he is just an awful character who creeps me the frick out. At least with Zenos it isn't treated like a good thing. Honestly I like Zenos more since he actually gets your WoL more than your stalker cat gets your WoL.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>Tell Deryk I like to be alone sometimes >G'raha looks heartbroken
I think my aversion to the cat stems from the fact that I can't stand clingy people.
>unknown at the time
Literally guessed it was him the first moment we saw the exarch on a poster, I could tell by the homosexual lips of face 3 catboys
Devs CANNOT help but dumb down everything. They simply refuse to stop being casual-brained fricking morons.
The only way to have any sort of complexity in the game anymore is to play Savage as a Black Mage, and that gets pretty fricking old, pretty fricking fast.
Here's a fact of life you have to realize to understand mmos, mmo players are fricking stupid. The current STATE of xiv is just a consequence of the main audience being mmo players.
It was fine during Stormblood, playerbase was only growing. Population exploded due to story at ShB and showed no signs of decline. Ironically dumbing it down has only turned a lot of people off, since the non-savage content is so piss easy that even for a lot of casuals it gets boring. >t. was in an FC with a lot of casuals who slowly got blackpilled on the game over the constant dumbing down of class mechanics
I just don't understand why SE is so afraid to leave one genuinely complex class in each role, to appeal to players that want that complexity. Why are ALL the tanks boring as shit? Why are all the healers except maybe AST boring as shit (dw it will get nuked for 7.0)?
The game has never been complex, you're mistaking poor design for complexity.
>b-but what about
No, things like old SMN were fricking awful and the only reason anyone played it was because (at times) it did insane dps. The job was always a frickfest of jank and XIV doesn't have a functional pet system like XI did so it was never going to work unless they actually figured out how to do it. The handful of contrarians who will say they loved it and that it was the coolest job ever are just yanking your chain, shit sucked man.
>b-but new smn is too simple
Yeah, it kinda is, but what you're forgetting is that they need something to build on for the future and this new SMN is a great platform to do so. People freaked out when they talked about changing DRG but that's because they are too blind to see the looming issue with jobs not having the ability to be added to without it turning things to shit.
>No, things like old SMN were fricking awful >Old SMN >fricking awful
Stopped reading.
Old SMN filtered brainlets by having slightly janky pet AI that was NOT at all hard to play around, but required some amount of brainpower, and morons pissed and shit themselves crying "IT'S INCONSISTENT REEEEEE" because they were too fricking stupid to figure it out.
>It was fine during x,y,z
People were always complaining about one thing or another. The reason why they kept playing was because there was usually a reword or balance pass on the horizon. mmo players aren't as competent as you think they are and any anecdotes you have are meaningless when mmo players are the type that will whine for hard content then cheat when they get it. >but I know a casual shitter that stopped playing the game because they dumbed down his job
Understand that mmo players love to talk big. They love to speak as if they know what they're talking about when they actually don't.
Standing still and pressing the correct buttons in order is not much different than moving around and pressing the correct buttons in order.
Muh enochian is not an excuse anymore and muh polyglot isn't that engaging either.
Muh fight knowledge also goes for every job save for ranged physicals who just don't need it.
I won't lie and pretend it's a simple job but it's not this 9000 IQ thing.
not that anon, and it's not a 9000 iq thing, you're right. However, I started XIV player healers, then moved to DPS, then tanks, and really only play BLM now and BLM by far has the highest amount of game knowledge needed to play optimally, while still managing to have fun gimmick spells (ley lines, aetherial manip/between the lines), good visual fx/attack feedback, and an enjoyable rotation.
It's fun because it's an example of how a class CAN be good and still appeal to hardcore players. Most other jobs are fricking boring as shit, feel lame to play, or both (Reaper is a great example of this once you get over the fact it has WaCkY sCrEeNsHaKe WoOoOoAH! on the camera during the skills).
I guess I can agree with that, god knows I wish more classes had more going on.
I don't mind turning off my brain and just focusing on mechanics while playing something like MCH but still, having the choice of at least one complex class per archetype would be better.
>started playing during the ps3 beta days >quit during heavensward because i was burned out and focusing on real life crap >come back for stormblood and end up getting dumped so now i can play basically 24/7 >make tons of gil during this time and go from a small house to a medium one >think i would stop there but stay grinding >do the same in shadowbringers and make enough for a large house and get one >keep it right till the start of endwalker >sell it to an FC 500 million gil >finish the 1.0 story >stopped playing and only do seasonal events
>ancient 12000 year old dragon tells you to buck up , protect your friends, also helps you man to man with urianger >MUH SISTER MUH SISTER MUH SISTER
they killed vtra and the 2 different body puppets is moronic as well. the only thing to make this all worth it is when we get his sister in a cute lizard body learning how to interact on the source.
>rush-resolve every plot thread you have, in some cases fairly unsatisfyingly beyond the initial sugar-rush of Endwalker emotions >base, fanservice-level writing >core narrative and thematic elements that make XIV XIV gone entirely within the space of a sentence in extreme cases >expansion gets praise for being gratifying (which it was) >but when the gratification wears off, the lack of emotional depth leaves nothing really to chew on and the world, as a whole, is resolved
Turns out blanking your slate just means you have to rebuild from the ground-up and a setting with years of growth, depth, attachment, and history is worth more than the 'freedom' writers would get from destroying it. If this goes on for 10 more years, none of it will even feel like XIV anymore.
Meanwhile mechanically people have lost trust in their job design and they don't see this as the gigantic crisis it is. >hey we're addressing some issues with your job
Being met with scorn and complaints should really make them look in the mirror as to what they're doing. Ultimately, they want to cater almost exclusively to hyper-casuals to the point where everything needs to be playable while watching 5 different netflix shows. But it doesn't make a very good video game at the end of the day. They're too scared of scaring people off. All the while, most of the activities outside this kiddie pool are SUPER HARDCORE EXTREME SKILL CHALLENGE CIRCULAR ARENA BATTLES. So they're catering to exactly two kinds of player with wildly different needs.
>Sahagin
Fair >Amal'jaa
We saved practically their entire race from being made into breakfast or otherwise tempered by Jank Bahamut, created by Fandaniel.
>We saved practically their entire race from being made into breakfast or otherwise tempered by Jank Bahamut, created by Fandaniel.
But the problem originally presented is that Ifrit was temper-crazy because he was summoned by a small sect of zealots, and he had tempered all sense of tradition and even self-preservation out of the Amalj'aa. He was frying their brains so that they only thought of continuing to summon him over and over. Which is why the Brotherhood of Ash was fighting back even against their own god. Yet somehow they see us fight Lunar Bahamut and their traditions spontaneously return long enough to decide maybe they should untemper themselves?
Not all Amal'jaa were tempered pre-ShB, anon. Same as not all Sahagin are tempered, not all Kobolds, etc.
They all still believe in and worship their respective gods, but proper tempering is an entirely different ballgame that turns them into drooling "must gather crystals, must summon god, must kill or temper others" primal zombies.
>Not all Amal'jaa were tempered pre-ShB, anon.
The vast majority were, that was the whole problem the Brotherhood of Ash was talking about. The Flamefang cult had completely taken over the majority of the race because of Ifrit's tempering obsession. Leviathan only tempered non-believers and Titan didn't intentionally temper at all. They were totally different beasts.
Because the next expansion isn't just a continuation, did you forget they said this was the ending of the current saga? Why do you think they went through just about every loose end and tied it up and provided a resolution for every major side story and plot point?
>People still think the next expansion is going to Meracydia
That will never happen. There are way, way too many fricking NPC's mentioning that you are the Warrior of Light in their sidequests for them to go back and get rid of them all.
And thank god for that. We have an unending codex for a reason. If newbies want to skip the entire story to play the Hot New Thing they can read the cliff notes if they want to follow along.
>end of saga end of saga end of saga
All this has to mean is that Ascians, Zodiark, and the Mommycrystal stop being the main story. Not for the setting to transmute itself into something else entirely.
It does because the entire setting is now sat squarely on their shoulders, any story they try to setup is going to find it's way back to the Ancients/Ascians so they can never truly be done with them. Lets also not forget that EW united the entire known world to help the WoL, that's too much to have to excuse to make a new story in the setting.
>the entire known world >33% of the landmass of Eitherys
We have a lot of other shit to do and see on our own world.
1 year ago
Anonymous
So why haven't these civilizations been mentioned or mattered in the story thus far? Anything we do on the source is going to tie back to the Ancients, we know where the world came from and that it's been guided by the Ascians for it's entire existence, we also now know that there are no true gods so there really isn't much left to do in this world.
1 year ago
Anonymous
What did Ivalice have to do with the Ancients or the Ascians?
1 year ago
Anonymous
When was Ivalice an entire expansion?
1 year ago
Anonymous
It doesn't matter. We've already dealt with a major civilization related to the rest of the lore in pretty major ways without ever having anything to do with Ancients or Ascians.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>So why haven't these civilizations been mentioned
Meracydia was mentioned as early as ARR.
New World mentioned as early as HW. >no true gods
We are literally in the middle of an alliance raid series telling you to go frick yourself, and that "if you call us primals again we're gonna yeet you into the fricking sun".
1 year ago
Anonymous
>Alliance Raid
Which is very clearly showcasing that they are not gods, they are Ancients or creations of the Ancients. >Meracydia
Case closed, the Allagans are overdone, Tiamat had her loose end tied up, and we figured out and cured tempering. >New World
The Garleans harvested fuel there, they are toast and nothing else of note happens there.
Please pay attention to the story holy frick.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>Case closed, the Allagans are overdone
The Meracydian campaign ended 5000 years ago. Who knows what Abo dreamtime voodoo they've been cooking up down there in that time. >The Garleans harvested fuel there, they are toast and nothing else of note happens there.
The New World is fricking gigantic and we've already been told about a legendary city of gold hiding somewhere.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>Meracydian
The next Eureka/Bozja. >legendary city of gold
A dungeon.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>48 man raid in the city of gold
SOUL
1 year ago
Anonymous
What did HW have to do with the Ascians? They were in it yes but all the issues going on in Ishgard were of human making before Lahabrea showed up to take advantage of the situation.
1 year ago
Anonymous
The entire culmination of Shadowbringers was us beating up some dude going "we are where all of you came from and we're better than you thus nothing you fricking do matter, now die already" and proving him wrong with a giant statement that everything that came after the ancients DOES matter. The game could not add a single new landmass and we already have enough plot hooks for like three more expansions' worth of adventures, at least.
Also, before anybody else mentions it. >we beat the literal incarnation of depressed entropy, there's nothing that could match us, we have to go bigger
Next patch will come around, and you'll be fighting a pack of wolves in a dungeon and struggling with it.
WoL's power level is floaty as frick, and in fact that floatiness is WRITTEN INTO THE FRICKING STORY with the giant bright gold"break your limits!" mechanic. Next villain can be some really angry gay that wants to use some ancient Mhachi magic to wipe off the entire population of some part of the world and that would be perfectly serviceable.
1 year ago
Anonymous
WoLs power level is pretty consistent. You have help every major fight, Estinien and Graha could easily wipe the floor with WoL in a 1v1
1 year ago
Anonymous
>Estinien and Graha could easily wipe the floor with WoL in a 1v1
Good one.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Meanwhile in reality
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1 year ago
Anonymous
That's before he got his blood soaked in double nigghog juice
1 year ago
Anonymous
And you'd still be able to kick his ass.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Yeah and now WoL is amped up on unfiltered Ancient Autism via Azem and pure Dynamis Juice.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Dont forget with Ardbert juined with us we are more rejoined than anyone else that wasn't an ascian.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Yeah that actually does give WoL an immediate edge given how he's now eight times rejoined.
1 year ago
Anonymous
REJOININGS AREN'T LIKE DBZ FUSIONS YOU STUPID Hispanic. Ardbert rejoining gave the WoL a second wind to hold the sin eater cum down. Graha summoned other WoLs. You're amped up on light and have assistance, only to then expend all that light to deal with Hades. You end SHB as you start it, the rejoining isn't some power booster.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>the rejoining isn't some power booster.
This homie skipped Emet's explanation on what rejoining does
1 year ago
Anonymous
>all Eorzeans are 7/14 >struggle with 1/14 voidsent on the regular
The writers don't care about it and neither should you.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Most Eorzeans are just people
Eorzea is a fricking hard place to live in
Some have tons of aether and kick ass
Most don't
1 year ago
Anonymous
>Goalpost moving
lol
So rejoining DON'T make you more powerful? Otherwise, everyone on Ethyris since the start of ARR should be able to kill voidsent with a sneeze. The weakest bum in ul'dah is 7x rejoined over the strongest voidsent.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>I'M RIGHT! SHUT UP STOP POSTING SHIT THAT MAKES ME LOOK DUMB!
Cutscene skipper
1 year ago
Anonymous
Not everyone is a fighter anon I don't know how you're too stupid to lose your own arguments despite changing them
1 year ago
Anonymous
Whos more powerful anon a boxer or your average smo on the street. So whos more powerful an adventurer or your average smo on the street. We've seen other adventurers and combat trained people take on your average voidsent.
1 year ago
Anonymous
If you took the average onions drinking redditor who can't even open the bottle on his own and MULTIPLIED his power by seven he would be able to crush Mike Tyson's skull with his bare hands.
1 year ago
Anonymous
1 year ago
Anonymous
f o o d
a n a l o g y
1 year ago
Anonymous
This homie cant math. If your avg redditor is level 1 while boxers like tyson is lv 9 who has fighting experience. He is still going to out beat your onion sipping level 7 redditor. Even if said redditor got a boost to level 9+ Mike Tysons experience alone would still give him the advantage.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Void Tyson is a 1 because he isn't rejoined. The onions is a 7 due to being rejoined. Rejoined = power boost.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>Continue to say you are a story skipper without saying you are a story skipper.
1 year ago
Anonymous
I don't think you understand just how relatively small the variation in human strength is, and just how much of a power boost multiplying it by seven would be. It doesn't matter how much more experience Mike Tyson has, the redditor's bones would be seven times denser. Mike Tyson can't outbox a steel wall.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>Suddenly rejoining makes bones steel
holy shit you are moronic.
1 year ago
Anonymous
You're a clueless highschool dropout with an IQ of 90 at best, completely out of league in this discussion.
The average human male bone density is that of like 1-1.25 g/cm3. Steel density is 7.85 g/cm3. If you were to multiply human bone density by seven, you would literally get steel density.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Who's more stronger, anon? A man who can bench 7 plate or a man who only bench 1 plate? Yeah it's the 7 obviously, so why does anyone fear the 1 plate? This is why rejoining = power level is stupid and should've never been addressed.
1 year ago
Anonymous
If you are talking about voidsent they arent just 1 plate. They had their aether corrupted and the only way to survive is to consume more aether and the more aether they consume the more powerful they get. Especially when they come to our world since just breathing allows them to absorb aether.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Did the Garlean bodynswao oart of the game teach you nothing anon?
1 year ago
Anonymous
esl kys.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>Goalpost moving
lol
1 year ago
Anonymous
>Go through 7 world ending calamities >Still alive
Yes Eorzeans are powerful
1 year ago
Anonymous
Voidsent are literally creatures that eat and absorb each others power to get stronger, an average voidsent is nothing. The voidsent we fight are literally at the peak of thier power made up of countless voidsent.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Don't forget they are also super charged on the aether of one of the 7 major dragons.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Most voidsent that aren't shitty imps are like 7*1/14th because of all the aethergorging they do.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>the rejoining isn't some power booster.
It literally is though. The average ancient was indefinitely stronger at their base than the average person on the source
1 year ago
Anonymous
>Hey everyone I skipped the story!
here we fricking go again
1 year ago
Anonymous
Rejoinings do make you more powerful bro, why do you think they don't?
1 year ago
Anonymous
How do you remember to breathe
1 year ago
Anonymous
Literally what the frick is this moronation.
How is this getting so many fricking replies. Rejoinings WOULD be power boosters if Emet's explanation was correct, but we got a full fricking expansion with an entire zone talking about how there's a second equally as fricking powerful energy source that's comparable to Aether in function/potency that can more easily be accessed by less aetherically-dense beings.
DYNAMIS IS WRITTEN INTO THE FRICKING STORY AND EXPLAINED A BILLION TIMES TO COMPLETELY NEGATE THE WHOLE AETHER DENSITY POWER DISCREPANCY.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>ummm but the midichlorians
Don't care, didn't read. SHB and EW are pure fanfiction. Canonically, we invaded Garlemald in 5.0 and won. Ascians were all killed in the process and then we fought Zodiark as the big bad. Been big chilling since 6.0.
1 year ago
Anonymous
To be fair to that anon, dynamis was shit and somehow managed to make a foreshadowed element feel entirely like an ass-pull and THE ENDURING SPIRIT OF MAN as mundane as electricity. Dynamis should have been a property of aether and maintained mystique, rather than a hastily introduced anti-aether that is both entirely obscure but also somehow well-known to elephants living in the trade capital of the world. And a man with depression I guess.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>Dynamis should have been a property of aether and maintained mystique
Funny, I sit at the opposite angle in this, I kinda appreciate Dynamis for explaining all the N instances of "HOW CAN YOU BE THIS STRONG, ADVENTURER" through the story but also introducing randomness into the system. Aether was TOO well explained, TOO well understood,and ever since ARR it just felt stifling and without any real magic to it. I despise the concept of aetherochemistry as a science, and some of my favorite parts of the story have always been ones where something comes out of left field and nobody has any fricking idea what it could possibly be, such as Ultima not fitting the known cosmology of the world in any fricking way but being a fricking horrifying threat. I appreciate the consistency that a well-understood magic system brings but I still want allowances for crazy not-very-understood mystical things to pop up in the world that characters can be surprised by and not explain like scientists..
1 year ago
Anonymous
they sure did drop that cringe ADVENTURER name fast. i hope they give us a new title soon if theyre insisting on dropping the warrior of light title.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>Not liking Adventurer title >Probably didn't even pick the choice that has Zenos call you adventurer
cringelord
1 year ago
Anonymous
kys troony.
1 year ago
Anonymous
I think you'd benefit from a more meta perspective. Aetherology serves the same purpose as star trekian technobabble. It's to look scientific but ultimately, if you want to find an excuse to deage the entire cast for an episode you just need to say 'tachyon' three times into a darkened bathroom mirror. And aether as science is beneficial exactly for the reasons you describe. However, having dynamis as an unknowable effect emotion has on aether (rather than a property of aether) gives further licence to make it surprising and adds the feeling of depth - like aetherology isn't a solved science. It's the important Magic that needs to be in your magical science.
Meanwhile I believe having dynamis as its own thing does exactly what you say it doesn't: both dynamis and aetherology are solved. We emit emotion particles now, rather than channel the spiritual energy of our HOPES AND DREAMS AND FRIENDSHIP. It mundanifies both elementals in my opinion.
1 year ago
Anonymous
I don't know if I'd say Dynamis is solved, we know it exists, we know it is normally nullified by charged aether unless it is present/accessed/stirred in dense enough quantities to the point where the interaction actually inverts and it dissipates aether, and we know that it is activated in that fashion via emotion. But we really don't know the extent of its properties and nobody has studied it extensively. We don't even know if Hermes knew much about it beyond "oh, it's present in vast amounts outside of this planet and I can fuel concepts with this".
If they start exploring the concept of it in more depth and trying to establish firm rules for it I'm going to be mad, though.
Another thing, though, is the potential of it opening up the way for there being OTHER kinds of mysterious energies and forces that we're not aware of and need never be brought up or understood but that can still add mystique to the world. Suddenly Nybeth's necromancy in the Palace of the Dead seems more mysterious and cool. Suddenly Edda's ghost showing up to haunt the quest giver after Hard Tam-Tara doesn't have to be just a leftover aethetic echo. Suddenly Susanoo doesn't have to be just a primal. Suddenly the scions briefly wondering in ARR what the FRICK King Moggle Mog was comes back to relevance a little even if the whole situation is a joke. Etc. etc.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>Suddenly the scions briefly wondering in ARR what the FRICK King Moggle Mog was comes back to relevance a little even if the whole situation is a joke
Wasn't this already revealed in the moogle part of HW?
1 year ago
Anonymous
>i sure would like to see more of alberic and maybe crazy ass heustine. >AYMERIC AYMEMERIC AYMERIC
what a fricking homosexual forced on us . even artoriels fricking rolequest was all about aymeric. frick that homie for basic ass b***hes.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>Estinien and Graha could easily wipe the floor with WoL in a 1v1
LOL
1 year ago
Anonymous
I've had to beat up Estinien specifically twice. Once when he snorted dragon's eye, and another when they hastily soft-retconned that I had in order to reuse it as an expansion plot.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Yeah, with 7 other people. And Alphinaud and force ghosts of Haurchefant and Ysayle peeling those eyeballs out while Nidhogg was in a dormant state. WoL is not as strong as secondary speedreaders think.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Pretty sure you canonically fight Niddy 1v1 at the steps of faith. The party is there because it's a trial
1 year ago
Anonymous
wrong, you fight it buffed with the yellow eye
1 year ago
Anonymous
Doesn't Hrae say that WoL never tapped into the eye? I remember seeing something like that. Hell even then the fact that you beat Nid's ass while amped up with only one eye still shows that WoL is much stronger than Estinien.
1 year ago
Anonymous
They are more skilled in thier professions than the WoL is in theirs but the WoL can beat them 1v1
1 year ago
Anonymous
Lol frick no. Graha is weak as frick now that he is not melded with the tower. Estinien while probably the second strongest person behind you is still behind you. He filled in for you but he certainly isn't stronger than you. He is a better DRG though.
1 year ago
Anonymous
That's not what Shadowbringers was about and yes everything that has happened on the source has been controlled by the Ascians. Furthermore you're forgetting the WoL can now call the entire planet for help if anything serious arose, there is no way to walk that back now.
It's over for this setting, they wouldn't have rushed to tie up all their loose ends otherwise.
>If this goes on for 10 more years, none of it will even feel like XIV anymore.
It already doesn't. We're in a completely different world at this point. We began in a somewhat gritty fantasy setting with sparse technology outside Garlemald and a lot of serious problems that the average person had to deal with. Now we're dancing with rabbits in nightclubs and listening to radio self-help shows and there are no more problems anywhere so everything is happy.
A case can be made for going too far, but ARR didn't feel one bit like a Final Fantasy world. Only in Heavensward with the Sea of Clouds did the game start finding its footing and matching the older games in some aspects and it has become more so with time. It was TOO much grit and not enough color.
You now remember the graphics update is happening in 7.0 as well. Whatever it may be it's pretty obviously not just a romp around Meracydia or the New World, it's bigger than filling in the map of the source. They didn't resolve all the worlds problems at record speed for nothing.
Save me from the future where the whole game is a Carmen Sandiago series of shallow toe-dips into geographic location A or B. Give me worldbuilding again. There are large swathes of Eorzea yet unexplored and the plot now needs to rebuild closer to home before it sends us away.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>There are large swathes of Eorzea yet unexplored
There is literally no interesting or intriguing reason for the story to go there, the setting has evolved to such a point where it's difficult to carve out a small scale story, impossible to carve out an isolated story like Heavensward, and it would be absolutely silly to try and push another world ending disaster back to back with EW. The reason why ShB worked so well is because it didn't have all this baggage attached to it, you could go into the story and not have to answer all these questions or come up for excuses for this or that.
1 year ago
Anonymous
The reason why Shb worked so well is because it engaged primarily with ARR/HW baggage and not SB baggage. ShB loved baggage, the frick are you talking about?
1 year ago
Anonymous
No anon, just no, I'm sorry but the next expansion isn't a casual jog around Meracydia.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>crystal tower >ardbert and the WoDs >ascian-wank >direct references and nods to what adventuring was in ARR >bridging diplomatic gaps between city-states and building bridges between previously antagonistic cultures
Oh yeah though, no baggage though because summoning doesn't happen.
Tactics is not a mainline game, and it's REMARKABLY different from the general tone the franchise has, to the point that when Matsuno went and headed the development of a mainline game, it was itself panned exactly FOR not having anywhere near the tone and narrative that a typical FF game has. And now Yoshida is making his own version of a Matsuno game, apparently, but the point is, mainline FF always had fun and goofy things, which were all severely lacking in ARR, Good King Moggle Mog was there but that was too little and without a lot of reach. It was nice to get to the Sea of Clouds and see a colorful place with enemies like kittens with gliders attached to their paws and giant birds doing a cute dancer as their idle animation while they fought you. That kind of stuff is what reminded me "oh yeah, that's what these games used to be like once upon a time."
>Ultimately, they want to cater almost exclusively to hyper-casuals to the point where everything needs to be playable while watching 5 different netflix shows
I truly wonder what broke Yoshida to focus on this so hard. He markets XVI the exact same way with the easy mode accessories. At least those are optional, unlike XIV where everything has to be babby handhold difficulty except ultimates which are ballbusting hard for no reason other than a moronic arms race between devs and raiders trying to flex on each other.
>Ultimately, they want to cater almost exclusively to hyper-casuals to the point where everything needs to be playable while watching 5 different netflix shows.
I hate this so much. I've seen so many people say its good the relic is easy tome dump because they have so many games in their backlog that they can now play.
Fricking morons you could just drop xiv, play your shit games, then come back and do the relic grind (if it was an actual grind) it isnt going away.
The Lifestream is already fricked, we pumped something between a third and a half of a planet's worth of ancients into the fricking thing at once, that can't be healthy for the pipes.
The ancients are sundered and we lost a lot of souls in the end of days too. It evens out. There are maybe only two unsundered souls going through. Emet and maybe Lahabrea, don't know whay happens to a soul that gets eaten to make a primal and whatever weird shit he did with his soul in Panda might mean it was never fully whole.
>doing Sohr Khai for the first time after the rework >3 sprouts who have completed the dungeon before >tank is single pulling >hrothgar samurai is single targetting aoe packs >never uses dot on the boss >notice he is just spamming random abilities now >hraesvelgr boss fight is completely ruined now >hroth dies during the fight and i don't rez him
i used to love this dungeon but i never want to play it again after this
The dungeon has to be possible for bots and players that play like bots. Welcome to the future of dungeon design because telling people >trying to play an MMO as a single player game is fricking moronic
Or >you have to do the mechanics or die
is unconscionable. Doing anything interesting how has an AI scripting team cost.
I wonder if we will see the other living Ascians any time soon, Pashtarot, Emmerololth (death in eureka wasn't a permament one apparently), Halmarut, Deudalaphon and Altima are all unknown after appearing in the end of ARR cutscene.
If we meet any of the remaining Convocation Ascians, they're most likely gonna be chilling on a tropical beach somewhere, and will tell us to go away. The rejoining can no longer occur.
There is something I don't get, and I am serious.
How can the ff xiv threads on vg be so fast, while the WoW ones are much slower, and yet by every metric wow is more popular?
Where the frick are all the wow players, or at least all the people interested in the game? why are they not here.
Conversely, why is xiv so popular on vg but not on other sites?
I don't get it.
FF14 players are playing the game while alt tabbed, Wow players are watching other people playing the game while complaining about it on forums and discords
because wowbucks need to consume 24/7. there is always an alt to grind, transmog to farm, dungeons to run, etc.
xiv has a lot more downtime and everyone is complaining there is nothing to do
On one side a calamity/rejoining seems to be what they are hinting at, on the other side they are way too lazy or don't have the funds to actually pull off something like that again.
>funds
they didn't have funds for the first one, it was literally a gamble and they'd end up sinking the company if it didn't work out, they absolutely have money for another if they felt the need for it but why even bother when theres a frickload of morons eating up the slop that is endwalker "content" happily while sucking the boot of square
Most people don't, the problem is some of those people feel the need to post their takes on the story whih are very clearly not correct and argue endlessly to try and defend their headcanon. It's how we got the zodiark trance gang.
>The zodiark trance gang is less annoying than the venat gang tbh
You mean the gays that constantly scream that Venat was evil are less annoying then the Light Mommy gays? You're joking right?
I really don't care what they're doing on youtube, the venat simps here are just as bad as the lalafells, EW story was shit, stop talking about it already
I don't know how to put it well, but my brain sees ARR and HW as "old" XIV and I remember jackshit about them, while SB onwards is "modern" xiv and I remember most of what happened.
Why aren't Alisaile and the rest of the Scions that got transported to the First literal demigods capable of soloing entire armies? After all, if Rejoinings are a power boost, they should be what, seven times stronger than the average Norvrandtian? Why didn't Thancred BTFO Ranjeet with a single autoattack?
alisaie is trash.
thancred moron aether homosexual dabbed on ardbert when he was on the source. ranjit was homosexualry padding so they could do the ryne,thancred, minfilia story line near the end no one cared about. you literally body ranjit because they wanted him as a boss too when its all resolved.
You can tell the role quest stuff was going to be about the scions primarily because Ranjit fits in perfectly as somehow only Thancred and scions should fight, but then you don't have a catgirl in casual glam at the center of every cutscene so it was redone. Ranjit is a good character, but only in literally any game that isn't FFXIV.
It is possible that the role quests at first were intended to be about the scions. Thancred tank, Urianger healer, Y'shtola caster, and someone else (Lyna?) as dps.
It would make a lot more sense from a narrative sense over giving us 4 literally who hunters who were forgotten as soon as their quests were over.
cast is too bloated. two shotas, two midlanders, dwarf, homosexual cat. one of them is going to die for some characters arc.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>he thinks they'll ever be relevant again
Bro, their only purpose was to explore the void and we're alresdy doing that without them. It took Unukalhai 5 fricking years to move from Rising Stones to Norvrandt, they're not gonna do SHIT. Yoshida is a fat fricking Black person who casualizes this game tenfold every expansion yet can't even be arsed to at least make most content mandatory for better narrative weaving.
He never kicked your ass in the first place. In Lakeland he just pulled out a stun attack you didn't expect and then Exarch teleported you away to escort Ryne. The same stun attack never works on you again and you don't fight him head on again until Eulmore.
>Dickless Himbo
You'll see him and friends show up to entirely innocuous tweets about Venat. Pretty sure he and his troony buddies harassed a 15 year old for saying she loved Venat.
>Pretty sure he and his troony buddies harassed a 15 year old for saying she loved Venat.
That's not surprising since they're pedophiles. As are all trannies
>Dickless Himbo
You'll see him and friends show up to entirely innocuous tweets about Venat. Pretty sure he and his troony buddies harassed a 15 year old for saying she loved Venat.
https://arch.b4k.co/v/search/filename/30e8cd54-1ccf-43e7-a425-d3530ebf5bba.png/
https://arch.b4k.co/v/search/filename/shadowlesshimbo.png/
Stop replying to yourself.
>did you just say we are even more annoying than that other group of homosexuals because they spam their crap on twitter (aka not here) while we spam our crap on Ganker (aka here)? i cant believe you would do that, now let me show how annoying those homosexuals are by bumping my twitter screencap folder for the 50th time this week
i genuinely and unironically hope your gender affirmation surgery goes horribly wrong and you die on the butchers table, freak
Free login campaign brought all of them back (including Titanman) and they're all on the verge of mental breakdowns. Titanman because the Trancers are stealing his job. One of them is gonna post CP and get the site shut down at this rate (because the mods are all AWOL and will take forever to notice, happened with people posting porn before)
What went wrong is that they removed Yugiri from the MSQ
The VA got murdered
That happened in HW dumbass
Hasn't Yugiri had like 3 VA's who all died?
no
ARR one got replaced because they replaced a lot of them in HW
Sian Blake took the role in HW, but she and her kids got murdered by her ex-husband, I think before 3.1 came out
After Sian died Eleanor Matsuura took over the role
Joke's on you retiring yugiri means that I can safety headcanon that she's pregnant with my child offscreen
Nothing to look forward to. Everyone was sticking around to see how the story would end, Yoship had the balls to end it on a somewhat high note. They're paying the price now since it will be a long time to build up the same impact as what started in 1.0 and concluded over a decade later.
About half the game played for the story component alone, and another chunk of the game's population considered it a critically important part of the game, so when it's gone it just leaves mechanics that everyone's seen a million times over. Improving PvP was a step in the right direction to creating renewable content, but savage raids haven't innovated and have even regressed since at least SB and arguably HW, Eureka and Bozja along with PotD/HoH only interest a smaller subset of the game, and things like savage dungeons came too late and in too minor of way to keep people coming back.
as someone that used to play pso2:
lol, lmao even
>pander to casuals
>game dies
B-but reddit told me raiders were the one killing it
its pandering to turbo casuals who don't like playing the game and poopsock raiders at the same time leaving nothing for normal people
This.
/thread
Luckily there is zelda this week and diablo early next month to keep me occupied for quite a while
6.4 is more of the same and I have 0 intetest in returning as none of my friends will either
> casuals
> normal people
These are the same anon, just accept that you're a casual.
They kinda fricked up by making Endwalker feel like the definitive ending to 14. I have zero interest now since like I said, it feels like the story to 14 has concluded. And any attempt to make a new plot seems lazy, out of nowhere, and like their milking the game.
pic sorta related
They unironically should've had (you) lose and done an ARR 2.0.
I still think they should've had WoL be forced to take Hydaelin's place to sustain the world, you still go and fully destroy Zodiark during the story but Hydaelin is going to keep withering away to nothing unless someone infused with aether built up from belief by the people of an entire world steps in. The end would be WoL walking into the mothercrystal in the same way Zenos "possessed" Shinryu, and to mirror 1.0's end, your companions and the world can remember your actions, that you were there, and everything about you except for exactly who you were; trying to recall the face of the WoL just fails, and a lot of your minor, personal details can't be remembered.
However, just like Hydaelin before you, you still empower certain people in the world as Warriors of Light, and you live on through their legacy. After finishing 6.0, you get a phantasia to use and the story begins again with you entering your home city wearing a set of traveler's clothes and no one knows who you are or what you've done. You meet a new set of companions and occasionally get to see Thancred, Y'shtola, et al during your adventures but they're always distant to you and only interact with you as an acquaintance.
Post-6.0 brings you back to adventuring in a small way, and new players can begin the story from that point since everything after 6.0 only references the aftermath of what came before, not the story specifics. No need to jump off the deep end and have you unravel the 13th right away or still try to expand on the final days, everything is easing you in slowly with a new game+ redux that diverges to a new mystery and a new story to take part in.
did NOT read.
Wow, I hate everything you wrote. Impressive. Really.
IMO this was kind of okay at first but you dropped the ball when you reintroduce the scions
Man you really know how to make me hate a story. Bravo!
I think a lot of people including myself are looking at 7.0 to see where they stand going forward. If content looks to be shit, I'll just sub at the start of the expack and in the x.5 patch
If it is some comfy exploration of a yet unkown continent with some scion buddies I'd be all over it. If they asspull a calamity or some creation ending thread I'd be mad. 'Muh stakes' homosexuals deserve the rope.
>If it is some comfy exploration of a yet unkown continent with some scion buddies I'd be all over it.
Genuinely, why go to yet another unknown land when there are so many gaps in known territory that we never got to fill?
So much potential to learn more about Gelmorra, about Mhach, Amdapor and Nym, explore more of the far east, Hingashi, explore stories about the Ala Mhigan royal family and whatever crazy stuff Theodoric was up to before van Baelsar accidentally his whole country, the Roegardyn islands, literally EVERYTHING in Ilsabard, the Burn, Matsuno Land where all the Tactics/XII countries sit, etc. etc. etc.
So many places full of holes that need filling, why go to yet another new place to add even more holes for a single expansion and never finish exploring satisfactorily?
I wouldn't mind expanding on existing territories either. Especially the far east beeds to feel more fleshed out. Point is I don't want another high stakes disaster journey.
The definitive shit ending with the most lamest final boss of all ff ( i know its a crappy tradition of ff) and character butchering and fujo pandering
tbh the story ended in Shadowbringers post-patch
Endwalker was wrapping up the scrap threads and by Zodiark there was nothing besides Zenos
Fair warning, if Pandemonium ends with more WoL wank & Elidibus swears to see their future through, I'm done. FF14 will be ethically irredeemable if no amount of death & suffering is too much to sacrifice for the WoL to exist, it will just be a game that panders to narcissists.
this is a real barry tweet
>5IQ twittergay incapable of comprehending the themes behind Emet's character, just sees genocide and screeches
NPCism. Many such cases. Sad!
There is only one solution
https://files.catbox.moe/3heob4.mp4
All they had to do was add a relic grind, and no one would even think of doomposting.
I can guarantee that the people that are doomposting currently are the same people that very likely shat on Bozja and Eureka being part of the relic.
Eureka deserve shit on that
Nah, I doompost and loved Bozja and Eureka. Try again.
You are correct despite the fact Eureka was shit and bozja while a step in the right direction still wasn't super great regardless of the quality people will always b***h about what they do for the relic no matter what they do people will flip and hate it with all their being.
All they had to do after bozja was made a mediocre story and make the zones for it not look like shit. Why was that so hard
SE bent the knew too limsa idlers and now here we are.
Yoshitpiss left the game to amateurs dev members and focus on his shit gow/dmc clone
EW feels like it exclusuvely catered to Savage raider and ut sucks.
>muh island
Can be enjoyed by casuals and savage troons.
>EW feels like it exclusuvely catered to Savage raider and ut sucks.
You mean the first to finish Eureka and Bozja?
XVI siphoning off the real talent and funds.
For real, does the encounter design feel worse this time around? Very few of the fights are actually enjoyable over the entire spectrum from ex dungeons to ultimate.
I'm an idiot hoping that 7.0 comes out the gate blowing out Endwalker and making it seem like we got a filler expansion in hindsight
>>All ecelebs quit
scene is dead
And how is this negative?
Personally happy that as many shitters as possible left until 7.0.
Means the post patch glam will be more unique
Y'shtola is cute, cute!!!
Old
>sex drive of a 30+
>body eternally 23
Seems like a win-win to me.
>Matsya
NOT HIM TOO
>Can't see shit
>But only when its story convenient
>ACKTULLY she has special aether vision now which is useful because the writers said so
>Can still read books too so it's like nothing happened
>Teleports to aetherial sea once again
>Think surely she's even more messed up for pulling the same ARR stunt twice
>Nope
>*sips tea without spilling any of it*
Meanwhile Thancred needs cartridges constantly charged for him
Yeah, she is pretty cool and one of the few people who can hope to keep up with the WoL.
How does she "keep up" with the WoL when she is always dead or fricking off somewhere else? She is the worst one at keeping up with you.
I think Urianger recharges Thancred cartridges every day and then "recharges" his "cartridge" every night if you get what I'm saying
im one those that think thancred should have died in shb. what the frick does he bring besides a tank trust? he can be replaced easy. now the fricking butthole is looking for more wars for the wol to fight in!?. what a fricking butthole.
"Being a cool character that can do cool things" would be the most simple answer, I suppose.
no now hes the responsible type that tard wrangles urianger. its a damn shame.
Well, when everybody was recoiling from Meteion's big entrance, Thancred was the only one to get up and try to strike an actual blow. I think that's cool.
I don't know, there's an infinite number of things you can do with a living character, but not a lot you can do with a dead one. Saying "why is this person alive, they should have died" in most cases just seems shortsighted.
Not really shortsighted. i wish alisaie and graha tia were dead all the time.
They made it seem like he was gonna die at the end of his duel with Ran'jit. Which shouldn't have even happened considering he blocked his Gunblade with two fingers earlier in the expac.
the thancred, mifilia, ryne story was so boring. then the wol just kills ranjit easy because they needed an extra boss fight. what a waste of time. alisaie and that arc were so shit in 5.0
Alisaie and Feo Ul lusting over us was kino we'll never get back
alisaie really needs to frick off and get herself her own personality instead of latching on to alphinaud and being a loud c**t.
i want feo ul to be hildibrand/midgarsomr tier. the only people that see the wols true feelings are immortal dragons, mystery homies, schizo souls in the wol, and fairy queens.
>Get herself her own personality instead of latching onto Alphinaud
I agree
more
but without alphanaud
more
but give Alphinaud the breasts instead
bros i want to tease alisaie by making her boobs expand so bad
post full. I need those nipples
I honestly just think Y'stola should have died in ARR. She is just a big fricking nothing. A useless character who hasn't done anything really and even when they are trying to do something interesting with her or flesh out her character into anything it just fails. She wasnt even interesting or good enough to have her own sacrifice speach.
>Doing Rival Wings tonight
>Entire goddamn raid gets wiped at mid
>Everyone goes for north tower after
>Nobody uses mechs
>Meanwhile blue team sends an entire legion of mechs thanks to getting mid to our south tower and nobody bothers to try to stop them
>Simultaneously nobody is even on offense in Mechs, but somehow manage to get their north tower down to 4%
>They bust through our south gate and again, nobody is stopping them
>Everyone in chat: "lmao ez lose" "Just let them win guys" "yeah might as well just give up
>There's still over 8 minutes left btw
>quit match while our core is at 50% hp rather than take the L.
I'm officially done with PvP in this game.
Lol lmao, if my team isn't going mid then I already know I got blizz matched with the shitters, I will try a little bit, but if they blitz through and break both towers then I'm just going to make the match shorter
45 Days
>playing EO with my friends
>doing arr relics
>doing trials together for relic tomes
>buying stuff from the moggle event
>getting ready for the blu patch
What’s the problem?
>he didn't clear EO several times by now
>he didn't do all of that other shit years ago
get with the program slowpoke.
Your fault for no lifeing the game.
Any person who does more than 1 ARR relic per year has to be a virgin
are you serious? ARR relics are not that bad. i did all of them in like a 2 year span.
I’ve played XIV since 1.0 beta/launch, cause it was my first MMO and I decided to stick with it. This online explosion with trannies in the game is just ridiculous. I don’t get it, something happened that everything just feels fake and off.
Nah. It’s cute anime girls that you’re able to make that caused all this. What the frick is a troony going to do in wow? Erp as a cutesy cow or a decomposing corpse?
Ohhh... now the furry dragon race makes more sense.
>*pauses interrogation*
>He twitched his fingers as he said yes. this indicates that he is possibly lying, or at the very least hes being deceiving.
>*unpauses*
>"I-"
>*pauses interrogation*
>He said I with a pause, that indicates potential lying or deception, no one says I like that without hiding something
Sex with Vieras.
>arya stark face
It finished it's ten year long story which was it's main appeal and climaxed. We went to the edge of the universe and defeated the ultimate big bad.
The director is even working on a different game now. Whats wrong with XIV just being done?
Haven't played the game but my guess is that they didn't implement an impregnation feature. Also it seems to be a hive for trans groomers so there's that.
I kind of hate how much of a shithole Eorzea is
I just keep wanting to say "frick it let garlemald have it if they really want this place so fricking bad, because I don't"
As I was playing ARR Gaius and his gay speech just started making more and more sense.
so does lyse too. frick those mhiggers and domans. they can go free their own country.
>so does lyse
I miss Lyse asking the obvious question the player is always thinking in order to further explain the story.
Nowadays everyone is just an open book the moment WoL says hi. Or they commit the worst offense and bring in a random secondary npc to have a conversation between themselves as WoL just eavesdrops
That's normal. He's well intentioned but completely blind to the empire's own corruption.
The story needs to go another planet and leave the other places of ours for side content, like what villains they could bring after Ascians, Allagans, Garlemalds and Dragons?
The only villain from the old lore they could bring will be an evil WoL from another shard
>hey, WoL, the lambs of Dalamud are up to something, go look into that, it's probably nothing
>oh frick they found some kind of ancient sealed Mhachi vault and awakened some kind of giant evil black magic monster! It's like the magical equivalent of Omega!
>oh frick it's going on a rampage and it'll cause untold destruction if it's not stopped! Quick WoW, chase it to [whatever corner of the land it fled to], put a stop to it!
Reaper is shit to play, jobs have been watered down so much tank is basically just blue dps rather than the stance dancing aggro holding chad it was.
healers are fricking braindead one button jobs with no real reason to exist unless your team is moronic which odds are they aren't in normal content.
Unironically the core issue is that the jobs suck, the job leveling sucks, levels 1-50 are such a fricking slog because of how gutted your kit is and that's if you're playing one of the 5 jobs with actual buttons.
If you're leveling shit like a tank or healer good luck not falling sleep as all you have is heal or single target skill until maybe level 70.
WoL is such a cute moron. I think more games should have cute morons as their main character.
I am having fun..
>summoner
>white mage
>dark knight
>summoner
>white mage
>summoner
>summoner
Give me back shb hidden gorge
Still playing
How?
without wanting to end yourself?
what the frick?
i did this back when T2 was available and bought every single item in the gold saucer
i kind of want to do it again for portal maps but i know i'll never ever use them.
What would you spam to do it as efficiently as possible?
either tamtara (hard) or A1N as a blue mage.
BLU shouldn't be eligible to earn rewards or progress relics tbh.
why?
I just don't like em is all.
Understandable, carry on, have a nice day.
*sticky tongue's your butthole*
why?
Why?
why?
oh so this is why i keep getting that shitty dungeon in 50/60/70/80 roulette, moronic sprouts keep queuing for it for tomestones
I guess he really likes Nier.
Whats wrong with the XIV forums?
bozja was dogshit and matsuno is a washed up hack. i never want to see any of his content again. holy shit what a Black person like his fanboys.
YSTHOLA, THANCRED, URIANGER, ESTINIEN
get new outfits or does that only come with new jobs?
they don't have to get a new job necessarily to get a new outfit, it's just that's the most obvious excuse to give a character a new outfit
I mean maybe?
To be honest I doubt they'll change Y'shtola's outfit. it's like too recognizable at this point
Hot take: None of the Scions are good characters
>They're all the scholar archetype since they're all from Sharlayan (who thought this was a good idea?),
>have had absolutely zero character development since ARR besides Thancred and Alphinaud
>Zero conflict or drama ever between them
>They have zero flaws and are awesome at everything the plot needs them to be
>Are essentially cardboard cutouts that just exist to give the WOL exposition and platitudes nonstop.
I blame the fact that they are all MMO quest giver NPCs (they all did jackshit in base ARR besides help the WOL 2 times whilst otherwise letting you do 100% of the actual work and adventuring) that the writers attempted to elevate into actual main characters in Post-ARR, but never shook off their MMO quest giver NPC. They were never written to be actual main characters, just npcs to give the WOL shit to do throughout base ARR.
Add all this to the fact that they all have indestructable plot armor at this point so now nobody feels there is any risk of them dying or suffering in any serious way so there is not only a lack of tension from the lack of drama between them, but a lack of tension from the complete and utter lack of threat to themselves since if they "die" it'll just end up being their 1millionth fakeout death so nobody actually cares. There's nothing even the greatest writers in the world, even given total creative freedom, could do with these "characters" besides put them on a bus or kill them off.
Contrast the Scions with Ardbert and his party and it's night and day. The latter are actual characters with individual flaws and who conflict with one another like actual human beings do with their friends. I have no idea how there is even a single person who likes any of the scions. They suck, they have always sucked, they're not characters, they're exposition and platitude dispensers masquarading as characters.
cold take. i hope youre not the yugiri poster.
>Why isn't every game wacky banter or left 4 dead
moron
I'd love if the next arc separated them from the story permanently, having a fresh start somewhere would be so much fun.
agreed. just leave the eorzea baggage and kriles dogshit organization baggage at home. just be a literal who not ADVENTURER bullshit and lets make new friends again or save some cute princesses kingdom or go explore ancient ruins.
Estinien is the best one by far and one of the most fleshed out characters in the game, the frick you talking about dumb Yugiri poster?
Estinien was not a scion till EW so he actually got to have character development.
Bro, he had an arc all through HW.
Au'ra scales will never not just look like a bad skin condition to me. What were they thinking? How did they manage to frick up something as simple as dragon people?
They aren't dragon people though, they were supposed to be succubi/incubi.
>they were supposed to be succubi/incubi.
No they weren't and I will never understand how this headcanon has survived for so long. This comes from their introduction presentation in which Yoshida said their character creation options allowed for a demonic/succubus kind of look. Somehow that almost instantly turned into "THEY'RE DEMONS!!!"
Xaela are the only good looking ones. No idea how people stand to play ugly Rean.
>Au'ra
Oh shit new race?
Aura should've just been anime Tieflings. Their lack of ears looks really wierd. Shouldve given them pointy ears, and horns protruding from their forheads not the sides of their heads, just go full demon girls like they intended in the concept art.
So explain Urianger then? He has a lot of character too.
If you think ARR Urianger and EW Urianger are the same you are high off your own farts.
>have had absolutely zero character development since ARR besides Thancred and Alphinaud
Urangier and Estinien have had plenty of development. Urangier's character arc went from ARR to almost the very end of the EW MSQ.
they retconned the shit out of alphinaudds growth in 5.4 til now for the stupid daddy issues story line with forchenault. alisaie has been flanderized after coils.
How does the, uh heart on her pussy stay on?
>How does the, uh heart on her pussy stay on?
It's a dildo with a heart-shaped cap at the end
FFXVII online when
probably never
the genre is dead
Riot's MMO is vaporware
AoC is a scam
Every Korean MMO is a scam
it's over
WILL THE NEW VARIANT DUNGEON WITH HIEN BE ABOUT HIS STUPID CHILDHOOD AGAIN OR SOMEHOW RELATE TO NAGXIA LATER ON?
if its about his parents or something it will just be a nanamo repeat
i rather have a gosetsu religious eastern mysticism quest instead.
Same. I just can't see any other way Hien's variant dungeons will play out. It all points to Doma's past, his family and idk some super secret I guess he didnt know until now that wont matter in the grand scheme of things.
Of course Ganker threads look too much like /vg/ threads at times, /vg/ loves to raid threads here because their mental ward isn't enough attention for them.
How is the official forum worse than these threads or reddit
Haven’t played since HW. Is it still a theme park mmo with 2.5s GCD and no build varieties for jobs? Because if so, I’m genuinely shocked that it lasted this long. Story homosexuals really did ruin this genre.
if any of you fricking "doomers" were right, then subscriber numbers would be below 1.3 million subs.
>it's another golbez jelqing on his throne cutscene
AYO. PICK UP THE PHONE
bro but from hereon he shall walk alone
Heron, I jelq alone.
she filtered billions, and its for that reason that EW is the best expansion. you can tell who went into EW thinking if not hoping she would turn out to be evil by how they try to do mental gymnastics into making her evil
someone post that Venat sex imgur album plz
i love my mother
>are we slaves to her will.
I guess im a trancer because i wanted wol to be tempered but they came up with that stupid WE TAUGHT YOU WRONG ON PURPOSE dogshit.
I wasn't disappointed she wasn't evil per se, but I was definitely disappointed with how Endwalker make her much less intelligent than see seemed before
>there are unironic scion haters itt
They're boring and every time we go treasure hunting with them they donate the entire haul to some homosexual orphans.
this game brought me out of my OSRS-induced stupor and made me realize I hate MMOs, thanks for the help lads
You're welcome, go play something fun, Anon
thancred should've taken his bottle and broken it over magnus' head teebeeaitch
magnus be like
>MUH WIFE
>The wife in question:
that's because xiv isn't an mmo. It's a ff game where your party members are played by other people, and even that doesn't have to be the case anymore with trusts being expanded every major patch.
oh i'm going to finish out the msq, but running across the time gated tribal quest filler shit every expansion stuck with me in a way that farming vorkath didn't
the thancred roleplay mission is probably one of the worst quests in the entire game. It is unbelievably tedious. To the point where it'll take like 10 minutes+ to defeat that dumb fricking monk guy on very easy mode, which you'll only be on because every single stupid role play scenario gives the boss a 1-shot mechanic for some fricking reason. I don't even know why they keep insisting on adding these guttershit fricking scenarios. If they really wanted it to seem like the scions were doing something, then have them join in fricking instanced quests and give them like duo moves you can engage with them in, like your squadrons. Role play scenarios are the dumbest fricking thing they've added in the game.
>I don't even know why they keep insisting on adding these guttershit fricking scenarios.
I'm pretty sure they're supposed to be job showcases.
"Hey, look how cool being a Red Mage could be!" as they give you a watered down version of the job that tries to sell you on the fantasy of being a slashy casty mage hybrid
but they always make the job look SHIT. If i didn't already like GNB i'd never touch it after seeing it as thancred. It's so fricking moronic that they think giving a fricking 4 button overly long tedious fricking mission as the job class that is in no way representative of how the job will play will somehow get people to want to try it. It's just so fricking stupid. I don't even know what the developers are thinking constantly adding in these dumbfrick roleplay scenarios. It actually boggles my fricking mind. Like I remember seething during the entire thancred fight completely certain no fricking developer actually playtested this shit or they'd have realized a 10+ forced msq fight as a fricking watered down tank job is actual torture. Like I was getting fricking flashbacks to trying to do dailies as a prot warrior in wow or some shit. Just pure suffering.
SHB and EW are made for different people than ARR-SB were. And it has worked out tremendously.
Ah of course. That explains everything. I now love excruciatingly long tank fights with 4 whole buttons. I hope they extend the next one to 30 minutes.
my game crashed on that fight and i was close to the end i was so pissed i had to do it over again
sounds painful
>SB era
>doomposts about Eureka
>threads still manage to be lively
>EW era
>doomposts about Island Sanctuary and relics
>every single thread is 80% reposts from OF, twitter, or previous thread over and over and over since the launch of EW
You know the game is in a bad spot when Ganker threads have less variety than/vg/ threads. Looking forward to EU FF so we can finally get a crumb of gameplay info for 7.0.
when is EU FF? NA is going to be soon right?
are you too lazy to level it or something?
October. NA is in July but there's never anything of value at NA FF besides title drop of next expansion. EU shows a new job, art, and locations. JP has full trailer, second job, and is mostly dedicated to info about the new expansion.
Doesn't the first one also reveal a random job? Could have sworn SAM was revealed at the first fanfest.
They're "revealed" but you don't know anything about them until EU.
you are wrong, the first fanfest is usually the CG teaser and the first job, the second fanfest is the full trailer and the second job and the third one is the Expansion trailer (with the game engine) and the last details of it
wol waking up on a deserted beach and becoming a corsair will be kino.
Hello secondary. Launch trailers come iut a few weeks before release, those are in-engine. The CG trailer is released in thirds with the finished one being at JP FF.
First teaser trailer is the important one, it gives us an idea of what's happening next and at this point that could literally be fricking anything. I'm happy that even though we've seen 3 patches of nothing that 6.4 HAS to give us a lead.
To be fair we still had no fricking clue where 5.0 was gonna take us even with the first trailer.
>tfw started playing at some point in late SB/early ShB and without any spoilers thought that it was some kind of time travel story about the far future and that the sin eater you fight in the trailer was literally an avatar of Halone
I'm still confused on why Thancred says "this town has clearly changed and not for the better" if Eulmore was not supposed to be some kind of future Limsa.
Didn't Thancred arrive on the First first? He's been there for like 5 years when we show up, I guess Eulmore had changed between him arriving and then saving Minfilia.
Eulmore used to be a bulwark against the sin eaters who fought fiercily via the various Minfilias. By the time Ryne came up, Eulmore was now ruled by Vauthry who started coexisting with the sin eaters and imprisoned her.
Thancred saw both sides of Eulmore, he had been there for 5 years
It's because it still looks exactly like Limsa but with more decorations, and if you read his lodestone short story he notices all the similarities. There's a kind of synchronicity going on. Whoever designed Eulmore got visions of Limsa or something.
I think it's a simpler "hey, this general area looks like it'd be a really good spot to build a port city, ain't it?" kind of thing that remains true across all reflections since they all share roughly the same default geography with the Source being the most screwed up and the Thirteenth being... melted.
But it's not just the location. The main building is also the same, Eulmore just has the gold capped towers and those big balloons on top.
>I'm still confused on why Thancred says "this town has clearly changed and not for the better" if Eulmore was not supposed to be some kind of future Limsa.
The cinematic trailers are in production far ahead of the actual expansion, so they've never been representative of the final product's events. The script for the former has to be finished at least a year before the script for the expansion is set in stone.
This and also the fact SHB script was changed a decent amount, it looks like Ryne was supposed to be a child originally instead of a teen. The Amano art has the DRK knight holding her as a wee child and Eden was supposed to be the final boss instead of Emet, but they handwave the trailer pretty well by implying it's set in the years before the WoL returns. Also explains why the twins are absent from it due to being the newest arrivals before WoL.
Remember time between shards being finnicky? Lmao, now THAT was a dropped plot point.
nah the new stage writer guy has that in his pocket for whatever golbez is going to do and its going to be moronic.
Nah, at the very start, the Fiends already talk about CoD's defeat like it was a couple weeks ago. The timeskip between shards has been utterly and completely dropped, only serving as a convenient narrative device for the start of 5.0
It's still going to be vague but even a vague idea in this situation is going to give us a ton of information. Are we going to see a new setting on this planet? Another shard? More of the void? The story can go literally anywhere so any tiny shred of concrete info is welcome.
Because it was vague on purpose, the latter half of 4.X is setting you up to fight Garlemald then you get whisked away on an isekai journey while Garlemald is killed off-screen. None of the other teasers are vague like SHB was.
This raid tier was genuinely awful and the most unfun Ive had with this game yet (speaking as a SB baby). I know lots of people that quit completely because the extremes and savage raids this tier were really fricking bad.
Most of EW was terrible, Savage tiers sucked ass and were mostly annoying as frick, some of the extremes were the worst things ever, but I do like Zodiark and Barb's EX. The highlights however were both Ultimates which I really enjoyed clearing with my homies, the criterion dungeon which was fun on the 4 player variant, and Orthos. They need to make the final savage tier enjoyable and somehow tie up the MSQ in a good way or this expac is mostly going to be canned outside of the Ultimates. God I really just want a good patch for some good content, I've been making side groups for old Ultimates to help some people just because I'm bored of just TOP reclears but I'm gonna burn myself out of the game at this point.
The story finished and the new one hasn't really started yet. We're just in a holding pattern waiting for 7.0, or at the least the reveal in 6.5.
>The chills and cheers felt when the first SHB trailer dropped at NA fanfest and G'raha (unknown at the time) said Become the warrior of darkness and then the Shadowbringer name popped in
>G'raha
>(unknown at the time)
No one knew mr. Throw wide the gates was g'raha homo. People kept saying it was alphinaud in the 5.4 trailer
4.4* my bad
everyone knew you tard
Is that so?
People are fricking moronic as usual, 14 brings back old characters all the time.
>make the CT maditory now
>eternal wind plays as g'raha is sealing himself inside
I'm glad I played ShB before they got hamhanded with the set up.
If they think CT is mandatroy enough to make it required fricking Omega should be too. The game still works if you did not do CT since the one Graha comes from can just be from another timeline that you did do the tower. It isnt like the Alliance raid is helpful, interesting or useful beyond based as frick Nero being in it.
Every 8 man and 24 man should be mandatory for unlocking the next expansion.
Yes you WILL do Nier
Make Eureka mandatory.
>Make Eureka, Bozja and the allied role quests for SHB and EW mandatory
Do it NOW
7.0 will be content doers paradise
>next expansion we literally go to Nier's Earth
>Nier is made mandatory
>Ganker seethes
Make it happen.
holy frick this. the matsuno homosexuals would cry and shit their pants and continue to play an old 8 year raid that sucked dick.
>hehe here's a screencap of a few bait posts disagreeing with the prevailing theory that means it wasn't the theory 99.999% of the playerbase bought into
Sorry to tell you shadowbab but the vast majority of people didn't think it was G'raha. Even THE biggest loregay who literally got hired to fact check the official lorebook didn't think it was G'raha.
>samegay larping as an oldgay
tell me the name of the ability people who screamed at healers for forgetting to cast in instances pre-shb without googling
Protect? Stoneskin? Shroud of Saints? Cleric Stance? There were quite a few.
lol, knew you were a larper
anyone who actually played the game back then would have instantly know which one i was thinking of specifically instead of googling "removed ffxiv healer abilities" and listing as many as possible hoping to pass as an oldgay
I'm supposed to know which of the half dozen abilities you could have been thinking of based on your moronicly vague description? have a nice day, Black person. You will never be an oldgay.
SHBabby destroyed
>d00d look at the vanity item from my bought account who cares if I can't tell something literally anyone who did more than 10 dungeons pre-shb would immediately guess i am an oldgay please take me seriously!!!
lol
lmao
Thanks for letting everyone know you just wanted to bait
guy saying people didn't believe g'raha was crystal exarch calling others baiters
lmaooooo
You want to fit in so bad
Im glad you never experienced DRK when it was good
Graha being the exarch was easy to figure out, Lyse being the *red girl* was the only one that got me, because Lyse is a flat a board, literal false marketing.
That post literally proving that only the biggest morons thought it wasn't Graha the second he was shown at all.
It's gonna be funny in three weeks when everyone starts claiming it was obvious that Golbez was Azdaja and everyone knew it the whole time
Isn't Azdaja going to just be the shadow dragon we presumably fight in the dungeon of the next patch? Golbez could basically be anybody. I'm more curious if they are going to do anything with Zero via the way of Zeromus
That was the original assumption, but this time the 'shadow dragon' and Golbez are going to be one and the same.
>"One born of a dragon"
>Golbez's name refers to a type of fly said to be born out of a dragon's corpse
>we've already been given an example of dragon's piloting puppet bodies
>Vrtra very oddly made sure to remind us before this whole thing began that dragon genders are arbitrary, and this wasn't pozzed localization stuff because it was also in JP, meaning it's relevant to something (such as why Golbez has a man's voice)
>why did Golbez even care that the Alzadaal gate was opened?
>how did Golbez know that the dragon eye would attract Vrtra's attention, or that Vrtra was even one of the people fricking around in the Void?
>who's holding the sword on the new patch art?
>Spoil the frick out of the new trial by telling us it's name and even showing a picture, albeit a zoomed in one of Golbez
You'd also question why he doesn't just absorb all of the dragons power and only lets the underlings take a little bit.
Also, how did Golbez get to the moon. Maybe because... his species can fly through space?
I can't believe Hydaelyn, the Watcher, Zenos, Fandaniel, Zodiark, Elidibus, the WoL and all the Scions, Hildibrand, Nashu, Godbert, PuPu, that one weird reporter and a bunch of garleans and also the Warriors of Darkness are all dragons
Hydaelyn made the moon and put the Watcher on it and Zodiark inside it. Elidibus was an Ascian and could teleport. Everyone else teleported with the Tower of Babil. Does Golbez have a Tower of Babil?
Please tell me this post is a joke and you aren't thinking this was a smart reply.
No, you're right, I'm an idiot, I forgot to mention Meteion too. Thanks, friend.
Wait until they're rejoined.
Golbez at this point is pretty obviously Azdaja, the real question is what/who is Zero and how will she be used in the story, so far she hasn't actually done much of anything.
>Golbez at this point is pretty obviously Azdaja
Jesus christ stop this moronic theory
ok
Yaeh cuz he took her eye and gave it to Cognazzo dum dum
You're on the right track anon, keep thinking.
While I am pretty sure they are the same as you stated, I am still hoping for Holbez being an Azem shard. This might mostly be due to the fact that I do not like Zero and an desperatly hoping she is not an Azem shard. I wish she would frick right off.
gonna be funny seeing you in the screencap for being a moron
To be fair, they completely rewrote his character and then he has just been a lump of ugly nothing since his reveal. I wish one of the clone twins lived instead of simp cat. His whole plot is a fricking stupid mess anf would be better without him ever being written into the game.
That moment in Radz-at-han where he channels the Exarch again and becomes a competent leader for a whole 2 seconds made me mad. Why couldn't he remain like that?
Everytime we see grandpa Raha he's great and then he gets immediately ruined with fanboy Raha with his one-note adventure obsession.
Dude should be wise beyond his years, it's not a problem to show some light moments but fricking give me more of the mature fellow.
G'raha knows of our exploits through the lenses of legends passed down by others in his timeline. So he's always been a huge fan of ours but he had to lead people for a long time during a near end of the world scenario until a time came where he could summon us. Of course he acts like a huge simp during less stressful times with us. Did you ignore his final monologue at the end of 5.3 as we run to the next adventure?
Not defending it just saying it makes sense he acted serious when it was needed. I do wish he would act more grown up at times.
I know why he acts like that, I don't think it's out of character or anything like that. I just wish he was more mature more often.
The simping gets tiring when he becomes anime boy looking up at his senpai type simping. I wish he had a more mature form of respecting and admiring us such as the one Estinien has when he recognizes us as the Azure Dragoon.
See, you make the mistake of thinking he is or was any different before. He isnt at all different with the hood on or with it off. He is still a rabid fanboy of you who just worships your reputation and legend but doesn't really know you.
I don't get him being a good leader too, when you show up with an super tower the main threat of can't even touch and have all the tech inside there to help you build your city. Of course he is going to get followers and if they play nice they get to live in his protected area, there is no leadership fricking involved. He gets handed all the keys to everything for EZ mode.
Any of the scions there could have stood up and done exactly what he did, they just needed him to do something in the expansion because he does frick all.
Building up a fricking city for refugees and somehow making it work is not an easy thing to do even with bullshit tower tech, especially when you are alone and the only thing you studied is the story of a battle autist killing dragons and Allagan history.
Let's not pretend the dude wasn't competent as a leader, he made up an entire city by nothing and united various people that had no relation to eachother by winning their trust and respect.
No other scion could do that, Y'shtola is the closest and she just hid in a cave after killing a bunch of randos to win good boy points with the shadow boys
Did it take much work though?Desperation brings people tofether united against a common goal. They followed him because he is the only one who can control the magic tech and tower keeping you safe. I was probably harsh on mu first words but lets not pretend he wasn't working on EZ mode, especially since he admits he was only doing it to impress the WoL when he actually summoned them.
>Y'shtola is the closest
How the frick do you figure this when Y'shtola is by far the least devloped and likes to be by herself?
Y'shtola also had a group of people who would follow her.
Urianger could keep the faes at a wide berth thanks to his autism, Thancred was brooding and going muh daughter, Alphinaud was doing nothing important and Alisaie was busy scissoring with that girl in Amh Araeng. Y'shtola is the only scion who could theoretically lead a group of people so she is the closest.
G'raha having an advantage does not take away from the fact that his was still an impressive achievement, the city is huge, functional and secure. If people clung together for safety and nothing else you'd get Eulmore's shanty town. There are clear parallels there to drive this point home.
They only followed her due to the fire that broke out and she was the one who lead them out. They have gone downhill and live in caves now and haven't rebuilt since she started leading. If anything it seems it has gotten worse for them. Thancred we know also can lead teams on missions and has done so. Urianger had a harder job of keeping the far more dangerous fairies at bay while also making them allies at the same time. The whole point though is that any of the scions there could have done what Graha did at Radz-at-Hahn. Even better would have been if your WoL could have done something instead of just stand their uselessly.
Graha is still a simp, he should have stayed fricking dead in ShB on top of the tower and every single scene they try to make you like him in he has he gets overshadowed by other characters in it who take over it.
>I don't get him being a good leader too, when you show up with an super tower the main threat of can't even touch and have all the tech inside there to help you build your city. Of course he is going to get followers and if they play nice they get to live in his protected area, there is no leadership fricking involved. He gets handed all the keys to everything for EZ mode.
And you also solve all the problems in Garlemald by showing up with a frickhuge convoy full of relief supplies and experts to help survivors from a disaster, and look how that went.
Considering Garlemald has been brianwashed into thinking you are evil for generations it went pretty well.
>alliance graha
man hes decent not embarassing at all.
>eureka orthos graha
simping fool again .
what the frick cant the writers agree with any consistency ?
I had a small amount of hope when he actually scolded you if you made a comment towards Y'stola. He just sank back down to trash though after yeah. I enjoyed telling him I like going on adventures alone to crush his dreams. I should replay the sacrifice part in EW where you can shit on him again.
>every graha cutscene wol gets midlander emotes.
>wol never shits on him or gets weirded out by him.
>please take me on ANOTHER adventure
what a simpering Black person. if that wasnt emotional manipulation i dont know what is anons. i guess the women like it though.
I dont get it either and I am a woman., he is just an awful character who creeps me the frick out. At least with Zenos it isn't treated like a good thing. Honestly I like Zenos more since he actually gets your WoL more than your stalker cat gets your WoL.
>Tell Deryk I like to be alone sometimes
>G'raha looks heartbroken
I think my aversion to the cat stems from the fact that I can't stand clingy people.
>unknown at the time
Literally guessed it was him the first moment we saw the exarch on a poster, I could tell by the homosexual lips of face 3 catboys
Devs CANNOT help but dumb down everything. They simply refuse to stop being casual-brained fricking morons.
The only way to have any sort of complexity in the game anymore is to play Savage as a Black Mage, and that gets pretty fricking old, pretty fricking fast.
Here's a fact of life you have to realize to understand mmos, mmo players are fricking stupid. The current STATE of xiv is just a consequence of the main audience being mmo players.
It was fine during Stormblood, playerbase was only growing. Population exploded due to story at ShB and showed no signs of decline. Ironically dumbing it down has only turned a lot of people off, since the non-savage content is so piss easy that even for a lot of casuals it gets boring.
>t. was in an FC with a lot of casuals who slowly got blackpilled on the game over the constant dumbing down of class mechanics
I just don't understand why SE is so afraid to leave one genuinely complex class in each role, to appeal to players that want that complexity. Why are ALL the tanks boring as shit? Why are all the healers except maybe AST boring as shit (dw it will get nuked for 7.0)?
The game has never been complex, you're mistaking poor design for complexity.
>b-but what about
No, things like old SMN were fricking awful and the only reason anyone played it was because (at times) it did insane dps. The job was always a frickfest of jank and XIV doesn't have a functional pet system like XI did so it was never going to work unless they actually figured out how to do it. The handful of contrarians who will say they loved it and that it was the coolest job ever are just yanking your chain, shit sucked man.
>b-but new smn is too simple
Yeah, it kinda is, but what you're forgetting is that they need something to build on for the future and this new SMN is a great platform to do so. People freaked out when they talked about changing DRG but that's because they are too blind to see the looming issue with jobs not having the ability to be added to without it turning things to shit.
>No, things like old SMN were fricking awful
>Old SMN
>fricking awful
Stopped reading.
Old SMN filtered brainlets by having slightly janky pet AI that was NOT at all hard to play around, but required some amount of brainpower, and morons pissed and shit themselves crying "IT'S INCONSISTENT REEEEEE" because they were too fricking stupid to figure it out.
>Old SMN filtered brainlets
Liking poorly designed job didn't make you better than anyone else, you brainlet.
Post your old SMN median parses. Go on.
SCH still has ghosting issues with the fairy, it's jank through and through.
>It was fine during x,y,z
People were always complaining about one thing or another. The reason why they kept playing was because there was usually a reword or balance pass on the horizon. mmo players aren't as competent as you think they are and any anecdotes you have are meaningless when mmo players are the type that will whine for hard content then cheat when they get it.
>but I know a casual shitter that stopped playing the game because they dumbed down his job
Understand that mmo players love to talk big. They love to speak as if they know what they're talking about when they actually don't.
Jumping puzzles stress me the frick out.
Not bad, HOWEVER...
A TRUE WARRIOR OF LIGHT
Figures a cat would climb so fast
I unironically love the jumping puzzles in XIV. One of the only remaining aspects of it SE hasn't fricked with and has stayed fun.
Playing BLM in general is just fricking boring.
BLM is easily the most interesting and engaging job
if you're an extreme autist
>people still parot this crap when BLM is more mobile than RDM
Standing still and pressing the correct buttons in order is not much different than moving around and pressing the correct buttons in order.
Muh enochian is not an excuse anymore and muh polyglot isn't that engaging either.
Muh fight knowledge also goes for every job save for ranged physicals who just don't need it.
I won't lie and pretend it's a simple job but it's not this 9000 IQ thing.
not that anon, and it's not a 9000 iq thing, you're right. However, I started XIV player healers, then moved to DPS, then tanks, and really only play BLM now and BLM by far has the highest amount of game knowledge needed to play optimally, while still managing to have fun gimmick spells (ley lines, aetherial manip/between the lines), good visual fx/attack feedback, and an enjoyable rotation.
It's fun because it's an example of how a class CAN be good and still appeal to hardcore players. Most other jobs are fricking boring as shit, feel lame to play, or both (Reaper is a great example of this once you get over the fact it has WaCkY sCrEeNsHaKe WoOoOoAH! on the camera during the skills).
I guess I can agree with that, god knows I wish more classes had more going on.
I don't mind turning off my brain and just focusing on mechanics while playing something like MCH but still, having the choice of at least one complex class per archetype would be better.
>forums
>ecelebs
>twitch
The holy trifecta of nobody fricking cares.
>xiv losing over 70% of its playerbase
>its fine lol
okay /vg/ poster
You're acting like a mmo losing active players during pqtch downtime isn't normal
The problem is only low standard wiener suckers are left and SE know it so they become even lazier
>all the bandwagoners that hopped on because their favorite blizzard simp played for a couple months are leaving
What's the problem?
trash character.
>started playing during the ps3 beta days
>quit during heavensward because i was burned out and focusing on real life crap
>come back for stormblood and end up getting dumped so now i can play basically 24/7
>make tons of gil during this time and go from a small house to a medium one
>think i would stop there but stay grinding
>do the same in shadowbringers and make enough for a large house and get one
>keep it right till the start of endwalker
>sell it to an FC 500 million gil
>finish the 1.0 story
>stopped playing and only do seasonal events
I win.
ilevel sucks and ruined mmos.
Time to unsub and move on.
>tfw no cute viera side kick
6.4 when
A few weeks after TotK officially launches.
graha tia eating a burger
Favorite fight in Endwalker?
zodiark because the music
godbert and hildibrand so far. pure fun.
I'LL BREAK YOUR EVERY BONE.
But also Proto-Carbuncle because I love how they referenced Carbuncle's original appearance as a boss with it.
REJOICE AND PARTAKE OF MY DICK
BEHOLD THE FRUITS OF SACRIFICE
>ancient 12000 year old dragon tells you to buck up , protect your friends, also helps you man to man with urianger
>MUH SISTER MUH SISTER MUH SISTER
they killed vtra and the 2 different body puppets is moronic as well. the only thing to make this all worth it is when we get his sister in a cute lizard body learning how to interact on the source.
Pandering to women always ruin everything
IT'S OVER
Figures the worst hroth face spouts the most moronic shit
Not really related to xiv but I hate how pervasive streamer culture has become.
>What went so horribly wrong with the game?
Being made for ps3
>What went so horribly wrong with the game?
Making Yoshi work on 16. 14 is a cash cow that SE should just leave alone until it stops working.
Also its a downtime patch, people will stop complaining when they have more content to do in 2-3 weeks time for at least a week
i want sex. can i find any women in this game? not trannies btw
Try the Harry Pottery general. Either the blue or red board.
>Streamers don't matter
They kinda do when they have been playing XIV almost every day since 2014
I'm enjoying it
Nobody gives a shit about the forums (not even the devs) and it's a downtime patch for people who actually play the game.
You do realize this is the time to take a break from the game if you want to have one?
>no one is streaming Real Life on Twitch
I guess we should all kill ourselves... RL is dead with no content.
Remember when we spent about half a year thinking Y'shtola was gonna die in Stormblood? Good times.
I wish she did. Zenos would be even more based than he already is.
golbez is lahabrea
They should have made criterion dungeons be something people wanted to do to grind Manderville Weapons
golbez is 20 lalafell stacked on top of one another
Linking to an asmongold video should be a bannable offense.
Have been playing since 2014, game became shit because of casual players
Sure you have
NTA, but I've been playing since ARR. The game started getting shit in SB
Remember the days before Party Finder? I remember.
>rush-resolve every plot thread you have, in some cases fairly unsatisfyingly beyond the initial sugar-rush of Endwalker emotions
>base, fanservice-level writing
>core narrative and thematic elements that make XIV XIV gone entirely within the space of a sentence in extreme cases
>expansion gets praise for being gratifying (which it was)
>but when the gratification wears off, the lack of emotional depth leaves nothing really to chew on and the world, as a whole, is resolved
Turns out blanking your slate just means you have to rebuild from the ground-up and a setting with years of growth, depth, attachment, and history is worth more than the 'freedom' writers would get from destroying it. If this goes on for 10 more years, none of it will even feel like XIV anymore.
Meanwhile mechanically people have lost trust in their job design and they don't see this as the gigantic crisis it is.
>hey we're addressing some issues with your job
Being met with scorn and complaints should really make them look in the mirror as to what they're doing. Ultimately, they want to cater almost exclusively to hyper-casuals to the point where everything needs to be playable while watching 5 different netflix shows. But it doesn't make a very good video game at the end of the day. They're too scared of scaring people off. All the while, most of the activities outside this kiddie pool are SUPER HARDCORE EXTREME SKILL CHALLENGE CIRCULAR ARENA BATTLES. So they're catering to exactly two kinds of player with wildly different needs.
They wrapped shit up with the Beast Tribes way too quickly. It's jarring how quickly the Sahagin and the Amal'jaa let bygones be bygones.
>Sahagin
Fair
>Amal'jaa
We saved practically their entire race from being made into breakfast or otherwise tempered by Jank Bahamut, created by Fandaniel.
>We saved practically their entire race from being made into breakfast or otherwise tempered by Jank Bahamut, created by Fandaniel.
But the problem originally presented is that Ifrit was temper-crazy because he was summoned by a small sect of zealots, and he had tempered all sense of tradition and even self-preservation out of the Amalj'aa. He was frying their brains so that they only thought of continuing to summon him over and over. Which is why the Brotherhood of Ash was fighting back even against their own god. Yet somehow they see us fight Lunar Bahamut and their traditions spontaneously return long enough to decide maybe they should untemper themselves?
Not all Amal'jaa were tempered pre-ShB, anon. Same as not all Sahagin are tempered, not all Kobolds, etc.
They all still believe in and worship their respective gods, but proper tempering is an entirely different ballgame that turns them into drooling "must gather crystals, must summon god, must kill or temper others" primal zombies.
>Not all Amal'jaa were tempered pre-ShB, anon.
The vast majority were, that was the whole problem the Brotherhood of Ash was talking about. The Flamefang cult had completely taken over the majority of the race because of Ifrit's tempering obsession. Leviathan only tempered non-believers and Titan didn't intentionally temper at all. They were totally different beasts.
I mean, you can go into the game and slaughter a bunch of tempered ones still.
Because the next expansion isn't just a continuation, did you forget they said this was the ending of the current saga? Why do you think they went through just about every loose end and tied it up and provided a resolution for every major side story and plot point?
>People still think the next expansion is going to Meracydia
Where do you think we're going then, O prophet? If you respond with "The New World", you're on the same level as Meracydia guessers.
Wipe the progress of your character in the narrative and start from 0 so you can make ARR to EW entirely skippable for new players.
I would hate that so incredibly much.
That will never happen. There are way, way too many fricking NPC's mentioning that you are the Warrior of Light in their sidequests for them to go back and get rid of them all.
And thank god for that. We have an unending codex for a reason. If newbies want to skip the entire story to play the Hot New Thing they can read the cliff notes if they want to follow along.
Anon you still don't get it do you.
>ooh I'm being cryptic, I am le intelligent
Spit it the frick out, moron.
>Yoshi P straight up telling you what's going to happen
>Cryptic
How many "Great Changes" have visited Eorzea thus far? One.
>end of saga end of saga end of saga
All this has to mean is that Ascians, Zodiark, and the Mommycrystal stop being the main story. Not for the setting to transmute itself into something else entirely.
It does because the entire setting is now sat squarely on their shoulders, any story they try to setup is going to find it's way back to the Ancients/Ascians so they can never truly be done with them. Lets also not forget that EW united the entire known world to help the WoL, that's too much to have to excuse to make a new story in the setting.
>the entire known world
>33% of the landmass of Eitherys
We have a lot of other shit to do and see on our own world.
So why haven't these civilizations been mentioned or mattered in the story thus far? Anything we do on the source is going to tie back to the Ancients, we know where the world came from and that it's been guided by the Ascians for it's entire existence, we also now know that there are no true gods so there really isn't much left to do in this world.
What did Ivalice have to do with the Ancients or the Ascians?
When was Ivalice an entire expansion?
It doesn't matter. We've already dealt with a major civilization related to the rest of the lore in pretty major ways without ever having anything to do with Ancients or Ascians.
>So why haven't these civilizations been mentioned
Meracydia was mentioned as early as ARR.
New World mentioned as early as HW.
>no true gods
We are literally in the middle of an alliance raid series telling you to go frick yourself, and that "if you call us primals again we're gonna yeet you into the fricking sun".
>Alliance Raid
Which is very clearly showcasing that they are not gods, they are Ancients or creations of the Ancients.
>Meracydia
Case closed, the Allagans are overdone, Tiamat had her loose end tied up, and we figured out and cured tempering.
>New World
The Garleans harvested fuel there, they are toast and nothing else of note happens there.
Please pay attention to the story holy frick.
>Case closed, the Allagans are overdone
The Meracydian campaign ended 5000 years ago. Who knows what Abo dreamtime voodoo they've been cooking up down there in that time.
>The Garleans harvested fuel there, they are toast and nothing else of note happens there.
The New World is fricking gigantic and we've already been told about a legendary city of gold hiding somewhere.
>Meracydian
The next Eureka/Bozja.
>legendary city of gold
A dungeon.
>48 man raid in the city of gold
SOUL
What did HW have to do with the Ascians? They were in it yes but all the issues going on in Ishgard were of human making before Lahabrea showed up to take advantage of the situation.
The entire culmination of Shadowbringers was us beating up some dude going "we are where all of you came from and we're better than you thus nothing you fricking do matter, now die already" and proving him wrong with a giant statement that everything that came after the ancients DOES matter. The game could not add a single new landmass and we already have enough plot hooks for like three more expansions' worth of adventures, at least.
Also, before anybody else mentions it.
>we beat the literal incarnation of depressed entropy, there's nothing that could match us, we have to go bigger
Next patch will come around, and you'll be fighting a pack of wolves in a dungeon and struggling with it.
WoL's power level is floaty as frick, and in fact that floatiness is WRITTEN INTO THE FRICKING STORY with the giant bright gold"break your limits!" mechanic. Next villain can be some really angry gay that wants to use some ancient Mhachi magic to wipe off the entire population of some part of the world and that would be perfectly serviceable.
WoLs power level is pretty consistent. You have help every major fight, Estinien and Graha could easily wipe the floor with WoL in a 1v1
>Estinien and Graha could easily wipe the floor with WoL in a 1v1
Good one.
Meanwhile in reality
?t=224
That's before he got his blood soaked in double nigghog juice
And you'd still be able to kick his ass.
Yeah and now WoL is amped up on unfiltered Ancient Autism via Azem and pure Dynamis Juice.
Dont forget with Ardbert juined with us we are more rejoined than anyone else that wasn't an ascian.
Yeah that actually does give WoL an immediate edge given how he's now eight times rejoined.
REJOININGS AREN'T LIKE DBZ FUSIONS YOU STUPID Hispanic. Ardbert rejoining gave the WoL a second wind to hold the sin eater cum down. Graha summoned other WoLs. You're amped up on light and have assistance, only to then expend all that light to deal with Hades. You end SHB as you start it, the rejoining isn't some power booster.
>the rejoining isn't some power booster.
This homie skipped Emet's explanation on what rejoining does
>all Eorzeans are 7/14
>struggle with 1/14 voidsent on the regular
The writers don't care about it and neither should you.
Most Eorzeans are just people
Eorzea is a fricking hard place to live in
Some have tons of aether and kick ass
Most don't
So rejoining DON'T make you more powerful? Otherwise, everyone on Ethyris since the start of ARR should be able to kill voidsent with a sneeze. The weakest bum in ul'dah is 7x rejoined over the strongest voidsent.
>I'M RIGHT! SHUT UP STOP POSTING SHIT THAT MAKES ME LOOK DUMB!
Cutscene skipper
Not everyone is a fighter anon I don't know how you're too stupid to lose your own arguments despite changing them
Whos more powerful anon a boxer or your average smo on the street. So whos more powerful an adventurer or your average smo on the street. We've seen other adventurers and combat trained people take on your average voidsent.
If you took the average onions drinking redditor who can't even open the bottle on his own and MULTIPLIED his power by seven he would be able to crush Mike Tyson's skull with his bare hands.
f o o d
a n a l o g y
This homie cant math. If your avg redditor is level 1 while boxers like tyson is lv 9 who has fighting experience. He is still going to out beat your onion sipping level 7 redditor. Even if said redditor got a boost to level 9+ Mike Tysons experience alone would still give him the advantage.
Void Tyson is a 1 because he isn't rejoined. The onions is a 7 due to being rejoined. Rejoined = power boost.
>Continue to say you are a story skipper without saying you are a story skipper.
I don't think you understand just how relatively small the variation in human strength is, and just how much of a power boost multiplying it by seven would be. It doesn't matter how much more experience Mike Tyson has, the redditor's bones would be seven times denser. Mike Tyson can't outbox a steel wall.
>Suddenly rejoining makes bones steel
holy shit you are moronic.
You're a clueless highschool dropout with an IQ of 90 at best, completely out of league in this discussion.
The average human male bone density is that of like 1-1.25 g/cm3. Steel density is 7.85 g/cm3. If you were to multiply human bone density by seven, you would literally get steel density.
Who's more stronger, anon? A man who can bench 7 plate or a man who only bench 1 plate? Yeah it's the 7 obviously, so why does anyone fear the 1 plate? This is why rejoining = power level is stupid and should've never been addressed.
If you are talking about voidsent they arent just 1 plate. They had their aether corrupted and the only way to survive is to consume more aether and the more aether they consume the more powerful they get. Especially when they come to our world since just breathing allows them to absorb aether.
Did the Garlean bodynswao oart of the game teach you nothing anon?
esl kys.
>Goalpost moving
lol
>Go through 7 world ending calamities
>Still alive
Yes Eorzeans are powerful
Voidsent are literally creatures that eat and absorb each others power to get stronger, an average voidsent is nothing. The voidsent we fight are literally at the peak of thier power made up of countless voidsent.
Don't forget they are also super charged on the aether of one of the 7 major dragons.
Most voidsent that aren't shitty imps are like 7*1/14th because of all the aethergorging they do.
>the rejoining isn't some power booster.
It literally is though. The average ancient was indefinitely stronger at their base than the average person on the source
>Hey everyone I skipped the story!
here we fricking go again
Rejoinings do make you more powerful bro, why do you think they don't?
How do you remember to breathe
Literally what the frick is this moronation.
How is this getting so many fricking replies. Rejoinings WOULD be power boosters if Emet's explanation was correct, but we got a full fricking expansion with an entire zone talking about how there's a second equally as fricking powerful energy source that's comparable to Aether in function/potency that can more easily be accessed by less aetherically-dense beings.
DYNAMIS IS WRITTEN INTO THE FRICKING STORY AND EXPLAINED A BILLION TIMES TO COMPLETELY NEGATE THE WHOLE AETHER DENSITY POWER DISCREPANCY.
>ummm but the midichlorians
Don't care, didn't read. SHB and EW are pure fanfiction. Canonically, we invaded Garlemald in 5.0 and won. Ascians were all killed in the process and then we fought Zodiark as the big bad. Been big chilling since 6.0.
To be fair to that anon, dynamis was shit and somehow managed to make a foreshadowed element feel entirely like an ass-pull and THE ENDURING SPIRIT OF MAN as mundane as electricity. Dynamis should have been a property of aether and maintained mystique, rather than a hastily introduced anti-aether that is both entirely obscure but also somehow well-known to elephants living in the trade capital of the world. And a man with depression I guess.
>Dynamis should have been a property of aether and maintained mystique
Funny, I sit at the opposite angle in this, I kinda appreciate Dynamis for explaining all the N instances of "HOW CAN YOU BE THIS STRONG, ADVENTURER" through the story but also introducing randomness into the system. Aether was TOO well explained, TOO well understood,and ever since ARR it just felt stifling and without any real magic to it. I despise the concept of aetherochemistry as a science, and some of my favorite parts of the story have always been ones where something comes out of left field and nobody has any fricking idea what it could possibly be, such as Ultima not fitting the known cosmology of the world in any fricking way but being a fricking horrifying threat. I appreciate the consistency that a well-understood magic system brings but I still want allowances for crazy not-very-understood mystical things to pop up in the world that characters can be surprised by and not explain like scientists..
they sure did drop that cringe ADVENTURER name fast. i hope they give us a new title soon if theyre insisting on dropping the warrior of light title.
>Not liking Adventurer title
>Probably didn't even pick the choice that has Zenos call you adventurer
cringelord
kys troony.
I think you'd benefit from a more meta perspective. Aetherology serves the same purpose as star trekian technobabble. It's to look scientific but ultimately, if you want to find an excuse to deage the entire cast for an episode you just need to say 'tachyon' three times into a darkened bathroom mirror. And aether as science is beneficial exactly for the reasons you describe. However, having dynamis as an unknowable effect emotion has on aether (rather than a property of aether) gives further licence to make it surprising and adds the feeling of depth - like aetherology isn't a solved science. It's the important Magic that needs to be in your magical science.
Meanwhile I believe having dynamis as its own thing does exactly what you say it doesn't: both dynamis and aetherology are solved. We emit emotion particles now, rather than channel the spiritual energy of our HOPES AND DREAMS AND FRIENDSHIP. It mundanifies both elementals in my opinion.
I don't know if I'd say Dynamis is solved, we know it exists, we know it is normally nullified by charged aether unless it is present/accessed/stirred in dense enough quantities to the point where the interaction actually inverts and it dissipates aether, and we know that it is activated in that fashion via emotion. But we really don't know the extent of its properties and nobody has studied it extensively. We don't even know if Hermes knew much about it beyond "oh, it's present in vast amounts outside of this planet and I can fuel concepts with this".
If they start exploring the concept of it in more depth and trying to establish firm rules for it I'm going to be mad, though.
Another thing, though, is the potential of it opening up the way for there being OTHER kinds of mysterious energies and forces that we're not aware of and need never be brought up or understood but that can still add mystique to the world. Suddenly Nybeth's necromancy in the Palace of the Dead seems more mysterious and cool. Suddenly Edda's ghost showing up to haunt the quest giver after Hard Tam-Tara doesn't have to be just a leftover aethetic echo. Suddenly Susanoo doesn't have to be just a primal. Suddenly the scions briefly wondering in ARR what the FRICK King Moggle Mog was comes back to relevance a little even if the whole situation is a joke. Etc. etc.
>Suddenly the scions briefly wondering in ARR what the FRICK King Moggle Mog was comes back to relevance a little even if the whole situation is a joke
Wasn't this already revealed in the moogle part of HW?
>i sure would like to see more of alberic and maybe crazy ass heustine.
>AYMERIC AYMEMERIC AYMERIC
what a fricking homosexual forced on us . even artoriels fricking rolequest was all about aymeric. frick that homie for basic ass b***hes.
>Estinien and Graha could easily wipe the floor with WoL in a 1v1
LOL
I've had to beat up Estinien specifically twice. Once when he snorted dragon's eye, and another when they hastily soft-retconned that I had in order to reuse it as an expansion plot.
Yeah, with 7 other people. And Alphinaud and force ghosts of Haurchefant and Ysayle peeling those eyeballs out while Nidhogg was in a dormant state. WoL is not as strong as secondary speedreaders think.
Pretty sure you canonically fight Niddy 1v1 at the steps of faith. The party is there because it's a trial
wrong, you fight it buffed with the yellow eye
Doesn't Hrae say that WoL never tapped into the eye? I remember seeing something like that. Hell even then the fact that you beat Nid's ass while amped up with only one eye still shows that WoL is much stronger than Estinien.
They are more skilled in thier professions than the WoL is in theirs but the WoL can beat them 1v1
Lol frick no. Graha is weak as frick now that he is not melded with the tower. Estinien while probably the second strongest person behind you is still behind you. He filled in for you but he certainly isn't stronger than you. He is a better DRG though.
That's not what Shadowbringers was about and yes everything that has happened on the source has been controlled by the Ascians. Furthermore you're forgetting the WoL can now call the entire planet for help if anything serious arose, there is no way to walk that back now.
It's over for this setting, they wouldn't have rushed to tie up all their loose ends otherwise.
>If this goes on for 10 more years, none of it will even feel like XIV anymore.
It already doesn't. We're in a completely different world at this point. We began in a somewhat gritty fantasy setting with sparse technology outside Garlemald and a lot of serious problems that the average person had to deal with. Now we're dancing with rabbits in nightclubs and listening to radio self-help shows and there are no more problems anywhere so everything is happy.
Not in the friendly field of battle between adventurers!
A case can be made for going too far, but ARR didn't feel one bit like a Final Fantasy world. Only in Heavensward with the Sea of Clouds did the game start finding its footing and matching the older games in some aspects and it has become more so with time. It was TOO much grit and not enough color.
It's not like FF hasn't been gritty in the past. If pic related came out today morons would be claiming it copied game of thrones.
I doubt it will be anything on that scale.
You now remember the graphics update is happening in 7.0 as well. Whatever it may be it's pretty obviously not just a romp around Meracydia or the New World, it's bigger than filling in the map of the source. They didn't resolve all the worlds problems at record speed for nothing.
Save me from the future where the whole game is a Carmen Sandiago series of shallow toe-dips into geographic location A or B. Give me worldbuilding again. There are large swathes of Eorzea yet unexplored and the plot now needs to rebuild closer to home before it sends us away.
>There are large swathes of Eorzea yet unexplored
There is literally no interesting or intriguing reason for the story to go there, the setting has evolved to such a point where it's difficult to carve out a small scale story, impossible to carve out an isolated story like Heavensward, and it would be absolutely silly to try and push another world ending disaster back to back with EW. The reason why ShB worked so well is because it didn't have all this baggage attached to it, you could go into the story and not have to answer all these questions or come up for excuses for this or that.
The reason why Shb worked so well is because it engaged primarily with ARR/HW baggage and not SB baggage. ShB loved baggage, the frick are you talking about?
No anon, just no, I'm sorry but the next expansion isn't a casual jog around Meracydia.
>crystal tower
>ardbert and the WoDs
>ascian-wank
>direct references and nods to what adventuring was in ARR
>bridging diplomatic gaps between city-states and building bridges between previously antagonistic cultures
Oh yeah though, no baggage though because summoning doesn't happen.
matusno is washed up. tactics and 12 are shit. kys.
Give it a rest already you fricking sperg.
Tactics is not a mainline game, and it's REMARKABLY different from the general tone the franchise has, to the point that when Matsuno went and headed the development of a mainline game, it was itself panned exactly FOR not having anywhere near the tone and narrative that a typical FF game has. And now Yoshida is making his own version of a Matsuno game, apparently, but the point is, mainline FF always had fun and goofy things, which were all severely lacking in ARR, Good King Moggle Mog was there but that was too little and without a lot of reach. It was nice to get to the Sea of Clouds and see a colorful place with enemies like kittens with gliders attached to their paws and giant birds doing a cute dancer as their idle animation while they fought you. That kind of stuff is what reminded me "oh yeah, that's what these games used to be like once upon a time."
>Ultimately, they want to cater almost exclusively to hyper-casuals to the point where everything needs to be playable while watching 5 different netflix shows
I truly wonder what broke Yoshida to focus on this so hard. He markets XVI the exact same way with the easy mode accessories. At least those are optional, unlike XIV where everything has to be babby handhold difficulty except ultimates which are ballbusting hard for no reason other than a moronic arms race between devs and raiders trying to flex on each other.
>Ultimately, they want to cater almost exclusively to hyper-casuals to the point where everything needs to be playable while watching 5 different netflix shows.
I hate this so much. I've seen so many people say its good the relic is easy tome dump because they have so many games in their backlog that they can now play.
Fricking morons you could just drop xiv, play your shit games, then come back and do the relic grind (if it was an actual grind) it isnt going away.
>gays are seething stream nigges quit the game
Looks like peace will return to ffXIV
right?
>oh no, all the WoW tourists and their e-celebs are leaving the game!
...good? It'll return to the pre-Endwalker calm.
>pre-wow wave calm with post-wow wave mechanical direction
How fricking boring. Worst of both worlds.
>Its a 'scions bad' thread
Scions are the best FF party after IX and VI.
pretty much all of these things sound like good things to me
Golbez is secretly Golbez
>Golbez tears off his helmet
>He's wearing a smaller, smugger helmet underneath
>still have a short queue to log into my server
>People still doing stuff
>Cities are still active
I feel like the people who post on forums and those who don't have completely different experiences.
What's Krile watching tonight?
Hyur Male Lala Female porn.
So the videos of Tataru and Nanamo getting railed by WoL that keep turning up in her mailbox?
Also
>That club foot on the right.
Me and Y'shtola having handholding lovey-dovey sex.
The Fifth Element
I can see that
Here's your 7.0 bros.
The Lifestream is already fricked, we pumped something between a third and a half of a planet's worth of ancients into the fricking thing at once, that can't be healthy for the pipes.
The ancients are sundered and we lost a lot of souls in the end of days too. It evens out. There are maybe only two unsundered souls going through. Emet and maybe Lahabrea, don't know whay happens to a soul that gets eaten to make a primal and whatever weird shit he did with his soul in Panda might mean it was never fully whole.
There will be another timeskip and you'll have to use NG+ to access the 2.0-6.0 content.
>doing Sohr Khai for the first time after the rework
>3 sprouts who have completed the dungeon before
>tank is single pulling
>hrothgar samurai is single targetting aoe packs
>never uses dot on the boss
>notice he is just spamming random abilities now
>hraesvelgr boss fight is completely ruined now
>hroth dies during the fight and i don't rez him
i used to love this dungeon but i never want to play it again after this
yea that rework sucked the ascian prime rework in aetherochemical research facility is actually good though
>made ascian prime into a mini neo-exdeath
Neat
The dungeon has to be possible for bots and players that play like bots. Welcome to the future of dungeon design because telling people
>trying to play an MMO as a single player game is fricking moronic
Or
>you have to do the mechanics or die
is unconscionable. Doing anything interesting how has an AI scripting team cost.
At this point just let me do savage and ultimate with bots, give me full acceleration.
I like the new Hrae fight
I don't use the duty finder anymore after I maxed out my jobs
ZERO SEXO
I wonder if we will see the other living Ascians any time soon, Pashtarot, Emmerololth (death in eureka wasn't a permament one apparently), Halmarut, Deudalaphon and Altima are all unknown after appearing in the end of ARR cutscene.
Pashtarot is Zeromus
>Source?
FFXII
If we meet any of the remaining Convocation Ascians, they're most likely gonna be chilling on a tropical beach somewhere, and will tell us to go away. The rejoining can no longer occur.
>Deudalaphon, Altima
Given a fake death by Gaius so they are the most likely to pop up sometime soon. The others are probably on the shards
All the bad shit in this world can be pointed to
>Ascians
>Allagans
>Garleans
>Lalafell
How much Gil do you think she's spent on WoL merch? Does she get a 'special friend' discount?
https://arch.b4k.co/v/search/filename/Tataru%27s%20best%20customer.jpg/
Yes?
South Sea Islands will be the next expac location. Were going to Spira baby!
>FC submarines become mobile guild houses
>estinien: yea you threw my eyes over the bridge.
do we like this or is it just point and giggle and will never be brought up?
There is something I don't get, and I am serious.
How can the ff xiv threads on vg be so fast, while the WoW ones are much slower, and yet by every metric wow is more popular?
Where the frick are all the wow players, or at least all the people interested in the game? why are they not here.
Conversely, why is xiv so popular on vg but not on other sites?
I don't get it.
FF14 players are playing the game while alt tabbed, Wow players are watching other people playing the game while complaining about it on forums and discords
they're on reddit
This may shock you, but Ganker is not a balanced representation of everything else in the world.
The modern WoW player would avoid Ganker like the plague. 14 players dont have anywhere to talk about the game outside of discord
>Reddit, official forums
Nobody actually uses this for anything other than posting glams and shit
If you want an honest answer, it's because there isn't much to talk about when it comes to the game.
because wowbucks need to consume 24/7. there is always an alt to grind, transmog to farm, dungeons to run, etc.
xiv has a lot more downtime and everyone is complaining there is nothing to do
Say hello to your new story location for 7.0 and beyond. We're going home boys.
8th umbral calamity imminent. You will never return home
On one side a calamity/rejoining seems to be what they are hinting at, on the other side they are way too lazy or don't have the funds to actually pull off something like that again.
>funds
they didn't have funds for the first one, it was literally a gamble and they'd end up sinking the company if it didn't work out, they absolutely have money for another if they felt the need for it but why even bother when theres a frickload of morons eating up the slop that is endwalker "content" happily while sucking the boot of square
>call it the new world
>its old
ngl i don't really remember a lot of the details of the story from over the years
Nobody asked.
Yeah, it started going to shit with the Azem crap.
Most people don't, the problem is some of those people feel the need to post their takes on the story whih are very clearly not correct and argue endlessly to try and defend their headcanon. It's how we got the zodiark trance gang.
The zodiark trance gang is less annoying than the venat gang tbh, I hate what ew has done to these threads
>The zodiark trance gang is less annoying than the venat gang tbh
You mean the gays that constantly scream that Venat was evil are less annoying then the Light Mommy gays? You're joking right?
exploratory homosexuals are the worst and theyre just matsuno fanboy homosexuals.
weird homosexuals who rant on twitter are less annoying than weird homosexuals who spam screencaps of aforementioned group's tweets here
I wish they were only mommy gays, but all they do is shit up threads with their emet vs venat war nobody cares about
Waifugay autism is incredibly obnoxious.
>The zodiark trance gang is less annoying than the venat gang tbh
lol
lmao even
Yeah, exactly what I meant, I have probably seen this image over 20 times now in the past week
https://arch.b4k.co/v/search/filename/EgoCollectiveModbeast.png/
Hyda has saved and literally brought the Wol back to life (thanks rework) so liking her to some extent is kind of expected
Get back to me when Venat gays get outed for raiding various websites, anon
Literally Shazam trannie-cord all over again
I really don't care what they're doing on youtube, the venat simps here are just as bad as the lalafells, EW story was shit, stop talking about it already
>I really don't care what they're doing on youtube,
They raid everywhere, not just youtubem, go read this thread:
https://arch.b4k.co/vg/thread/418958841/#q418959041
Go back to /xivg/.
W-wowbucks, they said the troonygame didn't have a raiding scene... what's this?
same
I usually fall asleep playing at least twice per expansion msq and there is too much filler there that gets in the way of the important stuff
I don't know how to put it well, but my brain sees ARR and HW as "old" XIV and I remember jackshit about them, while SB onwards is "modern" xiv and I remember most of what happened.
Why aren't Alisaile and the rest of the Scions that got transported to the First literal demigods capable of soloing entire armies? After all, if Rejoinings are a power boost, they should be what, seven times stronger than the average Norvrandtian? Why didn't Thancred BTFO Ranjeet with a single autoattack?
alisaie is trash.
thancred moron aether homosexual dabbed on ardbert when he was on the source. ranjit was homosexualry padding so they could do the ryne,thancred, minfilia story line near the end no one cared about. you literally body ranjit because they wanted him as a boss too when its all resolved.
Ranjeet was downright poor writing.
You can tell the role quest stuff was going to be about the scions primarily because Ranjit fits in perfectly as somehow only Thancred and scions should fight, but then you don't have a catgirl in casual glam at the center of every cutscene so it was redone. Ranjit is a good character, but only in literally any game that isn't FFXIV.
It is possible that the role quests at first were intended to be about the scions. Thancred tank, Urianger healer, Y'shtola caster, and someone else (Lyna?) as dps.
It would make a lot more sense from a narrative sense over giving us 4 literally who hunters who were forgotten as soon as their quests were over.
At least the hunters ended up being cool dudes (except the cat).
cast is too bloated. two shotas, two midlanders, dwarf, homosexual cat. one of them is going to die for some characters arc.
>he thinks they'll ever be relevant again
Bro, their only purpose was to explore the void and we're alresdy doing that without them. It took Unukalhai 5 fricking years to move from Rising Stones to Norvrandt, they're not gonna do SHIT. Yoshida is a fat fricking Black person who casualizes this game tenfold every expansion yet can't even be arsed to at least make most content mandatory for better narrative weaving.
I agree, but narratively they were a non entity and the "final" quests with Cyella are incredibly pointless.
Enough whining, post cute Lalafells.
I knew this thread was going too well.
I've always got some cute Krile's up my sleeve, anon
This definitely happened when they got back to Kugane, followed by that image of her deep-throating him. Gotta pay WoL back somehow.
>solos WoL and Thancred multiple times
Nothing personnel, 7/14lets
*dies*
powerful indeed
Cut content. Eulmore was supposed to be a dungeon.
>Somehow dies to us in a solo fight after being literally invicinble for 80% of the expansion
How? Did he just forget to turn on his god-hacks for our fight?
All that Light Juice WoL absorbs I guess
I suppose Thancred fricked him up bad and WoL just delivered the killshot after he was already wounded?
He never kicked your ass in the first place. In Lakeland he just pulled out a stun attack you didn't expect and then Exarch teleported you away to escort Ryne. The same stun attack never works on you again and you don't fight him head on again until Eulmore.
Yeah he literally pocket sands you the first time and it doesn't work when you get your rematch
He's not dead. Don't you remember the throwaway line about his body disappearing?
>not dead
>never shows up again
>Norvrandt's only relevance since 5.3 has been crafting relics
The absolute state
Anyone have that pic of the virgin eorzean vs. the chad First denizens?
I always forget to save it
It's really hard to get excited about the game anymore. I may just let my sub lapse and lose my house
>Arguing which spammers are worse
Maybe the root issue is all spam is bad you triple morons
No anon. There must be sides, camps, and powerlevels. How else will I avoid talking about the game by talking about people talking about the game?
Which way WoL
I want to have intercourse with lalafellin women
I finish what Ilberd started
>being an illberd trancer
LMAO.
Sloppy bait
Jokes on you, that's just Kokoshu. There is now a squad of Immortal Flames soldiers sprinting to your location.
>Immortal Flames soldiers
Damn, better get that bribe ready
They ain't Brass Blades you little Mhigger moron. Prepare your ass for a beating
All Ul'dahns are same
Thread's reached 500. Post lewd Lalafells.
troony Trancers are so bad twitter made an entire blocklist just for them
Go back to /xivg/.
>Dickless Himbo
You'll see him and friends show up to entirely innocuous tweets about Venat. Pretty sure he and his troony buddies harassed a 15 year old for saying she loved Venat.
>Pretty sure he and his troony buddies harassed a 15 year old for saying she loved Venat.
That's not surprising since they're pedophiles. As are all trannies
https://arch.b4k.co/v/search/filename/30e8cd54-1ccf-43e7-a425-d3530ebf5bba.png/
https://arch.b4k.co/v/search/filename/shadowlesshimbo.png/
Stop replying to yourself.
>The trancers are here
>zodiark trancers so blown the frick out they keep changing the subject
>did you just say we are even more annoying than that other group of homosexuals because they spam their crap on twitter (aka not here) while we spam our crap on Ganker (aka here)? i cant believe you would do that, now let me show how annoying those homosexuals are by bumping my twitter screencap folder for the 50th time this week
i genuinely and unironically hope your gender affirmation surgery goes horribly wrong and you die on the butchers table, freak
Trancergays and Venatgays are both gay. Lalafell's are where it's at
This but femras
Lalafells or nothing
Then you get nothing!
I get Popoto. Can you say the same?
>Zodiark Trancers are harrassing minors to own the Venat stans
Can't wait till they end up on watchlists
>zodiark trancers starting shit again
troony frickers don't learn it seems.
Free login campaign brought all of them back (including Titanman) and they're all on the verge of mental breakdowns. Titanman because the Trancers are stealing his job. One of them is gonna post CP and get the site shut down at this rate (because the mods are all AWOL and will take forever to notice, happened with people posting porn before)
I don't really care about what happens on the OF.