FFXIV

I'm seriously asking. Why do you gays treat the """"gear treadmil"""" as a bad thing? Why do you associate playing more of the game = bad? It isn't what RPG players enjoy the most? playing to get more loot? Why is it now a bad thing and less content is a good thing now? I just don't get it.

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  1. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    When people are pointing out the "gear threadmill", they are actually pointing out how degenerated the classic goal of RPGs have become in online games. Sure, it is to "get stronger". However, it is hard to ignore how utterly soulless and devoid of meaning the whole process is, when it is this apparent, that the whole thing is just arbitrary numbers. That gear you are working for literal months will be given out like candy after a while, once they remove the arbitrary time gate. This is the point when many players put the very valid question to themselves: why am I even bothering putting all this effort into it, when it's all meaningless? They put in the next carrot on the stick, the current carrot will be given out for free to everybody.
    The only exception to this is Ultimates. But those are so impenetrable to casuals, that they hardly come up in this discussion.

    And if you don't see any problem with the "gear threadmill", meaning you are aware of how meaningless it is, but you enjoy it anyway, then by all means, good for you. But it isn't very hard to see why it's so off-putting to most people.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >The only exception to this is Ultimates. But those are so impenetrable to casuals, that they hardly come up in this discussion.
      Wrong. You and me can clear UWU and UCOB right now with next to no effort because of how ilvl sync works. It's super easy, so it just applies to the same logic you used at the beggining of your post. "Why even bother" if you can clear it easier next expansion.

      because its always the same shit every xpac every patch theres no variety
      you're doing the same thing that you were doing years ago in the same linear dungeon layout for 60 tomestones every day for weeks
      forever

      Then why it's so popular? It's because it's treated as a glorified RP game or just baby first mmo?

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Wrong. You and me can clear UWU and UCOB right now with next to no effort because of how ilvl sync works. It's super easy, so it just applies to the same logic you used at the beggining of your post. "Why even bother" if you can clear it easier next expansion.
        Really? I admit I haven't really been keeping up much with how Ultimates are, even though I'm still subbed to the game, I hardly ever play these days. I was under the impression that you still can't cheese even the older ultimates and they require proper progging. Maybe it's easier to hit max stats with gear without going out of your way to farm and meld the level appropriate gear, but I was under the impression that those don't give so much power up that it would trivialize the encounter. Maybe I was wrong, but certainly surprising to me.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          There's a lot of mechanics that can be skipped all together with this ilvl. Like you can skip divebombs on Nael right now. Ofc the "one hit KO" mechanics are still there but everything else is free game.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            While it's true the potency and ilvl creep has made a lot of mechanics easier if not outright skipable now. You are still not going to take a casual fresh party of 8 through the fight in a fast manner even if they study all the mechanics before hand.

            Also some people just really suck at the game and usually there is no helping them for various reasons.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          It's much easier than in StB but still takes a decent amount of time and effort. The big mechanics are just as hard as they used to be

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        bro you take 8 people who never did ucob with current potencies nd ilvl and they will die to twisters over and over
        what you mean is getting carried by people who already cleared the fight

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        you cannot clear ucob or uwu with 2 useless players.
        You need at least 7 competent highly skilled players to corpse-drag the 8th through, and even then you'll still have to learn to do thermal low bait, suppression, and primal roulette so you can contribute some damage.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >threadmill
      kys

  2. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    because its always the same shit every xpac every patch theres no variety
    you're doing the same thing that you were doing years ago in the same linear dungeon layout for 60 tomestones every day for weeks
    forever

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      i prefer ffxiv's deterministic system over wow's random ass system where a ring makes up 10% of your dps until they nerf it and then your class is unplayable bad so you have to go level up another class and do the whole random ass gearing system with them again so that you can continue to do current content.

  3. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    They're experimenting with bonuses on gear with the crafting relics this expansion, maybe they'll roll the dice and put that kind o stuff on the actual relics next time around.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      I just wish we got rid of this loop rotation we have so we can get fun stuff in like haste or even quick. There will be so much ground to experiment. Maybe use the autocombo from PvP. That way jobs can give more diverse buffs to everyone without thinking "this will frick the rotation of my dps". They can keep the 2min shit if they want since i guess it's what works rn (?)

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Sincerely doubt it'll ever go on PvE gear; I imagine FFXIV will go towards "mastery levels" after hitting lv. 99 or lv. 100 like FFXI did to keep the level up progression going without actually raising the normal level cap.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        not a xi player here
        can you explain it for me?

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          FFXI have like two progression systems after you hit lvl cap. One that levels you stats and other one that let you enhance your abilities to do more damage (or have other properties(?) i don't remember that one too well)
          But i doubt ffxiv goes that way. Yoshi is too afraid to make any fun option that angries the raid community or makes the casuals play the game more.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            FFXI hit level 99 as their level cap and immediately introduced Master Levels and "Exemplar Points" (EXP hurr hurr hurr) as a replacement level-up system. Master levels are functionally identical to level-ups, cap out at 50 master levels per-job, increase HP/MP/stats and your skill cap for that job, and increase your subjob's level cap by 1 per five master levels.

            Essentially I expect them to introduce an alternate level-up system to replace the usual one after we hit the traditional RPG level cap. What that will actually entail as far as job progression, I have no idea.

            Does it give you something like talents, then?

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              Something like that because you gotta choose what abilities to enhance. Also you have more options for your subjob (never ever on ffxiv) since you have one more ability from them now.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                I wonder if they could do something similar then.
                Enhance existing abilities, add some new ones, have an option to bring back some old removed ones. You know.

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              Kinda. It raises the cap of your job's combat/magic skills per level and the subjob ceiling raise with every five levels also gives you more options than you would otherwise. Obviously XIV doesn't have a subjob system and this would basically translate to continuing the stats increase on gear with every level.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          FFXI hit level 99 as their level cap and immediately introduced Master Levels and "Exemplar Points" (EXP hurr hurr hurr) as a replacement level-up system. Master levels are functionally identical to level-ups, cap out at 50 master levels per-job, increase HP/MP/stats and your skill cap for that job, and increase your subjob's level cap by 1 per five master levels.

          Essentially I expect them to introduce an alternate level-up system to replace the usual one after we hit the traditional RPG level cap. What that will actually entail as far as job progression, I have no idea.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        FFXI have like two progression systems after you hit lvl cap. One that levels you stats and other one that let you enhance your abilities to do more damage (or have other properties(?) i don't remember that one too well)
        But i doubt ffxiv goes that way. Yoshi is too afraid to make any fun option that angries the raid community or makes the casuals play the game more.

        FFXI hit level 99 as their level cap and immediately introduced Master Levels and "Exemplar Points" (EXP hurr hurr hurr) as a replacement level-up system. Master levels are functionally identical to level-ups, cap out at 50 master levels per-job, increase HP/MP/stats and your skill cap for that job, and increase your subjob's level cap by 1 per five master levels.

        Essentially I expect them to introduce an alternate level-up system to replace the usual one after we hit the traditional RPG level cap. What that will actually entail as far as job progression, I have no idea.

        I really want the cap to stay at 100. Prestige points that let you equip certain glamors once you've leveled to 100 a certain number of times is acceptable, or like Bozja where you can add small increments to your stats (or maybe let us power up abilities with Skill Points or something) would be decent as well. I don't want to do 110, 120, 130 etc forever that's fricking whack

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          yeah, I hope the regular level cap is at 99 or 100 as well
          maybe then they can stop pruning old abilities to add new ones and just hammer out their more or less definitive design without having to account for "MUH 10 MORE LEVELS" every expansion

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          yeah, I hope the regular level cap is at 99 or 100 as well
          maybe then they can stop pruning old abilities to add new ones and just hammer out their more or less definitive design without having to account for "MUH 10 MORE LEVELS" every expansion

          >100
          i would murder you gays for ever suggest that.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            FFVIII combo broke the series sorry

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            gomen na sorry, 99 would murderfrick my autism

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              get used to it buddy boy
              we got artifact armor at level 89 this expansion
              it's comin

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

  4. 11 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      when are you gonna commission tresh3D for an animation of your lalafell getting pussy-pounded by a hyur and we can end this farce once and for all

  5. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    because gear treadmill is cancer meant to artificially prolong an unfun journey
    let people get things at a consistent and reliable rate instead of rng-fricking them like you're a pozzed western developer

  6. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Remember this?

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      pre-Endwalker theories were a sight to behold

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Remember this?

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        >everyone that insisted Lavos from Chrono Trigger was gonna poke his head out of the ground and be behind the apocalypse

  7. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    nyahahaha

  8. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Why do you gays treat the """"gear treadmil"""" as a bad thing?
    XIV has worst gear treadmil in entire history of MMO. ONE GEAR. SAME FORMULA FOR FRICKING DECADE. Literally NOTHING can exist outside of this formula. You can't have any new gear. It's always the same. Always. The same one set.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >XIV has worst gear treadmil in entire history of MMO. ONE GEAR. SAME FORMULA FOR FRICKING DECADE. Literally NOTHING can exist outside of this formula. You can't have any new gear. It's always the same. Always. The same one set.
      Sounds good.

  9. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    It’s not fun.
    I’m a new player and spent a long time doing MSQ and catching up just to have every bit of gear I’ve earned become useless trash.
    It just makes me wonder what’s the point of doing anything? Old content is easy, current content is inaccessible unless you put 30 hours into hoping you win rolls for gear.

    It’s pointless.

  10. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Speaking about XI
    >even after new lvl caps it still has prper RPG gear system
    >even in 2023
    Just look at this. Google some class guides. Max levl character has different gear for different purposes. Different weapons.
    I think the only other MMO with similar system is fricking ESO now

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      It also has an extremely small playerbase comprised of people that have already been playing it for 10+ years and as a result the game is unfriendly to any new blood. Go play Diablo if you want to tinker around with gear for hours. Or, hell, just sub to and play XI.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Personally I really wouldn't want XIV to become as finicky as that.
        But a little more customization would be nice.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        >years and as a result the game is unfriendly to any new blood
        This isn't result of people playing games for 10+ years because it's not PVP game

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          You have a moronic amount of catch-up to do if you start playing and even once you get there people will prefer the oldheads. It's not friendly to new players.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            >You have a moronic amount of catch-up
            You don't. Stop anon. This is not how it works. The game is just old.

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              We're talking about if you start playing the game right now, dummy. Yes you have an extreme amount of catching up to do before you can even start to hang with the older players.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >We're talking about if you start playing the game right now, dummy.
                No.
                >It also has an extremely small playerbase comprised of people that have already been playing it for 10+ years and as a result the game is unfriendly to any new blood
                And it's not true. The game is just old. And designs are old. Let it go.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Who the frick flatly says "no" to the entire premise of the conversation he's having so he can rant about something else? Should've been a 75th trimester abortion.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Adding to this, the catchup is mostly following the main story quests. Everything's gated behind it. You don't need to worry about being behind in gear or a similar treadmill.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >You don't need to worry about being behind in gear or a similar treadmill.
                you will when you're starting to tango with people that have heishi shorinken or fudo masamune ground out

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Just make the fights easier so that way the upgrades are just fancy shit that you don't actually need (just like how relics are now on ffxiv)

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                durrrrr

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Okay yeah if you're competing in parses then you do need the top gear. But that's about it, you can do pretty much all content with market board gear.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                WE'RE TALKING ABOUT XI!!!! WE'RE TALKING ABOUT XIIIIIIIIIIII

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Whoops. My bad. In my defense, I did google the heishi shorinken and the first result was a 14 weapon with materia slots, so my brain went on autopilot there

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah it pops up as an artifact-armor weapon for NIN in XIV, Shadowbringers. The amount of shit XIV cribs from XI without being 100% derivative of it is pretty nuts actually, even the AF armors specifically referencing XI's like Paladin aren't 100% the same.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                I think XIV does a good job of referencing previous games without necessarily copying them wholesale.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                FF3 is surprisingly faithfully condensed into the Crystal Tower raid without ever once actually being a beat-for-beat story recreation

  11. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    The question is why try to hamfist a stupid-ass treadmill in XIV when every other MMO already has one.
    Just go play those MMOs. Leave XIV to the people who don't want to be dealing with RNG for months on end to get the specially upgraded level 5 version of a ring with an extra procced stat and an additional materia slot.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >who don't want to be dealing with RNG for months on end to get the specially upgraded level 5 version of a ring with an extra procced stat and an additional materia slot.
      WoW really broken a lot of people that think ultra RNG on titanforge is the only way to handle gear.

  12. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >add talents via master levels
    >allow gays to bring back kaiten and dark arts via spending master level points or what have you
    >gays happy

  13. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    because I want to play other games as well

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Then play other games, moron. It's a way to extend play time for this game. No one is forcing you to stop playing other games.
      It's like you're so addicted to virtual rewards that you feel an obligation to continue playing a single video game.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        OP wants to make it so there's a gear treadmill that I have to follow in order to do the content I used to do. So I won't have time to play other games.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          >So I won't have time to play other games.
          You mean gacha games?

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            Any games

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              10 hours long movies?

  14. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why do people always want to enforce their way of playing other MMOs on XIV? Can't XIV just have its own thing going on that if you don't like it, you don't play it?
    Not every MMO needs to be WoW, or ESO, or GW2, or FFXIV.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      "Hmmm this should be like OTHER GAME" is usually a pretty big flapping red flag for a migrant.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        I've never played wow and xiv should have their glamour dresser system 🙂

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          🙂

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          true but that's just an objective upgrade, not changing the fundamental way the game works for the sake of a subjective improvement that might alienate the existing audience to court an audience that might still not care to play it and that has every other MMO to give them that type of gameplay

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      "Hmmm this should be like OTHER GAME" is usually a pretty big flapping red flag for a migrant.

      >OP or (You) made thread about gear progression
      >WTF?

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        No, Anon, that's not what my post says.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        the reason xiv has stuck with the same gear treadmill since heavensward (where they tried goofy shit with the diadem and it backfired tremendously) is because it works. thats the answer to the question "why do they do it like this?", it's what their main demographic wants

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          This is indeed "no fun alloweed" the game.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            Fun- for you.
            Other people prefer determinative and and reliable gearing paths.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          >it's what their main demographic wants
          No shit. We even have easy mode for MSQ now because "some creatures" from main demographic were not able to beat MSQ duties. Not even talking about the state of official English XIV forum. The anon above mentioned Diablo loot. Diablo is giga normalag dudebro game and XIV main demographic is below this audience. The lowest of low among entire MMO genre. Can't believe long time ago Ragnarok Online was ERP anime game. It's complex combat simulator compared to XIV.

  15. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    One, I don't want to treat a game as a job. Two, how the frick would you implement an engaging gear treadmill in 14 without having to redesign the entire combat system?

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Two, how the frick would you implement an engaging gear treadmill in 14 without having to redesign the entire combat system?
      By ending at 7.55 and making a new MMO

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        >making a new MMO
        It will be gacha. Read Yoshi's interview from 2019-2021 (I think) about MMOs generations.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          Yoshida's argument was that he doesn't know what form the next MMO will actually take since he (correctly) views MMO "waves" as being Everquest, WoW, and Some New Third Thing. Quite probably the next MMO from Squeenix will be a multiplayer ARPG in the vein of Dragon's Dogma Online or dumb shit like New World since people keep trying to put out games like that.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Quite probably the next MMO from Squeenix will be a multiplayer ARPG in the vein of Dragon's Dogma Online
            They call those type of games MO as I remember.

  16. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    You have created a thread that will soon build into a splitting image of this salt cave
    Congratulations Anon

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      I can imagine you giggling to yourself like a moron when you took this picture
      >I'm totally gonna post this on Ganker next time I see an FFXIV argument nyehehehe

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Oh my, it seems a giant salt crystal has already formed!

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          >nyehehehe this is gonna get me so many (You)s

  17. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    What are some other abandoned plot points?

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      underneath the stage in Zodiark's fight

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      cid's goggles

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous
      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        remember Zenos is Emet's great-grandson, so... thats why

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Emet's sons didn't dream of Amaurot
          >Emet's grandson didn't dream of Amaurot
          >but Emet's great grandson dreamt of Amaurot
          Makes sense

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            How do you know they didn't?

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            isn't emets grandson zenos

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              No.

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              Varis is his grandson, Zenos is his great grandson. Both of Emet's sons died before the game takes place.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      cid's goggles

      They remembered Heart of Sabik, they're not going to forget anything else

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        ofc the Black folk remembered because everyone was asking about it. Then they just went "yeaaah it was actualy ayyylmaos"
        In the other hand i'm still waiting for my new gold saucer game. The chinks thought i forgot about it. Where the frick is it.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          >hubba whaa?????? the auracite was... auracite???? made by the thing we saw make auracite in the ivalice raid???

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          Heart of Sabik was always Black Auracite in the JP dub afaik.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            I love how Pandaemonium created more questions about the Heart of Sabik than it actually answered. Guess we have to wait for the Fanfest Q&A sessions for things to be cleared up.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          I'm surprised they didn't retcon the auracite into being crystallized dynamis.
          >magic alternate dimensional stones that manifest the emotions and desires of its weilders

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            Sometimes the multidimensional stone is just a multidimensional stone and not fantasy dark-matter.

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              I mean they are already retconing Ultima's existence so why not go all out? Not like it would effect the Ivalice raid, and even if it did who would care?

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >retconing Ultima's existence
                what?

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                he's using words he doesn't understand

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                She was summoned into our world in Ivalice by one of the Zodiac Braves, yet somehow thousands of years before that appeared in the unsundered world for no apparent reason.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                She was already around for quite some time per the lorebook, as a mindless destructive entity before getting consciousness through fear-worship.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >what actually happened:
                a piece of auracite was discovered by the ancients
                >what anon is implying
                ultima the high seraph, in her post-eikonized form, appeared before athena and gave her the heart of sabik

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Auracite comes from Ultima. For it to appear in the unsundered world means she herself had been there. Did you not talk to Claudien after finishing the raid and watch the cutscene with them talking about Ultima?

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                your statement relies upon one thing that is really, REALLY unlikely.

                >There is only 1(one) being in the universe like Ultima the High Seraph

                I don't have the requisite proof, but i'm hypothesizing that auracite, the relationship between dynamis and aether, Ultima and the Meteia are all connected

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Ultima wasn't from our universe though. She was from another dimension and until Pandaemonium was purposely summoned into our world.
                So for them to just have her, or a being of her kind, show up in the unsundered world to shit out the Heart of Sabik and then leave is incredibly lazy writing.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Anything is possible with time travel

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                who purposefully summoned Utlima so that athena could get the heart of sabik pre sundering?

                because it says in game that Athena found the auracite and eventually made the heart of sabik HERSELF. nothing of where the original piece came from. there are a myriad of explanations that make more sense than 'interdimensional being personally gives monkey's paw crystal to crazy woman'

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                as per fft and 12's lore, the Auracite always find their way into the hand of people with desires.
                Athena desire for goodhood was likely what summoned it.
                althou we can go with two methods for this, the first being that auracite is drawn by desire, or that they use a facilitator(think lemarchand's box, horny frickers and the hobo peddler)

                if they go with the middle man approach, I think this would be wonderful for future story telling possibilities.
                but they will likely just explain it as being drawn by emotions because Dynamis.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Athena is purposefully lying or very vague when she talks about the Heart of Sabik and where she got it, Lahabrea notes that she never actually clearly told him where she got it. I personally think that her own megalomaniacal personality is what "informed" the personality of the primal that became Ultima the High Seraph, especially since both Athena's Savage form and Ultima herself have visible features from Hydaelyn and Zodiark, with both monstrous and flowing white aspects. It's much clearer with Athena's Savage form since that outright uses thorns and tentacles from Zodiark and the flowing white Amano-ish design of Hydaelyn for her main body.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >she's lying

                well we can throw out pretty much anything from the game then if we're going to just call any statement in the game a lie

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Lahabrea outright tells you she's never been truthful about where she got the Heart of Sabik anon it's not some purposefully vague thing on that post's part

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                i'm in the inn. give me a quest name and cutscene number

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >he didn't talk to npcs between quests and cutscenes
                NGMI

  18. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Heavensward has the best zone design
    >Huge maps
    >Amazing vistas
    >Great verticality
    >Actually dangerous enemy strongholds
    >Flying as the final reward for explaration and map mastery

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      The only good HW zone is Coerthas Western Highlands

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Heavensward has the best zone design
      It was beginning of decline. Just compare all those zones to Twelveswood. It was small but SOULFUL

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Dravanian Forelands is my favorite area in the game. The first time during HW that I finally moved through the area transition from the frozen wasteland that is western Coerthas and suddenly found myself in that forest with Ysayle guiding us I was blown away. And the chocobo forest and Tailfeather are comfy beyond belief.

      Though I still do think HW areas need a texture update the most out of any expansion. Way too much of that endless grey stone shit.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        >that pic
        Bros, I thought Y'shtola was a cat, not a slampig

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          She's a witch, she can be whatever the frick she wants.
          YOU can also be whatever the frick she wants, my little toad.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            Sounding very Master Matoya right about now.

  19. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >itt current ffxiv demographic is homies that don't like to loot in a RPG
    Times really have changed....

  20. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Anyone have a mod for third eye SAM ability. So when i parry with it has like a sound effect?

  21. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Because it turns all of your accomplishments into trash that is just meant to be discarded whenever the next iterative content that is the same shit comes out in a few months
    In old MMOs shit would be used for years if it was from a good enough encounter, and there would be even harder shit you might not have access to so being able to have anything was an accomplishment
    in XIV it's all just samey garbage that you toss out every update, no accomplishment at all
    Even shit like savage only equipment is worthless as a trophy because level sync gives you the same rewards as people who cleared it day 1

  22. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Sex with Ryne witout protection

  23. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    cute couple

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      can always tell who to avoid by their interpretation of ryne and gaia's relationship

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      cute non-canon couple!

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yes they're very cute sister-wives to the WoL, and will be cuter when their bellies start growing out togeher.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Isn't Gaia more like a conquest? Oracle of Darkness, and all.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          No because te WoL is also the Warrior of Darkness

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            Okay, but that was a LARP, you know.
            Gaia actually has darkness abilities and is the reincarnation of an Ascian who died doing Ascian things.

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              >Okay, but that was a LARP
              So is the whole Warrior of Light thing

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Nuh-uh! You're Venat's champion.
                And you conquered Gaia's cradle of darkness (womb)

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              >Okay, but that was a LARP, you know.
              The Warrior of Light is too. They're just manmade titles that get applied to [Main character].

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      eden was probably the lamest non-job storyline in the game and its still incredible to me how a large portion of the playerbase lapped it up because it happened to have the barest hint of lesbian minors

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >"Is that two female friends?"
      >"OH MY SCIENCE THEY'RE OBVIOUSLY LESBIANS!!"

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        OH MAHR GLOB! THEY STOOD IN THE SAME ROOM TOGETHER

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        They're obviusly bisexuals in a 3 way relationship with the WoL

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Cute!

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Weak to hypnosis!

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        cant find the og artist with reverse image search, anyone know him

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous
      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Lala cultists are like furries, they must CORRUPT

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          whats wrong anon? don't wanna date a lala? afraid you may like it?

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          We can also destroy

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >those fingers

  24. 11 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      where is jessica

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous
      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous
    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >he mods his game
      sad tbh

      You know you can just play on non-US servers, right?

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        >replying to the bait bot
        aren't you a moronic eh?

  25. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    JUG tank for 7.0

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      ShB added tank, EW added healer, 7.0 will add two DPS

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      If it's not JDG i will kill Yoshi, also i would prefer them as a heavy armor dps. I would even main them for those cool glams.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        >heavy armor dps
        maiming is full

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          full of shit. Make SAM a maiming job. Fricking Yoshi making all that shitty MNK gear that SAM has to use. Who the frick thought that was a good idea AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

  26. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    There is no gear treadmill in FFXIV or if there is it's vastly superior to WoW's. You can get geared to do all normal content via the MSQ or normal mode side content with minimal effort. There are sets obtainable from:
    MSQ
    Raids
    Alliance Raids
    Crafting
    Tomestone trade in
    Marketboard purchasing

    Getting geared isn't an issue it's just morons that log in to AFK in limsa that complain.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Which is why op is complaining that its too easy. Did you even read what you're replying to moron? He wants to spend 100s of hours grinding.

  27. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >every MSQ character I am into is in a relationship with me

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yes.

  28. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Is Ultima truly gone when auracites can still create Espers despite her "death"

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      No one's ever really gone.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      She was from another dimension, our rules don't apply to her.

  29. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    This game could do with more slice of life themed plot questing.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Its already headed that way

  30. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    You just know Emet and Hythlodaeus will be back to help WoL defeat Hydaelyn created by The Watcher who absorbed Zeromus

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Hydaelyn was a primal, so can't we just summon her with enough hope and aether?

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yes, but the Watcher will be the one to create Primal Hydaelyn

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        She'd just be a simulacrum

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          Would she be a clone or a perfect copy?

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            Just a physical approximation driven by the desires of the person who created her.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Would be the same deal as with the Eden versions of ARR primals. Similar, but not the same.

  31. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Ultima was probably sealed by Azem in a pocket dimension

  32. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    what do we do now for a year sisters
    is it over?

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >one month of wild 7.0 title predictions
      >July is both 6.45 + expansion reveal
      >theories about expansion
      >September is 6.5 Part 1
      >maybe November Part 2?
      >couple months of theorizing and plapping
      >April should be 7.0

  33. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    sex with ryne and gaia every night

  34. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Been playing with the same group of friends since the ARR early access
    >Lost interest after 6.0
    >All my friends also stopped playing
    >Keeping you subbed by holding housing hostage
    >Lost my personal house because I didn't login one day too many
    >FC also lost its housing because none of us were playing for a while
    >FC leadership was transfered to some literally who that hasn't logged in for like 4-5 years, because once again, no one was playing
    >Login one day to witness the fact that all we build as a community was destroyed because we didn't play for a fee months.
    >Finally unsubbed, last one of my friends to do so

    Had fun for a few years with my bros I guess.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      same. it's really hard to be subbed and play xiv when there are so many other better games out

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >don't play game
      >lose ownership limited quantity feature
      Shock and awe.

  35. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why doesn't Golbez just ask us to open up a voidgate with an execution squad waiting on the other side and let voidsent through who want to die one at a time?

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Because Voidsent bad. Also that would throw off the balance of our world with all the darkness aspected souls flooding into the lifestream.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Why don't we tell him about the First and ask him to help us find a way to send the voidsent there to die?

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          Because the first is the furthest from the 13, it's harder for the 1st and the 13th to connect than it is for it and the source, furthermore, the source of the lifestream is the... well, the source, it's like trying to reason with a sea fish to go into another aquarium that resembles the sea, when he have already seem to the sea.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            lol no. The First and the 13th are both adjacent to the Source, which is why they are the easiest to get to

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              >he never did role quests
              >he doesn't even have all jobs to 80
              ngmi

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Think of the reflections as a circle. Starts with the Source, then the First etc until finally the 13th. Source and 13th are both adjacent to the Source. The distance between the 13th and the 1st is the same as the distance between the 13th and the 11th. So to say it is the furthest away from the First.. is wrong

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                This was confirmed numerous times in the game, amazing how you have to explain it to people.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >skips role quests
                >can't understand metaphors
                >thinks he is smart
                NGMI

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Why don't you just say what you're gonna say instead of making vague implications?

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >only the 4th, 8th, 9th and 11th still exist (other than Norvrandt on the 1st)
                I really hope they don't relegate each shard to a single zone and instead make each reflection its own expansion

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >inb4 the 8th or something is just literally irl >because of how far it is from the source, it lacks as much magic
                >a few zones, probably shibuya or some shit

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Makes me wonder what elements those shards were going to be for their rejoinings. Seemes like there's more shards than there are elements.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                One shard per aspect per element

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                That wouldn't be possible unless the Ascians figured out a way to get do overs on the 13th and 1st though.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Probably flip between light and dark forever, once they have 8 or 9 calamities total Zodiark is powerful enough to break out and just wrench the other reflections back though.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Shouldn't Zodiark already be 8/14 in the other timeline?

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Theoretically yes but there's some kind of complications going on there, most likely the near-dead surface. They do still need souls/aether even after full rejoining since they want to restore all Ancients by cycling their souls out of Zodiark.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                6 elements, each can have an astral or umbral charge, on top of light and dark.
                But I think some old lore ARR stated that they only really need an 8th calamity aspected to light to finally break Zodiark seals. as the 7th was dark aspected

                i think they ditched this at late HW because I've never heard of this implication again, and the future timeline having an 8th probably kills this theory

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                That's probably going to be the case since WoL will have to collect Azem's soul in each shard

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                why the hell would he do that

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                To be the very best; the best there ever was.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                she*

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                When WoL will eventually absorb real Golbez soul he'll unlock Azems future sight ability where he see vision of a greater threat than Endsinger. Using the Source's moon he travel to other shards where Azem souls is conveniently sealed or is the antagonist of that shard.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                die

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                azem is invariably a hero across each shard so far

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                In 6.5 we'll get OG Golbez's soul from Zeromus. Remember Durante-Golbez threw it in the pit.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                why you trancers are so obsessed with this bullshit of getting soul shards?
                not only this will never happen, but this is counter productive to the story, it's moronic
                what sort of narrative benefit would getting all shards bring outside making the WoL an even more stupid plot armor killing machine?

                If anything I hope the writers ditch and murder this soul shard pseudo theory and bury it because it's some of the most cringe predictions in this whole game.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >travel to the 8th
                >it's full of witches and flying military schools

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Think of the reflections as a circle.

                That cutscene in the CT is an aesthetic representation
                it doesn't mean the shards are floating in the rift in a circle you absolute cromossome hoarder.

                can't your peanut brain understand analogies or metaphors?

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                It's established over and over again that the First and Thirteenth are the closest to the Source. As recent as the most recent MSQ update even. The one where we traveled to the Thirteenth's moon.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >headcanon

                [...]
                >I'll ignore literal lines of dialog from MSQ stating that travel to the 13th and 1st are so possible because they are adjacent to the Source for my theoretical headcanon
                moron.

                >ignores the dialogue that states that the 1st and the 13th are the furthest apart because his monkey brain thinks an aesthetic diagram is a factual representation of shards.
                dumb burger

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >skips role quests
                >can't understand metaphors
                >thinks he is smart
                NGMI

                >I'll ignore literal lines of dialog from MSQ stating that travel to the 13th and 1st are so possible because they are adjacent to the Source for my theoretical headcanon
                moron.

  36. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    What is Cloud of Darkness doing?

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      giving head

  37. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Gear treadmill is annoying if you want to play as multiple classes because the way things are timelocked, it takes multiple months to get one class maxed.

    I like playing every role except phys range, and like multiple in the same role too. That's a lot to juggle and a lot to leave on the table for months.

  38. 11 months ago
    Anonymous
  39. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Time Mage when?

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      With the state of the game rn he cannot give us neither haste or quick. So why the frick bother to frick another emblematic job in this shitty game.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        give me back HW AST Yoshi pls...
        it's not my fault the MNK couldn't handle the 1.5 GCDS

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          MNK was the onky job other than BLM that liked arrows though

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            and reddit and the forums were infested with scrub MNK crying how ASTs in their party ruined their TP because of it.
            it was this and raid morons crying about balance dps boost that made the devs ditch the cool cards system.

            I just want my 2 min cards and stun extentions again Yoshi... I will personally massage your wiener if you bring it back.

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              Sure bub, I believe you

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        >haste just works like the arrow did
        >Quick is a personal CD that shortens recast time to 1.5s

  40. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >elden ring is one of the most successful games of the past years
    >it builds up on the estabilished dark souls systems and methods

    >diablo 4 tries to reinvent the wheel despite being in a genre with a very specific and hardcore meta taste
    >gets lambasted as barebones and jocklingly called diablo 3.5

    GEEZ OP, I WONDER WHY TRUE AND TRIED METHODS WORK BETTER THAN TRYING TO REDO SOMETHING THAT ISN'T BROKEN

    but i wouldn't expect someone on HRT to understand

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >diablo 4
      At least pick a game that's sold complete

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        thats a hard thing to ask anon, considering most west stuff is either half baked or baked by half

  41. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Ultima being around presundering at least explains why the Espers sigils are the same as Convocation 13

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      you want a real eye opener? there's a sigil on the walls of the convocation chamber of P11. match it up

  42. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    only vanilla wow and tbc (before zul aman and casual patches) did MMO gear progression correctly. XIV trying to ape the cancerous part of wow such as wotlk onwards is just laughable

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Why do WoWaddicts think their video game opinions are ever relevant lol

  43. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    wow already fixed rng gearing this patch, you could get practical bis on literally the second week of the patch with only extremely minor upgrades to grind out from there if you’re extremely dedicated
    and they didnt have to sacrifice interesting loot or the satisfaction of progressing your character like xiv

  44. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >7.0 will be FFXIII themed
    >Caius Ballad shows up
    How does your dick react?

  45. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Lahabrea created Pandaemonium not to lock up the creatures but Athena herself
    Savage

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >the plausible deniability of housing strange and powerful concepts like vampires
      >both themis and lahabread agree the whole facility should be fricking nuked, but (You) pull up and they both think it'll be worth a laugh to let you fight stuff in it
      and then you win the absolute madzem

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Can't blame him.

  46. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    zepla betrayed us she is playing diablo

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Streamers will always play new releases, it's how they try to keep themselves relevant.
      now show her leaked nudes

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >casual streamer is playing another games because there is nothing to do in xiv beside raiding

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        how long until actual content comes out anyway
        i want to blu meme for a while

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          6.45 in a month+.

  47. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    I am going to marry Krile.

  48. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Asphodelos got a new song
    >Abyssos got a new song
    >Anabaseios got remixes
    What happened? XVI crunch kick in?

  49. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    WEBS

    LIKE UNTO CHAINS

  50. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >he doesn't have at least one of each role leveled

  51. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    its actually sad how bland and uninspired the jobs are in ffxiv, probably the worst job/class design in any video game I’ve ever played

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      I'm sorry to hear that.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        what is there to look forward to in a new expansion? all your job is going to get is a new 60/90/120 second cd ogcd 800 potency with aoe falloff
        the jobs are too rigid to actually add anything of actual importance

  52. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    How was the First the 8th Umbral Calamity when we averted it?

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      It wasn't averted in the bad timeline

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        which we prevented?! so how was it rejoined?

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >le cutscene skipper

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