Her role in EW just felt so contrived and neither the player nor the other characters were ever really allowed by the author to meaningfully challenge it.
because venat is basically the only morally grey character in the story
even emet's moral greyness is just >yeah he has some valid points and you might even do the same thing if you were in his shoes but he's still bad and has to die
people like to argue and the sundering is the only thing in xiv that can actually be argued about
>I bet you would do it without hesitation
I would do it if that meant creating a world with catgirls and thighlanders in it and then being reborn as one
unfortunately no
the same people who praise venat would not hesitate to extinguish all of humanity for the sake of saving the planet and the enviroment
irl
Not without hesitation, no. However I can say that it would be the right action to take.
Would you end the entire universe if humans could not survive in it?
>imagine if to save the entire universe we just had to sacrifice all humans in it >I bet you would do it without hesitation
My dude humans still exist after the sundering. Go look around ingame and see people are thriving. Her actions ensured the peopleof the future would even exist, along with the rest of the universe.
Your argument is basically "muh race (ancients in this case) is superior to everyone else, Venat bad because she betrayed muh master race to do the objectively right thing"
Yes he does and the Scions know about it too. And it still wouldn't matter if anyone knew or not. Venat's plan was a total disaster until catboy salvaged it.
10 months ago
Anonymous
>Yes he does and the Scions know about it too.
What? No. Nobody fricking knows, when G'raha left his timeline the people left behind were wondering if they'd disappear. G'raha has literally zero reason to know that they're still there, much less the other Scions. Where the frick have you read any of them talking about his timeline still existing?
10 months ago
Anonymous
I am not gonna rewatch hours of cutscenes to confirm either, so I'll just concede on that point. Again though, it doesn't matter if anyone knows or not, it's still a fact that Venat's planned failed and would've again with Graha
Her plan was literally to leave it to the next 'generation' so to speak. The Ascians could not deal with the Meieon because of the inherit problem that she represented and what the Ascians were. The best they could do was hold it off indefinitely (via Zodiark). This would literally have just lead to the same ending as the one race seen in Dead Ends.
I'm not even arguing about the Ancients friend.
>Venat's plan was a total disaster until catboy salvaged it.
You do know that that whatever catboy did was only possible as a result of Venats actions, right?
And Emet's, but the point is that her plan has already failed so badly that a Graha had to hop to a new timeline
10 months ago
Anonymous
>And Emet's, but the point is that her plan has already failed
Bitch, G'raha was part of the plan, how hard is that to understand?
Go back to Discord, seriously
10 months ago
Anonymous
So she willingly condemned 3 civilisations to total destruction.
Imagine how many fricked up timelines exists all because of Venat. Grim.
10 months ago
Anonymous
This argument makes no sense.
You might as well say that Cid saved Hydaelyn's plan because he saved the WoL from the Garlean's in ARR with his airship.
10 months ago
Anonymous
Make perfect sense. We have a confirmed timeline of Venat's plan failing and Graha, using Allagan tech, jumped to a new timeline for a do over.
10 months ago
Anonymous
>We have a confirmed timeline of Venat's plan failing
There are infinite timelines, so Venat failing in a single one literally does not matter.
10 months ago
Anonymous
Why doesn't it matter?
10 months ago
Anonymous
Because infinite timelines means infinite possible outcomes.
There's an infinite amount of timelines where Venat fails, but also an infinite amount of timelines where Venat succeeds.
Which means that using timelines to judge if Venat was right or wrong is complete nonsense
10 months ago
Anonymous
>but also an infinite amount of timelines where Venat succeeds.
Alexander?
10 months ago
Anonymous
Alexander's ability to predict the future was limited
10 months ago
Anonymous
Yet I seem to remember everyone saying that Alexander saw through infinite timelines and only ours had a real chance at a future. Which used in arguments to justify why Venat was right.
10 months ago
Anonymous
Alexander's search across timelines were all about future actions he could take. He didn't look across every single possibility, he just looked at what would happen if he did X.
Venat was still right tho.
10 months ago
Anonymous
Fundamentally, that can't be right because he can't see past his own defeat. G'raha's ruined timeline takes place after Alexander since it happens after Stormblood, meaning there's bare minimum 2 timelines past Alexander that he didn't see.
There could be infinite timelines past that point. He just chose to commit suicide at that point in time (post-HW, pre-StB) and see that he either takes people with him or simply dies.
>Alexander saw through infinite timelines
That doesn't make any sense.
Even if he did look through an infinity of timelines, there isn't just one infinity, there are several infinities.
Which means he could've seen an infinite number of bad timelines while completely missing out on an infinite number of good timelines.
I am too sleepy to continue this discussion. So I will concede. Good night.
10 months ago
Anonymous
Fundamentally, that can't be right because he can't see past his own defeat. G'raha's ruined timeline takes place after Alexander since it happens after Stormblood, meaning there's bare minimum 2 timelines past Alexander that he didn't see.
There could be infinite timelines past that point. He just chose to commit suicide at that point in time (post-HW, pre-StB) and see that he either takes people with him or simply dies.
10 months ago
Anonymous
>Alexander saw through infinite timelines
That doesn't make any sense.
Even if he did look through an infinity of timelines, there isn't just one infinity, there are several infinities.
Which means he could've seen an infinite number of bad timelines while completely missing out on an infinite number of good timelines.
10 months ago
Anonymous
Her plan was literally to leave it to the next 'generation' so to speak. The Ascians could not deal with the Meieon because of the inherit problem that she represented and what the Ascians were. The best they could do was hold it off indefinitely (via Zodiark). This would literally have just lead to the same ending as the one race seen in Dead Ends.
10 months ago
Anonymous
That's a defeatist attitude. The Sundered were on the verge of defeat up to the last moment, the entire message there is even if death is inevitable, you can still live now for your own reasons.
Unless Venat decides you're hopeless, then it's thoroughly justified killing your whole race. It's even more confusing because we absolutely know that there were people supporting Venat, hence why she could become Hydaelyn, which means there wasn't consensus within the Ascians at all. The exact kind of behavior that shows they should have hope, even beyond ever individual we see but Altena being able to show empathy.
If it was unique to needing sundered people, they could've just sundered Azem alone and had more copies of him than the entirety of the Scions sent to deal with Ultima Thule.
10 months ago
Anonymous
>If it was unique to needing sundered people, they could've just sundered Azem alone and had more copies of him than the entirety of the Scions sent to deal with Ultima Thule.
You're forgetting that Azem didn't go along with either the Convocation or Venat, despite being one of Venat's closest confidants
10 months ago
Anonymous
The only reason the Sundered were able to fight on and try to live was because they spend their entire lives living on despite their suffering. They were born with the answer inherit, even if they don't know it.
The Ascians were not born in strife. They do not know strife. They're purpose driven, but because of that they willingly choose to die once their purpose is either complete or void. That is the entire question of Nihilism, if life has no purpose what do you do. The Ascians answer is to willingly die.
10 months ago
Anonymous
Man, like every claim there is bullshit. They didn't know suffering my ass, they had a world that had problems all their own, they went through a bigger world-ending apocalypse than any Sundered did and came out on the other side. Every single major player we see had convictions through thousands of years and the loss of their entire race and planet practically.
Not once is the Ascian answer to hardship to die either. The closest you're getting is that when they think they've experienced enough of life (as fricking immortal beings), they can reincarnate to get a new perspective. Death isn't final, they can literally visit the afterlife, they know their memories and soul will live on in the soul that's passed on. That's straight up peacefully relinquishing power to allow new life and new views to sprout.
10 months ago
Anonymous
>they went through a bigger world-ending apocalypse than any Sundered did and came out on the other side.
They didn't, and this is what you aren't understanding. They survived, only to completely lose their shit and be unable to accept what happened, resolving to start reaping the cycle of life to feed to Zodiark so they could pretend it never happened. >Death isn't final, they can literally visit the afterlife, they know their memories and soul will live on in the soul that's passed on.
No, they didn't understand shit. They had invented some magical fairytale version of death, displayed by the discomfort they showed when someone even used the word death. If they could accept death just fine because they knew that it continues on in some form, they wouldn't have been utterly mindbroken by the Final Days. They wouldn't have decided that this precious cycle was worth reaping and destroying for the sake of soothing their own grief.
10 months ago
Anonymous
You mean a portion of them wanted to sacrifice other life to gain back the people who needed to be sacrificed so that they didn't ALL die, even in Venat's plan.
The thing that was so essential to do that Venat then went out of her way to protect it on the moon to buy time for everyone else, but totally makes sense that the Ancients aren't given that same benefit of any time whatsoever to figure out what they can do against this completely unknown foe, which Venat will not explain to them but thoroughly does to WoL and co which is instrumental to them standing a chance at confronting it.
And again, even then Venat had an entire faction of people devoted to her shown in Anamnesis Anyder and why she could turn into Hydaelyn. In which case, a large portion of the remaining people didn't agree, so condemning all of them is as stupid as killing all the Sundered because of what the Garlaens or Ishgardians did.
And they absolutely know that life reincarnates if they return to the aetherial sea. They might not do the same if they're viciously murdered and their entire society turned into a living hell that renders the world uninhabitable until they used Zodiark a second time to make it capable of sustaining life again.
10 months ago
Anonymous
>You mean a portion of them wanted to sacrifice other life to gain back the people who needed to be sacrificed
You keep ignoring the fact that to do this they were going to reap the Lifestream. You know, the cycle of life and rebirth that YOU pointed out how much they cherished. Future Ancient lives were going to be fed into the machine because they personally couldn't cope with losing their friends. >but totally makes sense that the Ancients aren't given that same benefit of any time whatsoever to figure out what they can do against this completely unknown foe
They were, actually. You keep ignoring that there were lengthy debates about trying to convince them to move on and find the resolve that they would need to defeat Meteion. They weren't interested in that. They only wanted to pretend the bad stuff never happened. And that mindset CAN NOT defeat Meteion. It's impossible, it will not work. This is a vital thing you keep ignoring. >a large portion of the remaining people didn't agree, so condemning all of them
Venat's faction all became fuel for Hydaelyn's summoning. >And they absolutely know that life reincarnates if they return to the aetherial sea.
No, they understand the mechanics of that just fine. But what you're not understanding is that the flowery idea they had of how that works was all cope. Cope that blew up in their faces the moment they didn't have full control over it. When people died unexpectedly suddenly this cycle they loved and understood and had their whole society revolve around protecting suddenly wasn't as important as bringing back the dead. The cycle only works because it's a cycle. You can't cut out one part of it and have it still work.
10 months ago
Anonymous
>Venat's faction all became fuel for Hydaelyn's summoning.
This is true and false, it wasn't just her handful of direct followers, (those were the ones to sacrifice themselves to creat Hydaelyn) but a significant portion of the remaining Ancient population. That is the entire fricking reason Eldiibus eperated himself from Zodiark, because the entire Ancient population was devided over the moral conundrom of the Third Sacrifice, such that he had to come back out just to try and stop everyone from fighting.
Trancers like you act lik eit was just Venat and 12 other people who had an issue with the Third Sacrifice when it was about half the goddamn population. Go read the relevant short story regarding this.
10 months ago
Anonymous
>coomshit image
didn't read
10 months ago
Anonymous
Even if it was 12 other people, that's essentially what every fricking FF14 expansion is with the Scions vs everything, repeatedly. We have more than a Scions' worth of Ancient individuals that are totally fine, it just seems backwards as frick they are condemened to death for having an untested but likely hopeless future, when that's the same grounds Emperor Varis gave, Meteion's given, etc. etc.
10 months ago
Anonymous
The fact that these morons dont see the issue with a society that voluntarilly choses to kill themselves once they have fulfilled their societal duties is amazing. The ancients are one of the most obvious "dystopian utopia" I've ever seen written and it's shocking how this went over so many people's heads who actually think their society was anything but horrific.
10 months ago
Anonymous
It'd be dystopian if it was killing yourself when you've fulfilled your societal duties, well before a natural death takes place.
It's not though. A natural death doesn't take place, they are immortal as far as we can tell. And they live in a world where they're not even dying, they're just rerolling their life which lets them experience everything new again.
10 months ago
Anonymous
>And they live in a world where they're not even dying, they're just rerolling their life which lets them experience everything new again.
Funny how they didn't see things this way the moment it was out of their control, huh?
10 months ago
Anonymous
There's no telling that being horribly murdered will get your aether to the aetherial sea, and the way in which it happened means the one place that anyone can live seemingly no longer supports life, for no given reason in an apocalyptic event.
Seems pretty straightforward why they might be concerned.
10 months ago
Anonymous
>There's no telling that being horribly murdered will get your aether to the aetherial sea
Uhhh, yes there is. They routinely murdered test subjects in Elpis. Lahabrea was willing to murder everyone in Pandaemonium. What the frick kind of cope is this? You think the Ancients believed that the cycle of life doesn't function when murder takes place? Only when someone commits suicide? Hades and Hythlo could casually see the Lifestream at all times. >and the way in which it happened means the one place that anyone can live seemingly no longer supports life
Zodiark restarted the Lifestream by flushing aether into it. And where did that provided aether come from? From Ancients who gave their lives. Meaning the whole root of the renewed Lifestream was Ancient lives. And their idea was to... feed those lives right back into him.
10 months ago
Anonymous
>And they live in a world where they're not even dying, they're just rerolling their life which lets them experience everything new again.
When you die in this setting your memories are completely erased in the Aetherial Sea before you're reborn. You, the person you are in your previous life, ceases to exist forever. That's not simply "restarting life over" you are literally deleted from existence and your soul becomes a new person whom has no recollection or memories of your life.
10 months ago
Anonymous
You can awaken your old memories if you want. That's how the Unsundered make the masked Ascians, and they straight up explain it in the classroom in Sharlayan that your soul always has the memories engraved on it, it's just not exposed naturally until absolutely blasted with aether.
Either way, they usually go until they're bored and start over. They're fricking immortal and know reincarnation's a thing, go figure.
10 months ago
Anonymous
>You can awaken your old memories if you want. That's how the Unsundered make the masked Ascians
That's through soul crystals, which function by soaking up aether from the wielder. Someone with a similar wavelength can then attune to the memories. So they're not activating inner memories of the soul, they're using an external hard drive. >and they straight up explain it in the classroom in Sharlayan that your soul always has the memories engraved on it
Certain events can be engraved if they're seared in with an overload of aether. Meteion's message was seared into Hermes's soul because Kairos wiped memories by overloading the subject with aether and causing acute aether sickness (same thing that happened at Carteneau).
10 months ago
Anonymous
I've seen people refuse to believe that "return to the planet" meant commit suicide. I don't know how they thought the amuarotines died so they could be reborn, but they were triggered by the thought of suicide.
10 months ago
Anonymous
Zodiark Trancers would unironically want to live in ze pods and eat ze bugs.
10 months ago
Anonymous
Their answer to the 'bigger world-ending apocalypse' was just to go 'Nuh, it can't be happening, it CANT BE HAPPENING' and try to fricking undo it all. That's literally what Zodiark was meant to do. They couldn't cope with the catastrophy of willingly sacrificing their entire race, so they try to undo it. unsuccessfully, lmao
And yes, when an Ascian gets bored, tired of life, fulfills their purpose, ect., they just choose to die. If they were faced with the entire point of the expac that everything ends, and everything is pointless, they would just choose to die.
10 months ago
Anonymous
>Venat's plan was a total disaster until catboy salvaged it.
You do know that that whatever catboy did was only possible as a result of Venats actions, right?
Y'know it just hit me.
Zenos' speech in Garlemald applies to Venat too.
She did something horrific and abhorrent, which she herself acknowledges, because it was deemed necessary, yet she's still applauded for it because it served the needs of the main cast and ultimately benefitted them.
But good Lord I wanna give her a hug.
She didn't do anything without us telling her to do it. And she followed the script to the point she didn't give a frick about anything but what we told her.
Technically, she set in motion the events that led to your ability to save the universe
She didn't build a space ship, but she built the frickin' moon ship as an escape option, so technically she did build "a" space ship.
She didn't fight the endsinger, but her looping Echo caused the Scions to eventually form and become the motherfrickers that prayed the aether platform that kept your ass alive while fighting the Endsinger.
She didn't do anything directly, no. Much like Golbez, she sent others to do her bidding and only intervened directly when necessary.
>but she built the frickin' moon ship as an escape option
You know, when you think about it, that was a really dumb idea (by the devs) because once you get to the moon you no longer have Etheirys' protection. Endsinger would have completely fricked us once we left orbit.
It's assumed that the moon is encapsulated by Zodiark's Aether shield due to relative proximity + the fact that Zodiark himself was there and having the shield battery outside the shield and vulnerable to attack would've meant it'd have been nuked millenia ago.
the bozja armor sets suck tho. Also the music in the southern front is making homicidal by this point, is there a different tune in the next foray zones?
>they should have 10 tiers of recolored tights that each give +0.2% crit over the last one >before you join ur buds in raiding you have to get each tier of recolored tights >also there should be more furgay races
BACK to WOW!
Nah, just more RPG stuff that actually makes all the time spent in the game worthwhile, systems that allow you to make your character and class your own 🙂 >Back to WoW
Like I said, stop supporting bad games
Yes, that is my point. If they do add Wakka as a job, it would be a prange job, but they're clearly already hinting at Krile job switching to a new caster, so blitzballer as a job is unlikely.
There's nothing worse than a fantasy game setting having fundamental, world-shifting differences but having the plot treat it like it's the exact same thing as the real world without the context for why.
Like inherently treating a church like it's the Catholic church in the middle ages, but the game story has them doing none of that or in no positions of power. Or treating "death" the same as us when it's with immortal beings choosing to reincarnate, in a world where they can see this happen and pop their head into the afterlife to watch it take place.
the ishgardian church has some mixture of orthodox and catholic aesthetics, but in terms of religious content its still firmly pagan / polytheistic / state-subordinate etc. The nearest thing to abrahamic religion in the setting is in garlemald. Universalist, iconoclastic, dominionist, FAVSTIAN
I'm enjoying mount rokkon but I'm stuck right now and I feel like the answer is going to be something stupid like "you have to reach this point faster than hanwiener". I got 9/12 paths and now I'm considering looking up the rest.
Because 100% of them are homosexuals, trannies and wom#n lusting for Emet-Selch
Reminder that the leader of the Zodiark Trancers was doxxed and outed as a 36 year old french woman who identifies as asexual and is obsessed with not only Emet Selch but even mutton chops Nabrialis
Why is a middle aged white woman spending all her time on the internet involved with a discord server and the forums for a Japanese MMO and seething about a fictional female character all day every day?
>"What about your journey? Did you enjoy it?"
GOD I WANT TO FRICKING BREED YOU SO MUCH >"I... uh... Is this a prank, Azem? Where did you hide your camera this time?"
YES OR NO MOMMY >"I gotta go"
WHY DID YOU OMEGA DIE VENAT I WANTED TO FRICK YOUUUUUU
Uh, BIGOT, The Sundering was actually WORSE than the Rejoinings. Emet Selch actually did nothing wrong trying to destroy multiple worlds and everyone on them.
'Mommy' types really tend to be controversial by default. She's also villainized by Emet in ShB who many are thirsty for. I know someone who's reason for hating her comes down to "EMET SAID SHE WAS BAD AND THE GAME WAS SETTING HER UP TO BE EVIL EVEN WITH THE FIRST DIALOGUE SAYING YOU DON'T TRUST HER BUT IT DIDN'T GO ANYWHERE AND TRIES TO SAY SHE'S GOOD FRICKING MARY SUE b***h!"
Hydaelyn being evil was plausible up until the aftermath of Ktisis Hyperboreia and 'the walk'. the female voice saying 'At last...' when we killed Zodiark did fan the fire imho
'Mommy' types really tend to be controversial by default. She's also villainized by Emet in ShB who many are thirsty for. I know someone who's reason for hating her comes down to "EMET SAID SHE WAS BAD AND THE GAME WAS SETTING HER UP TO BE EVIL EVEN WITH THE FIRST DIALOGUE SAYING YOU DON'T TRUST HER BUT IT DIDN'T GO ANYWHERE AND TRIES TO SAY SHE'S GOOD FRICKING MARY SUE b***h!"
Crystal Mom has literally been with us since ARR. She spoke to us directly many times and sacrificed her own health to protect us. Only complete gays distrusted her.
'Mommy' types really tend to be controversial by default. She's also villainized by Emet in ShB who many are thirsty for. I know someone who's reason for hating her comes down to "EMET SAID SHE WAS BAD AND THE GAME WAS SETTING HER UP TO BE EVIL EVEN WITH THE FIRST DIALOGUE SAYING YOU DON'T TRUST HER BUT IT DIDN'T GO ANYWHERE AND TRIES TO SAY SHE'S GOOD FRICKING MARY SUE b***h!"
>they believe the guy who's out to genocide the source and all it's reflections
All ye walklets need to get your fatass off your chairs and walk the walk
my interpretation of this picture was that Hydaelyn and Zodiark were the same being, which is why I entertained the possibility that Hydaelyn may not have our best interests in mind
course i was wrong. but to deny my old theories would be immoral imho
Zodiark Trannies literally watch streamers JUST to see how they react to Venat and because literally 100% of streamers love Venat it makes them seethe and stop watching. Yes they are that petty.
>Who the frick are any of these people? Why are you spamming screenshots of random Discord trannies?
IT's a discord server of garlean/ascian stans who were minbroken by Venat in Endwalker. They originate from the EN forums (despite many of them being ltieral ESLs who shouldn't even be posting on the english forum in the first place) where they took over a thread complaining about Endwalker to seethe about Venat and what happened to the Ancients.
Eventually they created a discord grooming server where they coordinated raiding and vote manipulating other websites, including Ganker, where they would harass anyone who didn't 100% agree that "Venat=bad". Somebody infiltrated their server months back then exposed them on /xivg/. He even discovered that a /xivg/ Avatartroony was among their number
You can read the archives here, it was one of hte greatest /xivg/ threads in a long time:
>Venat is evil because she wouldn't kill herself like everyone else
Zodiark Trannies literally watch streamers JUST to see how they react to Venat and because literally 100% of streamers love Venat it makes them seethe and stop watching. Yes they are that petty.
LMFAO I was in their server (where they literally spend 24/7 coping and seething about Venat I shit you not) and reported one of their top moderators to the reddit jannies for using their sever to vote brigade (thats why when you see anyone argue about Venat it's always the same gaggle of morons who appear seemingly out of thin air to dogpile whoever is on the "venat=good" side of the argument as they will literally link posts from twitter/Ganker/reddit/youtube to their discord to dogpile and harass the person) and he got banned not only from all the FFXIV subreddits, but also r/MMOrpg (apparently a XIV subreddit mod mods for the MMO sub as well coincidentally)
Pic related was the ban appeal he sent to the reddit janny and said janny's response.
>You telling others in your discord group to go and downvote specific people is vote manipulation and a violation of side-wide rulse. >Ban upheald across all three subreddits
What would an entire Garlean expansion been?
Focus completely on the civil war? A full expansion of chasing after Zenos? Both of those Ideas seem kind of boring. What would your ideal Garlean expansion be?
the section of EW from thavnair 1 to fighting Anima. imagine each of the 3 subplots of Garlemald zone being their own zone and all the awesome escort quests, black circles and surveying 3 spots we missed 🙁
go from civil war to failed state clusterfrick, art deco ruins, malfunctioning steampunk stuff, medical horror (still no trannies tho), basically have the WoL infilitrate their collapsing society to try and steal a mcguffin.
Expand on Thavnair and Garlemald, have the moon as the final area. Make Zodiark the 6.3 boss so that the apocalypse can be expanded upon across two patches and a full expansion instead of only half an expansion.
anyway the reason why you should like Venat is even she did "genocide" the ancients, you ain't an ancient. And the remaining ancients (such as emet-selch) were certainly intent on harm to you, your friends, and your entire world. It seems like some sort of libtard pathology where they always side against their friends no matter how shitty their enemies are.
you know a small community of people exist that invades various sites, including this one, and attempt to bait people. and you are moronic enough to take the bait. every single time. if they weren't 100% serious they'd be legendary trolls
Considering that same enemy is the one that finished off his civilisation, he would probably be glad that someone actually did find a way to defeat her.
so imagine if you were capable of interstellar travel and your body and soul has just as much if more aetheric density as the ancients
to the point that your body scales can be used to create a protection against tempering and meteion
so now imagine you were never told the real enemy was within your reach, and you had a proper chance at defeating it
instead you are told to sit in a planet for 10000 years, waiting for the fabled warrior of light to appear
meanwhile all your children get killed, tortured, turned into moons, sent into the void by the allagan empire (created by the ascians, who were the ancients, who were the friends of venat, who are not the real enemies)
and then after venat died you get told all your suffering, which could arguably have been worse than what the omicrons would've done to you, was for nothing
doesn't matter if they could or could not have
they should have been given the choice
of course, this wouldn't be a plot hole if endwalker wasn't horribly written
if there was no tracker on meteion
if venat never had any memories of that day in elpis
but they had to write her to be a massive mary sue
they had to write her to be oh so cool
so cool that she has more combat prowess than the WoL
so cool that she can escape memory wipe
so cool that she puts a tracker on meteion when all hope of catching her is lost
>and your body and soul has just as much if more aetheric density as the ancients
Anon, we were literally told that this was this exact feature that made the Ancients unable to fight Meteion. Had Midgardsormr flown to UT, he would have died upon arrival since Meteion has absolute control over the environment in UT and could just choke him out. He couldn't have done like Thancred did and partially seize control of the environment of UT since he is entirely unable to interact with the ambient Dynamis, let alone manipulate it to his will.
The dragons had already lost all hope and were sitting on a dead rock waiting to die by the time Meteion ever noticed them.
>and your body and soul has just as much if more aetheric density as the ancients
Anon, we were literally told that this was this exact feature that made the Ancients unable to fight Meteion. Had Midgardsormr flown to UT, he would have died upon arrival since Meteion has absolute control over the environment in UT and could just choke him out. He couldn't have done like Thancred did and partially seize control of the environment of UT since he is entirely unable to interact with the ambient Dynamis, let alone manipulate it to his will.
The Ancients could still influence dynamis, as seen with the fact that Meteion and the flowers responded to Hermes. They just couldn't physically mesh with dynamis. If the Ancients had found the resolve to hope in the face of despair and continue forward, they absolutely could have defeated Meteion. But they weren't willing to do that and wanted to sit in a suicide bubble instead, so Venat had to do it to em.
>play XVI >party is barely existent, interesting characters like Cid or Benedikta get killed off for no payoff
It makes me appreciate it a lot that XIV doesn't kill its cast off and plays it more like a traditional FF*
*it still has a huge kill count, 'no stakes' gays just skip cutscenes. .
>people complain about last tier Savage because of dps checks >this tier is just nothing but mechanics >all of the mechanics are body checks and/or instant wipes
Do Trancers not realize that the Ancients are not the protagonists of this game? Their arguments suggest they think the game entirely revolves around them and not the WOL and the sundered.
The ancients served to show us that the ascians were always moronic and that hydaelyn was always unfathomably cute. Emet the CEO of ancients literally says that they fricked up multiple times.
I still don't get why the sundering deleted the ancient as a Race tho. How does a giant just turn into a shitty human or god forbid a lalafell from just a dropkick?
>I still don't get why the sundering deleted the ancient as a Race tho. How does a giant just turn into a shitty human or god forbid a lalafell from just a dropkick?
Ignoring Yoshida's dumbfrick nonsense explanation, think of it the way Varis put it. Every sundered race has its strengths, but also glaring weaknesses. If a perfect being was sundered, you could imagine that it would fragment all its qualities across multiple dimensions. So one fragment of that being retains intelligence but loses physical potency, another one is very agile but stupid, another is incredibly talented with magic but poor with practical engineering, etc. That's basically what the Five Races were in FFXI too. As containers for different aspects of Promathia, different aspects of his divinity were also presented in each of them.
Apparently when the Sundering happened, Ancient souls pretty much adapted into the races we see today as a form of coping mechanism. Or something to that effect.
>yfw the single most based thing SE could do to revive the game would be a storyline centered about getting Venat back and having fun & wholesome adventures with her around Meracydia as low power level 1 adventurers.
A man can hope, this would effectively make all the plagues in this game off themselves.
at the end of the day, they need to make the content hard enough so the entire playerbase doesn't blast that shit day one. DPS checks has worse overall effects on the game than body checks; dps checks narrow how much you can stress your healers (because now they want to use every single GCD for dps), and they encourage parsetroony behavior. Bodychecks just means you can't carry scrubs (you) once your ilvl gets high enough.
Anyone wish the devs would, since voice acting our characters is out of the question, at the very least use the pre-existing voiced-emotes (like laughing, grunts, etc.) in cutscenes? Like we get to have 12 different voices per gender (some race unique) that are used for emotes yet they never utilize them during cutscenes? Why can't their be cutscenes where our WOL laughs and actually uses the voiced /laugh emote? Why is it when we get knocked to the ground we don't make any vocal grunts that already exist and are used when we take dmg in combat?
It would make our characters feel far more alive if at the very least they the pre-existing utilized voiced emotes during cutscenes for us
small indie company, please understand, the devs are working hard, now buy more fanta to support all other flop enix projects while nothing gets invested in the game.
>criterion is also full of body checks and puzzle shit
I am so tired of the combat in Endwalker. Yes shit was simpler in ARR/HW but boy did I enjoy my time more with it.
Raid troons because they feel the need to gate keep. Other than that the game would be better served if it dialed down the complexity of encounters back and baked more difficulty into playing your class properly. Because if we follow the current trend classes will be simplified even more because they distract too much from doing DDR games.
So the chunk of Zodiark on the 13ths moon manifested itself into a Voidsent.
Is it possible that the chunk of Zodiark on the First got turned by the flood and in now a giant Sin Eater stuck up there?
>Is it possible that the chunk of Zodiark on the First got turned by the flood and in now a giant Sin Eater stuck up there?
Probably not, because the First is not a Void like the 13th, which would mean that Zodiark's aether would disperse normally
No. The First still has a lifestream, so the chunk of Zodiark's soul followed the path that all dead souls do. Besides, by the time we killed Zodiark, the Flood of Light was already over and Eden was already rendered inert.
Eden was just the first Sin Eater and caused the flood of light. Sin Eaters are still a thing on the First and always will be, until they manage to bring back life to the dead zones a d push the planets aether balance back to normal.
Also have to take into consideration that 200 years had passed since the flood and when we showed up to the first.
It literally doesn't matter unless you want to join a specific FC, since Data Center Travel is now a thing. Aether is where the tryhards congregate if you want to raid.
[...] >Hurr durr you mommyhomosexual give no arguments >You just dank on us ascian wankers like BRRRRRT
Oh boy, I sure love telling some trancer troony, for the 1000th time, how it's a bad idea to effectively do a ritual that involves killing your whole species and the planet in the vain hope of summoning a powerful enough dark god to prevent bad thing from happening.
>le zodiark trance haha gotcha
lol all you gays do is strawman and deflect
>wow wouldn't it be terrible if people had to deal with boredom from having no external hardships to deal with >i better fricking murder everyone to save them
Leave to a fricking woman to get upset at men being content.
No because everyone benchmarks off of rdps and also role enforcement is fairly strict (you NEED an rdps of some kind to get 1% increase in damage partywide and faster limit break generation)
The fact that rdps is the only thing that matters causes some other homosexualry but I don't want to get into it
It does pitiful DPS but nearly doubles the DPS of several people at a time, and also has mitigation tools. It's basically a pure support, which is a role that WoW and FF14 have historically been allergic to.
It does pitiful DPS but nearly doubles the DPS of several people at a time, and also has mitigation tools. It's basically a pure support, which is a role that WoW and FF14 have historically been allergic to.
Sounds fun, shame it's attached to scalie homosexualry
>It's basically a pure support
Look man I got some MSQ solo instance battles I gotta win in XIV and I don't want them to take an hour
Don't worry, you can be sure that Blizz found a way to frick it up.
>Hurr durr you mommyhomosexual give no arguments >You just dank on us ascian wankers like BRRRRRT
Oh boy, I sure love telling some trancer troony, for the 1000th time, how it's a bad idea to effectively do a ritual that involves killing your whole species and the planet in the vain hope of summoning a powerful enough dark god to prevent bad thing from happening.
Amaurot was a dystopian shithole that deserved to die. >work for hundreds of years then an hero, while all your loved ones clap and call it beautiful >have to wear a mask in public; individuality considered obscene >everyone a chipper homosexual whistling all the time, because they literally don't know what hardship or strife are >expected to sacrifice yourself for MUH STAR, with no other philosophies or ways of life considered
>being happy is liberal >and israelites did something I'm sure
Okay you've lost the narrative a bit here. Try and focus on how awful fun and positivity are.
Leftists do believe that the purpose of life is to always be happy and never be uncomfortable, yes. That's why they want the government to provide pod houses and xanax.
Once again, you're losing the narrative here and letting your schizoid culture warring tendencies take over. I want you to really think about how awful it would be to enjoy yourself and how you just crave disappoint to at least touch every aspect of your life. Focus on the phrase: >I had fun once and it was awful
Leftists do believe that the purpose of life is to always be happy and never be uncomfortable, yes. That's why they want the government to provide pod houses and xanax.
I like how you morons just an entire world and civilisation based on one group of people in one environment. That'd be like saying the Sundered civilisation deserved to die because of Garleans.
Where was the profound happiness, skipper-kun? Why didn't Meteion pick up mental traits from anyone but Hermes, skipper-kun? Was Hermes's enjoyment of candied apples part of the profound sadness?
>Was Hermes's enjoyment of candied apples part of the profound sadness?
The game LITERALLY tells you that when the flowers turn purple it is due to sadness and when they are yellow/white it is due to happiness. I'm sorry you can't read but don't make that my cross to bear.
?t=88 >Why didn't Meteion pick up mental traits from anyone but Hermes, skipper-kun?
Because his sadness was so profound that it was a void around him. Again, the game tells you this, autismo.
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>The game LITERALLY tells you that when the flowers turn purple it is due to sadness and when they are yellow/white it is due to happiness.
White is the base color, not the color of happiness. Yellow is the color of happiness. The flowers in Elpis are always baseline white, unless they're reacting to Hermes. Dumb skipper gay.
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>White is the base color, not the color of happiness. Yellow is the color of happiness. The flowers in Elpis are always baseline white, unless they're reacting to Hermes. Dumb skipper gay.
Yeah gonna need a source for that, chief. You've been fricking wrong about everything else. inb4 you skipped and i accept your concession
10 months ago
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Hermes literally has a whole scene where he mourns the fact that the flowers are always at their base white color and only ever respond to him. Holy shit skipper-kun stop embarrassing yourself.
10 months ago
Anonymous
Should be easy to find the scene where it states yellow is the color of happiness and they are base white because everyone else around them is numb. I'll wait.
10 months ago
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>Should be easy to find the scene where it states yellow is the color of happines
Yeah, the scene after Tower of Zot when you're talking to Nidhana. >and they are base white because everyone else around them is numb
Yeah, the scene I just mentioned where Hermes is mourning that very fact.
No, I'm not going to go to israelitetube and hunt down timestamps for you. Learn to play the game and follow the story yourself. You can easily look up the scenes yourself based on my descriptions of them if you want to.
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>No, I'm not going to go to israelitetube and hunt down timestamps for you.
Alright so you won't prove your point. Took me all of 2 minutes because I knew which exact cutscene I needed and about how far in it was. I guess this conversation just echoes off like a fart because you're afraid to find out you're wrong in a no-stakes argument with an anonymous person.
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But I'm literally correct, as you just found out. Which is why you aren't posting screencaps of those scenes. I'm just not interested in putting in any amount of work to try and prove something to someone who argues like a israelite and will come back next thread and pretend it never happened.
10 months ago
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>you won't make my argument for me so I win >and that also makes you a israelite for disagreeing with me
Okay, anon.
10 months ago
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>you won't make my argument for me so I win
So you do admit that the scenes in question prove my argument? Thanks, Moshe. >and that also makes you a israelite for disagreeing with me
You're a israelite because of the way you argue. It's obvious to those of us who have souls. Prime example is one of your previous posts where you said "OH YEAH CAN YOU SHOW ME A SCREENCAP OF HERMES SAYING THE EXACT PHRASE 'WHITE IS THE BASE COLOR'????" I'm just not going to devote any amount of energy to trying to prove something to someone who isn't interested in actually finding the truth, but who is only interested in pushing their personal interpretation of events and will gleefully lie and handwave and plug their ears and come back next thread posting the same tired shit again.
10 months ago
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>Prime example is one of your previous posts where you said "OH YEAH CAN YOU SHOW ME A SCREENCAP OF HERMES SAYING THE EXACT PHRASE 'WHITE IS THE BASE COLOR'????"
Let's look at what you (yourself) said:
[...]
1/2 - Found this so far. Looking for mentions of yellow and others.
>Hermes literally has a whole scene where he mourns the fact that the flowers are always at their base white color and only ever respond to him.
I asked you to find that scene you said exists and you lost your marbles. You could have just not made that claim if you didn't want to prove it. >I'm just not going to devote any amount of energy to trying to prove something to someone who isn't interested in actually finding the truth
You know, not everyone that responds to you is some boogeyman you've constructed, anon. I avoid FFXIV threads normally because of Barryposting and WoW/GW2 spam. This one remained on topic somehow so I decided to engage. If you're tired of arguing then just don't come into the threads and respond. More importantly, seeing your perspective as THE TRUTH that others need to wander toward to no longer be lost is gonna just make you bitter.
10 months ago
Anonymous
Should be easy to find the scene where it states yellow is the color of happiness and they are base white because everyone else around them is numb. I'll wait.
1/2 - Found this so far. Looking for mentions of yellow and others.
10 months ago
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Yellow comes up in the scene with Nidhana.
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2/2
3/2 - They're purple here while he's being an emo b***h
How much later is the Nidhana scene? Might help me find it easier.
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>How much later is the Nidhana scene?
It's earlier, right after Tower of Zot, when she first tells you about dynamis under the name of akasa.
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4/2
I don't have shots of the rest of her text in this scene, apparently. I do have another where it's green, interestingly enough, next post.
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4/2
I don't have shots of the rest of her text in this scene, apparently. I do have another where it's green, interestingly enough, next post.
5/2 - Green flower as Graha eats his Hamburger
10 months ago
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Green might be contentment? Feelings of friendship?
10 months ago
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horny
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The fact that it takes until then even for Sundered people is weird how it was being used as any metric for emotional capacity of people.
Especially when it's by detecting dynamis of a person, and Ancients are made of WAY more aether that cancels out dynamis. The fact they had any colors at all would be like lighting a hot enough flame on a match that it burns underwater.
10 months ago
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>and Ancients are made of WAY more aether that cancels out dynamis.
It's only their bodies that are so dense that dynamis can't mesh. They still affect the ambient dynamis around them.
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2/2
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2/2
Thank you for your effort, anon.
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Meant to quote
Hermes literally has a whole scene where he mourns the fact that the flowers are always at their base white color and only ever respond to him. Holy shit skipper-kun stop embarrassing yourself.
in this post
>Prime example is one of your previous posts where you said "OH YEAH CAN YOU SHOW ME A SCREENCAP OF HERMES SAYING THE EXACT PHRASE 'WHITE IS THE BASE COLOR'????"
Let's look at what you (yourself) said:
[...] >Hermes literally has a whole scene where he mourns the fact that the flowers are always at their base white color and only ever respond to him.
I asked you to find that scene you said exists and you lost your marbles. You could have just not made that claim if you didn't want to prove it. >I'm just not going to devote any amount of energy to trying to prove something to someone who isn't interested in actually finding the truth
You know, not everyone that responds to you is some boogeyman you've constructed, anon. I avoid FFXIV threads normally because of Barryposting and WoW/GW2 spam. This one remained on topic somehow so I decided to engage. If you're tired of arguing then just don't come into the threads and respond. More importantly, seeing your perspective as THE TRUTH that others need to wander toward to no longer be lost is gonna just make you bitter.
>You vill wear ze robe >You vill wear ze mask >You vill not love your parents >You vill not use your creation magics to make whatever you want >You vill submit your creations for approval or you vill not be allowed to create them >You vill wageslave for centuries >You vill kill yourzelf when you are no longer useful to us >And you VILL be happy
It's a society where people's emotions were literally supressed because some random schizo might have a bad day then go joker mode and create some world-ending monstrosity. They quite literally were not happy because they were not allowed to feel literally anything.
Also >Nuclear family does not exist, everyone belongs to the collective society not their parents. Nobody actually loves their parents and only sees them as their birthers, as Elidibus says.
More than that, they're also hypocrites >make a big deal about how emotions are fleeting and they try to ignore them and focus on logic >despite this, CONSTANTLY see Ancients ape out and act purely on erratic emotion >say that everything they do is for the good of the star >despite this, entirely willing to sacrifice the innocent life of the star for their own good >worse yet, they decided not to do anything when the apocalypse was destroying other people because it wasn't their problem yet >claim that they would make a noble sacrifice that Sundered life wouldn't >that sacrifice was primarily made to make an entity that would then be able to reverse the sacrifice at the expense of others, and the sacrifice was mandated by the government regardless of what others thought >further, Sundered life not only made the same sacrifice in the Doomed timeline, they did it of their own volition, and did it not even to save themselves but to save another reality's version of themselves >make a big deal about how all of the Ancients are benevolent, wise, and kind >meet many, many Ancients that are murderous, heartless psychopaths that are worse than even the cruelest of Sundered life
Every single argument that's ever made regarding the supposed superiority of the Ancients is complete and utter cope that's dismantled with a second of thought. The only thing they were better at is creation magic.
There was never actually any argument made it was literally Emet just spouting shit. If you actually took him at his word and internalized any of it you're just dumb. Even in ShB it seemed more like cope than anything.
>If you actually took him at his word and internalized any of it you're just dumb.
Yeah, that's what I was pointing out. It was always cope with obvious holes in it from the start, but people took him at his word and ignored every bit of evidence to the contrary so that they could say Hydaelyn was evil and the Ascians were the good guys. All of the Ascian simps are just completely incapable of realizing that it's obviously bullshit and he's just coping.
Even having Emet straight-up look at the camera and address the player to say that the Ancients wouldn't have been able to succeed where Sundered life did wasn't enough to get it through to some people. Having an entire, drawn-out sequence showing Sundered life coming together to rise against hardship in a way that Ancients couldn't wasn't enough, either.
Yeah I'm sure that the time he's making up bullshit is when he's a ghost that's fading away and finally, for once, has the full picture of everything that's happened.
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Either way, you're defending shitty writing simply because they made a character say one line about how things totally couldn't have been done a different way and the plot had to go this exact direction. Completely ham-fisted but I guess that's all it takes to deflect criticism.
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You're ignoring every other point that's been made to argue that somebody admitting that they were wrong and wouldn't have been able to do what you did is a plot contrivance. The main opposition to Venat saying "She was right" isn't ham-fisted, and the plot wasn't forced to go in this direction. It's reaffirming what you should have known: the Ascians were coping, mass-murdering psychopaths that were clearly in the wrong even if there was sympathy for their plight.
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>coping, mass-murdering psychopaths that were clearly in the wrong
sounds like Venat tho
Can you please just make an honest argument? >despite this, entirely willing to sacrifice the innocent life of the star for their own good
All life is not equal. >decided not to do anything when the apocalypse was destroying other people because it wasn't their problem yet
If they'd jumped in to get involved you'd be criticizing them for being a globalist Big Brother. >that would then be able to reverse the sacrifice
This wasn't decided upon in advance moron. >the sacrifice was mandated by the government regardless of what others thought
Eric literally just opted out and left, "social cohesion is coercion!" is deranged thinking. >Sundered life not only made the same sacrifice in the Doomed timeline
One tiny group in the form of the Ironworks decided to do it and had some tacit support elsewhere, but parts of their own group told them to frick off and left when the official mission statement of pressing the reset button on the whole universe was revealed, so not only is it not equivalent but you're also clearly someone who argues from the other side of his mouth that the ancients doing the sacrifice plan was evil and moronic to begin with, something you argue in the very previous line and which is also true of the Ironworks since they never asked for universal consent to potentially delete the entire fricking timeline. >meet many, many Ancients that are murderous, heartless psychopaths that are worse than even the cruelest of Sundered life
They're no better or worse, that's literally the point of the fricking story but five minutes from now you'll also be arguing that they deserved to die because they're lesser and inferior and had to be excised to make a better race, which is exactly the thinking within they themselves that you say makes them heartless psychopaths.
This entire thread is full of this sort of reductionist, homierdly thinking. The only sane post in this den of seething and schizophrenia was
because venat is basically the only morally grey character in the story
even emet's moral greyness is just >yeah he has some valid points and you might even do the same thing if you were in his shoes but he's still bad and has to die
people like to argue and the sundering is the only thing in xiv that can actually be argued about
>All life is not equal.
If you're LARPing as stewards of the star, all life should be sacred and you shouldn't abuse innocent life to cope with your inability to actually handle loss. >If they'd jumped in to get involved you'd be criticizing them for being a globalist Big Brother.
No, I wouldn't, because am overarching theme of the game is that refusing to help when you have ample ability to is cowardice, not wisdom. It's the entire problem with Sharlayan and it's the one thing Louisoix constantly espouses. >This wasn't decided upon in advance moron.
It's suggested that they thought it would be a possibility, and it does effect the nobility of the sacrifice. If you try to reverse the noble thing you did so you no longer lost anything, you can't then talk about how great your sacrifice was. >Eric literally just opted out and left, "social cohesion is coercion!" is deranged thinking.
No, he says he has to "defy" a "directive", which implies more than just social pressure, and the fact that he didn't just say "nah I don't feel like it." >One tiny group in the form of the Ironworks decided to do it and had some tacit support elsewhere...
Read the short story where it shows loads of different factions contributing and offering their help, even as the world collapsed and burned down around them. It was a bunch of people without hope of survival contributing what they could to a dream of helping others, to the extent that it taught Omega what the meaning of hope was.
Another more obvious example is everybody coming together to help with the Ragnarok. >bunch of strawman arguments where you put words in my mouth and make up shit I'm "going" to say before I say it
Eat a dick. The point I was making is that the Ancients are just as capable of being evil monsters as Sundered life, and they're not more noble or benevolent or pure. They didn't deserve to die, but they didn't deserve to kill other stuff to preserve their lives, which is what they kept trying.
are there actual stands to buy shit at FanFest, or is Yoshi Piss just going to force everyone into the conference booth and not announce the next expansion after 6 hours of talking
>is Yoshi Piss just going to force everyone into the conference booth and not announce the next expansion after 6 hours of talking
This sounds very realistic to me
SB and older boomers, how do you feel about the state of the game?
I've unironically spent over half of EW unsubbed. I think I will treat it as a visual novel from now on, sub 1 month before expac, play all the content and then leave for 2 years.
i been playing since 1.0 and i stopped being invested in the story somewhere in 2.x, just would resub for expansions and thats it, then I actually enjoyed ShB so much I have been subbed for the past few years but I didnt really like EW, I think post 6.0 is extremely terrible and I no longer have any hopes or enthusiasm for the game and I dont look forward to 7.0 at all.
People really wanted her to be the ultra big bad of the game because they created their own universes where she was the sole evil who caused everything bad to happen because she's a woman. When Square didn't cater to their fanfiction they lost their absolute shit.
Yeah, you can literally not say a single bad thing about her in the game and neither will the NPCs
You even get a choice to tell her something near the end of the game and the options are basically "wow you're so awesome!" and "sorry I didn't realize you were so awesome sooner"
They decided to make some dumb cutscene set to Answers that dramatically summarizes the events rather than actually show them. We didn't even get to see her kick Zodiark into the Moon.
>Oh my god they're playing Answers while they visualize her suffering by having her covered in blood! >It's so emotional!
A good cutscene would have been the actual events like seeing Emet and Lahabrea surviving it, or her fighting Zodiark.
And the community will defend the shitters. Had a DRG auto attacking only in p7n and I called him out, had two people immedailty jump to his fricking defense.
>Tfw you do the most damage of the party in a dungeon >TFW you're the healer
I don't fricking understand how it's okay to get all the way to fricking Lapis Manalis and still be so fricking terrible at playing the game. Not just damage, but unable to do basic mechanics. At this point, I should just do roulettes as Warrior and essentially be a one man party.
The game does a shit job at teaching players anything and makes zero attempt to filter those who don't even do the absolute minimum. Its mind boggling that they had to implement difficulty options for the MSQ duties when they were already braindead as frick.
Final Fantasy XIV characters look like polystyrene dolls, game is boring, other than deep dungeons ( that people cheat to do because they suck ) and side content the game has nothing to offer, glorified chatroom that is not worth what it cost monthly.
>this is what leftists actually believe
I honestly can't wait for these things to become widespread so all you nihilist homosexuals can walk straight into the abyss.
>be me >I believe in assisted suicide and glad the law passed >Present day >All Doctors now: YOUR KNEE HURTS? HMM. I THINK YOU NEED SOME DEATH TO CURE WHAT AILS YA.
Let's talk about me.
Why am I so handsome?
Brave?
Intelligent?
Cunning?
Persuasive?
Well endowed?
Witty?
Strong?
And above all, better at internet arguments?
That's a grotesque avatargayging attention prostitute who constantly spams this board, not even just XIV threads, with his disgusting gynecomastia fetish.
If you tank, you're the hero, the main guy, the one mobs actually fight with.
If you're the healer, you're the bottom b***h hiding behind everybody and not even directly participating in the fight.
That’s not how it plays tho. It just you getting pinched and spanked by a big ugly monster, the whole your sweating bullets and thinking “oh I hope healer-sama notices I’m in trouble! Save me healer-senpai!”
The Ilberd thing is hilarious to me, because he does something pretty horrendous, but it literally set the wheels of change in motion for the better and everyone kinda pretends it didn't happen out of morals.
The dude really did believe in something and got it done and it was a just cause.
>and everyone kinda pretends it didn't happen out of morals.
Raubahn does have a scene reflecting on it, but that's before it turned out that Ilberd's actions somehow ended up being the root of SO MANY of the actions that ended up leading to the overall plot of the game.
1 week until we see the basic part of the Opening, one or two of the new zones with no hints of where they really are, a hint of a new job, and maybe female Hrothgar.
Am I the only one who thinks Island Sanctuary is a horrible piece of content that doesn't actually add anything of value to the game?
The entire point of it is basically private housing, but not even truly that.
Then to play and be on top of it you need to use your sub and the whole foundation revolves around a weekly timed handicraft thing.
I'm not mad, but I think that if people get mad at that shit they'd be within their rights to despise the game for capping them so heavily for wanting to sink more time into it.
Clicking nodes over and over again and not even giving you a toggled run seems absolutely out of touch to me.
And the rare animals are a huge waste opportunity, too. The island is all in all extremely small and there are no real underwater areas, just two spots at the north west and south-east.
I feel like there's no justification for it. They just didn't care enough to put more budget into the game to make it something worthwhile.
It actually makes me want to unsub.
I was thinking about resubbing for the next update but I'm reconsidering at this point because It just doesn't feel worth it.
And before you go "Oh well just go play other games!" No shit moron yeah I'm already doing that, but If I get the itch to come back and play and the game fricking sucks and has no content to justify the sub-fee.
This shit feels like a F2P title right now.
They could have come up with something way better than this dogshit, is all I'm saying
>Am I the only one who thinks Island Sanctuary is a horrible piece of content
Of course not
It's been what, almost a year since they released it and with the exception of the first week needed to set shit up, it's been nothing but setting up workshops 2-3 times a week (Could be once a week if you really don't care about optimal Cowrie returns) then fricking off and waiting for a timer. You can spend in total less than 10 minutes a week on the island and still get everything it has to offer and yet they spent way too much time making this.
- Hmph (・`ω´・) How vewy gwib. And do you bewieve in Eowzea?
- Eowzea's unyity is fowged of fawsehoods. Its city-states awe buiwt on deceit. And its faith is an instwument of deception.
- It is nyaught but a cobweb of wies. To bewieve in Eowzea is to bewieve in nyothing.
- In Eowzea, the beast twibes often summon gods to fight in theiw stead─though youw comwades onwy wawewy wespond in kind. Which is stwange, is it nyot?
- Awe the “Twewve” othewwise engaged? I was given to undewstand they wewe youw pwotectows. If you twuwy bewieve them youw guawdians, why do you nyot wepeat the twick that sewved you so weww at Cawtenyeau, and caww them down?
- They wiww answew─so wong as you wavish them with cwystaws and gowge them on aethew.
- Youw gods awe nyo diffewent fwom those of the beasts─eikons evewy onye. Accept but this, and you wiww see how Eowzea's faith is bweeding the wand dwy.
- Nyow is this unknyown to youw mastews. Which pwompts the question: why do they cwing to these fawse deities? What dwives even men of weawnying─even the gweat Wouisoix─to gwuvw at theiw feet?
- The answew? Youw mastews wack the stwength to do othewwise ;;w;;
- Fow the wowwd of man to mean anything, man must own the wowwd.
- To this end, he hath fought evew to waise himsewf thwough confwict─to gwow wich thwough conquest.
- And when the dust of battwe settwes, it is evew the stwong who dictate the fate of the weak.
- Knyowing this, but a singwe path is open to the impotent wuwew─that of fawse wowship. A path which weads to enyewvation and death.
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Honestly MMOs in general are shit right now.
I doubt Riot's MMO will be any good, either. League is such a fricking piece of shit game, and the balance in that makes me wonder if I should even hold my fricking breath.
Legends of Runeterra was also fricking abhorrently bad. Worthless card game that only buttholes would take seriously enough to competitively pursue. I had this one friend who tried to get me into it and he sank hundreds of dollars only to drop it a month later.
Typical moron who plays that game.
Hey homosexual, I remember that thread and I'm a little curious, why'd you clip the post to avoid showing that it's almost a whole fricking year old? Could it be because you've been seething so hard with the cognitive dissonance of having your own ideology thrown back at you that it's stuck in your head that entire time?
Every time someone comes to pretend that Venat is some based trad mommy and the ancients were globalist commies, please remember that this is what all the Venatgays on the official forums look like.
Cleretic, the troon in that pic, is someone from the official FF forums who had the audacity to btfo Zodiark Trancers in the lore subforum so badly that they tried doxxing him for it.
Trancers are also trannies themselves which makes it funnier
>I remember that thread
Go back >why'd you clip the post
I saved that picture from Ganker >you've been seething so hard with the cognitive dissonance of having your own ideology thrown back at you
There's no dissonance. Venat was right and abortion is murder.
Morally it's wrong but the effect it would have in the future would be completely justified.
Venat is worse than anything else in the game, and the fact that she's portrayed as anything less than that speaks to how shit the writing is.
>NOOOOO YOU CAN'T LET ONE OF THE FEW GOOD ANCIENTS LEAD THE WAY TO A FUTURE WHERE THE STAR LIVES ON NOOOO YOU HAVE TO LET THEM ALL KILL THEMSELVES LIKE THE moronS THEY ARE NOOOOOOOOO LIFE MOVING ON IS EEEEEEVIL
If Venat was a man and everything he said and did remained the same the story would have done the right thing and made others view him as someone that nobly sacrificed their reputation and legacy to do a necessary evil. They wouldn't have leaned into the coward "she's your mommy and protected you" vibes.
Vauthry literally never had a choice. He was corrupted in the womb, and as a sin eater he's physically unable to do anything but try to spread indolence.
I'm a rail thin lanklet, so it's not relating to his appearance, but the reason is because he was purely a victim of Emet's bullshit and he never had a choice in the matter. There's a reason his true form is called Innocence.
>If Venat was a man, would people be throwing these massive shitfits?
Yep. HOWEVER if emet selch was a woman, no one would care. The whole issue was Emet was a sexy serial killer, and that is very appealing to mentally ill women. So they threw their lot in with him, and made an entire discord where they groomed androgynous confused zoomers ( no one born after 1995 has a fully formed biological sex ) into spamming this nonsense. If emet-selch was just a c**t, no one would care about the ancients.
>trancecord wakes up >thread hits bump limit at light speed as they raid it and post garbage no one cares about
what a garbage thread
90% of the posts are them replying to themselves like GPT-3 bots too
Two technically. >6.50
Zeromus fight + "We should use Eden" >6.55
We actually used Eden, everything is solved + someone going "Hey WoL I want to go to [NEW PLACE] want to come with me?"
We're going to wrap up Zeromus, and either Merge or somehow "link" the First and Thirteenth to restore the cycle of life and death, then it's off to Meracydia with our new pair of Dragon friends, probably under the guise of trade agreements initially until the next big bad reveals itself.
my interpretation of this picture was that Hydaelyn and Zodiark were the same being, which is why I entertained the possibility that Hydaelyn may not have our best interests in mind
course i was wrong. but to deny my old theories would be immoral imho
Not to mention, wasn't FF4: After Years all about moon cycles? Did it have twin moons? Being the "AFTER" years, it makes sense since we just had the FF4 expansion. But god fricking help us if the anything important is actually based on that garbage game.
FFIV had twin moons, with the red moon being the Lunarian spacecraft. It left at the end of the game and the thing that kicked off the story in After Years was that it was coming back.
Given our knowledge of how Calamities occurred in the Source, and Emet's explanation in ShB, the Aether from the shard flowed into the Source. Unlike normal elements, light and dark cancel each other out (stasis and constancy), and since it's going to another Shard and not the Source, they can bypass any potential Calamity bullshit, probably.
Not only will the mixing of Light from the First cause Death to be possible in the 13th, but Dark from the 13th will restore the flow of life to the Expanse in the First and both will slowly return to some kind of normal.
>t. Casual that thinks BLU is the best class and rarely plays xpacs till after the BLU updates
What the frick is going on, are you guys literally being militant about some random lore errata.
Do you need a fricking shower? Go and shower now. Do some of your dishes and laundry. Maybe hug someone.
I'm more curious how anyone managed to infiltrate them in the first place. The Trancers linked their discord to the FF forums routinely. I've never seen the Shazamcord drop a link to their own server anywhere, let alone this website. I'm just amazed somebody managed to find out they have a discord AND infiltrate it.
Her role in EW just felt so contrived and neither the player nor the other characters were ever really allowed by the author to meaningfully challenge it.
She committed genocide, maybe that's why bucko.
Because she saved the world for 12,000 years by allowing billions of people to die with mortal lives because she sundered an entire planet.
How the frick did Ryne manage to remain the cutest vidya character to this day, 4 years after Shadowbringers?
What is the honest appeal of Ryne?
Underage baby making sex
Blonde Ryne is better, post her
I swear people only pretend that ginger Ryne is better because they know we'll never get the good version back.
Because she has a canon girlfriend and yuri is patrician
>Canon
Not a fricking chance. She's the WoL's sleeve.
They keep each other company on the lonely nights when WoL isn't around to frick them senseless.
because venat is basically the only morally grey character in the story
even emet's moral greyness is just
>yeah he has some valid points and you might even do the same thing if you were in his shoes but he's still bad and has to die
people like to argue and the sundering is the only thing in xiv that can actually be argued about
>oh, my brave little spark. mommy's jack off crystal needs charging...
This woman saved the entire universe, yet people would still judge her for her methods
imagine if to save the entire universe we just had to sacrifice all humans in it
I bet you would do it without hesitation
>I bet you would do it without hesitation
I would do it if that meant creating a world with catgirls and thighlanders in it and then being reborn as one
unfortunately no
the same people who praise venat would not hesitate to extinguish all of humanity for the sake of saving the planet and the enviroment
irl
I agree with Venat, but I also know the difference between sundering the planet in a fantasy world, and actual irl genocide.
/v/irgins would destroy the planet for sharts and chuckles
yeah if people here had any power they would immediately abuse it
Not without hesitation, no. However I can say that it would be the right action to take.
Would you end the entire universe if humans could not survive in it?
>imagine if to save the entire universe we just had to sacrifice all humans in it
>I bet you would do it without hesitation
My dude humans still exist after the sundering. Go look around ingame and see people are thriving. Her actions ensured the peopleof the future would even exist, along with the rest of the universe.
Your argument is basically "muh race (ancients in this case) is superior to everyone else, Venat bad because she betrayed muh master race to do the objectively right thing"
I would not do it because an universe without humans (me) is meaningless to me
However I would do it because frick mankind
No she didn't, she failed miserably and gay catboy had to salvage her moronic plan
We literally told her that was going to happen as part of the plot.
And? That timeline still exists, she failed hardcore.
So she personally offed one civilisation and failed to save the new one she created? Nice.
>hat timeline still exists
And nobody knows that. Not even G'raha.
Yes he does and the Scions know about it too. And it still wouldn't matter if anyone knew or not. Venat's plan was a total disaster until catboy salvaged it.
>Yes he does and the Scions know about it too.
What? No. Nobody fricking knows, when G'raha left his timeline the people left behind were wondering if they'd disappear. G'raha has literally zero reason to know that they're still there, much less the other Scions. Where the frick have you read any of them talking about his timeline still existing?
I am not gonna rewatch hours of cutscenes to confirm either, so I'll just concede on that point. Again though, it doesn't matter if anyone knows or not, it's still a fact that Venat's planned failed and would've again with Graha
I'm not even arguing about the Ancients friend.
And Emet's, but the point is that her plan has already failed so badly that a Graha had to hop to a new timeline
>And Emet's, but the point is that her plan has already failed
Bitch, G'raha was part of the plan, how hard is that to understand?
Go back to Discord, seriously
So she willingly condemned 3 civilisations to total destruction.
And she saved everyone as a result
Only because of a cat and Emet (Allagan)
And the A to the L to the E to the XANDER
Imagine how many fricked up timelines exists all because of Venat. Grim.
This argument makes no sense.
You might as well say that Cid saved Hydaelyn's plan because he saved the WoL from the Garlean's in ARR with his airship.
Make perfect sense. We have a confirmed timeline of Venat's plan failing and Graha, using Allagan tech, jumped to a new timeline for a do over.
>We have a confirmed timeline of Venat's plan failing
There are infinite timelines, so Venat failing in a single one literally does not matter.
Why doesn't it matter?
Because infinite timelines means infinite possible outcomes.
There's an infinite amount of timelines where Venat fails, but also an infinite amount of timelines where Venat succeeds.
Which means that using timelines to judge if Venat was right or wrong is complete nonsense
>but also an infinite amount of timelines where Venat succeeds.
Alexander?
Alexander's ability to predict the future was limited
Yet I seem to remember everyone saying that Alexander saw through infinite timelines and only ours had a real chance at a future. Which used in arguments to justify why Venat was right.
Alexander's search across timelines were all about future actions he could take. He didn't look across every single possibility, he just looked at what would happen if he did X.
Venat was still right tho.
I am too sleepy to continue this discussion. So I will concede. Good night.
Fundamentally, that can't be right because he can't see past his own defeat. G'raha's ruined timeline takes place after Alexander since it happens after Stormblood, meaning there's bare minimum 2 timelines past Alexander that he didn't see.
There could be infinite timelines past that point. He just chose to commit suicide at that point in time (post-HW, pre-StB) and see that he either takes people with him or simply dies.
>Alexander saw through infinite timelines
That doesn't make any sense.
Even if he did look through an infinity of timelines, there isn't just one infinity, there are several infinities.
Which means he could've seen an infinite number of bad timelines while completely missing out on an infinite number of good timelines.
Her plan was literally to leave it to the next 'generation' so to speak. The Ascians could not deal with the Meieon because of the inherit problem that she represented and what the Ascians were. The best they could do was hold it off indefinitely (via Zodiark). This would literally have just lead to the same ending as the one race seen in Dead Ends.
That's a defeatist attitude. The Sundered were on the verge of defeat up to the last moment, the entire message there is even if death is inevitable, you can still live now for your own reasons.
Unless Venat decides you're hopeless, then it's thoroughly justified killing your whole race. It's even more confusing because we absolutely know that there were people supporting Venat, hence why she could become Hydaelyn, which means there wasn't consensus within the Ascians at all. The exact kind of behavior that shows they should have hope, even beyond ever individual we see but Altena being able to show empathy.
If it was unique to needing sundered people, they could've just sundered Azem alone and had more copies of him than the entirety of the Scions sent to deal with Ultima Thule.
>If it was unique to needing sundered people, they could've just sundered Azem alone and had more copies of him than the entirety of the Scions sent to deal with Ultima Thule.
You're forgetting that Azem didn't go along with either the Convocation or Venat, despite being one of Venat's closest confidants
The only reason the Sundered were able to fight on and try to live was because they spend their entire lives living on despite their suffering. They were born with the answer inherit, even if they don't know it.
The Ascians were not born in strife. They do not know strife. They're purpose driven, but because of that they willingly choose to die once their purpose is either complete or void. That is the entire question of Nihilism, if life has no purpose what do you do. The Ascians answer is to willingly die.
Man, like every claim there is bullshit. They didn't know suffering my ass, they had a world that had problems all their own, they went through a bigger world-ending apocalypse than any Sundered did and came out on the other side. Every single major player we see had convictions through thousands of years and the loss of their entire race and planet practically.
Not once is the Ascian answer to hardship to die either. The closest you're getting is that when they think they've experienced enough of life (as fricking immortal beings), they can reincarnate to get a new perspective. Death isn't final, they can literally visit the afterlife, they know their memories and soul will live on in the soul that's passed on. That's straight up peacefully relinquishing power to allow new life and new views to sprout.
>they went through a bigger world-ending apocalypse than any Sundered did and came out on the other side.
They didn't, and this is what you aren't understanding. They survived, only to completely lose their shit and be unable to accept what happened, resolving to start reaping the cycle of life to feed to Zodiark so they could pretend it never happened.
>Death isn't final, they can literally visit the afterlife, they know their memories and soul will live on in the soul that's passed on.
No, they didn't understand shit. They had invented some magical fairytale version of death, displayed by the discomfort they showed when someone even used the word death. If they could accept death just fine because they knew that it continues on in some form, they wouldn't have been utterly mindbroken by the Final Days. They wouldn't have decided that this precious cycle was worth reaping and destroying for the sake of soothing their own grief.
You mean a portion of them wanted to sacrifice other life to gain back the people who needed to be sacrificed so that they didn't ALL die, even in Venat's plan.
The thing that was so essential to do that Venat then went out of her way to protect it on the moon to buy time for everyone else, but totally makes sense that the Ancients aren't given that same benefit of any time whatsoever to figure out what they can do against this completely unknown foe, which Venat will not explain to them but thoroughly does to WoL and co which is instrumental to them standing a chance at confronting it.
And again, even then Venat had an entire faction of people devoted to her shown in Anamnesis Anyder and why she could turn into Hydaelyn. In which case, a large portion of the remaining people didn't agree, so condemning all of them is as stupid as killing all the Sundered because of what the Garlaens or Ishgardians did.
And they absolutely know that life reincarnates if they return to the aetherial sea. They might not do the same if they're viciously murdered and their entire society turned into a living hell that renders the world uninhabitable until they used Zodiark a second time to make it capable of sustaining life again.
>You mean a portion of them wanted to sacrifice other life to gain back the people who needed to be sacrificed
You keep ignoring the fact that to do this they were going to reap the Lifestream. You know, the cycle of life and rebirth that YOU pointed out how much they cherished. Future Ancient lives were going to be fed into the machine because they personally couldn't cope with losing their friends.
>but totally makes sense that the Ancients aren't given that same benefit of any time whatsoever to figure out what they can do against this completely unknown foe
They were, actually. You keep ignoring that there were lengthy debates about trying to convince them to move on and find the resolve that they would need to defeat Meteion. They weren't interested in that. They only wanted to pretend the bad stuff never happened. And that mindset CAN NOT defeat Meteion. It's impossible, it will not work. This is a vital thing you keep ignoring.
>a large portion of the remaining people didn't agree, so condemning all of them
Venat's faction all became fuel for Hydaelyn's summoning.
>And they absolutely know that life reincarnates if they return to the aetherial sea.
No, they understand the mechanics of that just fine. But what you're not understanding is that the flowery idea they had of how that works was all cope. Cope that blew up in their faces the moment they didn't have full control over it. When people died unexpectedly suddenly this cycle they loved and understood and had their whole society revolve around protecting suddenly wasn't as important as bringing back the dead. The cycle only works because it's a cycle. You can't cut out one part of it and have it still work.
>Venat's faction all became fuel for Hydaelyn's summoning.
This is true and false, it wasn't just her handful of direct followers, (those were the ones to sacrifice themselves to creat Hydaelyn) but a significant portion of the remaining Ancient population. That is the entire fricking reason Eldiibus eperated himself from Zodiark, because the entire Ancient population was devided over the moral conundrom of the Third Sacrifice, such that he had to come back out just to try and stop everyone from fighting.
Trancers like you act lik eit was just Venat and 12 other people who had an issue with the Third Sacrifice when it was about half the goddamn population. Go read the relevant short story regarding this.
>coomshit image
didn't read
Even if it was 12 other people, that's essentially what every fricking FF14 expansion is with the Scions vs everything, repeatedly. We have more than a Scions' worth of Ancient individuals that are totally fine, it just seems backwards as frick they are condemened to death for having an untested but likely hopeless future, when that's the same grounds Emperor Varis gave, Meteion's given, etc. etc.
The fact that these morons dont see the issue with a society that voluntarilly choses to kill themselves once they have fulfilled their societal duties is amazing. The ancients are one of the most obvious "dystopian utopia" I've ever seen written and it's shocking how this went over so many people's heads who actually think their society was anything but horrific.
It'd be dystopian if it was killing yourself when you've fulfilled your societal duties, well before a natural death takes place.
It's not though. A natural death doesn't take place, they are immortal as far as we can tell. And they live in a world where they're not even dying, they're just rerolling their life which lets them experience everything new again.
>And they live in a world where they're not even dying, they're just rerolling their life which lets them experience everything new again.
Funny how they didn't see things this way the moment it was out of their control, huh?
There's no telling that being horribly murdered will get your aether to the aetherial sea, and the way in which it happened means the one place that anyone can live seemingly no longer supports life, for no given reason in an apocalyptic event.
Seems pretty straightforward why they might be concerned.
>There's no telling that being horribly murdered will get your aether to the aetherial sea
Uhhh, yes there is. They routinely murdered test subjects in Elpis. Lahabrea was willing to murder everyone in Pandaemonium. What the frick kind of cope is this? You think the Ancients believed that the cycle of life doesn't function when murder takes place? Only when someone commits suicide? Hades and Hythlo could casually see the Lifestream at all times.
>and the way in which it happened means the one place that anyone can live seemingly no longer supports life
Zodiark restarted the Lifestream by flushing aether into it. And where did that provided aether come from? From Ancients who gave their lives. Meaning the whole root of the renewed Lifestream was Ancient lives. And their idea was to... feed those lives right back into him.
>And they live in a world where they're not even dying, they're just rerolling their life which lets them experience everything new again.
When you die in this setting your memories are completely erased in the Aetherial Sea before you're reborn. You, the person you are in your previous life, ceases to exist forever. That's not simply "restarting life over" you are literally deleted from existence and your soul becomes a new person whom has no recollection or memories of your life.
You can awaken your old memories if you want. That's how the Unsundered make the masked Ascians, and they straight up explain it in the classroom in Sharlayan that your soul always has the memories engraved on it, it's just not exposed naturally until absolutely blasted with aether.
Either way, they usually go until they're bored and start over. They're fricking immortal and know reincarnation's a thing, go figure.
>You can awaken your old memories if you want. That's how the Unsundered make the masked Ascians
That's through soul crystals, which function by soaking up aether from the wielder. Someone with a similar wavelength can then attune to the memories. So they're not activating inner memories of the soul, they're using an external hard drive.
>and they straight up explain it in the classroom in Sharlayan that your soul always has the memories engraved on it
Certain events can be engraved if they're seared in with an overload of aether. Meteion's message was seared into Hermes's soul because Kairos wiped memories by overloading the subject with aether and causing acute aether sickness (same thing that happened at Carteneau).
I've seen people refuse to believe that "return to the planet" meant commit suicide. I don't know how they thought the amuarotines died so they could be reborn, but they were triggered by the thought of suicide.
Zodiark Trancers would unironically want to live in ze pods and eat ze bugs.
Their answer to the 'bigger world-ending apocalypse' was just to go 'Nuh, it can't be happening, it CANT BE HAPPENING' and try to fricking undo it all. That's literally what Zodiark was meant to do. They couldn't cope with the catastrophy of willingly sacrificing their entire race, so they try to undo it. unsuccessfully, lmao
And yes, when an Ascian gets bored, tired of life, fulfills their purpose, ect., they just choose to die. If they were faced with the entire point of the expac that everything ends, and everything is pointless, they would just choose to die.
>Venat's plan was a total disaster until catboy salvaged it.
You do know that that whatever catboy did was only possible as a result of Venats actions, right?
It's good that that timeline exists still. Emet and Hydaelyn are still alive in that timeline.
Guess what, the Ancients were fricked anyway.
So Venat's plan was the best chance they had
Y'know it just hit me.
Zenos' speech in Garlemald applies to Venat too.
She did something horrific and abhorrent, which she herself acknowledges, because it was deemed necessary, yet she's still applauded for it because it served the needs of the main cast and ultimately benefitted them.
But good Lord I wanna give her a hug.
She didn't save the universe, we did.
She didn't build a space ship, we did.
She didn't fight the Endsinger, we did.
Based
All she did is frick everything up and wait for others to fix her mess
You're just being a contrarian for the sake of it.
We saved the universe because she led us there
We built the spaceship because she led us there
We fought the Endsinger because she led us there
She didn't do anything without us telling her to do it. And she followed the script to the point she didn't give a frick about anything but what we told her.
It's all about us.
I can't believe WoL's dad jacking off before sex so the WoL spermazoa was in line to reach the egg saved the universe.
We exist because she sundered everyone
She provided the route and fuel
We only got to fight the Endsinger because Zenos ate what was left of her fuel
Technically, she set in motion the events that led to your ability to save the universe
She didn't build a space ship, but she built the frickin' moon ship as an escape option, so technically she did build "a" space ship.
She didn't fight the endsinger, but her looping Echo caused the Scions to eventually form and become the motherfrickers that prayed the aether platform that kept your ass alive while fighting the Endsinger.
She didn't do anything directly, no. Much like Golbez, she sent others to do her bidding and only intervened directly when necessary.
>but she built the frickin' moon ship as an escape option
You know, when you think about it, that was a really dumb idea (by the devs) because once you get to the moon you no longer have Etheirys' protection. Endsinger would have completely fricked us once we left orbit.
It's assumed that the moon is encapsulated by Zodiark's Aether shield due to relative proximity + the fact that Zodiark himself was there and having the shield battery outside the shield and vulnerable to attack would've meant it'd have been nuked millenia ago.
Frick you, I did it for her.
Stop sexualizing my mom
She saved me during that one fight so it's fine I guess.
>look mom I posted it again
lol
and you are still mad about no content
your life has no content
that's something common with endwalker then :^)
the bozja armor sets suck tho. Also the music in the southern front is making homicidal by this point, is there a different tune in the next foray zones?
Maybe, fending and maiming are cool though. Plus, law's order sets are GOAT. Fending, maiming, healing and casting are 11/10.
Zadnor has the same theme, and it's even uglier than the southern front.
>Gear that does nothing for your character is content for FF14 players
Please stop supporting bad games.
>they should have 10 tiers of recolored tights that each give +0.2% crit over the last one
>before you join ur buds in raiding you have to get each tier of recolored tights
>also there should be more furgay races
BACK to WOW!
Nah, just more RPG stuff that actually makes all the time spent in the game worthwhile, systems that allow you to make your character and class your own 🙂
>Back to WoW
Like I said, stop supporting bad games
Why are you posting glamour gear like it's content?
>>>/vg/
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damn they made this shit so intense now
i lost this fight the first time as blm
Yeah it's pretty great, shame most people won't see it.
Yeah, they made this a hell of a lot better, and then they balanced it by completely ruining the Steps of Faith.
Venat is the only non-gay thing in FFXIV. XIV cultists are gay trannies so evidently they hate on her.
Reminder that the new job is Blitzballer
But what Role will it be?
Ranged DPS using Scouting gear
Caster DPS. MAGIC balls.
ranged(scouting)
Doubt they'll add a caster and a pranged at the same time.
One of the new jobs has to be a caster.
Yes, that is my point. If they do add Wakka as a job, it would be a prange job, but they're clearly already hinting at Krile job switching to a new caster, so blitzballer as a job is unlikely.
There's nothing worse than a fantasy game setting having fundamental, world-shifting differences but having the plot treat it like it's the exact same thing as the real world without the context for why.
Like inherently treating a church like it's the Catholic church in the middle ages, but the game story has them doing none of that or in no positions of power. Or treating "death" the same as us when it's with immortal beings choosing to reincarnate, in a world where they can see this happen and pop their head into the afterlife to watch it take place.
the ishgardian church has some mixture of orthodox and catholic aesthetics, but in terms of religious content its still firmly pagan / polytheistic / state-subordinate etc. The nearest thing to abrahamic religion in the setting is in garlemald. Universalist, iconoclastic, dominionist, FAVSTIAN
I'm enjoying mount rokkon but I'm stuck right now and I feel like the answer is going to be something stupid like "you have to reach this point faster than hanwiener". I got 9/12 paths and now I'm considering looking up the rest.
I think notes 3 and 12 are a bit of a stretch in how you can figure it out, good luck.
Why is it that 100%, literally EVERY SINGLE "Venat=bad" moron is an Ascian fanboy?
Because 100% of them are homosexuals, trannies and wom#n lusting for Emet-Selch
Reminder that the leader of the Zodiark Trancers was doxxed and outed as a 36 year old french woman who identifies as asexual and is obsessed with not only Emet Selch but even mutton chops Nabrialis
Why is a middle aged white woman spending all her time on the internet involved with a discord server and the forums for a Japanese MMO and seething about a fictional female character all day every day?
Nabriales was based though
we don't know what his job was. he's the only one
>"What about your journey? Did you enjoy it?"
GOD I WANT TO FRICKING BREED YOU SO MUCH
>"I... uh... Is this a prank, Azem? Where did you hide your camera this time?"
YES OR NO MOMMY
>"I gotta go"
WHY DID YOU OMEGA DIE VENAT I WANTED TO FRICK YOUUUUUU
Uh, BIGOT, The Sundering was actually WORSE than the Rejoinings. Emet Selch actually did nothing wrong trying to destroy multiple worlds and everyone on them.
>not only are you reading youtube comments
>you're fricking voting on them
'Mommy' types really tend to be controversial by default. She's also villainized by Emet in ShB who many are thirsty for. I know someone who's reason for hating her comes down to "EMET SAID SHE WAS BAD AND THE GAME WAS SETTING HER UP TO BE EVIL EVEN WITH THE FIRST DIALOGUE SAYING YOU DON'T TRUST HER BUT IT DIDN'T GO ANYWHERE AND TRIES TO SAY SHE'S GOOD FRICKING MARY SUE b***h!"
Hydaelyn being evil was plausible up until the aftermath of Ktisis Hyperboreia and 'the walk'. the female voice saying 'At last...' when we killed Zodiark did fan the fire imho
Crystal Mom has literally been with us since ARR. She spoke to us directly many times and sacrificed her own health to protect us. Only complete gays distrusted her.
on EW release we were fresh off of learning that she was in fact a primal and that she was an autodialer saying Hear, Feel, Think
We were also fresh off learning that she had an ancient as her heart—an ancient who opposed, you know, the literal sacrifice of children.
>he didn't believe
>they believe the guy who's out to genocide the source and all it's reflections
All ye walklets need to get your fatass off your chairs and walk the walk
I walked my 10000 steps today
>top reply
my interpretation of this picture was that Hydaelyn and Zodiark were the same being, which is why I entertained the possibility that Hydaelyn may not have our best interests in mind
course i was wrong. but to deny my old theories would be immoral imho
>tfw still no way to replay solo duties without NG+ing the whole story
i just want to spar with venat again bros...
Does Pint know that a bunch of Ascian fantards are raiding his videos and harassing his community because he likes Venat?
>*sees video praising Endwalker and Venat*
*Punches hole in wall*
I CANT VOMIT AGGRESSIVELY ENOUGH
It's just a bunch of teenagers
Zodiark Trannies literally watch streamers JUST to see how they react to Venat and because literally 100% of streamers love Venat it makes them seethe and stop watching. Yes they are that petty.
Who the frick are any of these people? Why are you spamming screenshots of random Discord trannies?
>Who the frick are any of these people? Why are you spamming screenshots of random Discord trannies?
IT's a discord server of garlean/ascian stans who were minbroken by Venat in Endwalker. They originate from the EN forums (despite many of them being ltieral ESLs who shouldn't even be posting on the english forum in the first place) where they took over a thread complaining about Endwalker to seethe about Venat and what happened to the Ancients.
Eventually they created a discord grooming server where they coordinated raiding and vote manipulating other websites, including Ganker, where they would harass anyone who didn't 100% agree that "Venat=bad". Somebody infiltrated their server months back then exposed them on /xivg/. He even discovered that a /xivg/ Avatartroony was among their number
You can read the archives here, it was one of hte greatest /xivg/ threads in a long time:
https://arch.b4k.co/vg/thread/418958841/#418959041
The fact that /xivg/ would keep tabs on a bunch of mentally ill homosexuals tells me everything I know.
*need to know
frick
Oh, so it's /xivg/ shit. Why can't you gays stay in your containment thread? I post here specifically to avoid hearing about Discord trannies 24/7.
/xivg/ is such a shit fricking general, but this was glorious
IIRC that avatargay basically vanished from that general after being outed. He still posts on twitter I believe.
LMFAO I was in their server (where they literally spend 24/7 coping and seething about Venat I shit you not) and reported one of their top moderators to the reddit jannies for using their sever to vote brigade (thats why when you see anyone argue about Venat it's always the same gaggle of morons who appear seemingly out of thin air to dogpile whoever is on the "venat=good" side of the argument as they will literally link posts from twitter/Ganker/reddit/youtube to their discord to dogpile and harass the person) and he got banned not only from all the FFXIV subreddits, but also r/MMOrpg (apparently a XIV subreddit mod mods for the MMO sub as well coincidentally)
Pic related was the ban appeal he sent to the reddit janny and said janny's response.
>You telling others in your discord group to go and downvote specific people is vote manipulation and a violation of side-wide rulse.
>Ban upheald across all three subreddits
>Venat is evil because she wouldn't kill herself like everyone else
>She doesn't return to the planet literally because mother knows best
The fricking astounding irony and hipocrisy in this line.
Endwalker could've been great if they hadn't saddled a Garlean expansion with it.
What would an entire Garlean expansion been?
Focus completely on the civil war? A full expansion of chasing after Zenos? Both of those Ideas seem kind of boring. What would your ideal Garlean expansion be?
the section of EW from thavnair 1 to fighting Anima. imagine each of the 3 subplots of Garlemald zone being their own zone and all the awesome escort quests, black circles and surveying 3 spots we missed 🙁
go from civil war to failed state clusterfrick, art deco ruins, malfunctioning steampunk stuff, medical horror (still no trannies tho), basically have the WoL infilitrate their collapsing society to try and steal a mcguffin.
Expand on Thavnair and Garlemald, have the moon as the final area. Make Zodiark the 6.3 boss so that the apocalypse can be expanded upon across two patches and a full expansion instead of only half an expansion.
anyway the reason why you should like Venat is even she did "genocide" the ancients, you ain't an ancient. And the remaining ancients (such as emet-selch) were certainly intent on harm to you, your friends, and your entire world. It seems like some sort of libtard pathology where they always side against their friends no matter how shitty their enemies are.
you know a small community of people exist that invades various sites, including this one, and attempt to bait people. and you are moronic enough to take the bait. every single time. if they weren't 100% serious they'd be legendary trolls
It probably does work so much because they're genuine.
but is it trolling if they actually believe it?
That just means they're also trolling themselves.
did venat put a tracker on meteion and did she lose her memories?
Mommy did nothing wrong.
Mom...
I want to breed that hag.
I don't think Venat is evil, I think she's moronic but has big breasts.
how would midgardsormr react when he gets told that the real enemy was known to venat many years before he even set foot on etheyris?
he should shut his scalie ass up before we deport his asexual race of smug refugees back to alpha centauri or wherever they are from.
Considering that same enemy is the one that finished off his civilisation, he would probably be glad that someone actually did find a way to defeat her.
so imagine if you were capable of interstellar travel and your body and soul has just as much if more aetheric density as the ancients
to the point that your body scales can be used to create a protection against tempering and meteion
so now imagine you were never told the real enemy was within your reach, and you had a proper chance at defeating it
instead you are told to sit in a planet for 10000 years, waiting for the fabled warrior of light to appear
meanwhile all your children get killed, tortured, turned into moons, sent into the void by the allagan empire (created by the ascians, who were the ancients, who were the friends of venat, who are not the real enemies)
and then after venat died you get told all your suffering, which could arguably have been worse than what the omicrons would've done to you, was for nothing
there's no way in hell emotional creatures like dragons could have defeated meteion
doesn't matter if they could or could not have
they should have been given the choice
of course, this wouldn't be a plot hole if endwalker wasn't horribly written
if there was no tracker on meteion
if venat never had any memories of that day in elpis
but they had to write her to be a massive mary sue
they had to write her to be oh so cool
so cool that she has more combat prowess than the WoL
so cool that she can escape memory wipe
so cool that she puts a tracker on meteion when all hope of catching her is lost
just spare us that bullshit
Don't you have to dillate right now, Trancer?
now you finally understand what the actual problem people have with venat
What does NB stand for?
jesus christ anon. i wasn't even trying to get your goat and you just handed it to me. make me work for it
>so imagine if you were capable of interstellar travel
Ancients didn't have this ability.
I'm sure they weren't
now imagine a race of massive creatures who escape their own star to get to etheyris escaping murder machines
>and your body and soul has just as much if more aetheric density as the ancients
Anon, we were literally told that this was this exact feature that made the Ancients unable to fight Meteion. Had Midgardsormr flown to UT, he would have died upon arrival since Meteion has absolute control over the environment in UT and could just choke him out. He couldn't have done like Thancred did and partially seize control of the environment of UT since he is entirely unable to interact with the ambient Dynamis, let alone manipulate it to his will.
The dragons had already lost all hope and were sitting on a dead rock waiting to die by the time Meteion ever noticed them.
The Ancients could still influence dynamis, as seen with the fact that Meteion and the flowers responded to Hermes. They just couldn't physically mesh with dynamis. If the Ancients had found the resolve to hope in the face of despair and continue forward, they absolutely could have defeated Meteion. But they weren't willing to do that and wanted to sit in a suicide bubble instead, so Venat had to do it to em.
>play XVI
>party is barely existent, interesting characters like Cid or Benedikta get killed off for no payoff
It makes me appreciate it a lot that XIV doesn't kill its cast off and plays it more like a traditional FF*
*it still has a huge kill count, 'no stakes' gays just skip cutscenes. .
Yea, but why would you post that picture?
Because it shows the Scions who are the main party with what I assume is someones WoL.
That WoL has had a lot of commissions, so you'll run into them alot.
https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/2389886?q=miqo%27te+dark_skin+
EW ruined these threads
>Pictured: Average XIV thread
>people complain about last tier Savage because of dps checks
>this tier is just nothing but mechanics
>all of the mechanics are body checks and/or instant wipes
Zzzzzz and no it wasn't fun expect for P10S.
All the body checks are seriously starting to get to me progging in my current group, I really hope they tone that shot down.
Have you tried not dying?
I have, and it's not helping.
Even if you don't die you can't say the same about your 7 other team mates. All it takes is one person to frick up to get a wipe.
Venat's plan was moronic, the only reason we won was because of time travel
EW was a mistake
>yfw you're being the best girl and everyone knows it
next expansion will have aussie lalas, right?
Nina was literally BUILT for sex
Beautiful lala
Do Trancers not realize that the Ancients are not the protagonists of this game? Their arguments suggest they think the game entirely revolves around them and not the WOL and the sundered.
The ancients served to show us that the ascians were always moronic and that hydaelyn was always unfathomably cute. Emet the CEO of ancients literally says that they fricked up multiple times.
I still don't get why the sundering deleted the ancient as a Race tho. How does a giant just turn into a shitty human or god forbid a lalafell from just a dropkick?
>I still don't get why the sundering deleted the ancient as a Race tho. How does a giant just turn into a shitty human or god forbid a lalafell from just a dropkick?
Ignoring Yoshida's dumbfrick nonsense explanation, think of it the way Varis put it. Every sundered race has its strengths, but also glaring weaknesses. If a perfect being was sundered, you could imagine that it would fragment all its qualities across multiple dimensions. So one fragment of that being retains intelligence but loses physical potency, another one is very agile but stupid, another is incredibly talented with magic but poor with practical engineering, etc. That's basically what the Five Races were in FFXI too. As containers for different aspects of Promathia, different aspects of his divinity were also presented in each of them.
Yeah but did they really need to shrink down and grow cat ears ? Hydaelyn turned the planet into a fricking petting zoo with the sundering.
Apparently when the Sundering happened, Ancient souls pretty much adapted into the races we see today as a form of coping mechanism. Or something to that effect.
ever run into an actual Garleboo?
Reminder that Venat is 100% gone and we will never see her again.
>yfw the single most based thing SE could do to revive the game would be a storyline centered about getting Venat back and having fun & wholesome adventures with her around Meracydia as low power level 1 adventurers.
A man can hope, this would effectively make all the plagues in this game off themselves.
at the end of the day, they need to make the content hard enough so the entire playerbase doesn't blast that shit day one. DPS checks has worse overall effects on the game than body checks; dps checks narrow how much you can stress your healers (because now they want to use every single GCD for dps), and they encourage parsetroony behavior. Bodychecks just means you can't carry scrubs (you) once your ilvl gets high enough.
Anyone wish the devs would, since voice acting our characters is out of the question, at the very least use the pre-existing voiced-emotes (like laughing, grunts, etc.) in cutscenes? Like we get to have 12 different voices per gender (some race unique) that are used for emotes yet they never utilize them during cutscenes? Why can't their be cutscenes where our WOL laughs and actually uses the voiced /laugh emote? Why is it when we get knocked to the ground we don't make any vocal grunts that already exist and are used when we take dmg in combat?
It would make our characters feel far more alive if at the very least they the pre-existing utilized voiced emotes during cutscenes for us
small indie company, please understand, the devs are working hard, now buy more fanta to support all other flop enix projects while nothing gets invested in the game.
>small indie company
It would take literally zero effort or money to just insert the pre-existing voiced emotes into cutscenes tho.
I've stopped having expectations of XIV and unsub to it often.
>criterion is also full of body checks and puzzle shit
I am so tired of the combat in Endwalker. Yes shit was simpler in ARR/HW but boy did I enjoy my time more with it.
Do anyone even like overly complex fights? It got so tired of them after shb, the best fight in the game is literally the simplest (Odin)
Raid troons because they feel the need to gate keep. Other than that the game would be better served if it dialed down the complexity of encounters back and baked more difficulty into playing your class properly. Because if we follow the current trend classes will be simplified even more because they distract too much from doing DDR games.
We must create the perfect Odin.
The lalafell odin
>Do anyone even like overly complex fights?
I don't. Frick savage. I'm not studying for a videogame
So the chunk of Zodiark on the 13ths moon manifested itself into a Voidsent.
Is it possible that the chunk of Zodiark on the First got turned by the flood and in now a giant Sin Eater stuck up there?
>Is it possible that the chunk of Zodiark on the First got turned by the flood and in now a giant Sin Eater stuck up there?
Probably not, because the First is not a Void like the 13th, which would mean that Zodiark's aether would disperse normally
No. The First still has a lifestream, so the chunk of Zodiark's soul followed the path that all dead souls do. Besides, by the time we killed Zodiark, the Flood of Light was already over and Eden was already rendered inert.
Eden was just the first Sin Eater and caused the flood of light. Sin Eaters are still a thing on the First and always will be, until they manage to bring back life to the dead zones a d push the planets aether balance back to normal.
Also have to take into consideration that 200 years had passed since the flood and when we showed up to the first.
Mite b cool
>The First's moon became a sin eater
Would be too kino for this game.
Ausgay here. I'm moving to an NA server.
I was going to move back to Behemoth, but it's full of BRs nowadays. Which should I pick?
It literally doesn't matter unless you want to join a specific FC, since Data Center Travel is now a thing. Aether is where the tryhards congregate if you want to raid.
Thighlanders
yes, thank you
Kings
>we never got to get pictures with full-size Venat and regular-size us
>no giant mommy stuff
Frick off Zodiark troony.
Go trance into another gender somewhere else
>le zodiark trance haha gotcha
lol all you gays do is strawman and deflect
>Post a dumbass picture while malding about people not agreeing with you
>Complain about getting called a dumbass
typical
>wow wouldn't it be terrible if people had to deal with boredom from having no external hardships to deal with
>i better fricking murder everyone to save them
Leave to a fricking woman to get upset at men being content.
did dancers get kicked from groups for doing low dps when they came out?
no because DPS meter autism is very rare in XIV
No because everyone benchmarks off of rdps and also role enforcement is fairly strict (you NEED an rdps of some kind to get 1% increase in damage partywide and faster limit break generation)
The fact that rdps is the only thing that matters causes some other homosexualry but I don't want to get into it
Sounds like DNC? Or it only buffs ppl while having 1 spell for damage
It does pitiful DPS but nearly doubles the DPS of several people at a time, and also has mitigation tools. It's basically a pure support, which is a role that WoW and FF14 have historically been allergic to.
Sounds fun, shame it's attached to scalie homosexualry
>It's basically a pure support
Look man I got some MSQ solo instance battles I gotta win in XIV and I don't want them to take an hour
Don't worry, you can be sure that Blizz found a way to frick it up.
I see nothing wrong.
>tfw talked about adding in support jobs
Wowee
now thats balance. maybe i'll dust off my DK if they're that good
>WoW having another unchecked powercreep situation
Kek, I remember HFC Arcane memes, at least it's not happening in Mythic yet?
>Coolest job is the most powerful
That's called good balance
There is nothing wrong with using the combo plugin since its already implemented in pvp.
I love mommy and laugh at trancers.
Everytime my Wol goes back to Elpis
sigh. sauce?
>Hurr durr you mommyhomosexual give no arguments
>You just dank on us ascian wankers like BRRRRRT
Oh boy, I sure love telling some trancer troony, for the 1000th time, how it's a bad idea to effectively do a ritual that involves killing your whole species and the planet in the vain hope of summoning a powerful enough dark god to prevent bad thing from happening.
Amaurot was a dystopian shithole that deserved to die.
>work for hundreds of years then an hero, while all your loved ones clap and call it beautiful
>have to wear a mask in public; individuality considered obscene
>everyone a chipper homosexual whistling all the time, because they literally don't know what hardship or strife are
>expected to sacrifice yourself for MUH STAR, with no other philosophies or ways of life considered
>Amaurot was a dystopian shithole that deserved to die.
Literally Endsinger logic lol
>being happy is dystopian
Might be the most Ganker-inspired post I've ever read.
>you vill get in ze pod
>you vill take your medications
>you vill be happy, you have no choice
>being happy is liberal
>and israelites did something I'm sure
Okay you've lost the narrative a bit here. Try and focus on how awful fun and positivity are.
Fun is great. State-mandated suicide parties aren't.
Once again, you're losing the narrative here and letting your schizoid culture warring tendencies take over. I want you to really think about how awful it would be to enjoy yourself and how you just crave disappoint to at least touch every aspect of your life. Focus on the phrase:
>I had fun once and it was awful
Leftists do believe that the purpose of life is to always be happy and never be uncomfortable, yes. That's why they want the government to provide pod houses and xanax.
They literally weren't happy, which is why they showed you the flowers not responding to anyone but Hermes.
I like how you morons just an entire world and civilisation based on one group of people in one environment. That'd be like saying the Sundered civilisation deserved to die because of Garleans.
They didn't respond to anyone but Hermes because Hermes was the only one feeling profound sadness. You have it backwards, goober.
Where was the profound happiness, skipper-kun? Why didn't Meteion pick up mental traits from anyone but Hermes, skipper-kun? Was Hermes's enjoyment of candied apples part of the profound sadness?
>Was Hermes's enjoyment of candied apples part of the profound sadness?
The game LITERALLY tells you that when the flowers turn purple it is due to sadness and when they are yellow/white it is due to happiness. I'm sorry you can't read but don't make that my cross to bear.
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>Why didn't Meteion pick up mental traits from anyone but Hermes, skipper-kun?
Because his sadness was so profound that it was a void around him. Again, the game tells you this, autismo.
>The game LITERALLY tells you that when the flowers turn purple it is due to sadness and when they are yellow/white it is due to happiness.
White is the base color, not the color of happiness. Yellow is the color of happiness. The flowers in Elpis are always baseline white, unless they're reacting to Hermes. Dumb skipper gay.
>White is the base color, not the color of happiness. Yellow is the color of happiness. The flowers in Elpis are always baseline white, unless they're reacting to Hermes. Dumb skipper gay.
Yeah gonna need a source for that, chief. You've been fricking wrong about everything else. inb4 you skipped and i accept your concession
Hermes literally has a whole scene where he mourns the fact that the flowers are always at their base white color and only ever respond to him. Holy shit skipper-kun stop embarrassing yourself.
Should be easy to find the scene where it states yellow is the color of happiness and they are base white because everyone else around them is numb. I'll wait.
>Should be easy to find the scene where it states yellow is the color of happines
Yeah, the scene after Tower of Zot when you're talking to Nidhana.
>and they are base white because everyone else around them is numb
Yeah, the scene I just mentioned where Hermes is mourning that very fact.
No, I'm not going to go to israelitetube and hunt down timestamps for you. Learn to play the game and follow the story yourself. You can easily look up the scenes yourself based on my descriptions of them if you want to.
>No, I'm not going to go to israelitetube and hunt down timestamps for you.
Alright so you won't prove your point. Took me all of 2 minutes because I knew which exact cutscene I needed and about how far in it was. I guess this conversation just echoes off like a fart because you're afraid to find out you're wrong in a no-stakes argument with an anonymous person.
But I'm literally correct, as you just found out. Which is why you aren't posting screencaps of those scenes. I'm just not interested in putting in any amount of work to try and prove something to someone who argues like a israelite and will come back next thread and pretend it never happened.
>you won't make my argument for me so I win
>and that also makes you a israelite for disagreeing with me
Okay, anon.
>you won't make my argument for me so I win
So you do admit that the scenes in question prove my argument? Thanks, Moshe.
>and that also makes you a israelite for disagreeing with me
You're a israelite because of the way you argue. It's obvious to those of us who have souls. Prime example is one of your previous posts where you said "OH YEAH CAN YOU SHOW ME A SCREENCAP OF HERMES SAYING THE EXACT PHRASE 'WHITE IS THE BASE COLOR'????" I'm just not going to devote any amount of energy to trying to prove something to someone who isn't interested in actually finding the truth, but who is only interested in pushing their personal interpretation of events and will gleefully lie and handwave and plug their ears and come back next thread posting the same tired shit again.
>Prime example is one of your previous posts where you said "OH YEAH CAN YOU SHOW ME A SCREENCAP OF HERMES SAYING THE EXACT PHRASE 'WHITE IS THE BASE COLOR'????"
Let's look at what you (yourself) said:
>Hermes literally has a whole scene where he mourns the fact that the flowers are always at their base white color and only ever respond to him.
I asked you to find that scene you said exists and you lost your marbles. You could have just not made that claim if you didn't want to prove it.
>I'm just not going to devote any amount of energy to trying to prove something to someone who isn't interested in actually finding the truth
You know, not everyone that responds to you is some boogeyman you've constructed, anon. I avoid FFXIV threads normally because of Barryposting and WoW/GW2 spam. This one remained on topic somehow so I decided to engage. If you're tired of arguing then just don't come into the threads and respond. More importantly, seeing your perspective as THE TRUTH that others need to wander toward to no longer be lost is gonna just make you bitter.
1/2 - Found this so far. Looking for mentions of yellow and others.
Yellow comes up in the scene with Nidhana.
3/2 - They're purple here while he's being an emo b***h
How much later is the Nidhana scene? Might help me find it easier.
>How much later is the Nidhana scene?
It's earlier, right after Tower of Zot, when she first tells you about dynamis under the name of akasa.
4/2
I don't have shots of the rest of her text in this scene, apparently. I do have another where it's green, interestingly enough, next post.
5/2 - Green flower as Graha eats his Hamburger
Green might be contentment? Feelings of friendship?
horny
The fact that it takes until then even for Sundered people is weird how it was being used as any metric for emotional capacity of people.
Especially when it's by detecting dynamis of a person, and Ancients are made of WAY more aether that cancels out dynamis. The fact they had any colors at all would be like lighting a hot enough flame on a match that it burns underwater.
>and Ancients are made of WAY more aether that cancels out dynamis.
It's only their bodies that are so dense that dynamis can't mesh. They still affect the ambient dynamis around them.
2/2
Thank you for your effort, anon.
Meant to quote
in this post
but thank you for posting things, anon.
>You vill wear ze robe
>You vill wear ze mask
>You vill not love your parents
>You vill not use your creation magics to make whatever you want
>You vill submit your creations for approval or you vill not be allowed to create them
>You vill wageslave for centuries
>You vill kill yourzelf when you are no longer useful to us
>And you VILL be happy
>Ancient life
>Wageslave by creating monsters
>Die
>Reincarnate as your coworker's pet monster that he abuses daily
Nice civilization, hades.
It's a society where people's emotions were literally supressed because some random schizo might have a bad day then go joker mode and create some world-ending monstrosity. They quite literally were not happy because they were not allowed to feel literally anything.
Also
>Nuclear family does not exist, everyone belongs to the collective society not their parents. Nobody actually loves their parents and only sees them as their birthers, as Elidibus says.
More than that, they're also hypocrites
>make a big deal about how emotions are fleeting and they try to ignore them and focus on logic
>despite this, CONSTANTLY see Ancients ape out and act purely on erratic emotion
>say that everything they do is for the good of the star
>despite this, entirely willing to sacrifice the innocent life of the star for their own good
>worse yet, they decided not to do anything when the apocalypse was destroying other people because it wasn't their problem yet
>claim that they would make a noble sacrifice that Sundered life wouldn't
>that sacrifice was primarily made to make an entity that would then be able to reverse the sacrifice at the expense of others, and the sacrifice was mandated by the government regardless of what others thought
>further, Sundered life not only made the same sacrifice in the Doomed timeline, they did it of their own volition, and did it not even to save themselves but to save another reality's version of themselves
>make a big deal about how all of the Ancients are benevolent, wise, and kind
>meet many, many Ancients that are murderous, heartless psychopaths that are worse than even the cruelest of Sundered life
Every single argument that's ever made regarding the supposed superiority of the Ancients is complete and utter cope that's dismantled with a second of thought. The only thing they were better at is creation magic.
There was never actually any argument made it was literally Emet just spouting shit. If you actually took him at his word and internalized any of it you're just dumb. Even in ShB it seemed more like cope than anything.
>If you actually took him at his word and internalized any of it you're just dumb.
Yeah, that's what I was pointing out. It was always cope with obvious holes in it from the start, but people took him at his word and ignored every bit of evidence to the contrary so that they could say Hydaelyn was evil and the Ascians were the good guys. All of the Ascian simps are just completely incapable of realizing that it's obviously bullshit and he's just coping.
Even having Emet straight-up look at the camera and address the player to say that the Ancients wouldn't have been able to succeed where Sundered life did wasn't enough to get it through to some people. Having an entire, drawn-out sequence showing Sundered life coming together to rise against hardship in a way that Ancients couldn't wasn't enough, either.
It's funny because Emet is also just spouting shit in your image but you take him at his word there because you agree with it
lol
Yeah I'm sure that the time he's making up bullshit is when he's a ghost that's fading away and finally, for once, has the full picture of everything that's happened.
Either way, you're defending shitty writing simply because they made a character say one line about how things totally couldn't have been done a different way and the plot had to go this exact direction. Completely ham-fisted but I guess that's all it takes to deflect criticism.
You're ignoring every other point that's been made to argue that somebody admitting that they were wrong and wouldn't have been able to do what you did is a plot contrivance. The main opposition to Venat saying "She was right" isn't ham-fisted, and the plot wasn't forced to go in this direction. It's reaffirming what you should have known: the Ascians were coping, mass-murdering psychopaths that were clearly in the wrong even if there was sympathy for their plight.
>coping, mass-murdering psychopaths that were clearly in the wrong
sounds like Venat tho
Can you please just make an honest argument?
>despite this, entirely willing to sacrifice the innocent life of the star for their own good
All life is not equal.
>decided not to do anything when the apocalypse was destroying other people because it wasn't their problem yet
If they'd jumped in to get involved you'd be criticizing them for being a globalist Big Brother.
>that would then be able to reverse the sacrifice
This wasn't decided upon in advance moron.
>the sacrifice was mandated by the government regardless of what others thought
Eric literally just opted out and left, "social cohesion is coercion!" is deranged thinking.
>Sundered life not only made the same sacrifice in the Doomed timeline
One tiny group in the form of the Ironworks decided to do it and had some tacit support elsewhere, but parts of their own group told them to frick off and left when the official mission statement of pressing the reset button on the whole universe was revealed, so not only is it not equivalent but you're also clearly someone who argues from the other side of his mouth that the ancients doing the sacrifice plan was evil and moronic to begin with, something you argue in the very previous line and which is also true of the Ironworks since they never asked for universal consent to potentially delete the entire fricking timeline.
>meet many, many Ancients that are murderous, heartless psychopaths that are worse than even the cruelest of Sundered life
They're no better or worse, that's literally the point of the fricking story but five minutes from now you'll also be arguing that they deserved to die because they're lesser and inferior and had to be excised to make a better race, which is exactly the thinking within they themselves that you say makes them heartless psychopaths.
This entire thread is full of this sort of reductionist, homierdly thinking. The only sane post in this den of seething and schizophrenia was
but of course it was ignored.
>All life is not equal.
If you're LARPing as stewards of the star, all life should be sacred and you shouldn't abuse innocent life to cope with your inability to actually handle loss.
>If they'd jumped in to get involved you'd be criticizing them for being a globalist Big Brother.
No, I wouldn't, because am overarching theme of the game is that refusing to help when you have ample ability to is cowardice, not wisdom. It's the entire problem with Sharlayan and it's the one thing Louisoix constantly espouses.
>This wasn't decided upon in advance moron.
It's suggested that they thought it would be a possibility, and it does effect the nobility of the sacrifice. If you try to reverse the noble thing you did so you no longer lost anything, you can't then talk about how great your sacrifice was.
>Eric literally just opted out and left, "social cohesion is coercion!" is deranged thinking.
No, he says he has to "defy" a "directive", which implies more than just social pressure, and the fact that he didn't just say "nah I don't feel like it."
>One tiny group in the form of the Ironworks decided to do it and had some tacit support elsewhere...
Read the short story where it shows loads of different factions contributing and offering their help, even as the world collapsed and burned down around them. It was a bunch of people without hope of survival contributing what they could to a dream of helping others, to the extent that it taught Omega what the meaning of hope was.
Another more obvious example is everybody coming together to help with the Ragnarok.
>bunch of strawman arguments where you put words in my mouth and make up shit I'm "going" to say before I say it
Eat a dick. The point I was making is that the Ancients are just as capable of being evil monsters as Sundered life, and they're not more noble or benevolent or pure. They didn't deserve to die, but they didn't deserve to kill other stuff to preserve their lives, which is what they kept trying.
Oh, wow. This image is new. Kudos on making a new meme image.
FANFEST IS IMMINANT
Wait
How many days away is it?
The 28th.
Its the 28th-29th
>fanfest
They're going to announce there's no content until expansion Autumn 2024 or what ? lol
are there actual stands to buy shit at FanFest, or is Yoshi Piss just going to force everyone into the conference booth and not announce the next expansion after 6 hours of talking
>is Yoshi Piss just going to force everyone into the conference booth and not announce the next expansion after 6 hours of talking
This sounds very realistic to me
I dont understand how anyone could hate her.
I can't impregnate her
As anon previously pointed, the haters are mainly homosexuals, trannies and wom!n, so it's understandable. They got shit taste in general.
Trancers hate Venat so much they even hate her dog, Argos.
What breed is her dog? Borzer or afghan hound?
Minfilia.
subhumans have an innate hatred for the White Man's Companion, the noble Dog
I just think it's weird she had her voice dress up like her dog.
I do think the dog looks pretty dumb.
SB and older boomers, how do you feel about the state of the game?
I've unironically spent over half of EW unsubbed. I think I will treat it as a visual novel from now on, sub 1 month before expac, play all the content and then leave for 2 years.
The only reason i'm still subbed is to jerk off and cuck shb zoomers from stealing my house
i been playing since 1.0 and i stopped being invested in the story somewhere in 2.x, just would resub for expansions and thats it, then I actually enjoyed ShB so much I have been subbed for the past few years but I didnt really like EW, I think post 6.0 is extremely terrible and I no longer have any hopes or enthusiasm for the game and I dont look forward to 7.0 at all.
Which are THE most /adventurecore/ jobs?
Warrior
Bard
Monk/Samurai
White Mage
Red Mage
red mage is reddit
so are all the other casters, cuz
People really wanted her to be the ultra big bad of the game because they created their own universes where she was the sole evil who caused everything bad to happen because she's a woman. When Square didn't cater to their fanfiction they lost their absolute shit.
isn't this the lady that genocided an entire people against their will and without their consent, but we're supposed to act like she's a hero?
Yeah, you can literally not say a single bad thing about her in the game and neither will the NPCs
You even get a choice to tell her something near the end of the game and the options are basically "wow you're so awesome!" and "sorry I didn't realize you were so awesome sooner"
The only hint of "maybe that wasn't a great idea" is the missable side quest with mini Omega and Alpha in post-EW
They decided to make some dumb cutscene set to Answers that dramatically summarizes the events rather than actually show them. We didn't even get to see her kick Zodiark into the Moon.
>dumb cutscene
What you're on about, it was one of the best cutscenes in this game.
>Oh my god they're playing Answers while they visualize her suffering by having her covered in blood!
>It's so emotional!
A good cutscene would have been the actual events like seeing Emet and Lahabrea surviving it, or her fighting Zodiark.
My wife(mother), Venat, is very cute.
>Tfw you do 50% of the party damage in a dungeon run
>look at what the BLM is doing
>Literally only casting fire and blizzard, alternating it
make it make sense
Here's a fun one from like a week ago or something that I shared with some friends
And the community will defend the shitters. Had a DRG auto attacking only in p7n and I called him out, had two people immedailty jump to his fricking defense.
>Check the aggro list
>One of the DPS is in dead last, behind the healer
>It's a RDM
EVERY
FRICKING
TIME
>Tfw you do the most damage of the party in a dungeon
>TFW you're the healer
I don't fricking understand how it's okay to get all the way to fricking Lapis Manalis and still be so fricking terrible at playing the game. Not just damage, but unable to do basic mechanics. At this point, I should just do roulettes as Warrior and essentially be a one man party.
The game does a shit job at teaching players anything and makes zero attempt to filter those who don't even do the absolute minimum. Its mind boggling that they had to implement difficulty options for the MSQ duties when they were already braindead as frick.
Final Fantasy XIV characters look like polystyrene dolls, game is boring, other than deep dungeons ( that people cheat to do because they suck ) and side content the game has nothing to offer, glorified chatroom that is not worth what it cost monthly.
cry more wowtroon
wow is worst.
>suicide is bad
It's only the dumb people who believe this. Suicide is a person's right and it'll be the norm soon enough.
You can always off yourself, sure. But you don't get to ask other people to off yourself because you're too much of a pussy to do it yourself.
>this is what leftists actually believe
I honestly can't wait for these things to become widespread so all you nihilist homosexuals can walk straight into the abyss.
Did you know that suicide was considered good in the past? Soldiers could choose to suicide on the battlefield and it would be an honor.
yeah butpeople killing themselves is bad for the economy ok
>be me
>I believe in assisted suicide and glad the law passed
>Present day
>All Doctors now: YOUR KNEE HURTS? HMM. I THINK YOU NEED SOME DEATH TO CURE WHAT AILS YA.
Canada fricking blows, man.
You were warned about this like 20 years ago and you didn't listen.
The ancients were communists
We've reached the point where all discussion just degenerates to "Your opinion = Political ideology I don't like".
Bro, we have no content since EW launch, what do you want us to discuss ?
Let's talk about me.
Why am I so handsome?
Brave?
Intelligent?
Cunning?
Persuasive?
Well endowed?
Witty?
Strong?
And above all, better at internet arguments?
>zodiark trancers vs hyadelyn trancers again
I thought we all accepted ew was shit
Why did Mihleel get a VA and a name in 6.0 if she wasn't going to be relevant afterwards?
She just showed up in the relic quest, and was in the latest MSQ too.
The waitress? I love her, would gladly procreate with in a heartbeat.
Why does this game drive Ganker cuh-razee?
YOU
MOD NAME
NOW
AND MAYBE A TOPLESS PIC TO GO WITH IT
Mod:
https://www.xivmodarchive.com/modid/71178
You will never be a man manbreasts
Yeah but this abomination is a female to male who posts her horrible gyno creations every xiv thread
have a nice day manbreasts.
that's a woman
That's a grotesque avatargayging attention prostitute who constantly spams this board, not even just XIV threads, with his disgusting gynecomastia fetish.
>his
>her
okay, which is it?
Of what I saw the 2 last years she is a ftm troony
Why are healers considered subs? Tanking is basically designed to appeal to masochists. Women who try it end up loving it.
I wish WAR wasn't a tank
I wish DRK wasn't a tank
I just want a STRchad DPS class
Really makes you think
If you tank, you're the hero, the main guy, the one mobs actually fight with.
If you're the healer, you're the bottom b***h hiding behind everybody and not even directly participating in the fight.
That’s not how it plays tho. It just you getting pinched and spanked by a big ugly monster, the whole your sweating bullets and thinking “oh I hope healer-sama notices I’m in trouble! Save me healer-senpai!”
You have obviously never played Warrior.
>Tanking is basically designed to appeal to masochists.
Yeah... guilty as charged. A bit of pain really does spice things up.
SHUT THE FRICK UP!!!!!!!!!!! NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ZEROMUS!!!!!!!!!!! TRANCE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>Venat saving anything
Ilberd saved the world, not her
FER ALAMHIGO
based
only villain in the game who actually won and got everything he wanted
The Ilberd thing is hilarious to me, because he does something pretty horrendous, but it literally set the wheels of change in motion for the better and everyone kinda pretends it didn't happen out of morals.
The dude really did believe in something and got it done and it was a just cause.
>and everyone kinda pretends it didn't happen out of morals.
Raubahn does have a scene reflecting on it, but that's before it turned out that Ilberd's actions somehow ended up being the root of SO MANY of the actions that ended up leading to the overall plot of the game.
>sacrificed a bunch of amoral monsters and apathetic homosexuals in order to save the world
Seems fine to me.
1 week until we see the basic part of the Opening, one or two of the new zones with no hints of where they really are, a hint of a new job, and maybe female Hrothgar.
Am I the only one who thinks Island Sanctuary is a horrible piece of content that doesn't actually add anything of value to the game?
The entire point of it is basically private housing, but not even truly that.
Then to play and be on top of it you need to use your sub and the whole foundation revolves around a weekly timed handicraft thing.
I'm not mad, but I think that if people get mad at that shit they'd be within their rights to despise the game for capping them so heavily for wanting to sink more time into it.
Clicking nodes over and over again and not even giving you a toggled run seems absolutely out of touch to me.
And the rare animals are a huge waste opportunity, too. The island is all in all extremely small and there are no real underwater areas, just two spots at the north west and south-east.
I feel like there's no justification for it. They just didn't care enough to put more budget into the game to make it something worthwhile.
It actually makes me want to unsub.
I was thinking about resubbing for the next update but I'm reconsidering at this point because It just doesn't feel worth it.
And before you go "Oh well just go play other games!" No shit moron yeah I'm already doing that, but If I get the itch to come back and play and the game fricking sucks and has no content to justify the sub-fee.
This shit feels like a F2P title right now.
They could have come up with something way better than this dogshit, is all I'm saying
I just want to be able to make my island sanctuary like this.
Well you can't. For all IS is worth, it's actually very restrictive and doesn't offer you enough freedom to really make it your own experience.
>Am I the only one who thinks Island Sanctuary is a horrible piece of content
Of course not
It's been what, almost a year since they released it and with the exception of the first week needed to set shit up, it's been nothing but setting up workshops 2-3 times a week (Could be once a week if you really don't care about optimal Cowrie returns) then fricking off and waiting for a timer. You can spend in total less than 10 minutes a week on the island and still get everything it has to offer and yet they spent way too much time making this.
I want to make new life with mommy Venat.
i liked the thread earlier, somehow a "post you're toon's lodestone" anchor kept the thread mostly civil
Nah, this thread is only fricked because OP started it by posting Venat and baiting an argument about her.
>time travel
If a future expansion ever sends us to Allag, I'll unsub.
- Teww me...fow whom do you fight?
- Hmph (・`ω´・) How vewy gwib. And do you bewieve in Eowzea?
- Eowzea's unyity is fowged of fawsehoods. Its city-states awe buiwt on deceit. And its faith is an instwument of deception.
- It is nyaught but a cobweb of wies. To bewieve in Eowzea is to bewieve in nyothing.
- In Eowzea, the beast twibes often summon gods to fight in theiw stead─though youw comwades onwy wawewy wespond in kind. Which is stwange, is it nyot?
- Awe the “Twewve” othewwise engaged? I was given to undewstand they wewe youw pwotectows. If you twuwy bewieve them youw guawdians, why do you nyot wepeat the twick that sewved you so weww at Cawtenyeau, and caww them down?
- They wiww answew─so wong as you wavish them with cwystaws and gowge them on aethew.
- Youw gods awe nyo diffewent fwom those of the beasts─eikons evewy onye. Accept but this, and you wiww see how Eowzea's faith is bweeding the wand dwy.
- Nyow is this unknyown to youw mastews. Which pwompts the question: why do they cwing to these fawse deities? What dwives even men of weawnying─even the gweat Wouisoix─to gwuvw at theiw feet?
- The answew? Youw mastews wack the stwength to do othewwise ;;w;;
- Fow the wowwd of man to mean anything, man must own the wowwd.
- To this end, he hath fought evew to waise himsewf thwough confwict─to gwow wich thwough conquest.
- And when the dust of battwe settwes, it is evew the stwong who dictate the fate of the weak.
- Knyowing this, but a singwe path is open to the impotent wuwew─that of fawse wowship. A path which weads to enyewvation and death.
- Onwy a man of powew can wightwy steew the couwse of civiwization. And in this wand of cweeping mendacity, that onye twuth wiww pwuv its sawvation.
- Come, champion of Eowzea, face me >w< Youw defeat shaww sewve as pwoof of my weadinyess to wuwe >w<
- It is onwy wight that I shouwd take youw weawm. Fow nyonye among you has the powew to stop me (・`ω´・)
Come home, white man
I'm not a troony.
Nothing white about gw2, just look at Braham
Honestly MMOs in general are shit right now.
I doubt Riot's MMO will be any good, either. League is such a fricking piece of shit game, and the balance in that makes me wonder if I should even hold my fricking breath.
Legends of Runeterra was also fricking abhorrently bad. Worthless card game that only buttholes would take seriously enough to competitively pursue. I had this one friend who tried to get me into it and he sank hundreds of dollars only to drop it a month later.
Typical moron who plays that game.
You're so desperate for players that you have to shill your game in a completely unrelated threads?
>wanting venat to be your mommy
cringe
>wanting athena to be your mommy
based
no one likes athena.
You can't fix her.
i don't want to fix her
i want her to break me
I want to make her worse
>face 5 midblander
Only cute as a monstergirl
My ancestor
If you could go back in time and kill Baby Venat to stop the Sundering, would you Ganker?
these people
When Venat wiped out the ancients, it was like she was wiping out MY people. I have autism and the Ancients were just like me FR FR
they act like Venat personally raped them
I wish she personally raped me.
Hey homosexual, I remember that thread and I'm a little curious, why'd you clip the post to avoid showing that it's almost a whole fricking year old? Could it be because you've been seething so hard with the cognitive dissonance of having your own ideology thrown back at you that it's stuck in your head that entire time?
Every time someone comes to pretend that Venat is some based trad mommy and the ancients were globalist commies, please remember that this is what all the Venatgays on the official forums look like.
What the frick is this post?
Cleretic, the troon in that pic, is someone from the official FF forums who had the audacity to btfo Zodiark Trancers in the lore subforum so badly that they tried doxxing him for it.
Trancers are also trannies themselves which makes it funnier
Cleretic is honorary based troony for causing Zodiark Troons to cope and seethe so hard they try to dox him.
Zodiark Trannies are not based, however.
Simple as
>this troony is based
The least obvious falseflag. Not even a Venatroony and I can recognize bad faith posting.
But they were commies
(S)he's cute unironically. I'm gonna go check out her channel now
>I remember that thread
Go back
>why'd you clip the post
I saved that picture from Ganker
>you've been seething so hard with the cognitive dissonance of having your own ideology thrown back at you
There's no dissonance. Venat was right and abortion is murder.
Morally it's wrong but the effect it would have in the future would be completely justified.
Venat is worse than anything else in the game, and the fact that she's portrayed as anything less than that speaks to how shit the writing is.
>Venat is worse than anything else in the game, and the fact that she's portrayed as anything less than that speaks to how shit the writing is.
>NOOOOO YOU CAN'T LET ONE OF THE FEW GOOD ANCIENTS LEAD THE WAY TO A FUTURE WHERE THE STAR LIVES ON NOOOO YOU HAVE TO LET THEM ALL KILL THEMSELVES LIKE THE moronS THEY ARE NOOOOOOOOO LIFE MOVING ON IS EEEEEEVIL
Venat did literally nothing wrong.
>tfw no merfolk race
>Obviously going to The First again next patch
If they don't finally use those fricking NPC's I swear to god.
If Venat was a man, would people be throwing these massive shitfits? Everything the character said and did being the exact same with no changes.
Of course not, look at Hermes
So, as usual, it's Gankerrgins ripping their dicks off in moron rage over a woman.
If Venat was a man and everything he said and did remained the same the story would have done the right thing and made others view him as someone that nobly sacrificed their reputation and legacy to do a necessary evil. They wouldn't have leaned into the coward "she's your mommy and protected you" vibes.
If Venat was physically ugly, would you simps still be supporting her actions?
Checkmate
Unironically she'd get a lot less support
The writers know people are shallow and that's why they made Zodiark look like an ugly demon thing
If Zodiark was cute I could fix her
I'm more sympathetic for Vauthry than Hades so I'd probably still like her, at least. Dunno about anybody else.
>I'm more sympathetic for Vauthry
I wonder what would cause a Ganker user to sympathize with Vauthry
Vauthry literally never had a choice. He was corrupted in the womb, and as a sin eater he's physically unable to do anything but try to spread indolence.
I'm a rail thin lanklet, so it's not relating to his appearance, but the reason is because he was purely a victim of Emet's bullshit and he never had a choice in the matter. There's a reason his true form is called Innocence.
If Venat was black would you guys still support her actions?
If Venat was black would she replace her alarm's battery?
Black personmommy!
>If Venat was a man, would people be throwing these massive shitfits?
Yep. HOWEVER if emet selch was a woman, no one would care. The whole issue was Emet was a sexy serial killer, and that is very appealing to mentally ill women. So they threw their lot in with him, and made an entire discord where they groomed androgynous confused zoomers ( no one born after 1995 has a fully formed biological sex ) into spamming this nonsense. If emet-selch was just a c**t, no one would care about the ancients.
emet was sexy to women because he's a pathetic and emotionally vulnerable old man with resting b***h face, not because he killed anyone.
tfw I'm an Alisaie enjoyer
>adult alisaie
Alisaie will NEVER grow up
DEAL WITH IT
can they let Alph grow up
Why do you people hate pedophiles?
don't you?
Why would I?
Mommy sex was just that good
>seventeen summers old
>AIslop
>trancecord wakes up
>thread hits bump limit at light speed as they raid it and post garbage no one cares about
what a garbage thread
90% of the posts are them replying to themselves like GPT-3 bots too
>1 (one) patch to tie up all void and zeromus loose ends AND set up the 7.0 story
How are they going to manage this
Badly.
There are two story patches left.
Two technically.
>6.50
Zeromus fight + "We should use Eden"
>6.55
We actually used Eden, everything is solved + someone going "Hey WoL I want to go to [NEW PLACE] want to come with me?"
>The New World/Other Continent
>Another Shard
>Some other bullshit (More Thirteenth)
Which is it going to be?
We're going to wrap up Zeromus, and either Merge or somehow "link" the First and Thirteenth to restore the cycle of life and death, then it's off to Meracydia with our new pair of Dragon friends, probably under the guise of trade agreements initially until the next big bad reveals itself.
Forced rejoining of the Thirteenth with the Source. Causes the Source to have twin Moons.
Also look at Hydaelyn's staff in this pic.
Not to mention, wasn't FF4: After Years all about moon cycles? Did it have twin moons? Being the "AFTER" years, it makes sense since we just had the FF4 expansion. But god fricking help us if the anything important is actually based on that garbage game.
FFIV had twin moons, with the red moon being the Lunarian spacecraft. It left at the end of the game and the thing that kicked off the story in After Years was that it was coming back.
>Dalamud becomes real
>Lambs of Dalamud chimp the frick out
Given our knowledge of how Calamities occurred in the Source, and Emet's explanation in ShB, the Aether from the shard flowed into the Source. Unlike normal elements, light and dark cancel each other out (stasis and constancy), and since it's going to another Shard and not the Source, they can bypass any potential Calamity bullshit, probably.
Not only will the mixing of Light from the First cause Death to be possible in the 13th, but Dark from the 13th will restore the flow of life to the Expanse in the First and both will slowly return to some kind of normal.
AAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH SHE SAID THE THING
>t. Casual that thinks BLU is the best class and rarely plays xpacs till after the BLU updates
What the frick is going on, are you guys literally being militant about some random lore errata.
Do you need a fricking shower? Go and shower now. Do some of your dishes and laundry. Maybe hug someone.
>they called them... the Westwolves...
KNOW YOU THE SOURCE OF THIS CORRUPTION?
WESTWOLVES
>"Hey there, brudda. I'm Keepa, goalie for the Whalaqee Westwolves."
The Westwolves shitposting is getting to me
I love it
I like the explanation of its magic so they aint gotta explain shit
Who is worse: Shazam Trannies or Zodiark Trannies? Both are proven discord Black folk who raid this website
t.
Anyone have a link to the original Ganker thread where the Shazam discord got exposed? Would've been amazing to read.
I'm more curious how anyone managed to infiltrate them in the first place. The Trancers linked their discord to the FF forums routinely. I've never seen the Shazamcord drop a link to their own server anywhere, let alone this website. I'm just amazed somebody managed to find out they have a discord AND infiltrate it.
Shazam was fun when it contained to Cyberpunk threads. It sucked the moment it left
looks like a man with breasts, as someone who doesnt know who that is or the game
>Sign in
>Check PF
>Tons of BLU groups with Healer/Tank slots only
>Sign out
BLU healer isn't that bad, seeing as you're just spamming Pom Cure, Gobskin, and White Wind when necessary. BLU tanking, on the other hand, is cancer.
I don't have any of it set up. Having to change your layout every encounter is cancer.
You can save sets and it saves your hotbar layout too.
You realize you can save up to 5 spell list/hotbar layouts, right?
Do you guys think there'd be less Venat/Zodiark sperging if the post-EW story wasn't so shit?
No
Oh, autosage.
Sage doesn't have auto's silly
Reminder that Zodiark Trancers are literal sodomites who have aids and will die soon
i want to eat her feces
I can't imagine caring about EW's shitty plot that much
my mommy saved me so i love her
Venat won