FFXIV

I really need to know something. Do you guys ever cheated to complete an ultimate or savage? I've been playing some wow and using DBM (because everyone use it there) and it felt kinda weird after not using anything on FFXIV all this time while raiding. Made me realize maybe everyone was wasting others time by not using addons to make everyones life easier.

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  1. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >playing the game where you get shamed over your lacking performance on people's third party dps meter
    asking for it

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >contrary to the game where you get harassed passive-aggressive
      All it's the same at the end.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      ?????????

      xiv gays are the most gaygiest bunch
      >if you wipe once
      they'll dip outta the party even if it's a learning party
      >if they make a mistake
      they'll blame other people and gaslight everyone

      very rarely will people ever call out on dps meters. they'll just dip.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        there's a few moments where I kicked a baddie out, and literally everyone else bailed. fricking xiv community is a bunch of ghosting c**ts. that's why i hate social anxiety b***hes

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          No one wants a dipshit leader that kicks someone out for making a mistake. I bet you fricking suck too.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      In my 10 years of playing that hasn’t happened to me yet.

  2. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    If your savage/ultimate group uses cheats and they don't care if you don't, don't sweat it

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      If they did I would report them to avoid being found out and branded a cheater myself. Noskillplebs belong in WoW, not my XIV.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        >If they did I would report them to avoid being found out
        lol good luck if they're not streaming that, you need substantive proof they're cheating and they have to deliver it themselves in-game or through a stream, japanese ultimate raiders didn't get caught with camera hacks until they streamed

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          >but there are more chances that a civilization that tasted misery
          There are equally a number of chances of Civilizations knowing misery and completely fricking it up trying to escape it.
          >Happiness is found when you contrast it with sadness
          Well that didnt really help the fish people who polluted their oceans

  3. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    I /personally/ never have, as I'm a PS4 (now PS5) player, but I wouldn't be surprised if at least one of my static members over the years used callouts minimum

  4. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >learning
    no
    >clearing/farming
    yeah, i mean you already learned the content. no point in not being as consistent as you possibly can and wipe the group.

    frick the morons that refuse it and keep you back. i fricking hate xiv

  5. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    nyagger

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Eyes as soulless as a d*nesfolk lalafell

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        you WILL marry the soulless doll lala

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          Plainsfolk >>>>>>>>> Dunies

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            ~~*dunesfolk*~~

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            Nymians > other lalafell

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              Enjoy having your dick rot and fall off if you try to put it in that diseased thing

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              tfw no black mage gf

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          Pyromancer sends his regards.

  6. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    When will the current Savage tier get unlocked for farming? Don't feel like putting up with lockouts to get gear for tertiary classes.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      I want to say it'll be 6.57/58? I can't remember exactly when Eden got unlocked to use for comparison

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        I was hoping this patch..on the 16th..

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          >I was hoping this patch..on the 16th..
          I doubt it friendo. For some weird reason the devs are not unlocking the raids even if a frickton of time has passed. Guess they really want to keep all the subs they can from the maxmingays.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      I want to say it'll be 6.57/58? I can't remember exactly when Eden got unlocked to use for comparison

      X.56 patch
      should be 2 weeks after .55

  7. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Bros...

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Kek nobody wants to play the shit ass Nier raids.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Are people even playing the game at this point? I doubt it.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        most players that stick around just rp/erp

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      I mean, this is pretty much the worst time to get into the game if you don't have a group of friends willing to do the raids together, because people are off playing their backlog so they aren't burned out in time for the new expansion.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      why the frick are they in party finder? just que up the duty roulette, people doing their dailies will fill it up

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Might be unable to do it at hours where people are normally on?

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          sounds like his problem then. OP is making it seem like the game is so dead that even normal alliance raids are having a hard time filling up.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            PF of 24 total hits is pretty dead.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Data center hoping was a fricking mistake.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      30 million players, troons and troonettes

  8. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Do you guys ever cheated to complete an ultimate or savage?
    HOLY ESL

  9. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    lost ark unironically did it better

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      post gifs of the class

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >exists for three years before going to complete shit

      Korean developers.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      its not fair, lost ark has better gameplay

  10. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    So... Any bets on how good/bad the final relics will be?

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      pretty good.

      i do wonder if they'll keep it as tomes or add a gargantuan light grind to it or something so people can power grind out rubicante normal like they want

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        >i do wonder if they'll keep it as tomes or add a gargantuan light grind to it or something so people can power grind out rubicante normal like they want
        Doubt. Just pay your 1.5k tomes and log off.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          good, i ain't in the mood for grinding primals this expac

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            >i ain't in the mood for grinding primals this expac
            i know, the expa was complete garbage. No one want to continue playing this shit.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            No one is, logging in already takes all my effort

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            I still have Barb, Golbez, and Zeromus left to do for their mounts

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              you don't do extremes for light. you do a premade on normals. and i think rubicante is the trial with the least amount of cutscene

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      I'm thinking they'll be killer, I love most of the Manderville and Majestic Manderville weapons.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Cant be worse than Eureka's final step

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Eureka final step is the easiest one. You just do a couple of BA runs.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          I mean in terms of looks

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            Oh yeah it looks bad. I mean if the game didn't have a realistic look they would be fine but they look too cartoonish. Like for a classic FF game.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          Nah mate he means the weapon models, most Eureka weapons are absolute fricking dog-water

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            They went for the amano look

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              The issue is they did the amano look badly
              like, the only good looking ones imo are RDM and WHM

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              Caladbolg and Moonward weapons are Amano, Eureka weapons are dog-water

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                What sword is that?
                Is that really a SAM weapon?
                Holy shit please what sword?!?!

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/playguide/db/item/9f314824913/

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                Moonward Samurai Blade, it's a sexy one. I think it's hunt marks now and not tomestones, check the shop NPC over at the hunt board in Sharlayan

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                thank you so much

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              The problem is not the designs but the implementation. The proportions and colors on all the weapons are way off, they look like someone's first Oblivion mod based on some amano drawings

  11. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    weird inkling

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      must be an inbred woomy

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      I just used it to reference splatoon (aka a cheat plugin)

  12. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    I personally don't use any kind of gameplay enhancing plugins AKA cheats when doing Ultimates.
    I don't even parse, but I do personally record my game play footage to review later.
    Never once felt I've needed to cheat because I always pick up mechanics super quickly and generally have my muscle memory perfected in just a few pulls.

    I don't endorse or support the use of any plugins, at most turning a blind eye to ACT users.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >I don't even parse
      So you're carried

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Am I cheating for using a plugin that stacks my HP and MP bar vertically instead of horizontally?

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        yes... cheater is anyone who is not playing default settings.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        obviously no but concern-trolling WoWtists are gonna say yes

  13. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Do you still remember them?

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      I am significantly less sympathetic to their plight after seeing their culture firsthand, but it's not like I can blame them for resenting the culture they were born into. I can however blame them for perpetuating it.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah the whole playing god with the whole planet thing was a bit messed up. But when you have such powers kinda hard to not do that.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          I mean, its not like humans play eugenics with animals and plants like they do, selecting what should and shouldn't be on the planet

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            Wee bit different from being able to summon up hell-beasts and introduce them to the world's ecology.

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              Yea, its not like china is cooking up some demon that quarantine half the world

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                That'll do, /misc/tard. That'll do.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                >tfw quarantine part 2 it's coming
                I hope this time it fricking kills me and everyone.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                And just like that, the /misc/gay's self-restraint snaps and brings up IRL politics.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                Never visited /misc/, just making an easy point. It is a fact what happened, not politics

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                Yes, yes, keep on goin lad. Regurgitate the diarrhea fed to you by FOX. I' sure it makes your life easier to deal with when you don't have to think, just listen to your master.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Lad
                >Muh FOX
                Covid objectively did come from China, what are you seething about?

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              To be fair, they do have literally an entire facility dedicated to testing creations to see how they will benefit the overall ecology of their environment, and a massive prison facility to house the shit that goes way off the deep end.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Frick this dialogue man. You can't make requests when you tried to kill me and everyone I love.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        As he himself said, he's immortal.
        If he wanted to really beat you all he had to do was wait until you died of natural causes, or plan another ardor on another star, or just take the nap that he was planning on taking once Solus "died".
        This point was reinforced in Elpis when he outlined how stupid he (in Shadowbringers) was being, because him in Elpis didn't realize that he was fricking tired and desperate for Venat to be proven right.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      The game makes it pretty hard to forget them when ancients are mentioned every 20 minutes.

  14. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    I just have ACT running in the background when doing savage/ultimate because logs are useful to find out what exactly cause a wipe, Don't even have the overlay up most of the time as it's distracting.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      I don't think you need a mod to see that person got hit by thing and died.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        It's more for situations when deaths happen without an obvious reason like somebody wasn't topped up enough or if a required mitigation was missed.

        There's a pluggin that tells you the death recap. You can use that if you're only using ACT to see that stuff.

        I would just do that but people also want logs posted because funny numbers

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      There's a pluggin that tells you the death recap. You can use that if you're only using ACT to see that stuff.

  15. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Using cheats in FFXIV is like an open secret at this point. I personally would feel humiliated because console players clear ultimates easily.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >easily
      >you spend 3 days a week for a whole month or straight up whole week if you hardcore
      Nothing is easily gained, anon. You trade your time for e-pen enlargement points.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        but i need to impress other sweaties on anonymous imageboards...

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      All it takes to win is 1 guy cheating for everyone else

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        This but unironically. At this point there's no difference between raid leader doing all the callouts and a fcking machine.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          there isn't any real difference anyways between relying on an ACT prompt and relying on a raid leader's callout

  16. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Krile won

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Lalas always win because se pander to them

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yes.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        I wanna know where she learned to do this shit from

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          Whereever it is it's Eorzean since a Pictomancer knows what conjurer/thaumaturge magic looks like and they know what a moogle looks like

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        lego b***h

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Krile fat

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Won what?

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Big WoL wiener

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        a positive pregnancy test

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        tight WoL snatch

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Nice reminder Krile is 22.

  17. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    woman job

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yes and there's nothing wrong with that considering the high degree of actual bioholes that play this game

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      krile looks so fricking weird in that trailer, and I thought dissidia ysthola was bad

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        really?
        I thought she looked perfectly fine

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          Lalas have round ass heads, she looks like a lego, the shape is completely wrong

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        What? She looks perfectly fine.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        really?
        I thought she looked perfectly fine

        What? She looks perfectly fine.

        It's the mouth. It does look a little weird with the CGI trailer.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      At least our women are biologically female.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Nah it's also for big furry homosexuals like Cole.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Women BAD
      You got something you wanna share with the class?

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      why does ff14 have women players but wow doesnt?

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Because unlike what westoids think women don't like looking at ugly b***hes
        >BG3 players were 95% males

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        cause worlo is ugly and the character customization is a joke

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >zepla
      >pic rel
      >sarah
      >*blushes*

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      who is bottom left cutie?

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      this one is a shotacon

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        qrd?

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous
          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            RUN ALPHINAUD, SHE'S AFTER YOUR CHASTITY

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              >alphinaud
              >chastity

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                Well he definitely hasn't had any since he graduated.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                have you seen the boy's crotch, it's either chastity or an acorn down there

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                He's a grower not a shower.

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              >Chastity
              Didn't Alisaie say in a cutscene that he was drowning in pussy during their school years?

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                She said he was popular, not that he was outright slaying puss. Alisaie herself has a couple of instances of girls fawning over her too.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Alisaie herself has a couple of instances of girls fawning over her too.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                >butch girl that's straight as an arrow and fawns over you
                need
                NEED

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                what if your WoL is a girl

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                then you get alphinaud, a twinky brat with a horse-wiener

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                gay, my femWoL is for 7 foot garlean gigachads only

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                get a male roe and make him wear the great lengths hairstyle

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Alisaie herself has a couple of instances of girls fawning over her too.

                It actually adds to the irony that after getting out of the Studium, Alisaie has won more admirers than Alphinaud, but they're all women too.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah, Alphinaud was a Chad on campus, they still talk about him if you talk to NPC's on the studium. Hell, he got pretty much mobbed when he arrived home.

                Meanwhile Alisaie was a shy nerd with NO FRIENDS.

                lolol

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            >men attracted to little girls: creepy, gross pedos
            >women attracted to little boys: uwu shotacons >.<
            I don't get it

            He's 17. Perchance.

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              anon you can't just say perchance

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                perchance

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                he's right thoughbeit

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        then she is the only one I like

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          totalbicuits' wife is playing through HW. I think she's a shotacon as well
          too early to tell

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            the fornite shiling begins to make sense

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            the fornite shiling begins to make sense

            >her first act upon TB's death was to use his name in an attempt to secure a Fortnite sponsorship
            And people wonder why I can't stand the c**t.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            [...]
            >her first act upon TB's death was to use his name in an attempt to secure a Fortnite sponsorship
            And people wonder why I can't stand the c**t.

            Based.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Honoroit look out, my boy

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      are xiv threads on v all female posters?

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        women don't obsess over transsexuals anywhere near as much as Ganker does

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      So many females holy shit

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        This isn't surprising if you actually play the game. Don't let Ganker's constant troony srhieking fool you this game is fricking FULL of actual women. They're probably not very attractive mind you, but they're there.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          XIV has always had a larger female (real) population, most of them are all over 30 though.

          >game is full of 30 year old hags
          O-oh my...

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            its actually 40 year old married hags
            Theyre nice but theyre still hags

            XIV has always had a larger female (real) population, most of them are all over 30 though.

            Whos the girl with the pig tails and the aura in the back

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              Pigtails is Julyan who's Hildibrands mum, the Women in the back isn't an Au Ra that's Athena.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                Sexo

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        XIV has always had a larger female (real) population, most of them are all over 30 though.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          I wish Ameliance had a twin sister so I wouldn't feel bad about cucking Fourchenault.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            Fourchan gets off on it, he's a thinker

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            >implying Fourchenault isn't a NTSchad

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        yeah they're the reason they had to add an easy mode to solo instances

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      just pick viper and reaper

  18. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >VPR is selfish scouting dps making it pointless because it won't outdo SAM or even come in second for melees
    >PIC is already the best caster by not having a rez tax and providing buffs while doing less damage than BLM but way more than SMN and RDM
    Who is ready for another expansion full of potency buffs every 2 months until all new content is a joke and jobs don't even resemble the way they were when raids were tested by staff?

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      I have no interest in VPR anyways. I hate the hack-and-slash lazy as frick zip-zoop teleporting animation shtick. If I want a god damn dual-wielding sword class I want to see some weight and impact god damnit. Fricking shitty Japanese anime trope shit. Frick.
      Glad to have a new caster I might actually want to play besides BLM now. Although I have a feeling it'll be braindead like RPR or something.

  19. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    cheating is essential for endgame ffxiv raids.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      you'll notice that everything that actually tries to manipulate serverside values is off or set to a default value, anon-kun
      i wonder why that is.............................

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      what is this

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        what the pro raiders use to sell raid carries to noob whales for easy paypal money.

        you'll notice that everything that actually tries to manipulate serverside values is off or set to a default value, anon-kun
        i wonder why that is.............................

        the game is so broken and gms dont care unless you get "Ganker raided" on the reports.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          >the game is so broken and gms dont care unless
          lol you are totally clueless on this game's ban process
          play the game instead of going entirely off secondhand Ganker posts

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            >the game is so broken and gms dont care unless you get "Ganker raided" on the reports.
            I don't think you actually know what you're looking at with the screenshot you posted

            moronic jits don't know shit about the carry process.

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              I'm confused, are you railing on the guy who posted a bunch of irrelevant horseshit in a cheat tool with all the server-impacting things turned off, or are you railing on the two calling him an idiot?

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                Probably the dumb jeet that posted the screenshot. Reminder these gays don't even play the game half the time.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          >the game is so broken and gms dont care unless you get "Ganker raided" on the reports.
          I don't think you actually know what you're looking at with the screenshot you posted

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      This really shows why MMOs are a garbage genre.

      The arms-race between the devs and their player base will always lead to this miserable kind of design philosophy, especially for modern raids.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        >The arms-race between the devs and their player base
        I don't think this even really bears mentioning but this game is not WoW and the developers largely ignore the players outside of general impressions, "arms race" so far has only come in the form of removing a couple features due to raider abuse, one of which was the ability to reorient waymarks mid-fight

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      The biggest trannies are always rdm, and always the worst players.

  20. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Cleared ultimates with plenty of controller players, some controller players are 100% parsers. If you are cheating at this game you are fricking trash, only plugins required are void to block the homosexual glams.

  21. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    I cheated for my housing plot, paid $1 for some auto clicker demo to constantly spam buy before it was a lottery system. Ward 1 supremecy.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      you and everyone else was doing that, so was it really cheating. it's like steroids in pro sports, everyone's fricking doing it.

  22. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Are the people who want an alternate msq starting point moronic?
    We already can't acknowledge pretty much all side content in the main story and you want literally the entire story that's been built up to be thrown away so you do a dungeon faster?
    At that point you might as well just get rid of the plot all together since they would have to write to accomodate people who never played the previous msq.
    It's so stupid

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      as much as i agree with you, the way that 6.x is structured and how the scions appear in it along with the in game lore book, i'm afraid this might be them setting a foundation for it. which sucks you know

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      I think it's smart in the sense that there really is a metric frickton you need to go through to get to current, and it bespeaks them not wanting *at all* to actually crunch older content or otherwise shorten the existing MSQ to reach endgame. A different starting point with the mentioned heavy encouragement to start from scratch so you're not lost seems a good compromise to me. Like the whole point is they're not actually going to write or rewrite anything to accommodate people that skipped it all, they'll be just as lost as they would have been if they bought a job/story skip and played Endwalker now.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        That's not smart or a compromise.
        The compromise is buying a story skip. Paying money to have the game played for you, rather than taking the time to play through and familiarize yourself with the game's systems and structure, and story if you care about it.

        Letting people just jump to endgame or closer to it just multiples the amount of people who act like that Quinn homosexual, who just paid his way to endgame, got his shit rocked in raiding because he had 0 idea what was going on, and then just quit while ranting about how 'shit' the game was.

        As much as the draconian reporting system plays a part in it, another big reason why a large chunk of the community is so dedicated to the game is because they all went through the same shit and put in the time to build up from nothing. The jokes of 'the great filter' actually hold some truth to them. Hell, even Ganker espoused the merits of it before wowgays started feeling threatened and shitposting every thread to death. People are there because they enjoyed the ride and want to stick around for what's next.

        Focusing on just getting people to the finish line and gear treadmill as quick as possible is why WoW became a garbage game that actively shits on the feedback the community provides while putting all their effort into keeping people pumping their engagement numbers as much as possible to look good in quarterly reports.

        The game isn't perfect by any means, but the MSQ grind is not one of those problems and your proposed solution ain't it, chief.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          >The compromise is buying a story skip.
          Dawntrail as a new starting point is identical to getting a story skip for free and choosing to use it or not use it

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Dawntrail as a new starting point is identical to getting a story skip for free and choosing to use it or not use it

            In what manner?

            The story arc is complete, but the characters (including yourself as the MC) that the overall story focuses on are still the same as those that went through ARR-EW.
            It's not going to be a 1.0-ARR transition where everyone just magically forgets who you are so you can fresh start as a nobody and work your way back to your status as literal savior of the world.

            That's like telling someone getting into a long running TV series "Oh you can just start at season 4 since it's the start of a new arc and that way you can catch up faster."

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              >movie analogy

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                >non-argument

                "In what manner" what the frick kinda question is this, in the You Skip All The Way Up To Beginning Of Current Expac manner numbnuts

                It's the kind of question that asks you to reflect and further extrapolate on the statement that you've made.

                Since you've chosen to get buttflustered that I find your logic faulty instead of answering it, I'll assume the discussion is over.

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              "In what manner" what the frick kinda question is this, in the You Skip All The Way Up To Beginning Of Current Expac manner numbnuts

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Nah, ARR is LITERALLY A FILTER at this point. I barely made it to Heavensward my first time playing XIV. I told myself to read absolutely everything and by the time I made it to HW, I never wanted to read ever again in my life.
      Just when you think its over, it just keeps going, going, going, going, going, going, going, going.
      And in a game ALL ABOUT READING, that's pretty bad.
      ARR at the least needs a heavy nerf.

  23. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    I wish Viera were real.

  24. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    lalaholes

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      always ready and always willing

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Are canonically stretchy.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        And smelly

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        That makes me want to inflate them.

  25. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    I wish the final days would happen irl

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      just saw a middie holding holds with an elezen
      Eorzea has fallen

  26. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >finally join static for UCoB after pugging savage for a while
    >troony in group
    >unironic white nationalist in group who sent me some Mein Kampf pdf the first week I was raiding with them (I'm a spic)
    >schizo body builder who streams himself playing rhythm games during break and randomly breaks into alex jones impressions and is still hung up on Covid being a hoax
    I thought this game was full of trannies like Ganker said, but it's actually just full of fricking crazy people. There's a gay furry in the group too, but after getting to know everyone else a little better I look at the furry and think "oh thank god that's all that's wrong with you". And the most disgusting part of all of this is that I'm pretty sure the troony and white nationalist know each other IRL and may be fricking.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      When you join a WN movement you get a complimentary trans or asian GF, you didn't know?

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Oh yeah no the fact that Ganker is b***hing about trannies everywhere in it should clue you in that these people are all just fricking crazy too.
      >I'm pretty sure the troony and white nationalist know each other IRL and may be fricking.
      The number of chasers that spend all day b***hing about trannies, or don't know what they're feeling when they look at an Adam's apple and lipstick together and manifest it as blind vitriol, is not 0, trusted endeavor

  27. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    I cleared all 5 ultimates without anything other than ACT to see damage parses. No sims, no cactbot, no automarkers, nothing.
    People needing the fricking clutch, or even REQUIRING to trivialize a fight is a homosexual.
    Case in point: All the LPDU homosexuals using AM for TOP P5 trios as if you're unable to solve them with quick thinking or a single callout.

    >inb5 using voice comms is using a 3rd party tool by proxy ergo cheating

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >inb5 using voice comms is using a 3rd party tool by proxy ergo cheating
      It literally is, XIV does not include voice chat therefore using any voip is the same as cactbot or noclippy.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Don't forget, these are the clowns you play this game with.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          Thankfully I'm not on Mana so I don't have ro worry about playing with YoshiP or Foxclon.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        You have to be moronic to not understand the point he was making about semantics. Something like a DPS meter is ultimately just speeding up something you could do manually. You could dissect combat logs manually and calculate DPS. So in the end that is very low in their priority of caring about third party tools compared to things that actually give you an unfair advantage. And it's an entirely different point altogether anyway. A voice chat program running separately on your computer is not a third party program, just like it wouldn't be a third party program to have a guide on your second screen to look over at.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >comms are not cheating
      Except they are.

  28. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    I NEED to play VIPER right NOW

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      But you posted NIN.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        I miss Kasaru bros

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          He's simply too pure for this world.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          Job quests are DEAD

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          He's simply too pure for this world.

          I'm gonna be honest he's the only reason I gave a shit about the NIN job quest.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          Why is he so fricking based?
          What's the hero's secret?
          How can the little sparrow reach his heights?

  29. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >daily reminder that Kate is trying to make the rabbits gay
    Will (You) let her get away with it Ganker ?

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Daily reminder that you have yet to provide proof to your claims.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        he's referring to the EE3 page on loporrits that says they're genderless and sexless but they call themselves male or female because it's a human thing and they like that, so literally the same thing as for the dragons except they don't even reproduce at all

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          Is that in the Japanese version, though? That's the question here.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            book is specified as being written by all the japanese staff so i would assume so, this is kinda like complaining about the dragons being sexless and choosing a gender too when that's how they've worked since heavensward

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              >assume
              You know what they say about assuming, Anon.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                i do know assuming it wasn't the japanese staff that wrote the book when they're credited as such because you want to be mad about the woke menace makes an ass out of u and me, yes

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                I've made 2 posts in this thread and in neither of them have I implied that, dude. I was just asking a question and then making an observation. There's no need to blow up at me like that.

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              Do you think if Blizzard had made dragons sexless people would be less up in arms about Chromie?

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                nobody and i mean literally nobody other than twitter trannies gives a frick about retail wow.

                only version of wow worth playing is classic, ff14 or eso if u want a " modern " mmo.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                i don't think that would help the cognitive dissonance WoW's few remaining fans have for all post-activision lore, no, i think there would still be a lot of smooth chinned /misc/tards getting up in arms about chromie but the difference would be gleefully looking the other way on dragons, and blizzard would probably have avoided all the hullabaloo around the literal straight-up fabric of time revolving around a dragon female getting raped for a very long time to be a broodmother and your character perpetuating it

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                Okay people will call me a troony or homosexual or leftist, but the problem with Chromie isn't the troony shit it's how much blizzard/western devs fricking WORSHIP and make a spectacle of how revolutionary/brave/innovative/strong it is not in relation to the character.
                People shit on him but take Dion for example, dude is a badass and probably one of the better written characters from XVI, gay shit aside. Same thing with ladiva, those characters just don't annoy me nearly as much as shit like Chromie.
                Hell even if I think it's schizo shit I would say Giott is way better/more subtly done if you want to imply a character is a troony.

                There's also that side character gay lala with the gay roe from idlyshire, or the gay lala who dreams of being raubahns onahole. All of these things just feel like a "eh" compared to stuff like Chromie.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                speaking of dion i think part of the obsession and revulsion with dion is that he's a 10/10 upstanding dude and the paragon of light as bahamut's avatar

                but also he sucks wiener like a champion, and the mythological system in XVI doesn't revile dion for it the way the slack-jawed Ganker poster watching him kiss another man does, since, you know, he's the avatar of bahamut. so their brain breaks

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                Dion is just a good character, flawed and petty when he needs to be, unsure and also kind of a dickhead but has the in lore reason for it and is genuinely a good person who cares for his father and kingdom.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Didn't I ?

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Obsessed jeet.

  30. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    I want to play Pictomancer
    There are now 4 casters, pretty kewl variety

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      I'm glad we got PCT and not GRN, three fricking color mages would've been obnoxious as frick.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Now you have an all-color mage.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      reminder that summoner loses its res next expansion so "rez tax" will cease to be a thing and red mage will be much more valuable for prog

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Source?
        >I made it the frick up!

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          august 2nd (i think, early august) live letter

          summoner's rez was specifically mentioned as being left in endwalker as a "security blanket" because of the severity of the rest of its rework but it's going to go away in dawntrail

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        RDM should lose the rez and gain an aoe heal oGCD, and another party mit of some sort. Only healers should have ability to rez.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          >only healers should
          no stop homogenizing classes.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            Lol

            Nah m8 RDM being able to rez, and not only rez but chain-rez and be more capable of doing so than the actual healers, makes it stand out in a good way. It'll be all the more valuable when RDM is the only DPS that can do so

            Chain rez doesn't matter in endgame content anymore. Usually if two people are down you don't even get to prog because of mechanics that require full 8.
            >die during lightning/fire
            RNG that could wipe the group
            >die during martialist
            Not enough people in stacks plus heavy aie after
            >die during levinstrike
            Wipe
            >die during meteors
            Wipe
            >due during martialist 2
            RNG usually leads to wipe and makes levinstrike 2 much harder
            >die during levinstrike 2
            Recoverable of its one person dies but could still cause trouble if they don't reach their partner or spread spot quick enough for the soft enrage.

            And that's just the first boss of current raid tier.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          Nah m8 RDM being able to rez, and not only rez but chain-rez and be more capable of doing so than the actual healers, makes it stand out in a good way. It'll be all the more valuable when RDM is the only DPS that can do so

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          Caster DPS raise should be a role ability with a five minute cooldown.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            Tick tock, Summoner, your time is limited.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            Paladin and Bard should have an instant, 3min cooldown Raise

  31. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Post your glams for the new jobs!

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      ugly glam

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        suits the ugly character

  32. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Do you like Highlanders?

  33. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    experiencing the new xpac would be a lot more sovlful with autist bro.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Zenos didn't breed my moronic moonie when he had the chance
      biggest disappointment of EW for me

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Zenos didn't permanently break my au ra's horn off when he punched her in the face

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        >A TEST OF YOUR REFLEXES
        >baby kicks

  34. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    where can you get pre ShB artifact sets, aside from the class quest

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Calamity salvager for ARR and SB sets

      Heavensward's sets were tomestone gear, so if you didn't keep the MSQ freebie, you'll have to grind out hunt marks and buy them again, or grind up wolf marks and buy the Virtu version

  35. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Lalafell Tummymancers

  36. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Made me realize maybe everyone was wasting others time by not using addons to make everyones life easier
    raiders truly have a mental disorder. Why do you even play video games?

  37. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    RDM should be the only job with a heal.

  38. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Not playing your troony,gay, infested game

  39. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why yes I did clear all ultimates using splatoon and cactbot.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      what is splatoon? other than the switch game

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Plugin that draws invisible AOEs on the ground and such.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        https://github.com/PunishXIV/Splatoon
        clientside waymark tool

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Plugin that shows all upcoming aoes in realtime

  40. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    sex with Nashmeira

  41. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Wrong thread, Miyeon-anon.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      I... think he's posting in every thread
      I'm also reading a MHW thread and someone posted a kpop webm there too, 4 minutes before this one

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        spam-bot of some kind ye

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      I... think he's posting in every thread
      I'm also reading a MHW thread and someone posted a kpop webm there too, 4 minutes before this one

      he's probably sinking threads that he doesn't like in the catalog by bumping others

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        it's not actually easy to slide a thread considering any post at all will bump it straight up to the top

  42. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Thoughts on the new raid weapons?

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      full-on phantasy star aesthetic will be really cool
      also where are these coming from

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >2016
      old concept art, but i could see them using this design style for new raids

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      full-on phantasy star aesthetic will be really cool
      also where are these coming from

      Probably concept art for the Phantasy Star crossover that we never ended up getting.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >2016
      damn they been planning dawntrail for a while then!
      their internal concept art team must be working on 12.0 by now!

  43. 4 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >MechineWep

      >Cakram
      Ok buddy, maybe you fooled everybody at the favela but you're gonna have to try a little harder here

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        >noooo it's impossible that a japanese developer could have engrish spelling errors nooooo you faked it you faked detailed drawings of weapons from multiple angles

  44. 4 months ago
    Anonymous
  45. 4 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Likely scrapped Nier weapons

  46. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    wait a minute that keyboard
    should we be seeing this

  47. 4 months ago
    Anonymous
  48. 4 months ago
    Anonymous
  49. 4 months ago
    Anonymous
  50. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Ranaa is so hot bros how come she never gets any love

  51. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    R8 my pl8

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      bitch

  52. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >men attracted to little girls: creepy, gross pedos
    >women attracted to little boys: uwu shotacons >.<
    I don't get it

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous
  53. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    why is squeenix doing this to my dick

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      oohh flat as a board ass ooohhhh

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        t. Black person

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          >has to resort to edits to cope
          lmao. stop liking little chinese boys

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            oh it's this pedo who is obsessed with chinese boys

            every
            fricking
            thread

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      They know exactly what they're doing.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      This is why, despite how often this game still falls back onto Fujo pandering, I still have hope.

      >Redditors pull their hair out denying that Alisaie is presented as a love interest for the WoL
      >Meanwhile, SE showcases her with a low angle shot of her ass swaying for the camera
      >Westoid morons flip out if you draw Y'shtola in a sexy outfit, or sultry look
      >Meanwhile in game, the camera is more than happy to ride up her legs, or hug her ass
      >Americans strangling themselves on their pearls cannot even deal with Ryne being sexualised unless it's by the significantly older Gaia (it's okay if they're women)
      >Meanwhile, Eden has a fight all about Ryne getting undressed

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        there's also this https://files.catbox.moe/2sevou.mp4

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          Alisaiechads won.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            Alisaie belongs to the WoL. Race or gender? Doesn't matter. Your own personal preference? Irrelevant. Alisaie will win.

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              But my WoL is a femra.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                Made for Alisaie anon. I don't make the rules.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            Based

            Alisaie belongs to the WoL. Race or gender? Doesn't matter. Your own personal preference? Irrelevant. Alisaie will win.

            Based

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous
        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          Based

          hrothgays and hrothgals look like fricking shit

          why did they base a race off the worst party member in FF history
          what would you replace that shitty race with

          The problem with Hroth, and why they're visual pollution, is that they wanted to add a monster race in, since until then every race was just humanoid or kemonomimi... but they chickened out, so they added a clearly humanoid, man-lion shitfest that's neither a monster or sexy, and which wound up appealing only to fricking furry baragays.

          At least with Hrothgirls they've learned their lesson and are appealing to straight up """""""""""""""""""normal""""""""""""""""""" furries, so I imagine Hrothgirls will be popular in the same way characters like Loona or Lola Bunny are.

          But they're still visual pollution, because it looks absolutely ridiculous to have Miq'ote and Hrothgar in the same game. One's humanoid with cat ears and tail, the other's a weird human-lion hybrid.

          In short: Delete Hroth and replace either with another sexy humanoid race, or a proper monster race. My vote would be Voidgirls for sexy, or Bangaa for monster.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        If SE listened to westoids every female race would be 7 f tall and as masculine as femroes, it's always best to ignore them

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          >every female race would be 7 f tall and as masculine as femroes
          Oh no!?

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            I don't mind femroes existing, but that's all you homosexuals want, 0 diversity
            >why aren't female xaelas as tall as the males buuhuuu sexual dimorphism is le bad
            Black folk can't appreciate stronger shorter girls

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            It might come as shock but the majority of people do not find mannish women attractive and prefer more feminine features.

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              The vast majority of races in this game appeal to your sensibilities, quit being a Christian fundie and complaining when the norm is stepped outside of

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                And now you have a couple for yours so there really is no issue. I think we can all agree that one furry race is enough though.

  54. 4 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous
  55. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >graha for the wymin
    >alisaie for the min
    Can I have a waifu that isn't an insufferable cringe simp

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous
      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Or a lalashit, those are the worst
        When the frick is Hilda coming back?

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      You had Y'shtola, but you're not allowed to like Y'shtola or the Runargays get uppity.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        The existence of Runargays make me desire 'shtola all the more.
        Let them cry as I take their ship and frick every porthole into a cumdrunk catgirl mess.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Ysthola was hotter brown, they ruined her

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Runargays just sound like fundamentalist muslims to me.
        >No dude, you don't get it, I know Y'shtola has plans for the future where she explores the universe. I know she has a brilliant career of research and discoveries that make people's lifes better. I know she loves her life as a Scion. I know if she had stayed behind she'd have died shortly after. I know if she does stay after she'll still lose everyone else in her life as the shard time disparity makes everyone in the other shard age. I know staying with the Night's Blessed all that awaits her is a life of religious hermitage in a dark forest for a religion she doesn't believe in.
        >But don't you get it? He offered her a FLOWER. She's not human anymore, she doesn't get to have an opinion, she owes him sex and marriage. No, it doesn't matter that she rejected it, didn't you hear? She's not human. She's a possession.
        >And if we ever catch her teasing WoL in a cutscene ever again, I'll get my whole shipping community website and we will stone her to death and declare jihad on all Y'shtolagays who ever dared press the flirty option.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          Frick man. You actually summed that up better than I've ever been able to.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          she's not human though

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            All races in the game are called humans, that's why the "standard human" race is called hyur/hume instead.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          This is some intense schizo headcanon but no, the argument is that Y'shtola winked at him and is clearly fond of him to the point she wants to bridge dimensions so she can go see him again. Not sure where you got all this nonsense about the flower and her owing him anything.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            Going "she winked at him, clearly it's gonna happen" doesn't make you sound less like a fundamentalist. Specially when we've had cases like Krile winking at Unukalhai or Alisaie winking at Ga Bu, or hell Y'shtola winking at WoL too and doing far more intimate shit, yet you guys just ignore those as meaningless but put this one as somehow the all-important gesture that defines her more than the other 300 hours of her cutscenes.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      y'shtola, krile, zero if you like autistic girls, yugiri if you like long distance relationships

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        they made very clear that zero is for youthful garlean buuz only

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          julius's feeder fetish pushed zero into the arms of radz-at-han curry houses

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          cope Jullus Zero is riding that Golbez wiener

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Y'shtola is what you need.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        sorry the moron eyes are a total boner killer

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          >moron eyes
          Anon shes blind.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            yeah and fricking cripples is, like, statutory rape

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      There's a fricking laundry list of girls that're into the WoL, from Alisaie, to Y'shtola, to Kurenai, to Kan-E, to Yugiri, to Adalberta, to Lilja, etcetcetc

      Runargays just sound like fundamentalist muslims to me.
      >No dude, you don't get it, I know Y'shtola has plans for the future where she explores the universe. I know she has a brilliant career of research and discoveries that make people's lifes better. I know she loves her life as a Scion. I know if she had stayed behind she'd have died shortly after. I know if she does stay after she'll still lose everyone else in her life as the shard time disparity makes everyone in the other shard age. I know staying with the Night's Blessed all that awaits her is a life of religious hermitage in a dark forest for a religion she doesn't believe in.
      >But don't you get it? He offered her a FLOWER. She's not human anymore, she doesn't get to have an opinion, she owes him sex and marriage. No, it doesn't matter that she rejected it, didn't you hear? She's not human. She's a possession.
      >And if we ever catch her teasing WoL in a cutscene ever again, I'll get my whole shipping community website and we will stone her to death and declare jihad on all Y'shtolagays who ever dared press the flirty option.

      You had Y'shtola, but you're not allowed to like Y'shtola or the Runargays get uppity.

      Here's my thing, here's my thing. People get fricking uppity about Runar, and it's only gotten slightly better since ShB, but the biggest thing is how insufferable it's been when people try make it out as cringe to even like Y'shtola.

      And, I don't. I don't give a shit about Y'shtola. But I constantly see people trying to shame, or demean Y'shtolagays because you're *meant* to ship her with Runar. Or, on Twitter/Reddit, you're meant to agree to a 3P WoL/Y'shtola/Runar, because that's progressive and awesome.

      But just imagine the shoe on the other foot. Imagine a new female NPC came along, out of nowhere, with zero setup and zero connection to either the plot or to any character... but she's G'raha's childhood friend, and she's definitely in love with him, and he's extremely fond of her (as a friend... but maaaaaybe!) and her gimmick is that she just throws herself on him and cling to him, as he stammers and goes "Ah, hey! Hey!"

      Now imagine she's important to the plot in some minor way that keeps her around, so you've got multiple cutscenes that have the WoL standing back with their thumb up their ass doing nothing as this chick clings to G'raha, laughing and giggling, as he stammers awkwardly (but not rejecting it).

      And now, G'raha's whole and primary motivation is to help her out with whatever big overarching issue she's got that's too massive to be solved through the plot as is, then he and her are going to go on an adventure. It's not *nescessarily* romantic. You can definitely still ship yourself with G'raha. But his big thing is that he's gonna go on an adventure, just with her. Just as friends, maybe.

      Imagine that shit, and imagine the backlash that would get. That's the garbage that Y'shtolagays had shoved down their throat.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        >There's a fricking laundry list of girls that're into the WoL, from Alisaie, to Y'shtola, to Kurenai, to Kan-E, to Yugiri, to Adalberta, to Lilja, etcetcetc
        All of them benched, sidelined and never to be heard from again.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          I agree that this is an issue.

          >There's a fricking laundry list of girls that're into the WoL
          Two points:
          One, when's the last time we actually got any of that content?
          Two, how many of them are still important/relevant characters?

          Like take these two points together. We didn't get a new girl who was interested in/liked the WoL romantically in EW at all, and of the girls who already did like him, they either don't act like it in EW (Y'shtola, Alisaeie) or don't show up in the expansion.

          Venat, possibly Zero with that big hero moment duty. Although she seemed far more pushed with Jullus.

          And I dunno, I felt like Alisaie got plenty of good moments through the MSQ, and Y'shtola wasn't bad. The scene where Alisaie came to my room and she's fretting outside the door, too nervous to even knock was adorable. I do wish SE hadn't chickened out and had let me invite her in, but hey.

          (I also wish there were more options, Yugiri paying a visit to Sharlyan as envoy and being there that night for example...)

          The only reason Runar/Y'shtolagays existed is because Y'shtola is the basic b***h straight guy waifu. She's the promotional waifu for the average heterosexual guy playing XIV. Now why would a group of people mostly from twitter and reddit object to that and try very, very hard to push for another male NPC to get in between it?
          Just look at how they briefly dissipated from the discourse altogether during 6.2 when Zero showed up and Zero and Y'shtola had minimal interaction that served as enough fuel to push for YshtolaxZero ships.
          Y'shtolaxRunargays didn't actually care about that "ship" other than as a way to "own" and "troll" the average guy who had her as a waifu and get their heckin epik male tears. So when they saw a Y'shtola ship they actually found interesting for a moment (Zero), they subsequently hopped over to that and started to push that like crazy.
          But then that fell apart within like a single patch because the two of them barely interacted after that, so it was right back to Y'shtolaxRunar shit.
          >t. not a Y'shtolagay.

          I think you're probably extremely correct.

          I assume you've seen JamJam's art around? He's done a lot of FF14 stuff for a while now and some of it is excellent. But anytime he draws Ryne and Gaia with the WoL as a 3P, he gets a tonne of Twitter DMs from people requesting the image without the WoL, so Ryne and Gaia can just scissor instead...

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Venat
            See

            1) Venat doesn't like you romantically.
            2) She's turbodead so even if she did it doesn't matter.

            >Zero
            You said so yourself, she's with Jullus.

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              >Yeah guys, remember that really hot prime breeding age aryan woman that was inspired by (Us) to literally take on herself millennia of pain and suffering just to give (Us) a chance on the far future to stop the end of the universe ?
              >That also called (Us) her "little light of the future", smiled at (Us) like crazy, made frick me eyes at (Us) constantly and literally started crying when (We) called her by her name ?
              >Whose biggest regret was that she will never ever embark on adventures with (Us) ?
              >She didn't like us romantically, like not at all, totally.
              >Just trust me guys.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                Sounds motherly to me, familial and not romantic.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                I was playing a fem lala so it was pretty weird tbh

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                I think you've been told that male hyurs are the MC race.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                No, I choose to believe Venat has a fetish for short people and that's why Loporrits exist.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Adalberta,
        literally who

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        >There's a fricking laundry list of girls that're into the WoL
        Two points:
        One, when's the last time we actually got any of that content?
        Two, how many of them are still important/relevant characters?

        Like take these two points together. We didn't get a new girl who was interested in/liked the WoL romantically in EW at all, and of the girls who already did like him, they either don't act like it in EW (Y'shtola, Alisaeie) or don't show up in the expansion.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          >We didn't get a new girl who was interested in/liked the WoL romantically in EW at all

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            Please don't. I don't want another pedantic, totally subjective Venat argument. Please god.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            Anon, that's your mother. Shame on you.

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              Your mom can be your wife...

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              Your mom can be your wife...

              Please don't. I don't want another pedantic, totally subjective Venat argument. Please god.

              >My wife can't be this cute

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              Mothers make the best wives.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                And they deserve the most love.

                >2) She's turbodead so even if she did it doesn't matter.
                I don't wanna get into yet another Venat argument, so I won't reply beyond this- but I absolutely refute this. It's just silly.

                When you're playing the MSQ, after Venat's death, that night you have a fricking cutscene of her being welcomed into the Aetherial sea. It plays directly after, it's directed right at her, it's unmissable. The idea that she's "Turbodead" seems like some random thoughtless comment pulled on a panel without a clear memory of the storyline (same with a lot of the random additions people use for panel answers as canon, honestly).

                Anon, I don't like it either, but they outright stated that she was gigadead. Until such time as they decide to amend that, it's just how it is, and rejecting it in earnest (not just as a cope, or to enjoy your own take on things) is on the level of the 'you-know-whats'. I also don't think it makes a lot of sense and feels hamfisted and kind of contradictory to the Flow artwork that came out after EW, but it is what it is.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            1) Venat doesn't like you romantically.
            2) She's turbodead so even if she did it doesn't matter.

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              >1) Venat doesn't like you romantically.
              Her face when you actually say that.

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              >2) She's turbodead so even if she did it doesn't matter.
              I don't wanna get into yet another Venat argument, so I won't reply beyond this- but I absolutely refute this. It's just silly.

              When you're playing the MSQ, after Venat's death, that night you have a fricking cutscene of her being welcomed into the Aetherial sea. It plays directly after, it's directed right at her, it's unmissable. The idea that she's "Turbodead" seems like some random thoughtless comment pulled on a panel without a clear memory of the storyline (same with a lot of the random additions people use for panel answers as canon, honestly).

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                YoshiP confirmed she's gone, Black person.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                Tbh, I also remember that they said during the MSQ she's supposed to be turbodead with not even a soul left to return to the aetherial sea. BUT if this is not the case I immediately demand SE to bring her back, kick out all the gayboys from the party and have wholesome adventures with my wife. She deserves it.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Tbh, I also remember that they said during the MSQ she's supposed to be turbodead with not even a soul left to return to the aetherial sea. BUT if this is not the case I immediately demand SE to bring her back,
                I imagine that's not the case in the long run because how the frick would any of them even remotely guess at something like that? Y'shtola didn't pipe up and say there was a big lump of aether missing or anything like that. Stinks of every character looking at the camera and saying in monotone "VENAT DIED ON THE WAY BACK TO HER HOME PLANET"

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Tbh, I also remember that they said during the MSQ she's supposed to be turbodead with not even a soul left to return to the aetherial sea.
                They never did, no. That was entirely in an interview. Nobody ingame has actually pointed out that Venat is deader than dead.

                >Tbh, I also remember that they said during the MSQ she's supposed to be turbodead with not even a soul left to return to the aetherial sea. BUT if this is not the case I immediately demand SE to bring her back,
                I imagine that's not the case in the long run because how the frick would any of them even remotely guess at something like that? Y'shtola didn't pipe up and say there was a big lump of aether missing or anything like that. Stinks of every character looking at the camera and saying in monotone "VENAT DIED ON THE WAY BACK TO HER HOME PLANET"

                Also speaking of that, I kinda feel Y'shtola's comment in 6.2 of how you're Hydaelyn's chosen champion wouldn't have been said with a broad smile if she didn't think Venat is watching from the Lifestream.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Nobody ingame has actually pointed out that Venat is deader than dead.
                There's two things that basically refer to it.
                >Long after I am gone, though not even my soul remaineth...
                >My love will be with you forever, my dearest children.
                After you finish Endwalker, pre any of the 6.x patches, you can also go to the Watcher, and he'll say this (overwritten by later events, afaik)
                >The Loporrits have told me of your victory over Meteion. It is a relief to know HYdaelyn's wish for Etheirys and Her people was granted.
                >She is not here to revel in your victory, but so long as there is life on Etheirys, Her spirit shall live on.
                >In the soothing summer rains, and gentle spring breezes, She will be with you always.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                Well, nevermind then, RIP.
                I still don't understand why they did it honestly, it's depressing af.

                >Also when is someone going to point out that there's actually nothing at all stopping WoL from just time travelling back to Elpis to meet with Venat again before the Final Days hit her
                You mean to romance her?
                Probably the fact that it'd be extremely bittersweet. I mean, yeah, the WoL could probably do it, but it'd be with the knowledge that the person he ends up falling in love with is fricking dead in his present.

                >You mean to romance her?
                I mean for anything honestly. We all know this game isn't ever gonna have realer romance than just occasional cutscene flirting and quasi-declarations of love that don't go anywhere, but at the very fricking least I think WoL owes it to her to go back and say "Hey Venat, it worked. You took the right choice. Your sacrifices will be worth it and we all owe our lifes to you."

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                >I still don't understand why they did it honestly, it's depressing af.
                They probably didn't expect people to like Venat as much as they did and just wanted to conclusively close the book on her and Zodiark's part of the story. Like, definitively, so that people would stop going "but what if this character is ACTUALLY Venat/Hydaelyn RETURNED??" Stuff like that. I don't agree with it, and it feels really overbearing, but that's what they decided on.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                That's funny af because the other day I saw jamjam in full cope mode talking about how the little girl in the seasonal event looks a lot like Venat. Poor guy's gonna go full Mitron.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                I saw that too. And I have to admit, the girl looks not a thousand miles off from a young Venat. But yeah, I think that was why they went that far with it.
                (Also JamJam has unironically 'you-know-whats' in his comments picking fights)

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                You can't tell me this is not intentional. She even has a custom face and Venat's nose.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                It isn't. For you see, she doesn't have her chunky eyebrows. :^)
                But yeah, I admit that there's a resemblance there. I know the hairstyle isn't new, but the fact that they picked a young hyur hairstyle with the hair pulled back and two strands on the side of her face doesn't help either.
                Unironically what were they implying?

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Unironically what were they implying?
                Maybe they're already prepping fallbacks in case DT and whatever weird shit they're doing is gonna flop ?

                No, I choose to believe Venat has a fetish for short people and that's why Loporrits exist.

                No, she literally just likes cute things. That's why Argos is a cute golden afghan.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                >No, she literally just likes cute things
                Including fem lalas. Sexually.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                Have faith it might be her!

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                >We all know this game isn't ever gonna have realer romance than just occasional cutscene flirting and quasi-declarations of love that don't go anywhere, but at the very fricking least I think WoL owes it to her to go back and say "Hey Venat, it worked. You took the right choice. Your sacrifices will be worth it and we all owe our lifes to you."
                I do think that the rule is not to tell people too much of the future, as it could change people's thoughts and decisions down the line. Which is why WoL wasn't allowed to tell anyone in the first place.
                I hope we one day get an Elpis Variant Dungeon with Venat, though.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                >I hope we one day get an Elpis Variant Dungeon with Venat, though.
                >with Venat
                Straight white woman ? In my game ? That's e heckin no chud, now go do trusts with the bunny Black person and gay cat.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                oh no?! dark rabbit skin to stain with my white, white semen?!

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                >That was entirely in an interview. Nobody ingame has actually pointed out that Venat is deader than dead.
                Hydaelyn her self literally says that not not even Venat's soul will remain because she used up all its aether.
                Also it wasn't an interview, it was the post-6.0 Q&A during a Live Letter with YoshiP and the writers of Endwalker.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                Tbh, I also remember that they said during the MSQ she's supposed to be turbodead with not even a soul left to return to the aetherial sea. BUT if this is not the case I immediately demand SE to bring her back, kick out all the gayboys from the party and have wholesome adventures with my wife. She deserves it.

                >Tbh, I also remember that they said during the MSQ she's supposed to be turbodead with not even a soul left to return to the aetherial sea. BUT if this is not the case I immediately demand SE to bring her back,
                I imagine that's not the case in the long run because how the frick would any of them even remotely guess at something like that? Y'shtola didn't pipe up and say there was a big lump of aether missing or anything like that. Stinks of every character looking at the camera and saying in monotone "VENAT DIED ON THE WAY BACK TO HER HOME PLANET"

                Venat ceased to exist the second Hydaelyn was summoned. The only reason Hydaelyn retained memories of Venat was because she served as the heart/core for Hydaelyn.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          >and of the girls who already did like him, they either don't act like it in EW (Y'shtola, Alisaeie)
          Bruh what. Alisaie gets that time in 6.0 where people say she has more of a spring to her step when she's near WoL. Y'shtola literally spends the 6.X patches just constantly bantering and teasing WoL (when she's not fricking off to research). On another note, it's also the first time Kan-E gays got thrown a bone with her comment about finding love in the role quests, and Yugiri in her own role quests has a "meeting the parents" part, even if it's played more for laughs.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        whoever she is she can have him, I'm so fricking tired of him giving wol long verbal blowjobs directly to camera just because she's ishikawa's dream boytoy

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        The only reason Runar/Y'shtolagays existed is because Y'shtola is the basic b***h straight guy waifu. She's the promotional waifu for the average heterosexual guy playing XIV. Now why would a group of people mostly from twitter and reddit object to that and try very, very hard to push for another male NPC to get in between it?
        Just look at how they briefly dissipated from the discourse altogether during 6.2 when Zero showed up and Zero and Y'shtola had minimal interaction that served as enough fuel to push for YshtolaxZero ships.
        Y'shtolaxRunargays didn't actually care about that "ship" other than as a way to "own" and "troll" the average guy who had her as a waifu and get their heckin epik male tears. So when they saw a Y'shtola ship they actually found interesting for a moment (Zero), they subsequently hopped over to that and started to push that like crazy.
        But then that fell apart within like a single patch because the two of them barely interacted after that, so it was right back to Y'shtolaxRunar shit.
        >t. not a Y'shtolagay.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        >But just imagine the shoe on the other foot. Imagine a new female NPC came along, out of nowhere, with zero setup and zero connection to either the plot or to any character... but she's G'raha's childhood friend, and she's definitely in love with him, and he's extremely fond of her (as a friend... but maaaaaybe!) and her gimmick is that she just throws herself on him and cling to him, as he stammers and goes "Ah, hey! Hey!"
        That's actually exactly what happened with Urianger in ARR lol.

        But anyway, I think part of what makes Runar so infuriating in comparison is that
        >Y'shtola falls unconscious at the end of SB.
        >The WoL in-character response is obviously to be worried af and suffer for all of their friends, not knowing if they're ok.
        >WoL then proceeds to fight through the most hardcore and infernal war scenario in the game.
        >WoL finally starts ShB and reaches the First, starts fighting again and absorbing lightwardens and turning their own body into a bomb.
        >Finally meets Y'shtola again.
        >Oh turns out while WoL was going through all this hell, she met this guy and now they've technically been hanging out for longer than WoL's known her.
        I legit think people would get less angry at this if it actually was a childhood friend (not that Y'shtola has any) because then it wouldn't feel like Runar was written with the sole purpose of taking a big fat shit on everyone who likes Y'shtola. It doesn't even matter that in the end, the reason Y'shtola even spent time there in the first place was precisely for WoL, because shippers don't want Y'shtola to do things for WoL.

  56. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Do you guys ever cheated to complete an ultimate or savage?
    Yes. Can't play without XivAlexander (also available to console players btw)
    South America DC when?

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >(also available to console players btw)
      really?

  57. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >random mikumo screenshot
    >not the first post by that IP address

  58. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >FF Thread starts with talking about WoW and trying to push cheat addons

    I'll just post Yugiri, I think.

  59. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >7 months until the dawntrail
    >there's literally nothing to do

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Welcome to your first post-expansion/pre-expansion lull, nonny!

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        SB and ShB had Eureka and Bozja albeit

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          >he thinks that eureka and bozja kept people busy during the months between sb and shb and shb and ew
          lul

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            They did. Maybe not for you Limsa idlers, but I never had to wonder what there is to do when I logged in during 4.55 or 5.55.

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              >They did.
              luhmao

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                Bro, the whole summer before EW I was camping in Bozja and having fun. Right now I'm unsubbed because there's nothing to do.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Entire friendlist and everyone else I knew since 2013 played at the end of sb and shb and had fun with eureka and bozja
                >Not a single one of them is still subbed right now
                Ye, they did

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah, because they did

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          Keep yourself occupied with dreams of Dawntrail's foray. 🙂

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            Actually I'm keeping myself occupied with the last few older relics I still have to finish up because past expansions actually had content.

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              I'm happy for you, anon. Enjoy it.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      I've got final Manderville weapons to grind but once that's done I'll officially have nothing to do. Dragon's Dogma 2 is coming out soon though and that'll take up alllllll my time for the next five years.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >playing between major expansions

      maybe don't be a fricking mmo addict
      the fricking producer even says likewise

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        well tell mr producer-san israeliteshi-p to allow me to keep my house without a sub you fricking homosexual

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          nah you should ask him to add instanced housing so that you wanting to be inactive and pay nothing doesn't cuck a potential eager active player out of their chance to get a house

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous
    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      First MMO? there's always a time period between expansions where the game is in limbo. You use this time to go play other games.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        >You use this time to go play other games.
        Omigosh that's so nice of Yoshida to give us permission to play other games!!

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >6.55 in a week, more story and some content plus final relic weapons
      >grind out full savage clear
      >grind out max raid gear for job(s) you plan to take into DT launch so you can cruise through the first 3-4 levels of 7.0 and sell the gear boxes on the MB
      >prog ultimates
      >level jobs to max that you've been putting off
      >knock out other side content you've been putting off
      >wait and watch for other unsubber houses to go up on the market and try to snatch up some primo real estate.

      If none of that appeals to you, then just unsub and come back when the expac is a month or so away. Play other games with FC members that are also in the doldrums if you want to keep/foster those connections more.
      One thing I've always appreciated about xiv is you are never beholden to a sub, and fomo really only applies for certain cosmetic shit you can get for free from events, which usually end up on the store anyways if you need them that much. Only exception is keeping a housing plot.
      Play when you enjoy it, don't when it feels like a chore.
      Simple as

  60. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Ganker right now
    I thought you guys were based and trad, what the hell happened ?

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Mothers deserve love and respect.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      can you please refrain from trying to spark another dumb venat/anti-venat argument
      they're so tiresome

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Speak for yourself, I personally think they're the most fun we get from this game.

  61. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Man

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      yeah he's a pretty hot man

  62. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    don't mess with lala chads

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      I miss when cutscenes had real animations instead of just nods.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Nobody misses 1.0

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        i don't miss it enough to get back the total shitheap that is 1.0

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        There weren't actually a lot of those cutscenes in 1.X, most cutscenes still amounted to *nods* *punches fist* but it had better lighting and worse texture quality on gear.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        That's why I do all my Manderville quests. Amazing animations.

  63. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    hrothgays and hrothgals look like fricking shit

    why did they base a race off the worst party member in FF history
    what would you replace that shitty race with

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Bangaa.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        LIMITED
        RACE
        2
        (That's just feet and hands they can equip because of their weird bodies and heads, for those playing at home)

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          hey, if blizzard can do it and get away with it... :^)

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            feet and hands is unironically still more gear than dracthyr can equip

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              Let's not beat up on the mazed, anon. They suffer enough.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Seeq static to rape all the Miqo'te and Viera prostitutes with.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Moth girls
      Males unnecessary

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous
  64. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    NO EXCUSES

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      I have about 601 excuses

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        and being a b***h is all of them

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          Only half, the other half is whatever the frick keeps blocking my card. Whatever is my third world economy or some internet bullshit between the payment procesor and SE

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            use the amazon pay option
            that's how i bypassed by card being blocked for a week for no reason

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              I see no amazon payment option, but i see i can buy fun money via amazon and then pay the sub with fun money. Gonna check it out

  65. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    nta but I do see mortal life as dogshit. It's miserable, held back by physical limitations and social and emotional needs, and worst of all, it's short. I'd much rather live as an immortal or even just a longer life without the suffering of needs. Just because you live in a state doesn't mean you don't wish for more, or better.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      It sounds to me that you need to walk some more.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Immortality is le bad and suffering is le good is aetherlet cope. Meteion deserves to be killed for setting the downfall of mankind in motion. At least Hermes and Venat got what was coming to them.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >I'd much rather live as an immortal or even just a longer life without the suffering of needs
      it's because you already tasted misery unlike the ancients
      you're literally 'walking' right now, of course you want immortality

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        In the context of FFXIV, that's a state denied to humanity by Venat. If you're arguing 'mortals seeking immortality will eventually find it' then you're basically just going back to square one: the Sundered will be just like the Ancients someday, and all Venat did was delay the inevitable.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          >the Sundered will be just like the Ancients someday
          how? there will be no more rejoinings. and kids are being born in other reflections as sundered beings, the lifestream is sustaining the new cycle

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            In the sense of being immortal. Technology and magic will keep developing, eventually modern society will reach ancient Allag, and without Rejoinings there won't be any world-ending apocalypses that rip the entire world's society apart and set technology back, so they'll someday SURPASS Allag. In the modern day the Garleans are already inducing the Echo artificially, and in Allag we know they could make people immortal, much more powerful, revive the dead, create new life, and all that. They'll artificially make themselves like the Ancients, and then the same question of ennui comes up once more. If ennui is the core problem then Venat didn't solve it, only delay it, and was it really worth what she did for the sake of a delay?

            Yeah that's the rub. As long as man walks, he will eventually find wings again. Allag for example was in a state of societal decay not unlike the ancients because their advanced technology eliminated all hardships. In order to completely avoid a Nibirun scenario you'll have to keep hitting the reset button when humanity hits certain success thresholds.

            And at that point what would've made Venat any different from the Ascians, who constantly destroyed society after society in pursuit of a selfish goal? Never mind that both are gone now and so nobody is going to hit that reset button.

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              Sure, but there are more chances that a civilization that tasted misery and finally found the answer to "what's the meaning of life?" wouldn't commit the same mistakes than allag and other more nihilistic past civilizations.
              most of those races didn't go through the necessary life experiences and knowledge to put both body and soul in balance
              Happiness is found when you contrast it with sadness. Without one, you don't have the other. Living care free, having it easy since you were born, will never give you true happiness, cause you don't have nothing to compare it with

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                The people of Allag were Sundered. Their ancestors went through all the same misery as a modern Eorzean does. There was no difference. The people of high Allag didn't know as MUCH suffering, but that'll be the same for the future society of Eitherys too. The people who knew the most suffering are dead. The ones who knew a little less are probably dead too. Eventually the people who achieved Utopia to escape suffering are either all dead or a minority, and most people are going to be the ones born into Utopia. Hence, they'll be no different than the Ancients.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah, but allagans were conquerors, and when they weren't conquering, they were developing new technologies. Just because they could. It was progress for the sake of it. But neither Xande or Amon found the true meaning of life. That's what they lacked of.
                We, the people that shares a lifetime with the WoL are the ones who finally found the answer, and we are spreading it with the other reflections.
                That's what separates us from previous civilizations. Mankind wouldn't have reached this without the sundering. The ancients would've kept summoning Zodiark over and over again, until a single Ancient would remain.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                In a couple generations the meaning of life will be a hokey saying that little teens roll their eyes at and say "Whatever, mom" to.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                maybe, that doesn't mean it isn't true
                and those teenagers won't be the ones shaping the future

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah that's the rub. As long as man walks, he will eventually find wings again. Allag for example was in a state of societal decay not unlike the ancients because their advanced technology eliminated all hardships. In order to completely avoid a Nibirun scenario you'll have to keep hitting the reset button when humanity hits certain success thresholds.

  66. 4 months ago
    Anonymous
  67. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    LUPIN
    ARE
    NEXT

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Never ever

  68. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    You will then have a situation where cross-platform players are excluded and creating a division that bogs the game down tremendously and a ton of persistent and eternal drama not just inside ultimate raiding, but also you'll have Black folk demanding players use tools to play even casual content.

  69. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    So we will get to go around Tural with a hrotroon, and xyr will lecture us on the cultural sensitivities of the natives. Quite based from Yoshi & co

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >blizzard tries to improve the game and story to bring back players
      >square enix hires a troony to retain the wowfugees
      you can't make this shit up

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Fricking incredible, am i right fellow trans ally

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          idc, as long as xiv keeps growing and wow dies
          for SE, troony money isn't worth less than regular money

  70. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    If Alisaie grows up to be anything like her mother she's going to be a bombshell.

  71. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Trancers won in the other thread. The Venatposters fell apart and just resorted to namecalling.

  72. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    I mostly just use XIVcombo and that Rez plugin that highlights who has debuffs and is dead.

  73. 4 months ago
    Anonymous
  74. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    I think I'd like Alisae more if I didn't find her hairstyle utterly repulsive.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Her hair is long so you can pull it and arch her spine while you're in up to the pubes

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        >pubes
        ew

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          SILVERY WHITE WISPY ELF PUBES

  75. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >mogged by monster hunter
    Where is the hype?

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >My Full Response to The Woke Translator Attacking Me
      >807k views

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      But I was told the full trailer will break the internet... 30 million players after all

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      youtube hate weeb stuff

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      He was so close to come back, I think the low engagment is one of the reasons he will never come back

  76. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    She's alive and well in my heart.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      damn anon if you've got a seven foot tall hole in your heart I think you need to see a doctor

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      She too cute HNNNNGGGGG

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Of course. In my heart (and RP) as well.

  77. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    I love watching streamers play through the Elpis section of the story in Final Fantasy XIV 6.0

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      don't know whats bigger her teeth or her breasts

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        you know what they say about girls with big teeth

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      I swear to god, the same artist does the pfp to all these hoes

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >469 views
      grim

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        she has 438 subscribers on that channel
        her engagement is over 100%

  78. 4 months ago
    Anonymous
  79. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Also when is someone going to point out that there's actually nothing at all stopping WoL from just time travelling back to Elpis to meet with Venat again before the Final Days hit her
    It's not like that has any chances of splitting the timeline, definitely not more than what we did fricking around with Pandemonium

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      A normal person: Goes back to elpis to have sex with venat as many times as they want
      WoL: Goes back to elpis to create even more monsters for him to fight in the future

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Also when is someone going to point out that there's actually nothing at all stopping WoL from just time travelling back to Elpis to meet with Venat again before the Final Days hit her
      You mean to romance her?
      Probably the fact that it'd be extremely bittersweet. I mean, yeah, the WoL could probably do it, but it'd be with the knowledge that the person he ends up falling in love with is fricking dead in his present.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        >the person he ends up falling in love with is fricking dead in his present.
        Well, if that's the case I think it's time to change the future. What's the point of time traveling otherwise ?

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          And then you end up doing just what Venat tried so hard to avoid.
          Unless you can do something that doesn't significantly alter the course of events.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          can't change the future, it's a preordained time loop

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            But we can jump to another timeline where she is still alive. I mean making the tech to do so would probably be impossible, especially to pinpoint a specific universe.

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              Personally, my sentimental self would feel like it's "just not the same."
              That said, the timeline where the 8th Calamity took place probably should still have a Hydaelyn. Currently despairing because her WoL is FRICKING. DEAD.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                Possibly, unless the Ascians figured out she was just hiding behind a crystal on the edges of the lifestream at the center of the planet and killed her.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                Dark. I hope not, but maybe it'd be a mercy kill, I dunno.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            And then you end up doing just what Venat tried so hard to avoid.
            Unless you can do something that doesn't significantly alter the course of events.

            Yeahhh about that
            https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/special/tales_from_the_shadows/sidestory_08/#sidestory_08
            Multi timelines are a thing

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              Oh yeah, I know.
              But creating huge change in the past splits the timeline. That's why G'raha's timeline exists alongside the altered one, and why he didn't fade.
              But there's still the possibility that a WoL in the past could be stuck in that timeline when he tries to travel to the present, for example. It's dangerous stuff to frick with.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                nothing will stop me from hitting on alternate timeline mommy sorry

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                I wouldn't want you to refrian from it.
                >Maybe they're already prepping fallbacks in case DT and whatever weird shit they're doing is gonna flop ?
                So what you're saying is I should be doomposting about DT if I want Venat back?

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                what do the runes say

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                I don't know. Maybe it's something like "i'm a horrible c**t" "i am just the worst" and I've been happily posting slanderous pictures of my waifu all this time.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                I don't know. Maybe it's something like "i'm a horrible c**t" "i am just the worst" and I've been happily posting slanderous pictures of my waifu all this time.

                >Ahhhh, finally...
                >You've beaten me.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                >But creating huge change in the past splits the timeline.
                That was true in Shadowbringers, but not of the events of Elpis which were a true causal loop required for the existence of the game's present. The writers' position on how to reconcile any incompatible metaphysics is "don't think about it".

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                >but not of the events of Elpis which were a true causal loop required for the existence of the game's present.
                How so? What happened in Elpis and after it happened exactly to maintain the timeline.
                All of the ancients involved sans Venat lost their memories so they didn't possess the knowledge.
                Venat chose to repeat her actions as the WoL informed her she had done in the past, to the letter, so that the events would unfold as they did before and not split the timeline.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                "venat did what she was told" completely misses the point of WoL's involvement which was important and happened whether anybody remembers it or not, elidibus remembers you were at pandaemonium

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                Yes, but nothing in how the future unfolded was altered, so the timeline didn't split.
                It only splits in XIV when events from the past are averted or fundamentally changed. Like when G'raha literally undid the 8th Umbral Calamity.
                If Hades, Hythlodaeus and Hermes had remembered everything about what happened in Elpis and done something with that info that was entirely different from what originally happened, or Venat had decided against Sundering, or in favor of telling the Convocation, or not conscribed her allies that would later be used as the templates for the Twelve, then the timeline would be split because events from the past would be significantly altered.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                >How so?
                We were there because we were always there.
                She did it because she did it.

  80. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Nonbinary trans moon rabbits

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Anon, they're sexless dolls. Calm the frick down.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      So, like the dragons.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Nah, dragons can bang and reproduce still, loporrits can't.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          Okay, fair. But the dragons are also sexless. They just can reproduce by themselves.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          Dragons do not frick, they're sexless and reproduce through immaculate conception of an egg
          Ask yourself how Hraesvelgr has a brood of dragons when he's never taken a mate before or after Shiva, who was human (elezen) and also he ate her to keep her soul's aether with him

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            In real life that's called being a self-fertilizing hermaphrodite or a parthenogenic female depending on the actual mechanics of it.

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              Humans generally do try to shuffle creatures off into a male or female category they might not actually fit into since they need a point of comparison, yes

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                Science classifies sex based on gamete production. Making eggs makes you a female. Making eggs and sperm makes you a hermaphrodite. If dragons are just cloning out an egg cell then they're all females, biologically. If they're fertilizing their own eggs using their own sperm internally they're all hermaphrodites. So actually his relationship with Shiva was lesbianism.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                Science also has no accurate term for creatures with varying chromosomal alignments from XX or XY and defines them on how "close" they are to male or female, it's all nitpicking to satisfy the human condition. This is the same species that invented wolf pack dynamics out of thin air and prompted the "alpha, beta, gamma, omega" thought-train for drunken frat boys for decades, and were suckered into believing and funding a woman that claimed to have taught a gorilla sign-language and was the only one who could reliably interpret the streams of gibberish signs the gorilla put out

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                Anon birds have fricking Z and W chromosomes and still sex the same as mammals do with their X and Y. And sexing still happened before chromosomes evolved, it's just that beforehand how an animal sexed depended on other factors like temperature (see crocodiles.) Chromosomes aren't even as relevant as you think, human sexing is 90% determined by hormonal balance, the only thing that is dictated by the chromosome is your gonads. That's why you can have individuals who are born and develop seemingly female but then they go to get tested for fertility and find out they have testes instead of ovaries.

  81. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Cant installl the 80Gb unless i already have a sub
    wtf Yoshi, refund me the time im not playing while the thing downloads then.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      tank u for praying my gemu

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Is it really
      Used to be you could download even if you dont have sub

  82. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    How big is the full install gonna be after7.0? Might have to start shuffling some shit off my SSD depending on how big it is.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      140GB

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah I'll have to make some room then, damn. Oh well.

  83. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Enter Solution Nine
    >"And here is the organization responsible for our great advancement, Shinra"
    >mfw

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >ShinRa isn't an organization, it's a race/civilizatiom

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Solution Nine
      It's time for a final solution to the Lalafell problem

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Enter final solution 9
      >Find random recording
      >We are the lufenians
      mfw

  84. 4 months ago
    Anonymous
  85. 4 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      cute

  86. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    So which Ascian glyph is that in the back?

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Ultima.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      It fricking looks like Bowser what the frick.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        >WoL tries to backwards longjump through an Arcadion skyscraper, misses and falls forever out-of-bounds
        >ruh, ruh, rauh rauh rauh

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Mario collab confirmed.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Super Mario
          >not Mario Mario
          YOU HAD ONE JOB

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's chopped up from Ultima's glyph from FF12, so it's Altima

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        It actually does look similar to part of the bottom if you flip it upside down

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      gpu lookin ass building

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        might be intentional since yoshida repeatedly joked about it himself
        giant "processing unit" for some of arcadion's functions or some shit like that

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's obviously a Dwarf helmet you dummy

  87. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    do u agree?

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      No

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      ...huh?
      They both look more or less the same.
      Hell, I have two cats irl, one male one female. That difference in the eyes is actually fricking spot on.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      They're barely even different, what the frick is wrong with these morons

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      no

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      I think most westerners are fricking moronic coons who refuse to accept the differences between males and females physiques

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      ?
      we literally saw detailed fem hroth with the same detailed face well minus fangs

      Pigtails is Julyan who's Hildibrands mum, the Women in the back isn't an Au Ra that's Athena.

      Too much booba on her and Athena is too crazy

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Athena is too crazy
        That's the best part.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          >infects husband with her insanity virus turning him into a copy of her mentally.
          >would mean death of personality as she fricks a male version of herself that only looks like you
          Nooo? Thats bad

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      nah, frick them

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      I think m hroths should lose the slouch already

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      thsi homosexual should just play gw2

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        I wouldn't even recommend a die hard furry to play that, every single armour piece in the game looks like utter shit on a Charr, the textures all stretch and everything clips.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      what the frick does this even mean, how are twitter users more brain rotted than your average Ganker user.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        the twitter/Ganker overlap is insane, except they go here to "shitpost" and go there to actually chat about shit
        actual impending twitter death brought them all over here for a day or two and Ganker was noticeably higher quality

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      what the frick does this even mean, how are twitter users more brain rotted than your average Ganker user.

      it means that any sexual dimorphism more considerable than present in GW2's charr (male and female are basically identical) is le bad male gaze heckin literally patriarchy

  88. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >"Froth" has actually become the word to refer to femhroths.

  89. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    is he right
    is blm easy

    [...]

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Too pussy to ask this in the thread he posted that in
      It's okay. I'll do it for you.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      no he's a moron

  90. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    This expandion's raid series was made by the next expansion's writer.
    Heart of Sabik, a mystery auracite. Puple gems. Ultima.

  91. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Maybe Altima is responsible for Arcadion as her own pet society because she saw Allag and thought "neat" but didn't want it to end in gay genocide like Allag

  92. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    All mothers deserve love.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      I'll give her plenty of love. Whenever, wherever. And make her a true mother.

  93. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Did I go full schizo or this is literally her ?

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      1. you went full schizo
      2. i'm sure there is some intent behind it, deliberately making it resemble her. but don't assume that it means that they're bringing her back. at best, it's probably just a playful nod

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Also, her name is basically Sybil, a Sybil is a holy woman through whom the gods speak. The Twelve are le dead so if that's the case the only remaining (uncertain) being could be called a god...

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      man the girl looks nothing like the coverposter

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      I think it is, they gave her a unique one of a kind hairstyle that no one else has and she has the exact same hair and eye colours.

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