Oh are they actually gonna smash the light world and dark world together or something? I remember thinking that they could do that when they first mentioned it.
We could have >nerdy archeology adventures with Y'shtola >workout episodes with Sweat-stinien >mercenary life with Thancred >rabbit wrangler with Urianger >school life episodes with the twins
But instead we got this. It ain't fair bros, 6.1 started so well.
I am so fucking disappointed we've never gotten more minigames like that time we played cards using Y'shtola's transformed body.
Also that Estinien scene finally convinced me for sure they legit just put fanart pics inside the game as cutscenes. I already had my suHispanicions with the ending of 6.0 resembling that pic of wounded WoL with the other Scions so much but this one was just literally copypasted without a real story reason lmao.
>Golbez was actually just some literal who mage in a ridiculous getup who went around beating up memoriates with his boyfriend >also he died and his boyfriend is LARPing as him, Lyse-style >Zeromus has nothing to do with Zero and doesn't even have a real model so it is guaranteed to die before 7.0 >6.5 will be more gag-riddled filler as we figure out how to beat up Zeromus >Azdaja will likely be cured of her darkness AIDS so there's no stakes >still no indication on what the fuck 7.0 is even going to be about
Gotta say it, bros. MSQ's a flop. Things are looking really fucking grim.
>still no indication on what the fuck 7.0 is even going to be about
It will be whatever that envelope on Krile's desk is. Probably the homeland of the gleaner or whatever expedition Urianger and Thancred were talking about.
>mr. garlean we're going to use the evil tower so you don't get eaten by monsters again >AIEEEEEEEEEEE THIS CAN'T BE, IT'S GARLEAN TERRITORY YOU SHOULD BE PAYING ME FOR THE PRIVILEDGE, SAVE ME ZENOSMAN
fucking subhumans
and I thought we had hit rock bottom with the mhiggers
I'm just tired of these ancient gods and massive summonings and dragons all tracing back to the same two or three things I just want to do a little adventure and rescue a cursed frog or something it's all so tiresome
This is why many people want a reset, it's all so tiresome to keep going over the same few points over and over and over, especially now that EW delved to the very source of it all.
Everything post 6.0 feels boring, soulless and repetitive.
Couldn't they ditch the Scions like they said? Why did they have to come back.
Everything post 6.0 is filler to me. The story ended with 6.0, stop.
Yep. They fucked up.
End of 6.0 was the perfect chance to just cut it off. If they wanted to do something about the void they could have put it into Pandaemonium which is utterly fucking devoid of meaningful content.
The game has a fairly big bar to entry, even though it's easy to get to a max job, it's still a cunt to slog through FIVE games to get to the endgame. What they really needed to do was make an alternate, low-mid level adventure as a second MSQ that could can begin as a new player or after the first MSQ. This is just piling shit upon shit upon shit, then they'll whine "of course we need to put the level cap up! you have to go up from here!!" fucking why
The fact that you can run old duties unsynced is why old content is fucking dead
The Scions are not the problem. The fact that they are going for another world ending plot, but this time just incredibly cliche is an issue. The few moments of character interaction we get are nice, but we didn't need Garleans teach Zero trust twice. I feel they are incredibly afraid of the MSQ being accused of having "no stakes" that the failed theatre writer tries to overcompensate.
Its also mentioned that the auracite didn't implant her desire to become a god into her head, it just brought what was already there to the forefront above all else. She was always crazy, deep inside.
I don't think it's just the heart of sabik. I think he really did just go mad from thousands and thousands of years of committing horrible atrocities. After all, Elidibus basically went the same way (minus the cackling) and his handling of the heart was probably minimal.
>Diabolos fags blown the fuck out
That's fine, he's not that important. >Golbez is Vrtra fags blown the fuck out
That was a stupid theory. >Zero being Zeromus fags blown the fuck out
Literally what is the point in her being called "Zero"
Why is she even here anyway
She's so fucking BORING though.
Hilda? Right propa cunt m8, I love her
Alisaie? It's n-not like she has a crush on you or a-anything!!
Y'shtola? Mommy
Kan-E? Tradwife who wants to be an adventureslut
Raya-O? More like U-OOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Ryne? My peen
Gaia? Mwah mwah kissy my dicky
...Zero? ZERO? Zero fucking pERSONALITY that's what
>Zero and Zeromus are two completely separate entities and their names being similar is just one big coincidence
I knew promoting the BRD job quest writer was a mistake but god fucking damn
>There was no connection between Zero and Zeromus. >She doesn't turn into him, is not related to him, doesn't cause his appearance. >Y'shtola legit just fucking guessed it was a FF4 plot and happened to name her after the villain for no reason. >Zero is not anyone important, she's just some voidsent Zenos happened to like and that the crystal of light chose for no particular reason. >The twist is that there's no twist.
Literally the only parts of this storyline that have been good are the meaningless fanservice scenes. Let that sink in.
I assume she is ゼロ in Japanese? The way she explained the nickname in English was a bit far fetched but made sense. How is my wife so fluent in English when she is speaking moon?
>There was no connection between Zero and Zeromus. >She doesn't turn into him, is not related to him, doesn't cause his appearance. >Y'shtola legit just fucking guessed it was a FF4 plot and happened to name her after the villain for no reason. >Zero is not anyone important, she's just some voidsent Zenos happened to like and that the crystal of light chose for no particular reason. >The twist is that there's no twist.
Literally the only parts of this storyline that have been good are the meaningless fanservice scenes. Let that sink in.
>They threw out Gaia, the void ark, and the entire ShB role questline for this
>There was no connection between Zero and Zeromus. >She doesn't turn into him, is not related to him, doesn't cause his appearance. >Y'shtola legit just fucking guessed it was a FF4 plot and happened to name her after the villain for no reason. >Zero is not anyone important, she's just some voidsent Zenos happened to like and that the crystal of light chose for no particular reason. >The twist is that there's no twist.
Literally the only parts of this storyline that have been good are the meaningless fanservice scenes. Let that sink in.
[...] >They threw out Gaia, the void ark, and the entire ShB role questline for this
>There was no connection between Zero and Zeromus. >She doesn't turn into him, is not related to him, doesn't cause his appearance. >Y'shtola legit just fucking guessed it was a FF4 plot and happened to name her after the villain for no reason. >Zero is not anyone important, she's just some voidsent Zenos happened to like and that the crystal of light chose for no particular reason. >The twist is that there's no twist.
Literally the only parts of this storyline that have been good are the meaningless fanservice scenes. Let that sink in.
[...] >They threw out Gaia, the void ark, and the entire ShB role questline for this
actual disaster
Zero is Zeromus, the hero of eld is her
I bet that's going to be the twist
Everyone who got sucked into Dissidia got their minds wiped afterwards. And it makes no sense that Y'shtola would recognize someone that doesn't even look like anyone she met during that.
Not as butthurt as the furfags that heard the devs and the VA straight up say Runar doesn't love her and yet have spent a whole year now desperately trying to keep that bait alive.
i still think that her true name is Cecil/Cecilia, but i haven't played this new patch so i don't know what the deal is with the flashback when you see Golbez unmasked with the other person and they mention Baron
The highlander is a guy named Durante. Golbez was originally a mage who looked exactly as he does now but somehow died so Durante is now LARPing as Golbez.
>have 5 patches to build up to the next expansion >Instead of doing something interesting they spin their wheels for 4 of them >Give the players absolutely nothing to go on or look forward to
>Instead of doing something interesting they spin their wheels for 4 of them
This is what’s so especially maddening. They couldn’t even think of a mildly interesting self contained story that ends up being a filler arc. It’s just filler all the way down
I wouldn't mind the filler as much if they would at least tell us where 7.0 is heading, let me look forward to the new world, another shard, or whatever. With the way they've gone about it the discussion starts and ends at "meh, who knows" so even trying to talk about it is pointless. We all know how much they love to subvert expectations so it's a waste of time to take shots in the dark.
It's because they've framed it as filler anon, they keep everything a secret so that the player has no clue where things are heading and then they keep stacking more filler patches on top of filler patches while not explaining anything. Let's not forget they setup this exact scenario in Shadowbringers and have somehow forgotten about it and all the characters involved.
MSQ between expansions has always been heavily padded filler, except for sometimes some paperthin plot in .3, you all should've been getting angry at it with me back in ARR, among other things.
>MSQ between expansions has always been heavily padded filler
No it isn't. In a normal expansion patches 1 through 3 are the second ending to the expansion while patches 4 and 5 are buildup to the next expansion. Generally patch 1 is true filler while 2 and 3 are very story heavy, meanwhile patch 4 is mysterious (yet still gives direction) and patch 5 is a direct lead in. What makes this even sillier is that during patch 4 the trailer for the next expansion is shown of, this means that patch 4 should in theory give players enough information to go on so that the trailer isn't completely without context.
Now this time around they said they aren't doing the same thing, they are treating ALL 5 patches as a lead in to the next expansion. To most people this sounded great, cool they are going to spend 5 patches building up to the next expansion that's amazing they can do so many fun things with it. What we got was nothing of the sort, we've basically been fed four straight .1 patches of true filler.
>Golbez is fucking great, even here.
Yeah my favorite part was when he sat on the moon doing nothing for 2 IRL years and ended every patch with “mwahaha now my TRUE plan will begin”
>keep dragging out the MSQ because i feel the need to keep leveling new jobs
how do i do it bros? i just want to pick a job and stick with it through to 6.0
i'll pick for you
which role?
what do you like to do?
how do you like to spend resources?
how many buttons do you want to press?
how useful do you want to be in that role?
ideally tank or dps (i was a melee dps player in wow, but i’m really enjoying BLU and i also don’t hate MCH so far at lvl45)
i’m casual as fuck, msq, blu, eureka, potd, frontlines, duty roulette
i’m fine with resource building and spending but i despise the buff/debuff maintenance style of DRG
i’m honestly fine with pressing a lot of buttons or not a lot of buttons as long as the rotation is solidly designed (i don’t really have a definition of good design but i don’t like the design of DRG)
i’d prefer to have a lot of good utility instead of being selfish
>i’m fine with resource building and spending but i despise the buff/debuff maintenance style of DRG
play gnb, pld, mch, smn or blm
the thing is i'd suggest war but if you hate buff maintenance then don't, i'd also suggest reaper but same thing, you need to apply a debuff constantly
>You are the hero that saved the world >Need to do some shit to save the world again >"Uhhh but you might hurt the Garlean's feelings. You know, the feelings of those who invaded and murdered your people for years? Go convince some literal who's"
I don't give a fuck about Garleans. Why can't we just do what is needed? They should be happy we did not genocide them.
>Uhhh, as Scions we "officially" disbanded so now we're not really an organization that can make petitions like that.
But Alphinaud said that all the important people had already been notified that disbanding was justa cover. F'lhammin even sent letters around asking for the continued support of everyone who's helped us along the way. Are you fucking telling me the Sharlayan forum and the Contingent are NOT in the list of allies they wrote to?
I expected white hair guy to be Cecil but instead he's just some dude named Durante and Golbez was a...mute spellcaster that could speak to him...telepathically? Why would they obscure his vocalizations? Were one patch away from this story being over and moving on to the next expansion what the FUCK is going on?
>start downloading the patch >my computer starts spazzing out, my mouse controls lock up while my cursor flies around the screen, windows files start opening, and my tab highlights like it's asking for a prompt >restart and try to open back up my session, it starts spazzing again >disconnect from the internet, unplug my mouse, it still takes like ten minutes for my mousepad to properly work
So is there a hair stuck somewhere or did Yoshida give me aids.
So since they're gonna show the new expansion before 6.5, will it have something to do with Zeromus making portals between reflections, or is it just gonna be another continent like everyone expects?
At this point I have no idea, they never outright spoil the expansion in .4 patches but they always give you enough to go on so that when they show the trailer it makes sense. This time around they namedropped Zeromus and that's it. The next expansion could be literally anywhere.
During your dramatic 1v1 against a Zero possessed Zeromus, the scions begin falling down into comas again. Zeromus walks off and you're left to go to the new expansion to save them.
I literally hate all of those characters except Gaius
Fuck Au'ra how dare they taint the OG Imperial Legatus with fucking clown Vegeta hair
LOOK AT HOW GOOFY IT ACTUALLY IS
Even in ARR Gaius was 'that guy who treats non-Garleans well and wants to conquer Eorzea for their own good', it's just that the game is solidly in the 'Imperialism bad' camp.
>and wants to conquer Eorzea for their own good', it's just that the game is solidly in the 'Imperialism bad' camp.
Well it's very hard to argue butchering civilians and destroying their homes, and monuments, is for their own good after all
Gaius isn't the guy who butchers civilians for no reason. Though he does destroy their cultures, mainly because he bought into that whole "Your gods are Eikons and allowing you to observe your culture just encourages you to summon Eikons which causes all the problems in the world" propaganda.
That should've been obvious when he went WHAT HOW COULD MY COUNTRYMENT DO SUCH DEHispanicABLE THINGS TO YOU, AND YOUR FAMILY when the half Garlean chick revealed her backstory
Gaius' whole thing is he's an idealistic retard who thought his position as legatus would make sure there wasn't any corruption beneath him
And lol, lmao, rofl even
>check every server for cheap early crafted gear >everything is 5-10 mil with some 3 mil sprinkled in there >check one last server >everything is 700k-1.5 mil already
what
I mean to be quite frank here, their stuff just sold to me and all the other server's stuff is going to eventually drop down to that price over the course of 24 hours
Those items cost 250-400k to make, it's hardly worth the effort for someone to make that little profit in the early hours of day 1 of a new patch. It's not about being able to sell one item for miniscule profits, it's about being able to churn out a large amount for maximum profits. Raid patches like this are a gold rush for crafters, you want to make as much money as possible in this first week before the RMT bots take over.
youd think that between the era of the ancients and now that people would quit fucking picking up things from outer space
everything from offworld in the ff14 universe is apparently a goddamn doomsday device
I was kinda shocked that the WoL just let that scientist walk off with the heart of sabik. Not only is it basically a nuclear battery in terms of power, it also fucks with the minds of those who possess it. Why aren't we destroying it?
As a side note, I thought it was odd that we basically witness Lahabrea's villain origin story and then see Elidibus talk about how he'll be there to right Lahabrea if he goes off course (which he most certainly does not) and then the WoL smiles like it's a very heartwarming moment and not depressing dramatic irony.
No, I'm talking about when you go back to the past for the lsat time. Present Day elidibus knows full well he failed, at least by virtue of dying at your hand.
Because this whole fucking plotline has just been people acting stupid and doing unnecessary things for the sake of the plot progressing as it has to instead of how it logically should. Both this patch and 6.3 would have been just a fraction of it's duration if someone had just went "Uhhh, are you sure sensing Azdaja all the way in Garlemald for only one second isn't meant to be some kind of bait to distract us?".
>Man tries to become a god >Holy shit so based, literally me, he deserves to become a god >Woman tries to become a god >God fuck this bitch, what a shit villian, how did they fuck up a character this badly
Why is the community like this
>ice bro eats some people's souls >Athena shows up and tells you she wants to become god >recreates the Bread Man and Eric because they gotta be here somehow >fight giant Nier building motherfucker >recreates Elidibus so you can fight him and see what he looks like when he transforms normally >Elidibus breaks free of mind control >fight moth mommy
So Laha, Eric, and Elidibus in the last tier are all just recreations? What happens after you beat Athena? Why did Pandaemonium appear in the present to begin with? How did Athena escape being sundered?
It didn't. Her soul wasn't in the heart, just her memories. She implanted her memories upon the scientist guy who had Eric's soul just like she implanted Eric and Lahabrea's memories on random souls in the aetherial sea.
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Anonymous
No, I mean why didn't the Heart of Sabik get sundered too? As we see with the ruins on the First, even physical objects were sundered and split over into the shards. So there should be an Athena on every shard?
In fact why does Athena only pop out of the Heart now?
4 days ago
Anonymous
Well I suppose its possible there's a heart of sabik on every shard, possibly even containing her memories. Probably doesn't affect the one on the source though since I don't think non-soul things get reduced into lesser selves.
Seems that circumstances finally aligned for her memories to come in contact with Eric's soul. You could say it's a coincidence even that Eric happened to reincarnate as an aetherial scholar in the same generation that the WoL is doing all their heroing and the heart of sabik ends up in Azys La forgotten til he finds it.
4 days ago
Anonymous
I mean some Ancients were not Sundered so I guess things under certain conditions may stay whole too.
Laha and Eric are just recreations, it appears that she actually did manage to pull Elidibus out of the lifestream (more impressive that she apparently pulled him from the first to the source).
It wasn't actually pandaemonium, it was just a physical recreation for her experiments. The real Pandaemonium is still out there somewhere.
She didn't escape, she herself is technically a recreation like Lahabrea and Eric. She implanted her memories into the heart of sabik which transfered to the scientist guy when he found it in azys la.
Golbez is a dude named Durante that traveled with a mute magician that was the original Golbez and Durante took his name after he died
Golbez's plan all along was to let Azdaja out of her containment and let her turn into a powerful void-fiend infused with the power of Zodiark's shard on the 13th moon. so Azdaja turns into Zeromus
WoL and friends return to the first to figure out what to do to beat Zeromus, and Y'shtola suggests using Light aether and mentions that there's a whole shard full of Light aether, so 6.5 will involve the first
> Golbez's plan all along was to let Azdaja out of her containment and let her turn into a powerful void-fiend
Didn’t he have literally thousands of years to do this? Why is he doing it now?
>late shadowbabbies and endfetuses doing ARR, HW, SB, ShB post patch fillers: this is fine! >late shadowbabbies and endfetuses doing EW post-patch filler: this is shit!
>1 patch
the entirety of ARR's post-msq was filler up until .55. HW's .1, .2 and .4 were filler. All post-MSQ shit in SB was filler save .5 and ShB was filler until .3.
Stormblood patch stories were decent. Heavensward and Shadowbringers had a memorable climax in their x.3 patches that are, to this day, considered some of the peak moments of the game's story.
Endwalker degenerating to post-ARR quality of storytelling is unacceptable when you take into account that they have an entire decade of experience writing for this game and aren't a bunch of amateurs winging it like they used to be.
She's LITERALLY the only one keeping this storyline from stagnating because no one else is offering any solutions. God forbid we had actually relied on Vrtra or Zero to know what to do.
>It's not like we know anyone else from the void who would happen to be standing around, maybe in a bar somewhere, waiting to be asked questions.
The best part is she actually knows Ukulele as well so she should be able to say "why don't we ask the weird kid with the mask?".
Because Ukelele only knows how to open portals to the Thirteenth, and can't do it without his elf friend's help. Which means we can't bring him to the Source to help because if we bring him alone he can't do anything and if we just open a portal from the First to the Thirteenth we can't get done the shit we need to do. So the only reason he could actually help is if in 6.5 the solution is "WoL, could you go alone to the First and then into the Thirteenth and do everything by yourself?"
>Open portal to the Thirteenth from the First >Go to the Thirteenth >Enter portal from the Thirteenth to the Source >You're now on the Source from the First
4 days ago
Anonymous
Ok so are we jumping on the moon of the First or of the Thirteenth without using a teleporter?
4 days ago
Anonymous
You could go to the moon of the First first or go to it through the Void or take a portal there from the Source.
4 days ago
Anonymous
Damn anon, your legs must be fucking RIGID to be able to do that without a teleporter.
4 days ago
Anonymous
You could just teleport there? I mean Unukalhai's portals clearly don't all open to the same location.
I gotta be honest, the Pandaemonium story ending is kinda lamer than what I thought it would be, and all those theories people made were way more fun than what we got
Elidibus isn't giga dead like Venat, but his voiced ending cutscene was really nice
Lahabrea is actually the same lahabrea from ARR, not hijacked by Athena or anything
Athena is just evil and got the heart of sabik from somewhere
Eric is claudien's unsundered soul which was obvious but I liked his ending
damn i'm at work.....also do i really need the crafted gear to do savage? I didn't sub at all so i don't have my crafters geared to be able to make it.
Good mounts in this game >Omega >Eden >Ramuh >Ozma >Cerberus >Landerwaffe >Rathalos >Cruise Chaser >Chocobo with creative barding combination
That is all.
Would you prefer another SB/ShB situation where they toss out the bridge immediately? >SB - Uh this Black Rose bio weapon is going to fuck everyone up! Oh just kidding that has nothing to do with the actual expansion plot >ShB - These tempering towers are going to fuck everyone up! Oh just kidding we resolved that entire plot 5 minutes into the expac, you can forget all of that happened
Yes, because those patches came in .4, after we went through patches 1 through 3 that continued and finalized the previous expansion on amazingly high notes.
>Fandanny shows up and says he wants to destroy the world >Golbez twiddles his thumbs for 4 patches
>crafted especially for children
well well well the devs are now pandering to diaperfells and calling the playerbase a bunch of children, about as subtle as a brick to the face
I didn't but only because I'm just used to FF XIV's writing being so fucking bad that things are just as they seem
Pandemonium was just a final fart of Fujokawa's garbage fujoshi shit pandering and nothing else
>Another shitty patch with terrible story. >In the expansion with the worst combat and content.
It's called Endwalker because you end your subscription and walk away.
>6.0 gives you perfect fap material with Venat and a fitting end to the story with a THE END to boot >People STILL keep playing after the game is obviously over
You get what you deserve.
I fell for the meme that CBU3 had finally learned how to write an interesting story.
Reality is that Shadowbringers still had padding, and Endwalker had even more, so even the peaks of this game's storytelling were a bit flawed. I guess my expectation was that at least they'd maintain this quality of writing instead of rapidly degenerating into ARR quality once more.
>black bunny boy talking about a homecoming
He's gonna be coming with us in 7.0 isn't he? Of course he is. Meanwhile the only female presence will be Krile and Alisaie. I guess fujos win again.
>He's gonna be coming with us in 7.0 isn't he?
No, he'll be there already and we'll meet up there and maybe he'll help around with some stuff but be there largely for his own reasons.
>Zero is probably going to stick with us too.
She is literally the new writer's favorite character so yeah enjoy that shit being shoved down your throat along with G'raha
>Exarch
Fucking based >Graha
Why is this gay cat cocklusting my WoL fuck off aieeee
How can the same character be such varying degrees of based and horrible
The pace of this plot has been so bad it makes me feel like we might get a patch 6.6 before the expansion.
I can't believe they actually had the gall to spawn zeromus and then told us to fuck off until the next patch.
It also infuriates me that we domed and kicked Golbez's ass and he pulled the shitty JRPG "HAHA NO, you don't win even though you won!"
I don't know if this guy is going to drop a bombshell in 6.5 but I highly doubt it and worry about how the next expansion's story is going to go, if they fuck up Krile's development I will riot.
>FFXI - Full ass multi-expac story that doesn't rely on previous games lore or overt references at ALL >FF XIV - DUDE, REMEMBER -THIS- OLDER FF PLOT BUT WITH SLIGHTLY SUBVERTED EXPECTATIONS LIKE E12 Granny Grape Tree Tits???
What went wrong
>Fanfest announcement. >"We have publicly executed Hiroi and his decapitated head now adorns the entrance to CBU3 headquarters as an example." >"Now that we're done with XVI we're also bringing Maehiro back to write 7.0."
Designing complex jobs with a diversity of gameplay styles is not possible for what Square Enix is trying to do which is: >Add jobs every expansion to hype people up. >Continue having a tiny job design team.
To be fair the half formed Zodiark was being piloted by a dumbass and basically killed himself. Full power Z would shit on everything including the First's light regardless.
7.0 is not going to have a good story you retards. "FFXIV Season 2" is a huge meme, all you're going to get is epic SNES/PS1 JRPG references bereft of all context that made them cool back in the day.
By 9.0 we'll be unironically tagging along with Cloud to fight Sephiroth while still dealing with Y'shtola's complete lack of a personality, Graha's uwu fanboy flanderization, and shitty comic relief scenes that jarringly destroy all sense of dramatic tension. You know why we ended this way? Because FFXIV is written purely on the basis of the fandom's reaction and if they write off any of the shitty, stale scions people are going to riot. It's over.
Yoshida also said "Expect a big fucking event that will shake up the foundations of the setting and open new possibilites in these patches" and so far the only things that have happened are jack and shit.
>What the fuck is wrong with this place noticing that the post-expansion patches are the worst-written since ARR? >They literally told us the patches would be dogshit, and that's a good thing!
Yoshida trancin' hard over here.
>They literally told us to expect nothing until 7.0 and you people cry about it anyways
Maybe don't waste the Void setting on post MSQ shit writers then
After EW's ""apocalypse"" was localized to 2 fucking places in the entire world I have 0 expectations of anything that will ever be represented in the game world lmao
>The patches are SUPPOSED to be shit!!!
When are fanboys going to stop with the apologia for every single mistake the FFXIV devs make? Do you guys think the game is going to just cease to exist instantly if you admit the 6.X story has been extremely disappointing?
>every interesting mystery from ARR is slowly being answered in the most banal of ways
I don't like this one bit. Heart of Sabik being alien tech from Ultima or her race is DOUBLY RETARDED CONSIDERING METEION MOST LIKELY KILLED THEM OR THEY ULTIMA'D THE WHOLE PLANET
I feel like Endwalker completely obliterated my interest in the lore by just rushing through every single mystery in the setting and giving it the most banal and boring answers possible.
I completely checked out the moment it turned out the twelve are just some guys from Elpis.
The implication is that the actual being Ultima didn't get to the planet until after the sundering, whereas sabik was something from the same planet that was discovered by the Ancients
So the ultima race might be relevant later on too who knows
I forget, when was there specifically implication that Ultima arrived after the sundering? I'm sure you are right, I just can't remember when it was said.
Did ultima specifically land during the backstory or was that just when she was possibly found again?
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Anonymous
>I forget, when was there specifically implication that Ultima arrived after the sundering?
It was said during the Ivalice raids that it was summoned from somewhere by St. Ajora, not as a primal, but pulled from somewhere else and then was imbued with faith to become a primal.
Gotcha. Guess it's likely then another of her race reached etheirys then.
Its also mentioned that the auracite didn't implant her desire to become a god into her head, it just brought what was already there to the forefront above all else. She was always crazy, deep inside.
Well we don't know how strong those urges were. They were definitely there but they might have just been a stronger than usual "what if?". Like Hesperos wasn't insane in his devotion to Lahabrea, he presumably had a healthy respect that was twisted into mad obssession. It's possible that if she had never interacted with the crystal, she wouldn't have gone full eugenics mode.
>I forget, when was there specifically implication that Ultima arrived after the sundering?
It was said during the Ivalice raids that it was summoned from somewhere by St. Ajora, not as a primal, but pulled from somewhere else and then was imbued with faith to become a primal.
They're both conquered, broken people, but Ala Mhigo took up less screen time with their gibs so I tolerate them more than garloids. Plus, Raubahn is their new leader so they can only improve with time. Snow monkies will always have a chip on their shoulder.
>Zero connects the dots and realizes a friend is someone you can trust >the moment she says this the WoL looks to the sky and thinks of Zenos' final moments at the ass end of space
I kinda like that we actually have to go get permission to take stupid amounts of aether from people's territories, and then use them as a Voidsent summoning ritual
Just taking what we want would make us corrupt assholes, even if the way they handled it was too blatantly filler
>By 9.0 we'll be unironically tagging along with Cloud to fight Sephiroth while still dealing with Y'shtola's complete lack of a personality, Graha's uwu fanboy flanderization, and shitty comic relief scenes that jarringly destroy all sense of dramatic tension. You know why we ended this way? Because FFXIV is written purely on the basis of the fandom's reaction and if they write off any of the shitty, stale scions people are going to riot. It's over.
kys gay. i just cutscene skipped that trash padding.
>It's 8.0. >All future world zones have been officially cancelled and the patch cycle extended to 6 months. >Expansion consists of just a lobby city from which you queue to MSQ scenarios and watch cutscenes. >Classes are so utterly identical that anons now talk about Endwalker as the good old days when jobs still had some identity. >Dungeons are only released on alliance raid patches as "catch-up content" so that the developers can focus on programming trusts so they can participate in the DJ venue endgame. >MSQ consists entirely of references to old Square Enix games. Cloud teaming up with Zero to fight Sephiroth is treated as the most "kino" moment of the whole expansion by slack-jawed Anons who are still trying to convince you this is one of the best stories to ever grace videogames. >Alliance raid is a crossover with Forspoken 2. >The Balance has replaced all their guides with direct links to speedhacks, rotation bots and splatoon. Game still has zero cheat detection. You're encouraged to submit falsified ACT logs to fflogs instead of actually raiding. >Saying the phrase "you should" to another player is bannable in all contexts except ERP. >Ganker threads have completely abandoned all pretense to being any different from /xivg/, thread contents consist of either explicit avatarfagging ERP or schizophrenics discussing how to find the guys from the zodiark trancer OF thread, none of which play the game anymore, and murder them IRL in revenge for a single negative comment about the game that was made in some youtube video in late 2023.
I am interested to see what the new final form of the final boss will be. Also I wanna see how stupid the mount is gonna look. Apparently it's the second boss.
Still waiting for your explanation for why Golbez needed to larp as someone else when nobody even knew who the original gay was especially after the voidsent shit happened
That was a pretty good raid conclusion. I was also shocked we got an actually voiced cutscene outside MSQ.
It does make me wonder if we are gonna get more pandaemonium stuff later on. They make a specific point that the jail is still out there somewhere needing to be guarded. Also those scientists now have the heart of sabik, which is a pretty fucking powerful object.
My hope is that in 6.55 we'll get a final Pandaemonium raid that's similar to Baldesion Arsenal or Delubrum Reginae Savage. I'd be pretty psyched if that happens.
>My hope is that in 6.55 we'll get a final Pandaemonium raid that's similar to Baldesion Arsenal or Delubrum Reginae Savage. I'd be pretty psyched if that happens.
why would you ever think that would happen?
So he and Laha and Eric are recreations, right? So why didn't Lahabrea remember (you)? I mean from the real them's perspective you just come in, solve Pandamonium, and are never heard from again.
>irrelevant
The events of Pandamonium are like the second or third most important thing to ever happen in his life.
4 days ago
Anonymous
Yeah, but the WoL didn't really contribute much to the emotional side. He was basically just the muscle.
Besides, thousands and thousands of years had passed since then and he had no reason to assume that the guy who killed all that stuff in Pandaemonium is this relatively wet behind the ears adventurer trying to stop him. It's understandable he wouldn't make the connection.
4 days ago
Anonymous
It's been thousands of years and he's performed arboricities by the boatload. You're just annoying gnat to crush at Praetorium. There's nothing to link you to the past.
He reintegrated his crazy motherfucker side, so I assume the body-hopping caused that side of him to be more prevalent in the long-term.
Based on the above, given Hephaistos didn't seem to care about people's identities too much (like him saying Elidibus was barely worth remembering), I guess he just didn't bother to hold fast to any memories of the WoL?
>I guess he just didn't bother to hold fast to any memories of the WoL?
WoL both saved him and beat him up. At the very place where he was experimenting with the evil alien object that he later tries to kill WoL with.
I know he ran himself ragged but unlike everybody else there's no explicit loss of his memories.
If it wasn't for Asmod and WoW killing itself I genuinely believe EW would've been the first expac with decreasing subs. Everything is just so underwhelming. 7.0 really is a make or break expansion.
I'm really hoping that EW has been lacking because they've been working on XVI. So with XVI done, hopefully 7.0 will be a step up.
They say Athena's influence is gone from the heart do it's safe. Allegedly
I thought that just meant that her memories are gone so she can't possess anyone anymore. That doesn't account for the effects of the stone itself which turned her crazy.
it's almost certain that the ancient hero, the statue in zero's domain, and Zero herself are connected/the same
this is where the time shenanigans might come into play but I am VERY skeptical of it
>Zeromus ends up brainjacking the Scions >WoL and Krile are the only ones that can hope to save them due to Echo immunity >and Tataru of course for some reason
Book it lads
I'm not saying it because muh fenlalas, I'm just spitballing ideas for why Krile is supposedly gonna be stepping up soon. Imagine this >CGI trailer where the WoL fights off the Scions who are overflowing with DAHKNESS
Normies would eat that shit up
Probably because before they made the cure it was considered a death sentence and after they made a cure, it's pretty treatable. The only real conflict would be stopping the scion from hurting others while not killing them until they can get a porxie to them.
Well yeah that's what I mean, if it had been before we made the cure, one of the Scions getting tempered would have "Oh fuck, s/he's dead". Now it'd be like the typical "Hero has to fight against his brainwashed companions while trying not to hurt them too much" episode.
Though actually, I guess we did get that with Thancred in ARR.
Probably because before they made the cure it was considered a death sentence and after they made a cure, it's pretty treatable. The only real conflict would be stopping the scion from hurting others while not killing them until they can get a porxie to them.
Long story short, some guy made a comic of his WoL reeing at Hydaelyn about how she killed the Ancients and, instead of teaming up with the Scions to fight her, he goes full edgelord and uses Zodiark powers to fight her.
discord clique dedicated to trying to curry favor against venat as a character and decrying her as evil, mainly because she was not written as evil and is not presented as evil, and most of the members in that clique are notorious fanboys for emet-selch with some just being garlemald fanboys chuffed that the story sidelined them
if you see somebody complaining about how the threads are ruined forever because of people that bring up zodiark trancers that's one of them that can't keep it in his pants, /mmog/ on /vg/ has a lot of knowledge about the clique
Extremely obsessed /vg/ schizo that puts any criticism of the game on a group of discord fags.
Three years from now when people are bitching about how 7.1 is fucking boring, this guy will still be here screaming about how he's trancing.
discord clique dedicated to trying to curry favor against venat as a character and decrying her as evil, mainly because she was not written as evil and is not presented as evil, and most of the members in that clique are notorious fanboys for emet-selch with some just being garlemald fanboys chuffed that the story sidelined them
if you see somebody complaining about how the threads are ruined forever because of people that bring up zodiark trancers that's one of them that can't keep it in his pants, /mmog/ on /vg/ has a lot of knowledge about the clique
Isn't part of the point that Venat's actions are pretty heinous even if she thought she was doing things for the 'greater good'?
yes and part of the same point is that venat herself doesn't view her actions as perfectly good, she views them as a necessary evil and preferable to total, unconditional extinction
4 days ago
Anonymous
So what's wrong with disagreeing with her conclusion that this was really the only way to save the planet, especially with the ambiguity around whatever the Ancients were planning to sacrifice to get souls out of Zodiark, the actual event that had her write off her own species?
4 days ago
Anonymous
You can disagree. You can even disagree ingame. But treating her as a horrible unredeemable monster is just a bit silly. And her plan was actually a longterm plan, all the Ascians had was a stop gap measure.
4 days ago
Anonymous
disagreeing with her conclusion is totally pointless due to the amaurotine mono-culture ensuring almost everyone was wrapped up in the suicide cult, venat barely got double-digits of followers in support of a counter-zodiark plan out of the total remaining population of amaurot
there is no other room for an alternative conclusion in the scenario given, the only person that disagreed with both was azem the player's ancient, who got sundered anyways
4 days ago
Anonymous
What I mean is, since we don't know what the third sacrifice entailed that freaked Venat out so bad (after she was okay with the first two,) it's hard to be entirely on her side that it was a step too far.
You can disagree. You can even disagree ingame. But treating her as a horrible unredeemable monster is just a bit silly. And her plan was actually a longterm plan, all the Ascians had was a stop gap measure.
The problem with her plan is that other than relying on (You) she didn't actually have a concrete solution to Meteion. She was hoping a solution would manifest (with prime hope being on you) and had a planetary escape plan via the moon set up in case one didn't.
Well we get a new criterion dungeon in 2 months. And blue mage.
sis your 6.45? your blue mage and relic quests?
Lets be honest, the relic quests are hardly quests. Farming uncapped tomestones is basically just doing what you've already been doing passively. And apparently the future steps are gonna follow suit.
>Farming uncapped tomestones is basically just doing what you've already been doing passively.
I don't interact with hunts at all outside of tomestone grinding tbh
Presumably no hardcore content in 6.5 though. Savage ends this patch, no ultimate next patch, and probably nothing else of real difficulty. Probably just the alliance raid and a final EX trial in terms of combat content. Maybe a hildebrand trial (Question is if Asura is coming before 7.0 or not, since we know she's coming).
>muh hardcore content
moron you got two whole ass Ultimates this expansion, and both were hard as shit. Raidmorons will quite literally never be satisfied.
I'm not even just talking hardcore content (I haven't done the ultimates), I'm talking midcore content too. The only thing that we know that's coming that's farmable in the next patch is the extreme. There may not be any other combat content worth running repeatedly besides that an the alliance raid. SB had the final zone of Eureka, ShB had the final zone of Bozja. And they at least kept you busy for a decent amount of time.
>Questions answered >Lahabread no longer a deadbeat dad >Thot slain >Elidibus gives us a proper farewell and reincarnates in peace
Pretty much every loose end was tied up.
>panda story ends decently >msq is still spinning its wheels but now it has out of place "funny" scenes golbez getting up after we kick his ass, going "no u", and do his plan anyway which realistically why didnt he do at any other point is fucking stupid. and this is the third patch in a row we have to teach zero about friendship jesus fucking christ if i see her dumbass tip her hat one more time.
whoever's writing this shit clearly has a boner for zero and needs to be fired for shitting up the msq with his waifu
>msq is still spinning its wheels but now it has out of place "funny" scenes
they're just setting up hildibrand becoming a part of the main cast in 7.0
i dunno can a chud game be kino?
probably not
cope wowchud
fuck off schizo
athena sex
To be Vrtra is to suffer
HAPPENING (in 4 months)
Oh are they actually gonna smash the light world and dark world together or something? I remember thinking that they could do that when they first mentioned it.
Does Vrtra have a boner for his sister or something?
>Tiamat & Bahamut
>Nidhogg & Ratatoskr
It's a family thing
>Hraes had to settle for an Elezen because all of his sisters were taken
Deepest lore.
12000 year old ancient dragon that counseled us in 6.0 has been butchered . tiamat is the most stable dragon.
dumb padding in the middle to make the post patch even more padding.
Remains best girl.
We could have
>nerdy archeology adventures with Y'shtola
>workout episodes with Sweat-stinien
>mercenary life with Thancred
>rabbit wrangler with Urianger
>school life episodes with the twins
But instead we got this. It ain't fair bros, 6.1 started so well.
Yeah they really should have done this instead of the cringe zero and void shit
I am so fucking disappointed we've never gotten more minigames like that time we played cards using Y'shtola's transformed body.
Also that Estinien scene finally convinced me for sure they legit just put fanart pics inside the game as cutscenes. I already had my suHispanicions with the ending of 6.0 resembling that pic of wounded WoL with the other Scions so much but this one was just literally copypasted without a real story reason lmao.
That’s official art though
Zenos posters are mentally ill and need to be lined up an shot. That includes whatever dev that keeps putting shit with him in MSQ
I have no idea why we did get a Zenos flashback when we were speaking about trust.
zzz
garledmald part of the story is padded dogshit. what the fuck.
not a skipper but that part took my skip virginity
im aorry but i do not give even a morsel of shit about gayleans
alpinaudalisaie in 6.0 garlemald took away my skip virginity.
Fuck off.
Uhh why didn't he just do this like two weeks ago instead of when WoL rolled in.
You gave the dragon her eye back
But, wasn't that Golbez' fault in the first place...?
I honestly can't remember what happened before this patch.
So the final trial battle in Patch 6.5 will be Zeromus! I knew it!
>Golbez was actually just some literal who mage in a ridiculous getup who went around beating up memoriates with his boyfriend
>also he died and his boyfriend is LARPing as him, Lyse-style
>Zeromus has nothing to do with Zero and doesn't even have a real model so it is guaranteed to die before 7.0
>6.5 will be more gag-riddled filler as we figure out how to beat up Zeromus
>Azdaja will likely be cured of her darkness AIDS so there's no stakes
>still no indication on what the fuck 7.0 is even going to be about
Gotta say it, bros. MSQ's a flop. Things are looking really fucking grim.
Seriously why is a huge chunk of the quests filled with "humor"?
>still no indication on what the fuck 7.0 is even going to be about
It will be whatever that envelope on Krile's desk is. Probably the homeland of the gleaner or whatever expedition Urianger and Thancred were talking about.
>hey wol you want to work for krile and be a slave not because you feel you should but because of muh adventure?
fucking retarded. i rather get kidnapped to the vanadiel shard.
>expecting anything good
lmao
This writer is going to rope lmao
That's fucked
>mr. garlean we're going to use the evil tower so you don't get eaten by monsters again
>AIEEEEEEEEEEE THIS CAN'T BE, IT'S GARLEAN TERRITORY YOU SHOULD BE PAYING ME FOR THE PRIVILEDGE, SAVE ME ZENOSMAN
fucking subhumans
and I thought we had hit rock bottom with the mhiggers
Should be VARISMAN.
>Short on ilvl.
>Manalis still adamantly refusing to drop my fucking job's gear.
>No gil.
I'll get to finish this patch a month from now.
tomes changed, the recent ones uncapped. just spam expert for gear
I CREATE
MANIPULATE
YOUR KIND INTO MY IMAGE
MY CHOSEN ONES
FOR YOU
THE TIME HAS COME
THE SUN IS SETTING
absolutely.
I'm just tired of these ancient gods and massive summonings and dragons all tracing back to the same two or three things I just want to do a little adventure and rescue a cursed frog or something it's all so tiresome
You WILL save the world every week
You WILL kill gods
You WILL party up with the scions
and you WILL be happy, WoL
This is why many people want a reset, it's all so tiresome to keep going over the same few points over and over and over, especially now that EW delved to the very source of it all.
>go treasure hunting
>INSTEAD youre forced to do a city survery for vtra to fix the economy while he has people who can do it instead
holy shit. moron.
>rescue a cursed frog
You have to let Pepe go, Anon. The accident wasn't your fault.
Yep. They fucked up.
End of 6.0 was the perfect chance to just cut it off. If they wanted to do something about the void they could have put it into Pandaemonium which is utterly fucking devoid of meaningful content.
The game has a fairly big bar to entry, even though it's easy to get to a max job, it's still a cunt to slog through FIVE games to get to the endgame. What they really needed to do was make an alternate, low-mid level adventure as a second MSQ that could can begin as a new player or after the first MSQ. This is just piling shit upon shit upon shit, then they'll whine "of course we need to put the level cap up! you have to go up from here!!" fucking why
The fact that you can run old duties unsynced is why old content is fucking dead
Everything post 6.0 feels boring, soulless and repetitive.
Couldn't they ditch the Scions like they said? Why did they have to come back.
Everything post 6.0 is filler to me. The story ended with 6.0, stop.
>Everything post 5.3 is filler to me. The story ended with 5.3, stop.
6.0 was good, cope and seethe ultra cucklord.
The game has yet to reach a high as high again as the WoL trial. Most of 6.0's MSQ is shit with terrible pacing.
If you don't consider 6.0 the peak then the ending sequence of 5.0 was kino instead bro. Basically everything post Innocence
But that's what I said. It's either 5.3 or 5.0.
The Scions are not the problem. The fact that they are going for another world ending plot, but this time just incredibly cliche is an issue. The few moments of character interaction we get are nice, but we didn't need Garleans teach Zero trust twice. I feel they are incredibly afraid of the MSQ being accused of having "no stakes" that the failed theatre writer tries to overcompensate.
>The Scions are not the problem
Yes they are. Fuck the scions, I want new party members I am so sick of them.
Lightbros?
Guys I need to cum, help me out
>finish the first fight of the Raid
>Athena shows up
>she's literally just the forums' fanfiction version of Venat where she's evil for no reason
kek
>no reason
Pretty sure the heart is why she went crazy
its wild that the Heart of Sabik is that fucking old.
The heart of sabik in JP is literally black auracite sabik, auracite makes people crazy like in ivalice
Yeah, they mentioned that a few fights after the point I commented on.
Speaking of which, was it just me or were these Raids braindead easy?
BEAT THE HEART OF
BEAT THE HEART OF
BEAT THE HEART OF
SABIIIIIIIIIK
Its also mentioned that the auracite didn't implant her desire to become a god into her head, it just brought what was already there to the forefront above all else. She was always crazy, deep inside.
Are we just supposed to assume that Lahabrea went wacko because he was handling the heart the whole time?
I don't think it's just the heart of sabik. I think he really did just go mad from thousands and thousands of years of committing horrible atrocities. After all, Elidibus basically went the same way (minus the cackling) and his handling of the heart was probably minimal.
>mfw 6.5 ends with Golbez still on the moon saying he needs more time for the next stage of his evil plan
God I hope not.
They needed to get to this point in 6.3 so 4 and 5 could expand upon it and lead into the expansion.
Panda raids were good and I liked the answers too. Very satisfied/10.
meta as fuck
Zeromus is going to get cucked before he does any fucking damage
This is the most toothless story arc yet, fucking Stormblood had a better setup than this
nice cutscene
lmao I just checked my own screenshots and it's there as well
Fuck man this game is ugly,. 7.0 can't come soon enough
What am I looking at
Diabros, any news of OUR BOI?
main villain of 7.0
please look forward to it
yay!
awww....
Absolutely none
he's a no show
Didn't we kill this bro three times already?
>Diabolos fags blown the fuck out
I just want round 4 with that chad
Based Diabro
too busy fucking scathach after he absorbed her to fight you.
Diabolos is Zenos' shard isn't he
diablos has character.
zenos is a vat grown chud character.
this msq was so shit i just went to my island to grind. holy shit.
he's still likely gonna get retconned into that though
Nobody actually cares about Zeromus.
Possibly the most boring soulless villain in all FF4.
Even Necros appearing randomly in FF9 was more memorable.
Because you're a FFVII orbiter and you only care about your gay lover Sephiroth.
>y-y-you're *boogeyman*
No, the story is dogshit and le epic FF references are boring.
Ravana is STILL the best Primal in the game. And guess what? He was a FF14 original.
>Ravana is STILL the best Primal in the game. And guess what? He was a FF14 original.
based and glorypilled
Ah, I see you are a fellow soul of war as well. Take wing!
Does anyone got the new PVP Series reqards? What are they?
WITH ABYSSAL DARK AND HEROS BLADE I BRING MY PEOPLE LIBERATION
Turns out when you base your MSQ on memberberries, it turns out kinda shit.
Who would've thunk.
Golbez is a WoW-tier villain
This is a WoW-tier story now
>The Jailer from World of Warcraft
>The Jannie
I thought Gankerauthry is the janny?
nah, he pretty clearly spelled out his motivation
always was, you were just blinded by the honeymoon period
Diabolos fags blown the fuck out
Golbez is Vrtra fags blown the fuck out
Zero being Zeromus fags blown the fuck out
And most importantly, hatfags
>Diabolos fags blown the fuck out
That's fine, he's not that important.
>Golbez is Vrtra fags blown the fuck out
That was a stupid theory.
>Zero being Zeromus fags blown the fuck out
Literally what is the point in her being called "Zero"
Why is she even here anyway
>still not on the MB
uhhh
map casuals
what are you doing????
Zero is so horny for wol.
She's so fucking BORING though.
Hilda? Right propa cunt m8, I love her
Alisaie? It's n-not like she has a crush on you or a-anything!!
Y'shtola? Mommy
Kan-E? Tradwife who wants to be an adventureslut
Raya-O? More like U-OOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Ryne? My peen
Gaia? Mwah mwah kissy my dicky
...Zero? ZERO? Zero fucking pERSONALITY that's what
cope
>Zero and Zeromus are two completely separate entities and their names being similar is just one big coincidence
I knew promoting the BRD job quest writer was a mistake but god fucking damn
>There was no connection between Zero and Zeromus.
>She doesn't turn into him, is not related to him, doesn't cause his appearance.
>Y'shtola legit just fucking guessed it was a FF4 plot and happened to name her after the villain for no reason.
>Zero is not anyone important, she's just some voidsent Zenos happened to like and that the crystal of light chose for no particular reason.
>The twist is that there's no twist.
Literally the only parts of this storyline that have been good are the meaningless fanservice scenes. Let that sink in.
I assume she is ゼロ in Japanese? The way she explained the nickname in English was a bit far fetched but made sense. How is my wife so fluent in English when she is speaking moon?
>I assume she is ゼロ in Japanese? T
according to the wikia yes
Modern Japanese just use zero instead of rei
Rei?
Yeah. Rei means zero. That’s why she piloted unit 00
they still occasionaly use rei, like when saying decimal numbers it'd be rei-ten-ichi for 0.1 instead of zero-ten-ichi
Zero is quite literally our shard from the 14th.
>They threw out Gaia, the void ark, and the entire ShB role questline for this
actual disaster
Well we are going to the first though, see
Probably for like 15 minutes though.
Miss me yet?
Yes. 6.x series is the worst the story has ever been, even worse than ARR titan leadup. Gomennasai, fujo-sama
Zero is Zeromus, the hero of eld is her
I bet that's going to be the twist
That's fucking retarded, how did Y'shtola know?
>How did Y'shtola know?
Dissidia, perhaps? She is the representative character for XIV after all.
If that is the case she should have recognized Golbeze.
Everyone who got sucked into Dissidia got their minds wiped afterwards. And it makes no sense that Y'shtola would recognize someone that doesn't even look like anyone she met during that.
>zero talking about friends
>you get a flashback to zenos
this is going to make so many people butthurt again
the final time we fight Themis/Elidibus to me was very emotional.
this bro has the best character in the setting but everyone just talks about Emet.
Zodiark Trance CHADS won
>Hack that sunk his own theater company can't write a storyline for shit
I'm shocked. SHOCKED!
Man I wonder how butthurt everyone will get when Yshtola goes back to the First and stays with Runar
Not as butthurt as the furfags that heard the devs and the VA straight up say Runar doesn't love her and yet have spent a whole year now desperately trying to keep that bait alive.
>stays with Runar
Why are NTR gays like this.
>NTR
I don't give a shit about the cat, so how is it NTR?
>NTR
>Cheating
Shipfags deserve to be burned alive
lol so wait there's a Golbez trial but he just dusts himself off and the patch ends?
He says the fight didn't count and then proceeds with his plan while everyone watches him do it
jrpg moment
No, you beat him but he accomplishes his plan anyways so you run away and he stays there.
>The real reason she was called Zero, because she had Zero relevance on the actual plot.
Bravo
i still think that her true name is Cecil/Cecilia, but i haven't played this new patch so i don't know what the deal is with the flashback when you see Golbez unmasked with the other person and they mention Baron
The highlander is a guy named Durante. Golbez was originally a mage who looked exactly as he does now but somehow died so Durante is now LARPing as Golbez.
BY MY GUIDING HAND
PERFECTED WE STAND
I want to FUCK Athena and have her gaze at me the way she does
How was anyone able to breathe on le red moon? There were no Lopporits there.
Did anyone spot Y'shtola and Estinien after the MSQ? They usually put them somewhere in the overworld, but I couldn't find either time time.
They're fucking
She's cheating on WoL with the big long dragoon spear
>have 5 patches to build up to the next expansion
>Instead of doing something interesting they spin their wheels for 4 of them
>Give the players absolutely nothing to go on or look forward to
>Instead of doing something interesting they spin their wheels for 4 of them
This is what’s so especially maddening. They couldn’t even think of a mildly interesting self contained story that ends up being a filler arc. It’s just filler all the way down
I wouldn't mind the filler as much if they would at least tell us where 7.0 is heading, let me look forward to the new world, another shard, or whatever. With the way they've gone about it the discussion starts and ends at "meh, who knows" so even trying to talk about it is pointless. We all know how much they love to subvert expectations so it's a waste of time to take shots in the dark.
What did you expect after they made the MSQ into “It’s Golbez, please clap” in 6.1?
I did in fact clap, because Golbez is fucking great, even here.
you gays are never happy, and you look back on the things you weren't happy about like you actually liked it.
its a perpetual fucking cycle with you remedials.
It's because they've framed it as filler anon, they keep everything a secret so that the player has no clue where things are heading and then they keep stacking more filler patches on top of filler patches while not explaining anything. Let's not forget they setup this exact scenario in Shadowbringers and have somehow forgotten about it and all the characters involved.
MSQ between expansions has always been heavily padded filler, except for sometimes some paperthin plot in .3, you all should've been getting angry at it with me back in ARR, among other things.
>MSQ between expansions has always been heavily padded filler
No it isn't. In a normal expansion patches 1 through 3 are the second ending to the expansion while patches 4 and 5 are buildup to the next expansion. Generally patch 1 is true filler while 2 and 3 are very story heavy, meanwhile patch 4 is mysterious (yet still gives direction) and patch 5 is a direct lead in. What makes this even sillier is that during patch 4 the trailer for the next expansion is shown of, this means that patch 4 should in theory give players enough information to go on so that the trailer isn't completely without context.
Now this time around they said they aren't doing the same thing, they are treating ALL 5 patches as a lead in to the next expansion. To most people this sounded great, cool they are going to spend 5 patches building up to the next expansion that's amazing they can do so many fun things with it. What we got was nothing of the sort, we've basically been fed four straight .1 patches of true filler.
between X.3 and the next expansion I would agree. This time it has been the case from 6.1 to 7.0, that's way too much
>Golbez is fucking great, even here.
Yeah my favorite part was when he sat on the moon doing nothing for 2 IRL years and ended every patch with “mwahaha now my TRUE plan will begin”
>Golbez actually turns into a manlet when you beat him
*tips fedora*
>*tips fedora*
*tips fedora*
>*tips fedora*
*tips fedora*
>*tips fedora*
*tips fedora*
>*tips fedora*
>keep dragging out the MSQ because i feel the need to keep leveling new jobs
how do i do it bros? i just want to pick a job and stick with it through to 6.0
by leveling them all
i'll pick for you
which role?
what do you like to do?
how do you like to spend resources?
how many buttons do you want to press?
how useful do you want to be in that role?
ideally tank or dps (i was a melee dps player in wow, but i’m really enjoying BLU and i also don’t hate MCH so far at lvl45)
i’m casual as fuck, msq, blu, eureka, potd, frontlines, duty roulette
i’m fine with resource building and spending but i despise the buff/debuff maintenance style of DRG
i’m honestly fine with pressing a lot of buttons or not a lot of buttons as long as the rotation is solidly designed (i don’t really have a definition of good design but i don’t like the design of DRG)
i’d prefer to have a lot of good utility instead of being selfish
WAR
>i’m fine with resource building and spending but i despise the buff/debuff maintenance style of DRG
play gnb, pld, mch, smn or blm
the thing is i'd suggest war but if you hate buff maintenance then don't, i'd also suggest reaper but same thing, you need to apply a debuff constantly
>You are the hero that saved the world
>Need to do some shit to save the world again
>"Uhhh but you might hurt the Garlean's feelings. You know, the feelings of those who invaded and murdered your people for years? Go convince some literal who's"
I don't give a fuck about Garleans. Why can't we just do what is needed? They should be happy we did not genocide them.
It's incredibly blatant padding, it actually took me out of the game
At this point the warrior of light should basically be like a Spectre in Mass effect.
But there's no Council that can revoke your status.
>W-we gotta ask the hecking Forum for PERMISSION!
I get it's about being polite and all but come the fuck on
>Uhhh, as Scions we "officially" disbanded so now we're not really an organization that can make petitions like that.
But Alphinaud said that all the important people had already been notified that disbanding was justa cover. F'lhammin even sent letters around asking for the continued support of everyone who's helped us along the way. Are you fucking telling me the Sharlayan forum and the Contingent are NOT in the list of allies they wrote to?
I'm sorry my WoL is chaotic good, if they pissed him off, heads would literally roll (Reaper main)
Wait did they go live before the weekly reset this time?
There is the weekly reset and the daily reset, it always comes up after the weekly but before the daily.
you know you would
Uh that's a child
absolutely, living onahole
Once again i am reminded of how fucking dogshit this game feels without noclippy/xivalexander.
What was the point of obscuring the identity of the original Golbez? Who can they possibly reveal it to be that would matter or surprise anyone?
Remember the pointless Lyse/Yda twist? This is the same except it manages to be even more retarded and nonsensical.
another Ardbert looking guy, AKA our shard on this world.
I expected white hair guy to be Cecil but instead he's just some dude named Durante and Golbez was a...mute spellcaster that could speak to him...telepathically? Why would they obscure his vocalizations? Were one patch away from this story being over and moving on to the next expansion what the FUCK is going on?
there's some big twist coming here.
they need to hide both appearance AND voice.
Isn't Durante just Golbez after he took his dead friend's armor?
Yes
Whoever Golbez was before he died cannot be so important that it'll blow us all away
>start downloading the patch
>my computer starts spazzing out, my mouse controls lock up while my cursor flies around the screen, windows files start opening, and my tab highlights like it's asking for a prompt
>restart and try to open back up my session, it starts spazzing again
>disconnect from the internet, unplug my mouse, it still takes like ten minutes for my mousepad to properly work
So is there a hair stuck somewhere or did Yoshida give me aids.
So since they're gonna show the new expansion before 6.5, will it have something to do with Zeromus making portals between reflections, or is it just gonna be another continent like everyone expects?
At this point I have no idea, they never outright spoil the expansion in .4 patches but they always give you enough to go on so that when they show the trailer it makes sense. This time around they namedropped Zeromus and that's it. The next expansion could be literally anywhere.
During your dramatic 1v1 against a Zero possessed Zeromus, the scions begin falling down into comas again. Zeromus walks off and you're left to go to the new expansion to save them.
An hero incoming
Tataru's side quest shit keeps being kino.
Hey look it's the tortured souls of four kids that got turned into spaghetti inside a giant robot!
I literally hate all of those characters except Gaius
Fuck Au'ra how dare they taint the OG Imperial Legatus with fucking clown Vegeta hair
LOOK AT HOW GOOFY IT ACTUALLY IS
Damn, they really whitewashed him huh?
Even in ARR Gaius was 'that guy who treats non-Garleans well and wants to conquer Eorzea for their own good', it's just that the game is solidly in the 'Imperialism bad' camp.
>and wants to conquer Eorzea for their own good', it's just that the game is solidly in the 'Imperialism bad' camp.
Well it's very hard to argue butchering civilians and destroying their homes, and monuments, is for their own good after all
Gaius isn't the guy who butchers civilians for no reason. Though he does destroy their cultures, mainly because he bought into that whole "Your gods are Eikons and allowing you to observe your culture just encourages you to summon Eikons which causes all the problems in the world" propaganda.
That should've been obvious when he went WHAT HOW COULD MY COUNTRYMENT DO SUCH DEHispanicABLE THINGS TO YOU, AND YOUR FAMILY when the half Garlean chick revealed her backstory
Gaius' whole thing is he's an idealistic retard who thought his position as legatus would make sure there wasn't any corruption beneath him
And lol, lmao, rofl even
bro looks hella out of place
>XIV will end with Gaius giving you his blessing to marry his daughter
Good ending.
azdaja won't even fucking die, that's how lame and low stakes this arc is
>check every server for cheap early crafted gear
>everything is 5-10 mil with some 3 mil sprinkled in there
>check one last server
>everything is 700k-1.5 mil already
what
Some people are actually retarded and think selling their item NOW is worth cutting their profits by 90%.
I mean to be quite frank here, their stuff just sold to me and all the other server's stuff is going to eventually drop down to that price over the course of 24 hours
Those items cost 250-400k to make, it's hardly worth the effort for someone to make that little profit in the early hours of day 1 of a new patch. It's not about being able to sell one item for miniscule profits, it's about being able to churn out a large amount for maximum profits. Raid patches like this are a gold rush for crafters, you want to make as much money as possible in this first week before the RMT bots take over.
You WILL stick your dick in crazy.
is she a parasite eve reference?
No. Eve was completely different in the games. Don't know about the books.
so what was her whole deal?
she must be related to Venat, same eyes.
I want to give Eric a half simbling
Her eyes scare the fuck out of me. I hope she didn't always look like that.
She found Ultima's auracite and decided to become a goddess by using her son as a vesssel.
youd think that between the era of the ancients and now that people would quit fucking picking up things from outer space
everything from offworld in the ff14 universe is apparently a goddamn doomsday device
I was kinda shocked that the WoL just let that scientist walk off with the heart of sabik. Not only is it basically a nuclear battery in terms of power, it also fucks with the minds of those who possess it. Why aren't we destroying it?
As a side note, I thought it was odd that we basically witness Lahabrea's villain origin story and then see Elidibus talk about how he'll be there to right Lahabrea if he goes off course (which he most certainly does not) and then the WoL smiles like it's a very heartwarming moment and not depressing dramatic irony.
No point telling the fake he failed horribly, let sweet farewells stay sweet
No, I'm talking about when you go back to the past for the lsat time. Present Day elidibus knows full well he failed, at least by virtue of dying at your hand.
They say Athena's influence is gone from the heart do it's safe. Allegedly
It's still Auracite though. Didn't Ultima herself shit them out and pass them around to influence thoughts and twist people around?
Bring the Ascians back this Golbez shit is cringemax
Why didn't they just bring the aether tanks to the moon instead of using the tower?
Why didn't they just hop into the void ark and open a portal to the void?
Because this whole fucking plotline has just been people acting stupid and doing unnecessary things for the sake of the plot progressing as it has to instead of how it logically should. Both this patch and 6.3 would have been just a fraction of it's duration if someone had just went "Uhhh, are you sure sensing Azdaja all the way in Garlemald for only one second isn't meant to be some kind of bait to distract us?".
>Man tries to become a god
>Holy shit so based, literally me, he deserves to become a god
>Woman tries to become a god
>God fuck this bitch, what a shit villian, how did they fuck up a character this badly
Why is the community like this
Athena is literally just "What if Venat wasn't benevolent" and nobody except for Zodiark Trancers hates Venat even though what she did was arguable.
Women always have to be a cunt about it
Why is Golbez' real name Durante and not Theodore?
because we are in the cringezone
[Spoiler]Durante[/spoiler] is Dante Alighieri's actual first name
>p11 and p12 music
Based soken delivered again
Way better than the eden finale
I heavily doubt Soken had anything to do with these
He apprently tweeted simething about them a minute ago. Who knows. I bet it’s the otherguy but he’s still doing sound support.
So what happens in Pandaemonium?
>ice bro eats some people's souls
>Athena shows up and tells you she wants to become god
>recreates the Bread Man and Eric because they gotta be here somehow
>fight giant Nier building motherfucker
>recreates Elidibus so you can fight him and see what he looks like when he transforms normally
>Elidibus breaks free of mind control
>fight moth mommy
So Laha, Eric, and Elidibus in the last tier are all just recreations? What happens after you beat Athena? Why did Pandaemonium appear in the present to begin with? How did Athena escape being sundered?
she horcrux'd into the heart of sabik
How did that stop her from being sundered?
It didn't. Her soul wasn't in the heart, just her memories. She implanted her memories upon the scientist guy who had Eric's soul just like she implanted Eric and Lahabrea's memories on random souls in the aetherial sea.
No, I mean why didn't the Heart of Sabik get sundered too? As we see with the ruins on the First, even physical objects were sundered and split over into the shards. So there should be an Athena on every shard?
In fact why does Athena only pop out of the Heart now?
Well I suppose its possible there's a heart of sabik on every shard, possibly even containing her memories. Probably doesn't affect the one on the source though since I don't think non-soul things get reduced into lesser selves.
Seems that circumstances finally aligned for her memories to come in contact with Eric's soul. You could say it's a coincidence even that Eric happened to reincarnate as an aetherial scholar in the same generation that the WoL is doing all their heroing and the heart of sabik ends up in Azys La forgotten til he finds it.
I mean some Ancients were not Sundered so I guess things under certain conditions may stay whole too.
Laha and Eric are just recreations, it appears that she actually did manage to pull Elidibus out of the lifestream (more impressive that she apparently pulled him from the first to the source).
It wasn't actually pandaemonium, it was just a physical recreation for her experiments. The real Pandaemonium is still out there somewhere.
She didn't escape, she herself is technically a recreation like Lahabrea and Eric. She implanted her memories into the heart of sabik which transfered to the scientist guy when he found it in azys la.
queue for new shatter!
>he's playing pvp
LMAO LOOK AT THIS RETARD AHAHHAHAHAHAHAH
Feels good to have skipped every single CS since they revealed Golbez.
qrd on the story? is it worth resubbing for?
Yes
No
Golbez is a dude named Durante that traveled with a mute magician that was the original Golbez and Durante took his name after he died
Golbez's plan all along was to let Azdaja out of her containment and let her turn into a powerful void-fiend infused with the power of Zodiark's shard on the 13th moon. so Azdaja turns into Zeromus
WoL and friends return to the first to figure out what to do to beat Zeromus, and Y'shtola suggests using Light aether and mentions that there's a whole shard full of Light aether, so 6.5 will involve the first
> Golbez's plan all along was to let Azdaja out of her containment and let her turn into a powerful void-fiend
Didn’t he have literally thousands of years to do this? Why is he doing it now?
So much for killing el rotador 4
>Azdaja LITERALLY zodiark trances.
You guys better not act like you're her friend next patch.
genocide all garleans
simple as
>late shadowbabbies and endfetuses doing ARR, HW, SB, ShB post patch fillers: this is fine!
>late shadowbabbies and endfetuses doing EW post-patch filler: this is shit!
>1 patch of filler is the same as 4 patches of filler
5.1 and 5.2 were absolutely pure filter and added fuck all to 5.3
>1 patch
the entirety of ARR's post-msq was filler up until .55. HW's .1, .2 and .4 were filler. All post-MSQ shit in SB was filler save .5 and ShB was filler until .3.
Stormblood patch stories were decent. Heavensward and Shadowbringers had a memorable climax in their x.3 patches that are, to this day, considered some of the peak moments of the game's story.
Endwalker degenerating to post-ARR quality of storytelling is unacceptable when you take into account that they have an entire decade of experience writing for this game and aren't a bunch of amateurs winging it like they used to be.
new raid gear looks awful, has the savage mount been datamined yet?
thatll decide if i resub
haha good joke anon
BLU supposedly gets a transforming shadow keeper mount so that's something at least
Its not a joke
How
What
Why
H
HOW has this happened
What IS this game
omg the heckin axolotlarino!!!
Do you like axolotls?
does Zero fucking die or not
MSQ was kinda lame, still love Shtola tho.
Everybody loves Y'shtola.
She's LITERALLY the only one keeping this storyline from stagnating because no one else is offering any solutions. God forbid we had actually relied on Vrtra or Zero to know what to do.
It's not like we know anyone else from the void who would happen to be standing around, maybe in a bar somewhere, waiting to be asked questions.
oh wait
>It's not like we know anyone else from the void who would happen to be standing around, maybe in a bar somewhere, waiting to be asked questions.
The best part is she actually knows Ukulele as well so she should be able to say "why don't we ask the weird kid with the mask?".
I am sorry to bother you guys do you have an album with her perchance
I just have a huge Y'shtola folder with some in engine pictures.
Anon it would be extremely beneficial if you uploaded it somewhere...like, right now
Because Ukelele only knows how to open portals to the Thirteenth, and can't do it without his elf friend's help. Which means we can't bring him to the Source to help because if we bring him alone he can't do anything and if we just open a portal from the First to the Thirteenth we can't get done the shit we need to do. So the only reason he could actually help is if in 6.5 the solution is "WoL, could you go alone to the First and then into the Thirteenth and do everything by yourself?"
>Open portal to the Thirteenth from the First
>Go to the Thirteenth
>Enter portal from the Thirteenth to the Source
>You're now on the Source from the First
Ok so are we jumping on the moon of the First or of the Thirteenth without using a teleporter?
You could go to the moon of the First first or go to it through the Void or take a portal there from the Source.
Damn anon, your legs must be fucking RIGID to be able to do that without a teleporter.
You could just teleport there? I mean Unukalhai's portals clearly don't all open to the same location.
>Favourite writer and fanbase nerdy cat knows anything besides getting blinded in ateleport
How the fuck do we still not have gearing recommendations? The autists have been on the game for over 6 hours and counting.
????
Just get all the ilvl 640 crafted gear and meld it
Because it’s the same every patch?
What did he mean by this?
You look like a skinny little brown fuckboy
TLDR on panda finale?
I gotta be honest, the Pandaemonium story ending is kinda lamer than what I thought it would be, and all those theories people made were way more fun than what we got
Elidibus isn't giga dead like Venat, but his voiced ending cutscene was really nice
Lahabrea is actually the same lahabrea from ARR, not hijacked by Athena or anything
Athena is just evil and got the heart of sabik from somewhere
Eric is claudien's unsundered soul which was obvious but I liked his ending
damn i'm at work.....also do i really need the crafted gear to do savage? I didn't sub at all so i don't have my crafters geared to be able to make it.
>do i really need the crafted gear to do savage?
yes, but price will drop a lot before raid release
You have a fucking week to get it
Stop being lazy
Sex with buns.
>p12 theme is a combination of every one of the pandaemonium themes
KINO
Dissapointing give me ff2 pandemonium theme as final boss fight music
>literally
>fucking
>NOTHING
>to do with FFII Pandaemonium
>OMG THIS MSQ SUCKS BECAUSE IT'S APING OFF OF FF4
>UGGHHHH PANDAEMONIUM DIDN'T APE HARD ENOUGH OFF OF FF2.....
?????
I didn't say the first part though?? I like FFIV
No
One
Fucking
Cares
Clapistani
It's
An
Original
Content
Raid
Good FF2 was shit
Themis is David bowie but good boy
Good mounts in this game
>Omega
>Eden
>Ramuh
>Ozma
>Cerberus
>Landerwaffe
>Rathalos
>Cruise Chaser
>Chocobo with creative barding combination
That is all.
>No Phoinix
>No SERPENT PHOENIX
They suck shit. They're so bad.
bro you like ramuh and rathalos
Yes. They're based.
Sure you did buddy.
Ramuh mount looks retarded. I passed on it during the clears since it was the last of my priorities during that tier.
>not winning the mount and deleting the item to prevent people from even getting it
The people i was clearing it with deserved it after we suffered through pf lr strats.
>wanting anything from the second worst FF game
Stop trying to get ff2 things into the game
Omega>Panda>Eden>Coils>Alexander
molten core>Omega>Panda>Eden>Coils>Alexander
>My mom's fire elemental having a shit fit
>Better than actual stories
No
blackrock mountain has a better story than all of those raids, it just isn’t force fed to you
blackrock mountain? yes
literal who fire elemental in the basement? no
molten core is intrinsically tied to half of blackrock mountains overarching story, the better half too
>”Never once were you truly alive”
Jesus
>We went from Fujokawa to someone even worse at writing
so glad I stopped playing
>Golbez is just some literal who
>No closure for the four fiends who are just crystal'd forever
Literally fucking DROPPED what a waste of fucking time
>new chainsaw man chapter was mid
>new patch was mid
Japan........has fallen
>Demon Slayer absolutely fucking killing it
If you say so
that manga is over dough
chainsoiman has always been shit
Patch storylines aren't ever really that great to begin with, they're to bridge expats
And that's exactly why people are annoyed, we've gone through 4 patches and the bridge hasn't even been conceptualized.
Would you prefer another SB/ShB situation where they toss out the bridge immediately?
>SB - Uh this Black Rose bio weapon is going to fuck everyone up! Oh just kidding that has nothing to do with the actual expansion plot
>ShB - These tempering towers are going to fuck everyone up! Oh just kidding we resolved that entire plot 5 minutes into the expac, you can forget all of that happened
Yes, because those patches came in .4, after we went through patches 1 through 3 that continued and finalized the previous expansion on amazingly high notes.
>Fandanny shows up and says he wants to destroy the world
>Golbez twiddles his thumbs for 4 patches
https://ffxivcollect.com/mounts/324
it better be a 2-seater
UUUUUUUUUOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Bro for real
I'm not even joking, what the fuck were they thinking? What the hell??
>crafted especially for children
well well well the devs are now pandering to diaperfells and calling the playerbase a bunch of children, about as subtle as a brick to the face
abyssos mount is the best in the game
What's it look like?
Inferior reskin of O4S mount combine with the worst "collect em all" mount
Unless you like tango
>EX series started good
>End was dogshit
>Raid started shit
>Ended shit
Sasuga FF XIV
raid ended kino
>The twist was there was no twist
do you expect everything to have a twist?
where was the twist supposed to be?
I didn't but only because I'm just used to FF XIV's writing being so fucking bad that things are just as they seem
Pandemonium was just a final fart of Fujokawa's garbage fujoshi shit pandering and nothing else
>Fujokawa
I doubt it's her. she was the main writer, and they tend to give side stuff to other writers
why is it that everyone now expects a twist and/or thinks a story needs a plot twist to be good?
Myths of the Realm > Panda
The dungeon was nice at least
>cute animals
>weird looking bosses
Pretty shit mechanically, though.
Except the bear, the intensity ramped up nicely even if it was easy
>you know what's an oppressive fucking unfun to play against class in pvp that needs to get ripped apart?
>Bard. Just fucking kill the class.
Who are you quoting? Who complains about fucking bard
No one does, that's the thing
So why did they have to kill my boy
That's the only reasonable explanation for such an aggressive nerf to a skill that isnt even that powerful
>damage, silence duration AND RANGE reduced
Did yoshit piss get dumpstered by a chad bard one time too many or something
>Another shitty patch with terrible story.
>In the expansion with the worst combat and content.
It's called Endwalker because you end your subscription and walk away.
Literally me after Barbariccia
Everything I've read since then is that it's just a Zero mary sue wank fest
>6.0 gives you perfect fap material with Venat and a fitting end to the story with a THE END to boot
>People STILL keep playing after the game is obviously over
You get what you deserve.
I fell for the meme that CBU3 had finally learned how to write an interesting story.
Reality is that Shadowbringers still had padding, and Endwalker had even more, so even the peaks of this game's storytelling were a bit flawed. I guess my expectation was that at least they'd maintain this quality of writing instead of rapidly degenerating into ARR quality once more.
If you didn't quit before SHB, you're part of the problem.
>black bunny boy talking about a homecoming
He's gonna be coming with us in 7.0 isn't he? Of course he is. Meanwhile the only female presence will be Krile and Alisaie. I guess fujos win again.
>Krile and Alisaie
I see no problem here
Krile is best, I am going to marry her.
Thancred and Urianger seem to be set as well. And since they were speaking of Archons Y'shtola should be in that as well.
Y'shtola will come but will be immediately incapacitated for the duration like in SB.
>He's gonna be coming with us in 7.0 isn't he?
No, he'll be there already and we'll meet up there and maybe he'll help around with some stuff but be there largely for his own reasons.
>Golbez had to LARP as a totally different person even after becoming a voidsent because...he just did ok
I'm impressed that they somehow made a character worse than the old Scions. Zero is probably going to stick with us too.
>Zero is probably going to stick with us too.
She is literally the new writer's favorite character so yeah enjoy that shit being shoved down your throat along with G'raha
>Exarch
Fucking based
>Graha
Why is this gay cat cocklusting my WoL fuck off aieeee
How can the same character be such varying degrees of based and horrible
yes, of course she's staying, didn't they add her to the trust system?
>Zero is just a literal who
>Golbez is just a literal who
At some point "The surprise is there was no surprise" is worse than a predictable twist
I can't believe they actually had the gall to spawn zeromus and then told us to fuck off until the next patch.
It also infuriates me that we domed and kicked Golbez's ass and he pulled the shitty JRPG "HAHA NO, you don't win even though you won!"
I don't know if this guy is going to drop a bombshell in 6.5 but I highly doubt it and worry about how the next expansion's story is going to go, if they fuck up Krile's development I will riot.
The pace of this plot has been so bad it makes me feel like we might get a patch 6.6 before the expansion.
>raid story good
>MSQ bad
Usually it's the opposite, but it's the same writer for both.
Why don't they just make a good expansion like HW again
t. shadowbabb
Because the HW team is making XVI.
Why don't they just make a good MMO like FFXI again
Zodiark....
guys
bros!...
TRAAANNNCCEEE!!!!
>FFXI - Full ass multi-expac story that doesn't rely on previous games lore or overt references at ALL
>FF XIV - DUDE, REMEMBER -THIS- OLDER FF PLOT BUT WITH SLIGHTLY SUBVERTED EXPECTATIONS LIKE E12 Granny Grape Tree Tits???
What went wrong
>Fanfest announcement.
>"We have publicly executed Hiroi and his decapitated head now adorns the entrance to CBU3 headquarters as an example."
>"Now that we're done with XVI we're also bringing Maehiro back to write 7.0."
I can dream.
this but Matsuno should write 7.0
no way fag. hes a washed up shitter too .
Agreed. You fags stole my exploratory content 3, I force Matsuno to write your waifus
Every woman in Tactics Ogre and FF12 is better written than the best female characters in XIV, that's hardly a curse.
Designing complex jobs with a diversity of gameplay styles is not possible for what Square Enix is trying to do which is:
>Add jobs every expansion to hype people up.
>Continue having a tiny job design team.
Did anyone clear the ex version of the trial yet?
How hard is it?
>Didn't need extra help to beat the shit of a half formed Zodiark
>Will need the First's light for Zeromus
We need an excuse to remind people Ryne exists, you know because Fujokawa wrote them out of the story
To be fair the half formed Zodiark was being piloted by a dumbass and basically killed himself. Full power Z would shit on everything including the First's light regardless.
7.0 is not going to have a good story you retards. "FFXIV Season 2" is a huge meme, all you're going to get is epic SNES/PS1 JRPG references bereft of all context that made them cool back in the day.
By 9.0 we'll be unironically tagging along with Cloud to fight Sephiroth while still dealing with Y'shtola's complete lack of a personality, Graha's uwu fanboy flanderization, and shitty comic relief scenes that jarringly destroy all sense of dramatic tension. You know why we ended this way? Because FFXIV is written purely on the basis of the fandom's reaction and if they write off any of the shitty, stale scions people are going to riot. It's over.
What the fuck is wrong with this place expecting expansion tier writing from mid expansion patches???
They literally told us to expect nothing until 7.0 and you people cry about it anyways
I'm expecting a plot that's not complete dogshit terrible
EW story was also ass, don't @ me
Yoshida also said "Expect a big fucking event that will shake up the foundations of the setting and open new possibilites in these patches" and so far the only things that have happened are jack and shit.
>What the fuck is wrong with this place noticing that the post-expansion patches are the worst-written since ARR?
>They literally told us the patches would be dogshit, and that's a good thing!
Yoshida trancin' hard over here.
>They literally told us to expect nothing until 7.0 and you people cry about it anyways
Maybe don't waste the Void setting on post MSQ shit writers then
>the entire Raid tier was just Praetorium II: Electric Boogaloo
How very glib
So…. 7.0 its going to be about the consequences of the merging, right?
After EW's ""apocalypse"" was localized to 2 fucking places in the entire world I have 0 expectations of anything that will ever be represented in the game world lmao
>SHITjita RAT.
>Excited for garbage.
Many such cases!
>The patches are SUPPOSED to be shit!!!
When are fanboys going to stop with the apologia for every single mistake the FFXIV devs make? Do you guys think the game is going to just cease to exist instantly if you admit the 6.X story has been extremely disappointing?
>every interesting mystery from ARR is slowly being answered in the most banal of ways
I don't like this one bit. Heart of Sabik being alien tech from Ultima or her race is DOUBLY RETARDED CONSIDERING METEION MOST LIKELY KILLED THEM OR THEY ULTIMA'D THE WHOLE PLANET
I feel like Endwalker completely obliterated my interest in the lore by just rushing through every single mystery in the setting and giving it the most banal and boring answers possible.
I completely checked out the moment it turned out the twelve are just some guys from Elpis.
Same exact feelings.
Heart of Sabik is from Ultima, as in Dalmasca Ultima?
But the Heart of Sabik was present in Ancient times, no?
The implication is that the actual being Ultima didn't get to the planet until after the sundering, whereas sabik was something from the same planet that was discovered by the Ancients
So the ultima race might be relevant later on too who knows
I forget, when was there specifically implication that Ultima arrived after the sundering? I'm sure you are right, I just can't remember when it was said.
The fact that the not-tactics story is just pre-garlean history?
Did ultima specifically land during the backstory or was that just when she was possibly found again?
Gotcha. Guess it's likely then another of her race reached etheirys then.
Well we don't know how strong those urges were. They were definitely there but they might have just been a stronger than usual "what if?". Like Hesperos wasn't insane in his devotion to Lahabrea, he presumably had a healthy respect that was twisted into mad obssession. It's possible that if she had never interacted with the crystal, she wouldn't have gone full eugenics mode.
>I forget, when was there specifically implication that Ultima arrived after the sundering?
It was said during the Ivalice raids that it was summoned from somewhere by St. Ajora, not as a primal, but pulled from somewhere else and then was imbued with faith to become a primal.
>there are unironically people out there who thought the Garlemorons were worse than the Ala Mhigans
They're both conquered, broken people, but Ala Mhigo took up less screen time with their gibs so I tolerate them more than garloids. Plus, Raubahn is their new leader so they can only improve with time. Snow monkies will always have a chip on their shoulder.
They are. Hell, they're a big reason with the ala mhigans were bad.
What was the final raid tier like? Was Athena kino?
Best final tier fight of the raid series.
Yeah. A huge step up from the shit fest that eden 12 was
>Zero WASN'T Zeromus
Laughing at all you dumb morons who thought otherwise
you gays don't work?
How do they keep managing to make every scythe look like oversized and overdesigned garbage?
They better not fuck up the raid scythe
where are the relic and savage datamines
>Octomammoth doesn't lose limbs as it's health lowers
soulless.
>Zero connects the dots and realizes a friend is someone you can trust
>the moment she says this the WoL looks to the sky and thinks of Zenos' final moments at the ass end of space
>Get two weeks worth of island currency
>Immediately skip a level
Pssshh... nothin personel yoship
The fuck is a heart of sabik???
All I know is that it beats
White auracite
Ligma sabik.
>raid minion is athena instead of elidibus
I am mildly upset.
I kinda like that we actually have to go get permission to take stupid amounts of aether from people's territories, and then use them as a Voidsent summoning ritual
Just taking what we want would make us corrupt assholes, even if the way they handled it was too blatantly filler
>By 9.0 we'll be unironically tagging along with Cloud to fight Sephiroth while still dealing with Y'shtola's complete lack of a personality, Graha's uwu fanboy flanderization, and shitty comic relief scenes that jarringly destroy all sense of dramatic tension. You know why we ended this way? Because FFXIV is written purely on the basis of the fandom's reaction and if they write off any of the shitty, stale scions people are going to riot. It's over.
kys gay. i just cutscene skipped that trash padding.
Why does Ganker hate the patch? Are we being raided by zodiark trancers???
We need to shitpost about the game or the jannies are going to delete it. Thats why I am doing nothing but calling it bad while talking about it
Patch was great
its already a flop
>Viera get the Windcaller before hrothgar do
>*is kino incarnate in your path*
I kneel, Elidibussy
>It's 8.0.
>All future world zones have been officially cancelled and the patch cycle extended to 6 months.
>Expansion consists of just a lobby city from which you queue to MSQ scenarios and watch cutscenes.
>Classes are so utterly identical that anons now talk about Endwalker as the good old days when jobs still had some identity.
>Dungeons are only released on alliance raid patches as "catch-up content" so that the developers can focus on programming trusts so they can participate in the DJ venue endgame.
>MSQ consists entirely of references to old Square Enix games. Cloud teaming up with Zero to fight Sephiroth is treated as the most "kino" moment of the whole expansion by slack-jawed Anons who are still trying to convince you this is one of the best stories to ever grace videogames.
>Alliance raid is a crossover with Forspoken 2.
>The Balance has replaced all their guides with direct links to speedhacks, rotation bots and splatoon. Game still has zero cheat detection. You're encouraged to submit falsified ACT logs to fflogs instead of actually raiding.
>Saying the phrase "you should" to another player is bannable in all contexts except ERP.
>Ganker threads have completely abandoned all pretense to being any different from /xivg/, thread contents consist of either explicit avatarfagging ERP or schizophrenics discussing how to find the guys from the zodiark trancer OF thread, none of which play the game anymore, and murder them IRL in revenge for a single negative comment about the game that was made in some youtube video in late 2023.
>It's 8.0.
>Emet posters are still saying dumb shit.
>It's 8.0.
>Schizos are still seething about the most acclaimed FFXIV character.
>ctrl-f
>"no stakes"
>1 of 2 results
>close tab
That's fine with me, I am more of a lobster guy
No wonder he said to play something else
this moron made the books required to be 1 month and a half just to laugh in your face.
Why is there no hype for anabaseios
Fucking terrible gear design.
gear looks like dog
Yeah, the gear is pretty mediocre design wise.
I am interested to see what the new final form of the final boss will be. Also I wanna see how stupid the mount is gonna look. Apparently it's the second boss.
No one tell him about the mount
>what the new final form of the final boss will be
It's just Athena with a World's Best Mom coffee mug.
I'M STILL IN TOP
Golbez is literally doing the same as the ffiv one and Ganker is calling it bad
Does that mean ffiv was a bad game all the time?
Golbez in FFIV wasn't actually Cecil's brother but some random guy pretending to be him for quite literally no reason? Woah
There's no Cecil on the Fourteenth, closest is Unukalhai and he's a squeaker
Still waiting for your explanation for why Golbez needed to larp as someone else when nobody even knew who the original gay was especially after the voidsent shit happened
To honor his friend and comrade.
Are you dense?
>I will honor my comrade by committing evil acts in his name and treating my allies like shit
Just admit it was a poorly executed CLAP
So the answer to my question is yes. Good to know.
Don't like White Mage's regen bubble being so massive now. Slowly cutting all the skill from the game.
>Slowly
Congratulations on recovering from your 5 year coma, Anon.
That was a pretty good raid conclusion. I was also shocked we got an actually voiced cutscene outside MSQ.
It does make me wonder if we are gonna get more pandaemonium stuff later on. They make a specific point that the jail is still out there somewhere needing to be guarded. Also those scientists now have the heart of sabik, which is a pretty fucking powerful object.
My hope is that in 6.55 we'll get a final Pandaemonium raid that's similar to Baldesion Arsenal or Delubrum Reginae Savage. I'd be pretty psyched if that happens.
>My hope is that in 6.55 we'll get a final Pandaemonium raid that's similar to Baldesion Arsenal or Delubrum Reginae Savage. I'd be pretty psyched if that happens.
why would you ever think that would happen?
why would you ever think there'd be a raid at the end of diadem 2 and diadem 3
I'm not saying it will. I'm not even saying it probably will. I'm just saying it would be really cool if it did and the story hook is right there.
BA didn't come out til 4.55 so it COULD happen. It probably won't, but it could.
Only Oschon can save us from 6.5
Can someone tell me how to force enable dalamud please?
Wait for the update
oh damn i forgot about dalamud being fucked. I don't really want to play with noclippy.....do i really miss anything for not login in today?
nothing
most normal players do content friday-saturday
>do i really miss anything for not login in today?
Yeah, DEEZ
anybody got the weapons on an imgur?
;_;
So he and Laha and Eric are recreations, right? So why didn't Lahabrea remember (you)? I mean from the real them's perspective you just come in, solve Pandamonium, and are never heard from again.
Lahabrea went cuckoo like he predicted he would if he merged back with his other half to get his crazed knowledge, to save the world
But both halves of him should remember you. We're never told that he lost memory.
Crazy people don't bother to remember irrelevant shit, anon
He was too busy getting high off of Zodiark and Primals
>irrelevant
The events of Pandamonium are like the second or third most important thing to ever happen in his life.
Yeah, but the WoL didn't really contribute much to the emotional side. He was basically just the muscle.
Besides, thousands and thousands of years had passed since then and he had no reason to assume that the guy who killed all that stuff in Pandaemonium is this relatively wet behind the ears adventurer trying to stop him. It's understandable he wouldn't make the connection.
It's been thousands of years and he's performed arboricities by the boatload. You're just annoying gnat to crush at Praetorium. There's nothing to link you to the past.
He reintegrated his crazy motherfucker side, so I assume the body-hopping caused that side of him to be more prevalent in the long-term.
Based on the above, given Hephaistos didn't seem to care about people's identities too much (like him saying Elidibus was barely worth remembering), I guess he just didn't bother to hold fast to any memories of the WoL?
>I guess he just didn't bother to hold fast to any memories of the WoL?
WoL both saved him and beat him up. At the very place where he was experimenting with the evil alien object that he later tries to kill WoL with.
I know he ran himself ragged but unlike everybody else there's no explicit loss of his memories.
I guess he just didn't give enough of a fuck to mention it, then. He did say he'd hold fast to his convictions regardless of what he had to face.
WHY IS THE DRAGOON SPEAR SO STUBBY
gnomish
Gents, I have a very special announcement to make
Zero tipped her hat exactly 8 times in this patch
Thank you for your attention
Oh that reminds of that scene in Garlemald where everyone just nods their head one after the other. What was up with that?
What are the P11 elidibussy mechs like?
Fatebreaker 2.0
Yeah, I was surprised how similar to fatebreaker that fight was. Even the same fight number. Was still fun though.
Raid things: Can't believe the E6 boss was secretly in on it. I wondered why she disappeared from the plot so fast.
Quite possibly the most fun normal tier I've played in a long time. Loved this raid.
So…..
Why was lahabread a crazy retard during arr and hw????
because the half with his emotions was where all of his crazy retard was concentrated
If it wasn't for Asmod and WoW killing itself I genuinely believe EW would've been the first expac with decreasing subs. Everything is just so underwhelming. 7.0 really is a make or break expansion.
I'm really hoping that EW has been lacking because they've been working on XVI. So with XVI done, hopefully 7.0 will be a step up.
I thought that just meant that her memories are gone so she can't possess anyone anymore. That doesn't account for the effects of the stone itself which turned her crazy.
>zero and zeromus have nothing to do with each other
>azem and azeyma have nothing to do with each other
Based
Azem and Azeyma made out in college.
>Zero isn't from Baron either
>probably isn't Cecilia too
Hat schizobros...
it's almost certain that the ancient hero, the statue in zero's domain, and Zero herself are connected/the same
this is where the time shenanigans might come into play but I am VERY skeptical of it
Alright, but what the fuck did Elidibussy mean by that
It's going to be a bright future.
>Zeromus ends up brainjacking the Scions
>WoL and Krile are the only ones that can hope to save them due to Echo immunity
>and Tataru of course for some reason
Book it lads
female lalafell wank is cringe. tataru would get fucked up too you dumb moron.
I'm not saying it because muh fenlalas, I'm just spitballing ideas for why Krile is supposedly gonna be stepping up soon. Imagine this
>CGI trailer where the WoL fights off the Scions who are overflowing with DAHKNESS
Normies would eat that shit up
AHHH NOT THE LALAFELL!!!!
ZODIARK MAN, SAVE ME!
Now that you mention it I'm surprised there hasn't been a "One of/several of the Scions get tempered and WoL has to work to undo it" plot yet.
We literally cured tempering ready, so you know
Well yeah that's what I mean, if it had been before we made the cure, one of the Scions getting tempered would have "Oh fuck, s/he's dead". Now it'd be like the typical "Hero has to fight against his brainwashed companions while trying not to hurt them too much" episode.
Though actually, I guess we did get that with Thancred in ARR.
Lyse tried that already
Probably because before they made the cure it was considered a death sentence and after they made a cure, it's pretty treatable. The only real conflict would be stopping the scion from hurting others while not killing them until they can get a porxie to them.
just finished panda and pic related is literally me right now
also make sure to talk to Claudien again
Mom of the year
She's what the Trancers wish Venat was like
>yoshida even threw the zodiark trancers a bone and gave them an actual "VENAT BAD" character
kinoooooooooooooooooooo
>trancers
Is this some new shitpost? I was seeing it in a previous thread.
Long story short, some guy made a comic of his WoL reeing at Hydaelyn about how she killed the Ancients and, instead of teaming up with the Scions to fight her, he goes full edgelord and uses Zodiark powers to fight her.
So "trance-ing" was basically channeling zodiark in the comic I guess?
Yes.
discord clique dedicated to trying to curry favor against venat as a character and decrying her as evil, mainly because she was not written as evil and is not presented as evil, and most of the members in that clique are notorious fanboys for emet-selch with some just being garlemald fanboys chuffed that the story sidelined them
if you see somebody complaining about how the threads are ruined forever because of people that bring up zodiark trancers that's one of them that can't keep it in his pants, /mmog/ on /vg/ has a lot of knowledge about the clique
Extremely obsessed /vg/ schizo that puts any criticism of the game on a group of discord fags.
Three years from now when people are bitching about how 7.1 is fucking boring, this guy will still be here screaming about how he's trancing.
and does this /vg/ schizo have a name
No.
means he's not notable enough to have one
keep it in your pants
Isn't part of the point that Venat's actions are pretty heinous even if she thought she was doing things for the 'greater good'?
yes and part of the same point is that venat herself doesn't view her actions as perfectly good, she views them as a necessary evil and preferable to total, unconditional extinction
So what's wrong with disagreeing with her conclusion that this was really the only way to save the planet, especially with the ambiguity around whatever the Ancients were planning to sacrifice to get souls out of Zodiark, the actual event that had her write off her own species?
You can disagree. You can even disagree ingame. But treating her as a horrible unredeemable monster is just a bit silly. And her plan was actually a longterm plan, all the Ascians had was a stop gap measure.
disagreeing with her conclusion is totally pointless due to the amaurotine mono-culture ensuring almost everyone was wrapped up in the suicide cult, venat barely got double-digits of followers in support of a counter-zodiark plan out of the total remaining population of amaurot
there is no other room for an alternative conclusion in the scenario given, the only person that disagreed with both was azem the player's ancient, who got sundered anyways
What I mean is, since we don't know what the third sacrifice entailed that freaked Venat out so bad (after she was okay with the first two,) it's hard to be entirely on her side that it was a step too far.
The problem with her plan is that other than relying on (You) she didn't actually have a concrete solution to Meteion. She was hoping a solution would manifest (with prime hope being on you) and had a planetary escape plan via the moon set up in case one didn't.
I can't fix her, but I can fuck her.
t. Lahabrea
If there's not a picture of
by the end of the day, the XIV fanbase will have failed me.
so who was hesperos? an uncle?
A warden.
SAY GOODNIGHT
WITH EACH BITE DOES YOUR SANITY DIEEEE
BY MY GUIDING HAND
PERFECTED WE STAND
>this is the last real content we get until April (A P R I L) 2024
What's yoshi P's master plan?
sis your 6.45? your blue mage and relic quests?
don't forget the dungeon you run 12 times then never again
HYPE
Well we get a new criterion dungeon in 2 months. And blue mage.
Lets be honest, the relic quests are hardly quests. Farming uncapped tomestones is basically just doing what you've already been doing passively. And apparently the future steps are gonna follow suit.
>Farming uncapped tomestones is basically just doing what you've already been doing passively.
I don't interact with hunts at all outside of tomestone grinding tbh
Huh? There is still a whole patch coming up.
Presumably no hardcore content in 6.5 though. Savage ends this patch, no ultimate next patch, and probably nothing else of real difficulty. Probably just the alliance raid and a final EX trial in terms of combat content. Maybe a hildebrand trial (Question is if Asura is coming before 7.0 or not, since we know she's coming).
>muh hardcore content
moron you got two whole ass Ultimates this expansion, and both were hard as shit. Raidmorons will quite literally never be satisfied.
I'm not even just talking hardcore content (I haven't done the ultimates), I'm talking midcore content too. The only thing that we know that's coming that's farmable in the next patch is the extreme. There may not be any other combat content worth running repeatedly besides that an the alliance raid. SB had the final zone of Eureka, ShB had the final zone of Bozja. And they at least kept you busy for a decent amount of time.
So when are they removing SAM 1 shots?
Holy kino
He only JUST learned that?
Apologize for calling Eden shit
Pand story was still better.
Pandemonium story was disappointing, feels like nothing was accomplished.
>Questions answered
>Lahabread no longer a deadbeat dad
>Thot slain
>Elidibus gives us a proper farewell and reincarnates in peace
Pretty much every loose end was tied up.
honestly the only thing I was missing from the panda story was something between Lahabrea and Thancred
>panda story ends decently
>msq is still spinning its wheels but now it has out of place "funny" scenes
golbez getting up after we kick his ass, going "no u", and do his plan anyway which realistically why didnt he do at any other point is fucking stupid. and this is the third patch in a row we have to teach zero about friendship jesus fucking christ if i see her dumbass tip her hat one more time.
whoever's writing this shit clearly has a boner for zero and needs to be fired for shitting up the msq with his waifu
So long as I get Zero's fit and scythe as a glamour outfit of some kind I can put up with her, she has a fantastic Reaper set
Filtered. Zero is kino.
>msq is still spinning its wheels but now it has out of place "funny" scenes
they're just setting up hildibrand becoming a part of the main cast in 7.0
>He doesn't go for a tussle with his Nemesis to give him a false sense of security at stopping you when in truth your plan was already complete.
Smh.