XIV isn't an MMO. It's a single player game with token multiplayer elements stapled on. It's like calling Mass Effect 3 an MMO because of the online mode.
It kinda ruins my immersion and that's why I don't RP with my main. Like, I'm the WoL but so is everyone else but also no one is really the WoL in terms of RP and we're all adventurers with different backstories but it's the same MSQ we all play and shit... I can only rp with alt which I skipped every cutscene because I can actually consider that alt a non-WoL adventurer rather than doing mental gymnastics for rp with main.
Why do I have to seperate it? My character did all that stuff in MSQ and in ordre to rp I'll have to be like "nope, none of this ever happened"? As I said, mental gymnastics.
You're not the WoL when you're rping. It's not that hard of a guideline to follow. Just pretend it's an alternate universe or something.
That's what I do with my alt because I skipped the MSQ. Simple..
1 year ago
Anonymous
Roleplay that your character is actually a schizo who thinks he's the WoL and actually did whatever he hallucinated doing in the MSQ.
I said that I don't rp with main because I don't want to do mental gymnastics and act like he's not the WoL or msq never happened... what's so "mental gymnastics" about it? Rp-schizos will start screeching if I say that I'm the WoL and "noooo we don't do that here" but I'm the one doing the gymnastics...
1 year ago
Anonymous
>I made a second character and skipped cutscenes because somehow that means they didn't do anything but I can't just do the exact same thing for the other character because reasons even though the situation is literally 100% the same
1 year ago
Anonymous
are you sure you don't want to join the Regal Eorzean Talk And Rational Dialectic Society?
1 year ago
Anonymous
Everyone knows that the WoL is a midlander guy.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>It's ok to roleplay as a random nobody even though you saved the world. Just act like none of it happened, have you ever played WoW where you are always an important nobody who helps major NPCs save the world? Just do that
1 year ago
Anonymous
>ChAmPiUn. THE WOONS. AZEROTH… she cries oot in payn. HELP HER, CHAMPIUN...
1 year ago
Anonymous
>where you are always an important nobody who helps major NPCs save the world?
if you’re going to drag a save the world plot into an mmo (you shouldn’t) it should at the very least be done like this
what’s the fricking point of the game being an mmo if the story of the game makes literally zero sense in an mmo setting >umm akshually those other peoples characters didnt do the msq
YES THEY DID
1 year ago
Anonymous
>YES THEY DID
So everyone is WoL but they don't rp like it because?
1 year ago
Anonymous
having to play make believe with your character is already stupid but it would be even stupider if everybody acknowledged the reality and still tried to rp
they arent role playing they’re playing with dolls
role playing in a role playing video game should just be you playing your character
1 year ago
Anonymous
>Been watching WoW lore videos lately to kill time. >Every video dealing with some post-Warcraft event always includes a part where eventually "Some random adventurer" solves the entire situation, then no one acknowledges they did it, or that there's some mysterious person running around constantly fixing things, or anything, they just have some major npc who didn't help jump in to to proceed as if the whole situation just fixed itself by miracle.
I really don't get how anyone can take this lore seriously. What happens before WoW usually makes sense and is fairly consistent worldbuilding, even with it's ups and downs, but everything that happens from WoW onwards is always pure fricking nonsense, not just because of the "random adventurer saves the day then everyone forgets about it" thing.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>I really don't get how anyone can take this lore seriously.
No one takes WoW's story seriously.
You would have to be a genuinely uncultured dullard to actually get invested in WoW's story. To the point that you do not play other games, read books, watch movies -- consume ANY OTHER MEDIA besides WoW.
It's great because their writing for WoW eventually looped around and infected Starcraft and Diablo as well. HotS is exactly the same level of putrid dogshit that we got out of WoD, and the "Kerrigan was totally mind controlled she was a good girl the whole time" nonsense is the template they used for Sylvanas's utterly embarrassing finale in Shadowlands.
1 year ago
Anonymous
what is “pure random nonsense” about the events of onyxias discovery and slaying as accounted by the alliance in vanilla wow?
1 year ago
Anonymous
Canonically it's always some actual hero and not you who does the thing, be it a faction leader or some other Chad. You kinda exist to be a moronic Samaritan.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>Canonically it's always some actual hero and not you who does the thing
Why do you just constantly lie?
1 year ago
Anonymous
Who defeated the burning legion?
1 year ago
Anonymous
(you) as part of the group of adventurers [the raid] and the npcs like illidan, kadghar, velen and whoever else was in antorus+tomb of sargeras i cant remember
1 year ago
Anonymous
How is this satisfying to anyone.
You are already a nobody in real life, why would you play a fantasy game to live the fantasy of being a nobody whose hard work is not aknowledged by the lore or the characters in it.
1 year ago
Anonymous
its way more satisfying to be a small part of a big world than it is to be THE SUPER SPECIAL MAW WALKER NO ONE HAS EVER DONE THIS IN THE HISTORY OF THE UNIVERSE
that’s the entire point of the mmo genre
1 year ago
Anonymous
i kind of get this.
which is weird, because in wow you're the most important guy center of the universe and a nobody at the same time.
you do everything in-game, and you're basically friends with every major character, but when it comes to canon lore, your character basically doesn't exist, and everything you've done is just attributed to someone else
1 year ago
Anonymous
>your character basically doesn't exist, and everything you've done is just attributed to someone else
once again, this is not true and i dont get why people parrot this lie
your character is obfuscated as part of ~~*a group of adventurers*~~ in the context of what canonically happens in each raid but their deeds are never just handed off to an npc, that’s the nature of devs trying to force a main storyline in an mmo
1 year ago
Anonymous
It was okay in classic. You're just a random adventurer, basically a unit from Warcraft who does simple things. One of the many. You helped local villagers, solved mysteries, etc. You did beat some big bad guys but it required a big group of people, arguably an army.
But it all started to change when Blizzard started the whole this new villain is the true mastermind behind everything thing with tons of powercreep. Arguably with BC when you(or maiev) beat Illidan. You are constantly the hero who saved the world many many times but not really there is always someone who actually did it. In legion every paladin had the most famous weapon paladins have ever had, Ashbringer, yet you were still practically a nobody.
It's strange.
(you) as part of the group of adventurers [the raid] and the npcs like illidan, kadghar, velen and whoever else was in antorus+tomb of sargeras i cant remember
The adventurers helped but it were the NPCs who got all the credit.
Arthas was basically defeated by Tirion. Basically you were there but it wasn't you who actually beat the villains.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>Arthas was basically defeated by Tirion.
uh huh, and who was arthas baiting to icc to raise as his new unstoppable army? oh yea, (you)
1 year ago
Anonymous
But that's FF14 rp community in a nutshell. You can't be the WoL because everyone is the protagonist. Protagonist syndrome the game
1 year ago
Anonymous
it's considered bad form to claim you're the canonical Hero of Azeroth/Maw Walker/whatever they're calling you in Dragonflight by the WoW rp community as well. You can be an adventurer but if you're running around talking about how you're the canon protag people will usually just ignore you
1 year ago
Anonymous
That's just a matter of politeness though. You can't have everyone who RPs running around saying they're the one who defeated Endsinger, the one who liberated Doma and Ala Mhigo, the one who's dicking down Y'shtola or G'raha or whoever, or say every sidequest is canonically done by them. It's just common sense that RP wouldn't work if everyone is claiming to be the WoL. It's literally the opposite of protagonist syndrome, everyone is purposefully making themselves out not to be WoL and they expect the same of you, so that no one is loudly yelling "I'm more important than you".
1 year ago
Anonymous
I can larp as the actual WoL because I'm a midlander.
Humans are always the protagonists.
I would say good morning every single day and get no replies. I would request assistance and no one would speak up. How would you suggest I go about trying harder?
Yeah, that there's the exact thing that pisses me off about this game. Want to do specific content? Want your fc members to actually talk to you in game? Join the fricking discord.
well, as much as i understand that, if you make the effort to join the group it shows people that you want to be in the group and they'll be more friendly towards you.
1 year ago
Anonymous
It goes both ways, they shouldn't accept people into the group if they're not going to make any effort to make them feel welcome. If the catch to actually playing the game is to join a cult of personality, I'll just continue playing solo.
1 year ago
Anonymous
what makes you so special? why should they reach out to you when you make no effort to do the same for them?
1 year ago
Anonymous
I made an effort every single day to reach out.
1 year ago
Anonymous
why do you feel thats adequate?
1 year ago
Anonymous
By saying hello? Did you say anything else?
1 year ago
Anonymous
With the one I joined their discord was just people posting their modded characters and pretending to act excessively feminine. Was seriously creepy.
what makes you so special? why should they reach out to you when you make no effort to do the same for them?
I made an effort every single day to reach out.
I honestly think Ganker usage degrades a person's social abilities. Not just because they get fricked up ideas about what are considered acceptable public views (hating Black folk, gays, being a pedo, etc), but also because its anonymous with no history. You don't have to keep tabs on other people or be considerate of their own point of view at all, nor do you develop a reputation. You should post here less if you can't make friends in ffxiv.
1 year ago
Anonymous
i unironically believe its main character syndrome, possibly paired with these individuals believing that 'rep bars' apply to real life and that if they do X they should get Y result
1 year ago
Anonymous
>You don't have to keep tabs on other people or be considerate of their own point of view at all
You are Ted Kaczynski's very definition of an oversocialized male
1 year ago
Anonymous
He is a literal troony
1 year ago
Anonymous
>Ted Kaczynski
He was a lunatic moron that believed he could change society by bombing office cubicles and attributed economic downturns to women entering a workforce because he hated women and not because of banks controlling the economies of countries.
I find this hilarious, our FC has a discord but it's all ex-WoW boomers and mostly people will post there maybe 2-5 times a week. Usually because you can actually post media on there. And outside of planned events, FC chat is always busier and nobody asks for roulettes etc. outside the game.
Makes me wonder if in other FCs' Discords people just don't use the FC chat at all.
1 year ago
Anonymous
With the one I joined their discord was just people posting their modded characters and pretending to act excessively feminine. Was seriously creepy.
1 year ago
Anonymous
My FC is practically the same. What annoys me most is when there’s 4 in a party using the FC chat for an irrelevant conversation that would be better spent in the party chat. I always hide the log window cause they ramble on about stupid shit I don’t need to know
If it was TeamSpeak or Ventrillo you'd be pissing and cumming in joy but because it's Discord you autistic out of touch homosexuals lose your mind
I'm not socializing in game where I have to tip-toe around your lunacy you snowflake
1 year ago
Anonymous
I dislike voice chat in general but that isn't relevant here because the discordgays I'm talking about don't use voice chat even in their own queer little servers.
1 year ago
Anonymous
When i played, I joined an FC and was told every time I tried to talk about stuff ingame, that all discussion should be done in the FC's discord server. The final straw was when I brought up upcoming patch notes in chat and one of the high ranked trannies used a macro to push my text off-screen and told me that if i wanted to talk about the game I need to go so in the discord.
I immediately left and stopped playing altogether about a few months after that.
These stories are fake and gay
Same old doomposts
1 year ago
Anonymous
You aren't me, you don't know my experiences. You're fake and gay for attempting to enforce this narrative.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Why would I fake a shitty FC story? They exist and can ruin the experience for a lot of people.
You don't have any receipts and can't back up any of your claims lol
Now you're angry because your false narrative was called out
1 year ago
Anonymous
Why the hell would I bother doing that? I'm not some twitter addicted teen seeking to cancel people for saying something problematic.
How about you start first then, provide me "receipts" showing a healthy fc discord.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Not that anon, but I’m more surprised by anyone asking for receipts of all things. In any case, what would you personally consider to be a healthy fc discord, anon?
1 year ago
Anonymous
I'm not really sure, as i've only ever been in "unhealthy" ones filled with porn posting, but I'd imagine it to be something like an extension of the in game fc chat. Possibly planning events and discussing personal lives as friends do.
1 year ago
Anonymous
I guess if you take away the porn posting, it might make things slightly better. I say it’s based on how active and cooperative the members are
1 year ago
Anonymous
>how active and cooperative the members are
That's a good way to summarise it. Although it should be said that it only really counts if those traits are extended to in game as well.
1 year ago
Anonymous
True true
1 year ago
Anonymous
Why would I fake a shitty FC story? They exist and can ruin the experience for a lot of people.
1 year ago
Anonymous
If you're not seeing the difference between asking for server info, joining voice for the raid and then leaving again, and joining a media sharing forum that is running 24/7 that you're expected to participate in at all times, there's no hope for you.
The Discord of an FC I joined was completely taken over by one guy constantly posting furry porn and commenting on it, which everyone ignored. It's also the FC I found my spouse in so there's that.
When i played, I joined an FC and was told every time I tried to talk about stuff ingame, that all discussion should be done in the FC's discord server. The final straw was when I brought up upcoming patch notes in chat and one of the high ranked trannies used a macro to push my text off-screen and told me that if i wanted to talk about the game I need to go so in the discord.
I immediately left and stopped playing altogether about a few months after that.
Always found this funny when I played, people have this weird conception that everyone else is just willing to drop everything to play with some random frick just because they're new to the game or guild. The fc I was in was one of the larger ones on the server and it was just a glorified chatroom, lots of people always talking and if you actually communicated you might get sucked into one of the sub group's(or cliques as people liked to reeeee about back then) linkshells and do content consistently with those people. But it was common for people to leave after a few weeks because "the guild doesn't do enough together, muh cliques, etc" Like what the hell do you expect us to do as a guild with so many different timezones and few activities that more than 8 people can do together? Go to eureka and get assimilated into the afk train while we shoot the shit in game chat or discord??? I imagine those kinds of people probably did not last long in the game finding out almost every other guild is going to be just like that.
>complain about no friends once on Ganker >some anon tells me to stop being a gay, and add him on dis*ord >i download it make an account and add him, we talk a little bit >haven't talked since then
i want to ralk to him cause im lonely but i never had friends so idk how to start convos. what the frick am i supposed to say ? how the frick do you talk to friends ??
>>'yo' >>hows it been?
up to?
thanks I'll try that >>*link to mutually liked weird porn*
can i actually do that ? im 65% sure friends don't talk/share porn. i also don't know what he likes
It's not fun with friends because you can't actually group up for the majority of the 300 hour storyline.
It's not fun alone because the 300 hour storyline consiste almost entirely of teleporting to talk to NPCs and watching unvoiced cutscenes consisting of characters doing stock emotes with the very rare quest where you walk into a purple circle and kill three zero difficulty mobs.
It's not fun and you shouldn't play this garbage. Ganker only likes it for the porn and ERP.
destiny 2 is pretty nice for talking to people because it actually has voice chat, and an fps audience is better than standard mmo audience. finding a clan can be a pain though i'm looking for a new one now. i got invited by standing around in the tower but sadly that clans ending soon because the main guys left and not many log on now. right now its literally my one socialising possibility.
>make a sexy character >implying that matters
people will try to erp with anything on balmung, even aggressively unsexy characters. Maybe even more so.
eh it happens
was it a 30-100 run?
today i wiped a p8s group by going for a gcd and petrifying everyone, as soon as someone left i pressed o and left the party faster than i joined
>want to play blu for moogle tome events and achievements >lol you fricking moron you're supposed to have friends now go spend 40 hours mindlessly pressing 2 keys
I didn't want to play blu anyway.
To mess with you maybe, idk
They know people will want the most tomes fast so the pit Prae as having the most to give but you must be forced to sit through the cutscenes without being able to skip anything
It can be draining running it constantly, too
Centered? No. Glams that leave it just hanging out are some low tier garbage. I always put mine underneath a robe or a dress so when I cast as spell and it flitters up I get a quick peek at that fat ass.
You can barely play it with friends because everything before end game is a single player story quest with heaps of instancing. Then end game is playing simon says with a group for some gear that becomes obsolete after a few months.
What's Mare? I keep seeing people talking about it, and at first I thought they were just talking about the actual zone or some kinda free company, but now i'm thinking it's not that
As in it gives you a list? Or as in it lets you see their modded character? If it's that latter that's pretty neat, assuming you don't need to install those mods, although i'd have no interest in using it.
It lets you see their modded character.
It's used in combination with another plugin, so all mods are unique to everyone's characters (using textools applies mods to everyone). I'm not sure how it handles downloading other players mods, my job is only to be aware of these things.
>my job is only to be aware of these things
why
but mare sounds like a timebomb, especially because I'm pretty sure there are 'venues' that have these code shares
it would take 1 person to make something malicious and infect a bunch of people, idk how feasible this is, I think it's dangerous as hell
I guess it's fitting though, bunch of idiots getting stds kind of deal
>but mare sounds like a timebomb
the dev used to make a big deal out of how malicious code execution via mods was a possibility and how you should only sync with people you know and trust but then he did a complete 180 and made syncshells so you can be synced with perfect strangers and never know when someone joins the shell until its possibly too late. Apparently there was an update for penumbra/textools that fixed an identified vector for code execution but we'll just have to wait and see if they patched all the holes
>getting friends to play with you
I only know one couple that managed this, and they ended up divorcing and having weird drama with the FC
It's pretty much only people you meet in XIV itself, very few people actually manage to convince IRL friends to play as well
it would be more fun with friends but so far ive found most frens i could make in game to be terrible people, a few were cool, but their coolness was ruined by morons that they constantly include in parties or that will overtake any FC. also playing witb irl friends sucks bc theres always the chance they dont like it or ruin the mood. on the flip side though, its pretty enjoyable going it on your own. its just a shame multiplayer can really be so much more trouble than its worth, i had high hopes
>stop jerking off to porn, its harmful
While that's debateable, making it into a social activity certainly is. This game's community is evidence of that.
Wait for 7.0 when they actually finish the job. Right now it's incredibly half-wienered.
Aetherflow is going to get reworked into something that hopefully feeds into some kind of flow rather than just being a button to push for damage. Likewise for the summons, the first time you bust out Garuda or Titan it's cool, but doing that every 60s for a 15 minute dungeon gets old very, very quickly.
I'd much rather have a system where you spend aetherflow to attune to a specific element or combination of elements, and then use a big summon cooldown and augments your abilities.
Actual shifts, too, not just different flavors of instant-cast ruin 3.
It's purely my fanfic.
We're going to see more jobs become like SMN rather than them dialing back on just how relentlessly shallow and braindead SMN is now.
Lv 86 give you an extra OCD for titan, instacast aoe gap closer (I know it sounds weird) for ifrit, and a long cast aoe that leaves an area with a small dot
Those all come off of existing skills though.
I'm not complaining, SMN is cool to play now, it's just funny how it just gets new context proc skills rather than anything new to press for 20 levels.
Gotcha, I see what you're saying. It's weird, I actually sort of like that even if maybe a few more could get added. There's a number of other classes that have a few too many "why is this even a skill instead of being a trait or lumped into something else"-type skills which I think are leftover from just trying to find shit to add to classes for various expansions. Few of them could use some cleanup.
lv70 SMN in UCoB and UWU is absolutely fricking hilarious
You literally just spend 16 minutes mashing 1. There's no timing or finesse, you don't delay anything, just burn all your shit the moment it comes up. Even the fricking healers have more buttons to push.
I know a girl (real) who used to play femra. She fanta'd to femzen cause she couldn't handle all the creeps and sexualisation.
She seems a lot happier these days.
Good looking anything is rare in this game because the people that play it have awful taste and are obsessed with shoving as many clashing colors as possible onto their character in a desperate bid to be hecking unique
Well normal looking characters are inherently hard to remember because they don't stand out
You only really take note of exceptionally good or bad ones
1 year ago
Anonymous
One normal looking type stands out to me massively and I am so tired of seeing it.
Yeah, I'm talking about you, blonde himecut raen.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Femra are made for himecuts
1 year ago
Anonymous
Please make it literally any other colour.
Strawberry blonde does not count.
Half the time whenever I see something like what you describe it’s quite strange. A character with different colored pupils and highlights just looks off-putting and unappealing if the colors don’t really match.
It’s one thing to wanna stand out from the rest, but eventually everyone ends looking the same if they’re all trying to indirectly copy each other
They really need to do something about animations. I changed my middie's idle and run animations to cat ones and the game became much more enjoyable. It shouldn't be that hard for them, especially when there are tons of NPCs that use custom animations or some animations of other races.
>Getting rid of the fiddie run
might as well have fantasia'd
1 year ago
Anonymous
I like everything about her except her run and idle animations. The idle animation is too stiff, she looks like a damn robot, no living person stands like that.
And the run doesn't fit my character at all. An armoured knight that runs like a princess? Very funny but it gets tiresome.
Every real female I know plays Elezen or Roe for exactly that reason
I guess it's because they're not attention prostitutes like the rest of their accursed species
>She fanta'd to femzen cause she couldn't handle all the creeps and sexualisation
Whats her name and world I'm going to go sexually harass her. God put me on this earth to fondle femezen ears
Not nearly to the same degree my man. You couldn't even post a pic of one.
>She fanta'd to femzen cause she couldn't handle all the creeps and sexualisation
Whats her name and world I'm going to go sexually harass her. God put me on this earth to fondle femezen ears
>just spam 5 step full thrust combo over and over again
Oh my sweet summer child
You are flat out delusional if you think DRG is keeping anything more than 1-2-3. Those alternating combos are FAR too complicated for incoming players.
Oh I was thinking of the self buff from Disembowel/your 1-2-3. But Lance Charge and all the party buffs are getting condensed into one for sure.
Honestly I think they will shirk away from DRG buffs as their focus and make it do more damage like NIN, MNK or RPR
They're going to make all the melee do the same thing and have near identical damage other than SAM
You all lied to me. I've spent two weeks on god awful mod discords PMing people with lala avatars trying to get access to lala mods and all they do is play stupid, never respond or block me.
So what happens in 7.0? >Level cap increased to 100 >Level cap increased to 99 >Level cap increased to
What does progression look like? SURELY they're not going to go past 99/100, and a level squish is almost out of the question given how much drama there was over the stat reallocation in EW.
Then they're forced to do another stat squish because the damage numbers are already getting ridiculous, and they might as well do a level squish while they're at it.
They've got to stop increasing the levels at some point, and adding more abilities just because "we have to, it's an MMO and it NEEDS levels" it gonna just increase the bloat. Or if they level squish, they will make the first several expansions feel awful by changing up the kit/rotation where it doesn't feel as good until even later.
Either they figure out some form of alternate progression or horizontal progression, or they screw over New Player experience even greater than now to the point where it becomes not worth it for new players.
>and adding more abilities
They've already given up on this. Just watch, 7.0 is going to exclusively consist of particle upgrades and recycled old skills. >Fire IV changed to High Fire IV >Ruin III changed to High Ruin >Broil IV changed to High Broil >Chaos Thrust changed to Phlebotomize >Fell Cleave changed to Feller Cleave
etc. etc.
i'm fine with that. most of the classes play well already. my class only got 2 new buttons from 80 to 90, and neither really change how the class plays
>most of the classes play well already.
DRK could really use something to distinguish it from WAR
PLD is an absolute shitshow, worse than it's ever been rotation-wise. It doesn't flow at all, you have to ditch sword oath stacks because there just isn't enough space to cram them between the other shit you do.
SCH is an abomination compared to SGE, they fixed the "healing is a damage loss" issue with WHM's lilies but not for SCH's Energy Drain.
MNK is still incredibly unwieldy even after stripping away some of the positionals, it has five different openers and none of them are satisfying even in their ideal usage conditions
SMN is SMN, even if you like the EW changes aesthetically, it's still far-and-away the dumbest job in the game now and it's not satisfying to execute at all once you get past the initial wow factor of the demi summons.
he's being reductionist. the giveaway is that he thinks sage plays better than scholar
1 year ago
Anonymous
It objectively does. SCH gets some incredibly overcompensated numbers because of the amount of setup it takes to actually do anything with the fairy. >can't gain faerie gauge during dissipation so aetherpact winds up seeing no usage until very late in the fight >using anything but energy drain is a dps loss, the job at its core is fighting against the primary way in which the game is played because you're trying to keep from using aetherflow unless it's absolutely necessary >sacred soil does not grant bonuses unless the party stands in it, making it useless in mechanics where the party spreads out (vs. SGE's equivalent which just puts the same buffs on everyone in range for the same duration) >fey illumination only affects healing spells, of which SCH has only two (neither of which you ever want to use outside of downtime)
SCH has tools that are much more potent, but that's to compensate for the fact that their toolbox is a hodgepodge mess of shit. SGE is internally consistent and still offers more utility because there's nothing in the game that just outright requires spread critlo to survive.
1 year ago
Anonymous
SCH's problem is that it's completely carried by recitation, soil, deploy, and chain strat. It doesn't matter that they feel like an awkward mash of what they used to be and what the devs want it to become, they have the super shield and crit boost so they'll always be meta.
>Or if they level squish, they will make the first several expansions feel awful by changing up the kit/rotation where it doesn't feel as good until even later.
Have you looked at the current low level rotations? That's already a thing, and you get like your 1-2-3 + 2 skills at level 50.
I'd love to see "job mastery" progression but they would never do that. Anything more than an xp counter gets the playerbase shitting themselves in rage, we saw that with cross-class and custom role actions.
Even if it would work out really well in the long run. They can't keep adding two new jobs with every expac for another 10 years. There's eventually going to have to be some kind of multi-role system where you can play a WAR as a DPS, or a SMN as a healer.
I wanna do BA, having finished my eureka weapon and I just want to know some things before signing up for a group.
I know I need spirit of the remembered for reraise, is that the only logos I need for DPS? Just more copies of it in case I bite the dust?
Are the callouts easy enough to follow or should I need to watch videos beforehand?
What will happen if I still end up dying in BA? Am I just fricked?
BA is solved. Without all of the bullshit it's not even as hard as Orbonne.
Just try and do it on Primal or Aether because all of the callers on Crystal are colossal homosexuals and they deliberately surround themselves with clout chasers so it's impossible to get a spot without kissing ass in their discord.
>have one set rotation that youre expected to do over and over and over again in the exact same order for an entire ~2 year expansion
how are people ok with this?
because if i want to be a snowflake i'll play a game that has class customization and is single player so suboptimal play on my part doesn't hinder other people's experiences rather than b***h about one game not being like another
give you something to pay attention to in combat between waiting for the next telegraphed mechanic
id rather the classes not be playable by zero logic bots/macro sequences it’s fricking pathetic
Raidtrannies would have a melt if there's any RNG in a RPG game. Hell if they could they would get rid of all the stats in the game just to have 0 variance.
BLM and BRD have had less RNG with each expansion, and whatever dps is lost to missed DNC procs is far outweight by the massive 2 minute burst it provides.
That was because of DRG's pierce debuff and MCH being dogshit. They also had palisade back then.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Raiders loved old mch though, only shitters didn't
1 year ago
Anonymous
>old mch
They loved heavensward mch, not stormblood mch. Nobody liked having to babysit their heat or ruin their entire burst. Nobody liked being stuck on split shot 4+ times in a row. Nobody liked having to trigger overheat with one tick of flamethrower.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Does anyone enjoy current heat blast spam and wildfire? I think the PvP version of MCH is the only type of MCH that people actually like.
1 year ago
Anonymous
I do, I like the fast paced keyboard mashing while moving. It's especially fun in solo deep dungeon.
1 year ago
Anonymous
It's funny, I very much dislike pvp mch because it feels strong, but clunky. The basic attack is piss, you can barely control when you get overheated, you need to be engaged for a fair amount of time to get there in the first place, and to cycle through your tools you have to get up close with bioblaster, which you may not be in a position to do. If heat stacks lasted longer so you could disengage and come back and if you had say a 30s free tool cycle, I'd feel a little better about it.
1 year ago
Anonymous
It's not perfect, but it's definitely fun to go ham and see all the numbers fly. It'd make absolutely 0 difference in raid setting, but I'd love to see aoe attached to wildfire and automaton so they don't feel like absolute ass in dungeon pulls. Sometimes I just hold them for the next boss.
1 year ago
Anonymous
It blows my mind to see that Wildfire has gone two full expansions without the "[X] potency on target, 60% less on enemies within 5y" treatment.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>a dance does aoe damage >an explosion does not
1 year ago
Anonymous
>Blasting Zone >single target attack
1 year ago
Anonymous
This hurts even more when fated circle is the exact same animation as demon slaughter but with explosions. Surely now that they condensed gnashing into a single button, they can add an aoe version so it doesn't feel like shit in pulls.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Most of the mch attacks look like they could blast the whole zone or at least do some sort of conal damage.
But then you get to the actual AoE spells and it's a fricking automatic crossbow or a flamethrower that has no actual use or any interaction with other abilities whatsoever.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>Boss' hitbox takes up over half of the whole platform
The encounter design is just moronic. Especially Trials, when you can spend most of the time around the center of the platform as melee and still have uptime on the boss as you wave your weapons at an empty space.
The phys.ranged tax is just bullshit at this moment.
1 year ago
Anonymous
what surprises me at this point is that gauss round and ricochet don't share a CD yet. Seems like something they'd do
1 year ago
Anonymous
>I think the PvP version of MCH is the only type of MCH that people actually like.
Do they?
I mean sure I can see a MCH in each casual CC match, but is it actually fun?
The fact that you have to cycle your swiss army knife of an ability button is the most moronic design, they're squishy and immobile as frick.
Feels like only thing people do is wait for the LB to blast someone at a distance, but that is really only fun in big battlegrounds, not CC.
Also e-girlng at the absolute morons who save Analysys for Chainsaw, hoping they'd get a proc, cause from what I've found out, it's actual playstyle people perform. Not penetrating guard, not aoe slow, not ranged stun. A 4% chance to eat 75 or so % of one player's health.
Raid balance is where fun jobs go to die. They need to take a stance on acknowledging world firsts, that it doesn't mean shit. If all the jobs are fun to play, who gives a frick if it's unbalanced? Why should they be homogenizing every job for the benefit of raider's ego?
It is really weird how cultist here say Yoshi don't give a frick about raiders and the 1% bla bla bla but then literally the whole game is made around them.
Parsegays want to reset if they don't dcrit their big payoff. It's why they changed stuff like midare to be an auto crit. Really unsure why they didn't do the same to hyosho given the massive gap between a normal hit and a dcrit.
>post 6.0 MSQ were damn bad. Plain and simple. >EW alliance raids are only somewhat okay because of the music, the story is mediocre and the rewards look like shit >EW raids are mediocre at best >Gameplaywise shit has gotten boring as frick, nobody enjoys the combat anymore because of how casualised it has become >Tons of gear are being recycled while the Dev team keeps spamming mogstation items >Island sanctuary? Don't make me laugh it's a waste of time that is not even entertaining because of how it was made.
Did I forget anything?
Literally nobody knows what to do in frontline. Just queue in, arrange your buttons during the process and you're Gucci.
Every job in PvP has moba style rotations.
Just hit the dummies in wolves den for a while. You want to focus on burst and debuffs, you won't be getting full rotations on enemies unless you're monk.
>eat/deny ground pots >dont frontline without purify >dont frontline without mana >press guard if youre an easy target >expect cc and damage out of guard >burst and cc people out of guard >dont cc into guard or resilience >dont save lb for too long but sometimes you have to hold it >dont waste resources into fights that are already lost (1v5 lb) >keep track of major cds (drg roar, wyrmwind, poly, drill, ) >know what enemy resources youre fighting into and play around them >keep track of enemy defensives and target people who dont have them up >target enemy players with lb / about to get lb >target enemy players mispositioning (players standing on crystal for no reason) >dont stack on the crystal if you dont have to >dont guard while you have resilience already up
I found it borderline impossible to play with friends. >constant teleporting back-and-forth that creates confusion >map won't show where your friend is if they leave the area >no way to share main/side quest progress >the scenario keeps splitting you up for solo instances and breaking up and reforming the party every 5 minutes is a pain in the ass >job questlines are all solo >endless cutscenes that keep either one of you waiting all the time >massive amounts of text that you can't really focus on reading while your ADHD friend's going insane in the background >etc
Roleplaying is moronic. Just because MMORPG genre contains the "RPG = roleplaying game" words, doesn't mean you have to act like your character or something. That's for trannies who make female characters and act like women just because they cut off their dicks and are on meds. They will never be women lmao, they can only cope with RP like one, both in-game and irl
I wish market boards were dc linked as I don't understand why my server has troll prices for something that shouldn't cost more than 1000 gil that is listed for 9 million gil. I always travel to another dc and get it for a few hundred gils.
I like it, it's like bargain hunting if you're willing to put the effort in. If everything was connected, the monopolies and undercuts on specific items will get even worse.
Yeah it feels dumb >want a thing off market >check universalis >it's a little cheaper >ponder whether or not it's worth my time to go back to aetherite, transfer, get to the market board, get back to the crystal and transfer back
vanilla wow is the best mmo storytelling has ever been
a player on your server is the literal canonical scarab lord who rung the gong and began the war, thats actual roleplaying not dressing up and walking to your friends e-house to have tea
>a player on your server is the literal canonical scarab lord who rung the gong and began the war, thats actual roleplaying not dressing up and walking to your friends e-house to have tea
actually based. now best you can get is maybe a title to flex while you afk/dance on limsa
>a player on your server is the literal canonical scarab lord who rung the gong and began the war
yeah but the gong can be rung by anyone with the mallet within a certain window after the first hit and they all get <The Scarab Lord> and the black qiraji tank
so in some alternate universes (realms) the outcome was decided by a council of player characters who are all collectively referred to as the scarab lords
Lalas are disgusting, scale them to a real person height and laugh at how gross they actually are.
I wasn't surprised when I learned they made the fat cats with their body.
I mean how hard is it for a Voidsent to come to the Source and just not be an evil dick? Uttros and Typhon assimilated into mortal society pretty easily after the former had some sense bashed into him multiple times.
I mean, I imagine it's kinda akin to living foodstarved for millennia, having to survive being hunted by myriad creatures more powerful than you as you try to find the ones that aren't, or just submitting to one of them and hoping you get the scraps, and everything you can get tastes like ashes anyway. And then suddenly you find yourself in the greatest buffet in the whole fricking world, and everything has the most unique flavours you recall ever experiencing.
Yeah that's possible too since they were evidently just sucked into the Source via Thaumaturge experimenting instead of breaking in themselves.
It's just funny that nobody ever objects to either roaming the streets aside from Ultros being a pervert making lewd passes at girls. Reality and common sense takes a break when it's a Manderville centered storyline though so the silliness filter was also in effect.
I think the problem is that most mmo and final fantasy players fundamentally don’t understand what ‘role playing’ really is
role playing is when you are acting as if you are your character, understanding what they would be thinking in the context of the game world theyre in and what they’re experiencing
a role playing game should attempt to align the players wants and needs with the characters wants and needs such that its very easy to get into a basic understanding of your characters mindset by just playing the game
see: eve online, when some boomer logs into eve and starts preparing to haul e-freight across the galaxy hes roleplaying
I think it stems from it being a JRPG, which is a genre that doesn't actually engender any roleplaying. You're reading a prewritten story with very little input on your part, and XIV continues this.
XIV is shit for fantasy role playing
Troons buy houses, effectively locking themselves into a monthly sub, only to turn them into "clubs" so other permanently online losers can use them to imagine what night life might look like
You dont RP as a knight. You get to RP and see others RP as scantily clad catgirls played by 35 year old men
>Play MMORPG >RPG part has actual story/plot >RP community has decided not to act like the MC of that story/plot >Instead of fantasy setting, RP community is based in bars/strip-clubs/cafes/restaurant with others.
I just wander around with the RP tag on and do my own thing.
What FFXIV needs is an RP world that's actually RP driven. I can't stress how much the game suffers from lack of lore adherence or players being too interested in the real world. I just want ARR fantasy kino. The game has the best zones in ARR.
>Garleans call Eorzeans uncultured, primitive and savages. >Most of Eorzeans have the regalia car (ff15) or the fenrir bike (ff7). >Clubs/bars, weird lights and visuals >Out-of-time glam with outfits that look more modern/irl than fantasy/in-game
>XIV RP is hanging out in clubs/taverns >WoW RP is sitting on a bench in Cathedral District/Lion's Rest while military RPers spam their /yell macros
MMO RP is dead and it hurts.
I wonder how the brain of someone that continually posts the same things every thread and somehow believes that calling people schizophrenic for pointing out that he's obviously the same person will make them suddenly believe that it's actually a large group works
A healthy blend of both. A lot of the content is best played solo since it's a lot of reading and the best experience is far from linear (do the sidequests, homosexual, or the MSQ comes off as rushed and lacking impact). But you need those dungeons and stuff to break up the monotony and they're also a lot of fun. But try running dungeons all day. It will make you want to quit the game.
Depends on the role. UWU is overall rigid to hell and melee DPS has literally nothing to do the whole fight apart from share 1 orb, but overall the fight has all of its difficulty backloaded into Ultima, with Annihilation Suppression being harder than literally anything in UCOB. UCOB has a harder 1st phase and a big wall in the form of the nonsensical Nael quotes, but even the hardest mechanics (Blackfire, Heavensfall, Grand Octet) are all fairly easy and simple compared to Annihilation or Suppression, and Goldie is a joke. The only reason why shitters think UCOB is harder is the memories of other shitters killing them with twisters and the capability of a random idiot to cause 8 man wipes, even though UCOB is much easier to recover even later into the fight.
>exclusively roleplay, will only talk to players in character even if they are not >Founded my own FC with a friend I made in game a year ago >Have a steady group of friends to play with that are all from in game or Ganker >Routinely make new friends, have to constantly cycle through friends list and delete old ones because I can't carry any more >Tell my own stories, ignore shitty MSQ
If you want to make friends, be interesting and interested. It's painfully easy for me and I don't even need to break character to do it. I basically just play this game like it'. .hack// and do what I feel like. It's more fun this way. But also, other games are way more fun.
Man once you realize how to pick out actual females that play female characters, the game becomes so much more fun. The only drawback is that they're all mentally ill.
I feel like the only normal person in this game sometimes...
>emoticons are a huge giveaway - far too many is troon territory but a few smiles are fine >lack of autistic danger hair highlights >response times - troons wil lalways be obsessive are reply instantly while actual women will reply on time but not instantly >they have basic names instead of WoW-type names
I like the big guys give them a break, I also noticed that I completely forgot about the furry race. Nothing beats Elezens besides maybe ancients, but they don't really count since they're pretty much the same body model as them.
>like Elezen, would play Garleans or Ancients if they were playable, because that is what they are, reskinned Elezen >enlarge pic >see the moronic armpits on the modbeast of a character >opinion disregarded and forgotten
Pretty sure everyone thought you were talking about the females which then nearly every single player thinks the opposite order except for lalas
Highlanders look manly but they have good bodies still doesnt make up for the faces
Roes literally look like men I mean it, when a roe puts on a helmet it is impossible to tell them apart from highlander men
Elezen look pretty but their neck and long limbs is a problem which is why all their players cover them up
I was talking about both genders overall, roes get so high on my list because I used to work with a guy that was pretty much an IRL roe, he could crimp a 35mm terminal without any special tools and was always nice as frick.
I just love how regal the female Elezens look and they're also hot as frick.
Understandable, all non gay roe players are total fricking bros
females are annoying extreme muscle women fetishists who need to shove in this fact at any given chance for no reason
1 year ago
Anonymous
all the femroes I know(2) are chill, but there are too many 'big mommy' and 'snusnu' cringe Black folk around
1 year ago
Anonymous
Those are """""women""""", we don't talk about those.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Nta but all femroes are shameless male muscle fetishsts same way most maleroes are shameless baragays
if you thought they are females for some reason its your fault
Elezen have at least have 2 out of 4 good faces (1 and 2), assuming you choose the right nose (3).
Roegadyns universally look like ass and while they have some nice haircuts, they don't help a bit.
Highlanders have ugly faces as well, but at least they have great bods.
Both Square and the players fail to convey how good the fishing is in this game. If you just followed the MSQ or asked people around you'd think it was just hook and pray, but the amount of weird optimization jank you can do to maximize catching awful endgame fish is actually SOVL as frick.
>developing a reliable triple intuition for sea butterfly >queueing on a late night boat in a premade and specifically fishing in select areas and not catching certain things to maximize Placodus chances >Playing the GP game with Sculptors and jailing yourself with Collect on til the next Steth window once you finally see the bastard pop up >Fricking around with Precision hookset and Hook under Patience so that you don't accidentally catch shit past Ealad's window
>my representation in this world >representation
So you're either a troon, or other mentally ill individual, who cannot control something, they need to BE the thing. You cannot appreciate the fiction unless you, yourself, are part of it.
My condolences, midwit.
1 year ago
Anonymous
I'm seriously being called a troon for being a male player who plays a male character.
How many fricking mental gymnastics are you on right now?
1 year ago
Anonymous
I said either.
1 year ago
Anonymous
The fact you're flipping out so hard over a non-issue tells me there's only one mentally ill person involved in this conversation, and it's not me.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>flipping out
You are ascribing far more emotion to me than I am currently expressing. I worry I may have touched a nerve.
Midwit.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>You are ascribing far more emotion to me than I am currently expressing.
>my representation in this world >representation
So you're either a troon, or other mentally ill individual, who cannot control something, they need to BE the thing. You cannot appreciate the fiction unless you, yourself, are part of it.
My condolences, midwit.
This seems plenty fricking emotional. Specially the way you've now fallen into just repeating the same insult over and over because you can no longer actually formulate thoughts.
Hell, the fact I just said nobody ever clarifies if they talk about males or females of X race and you already jumped in unprovoked to attack male characters said it all.
>play with anamnesis while I wait for a duty pop >think about making an Agent K inspired character with the rebel coat and shit >duty pops, get teleported, all the customization is gone >look at my (female) character's 2Butt >save a bottle of Fantasia for another day
because the average coomer is completely devoid of creativity
just look at any fricking rava, literally every single one is a muscular amazonian futa with a 20 inch dick
>elezen
Man they have cute faces but their proportions are too fricked and I'm not just talking about their necks, their whole bodies look like they've been put through a taffy stretcher and their animations reflect it. Their run is a very awkward hobble, the females have linebacker shoulders for whatever reason but most offensive of all is just how tiny their heads actually are. You make their heads 20% bigger and it makes them look SO MUCH BETTER.
I can't imagine spending even a minute listening to her sassy attitude and whining. Other miqo'te like the one from the Sage job quest or Khloe are way superior.
Trick question, it's not fun at all
fipibipi
it's more fun trying to make friends
it isn't worth playing
also nice general, moron
not that gay, but give me an alternative to an mmo if not ff14. never played one.
XIV isn't an MMO. It's a single player game with token multiplayer elements stapled on. It's like calling Mass Effect 3 an MMO because of the online mode.
>WoW-gay desperately avoiding the question
I always join a cosy FC that's drama free but mostly stick to my own devices. It's nice to have people to do shit with when you're in the mood.
MMO sisters why did we kill single player FF when all we want is more MMO?
Trick question, we didn't and FF is finally going to live again
With friends, but it's impossible to make friends in game. You have to bring them from outside and hope that they don't drop it.
>joins FC and never says anything or tries to engage
>leaves FC because no one said hello to him or tried to engage with him
I see these people a lot. Why do they even play an mmo?
Trick question. FFXIV isn't an MMO.
Not arguing with a moron here is your free (you). You also forgot to redirect to /vg/
Cope.
You seem confused.
they believe that the fact that they're the main character in the MSQ spills over into the social aspect of the game
It kinda ruins my immersion and that's why I don't RP with my main. Like, I'm the WoL but so is everyone else but also no one is really the WoL in terms of RP and we're all adventurers with different backstories but it's the same MSQ we all play and shit... I can only rp with alt which I skipped every cutscene because I can actually consider that alt a non-WoL adventurer rather than doing mental gymnastics for rp with main.
if you can't separate the msq from rp you're not very good at rp
Why do I have to seperate it? My character did all that stuff in MSQ and in ordre to rp I'll have to be like "nope, none of this ever happened"? As I said, mental gymnastics.
That's what I do with my alt because I skipped the MSQ. Simple..
Roleplay that your character is actually a schizo who thinks he's the WoL and actually did whatever he hallucinated doing in the MSQ.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4457285/
This isn't even surprising.
RP has always been repulsive to me and the answer was right there in front of me.
I don't like this. I have autism, diagnosed, but I hate rp.
You're not the WoL when you're rping. It's not that hard of a guideline to follow. Just pretend it's an alternate universe or something.
>I do mental gymnastics instead of doing mental gymnastics
The mind of the rper is an enigma
I said that I don't rp with main because I don't want to do mental gymnastics and act like he's not the WoL or msq never happened... what's so "mental gymnastics" about it? Rp-schizos will start screeching if I say that I'm the WoL and "noooo we don't do that here" but I'm the one doing the gymnastics...
>I made a second character and skipped cutscenes because somehow that means they didn't do anything but I can't just do the exact same thing for the other character because reasons even though the situation is literally 100% the same
are you sure you don't want to join the Regal Eorzean Talk And Rational Dialectic Society?
Everyone knows that the WoL is a midlander guy.
>It's ok to roleplay as a random nobody even though you saved the world. Just act like none of it happened, have you ever played WoW where you are always an important nobody who helps major NPCs save the world? Just do that
>ChAmPiUn. THE WOONS. AZEROTH… she cries oot in payn. HELP HER, CHAMPIUN...
>where you are always an important nobody who helps major NPCs save the world?
if you’re going to drag a save the world plot into an mmo (you shouldn’t) it should at the very least be done like this
what’s the fricking point of the game being an mmo if the story of the game makes literally zero sense in an mmo setting
>umm akshually those other peoples characters didnt do the msq
YES THEY DID
>YES THEY DID
So everyone is WoL but they don't rp like it because?
having to play make believe with your character is already stupid but it would be even stupider if everybody acknowledged the reality and still tried to rp
they arent role playing they’re playing with dolls
role playing in a role playing video game should just be you playing your character
>Been watching WoW lore videos lately to kill time.
>Every video dealing with some post-Warcraft event always includes a part where eventually "Some random adventurer" solves the entire situation, then no one acknowledges they did it, or that there's some mysterious person running around constantly fixing things, or anything, they just have some major npc who didn't help jump in to to proceed as if the whole situation just fixed itself by miracle.
I really don't get how anyone can take this lore seriously. What happens before WoW usually makes sense and is fairly consistent worldbuilding, even with it's ups and downs, but everything that happens from WoW onwards is always pure fricking nonsense, not just because of the "random adventurer saves the day then everyone forgets about it" thing.
>I really don't get how anyone can take this lore seriously.
No one takes WoW's story seriously.
You would have to be a genuinely uncultured dullard to actually get invested in WoW's story. To the point that you do not play other games, read books, watch movies -- consume ANY OTHER MEDIA besides WoW.
It's great because their writing for WoW eventually looped around and infected Starcraft and Diablo as well. HotS is exactly the same level of putrid dogshit that we got out of WoD, and the "Kerrigan was totally mind controlled she was a good girl the whole time" nonsense is the template they used for Sylvanas's utterly embarrassing finale in Shadowlands.
what is “pure random nonsense” about the events of onyxias discovery and slaying as accounted by the alliance in vanilla wow?
Canonically it's always some actual hero and not you who does the thing, be it a faction leader or some other Chad. You kinda exist to be a moronic Samaritan.
>Canonically it's always some actual hero and not you who does the thing
Why do you just constantly lie?
Who defeated the burning legion?
(you) as part of the group of adventurers [the raid] and the npcs like illidan, kadghar, velen and whoever else was in antorus+tomb of sargeras i cant remember
How is this satisfying to anyone.
You are already a nobody in real life, why would you play a fantasy game to live the fantasy of being a nobody whose hard work is not aknowledged by the lore or the characters in it.
its way more satisfying to be a small part of a big world than it is to be THE SUPER SPECIAL MAW WALKER NO ONE HAS EVER DONE THIS IN THE HISTORY OF THE UNIVERSE
that’s the entire point of the mmo genre
i kind of get this.
which is weird, because in wow you're the most important guy center of the universe and a nobody at the same time.
you do everything in-game, and you're basically friends with every major character, but when it comes to canon lore, your character basically doesn't exist, and everything you've done is just attributed to someone else
>your character basically doesn't exist, and everything you've done is just attributed to someone else
once again, this is not true and i dont get why people parrot this lie
your character is obfuscated as part of ~~*a group of adventurers*~~ in the context of what canonically happens in each raid but their deeds are never just handed off to an npc, that’s the nature of devs trying to force a main storyline in an mmo
It was okay in classic. You're just a random adventurer, basically a unit from Warcraft who does simple things. One of the many. You helped local villagers, solved mysteries, etc. You did beat some big bad guys but it required a big group of people, arguably an army.
But it all started to change when Blizzard started the whole this new villain is the true mastermind behind everything thing with tons of powercreep. Arguably with BC when you(or maiev) beat Illidan. You are constantly the hero who saved the world many many times but not really there is always someone who actually did it. In legion every paladin had the most famous weapon paladins have ever had, Ashbringer, yet you were still practically a nobody.
It's strange.
The adventurers helped but it were the NPCs who got all the credit.
Arthas was basically defeated by Tirion. Basically you were there but it wasn't you who actually beat the villains.
>Arthas was basically defeated by Tirion.
uh huh, and who was arthas baiting to icc to raise as his new unstoppable army? oh yea, (you)
But that's FF14 rp community in a nutshell. You can't be the WoL because everyone is the protagonist. Protagonist syndrome the game
it's considered bad form to claim you're the canonical Hero of Azeroth/Maw Walker/whatever they're calling you in Dragonflight by the WoW rp community as well. You can be an adventurer but if you're running around talking about how you're the canon protag people will usually just ignore you
That's just a matter of politeness though. You can't have everyone who RPs running around saying they're the one who defeated Endsinger, the one who liberated Doma and Ala Mhigo, the one who's dicking down Y'shtola or G'raha or whoever, or say every sidequest is canonically done by them. It's just common sense that RP wouldn't work if everyone is claiming to be the WoL. It's literally the opposite of protagonist syndrome, everyone is purposefully making themselves out not to be WoL and they expect the same of you, so that no one is loudly yelling "I'm more important than you".
I can larp as the actual WoL because I'm a midlander.
Humans are always the protagonists.
I would say good morning every single day and get no replies. I would request assistance and no one would speak up. How would you suggest I go about trying harder?
join the discord
Yeah, that there's the exact thing that pisses me off about this game. Want to do specific content? Want your fc members to actually talk to you in game? Join the fricking discord.
well, as much as i understand that, if you make the effort to join the group it shows people that you want to be in the group and they'll be more friendly towards you.
It goes both ways, they shouldn't accept people into the group if they're not going to make any effort to make them feel welcome. If the catch to actually playing the game is to join a cult of personality, I'll just continue playing solo.
what makes you so special? why should they reach out to you when you make no effort to do the same for them?
I made an effort every single day to reach out.
why do you feel thats adequate?
By saying hello? Did you say anything else?
I honestly think Ganker usage degrades a person's social abilities. Not just because they get fricked up ideas about what are considered acceptable public views (hating Black folk, gays, being a pedo, etc), but also because its anonymous with no history. You don't have to keep tabs on other people or be considerate of their own point of view at all, nor do you develop a reputation. You should post here less if you can't make friends in ffxiv.
i unironically believe its main character syndrome, possibly paired with these individuals believing that 'rep bars' apply to real life and that if they do X they should get Y result
>You don't have to keep tabs on other people or be considerate of their own point of view at all
You are Ted Kaczynski's very definition of an oversocialized male
He is a literal troony
>Ted Kaczynski
He was a lunatic moron that believed he could change society by bombing office cubicles and attributed economic downturns to women entering a workforce because he hated women and not because of banks controlling the economies of countries.
newbie is new. You need to go back or lurk moar.
I find this hilarious, our FC has a discord but it's all ex-WoW boomers and mostly people will post there maybe 2-5 times a week. Usually because you can actually post media on there. And outside of planned events, FC chat is always busier and nobody asks for roulettes etc. outside the game.
Makes me wonder if in other FCs' Discords people just don't use the FC chat at all.
With the one I joined their discord was just people posting their modded characters and pretending to act excessively feminine. Was seriously creepy.
My FC is practically the same. What annoys me most is when there’s 4 in a party using the FC chat for an irrelevant conversation that would be better spent in the party chat. I always hide the log window cause they ramble on about stupid shit I don’t need to know
If it was TeamSpeak or Ventrillo you'd be pissing and cumming in joy but because it's Discord you autistic out of touch homosexuals lose your mind
I'm not socializing in game where I have to tip-toe around your lunacy you snowflake
I dislike voice chat in general but that isn't relevant here because the discordgays I'm talking about don't use voice chat even in their own queer little servers.
These stories are fake and gay
Same old doomposts
You aren't me, you don't know my experiences. You're fake and gay for attempting to enforce this narrative.
You don't have any receipts and can't back up any of your claims lol
Now you're angry because your false narrative was called out
Why the hell would I bother doing that? I'm not some twitter addicted teen seeking to cancel people for saying something problematic.
How about you start first then, provide me "receipts" showing a healthy fc discord.
Not that anon, but I’m more surprised by anyone asking for receipts of all things. In any case, what would you personally consider to be a healthy fc discord, anon?
I'm not really sure, as i've only ever been in "unhealthy" ones filled with porn posting, but I'd imagine it to be something like an extension of the in game fc chat. Possibly planning events and discussing personal lives as friends do.
I guess if you take away the porn posting, it might make things slightly better. I say it’s based on how active and cooperative the members are
>how active and cooperative the members are
That's a good way to summarise it. Although it should be said that it only really counts if those traits are extended to in game as well.
True true
Why would I fake a shitty FC story? They exist and can ruin the experience for a lot of people.
If you're not seeing the difference between asking for server info, joining voice for the raid and then leaving again, and joining a media sharing forum that is running 24/7 that you're expected to participate in at all times, there's no hope for you.
The Discord of an FC I joined was completely taken over by one guy constantly posting furry porn and commenting on it, which everyone ignored. It's also the FC I found my spouse in so there's that.
I don't talk all that much, but i like my FC. I dunno, unless I have something important to say, I rather have other people chat.
When i played, I joined an FC and was told every time I tried to talk about stuff ingame, that all discussion should be done in the FC's discord server. The final straw was when I brought up upcoming patch notes in chat and one of the high ranked trannies used a macro to push my text off-screen and told me that if i wanted to talk about the game I need to go so in the discord.
I immediately left and stopped playing altogether about a few months after that.
Always found this funny when I played, people have this weird conception that everyone else is just willing to drop everything to play with some random frick just because they're new to the game or guild. The fc I was in was one of the larger ones on the server and it was just a glorified chatroom, lots of people always talking and if you actually communicated you might get sucked into one of the sub group's(or cliques as people liked to reeeee about back then) linkshells and do content consistently with those people. But it was common for people to leave after a few weeks because "the guild doesn't do enough together, muh cliques, etc" Like what the hell do you expect us to do as a guild with so many different timezones and few activities that more than 8 people can do together? Go to eureka and get assimilated into the afk train while we shoot the shit in game chat or discord??? I imagine those kinds of people probably did not last long in the game finding out almost every other guild is going to be just like that.
I game alone.
>complain about no friends once on Ganker
>some anon tells me to stop being a gay, and add him on dis*ord
>i download it make an account and add him, we talk a little bit
>haven't talked since then
i want to ralk to him cause im lonely but i never had friends so idk how to start convos. what the frick am i supposed to say ? how the frick do you talk to friends ??
>'yo'
>hows it been?
>whatcha up to?
>*link to mutually liked weird porn*
>>'yo'
>>hows it been?
up to?
thanks I'll try that
>>*link to mutually liked weird porn*
can i actually do that ? im 65% sure friends don't talk/share porn. i also don't know what he likes
Jesus. Is this the level of social moronation on Ganker?
Doesn't matter if you talk to people if your vibes are off
It's not fun with friends because you can't actually group up for the majority of the 300 hour storyline.
It's not fun alone because the 300 hour storyline consiste almost entirely of teleporting to talk to NPCs and watching unvoiced cutscenes consisting of characters doing stock emotes with the very rare quest where you walk into a purple circle and kill three zero difficulty mobs.
It's not fun and you shouldn't play this garbage. Ganker only likes it for the porn and ERP.
both ways and i often prefer playing by myself
there are only 2 friends i would like to play with at all times
Stefano, come sta quella lurida cagna della tua ragazza?
destiny 2 is pretty nice for talking to people because it actually has voice chat, and an fps audience is better than standard mmo audience. finding a clan can be a pain though i'm looking for a new one now. i got invited by standing around in the tower but sadly that clans ending soon because the main guys left and not many log on now. right now its literally my one socialising possibility.
No it's not. Destiny 2 is the most anti social game that literally requires social interaction I've ever played.
thats every mmo these days, exceptions exist depending on who you encounter.
why won't my sensei play with me
Cause you touch yourself at night
newbie here, I got a mic and I got the game, how do I make a friend?
If this doesn't work I'm just going to kill myself but hey I'll try my best beforehand
Play on crystal, data center travel to Balmung, make a sexy character, get Dalamud and plugins so you can mod your character, get mare lamentorum
uh sure ok
>make a sexy character
>implying that matters
people will try to erp with anything on balmung, even aggressively unsexy characters. Maybe even more so.
Just caused a DD wipe. Not logging in until May.
that image lmao
what did you do?
was it EO or HoH/PotD?
EO. I got too wienery and charged into a room to multipull. Got fricked by multiple traps and a bot wombocombo'd me and my team to death.
eh it happens
was it a 30-100 run?
today i wiped a p8s group by going for a gcd and petrifying everyone, as soon as someone left i pressed o and left the party faster than i joined
Nah just a 21-30 group. Still feel embarrassed though.
>want to play blu for moogle tome events and achievements
>lol you fricking moron you're supposed to have friends now go spend 40 hours mindlessly pressing 2 keys
I didn't want to play blu anyway.
most of the game is a solo RPG
for end game, it is more fun with friends but friends add nothing until that point
>starting next Monday Prae will give 7 irregular tomestones for completion
Jesus Christ wtf is wrong with these asiatics?
Prae always gives 7 during irregular tome events.
Why do they love these 3 dungeons so much?
To mess with you maybe, idk
They know people will want the most tomes fast so the pit Prae as having the most to give but you must be forced to sit through the cutscenes without being able to skip anything
It can be draining running it constantly, too
Why complain? It's easy tomestones.
I have played this dungeon every single day for the last few months. I can write it’s entire script by hand.
What’s your thought on glams centered around the 2Butts?
You like 2Butts, right anon?
2butt? I'm more interested in this cute lala clown
The Nier Automata raid series and its consequences have been a disaster for the ffxiv community.
>The modding community and its consequences have been a disaster for the ffxiv community.
FTFY!
Both of these statements are correct.
>tumor ass cheeks
2Butts are great and I love them.
They need to do more than just put the 2Butt on display. They need to frame it with a good top/boot combination. 2Butt on its own is just boring.
Centered? No. Glams that leave it just hanging out are some low tier garbage. I always put mine underneath a robe or a dress so when I cast as spell and it flitters up I get a quick peek at that fat ass.
It's not even fat. It's an okay healthy butt. But without 2b leggings female characters have negative ass, it's insane.
You can barely play it with friends because everything before end game is a single player story quest with heaps of instancing. Then end game is playing simon says with a group for some gear that becomes obsolete after a few months.
What's Mare? I keep seeing people talking about it, and at first I thought they were just talking about the actual zone or some kinda free company, but now i'm thinking it's not that
It's a plugin that allows you to see the mods other players are using if they give you a code to let you into their secret little club.
As in it gives you a list? Or as in it lets you see their modded character? If it's that latter that's pretty neat, assuming you don't need to install those mods, although i'd have no interest in using it.
It lets you see their modded character.
It's used in combination with another plugin, so all mods are unique to everyone's characters (using textools applies mods to everyone). I'm not sure how it handles downloading other players mods, my job is only to be aware of these things.
>my job is only to be aware of these things
why
but mare sounds like a timebomb, especially because I'm pretty sure there are 'venues' that have these code shares
it would take 1 person to make something malicious and infect a bunch of people, idk how feasible this is, I think it's dangerous as hell
I guess it's fitting though, bunch of idiots getting stds kind of deal
>but mare sounds like a timebomb
the dev used to make a big deal out of how malicious code execution via mods was a possibility and how you should only sync with people you know and trust but then he did a complete 180 and made syncshells so you can be synced with perfect strangers and never know when someone joins the shell until its possibly too late. Apparently there was an update for penumbra/textools that fixed an identified vector for code execution but we'll just have to wait and see if they patched all the holes
That cat on the left looks really really cute in that glam, but man that after photo kinda just looks like second life
The average XIV player's shit taste will never cease to amaze me
the femezen on the right looks like it was stretched horizontally for no reason.
looks so fricking wide
SE needs to crack down on this fricking shit
Sadly, it doesn't seem like they will. As infuriating as it is, those players simply spend too much money on the game.
They unironically can't, they don't know how to without doing super invasive shit that they know they'll never get away with
They can't and they wouldn't if they could
It's money, those people pay and sub to do that
Why? They pay money to sit in Ul'dah all day whispering to people
>getting friends to play with you
I only know one couple that managed this, and they ended up divorcing and having weird drama with the FC
It's pretty much only people you meet in XIV itself, very few people actually manage to convince IRL friends to play as well
it would be more fun with friends but so far ive found most frens i could make in game to be terrible people, a few were cool, but their coolness was ruined by morons that they constantly include in parties or that will overtake any FC. also playing witb irl friends sucks bc theres always the chance they dont like it or ruin the mood. on the flip side though, its pretty enjoyable going it on your own. its just a shame multiplayer can really be so much more trouble than its worth, i had high hopes
Jesus Christ
How does that register as attractive in someone's brain
It's just a Malera.... what's the issue?
stop jerking off to porn, its harmful
I will never stop.
>stop jerking off to porn, its harmful
While that's debateable, making it into a social activity certainly is. This game's community is evidence of that.
sex with Khloe Aliapoh
Frick femra
too busy fricking femlala
But I don't like men
I prefer the bunnies
I like their tails.
Don't post femras, the lalas spammers won't like it
In what universe? Do you think that just because I nut to lalas, that I am incapable of being attracted to anything else?
Is the HW relic grind as annoying as the ARR?
Not at all
Way less grind
>Hit lv70 on SMN
>Get no new buttons to press from now on
How weird.
SMN is the best designed job in EW
Honestly all the jobs I've been playing feel pretty great.
Yeah, but phoenix comes off of the same button as Bahamut and the summons are just summon upgrades.
If it's a choice between this and ARR SMN, I'll take this any day.
You get Phoenix at 80 and the extra primal spells at 86
This is the future of all jobs. Lobotomized, with similar rotations, with no skill ceiling.
I hope that they held off on reworking DRG because they realized people didn't like SMN and are making it good instead of melee SMN
Wait for 7.0 when they actually finish the job. Right now it's incredibly half-wienered.
Aetherflow is going to get reworked into something that hopefully feeds into some kind of flow rather than just being a button to push for damage. Likewise for the summons, the first time you bust out Garuda or Titan it's cool, but doing that every 60s for a 15 minute dungeon gets old very, very quickly.
I'd much rather have a system where you spend aetherflow to attune to a specific element or combination of elements, and then use a big summon cooldown and augments your abilities.
Actual shifts, too, not just different flavors of instant-cast ruin 3.
Are they actually improving the job in 7.0 or is that just anon's fanfic?
It's purely my fanfic.
We're going to see more jobs become like SMN rather than them dialing back on just how relentlessly shallow and braindead SMN is now.
Please look forward to the DRG and AST reworks.
frick you anon you gave me hope for a second there
Lv 86 give you an extra OCD for titan, instacast aoe gap closer (I know it sounds weird) for ifrit, and a long cast aoe that leaves an area with a small dot
Those all come off of existing skills though.
I'm not complaining, SMN is cool to play now, it's just funny how it just gets new context proc skills rather than anything new to press for 20 levels.
Gotcha, I see what you're saying. It's weird, I actually sort of like that even if maybe a few more could get added. There's a number of other classes that have a few too many "why is this even a skill instead of being a trait or lumped into something else"-type skills which I think are leftover from just trying to find shit to add to classes for various expansions. Few of them could use some cleanup.
>SMN is cool to play now
I'm glad you said cool and not fun because I agree it looks really cool.
SMN is more SMN now, that's a plus, but the kit is barebones. It's like we only got half a kit
lv70 SMN in UCoB and UWU is absolutely fricking hilarious
You literally just spend 16 minutes mashing 1. There's no timing or finesse, you don't delay anything, just burn all your shit the moment it comes up. Even the fricking healers have more buttons to push.
I know a girl (real) who used to play femra. She fanta'd to femzen cause she couldn't handle all the creeps and sexualisation.
She seems a lot happier these days.
>She fanta'd to femzen
YOU'VE ACTIVATED MY TRAP CARD
HAHAHAHAH
Yeah, I like them too. But goddamn are good looking ones rare. Femzens are rare enough to begin with even.
Good looking anything is rare in this game because the people that play it have awful taste and are obsessed with shoving as many clashing colors as possible onto their character in a desperate bid to be hecking unique
I see anons say this but I rarely ever see it. Almost every character I see looks pretty normal.
He's exaggerating, but there really are a lot of poorly designed avatars out there. Clashing palettes and horrible skin colour choices for example.
Well normal looking characters are inherently hard to remember because they don't stand out
You only really take note of exceptionally good or bad ones
One normal looking type stands out to me massively and I am so tired of seeing it.
Yeah, I'm talking about you, blonde himecut raen.
Femra are made for himecuts
Please make it literally any other colour.
Strawberry blonde does not count.
Half the time whenever I see something like what you describe it’s quite strange. A character with different colored pupils and highlights just looks off-putting and unappealing if the colors don’t really match.
It’s one thing to wanna stand out from the rest, but eventually everyone ends looking the same if they’re all trying to indirectly copy each other
it's a shame, because it's not hard to make one, but I guess the run animation is just too big a filter
They really need to do something about animations. I changed my middie's idle and run animations to cat ones and the game became much more enjoyable. It shouldn't be that hard for them, especially when there are tons of NPCs that use custom animations or some animations of other races.
How did you change the animations?
mods
Mods. With penumbra. I also replaced DRK animations to old ones.
>Getting rid of the fiddie run
might as well have fantasia'd
I like everything about her except her run and idle animations. The idle animation is too stiff, she looks like a damn robot, no living person stands like that.
And the run doesn't fit my character at all. An armoured knight that runs like a princess? Very funny but it gets tiresome.
>modded the fiddie run
The princess run is SOVL, chug a fanta homosexual
Every real female I know plays Elezen or Roe for exactly that reason
I guess it's because they're not attention prostitutes like the rest of their accursed species
Every real female I know is a fantasia addict except for one who is a female Au Ra.
Only women I know that play this game, play either femlala, male viera, or male cat.
>She fanta'd to femzen cause she couldn't handle all the creeps and sexualisation
Whats her name and world I'm going to go sexually harass her. God put me on this earth to fondle femezen ears
Joke on her, I also sexualise elezens
Not nearly to the same degree my man. You couldn't even post a pic of one.
JP, and you'll get no more info from me.
IS THAT A NIPP-
you can see anything in that image?
the two girls in my FC play a male mooncat and fem middie
>just spam 5 step full thrust combo over and over again
Oh my sweet summer child
You are flat out delusional if you think DRG is keeping anything more than 1-2-3. Those alternating combos are FAR too complicated for incoming players.
Ok we let you keep the buff/dot combo line but
>your 1234 changes between left eye/right eye phases
>it's all completely automatic so you just have to press your combo and that's it
Actually, frick your buff/dot, you just get to keep the different animations.
They wouldn't turn DRG into a selfish DPS but I fully expect them to gut their AoE crit boost into another shitty "5% damage for 15s" buff.
Oh I was thinking of the self buff from Disembowel/your 1-2-3. But Lance Charge and all the party buffs are getting condensed into one for sure.
Honestly I think they will shirk away from DRG buffs as their focus and make it do more damage like NIN, MNK or RPR
They're going to make all the melee do the same thing and have near identical damage other than SAM
You all lied to me. I've spent two weeks on god awful mod discords PMing people with lala avatars trying to get access to lala mods and all they do is play stupid, never respond or block me.
just go to the trash thread and ask
You're probably coming off as a narc and they think you're trying to get their shit taken down
Moonie#0001 is the one you want to talk to
I love my poopnose
Which job do you guys think would work best for a "Nature knight" theme?
Warrior because it's all about Da Beest already
So what happens in 7.0?
>Level cap increased to 100
>Level cap increased to 99
>Level cap increased to
What does progression look like? SURELY they're not going to go past 99/100, and a level squish is almost out of the question given how much drama there was over the stat reallocation in EW.
They filtered out my * what the frick
level squish, no. but a number squish is probably gonna happen. the scaling is nuts. we went from early stormblood to early shadowbringers in 2 tiers
Introduce new levels called Light Levels, you'll still be 99
7.0 is gonna be level 100.
Then they're forced to do another stat squish because the damage numbers are already getting ridiculous, and they might as well do a level squish while they're at it.
WoL gets a dicky wife
They've got to stop increasing the levels at some point, and adding more abilities just because "we have to, it's an MMO and it NEEDS levels" it gonna just increase the bloat. Or if they level squish, they will make the first several expansions feel awful by changing up the kit/rotation where it doesn't feel as good until even later.
Either they figure out some form of alternate progression or horizontal progression, or they screw over New Player experience even greater than now to the point where it becomes not worth it for new players.
>and adding more abilities
They've already given up on this. Just watch, 7.0 is going to exclusively consist of particle upgrades and recycled old skills.
>Fire IV changed to High Fire IV
>Ruin III changed to High Ruin
>Broil IV changed to High Broil
>Chaos Thrust changed to Phlebotomize
>Fell Cleave changed to Feller Cleave
etc. etc.
i'm fine with that. most of the classes play well already. my class only got 2 new buttons from 80 to 90, and neither really change how the class plays
>most of the classes play well already.
DRK could really use something to distinguish it from WAR
PLD is an absolute shitshow, worse than it's ever been rotation-wise. It doesn't flow at all, you have to ditch sword oath stacks because there just isn't enough space to cram them between the other shit you do.
SCH is an abomination compared to SGE, they fixed the "healing is a damage loss" issue with WHM's lilies but not for SCH's Energy Drain.
MNK is still incredibly unwieldy even after stripping away some of the positionals, it has five different openers and none of them are satisfying even in their ideal usage conditions
SMN is SMN, even if you like the EW changes aesthetically, it's still far-and-away the dumbest job in the game now and it's not satisfying to execute at all once you get past the initial wow factor of the demi summons.
current paladin rotation seems fine though
he's being reductionist. the giveaway is that he thinks sage plays better than scholar
It objectively does. SCH gets some incredibly overcompensated numbers because of the amount of setup it takes to actually do anything with the fairy.
>can't gain faerie gauge during dissipation so aetherpact winds up seeing no usage until very late in the fight
>using anything but energy drain is a dps loss, the job at its core is fighting against the primary way in which the game is played because you're trying to keep from using aetherflow unless it's absolutely necessary
>sacred soil does not grant bonuses unless the party stands in it, making it useless in mechanics where the party spreads out (vs. SGE's equivalent which just puts the same buffs on everyone in range for the same duration)
>fey illumination only affects healing spells, of which SCH has only two (neither of which you ever want to use outside of downtime)
SCH has tools that are much more potent, but that's to compensate for the fact that their toolbox is a hodgepodge mess of shit. SGE is internally consistent and still offers more utility because there's nothing in the game that just outright requires spread critlo to survive.
SCH's problem is that it's completely carried by recitation, soil, deploy, and chain strat. It doesn't matter that they feel like an awkward mash of what they used to be and what the devs want it to become, they have the super shield and crit boost so they'll always be meta.
>Or if they level squish, they will make the first several expansions feel awful by changing up the kit/rotation where it doesn't feel as good until even later.
Have you looked at the current low level rotations? That's already a thing, and you get like your 1-2-3 + 2 skills at level 50.
Exactly, which is something they (hopefully) wouldn't want to make even worse. It's terrible.
I'd love to see "job mastery" progression but they would never do that. Anything more than an xp counter gets the playerbase shitting themselves in rage, we saw that with cross-class and custom role actions.
Even if it would work out really well in the long run. They can't keep adding two new jobs with every expac for another 10 years. There's eventually going to have to be some kind of multi-role system where you can play a WAR as a DPS, or a SMN as a healer.
>the road to hell is paved with big lala butts and soft lala boobs
if you say it like that you're making it all too appealing for him
sex with doman restoration girl
this might be my favorite way that I know an anon is very consistent with their weekly Doman turn-in
take the pill
by crystal's light, how horrible
No way gay.
i hate it
i love it
Only if you give milk to go with it.
Honestly at these extremes it just looks comical.
the
>fat potato
at the end got me
i approve
They taste better though, all that extra fat leaves the meat juicy and tender.
I want /vg/ to leave.
These are the ""people"" defending paying monthly for no content in endwalker btw
I don't feel bad for them at all whenever a shitposter comes around to mindbreak them.
yeah
this is my game now
I won
you lost
don't like it?
stop paying
They're paying for the content they want
The only fool here is you for continuing to pay despite not getting what you want
I have a house Black person
>These are the ""people"" defending paying monthly for no content in endwalker btw
>I don't feel bad for them at all whenever a shitposter comes around to mindbreak them.
>by crystal's light, how horrible
lalafell
falafel
How pedos live with themselves tho? If you play femlala you're 100% a pedo and most likely have CP in your pc.
Sex with Viera, Miqote, AuRa, and Hyur.
No elezen, anon?
You marry elezens.
>not a single femelezen
Feels good to be well adjusted.
I never got why 3-2 and 3-3 are on here, they look completely normal.
I wanna do BA, having finished my eureka weapon and I just want to know some things before signing up for a group.
I know I need spirit of the remembered for reraise, is that the only logos I need for DPS? Just more copies of it in case I bite the dust?
Are the callouts easy enough to follow or should I need to watch videos beforehand?
What will happen if I still end up dying in BA? Am I just fricked?
BA is about as hard as your typical 24 man. its just not forgiving in the slightest
BA is solved. Without all of the bullshit it's not even as hard as Orbonne.
Just try and do it on Primal or Aether because all of the callers on Crystal are colossal homosexuals and they deliberately surround themselves with clout chasers so it's impossible to get a spot without kissing ass in their discord.
I am on Light anyway so no risk of finding murricans
Die /vg/ crossies die
not an mmo
single player movie game with zero effort put into the cutscenes
worst class design ive ever seen in my life
Aetherpool is around 70/70, can I solo EO now?
>have one set rotation that youre expected to do over and over and over again in the exact same order for an entire ~2 year expansion
how are people ok with this?
because if i want to be a snowflake i'll play a game that has class customization and is single player so suboptimal play on my part doesn't hinder other people's experiences rather than b***h about one game not being like another
I didn’t even mention the zero class customization yet, that’s a completely separate issue
What is having different rotations if not customization
for SAM you literally do maybe 1 or 2 GCD more in your rotation if you have a different sks. That's nothing.
give you something to pay attention to in combat between waiting for the next telegraphed mechanic
id rather the classes not be playable by zero logic bots/macro sequences it’s fricking pathetic
So play a different game instead of ranting about something that will never change
It's a better use of your limited existence
I just pvp instead.
>have to change your rotation every other hotfix because the devs slightly tweaked something about your class
How are people okay with this?
what are you even talking about
why are you playing BLM
we should get a Gambler job that's all about procs
sadly I know it'll never happen
>procs
raidgays would burn down square HQ within a week
it'd be lit as frick in PVP though
RaidBlack folk are who is calling for old MCH with its proc based rotation
Same, would be fun as frick.
Raidtrannies would have a melt if there's any RNG in a RPG game. Hell if they could they would get rid of all the stats in the game just to have 0 variance.
blm, brd and dnc exist, dumb casual homosexual?
>blm
What? lmao
>brd, dnc
Yeah no wonder why people always complain about them.
BLM and BRD have had less RNG with each expansion, and whatever dps is lost to missed DNC procs is far outweight by the massive 2 minute burst it provides.
And guess what, raiders are liking them less, brd actually used to be the most popular job back in sb
That was because of DRG's pierce debuff and MCH being dogshit. They also had palisade back then.
Raiders loved old mch though, only shitters didn't
>old mch
They loved heavensward mch, not stormblood mch. Nobody liked having to babysit their heat or ruin their entire burst. Nobody liked being stuck on split shot 4+ times in a row. Nobody liked having to trigger overheat with one tick of flamethrower.
Does anyone enjoy current heat blast spam and wildfire? I think the PvP version of MCH is the only type of MCH that people actually like.
I do, I like the fast paced keyboard mashing while moving. It's especially fun in solo deep dungeon.
It's funny, I very much dislike pvp mch because it feels strong, but clunky. The basic attack is piss, you can barely control when you get overheated, you need to be engaged for a fair amount of time to get there in the first place, and to cycle through your tools you have to get up close with bioblaster, which you may not be in a position to do. If heat stacks lasted longer so you could disengage and come back and if you had say a 30s free tool cycle, I'd feel a little better about it.
It's not perfect, but it's definitely fun to go ham and see all the numbers fly. It'd make absolutely 0 difference in raid setting, but I'd love to see aoe attached to wildfire and automaton so they don't feel like absolute ass in dungeon pulls. Sometimes I just hold them for the next boss.
It blows my mind to see that Wildfire has gone two full expansions without the "[X] potency on target, 60% less on enemies within 5y" treatment.
>a dance does aoe damage
>an explosion does not
>Blasting Zone
>single target attack
This hurts even more when fated circle is the exact same animation as demon slaughter but with explosions. Surely now that they condensed gnashing into a single button, they can add an aoe version so it doesn't feel like shit in pulls.
Most of the mch attacks look like they could blast the whole zone or at least do some sort of conal damage.
But then you get to the actual AoE spells and it's a fricking automatic crossbow or a flamethrower that has no actual use or any interaction with other abilities whatsoever.
>Boss' hitbox takes up over half of the whole platform
The encounter design is just moronic. Especially Trials, when you can spend most of the time around the center of the platform as melee and still have uptime on the boss as you wave your weapons at an empty space.
The phys.ranged tax is just bullshit at this moment.
what surprises me at this point is that gauss round and ricochet don't share a CD yet. Seems like something they'd do
>I think the PvP version of MCH is the only type of MCH that people actually like.
Do they?
I mean sure I can see a MCH in each casual CC match, but is it actually fun?
The fact that you have to cycle your swiss army knife of an ability button is the most moronic design, they're squishy and immobile as frick.
Feels like only thing people do is wait for the LB to blast someone at a distance, but that is really only fun in big battlegrounds, not CC.
Also e-girlng at the absolute morons who save Analysys for Chainsaw, hoping they'd get a proc, cause from what I've found out, it's actual playstyle people perform. Not penetrating guard, not aoe slow, not ranged stun. A 4% chance to eat 75 or so % of one player's health.
>no one liked proccing a proc with cast times
ftfy
I did 🙂
Raid balance is where fun jobs go to die. They need to take a stance on acknowledging world firsts, that it doesn't mean shit. If all the jobs are fun to play, who gives a frick if it's unbalanced? Why should they be homogenizing every job for the benefit of raider's ego?
It is really weird how cultist here say Yoshi don't give a frick about raiders and the 1% bla bla bla but then literally the whole game is made around them.
I always forget how toxic these threads have become. Can't have any discussion of the game at all if even the slightest criticism gets shut down.
Impotent whining and insulting people isn't criticism
You're a tad thin skinned if that's how you viewed it.
Ignore them. All you need to do is scroll up to realize that they're just b***hing about their jerkoff session being interrupted.
Is that what that was? I thought we were laughing at modbeasts
I thought raidBlack folk loved doing parse runs over and over again for perfect scores, wouldn't proc based classes be perfect for them?
Parsegays want to reset if they don't dcrit their big payoff. It's why they changed stuff like midare to be an auto crit. Really unsure why they didn't do the same to hyosho given the massive gap between a normal hit and a dcrit.
>post 6.0 MSQ were damn bad. Plain and simple.
>EW alliance raids are only somewhat okay because of the music, the story is mediocre and the rewards look like shit
>EW raids are mediocre at best
>Gameplaywise shit has gotten boring as frick, nobody enjoys the combat anymore because of how casualised it has become
>Tons of gear are being recycled while the Dev team keeps spamming mogstation items
>Island sanctuary? Don't make me laugh it's a waste of time that is not even entertaining because of how it was made.
Did I forget anything?
rerun when?
Is there some kind of primer on PvP? I don't want to jump in not even knowing my buttons and then getting fricked.
go to the wolves' den and familiarize yourself with the buttons on a target dummy
Literally nobody knows what to do in frontline. Just queue in, arrange your buttons during the process and you're Gucci.
Every job in PvP has moba style rotations.
>do as much damage in 1 GCD as possible
>run away
They really need to make frontline 12v12v12, 3 parties of 4 each.
Just hit the dummies in wolves den for a while. You want to focus on burst and debuffs, you won't be getting full rotations on enemies unless you're monk.
>eat/deny ground pots
>dont frontline without purify
>dont frontline without mana
>press guard if youre an easy target
>expect cc and damage out of guard
>burst and cc people out of guard
>dont cc into guard or resilience
>dont save lb for too long but sometimes you have to hold it
>dont waste resources into fights that are already lost (1v5 lb)
>keep track of major cds (drg roar, wyrmwind, poly, drill, )
>know what enemy resources youre fighting into and play around them
>keep track of enemy defensives and target people who dont have them up
>target enemy players with lb / about to get lb
>target enemy players mispositioning (players standing on crystal for no reason)
>dont stack on the crystal if you dont have to
>dont guard while you have resilience already up
>don't cc into guard and resilience
I swear to frick every time I press this they instantly guard.
>roe popularity suddently raises
I found it borderline impossible to play with friends.
>constant teleporting back-and-forth that creates confusion
>map won't show where your friend is if they leave the area
>no way to share main/side quest progress
>the scenario keeps splitting you up for solo instances and breaking up and reforming the party every 5 minutes is a pain in the ass
>job questlines are all solo
>endless cutscenes that keep either one of you waiting all the time
>massive amounts of text that you can't really focus on reading while your ADHD friend's going insane in the background
>etc
MSQ is impossible, yeah.
But everything else is just fine, like you can do everything at high level that a lowbie does.
Roleplaying is moronic. Just because MMORPG genre contains the "RPG = roleplaying game" words, doesn't mean you have to act like your character or something. That's for trannies who make female characters and act like women just because they cut off their dicks and are on meds. They will never be women lmao, they can only cope with RP like one, both in-game and irl
I wish market boards were dc linked as I don't understand why my server has troll prices for something that shouldn't cost more than 1000 gil that is listed for 9 million gil. I always travel to another dc and get it for a few hundred gils.
I like it, it's like bargain hunting if you're willing to put the effort in. If everything was connected, the monopolies and undercuts on specific items will get even worse.
Yeah it feels dumb
>want a thing off market
>check universalis
>it's a little cheaper
>ponder whether or not it's worth my time to go back to aetherite, transfer, get to the market board, get back to the crystal and transfer back
>Need to run Delubrum Reginae five (5) times for the relic
Frick this shitty raid. It's piss easy, the music sucks, and the nonsensical 10 minute required wait period between runs is moronic.
You can also run potd over and over lol
>the music sucks
How dare you, The Queen Awakens having corrupted vocals is kino.
It's not fun anynore.
Finally got home from work, eh? Post the seocnd one and get it over with.
cope
You don't even know what that word means anymore. Also, you're not him. Shut the frick up.
Is it possible to get mind blast by myself at level 20 blue mage?
Easily but you do need thousand needles.
vanilla wow is the best mmo storytelling has ever been
a player on your server is the literal canonical scarab lord who rung the gong and began the war, thats actual roleplaying not dressing up and walking to your friends e-house to have tea
>a player on your server is the literal canonical scarab lord who rung the gong and began the war, thats actual roleplaying not dressing up and walking to your friends e-house to have tea
actually based. now best you can get is maybe a title to flex while you afk/dance on limsa
>a player on your server is the literal canonical scarab lord who rung the gong and began the war
yeah but the gong can be rung by anyone with the mallet within a certain window after the first hit and they all get <The Scarab Lord> and the black qiraji tank
so in some alternate universes (realms) the outcome was decided by a council of player characters who are all collectively referred to as the scarab lords
Funnily in actual gameplay the members of that council were all in direct competition with each other for most of the questline
that’s possible but the cutoff for sharing scarab lord is so short that typically anyone who is part of it was probably due to some cooperation
How's sunsetting working out for D2, Luke?
Kind of late today, trancers
Now post the steam charts next. Damn, this is like watching Simpsons reruns.
oh no no no no no... Dead Game 14 trannies? Our response?
>Our response?
Guess I'll just post lalas.
Lalafell marriage and consummation.
Now you can see more clearly how beautiful lalafell women are.
Lalas are disgusting, scale them to a real person height and laugh at how gross they actually are.
I wasn't surprised when I learned they made the fat cats with their body.
I'm sorry you feel that way. I like them, however.
Fat cat, singular. There is only 1 fat cat model actually in game.
There are 2
whos the other?
Noname npc that randomly walk around Eulmore
Is there an architect meme with the chais? I feel like there should be
Voidsent sexo.
I mean how hard is it for a Voidsent to come to the Source and just not be an evil dick? Uttros and Typhon assimilated into mortal society pretty easily after the former had some sense bashed into him multiple times.
I mean, I imagine it's kinda akin to living foodstarved for millennia, having to survive being hunted by myriad creatures more powerful than you as you try to find the ones that aren't, or just submitting to one of them and hoping you get the scraps, and everything you can get tastes like ashes anyway. And then suddenly you find yourself in the greatest buffet in the whole fricking world, and everything has the most unique flavours you recall ever experiencing.
Ultros and Typhon are assumed to be voidsent but considering their appearances elsewhere they might be interdimensional rift creatures like Gilgamesh
Yeah that's possible too since they were evidently just sucked into the Source via Thaumaturge experimenting instead of breaking in themselves.
It's just funny that nobody ever objects to either roaming the streets aside from Ultros being a pervert making lewd passes at girls. Reality and common sense takes a break when it's a Manderville centered storyline though so the silliness filter was also in effect.
Some girl in my fc posted a selfie and cropped out her feet as she doesn't like perverts looking at her feet but left her cleavage.
>cropped out her feet as she doesn't like perverts looking at her feet
most likely sells pics of her feet and doesn't want anyone to get them for free and leak them on the internet
That's honestly a smart choice and you are only upset because you are one of those creeps
what is the point of duty finder if i can grind out dungeons via npcs without the 10 minute wait time
NPCs are slower.
NPCs are like half the speed. So even when you add in a 10min queue it's still faster to run with people.
I think the problem is that most mmo and final fantasy players fundamentally don’t understand what ‘role playing’ really is
role playing is when you are acting as if you are your character, understanding what they would be thinking in the context of the game world theyre in and what they’re experiencing
a role playing game should attempt to align the players wants and needs with the characters wants and needs such that its very easy to get into a basic understanding of your characters mindset by just playing the game
see: eve online, when some boomer logs into eve and starts preparing to haul e-freight across the galaxy hes roleplaying
words evolve over time
the term roleplaying game now means any game where you can spec your character
that’s less the word evolving and more the concept degrading
I think it stems from it being a JRPG, which is a genre that doesn't actually engender any roleplaying. You're reading a prewritten story with very little input on your part, and XIV continues this.
XIV is shit for fantasy role playing
Troons buy houses, effectively locking themselves into a monthly sub, only to turn them into "clubs" so other permanently online losers can use them to imagine what night life might look like
You dont RP as a knight. You get to RP and see others RP as scantily clad catgirls played by 35 year old men
50% ass by bodyweight.
el modé vermino
>Play MMORPG
>RPG part has actual story/plot
>RP community has decided not to act like the MC of that story/plot
>Instead of fantasy setting, RP community is based in bars/strip-clubs/cafes/restaurant with others.
Immersion hurt itself in its confusion!
>elites hang out at a secluded spot and do moronic degenerate shit
How unheard of.
there is some actual RP that doesn't involve that shit in the game, but it's few and far in-between and segregated into RP "communities"
I just wander around with the RP tag on and do my own thing.
What FFXIV needs is an RP world that's actually RP driven. I can't stress how much the game suffers from lack of lore adherence or players being too interested in the real world. I just want ARR fantasy kino. The game has the best zones in ARR.
The ARR areas are barren wastelands.
>Garleans call Eorzeans uncultured, primitive and savages.
>Most of Eorzeans have the regalia car (ff15) or the fenrir bike (ff7).
>Clubs/bars, weird lights and visuals
>Out-of-time glam with outfits that look more modern/irl than fantasy/in-game
Even the game's NPCs are morons
okay that's epic
>XIV RP is hanging out in clubs/taverns
>WoW RP is sitting on a bench in Cathedral District/Lion's Rest while military RPers spam their /yell macros
MMO RP is dead and it hurts.
You forgot the trans parades.
what's wrong about transformers having rights?
Yeah that's very in-character, especially on a dedicated RP realm.
https://streamable.com/128jxh
Daily Zodiark trancer thread
>zodiark out of nowhere
venutjobs are mentally ill
>ok that's a report
>average "say word money stolen" poster
Feels good mang.
>when you meet a 3man premade in a dungeon roulette
I guess that explains it as my adventure plate is kinda douche.
Dead game
Dead thread
Nooooo don't say that! You'll make YoshitPiss cry on the next LiveLetter!
I wonder how the brain of someone that continually posts the same things every thread and somehow believes that calling people schizophrenic for pointing out that he's obviously the same person will make them suddenly believe that it's actually a large group works
welcome to roleplaying
A healthy blend of both. A lot of the content is best played solo since it's a lot of reading and the best experience is far from linear (do the sidequests, homosexual, or the MSQ comes off as rushed and lacking impact). But you need those dungeons and stuff to break up the monotony and they're also a lot of fun. But try running dungeons all day. It will make you want to quit the game.
Keep it blended for maximum fun and longevity.
Which is harder? UCOB or UWU?
Finding a static of non-shitters for either of those 2
Depends on the role. UWU is overall rigid to hell and melee DPS has literally nothing to do the whole fight apart from share 1 orb, but overall the fight has all of its difficulty backloaded into Ultima, with Annihilation Suppression being harder than literally anything in UCOB. UCOB has a harder 1st phase and a big wall in the form of the nonsensical Nael quotes, but even the hardest mechanics (Blackfire, Heavensfall, Grand Octet) are all fairly easy and simple compared to Annihilation or Suppression, and Goldie is a joke. The only reason why shitters think UCOB is harder is the memories of other shitters killing them with twisters and the capability of a random idiot to cause 8 man wipes, even though UCOB is much easier to recover even later into the fight.
>exclusively roleplay, will only talk to players in character even if they are not
>Founded my own FC with a friend I made in game a year ago
>Have a steady group of friends to play with that are all from in game or Ganker
>Routinely make new friends, have to constantly cycle through friends list and delete old ones because I can't carry any more
>Tell my own stories, ignore shitty MSQ
If you want to make friends, be interesting and interested. It's painfully easy for me and I don't even need to break character to do it. I basically just play this game like it'. .hack// and do what I feel like. It's more fun this way. But also, other games are way more fun.
Anyway OP it's better shared with other people.
Man once you realize how to pick out actual females that play female characters, the game becomes so much more fun. The only drawback is that they're all mentally ill.
I feel like the only normal person in this game sometimes...
Teach us your ways
>emoticons are a huge giveaway - far too many is troon territory but a few smiles are fine
>lack of autistic danger hair highlights
>response times - troons wil lalways be obsessive are reply instantly while actual women will reply on time but not instantly
>they have basic names instead of WoW-type names
thanks, i'll voidlist them on sight
>basic names instead of WoW-type names
Elaborate
They hit the lore name button instead of naming themselves Alex Nounverb
God, he is so cool
Dead game
Have modders added sex to the game? I want sex.
get a life loser
you are in a Ganker Ganker thread about a MMORPG. Please subvert your expectations...
Modders added sex to this game years ago, where the frick have you been?
Probably like most people playing xiv nowadays, playing wowowawa
wowowawa, finnafanno?
eldorado, giwatoo?
yes, they've finally figured out how to replace animations instead of just having static poses
If I'm going from PS4 to PC, do I buy the game on the Square Enix Store or do I buy it from within the Mog Station?
Get it from a key reseller
The story is alright but really overrated and it's just a visual novel outside of dungeons/trials.
A friend tried the game and liked it but we barely play together. It's such a shit coop game.
Elezen>Roe>Highlander>Viera>Midlander>>>>>cats>>>
>>>>>>>
peak contrarian
I'm okay with people who like giraffes but the fridges? Lmao they are fricking hideous, ugly faces, horrible noses, negative asses.
I like the big guys give them a break, I also noticed that I completely forgot about the furry race. Nothing beats Elezens besides maybe ancients, but they don't really count since they're pretty much the same body model as them.
>pencil neck
Looks like shit
>like Elezen, would play Garleans or Ancients if they were playable, because that is what they are, reskinned Elezen
>enlarge pic
>see the moronic armpits on the modbeast of a character
>opinion disregarded and forgotten
Garleans are reskinned elezen because square is lazy
Some of them have unique models but square wont put in effort
Pretty sure everyone thought you were talking about the females which then nearly every single player thinks the opposite order except for lalas
Highlanders look manly but they have good bodies still doesnt make up for the faces
Roes literally look like men I mean it, when a roe puts on a helmet it is impossible to tell them apart from highlander men
Elezen look pretty but their neck and long limbs is a problem which is why all their players cover them up
I was talking about both genders overall, roes get so high on my list because I used to work with a guy that was pretty much an IRL roe, he could crimp a 35mm terminal without any special tools and was always nice as frick.
I just love how regal the female Elezens look and they're also hot as frick.
Understandable, all non gay roe players are total fricking bros
females are annoying extreme muscle women fetishists who need to shove in this fact at any given chance for no reason
all the femroes I know(2) are chill, but there are too many 'big mommy' and 'snusnu' cringe Black folk around
Those are """""women""""", we don't talk about those.
Nta but all femroes are shameless male muscle fetishsts same way most maleroes are shameless baragays
if you thought they are females for some reason its your fault
Ancients are basically midlanders. Some might have elezen bodies but overall they are middies.
Elezen have at least have 2 out of 4 good faces (1 and 2), assuming you choose the right nose (3).
Roegadyns universally look like ass and while they have some nice haircuts, they don't help a bit.
Highlanders have ugly faces as well, but at least they have great bods.
Wow anon your opinion is so fricking different and cool amazing
the 3 ugliest races are actually the best
at least elezen can look good
Both Square and the players fail to convey how good the fishing is in this game. If you just followed the MSQ or asked people around you'd think it was just hook and pray, but the amount of weird optimization jank you can do to maximize catching awful endgame fish is actually SOVL as frick.
>developing a reliable triple intuition for sea butterfly
>queueing on a late night boat in a premade and specifically fishing in select areas and not catching certain things to maximize Placodus chances
>Playing the GP game with Sculptors and jailing yourself with Collect on til the next Steth window once you finally see the bastard pop up
>Fricking around with Precision hookset and Hook under Patience so that you don't accidentally catch shit past Ealad's window
Pure fricking SOVL
Why does SE give every tank 2 mounts, WHM one and the rest get none?
So people had some motivation to play a tard wrangler simulator?
Then why healers get none?
Nobody follows healers.
Tanks are the leaders.
Any time I see someone make a race ranking they never fricking specify whether it's for males or females or both.
Nobody cares about men unless they're gay.
You're not gay, are you, anon?
I like being a man.
Then be a man. YOU are a man, the toys you play with don't need to be.
It's not a toy, it's my window into the game's setting and my representation in this world.
My retainers are my toys.
>my representation in this world
>representation
So you're either a troon, or other mentally ill individual, who cannot control something, they need to BE the thing. You cannot appreciate the fiction unless you, yourself, are part of it.
My condolences, midwit.
I'm seriously being called a troon for being a male player who plays a male character.
How many fricking mental gymnastics are you on right now?
I said either.
The fact you're flipping out so hard over a non-issue tells me there's only one mentally ill person involved in this conversation, and it's not me.
>flipping out
You are ascribing far more emotion to me than I am currently expressing. I worry I may have touched a nerve.
Midwit.
>You are ascribing far more emotion to me than I am currently expressing.
This seems plenty fricking emotional. Specially the way you've now fallen into just repeating the same insult over and over because you can no longer actually formulate thoughts.
Hell, the fact I just said nobody ever clarifies if they talk about males or females of X race and you already jumped in unprovoked to attack male characters said it all.
Ancients > All
ZODIARK TRANCE
>play with anamnesis while I wait for a duty pop
>think about making an Agent K inspired character with the rebel coat and shit
>duty pops, get teleported, all the customization is gone
>look at my (female) character's 2Butt
>save a bottle of Fantasia for another day
based 2Butt enjoyer
i wish the underwear looked better, it looks really awkward to me
Why does everyone go with "big mommy" for femroes anyway? Where are my muscle tomboys?
because the average coomer is completely devoid of creativity
just look at any fricking rava, literally every single one is a muscular amazonian futa with a 20 inch dick
Contrarians, highlanders are literally the perfect fit girls but they arent unique enough for the contrarian audiencr
because it's a 'funny' normalgay meme and they feel the need to broadcast their fetish
>Where are my muscle tomboys?
Highlanders
Official race tier list
>S
Midlanders, Elezen
>A
Cats, highlanders
>B
Lizards
>C
Roe
>D
Furshits
Goes for both players and races.
>elezen
Man they have cute faces but their proportions are too fricked and I'm not just talking about their necks, their whole bodies look like they've been put through a taffy stretcher and their animations reflect it. Their run is a very awkward hobble, the females have linebacker shoulders for whatever reason but most offensive of all is just how tiny their heads actually are. You make their heads 20% bigger and it makes them look SO MUCH BETTER.
an elezen's brain is in the neck
Someone explain to me why Y'shtola is so popular.
I can't imagine spending even a minute listening to her sassy attitude and whining. Other miqo'te like the one from the Sage job quest or Khloe are way superior.
>Khloe
Meant to say Zhloe, but Khloe is cute too
Because I must coom and she's female.