It's over. People are leaving in huge droves and the game is only getting progressively worse. I fully expect this game to be shut down by 2037 at the latest.
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This game will die before WoW does
FACT!
i'm currently subbed to both games :^)
FF14 is still getting fully-fledged content patches on a regular schedule (5 major content patches per expansion)
WoW, on the other hand, has gone from releasing 3 content patches (BFA) to 2 per expansion (SL), and the price per expansion has gone up $40 -> $50
VERDICT: FF14 is poggers and winning, and WoW is descending into maintenance mode (not very poggers)
A single WoW patch has more content than almost entire XIV expansions. It has more total raid bosses after even a .1 patch. And M+ makes dungeons way more relevant than XIV.
>A single WoW patch has more content than almost entire XIV expansions. It has more total raid bosses after even a .1 patch. And M+ makes dungeons way more relevant than XIV.
how often do you do M+ dungeons for fun and not because of the maze? there are several FF14 trials and raids that people do just for fun, and to help out new players who they also want to experience the content, such as: Ivalice raids, tsukoyomi, final steps of faith, etc. and that's not even mentioning daily roulettes that also encourage running old dungeon/raid content with new players
also, the fact that they didn't tell you about SL being only 2 content patches instead of 3 until after the fact is just... lol. you must be BROKEN BUCK to accept such treatment from devs.
if Yoshi reduced the amount of content per expansion, he would be GROVELING AND CRYING a year before the expansion even released.
You people have a delusional view of XIV players. Nobody is running old content for fun all the time. Maybe once. Nobody spams roulettes for 'fun' its for tomes weekly. Every one of these games has its content tied to a carrot on a stick, dont pretend you're above it. And also, you not finding M+ fun is irrelevant. Lots of people love challenging content. The entire point of this genre is gear progression. And yet you weirdos try to turn that into some negative buzzword, almost making fun of people who 'dare' to do challenging content.
I pretty much only do trial roulette for fun
There are still plenty of people in Eureka at any given time and that shit has absolutely nothing to offer, even the relics look like fricking garbage.
The people doing Eureka are either farming for gil, or working towards BA. Its not just randomly for 'fun.'
>gear progression
for what? what do i need the Demon Obliterator 9000 if i've already killed the boss who drops it?
there's only two options here that work with this mindset. you're either into stomping lowbies in pvp, or you're into parsing.
>The entire point of this genre is gear progression.
No, you and every moron who says this are ARPG junkies that can't see the difference between Diablo and any game system that has "gear" in it.
The more these MMOs have turned into (bad) loot pinatas, the more people have left the genre to play something else. I'd also like to point out that there are more people playing XIV that plays it for literally ANYTHING other than "progression", to the point where the devs even made a shitty ass ad website for it where more than half of the reasons to play stated on that website had nothing to do with "gear progression".
You are not wrong that MMOs needs some sort of incentive to entice players and that incentive is usually some sort of progression. But at the same fricking time it has been shown in hindsight and with the breakout success of XIV in the last 2ish years that devs have severely overestimated just how important these incentives are, to the point where FUN has taken a backseat in the name of efficiency, MAUs and timegating
XIV is successful, but by any measurably metric its still not even close to WoW and is like 10% of its players.
Yet WoW has had it's biggest dropoff in players since the last expansion and it just keeps on tumbling down.
I don't give a single frick about player numbers here since it has frickall to do with my argument other than the more WoW (and other MMOs) has pushed "gear progression" as a selling point, the harder and faster it has fallen. While with XIV it has been the complete opposite every time they focus more on ANYTHING other than "gear progression"
I considered coming back for dragonflight Shadowlands was the first expac in WoW I skipped. I wanted to make a dragon tank, but no they are only dps/healer for "lore reasons"
WoW have four dragonflights, make fricking 4 specs! Make it like the next druid!
WoW isnt losing people for a lack of content. Its because developers quit listening to them in regards to QoL, balance, weird political decisions and trying to reinvent the wheel every expansion with new borrowed power. People like grinds, but not ones that are taken away all the time.
I think its because modern MMO players are waking up to the realization that they do in fact like more than just raids and dungeons. They want meaningful side content. They want to 'live' in the game world. XIV facilitates this while WoW stagnates by becoming too gamey. The side content you guys mock in XIV is whats maintaining player retention without resorting to carrots or FOMO.
If what was being said about gear progression had any truth in it, no one would give a frick about "borrowed power" since they would be happy that there is new gear to grind every expansion regardelss. I mean, people replay ARPGs all the fricking time yet no one complains about having to "start over" again and again in those games, why do you think that is exactly?
Borrowed power is more than gear. Every WoW expansion the specs completely change how they play because the borrowed power gives you dramatic overhauls to how skills work, passives work and even entirely new skills and ways to play. People dont like having to relearn their spec or class every expansion or sometimes every patch.
BINGO, my point exactly and which is WHY "gear progression" as a whole isn't as big of a thing as other fricking morons both here and on many fricking websites think that it is in MMOs. Like I said, if gear progression was as good a selling point as the morons that works on WoW and their brainrotted playerbase think that it is then NONE of what you said would have mattered anyway, yet you are exactly fricking right about what you just said. That and quality-control keeps slipping every single patch, like you also pointed out yourself earlier.
I have no idea how you made the leap in logic that made you think I was arguing about "no content" when I was talking about gear progression from the very fricking start, you should really work on your reading comprehension
Because you're trying to equate gear with borrowed power and its not the same thing at all.
I never said that, READ for frick sake anon.
What I said was that IF gear progression was as important as was being pointed out here:
then all of the other bullshit in the game wouldn't affect the playerbase as heavily as it has been doing since if there is one thing that WoW has in spades, it's "progression" in the form of there ALWAYS being new gear to grind, that is the one thing that the devs have never failed at delivering.
Hell, you were the anon that brought it up in the first fricking place, I used your argument as an example of this. Or did you just forget to look at your own posts?
Microsoft's own numbers pin WoW at 34K average monthly players
FFXIV's incomplete census puts it at 1.3~ million active players outside of the free trial range
You lost the argument when you cited that silly made up website. And you weren't even honest, because that same site said they had 5m subs, which is the metric you used for XIV but not WoW. The metric that is always used.
I don't believe LuckyBancho tracks WoW numbers
>A single WoW patch has more content than almost entire XIV expansions. It has more total raid bosses after even a .1 patch. And M+ makes dungeons way more relevant than XIV.
Can nobody debate this guy? Technically hes right. The launch raid for Shadowlands has 10 raid bosses, already more than the entirety of an XIV expansion's savage raids. Then their second raid added 10 more. Then the last raid added 11. And this is in an expansion supposedly light on content.
what else did the patches add?
What matters most in the genre are raids and dungeons. I dont give a shit if XIV added some housing gimmick. Or some fishing boat. Or revamped low level dungeons people see once a year in their roulettes.
Ok cool
so what else did those patches add?
9.1 added a new zone. MSQ equivalent quest chain and a rep, same as a beast tribe. A new mega dungeon the size of 2 dungeons. XIV patches always pad with inane pointless side stuff rather than real content.
>rep grind
m a z e d
Its LITERALLY the same thing as beast tribes. Just weeklies to make a bar go up to unlock new reputation tiers for what the faction offers.
except beast tribes are just side content and not a main feature of patches
except i don't need to do pixie dailies for 6 weeks in order to get items to adjust and remove the special this patch only gems that drop from raid bosses randomly, these gems also being foundational to player power
Locking meaningful rewards behind reps is a good thing though. You game should be designed in a way to encourage people to do all of it, not just cosmetics. I cant believe how casual the playerbase for this genre has become.
>you should have to spend literal weeks doing brainless chores jusr to have the privilege of attempting challenging content
Actual fricking brain rot.
questing isn't raiding though, and as such it isn't content
amazing
this bait almost got me
Yeah.. I guess it's better to have all your gear day one so you have 0 incentive to play. GJ FF14!
yeah hows your raiding scene wowgay, we can check warcraft logs right now.
pot meet kettle... what is the clear rate in 14 for a tier? 10-15%? lmao.
>raiding is the only content wow actually has going for it
>plummeting faster than a 9/11 jumper
>raiding clear rate has always been low on xiv because the game is not a raid simulator and actively tries to make more things to do in game than just raiding
Gee.
if more people are raiding in fricking FF14 of all games you have a fricking problem.
there definitely aren't with that abysmal clear rate.
maybe because people in FF14 can optionally do raids for fun and challenge instead of having a gun (ahead of the curve/cutting edge achievements) pointed at their heads 24/7 by parse trannies
>you WILL have aotc/ce from every raid tier in the past 3 expansions or else you will FOREVER be a boost shitter
What a laugh, you make excuses for people skipping out on the main content of the game. Oh well, there are more dailies for you to run this week then immediately logout.
>main content
Beast tribes are optional side content, the only thing you unlock from them is a mount and other cosmetics.
>What matters most in the genre are raids and dungeons.
yet they have to dangle a maze in front of you to get you to actually do the dungeons and raids, and all of your progress is tracked by third party parse websites which determine whether you'll be forced to boost or not. don't pretend that shit is fun. people often do FF14 content for fun all the time. ivalice raids are a fricking BANGER
Literally nobody does dungeons and raids in MMOs without loot rewards. Stop with this 'maze' meme. Its not fun in XIV getting BiS in like 2 weeks and then having nothing to work toward for the next 3-4 months.
>i need goals given to me by someone else
>i need bigger number
>i can't exist without bigger number
I israelite the market board, my content is endless. I am above your petty ilvl struggles.
you're already samegayging so you may as well debate yourself so you can show how inept ff14 players are at 'debate'
Aren't half those bosses complete filler that have like max two mechanics?
Mythic raids are just as hard as savage if not harder, even on the earlier fights.
making you waste hours between pulls and putting moronic gear checks to make simple fights impossible doesn't mean it's harder, just more time consuming
>only the content I care about matters
Frick off moron lmao
>B-But wow has more bosses
Quality over quantity.
There is no need to debate his moron ass because he's a mazed raidgay and your game fricking died by appealing to raidgays. MMOs are not raiding simulators no matter how much Jeff Kaplan precum you guzzle. When was the last time wow added something like island sanctuary, or reworked crafting in a meaningful way, or did really ANYTHING that wasnt "hey look a new raid"?
Frick, I mean you guys have had the same repeated seasonal events for more than a decade whereas 14 makes at least minor effort to give a new little seasonal questline AND a new reward every year.
I'd rather a game die honorably the way the genre intended than have it turn into a monstrosity for casuals who didnt even want what MMOs are supposed to be.
>die honorably the way the genre intended
What kind of absolute fricking autism is this?
Please tell me what an mmo is supposed to be, in your own words, right now. If you can't, I am going to automatically assume you concede.
the epitome of
>everyone else in this room sure is stupid except me
>The launch raid for Shadowlands has 10 raid bosses
8 of those bosses literally don't matter.
>I fully expect this game to be shut down by 2037 at the latest
I actually wish that was true so the devs would finaly start listening to what we've been asking for years
>Cecil is a tank
>pointing to edge
>has lower stats in nearly all categories than cecil
?
final fanmtasy 14 is a god damn video game
You could even say it's the MMO ever made
I wish that were true because I miss when my comfy low-pop server was quiet. These days I can't go into any of the major cities without seeing tons of people everywhere.
i haven't kept up, what's going on where's the dissatisfaction coming from and what are the numbers?
better than they have ever been
its just wowbabs trying to cope with the death of their troony dragon game
I'm gonna blame porn for making me attracted to these slags
Hoping for some piano music in 6.2, but everything in the trailer showcased is just more electric guitar.
Meanwhile in XI, I've nfc what's going on in Mizuta's head since the mood of this doesn't fit the content it's tied to at all, given you're listening to it for 60 minutes straight.
Sounds kino to me, Mizuta has the right to do whatever he wants.
The thing is he's done other recent mood pieces, which would have suited the new battle content more.
They better do a full release of the TVR soundtrack. Speaking of, does RoV even have one?
>Speaking of, does RoV even have one?
Yeah, and then FFXIV recycled it in Stormblood.
Wasn't that music for it besides a couple (long) cutscene themes, and the Omen track which was upbeat like the recent Sortie theme.
There was also the new main menu theme from May....
but shit sounds like it belongs in Star Trek more than XI, so back to the classic Vana'diel March I went after hearing it.
>Yeah, and then FFXIV recycled it in Stormblood.
I mean, have they released the OST for it?
Oh, as in an authored disc/digital release. I don't think they've done anything since the Adoulin soundtrack unfortunately. Might end up comining RoV/TVR together to have enough music for one though, similar to how the 6 mini-addons got a combined release after the fact.
This is my new favorite battle theme in the series
please stop making multiple xiv threads every day
no
JANNY'S GONNA SHRIEK
Sorry. troony janny and antis need exposure therapy to help them get over their irrational hateboner for the game, we are just administering treatment whether they want it or not. 🙂
it's an afk simulator anon, they literally have no enjoyable content that actually merits paying $15 a month, so they have to work out their buyer's remorse through spamming threads on Ganker so they can find a community of terrible MMO enjoyers
kek this
it's sooooo fricking funny how fast a FC dies out the moment everyone finishes MSQ
everyone loses interest when the good guys win...... again! bravo square enix cinematic universe!
*warrior of light nods*
what a dog shit ass game
i started my fc a year ago and it hasn't died yet.
your time will come shadowbabby
maybe but i'll still be playing and i have a medium house all to myself.
>it's okay when bobobaba does it
Man, when are they going to add Highland Partitions/Pillars? Doesn't look like they're adding them based on the patch notes. Now I have to keep using ugly Glade Partitions that clash with the rest of the house.
When Shirogane was added we already got Hingan stuff in the 4.1 patch after.
don't care. I switched to TurtleWoW.
Most fun I had with XIV was ARR and HW.
ShB/EW is just a dumb VN.
>People are leaving in huge droves
Good. Frick off, we're full
I know why the OPs are like this but the shitposting about numbers makes no sense; the less players the better the game will be
>we're full
that's a lie. The queue is artificial on servers. Every time I log in on EU servers I have 130 people before me. No matter what time: 1am, 4am, 11am, 5pm, 9pm.
You have discovered my secret, die now
It's just the number of people logging in at every given time, something like a 30s interval. I think it's for DDOS protection. There's only a real queue in EU after patch/maintenance or after a server crash.
>log into XIV
>stuck in a 50-man queue
>log into XI
>stuck in a 50-man content queue
THE RIDE NEVER ENDS.
the fake queue to make the game seem more full has been around forever
the fake queue only goes up to about 35. any higher and its a real one.
I'm not saying more players = better game, but how does less players = better game.
Also aren't there other aspects to gameplay that aren't affected by number of players? What do you do in the game?
>he hasn't modded in Ultima yet
looool and I bet you call yourself a black mage
>tfw player SGEs will never be able to pull this out of their ass
I want it so bad.
I also want a skill to Kardion the whole party
>I also want a skill to Kardion the whole party
Wouldn't that just be a regen? SGE already has 2 regens
It would differ because it would still require you to do damage to heal, and it would synergise with Soteira. I'd also like some other skills that interact with Kardia, it's a bit lame that it's the core job feature but doesn't get used much. Why not a skill to shield your kardia partner, or esuna them, or temporarily disable kardia to increase dps (either on yourself or on the target)?. Scholar has a couple of interesting fairy interactions, I'd like a bit more variety on Sage.
Square obviously isn't interested in providing a fun gameplay experience, just look at PvP
I want the custom Rescue also. No sliding bullshit, you just appear there.
I assume in 7.0 we'll get a Synastry-like cooldown that lets us put Kardia on one extra person for a limited amount of time.
>modding in a spell you're not strong enough to get yet
pathetic
So I was checking speedruns for the game because i want to make an alt and it seems the game takes 72 hours to complete if you skip all cutscenes
Less time if you make use of daily roulettes to boost XP when needed vs. grinding dry on the rested XP.
Yeah also this speedrunner say he was playing in a prefered server but he didn't use any earrings
That’s bullshit. I did the whole game with skipping under 28 hours.
>turn game into a 3D avatar based erotic roleplaying game
>surprised when the bulk of videogame players, the people who arent pedophilic incel trannies, stop playing the game
many such cases with different flavors
One day they will focus again in gameplay. Just it may not be in this lifetime.
less people have played endwalker than have played fricking octopath travellers lmao
Hmm, you gave the game an at latest ten more years? Fair. That's actually pretty good. Since that would be around the time they make the next FF MMO. I'm all for knowing when to move on, and Yoshida would probably be fine with it, since he doesn't like stagnation.
Yoshida doesn't believe MMO's in FFXIV's style can still survive. He sees the current game as a last hurrah of a bygone era, but no CFO would even risk greenlighting such a project again nowadays. It's all gacha and F2P microtransaction live service with instant gratification that's the future.
Just got the 2b leggings, now I can put bis bawdglam on Ameliance
Elezen hempen camise dyed red with Catoblepas Horns?
That'll make Fourchenault blush for sure.
>horns
gay
I love being lalafell.
Makes the game more fun.
Not a huge fan of lalafell myself, but I can appreciate how being small makes them and the mounts that size scale look way faster.
Only lalafells can be true onion knights.
I hope they're throwing in more stuff in the vendor for crystals, because just that dragon as the major reward to go for in Series 2 will be disappointing.
I want them to keep releasing more upscaled AF armour. ShB, and EW stuff all looks good (I do like the alternate colours, I really like BRD), just need ARR and SB.
Unironically, being a lalafell is the only way to have fun in an MMO anymore because of how extremely expressive you can be just through emotes and attitude.
This means I never, ever have to actually communicate with any of the garbage humans who play this game through text, which means I'll never get banned by any of the equally garbage people in charge of enforcing behavioral ideals on people.
Asura in GW2 are vastly more expressive than lalas, but that doesn't make GW2 fun.
there's a fraction of the emotes available in GW2, the headtracking is clientside, emotes don't display in the chatlog, and they're harder to access because of the MOBA interface. it's more difficult to actually convey anything to another player without communicating with your own words.
t. nearly 5 figure times in both games
jesus christ
I've hopes that people will realize what absolute trash garbage FFXIV is. But there is no game that fills that social, rp/erp focused type of virtual world right now so XIV will keep being played despite the mediocrity. Here's hoping Riot games is vicious enough to take both WoW and XIV's market.
> But there is no game that fills that social, rp/erp focused type of virtual world
Second Life? VRchat? in fact I don't get how people use a subscription game where you can't be the character you really want unless you use mods and the other people needs to download them too for ERP.
healing my bunny mommy
Hows the DSR going anons, how many of you make it to the end?
Ultima weapons continue to be the only halfway decent Ultimate weapons
I finally managed to clear it with my static. I still like the UWU weapons the most out of all the ultimates. Wish they would use previous relic weapons for ultimate models.
Doesn't Ultimate Alexander use the first-tier Anima weapons?
>bawds posing like asshats on Haurchefant's grave
Hang them by the neck till dead
>noooo my horsefart abloo bloo bloo
pathetic anon. you're better than that.
Okay barry.
god I wanna live in a bunny's ass
>getting FC house in a few hours
>big patch next week
>all the previewed gear looks cool and glammable
Gonna be a good couple of months to play XIV.
I like the NIN set.
Someone give it to me straight. How's NIN currently? Mine's at 80 and contemplating levelling him for the next raid tier.
Best melee atm
top damaging melee, and top damaging dps overall. balance is currently fricked at the moment though, so don't expect that to stay that way.
NIN is great, as always
we don't talk about 5.0
Best it's ever been
I just wanna let you know... that I am so fricking happy that I never have to fricking raid with your dumb ass ever fricking again. You are the worst fricking player I have ever played with and the audacity to fricking make fun of us on your stream and not to our fricking faces is fricking LOW. You understand what fricking low is? You're low. You're lower than fricking dirt. Your fricking viewers are a bunch of fricking casuals that have to feel bad for you just a fricking dogshit player. You understand me? You're a fricking dumbass little casual. Oh frick it she caused a wipe. I don't give two flying fricks. You are the worst fricking greediest fricking player I have ever dealt with. And you say fricking over here "my previous static said I was greedy" Yes you fricking are cus you never hold. You make everyone hold for your dumb ass and you expect us to fricking pay for your shit when you don't even know how to pay- play your fricking class. "I've fricking been playing this game for eight fricking years" and it doesn't show EnoChan. I am tired of your shit. You don't take criticism. You don't fricking take advice. Every time we give you advice, you pull the stupid "I know, but I did this, I know". You know how many times we fricking wiped to DOTH because your stupid ass? Because you don't know how to fricking get knocked back correctly? And you have the audacity to fricking laugh about us on your stream? I am SO glad that you are not going to be raiding with us in 6.2 and I fricking yknow hope that no one wanted to raid with you in 6.2 either because you're a dogshit player.```
Fricking worse than me and I'm a one-trick. I hope your stupid fricking stream enjoys watching your casual ass fricking gameplay because that's all you fricking deserve. I am so fricking happy I never have to hear your voice ever again cus this was the worst fricking raiding experience since we started in savage and I knew how fricking shitty of a player you were because of that shit. So fricking tired of your bullshit
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Why are you posting this again? You made this thread yesterday and the day before.
based or cringe?
well you're only a PLD and you haven't cleared P4S and you said "based or cringe" so cringe
>clear buyer
>cba to finish the tier
Based ofc
The guy doesnt have any " raid gear " though, you can check it yourself " Lapin Gino "
>1629 kills logged
>probably botted because who the frick wants to spend over 200 hours grinding the same shitty 3 fights
cringe
I don't understand.
>Never cleared P4S
>over 1600 clears logged
>Probably didn't put the one where they died
>Not getting your mount and weapon and never touching Savage till next update
Probably some autist who refuses to upload parses under 99, and never got a 99 on P4S
>1629 kills
>Can't even clear the tier
Cringe.
quick pls anons how do I grind money at an accelerated pace? I'm a disgusting noob at like level 35 NIN but need to impress my e-gf (male) with an MTV Cribs style tour of my home that i cannot afford
don't bother
i Understand
no easy way to get gil at that level
Just bring her on a tour of someone else's house and pretend it's yours, that would be funnier
yeah ur way too early to be making any gil. you could just join an fc with a house.
prostitute yourself out.
Even if you had the gil, getting a house is nearly impossible.
Remember us. Remember that we once lived… Also remember to watch out for that crazy guy Fandaniel. His pet bird caused the final days. I was there with my good friend Hythlodaeus and we ran into you because you got sent to the past by our good friend Elidibus. We went there to meet our good friend Hermes and his pet bird. Hermes's bird was capable of destroying entire planets because she had emotion energy, a concept so advanced only Hermes and an elephant knew it existed. Hermes was going to let the bird destroy our planet because he wanted to do an experiment. And then he was going to memory wipe all of us until Venat flew in on her magical dog and escaped with you. She then for some reason decided not to tell anyone about what happened and instead doomed us all to die, including our good friend Azem who fell into a Volcano while trying to find the source of the noise even though Venat knew all along because she put a magic microchip on Hermes’s bird. She then became Hydaelyn and sundered the world because a bunch of weak humans who die after 80 years were better equipped to deal with the threat than immortal gods who could create whatever they wanted at will. Except the only “human” that could actually stand up to Meteion was 9/14ths of our good friend Azem who also needed Hydaelyns blessing to survive along with my great-grandson Zenos Viator Galvus who had Hydaelyns blessing too, except his was reverse-engineered in a Garlean laboratory. And he was a good friend.
Y'shtola is a miracle of the universe.
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My cat wife.
Truth
Why is she so perfect?
>doing Ameliance's custom deliveries
>reach the lvl81 recipe, can't just use Trained Eye anymore
Nooooooooooo I don't wanna have to meld my gear and come up with a rotation
Just google XIV crafting macros dumb dumb
Customs are easy af, just get 80 scrip gear. It'll carry you all the way even without melds
Nero is one of the only interesting characters until Stormblood but he is scarcely discussed. Poor best boy.
Seeing him stand silently in the background when Cid showed up in Sharlayan was depressing. Stop cutting corners and bring his VA back.
It's a shame, he's genuinely the most compelling character in ARR; in fact, most of the antagonists whose motivations or relations don't revolve arounds the WoL often are the more interesting ones.
Looking at Ilberd, too.
Does Nero even show up if you didn't clear Omega?
He had a line in 5.4 so I'm assuming he does.
Please understand they needed the budget for 50 extra catboy cutscenes
or more dining scenes. do you know how much effort it takes to animate sugar cubes?
most soulful cutscene in the game
My wife Krile!
Criminally underutilized character, her abilities are actually OP as shit but she's always shunted off to some side content.
We're due for another mDPS so fingers crossed she job switches to that and finally becomes a main party member.
Fan fact this character has the same voice actor as Nero in English.
I hope he gets a moment to shine again. He's honestly one of my favorite characters in the game.
>NIN sets usually look great
>it's one of the 2 classes that I have at lvl sub-30
Frick man, I'm so sick of PoTD
just do your roulettes, it'll take like a week
Seek out troubled souls in Sharlayan Hamlet. 0/8
https://ffxiv.tylian.net/ex4/BGM_EX4_Field_Lab_Ten.mp3
I still can't believe anyone thought it would be a good idea to make an extended MSQ quest sequence about talking to sad people have this on loop in the background
I'm sad we didn't get a solo instance where we played as Pipin storming one of the coils.
>at 7/8
>can't find last one
Good luck lotterybros
dead game
Is Lost Ark decent to at least blast through to see content? All I heard about it was the grind and the RNG, but is it comparable to gacha elements in Genshin aka you can just ignore that to exhaust the content and call it a day?
No.
Figured as much. Thanks, Anon.
The content = raiding
If you dont like raiding and having to get a static or pug with morons all day do NOT start playing Lost ark.
New World is hands down the best mmorpg out right now, they fixed a ton of the issues and it has without a doubt the best combat/pvp of any mmo ever made
3v3s:
20v20s:
50v50s:
OWPVP:
>New World is hands down the best mmorpg out right now
isn't that the
>milk bessie
>money stolen
MMO? lmao
Yes, milking cows is a bannable offence.
isn't this the game where you can wiggle around the screen in windowed mode and become invincible
happened after launch, you know like almost a year ago
oh you mean back in the month when people actually played New World
It's also the one where if you open up a menu it would kill your GPU.
delicious Midlander boys
fishbros...
I did it
Just in time for more to get added Tuesday
Nice
WHERES THE ISLAND SANCTUARY
South of La Noscea
Tuesday
right here
*unzips dick*
People dont know yet but they're already botching island sanctuary. Theres no teleport to it. You gotta go to an NPC in La Noscea obnoxiously.
as long as I can queue for shit and sit in PF while I'm there, it's not botched
Wait it's not that far away island on Thavnair?
Its located in the cieldalaes which is south of Vylbrand
>Theres no teleport to it.
I imaged that it's deliberate since it's an instance and many people are interrested in it and they were afraid of another Raubhan EX if a lot of people can just teleport to it from everywhere.
They will probably add a teleporter with a later patch when the hype died down a bit.
Its literally right outside Limsa and 2 seconds south at God's grip probably, its fine.
I genuinely cannot fathom being someone like OP.
You dedicated seemingly all your free time and brain space to hating a game that millions of people enjoy while trying to make even one person a day hate the game along side you.
Not only that but to also have to watch as the game that you spend so much time trying to destroy grow bigger and more popular every day, to the point where I am hearing teens talk about it in school like they used to with WoW.
I just genuinely cannot fathom how much suffering you go through every day because of your obsession, it frightens me to imagine being as low as you. I really hope you find love and get better eventually
t. still play WoW every other day
hey now, Barry also commits a lot of his free time and brain space to defending FFXV and hating literally every other game that's even tangentially related
bros... they're blocking the dancing lalas now
>the one sargantanas lalafell seething on the OF about some black rogaedyn standing in the designated lalafell afk spot
I kinda want to see a territory gangwar between potatoes and hulks
link?
Limsa afkers deserve it.
based
there’s something that makes me irrationally mad about people afking in a spot hoping they get noticed
DC travel was a mistake
genuinely, i like the little quirks each server has in each datacenter now some random fricks just ruin it.
lalafell ruin any suspension of disbelief in any scene they're in and i'm tired of pretending they don't, the story is absolutely worse off for including them in any capacity when they look like muppets
I too, am tired of the raging boner that occurs whenever Krile takes her hood off.
why was that moment such a pop off
it really shouldn't be
Man I'm glad I literally never go to Limsa
/v/ros?? you didn't tell me FF14 was THIS based
the Ancients were all complete morons and absolutely deserved to be sundered
yeah they were commies
>body is intact
>souls can travel great distance
>dynamis
>no minion
He's going to come back
Femhroths...need...femhroths...
7.0
Not soon enough...
The femhroth reveal will ruin everything.
japs geniunely rather throw themselves off the roof or set the studio on fire rather than make anything else that's not another catgirl
>spend a ton of time and resources into a furry race no one is going to play
furries don't play vidya, they spend all their money commissioning porn
You say that, but male hroths already exist and EVERY SINGLE ONE is a flaming gay
Hrothgar who wear armor are the rarest players in the game.
yes I do you lying son of a b***h
3 DAYS UNTIL WE GET MORE SOKEN KINO
there's a new XVI trailer releasing in 3 days?
>SILVER LIIIIIINE
see
Rest in piss
>New World is hands down the best mmorpg out right now, they fixed a ton of the issues and it has without a doubt the best combat/pvp of any mmo ever made
Will femhroth replace femroes as the femdom race?
Lorewise yes, because male hrothgar are simps for them.
>comes out 10ish years ago
>putters along the whole time in the shadow of WoW
>until Blizzard shits the bed so hard on so many levels that their fans leave in droves
>many players including influncers hop on to FF14 to "teach Blizzard a lesson"
>The moment they stop being spiteful they drop FF14 like a rock
>FF14 deflates back down to it's normal place
>14gays act like it's the end of the world and the game is DOOOMED
Why are you people like this?
actual 14gays are glad the johnny-come-lately WoWgays are leaving
the ones saying XIV is doomed are those same WoWgays
Anyone who actually knows the trends and numbers related to this game knows that the game still has the highest population overall relative to it's place in the expansion content cycle that it has ever had and the numbers will be going back up by quite a bit with the patch on Tuesday bringing in a new raid tier as well as a frickton of casual content.
I want to impregnate a Lalafell
I want to impregnate all Lalafells with butter, milk, salt, pepper, and a hammer
Silly anon that's not how you impregnate something
First you will have to defeat him.
For me it's Momodi, i want to breed this lalahag.
>Momodi is legendary in UlDah for being the best frick you'll ever have
Actual in game lore btw
Damn granny, needs mating press correction.
>he think's he'll be the one doing the impregnating
silly anon...now bend over
Why did they dropped cool animations from ARR?
Was it because of lack of time to release game again and it just stayed like that, lazy japs or something else like ps3 limiattions?
Budget issues.
When they were remaking the game they weren't giving a lot of resources or time to work with and had to cut back on luxury stuff like unique animations for non-important cutscenes to get ARR out, it cost a lot to make an MMO, even more to make it twice.
This is the reason for the Hildi quests it was just a way to let the animators go nuts and do whatever the frick they wanted.
Primarily because the way they did it in 1.X was expensive as hell
Their old animation budget was atleast 3x higher than the one they have now and it ate into the budget for the rest of the game to the point where it was actuallly mentioned as one of the porblems that made 1.0 so shit. I would love if they still animated like this, but I'd much rather have more things to play in the game than have a few more pretty cutscenes to look at
WoWgays will forever seethe they lost to Final Fantasy and it will never stop being funny.
I'm glad that WoWgays are leaving. Go and stay go.
If im near the end of 6.0 do I have time to catch up before 6.2 drops? I want to experience patch day Im at the final area
unless you want to do Savage, probably
This the second batch of savage raids right? Do I have to do the first ones to to be able to do them or can I jump in right away
No, you just need to clear the normal modes
Alright thank you anons
You have to do the previous Normal modes but not savage.
need to do the sky pirates raid (HW alliance raid) completely in order to unlock Tataru's grand adventure
Yeah no biggie, the 610ilvl gear may be expensive for a few days
>and the game is only getting progressively worse.
>0 class customization
>Snoozefest instanced content
>No rewards for Mahjong
Not possible
Ignore lalafellin prostitutes. Seek battle. Acquire weapons.
I already put your ass in the garbage can Zenos, now it's time to frick all the Lalafellin prostitutes I desire
I will return.
We're going to find out in this patch that his Voidsent ate him. He's fricking gone anon, denying reality like this isn't healthy.
I haven't been subscribed since feburary, is this new island thing worth coming back for?
I can't see
>That resoulution
Are you playing on a calculator?
>1440p
It's just UI at 200% scale
Entirely you own fault. The hud is completely customizable with each of those things scalable as well if you feel they are too large. Effects can be tuned down or completely turned off.
This is what I hear when I see ffxiv raiding
>hud doesn’t look like this
The frick you doing bro? Make your party list 60%, removed the alliance party list, remove the quest list when in duties, make you lb bar 60%, make your hot bar 60%, remove everything at the bottom right and make your mini map like 80%.
remove the alliance list, your not a healer.
scale down everything... are you playing on a gameboy screen or something?
why do you have the quest tracker on?
remove nameplates of everyone
turn other alliance effects off.
>started playing when I was 23
>game will probably shut down by the time I'm 43
>this is a bad thing somehow
I've recently come around on the fact that her fight is one of the best normal trials in the game. Watching sprouts keel over during Selenomancy or the entire party kill themselves to the Shiva + Akh Morn combo will never not be funny.
I suck at socializing in this game, I got necromancer before making any friends
I WANT A LALAFELL WIFE
That's G'raha's wife. But to be fair you can just beat him up and use her as an onahole.
how do we revive the popularity of mooncats once again?
Update the character creation system. Cat faces are ugly. All the races are ugly actually it's like each one has one decent face. Then you have extreme sameface syndrome among the playerbase.
Jesus Christ MCH is borrrrrrring
>healers need to do dmg if heals are not needed
>the one healer dmg ability is utterly pathetic, inconsequential dps
explain, homosexuals... I will continue to be afk. Thanks
>>>the one healer dmg ability is utterly pathetic, inconsequential dps
Healers do a lot of damage what are you saying.
Yeah the 20dmg dots is massive. It all adds up bro... ahaha as I was writing
Their damage is still necessary to break dps checks. Just because you aren't doing dps numbers (why would you you're the healer) doesn't mean your damage isn't necessary or important.
>the one healer dmg ability is utterly pathetic, inconsequential dps
not if you use it as much as you are supposed to, its a very sizable chunk of damage, also remember to keep your DoT rolling since it adds up
Healer damage is important on fights that actually matter aka savage and ultimate. If healers sat their with their thumbs up their ass you would not pass the damage checks.
>I will continue to be afk
And everyone will continue to kick you.
Cant be bothered to press 1 button and a dot every 30 seconds? homosexual
I can be bothered but it makea me feel worse for how little it does. It's not like spammijg one button is interesting whatsoever
Its simple and inconsequential because it gets chucked the minute anyone needs healing, which if healers refuse to do so, will cause an even bigger dps loss. With the games design healers have to be the lowest in the damage race so they can do play their actual role.
I completely understand you find it boring, I don't think healer in any game is ever the #1 or even #2 most popular pick. Even in games where healers do a lot more those games suffer immensely because their playerbase outright ignores necessary healing.
its not interesting, you will find very few people who aren't literal drooling morons who defend how badly they nixed healer dps buttons, but they still contribute a sizable chunk of dps over time
running a dungeon and I was 20-23% of dps during big pulls and 18-20% on bosses, that's not insignificant
They'll come back when spellsword/spellthief (pirate) is revealed next year at fanfest.
just delete the healer role from the game and remove the timer from healing pot usage
Asmon exposed your little troony game for what it is, a bunch of passive-aggressive cultists where you make one comment they sperg out and can't take criticism.
>plays like a moron
>has to get carried through raids
>players make fun of him
>UMMMMMMMM TOXIC
gays will respond
>b-but your community was supposed to be this welcoming super nice thing
Stop replying to trolls you fricking morons
But the point of this site is to respond to bait
Only good thing to come out of the og vs wow is the shitposts
lel
Barry outing himself as a troonyporn connoisseur in /wowg/ was pretty funny
what? he did? quick rundown? that sounds fricking hilarious
>Barry jerks off to troonyporn
>posted 4 videos of a dude fricking a troony because the dude looked like yoshi
>people asking him how he even found it
>admit he “stumbled across it” on /gif/
>had a huge b***h fit saying anyone would have found it
But the thing is you have to go actively looking for that stuff in /gif/ and he is the one who go on about trannies no stop so the dude mindbroke himself into fapping to trannies.
I feel like the only way he could top this is by transitioning himself and then playing xiv so he can continue to argue only troons play it.
>I was merely trolling, you are the moron
Please frick off, you’re not making it subtle
I get sick of this shit. People come into threads and just spew any sort of moronic nonsense they want and everyone just has to bow their heads and accept it? Besides, ignoring them doesn't do anything either. Have you seen the absolute shitfits these frickers are capable of thowing when left to their own devices? ignoring them doesn't solve shit.
Ignoring them is the best because they will get tired of replying to themselves after they get no attention.
The problem is that you can't ignore them because eventually 2 of them will agree and start calling the game shit, which is true, then the 14 troony defense force shits their diapers and in turn the thread.
Just stop being a homosexual and accept that others might not like your game, instead of giving them shit and snowballing the issue further.
>had a stream highlight where he showed a falseflagging WoWgay trying to make the community look bad
>revealed that most of the “toxic 14 players” were actually just seething WoWdrones
They wish they could be us
Hasn't Asmon been defending MTX in Diablo? Who would listen to that autistic moron?
>homosexuals already lashing out in the replies
kek
what a way to prove his point
also
>they wish they could be us
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
>NOOOO NO NO YOU HAVE TO JUST ACCEPT MY POST AND DON'T YOU DARE REPLY WITH A REBUTTAL NO NONONONO AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH
have a nice day.
Everything he said was right tho, look at you.
He wasn't right at all? I never replied to him. I replied to you with your bullshit post that is nonsensical and completely useless other than to be self validating.
Ok sissy, seethe more.
Shit game btw
You post like you struggle with the subconscious urge to be bent over a barrel. Don't reply to me again.
Lmao, chill my guy you can still go play FF14 atleast.
And you can actually go get bent over a barrel if you'de just learn to finally love yourself.
W-WoWsister, it’s not working… we need to retreat
Whats wrong with debating criticism? Its silly to just 'accept' criticism if its founded on false information. Its like Asmongold trying to compare WoW and XIV raiding when hes literally not even got a max level character. Its like Asmongold trying to compare WoW and XIV outfits when hes seen like 10% of the outfits in XIV, but memorized the drop location and droprate of every outfit that ever existed in WoW.
This is what annoyed me. The guy is already pretending to know everything about XIV raiding when hes 5 quests into Stormblood. Maybe he has a warped view of it after Rich got 7 world first raiders to pilot him through ultimates.
Im not gonna listen to a sell out who now admits he'll do literally anything for views and is now maining gacha games.
>used to go on nonstop about muh weeb games
>is playing a clone of a weeb game that’s worst in every way
Dude is a huge hack and honestly surprised anyone watches him now.
>Blasts P2W mechanics for a decade
>Gets a little taste of Korean gacha game P2W through Lost Ark despite everyone warning him
>Asmon loves 'winning' and knows since hes rich irl he can 'win' in P2W gacha games so its all he starts playing now
>Get curb stomped in normal mode raids in WoW, all but quitting raiding in the process because you cant just pay your way to victory in it
>Just starts exclusively playing Chinese gacha anime games now because money is power but tries to convince his audience he can stop at any time and that its evil
i see, wow andys still mad that a mere content patch looks more kino than dragonflight kek kek
wew. lot of pre patch shitposting going on. save it til monday lads, you got a whole day off for it.
Labor Day isn't for another two weeks
Sex with face 3 femra
ameliance looks like a camel
Long neck means better deepthroating.
I still believe in RowenaXGerolt and I wouldn't want to psychologically damage my imouto and ototo, so F'lhammin it is
>>And you can actually go get bent over a barrel if you'de just learn to finally love yourself.
Turning on your shitposting bot really only proves who is the more pathetic individual here.
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1565340546
why are raid trannies like this
the girl deserved it, she is shit at the game and kept talking shit about her members on stream.
don't care troony content
i just like hearing people get whats coming to them 🙁
what did she do exactly?
outside of being a dogshit player, constantly talk shit about her teammates on stream just being a all around b***h.
I can forgive being bad, but definitely don't shit talk others if you are lmao. welp, frick this moronic bawd
>WoWgays still can’t cope with the facts
>people in the US account for 23 percent of the player base
Just how hard are the Chinese propping this shit up?
>wow's absolute minimum concurrent players btfo the frick out xiv's PEAK
LMAOOOOOO
>wowtrannies already shitting their diapers in the replies
Isnt 5m subs the biggest MMO by far though? Or are you gonna be racist and go "Chinese arent real people!" or something.
they're not
Racism isnt why Chinese doesnt count. Its because Chinese WoW players actually have a different sub system. They have a time played based sub system. If someone buys a 'month' or WoW in China, they actually buy X amount of hours. And if you never use those hours then you're still considered subbed. Theres probably millions of Chinese accounts being considered subbed because they simply have some hours still saved on their account.
1: chinese have a different sub system
2: we can't play with the chinese so its a different community that doesn't affect anyone
Chinese sub numbers are incredibly deceiving, they buy game time instead of subscriptions and any person with any amount of game time is considered a sub until that time runs out, so even if someone had 1 hour of time left but had quit the game years ago they are still considered a sub.
>the sissy can't stop giving me (you)s
oh god such a great day today.
Is this game worth to try it out? I had watched it in Fubuki's steam before I went to lunch.
the story is pretty nice
the combat is tab target tier so take from that what you will
i think it's fun
it has a free trial
If you like JRPGs and are capable of reading some textboxes, sure. You're basically clearing a long, decent JRPG within an MMO world before you get to challenging content.
Doing the story only can get a bit repetitive, but there are various fun side activities you can access on the way, and you can make friends easily if you're not a giga-sperg
post 6.2 glam
I usually just run the latest raid armor, it's a Destiny habit. I'll rock the new swimsuit in the mean time.
>play WAR in dungeons
>healers heal me during bosses
???
i typically put up divine benis on tankbusters but thats more a reflex than anything
Can't complain, sometimes I fall asleep and that helps
Top is raid and bottom is crafter, what's the one in the middle?
Tomes
tomes
tankchads always win
>Fending and Maiming get big glowing halos on their backs
>Everyone else just gets burning shoulders
Looks like i'm tanking next tier.
I’m thinking I should get the flaming relic for pld
I like having the Elden Ring as a backpack
>tank gear all looks fricking fire
>that gunblade
nice
shame about healer/caster cucks, enjoy your shitty variation on white/dark robes #25827
>Another hood for rabbits
nice
>Tanking
Raid > Tome = Crafted
>Healing
Tome > Raid > Crafted
>Striking
Raid = Tome > Crafted
>Maiming
Raid > Tome > Crafted
>Scouting
Raid = Tome > Crafted
>Aiming
Tome > Raid > Crafted
>Casting
Tome > Raid > Crafted
it's not that the crafted stuff looks bad, it just happened to be the lowest in a tier of winners
Don't mind me, just deciding what to play next tier
>1-3 I play GNB
>4-6 I play WAR
>7-9 I play PLD
>0 I quit
See ya nerd
rip
give me your gil
Bye my homie
Good buy.
goodbye anon
to torghast with you
ggnore
Gimme all your gil
If any digit other than 0, you won't quit
Bye, don't let the door hit you on your way out!
Why would you play the same fricking role over and over again, quit this game you frick
It’s over
maple > xiv
>current maple will beat anything
Unless you’re a dirty Korean maple is horrible
I'm literally playing both
Frick totems holy shit
totems are fine
Being restricted to 2h straight farming sessions is not fine
noob
homosexual
level more seyba
I don't actually want to quit so I'm rerolling
I hate materia scalpers
>scalpers
supply and demand my dude, now buy all that IX/X crit/direct materia you will need for the next tier, 10k minimum for IX, 22k+ for X, pay up goyim
I even have extra for patch day when everyone will inevitably need extra IXs when all theirs breaks
You think its bad now, watch what hapens on patch day. Materia will skyrocket to 40k per materia for a few hours and halfway through the day, it will plummet to like 10k and thousands of people who tried to save hundreds of thousands of materia to sell at the inflated patch day price will be left holding all that materia in their inventory that can't sell
What server do I pick as an English-speaking Euro?
Light.
has a few germans as well but they speak english.
There is also chaos but you'd be dealing with the french
These are DCs. Does the specific server not matter?
not really, you can hop between servers at any time, you can do it with DCs now
so pick anywhere, it matters little
I think if you pick one of the newer servers you can get an exp boost
i see a lot of eu people play on aether
>Chaos
has frogs who are shit at the game
>Light
has krauts who are shit at the game
pick your poison
either chaos or light are fine
if you value your sanity, stay away from americans
but what if the real twist was...
>there are people on this board who don't actually know
Only thing I know is that I am going to FRICK Tataru.
How do I make time pass faster?
Assert dominance on all healbawds
>futa
garbage.
>futa
perfect.
>Futa
kys
>futa
live yourself
why doesn't /xivg/ talk about the game
To busy playing it.
bullshit i have made plenty of shitposts during global cooldowns
Too busy licking each other buttholes
>why doesn't (insert general here) talk about the game
gee idk anon
/vg/ generals aren't there for discussing video games
name a single general that can actually talk about its game.
>Sephirot Unreal
I do not look forward to do this in pf.
SAY MY NAME
SAY MY NAME
Grimgor Ironhide
Overpower and Tenka Goken being circle AoEs is fricking moronic, there was nothing wrong with them being cones
I miss cone overpower so much it fricks up my groove when pulling shit in dungeons now. extremely annoying.
I thought cone was bad at first but then I got used to it and now I think circle is bad
>Overpower [...] being circle AoEs
>there was nothing wrong with them being cones
oh, and here i thought i was going mental coming back after a few months and dusting of my WAR.
>"We did everything right! Everything that was asked of us and still, still it came to this!"
>"NOW you deign to answer our prayers!?!?"
>A waste of time, this world is beyond saving, like those beyond saving
>"This is what I want! It's MY choice to make!"
>"PLEASE LET THIS WORK!"
How is Ardbert such a good character while the actual WoL is basically an awkward shmuck who just happens to be capable of fighting gods?
Why did the pick the least compatible person to represent FFXIV for Dissidia NT and not Ardbert? He deserved better.
Zenos was a better pick than Ardbert because the moment you summon Alexander, Ardbert would pull a "Is that...LIGHT!? AAAIIIIEEEEEE SAVE ME Black personMAN"
Because they needed to shill the character no one gave a shit about.
>no one cares about Zenos
nice delusions homosexual, he's better than Fartbert
Because NT was developed during ARR and Ardbert didn't exist then
>tfw ardbert will never be in dissidia
>tfw dissidia sucks now
>I full expect the game to be shut down in 15 years
>15 years
>2037
Fricking clown, OP. 15 years is a long fricking time, and look at WoW, it's still running and still has expansions coming out despite the internet claiming "nobody plays it" people are clearly still playing WoW.
>play tank
>Have to play aggro hot potato because MuH MaIn TaNk died, got rezzed, and wants to provoke aggro back again
>play healer
>Haven't cast a glare in over 3 minutes, I have no MP, my co healer has died 5 times, the tank has 7 vuln stacks and I swear dps think standing in orange is good
>play dps
>"Wow being a NIN/RDM/SAM/DRG/BLM/RPR/MCH/DNC/BRD/SMN/MNK sure is cool"
>Duty complete
I just tank/heal in casual content and DPS in anything where everybody is expected to pull their weight. I'll take long queue times over having to work with some mouthbreather while taking blame for their frickups anytime.
tanks and healer sure like to complain a lot.
>Some dude wants to main tank
>He fricking sucks at it
>Voke the aggro off of him and outdamage him until he gives up
FFXIV needs more mindless grind for relaxing. I already have all the rewards I care about because they're so easy to get.
Elezen are the true chosen race of Eorzea!
all the best characters are Elezen
Games mostly fine and OP is just a shitposting moron, but goddamn I'm always amazed at how badly they fricked up, and continue to frick up housing. I get that it's more an afterthought but could they maybe give that afterthought more than about 5 seconds to percolate? Maybe do a massive overhaul to the entire failed system?
housing became a total shitshow all the way back in ARR when they introduced personal housing
used to be only FCs could buy a house, this meant that most housing wards were full of activity, I met a ton of players just hanging out in my FCs ward
then they introduced personal housing and they all become complete ghost towns and it just made it an unending battle to add more housing wards, to the point where it will never be fixed
should have just kept them FC only and made it so apartments could be upgraded as personal housing
Housing can't be instanced, that's just too much to do, but here's Island Sanctuary.