>no class customization whatsoever, once you pick a class you will be playing them in exactly the same way for all content
>class design amounts to repetitive, deterministic damage rotations, with no other ways to interact with mobs
>longwinded, cliche ridden and boring story where you play the role of both a mary sue and a deus-ex machina
>the poorest quest design i have ever seen in a MMO, you spend most of your time teleporting to npcs to watch cutscenes
>devs are afraid to innovate, so you end up with rehashed content and rigid gameplay. the game hasn't changed since 2013 except for stripping everything down
>absolutely nothing about combat has proper tactile feedback, animation locks and poor netcode bog down everything.
>boring itemization
>teleport into everything anywhere
>almost everything is instanced
>vertical progression from start to finish. barely even an rpg
>claustrophobic and flat map design, invisible walls everywhere and almost no verticality in zones
>open world becomes an irrelevant lobby pretty quickly, and you barely explore it during the story either
>all content except the very end game is mindnumbingly easy and even then savage raids aren't too difficult compared to other MMOs
>very little raid content, period. 4 bosses in a major patch is laughable
>small group content (4 mans) offers absolutely zero meaningful gameplay at any stage in the game
>dungeons are singular long hallway simulators with mobs appearing at the exact same point everytime, no challenge or deviation whatsoever
>faux-friendly community that is petri-fricking-fied of being reported and banned for upsetting someones fragile little ego. criticism is "toxic" here
>The crafting system that gets praised so much doesn't even make anything that affects gameplay beyond basic food buffs and dps increase potions
>cash shop just as predatory and greedy as other MMOs, with mounts being extra expensive
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dont like it, dont play it
Is everyone in this shit a fricking troony?
yeah
i wouldn't even blink at the prospect of every troony and troony supporter being killed in the most gruesomely painful way imaginable, if there were a button i could press to have it done immediately. i wouldn't even have to think about it, i'd press it instinctively and not regret it for a moment ever
ok barry
Next time I see someone say that the trans community isn't a cult, I need only show them this.
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If they're a Viera/Miqo'te/Au Ra then they're trannies and mentally ill
If they're Hyur/Elezen they're most likely bio
If they're Roe/Hrothgar They're most likely homosexuals
If they're lalafell, they're probably mentally ill with the miqo/viera/Au Ra because they're where they fit in most.
>If they're Roe/Hrothgar They're most likely homosexuals
Guilty
And I do not respect anyone with a female WoL
What about (sane looking) female Elezen?
You know what, you got me
>be male
>pick up ff14 trial to give it a try
>i guess i'll play a cat guy
>be told i have to be trans
You're going to be trans no matter what you play according to the pasty motherfrickers that post about this game on Ganker, the only acceptable races to them are Midlanders, female Highlanders, and Elezen
You might notice how absolutely basic b***h this race selection is, I will let you come to your own conclusions on that
>he doesn't know
Ah times were so simple back in HW and it's chart
I am a viera and i’m a biological female.
>biological female.
no such thing. the instant i saw a man in a dress all women ceased to exist. everyone, everything is a troony. EVERYTHING.
This but when I saw a woman wearing non-woman clothes. Hopefully the next right-wing president passes laws that forbid women from wearing men's clothes.
I can tell, because of your Viera's clothes to skin ratio. Also that you didn't refer to her as "bnuyyyuy" or whatever like morons do.
bnuuy~
Another image to add to the filter.
poor little snowflake
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>not a second-life modbeast
you're not a woman, homosexual
NTA but another biofem.
The only women that create modbeasts are ones that have failed IRL.
Nope. No one will ever believe that. Those aren't real. Like not even IRL in meatspace there are nothing but trannies. You could speculum your "vegana" and take pics of your "cervix" with a time stamp and Ganker would still call you a troony.
>and Ganker would still call you a troony
Because Ganker worships trannies and wants the universe to become one.
So no matter what, anyone who plays this game that sends you into shrieking hysterics is some kind of demon beast that exists to make you seethe.
I play Viera male they are handsome and Hyur and Elezen males look stupid. And the other things are for either baragays or e-girlphiles.
But enough about wow.
MMO players have always been weird.
i wonder if a MMO with some of the most feminine looking male playable characters is played by queers...
I play in JP data center so I never have to deal with trannies and raid drama
Elemental is full of trannies It's why I transferred to mana
It's pretty great on Meteor (formerly Mana), but get ready for some shenanigans when someone hits you with the auto translate よろしくお願いします
that OP unironically wasn't. but the thread was actually full of people telling him that he's trans, so the OP deleted the whole thing out of disgust
No, mostly just americans.
Why do troons mod their character to absolute degeneracy in XIV but sperg out when another game shows a little bit of fanservice?
The mentally ill are often hypocrites blind to their own actions.
The same way like modern leftists have the most racist mindset.
It's not even an MMO in the sense of the word, you spend more time just walking, clicking characters, reading text or watching cutscenes.
And the most "gameplay" you'll be doing is running through a straightline dungeon, a circular field boss battle, or running with 23 other players and hoping they're all not moronic ad nauseum, just to get a coin of the week, rinse, repeat until the next patch which is the same shit but a different currency.
What is your definition of an MMO then?
nice pasta homosexual, I saw this in the other thread and you got barely any replies
because it's 100% inarguable facts
Stealth FFXIV general.
Get in here sisters.
Absolutely the truth. You should also include how players will casually and publicly break the ToS, and that the GMs do nothing about it.
kys crippled b***h
>FFXIV is dead
I dunno man, it seems to be living in your head just fine
Who would have thought that a themepark MMO starts dying once people have been on the rides and got the t-shirts
I want to fill a miqote girl with cum until she explodes
Why are the body mods for this game always so uncanny looking
Dunno. People not knowing or caring that much about anatomy or trying to apply anime proportions to (relatively) more realistic models?
I don't really care, vanilla miqos are just as cute and in my mind they're all being turned into groaning blimps so it's not that big a deal.
What hair mod is that?
Because the "thicc" frickers just balloon the ass and thighs without actually adding any hip definition so you end up with these ridiculous concave shapes, but this is partly because of an engine limitation because of how the game handles gear, if you want to make things fit together you're basically working with a fixed waist size that all gear has to adhere to.
on model or bust. bust slider at 0
It's just bibo with its ultra-"realistic" skin textures that look terrible in the game's weird lighting engine
Where are the fatty, pregger, inflated sexy belly mods wtf
Asking the right question here
I don't use any mods but I'd at least consider one that allowed you to inflate characters until they (temporarily) popped.
xivsisters... our response?
Acceptance. The man speaks the truth.
Recommend me a body like picrel
>inb4 modding
I will discuss gameplay again when new content is actually out
reminder
4.X>3.X>5.X>2.X>1.X>6.X
4.0 MSQ sucks dick but it's balanced out by the best era of job design for most jobs (lol, get fricked DRK), great side content, and a patch series MSQ that is good enough to make the SB story as a whole "good enough".
Stormblood's MSQ and patches were bad, but the damage they did could have been salvaged by Shadowbringers. Unfortunately, 90% of SHB is pointless zombie apocalypse filler plot that has no bearing on the overall story, and its patch content rushes to tie up loose ends in a way that feels both hamfisted and incredibly rushed. SHB should have just played it straight as a proper Garlemald expansion even if we just dealt with them in Stormblood, and there's absolutely no reason why Emet couldn't have still been the final boss with Endwalker dealing with Zodiark and the apocalyptic fallout.
All expansion patches except endwalker felt like they were rushing to tie things up
>pre-ultima Laby
>not rushed
they even rushed the fricking music. you're there for like 3 hours and its just a looping 50~ second theme that is grating as shit while you're running fetch quests.
Remove alliance raids. They are a massive waste of resources for something anyone who actually plays the game only does once, as they are irrelevant upon release.
Make each raid tier 6 bosses and scale difficulty appropriately, with floor 6 being between current floor 4 and Ultimate in difficulty.
damn thats crazy bro
I don't understand how this game got popular when the base game is so bad, it has so many quests like
>"Hey guy, the quest is about talking with a guy in that area you already visited, so you can do teleport to there and talk with him"
>"Hey guy, thanks for coming, the quest will be completed when you return to talk to the first guy, so teleport back there"
All with dialogue that is totally irrelevant to the plot
the ARR content is actually very charming and has a strong foundation imo, until the cracks start showing in later expansions
>finally resign myself to spending the dosh to level all my crafters
>get outright robbed while buying gear/mats/crafts
>make all my money back while leveling since I now know how to outright rob people
>maxed crafters with basic gear/melds can still turn a few hundred tomes you aren't using anyway into hundreds of thousands of gil
>gives me something to do while I'm basically just AFK-ing and watching youtube/shitposting on herewhich probably accounts for the vast majority of my playtime
I would have done this way fricking sooner if I knew it just printed gil.
Why do you guys keep making this thread and copypasting the exact same posts and replies? What drives you to do this? How can a video game live so rent free in someone's head?
Autism
I started playing ffxiv a couple of weeks ago because of these seethe threads
it's sad that none of these points can be disputed. the only thing the game really has going for it is the glamour but even then the glamour system sucks ass compared to other games.
0 games do it as well
Look what you morons did to my pixiv suggestions.
I really should make a new account.
Before this thread is killed how do I figure out which addon is crashing dalamud
Transfer to Excalibur and join my FC!
*transfers*
*rapes your boypussy*
*transfers back*
I play a female character, your plans are foiled.
ESO is better in every way except maybe the shitty raids and group content
What's there to do in ESO outside of raids and group content?
Not being ironic here.
ESO is great for single player exploration and it has the best questing system for any MMO outside of RuneScape and FFXIV's MSQ.
The combat is the only thing that keeps me from calling it a good game. I would have genuinely preferred tab-targeting to what it currently has.
ESO works as an elder scrolls game in every aspect but enemy design and combat gameplay.
What's fricky about ESO's combat? I never played it.
Instead of going full MMO, full action game, or full Elder Scrolls, they went with some weird hybrid of all three.
Playing in first person sucks ass
Playing in third person shows you how shit the animations are.
To play optimally, you have to learn animation canceling which has you spam the block button after every skill
It has a tab-targeting system with action combat contols, which means it will always feel clunky
4-skill limit per bar means you're never going to have enough variety to actually enjoy what your class offers
Night Blade is the only class that allows you to use class skills for most of your bar while all other classes take one or two skills from their class tress and the rest are weapon or world skills so flavor is gone.
ESO is only good for exploring.
And even then if you already are TESgay you will hate the bastardized story, shitty sub system, terrible mtx and most of the content being pointless drivel that no one does.
Tab-targetting is almost always better, deeper, more engaging, more fun, etc. than action combat.
Personally I hate the way tab target games are animated, seeing characters strafe side to side while attacking looks so dumb and I can't ignore it anymore. Never really got into any of them besides DAoC because of that. I guess it's an "if it works don't fix it" situation with tab target but if you told me 15 years ago tab target would still be the most functional way of implementing combat in an MMORPG I wouldn't have believed you. Sadly only the koreans are good at action combat in MMOs but I don't see anything but p2w gear treadmill trash coming out of that country for the next 10-20 years since they're too greedy to make a genuinely good game.
ESO is dogshit for exploring because its overworld is more soulless Oblivion garbage.
Easier to solo but probably harder to do in group content, Very happy with the content.
Its all over bros
sometimes I wonder if I should play that game and then I remember this webm
lol
That's hilarious
Tell me, anon
What is it about your FC (or FCs in general) that you don’t like?
This game is only kept alive because of Sunk cost fallacy affecting all of the users, that and there's a serious case of hardcore cultism going around, motherfrickers who play this shit will literally kill you if you ever dare to point something bad of the game.
Other thread is a moronic coomer thread it seems, pasting over
Running deep dungeons with moronic and bad players has to be one of the most terrible experiences I've ever had in this game
It's honestly a little impressive how they managed to create the worst roguelike ever. It'd be a little better if it was possible to do without ever needing a party, but whoops, gotta grind that aetherpool before you can go solo.
I fricking hate aetherpool grinding. Why do they insist on keeping it the way it is?
They should either massively lower the maximum cap for it and have the levels exclusive to your current run (meaning you don't have to spam party runs to max it out before even thinking about soloing) or cut it entirely.
>Pomanders are now a static buff
>blind/doom floors are replaced with roulette floors where you're given a 50/50 option between a buff or a debuff except for doom floors which are always a debuff
>every 10 floors completed you're given the option to remove a debuff
>buffs can stack so you can theoretically have a damage increase of 100% or revive with stacks capped at 10
There DD is fixed, hire me yoshit piss.
sounds like torghast
what's that?
the wow version that people claimed ripped off palace of the dead
the main difference is that in wow's version you get crazy powerful and the dungeon gets easier as you go, while in ffxiv's its more difficult as you go
>chests have choices between pomanders
>killing a miniboss is an instant floor clear or a big buff (and they don't fricking one shot you solo; just make them hard in other ways)
>mimics can be stunned and healers can esuna pox to better balance them being so shit in DD
Time and time again they come close to having good content and just never capitalize on improving it
>hard in other ways
example?
Give them special rooms so they/you can handle mechanics in it
Or just make them as hard as Bozja duels
have a lost action system so that they can do busters and/or other mechanics you can CC since current jobs have no special CC options
It's the damage down that's a moronic burden for healers
Healers can just heal their pox though so it's a total non-issue for them, especially on Scholar or Sage where it's passively negated.
pox has a damage down component too which drills healer's major weakness
Man i love how you can find nice views just questing.
It has always been a trash game. Only with zoomers growing up on it, has it gained enough people on Ganker to actually get it discussed outside of the vg general shithole. And unsurprisingly, it looks like the same drama and story obsessed people only younger.
The gameplay is
>walk between cutscenes
>press the same few buttons in order, repeatedly for 20 minutes
>dodge red circles
This isn't entertaining at all, it's less interesting than some mobile games, it takes almost no attention, and these morons still frick it up and walk off of platforms. The game and the players are both awful, and apparently there's a million people willing to pay for it.
Post TOP clear
>inb4 I can do it easily but I just don't want to
Mano of those issues have been there since the beginning and a few of them are not even issues to begin with, so I don't see how that proves that it's dead
>be me
>MMO addict since 2005
>nonstop playing
>one day playing maplestory, a game i've been playing on and off since 2006
>realize i'm not having fun 90% of the time and that i hate playing with people
>drop the game after 3 years of consecutive logins
>stop playing anything with the words "MMO" since september 2022
>get that itch again around the end of feb 2023
>try a couple handful of MMOs this month
>none of them click for me anymore
>it just makes me wanna play something else, like a platformer or RPG
I think I'm finally free, holy shit.
Happy for you anon. Go and enjoy some good games now.
Thank you
the eye roll was visceral, I felt that in my soul
I had that same realization after a 4 hour grind session healbombing stuff in Glast Heim in RO. Quit the game cold turkey that day.
What the frick happened to speccing character stats and skills? Why does choice of equipment feel so inconsequential unless you're a hardcore raider? Why are potions so useless?
Why does combat feel so shit? The only reason to play this game is for the story and socializing (which I'm awful at).
closest we had to specs and builds were STR accessories and unlocking abilities from other classes like provoke or quelling strikes. people didn't like that so yoshi removed them
also this game is basically a single player JRPG, just do the story and the extra side content when you're finished. if you don't like it then don't bother, simple really
speccing skills fricking sucked
everything you now get as a role action was extremely annoying to level an unrelated class for, omni-jobbing being borderline mandatory was not good
speccing character stats is overrated
you're not playing diablo, three or more sources of armor and weapons that have minor stat variations or different substats is fine for the kind of game XIV is. go find something that isn't a savage raid if you find the gear treadmill pointless
Go play Nioh 2.
Doesn't work anymore. Having RPG elements scares away potential subscribers or causes the community to eat itself alive. Nothing is more harmful to MMOs than the people who play them.
>Why does combat feel so shit?
It's an MMO.
> The only reason to play this game is for the story and socializing
Correct. Get your fill of the story and unsub once you feel bored. The only people who stick around all year long are those who exclusively use the game as a chatroom. Even people who fell for the housing trap can unsub every other month provided they made sure to enter their house right before the subscription expired.
>It's an MMO.
There are korean mmos that died after a week with better combat that this garbage.
>Correct. Get your fill of the story and unsub once you feel bored.
Why should he even bother subbing? He can just watch it on Youtube and spend his money on an actual game.
>He can just watch it on Youtube and spend his money on an actual game.
Persona bros not again
>just watch it on Youtube
That's what I do for snoy exclusives like Dad of Boy: Ragnasnore
I'm enjoying playing Biohazard: Eorzea.
kys manbreasts
Stormblood is fricking dogshit
>go to village
>help village
>can you help us now?
>no, you must go to other village
>go to other village
>help other village
>can YOU help us?
>no, you must go to turtle people
>go to turtle people
>help turtle people
>PLEASE
>no, you must go to dragon people
when does it get good
the dragon people are pretty entertaining
Isn't this how most of XIV is?
thats pretty much what 'adventuring' is anon
now pick up the damn rock!
HW was really entertaining and a welcome break after ARR
actually had me rushing the MSQ to see what would happen next
I was hoping it'd be more of that
StB makes me wanna go to the Gold Saucer every 3 quests
StB is just "SHUT THE FRICK UP YOU FRICKING asiaticS/ALA MHIGGERS I AM LIBERATING YOU WHETHER YOU WANT TO BE LIBERATED OR NOT"
it's also the low point in post-ARR storytelling
SB is kind of like that for a lot of people. I dunno. I liked it.
if you are indeed just getting to the steppe you're past the worst of it.
>see someone use "kek" in novice network
Guys, stop
In the early ARR days, you'd see Ganker lingo regularly in /shout.
kek isn't even Ganker lingo you tards
Not anymore.
It wasn't to begin with. It came from WoW.
I did not know this.
>ㅋㅋㅋ (keukeukeu) is the childish Korean equivalent of the English "haha". Since this is often used in StarCraft matches, Blizzard, Starcraft’s developers, decided to reference it in World of Warcraft: when a player of the Horde faction types "lol" using the /say messaging command, members of the opposing faction see it as "kek".[1]
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/kek
>Finally get to the point where I can do savage
>Find out that everyone is an uppity homosexual
Cleared 5 & 6s with a shitter tier blue parse but I don't know if I want to continue
Why does everyone think blues are bad? They're literally above average.
would you play a 6/10 game?
It's above average, technically.
Sure, I've played plenty of 6/10 games.
most parsers don't understand that it's not a high-score, it's a weighted average
Welcome to raiding!
You're not going to parse high this late into the tier on your first clear, dummy. The fact you got blue at all is actually pretty impressive if you've never done Savage raiding before.
You need savage gear to parse higher than that. Blue is really good for first clears.
It's because the bar you're being compared to by fflogs is so low that being above its average doesn't indicate very good gameplay. In most savage raids in this game, literally just doing your rotation properly without dying will always give at least a purple, even without gear. That's because you're being compared to a group average where the typical entry is so terrible that even just playing ok gives a nice percentile score. So, many raiders scoff at things below orange because purple itself is just a question of whether the player knows their rotation. Overall though I wouldn't worry too much about this because the raid community is gay anyways.
When is the fricking DD pluggin updating with EO
How about you learn EO?
Why do you think I quit years ago
The homogenization by 2020 was sickening
homogenized complaining
Is SS13 the only good social video game?
SS13 is an absolutely horrible social video game between overbearing admins and le epic shitcurity powergamers
2 fricking threads in the catalogue homosexuals.
Keep it to one thread
If you don't play on NA, xiv is pretty chill for socializing
>condense it down to one general
no thanks ABIB
imagine being a pretend janny
I don't know in which thread to post man
Once the WoW streamers fricked off from getting filtered it did.
It only got popular because WoW is hanging itself.
>136 replies total
>68 replies from same IP
uh oh moron bro
Those 68 replies? All me.
FFXIV will run the natural lifecycle of an MMO and peter out after 10 or more years. It will be remembered as one of the better games of it's kind.
You will however still post the same garbage threads on Ganker to try and create a perception of FFXIV as a dying game. Keep going, moron, it's your life to waste, you sure as hell ain't using it for anything wortwhile.
If they redeem themselfs before this expac ends yeah it will go for another 10 years
They already said they have 10 years of content lined up, why would they need to "redeem" themselves over anything?
genuinely looking forward to ten more years of anons seething about the game not spontaneously dying
some posters will be hitting middle-age when FFXIV's content well finally does dry up, and they will still be angry about it
I will be 40 and still enjoying my cringekino anime game.
I think it was a good call to keep EW to 6.0 and make something different in the patches. A patch-only story can only be as big as the next problem it creates will be. Convincing an audience that the next story is worth it will be a hard task.
have a nice day, loser.
Zero is good and is my wife. Deal with it Nick Gur.
ff14 is dying moron
xiv turns ten in august
>*sharts on youre shit thread*
>leaves
hey wait a minute
that's a big fat ass
Absolutely not, homosexual.
they need to have some flashback content with moonbreeder to make me give more of a shit about her.
Lmao that character appeared at the time I was already sick of ARR so I just speedclicked through all her lines and never really knew what the frick was she about, only when reading wiki after she was mentioned in EW again, I figured she was supposed to be a big deal or something.
lol
she was around for like 3 quests, she gave urianger a tight hug, and then she got BTFO.
Every single time Urianger has talked about her serves that purpose
She was posthumously made even less interesting when they changed that Urianger kept her minion in a cum jar
That was a le localization joke that has since been patched out.
That's terror.
>demi
what?
It's a super egi same as Demi-Bahamut and Demi-Phoenix. So it's a bigass egi for a primal named Cochma
it's sephirot you absolute boob
It's like Garuda and Suparna, it's a support entity for the main primal. Cochma is one of Sephirot's attacks yes
ok wasn't deriding you, you called it the primal "cochma" :^)
hehe coch
Endwalker is on sale on Steam for $25 and i'm really considering buying it simply because I've my crafters and gatherers are at the level cap, which is only 60 in Heavansward.
I'm not even done the ARR msq, I'm only at a level 24 quest. But I feel so gimped by that level cap.
My main concern is that they'll release another expansion and the game won't get a 50% discount like this for a while. Should I go for it, or hold off until I finish HW?
I highly recommend wait til it goes on sale elsewhere because steam version has some problems
well i bought the game on steam, am i not locked into that environment then?
>am i not locked into that environment then?
You are, which is why I advised against it.
The issues aren't horrible though so you can go ahead and get it on sale. Steam sales for this game aren't as common so I don't know when the next one will be.
if you're already playing the steam version you could do far worse than to get endwalker for $25, BUT
BE AWARE
you will get 1 free month for purchasing base-game + expansion, then you will need to start paying the monthly sub, there is no going back to the free trial
IF YOU ARE A TRADER OF SOME KIND ON STEAM: you can use steam wallet funds of any kind to purchase game time
there will not be another expansion until next year
>there will not be another expansion until next year
thanks, I'll probably hold off then.
and yeah I already bought the game a couple of years ago, Just never really wanted to deal with the monthly sub until recently. I don't think the free trial was even a thing back then.
>have to pull an Ymir
>pop Witching and interrupt his gelid charge cast
>he's tiny
>I wait
>I attack
>gelid charge pops up on his buff bar the moment I press my key
This is the third time I've died to one of these things. I'm about to just smash my fricking desk.
Prease understand
*dirty claws u*
>vertical progression from start to finish. barely even an rpg
You don't even know what an rpg is.
FFXIV is more of a rpg than most single player rpgs.
>FFXIV is more of a rpg than most single player rpgs.
>zoomie forgets when every game got a do nothing level up system and got rpg slapped onto its list of genres
That's exactly what XIV has so it's as much an RPG as nu-GoW. Which is to say, it's not.
>zoomie speaks of "RPG" in the absolute broadest possible terms, because if you're vague enough, and never actually tell anybody what the frick it is you mean or what your definition is, you can't actually be considered wrong
my kindergarten teacher called these "weasel words"
At least you can skill some shit in nu-GoW. In XIV you just level up to unlock quests or content but not to set some attributes or skills.
>Muh skillpoint attribution! this is no rpg
What brand of autism is this?
Most Final Fantasy games are not RPGs.
>Call of Duty is an RPG
>FFXIV is more of a rpg than most single player rpgs.
My favorite RPG is Doki Doki Literature Club!
>FFXIV is more of a rpg than most single player rpgs.
Anyone have that autism MNK document on why its the best dps? I want to read it after fibally being decent at the job. Was it during ShB? I cant remember.
Cope and seethe. Yoshi says we get 5 more years of expansions after Endwalker.
So many XIV threads getting spammed
what triggered barry/foxxo this time?
Actually it's the trancer discord doing a raid with Barry's Ganker pass!!!!!
>Haurchefant
WHAT THE FRICK
post modbeasts
>>cash shop just as predatory and greedy as other MMOs, with mounts being extra expensive
paying for retainers is the worst. If it would be B2P or F2P it would be okay. But as a subscription mmo?
ffxiv online is objectively the best mmo around and it is better than most single player rpgs as a roleplaying experience. These are facts.
>and it is better than most single player rpgs as a roleplaying experience. These are facts.
FFXIV is not a RPG. It's a visual novel with tab-target mmo combat.
Go play something like Age of Decadence, Pathfinder Kingmaker, etc. if you want a RPG. But stop calling FFXIV a RPG.
Its a jrpg. Its literally a Final Fantasy game dummy.
It's not. Without early FFs (I-III and V) and some exceptions like X-2, XI or XII... most FF games aren't JRPGs. Horrible visual novels with some combat system slapped over it.
Heck even in simple games like Dragon Quest I can choose a classes and/or weapon skills.
Are you saying that you can't pick a class in FF? because you can. There are a bunch of them.
learn to read american pig.
Kek. I read your post it didn't say anything of note besides you can choose your class in early Dragon Quest games. From this I can either infer that you don't think Dragon Quest is an rpg or you don't think there are classes in FF.
So which is it?
Shitting your pants and screaming its not an rpg doesn't make it true
It's literally not an RPG in any way.
seethe, cope, dial 8
you crying doesn't change facts
Correct, the fact that FFXIV is not an RPG does not change. If it doesn't have any of the defining features of the genre then it is not a member of that genre.
>i-i-i-i-i-ii-i-its not a heckin rpg because....... I SAY ITS NOT OKAY
Let's try this, then. How is it an RPG?
How is it not? You're the one seething and trying to force this meme that its not
>How is it not?
No no no, you're the one making the claim that it is. So how is it an RPG? Can you describe how it's an RPG or are you just going to dodge the question?
You've been seething and crying against reality all day, point to the proof its not an rpg
>You've been seething and crying against reality all day
Holy schizo. I just got here.
>point to the proof its not an rpg
It doesn't have the defining features of the genre, as I've already said. So tell me how it is an RPG.
Those are not defining features of an RPG.
>Create a character
Means nothing. The central aspect of an RPG is BUILDING a character. Making decisions whether they be talent points, equipment, or interactions with other characters and NPCs to uniquely define your character.
>Choose your origin and starting class
You choose an origin which stops mattering after the first 15 levels, and your class means nothing because you don't interact with it in meaningful ways. There are no choices to make.
>Explore a world and play through a story
That's the vast majority of video games. Do you think Super Mario 64 is an RPG?
>the most basic defining rpg shit
>nooooo thats not rpg stuff!
The most basic defining aspect of an RPG is character building. Which FFXIV does not have.
>build your character
>NOOONONONONONONON ITS NOT REAL
cope on a rope
You don't build your character in FFXIV. You create a character at the start that is identical in function and experience to everyone else's character.
actually my lala has 5 more int
ahh yes because a paladin is identical in every way to a black mage
Everyone is a paladin, a black mage, and everything else.
by your logic elder scrolls isn't an rpg
You build your character in Elder Scrolls both through the skills you focus on raising and through your choices in how you interact with the world. So no, I don't know how you came to that conclusion.
No, if you still had choices to make in how you built your classes then it would be an RPG. But you don't. Your red mage is identical to everyone else's red mage. Your bard is identical to everyone else's. That means it's functionally the same as changing characters in Overwatch.
sorry but every elder scrolls characters ends up a generic master of everything that can do anything so its not an RPG by your own metric
Only if you make the choices to build them up that way. And you're still ignoring that TES has world and NPC interactions that define your character's experiences.
FFXIV gear basically doesn't exist. It's only there to act as a gate for new content. It doesn't change how you play at all, it doesn't alter your stats in any way that actually matters.
>an RPG is when people can't play the exact same thing as me
That's not what I said. Argue in good faith or have a nice day.
I actually do because I am a Legacy player. That dialogue isn't a result of any choices I or anyone else made except that we subscribed to the game earlier.
>>>an RPG is when people can't play the exact same thing as me
>That's not what I said
thats actually what you said right here
>But you don't. Your red mage is identical to everyone else's red mage. Your bard is identical to everyone else's.
>thats actually what you said right here
That's not what I said. Are you stupid or are you just intentionally acting like a homosexual ignoring the context of that line? The problem isn't that people can play the same thing as you. The problem is that EVERYONE plays exactly the same thing as you. They have identical experiences. They have identical classes. They have access to all the identical capabilities that you do. There's no choice made in this, and there are no choices to make at all. You deciding to queue as a red mage or a white mage is no different than playing Overwatch and choosing between Mei or Mercy. You're picking from presets.
You've totally given up trying to have a conversation at all so I accept your concession.
sorry kiddo
elder scrolls is not an rpg
it has none of the rpg qualities that you claim a game needs
It has all of them, as I've already discussed. You're simply not interested in engaging honestly with this conversation because you have an emotional investment in this video game.
>claim game X isn't an rpg because you claim it lacks set of things
>game Y is also not an rpg because it lacks those same things
>seething meltdown ensues
You do realise that very few RPGs exist where your choices truly matter, right? That doesn't stop them from being RPGs.
Matter in what way? Making choices in how your character interacts with the world is the most important aspect of an RPG. Building your character to be able to leap across the island in Morrowind matters a lot more to most people than going down different story routes, but both are examples of how you might make choices with your character.
You're still not engaging honestly. Is it because you realized you don't have a point?
you've never been honest to begin with
all you do is scream and cry its "not an rpg!!!!" because you can't decide to put 1 point into int instead of strength, while ignoring that race, gear choices, god choice, even how well you manage money has influence of how your experience will play out through the game
>god choice
>has influence of how your experience will play out through the game
>in FFXIV
>role-play in the role playing game that you and your friend's characters know each other
>que for dungeon together
>experience is now different from someone playing solo
>role-play in the role playing game that you and your friend's characters know each other
>que for dungeon together
You can roleplay in the same manner in Overwatch and then queue into a game where you roleplay as Mercy with your friend roleplaying Mei. That doesn't make Overwatch an RPG.
>They have identical experiences. They have identical classes. They have access to all the identical capabilities that you do. There's no choice made in this, and there are no choices to make at all. You deciding to queue as a red mage or a white mage is no different than playing Overwatch and choosing between Mei or Mercy. You're picking from presets.
Thats a FRICKING STUPID way to classify an RPG then anon. Elder scrolls suddenly doesn't turn into a completely different RPG because I copied someone's build verbatim. Diablo doesn't stop being an ARPG because I copied someone's build, and FFXIV most certainly doesn't become an RPG because I can choose to level black mage, gigameld everything and choose gear for spell speed and have a fundamentally different experience with much faster cast times.
Your entire basis for what an RPG is is based ENTIRELY upon what the game presents its choices are. Your argument is fundamentally flawed and you need to have a better point
>Elder scrolls suddenly doesn't turn into a completely different RPG because I copied someone's build verbatim.
Yeah, because you chose to build in that way. The game didn't railroad you onto a preset build that you have no way to alter, like FFXIV does. You're still missing the point, most likely intentionally. It's about making choices in building your character.
>and FFXIV most certainly doesn't become an RPG because I can choose to level black mage, gigameld everything and choose gear for spell speed and have a fundamentally different experience with much faster cast times.
It doesn't, no, because the only thing that changes if you do that is that you cast the exact same spells but slightly faster. That's not a choice in how your character was built. You're still using the preset.
>Your entire basis for what an RPG is is based ENTIRELY upon what the game presents its choices are
Well, yes, because the defining aspect of an RPG is that you make choices. Therefore, the game must present choices to make to be an RPG.
>all you do is scream and cry its "not an rpg!!!!"
I think I've laid out my points pretty clearly and calmly while you've sat here and flailed like an idiot.
your "points" are that you're a moron that doesn't know what an rpg is
You still can't even describe what you think an RPG is or how FFXIV fits into it.
My point is that it's not an RPG, that's all. Elder Scrolls isn't the only RPG and not the only way of making an RPG, it's just the series anon started talking about.
you claim its not but then refuse to explain any of these magic points that make an game an rpg aside from crying that "DUH CHOICES" while ignoring every choice you can make
I've explained my points pretty extensively. You're free to scroll up and read again. FFXIV doesn't have choices to make.
And that's a good thing.
keep coping
>chose to play a specific class
>game is different than if you play it as another class
>deciding to do or skip side quests will change some later quests slightly
>gear choices and melds exist
We both know the differences between DPS are minimal, and tanks and healers do the same mechanics in extreme/savage at this point anyways
The changes to future quests based on sidequest completion never amount to more than one or two lines of dialogue
Gear choices and melds are hardly choices; builds don't exist when the only difference is crit or direct hit, neither of which affect how you play
>its not an rpg because every class has to move to avoid telegraphed attacks
>those choices to do extra side stuff isn't a real choice
>those choices aren't real choices!
cope
your point is XIV isn't elder scrolls
>It doesn't, no, because the only thing that changes if you do that is that you cast the exact same spells but slightly faster. That's not a choice in how your character was built. You're still using the preset.
I made the conscious choice to play a black mage and then to play a black mage that casts
>but that doesn't count because reasons
I made the choice to play arcanist then altered
to scholar instead of summoner then built for speed
You need to better define RPG. "Choices" are aplenty.
>Well, yes, because the defining aspect of an RPG is that you make choices
I went left in mario 64 instead of right. I made a choice. I got the stars in the top floor without touching the bottom. Either mario 64 is an RPG or your argument is flawed
>I made the conscious choice to play a black mage
>I made the choice to play arcanist then altered
>to scholar instead of summoner then built for speed
Again, this is all functionally identical to swapping characters in Overwatch because these are just presets that everyone has access to.
>I went left in mario 64 instead of right. I made a choice. I got the stars in the top floor without touching the bottom.
You see? You can't even debate honestly anymore. You know you've lost so you have to resort to this kind of semantic pilpul garbage.
>semantic pilpul
I think we're done here. Thanks for your concession.
Yes run along methy the pipe is calling you
Anon, its not pilpul garbage. Its literally your words
>Well, yes, because the defining aspect of an RPG is that you make choices
If my completely valid interpretation of your words does not fit what you are trying to describe, you need to grow up and use your big boy words to accurately communicate what you think an RPG is. We're not mind readers, you need to stop being a child and communicate.
Which by the way, means your idea of what an RPG is is flawed. So I will graciously give you another , simple question. And should you not answer this question not only are you wrong, lose the argument and everyone laughs, but you are also gay because you like men
So, what defines an RPG, and what does FFXIV specifically lack that would, in the descriptive, argumentative definition you hold as the standard, disqualify it from being an RPG? Would this definition also extend to hybrid genres, such as SRPGs and ARPGs, and why?
>Anon, its not pilpul garbage. Its literally your words
It's not literally my words. You're zeroing in on the word 'choices', ignoring the context it's used in and the examples given, and trying to play stupid pretending you think I'm talking about "hehe well you have the CHOICE to log in or log out so that's a choice right hehe".
>you need to grow up and use your big boy words to accurately communicate what you think an RPG is
>So, what defines an RPG, and what does FFXIV specifically lack that would, in the descriptive, argumentative definition you hold as the standard, disqualify it from being an RPG?
I've spent many posts at this point repeating these points over and over. I'm sure you're going to continue to play dumb, but I'll repeat them again.
Character building is the central aspect of an RPG. Making choices in how your character grows and defines itself uniquely. Whether that be through equipment, through world interactions, or through specializing your character's unique talent set.
FFXIV does not have any of these aspects. You make no choices in how your character grows aside from the source of exp. You make no choices in how you interact with the world, because it's an on-rails story that everyone experiences identically. Equipment is a series of meaningless stat sticks that only increase your HP and, when encountering new content, will set your damage dealt back to the same comparative level it was at for old content. Nothing changes. Your talent set isn't built by choices, but you are only given preset loadouts identical to everyone else's.
>Would this definition also extend to hybrid genres, such as SRPGs and ARPGs
Yes, but this post is running out of space. SRPGs and ARPGs have character building features.
you are both moronic for arguing about Final Fantasy genre day soo
>JRPG (plural JRPGs)
>(video games) Initialism of Japanese role-playing game, a traditional genre of role-playing video game generally understood as involving a turn-based combat system, linear gameplay, a pre-determined story and player characters, and an emphasis on narrative and storytelling.
Not gay very straight nice wiener
>character building is the central aspect of an RPG. Making choices in how your character grows and defines itself uniquely...
So, anon. We have this. But it isn't descriptive enough as it doesn't actually define anything.
You mention choice right? but for some reason spell speed doesn't count. I mean, slow attack high damage vs fast attack lower damage is perhaps one of the most iconic corners in what I think we'd both describe as character building. Of course I'd zero in on the word choices, its the single descriptor you provide even if it IS very vague.
>Whether that be through equipment, through world interactions, or through specializing your character's unique talent set.
BiS gear comes from different sets, you can meld your gear to change how it affects you. You interact with the world with dialogue choices and sometimes get special ones depending on what you have and haven't done. How your character was built, let us say. Lastly, FFXIV isnt just an RPG, its an MMORPG. You not being able to say, take part in a raid because you made the choice of leveling no healers is directly interacting with the world that the players contribute to, not to mention anything about player economy. Its a concession that the genre has to make, of a kind that even gold standards CRPGs made when jumping from PnP to video games.
>SRPGs and ARPGs have character building features
This is important, because many of these have lighter character elements than FFXIV. is fire emblem not an RPG? is FFtactics not an RPG? why? is this definition predicated on the way that the game presents opportunity choice? why would that be a good definition of an RPG? I need more descriptors anon because as wordy as it is we're still in vague and abstract.
sorry its not an rpg
your own logic says its not
You do have choices in how to build your class its called gear, another hallmark of rpgs.
>gear builds in FF14
come the frick on
>he didn't raid with 1.90 gcd sam
you've been pussy whipped by metagays into not having fun
these homieS
THESE 100% black BABOON Black folk
haven't felt the joy of Piano monk with speed melds being given the arrow
>b-but it's no-no-not via-a-a-ble
I will fricking demolish these homosexuals with my bare hands.
good old times where you run out of tp because of speed
Then it could be like an MMO where you ask another NIN for something unique they could provide (goad) by virtue of them being a different class with different specialties
>implying ninjas ever goaded anyone but themselves
haha imagine unique tools for classes in an RPG
>an RPG is when people can't play the exact same thing as me
did everyone who played steath archer not play an RPG
>but it'll never be the same as someone else's stealth archer
I put 1 quickcast materia in my lvl 50 hat that I wore to 70
I also did the black mage quest so I unlocked the special dialogue option during the garlemald storyline btw
I bet he doesn't even know that meteor survivor characters have some story differences compared to ARR characters
>identical in function
Nope not true. You can be a healer a tank or a dps.
>Overwatch is an RPG because you can queue as Tracer or Widowmaker
Everyone has access to every class. Everyone's character is identical.
>Its only a rpg if some people aren't allowed to play some of the classes
You what m8?
No one can PVP like I can.
Super Mario 64 is a role-playing game. You are playing the role of Mario. Now suck my balls.
>Create a character
>Choose your origin and starting class
>Explore a world and play through a story
Okay there so how is it not one?
Yeah no shit, a MOBA has more depth to its gameplay. After Stormblood launched it became clear nothing would ever change (for the better) in this game.
Whoever is trying to start arguments about whether XIV and Final Fantasy counts as an RPG in multiple FFXIV threads all at once, I wish you a very merry have a nice day
look you can think that FFXIV is a good game or whatever but this shit isn't a RPG
Wishing you a Happy Marchdays and a merry have a nice day
Who is more delusional?
>FFXIV is dead
or
>*insert game here* is the new WoW killer!
XIV is dead is the most delusional take
WoW is the new WoW killer is just a fact
I will never get the WoW comparison. WoW was a behemoth and a world wide phenomenon.
>12 million active subs on it's peak
>18 years old and still strong for this age
>XIV had 900k active characters on it's peak
XIV is healthy for a mmo in the current year but will never reach the glory days of the 00s.
It's like fighting as a 20 year old lightweight boxer and 80 year old heavyweight ex-champion retirement home.
you don't understand why two of the same genre get compared?
*a not and
The WoW comparison comes mainly from the "cultural hegemony" or "MMO dominance" factor. Hell, scope Ganker's catalog from time to time; there are FFXIV threads up a lot of the time, and rarely if ever is there a positive WoW thread. Though it gets funny because the mods for Ganker are still insanely pro-WoW a decade later, and some will snipe down FFXIV threads on sight.
XIV has had way more active characters than 900k at its peak, but not that much.
nothing will reach the early wow numbers, people are completely delusional if they expect this to ever happen
FFXIV has 1.2M characters at endgame, meaning that's how many have completed all MSQ content and gotten the final achievement and minion for completing 6.0.
It has 42M active subs.
I'd say probably like 2 mil subs in EU/NA/JP.
No idea about KR/CH
no, those are the official stats from the game. They do a yearly census.
The number of endgame characters can be scraped from the database they keep online of every character, and shows what achievements, emotes, mounts, and minions they have. Anyone can confirm this.
XIV has 24m active subs. why are you lying?
actually it has 500million subs.
FF14 isnt dead, but the cracks are showing after a phase of mega drone shilling.
Bro its the highest sub count its ever had in patch season
yeah sure
FFXIV made me hate story heavy games. After Shadowbringers I was so exhausted with all the bullshit that I had to read that I only play "gameplay heavy" games now.
But I've discovered roguelikes or racing simulations and how much fun I can have with this genres.
Same, I can't remember the last time I actually watched a cutscene in a game in years
I've managed to play tons of fun games in the interim and don't regret it one bit
By absorbing the story of games you can broaden your mind in the way that you might by reading a book or watching a movie. Imagine all the bits of wisdom you could have gained.
I don't think there's much to glean from characters emoting at each other
Remember: If you've been playing XIV since ARR launched, you've been playing it longer than XI had been available in the US at the time ARR launched.
>it took 5 expansions for wow to turn shit in wod
>ff14 does it in only 4 expansions
wow ff14 wins again
>5
you mean 3
WoWs been falling off since Wrath ended
>frame of reference on "real" RPGs is exclusively 90s and early 'aughts WRPGs
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EVERY
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>examples closer to the origin of the genre are more mechanically pure than later entries which cut out vital features to appeal to a wider audience
>this is wrong because uhh.....
??? You okay man?
because video games are fundamentally different from pen and paper
>WoW sucks
>FF14 sucks now
Is Lost Ark any good?
Yes, you should play it.
no it sucks because it's pay2win or a Korean MMO grindfest
don't listen to the xiv shill. it's a great game. go play it
no
It's a fantastic game and well worth your time.
I've done mostly everything I've wanted to in this game sadly. Sad to see how different things are now. Back then seeing an ultimate weapon was neat but now whenever you see someone with an ultimate weapon you wonder if they payed for it. Doesn't help Yoshi P put his B team in charge of everything after 6.0 taking people to go work on XVI.
t. cleared blind on content with no add-ons
That is the best part.
So what rpg is dropping soon that the shills are trying to peel players off FF for with all these threads?
Theres a new Amazon rpg coming out Amazonshills hate ffxiv for succeeding where they constantly fail.
Blue Protocol.
soon? some other asiaticshit amazon is pozzing up and ashes of creation which uh. Good luck with that one
considering they aren't saying any alternative games and just spamming the same shit barry/foxxo spams all the time, its probably one of them seething about flopspoken still or asshurt that microsoft is going to eat blizzard and wear its skin
>asshurt that microsoft is going to eat blizzard and wear its skin
what sensible person would be asshurt about that? its literally the best thing that could happen
>blizzdrones/foxxo/barry
>sensible
pick only one
none of the delusional goblins that helicopter around MMO threads 24/7 can be described as rational
>asshurt that microsoft is going to eat blizzard and wear its skin
Black person, there's nothing left of blizzard to eat, what are you talking about
what's left is a soya-base substitute
No see its a multi-step process. First the Amazon shills hate on Final Fantasy and complain about how there are no good mmos for a couple of weeks. Then they bust out the full court press shilling their new game.
FF14 is garbage regardless man.
XIV players really start melting hard if you say it's not an RPG huh?
never answer a question with another question Ganker it's poor form and bad debate/argument
homie, just play other games. The game isn’t going anywhere.
>muh house
Your fault for getting a chainball.
FFXIV is bigger than Fortnite. There. I said it.
>cyberpunk themed season with an emphasis on bikes
>picks attack on titan for the anime collab instead of the obvious choice
come on
>Fortnite.
kek
got fricked 2 times in a row
would kill for a Fortnite x FFXIV crossover event
>Juan Fantasia skin, unlockable variants to switch him between his poster jobs (with matching pickaxe skins)
>fat chocobo glider that plays the chocobo racing theme OR cid's airship
>flame dance, manderville mambo or /nod emotes
>maybe some other skins like Y'shtola, Gaius, Estinien
Official list of XIV boogeymen
>Barry
>Foxxo
>Aveyonddreams
>Rulakir
>Ava Ashley
Any I should add?
me
Ok
barry is literally half the traffic of this board and has been for a decade. there are too many screencaps of his meltdowns to post. he's doxed himself on twitter and says all the same shit there that he does here. if you're trying to deny his existence i'm going to have to advise you to return to whatever shithole you crawled out of because you've never been here if you don't know who he is.
meds
The actual Barry and the autistic thoughtform XIVgays think he is are two separate beings at this point.
foxxo is the one on that list that likes to spout out names and screech about boogeymen, he also likes to pretend to be bazztek (his tell is he doesn't fervently defend FFXV if it's brought up)
yeah, but he'll VERY rarely show up in XIV threads. Don't get me wrong, he hates XIV and will constantly shit-talk it. He'll even say xivtroons and yoshit piss, but he does it while having meltdowns on XVI/Forspoken threads.
The schizo making XIV threads on Ganker is a completely different beast. It's probably this guy
>antiFF14 server
>dm for antiFF14 memes
Holy schizo, I want bazztek back
Oh he's still out there.
https://twitter.com/psxbnin/with_replies
holy shit he must have been fuming after recent news on the luminous team
>luminous
Imagine thinking those guys are touching anything but NFT mobile shit.
>The schizo making XIV threads on Ganker is a completely different beast. It's probably this guy
It's Pablo, and he's been at it since Shadowbringers. He doesn't even hate the game he just likes to shitpost. /wowg/ tourist newbies have no idea who Pablo is though.
boogeymen have to be non-existant
2 of them got outed.
I never heard about the other 3
Also what the frick is that talk about XIV being an RPG when it's a fricking JRPG.
It's about the world and characters, rest is literally pick a class, do whatever thing you want to do while being forced to play the story
>think about EO
>get depressed about starting from floor 1 again
I don't want to give up, but holy frick I just wanna cry when I die and know I have to start again.
Played the trail ARR is all fetch quests and it's boring.
The story isn't that interesting.
I didn't talk to anyone or interact because frick those weirdos.
I might give it another go since it is free.
itemization SUCKS
environments SUCKS
netcodes SUCKS
animations are okay but mostly SUCKS
character creation SUCKS
limited weapons per class SUCKS
class homogenization SUCKS
questing SUCKS
this does NOT mean the OTHER MMO is better. but in FFXIV is just SUCKS
>tfw dungeons and dragons isn't a role playing game because every paladin gets the same spells
you need to get help.
Black person theres multi year long paper trails people with more autism than either of us have followed of barry's autistic tantrums
you made yourself mentally ill by obsessing over some sperg on Ganker and now you see him everywhere.
this is how you live your life.
There's exactly 1 person in the world who would be mad about this post.
>killed a top CEO and single handedly revived racism
how did she do it?
WITH HER MIND
>there is no role playing involved, so it’s not an RPG
unironically the spergiest posters in any video game discussion, they’re always either arguing in bad faith or have terminal case of boomer brain. Fallout 2 is not coming back because nobody actually wants the role playing part besides you and three other old game good posters on Ganker. Japanese RPGs and MMOs never had role playing at all, and most Western RPGs have almost entirely dropped it 20+ years ago. Take the L already and go replay Pillars of Eternity or whatever.
>Revenant's Toll was gradually built up from next to nothing over patches but never got to see that
>started playing in 3.4 so never really got to witness Idyllshire get more busy and bustling either
I was there for all of the ride in SB but I don't even remember if anything changed in Rhalgr's Reach over time, which leads me to believe nothing did. Is that right, or is my brain a leaking ship?
Eulmore also got no real changes but at least I thought it was extremely funny from a story standpoint how the MSQ introduces it to you as a bastion of depraved aristocrats and then reuses it as the endgame hub so you have all these max level players running around at all times in their glam gear to reinforce the point for story players.
>Rhalgr's Reach over time
I think it just got busier, more merchants and shops etc.
Also ShB had Firmament restoration which was a cool spectacle you could participate in.
Hopefully Garlemald is next
>Hopefully Garlemald is next
almost definitely going to happen since Alphinaud mentioned it, but who knows when.
We can hope it's gonna happen in the next expac
SB had the Doman renovation
Frick actually forgot about that one.
But Doman renovation is influenced by the player so only you can see the changes anyway
that was such a waste of effort from everybody involved.
>unlock kitchen
>npcs dont even sell you some shitter food to pretend like you made the slightest difference
Wasn't really an effort was it.
You just had to sell them shit you didn't use and they unlocked cosmetics for you
I mean from the devs mostly. Makes me wonder if they didnt plan to do more with it but scrapped it.
what did it even unlock? i only remember that merchant robe that you can buy at the end, and the title
Better NPC sale rates I guess, but of course only up to 40k a day because we can't have players have any sort of permanent advantage for doing anything in the game
>wanting to live in fricking zimbabwe
It has a few exclusive furniture items
>Build up Doma
>Proceed to use it as a place to dump my trash
Exactly as they deserve.
the reach was a shitpit with poo in loo tier tents so while it did get more populated and stopped looking so depraved, it still looks like a bunch of tents
Wait a minute why the frick isn't MNK just permanent perfect balance?
>no combos/monkey stances, just priority of always available GCDs
>combinations of 4 or 5 of them get you a wide array of blitzes to perform
>make the combinations similar enough to be able to change on the fly depending on situation
probably because the best rotation would be something like >DoT, Buff, DK BT DK BT
until you need to refresh timers which removes about 2 buttons and makes it a lot more spammy, like a ranged DPS that needs to stay close. Having the core 6 buttons be rigid means a lot of little decisions to make like not going for twin snakes if you know you're going into an invuln phase and being punished more harshly for messing up your buff upkeep.
Its not a bad idea though but I feel it would be better home in like, bard or something
Yeah you could probably scrap the buffs/DoTs from the base GCDs in that case and leave them to the blitzes instead
They were trying to go for the FF6 MNK but it doesn't feel fully baked I guess
Any music anons in this thread?
I've been curious about P8S Phase 2 theme.
Is it Shootie HG on the vocals?
It really fits his style, reminds me of DMC3 and Limit Break from FFXIII-2
It's Koji
I thought Koji was too busy to do shit
It's just singing, and I don't think he sang any other songs this expansion.
Koji is the singer for basically every song with lyrics that are heavily distorted (soken also sings sometimes but his lyrics are noticeably engrishy)
Really hope the third wing of Pandemonium delivers because holy frick I do not care about the story right now at all.
>Lahabrea was actually a somewhat cool dude back in the day, very pragmatic and by the books but a respected researcher
>wife was fricking crazy and was secretly researching how to make men into gods or something to that effect, simply peering into her thoughts was enough to plant a seed of corrupting curiosity in Lahabrea himself which convinced him to fricking axe himself in two to excise the naughty thoughts
>Lahabrea's son had both daddy and mommy issues but who cares
There's potential for something cool here to tie into how Lahabrea turned out in the present age but so far the third part also sounds it could just be a rote "an ancient evil is trying to awaken, go stop it" story with Pandaemonium appearing in present-day Aetherial Sea.
keep seethin wow gaygmjkmtot
can we at least agree that the relic this time is boring as frick?
3000 tomes
thats it
I miss eureka
I miss Bozja, Eureka sucked
>try to go back and do eureka so I can get channeler's horn dyed
>only 6 people in the zone
>ok maybe it's easily doable by myself
>1 enemy dead
>2
>3
>4....
>nvm I'm out
Frick this self contained abandoned bubble garbage there's so many items I can't get anymore because this content is dead.
Best content is dead? How is that possible? Did those Eureka gays lie?
its pretty shit that you cant even go back with a friend if you have a level difference the lower level person wont even get any exp
>SOUL
>SOULLESS
Honestly I like the fact that the original world got twisted up by the dalamud calamity. Stuff like the old Mor Dhona camp being a big crystal mess, Coerthas having been turned into a freezing wasteland.
Stuffing Zero with buuz until those straps snap
NO nOo that's not true, SB story was boring and not ePic like shb and ew, I need world endings events like in marvel movies!
>dude get your ass kicked by zenos over and over and over until you somehow magically kick his ass
>ALA MHIGO IS FREEEEEEEE
No.
>people always say sb was the peak expansion for “content”
>it just had the same old raids, trials, dungeons
>only unique content was eureka which everyone seems to hate
cute kot
how does alphinaud always know the worst thing to say in emotional scenes? is it autism? "It sure was nice to say goodbye to minfilia" he says to the two scions who didn't get to.
sick of this little bastard now, he serves no function in the plot other to direct every conversation and make everything about himself. you could cut him from the team and nothing would change except I'd be having a lot more fun.
The voice acting in the WoD & Urianger scenes is so good, I'm bummed they're gone.
He's still far more tolerable than Alisaie, and that really says a lot.
Apart from the cringey sword summoning bit in the set piece fight against the WoD I like her so far. I know this is a world where toddlers are seen as legit fighters but I'm not buying that she's some sort of badass bruiser to contrast with her dipshit nerd brother.
Yda's the only spunky melee goddess I need in my life.
he gave up faster than expected today
hope he finds new images to post soon
dunking on this game's corpse will never not be funny
>FF14 is dead
>literally best it's ever been, sets player records, full servers, currently the most popular game in it's genre
poor OP
u sure?
>steam numbers
this is just embarrassing
This is not the first time steam numbers have been used as a metric and it will not be the last.
ah yes, the mystical and elusive "launcher players"
xivsisters???
OWARI DA
Can you play through quicklauncher with steam?
Yes you can
>literally best it's ever been
someone never played HW
>haven't played in 3-4 years
>check the pvp gear stores in hopes for cool looking sets
>they haven't added anything new since then
wtf
They're adding the old Feast sets and mounts next patch, trust the plan. Yoshi-p and Anon said they would LMAO.
if they dab on the wintraders, I will resub
youre asking yoshitpiss to take actual action to fix his shit game. wont happen. ranked is still cheater fiesta and everything else is gated by discord troons
I know, meant adding the old feast rewards because it would make the discord troons seethe
youre asking too much from a game that still hasnt fixed hats working properly on 2 of its races, and this has been an issue for years
Can someone post Dragonflight's Steam numbers for comparison?
Damn, didn't take long
>game is best it has ever been!1!!
these numbers are sad compared to shadownibbas
ever since GW2 got rid of most bots they all moved to ff14
easily half the population are bots now
so fricking many automated homies doing obvious runs of potd and dungeon spam for money
doesnt help anyone can play the trial forever
ff14 dead for a while because yoshitpiss works on ff16, go play something else. please
Bros what happened to pvp