It's over
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>FFXIV is losing players
It's over
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These 4 month waits between patches are brutal even for permasubs like me, but then you have a bunch of people dropping the game which makes it even worse.
Eh the game dragged on a bit, and the expansions kind of feel the same in structure. I'm still busy with endwalker, but when the story ends, I'm out.
I first played it on ps3 at launch to pick it up a few years ago on pc.
A game I liked at 24 is not a game I like at 34, even more if the focus is the story.
I cant take that shit as serious as I did back then
FORAY CHADS WERE RIGHT
FFXIV NEEDS FORAYS AND IT WILL DIE WITHOUT US
come home, white man
IS THAT A COLUMN AOE I CAN ONLY PREDICT IF I LOOK AT THE BOSS??? AIEEEE YOSHI SAVE ME, ACTIVATE THE DOA SOLO CONTENT
It's nearly a year until 7.0, and the next patch is like... October? I've given up chasing multiple jobs (because I just don't give a shit -- content being BRD) so as a casual player I tap out fast.
I was kind of thinking how when WoW was at its peak, even a casual had some neat carrots to chase. With XIV, you clear the raid tier, blind and on the first attempt, on the day if comes out. The only challenge is in Savage. So, it's log on, clear tier for tokens until you're in a full set, and then you just log in for a daily Expert to cap currency for the week to get slightly better gear you don't really need anyway. That's it.
If I didn't have a good social guild, I'd probably just unsubscribe until.7.0, because the epilogue sucks and Zero is awful.
I think it'll keep going down without a huge course correction, the game just isn't built to keep veterans invested. Patches are maybe 2 hours of content tops and then it's just raidlogging.
wtf a game loses players after a bad patch followed by a content drought?!?!?!
That's just what always happens with XIV.
You have one big storm of new players when the new expansion launches.
After some heavy dropoff you get a small peak again halfway into the patch cycle where many catch up with the story content.
After that numbers drop hard again until the new expansion gets announced. After that numbers kinda stay low only grow and grow while the expansion release moves closer and closer.
And then the new expansion reaches a new all time high at release only for the cycle to repeat.
Pretty much this, only newbies and doomposters don’t know this.
SE's market analysts are so shit even random posters from Ganker can do their job better
>Released an expansion that beautifully tied up 10 years of story
>Had an amazing, yet bittersweet ending
>The goddess who followed you since day once, the first person you hear, is dead
>The big bad guy from day one, the looming menace, is dead
>The Evil Empire is defeated
>The Evil Prince redeemed and died
>Nothing else to do but drop the curtains on an amazing, universe saving story
>PSYCH! Here's more conflict about litteral nobodies you dont care about and that is not as well put as the ones you just solved
For me FF14 ended with the Scions plitting up. Thank God I didnt play the following patches with Zenos's shadow or whatnot. Sometimes the best thing a writer can do to his story is to end it.
Entering the 13th, the Troya dungeon and end boss + the theme were kino tho.
I like the Thirteenth's world and I love FFIV, but to be completely honest I don't give a shit about Zero (anymore) or Azdaja (never did). This patch was just a drag to go through until we finally started making the path to Golbez, and what's got me more excited is possibly going to other shards if Y'shtola's research and trip to the First proves fruitful. I assume she's probably going to die by 6.55, but if she doesn't and I see that fricking hat tip ONE MORE TIME..
not in the slightest.
It's an MMO, the story isn't going to end until the game goes offline.
That case they shoulndt have wrapped everything up so nicely with ENDwalker, then
think of everything past EW as FFXIV-2
i quite literally, honestly, fully, do no fricking care. but i hope everything after it is fun at least
inb4
>MMO
>fun
Why not just reboot it as FF17 or 18? That would get a huge load of new players since I doubt I'm the only person that would like an MMO, but absolutely hates being such a latecomer.
Yeah, cheesy as it might be this was a perfect final conflict for me.
This shit is so fricking good
they really gave him a great final soliloquy, I'll be so disappointed if they can't just leave the fricker dead this time. They even did a nice job of making a very "anime"-esque speech sound normal in english.
I love that fricker like you wouldn't believe. I refuse to accept that someone would dislike his character in EW as anything more than "he was a bad guy, so I hate him". That kneegro was a combat autist who thought of you as his only friend because you were strong. And he was willing to extend the olive branch so you'd be willing to be his friend in return. How can someone not enjoy a spot of self-reflection leading to world-saving consequences?
Only npcs hate zenos.
The xiv devs state they play and study WoW for applicable practices. How can they see the cratering after Arthas died and assume that was a strategy to copy?
>How can they see the cratering after Arthas died and assume that was a strategy to copy?
subs climbed again during mop and the start of warlords
NEVER came close to peak again, and the climb was a "released new content" climb. Nothing else.
The game never recovered after its story "ended"
Subs climb a little every time a new expac is released even now and then they fall off a cliff immediately afterwards.
Because they unironically think they're better kek. If ff16 didn't give them a hint, they're in for a rude awakening,
They are. Unironically they lasted way longer without going full Cata then WoW did.
WoW didn't crater because of frickin Arthas dying, you smoothbrain.
It cratered because multiple aspects of the game took a nosedive in the subsequent expansions afterwards.
If you think that's due to a fricking npc raid boss dying and not because Blizzard was beginning to feel the effects of the long dick of Activision wedging itself firmly in their butthole, you're as ignorant as you are pedantic.
>muh activision sabotage
90% of players had their sunk cost fallacy addiction broke by the "story" of WoW ending. As evident by Classic WoW gameplay was never good. Cata made several QoL improvements to that formula despite the b***hing for every category of player. It was the lack of actual goal, content droughts and increasingly shitty design that hurt WoW. Blizzard did that to themselves.
The game just got worse, and worse. Group finder and having to change all dungeons to a AOE gangbang that you tried to blast in as little amount of time as possible made it really obvious it was just a time sink and a chore. Then they made raidfinder so that was gangbang too that I had no real understanding or care about what was happening. Finally mists of pandera added yet another furgay race and it became clear the game wasn't being made for me anymore.
I still dont get the point of LFR, why not just make it possible to queue for normal instead that way you have one less difficulty to balance.
Because the "leadership" today are raidtards hired in by original raidtards. Removing their ego gatekeeping would be mentally catastrophic.
Making Normal raids give pretty much the same rewards for relative time spent as Savage and EX is the one thing XIV does right.
Ultimates being the true gatekeep from tryhards is absolutely the right call. So were Challenge Dungeons in WoW until those became M+ and forced people to tryhard even when they did not want to for gear.
Thank frick XIV said "Frick that"
>change all dungeons to a AOE gangbang that you tried to blast in as little amount of time as possible made it really obvious it was just a time sink and a chore
Which is also what Duty Roulette is. Yet another "Why the frick would they copy this?" strat
>90% of players had their sunk cost fallacy addiction broke by the "story" of WoW ending.
Nice 'stats'. How about you back them up with some proof
Or are you just appealing to an imaginary majority you made up and based on anecdotal personal experience?
Notice how no one replied to your opinion asking for facts to prove it wrong
>we
And we classic chads run mythic rag
For me, FFXIV ended with liberating Ala Mhigo.
>that beautifully tied up 10 years of story
Only shadowbabs think EW had good writing, not reading the rest of your post because I know it's a lot of bullshit
Some parts were well written. How well *plotted* is another matter.
>Released an expansion that beautifully tied up 10 years of story
>>Had an amazing, yet bittersweet ending
Honestly, the ending was sweet ontop of sweet. None of our friends died, expect Zenos if you wanna count him as a friend. Everyone is ok, enemies crushed, former enemies are holding hands with us, we're dressing up Alphinaud's mom in bawd gear while her husband is away. All is well. But yeah, this absolute nothing in between patches has been hell, I kinda miss having a Eureka, or a Bozja, or atleast something to do when we we're not waiting, kinda stuck finishing crafting relics and trying to get that fishing a Mahjong title.
B-but the homosexual catboy ate a TACO!
an expansion that beautifully tied up 10 years of story
13.... And the story was shit, there's still some fricking loose ends
>Released an expansion that beautifully tied up 10 years of story
>Had an amazing, yet bittersweet ending
Jesus Christ, it was SHIT
One line in this post has trancers absolutely losing their shit.
When people say that Zeevies are cultists, boy are they fricking on point.
You'd think this homosexual was describing Shakespeare with the way he talks about some shitty MMO.
Yeah okay wowcuck how are those fricking paperback shit books about gay wizards in the forest by garbage authors doing for you?
Oh no orcs bad, jk jk they good now. Such amazing writing.
Thats the problem with making the story too good to an end. Your villains cant be beaten that easily and have a great ending because everyone wants to walk away. and you killed off you best story line forever.
>next expac is in 2024
>people don't want to play scuffed Fall Guys while waiting
how are you surprised?
anon we're still waiting for 6.5, not the new expac
you don't even play the game dumbass
>6.5
>one alliance raid and another shitty criterion
whoa
much content
Yeah. Like every other x.5 patch.
You fool, the most important content comes in 6.5.
ENDWALKER LEGENDARY BIG FISH
Finally, real content.
>No content because "pls understandu ff16"
>Wow refugee are back playing Goyimflight
>Hype is dead because MMO players are coping the next MMO will be the good one
Damn that's fricking weird
FFXIV sucks lol
That's a man with a penis
AND?
Ugly bastard
ugly ass homie
my wife
I'll resub for the final patch, play for a month then wait for the next expansion. Why the frick should I do otherwise?
>Why the frick should I do otherwise?
You will click sparkles on your island sanctuary.
You will /lean on the wall in limsa.
Barry thread
Like how no one actually read the financial report, their overall revenue is up but profit margins are down for the year.
No shit, they dumped hundreds of millions into the FF16 advertising campaign + 2 Fan Fests.
Next year they will release FF16 on PC and Xbox with DLC and the New FF14 Expansion and both revenue and profits will magically increase.
I don't see a significant increase in sales happening from PC. You can catch suckers buying it if it has a simultaneous release, but word of mouth has hit and the game is a confusing mess. It's a DMC clone with chocobos and crystals. That's not even the same market of players/consumers/customers.
Then they will double down by going on EGS 6 months before Steam so the game won't really come out until 18 months down the line on any actual PC platforms.
Yep, the word of mouth is going to frick them. They somehow managed to make a game that has a worse reputation than XV. I really want to know what kind of hell went on behind the scenes because this should have been an easy win.
This world of mouth is going to bankrupt these fricks, especially now that people are finally admitting that ffxv was pretty good
I hope this is real and the troons itt are hardcoping, with the current fanbase it sure could use heavy bleeding out.
Also
>that picture
>after than end of the first giant story line (unless that was Shadownoggers I did not keep up with EndBlack person at all)
makes it look like XIV is just doing FFXI Adoulin but Mexico (and that's a good thing), outside of reusing the same fricking gayscians still holy frick
No it's not over but if it means the WoWfugees that came over in Shadowbringers go back to being parasitical entities in another MMORPG I'm all for it. Infact ban mods while they're at it and have GMs ban anyone that publically advertizes clubs, ERP or anything remotely related to those things in any public setting. Clear them all out.
>wow mention of nowhere
rent free
>Seething Shadowfugee
Seethe, rapefugee.
Why do you guys feel the need to rush and defend your MMO every time someone criticizes it? Is it mental illness? Are you scared if the “narrative” for your game shifts negatively on Ganker the game will die and you’ll lose all your “progress?” Do you tie your self worth to how good or bad “your” MMO does?
Why do you feel the need to tell everyone you don't like a game? This place is obsessed with letting everyone know they like a certain MMO or MMOs.
trannies on the internet have NPD and think if they do something everyone else does the same thing
I do not know how you can have NPD while hiding behind a anime avatar / pfp
>trannies who play this game says their is millions of people playing it
>but their is a MSQ that filters everyone
explain this to me
Cope moron FFXIV keeps on winning and getting rid of undesirables like YOU is always a peak win
trannies and femboys on suicide watch
PissStation keep losing
>it's over
it never began. FFXIV was only successful compared to post-WotLK WoW. It never achieved the same greatness.
>It never began
But in my heart it felt so real
WotLK-early Cata had more players than the top 5 of current mmorpgs together.
The whole genre is dead.
Peak WoW is like stumbling into an ancient civilization's ruins that are far more advanced than anything your society possesses. The genre will probably never come close to how enormous it was in the late 2000s again. An entire generation of people only knew gaming through WoW and quit gaming when they quit WoW.
WotLK has still the best raid/mmorpg soundtrack ever. Ulduar is a masterpiece. No matter if the raid itself or the soundtrack.
Maybe these fricking morons should make a MMO instead of a visual novel with a cringe weebshit story
>dont make any good content for the duration of the whole addon
>for content that you've actually made which isnt really good, don't make any cool rewards, instead give them mediocre at best shit, while putting the best rewards into the cash shop
>cash shop
>during content drought
I've dropped WoW because of this, now FFXIV is doing the same
there is really no escape mmoanons
There REALLY is no escape. Once again I firmly believe it's up to Riot games to save the genre or we return to WoW which looks to be doing much better than in Shadowlands.
>Destiny 2 is plummeting
>ESO is very expensive and requires the sub if you want to actually do end-game shit
>there's runescape I guess lmfao
>Most of new releases have very few or no RPG systems that actually have you play with others
It sucks but if Ashes or the Riot MMO don't make it I'm never returning to the genre.
I'm playing Lost Ark right now with zero expectations to stay because I absolutely know the end-game will be cancer as frick. I am very impressed by the dungeons; they are much better than the entirety of FFXIV only based on having actual mechanics before even getting to a boss. Or who knows maybe I end up addicted, though I don't think so.
Don't you fricking Black folk get tired of these threads?
I don't care about XIV's playercount
I don't care about XVI's sales
Talk about the fricking video game instead of jerking off over clickbait articles for your homosexual crusade against a game you don't even play
speaking of MMOs
how badly will riot games frick up their MMO?
i heard the combat is like lost arc
>i heard the combat is like lost arc
source or gfto. they have their lips pucked up so tight about the project it might as well not exist
i think they showed early alpha footage
it looks like diablo or lost arc
i forgot what kind of style that is called
That is their ARPG called project F.
>i heard the combat is like lost arc
If it is that wouldn't be so bad. Just as long as there's actual gameplay and not 100000000000 hours of grindy Korean bullshit,
its a western dev controlled by tencent
so i do not think they would make it P2W
>like Lost Ark
dropped
>s-so you want tab-target shit
no, tab target is shit too
I want actual action combat
Ah like Eso then.
haha
no
>ex-Blizzard devs
It's fricking over, they actually managed to kill all interest in LoL. It's completely dead in the US.
The amount of random info thrown out there without evidence is something else, no one knows how the game will play. I do think the game will be decent though because even if people dislike Riot they at least know how to manage games.
>blizzard devs
>riot gm's
>lol playerbase
It's over before it even began.
Lost Ark was great and had arguably better raids than XIV.
However they've only made PvP games and PvP MMOs suck dick so I have zero hopes.
>Lost Ark was great
Look man, I know psychosis is rampant in XIV threads but you don't have to go this far for a shitpost.
The combat? I can't say a bad thing. Skill choices felt meaningful and you could customize your character in really good ways. Bosses and mechanics were really unique and XIV could learn a thing or two. Balance could've been better but that's a problem with every MMO, and Hell Mode did a good job of encouraging meme builds even.
Obviously the fricking honing and the daily grinds were dogshit, but we're talking combat here.
I dunno man the combat was still pretty shallow for more than half the builds.
I'd still rather just play Path of Exile which can be as 1 button hero or complex as you like.
Works on my machine, pablo.
All the players that came with Asmongold are gone.
I would say not even 1/10th of the new players from Asmongold stayed.
From what now?
Are you playing coy?
AsmonGold the youtuber got his entire fanbase to play FFXIV after WoW was death spiraling. This was around summer 2021 and lasted until the first phase of the recent expansion ending in Winter 2022. Most of those people that started the game with AsmonGold stopped playing.
The last I played was during the farmville island update and there was almost no groups doing bosses then. I doubt that it has positively changed since then.
>and there was almost no groups doing bosses then
what the frick is he even talking about
>FF only gained subs because WoW sisters were exhausted from back-to-back system expansions
>DF removed said systems and everyone went back home
hate to see it. at the end of the day, regardless of everyone's opinion of current wow, it's the only mmo that keeps addicts hooked. all the streamers that abandoned SL are now back playing either retail or wrath, and even the D4 crowd quit diablo to return back to playing warcraft.
I really don't get why it's so hard to make a game that can compete with wow.
>and even the D4 crowd quit diablo to return back to playing warcraft.
lmao no they aren't they're waiting for PoE
poe and diablo players are not the same.
Oh right I forgot 90% of PoE players are poorgays who can't afford games, you're right apologies.
>DF removed said systems and everyone went back home
Lmao, retail is emptier than ever. The WoW killer was Classic all along.
>Lmao, retail is emptier than ever.
>servers crashing and unavailable for hours during time rift update
>community devs asking players to be patient while they work on limiting the number of people in each zone
both versions of wow are doing numbers, and it's only going to increase when 10.2 drops in a few weeks.
>both versions of wow are doing numbers
Is this why troonyflight was discounted barely a month after release and was on sale multiple times already AND Blizzard was giving free game time begging people to come back?
I assume he meant recently and not almost a year ago anon. On another note, why does FFXIV never do anything interesting system-wise in expansions? They just add more of the same content and dumb down the game even more. Meanwhile DF revamped their talent trees and added dragon riding.
They did. It's called Heavensward. Then they started backtracking after Stormblood. Been downhill ever since in almost every respect.
>FF16 seethe thread gets archived
>FF14 seethe thread immediately appears
Barry works overtime today, huh?
Oh no. people are playing other things, because of the decline in content releases and I still only need to wait less than 5 minutes for Roulettes, which is still better than it was up into Shadowbringers. How terrible.
>Yoshida encourages people to unsub and play other games if they've reached the end of content
>Game occasionally goes through bouts of not making as much money as usual
Wow that's crazy.
>content drought since 6.1
>no exploratory content with an attached grind to keep players occupied
>variant dungeons are fricking hallways and with no rewards to justify doing them.
>pander exclusively to raidtroons who make up 5% of the playerbase with 2 ultimates while ignoring 50% of midcore players that don’t do ultimate
MMOs are horrendously dogshit because they always revert to pandering either to extreme casuals or extreme poopsockers. Everyone else is shit out of luck content wise. Foray content used to alleviate that to a degree, but they cut it out entirely for EW.
Pandering to extreme casuals never happens, otherwise I'd probably play MMOs. Every MMO is designed for hyper endgame minmaxers, and maybe they'll put in a cash shop so "casuals" can buy power before joining a 60-man raid group for 0.1% chance of getting some pants that their class uses.
>Pandering to extreme casuals never happens
You're deluded dude. FFXIV is purely extreme casualization. I don't think you've ever played an MMO before it if you somehow don't realize that. Tomestones are there to keep poopsockers from outpacing casuals in gear progression. You can get from level 1 to 90 in a week. There's no exploration. There are no penalties for death, or penalties for anything really. There's zero expectation that you have to form up a group with people to accomplish anything but savage. In old MMOs you'd get shitstomped wandering outside and poking a rabbit 5 levels beneath you and lose half your level.
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Graphics update looking good
no it doesn't. It the same low effort shit like always.
B-But, it's going to be on par with ff16!!!
This has to be a fake.
Nope. It's real, was shown during Fanfest.
Some furry got COVID and made a 10 page comic about spreading it, pissing off the XIV players who caught it and then continued to go afterwards.
sad but true
Literally who said that? They're just raising the bottom line for toastergays.
>Literally who said that?
You'd be surprised by the idiots that think this graphics update is a full engine change with graphics on par with FF16.
lel the way the camera pans and the characters blank expressions makes me think of the 3d saul goodman meme
lalafell won
The next MMO that comes out better have a goddamn e-girl race. Fortunately, it looks like MMO devs have wised up enough that those are standard these days.
Well yeah they told me Endwalker finished the story so I stopped playing.
I don't play MMOs, but it's always funny to see FF14 trying to hype up their game as being as culturally relevant as WoW. It never even came close to 10% of WoW's popularity. Normies have never even heard of FF14. My mom, who can't even turn on a computer, knows what WoW is.
>I don't play MMOs
>but let me give my two cents on this long running MMO drama
This is the most nu-Ganker post I've ever seen
i was about to replyy the same thing
the reddit frog is just the cherry on top
Cope. Nobody knows or cares about FF14. The height of FF14 subscriber wise reached 10% of WoW's peak subscriptions?
>waaahhh you can't point out when I'm being a homosexual
For not caring about the game, you seem awfully invested in giving your opinion about it. inb4 i just came in this thread and made several replies because my schizophrenia compelled me
I just wanted to tell yous what the reality of the situation is. Whatever you do with the information is up to you. I'm just snapping you out of your potential delusions. homosexuals.
And I will keep frogposting.
Your reality is divergent. Just because your roommate hasn't heard of it doesn't mean it's unpopular, schizo.
Are you nobody?
>I don’t care but let me endlessly reply
Nu-/v/
you troons sure showed him!
Don't worry sissie, I'm sure World of Trooncraft will be back in 11.0, just believe.
Now back to doing dailies for your gay minotaurs
This is obviously true, but WoW (and blizzards) reputation is extremely negative. Blizzard has the reputation now of ~2015 Bioware. Most people don't know what FFXIV is, and the one's who usually know it because they have a friend is absolutely obsessed with it.
I cant justify giving them 14 dollars a month. I dont understand why MMO companies are so fricking greedy about subscription fees. Id rather save the money and buy a game that doesnt make me keep paying to play.
>monthly sub + tip for a supposed game that is just an endless grind and second job
mmos need to be remade from the ground up
>game that is just an endless grind and second job
WoWgays still to this day cry about XIV because the grind has an end and they can't play it like it's a second job
the whole fun of wow for me in the past when i would play it was the levelling, i loved running around the world and discovering it, doing all the quests i could find and getting into skills; the atmosphere was great, i'd always level a character and then around 70 i'd create a new one
>one time i hit max level
the game became utterly boring once i noticed i was levelling up incredibly fast and missing content, then the new islands ended up being void of all soul, a few small biomes grouped together with nothing memorable about them at all, nothing to explore or take in; i had zero interest in raiding and doing dungeons and i think hitting max level just killed all interest i had in the game after that, i have no idea how people can do them over and over and find that fun enough to not only continue, but pay for monthly
nostalgia is a hell of a drug
but like all drugs you will never get as high as your first time
One of the common complains about Endwalker was that there was no fun grinds
Homogenize jobs more, this will surely help. On top getting rid of cool looking skills of course.
Barry won
>He doesn't know about the sub/unsub cycle
You can gloat if it's still down after 7.0
TRUE!!!!!
wow he's mad as frick.
He's right, you know.
Doesn't CBU3 make the Dragon Quest Builders games too?
Who knows what they're working on.
lmao
Yeah *I* was mad as frick as a 10 year XI player. So mad I didn't forgive them until Shadowbringers, when I started playing.
This is the kind of shit they pull. It's scummy as frick.
>release the most underwhelming dry expac content in the games history because you're busy funnelling it's funds in to moron trash money sinkholes like Avengers, Balan Wonderland, Forspoken, FF16, etc
>be surprised when people stop playing because there's literally nothing new to do
Wow!!!
yeah the 4 month patch cycle isn't doing anyone any favors, there's so little content per patch. And it doesn't help that EW content has been extremely lackluster. you can really tell they pulled the A team to work on FF16.
>you can really tell they pulled the A team to work on FF16.
What A team? 16 has the exact same pitfalls as 14.
I'm sure it does. I haven't played it though, not buying a PS5 for one game. But I imagine it has the same empty zones and the same fetch quests, everyone has mentioned those. But you can see a dip in quality in post expac launch content in endwalker.
its old and boring now, and it looks antiquated, this is the fate of all mmorpgs
Is this the stealth XIV thread?
>thread full of mentally ill psychos
yep
This is pretty typical during the end of an expansion's lifestyle.
Anyone who has been around for at least one expansion knows the content is split between patches X.5 and X.55 which will be the true conclusion to the story with weekly restrictions lifted. It isn't surprising to see players unsub during the drought and then return when X.55 drops to finish the MSQ and snag gear before the new expansion comes out.
Then there will be a huge spike in returning and new players when the expansion drops that will either create 4+ hour long queues or break the game. Then interest will dwindle again after getting through all the returning players finish the new MSQ stuff.
The game was alive as frick for at least 6 months before EW launch, in Shadowbringers you never had a content drought.
>in Shadowbringers you never had a content drought
what
>The game was alive as frick for at least 6 months before EW launch
wasn't that because of Asmongold?
Because of the apparent flood of Wowfugees due to the perfect storm of lawsuit + worst patch they ever had.
Honestly the flood was overstated and a lot of them haven't even stuck around. I keep in touch with some guys that started in 2021 and they were very adamant that XIV was going to magically be their WoW 2. It isn't, so now they bounce around between here and back to WoW and sometimes other MMOs briefly. I see them as junkies.
>never had a content drought
>6.3 was delayed for a fricking year
>in Shadowbringers you never had a content drought
>7 months of 5.2
>6 months of 5.5
>in Shadowbringers you never had a content drought
>Shadow "one less ultimate" bringers
>No drought
Nobody but parsetrannies give a frick about ultimates, we had Bozja to keep us busy in ShB.
>bozja is the only content in the game
like clockwork
>ultimates are the only content in the game
What did she/her mean by this?
Ultimates are an important part of the content cycle. You all are now experiencing what happened to raiders in ShB with DSR getting pushed back.
>Ultimates are an important part of the content cycle.
>No argument other than a reaction image
I accept your concession.
I'm actually surprised that heaven's legend is almost 5% of players.
not exactly
ffxivcollect only tracks people that opt-in by logging in on the site
4.8% of those who have their achievements set to public. Not too surprising, UCOB was around 3% by the end of SB, and we have more raiders now compared to then.
Demi-Ozma is at 8.8% on that site having been out for years and being easier to get now. The population in both types of content is comparable.
That figure is both inaccurate, as
stated, and it also is (purposefully) omitting a lot of other context. Thar achievement doesn't include people that attempted it but haven't cleared and Ultimates have been part of marketing the game for a while with the World First contests they endorse drawing lots of eyeballs to the game.
>and Ultimates have been part of marketing the game for a while with the World First contests they endorse drawing lots of eyeballs to the game.
So important to the marketing that they confirmed DT will only have one ultimate fight
No they didn't
Watch the fanfest keynote copers
The slide said "Ultimate" in English but the voice over said plural
Source: my ass
They did not confirm that but I also understand that my sensible argument has upset you which caused you to lie out of desperation.
No shot, did they really confirm that? Would be interested in a source
>n-n-no they made the slide wrong even though the variant dungeons are pluralized...!
Holy fricking COPE
It's plural in Japanese, moron.
It's not
>he doesn't know Japanese
Makes sense honestly, the money to stabilize square enix after the super flop that was ff16 must come from somewhere.
Oh no! They're only doing 1 Alliance Raid and 1 Raid. What's our response XIVsisters?
>What's our response XIVsisters?
We should all play the better mmorpg!
I love how this site blatantly makes shit up and whatever fanbase is #1 at any given point will parade it around
this is me, pic is unrelated and i'm trans btw
Does ffxiv even try to innovate or do anything different? It's the exact same thing as the last three expansions
It's inaccurately high. People who do Ultimates are more likely to opt into trackers, casuals don't even know about that shit. The real rate of completion is abysmally low.
>People who do Ultimates are more likely to opt into trackers, casuals don't even know about that shit.
Source: My Ass
Is that why the on-patch clear percentage on LuckyBancho is the highest it's ever been during this expansion?
>Nobody but people that actually play the game
Also Bozja had less zones than Eureka and looked like shit in comparison.
>Also Bozja had less zones than Eureka
Doesn't matter because there was more content to work on like duels and DRS
>and looked like shit
What does this have to do with CONTENT?
Only Limsa idlers think Bozja was just FATEs. You same homosexuals are pogging the frick out over "run Aetherfont 200 times".
Yes, it was 99% fate farming. 1% dungeon time.
>Trench crater hole
>Beautiful carefully crafted mystery island
One seems like more effort to make.
DRS is the only thing it has over Eureka but that's full discord mafia territory to a greater extent than BA.
Bozja was better than eureka just for the fact you could get lost actions asap and ride your mount at the start
Why do morons think this pic is some kind of "gotcha" argument ender?
Are they seriously comparing regular fates to boss fights in eureka and bozja?
My man bozja didn’t get updated until 5.4 we had like a fricking year of the southern front only
My homie doesn't remember six months of Light Rampant
>Heavensward had a content drought from 3.0-3.1 that almost killed the game again
>Shadowbringers had content drought with patches spaced out for nearly half a year
>Endwalker has had disappointing patch after patch after 6.0
It really makes you appreciate how good Stormblood was. It set the bar pretty well for how nicely spaced its patches were and how much content it provided. SO WHY THE FRICK DO WE GET LESS CONTENT 2 EXPANSIONS LATER.
Because they're pumping all the money from XIV into other games and now their cash cow is starting to decline because of it
It really puts into perspective the playerbase's priorities when they called it the worst expansion ever just because the MSQ was boring. That's how you end up with Shitwalker no content edition.
covid prease undastandu
>fordola
c**t
>mikoto
obsessed with a dude 50 years older than her
>yotsuyu
VERY used goods
>yugiri
sidelined
>krile
pedobait
>alisaie
canon wife
>y'shtola
old
>lyse
irritating
>tataru
old
>cirina
obnoxious yuribait
>sadu
humorous yuribait
>kurenai
hot but stupid
>muh naago
ey up fookin guvna HOW DID A FOOKIN MICKOTEH GET HERE IN A FOOKIN DESERT THEN?
as usual, hilda is the best wife
Yep. Always been this way, it’s fine, everyone likes it, just go play other games, etc.
moron, you burned down every other MMO to get people into your stupid visual novel. You bombarded every forum, board, subreddit, every nook and cranny of the internet just to advertise this game for free. And now you pull the rug out from under all those millions. Well? Are you happy now? SOME of those “WoWfugees” are bound to be upset. This isn’t what they were promised. You promised MORE patches than WoW, not less. You promised a game where ALL content was playable, and yet no one does any of it, not even max level content. You lied. Now stew in the mess that you made.
I honestly want every WoWrat to be piled into a mass grave.
>end of an expansion's lifestyle
homie, there still an entire year till 7.0.
>asmonturd fanatics are leaving
that's a good thing
Lol shadowbringers had a content drought because of the pandemic
If people stopped paying for the garbage they are being fed now, these multibillion dollar companies would need to make better games instead.
>scions disband
>had perfect excuse for WoL to party up with a 100% brand new cast, with cameos from the scions now and then so it's extra special
>instead drag back every scion in the next patch
Why are they so unwilling to let the scions go?
they didn't disband though.
The real answer is because of trusts. They can only cycle one or two characters over a full expansion, like Ryne being replaced by Estinien.
>had perfect excuse for WoL to party up with a 100% brand new cast, with cameos from the scions now and then so it's extra special
That was I wanted as well, they set it up at the very end of 6.0 with the members talking about fricking off to do their own thing. I would have liked to see side characters taking the forefront and being the new party and flesh them out more.
Hello
I see you people are discussing about the critically dead mmo ffxiv with a free trial that now includes stormslop because there are less than 1m players left
this game is full of trannies. it really is
every single multiplayer game on the market is full of troons because troons are terminally online loser NEETs, this one is just more social than most other MMOs so it stands out more
the only solution is to just play singleplayer games or only with friends
It unironically, Ganker shitposting aside, is. Every FC I've been in has at least a few trannies or meme genders like non-binary. Statics have overtly perverted trannoids or "eggs". If you browse FFXIV twitter, 50%+ of posters will have pronouns in their profile and/or a transflag.
>join a static member's FC in mid-ShB
>all normal guys, typical bantz, nothing strange
>by EW every single one of them has trooned out
I like how you schizos unironically write this gay ass fanfiction
There's no fiction. I'm not sure why it's so unbelievable to you. We both know it's not unbelievable at all and you're just trying to pretend it doesn't happen for some reason.
>we
Yes, we. You and I.
Dreamboum lives in a fricking bubble of yoshiP cultists its insane
I occasionally skim the resetera ff16 spoiler thread and constantly see people will shit on the story and writing, then Dreamboum will come in make a post with some sweeping grand statement in damage control against all the negativity and go ignored as more people shit on the writing, its funny because every time that happens he'll flock back to his twitter and make moronic posts like that pic as if he's "countering" any negative sentiment towards the game and like he's fishing for positive reinforcement, he's lucky he has a few thousands twitter followers (all entirely ff14 gays from his time endlessly shilling ff14), he's such an insecure gay he is the only person I've ever seen retweeting random ff16 fanart and then I look and see on resetera that Dreamboum made a fricking ff16 fanart dump thread and constantly bumps it, the gay is so desperate to prove 16 is loved or good and will never address any criticism, he already decided the game was a 10/10 before it even fricking released or was even announced because we knew CBU3 and Yoshi-P was making FF16 for years.
>writing this wall of nonsense
meds
have a nice day troony
>Come across years old FFXIV video guide
>Guy who made it has a facecam and seems completely normal
>Check channel to see if he's still making FFXIV content
>He is and is also now a troony vtuber
What is it about this game?
FFXIV seems to have the highest rate of players with autism, and autistic people are VERY malleable to things like the troony/gender bullshit.
>and autistic people are VERY malleable to things like the troony/gender bullshit
Can confirm, a slightly autistic guy I'd known for ages got really into XIV, and started spending a lot of time on discords he'd found through it since me and our usual group wouldn't join him
Fast forward to us all on another game, having a drink and talking at length for the first time in a while and he starts making gay innuendos out of nowhere and giggling to himself, progressing to outright threatening to suck dicks and saying he has a sexier ass than a woman like he was fishing for pic requests
Having actually tried XIV myself since then I know exactly the kind of troon he was hanging around, and how much they would have encouraged his descent into performative-homosexualry
its discord, any group that uses discord eventually gets trannified. It just causes a person to primarily socialize through the internet and an artificial persona; add that with heavy porn usage and you get zoomtrooned.
>It just causes a person to primarily socialize through the internet and an artificial persona; add that with heavy porn usage and you get zoomtrooned.
Truly the digital equivalent of prison gay
Everyone likes this, everyone’s fine with it. FFXIV exists so that you can play other games. Only newbies don’t know this. It’s always been this way and why we love it so much.
Just ignore the fact that refugees pressured us into leaving every other game for this one, and yet this one wound up empty.
I can't reconcile the fact that XIV asks you for so much fricking money and time out of your live and gives you unironically nothing to show for it.
>Your character doesn't grow
>You don't change the world
>The gear you obtain does nothing
>Titles do nothing
>You can't even mount in cities
>Your minions do nothing at all
>Jobs keep getting homogenized for the raidgays while affecting MSQ gameplay
>There isn't a singular reason to do any side content
How is it that you can be alright with a game like this? It's amoral to ask so much of your players and give them nothing. It's not fun to gather, it's not fun to craft, it's not fun to fight, it's not fun to quest, it's not fun to play with trusts, squadron or other people. And yet people do it for bragging rights? You can collect something and therefore you must?
>man that doesn't play a game tells others they don't have fun with it
>Yoshitpissgay doesn't have arguments
k moron, I have 1.3k days subbed so you do the math of how much time I've played. Done everything I wanted to do in XIV and I HOPED the game would grow after Stormblood but it only shrunk.
Thank you for funding future content for me to have fun completing.
No problem bro, I'm glad XIV exists and continues to get worse so subhumans stay in it. I'll just continue to be mad and talk about how trash it is so that hopefully someone that hasn't played it has a change of heart and I can avoid them the trouble of dedicating any brain power to the game 🙂
That's a lot of cope to read so I'll just see you next thread.
it's so extremely obvious their next mmo is in development
>but why would they, ff14 is a cashcow?
Because the engine is reaching its technical limits and the combat system also reached its endpoint mechanics wise
Didnt they have such a massive increase that the servers couldnt even keep up
They'll be fine after losing some
No shit, there's nothing to do except playing stonks for monopoly money you can only buy hawaiian shirts with.
People blame island sacntuary but also Eureka Orthos can go frick itself too. Shame we didn't get Bozja/Eureka-like content this time around.
Frick Bozja. All my homies hate that janky COVIDslop.
Good, ff troons deserve to lose
>no exploration zone
Is he stupid?
I don't give a shit about the chinese sweatshop island garbage. Nobody does.
They traditionally have very low participation rates, so the effort isn't worth it.
>They traditionally have very low participation rates
didn't you just explain that this is an opt-in site? Not reliable. What are those percentages as a raw number? And also, some of those numbers are pretty low.
It's a reliable sampling of the playerbase. There's obviously no way to see ALL achievement info from every player.
>And also, some of those numbers are pretty low.
The only relatively low one is finishing Baldesion Arsenal (Really Making the Most of Hydatos), and that's still well above participation rates for things like ultimates and BLU.
Sorry but 30% seems pretty low to me.
>It's a reliable sampling of the playerbase.
lol. lmao.
See
>Nobody does.
I do.
YoshitPee just can't stop taking Ls.
the troons all moved onto BG3.
And now they are getting filtered by a game that has RPG mechanics.
Always has.
The morons here don't seem to understand that most people treat XIV as a Second Life lifestyle-type game. Apart from the hardcore raiders, no one actually really gives a shit about anything else. You have the achievement loggers which is maybe 3% of the population at max but most of the long term achievements are meant to be earned over a period of years. And then you have the perma crafters who just play the game to make money. I know a catgurl on my server with maxed out retainers for gil yet he keeps crafting 24/7.
Everyone else just hangs around Limsa ERPing or whatever. To be honest, a lot of people use XIV as their social life. It doesn't really matter if the game has a low amount of content cause basically no one cares
41 sissies, how do we respond without looking like troons?
its a problem for square, its not a problem for me. Why do you personally identify with companies you don't even own stock in?
how does monk even work in endwalker?
it feels like I'm waiting 40 seconds to just keep doing what I was already doing
don't care
will still jerk off to ryne
No wonder they want to release XIV on the XBox. Luckybanchos stats were always bullshit.
why is mmorpg.com covering ffxiv?
They used to shill hard for FFXIV, guess they got bored of it over the years
>Post expansion
>People sub less because they typically wait for the next expansion, the onces that stay try to do the mid/hardcore content
>Ultimate weapons are a joke,the easiest thing to get without grinding
>There's no eureka/bozja to stay interested in and Orthos itself is boring
>Island is lame and boring
they removed the need or want to keep a subscription with 14, not to mention they openly are using the team for other projects so you know there isn't going to be the same amount of effort in it.
>just right after ESO got given away at EGS
Bros... we've been TODDED...
>kills your playerbase
I love that the yoshipgays are angry at him for spreading COVID, but not once did those same people who got symptoms, masked up, got tested and continued to go for the remainder of the days.
Furries truly know zero shame
Good, maybe they can get back to making content for the core subscribers and not the refugees of the month.
Yeah, this is normal.
What isn't normal is that because of WoW flopping that XIV has seen constant growth even despite bad patches. Maybe now that most of the refugees are at or near endgame they finally don't have a reason to stay subbed in dead content cycles.
Luckybancho was never true. Stop posting this shit site.
And it's not active subs at all.
Oh really, is that why you were using the last chart to try and claim the decline was totally real and accurate?
https://arch.b4k.co/v/thread/645247835/#645248141
Its still more accurate than "MMO-population" which showed an even greater interest in the game and a dying warcraft and they literally just make up the numbers based on reddit activity.
>you
That’s probably you showing your own post because you are terminally online and really need to go outside and touch grass
>Oh really, is that why you were using the last chart to try and claim the decline was totally real and accurate?
>you
what? I did nothing besides quoting your post in this thread.
>this random post is totally you
Take a break from the internet
>archive posting
Now this is peak schizophrenia.
My primary game is PSO2 you haven't even seen the depths of my autism.
there is a group of schizo wow players and Barry looking to destroy our lord Yoshi-P. They have spend thousand of dollars to look anything to damage him and now they are running fake stories on him. we gotta stay straong ff16 and ff14 fans. dont believe the doomer or the wow bros. we won...we fricking wooon.
I mean, they kind of did win because you piss into the ocean of shit and piss forever and let this shit live rent free in your skull
FFXIV would unironically be better if they returned to two NA DCs and sub counts dropped by 60%
>Registered service account must have been inactive for at least ninety days.
Can I play If I played during the last resub campaign in may?
Oh nice, only play final trantasy one month a year anyway
Time to see if they've re-enabled EU house demolition yet or if I'm still squatting the lot
can I run dungeons unsynced for loot?
I want this
https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/playguide/db/item/74722a71d12/
yeah
Fairly certain there's a version of that on the MB
every dungeon from ARR to SB is easily soloable unsynched.
ShB might be possible, but it would probably be slow
Slow for some.
damn kinda weird to have 3 different dudes claiming to not be one post
Obviously it would drop subs. The amount of wow refugees who got tricked into playing this shit must've realized by now how fricking terrible it is. Also this expansion was boring as frick. Islands was a huge disappointment and other than that what did we have? The worst relic acquisition since the game was created? A new fricking deep dungeon? Everyone clears the raids in the first week - first month, depending on skill and then it's 7 months of waiting till the next one.
Thinking of resubbing because I actually enjoy playing the game with other people and I have no friends irl but remembering the trannies and the fricking drama they bring everywhere makes me sick. Have things gotten better or worse? Are there more normal people now with newfriends or is the place just a cesspool of mental illness?
All of the friends I used to raid with have more or less quit.
I'm hesitant to bother playing again because I don't know how much I'll enjoy raiding knowing that nearly everyone is using some kind of addon that just plays the game for them.
That shit is why I never bothered playing WoW after vanilla, it cheapens the whole experience of raiding.
>not a new ip
?
>addon troony
Like clockwork.
That was my first post in this thread
bro? your Gankerx?
>raider
you have only yourself to blame for engaging in the most pointlessly autistic part of this game
>you have only yourself to blame for engaging in the most pointlessly autistic part of this game
They've pretty much stopped releasing midcore content. What the frick else do you expect me to do anon? Extreme dungeons for the rest of eternity?
I don't want to raid ultimates 24/7 either but there's nothing else to do.
>extreme dungeons
I hate to inform you discord trannies bit extreme dungeons don’t exist. Extreme is a difficulty setting for trials. Also you posted this twice
It's honestly been so many months since I last played that I forget what the roulette is even called. You know what I meant.
I’m giving you a tip for the next dozen threads you schizos want to spam, just take it instead of digging a deeper hole. Update your script.
What the frick are you even talking about you dumb homosexual
>UHM ACTUALLY IT'S EXPERT ROULETTE NOT EXTREME ROULETTE THAT PROVES YOU'RE A LIAR WHEN YOU HAVEN'T PLAYED FOR MONTHS AND MIXED UP THE TWO CONTENT TYPES THAT BOTH START WITH EX
Sorry you got caught lying and looked silly on an anonymous image board. I wish you a speedy recovery.
I'm not even the anon who posted that, I'm just saying that this kind of ridiculous nitpicking is insane. It's pretty easy to understand why a casual player who hasn't touched the game in months would confuse expert and extreme on the fly. Do you realize this is why people think the players of this game are fricking lunatics?
>ridiculous nitpicking
Who’s ready to raid mythic ragnarok in classic hardcore bros
Do you not notice how expert and extreme start with the same two letters which might lead to a mix-up to someone who hasn't played in a while? Or are you being obtuse on purpose?
You ready bro? Mythic rag here we come
I’ll give you another hint, they aren’t expert dungeons either. Nobody calls them expert dungeons
Yes, they absolutely do.
That’s the name for the roulette you fricking moron. The dungeons are never given an expert moniker because nothing is actually special about them. They are the current dungeons released most recently.
>That’s the name for the roulette you fricking moron.
And the dungeons in that roulette are referred to as expert dungeons you stupid fricking ape.
No, that’s what I’m telling you and you are refusing to take the hint.
If you want to shitpost. Do not call them ducking expert dungeons because nobody refers to them as that. It’s not like mythic+ you fricking moron.
I'm not shitposting you fricking moron, dungeons in the expert roulette are referred to as expert dungeons. I'm not even sure how the frick this is in contention. It's standard terminology I hear literally every fricking day.
Schizo, your ultimate clears?
No one has ever said "want to run an expert dungeon"
What the frick is this conversation
My static members ask that exact question every night after raid.
at best it's "want to run an expert" with roulette being the implied word
My friend needed 50 tomes and said he'll quickly run an expert dungeon. Not roulette.
My man nobody is running a dungeon for 50 tomes when you could do a couple of games of CC for that paltry an amount, stop trying to shitpost through osmosis or atleast do more research
>talking about how nobody does things
>mentions PvP as something people do for a change
Oh so your lack of game knowledge is not limited to just terminology.
Yes that’s literally exactly when people play pvp for a small amount of tomestones because it takes zero time and there is no dps queue
My friend needed to get his pre-60 bfs gear (best for slot, we use this term all the time) to take on the mythic rag dungeon.
all of my friends say bfs
It’s what everyone calls it
It's best for socket, you moron.
>slot
>not spot
I hate zoomers like you
I have said that multiple times you gay moron
Outted yourself as being friendless, fcless, lonely loser
You do realize the dungeons are phased out in this roulette with what is current, none of the dungeons are referred to as “expert”. That’s the name for the queue.
Again, this is what happens when you try to shitpost through osmosis you look like the most braindead homosexual imaginable. Imagine tripling down on this shit.
Yes we do lmao what the frick is with this blatant lie?
We do you aspie. You go look at any discussion and people will say "oh X was the best expert dungeon we had in a while".
Hilarious.
Funny how this halted the paragraphs about trannies and shit
>people talking about game
>low IQ specimen can't participate without outing themselves as tourists
wow, what a surprise
>hurdur they sound alike so that’s why I was confused
That explains why you, the braindead shitposter, gets them confused but not the player who has reached endgame which would likely mean years of playing and being on current content.
Still waiting on those ultimate clear screenshots anon
Anon it’s literally just as moronic as referring to classic naxx as mythic+, I said you don’t need to do this. Take the tip
What’s with this nu-Ganker style of shitpost where morons actually follow discussion about a game and try to learn it through osmosis, like an AI or some shit. Like this dude had sat through enough threads to know extreme is a difficulty, he knows ultimates exist, but doesn’t know the basic ass rules for how the content is set up. Shit you would know 2 hours in when you reach the first dungeon.
Post your ultimate weapons
you know that this addons doesn't really work, huh?
You know after doing the Unreal of this, I've come to the sad realization that Mr. Happy was right. What braindead Black person can't skip soar?
I really, honestly think Yoshi-p should've killed off WoL in Endwalker and made up some bullshit why you can still play your character and put FFXIV on life-support, then focus on making FFXVII - a new MMORPG that doesn't look and play like something from 15 years ago with shitty jap netcoding.
I'm fricking FINE with at least one goddamn MMORPG actually ending and not dying a slow, painful death until nobody gives a shit about it anymore.
I have no idea how, but they shouldn't have continued with the void so soon after Endwalker finished. It was 100% the right idea to finish the story in 6.0 as to not draw it out further, but immediately going back into multiversal danger was a bad move. Maybe if they had just given us 5 patches of pure gameplay and QoL content, and then come out with Dawntrail as a more local, low stakes story, it would have felt a lot better.
I was like half convinced WoL would die and we would be playing either another timeline or like some lifestream induced dream where Hydaelyn shows us what ifs or something. Woulda been kino but Endwalker (and ShB to a lesser extent) had no balls and wouldn't kill anyone of consequence.
Criterion is the best content they've come out with yet since Eureka
Shame theres so little of them and zero reason to go back once you've done it once.
>turn based autist is too moronic to understand roman numerals
>That one butthurt yoshidrone that can't handle that fact people dislike XIV
>defending yoshitp for free
lmao homie is so insecure, literally using the same arguments in every single thread
>make up actual lies about thing
>WHY YOU GETTIN MAD BRO I JUST DONT LIKE THE GAME
weird post
anyone else tincan?
>primal plat time yesterday
30+ minutes
>primal plst time today
28 minutes
Improvement 🙂
asmongold isnt playing ur shit game anymore thats why it's failing fftroons
Then why didnt you follow him and leave
>ex-blizzdrones so determined to get one up on the invisible schizo in their walls that they're now trying to gaslight everyone into thinking nobody says "expert dungeons"
Every day we transcend the limits of mental illness just a bit further.
LFM Louhi prep. aether pagos
PLease wait I fell off the cliff
thanks guys
Didn't Dawntrails teaser trailer surpass viewership for Endwalkers teaser in only 4 days?
Other companies have finally learned proper Viewbotfu from Riot
I was surprised by that considering the main story was pretty much done and dusted. Guess those wowfugees just took a break. I did too after finishing 6.0s story and came back recently just to level up shit. Doesn't feel like I missed much in the year and a half I took a break.
About time, this game has been getting worse and worse since 4.0
I ain't returning to 14 til most of the LGBT homosexuals are gone. What made this game explode in LGBT players? Was it Shadowbringers because of Battle for Azeroth fumbling?
Virtual chatrooms always attract that crowd. The next big MMO will be crawling with them too.
They are in every online space.
>They are in every online space.
When I played FFXI back in 2005 there was a single troony on an entire server
the first troony i ever talked with was on wow in like 2006. Its porn + having an avatar + women in game not being the nerfed little fatasses they are in real life.
like if every MMORPG gave women 60% of the stats as men, half of all trannies would disappear (the coomer angle remains, unforunately).
Anon did the time they got pushback for not having gay marriage for the eternal bond ceremony so they added it not tip you off 9 years ago? Are you trolling now
They should fix it so ceremony marriage can only work with male and female characters. Also ban ALL LGBT references as well as FCs that have that shit.
Basically do what Nintendo did to Animal Crossing.
as people said, every chatroom is filled with these morons nowadays
don't expect anything else from the Riot MMO. It's gonna be the same shit. If anything, Riot will actually play ball with them
Name one online community that isn't full of them.
You can't even name Ganker.
Japanese company so it attracts all the autistic weebs who are also troonys in higher concentrations.
All zoomers are either homosexuals or trannies
They just grew up and started playing online games
All online games are like this now, not only XIV, welcome to post 2015
Uhhhh gaslight sisters???
those were different times
trust me, nowadays we don't say it anymore
Threads like these really expose the newbie Shadowbabs.
I can't believe the doomsissies learned how to go back in time and plant phrases in the community lexicon just to own us, sisters...
>my source?
>6 posts on a Mongolian tapestry image board of course
Terminally online.
Almost 500 posts beginning from HW era. Want to try another cope?
You know WoW used to have heroic and normal before adding mythic
What's that even supposed to mean?
Try to think about it a little
I seriously have no clue. I've never played WoW so I have no context. Are you trying to say that expert dungeons were new or something? Because you'd be wrong.
We're talking about an online video game on the same website. I can only imagine you're trolling at this point.
>you are le trolling
Says the gay who had a complete schizo meltdown when his copypaste post had an error
Did you also know wow used to have a flex raid difficulty (it was then molded into the normal difficulty)
No, I did not know that and I still have no idea what you're trying to imply.
I remember running flex BT back in TBC, is all.
not sure you know what flex mean
No one plays fricking wow, leftys seethe over the superior mmo XIV mogged that world of wartrans
>posts on a Chinese cartoon image board are his source
Terminally online. Surprised you said HW instead of HS. Could find people calling it that too
Can you now search to see how many people called them extreme dungeons, because that’s what started your meltie
>posting proof that i'm wrong is a schizo meltie
Embarrassing. And anyway, you're wrong because what started this was this homosexual claiming nobody uses the term expert dungeon
Now you want to shift goalposts because you were exposed as being a fricking lunatic. I seriously don't understand what the frick happened to this community.
How about you just say what the frick you're trying to imply. I have not played WoW and I have no fricking idea what you're even saying.
Aaaaaannnnd the meltdown continues.
All this because someone told you
>hey dude don’t say extreme dungeons those don’t exist, you expose yourself as a moronic shitposter
I didn't make that post you insane homosexual.
KWAB
*crack*
*siiiiiiiip*
I remember the good ole days of vanilla WoW when we would farm flex naxx, after we achieved our bgp (best gear possible) from clearing the mythic version. Any fellow vanillachads know this feel right now?
Alright man I'm not interested in your meaningless word salads anymore. Here's your last (You).
Hop on ffxiv bro let’s run some ultimate dungeons, cause you’ve already cleared expert
Anon, it has been almost 30 minutes and you still haven't posted your ultimate clears or any proof that you actually play. Where are they? I'm waiting, clock is ticking.
Sorry bro I’ll post it right when I finish this unreal dungeon
At least we can agree that you don't play the game
>we
Wow's trash and always has been.
This is literally one of the funniest meltdowns I’ve seen in awhile, since 6.0
Yeah, what kind of moron doesn't call it an expert dungeon?
>nobody says expert dungeon!
>"well actually they do and here's proof"
>OH MY GOD YOU'RE MELTING DOWN LMAO
Someone could use this thread as “proof” of extreme dungeons existing. Why are you still so assmad over this
It's called an expert dungeon, moron
I thought it was extreme dungeon
So people casually using the terms in threads on this board in 2017 are all just shitposting tourists?
>Why are you still so assmad over this
Because it's fricking insane that the community has lost its mind to this extent that they'll pretend common community phrases never really existed.
You need to call down log on right now, let’s run an extreme dungeon
>extreme dungeon
>common community phrase
Read the reply chain. It was about "expert dungeons". Psychotic shitposter freaks.
The reply chain in which you made the same shitty post twice and were corrected?
I heard a furry spread covid at the fanfest, is it true?
wowtroons kinda ruined the game. It's just a social hub with mmo and single player campaign (only good part of the game) tacked on it these days. I just sub to catch up on the plot
How did 14 become IMVU 2.0?
Mods becoming too powerful
Zero spyware anticheat because of the game being almost completely serverside means modding was exceptionally easy to get into. Its easier to mod XIV currently than fricking Skyrim.
Also a lot of the IMVU and Skyrim modders unironically moved to XIV which explains a lot of the bullshit.
>It's just a social hub with mmo and single player campaign
I already said that ages ago. It's why there is no midcore content. People either chill in Limsa or are hardcore raiders that do savage/ultimates
Ive tried to get into FF14 but it sucks ass to start out in.
My friends say it gets good at like lvl 50. The frick im not gonna do that. Plus it looks like shit and play like shit.
arr is not THAT bad. the post arr is the real slop. You're basically locked at lvl 50 with a bunch of mandatory boring msq before you can advance to heavensward
It doesn't "get good" at 50. If you don't like ARR you won't like the rest of the "game". Its the same shit from level 1 to max level. You are watching cutscenes and running between NPCs activating the next step in the cutscene reel. Theres like 1200 hours of running between NPCs watching cutscenes.
at least the quest design gets a little less tedious. the quests in arr were made to annoy you lmao
If I pay someone to level crafters for me am I expected to front gil for that shit or do they have like alts they just trade over the food and gear they need
>release new game
>stocks go down
how?
because SE told investors that the new FF was gonna sell 20 billion copies
It didn't sell 20 billion copies, so investors start selling at least some of their stock because the company didn't perform as well as they hoped it would
Buy the rumor, sell the news.
This is very standard in the market.
>xiv players can't talk about their game without mentioning wow
why?
Because wow is garbage and the shitty community fricking soiled my game.
The assmongloid fans are the worst top who don't even play they just shit their mouths and scream.
I just wanna play my cute bookish catgirl and commission funny comics of her in peace.
>anon doesn't realize that the "ffxiv community" is 80% ex wow players
Fricking bullshit lies, it's final fantasy players and people who enjoy quality and not wow's goyslop fountain.
I don't classify the fricking wowtards as ffxiv players, they're tourists, barely human.
>people who enjoy quality
LMFAO who are you kidding
Wow puts out shitty 8 dollar paperbacks written by literal whos to explain story and has nothing in game.
Fricking play shadowbringers then maybe talk to me blizzdrone.
I have 4.5k hours on the game, if you cared about quality you wouldn't play a shitty visual novel with a raiding minigame disguised as an MMO
>"my game gets gets good for 1 patch after 100 hours of slop story, dogshit world design and awful gameplay"
kys, ziv troony
I bet you bought actual shit written by the hacks who write girlboss dead lady and woke orcs.
>story in wow
You know shit, anon. stick to your dead cutscene simulator and don't forget to buy the new store mount otherwise yoshida is going to kill himself on stream
Go back to your furry simulator and tell em zella-mia sent you.
I don't give a shit about blizzard's or yoship's garbage storytelling. I play videogames for the gameplay not to watch my character nod in a clumsily animated cutscene.
Where's the new BLU grinding spot, like the Kholusia goblin coast was to get to 70?
I mean if my choice is playing XIV or playing BG3, I'm playing BG3.
I'll play XIV again once an expansion hits. Post-patch has been a drag with nothing like Bozja or Eureka
he's just tired. he works 35 hours a day.
>wrong, that man is deceased
After playing XIV for almost 9 years the formula is getting a bit dull to me.
I still enjoy the story (minus the latest patch, Golbez is uninteresting) but there's no surprises to the actual gameplay or content.
The formula would still work for me if they didn't cut everything down so much. No relic, no deep dungeon, criterion flopping has meant there is literally NOTHING to do other than casual dungeons or sweaty raiding.
SISTERS I THOUGHT OUR STORY CONTENT ONLY MULTIPLAYER VISUAL NOVEL WAS GENRE DEFINING PEAK FICTION??????? ARE PEOPLE STARTING TO REALIZE THAT THE CONTENT IS ALWAYS THE SAME FRICKING SHIT EVERY EXPANSION???
The MMO menace is finally being purged from Final Fantasy.
Nomura Full Control is Imminent.
All MMOs will be cancelled.
All MMO subscribers will be arrested and executed.
All MMO devs will be arrested and executed.
>FF14troony player logic when WOW loses players: lol, dead game
>FF14troony player logic when their own game is dying: WELL BUT YOU SEEE BUT UHMMM THAT DOESNT MEAN THE GAME IS BAD LOOK AT THIS GRAPH, AND THAT GRAPH, NOW TURN THEM AROUND, ITS ALWAYS LIKE THIS EVERY EXPAC, GAME HAS MORE THAN ENOUGH CONTENT TO HOLD ITSELF FOR ANOTHER 10 YEARS, AND UHM, WOW BAD, BARRY BARRY BARRY BARRY
Literally the only reason that sets your expansions apart and how you are able to rank them from "best to worst" is only and literally ONLY by how good the story is, never the actual content of the expansion itself, because that would otherwise make you look back on the 10 years you have been playing this copy pasted schlop
Mucho texto
YOU JUST DONT UNDERSTAND
XIV IS NOT A MEDIOCRE MMO
XIV IS GOOD
WOW BAD
Yes wow is bad, anyone saying otherwise is just another slopsucker world of wartrans is complete shit.
They tried completely ripping off Au Ra but with garbage western art. Imagine being down so bad you have to copy the least liked race in xiv.
>They tried completely ripping off Au Ra but with garbage western art. Imagine being down so bad you have to copy the least liked race in xiv.
This is how mentally ill xivtroons are lmaooooo
>least liked race in xiv
But that's femroe you dumb moron
You know they are serious by all the caps
>wowfugees when they see their towns with 5 players total in them, each in a separate shard to save server load
>YOU DONT UNDERSTAND, WE HAD 40 MILLION PLAYERS, WE WERE THE BEST ONCE
Wow's gonna die this year, christy golden will be unemployed ffxiv will continue dominating east and west.
Blizzdrones in shambles
I started this game over a year ago and I couldn’t keep going past the titan fight. The community this game has is possibly the second worst community I’ve seen, after WoW. And yes, it took me a year to motivate myself to play until titan.
I just found out they added a new deep dungeon in 6.35 and nobody told me because all of my friends quit the game too
I did the story for it and then never did it again because I leveled all jobs to cap roughly 15 months before it released.
Big FFXIV fan; Endwalker base expansion was nice, the supporting content afterwards has been horrible/lacking terribly.
>8 man raids have been shit compared to the Eden's
>Budget animal crossing island isn't fun, nice in theory, but poorly executed
>24 man raids have been really good so far, but they are so few and far between that it doesn't matter as far as keeping people playing
>FFXIV deep dungeons are shit, and always have been. The fact they used valuable time and personnel to make another copy/paste deep dungeon is mind-boggling.
>Nothing to grind like Bozja/Eureka, even if those were very flawed. Even making people have to go back to Bozja to grind relic or something would have boosted interest, even though that's a cheap blow.
The alliance raids, and funnily enough, the MSQ dungeons + 2 variant dungeons have been the best content, but that's not nearly enough.
If they don't release a grindable zone type of thing the expansion will probably be the worst one yet in terms of post-MSQ updates.
Bozja sucks
Yeah it kinda does, but it was at least something to grind with a large number of people at once. There is nothing to do for current expac.
Eureka sucked too but at least they were more interesting than just "turn in some tomestones"
What they should have done is more saucer updates and had relic steps from saucer shit. Manderville weapons not having saucer shit is soulless
>Only release content for the majority of players
>The majority are story only gays who don't do savage, eureka, ultimate, really anything beside the main story
>Release 0 content
>The Casual Gankerermins clap
Who would have thought? This is why you pander to the minorities in mmo
>B-but only 5% of players do it
The only 5 % that play the game
Every game Tigole touched sharted itself and died, how about no
Yet XIV was fine in SB, curious
didn't happen with XV
Barry won
There just isn't anything to fricking do this expansion unless you're a raider, and even then it's not a whole lot.
The typical long-term grinds, an adventuring foray and the relic weapon, basically didn't exist this expansion. Instead we got some of the worst casual content ever introduced to the game and a joke of a relic weapon questline.
I haven't stayed subbed longer than a month since Endwalker came out.
Cool, you can unsub and play other games now
>play game
>every day
>for 10 years
>surprised when you run out of things to do
they had a warning about neglecting your real life when you logged into FFXI and XIV 1.0. do you all need to see that screen every time again?
You need a screen that says
>children are not sexually attractive
>grow up, go outside, stop avatargayging
kys troony
How do we fix gearing bros? Only needing to change gear once every 10 levels until you hit max level is kind of boring
P1S-P8S were atrocious tiers, unfun and frustrating. I know tons of people that quit and havent come back
My whole FC left in between P7 and P8.
It's not that it was hard, it's that it was shit. We already worked jobs, having to come home every Tuesday and panic clear everything (didn't have enough to fill all 8 so it was a PF gamble) was just plain not fun.
I've done every Savage raid in the game (did all of them before joining this FC, did the rest without them) and the mechanics are all the same shit. There's literally like a list of ten mechanics and every piece of "endgame" content uses a handful of them.
>limit cut
>cleaves
>partner up
>shiva
>kb
>towers
>playstation
>mario kart
>numbers
Same shit every fricking time.
Now I'm left with an empty FC, fricking massive mansion and Lv90 subs all to myself.
It might sound nice to have those things but the loneliness is crushing.
I've been in 2 FCs that have become ghost towns after 6.1. Left the most recent one in February and I have zero intention of joining another for a long time
This tier too.
Body checks and limit cuts everywhere.
Havent done this tier yet and I dont think I will. hoping Dawntrail will fix their shit
I unironically put Stormblood over Endwalker overlall.
Stormblood was the best expansion
>Dude HW
3.1 was the last time I unsubbed
>The tenth anniversary plate is the "muh legacy player" plate
They are going to pull the "we saved this game a fricking decade ago dude" when the game is declining, aren't they?
Yep dude totally declining it’s about to die, very ironic
Reminder if you don't have a Legacy mark then you can not use the Legacy plate elements.
>Even modders are quitting
It's so over
>Log in
>Fake queue due to bots
>No one I know is online
>Log out
my fc has been dead since patch 6.3. this next year is going to be rough
ngl
i kinda want an Extreme Dungeon
That’s criterion savage bro
No, that's savage. Not extreme
You don't need 8 man savage gear to clear extremes, but you do for criterion
I logged in for the free login campaign, did the normal raids, have no desire to do anything else, not even the Main Interacting Quest
Game is so fricking stale
>This quarter, the MMOs made a total of 11 billion yen, which is about 77 million.
A fiscal quarter is 3 months, 77m from that is pretty good https://www.hd.square-enix.com/eng/ir/library/financial.html
Osrs+rs3 had around 100m revenue from a entire year
we did the math, anon. game has 1.2-1.3m players.
it's dead
wow made 170 million in a quarter
we're getting fricking murdered, even though we have whales that spend thousands per month on fantasias