FFXIV is no longer a story about anything. It's now a product for people who want to see the characters waved around in front of their eyes in a consequence-free world over and over like the MCU.
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FFXIV is no longer a story about anything.
Don’t care, still love my mom-wife.
>Mom-wife is dead-dead.
>Yshtola became a cat lady
>Lyse is in offscreen hell
>Ryne and Gaia are on scissoring duty for life
>Red Alphinaud is on permanent friendzone kouhai abyss
>Yugiri is in the shadows forever
>Choco bunny worshipper is in the hopeless fangirl slot
>Minfilia is already decomposed
>Sadu is too busy ragdolling the pink lizard around
>Hilda does not have any romantic interest with you
>Suzaku isn't for you
The amount of thirst the WoL has caused is enough to compare to a nation under severe water crisis.
>implying there were ever consequences
>High-capacity games are not viable. If this continues, manufacturers around the world will go bankrupt. People are tired of grandiose and lengthy games. The essence of games is to constantly develop new enjoyment and relentlessly improve their quality. Despite this, software makers continue to release sequels such as II, III, VII, VIII, and IX. Creators are at a dead end, and they are forced to make a qualitative shift. Companies that only cater to the Japanese market and focus on VII, VIII, and IX are not sustainable. In this way, the gaming industry is facing an existential crisis. I'm open to any counterarguments. However, no one comes forward to refute directly; they talk behind my back. This attitude also symbolizes the crisis in the industry.
>"Final Fantasy" must be different from the previous "Final Fantasy." It cannot be the same. However, until now, "Final Fantasy" has followed a consistent flow. And each previous work, spending a lot of time and money, and finishing the software that maximizes the power of CG. My thought is that the era of taking two or three years to create game software has passed, and if you do such a thing, the game business cannot prosper. Also, game companies cannot make profits. We challenge the extremely difficult problem of improving the quality of games while shortening the development period. I think game creators have reached a stage where they must consider these issues.
*causes the N64 and gc to tank*
heh nothin personnel...
>My thought is that the era of taking two or three years to create game software has passed,
Instead we now get nearly 10 year dev cycles.
The Playstation comments attributed to Yamauchi have no credible source. He was very outspoken but I cannot find proof of this quote.
>Nintendo 64 games use small capacity ROM cartridges, but "The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time" will overwhelm the high-capacity CD-ROM game "Final Fantasy VIII" released by Square. It will prove that game is not about its capacity size
but one time they killed a side character with a goofy voice who everyone totally cared about
the story never had and consequences
i too enjoy my stories being gritty and grimdark and grey, especially fantasy stories which are by definition unrealistic. i have a deep fear of other people judging me for what media i consume, so i want them to think i'm cool and mature.
>FFXIV is no longer a story about anything.
Neither is SWTOR
MMOs really shouldn't be used for this type of storytelling, they should focus on the setting and the player interacting with it
>alphinaud and co runs up to wol
>'what have you found out about this place, o warrior of light?'
>explain emote, camera pans up, fade to black
>alphinaud repeats everything you just said to him out loud
>wol nods
>alphinaud nods
.
>they approach generic village #43
>locals are immediately hostile and reclusive for absolutely no reason
>do some laundry and give someone a few blades of grass
>chief of village #43 hails you as a hero, welcomes you as a friend and guest to their humble abode
>wol nods
>alphinaud nods
>chief of village #43 nods
>game realizes the story needs to actually proceed after being an MMORPG for a while
>tataru nods
>'important' side character introduced at the beginning of the expansion/area shows up after you complete the dungeon of the zone
>they die a tragic death
>foreverlost.mp3 nods
DAWNTRAIL
SMILES AND NODS, YOU FRICK. SMILES AND NODS. GET IT FRICKING RIGHT.
>they die a tragic death
and then 20 minutes later some incredibly convoluted shit happens to explain how they didn't actually die. or they literally just get back up as if nothing happened like that part with thancred in shadowbringers. seriously wtf was up with that
Thancred wasn't introduced at the beginning of Shadowbringers, that would be Tesleen who fits that role and stayed very fricking dead.
Because whoever was writing thancred’s plot absolutely understood that it would be the most logical time to kill his character. But then yoshipiss had to veto it because he’s too scared of psychotic schizo femcel fujoshitters burning down their office
Tag your spoilers.
You just posted the only good scenario in this dogshit game anymore. Hildibrand. Everything else is haram, garbage padding.
Replaying EW on an alt reminds me how much useless shit there is. I can't stomach it.
Hopefully the next FF MMO will be better. Especially in the gameplay department. Never going back to ARR, HW or even Stormblood gameplay. Even if Stormblood was the beginning of the end, it's better then what we have now. Debating on getting Dawntrail. MMOs aren't about having fun anymore, just raiding.
>all the fan favorite jobs are represented (and not as shitty gimmicks in cases like BLU)
>story keeps to itself and doesn't waste time with needless bullshit
>no stupid crossovers or setting-breaking anachronisms
>no cancerous inspirations taken from MMOs like WoW
>races are visually distinct and not just flavors of human with costume accessories to appeal to dressupgays
The wrong child died. Even as a husk of its former self, FFXI still has more soul than any version of FFXIV.
There was a Dragon Quest and a XIV crossover, but otherwise you're correct.
>all the fan favorite jobs are represented (and not as shitty gimmicks in cases like BLU)
BLU has always been a gimmick job since it was introduced as poorman Megaman in V, same with Beast Master and others. Both MMOs are just waiting to use your burst moves either through combos or TP spam for the bulk of jobs, so don't pretend they're not just dragged out from a simple SNES game where they mostly had Attack and something quirky to set them apart from the rest of the group of job options.
>story keeps to itself and doesn't waste time with needless bullshit
All those JP midnight breaks and ultimately being a huge fetch quest requiring wikis to figure out pre-Adoulin content doesn't respect the player's time nor keep the story engaging. The fact that the nation missions are basically the same up til Rank 6 is a real shame, but they get a handweave due to older player dementia I'm sure.
>no stupid crossovers or setting-breaking anachronisms
They had crossovers with XIV as well as Dragon Quest with gears and other rewards like the ability to turn into monsters for Monstrosity and roam the now dead overworld maps.
>no cancerous inspirations taken from MMOs like WoW
You're wrong seeing as Everquest was the biggest template for XI due to being the defacto MMO of its time like WoW, and later SE implemented a slew of modern QoL features when Adoulin came out after the team returned from pitching in on ARR's launch version when it was all hands on deck.
>races are visually distinct and not just flavors of human with costume accessories to appeal to dressupgays
All those races are in XIV as the base races, so not much there to argue over. XI has tons of regular shirts with logos and even costume clothing from various events along with lockstyle, which is ironically superior to Yoshi's glamour system when all things are considered.
>BLU has always been a gimmick job since it was introduced as poorman Megaman in V
It's as much a 'gimmick job' as Summoner or Bard. It just has a unique way of obtaining spells, that's all. It's not a minigame.
>The fact that the nation missions are basically the same up til Rank 6 is a real shame
They're only the same for three missions, but I get that you didn't play it.
bard usually sucks ass and summoner's usefulness generally tapers off towards auto-raise/reraise and reflect as the game wears on since they're not made for and suck at single-target combat (aka bosses)
>bard usually sucks ass
>conversation about FFV and FFXI
Bard sucks ass in FFIV and only in FFIV, you mean.
not true, it also sucks ass in FF3 outside of pixel remaster
this boy actually gonna pretend he used songstress in ffx-2
Sucks in FFTA2 too since Hurdy's not a useful unit and Bard doesn't push him over the edge into being useful enough to take
Yeah? Songstress is great. What are you doing not buffing your team?
>bard usually sucks ass
You have not played FF
>and summoner's usefulness generally tapers off towards auto-raise/reraise and reflect as the game wears on since they're not made for and suck at single-target combat (aka bosses)
You have DEFINITELY not played FF
Protip: There's a damage cap in single player FFs of 9999 damage that SMN hits with Bahamut just as easily as BLM does with Flare
>bard usually sucks ass
>You have not played FF
Bard's worse in more games than it's good.
>BLU has always been a gimmick job since it was introduced as poorman Megaman in V
>play FFV, change Bartz to BLU, can continue playing the game
>play FFVI, put Strago in my party, can continue playing the game
>play FFVII, equip Enemy Skill materia, can continue playing the game
>play FFVIII, put Quistis in my party, can continue playing the game
>play FFIX, put Quina in my party, can continue playing the game
>play FFX, put Kimahri in my party, can continue playing the game
>play FFXI, change job to BLU, can continue playing the game
>play FFXIV, change job to BLU WHOA WHOW WHOA WAIT HOLD UP WHAT IF YOU CAST [RESISTED] ON THE BOSS STOP IT YOU CAN'T WATCH MSQ CUTSCENES ON BLU
Yeah, one of these things is not like the other
FFXI-2 never ever and its already too late if we did get it.
The fact that they're considering it as an offline game is the biggest sin of all, since not only does that mean they could do the same for XI, but they really don't have any faith in DQ outside of Japan despite people loving Square Enix MMOs
Isn't the offline version just a demo that you carry over into the MMO
Good. Id play FF 11 and 14 if they had offline gameplay like PSO did.
>FFXI-2 never ever
Yeah, they really should've let XI's director and producer make a second MMO.
He says this not knowing all the shit Yoshi added to XIV was shit Tanaka was planning to add to XIV eventually anyway.
Bruh beastmaster and blue were considered in that game, it was exactly well balanced
Just kill this game already and make the next final fantasy mmo
Since the next FF MMO would 100% be an action game akin to PSO2 or BDO or whathaveyou, what kind of shit would you like to see in it?
a dragoon that's fun to play
square purposefully avoids dragoons in action games because they're hard to pull off
Honestly PSO2 partisan's moveset feels very Dragoon inspired
It even got its own dragoon style Jump attack you can do after certain combos/skills with a weapon action input
I don't blame them, the Dragoons iconic method of attack is "jump a hundred fricking feet into the air and come crashing down like a meteor stirke" kind of hard to implement into an action game.
I saw the idea in these threads once that a Dragoon should just play like Prototype with a spear weapon
XIVtards when experiencing a less than mediocre story dripfed through 100+ hours of waypoint quests
BIGGERS
>all linking to the OP
>nothing creative
>all very common bait
demand better bait. deep bait! great bait! bait that is powerful and formidable! bait that crushes...like a mace
I'm going to deep dick this potato and crush her womb like a mace
I don't get it, is we reposting some stupid shit we saw earlier on the board?
Ain't no way blud ain't usin the bard rizz??? He playin
YoshiP needs to get it through his thick fricking skull that it is OK to kill off characters so there is at least some kind of impact in his stories.
T/N: why won't the scions die
Why do they need to die?
Some worf bullshit to show the next villian is SO STRONG and SO EVIL or something?
Why not just gently phase them into different roles as we collect another group of friends to have arcs with?
Or why not simply write new stories for them?
Tired of cheap deaths for easy stake raising.
if people don't die how will they tell their friends how awesome it is
character deaths are cheap and used for shock value and further milking (haurchefant) however when none of the SO STRONG and SO EVIL villains can do any substantial damage to the main characters in a meaningful way then the story lacks any sort of threat or conflict which is why most people complain about villains being weekly cartoon characters.
counterpoint: devil may cry
>but my shlocky action game with a campy joke storyline has no stakes
Okay?
this whole post outs you as a smoothbrain on the matter, this game has already had a DMC-like storytelling method through ran'jit, who is an incredible threat to the scions and thancred especially but a forgettable solo instance to You The Player
therefore "the stakes" will not apply to You The Player, who will still be the medium through which you interact with the game and the character vehicle that allows impossible things to happen, but "the stakes" will apply to supporting characters who both have considerable personal stake in whatever's going on and are likely not able to deal with the situation themselves
getting mad the main character is invincible and trying to drag him down for a sense of artificial "stakes" is why superman comics generally suck
The stakes don't apply to the supporting cast either except for freshly introduced characters who were written in just to die 30 minutes later so basically you're just fricking stupid, as if that wasn't already obvious by you believing XIV shouldn't have stakes because another game doesn't.
>the stakes don't apply except to these characters i am aware they apply to but also i am describing moenbryda, haurchefant and tesleen who i'm also aware are characters "made examples of" and there are many other on-screen deaths of major and minor characters
you are a smoothbrain
Moenbryda and Tesleen were introduced for the sole purpose of being killed. That's exactly what I mean. There are no stakes for the main cast because if there needs to be a serious moment then the writers use a red shirt they wrote in specifically to fill that moment. Haurchefant was the last time that wasn't the case.
how they're approached in terms of being treated as plot devices and not characters is completely different owing to the nearly decade long gap between those points of the story, the two different writers, and the fact that maehiro is kind of a shit writer
a throwaway character death is not inherently a bad thing when it actually serves a purpose in the narrative, ishikawa did a significantly better job in this regard than maehiro did both with swinging moenbryda's death around into being a core part of urianger's own character, plus his suicidal thoughts since that event playing into ultima thule, while tesleen inarguably eats it even faster than moenbryda does but she's used as a touchstone for alisaie and doesn't contribute plot critical gadgetry before dying, so she isn't introduced for an explicit purpose and then killed after leading to her character being much more natural in execution in spite of her brevity
the only reason haurchefant wasn't killed quicker is because heavensward wasn't going on at the time of his introduction, ARR was
dmc doesnt take itself seriously like ff does, even the vergil fight is played for jokes in dmc5, there is a difference between hehehaha funny pizza man and very serious and stoic main character (god) and their ever expanding party of what should be extremely mortal people that die just as easily as anyone else can
DMC3 plays itself pretty straight the whole while, it's moment-to-moment interactions that aren't serious.
80% of the cutscenes is dante fricking around and the other 10% is lady cutscenes and the last 10% includes vergil
Him fricking around is actually relevant because he gets BTFO most of the time. It shows him going from immaturity to some maturity as the gsme progresses. Granted, 4 fricked this up by reverting to le wahoo boom boom pizzaman...
He's over the moon in DMC4 because he's learned Nero exists and he has a living relative. Mind you he(thinks he)'s killed his only brother and he sealed Mundus somewhat recently so not only is he lonely in a way that Lady and Trish orbiting him can't fulfill, he can't get any higher on the universe's existing power-scale.
>Somehow, Vergil has returned: the series
You could not have picked a worse example.
that is not the point of the DMC example at all anon-kun
if you ask what the point was you can either scroll down or leave the thread in shame
>character deaths are cheap and used for shock value
So why do the writers keep pretending to kill characters off only to reveal it was yet another fakeout death?
Why don't they just stop pretending to kill off characters when they don't have any intention to do so?
Why don't disingenous homosexuals like you ever answer his fricking question?
>>Why do they need to die?
Why do they need to NOT die? Is it because you're a waifugay and are just scared of your waifu being killed off?
>>Why do they need to die?
I dunno
Why did Heavensward kill off Haurchefant and Ysayle? You tell me.
It's also coincidentally (or not) the best written expansion in the entire game.
Ysayle's death was pointless
Every single scion is a completely stagnant character that either lacks a character arc or repeats the same one over and over. It's slop like Dragon Ball Super.
Quit the game then.
Blud playin an MMO like it's a VN...
You are the one crying about story stuff here. Just leave the game and it will all be over.
this homosexual really pretending the FFXIV MSQ is not just reading textboxes
Bro I skip all that boring shit.
>I buy expansions to skip 95% of what I paid for
lol whatever weirdo
Lol what? The MSQ is like 4 hours, but you're not re-reading it for 2-3 years. You're leveling, grinding, progging, crafting, clearing, and /beeskneeing for the rest of the expansion. That's the real XIV, MSQ is just fluff.
You aren't doing that shit in X.0. Sounds like you skip reading because you can't read.
Yes you are lol.
>beat MSQ
>start leveling other jobs
>start farming EX1 and EX2
>start leveling crafters and gatherers
All in X.0. Before normal raids are even introduced, you must be one of them slow readers.
>start farming EX1 and EX2
farming for what? You get your weapon and you are done. There is no mount.
You are an idiot.
>there is no mount
AHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA moron YOU DON'T EVEN PLAY THE GAME
>there is no mount
Holy frick dude, research before you do your pajeet-paid shitposting.
>not in X.0
You're joking right?
Game of Thrones and its death worshipping fans have ruined fantasy for an entire generation
The entire story of this game is about coping with mortality. The Ascians were driven to extremes because they couldn't or wouldn't accept that bad things happen. And then the writers coddle you in the exact same way. That's poor writing.
the player is not a character in the story anon
Bad things can happen but someone else really shouldn't decide how you get to react to those bad things
>And then the writers coddle you in the exact same way.
This is so incredibly vague and non-explanatory you may as well have just curled up and shat into your own mouth for all the argumentative good it does. I've attached this illustrated example.
I think you know exactly why I'm talking about which is why you're responding so viscerally. Go look up some loporrit pictures and calm down before replying again.
Just say "u mad" next time, you're touching yourself while you write your posts and I'm not here for that.
You're pretty visibly mad, bud. I know this is a hot button topic for you. Wanna talk about Lord of the Rings again?
>Wanna talk about Lord of the Rings again?
What?
Do you ever get tired of playing stupid?
better to play stupid than play smart
Are you trying to argue with somebody completely different about something completely different through me as a vector?
No, I'm arguing with you and getting secondhand embarrassment from this routine you do where you think your posts don't glow like the sun. Your posting style is almost as obvious as Bazztek's.
>No, (yes)
Bye bye then.
>coping with mortality
>when the ascians were wiped out due to an extraterrestrial force that was kept hidden from them by one of their own
That doesn't work that way. The ascians were actively being murdered. It made sense they tried to reverse it. Just like you do in Endwalker
They wanted to reverse the flow of the Lifestream for their own sakes because they couldn't cope with their friends being dead. Because their entire cope about death being a nice cozy retirement was contingent on them having complete control of the process. When reminded that they are not in control they lost their shit and abandoned their role of the planet's stewards, opting instead to use the Lifestream as fuel for their comfort.
The problem are the extremes they were willing to go to reverse it, which involved killing everyone and everything else. And "lol those lifeforms don't count" is a piss poor excuse from a decadent society. Even without Meteion, the Ancients were already on their way out, because they had no way to prevent another Hermes appearing somewhere else.
Anon the writers killed major characters off in Heavensward and everyone loved that expansion.
The characters can die or live for all I care, but if you have no intention of killing them, stop pretending like you do. It's one thing for Y'shtola to get injured so she sits out of Stormblood to let other characters have screentime. It's another to have her fall in a hole just to bring her back to active duty a few quests later.
The immortality of the Scions was a Mistake, in an ideal world it would just be WoL with Post-Heavensward-Pre-Stormblood Alphinaud, and Tataru as the designated MC wranglers (Red Alphunaud and Krile can come along sometimes) with all other characters being made for their role and then put aside until needed again in an ever changing world where if the beast fit for a character is to die then they will die.
Putcha' phone down.
>FINAL fantasy
>there's like 30 of them
what gives!?
Well, FF9 is the only good one in the series, so you don't really have to bother with the rest.
how are people stupid enough to make this joke after almost 40 years of the franchise existing
how are people stupid enough to still buy and be hyped for final fantasy games
Counterpoint, you only described GAAS. People told you this is what you are signing up and paying for even your Mother, who doesnt play games and you didnt listen to.
>shut up mom i know what im doing
This was infact a lie told in contrarianism, since it took anon a decade to learn what they are doing
Say no more, im here to help
The story doesn't need stakes chud, you're just supposed to clap when Y'shtola girlbosses
Yoshida slams his head into the wall every day realizing they could've milked Emet 100x harder if they didn't kill him.
Killing him hasn't stopped them one bit.
They squeezed all they could out of EW, but imagine if he reformed and joined the scions? That's what I mean, they'll be stuck with flashbacks like Haurchefant.
i'll drop this game if they continue to include him in a hamfisted way
>but imagine if he reformed and joined the scions?
i would quit the game.
reminds me
why are femoids and gays so thirsty Emet-Selch, Graha, and Estinien?
Especially Einstein with this shirtless sweaty fanservice of a cutscene in 6.3 or whenever.
>Why do girls like dark, brooding lone wolf bishonen hero
No idea dude
People pay a sub fee to essentially watch Yoshi-P play with his actions figures for 100 hours
True. If you're still playing after Endwalker it's because you're scared of giving up something you invested so much time into even though it's essentially over.
Homestuck Schizo has begun reporting the thread
>FFXIV is no longer a story about anything
What makes you think that? It has macro themes and stories for a whole expansion and then smaller stories in side content. All EW side content had recurring story themes they tried to harp on, good or bad. The patch MSQ always tried to harp on the same themes as well.
>Life is full of suffering. Don't avert your eyes. Only through forging ahead through adversity can you learn to overcome it and be prepared to deal with it again.
>WAIT DID SOMETHING STRESSFUL HAPPEN QUICK BRING OUT PUDDINGWAY
if evidence supported you you wouldn't need hyperbole. lol
That's not hyperbole that's literally what happens after the solo duty in Garlemald after you return from Elpis
WAIT DID SOMETHING STRESSFUL HAPPEN is absolutely masterful hyperbole
But that's the thing, the story kept seriousness on point while it was serious and then used humor as a stopping point. It didn't have Whedon-type quips in the middle of stressful scenes and didn't try to add levity where it didn't matter. We didn't get the scene of Quintus shooting himself and then a cutoff scene of Lucia sighing and saying the stress of duty makes her want to shoot herself. We had the return from Elpisso to the cool guy entrance back to Garlemald followed by Puddingway signaling that now you can relax, there is a change of pace. Humor is important when you spend time dealing with subjects like that.
Yes but consider Lalafell midriffs
perhaps we should discuss lala midriffs
asked for it
(being punched in the bell)
Who's the strongest primal?
You posted him.
Reminder that Alexander lets the WoL and is the only entity in the setting that could effortlessly defeat him if he were sp inclined
I should've posted something like Shinryu so I could bait people into the conversation
veñat forma de hydalín
>BLUgays still seething
The gift that keeps on giving
Just like FF7
That poster is actually right, though.
Idiotic rambling, same as this here
Oh no the story gets an alternative version after 25 years, how terrible.
do you mod your game?
No. Don't really need to.
I give Highlanders HUGE tiddies and rock hard abs.
They already got big breasts. Anything else is silly.
see
It's a little comical but she has a cute face so I'll let it slide this time.
wich mod?
JANNY IS A Black person
HELL YEAH
Only that damn Sidereal Whale is left.
I want to snuggle with Ryne (and maybe Gaia if she asks nicely) all night long
The only people who seethe about the idea of killing off the Scions are shippergays who waifu any one of them and would kill themselves if their waifu was killed off.
That's why they respond so viciously to the mere idea of killing off any major character (despite the game previously being willing to do so until Post-HW started the endless series of fakeout deaths). They don't care about the story itself they care abou ttheir personal waifu or husbando.
This moron in pic related would probably buy a plane ticket with his seemingly infintie wealth he uses to spend on porn of Y'shtola fricking his futa cat to Japan just to personally assasinate Yoshida if she was ever killed off.
I have nutted so much to this. There is even a voiced version now to keep me coming back
Godspeed. Hope he buys SE and has Yoshi slave away at dating simulator XIV for the rest of his days.
how much of this is there?
that dude has been commissioning art/porn of his cat and yshtola ever since ARR, there is tons of it
>Alphinaud likes boots?? Well he's gonna love these.
The story peaked in Heavensward and I'm tired of pretending it didn't. It was the one and only time the story ever felt like a proper JRPG with actual stakes and a satisfying conclusion.
Having a set of characters around for years is pretty nice, you can see them grow and change and so.
I mean the story is far better than any other MMO story where the cast is replaced regularly and you just stop caring after a while.
The scions haven't actually grown. The most development came from Alphinaud in HW lol. They dressed Thancred, Yshtola,and Urianger in new clothes and most people think they developed a personality, which is really funny. It's so bad that Alphinaud actually goes through character regression during 5.5 onwards.
The games problem is that it never shows characters outside of the world ending, high stakes MSQ. If they had a friendship/dating system that let's these characters breath and interact in a more casual manner with you, it would remedy a lot of the grievances people have with the cast. Even if you replaced them all and Wuk was your new go to buddy, her just being in the MSQ would mean she ends up the same. A dating system would unironically improve the greater storytelling of XIV.
>YOU SHOULD JUST KILL CHARACTERS INSTEAD OF DEVELOPING THEM IN DIFFERENT AND UNEXPECTED WAYS BECAUSE...BECAUSE YOU JUST FRICKIN' SHOULD, OKAY?!
i wish i could hit every writer who thinks this in the head with a brick until it fixes whatever causes them to think that
Characters should have closure, not necessarily die. ff14 is written like a shitty shonen.
It's because it brings social media buzz, and that is what makes writers feel good. "Oh, this story is so epic, every chapter someone else dies!!" "I can't wait for the next episode, I wonder who will get murder raped this time!"
It legit is normie baiting. In Japanese media they went to do this too by having the first few episodes be shockingly brutal to garner attention. See Goblin Slayer, that healer series and so on. Shit, even XVI tried (and failed) at it by having the first third of it be fricking GoT.
>ff16 tries to mimic got for a significant portion of its playtime
what a disgrace
Thats the only good part of XVI, ironically.
How do I know you never played Vagrant Story or FF Tactics?
The scions are not developing in different and unexpected ways. They are an extremely stale cast that adds nothing new or exciting to the story.
>They are an extremely stale cast that adds nothing new or exciting to the story.
I don't know. I like having diaperelf around. I'd change her diapers if I could
WoW having better storytelling than ff14 was a big shocker when I started playing WoW. I've never heard anyone ever say WoW had better story telling, but for some reason it actually does.
I want to impregnate an elezen.
Bottom line, when your audience is no longer convinced anything bad will ever actually happen to anyone they care about, and nothing of consequence in the narrative, they stop caring about your story. And they especially hate when you continue to PRETEND that anything bad will happen because they know you're just gonna walk whatever "death" happened back 5 minutes later.
Stories that establlish that anyone is potentially on the chopping block (minus the protagonist obviously, though some stories even cycle through protags by frequentally killing them off or doing something else to kick them out of the story), stories that establish that you anything can happen and constantly surprise you are always page turners, because you never know what is going to happen next, and the constant fear you feel for every major character keeps you under a constant state of anxiety and desire to keep reading to know if they'll survive the next chapter or not.
FFXIV has completley lost this. Nobody believes anyone of importance will so much as get a scratch on them. Even disabilities like Y'shtola's blindnes, Thancred's loss of aether manipulation, or Raubahn's arm being cut off aren't even really disabilities because they either have zero actual impact on them. Nobody is going to die. Hell, an apocalypse happened this expansion and it made zero actual impact on the world outside of Elephant India and even there it had little tangible lasting impact on their society. Everyone's already forgotten about the world-wide apocallypse. And in said apocalypse nobody in the main cast died.
Add to the fact that they've also stripped any mystery in the world away by just handwaving everything as "MUH ANCIENTS DID IT", and you have a story that is the polar-opposite of a page-turner. There's no stakes, no consequences, no mystery, nothing. FFXIV exists soley, as the OP stated, as a product for people who want to see the characters they like waved around in front of their eyes in over and over.
>keeps you under a constant state of anxiety and desire to keep reading to know if they'll survive the next chapter or not.
So your brain is that fried by social media that you are unable to consume a story without being under constant anxiety? Nothing else is able to peek your interest?
Dang dude, I am really sorry for your life.
>responding to a pasta
Ok, and? Truths being parroted doesn't make them not the truth. This isn't /LULZ/, you don't need an original comment to participate in threads or discussions.
>just let me spam my doomposter pastas till bump limit
uh, no. I want to actually have a discussion
We're having one right now, aren't we?
Not really
moron
>Wanting death and consequences in your fiction means youre a social media-fried moron
Ypu are an unserious person
This tbh.
You are more or less right.
They could have made a totally new expansion where the old cast is left behind and it starts like ARR where you arrive from a foreign land, all new cast, all new characters, and sometimes an oldie shows up but otherwise all new.
Pretty much. When they started blowing up the scions in ultima thule I just started laughing it was so corny.
conversely i find it hard to care about a story where le anything can happen XD because how do i know this character that was just introduced to me isnt going to get a columbian necktie or just disappear and is never seen or heard from again
>moronic game of thrones slop homosexual
It's all so tiresome. Typing up a lot of words and using an epic facebook meme meme image doesn't make you intelligent the same way a parrot being taught a lot of words doesn't become human.
He is so mad right now, chat.
>Only game of thrones kills off main characters
Why are you like this?
dont care, still playing it.
Eh, in roughly 9 out of 10 cases these death revolving door stories are just cases of absolute trash writers who have no idea how to engage the audience otherwise.
who gives a frick about the story when the game is fricked from copying WoW design of being made only for either braindead casuals or nolifers amd nothing in between, even though majority of players are in fact in between those, but how many EX trials are they supposed to do over and over
modern MMO design is fricking moronic
Anon, mount farming is casual content. Forays are casual content. Nothing changed besides the quality of said content, no one wants to do mount farms when all the trials are boring garbage. No one wants to do deep dungeons when it's the same shit for a third time in a row.
>Someone in party chat in a normal roulette saying random stuff
>Type Ok'Zandu using auto-translate
>Person freaks out and says I came from WoW
Is this normal in the game?
chatting isn't normal
I noticed, most people are unhinged and hang in their troony discord. Sucks no chill FC to shoot the shit in FC chat
I run a "chill" FC. I treat all new players like built-in game NPCs until they have proven to be human to me. I don't say anything. I don't even tell them this. I only tell this to the people in the FC who matter who come from a gaming clan outside of FF14 (since we overlap interest a lot). The players in FF14 is extremely unhinged and a danger to any sane person. People look to report you over the most basic level of sleights and want omni-crafters to ilvl carry them. Anyone who can do content are already in statics or look to hurt your FC if you do not set permissions like a paranoid STASI commander. Honestly I don't give a shit about people looking for a chill FC because people don't know how to chill in VC so when my guys are there to show activity we are doing content without them UNLESS they are caught up. Then we have to "know them," which takes a considerable amount of time.
This game isn't worth socializing in. I solo Bozja if none of my friends are on and solo progs on Aether if nothing else. What is "chill" to you exactly?
The only people who know that also came from wow.
>like PLD aesthetics
>WAR completely shits all over it in gameplay
AAAAA what do I commit to frick you Yoshi you fraud make Clemency a cooldown
PLD is way more fun to play.
>using clemency outside of emergencies
You regen so much now it's not an issue in any lvl 90 content.
>like tank aesthetics
>DPS completely shits all over it in gameplay
AAAAA what do I commit to frick you Yoshi you fraud switch DRK and SAM
>>DPS completely shits all over it in gameplay
DPS is just maintaining braindead button bloated rotations. Tanks and healers at least require some reactivity about using cooldowns (and spot healing when DPS fricks up).
doing damage is fun, tanking and healing is not
simple as
>numbers go up BRRRRRR
Tanking and healing is so boring that the one fun thing they focus on is the numbers going up, and of course by their nature dps will always have bigger and better numbers
Sorry…
The only difference between tank and dps is tank presses defense button when red shit appears around them.
I really don't fricking understand the common narrative that dps is much more fun than tank/healer. I mean, I could understand healer, because healing is often not needed and yet their rotations are extra simple, but tanks are trading like 10-20% complexity (if you can even call most dps complex) in exchange for actually have some reactivy in their gameplay and caring more about their positioning.
It’s like royal guard in dmc, some people just don’t like it regardless of how ‘reactive’ it is
You know, it's funny you mention that because for the longest time I was just utterly convinced Royal Guard was the "ultimate" way to play DMC games and what you were expected to always eventually specialize into once you truly got gud.
XIV is not a reactivate game in any way shape or form. Rotations follow a script and should never deviate
Better yet just restore 3.0 style DRK
>mfw Shitbringer WoWgays are finally leaving the game
Feels good man.
They aren't, unfortunately.
Nah. I finally unsubbed wow and ff xiv is my main game now.
>Complaining about WoWgays when Yoshi-P himself was a WoWgay
Huh?
FFXIV is for hebechads. Haggays please vacate the premises.
our HEROES……..and alisae
aww the yuriBlack person trying to retcon history and pretend Gaia wasn't shat on endlessly for her crap design
>hating on nomuraKINO
anyone who does this isn’t a true final fantasy fan
god I wait for the day this game finally dies
I hate you all
I wish you all lose everything you love
Everyone eventually loses everything they love, anon.
It's already dead.
Take meds
>looks at EQ, DAoC, RS, RO, XI, etc etc
Lol, see you in 25 years... longer if we include inviable private servers
>which mmo should I play for gameplay?
>wow?
>gw2?
>bdo?
>no no
>ffxiv, surely that is the mmo to play for gameplay
mmo should I play for gameplay?
>playing MMO's for gameplay
Your first mistake.
gw2 is best for ultracasual once a year players.
bdo has some cool combat
ff14 is a jrpg with mmo breaks.
t. tried them all. Personally i think gw2 and bdo are positive outliers in terms of you can have most of the fun in first hours.
Ffxiv does have the best gameplay though because it has great controller support
>play game from series that includes FF4
>WHAT THE FRICK WHY AREN'T ALL THE CHARACTERS DYING?!
>he pays sub and 40 dollars to do leves
OP=gay
XIV has never been a story about anything but mentally stagnated at high school, grown-ass men jerking each-other off with their dress-up barbie dolls and femcels living the high school social life they never experienced irl.
Gyatto
Nailed it. The general is nothing but trannies gossiping and badmouthing one another
It's insane
Like these threads are any better.
>you're a doomer
>you're a cultists
>nuh uh
>yah huh
>nuh uh
>yah huh
Maybe the game is just shit and infested with many flavours of mentally ill.
Ain't that the truth.
Location. normal people dont post here.
>I'm weird and a loser so everyone here is weird and a loser like me
I like to call this
>Anon's Fallacy
If you weren't a weird loser, you wouldn't be here to begin with
mad because I'm right
let me guess you also insist on being a women?
>continues to prove me right
Look at you, insistent on internet arguments. You're definitely a loser.
You're schrodinger's loser. You clearly don't belong here, because you're not one of us, yet you clearly belong here because you're spending your free time in a shitpost thread dedicated to FFXIV of all games.
>goes to drug then
>insists he doesnt do drugs
then again lying is mandatory for delusional fricks so what can you expect
Why not at least make your a character female cat if you're going to do all that shit to them?
anyone wana be xiv boyfriends, i can queue any role with you
No, gay.
Remember when G’raha still had a personality beyond “cute catboy”? SE certainly doesn’t.
>Blizzard: fire danuser
>Square Enix: promote kate
WoW won this round
was danuser really fired?
https://twitter.com/KENOASTRAL/status/1758998017351254211?t=otVWrb6Jc8Mt2sYsSL2Gpg&s=19
Even the biggest XIV fans are illiterate lol
>no longer
>the force shilled waifu "died" about 3-4 times and was magically revived with the most inane, plotarmor asspulls
this dogshit story never had any serious consequences for any important characters
A person healing after getting slash across the chest is an inane, plot armor asspull?
have a nice day troony shill
Considering Mefrid got lovetapped by $4 and dies but Yshtola gets gaped by Zenos and lives? Yeah it's pretty silly.
Or that Yshtola gets magically vaccuumed from the lifestream not once with magic handwaving and everything is fine except she's blind except it never hinders her in any way and she's functionally still the same because she can see 'aether.' Like give me a fricking break who writes this moronic shit
It's really not that silly though. You will die much, much faster from getting a small poke to a vital area than from a big fricking slash that doesn't actually manage to get past your ribcage. Dying is not about what looks worse, it's about actually hitting a vital area.
They were both slashed, albeithough. Only Meffrid wasn't coughing up blood, he just keels over because they need someone who spoke more than three lines at you to die in that scene but it can't be yshtola because plot armor lol. Yshtola's organs were 100% sliced open with that cut.
troony head canon, and isn’t media literate. A simple slash where Zenos doesn’t even move his legs vs le epic pass through your slow mo slash which one communicates to the audience which is more lethal
Then that's simply because Fordola was aiming to kill and Zenos was just fricking around, like always. He also beats up Yugiri like three times and still doesn't finish her off because "lol".
Only twice, and the second time it's Elidibus in his body.
Elidibus was larping as Zenos though
>be beating the absolute frick out of Elidizenos in that duty
>get Zoom called by Graha
>meet him later
>hahaha I bested you last time we met Warrior
Oh frick off you homosexual
That dude got hit by the slash as the enemy goes to the other side weeaboo shit. As in fordola passed through him to the other side. Zenos just slashed her without changing position.
Zenos is a billion times stronger than Fordola. He was level 70 when everyone else in the reach was 61 at most on either side.
Yes and he could have massacred everyone there but that’s not his motivation
>Considering Mefrid got lovetapped by $4 and dies but Yshtola gets gaped by Zenos and lives? Yeah it's pretty silly.
It's funny because Y'shtola's injjury was clearly far worse as she was super bloodied with a long gash down her cbest, where as Meffrid didn't even show a shred of blood loss. And they never bothered to TRY to heal him unlike Y'shtola.
Yoshi is clearly tired and wants to sabotage the game in any way he can.
He wouldn't waste so much money on duty support, the graphics overhaul, and 4 conventions on 4 different continents if that was the case
Not to mention that Dawntrail is just "every piece of content we've ever produced is returning"
>10 more years!
He's moronic, which is worse than sabotaging his own game.
>Makes deathgays seethe uncontrollably
That's why he is my favorite SB character.
He's a HW character, actually. That's why he's good.
What should I level next?
Desynthesis
No
My wife's continued superiority keeps leading to controversies I see.
> FFXIV is no longer a story about anything. It's now a product for people who want to see the characters waved around in front of their eyes
Thats what mmos are for. Are you telling me you play them for the story? Wtf. They’re for grinding cool outfits to impress your friends.
XIV would be EoS by now if it wasn't for the story.
i think yshtola would be cuter if she had buck teeth
That is a bold and slightly confusing opinion.
>He Queued?
Wtf is your team doing, bro?
Me on top as the dnc with bh5 wondering what the shit my team is doing
Let em cook, bro.
most people here play on crystal. they're just too chickenshit to admit it
Naturally. Roleplayers and modders too. That's why they hate them so much - it's the firsthand experience for how shitty crystal/rpers/modders are
rp is like raiding. there's bad rpers, hardcore rpers, poopsocking rpers, good ones, etc
i also find there's a big overlap between good raiders and good rpers
I just reached lvl 90, how do I progress towards the current best gear?
tombstone of comedy
Thanks a lot.
https://ffxiv.consolegameswiki.com/wiki/Level_90_Gear_Guide
Follow that, some of it might be out of date since moonward was the EW release first tomestone to get but now it's probably hunt marks/nuts/whatever the weird currency is.
Grind the sub tombstones, the ones you don't have a weekly cap on
buy crafted gear (you can just buy a bunch of chest pieces, doesn't have to actually match your class either)
Convert them together to augmented versions of whatever job you're actually playing at 90, which will be 10 ilvl short of the BIS and enough to get you through any necessary content
You can grind out the restricted tombstone gear as well, but you'll have to do savage raids to actually get it fully upgraded (the weapon upgrade mats are locked behind them). You can do hunts and the alliance raids to get the upgrade stuff for every other piece but it'll be 1-2 a week due to the 900 tome limit. In reality it's better to just make sure you have them capped before the next expac hits, as you'll be able to swap them 1 for 1 with poetics (all of the 90 gear will be swapped to require those as well when they stop being endgame gear)
hey you. yes you. you're bored right? queue up for Sigmascape 1.0 on crystal please. for the khloe
>Audience entirely composed of easily-entertained autistic manchildren who care more about doing text RP than any actual gameplay
>Surprised that the developers cater to them
>everything that went wrong in the entire FFXIV cosmology is because some butthole didn't get his moronic experiment peer reviewed
>the meteor that killed the dinosaurs caused WW1
I have to pay taxes because some Black folkAURUS decided to walk on land.
They did a good job with Hermes. He had very much the school-shooter vibe of an overly sensitive and ostensibly kind person whose idealism became bitter rancor and who rejected overtures of people trying to befriend him.
Yeh have fun.
>waaah you can't kill your evil creations
Ok thats fine we won't.
>no i dont want anyone in this facility doing it ever
Ok thats fine we'll put you in charge.
>NO I DONT WANT ANYONE IN THID CIVILIZATION DOING IT
Ok how about we give you a position as one of the 14 leaders of the world so you can make the changes you desire?
>im just going to make a bird that kills the universe
I deeply regret sitting through over 100 hrs of bullshit for this.
the weird thing is, he thinks he's the only one who cares about his creations when a bunch of the sidequests in Elpis show Ancients showing concern for their creations and concepts.
I think he wanted to create reforms in the Ancients views on their creations so they would be more compassionate, but then he got the news that all life in the universe is basically stone dead and snapped, he wasn't exactly being rational
It wasn't the creations specifically Hermes was mindbroken over. He wasn't a fricking PETA member. Hermes's problem was that, as a whole, Amaurotine society didn't place any value on life or death. Not for themselves, and not for their creations. His little cry about the pitbull was an extension about his freakout that nobody gave a shit that the former Fandaniel was going to kill himself. It wasn't about the fricking pitbull.
>when a bunch of the sidequests in Elpis show Ancients showing concern for their creations and concepts.
They don't in JP/FR/DE lol, the narrative only falls apart in EN because of Kate. The reasoning for the FATES are completely different.
"The narrative falls apart" is poor reading comprehension on this thread's part. Concern for a pet project or a pet idea isn't the same thing as Hermes caring about a much broader concept, mainly his mentor and teacher killing himself and everybody around him calling it a normal "retirement," and extending it to poorly designed murder machines
It might have been more compelling if even a single person had ever been shown dismissing his concerns. Sure, they don't up a change the world the second he states he doesn't like it, but everyone seems willing to at least listen.
Moreover is it so wrong for someone to just achieve such a level of self-actualization that they're just done? It doesn't seem to me like Fanandial 0.5 killing himself is a tragic event, it seems happy that he has basically completed everything he desired in life. In pandamonium people seemed pretty fricking sad when this person or that person was killed before their time. People try to use the last part of that final days dungeon where the entire society offs itself as a bad-end for the ancients. Whats so fricking bad about it?
>It might have been more compelling if even a single person had ever been shown dismissing his concerns.
You get exactly that with the little breakfast table scene.
>Moreover is it so wrong for someone to just achieve such a level of self-actualization that they're just done?
I'm not reading the rest of this, this is bad literary comprehension.
They listen to him and disagree while in the process of offering him pseudo king of the world.Thats not dismissing enough for me to feel bad for him.
Maybe if they had called him a stupid ugly homosexual who needs to shut the frick up then withdrawn his convocation invited and kicked him out of Elpis, I would appreciate it. Or maybe if they had just droned on about "literary comprehension" like petulant wienersuckers.
>It might have been more compelling if even a single person had ever been shown dismissing his concerns.
Like the whole scene with Hythlo and Emet treating him like he's a moronic little kid? When Hythlo drops the part about death being beautiful that Meteion echoes later?
>It doesn't seem to me like Fanandial 0.5 killing himself is a tragic event
That's the problem. It should be. It should be tragic. Death is absolutely necessary and a society of immortals does need to embrace it in order to continue the cycle of souls, but if they saw value in life and importance in death then they should be treating the process with respect. It should be tragic, it should be something heavy to consider, it shouldn't be treated like any other day. That entire outlook on life and death led to a society that wasn't prepared to deal with reality.
>People try to use the last part of that final days dungeon where the entire society offs itself as a bad-end for the ancients. Whats so fricking bad about it?
What's so bad about a planetwide suicide pact? Really?
No one is telling him that he isn't allowed to be sad. He can go and hang out with 0.5 and cry when he dies and mope around his grave for months or years or decades if he wants. No one is fricking holding it against him. They just disagree.
They're basically immortal demigods who are just trying to improve the world they live in. They live for millennia, longer if they feel like. Its normal to want to move on and if you feel you've completed your life's work, more the better. Why are they obligated to suffer for no reason? Why are they obligated to strive and feel tragedy when there is none? Because of some completely arbitrary expectation set by mortals? It reminds me of poor people who try to use hard-work as some arbitrary way to convince themselves they've one-upped the wealthy. Similarly, if the society is happy with what its done, has created a perfect beautiful Eden, and wants to recycle their aether as a whole. Great for them. Thats not sad or awful and telling me i'm obligated to disapprove is condescending bullshit.
they are telling him he's not allowed to call it death
>Why are they obligated to suffer for no reason? Why are they obligated to strive and feel tragedy when there is none?
Because this is wrong, there is suffering, there is tragedy, they just averted their eyes. The fact that they're uncomfortable referring to death as 'death' is the first proof of that. Pandaemonium is another, where Lahabrea's first reaction is to just shut the place down and kill everyone inside so they can all move on, because it's easier that way. When the Final Days hit they were unprepared to deal with tragedy for exactly that reason, because they were pretending tragedy doesn't real.
>Similarly, if the society is happy with what its done, has created a perfect beautiful Eden, and wants to recycle their aether as a whole. Great for them.
Did you actually look around the Plenty? They weren't happy at all, they were completely lost and directionless. And if you look beneath the floating islands, their planet is completely desolate. If they were happy then they wouldn't have contributed their fricked up dynamis to the Endsinger.
>Because this is wrong, there is suffering, there is tragedy, they just averted their eyes. The fact that they're uncomfortable referring to death as 'death' is the first proof of that. Pandaemonium is another, where Lahabrea's first reaction is to just shut the place down and kill everyone inside so they can all move on, because it's easier that way. When the Final Days hit they were unprepared to deal with tragedy for exactly that reason, because they were pretending tragedy doesn't real.
What do you actually, tangibly, want from them? A funeral? More crying?
I never got the feeling that death was an arbitrary event. Fanandiel returning to the aether was a big deal for the people he knew, it just wasn't a tragedy.
Moreover, the Ancients ability to make personal sacrifices in the face of potentially life threatening scenarios (pandemonium, Final Days), is more consistent with a society that is responsible and absolutely capable of accepting/handling death. The ancients solved the final days as far as they were concerned, and their plan would have absolutely fricking worked.
>Moreover, the Ancients ability to make personal sacrifices in the face of potentially life threatening scenarios (pandemonium, Final Days),
You do know they were all sacrificed under government order of the Convocation
Everything out of Emet-Selch's mouth was a fricking lie. Literally everything he said was only half true at best
>Moreover, the Ancients ability to make personal sacrifices in the face of potentially life threatening scenarios (pandemonium, Final Days), is more consistent with a society that is responsible and absolutely capable of accepting/handling death
You missed what happened afterwards? How they wanted to start reaping that precious cycle of souls to bring their friends back exactly because they couldn't accept that they had died?
I think it's a dumb to attribute how we view life to be the same as a race that is immortal and can literally visit the afterlife, with understanding of the mechanics of the afterlife and guaranteed reincarnation, along with knowing the preservation of memories of past lives can be revealed with a specific action.
Like it's fricking insane to act like death to them is "death". It's the only means to get a new perspective, and they only do it after they feel they've done all they want to see and accomplish with their current life.
If anything, that's significantly healthier for an immortal race to do than to cling desperately to their views forever and stagnate. It's even inherently welcoming of new perspectives. It's also natural with how the world works, there's no reason to think you need to artificially induce shorter lifespans and death on a species as some weird form of "suffering breeds character" (ignore all the Ancients who developed a strong character regardless of that, at least as many as there are Scions in the First).
Reincarnation isn't the same person waking up in new clothes. It's a completely new person, they only have a recycled soul at their core. Some memories are retained, some personality traits are retained, but it's not the same person at all.
>If anything, that's significantly healthier for an immortal race to do than to cling desperately to their views forever and stagnate.
Yes, like I said a race of immortals needs to embrace death as part of their existence to continue the cycle of souls. But that means embracing DEATH. Not inventing a dishonest cope about what death is, and not treating it like it's a casual every day activity that you shouldn't care about. They failed to treat death with the proper respect and that's what fricked them in the end.
But they know they don't "die". They reincarnate at their time of choosing, with their memories able to be preserved and inherited should they choose to do so.
Again, they can physically walk into the afterlife and interact with it if they want. You're approaching this without viewing it in the context it's in, just the context you're personally familiar with, which would be about as helpful as stoning someone for witchcraft because they had a smartphone.
anybody else can walk into the afterlife too if they drill down far enough
the context as presented by the story is the ancients cannot cope with the thought of death for several reasons and it's spelled out multiple times to the point there's little room for glorification of the ancients or alternative interpretation on the viewer's part
Yes, and its very poor writing that they went through all the trouble to create this elaborate world with completely different context and philosophical repercussions just to arbitrarily forced our stilted world-view on them and label them weak because of it. Its one of the three biggest writing mistakes of the entire game, right behind making time travel core to the narrative.
>just to arbitrartily forced our stilted world-view on them
tl;dr my headcanons for the ancients were directly proven wrong and they weren't so glorious and i'm never gonna be able to RETVRN like varis said we would
I'm not obligated to find the writer's arguments compelling. You may notice I am free to disagree, but I am not nuking this thread with random images of horse porn to get it permanently deleted, despite being rudely dismissed.
Nobody's impressed by this show of restraint
>t. vaush
Exactly. Which is exactly how I feel about Fandaniel and the giant fit he throws for no reason.
My dude, the ancients cannot cope with their world rendered uninhabitable by an unknowable space phenomena.
The moral of the story constantly falls flat on it's face because it claims the Ancients are a monolith, but show us nothing but examples that they aren't. And not just singular people that go against the grain, like for Venat's plan to work at all she had an entire faction of Ancients agreeing with her, which obviously shows that condemning the entire race as a lost cause is straight up hypocritical because the sundered had just as many detractors working against the Scions and people as a whole. Like, you shouldn't embrace nihilism because you can find meaning in life now, but also this race needs to all die because some of them want to take a constructive action when told not to but not given a reason as to why not. It's stupid.
way to ignore the part that happened after they restored their world, the inability to accept not having been in control of the apocalypse, which drives the entire game's plot
this is not a productive conversation at all and i am stopping here
They weren't accepting it because they could quite literally do something about it, were told not to, but weren't told why they shouldn't.
It's like if someone loses their house from a forest fire and some random person says don't rebuild your house and won't say why. The sundered absolutely wouldn't listen to that either.
>be me
>emet selch is my friend and gives me a soulstone telling me I was some ancient
>all of my past memories come back
>I realize that I'm only 3/5ths of a person
>when I die instead of reincarnating immediately I just wait until my other sundered selves also die and suck them up like I'm fricking eating them
>get all of my shitty pieces and become whole
>I am now unsundered
>reincarnate finally
>WAIT NO YOU CANT DO THAT BECAUSE...REASONS
>WAIT NO YOU CANT DO THAT BECAUSE...REASONS
do you doubt their ability to write several paragraphs worth of magical jargon to convince you of their plot device?
well u cant do that because your shards are on other shards
So, what, you do all this and you're unsundered. Nothing really changes when you reincarnate on the other end except you have a higher aether capacity, because you're still not an Ancient, 12,000 years of evolution have taken place since they were forced down to mortal levels. G'raha has another shard to his name that none of the other Scions do because he lived through a rejoining as the Exarch, and it does literally nothing for him, it hasn't come up since he came over after 5.3 because it's not relevant and it doesn't confer any benefits. Ran'jit was exactly one shard as a denizen of the First and he was stronger than the Scions, but not the WoL.
I don't get the wank towards becoming unsundered again, it doesn't make any cosmological or aetherial sense. It's just parroting Varis and the game takes pains to tell you Varis was a fricking moron who was juiced up on his own Garlean propaganda to the point it was a useful stand-in for faith in becoming a primal from his son playing around with his corpse.
so, when they remove the no rez debuff in BA, will it suddenly become trash?
It's been trash since SHB. only kinda hard thing is Ozma and all you gotta do is listen to callouts.
so i actually knuckled down and finished sildah subterrane. figured out 11 of 12 endings myself, the last one i had to look up was touching all the poofy flowers. 8/10, probably won't go back but it was fun. it also let me practice a few class rotations that i had neglected.
it does have a niche i feel, in that its basically a fast dungeon you can do by yourself, my fastest clear time was 18 minutes, and its combat driven gil acquisition in its rewards with then noir set. i feel that the game does need more of that sort of thing. as for ALL dungeon design being like this, i don't think its a good idea as well, you know what happens. playerbase optimizes the fun out of things, etc.
i had completely ignored mount rokkon, but now i'll be doing it when i have an afternoon to kill. good stuff, 8/10, may use it to practice combat classes in the future
is there anyone who can defeat him?
2chan
I don't care about any of the characters, I skip all the dialogue, I shit talk random people, I ignore my "clan" and I just kill shit.
scholar has two dots in variant, and is therefore 'more engaging' than summoner is.
a fisher price toy is more engaging than SMN
That image hurts
you aren't allowed to be sad about your missing buttons, you WILL use Biolysis and be happy
bring back kaiten
Half of these skills either came back or were nothingburgers to begin with.
Losing the ability to target your fairy for deply tactics shenanigans felt worse.
SCH was already gimped on SB.
the game isn't dying.
source: it came to me in a dream
having just recently subbed and played through the entire msq i feel confident saying that OP is a tremendous homosexual and they establish almost immediately that the main character is an unstoppable god among mere mortals. i never once felt like anything was in peril. ive only ever been annoyed by npcs lacking faith or fear of the warrior of light
>they establish almost immediately that the main character is an unstoppable god among mere mortals.
Based speedreader. You were simply someone with the echo who rose to the occasion, every major fight gives you a mcguffin or plot convenience.
>Ultima and Lahabrea
Hydaelyn intervenes
>Primals
You get some assistance like the device in Leviathan
>Thordan
Estinien gives you some of the left eye, while Thordan had to split the right eye between him ans 12 other homies
>Nidhogg
Hraesvalgr gives you his eye
>Shinryu
Zenos was weakened from your fight in the dungeon
>Tsukuyomi
She wasn't trying to kill you
>Hades
From here on it's just straight up canon seven other homies help you out, but also you were super juiced on light aether
>Elidibus
7 other homies of light, crystal tower sealed him away
>Zodiark
Party members, incomplete, wasn't trying
>Hydaelyn
Party members/trusts, wasn't really trying, power had waned after all this time
>Endsinger
Party members, juiced on dynamis
>Zenos
Juiced on dynamis
>fiends, golbez, zeromus
Party members
>Estinien gives you some of the left eye, while Thordan had to split the right eye between him ans 12 other homies
This is incorrect. You don't get any power from the left eye, and the right eye isn't shared because KotR is in fact one single primal. WoL won an impossible battle fueled by pure rage (dynamis).
>Zenos was weakened from your fight in the dungeon
His body was Shinryu, that's irrelevant. But you went into the battle with friends even though you canonically came out alone.
>you don't get any power from the left eye
anon please
If you play DRG you do but that's part of your normal power set.
It wasn't impossible, Heaven's Ward and Thordan were chumps. Bro got all high and mighty because he got a pocket white auracite, but he's still a feeble old man in armor surrounded by jobbers you already plowed through in the Vault.
When you fight him he's fueled by the right eye and an entire unsundered Ancient, that's a pretty significant power boost, one that's extended to all the other knights too because they're all one primal.
>an entire unsundered Ancient,
*an incredibly drained Lahabrea who's been beaten by you several times already at that point
He didn't absorb Lahabreas aether in that way, he was just imprisoned in Absalon. Also you had just beaten Nidhogg with one eye, technically still two, not long before.
>He didn't absorb Lahabreas aether in that way
He did, it was the exact same thing we saw Leviathan do to the Sahagin priest. When are you going to drop the cope theory about him living inside the eye?
>Zodiark
Well no, Zodiark/Funny Danny absolutely was trying. He had that "If I win, I just use Zodiark's power to reap chaos in the star until someone kills me which will speed up the Final Days, if I lose, the Final Days start anyway" strategy. It was a win/win situation for him, so he had no real reason to hold back.
yes exactly. after the third or fourth time that i killed some heretofore thought unstoppable god entity by being the living embodiment of deus ex machina i stopped worrying about whether or not ill be able to kill the bad guys and started getting annoyed that everyone is worried at all. atleast by SHB the npcs are sucking my wiener enough to feel like im getting due credit.
the only time i felt even an iota of peril was just before heavensward when everyone ive been saving for the past hundred hours all dropped to single digit IQ and blamed me for some moronic bullshit and my character was too much of a goody-two-shoes to squish the heads off of the four no-name guards they sent to "arrest" me.
will the 3.0 AF set for DRK get updated textures for DT? or am I gonna be waiting?
I think they said they're gonna update the previous gear progressively starting from the extremes? So first ARR and EW, then HW and ShB, and finally SB.
Probably, since they released an upgraded version as a pvp reward.
whats the point of having a massive quarantine zone to test new creations if the dude in charge is just going to send untested creations into outer space anyways?
elpis is for things that are going to stay on the planet and become endemic life
meteion was never going to become endemic life
>we test the ones that are supposed to be just regular wildlife and shit
>but the weird experimental creatures who operate using powers beyond our understanding? we don't test those have fun bro lol
the space pirates from metroid make are better scientists than those morons.
Elpis didn't have tubes, ok? That was an Allagan invention.
so since we're talking about worlo now, should i do mage, priest or rogue for SoD?
You should hit the Unsubscribe spec and download a private server client since SoD is the most glaring admission that WoW's dev staff don't know what they're doing in a long time.
i did priest btw. gnomer is a lot harder than BFD
Why is the Zero handshake scene just so funny to me? There's something about the way it's framed that cracks me up.
Yshtola not seeming to care. and the nixie just floating there being a nixie
Yeah it's definitely gotta be Y'shtola and her nixie being like
>Eh, that's neat I guess.
>bruh i am literally
>i am literally just standing here
>...WoL I don't wanna ruin an emotional moment but now that I've found out everything there is to know about the Thirteenth, I'm really kinda getting bored and my feet hurt. Can we go back home?
it's y'shtola and the nixie staring blankly in the background that do it for me
reminder that the mere sight of these kindly blue elephants is enough to send steppeBlack folk into fits of panic and hyperventilation
nooo i played an RPG and i knew i was gonna win at the end there's no danger no peril no stakes how can anybody stand this shit do not redeem the frial trial
Yeah like how I knew I was gonna beat the final boss in FFVII and that meant Aerith didn't die and Holy didn't threaten to wipe out mankind in the final cutscene.
Or like how I knew I was gonna beat the final boss in FFIX and that meant Vivi's short lifespan was handwaved at the last second and the Iifa Tree didn't kick into overdrive and doom the entire planet right before the credits rolled.
alright, we'll put that one in the maybe category.
how's this theory: neither Zero, Golbez or Durante, or Cylva, or Unukalhai are the 13th's shard of Azem and its just a plot device that people cling to for some reason
What's the best theory on why they hid Golbez's face? They didn't need to knock his helmet off in the first place so there's some significance there.
They also had no issue showing Ardbert's face obviously.
It was pretty clearly the OG golbez.
The framing of the story makes it pretty obvious it was Golbez and I thought that was some of the only good writing in post-EW because it was obvious enough that they didn't feel the need to spell it out for you.
And then EE3 came out.
EE3 was so trash dude
>how's this theory: neither Zero, Golbez or Durante, or Cylva, or Unukalhai are the 13th's shard of Azem and its just a plot device that people cling to for some reason
This one has the most support of the Encyclopedia Eorzea vol. 3 which supposes that Reaper avatars are always the Void shard of their Reaper counterpart, but leaves the wiggle-room necessary for it not to be. If the in-universe theory that it's a shard rejoining situation holds water then Azem's shard is with you the very second you pick up Reaper.
If that one is proven wrong in the long run though I think it would be Zero. She's got the Azem Autism, she's got the capability for more than one job, she's very reactive to Light, Hydaelyn's specific crystal helped her out, she's a burgeoning hero, she traces Cecil's path through FF4, Zenos specifically wanted her as his avatar and had to brainwash her to do it.
Thinking about it, them directly referencing any other FF characters always has to operate under this
By all means Y'shtola should know Golbez, shit, I am pretty sure where was a cutscene of her speaking with him about their siblings at some point in opera Omnia, seeing that Golbez was more or less on the good side in that one after the first two chapters.
She didn't keep all her memories of Dissidia. She only had some vague idea that the Kefka minion was familiar somehow.
how do we make overworld fates better? and if you say, 'turn them into CEs', doesn't that get rid of one of the appeals of overworld content?
Back in the day south shroud and northern thanalan were the happening spots because the MSQ didn't give enough xp to get all the way through and FATE's were the best leveling method.
All they'd have to do to revive fates is nerf MSQ xp and un-nerf FATE xp
Tfw im playing ShB happy that finally get a field trip with the whole scion party
keep that close anon everybody in this thread is sucking literal corn-fields full of wieners
what tribe is Ogul from
Khatayin
Why was the valentines even to short this time?
Square is in shambles and ffxiv is dead
Have you not seen the earning reports? Square is fricking barely floating by. XVI did shit performance wise and XIV lost subs to the extent that they had to tell shareholders about it.
XVI did okay, but the problem is that they wanted it to do much more than okay. They didn't design a game specifically to draw new, younger players into the series only for it to barely make its budget back. SE's major problem is that their mobile business won't stop shrinking and it's their biggest revenue pillar.
In the intricate tapestry of digital storytelling, Final Fantasy 14 stands as a monument to ambition and craftsmanship. Yet, akin to a beautifully adorned but ultimately hollow vessel, it falls short in crucial aspects. The game's combat, alas, resembles the slow drip of a leaking faucet rather than the thunderous crescendo of a symphony. Its repetitiveness and lack of innovation render it a tedious chore rather than an exhilarating engagement.
And then there's the storyline—a labyrinthine odyssey that stretches on like an endless desert horizon. While some may find solace in its depth and complexity, others may struggle to navigate its convoluted narrative arcs. One can't help but feel like a weary traveler lost in the sands of time, longing for a reprieve from the relentless march of exposition.
But perhaps therein lies the enigma of Final Fantasy 14. Like the elusive specter of Golbez, clad in armor wrought from the fabric of dreams, it beckons to us with promises of grandeur and transcendence. In its depths, buried beneath layers of monotony and verbosity, lies the potential for true enlightenment. Or perhaps I've simply succumbed to the seductive embrace of delirium, lost in a trance of my own making. Golbez kate armor trance, indeed.
>Trancers
>Venatschizo
>Lalagays
>Lorebook spammer
>Eceleb shitters
>Golbez armor gibberish spammer
Endwalker has been a disastrous expansion for XIV threads.
I volunteer to die to save the story. Remember what I gave for you all.
*dies*
I think it is inevitable that there will be another mindwipe/timewipe arc where everyone forgets who the warrior of light is.
you mean like us going to a new continent where very, very few people have heard of us?
An omen, perhaps. A foreshock. Testing the waters, even.
They are going to wake up Lavos and make A Realm Reborn again
removing memory of the WoL is literarily useless for a whole host of reasons
Correct. Which is why it will be everyone else.
again literarily useless for a whole host of reasons
go away
I breathed this new reality into existence and you are going to have to suffer with it bro. Did you learn nothing?
sex with Margaret
Story wise I only had fun with ARR and HW. After that it went full bullshit. Stormblood was the common mediocre stuff like in trpgs. And ShB/EW was like all the boring manga and anime with "omg someone wants to end everything and everyone paired with muh ancient race".
I miss the whole adventure guild vibe.
>"My dad just died..."
>who cares man? he was past his prime so what's the big deal?
>"My dad just died..."
>SHUT THE FRICK UP YOU UNGRATEFUL LITTLE TURD HE "RETIRED"
Ancients gave us bird dicky so they're okay in my book
Then they tried to end existence.
Haha, that's our Meteion!
>I'm going to send a bunch of hypersensitive children who can communicate via telepathy to traverse the darkness of space and ask people on different worlds what makes life worth living
>I can't think of a SINGLE way that this can go wrong
emet deserves a hard flick on the tip of his wiener for his insolence. how dare he defy my will
The moral of Endwalker is you need to invent vidya for a utopia to work.
As a reaper did I just make a deal with satan? I'm iffy on the terms of my contract.
you partnered up with a voidsent and he'll help you fight for as long as you keep supplying him with aether from things you've killed or beaten up
Oh so I'm just helping a buddy on a different server level up. That's no biggy. I was starting to think I did something really stupid.
nah there's never going to be a job that gives you an objective downside to taking it that isn't just a narrative device for job quests, dark knight and reaper both have you frick around with dark magic. black mage even has you expressly ignore the whole "void magic" part of the job's history in favor of fire/lightning/ice magic with exactly two dark spells
Well pictomancer canonically will give your character AIDs but these days theres an argument to be had about whether that is an objective downside
we're insanely close to curing AIDS and it's a very manageable illness these days, "gay cancer" baby-boomers are shook
so was emet lol he oversaw the dissolution and sucking up of 7 dimensions and was working on the 8th
>mmorpg storytelling crippling itself by being an mmorpg
imagine my shock
One thing I never see mentioned in Endwalker plot discussion is the fact that the WoL can outright say Emet-Selch was justified at the end of the Omega quest. It's strange how this is ignored because you always get people seething hard over the plot being discussed because reeee headcanon twitter screenshots when the writers themselves want you to draw your own conclusions.
>They give me 4 different options
>None of them is Elidibus
It's shit.
Elidibus objectively never did anything wrong. He was a primal not in control of his own desires ever since he got summoned into Zodiark.
anon thats a lot of words when you can just say "I'm a homosexual" to convey the same thing
omega also disagrees with you and thinks all conversational branches are completely insane in differing ways last i recall. i think he puts additional scorn on you for choosing hermes or emet-selch but it's been so long since i did those quests i don't remember the specifics
yeah well it was a murder bot doing cell games while holding guns to peoples heads
DT would be a million times better if the WoL and Y'shtola teamed up together instead of the annoying brat twins.
I hope Y'shtola will be the one chewing out the rest of the moronic cast (except Estinien) for getting involved with a succession crisis when they put on a big show of "disbanding" the scions so they don't get involved with politics.
I can't wait to pick every single "But, this is an election in a foreign country, I shouldn't be interfering..." dialogue option throughout the expansion while getting railroaded the entire time into helping anyway until she (or whoever) scolds us for participating and all I can say in my defense is that I'm weak to peer pressure.
Teaming up with her and Estinien + local guide is the best setup. 6.1 was so good.
Why is Estinien allowed to be cooler than me?
The funniest thing in the world is just how many times they just don't care about the exact same message they applied to Ancients applying the the sundered people.
Everyone draws parallels in Dead Ends between the Ancients and World of Plenty people, but how are the Sundered people any different from the 2nd one of war? Like that's basically what happened in G'raha's failed timeline, there's no guarantee it doesn't happen to them even faster than the Ancients would end up Ra-La-ing themselves.
Or how the Ancients can't accept loss because they used their magic to try to get back the sacrifices used to stave off Meteion, but then WoL uses Ancients' magic to bring back all the Scions that sacrificed themselves to stave off Meteion.
NONE OF THE DEAD ENDS WORLDS HAD SHADOW WIZARDS GASSING THE POPULATION FROM THE BACKGROUND
THE HYDAELYN CRYSTAL IS NOT A HANDWAVING OF "REAL CONSEQUENCES" AND YOU ARE A FRICKING IDIOT IF YOU BELIEVE IT WAS
The advantage the sundered have is that they're not a monoculture. Allag reached the same point as the Ancients and the Nibirun too, and even if Hermes hadn't reincarnated to frick them back into the stone age, if they had collectively killed themselves it wouldn't have touched the Meracydians or people living in the New World or even the outskirts of their own empire as shown by the Onishishu fleeing to Othard where the imperial collapse was relatively minor. The second world is what would happen if the Garleans won and instituted their homosexual monoculture.
diversity is our strength chuds
unironically yes
the game's argument is globohomosexual bad
you'd think /misc/ types would be on-board for that but instead they started cum tributing to pictures of varis
they think its a troony game because hildebrand gets called a disgusting obnoxious pervert for wearing a dress.
Yes but actual diversity which is respected and maintained and not globohomosexual """""diversity""""" that just tries to make every nation the same.
>still no Meteion glam
>still no Yotsuyu glam
>no Tenzen glamour you can pair with a kabuto for FFXI's SAM AF it's rigged all races already, so it was clearly thought of
>no accompanying Phoenix Blade
>no Zero glamour or scythe
>no Ran'jit glamour or scythe
Zero glam will 100% be appearing on the cash shop eventually.
The cash shop is getting out of hand but if you point this out in the usual circles they sperg out at you.
that isn't "out of hand" at all
the cash shop is one of the game's oldest points of concern trolling
Uh huh.
Just ignore the fact that in-game glams get worse while cash-shop glams have consistently higher quality.
>cash-shop glams have consistently higher quality.
Well why wouldnt they? People are double and triple dipping instead of paying a sub that's the equivalent of a cheap meal.
>concern trolling
>a valid point in a game that adds piss poor content updates is concern trolling
And let me guess noting that even Square noticed a massive dip in MMO subs during the financial report is doom posting right?
i'd be more offended by the cash shop if there were anything good in it
Wow, a new one for the filter! And who says you don't get bothered when people block you out, eh? Sure proved them wrong!
>paid MMO
>cash shop
Im surprised anyone defends this shit. KMMOs have horrible cash shops but they're f2p traps
The game doesn't tell you the cash-shop even exists outside of the launcher and a right-click inn bed interaction. Nothing in the cash shop serves a gameplay purpose that isn't also a Fanfest mount or a story-level skip. It's all cosmetics, let it go
It's all cosmetics that could be earned in the game by doing content. have a nice day.
>It's all cosmetics that could be earned in the game by doing content. have a nice day.
all me btw
>I have not argument and I must falseflag
Cash Shop trannies....
also all me btw
verification not required
You already gave up any pretense of having a point when you jak'd.
Unsurprising you can't make an argument with how busy you are sucking wiener
>launcher tells you it exists
>square emails your associated email with cash shop updates
>cosmetic content that could be dungeon, maps, raids and PvP rewards or more craft recipes for Crafters
>nooooo they're not gameplay focused though
Imagine being a bootlicker
>Nothing in the cash shop serves a gameplay purpose
This is such a pathetic cope. Fricking pathetic. Cosmetics are the endgame of MMOs. No one cares if you are wearing a super badass ring that doesn't show up on your character model. Its the big fancy weapons and cool armor that gets people to want to achieve things in the end game. Not stats. IE COSMETICS
Remember to watch out for that crazy guy Fandaniel.
cute and wholesome
God I wish for partner emotes.
>ballroom dance using inverse-kinematics to figure out where the hell characters should be looking at eachother from and where their hands should be to iron out the tall/small differences
>piggyback ride "mount" for roegadyns and hrothgars to smaller races
>WAR moron strength gives access to the piggyback mount regardless of race, comedy ensues mounting a lalafell WAR as a roegadyn
It's something they should be able to do now judging from the implementation of fashion accessories.
>February
>Still no preorders
If they don't open the preorders next month, the game isn't coming until August.
It will be out in very late summer, they still have tot work on port XVI to PC and make the two DLC's for it.
Giving the director of an MMO the job on making another game at the same time while also stealing a number of the devs was such a fricking stupid move on squares part.
XVI team =/= XIV team
6.57 release date suggests first week of July release date, second week at absolute latest, last week of June at absolute earliest
>they still have tot work on port XVI to PC and make the two DLC's for it.
The XVI team already disbanded about a month ago. Development is finished, they're just sitting on the releases.
It's either July 2 or 9.
Release date announcement, preorders, CE details and benchmark in PLL 80 the week before 6.5.8 drops on March 12.
The exact same schedule as between 5.5.5 and Endwalker launch.
Solution 9 was actually the last straw for me. Until this point we've always had sort of an "upper limit" to technology on the Source and that was the Allagans. Suddenly there's this unknown super high tech cyberpunk city that nobody knows about.
>there is stuff that happens in the new world that i didn't know about
>i'm gonna kill myself
>new world
>already regularly trades with Sharlayan and whoever else
>fully settled by various people from around the world
Yeah great... real frontier that.
sharlayan is divorced from the rest of eorzea by choice, mamool ja from the new world only started popping up as mercenaries in eorzea very very recently
They're survivors from the Twelfth shard (Lightning calamity, lightning element is associated with industry) who have been hiding behind an Esthar camouflage curtain.
So they did nothing during The Final Days. I'm starting to think the Final Days thing was a mistake honestly.
In only a few month's time I will genuinely be out of content for this game. I've got a complete fishing log - including ocean fishing, spear fishing, and 6.55 big fish. Pentalegend (even did tea on every job), necro/lone/once, all blu tiers done, bozja/eureka done, mahjong master, etc. Literally the only things left will be the moronic timegated grinds like levequests and custom delivery achievements.
Soon I rest.
Wish we could get the fricking Benchmark.
next month most likely
I'm sort of in limbo regarding the graphics update so I just wanna see where I am exactly and what I need to do.
i'm not excited by pre-endwalker gear seeming to only get a retexture at absolute best, a lot of ARR and HW era gear it's not the texturing that's the problem it's the polycount. gae bolg is especially heinous and that one's bizarre to have its conical, pixelated point when the rest of the relics from the same tier still look good
definitely a watch and wait thing, at absolute worst for me i'll just keep using shadowbringers-and-on gear
if you honestly are upset about ffxiv cashshop, you have never played any other mmo before
ZIV's cash-shop is probably the least offensive I've ever had to deal with in an MMO, it's more annoying to actually order something through it than it is to completely ignore it. I'll load Ktisis or something if I want to see a cash-shop outfit on my character.
>unironic cash shop defenders in a paid MMO with a monthly subscription
Fricking grim.
so since the thread is past the limit, here's your sloppa for the thread. presenting exactly 1 unusually high quality lala foot
>Warframe's cash shop is friendlier than fricking XIV's cash shop
How in the frick? Can you even earn the cash shop items by farming in XIV?
the cash shop discord has entered the thread
No one who likes the ancients cared about 1.0/ARR lore and setting
there wasn't a lot worth caring about at that point of the game
I rest my case
>play ffxiv almost everyday
>EW drops
>Content draught happens
>Go play WoW with some FC mates
>Literally having more fun in every way
>Gameplay is simply just better
>Don't feel like playing DT anymore
>Thinking if I should get rid of my all my gil
I just wish FFXIV netcode was even remotely as good as WoW.
i will admit. pingponging Prayer of Mending around on SoD is pretty fun
you can find the high quality content on the cocoli shop
A safe, non-answer from the thread moron. Truly setting the Ganker standard. Feel honored you get any replies at all.
>1 minute apart
lol
>Get rid of Gil
Gil is worthless
>I just wish FFXIV netcode was even remotely as good as WoW.
Which is funny because it used to be much better too at large scale content, they fricked it when they implemented a better anticheat and dynamic phasing in WoD
That's what every ongoing product with a fandom becomes.
The status quo can't change drastically and risk losing consumers.
Yoshi should wrap it up next expansion and end it all with another big climactic event like with 1.0
The theme of the story could be that all good things must eventually come to an end. The pain that meteion had wanted to escape by ending everything finally comes to roost, and everyone must face the fact that reality can be cruel and that sometimes you must accept your powerlessness in life.
so guys, did you guys apply a ridiculous amount of reductionism to the story of a video game to then call it boring and uninteresting today?
I spent today's thread trying to disagree with the objectively correct interpretation of Endwalker's morals and events which are presented without any real ambiguity. I'm gonna keep doing it all the way into Dawntrail long past the point that even I'm tired of my own arguments.
Hi lalagay you forgot your avatar
The lead-in to Dawntrail is probably the worst I've ever experienced. It generated anti-hype for me since we're going to be stuck with the le random happy strong moron the whole way.
STOP TALKING ABOUT THE FRICKING STORY
NOW!!!!!!!
STOP IT!!!!!!!!
YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO TALK ABOUT E-CELEBS AND THREAD PERSONALITIES NOT THE FRICKING STORY YOU SHITPOSTING TRANCERS
Remember, "I don't think it's that bad" is a blind devotion to a company and you are a slovenly subhuman for not agreeing with me. I am very serious about this.
Remember, apathy doesn't make you seem intelligent.
Faux apathetic lowercase Black person, pls.
That copypasta cut pretty deep, huh?
everybody is mad but me: a child's guide to being an epic shitposter
You're so mad you're bringing it up unprompted.
everybody else one person
me never one person
>n-no that was totally another person i-i'm just jumping into this conversation at page 10 because uhhh...
Embarrassing, and you lapsed back into the faux apathetic lowercase posting too.
I, too, will post now.
Everyone liked the First because it didn't have lalas, until they finally added them and ruined everything
>Everyone liked the First because it didn't have lalas, until I spent more than 5 minutes in Shadowbringers and learned it did have lalas
we learned that there were lalas in SHB before SHB even came out. it was the stated reason they were changing beast tribe quests to tribal quests
Literally level 79 content
If I could ask for one thing for april fools this year it would be for posting ids to randomly appear on all boards. Just to see how schizophrenic some of you look with your sockpuppet meta.
could get some mileage out of that, it would make it significantly harder for schizos and the morons that respond to them to operate
please post your thoughts about golbez armor kate meta in 2 minutes.
i'm not. decided i don't want to do the 25-40 grind. the nerfs to my priest suck and questing areas are going to be jampacked for several weeks