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  1. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >shill up

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Black person

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Black person

      I'm 99% sure this is politically motivated, a lot of game journos seething because muh Black folk aren't in the game

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        I'm perfectly fine and happy with the color palette of the game.
        My issue is that for a character-action game, this title is incredibly dour and lifeless on the story-front for 90% of its run time.
        Like, I'm having MGS4 flashbacks to how that game's actual gameplay could be fun but then you're fricking flung into 30 minutes of straight cutscenes

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Racist here, this is the first FF i bought since 12 because it wasn't filled with forced diversity and seemed like the combat might be alright but after playing it a couple hours i was bored as frick and went back to playing Rogue Legacy 2 instead.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          At least you didn't buy a non-pro PS5 for this right anon?

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        You can literally flip this argument around and say Ganker supports the game for the same stupid politically obsessed reasons.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        I'm racist and I think this game looks like shit.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >can't even get the biggest online shill to like it
      deary me, how bad is it

  2. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    haven't played it yet but I'm guessing the actual primary complaint here is "noooo there's not enough Black folk"

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      that's literally it. the entire video is him whining about the lack of diversity and trans representation.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        literally it isnt. this review is the only level headed review about this game on the internet so far

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          >gave halo infinite 10/10
          >gave cyberpunk 10/10
          every review can be level headed if it aligns with your opinion

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            >implying shillup even gives scores
            Not only did he not give either of those games those scores, he doesn't give scores at all

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        you're being transparent as frick, discordtrany

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          hot

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        I don't know what's more sad, the fact that you can spew such a bold-faced lie, or the fact that anons here are stupid enough to believe you.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Zelda has no Black folk. Super Mario RPG and Wonder have no Black folk either. What now?

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      that's literally it. the entire video is him whining about the lack of diversity and trans representation.

      mostly it's b***hing about the linearity, departure from traditional gameplay, the chore-like side quests and the lack of party members. Basically it's Devil May Cry (4 kids) and trad weaboo's are losing their shit. Some of the criticisms are legitimate but mostly it sounds like him being a little b***h

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        literally it isnt. this review is the only level headed review about this game on the internet so far

        Literally shillup shills kek

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        >departure from traditional gameplay
        He's docking points from FF11?

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          [...]
          mostly it's b***hing about the linearity, departure from traditional gameplay, the chore-like side quests and the lack of party members. Basically it's Devil May Cry (4 kids) and trad weaboo's are losing their shit. Some of the criticisms are legitimate but mostly it sounds like him being a little b***h

          What even is "traditional" gameplay. Every game generally has massive shifts in systems, with you going from turn based to ATB back to turn based to then some RTwP shit with FF12.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            >What even is "traditional" gameplay.
            I'd expect a Final Fantasy game to at least have a modicum of RPG elements. Even DMC was more of an RPG than this.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Games a literal hallway
      >The RPG side of its a joke
      >Combats super shallow
      >Story is dry
      >Absurd amount of padding and MMO fetch quests
      He said its like if someone made a single player FF14.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        >He said its like if someone made a single player FF14.
        Is it not already?

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        We already have FFXII

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        The combat is super shallow but also impressive?

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          >MMO troony plays his first devil may cry clone.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            The image in the OP describes the combat as impressive, I thought that's what we were talking about.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          He said that its easy so there's no point in going deeper

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      wonder how nigs are homeless when they liv in your head rent free

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      I have played it and everything he says is accurate. The game sucks and is worse than XV and XIII.

  3. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    This is the Black person that gave Nu-GOW glowing reviews, you'll forgive me if I don't take any opinion of his seriously.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      FF16 is even more of a movie game than nu-GoW, hilariously.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        first off ff16 has unfathomably better writing and cutscenes, and also has infinitely better gamepaly.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          lel

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        What the frick are you talking about. Have you played either of these games?

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah. In FF16 there are like 45+ minute long stretches where you don't even use a controller lmao.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        FF16 somehow took over 2018 and Ragnaroks missing spectacle. When you go from God of War 3 to the new ones, there is a massive lack of holy shit scale that FF16 has in spades.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          you can only do "transforms into ifrit" so many times before it gets old

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        >God of Backseating
        kek

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          backseating is still better than having literal movies where you set the controller down for hours at a time lmao

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      FF16 is even more of a movie game than nu-GoW, hilariously.

      He said it was better than DMC and Bayo lmao

  4. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    What final fantasy games have people been playing? Because I mostly remember "RPG elements" being what passive stat boosts you equip on characters and side quests being random shit that lead to maybe one extra dungeon, an extra boss or an additional summon after you gathered random garbage for 80% of the game.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Ff3, 5, 7, 8, 9, 10, and 12 all had character progression systems where build choice could be meaningful.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Even FFXIII and XV have this, because of XIII's party combinations/role system (basically the Jobs system) and XV's weapon skills/controlling party members

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Im playing the game
      Its 100% not an RPG any more than DMC is.
      The accessories are a fricking joke.

      The weapon upgrades do nothing and are mostly locked with the story so you "progress" at a linear rate so nothing ever feels hard.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      X was a corridor. XII had the most similar areas to XVI too. RPG elements is becoming a tiresome, meme argument at this point. Why do you review a game that has been announced to be action-orientated for years and get surprised when it isn't your cup of tea. Why do they send the worst possible kind of players to review these games. This isn't a rug pull or a surprise, it's just b***hing for the sake of b***hing, not to mention the FF franchise has always pivoted more and more towards Action to begin with.

      These "longtime FF fan here" larpers need to frick off already and stop listing random FF titles in their personal bio like they remember anything from those games.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        >tiresome
        Because you resort to mental gymnastics to defend your shit opinion
        >meme
        Dismissive israeli way to try dismiss widely held opinion
        >old fans are larpers
        Yer more desperate israeli handwaving. Make yourself less obvious Moshe. You dun fricked up and you lost.
        >frick off
        After you climb into the oven

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          >no arguments
          >just buzzwords
          I'm glad you came to the realization that you're a pissing troony who can't control their own behavior. You stick a spoon into an electrical outlet and you're surprised you get shocked. Don't buy a game that's been advertised as an action game for years, and expect FF4. Clean the gash in your pants and frick off already, you whining b***hes.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            I'm not surprised and I'm not buying it. You're the gay israelite gobbling up the discharge from game series that has just changed it's gender. If you're not a israelite then you are quite literally the reason things get worse by passively slurping these massive shits down your fat throat instead of gatekeeping.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            >and expect FF4.
            NTA, but it the ff14 influence isn't subtle.

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              anyone who says the combat is shallow probably isn't worth listening to.

              Well yeah Witcher 3 is much more of an RPG than XVI

              Seems like he shouldn't have been reviewing things he automatically doesn't like then. Then again, he gave cyberpunk a 10/10 so maybe he's just moronic.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >anyone who says the combat is shallow probably isn't worth listening to
                aahahahahahahaha

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Sorry bro, your favorite game reviewer is trash because the combo players and DMC vets have legitimately great things to say about the combat system.

                You can call the overall combat difficulty "easy" which is true because the game locks its hard mode, which was a stupid decision, but it's certainly not shallow.

                >b-but I can play like a moron and beat the game
                That applies to 99.9% of modern titles.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >game gets good 80 hours in after you finish and start over.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >which was a stupid decision
                I'm convinced Ganker can't read honestly.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >can't say shallow
                Fine, how about boring and completely braindead instead?

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Just equip journalist accessories bro, clearly you're too stupid to do anything other than button mash.

                >Combat is almost as deep as DMCV's and this isn't even a pure action game
                This game isn't even near the level of KH or TWEWY let alone DMCV, dumbass.

                Source: you watching the twitch vod of someone else playing the game. Yeah I believe wholeheartedly.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Shill or moron trying to convince himself he didn't waste $570 plus tax on this game? You be the judge

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >so poor he can't afford 3 consoles + games every several years

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                I live in America, not India.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >America
                So you are poor

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Go mow some lawns b***h.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >America
                So you are poor

                >n-no i'm not the one obsessed, y-you are
                projecting. I just got here too, just wanted to point out how badly you seemed hurt that you were called out directly.

                >so poor he can't afford 3 consoles + games every several years

                Just equip journalist accessories bro, clearly you're too stupid to do anything other than button mash.

                [...]
                Source: you watching the twitch vod of someone else playing the game. Yeah I believe wholeheartedly.

                >DO NOT REDEEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
                I'm going to frick Shiva in the ass now.

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              They hated him because he told the truth

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              Problem is he's not judging the game for what it is, he's complaining the game is not like how wanted it to be. Being light on Rpg elements for example is not a legit complaint or criticism. Devs can do whatever they want, they don't have to follow a checklist when making games.

              His one and only legit complaint is that the game is too easy, so you don't have to utilize most of the tools at your disposal. You could literally beat the game by just mashing attack and dodge. Dodge in particular has like a 1,000 iframes. You spam it and basically nothing can touch you. It's fricking stupid. But the combat itself not being deep is complete and total bullshit. Combat is almost as deep as DMCV's and this isn't even a pure action game. The kind of combos you can string using the dog, charging magic and the plethora of abilities are insane. And just like a DMC game the game has many methods to cancel moves to string into other and create unique combos. Of-course nobody does it just like everyone who plays DMC games just spam stinger from start to finish. For some reason people are just incapable of understanding the concept of cancels, so the do nothing but mash buttons and spam stinger.

              The game is amazing btw.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Being light on Rpg elements for example is not a legit complaint or criticism
                It is if it's an RPG you fricking moron. It's not like the action combat is good enough to make up for a lack of RPG dpeth.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Can someone tell me why every moron on this site posts a reaction image whenever they think they're making a good argument?

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                nta but anons are more likely to read an image if it has a picture attached

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                I see, they're just attention seeking

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Can someone tell me why every moron on this site posts a reaction image whenever they think they're making a good argument?

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Can someone tell me why every moron on this site posts a reaction image whenever they think they're making a good argument?
                They don't, most of us just lazy and don't post images, you could, you just don't.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Jesus fricking wept, time really is a god damn circle.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >homies really do be posting images on MY imageboard baka tbh senpai

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                that one fricking Kermitgay Melee rant really rubbed off on midwit anons.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >posts images on an image board
                >for reactions
                I wonder

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Problem is he's not judging the game for what it is, he's complaining the game is not like how wanted it to be
                If they didn't want this game to be compared to its predecessors, they probably shouldn't have attached a pre-existing franchise to it.
                If you put a game called "Call of Duty, Modern Warfare 10" in front of me and it turns out to be a cooking game, I'm going to be upset. Not because I don't like cooking games but because it's not what I ordered when I saw the name.
                But here's another issue with the game that results from its sort of attempt to straddle the line: it's got a bit of identity crisis in its gameplay-cutscene ratio.
                ITs gameplay is absolutely fun, it's the best playing of FF's action game ventures. But its got so many goddamn cutscenes along the mainstory path that you're functionally at a 60:40 ratio of cutscene to gameplay but with a story that lacks any human element to attach to because it's so consistently dour that it's hard to care about the characters, let alone the battles.
                It's clear they WANT you to focus on the main story, given how lackluster the side content is. But the result is that if you just mainline the story, you end up watching an HBO Prestige Fantasy Series that starts to crash and burn in its last quarter for most of the time, with bouts of actually fun gameplay during the rest.
                Do you know why DMC and Bayonetta are nice? Their ratio of cutscene to gameplay is very one-sided so that you can enjoy the thing the devs clearly actually care about

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                I was honestly surprised at the cutscenes - don't get me wrong, it's a Final Fantasy game so I was expecting a lot of them but that first forest area after you go to the hideaway made me want to quit then. Every single battle is followed up by a pointless cutscene where Clive asks Cid over and over again what he's getting out of doing this. I got bored pretty fast, just bookend the areas with huge cutscenes and let me play inbetween.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                It's the FF14 influence. There's almost no gameplay throughout the story, so I guess they thought the single player games needed that too.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Same
                Like, I'm all down for cutscenes. I'm a xenogay, I'm used to it
                But the issue is that the side content is so lifeless (I like FFXII hunts but I wanted better side content out of that game too). So when you're just mainlining story, the density of cutscenes becomes more noticeable because they become more frequent too.
                Listen FFXVI, it's fine to have lots of cutscenes but give me something fun to do that ISNT the main story and it won't become an issue. The decision to eschew any goofy shit to do on the side really bites this game in the ass.
                I actually think about Astral Chain in comparison to this a lot and how that game is kind of perfect with its mix of straight combat, mini games, side quests, lore bits and main story cutscenes. It doesn't have the best combat in the world, it's worse than FFXVI in that regard. But it's a far more balanced serving that makes the combat shine more when you do get to it, right after you're done balancing 20 scoops of ice cream down some stairs

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                XII also had neat little areas to explore and a couple spots changed where you could go based on the weather. Don't remember much of the side quests but im sure there were some good ones.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >XII also had neat little areas to explore and a couple spots changed where you could go based on the weather. Don't remember much of the side quests but im sure there were some good ones.
                There were some non-hunt ones like trying to get flowers from all the flight attendants based on routes between cities.
                But the lion's share of side content were hunts and finding optional Zodiac summons (Which were cool, don't get me wrong).
                Also Zodiac weapons.
                Not sure if FFXVI has any optional eikons at all, where's Leviathan?

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                XVI has no optional anything outside of the hunts I guess. No dungeons, no superbosses. Nothing.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                FFXVI’s problem is the same problem I had with Wonderful 101. In Wonderful 101 the fun action gameplay is constantly interrupted with long dialogue sequences and dogshit minigames (no Kamiya I don’t want to play Space Harrier). The characters are charming at least but it tries to hard to emphasize the artificial spectacle.
                FFXVI basically does the same thing except the dialogue and characters aren’t fun bad, they’re just bad

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                I can accept mini games and some cutscenes
                I understand they have their place as a way of telling parts of story that your existing gameplay doesn't service well.
                >it tries to hard to emphasize the artificial spectacle
                I think it's pretty shameless about it, which makes me more forgiving of it
                FFXVI is just a mix of two things that don't go well together: the cutscenes density of an FF game main story with the side-content mentality of a normal action game

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >create new game in RPG series
                >WHY DID YOU EXPECT AN RPG?! CANT YOU JUST JUDGE A THING FOR WHAT IT IS?!
                You don't get to dress yourself in the robes of a king and then ask to be judged on your cooking

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >game was clearly going to be an action game since the first trailer
                >NOOOO WHY IS THIS NOT A PROPER RPG

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >game was clearly going to be an action game
                then why am i spending 80% of my time watching movies with my controller sitting on the table?

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Because, as many classic FF, is story driven.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah but the problem is the story is shit.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Its good, Im not expecting a masterclass on storycraft, but same can be said of 99% of videogames

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Because, as many classic FF, is story driven.
                Except when I play FF5 it's 98% gameplay with like 2 minutes of text boxes here and there. Nevermind the fact that a game can tell a story without being a literal movie.

                Modern FF fans are some of the dumbest people alive.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >why there are 12 hours of cutscenes missing in the famicom games, huh?

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >why there are 12 hours of cutscenes missing in the famicom games, huh?
                Did you not read my entire post or are you just pretending to be moronic?

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                5 came out in the superfamicom, made with a focus on gameplay (unlike the games that came before or after) and trying to expand the formula of the famicom games (1 and 3). So?

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                The PS1 games had significantly more gameplay than cutscenes, even if you count the text dumps as cutscenes. How did you not know that?

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >it was different 20 years ago
                No shit Sherlock. You werent there but VII was heavily advertised as a cinematic experience, these games are supposed to be story driven. Again, you are acting as if FFXV was a movie when most of the game is actual gameplay. Now, if you have ADHD play Vampire Survivors

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >every FF game has a focus on story
                >but they don't force you to watch endless movies while barely giving you a game to play
                >therefore it's good that FF16 forces you to watch endless movies while barely giving you a game to play
                Rock solid argument.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >forces you
                You can skip them, though?
                >I wont understand tho!
                Use the Active Time Lore and/or Harpocrates?

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                This is not an argument and you know it.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                How come? Because it isnt exactly as you want? But the world doesnt revolve around you, sweetie

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                you can tell this is a FF14 player by their absolute inability to be reasoned with and the mental contortions they make in their defense of YoshiP's "masterpiece".

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >You can skip them, though?
                Great, so I can skip the shit movies that make up the core of the experience and get straight to the shitty sidelined gameplay. You've convinced me, the game must be flawless.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >"I dont want to watch so many cutscenes!"
                >You can skip them
                >"but I wont understand whats goin on!"
                >use the in-game encyclopedia
                >"but then I'll miss the cutscenes!"
                Jesus...

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah, it's almost like every part of the game ends up being bad when 75% of the focus and budget is squarely on creating pretty movies. You're so close to getting it.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >its le bad because I say so
                You were either fat, a single child, or both

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                You lost me at no shit sherlock.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                So no argument, case closed then

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                This isn't a courtoom you stupid homosexual. This is reality, where everyone fricking hates the game you're shilling. It's not even good enough for reddit which is fricking hilarious

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                I hated FFXV too.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                I dont give a frick about your site, homosexual.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Ok, but do you denouce the bhagavad gita though?

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                When Nomura arrived with his chariots and slew 1 million MMO-Black folk, he said only one word:
                >namaste

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                So no then. Got it. Go back to India homosexual.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                kek, the bhagavad gita is not an Indian work. I am also not the anon you were talking to. Dasyus were dark-skinned people. The Gods in the book are blonde haired and blue eyed. It matches with genetic records of the Aryans as well.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                What are you a fricking Aghori? KYS

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                No, I am not from India nor have I ever been there. It's simply the historical record. The book itself says it is not to be read by dark skinned people lmao

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Sorry I didn't read it because I'm not a homosexual. Let's please focus on the troony game at hand though.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Fair enough. Game is trash obviously.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                The frick is that? I dont speak pajeet

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >made with a focus on gameplay
                No, every FF game from 4 to 9 had a focus on story, without overwhelming the character with hours of non-gameplay.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >"story focused" means it needs to be a literal movie
                anon is right, you people have terminal brain rot.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                You are acting as if 90% of the game were cutscenes, so calm your breasts first

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                it is though?

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Ah, yes. Main story is 35 hours, so 31 and half hours of pure cutscenes. Surely sounds accurate, you stupid frick

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Actual seething. Go play your troony game homosexual. https://youtu.be/B41hFVStnYw

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                It sure feels like it sometimes

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                this game is barely close to DMC 1 much less V, the frick are you on about. I'm telling you these ffxvi wienersuckers are on some serious cope.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Combat is almost as deep as DMCV's and this isn't even a pure action game
                This game isn't even near the level of KH or TWEWY let alone DMCV, dumbass.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Based.
                I also don't understand what the hate is about, I'm 30+ hours in and until now my only complaint is that god awful Mid mainline quest and the start to mid game sidequests, that's it.
                The story is fantastic, the combat is deep, and the Eikon fights are fricking incredible, especially the one in Dhalmekia.
                The only reason that it didn't score 90+ on metacritic is unironically because of the "diversity" issues, you are more than welcome to read the mediocre reviews on metacritic if you think that this is cope.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Go back

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Pretty much this. Idk why it's ok to criticize FF for not being what you wanted rather than critiquing it for what it is but any other game that does the same nope

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        I only trust longtime FF players if they say they like all the games, because unironically, they're all nearly the same

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        I just want you to know that we all see through this post. You're not swaying anyone. The game is bad. Even the FF subreddit hates it. KYS

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          >asspained by a post almost 3 hours ago
          >we here in the FF subreddit hate it!!!
          Ok longtime FF fan, feel free to go back.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            Still in the thread? Why aren't you playing your favorite game? I just got here homosexual. Difference is I'm not being paid $2 an hour in indian currency to be here

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              >n-no i'm not the one obsessed, y-you are
              projecting. I just got here too, just wanted to point out how badly you seemed hurt that you were called out directly.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Because I mostly remember "RPG elements" being what passive stat boosts you equip on characters
      Not really true, the RPG elements I remember most are the different skills you get on jobs that largely re-define how they play.
      >side quests being random shit that lead to maybe one extra dungeon, an extra boss or an additional summon
      Those are all pretty significant. Like REALLY significant
      It means instead of giving you 5 phoenix downs, you get something actually distinct and bespoke that the devs had to spend real time making.
      Getting an additional summon from a side quest is very exciting, especially depending on the game where it can also mean new spells or new abilities outright

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        But the meaningful side quest thing happened less than a handful of times each game though. I’ll give gow ragnarok credit with this though for modern aaa, the crater area was optional and gives you a ton of useful things plus some lore drops and dragon fights. Don’t think ff16 has anything like that unfortunately.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          In most FF games prior to XII, there weren't actually that many side quests in general. And the ones that were there typically gave you either highly valuable but expendable items, new summons, resources needed to make or acquire high-value weapons/gear, or sometimes new party members altogether.
          The point is that these games wouldn't have that much optional content but what they did have was of some significance.
          Like in FF4, the only real side content is getting the new eidolons for Rydia.
          The issue is FF16 has lots of side content and NONE of it gives you anything particularly useful. You can't even make Ultima until NG+

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            >there weren't actually that many side quests in general.
            vii, viii and ix side content is like the best part of those games

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              Yeah, 7 had a decent bit with summon and optional materia, plus shit like wutai, yuffie and vincent quests.
              9 was basically 50% side content and most of it was sort of interesting.
              I was happy to see X also was pretty strong on its side content for the most part.
              It's funny how weak it gets after X

  5. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Its worth noting that final fantasy 4, one of the most celebrated entries in the series, also completely lacked any rpg mechanics.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      It was still a proper jrpg dumbfrick. Equipment choice and party composition was meaningful.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >also completely lacked any rpg mechanics.
      No, 4 had proper dungeons and fun itemization. FF16 is a movie with """open world""" areas that might as well just be hallways.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        there may be not be straight lines between doors, but this is absolutely a hallway.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          It's overwhelmingly more complex than what modern FF pretends passes as a dungeon. Yes it's linear but there are puzzles, side rooms, hidden treasures, etc.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Yes it's linear but there are puzzles, side rooms, hidden treasures, etc.
            lol where

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              On the map that I posted. Are you just pretending to be moronic?

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              You know.... The puzzle where you press a switch to open a door...

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              almost every single room has multiple exits and entrances that lead to various outcomes like treasures, death traps, conveyor belt puzzles, optional bosses, empty rooms. if you're going to try and bait responses at least do it with a game you've played.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            >modern ff
            >posts a dungeon from 2014

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Wtf are you talking about the game made you cycle through characters that fit completely different roles and had plenty dungeons.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >also completely lacked any rpg mechanics.
      Are you moronic or did you just not play it?
      >Every character had a unique job that played pretty differently
      >Those jobs reflected the personality and backstories of the characters they were attached to
      >Some characters change jobs or get massive upgrades later into the game as they go through character developments
      >The specialties of these characters was expressed through their stats and abilities
      You either did not play FF4 or have a really skewed idea of what "RPG" Mechanics means

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        >You either did not play FF4
        That's pretty much 99% of the people you talk to in these threads. Everyone pretends to know x/y/z about their favorite FF game, probably just watched youtube summaries on all of them.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah
          I was one of those people myself until quarantine hit and it was basically a godsent opportunity to work through my backlog and stop being a poser.
          And it turns out those games are pretty fun but also show you how, prior to games all getting constrained by the idea of pre-existing genres, how experimental devs could be.
          I think if anyone wants to really understand why FF got as big as it did in the future with 6 and 7 and even 8, they should play 1-4 and just look at the progression of not only gameplay complexity or story complexity but also the way the games got better at telling their story THROUGH gameplay
          FF4 was a big leap in popularity exactly because it innovated in that way, similar to how DQ5 was a big jump in storytelling sophistication over DQ4

  6. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >If you don't like the character, the combat and the story, there's not much here for you

  7. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Said that it was going to be more action oriented.
    >It doesn't have RPG elements.
    Is this guy dumb?

  8. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    That guy pretending to like FF is the funniest shit

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Imagine a review of the Senran Kagura series

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        He would probably explode.
        Someone who asks YoshiP about the "lack of diversity" isn't gonna enjoy staring at anime tiddies.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      He pretty much backed down on this statement btw and thinks FF14 is gods gift which is also a red flag

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        >thinks FF14 is gods gift
        proof?

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Someone who says shit like this shouldn't even have a fanbase or cred in this medium

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        >weeb Black person crying over a review
        homie THIS SHIT AINT THAT SERIOUS LMAO

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          Go back tourist

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      this is an absolute lie devil hunter is a lot easier and more braindead than rdr2.

  9. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >there is no rpg elements
    Literally open the menu - you have equipment - you level - you have accessories, you have skill trees to manage - you can craft weapons - you can buy and sell weapons - you can upgrade them too
    This alone is more than half of the true RPGs in the FF mainline offer.
    >for me FF is about friendship
    Yeah and the entire first act is nothing but you hanging out with Cid and him and his buddies trying to bro up with Clive. You even get the obligatory love interest
    >it has crystals but i don't care
    okay
    >it has cid but i don't care
    okay
    >this game has too many cutscenes
    Yet you gave God of War a near perfect score and consider it GOTYAY.

    Just be honest and say you dislike the game because weebs still give you shit for you absolutely terrible opinions regarding anything japanese like Lost Judgement or DMC.
    You don't care about Final Fantasy. Reviewing games just because you dislike the fans and want to piss them off is kinda pathetic.

  10. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Didn't this guy give Cyperpunk a 10?
    LMAO

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      He also said that Halo Infinite is a huge step forward for the franchise.
      And that FFXV is great because its "fun" in the way how broken it is.
      And that Lost Judgement is bad because its a RGG game that has - guess what - wacky side quests - something totally unseen in Yakuza games apparently
      He also shilled BF2043 until the entire thing blew up immensely and still shills other modern unfinished AAA garbage,

      This guy has honestly some of the dumbest takes of them all.

  11. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    so the ntr scene is real?

  12. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >I PROMISE IM NOT A SHILL
    ok shill up

  13. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >FF gave up being a decent RPG to become a bad character action game
    >Everyone is defending it because it has pretty graphics
    I wonder is people would be just as forgiving if the game looked like xenoblade.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      But looks are basically the only thing XVI has going for itself.

  14. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    game reviewing outside of its technical aspects has completely fallen, like at this point I just want to know if my machine can run it and no other opinions of theirs. too bad I have neither a switch or PS5 tho

  15. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >that time when Shillup made a review of Judgment after not playing the game for more then 12 hours
    >shilled for Avengers
    >bootlicks every Ubi game
    >shit on Lost Judgment and Biomutant
    >gaming journalist tier takes like "if you don't want a super easy mode in games you have never been with a woman", which is funny, because 'he' argues like one

    Funfact: He later admitted that he didn't even finish Lost Judgment before reviewing it.
    Yeah. People actually watch this guy.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      he's pretty anti Ubisoft

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >shilled for avengers
      90% of the review was him shitting on the game and saying dont buy it
      >bootlicks every Ubi game
      His review of Valhalla made very clear he hates nu-ubisoft
      >shit on Biomutant
      Come on homie, even I wanted to like that game but its shit

      The dude isnt the messiah of game critics, 3/4 of the time his takes are shit your average Ganker user would say

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        ff cultists cant fathom someone disliking their slop

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          a lot of ff fans don't even seem to care about this game because how far it deviates from the nor for the series, Ganker is one of the only places i've seen that shills it hard for some reason.

  16. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    This guy would be more credible if he didn't give so many shit games a 10/10.

  17. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    This whole game feels like someone trying to do their own Game of Thrones fanfiction. Though given the first game was a D&D ripoff I guess that's not entirely out of character.

  18. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    He also recommended diablo 4

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      yeah, diablo 4 is significantly more of a video game than ff16.

  19. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    As soon as I unlocked Garuda the game become a 9/10

  20. 11 months ago
    Anonymous
  21. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    I believe it, recent ff titles have sucked ass in the rpg department and the one that doesnt mess with nonsense(stranger of paradise) that story is a fricking mockery. Still no PS5 then

  22. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    He will say all this but then praise Witcher 3

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Well yeah Witcher 3 is much more of an RPG than XVI

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Witcher 3, while a shitty action game, is a half decent RPG
      I think it's a bit overrated in general by most people but it's perfectly decent for the purpose of conveying what it's like being Geralt

  23. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    combat is 90% of what makes a game worth playing, if it's impressive then that has to mean something

  24. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    skill up disliked some of my most favorite games so this is only a good review imo

  25. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Ganker is fricking hilarious.
    they spam "most ambitious final fantasy" and want the game to fail, when a dude actually makes a review saying that the game is indeed not ambitious and has gameplay systems straight out of ps3 era Ganker suddenly have to be contrarian again.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      frick, i fricked it up, meant to say "least ambitious final fantasy", i'm tired.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      were you around when the demo was released, Ganker was singing praising for this game you would think it was a shill campaign

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        oh yeah good point, I noticed shift after the demo too.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        >3 years of people shitting on the PS5 here saying it had "ONE GAME" and that there was no point buying it since they'll all come to PC anyways
        >FFXVI demo comes out
        >suddenly tons of posts saying they're buying a PS5 now even though they couldn't even fricking play the demo and we all know that its eventually coming to PC anyways

        square enix were even shilling that pile of trash forspoken on here so its not surprising

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        It WAS a shill campaign.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      I was one of those who trashed the game non-stop because of how dull and bland it looked. But then I played it. I'm nearly at the end. There is no way to hate this game because it is absolutely amazing. Once you Black folk finally get it on PC, Xbox or something you'll understand how wrong all of these 6/10 reviews are. The combat, the graphics the music, the characters, and even the story some journos claim turns bad in the second half is all bullshit, everything about this game is amazing. Easily one of the top FF games to date. Better than FF12-13-15 and FF7R. My only complaint is the game needed a higher difficulty from the start.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        your opinion is just dogshit
        play better games Black person

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        >leaves out FF 14
        kek
        very believable false flag mmoBlack person

  26. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    I mean I feel like these complaints were obvious. They definitely didn’t advertise it as an RPG, it really felt like an action game.

  27. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

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  28. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >impressive combat
    I mean yeah it feels alright to play, but there's nothing impressive about it at all.

  29. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why does Ganker excuse movie games when the east does it?

  30. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'm playing it on my friend's PS5 and by god it's really is SE's God of War: My Wife's Son; boring tedious fighting, minimum RPG elements, story that pretends it's better than it is, frickloads of cutscenes (and cutscenes when even fighting). And Ganker celebrating like it's god's gift to mankind are literally the >movie game, Japan 😀 meme come true.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah, but the writing is so uninteresting that it being a cinematic game just makes it worse.
      GOW's writing was way better.
      I'd unironically rather have kawaii anime stories filled with autistic and unrealistic adhd characters.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        GoW2018, for all the personal issues I have with it, is at least competent in what it wants to do from a writing perspective.
        It's a story about families and how dysfunctional dynamics can sprout from good intentions gone awry. It's a very focused story on parental dynamics. It's cast is limited specifically to bring that focus
        My issue is I can't really say what the emotional throughline of FFXVI is.
        It's not the suffering of the commoners because that plotline only shows up once in a while
        It's not rebelling against an unjust authority, because that plotline also isn't really that present all that much until the end
        It isn't the squabbling over resources generating more sorrow than sharing because that plotline gets dropped near the end.
        It's not the relationship between Clive and Jill or Clive and Joshua because nothing else really reflects those.

  31. 11 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      naaah this is fake right?
      how hard did this game flop?

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Did you miss the part where every major AAA game had some sort of special promotion with selected stores?

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          30 FRICKING %
          Yoshida is also talking about the pc port already, just lmao

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah they said it will release on other consoles way before that.
            30% is a standard promo for launch, hell I got Diablo 4 on release for 45 euros

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            well yeah, everyone knew, even Sony, that the deal would hurt game sells, but if somehow they manage to israelite people out of their money for a handful of PS5, is a plus

  32. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    honestly my least favorite part of the demo was the combat. I hate waiting on cooldowns. using moves should fill gauges that let you use more moves. also frick not being able to lock on with R3. I was actually excited for the game but the combat was so disappointing compared to SoP

  33. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Didn't this moron hate Judgment? Zero taste homosexual, so now I have to assume FF 16 is actually the best game ever made

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      He also played warframe and thought it was the next big thing, hyping it to the high heavens.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        At the time, that was an understandable feeling.
        Some problems with games, especially live service games, only reveal themselves with enough exposure or over time

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        And it could’ve been if the devs knew how to make a game with content updates and streamline the new player experience

  34. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >extremely linear
    >you only really control ONE (1) (singular) character in a FINAL FANTASY (famous for being a party RPG) game
    >boring game of thrones schlock story
    >animated to english dubs with mediocre voice acting
    >hard mode is locked behind completion so you're stuck playing mash city for 50 hours
    >minimal RPG elements. There isn't even variation in gear progression, you basically just equip whatever is given to you.
    >DMC lite as you just use whatever skill is going off cooldown. Nearly non-existent benefit to optimizing this.
    >constantly re-used fights which leads to fighting like 8 dragoon mini-bosses throughout the game
    yeah uhhhhhhhhhhhhhh its racism that makes this game bad

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      That is how shills cope, ignore all criticism and cry about muh Black person rating

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >extremely linear
      10 and 13 already did this, and you have to be coping to think the old games didn't have one path to go. Yeah, you can run around the world map outside of Midgar but you literally have one route to Junon, then one route to Gold Saucer, then one route to Nibelheim. The big detours of FF7 pre-Cid are visiting Gongaga for some lore and Fort Condor.
      >you only really control ONE (1) (singular) character in a FINAL FANTASY (famous for being a party RPG) game
      13 and 15 already did this
      >boring game of thrones schlock story
      >animated to english dubs with mediocre voice acting
      Opinion
      >hard mode is locked behind completion so you're stuck playing mash city for 50 hours
      I hate this but its clearly because they swapped around all the enemy positions its not making those level 10 wolves harder its swapping them for level 40 fricking chimera shit. I wish we got the more aggressive enemies on the first playthrough though
      >minimal RPG elements. There isn't even variation in gear progression, you basically just equip whatever is given to you.
      I dislike this but even then its not a huge deal. In 6 you equip people with espers as the big mechanic which equates to grinding to unlock spells and gain extra stuff on level up. Why can't JRPGs let me put my own level up points in like Western RPGs, let me go full glass cannon if I feel like it.

      >constantly re-used fights which leads to fighting like 8 dragoon mini-bosses throughout the game
      Staple of action games and RPGs. I mean shit are we really saying this after ER got 10/10s, won GOTY and people still eat it up?

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        15 added the other playable party members being playable in an update. The game sucks but judging it as it was on release in the present is dumb.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          You have to manually move over and play AS them, then the AI takes over for your character. Its 7R without being able to pause and command all people at the same time which is what western RPGs were doing ages ago. Primarily play one person, but can pause and command others. 7R just needs a jump button and better basic combos, definitely needs some Square+X stuff that 16 has. Would add that extra missing flair outside of mashing square, or holding squad, or using Triangle to swap modes as Cloud. Barrett for instance is just boring as frick to PLAY as, Tifa and Yuffie being the most fun

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        >and you have to be coping to think the old games didn't have one path to go
        the old games had a ton of proper dungeons and nonlinear environments to explore, even in FF7-9. and each had a number of optional locations that you could find while exploring the world map too.

        so much revisionist history from YoshiP cultists high on radioactive copium.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          Patently false and desperate cope, Barry

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            There's nothing false about it, and I'm not your schizo boogeyman. Keep slurping on that cope juice.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        >10 and 13 already did this
        13 is one of the most panned Final Fantasy games of all time bro

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          Same metacritic score as Final Fantasy Tactics, its not that panned.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            To be honest, FFT is criminally overrated. The story was generic even for the time, and gameplay is too basic, literally just feels like a JRPG on a grid, there's no need for "tactics" at any point. The only time the game is difficult is at 2 notoriously poorly designed encounters, the 1v1 vs. Weigraff and the rooftop encounter with that duke that comes after, where you're supposed to defend an NPC but his 2 ninjas outspeed everything and they're most likely going to oneshot the NPC before you can even blink. The rest of the game is pretty mindless, and then you get Cid.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Nearly non-existent benefit to optimizing this.
      You optimize for damage. Every time you do a precision dodge or a parry you do more damage. When you do combos combined with burst and charging magic you do more damage. Anybody complaining about "muh damage sponge" never learned to play the game. Literal mouth breathers mindlessly mashing buttons. This is why you don't make games too easy, because then you get morons like this. But if you make it too hard they still complain and ask for accessibility options. There is no way to win with you morons.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        >When you do combos combined with burst and charging magic you do more damage
        lol lmao rofl, the combo system consists of hmmmmmm holding the button for a bit longer

  35. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's honestly crazy seeing how hard westoid reviewers are railing against the game for daring to not have any Black folk in it, or obnoxiously "strong" female characters.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Westoid reviewers are railing against the game

      Yeah maybe in your schizo bubble, but the alphabet group/ESGamers are loving this shit game. Now watch as you backtrack like a gigantic Black person as the Japanese trash the game relentlessly (as they should)

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      All it does is prove why you should never listen to game reviewers

  36. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    FF died after X, despite being a good game.
    Anything after that was some other shit wearing FF's skin. FFXVI is at least better than XV in that regard but that's far from an achievement.

  37. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Based review, seriously, what makes ff15 and ff16 different? Story is still shit, rpg mechanics are still shit, exploration is arguably worse in 16… it’s just sad tbh, shit seems half baked idea-wise

  38. 11 months ago
    sage

    not to defend Snoytastic FF16, but imagine listening to Shill Up
    lmao

  39. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's funny nips on 5ch are putting english reviews through deepl
    >owari da

  40. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    I played the demo and had the same impression. Piss easy combat.

  41. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    NOOOOOOOOOO THE WEST HATES THIS GAMEEEE THOSE EVIL GAME JOURNOS ARE PERSECUTING ME

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >IGN
      I don't why people still think their opinion has any value.

  42. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >XIV is more of an RPG than XVI
    I guess Yoshi just wanted to make an edgy movie game. At least the combat seems fine.

  43. 11 months ago
    Anonymous
  44. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's fricking over

  45. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >every character looks like it was made from the ff14 character creator
    >all bland, nobody stands out
    lazy fricking designs

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >every character looks like it was made from the ff14 character creator
      I mean, if you can recreate them go ahead. I'd like to see it.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Just look at this cast of boring same-faced homosexuals compared to golden age final fantasy designs
        le mature (muh realism) bullshit

  46. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Don't understand the, like, 5 IPs shitposting blatant lies about this game nearly constantly. It's the most fun single player game I've ever played.

  47. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    did they really think that shit lighting and an unlikeable main character is dark fantasy?

  48. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Skill Up didnt mention anything about muh whites or diversity
    >REEEEEEE HE HATES IT CAUSE OF NO DIVERSITY
    Holy kek. Maybe the games just fricking trash? Next thing you know it, the FFXVI cult will say Skill Up is secretly Barry all along

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      NOOO THE GAME CANT BE TRASH
      YOSHITP MADE IT, ITS GOOD
      STOP TALKING SHIT BARRY

  49. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Thank God I canceled my preorder

  50. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    barry won

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Doesn't like Clive
      >Filtered by the story
      Is Barry really championing midwits?

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        who the frick likes clive? I don't even care about the story but liking clive is akin to liking boone from FNV. the writers just made him a tryhard edgy roidhead.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          How the frick is he edgy? He smiles throughout the game. Is it too much that he has some issues because he was enslaved for 13 years after losing aml his family, and/or because he thinks he killed his brother for a portion of the game?

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            as we all know, edgy characters NEVER smile

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              I was trying to give an example without doing a full on analysis. But if you are using Sasuke, compare how he acted with Naruto or Sakura at first to how Clive acts to Cid, for example. He isnt edgy, but apparently all you want is Vaan

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                My point was just that smiling isn't really a measure of edginess.
                For what it's worth, I wouldn't say Clive is edgy, he's just fricking joyless. Like, given that we don't have party members, he's not really charismatic enough to carry the story.
                I don't really know how to put it but even for his archetype, he doesn't really give me a lot to attach to. The only time I really felt any connection to him is when he was screaming for ifrit to stop killing phoenix because it rumbled some of my own big brother instincts.

  51. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Demo was boring as frick makes no sense Ganker shills this garbage so hard.

  52. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Black person fatigue proven correct
    Holy shit this game broke Ganker harder than Elden Ring huh?

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >comparing this shit to elden kino
      xvi is already dead
      elden ring dominated Ganker for months

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      I think elden ring had more shitposters, but the shitposters for ff16 are more mindbroken by the game than elden ring's were. I think the demo being well received is what pushed them over the edge, since before that all discussion about this game on Ganker was extremely negative, so they actually thought this game would somehow flop

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        I dont know why you cant understand that many people are passionate about Final Fantasy and FFXVI is just the straw that broke the camel after the shit that was XV. Its also the fact that its just insanely shilled. Even Elden Ring wasnt half as shilled as FFXVI before release and that was one of the biggest gaming releases in a long time. You could also critique Elden Rings issues without having the thread go into full meltdown mode about some boogeyman schizo (which honestly makes FFXVIgays more mindbroken than the peoples dislike for XVI)

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          You can criticize the game, but "88 is a bad score", "nobody is watching it on twitch" "this game is going to sell horribly and kill the final fantasy franchise" are not criticisms, they're shitposting from people who want the game to be bad. Also this game was shit on for months, I don't understand why you think Ganker shilled this game.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            >ctrl tw*tch
            >1 results
            stop strawmanning shill
            game is mid gayslop

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              A very good example of what I mean why I say this game mind broke it's shitposters

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                You dumb Black folk are the ones crying over barry
                No one was talking about twitch numbers you stupid moronic Black person shill

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                I never mention barry, what are you talking about? And yes, people were talking about twitch numbers in previous threads. Did this game doing well frick you over so hard you actually have to make up shit in your head to throw a tantrum about?

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >I never mention barry, what are you talking about?
                YOU ARE NOT JUST A DISHONEST Black person BUT ALSO A DUMB FRICKING SHILL

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            >this game is going to sell horribly
            The game pre-orders were tracking far lower than even XV its probably going to be one of the worst selling FF ever so try again shill.

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              >selling worse than another entry in the franchise means it's selling badly
              Do you honestly believe this? Because if so that's just sad

  53. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    I like it overall, but it could doubled down further on DMC if its already focusing more in that direction. It going full Ashuras Wrath does help with the big fights though, that shits entertaining.

  54. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    cheque never arrive

  55. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Who is he and why should I care about his opinion?

  56. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Can someone explain to me why ign Japan made that video where apparently they shit on the game AFTER giving a good score?

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Because playing 2 sides is always a good idea

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >AFTER giving a good score
      Maybe I'm blind but I just browsed the site and didn't find their FFXVI review, what's up with that?

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Paid for the number, but they can say what they like.

  57. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    dragons dogma 2 will show square how to make a real arpg with proper challenging gameplay, indepth combat system, and party mechanics
    sure they might win in the story department but even capcom had great VAs for the first game
    but it'll also have a lot more substance with how the world works, how npcs and party companions interact, and upgrading or crafting gear/weapons across various classes

  58. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    lets be honest
    people only care about this mid shit because its called ff

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Kind of? Its ironic how after all the "this isnt FF" shitpost, the game has every FF trope I can think about. Game is fun, though

  59. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >RPG elements being absent
    So like every FF game then

  60. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Wonder where the criticisms were when FF7R was also a departure from "traditional" gameplay

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Fewer compared to the time jannies meltdown, but there was still a lot of "this isnt FF" and "all we wanted was a 1:1 remake with this graphics"

  61. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    the only part of his review that has any point is the last bit where he whines like a b***h that it isn't like the old FFs. That's all this is about. Keep in mind that this moron like both god of S O Is and wanked them off like he was being paid to gargle the cum. XVI has some deep flaws but this guy is legit worthless as a reviewer.

  62. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    I mean they ain't wrong. Critics agreed that even Y7 managed to be an even better RPG than current FF.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      it's alright but the sidequests while some are funny ,many are just annoying. The combat is also boring as all frick.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >storytelling and quest structure
      uhh its literally the same as every past Yakuza game. It didn't change at all becoming an RPG.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Note how he said "series"
        He wasn't talking about Yakuza 7 specifically, he was talking about Yakuza as a whole
        Also all the Yakuza games are RPGs

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      the JRPG scene has been pretty strong since the Switch era began. It was pretty quiet for the entire 7th gen and most of the 8th gen. But we've seen a ton more entries and interest in the genre since 2017 or 2018.
      That Takahashi is basically at the height of his abilities in terms of both his own vision as well as the total competency of his studio, not to mention Square themselves coming out with tons of strong JRPG outside of FF these days (Neo TWEWY, Octopath 2, Triangle Strategy, Live A Live) and the mid-budget era of JRPGs is starting up again, I can't imagine trying to enter that red ocean with FFXVI would have been an enviable task. So they sort of side-stepped it and aimed for the AAA ur-genre

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        I feel as though the FF image of reinventing itself at this point is the series biggest weakness. Kitase/Yoshi both say stuff like "FF can be anything the creators want them to be" but the game design doesn't reflect that.
        FF16 wants to be an action game, then make it an action game. Go all in! Instead we get some half-assed action and rpg systems.
        When Yakuza 7 went full turn-based, the creators didn't pull back! They had a clear vision. The Xenoblade games also have a clear vision for the identity of the series too! Takahashi has said it's a "meeting of foreign elements" but the series itself can be anything!
        So why is FF so afraid to go too hard in one direction?

        This was both the biggest weakness with 16 and 7R unironically.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          I feel like the reinvention argument is kinda overdone tbh, the games from 1-6, 7 - 12 were all different but they generally had an identity. The newer ones just feel like they're trying to be "x but japanese"

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          I think it’s difficult with action games in particular because there are only a handful of games that sell themselves on their combat alone. DMC, Bayo, God Hand, Ninja Gaiden… those are games that are played for one reason alone: combat. Most combat systems cannot justify an entire game’s existence. You need a lot of secondary and tertiary elements to support the game. Final Fantasy has always leaned on story to support its gameplay and that hasn’t changed in FFXVI, it’s just that the story is bad.

          What’s unfortunate is that FFXVI’s combat is really close to being good enough to justify the game’s existence on its own. This only exacerbates the story issues though because now it’s just a way to interrupt your fun. I genuinely think that if the story was significantly better and the combat moderately worse then people would feel better about the game overall.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            A good point mentioned in the review is the difference that most action focused game are 10-15 hours tops whereas FFXVI is 50 hours which is a lot of time to get sick and tired of simplistic combos and spongey enemies, and the thing is we do have action combat rpg that actually make it work like Dragon's Dogma and Elder Scrolls for example but these games also give you lots of freedom, classes and side content whereas XVI is extremely linear giving you basically nothing to do besides combat and watching cutscenes so it just doesn't work.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >troonyblade
      Opinion discarded

  63. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    he's right though. you can't just invest a bunch of money into astroturfing something into something it isn't. there is literally zero reason for this to be a main numbered Final Fantasy. it has nothing in common with the franchise. gameplay, tone, story. you name it, there is nothing Final Fantasy here.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Anyone claiming this doesnt have anything in common with FF hasnt played the game, specially in terms of story

  64. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    can we fricking go back to FF games being about turn-based combat with four homies in a row?

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Stranger of Paradise in 2022
      >FF16 in 2023
      >FF7 Rebirth in 2024
      No, each one does a different thing and they are all fun. Play Octopath, or even Yakuza or Megaten. Or wait for a new FF remake, Im sure they'll go for turn based for other entries

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        >and they are all fun
        if you absolutely absolutely no taste

  65. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Based drella shat on it her opinion matters more than any one else's

  66. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >43 minutes
    if you can't review the game within 20 minutes then frick off, I ain't watching your video essay

  67. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Game is story driven. First playthrough is the movie + tutorial. NG+ is when the actualy gameplay begins. I say this as a criticism, but Im enjoying it a lot

  68. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Y/N is the most optimal thing to do in any situation (aside from dodging an attack) just using skills as soon their cooldown is up

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      No, you are wasting your cooldowns

  69. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Shillup
    You mean the same homosexual who b***hed about beating up HS students in LJ even though the whole point of the game is that High schoolers are massive homosexuals and need a reality check before they actual hurt people by their actions?

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      He never got his reality check

  70. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    I usually like skillup but his opinion is moronic here
    FF after the first 3 has always been about combat being just a vehicle to drive you to the next big story moments
    it has never, ever been about deep RPG choices or whatever the frick, the RPG part has always been shallow as all frick compared to western RPGs
    it's never ever been about open world exploration or whatever the frick either aside maybe from 12 sort of and 15, there were overworlds that were basically gating and herding you toward the next story moment until late game when, and the rest was mostly linear dungeons areas or cities consisting of a handful of screens with like 4 shops and a couple hidden chests

    anyway 16 being all about combat areas leading you to story heavy sequences makes it 100% FF

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >FF after the first 3 has always been about combat being just a vehicle to drive you to the next big story moments
      I STRONGLY disagree with this
      Combat in FF4 was for getting you to the next story moment but it also was a canvas for the characters to show their personalities.
      In FF5, it was a space for player expression to play around with classes they'd earn and progress. FF5 also had a lot of non-combat or combat-adjacent puzzles and tasks to do.
      The complaint here is mainly around the fact that Combat is literally all there is in FFXVI and it fails to be used effectively as a story-telling measure.
      Which normally isn't an issue. Lots of games can get by just being fun to play. Hi Fi Rush earlier this year was basically the same way.
      The biggest issue is that FFXVI ALSO wants to be a big epic Game of Thrones X Final Fantasy blockbuster so it's got a gameplay:cutscene ratio that really doesn't let the combat shine as the main attraction it is.
      In an ideal world, FFXVI would be a level-based game where you mostly do action and story only happens at the beginning, mid point and end of a level.
      Hunts/Marks would just teleport you to the enemy.
      FFXVI's combat isn't used as a canvas for storytelling, but the structure of the main story doesn't let it be a medium for player expression either since getting new Eikons happens at set points along a cutscene dense trek.
      DMCV, bayonetta, vanquish, Hi Fi Rush and tons of other renowned action games do not waste the player's time with 10+ hours of cutscenes because they know the main reason you're there is for the combat

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      the Materia system literally is part of the story. your gameplay is literally a part of the story in VII

      for frick's sake dude think about the story/gameplay of X. fricking aeons dude.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yup, same with VIII and GF's. MMO players don't play the other games. They read wiki summaries or watch summarys on youtube etc.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >FF after the first 3 has always been about combat being just a vehicle to drive you to the next big story moments
      this is how you spot an FF14 player lmao.

  71. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    FFXVI (and FFXV to a point), it's just KH without the disney shit. Which isn't bad by itself but pretty underwhelming nonetheless.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      add 7R to that list too.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      KH2 was actually fun to play though.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        So yeah, like FF16

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          KH2 actually has some form of difficulty

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            Oh, so you reached lv100 already in FF16? That was fast!

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        You aren't wrong there. But still, it comes down to a point of identity, something modern FF games lack, and lack hard.

  72. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    7R had pretty much the same issues present in 16 but no one said shit about it and just gave it a 88. E-celebs and journalists could jump on the 16 hate train to manufacture controversies.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      7R could be a RTS or a minesweeper clone and nobody would bat an eye since it's based on VII.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      7R is much better at what 16 tries to do, equipment matters and the characters have personality

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      7R let me play as more than one character for starters

  73. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    I replayed almost every mainline FF throughout this laat 2 years and Im halfway through 16, this game literally goes through most of the classic tropes of the series, people are full of shit with "muh purism ñ"

  74. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    OMG I FIXED A BRIDGE IT'S JUST LIKE FF1 I CLAPPED WHEN I REMEMBERED THE THING FROM THE NES GAME!

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah, totally the only thing in common with older games

  75. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    The only annoying thing about this game are barry and mmohater troony from /vg/ going on schizo rants in almost every thread about it

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      never heard of mmohater, what's his deal?

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        A troon from ffg keeps fanboying on Yoshida and labelling any detraction from 14 or 16 as coming from mmohaters.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          Thank you anon. Why can't there be one series on Ganker that doesn't attract schizos? I just want to talk about games I enjoy, but no ff16 has to be either worse than hitler or the greatest thing since sliced bread

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            Most polarizing entry in the series for sure.

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              There's a lot of schizos for sure, but I don't know if it's very polarizing outside of them. From what I've seen it seems like people/reviews that gave it a chance think it's a good game but it has it's fair share of problems. Although I could have just not seen the ones who hate it

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Have you not been reading anything in the thread.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Discord raiders aren't people

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >everyone who doesnt like my game is a discord raider
                meds

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Without the usual cultish devotion or irrational hatred, I think the game squarely falls in the "good" category. A lot depends on your tolerance for cinematics, which the gaming sphere has steadily eroded in the last few years. Very few games try to tell a focused story because no one wants to give cinematics a chance. That's why you have everything from indie games to Elden Ring doling out the story via text dumps and item descriptions. That or there's a blatantly juvenile/appealing concept like dating sims like how it is for Fire Emblem/Persona or a remake/old ass story that's already been told like for FFVII:R/KH3. FFXVI in all respects is a pretty standalone project.

                Telling a story about a completely new world/setting, especially a grimdark medieval fantasy one, requires a masterwork touch in everything in order to capture an audience. As much as I'd hate to say it, it hasn't done it. I don't believe any other developer like Kitase/Nomura/Tabata could have done it better if they were to make a completely new world like CBU3 did. It's incredibly hard to introduce anything new these days, as evidenced by the amount of shitposting around this game.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                I have to agree to disagree with you on the fact that modern gamers don't like stories. Even though tlous2 was not well received, tlous1 is still fondly remembered and the only reason 2 was disliked was because the story was shit, not because it was a main focus. I'd also bring up nugow, but I never played that game so I don't know if it being story driven and a movie game is a Ganker meme or not.

  76. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >buy a new sword from the store
    >put materia on swords
    muh RPG elements

    >unlock abilities on the Eikon board
    NOOOOOO it's action game

  77. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    I keep hearing people complaing about the lack of RPG elements with FFXVI, so what's exactly wrong with it?
    Don't you still level up and learn new skills or magic?
    Can you not equip different weapons/armors/accessories/magic like previous games?

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      There's 3 equipment slots and one of them is literally dedicated to boosting your HP by 1%

  78. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    I think the last straw for me was dumbing down combat for the sake of Normiebux.

    You can still have complexity in an action game.
    >videos of Bombs being attacked by Ifrit/Phoenix skills
    >No actual Team-up Attacks with Jill, Joshua or Cid
    >No Party Mechanics.

    I don't mind not having turn-based, but to tell me that they're taking out Parties and Combination attacks, it's ridiculous, considering both KH and now FF7-Rebirth have them.

  79. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    My favorite part is they made the game 75% cutscenes and 25% hallway simulator with boring battles and they didn't even have an original or decent story to tell. Don't even get me started on the gay shit and troony ayylmao

  80. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >one of the only reviews that doesn't start with 'FFXVI is a masterpiece, it's one of the best games of all time, please don't crucify me, BUT...'
    based for that alone

  81. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Outside it's impressive gameplay and visuals there's nothing else here
    what? I mean outside gameplay, visuals, sound and length what else is there in a game?

  82. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's ok, its not final fantasy though

  83. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    I sincerely hope SMRPG Remaster smokes it, so that it knocks some sense into Yoshi-Piss

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Is it wrong that I’m more excited for Star Ocean 2? I’ve never played a single game from that series but I’ve heard a ton of praise for 2 specifically and I love the concept.

  84. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Not a real ff

  85. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    squeenix want to make movies, not games, it obvious at this point.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Games have cutscenes

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah, I remember when I played Diablo 2 and it had 7 minutes of cutscenes. That's clearly the same as this.

  86. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    how long is it gonna take for ff16 to get cracked? it's the first ff since 6 that i feel like playing.

  87. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    We need to go back to ps1/nintendo 64 days where devs needed to use gameplay to bring people to play and releasing games didn't take a decade

  88. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    bros this game is so shit I might go replay FF7 instead...

  89. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    They're right, its dogshit

  90. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Just wait till Final Fantasy XVII, OP.

  91. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why are people pretending there is any functional RPG system in FF since FFX? XVI got nothing to inherit from, especially from XV. Why are jounalists moron like ShillUp pretending XVI's simplified gear and skill systems while he was shilling for RPG elements from Cyberpunk 2077?

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Even XV let Noctis equip different weapon types and shit

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      cyberpunk is more of an RPG than this game which is really impressive since that game is just Farcry.

  92. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >shillup
    kys.

  93. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >if you ignore all the parts about games that matter this game is actually very lacking
    lmao @ this stupid Black person

  94. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Your ban evading again barry

  95. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    MMO devs = MMO quality = Do not Play
    XVI's massive failure will lead to the MMO team being permanently sent to the MMO ghetto.
    Yoshida will be fired.
    Nomura is taking Full Control.

  96. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    I think his review was really good
    Didnt felt dishonest at all, just his sincere opinion of being disappointed by the route this game took.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      He destroyed the game with valid takes.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >be told numerous times you will be receiving an action rpg
      >get upset when it's an action rpg
      Nope. Guys a moron.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        wheres the rpg

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          Do you play Call of Duty and expect an open world game?

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            answer the question, where's the rpg in the "action rpg"? Is metal gear rising an action rpg?

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              >crafting
              >item collection
              >eikon ability points spending
              >lore gathering
              >side quests
              >so on and so forth
              >inb4 all of these don't count

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                so all the annoying grinding parts of an RPG, but none of the fun parts like making a build, interacting with party members, or playing a role?

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >eikon ability points spending
                The skill tree is the ONLY thing that is an RPG mechanic you listed
                >crafting
                >item collection
                >lore gathering
                >side quests
                Top kek does this make older Asscreed games like AC2 an RPG? Does it make God of War 2018 one? Tears of the Kingdom? Holy frick you have nothing

                >doesn't count

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >eikon ability points spending
                The skill tree is the ONLY thing that is an RPG mechanic you listed
                >crafting
                >item collection
                >lore gathering
                >side quests
                Top kek does this make older Asscreed games like AC2 an RPG? Does it make God of War 2018 one? Tears of the Kingdom? Holy frick you have nothing

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          I don't know probably in the story, the gear and accessories you can equip, the attributes you can level up, the side quests you can do? But this is where you homosexuals go disingenuous and act like you didn't just equip the best in slot gear on characters for 10 games straight and moved along

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Does being an action game also allows devs to have dogshit rpg mechanics? if they wanted to be an action game, why are they there? shouldnt they also be criticized?

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          >dogshit rpg mechanics
          There is literally none kek

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            So you didnt play the game, thanks for the confirmation. Wont lose my time with you.

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              >Wont lose my time with you.
              ESL

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              But theres no RPG mechanics. Coping wont stop the fact that its not an RPG

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Then your moronic pet dev should've said that from the start. he deserves all the backlash he's getting.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Backlash
                Handful of reviewers saying something is bad isn't a backlash.
                Game was marketed as Action Story Driven RPG mainly, people are right to be mad when they didn't get proper RPG mechanics but the game delivers on Action and somewhat story (I'm getting whiplash from how fast good story beat turns into mediocre one and vice versa)

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Bro, everyone is talking how the setpieces and combat make this game good, everything around the story is destroyed and the exploration/quests arent good. You need to stop lying to yourself.
                This game is as good as a dmc if you want to hit things, not a ff.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Actually people think the combat is boring as well. Look it up homosexual.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Bro, everyone is talking how the setpieces and combat make this game good, everything around the story is destroyed and the exploration/quests arent good. You need to stop lying to yourself.
                >This game is as good as a dmc if you want to hit things, not a ff.
                /thread

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Everyone
                I'm yet to see someone not on Ganker say that the story is truly dogshit, the worst I heard is that it's serviceable at best.
                But shit you can keep pretending Ganker knows the best

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Sure, everyone here is lying and everyone outside here is a doomer journo
                You only trust your friends who play 14, right?

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Brings 14 out of nowhere
                You have no arguments outside assuming I'm a 14gay?

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Not really, but your point is the most non argument ever.
                There is clearly tons of criticism around narrative aspects of this game outside of here. And you are coping a lot if you deny that.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Nah anon. The only good journos and reviews are the ones who gave this game a 10.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                multiple positive reviews mention the protagonist and story as negatives.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Ryota Suzuki carrying this game harder than Noah.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yoship went to PAX west to talk how the game would have rpg mechanics, didnt present shit
        And told there were plenty of them
        At the end of the day they had plenty of garbage.

  97. 11 months ago
    Anonymous
  98. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    who the frick is Barry and why is everyone who critcizes this game being called him?

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      t. Barry.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's just shill talking points. They've been flooding every critical thread with it for months now.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >pretending you don't know
      If you don't know who barry is go back. You have no idea where you even are. Barry is more integral a part of Ganker than meme arrows and just as sold.

  99. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    He's right

  100. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    God I have never seen a shill campaign defend a game as hard as FFXVI its fricking incredible

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >People who have PS5s and are playing the game
      >Yeah it's... all right
      >People who don't have PS5s but defend XVI like it was their fricking child
      >IT'S LITERALLY 9/10 AT THE VERY LEAST NO I HAVEN'T PLAYED IT JUST TRUST ME
      I've honestly never seen anything like this. I have the game. First 6 or so hours are good. It gets off the rails jist before dies Cid dies. It has been complete dogshit ass since Clive hit his 30s. Meanwhile these YouTube watchers are kneeling at its feet.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        The XIV cultist phenomenon is one of the strongest in gaming, especially on this board. It probably has the single most mentally ill player-base of any game in history.

  101. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    is the plot at least less boring than 12 and 13?

  102. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    I just don't understand why rip off western garbage like Game of Thrones. Like you have such a diverse franchise like FF, with original settings and fantasy concepts but you go and ape western shit? Why, explain the thought process
    I don't even like FF14 but even that game has a much more FF and Japanese vibe to it than XVI

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Westaboos like ripping off western stuff, Kojima did it for over 40 years and got away with it

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Kojima did it tastefully, at least for the first few games.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Kojima was always a massive westaboo, but even in his westaboo games he still had quirky very clearly Japanese humor/gags sprinkled in, and MGS was an original franchise. FF despite being inspired by more traditional western fantasy still had a strong identity, but FF16 just sorely seems to lack one and instead really just feels like they wanted to make some shitty GoT ripoff with an FF skin to me.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          why the frick didn't they just go all in that case
          >dialogue options
          >skill trees and perks
          >optional dungeons
          >more detailed side quests
          >etc etc

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            Because westernizing Japanese IPs is bad and I don't want that to happen

  103. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Are there any side quests that lead into anything important besides the + mark ones and anything to wrap up loose ends?

  104. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Bros? What are RPG elements?

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Whatever I want

  105. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >outside of good gameplay
    its a videogame, what else does it need?

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      12+ hours of literal movies, apparently.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        there is like 3 gay sex cutscenes already

  106. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Skillup likes the writing
    >It's easily the worst part
    Speaking of did Matsuno write for FFXVI? The guy's great at coming up with ideas and concepts for characters and scenarios, but ask him to write them to speak and interact as much as an mainline FF character and you get FFXII where the writing shows cracks if he even manages to finish at all. I like FFT as much as the next guy but Ramza never actually speaks that much and pretty much all of his development is finalized before chapter the end of chapter 2.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Maehiro did, who was Matsuno's typewriting monkey for FFT, Vagrant Story, and 12.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      The dialogue in XVI is fine for the most part. It's the ambling narrative overhead that fricks everything up.
      >Clive. My god. You defeated Garuda. You've awakened Ifrit. You are a dominant, Clive. A dominant! A 1 in 1,000,0000,000,000 curse/blessing has befallen you
      >Now go collect three samples of soil by holding X and bring it back to this merchant who has no bearing on the plot at all.
      Clive isn't at fault here. Neither are Cid, Jill, Hugo or others (Barnabas DOES fricking suck, though). It's just the plotting and pacing of main events is fricking awful and drags the whole thing down.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        >The dialogue in XVI is fine for the most part.
        FRICK FRICK FRICK FRICK FRICK FRICK FRICK!!!!!

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          Minus that.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          >character under duress while dodging boulders blurts obscenities
          That's sensible. But you're a tendie who only knows sterilized mutes, so I understand your distress.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            >defends forspoken level dialogue
            I don't own a nintendo console homosexual. Try again.

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              >He played Forspoken
              Sucks for you. Again, XVI's dialogue is completely fine.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        . My god. You defeated Garuda. You've awakened Ifrit. You are a dominant, Clive. A dominant! A 1 in 1,000,0000,000,000 curse/blessing has befallen you
        >>Now go collect three samples of soil by holding X and bring it back to this merchant who has no bearing on the plot at all
        Sounds like jrpg

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Sounds
          Cool. Now go actually play it. It sucks and only gets worse. XIII and XV were both better than this.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            40% in, it is indeed full of jrpg tropes

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          No anon, this very specific idea of jrpg is the true jrpg and what FFXVI should have been when they announced it years ago to be an action orientated game. Yoshi-P should have went into my computer and tunneled into my brain via my headphones to extract the jrpg formula to make the newest final fantasy.

          No I'm not a fan of Dragon Quest.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          The dialogue in XVI is fine for the most part. It's the ambling narrative overhead that fricks everything up.
          >Clive. My god. You defeated Garuda. You've awakened Ifrit. You are a dominant, Clive. A dominant! A 1 in 1,000,0000,000,000 curse/blessing has befallen you
          >Now go collect three samples of soil by holding X and bring it back to this merchant who has no bearing on the plot at all.
          Clive isn't at fault here. Neither are Cid, Jill, Hugo or others (Barnabas DOES fricking suck, though). It's just the plotting and pacing of main events is fricking awful and drags the whole thing down.

          I mean to be fair in the context of that particular side quest Clive goes there to help the girl collecting dirt because she might be in danger, and then after he kills the monsters he offers to gather the dirt himself because he can look after himself. No one ever actually made him collect dirt, possibly the worst example of all the side quests to pick.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Aight Clive we need to break into this place to do this thing
            >Holy shit Cid sounds awesome let's do it
            >but first go talk to my prostitute hooker friend
            >what
            >and help her find her dead hooked employee
            >why
            >but first talk to 2 or so random fricking NPCs to gather intel
            >what the frick
            >okay now walk over here to find the dead girl and her comb
            >who wrote this
            >haha ok NOW let's get back to the main plot!
            They just get longer, more meandering and worse. The actual main storybeats are fun, and the boss fights are great, but everything in between is awful, and there's more of that shit than the actual story. This is a 20 hour action game drawn thin to a shitty 50 hour beat em up masquerading as an RPG.

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              Yeah, the sidequests are the worst fetch quest shit you can imagine, and half of the main quest are side quests but red.
              Could have been a killer ~15 hours action game.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                are the sidequests optional?

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                yes

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                then why people are so upset about them, they seem only to serve as world building events rather than quests

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >hen why people are so upset about them
                where the frick do you think we are

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Autism

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Shitposting material, even though FF7:R's sidequests were even more egregious given the scope of the original game.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                haven't played 7R, but there's a reason why they are called Sidequets.
                do people only want to collect bear asses in their quests?

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Sidequests have rarely ever been good in FF games.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                i can't think on a single game were the majority of the sidequests were exceptionally writen

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                FNV?

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Yes, usually that's the case. I think Divinity 2? had strong side quests but overall throughout the FF franchise, I can only think of FFX's summoner sidequest where some lady tests Yuna out. And the optional summons you get in alot of Final Fantasy games tend to have pretty cool side content attached to them. Or stuff like getting the best weapons/armor and the like.

                That being said, FFXVI's strongest side quests are in its later stages. They're highly dependent on how invested you are into the world at that point though.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Because this game has been shilled nonstop for months and everyone is throwing every terrible design choice in this shitty game in their faces. Completely justifiably.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >shilled nonstop for months
                Not on Ganker. I don't remember a single positive thread about this game until the demo released

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                The actual side quests are, but half of the main story has the same low quality as them because it's shit with zero thought put into its design just to pad the game's length.
                Do you know when the main quest is hanging between two important events and you leave the marked NPC there waiting while you go around doing meaningless sidequests? Make them mandatory and that's 16's main story progression. Sidequests make you waste even more time with low quality crap, but ignoring them won't save you from having to do meaningless tasks between actual levels.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Holy shit it's FFXIV all over again.

                >shilled nonstop for months
                Not on Ganker. I don't remember a single positive thread about this game until the demo released

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Yes. But the point here is there is mandatory busy work to be done between the actual meat of the story that are essentially side quests in nature. They have tenuous connections to the main story but could easily have been written out. They're filler. Imagine an album with 10 solid tracks. But the band decides they need a 20 track album so they add an additional 10 songs that suck ass. And to get to the good songs you have to listen to every song in order. That's how XVI is. Amazingly high highs that last roughly 30 minutes followed by agonizingly shitty 3 hour (or longer) snore fests of walking back and forth talking to NPCs.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >this whole post
                yeah, exactly, optional, filler, call it whatever you like, you can freely ignore them

                The actual side quests are, but half of the main story has the same low quality as them because it's shit with zero thought put into its design just to pad the game's length.
                Do you know when the main quest is hanging between two important events and you leave the marked NPC there waiting while you go around doing meaningless sidequests? Make them mandatory and that's 16's main story progression. Sidequests make you waste even more time with low quality crap, but ignoring them won't save you from having to do meaningless tasks between actual levels.

                probably a pacing issue, but people expecting that every quest needs to be hyper important and always be an endless crescendo till the climax, is unrealistic for the story the game is trying to tell

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >you can freely ignore them
                No, you fricking can't, dumbass, as everybody playing the game has already told you.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                so, are they optional or not, as I asked before

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                to put it in ffxiv terms, there are sidequests that are still part of the msq, and then there are sidequests. Both are terrible.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                that's not how sidequests work on XIV tho

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                it is. There are so many bullshit fetch quests in the msq.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >As I asked before
                And were answered, you illiterate moron. Is "No you fricking can't" too difficult to grasp?

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >are side quests optional?
                >yes
                >so what's the big deal?
                >they are mandatory
                >okay, which is it?
                >they are both optional and mandatory

                SHROEDINGER SEETHE

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Side quests are optional, but half of the main quest has the same quality and design as them, it's not that hard to understand.
                If the side quests were good, then half of the main story being the same quality as them wouldn't be an issue.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Hence why I was especifically asking about the sidequests
                you can't expect that every main quest is a 10/10
                that would be a nightmare

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                jesus christ

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Whoa, did more than one person respond to my post?
                >I bet that was just one person though, let me act moronic on purpose
                What are you trying to achieve you oboxious queen? The game has too much filler and the filler are sidequests shoved mandatorily into the main story. You've had this said to you multiple times already.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                They're expecting actual design. Final Fantasy XV would ask you to collect some equally meaningless item in a sidequest, but to get that item you enter an entirely optional dungeon with unique level design, shortcuts to unlock and all that crap. You then get the meaningless item and go back for your reward. FFXVI will ask you to grab a meaningless item, and all you have to do is hold forward until you reach the marked place and then hold X.
                Both meaningless tasks with no importance to the plot, but only one of them has actual level design.
                And that's FFXV, for frick's sake, I'm not even comparing it to a good game.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                yeah, that's bullshit, that game was awful
                the quests felt like playing wow classic

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                I kind of doubt the amazingly high highs part but yes.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Clive facing his inner demons and telling Ifrit to get rekt
                >Beating up Typhon
                >Clive telling Hugo that he killed Benedikta and he isn't apologizing for shit before they fight to the death in a throne room
                Honestly some of the best stuff from FF. Followed by some of the worst. Everything related to the eikons is great.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          The fact that people are defending FFXVI's JRPG status by claiming it has the worst conventions of them and none of their strengths should tell you that FFXVI has some direction issues.
          The way I see it, most games start from one of three places
          Gameplay first, Story first or storytelling first.
          I don't consider RPGs to be story-first. That's more for the realm of Visual Novels and Visual-novel adjacent genres.
          I look at RPGs as being storytelling first and all I ask is for you to think about what kind of story you want to tell and build gameplay systems that express that.
          The biggest issue of AAA games is the basically full split between gameplay and story, even if the two halves are good. The more ambitious you are with your story, I expect you to either make a VN (could even be a AAA VN like Detroit) or to figure out how to use your gameplay the way a film director and cinematographer use the shooting and editing process to express the story of a screenplay.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            Your framework is lacking, but is a decent start.
            Art-first is what JRPGs are. Similar to games like Myst.
            One can further break this down into: Visual Art-based JRPGs and Music-based JRPGs.
            FF is the rare music and visual art based JRPG when it is at its best.
            XVI is a divergence as it has poor visual art and mediocre music.

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              His framework is better than yours tbh. He's talking about something core to the genre which is story, you're talking about surface level presentation things.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Anon...the majority of FF7 and FF8's story is told through the visual art. The writing does very little. As with many other games.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        >People made Clive collect samples of dirt
        More like he decided to pick it up himself because it was safer than leaving the girl to the monsters.

  107. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >rpg Black folk complaining this action rpg doesnt have enough numbers to make their lizard brain release dopamine
    Christ, you morons need a detox to remind yourself video games are supposed to be more then menu navigation.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      what a laughable strawman

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >video games are supposed to be more then menu navigation.
      yeah, stupid morons. everyone knows video games are supposed to be overwhelmed with terrible movies where you set your controller down for an hour at a time.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      You do realize FF is literally an RPG series you fricking braindead moron

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      People are complaining that the action is lacking too homosexual.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Except everyone praises the combat and story. The only complaints I've seen anyone have is there isnt enough Black person races and there isn't enough 'rpg mechanics' which just means spending way too much time in menus.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Except everyone praises the combat and story.
          You must have some very fricking selective reading. Or you're just moronic.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          Some people are complaining about the story, but its always very arbitrary. Im 60% in, so I cant comment on that yet. Combat is mostly people that dont know how to play, game isnt hard but Im sure it must be very boring if you are shit at it. The people that actually have valid criticism for the gameplay have specific complains (like the shitty lock on)

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          Did you miss all the complaints about the combat being too easy?

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Except everyone praises the combat
          There are numerous complains that it's too shallow and easy
          >and story
          Lmao
          >'rpg mechanics' which just means spending way too much time in menus.
          Action games have incorporated RPG mechanics for decades without resorting menu combat.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          >and story
          And presentation
          The story itself devolves in the last quarter of the game
          It's also got too many cutscenes given how little there is to do outside of the story
          None of the side quests are remotely interesting from a lore or even gameplay view. There's really nothing to explore and find.
          I'll put it another way. IF you gave me a game that was the entirety of Game of Thrones, with episodes stitched together and occasionally you got to fight stuff with DMCV combat, I would not give that game a pass.
          Giving me Citizen Kane with 10 minutes of Titanfall gameplay sprinkled in, that does not mean I'm just going to average the scores of those two things and say it's that good.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Spending too much time on Ganker. Ganker also said Elden Ring and BotW
        was shit for ages, doesn't change the true reality.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          I mean Elden Ring was literally just Dark Souls 3.5

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >rpg Black folk complaining this action rpg doesnt have enough numbers
      no, the game has plenty of dopamine numbers flying all over the screen at all times. what people are complaining about are the dogshit rpg mechanics.

  108. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    16 sounds boring to be honest from what I've heard. People saying that over half your play time is spent watching cutscenes.

  109. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'm yet to reach a part where the story is truly dogshit. Just killed sleipnier and I still think that story is just okay with good ups.
    So far it's 8/10.

  110. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Im having fun so I win, schizos and doomers can get fricked in the ass by BBC (Big Bearer wiener)

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      To be far, the one coping right now is yoship, he said that his biggest worry was the story lol

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        >To be far, the one coping right now is yoship, he said that his biggest worry was the story lol
        R.I.P

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        He said he was proud of the story, makes all this even worse.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        >To be far, the one coping right now is yoship, he said that his biggest worry was the story lol
        And now the game is regarded as "it fricked up the narrative"
        Grim

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      based video game enjoyer

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        I am enjoying Forspoken right now, schizos and doomers lose.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          Again, based video game enjoyer. I wish more people enjoyed games rather then spending time online hating them

  111. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Paper Mario is literally way more of an RPG than FFXVI

    How the frick is that even possible?

  112. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >way too many cutscenes
    >bad story that just gets worse as it goes on
    >terrible side quests
    >extremely linear tunnel gameplay
    >way too easy even without accessories
    >boring shallow combat
    >no rpg elements at all
    >troony ayy lmao
    >gay normalization agenda
    GoTY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  113. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    like 20% of the thread has even played the game

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      This kek, if you'd read between the lines I bet you'll find many nintendtrannies and PC gays that seethe that this game isn't out on their precious platform.
      It's ok though, the game has garnered enough good media for it to sell enough fot Square to make a profit

  114. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >final fantasy tries something new
    WAHHHHH WHERE IS MY BORING MENU NAVIGATION SIMULATOR
    >final fantasy does the same old thing they always do
    YAWN, THESE MECHANICS ARE 20 YEARS OUT OF DATE.

    You can't win with these Black folk.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Final Fantasy as a series has built it's reputation on being willing to innovate and experiment. No one is mad at that. The problem is it isn't fun.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >YAWN, THESE MECHANICS ARE 20 YEARS OUT OF DATE.
      Funny how you say that when a big part of the skill up review WAS how many of the mechanics in the game were outdated

  115. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    FF threads continue to be the worst threads on Ganker by far, both the haters and the fans are moronic and salty as frick

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Of all the videogame franchises, FF attract the most autistic ones apparently

  116. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'm glad that people are waking up to who Yoshi-P truly is.
    He is Japanese Todd Howard, made a good game and is generally approachable which caused shills to hype him up as someone who really "gets it" before realizing that, yeah, he's literally a good marketing guy.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >made a good game
      Where?

  117. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >I really want to love this game, I just don't
    I've seen this comment a lot. Oof.

  118. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    I understand getting rid of RPG mechanics, but from what I hear the game is very lonely, and you're pretty much just fighting solo or doing quests alone as clive the whole time, or watching cut scenes. If I just wanted a character action game I would play bayonetta, DMC, sekiro, or whatever. I haven't played any final fantasy games before, but I thought the whole point was being part of a team of characters that all have different strengths and weaknesses.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >but I thought the whole point was being part of a team of characters that all have different strengths and weaknesses.
      yes the point of it is the group nature of it
      without a party it becomes like any other AAA westslop bullshit

  119. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    I feel like most of the people defending the lack of RPG mechanics are people who have never cared about the series pre XV in the first place

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      XIV fans. that's what we're dealing with. it's a fight/war between the MMO fans and the actual fans

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      If you actually played X, XII, XIII, XV, strangers of paradise, VII:R the writing was on the wall.

      I'm disappointed but I'm not confused about what the game is like the OP reviewer seems to be. Why be surprised that an action game is primarily an action game? Don't buy the game if you don't want to play an action game. If you think the franchise hasn't been moving towards action, you haven't been paying attention.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Don't buy the game if you don't want to play an action game
        He's a game reviewer, part of his job is reviewing the most popular releases so that people click on his videos.
        If people only reviewed the games they like, games would get nothing but 10/10s, or close

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          A reviewer who's played DMC/Bayonetta/MGR would be way more qualified to comment on the game's combat than someone who button mashes their way to victory. A layman's perspective is valuable but it's definitely not as valuable as an experienced player. A person should play multiple FPS games before being qualified to review FPS games, otherwise you get a reviewer like the guy who reviewed Doom Eternal. It's common sense.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            A layman's perspective can be even more valuable when one of the layman's biggest criticisms is that the game he supposedly doesn't even know how to play is too easy.

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              A lot of games don't require you to master it to beat. Action games by nature are much harder to acclimate to than your average fps/rpg. Asking someone to do perfectly at it is unreasonable, hence why they made those accessories and tuned the combat for the lowest common denominator.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Nobody is asking for the game to demand perfection, people are asking for a hard mode that doesn't take dozens of hours to unlock. Much like how the moron journalist mode is optional, so would be this hard mode.
                And wasn't the initial point that apparently this reviewer is part of the lowest common denominator? Well, he still thinks it's too easy. Clearly they didn't tune it very well.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Even this reviewer might have played KH at some point. Lowest common denominator is like the person who played Cuphead. There is a definite floor to the skill of the average player who's never touched an action game in their life, and that's what the difficulty is tuned for.

                Everyone agrees that locking Hard Mode behind NG+ is moronic though.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        The issue is that it doesn't feel like a good action game, as well as a good RPG. It's flashy sure, but there isn't enough there for it to be a compelling action game. Not to mention, the lack of feedback when fighting bosses/minibosses makes hits feel like shit. Stranger of Paradise is both a better character-action game and a better rpg even when it' not trying to be a character action game lol.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >I feel like most of the people defending the lack of RPG mechanics
      it's the ff14 players/YoshiP cultists. ff14 doesn't have any rpg mechanics either, so it's what they've come to expect.

  120. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Half the posts in this thread have this phrases
    >I've heard
    >it seems
    >I've read
    You arent playing the game Black folk, who cares about your opinion?

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >buying a piss5 to play one bad game

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        a piss5 to play one bad game
        >deciding that it's a bad game even though you did not play it while additionally ignoring it's critical acclaim
        kek, you homosexuals just come to this threads to take your anger off at this game , don't you?

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          ok dude, game on.
          I played the demo, including Eikonic challenge. the whole thing felt terrible. the camera is shitty. the combat is floaty and somehow feels too slow. having dodge on R1 is fricking moronic. should I go on

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            >the camera is shitty.
            True, but the same can be said for many other action games. still doesn't hurt the experience as a whole
            >the combat is floaty and somehow feels too slow.
            Black person it's the fricking demo, what did you expect? it gets much faster as you progress the game and unlock more tools
            >having dodge on R1 is fricking moronic.
            You do realize that there is a layout that swaps that around , right? The game literally asks you which layout you'd be comfortable playing in
            >should I go on
            Please do

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              the music is actual hot garbage, AI generated Uematsu shit
              the story has cringeworthy anime bullshit like pic related
              it's literally designed to be autowon, with autowin accessories ffs

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >cringe worthy anime bullshit
                is this your first FF game?

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >the music is actual hot garbage, AI generated Uematsu shit
                YOU HAVE ONLY PLAYED THE DEMO
                It has a pretty good soundtrack overall, with some banger tracks at the climaxes of the story. but then again you wouldn't know, since you haven't played the game.
                >the story has cringeworthy anime bullshit like pic related
                I disagree, it's literally peak fantasy, whether it's good or not is for you to judge, but it's not anime-like by any means.
                >it's literally designed to be autowon, with autowin accessories ffs
                moronic argument, it's your choice whether you want to play the game or let it play itself.

                You're just hating on a game you haven't played, typical Gankertard

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >YOU HAVE ONLY PLAYED THE DEMO
                OK you tell me
                does the music massively change style, influence, sound color as you go through the game?
                go ahead Mr fricking expert

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >does the music massively change style, influence, sound color as you go through the game?
                It's medival typical FF music with some Techno sometimes sprinkled into it , the music is not a problem with this game
                > go ahead Mr fricking expert
                Nice projection moron, play the game past the demo and then vehemently hate on it

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                so your answer is NO. the music doesn't change. and you're fricking wrong, this is a series where EVERY entry had a MASSIVE fricking effort committed to incredible music.
                frick dude listen to these

                the fricking Stravinsky'an orchestration, referencing fricking folk dances.
                NAME ONE FRICKING TRACK IN XVI LIKE THIS.
                You fricking MORON.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >where EVERY entry had a MASSIVE fricking effort committed to incredible music.
                you can't seriously believe this lol

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Holy shit, you might be the most moronic anon I've ever seen here.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                This game is a fantasy epic you fricking moron, with a theme that is much darker than your average FF game
                If you genuinely tell me this is not a good track you're a fricking tasteless moron, but it's not worth engaging a moron like you who spends his breath hating on a game that he didn't play

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Dark doesnt mean good
                When you get older you will understand that. This need of approval is silly.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Dark doesnt mean good
                That is not what I argued, what I meant was that since it's a darker themed game, it's expected that it will have themes that are darker in nature, which is percisely the case

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                OH WOW
                FRICKING MIND BLOWING
                A FRICKING STRING OSTINATO OVER BOOMING LOW BRASS
                COULDN'T POSSIBLY HAVE BEEN DONE BETTER IN ANY OTHER TITLE

                OH FRICKING WAIT

                WHAT DO YOU KNOW. COMPLETELY FRICKING OUTDONE BY TALENT.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            Im having fun
            Check mate, homosexual

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          I mean there's RE4R, Hi Fi Rush, TOTK, Pizza Tower, Star Wars, Street Fighter 6, Hogwarts Legacy and a ton of games past june like Armored Core 6, Pikmin, Mortal Kombat etc etc

          Why would people care about a very average game like FFXVI? I think the reason why people here are so against it is because people are frustrated about the direction the series the game took over just one single meh exclusive thats starting to get some negative reviews

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            I agree with you but every game you listed is also shit.

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              >all those games are shit
              >but FFXVI is amazing and everyone is jealous of playstation for having FFXVI
              ????

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >terrible reading comprehension

  121. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Here's the thing with action game youtubers that gave their impression on the game 2 months ago. I am in a discord server with some of them, they genuinely thought that the base of the gameplay is good back then, but also that since this is a much longer game; they would find a way to mix up/add far more moves to Clive over the story, beyond just Eikon abilities.

  122. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    I BOUGHT A PS5 FOR THIS?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!??!?!

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yes I bought a PS5 for this. And I'm having a terrific time.

  123. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Suddenly ALIENS
    I never thought FFIX's final "Twist" would be surpassed by an even shitter twist but here we are

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      ALIENS
      why do Japs pull this shit so much?

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        This show was utter garbage

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          just like FF16

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Easy way to flip off the current problem into: ACTUALLY theres a bigger threat that needs to be stopped.
        You see this in almost every jrpg in the form of aliens, gods, dimensional beings...

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >suddenly Cloud of Darkness
      >suddenly Zeromus
      >suddenly Necron

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        This, also the "twist" of XVI was pretty obvious to see with anyone with a braincell.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      You're saying this like if half of the fricking games in the series didn't do suddenly x as their big twist

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        At least those other games weren't pretending to be a serious medieval fantasy

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        It wasn't sudden in any of them, really. For example, Jenova was present in the first 6 hours of FF7. And when you find out she's from space (also in the first disk), it's pretty nonchalant.

  124. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    People... Le die!?

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Poor dude had to see 10 dogshit quests to find one good for the video.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Poor dude had to see 10 dogshit quests to find one good for the video.

      it's asmongold, a WoW player. who is shocked by this

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Asmongold is a veteran at milking FF14 players. Looks like he found a way to do it without even playing FF14 lmao.

  125. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Ganker told me that XIV was awful, they were wrong
    Ganker told me that Stray is a game for morons, they were wrong
    Ganker told me that that FFVIIR is worse than the original in every single aspect, they were wrong
    Ganker told me that MHR is only good as a coomer game after mods, they were wrong
    Ganker told me that Death Stranding was just the "wow so d33p" last bowel movement of kojima, they were wrong
    Ganker told me that MK11 is so bad, you'll wish you were playing MK deception, they were wrong
    Ganker told me that Elden Ring was inferior to every other FromSoft game, they were wrong
    Ganker told me that RE4:R was gonna be shit, they were wrong
    Ganker told me that SF6 was going to be boring and pozzed, they were wrong
    Ganker told me that TOTK was worse than BOTW, they were wrong
    Ganker told me that GOW:R was garbage, they were wrong

    I'm starting to se a pattern here

  126. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    boss hyper armor is the worst thing to have ever happened to video games

  127. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    so is it PS5gays or FFgays who are getting touchy about anything negative ITT?

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      I am both a PS5 owner and a FFgay. I skipped XVI, although I did give the demo a chance.

      FF fans in general don't care much for this game. Most of the general FF forums don't talk about it much.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Probably the guys who talked as if this team was perfect at the start. They are getting a reality shock.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      The former because they finally have one game that isn't shovelware tier or a remake

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Isn't it also the first retail exclusive the PS5 has had in literal years?

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          6 months timed exclusive with a 22fps average, troony aliens and gay scenes to be precise.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      its been said a few times, it's the MMO fans who worship Naoki Yoshida and the dev team.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Probably FFgays, the real question is whose are the gays that getting extremely pissed about the game. Not liking the story, rpg elements, combat, etc is fine, but who're the people getting mad that a final fantasy game has a lot of cutscenes?

  128. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Hey look, bump limit hit, suddenly shills are gone. How interesting and unexpected.

  129. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'm like halfway through the game and Clive's uncle is the first and only character that actually feels fun to watch and he's nobody

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