>black fanbase
That's all battle shounen, isn't it? Perusing the Ganker threads should be enough to inform you, but if that doesn't do it, just look the series up on YouTube.
They are shit. Not tactics or strategy in it. Stuff just randomly happens and the power system makes no fricking sense.
>Stuff just randomly happens and the power system makes no fricking sense
So, less Hunter x Hunter and more Yu Yu Hakusho.
Muh tactics isn't the only thing that makes a manga fight good. Gege's style is good at combining dynamic physical combat with mindfricky reality-bending shit and it flows well. His style is quite distinctive so not for everyone but if you dig it you dig it.
>try to get into JJK >favorite character 1 dies >favorite character 2 dies >mexican friend then tells me another character I like will die
what started this trend of killing the good characters in your shounen? I remember chainsaw man doing this too
I dont know, but its the one thing that seriously pisses me off about this series. besides the fact that sometimes the curse powers get a little convoluted for newer characters, the killing off of great characters seems like the author wants to tank their own project. isnit even necessary to the plot in some cases? Or is it just to torture the shit out of yuji?
I dont know, but its the one thing that seriously pisses me off about this series. besides the fact that sometimes the curse powers get a little convoluted for newer characters, the killing off of great characters seems like the author wants to tank their own project. isnit even necessary to the plot in some cases? Or is it just to torture the shit out of yuji?
there's too many stakes. imagine murdering your top popular character like Gojo, and nanami, and megumi getting body snatched, literal top 3 main character kugisaki, I mean people just keep dying. Gojo is too far imo
isnt gojo like the single strongest character too? How the frick did that guy die?
6 months ago
Anonymous
He didn't, he's using a technique to make it look like he died so he can surprise attack Sukuna.
6 months ago
Anonymous
You know how he said he could beat full power Sukuna?
Well, he was bullshitting and he only said that cause he really wanted to fight the strongest of all time.
6 months ago
Anonymous
He could beat a full power Sukuna with mahoga
6 months ago
Anonymous
>Beat Full power sukuna
Gojo himself said sukune didnt go all-out against him.
>It's called having stakes
It's a story, though. One Piece is famous for not killing anyone and Dragon Ball is famous for anyone being able to wish people back to life if they die. Are these series more popular than One Piece and Dragon Ball? I don't think this "stakes" shit is as important as you think it is.
Imagine if at the end of the Tortoise and the Hare, the Tortoise kills the Hare. Does that make the story better? Maybe if you're an edgy 13-year old, but most people would say no. It actually feels kinda' bad because now that character's just done with. And before you say it's realistic, realism also doesn't matter.
24 did it a decade before Game of Thrones.
>24 did it a decade before Game of Thrones
I can't tell if you're baiting or not.
One Piece is good. I have no comment for Dragon Ball.
>He could also just not do that
True, but he had to since he was being blackmailed, so he had to take care of Josuke >You can't attack him. He can just walk up to you and shoot you. You can do nothing.
Only if you're not a stand user >There's nothing that says when calamity will strike or how hard it will strike or what counts as pursuing.
Did you not pay attention how calamity got worse as Josuke's friends tried pursue more and more? >Mitsuba simply notices the doctor and this causes her to accidentally cut her fingers off.
Because she probably thought of following him since it's weird for someone like him in the estate >Kei walks into his room and has Josuke trigger her Stand with the intent of helping him fight whoever his opponent is, and this gets her brained. Joshu raises a hand to him and a random leaf slices off his finger.
Because they tried go against Tooru >Yasuho calls Kei and asks her to go fight him and this causes an airplane door to fall off and go plummeting towards her, with the intent of hitting her in like 5 minutes.
She was warned by Tooru that if she tried to go against him, the order of calamity will shift to her being the primary target >Sometimes it stops the pursuit, sometimes it retaliates. Sometimes it kills, sometimes it just inconveniences.
Yes, that's nature of of the ability, the more you try pursue, the more dangerous the calamity gets >There's no rhyme or reason for it.
There is >At the end, Kaato traps him and touches his face, her reasoning is she isn't threatening him, but most people weren't threatening him.
She still got axed
>he had to since he was being blackmailed
Which is another example of "pursuit" being author fiat. Josuke obviously intended for the letter to cause Wonder of U to come to him. Why is that not considered pursuing, but Mitsuba just looking at him and wondering why he's there is? >Only if you're not a stand user
You can shoot a Stand user, anon, some Stand users use guns to fight. Not every Stand is Star Platinum. >Did you not pay attention how calamity got worse as Josuke's friends tried pursue more and more?
Several of them got killed their first time, while Josuke got hit like a dozen times and each time wasn't worse than the last. I'm pretty sure the card and rain bullets were worse than everything that happened in the hospital. >she probably thought of following him
And the Stand stopped her dead in her tracks. Meanwhile, Yasuho was able to complete two phone call conversations interrupted by an argument with Tooru. >Because they tried go against Tooru
Yes, but there's no rhyme or reason to the severity or expediency of calamity. It's whatever Araki wants on a moment by moment basis. That's what this entire conversation is about that we're having right now. Hello? Are you okay? >the order of calamity will shift to her being the primary target
Yeah, which is a completely redundant comment. Anyone who pursues him is immediately jumped "to the top of the list" and swatted down. The comment makes it sound like there's some kind of priority involved, like he only attacks one person at a time or people might have calamity delayed because there's greater offenders to get to first. This is false. You pursue, you get fricked. There is no list. There is no need for a list. >the more you try pursue, the more dangerous the calamity gets
Josuke spends the entire fight pursuing him but characters who pursue him once, indirectly, get murdered. >She still got axed
After throwing a troony at him.
6 months ago
Anonymous
>Josuke obviously intended for the letter to cause Wonder of U to come to him. Why is that not considered pursuing
Because he stopped the act of pursuing him and let someone else do it for him. He didn't need to do anything but wait >You can shoot a Stand user, anon, some Stand users use guns to fight.
Are you complaining that a stand is so powerful that it can kill you instantly without being able to counter it? I guess The World 's time stop ability is bad because of that >After throwing a troony at him.
So what? She still got fatally injured and died
But yeah, Wonder of U is inconsistent because of the damage severity, though the only justification for that I can think of is that it said calamity is unpredictable.
Still, at least the ability itself is more consistent than something like Gold Experience
>Araki only does that at the end of an entire manga
Not really, plenty of characters die over halfway through manga and before the final arc. That anon was talking about killing favorite characters in general
Kill off a character only when it benefits the story and concludes the character arc of said character and only after you gave them enough screen time. Nanami was the only ok death, every other death felt either cheap because it was a character who dies in the same arc that he get's introduced or unsatisfying because the character never really did anything in the story and wasn't fleshed out
They put hundreds of children to fight against psychopaths and none of them die, and then some pro hero that wasn't even fighting dies off screen, that's the problem, no stake at all for the kids and some forced shit for pros
Literally Naruto for zoomers >mc is a guy with a powerful beast sealed inside him >edgy dark haired strong partner but will never be strong as mc >obligatory useless girl >op teacher with a mask and magical hax eyes
You only have this and Demon Slayer (and Chainsw Man but it flopped) this generation of battle shonens, it is not that it has some massive appeal its just that there isnt literally anything else.
I keep asking people this and everyone dances around the question, but are those three really battle shounen? From faraway they look more like One Punch Man or Fullmetal Alchemist.
style is the same, we literally haven't seen it in motion. it will be more detailed since mappa is only having to do a movie and not a full season of anime
director has changed because fujimoto is a film nerd and obviously had someone specifically picked out to fill the position of Guy Who Directs The Chainsaw Man Movie. it wont be bad because fujimoto wouldnt want to watch a bad CSM movie
It's Bleanch and HxH love baby.
It takes "rule of cools" and a fights based plot and mix it with "complex" (lol) powers and high stakes.
The anime also hard carried this shit, most fight dont have any right to look this good.
They actually kill the damn characters instead of everyone surviving till the end and then killing someone for cheap emotional sendoff harry potter style
>instead of everyone surviving till the end and then killing someone for cheap emotional sendoff
Yeah, instead they skip to the cheap emotional send off
>They actually kill the damn characters instead of everyone surviving
It's just people sperging about "I wish more people died in this other children's series", made into a show without good depth, substance, or world-building.
It resulted in cool fight scenes and slop.
You frickers should've just read Gantz and gotten over your edgy phase.
The issue with JJK is that it kills off everyone willy-nilly and fails to replace them with compelling characters so the current cast in the manga is boring as shit save for Higuruma who's probably the next on the chopping block
It's basically the type of Shonen a 14 year old would write in response to other Shonen not doing things the "right" way. For example, it's clear the treatment of women in Naruto and the assaults in bleach made Gege sperg out hard so he felt the need to make every woman in the series some stoic girl boss and give every single event that occurs some explanation even if that explanation is complete nonsense
It doesn't matter whether they're useful or not, Gege wants to convey the image of them being strong and he succeeded given how people compare Nobara favorably to other Shonen female leads despite Nobara being a notorious jobber
sadly no because despite the sperm he deposited into her, it will be minimum of 15 years before the child she births can defeat sukuna
The author tried way too hard to make jujutsu kaisen an "what if HxH meet Yu yu Hakusho?" Series. Gege herself said she took a lot of inspiration from Togashi works and JJK power system is clearly inspired by Yu yu Hakusho spirit power + HxH nen power systems.
>it's clear the treatment of women in Naruto
No it doesn't, they die or do frick all. He just played a blinder by having them not dress like bawds and tricked the west.
pretty sure that guy is incapable of writing anything other than men, he just turned some random guys into girls so it wasn't a total sausagefest. but all his women are tomboys, so they're basically men.
Mainly focuses on fights instead of having a good story or characters, so it appeals to fightgay and power level hispanics and nignogs.
The designs of the male cast combined with their bland non-personalities appeal to fujos.
The female characters are written like men and have no love interests and no fan service scenes, so westoid fans think they are the best female characters in shonen history, even if they lose and job just as much as in any other battle shonen.
It constantly kills off characters for cheap shock factor, the villains often win, the "good guys" aren't actually good and the main characters often gang up on a single villain instead of fighting with honor, so to pretentious wannabe huntard psuedo intellectuals these are the signs of a subversive master piece. Combine that with a science word mumbo jumbo power system that throws around numbers and scientific sounding terms and both fightgays and psuedo intellectuals will have field day with it.
Tasteless and clueless zoomers think the anime has the best animation in shonen history, they see no problem with the weird incomprehensible adhd camera work, the ice skating and the art turning into scribbles every time the sakuga scenes happen.
Stakes, actually evil inner demon, lots of kung fu. Looks great in the manga.
Anime is a waste of time. It's funny to me that haters think its carried by the animation. That really speaks to their tastes.
Not an asspull but Yuji likely inherited at least some of the power from Sukuna's fingers, 15 of them at least. Gojo says Yuji will be able to use Sukuna's techniques after some time in S1. Yuji's new arm in the manga is likely one or all of those techniques. Yuji will defeat Sukuna (with help). There is potential for an asspull where Kenjaku placed a technique on Gojo while in the prison realm to take over his body if both of them are dead, in which case Sukuna would have to have spared Megumi in some way so Yuji + Mahoraga + Cast can kill him.
On another note Yuta can just copy Boogie Woogie and use it to replace anyone's brain with a rock at any time so none of this matters, including the way he killed Kenjaku the first time and cost Takaba his life.
Oh don't worry they'll milk 4 more seasons out of the manga
It's called having stakes. What's the point of watching fights to the death when everybody always survives?
I don't mind seeing Krillin die because he went against Freeza, I'd care if he was fighting Satan and then Satan transformed into SSJ because when Pan was inside of Videl her saiyan energy rubbed into him. That's how fights in Jujutsu end, just look at the latest chapter, "oh you have an instakill technique? nah uh, not anymore"
isnt gojo like the single strongest character too? How the frick did that guy die?
Sukuna used a physical attack against him so Gojo's defense couldn't protect him, no one knew Sukuna could do that before, no one knew that was the weak point in Gojo's defense because he stopped physical attacks before, Gojo's regeneration just stopped working, that's how
Finding the end of infinity is impossible, but since Mahoraga can adapt to any technique, He was able to perform this "impossible" task. Sukuna then copied this method with Cleave to kill Gojo. Gojo's stomach was cut in half, the source of Cursed Energy, so he cannot regenerate.
6 months ago
Anonymous
I thought that it was just
cleave point A -------- B directed to target the space in-universe, where Gojo happened to be in between the points
6 months ago
Anonymous
It's more straightforward than that, it's just that characters contradict each other to sound cool. Gojo's Infinity is more like a shield that moves to block attacks instead of a perfect bubble, Mahoraga and Sukuna sent attacks faster than Infinity could block.
The way i understood it was as if he used magic to lift a rock, and then gravity did the work, even then, Gojo's barrier probably works the same way, converting magic into a gravitational effect. They could have at least shown what Gojo was thinking during what happened to explain it better, remember that's how he was sealed in the first place, he thinks really fast. But no, that would just leave even more holes in their logic so the author didn't even bother.
no thats not it, remember how in the hidden inventory arc where Gojo perfected limitless to be automated? Any perceived threat is stopped but what Mahoraga and Sukuna did was trick the automated limitless by attacking behind Gojo. See, Limitless works by infinitely halving any attack aimed at Gojo. But if the attack was like a building that just so happens to have travelled through where Gojo is standing, it will still hit Gojo since Limitless will only halve an attack's distance in relation to its target.
I mean if Gojo didn't let his guard down he could have manually used Limitless to block Sukuna's attack but he couldn't have known.
I had a vision last night in which Hakari gambles his body in exchange for Megumi's soul, as a extension of his CT, and wins due to Sukuna wishing to have the immortality power. Then the lawyer guy kills Sukuna's body while Hakari has Megumi's soul. I don't watch this shit so I have no idea if this is how it works, genuinely, but feel free to screenshot this in case it happens.
Gege wanted to make Yuta the MC, they forced him to make Yuji the MC and gave Yuta the one-shot/JJK0 instead. I'm presuming he wanted to do a timeskip and they said no so he made Higuruma who is basically an adult Yuta who will be the winner in the end.
I'm assuming Gege can't be bothered with the restrictions placed on him so is just wrapping the whole thing up.
The fact that he didn't appear in the group scene when they were discussing how to kill Sukuna, when even irrelevant characters showed up, like the blonde healer that was with Todo in the Shibuia arc, makes me think that Gege is cooking something with Todo.
He's just retired, he "lost" his main curse technique by losing one of his hands. The only way he can use his curse technique is with the help of another person's hands like he did against his fight against mahito.
todo is the only reason i liked the first season but i enjoyed the second season a lot more and started to read the manga sucks he pretty much gets written out but at least hes not dead
when the guy claps he can switch two people spatially, doing it here to stop the freak from killing the guy on the floor and crashing into the woman mid-air
Gege wanted to make Yuta the MC, they forced him to make Yuji the MC and gave Yuta the one-shot/JJK0 instead. I'm presuming he wanted to do a timeskip and they said no so he made Higuruma who is basically an adult Yuta who will be the winner in the end.
I'm assuming Gege can't be bothered with the restrictions placed on him so is just wrapping the whole thing up.
>best character is a jobber with no secret ability
the fact that this homie survived so much shit implying he was hiding something was the most infuriating part about his death
looks dumb
boss is killed by secret boss
this shit is cool thougheverbiet
Every character in this feels so hallow. I totally get the worst parts of bleach vibes from this. Just endless new characters get introduced and the fights have no real substance. Sure its well animated but I expect more. This shit is actually overrated.
Give it to me straight, bros. Are the baddies going to win? Because Sukuna's kinda unbeatable right now and the longer the series goes on, the more I get the vibe that this is one of those series where the villain is going to win, everything's fricked, and there's not even a lesson to be learned from it all.
>final boss teams up with the player to take down the secret boss >steals the secret boss' powers right after beating him >"NOW WHERE WERE WE" >to be continued >studio shuts down before the sequel can be greenlit
>final boss teams up with the player to take down the secret boss
I'll raise you one better >the secret boss tries to kill you but the final boss intervenes so you have to sort of team up with the secret boss before going back to trying to kill each other
Man those colors are awful, good thing there's already alternate colors in the game
How the frick did Araki mess up soo much with one of the best stand designs.
He had a stroke
Prease understand
His dream was literally just to be a dictator. As a dictator, he wanted America to prosper, even if it meant other countries should suffer. He technically gets that wish in the end because the corpse ends up in Manhattan, but he died and that definitely was not what he wanted. His goal is realized, but only due to the actions of others.
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Why does the coolest looking Stand have to have the dumbest fricking ability? Araki is the kind of guy who has all these crazy, neat ideas, but it's always a build up to his absolutely dumbest.
There's nothing wrong with the ability, it fits well with the theme of bending reality/luck manipulation the new universe seem to have focus on
>there's nothing wrong with an auto-win ability >whose strength is completely arbitrary, letting the author determine it on a panel by panel basis >in a manga entirely about puzzle box fights
I would kill you, but I have to ask Araki for permission first.
>there's nothing wrong with an auto-win ability
It's not an auto-win since you need to be the one to follow the doctor for the ability to be triggered, so the counter of this being the one to be pursued, which what happened >whose strength is completely arbitrary, letting the author determine it on a panel by panel basis
How is arbitrary? The ability is simple, if you have any intention pursuing Wonder of U, something bad will happen to you
There's nothing wrong with the ability, the issue is how the fight is resolved
It's peak JJBA kino - in service to the worst ability in the series. It's a complex kind of feel. The villain's Stand Final Destinations anyone who even thinks about approaching him; he calls it calamity and it's genuinely invincible. So the MC sends him a threatening letter, causing him to do the approaching instead. In this scene, he phased through a wall to approach the MC and Jobro, but stopped halfway through, realizing the room was trapped somehow. Instead, he throws supernatural bugs at them and monologues while they try to fight them. At one point, the Jobro, as a consequence of his movement during the fight with the bugs, finds himself practically touching the Stand and wanting to shoot him in the face. The Stand then muses how no one has ever gotten this close to him before, so he's unsure of what would happen. Calamity should happen, but then again, he's so close.
Somebody actually pursued him and got close
[...] >there's nothing wrong with an auto-win ability
It's not an auto-win since you need to be the one to follow the doctor for the ability to be triggered, so the counter of this being the one to be pursued, which what happened >whose strength is completely arbitrary, letting the author determine it on a panel by panel basis
How is arbitrary? The ability is simple, if you have any intention pursuing Wonder of U, something bad will happen to you
There's nothing wrong with the ability, the issue is how the fight is resolved
>the counter of this being the one to be pursued
He could also just not do that. You can't attack him. He can just walk up to you and shoot you. You can do nothing. >How is arbitrary?
There's nothing that says when calamity will strike or how hard it will strike or what counts as pursuing. Mitsuba simply notices the doctor and this causes her to accidentally cut her fingers off. Kei walks into his room and has Josuke trigger her Stand with the intent of helping him fight whoever his opponent is, and this gets her brained. Joshu raises a hand to him and a random leaf slices off his finger. Yasuho calls Kei and asks her to go fight him and this causes an airplane door to fall off and go plummeting towards her, with the intent of hitting her in like 5 minutes. Sometimes it stops the pursuit, sometimes it retaliates. Sometimes it kills, sometimes it just inconveniences. There's no rhyme or reason for it. At the end, Kaato traps him and touches his face, her reasoning is she isn't threatening him, but most people weren't threatening him. It's author fiat.
>He could also just not do that
True, but he had to since he was being blackmailed, so he had to take care of Josuke >You can't attack him. He can just walk up to you and shoot you. You can do nothing.
Only if you're not a stand user >There's nothing that says when calamity will strike or how hard it will strike or what counts as pursuing.
Did you not pay attention how calamity got worse as Josuke's friends tried pursue more and more? >Mitsuba simply notices the doctor and this causes her to accidentally cut her fingers off.
Because she probably thought of following him since it's weird for someone like him in the estate >Kei walks into his room and has Josuke trigger her Stand with the intent of helping him fight whoever his opponent is, and this gets her brained. Joshu raises a hand to him and a random leaf slices off his finger.
Because they tried go against Tooru >Yasuho calls Kei and asks her to go fight him and this causes an airplane door to fall off and go plummeting towards her, with the intent of hitting her in like 5 minutes.
She was warned by Tooru that if she tried to go against him, the order of calamity will shift to her being the primary target >Sometimes it stops the pursuit, sometimes it retaliates. Sometimes it kills, sometimes it just inconveniences.
Yes, that's nature of of the ability, the more you try pursue, the more dangerous the calamity gets >There's no rhyme or reason for it.
There is >At the end, Kaato traps him and touches his face, her reasoning is she isn't threatening him, but most people weren't threatening him.
She still got axed
6 months ago
Anonymous
>Yasuho pursued him romantically >lived
explain that
>there's nothing wrong with an auto-win ability >whose strength is completely arbitrary, letting the author determine it on a panel by panel basis >in a manga entirely about puzzle box fights
I would kill you, but I have to ask Araki for permission first.
Most Stands are controlled like an appendage, telepathically without a thought of their own, but some have their own independence. Jotaro's Star Platinum (the very first Stand we see) actually acts on his own, but he behaves like an obedient guardian angel, reacting to Jotaro's benefit even before Jotaro realizes he needs it. There are others who need orders barked at them out loud and are otherwise unaware of what their user is doing. Although it's rare, some even work against their user. Regardless, some also speak. Most Stands only speak as an extension of their user, but ones with their own personality can speak freely like a completely independent person. You often see this reflected in the anime/games by the Stand having a different VA than the user.
This is not new. In Part 3, Stardust Crusaders, the part to introduce Stands, we see Anubis, a Stand without a user, who talks nonstop. The Empress also acts independently of its user and talking to non-users is part of how it fights.
Dont forget that the "requiem" version of them are fully independent as well. Gold experience requiem saves giorno from dying to diavolo's attack during a time stop/skip and giorno didnt even know what happened in the end.
His dream was literally just to be a dictator. As a dictator, he wanted America to prosper, even if it meant other countries should suffer. He technically gets that wish in the end because the corpse ends up in Manhattan, but he died and that definitely was not what he wanted. His goal is realized, but only due to the actions of others.
>Final boss is lame and the bosses before him were way better
Why does the coolest looking Stand have to have the dumbest fricking ability? Araki is the kind of guy who has all these crazy, neat ideas, but it's always a build up to his absolutely dumbest.
Any game or series that does this is auto trash if the villain hasn’t been introduced beforehand. You’re removing the character with development for a character with none
The author tried way too hard to make jujutsu kaisen an "what if HxH meet Yu yu Hakusho?" Series. Gege herself said she took a lot of inspiration from Togashi works and JJK power system is clearly inspired by Yu yu Hakusho spirit power + HxH nen power systems.
Yeah it's heavily inspired by hxh, however the author didn't manage to make the fights as engaging and strategic as hxh's fights. I dropped the manga as it was non stop fighting with no breathing room and all fights felt like asspulls with no overarching logic behind the power system
Hunterchads win again
I just finished reading Yu Yu Hakusho. I didn't really like it. There were a few things I liked about it even more than Hunter x Hunter, but on a whole I found it mediocre. Chapter Black felt like a high point until it suddenly ends with Yusuke being the Chosen One. The Three Kings then has Togashi go through several chapters of build-up just to finish the tournament in a quick montage with a completely unbelievable finish, segueing into far left political propaganda which contradicts not only the first arc of the story, but the entire premise of the one it's wrapping up. Really left a bad taste in my mouth. People shit on the Chimera Ant Arc for ending with "humans might even be worse than ants," but Yu Yu Hakusho's final message is three times worse.
>be anime only gay >dont even recognize half the characters being mentioned here
should i just read the manga? i dont wanna wait till 2030 for this shit to be finished
you might as well. that's what i did. then you'll understand how good you had it since shibuya is the best part of the series and it's all downhill from here. supposedly the manga only has about a year left anyway.
>ZOMG THE AUTHOR IS CRAZY HE ISN'T SCARED TO KILL OFF ALL HIS CHARACTERS UNLIKE OTHER AUTHORS
Ok and? Who cares about these deaths? You forget about them 5 minutes later because the characters are all paper thin blank slates who are completely interchangeable. Even the forced on backstory flashback, I felt nothing when Nobara died. She was never important to the story. Her death also had no payoff besides turning JOBji into an edgelord for the reminder of the Mahito fight.
>best character is a jobber with no secret ability
the fact that this homie survived so much shit implying he was hiding something was the most infuriating part about his death
I actually like the themes of jjk of individual strength vs just jumping people and being selfish vs selfless. On the outlook, JJK makes it seem like being a selfish butthole is how you be strong, but going about it totally the other way makes you someone with no will or consciousness.
>Have two actually cool characters >Kill one, irreparably cripple the other within three episodes >Left with the most generic shonen protagonist of all time, whose only standout feature is that it would have been better for everyone if he were killed as soon as the series started >Muh stakes
>claps his literal open wound and it still works
by this logic he should be able to clap his arm if anything but maybe that was just le epic anime moment that he can never do again. shonen moment i guess
I glanced at a jjk thread on a once and they said yuji was developing soul manipulation as his technique and wi likely fix Todo eventually. Did I get rused? I've not read since the start of the culling game barring a few chapters when Gojo died and the comedy showdown
we still don't know yuji's technique. all we know is >noritoshi and choso have both been teaching him something (and they're both blood manipulators) >yuji ate the remaining 6 cursed wombs >yuki gave yuji a book of hers that supposedly has a bunch of info >yuji now has a pair of armored arms that look similar to yuta's from his fight in the sendai colony >and pic related
so basically a bunch of speculation and new hints and 0 actual confirmations on what any of this means yet. hopefully in the sukuna fight something gets revealed.
6 months ago
Anonymous
Dont forget Sukuna felt something unusual when he blocked Yuji's punch.
6 months ago
Anonymous
How can Sukuna escape the trial?
6 months ago
Anonymous
I mean, the trial stole his weapon and the sword cant kill him if he doesnt get hit... All he needs to do is to kill higuruma without getting hit by his sword.
6 months ago
Anonymous
Seems hard to do.
By the way, is this the first time that a final boss of a manga is hit by a very peculiar gimmick attack? usually those characters get filtered out before the final battle or their powers don't work at all.
I can't get invested into this series. I just don't give a shit about any of the characters. They are all the same generic stoic apathetic card board cut outs who are also all 200 iq geniuses who go "just according to keikaku" all the time in every fight. The fights aren't that great either since most powers aren't very creative and just boil down to different colored punches, slashes and beams.
Mahito specifically is annoying, because all his fights boil down to the exact same formula. That homosexual spams long range attacks until the sorcerer he is fighting ice skates to him at which point he gets overpowered but can't take any fricking damage due to muh "you didn't touch my soul" bullshit and then he can end the fight by just simply touching his opponent, except sometimes it just arbitrarily doesn't work like when he tried it for the first time against Nanami. I hate his stupid fricking powers so fricking much. Shape shifting + immortality + one hit kill doesn't make for exciting fights.
It's like that bug in FF2 where you reflect Toad at an enemy or something and it deletes them.
>Gets written out of the arc since him and the chameleon would've trivialized the whole thing
Togashi would've written it so that Meryem's Nen was too powerful to be teleported away from his body, so it instead shunted him into the floor or something. He would've gotten up and did a 360 degree tail swipe, killing both of them.
Literally Naruto for zoomers >mc is a guy with a powerful beast sealed inside him >edgy dark haired strong partner but will never be strong as mc >obligatory useless girl >op teacher with a mask and magical hax eyes
More Naruto than MHA? Every MHA character is just two Naruto characters combined. Deku and All Might are literally Rock Lee and Might Guy.
The appeal is that the mc is a constantly developing character who survives a nightmarish shithole life by the skin of his teeth even though he's basically Jesus as far as the setting is concerned.
tbf the whole reason the MC is a loser moron is because hes been living alone in a shack with only his pet dog since childhood being treated like a slave by the mafia. It makes sense why he is the way he is
JJK and CSM both copied Naruto's most important thing, the character dynamics. They just happen to also take inspiration from better things than fricking Naruto, gege takes heavily from togashi and type moon while CSM takes after devilman and flcl
>How come JJK & CSM are the only half decent shonen to be released in the last 5/10 years?
Because you only pay attention to mainstream shit
How do you not know Fire Punch if you know Chainsaw Man?
Also Golden Kamuy is better than everything mentioned in your post
Isn't it more or less confirmed Gege didn't want to write JJK the way it's been written, but had to make a lot of changes because editorial wanted it to be more marketable, and that he's tired of working on it?
He could just be pulling a "Prison School" and dragging his most successful work into the mud because he's sick of working on it and wants it to be done and salt the earth for the franchise.
Alright, I just took a hit of copium. How's this sound. >Gojo made a point early on about being a teacher and helping his students surpass him as the strongest to fight the curses of tomorrow, essentially >Nobara is strongly implied to be dead, but not confirmed >Megumi is strongly inferred to be dead, or potentially crippled beyond use, but not confirmed >Yuji's around, suffering >What if Nobara comes back, Megumi comes back, both reuniting with Itadori, all stronger for having experienced what they have >Despite having not really taught them shit, Gojo's students have been through hell and come out the other side stronger >And they kaisen all over the bad guys
Am I delusional?
I mean, in the latest chapter higoruma says there is a possibility of his "death penalty" sword to not kill megumi in the process, so they're still assuming megumi is alive and can still be saved somehow.
pretty delusional tbh. if nobara comes back at all she'll probably be bodyjacked by kenny. we don't know for sure if megumi is technically dead yet since higuruma speculates that they can save him with executioner's sword, but they don't know if it'll actually work and there's a pretty good chance they're just wrong seeing how wrong they were about deadly sentencing taking sukuna's technique.
i'd say todo has a better chance of coming back than anyone else.
is this the one where one of the main villains took over the protags mom and took backshots so he could go through the whole process of birthing the protagonist
What's the appeal of Jujutsu Kaisen
fujoshonen that copies Bleach and HxH
massive fujo and black fanbase
>black fanbase
That's all battle shounen, isn't it? Perusing the Ganker threads should be enough to inform you, but if that doesn't do it, just look the series up on YouTube.
>Stuff just randomly happens and the power system makes no fricking sense
So, less Hunter x Hunter and more Yu Yu Hakusho.
>That's all battle shounen, isn't it?
Nah blacks didn't like demon slayer for pushing traditional values or CSM for being degenerate
Those are both completely incorrect.
Especially the latter.
>blacks didn't like demon slayer
What dimension do you come from?
grug like fight animated good
The fights are really good.
They are shit. Not tactics or strategy in it. Stuff just randomly happens and the power system makes no fricking sense.
Muh tactics isn't the only thing that makes a manga fight good. Gege's style is good at combining dynamic physical combat with mindfricky reality-bending shit and it flows well. His style is quite distinctive so not for everyone but if you dig it you dig it.
>everybody's got a plan till they get punched in the mouth
tacticsgays forever seething
I like the artstyle l
A post as unfinished as the art in JJK. Brilliant
Girl here, hot men
it's actually pretty good, except frick the author for killing off the best characters.
>try to get into JJK
>favorite character 1 dies
>favorite character 2 dies
>mexican friend then tells me another character I like will die
what started this trend of killing the good characters in your shounen? I remember chainsaw man doing this too
I dont know, but its the one thing that seriously pisses me off about this series. besides the fact that sometimes the curse powers get a little convoluted for newer characters, the killing off of great characters seems like the author wants to tank their own project. isnit even necessary to the plot in some cases? Or is it just to torture the shit out of yuji?
Literally, Game of Thrones.
24 did it a decade before Game of Thrones.
It's called having stakes. What's the point of watching fights to the death when everybody always survives?
there's too many stakes. imagine murdering your top popular character like Gojo, and nanami, and megumi getting body snatched, literal top 3 main character kugisaki, I mean people just keep dying. Gojo is too far imo
isnt gojo like the single strongest character too? How the frick did that guy die?
He didn't, he's using a technique to make it look like he died so he can surprise attack Sukuna.
You know how he said he could beat full power Sukuna?
Well, he was bullshitting and he only said that cause he really wanted to fight the strongest of all time.
He could beat a full power Sukuna with mahoga
>Beat Full power sukuna
Gojo himself said sukune didnt go all-out against him.
>It's called having stakes
It's a story, though. One Piece is famous for not killing anyone and Dragon Ball is famous for anyone being able to wish people back to life if they die. Are these series more popular than One Piece and Dragon Ball? I don't think this "stakes" shit is as important as you think it is.
Imagine if at the end of the Tortoise and the Hare, the Tortoise kills the Hare. Does that make the story better? Maybe if you're an edgy 13-year old, but most people would say no. It actually feels kinda' bad because now that character's just done with. And before you say it's realistic, realism also doesn't matter.
>24 did it a decade before Game of Thrones
I can't tell if you're baiting or not.
Popular != good
One Piece is good. I have no comment for Dragon Ball.
>he had to since he was being blackmailed
Which is another example of "pursuit" being author fiat. Josuke obviously intended for the letter to cause Wonder of U to come to him. Why is that not considered pursuing, but Mitsuba just looking at him and wondering why he's there is?
>Only if you're not a stand user
You can shoot a Stand user, anon, some Stand users use guns to fight. Not every Stand is Star Platinum.
>Did you not pay attention how calamity got worse as Josuke's friends tried pursue more and more?
Several of them got killed their first time, while Josuke got hit like a dozen times and each time wasn't worse than the last. I'm pretty sure the card and rain bullets were worse than everything that happened in the hospital.
>she probably thought of following him
And the Stand stopped her dead in her tracks. Meanwhile, Yasuho was able to complete two phone call conversations interrupted by an argument with Tooru.
>Because they tried go against Tooru
Yes, but there's no rhyme or reason to the severity or expediency of calamity. It's whatever Araki wants on a moment by moment basis. That's what this entire conversation is about that we're having right now. Hello? Are you okay?
>the order of calamity will shift to her being the primary target
Yeah, which is a completely redundant comment. Anyone who pursues him is immediately jumped "to the top of the list" and swatted down. The comment makes it sound like there's some kind of priority involved, like he only attacks one person at a time or people might have calamity delayed because there's greater offenders to get to first. This is false. You pursue, you get fricked. There is no list. There is no need for a list.
>the more you try pursue, the more dangerous the calamity gets
Josuke spends the entire fight pursuing him but characters who pursue him once, indirectly, get murdered.
>She still got axed
After throwing a troony at him.
>Josuke obviously intended for the letter to cause Wonder of U to come to him. Why is that not considered pursuing
Because he stopped the act of pursuing him and let someone else do it for him. He didn't need to do anything but wait
>You can shoot a Stand user, anon, some Stand users use guns to fight.
Are you complaining that a stand is so powerful that it can kill you instantly without being able to counter it? I guess The World 's time stop ability is bad because of that
>After throwing a troony at him.
So what? She still got fatally injured and died
But yeah, Wonder of U is inconsistent because of the damage severity, though the only justification for that I can think of is that it said calamity is unpredictable.
Still, at least the ability itself is more consistent than something like Gold Experience
Killing fan favorites was already a thing all the way back in 1980s, sounds like you don't read older manga
Araki only does that at the end of an entire manga to show the finaru bossu is no joke, not at the start of in the middle of an arc.
>Araki only does that at the end of an entire manga
Not really, plenty of characters die over halfway through manga and before the final arc. That anon was talking about killing favorite characters in general
>kill off characters people like
>they complain
>don't kill off any characters
>they complain
How the frick do you win?
Dont kill every single character
jjk has only killed like 4 important characters so far
That's the funny part, you don't.
I want to frick this fat pig
Where's the boob version anon
the problem is that the characters in hero aca fricking suck so I WANT to see them dead
Kill off a character only when it benefits the story and concludes the character arc of said character and only after you gave them enough screen time. Nanami was the only ok death, every other death felt either cheap because it was a character who dies in the same arc that he get's introduced or unsatisfying because the character never really did anything in the story and wasn't fleshed out
They put hundreds of children to fight against psychopaths and none of them die, and then some pro hero that wasn't even fighting dies off screen, that's the problem, no stake at all for the kids and some forced shit for pros
Does Choso die
It's basically Naruto for zoomers
>it's basically [zoomer series] for zoomers
young people watching a show that came out recently is pretty crazy
jjk is the bleach equivalent. kimetsu no yaiba is naruto. one piece is still one piece.
kimetsu no yaiba was a lot easier to enjoy than Naruto imo
>Nanami
rip in pepperoni
Literally Naruto for zoomers
>mc is a guy with a powerful beast sealed inside him
>edgy dark haired strong partner but will never be strong as mc
>obligatory useless girl
>op teacher with a mask and magical hax eyes
naruto is naruto for zoomers
naruto's the one still getting merch and clothes here, not snoreruto
Well animated fights and everything shibuya onwards
>What's the appeal of Jujutsu Kaisen
You only have this and Demon Slayer (and Chainsw Man but it flopped) this generation of battle shonens, it is not that it has some massive appeal its just that there isnt literally anything else.
I keep asking people this and everyone dances around the question, but are those three really battle shounen? From faraway they look more like One Punch Man or Fullmetal Alchemist.
>but it flopped
Movie on the way. Cope and seethe.
>Cope and seethe
Then why the director/style change for the movie?
Certainly not because the anime was successful, lmao.
style is the same, we literally haven't seen it in motion. it will be more detailed since mappa is only having to do a movie and not a full season of anime
director has changed because fujimoto is a film nerd and obviously had someone specifically picked out to fill the position of Guy Who Directs The Chainsaw Man Movie. it wont be bad because fujimoto wouldnt want to watch a bad CSM movie
>style change
What style change?
Not sure how I feel about the movie just being 4 hours of raw anal
What if Bleach was gay
Combat and animation, fujobait too if that's your thing.
Cool fights and I just skip if there's too much boring dialogue.
It's Bleanch and HxH love baby.
It takes "rule of cools" and a fights based plot and mix it with "complex" (lol) powers and high stakes.
The anime also hard carried this shit, most fight dont have any right to look this good.
Fujobait
They actually kill the damn characters instead of everyone surviving till the end and then killing someone for cheap emotional sendoff harry potter style
>instead of everyone surviving till the end and then killing someone for cheap emotional sendoff
Yeah, instead they skip to the cheap emotional send off
>They actually kill the damn characters instead of everyone surviving
It's just people sperging about "I wish more people died in this other children's series", made into a show without good depth, substance, or world-building.
It resulted in cool fight scenes and slop.
You frickers should've just read Gantz and gotten over your edgy phase.
The issue with JJK is that it kills off everyone willy-nilly and fails to replace them with compelling characters so the current cast in the manga is boring as shit save for Higuruma who's probably the next on the chopping block
It's basically the type of Shonen a 14 year old would write in response to other Shonen not doing things the "right" way. For example, it's clear the treatment of women in Naruto and the assaults in bleach made Gege sperg out hard so he felt the need to make every woman in the series some stoic girl boss and give every single event that occurs some explanation even if that explanation is complete nonsense
>gege
>making women able to do anything
name one woman who is not maki who is alive and also doing something useful RIGHT NOW
It doesn't matter whether they're useful or not, Gege wants to convey the image of them being strong and he succeeded given how people compare Nobara favorably to other Shonen female leads despite Nobara being a notorious jobber
>convey the image of them being strong by making her completely useless beyond S1
I think you are actually moronic
Go ask the average normalgay whether Nobara is useless or not and see how they'll respond. Ganker doesn't represent the major opinion
The publics ability to grasp the concepts conveyed in media is not the responsibility of the artist.
>who is alive
Mei Mei
>and also doing something useful RIGHT NOW
Uhhh.....
Huh.....
Does banging her little brother count as useful?
sadly no because despite the sperm he deposited into her, it will be minimum of 15 years before the child she births can defeat sukuna
>she
>assaults
Asspulls
>it's clear the treatment of women in Naruto
No it doesn't, they die or do frick all. He just played a blinder by having them not dress like bawds and tricked the west.
pretty sure that guy is incapable of writing anything other than men, he just turned some random guys into girls so it wasn't a total sausagefest. but all his women are tomboys, so they're basically men.
>pretty sure that guy is incapable of writing anything other than men
He can't even write most male characters properly lol
Nanami, Mahito, and Todo are like the only characters I could give two shits about
the real geto was actually really cool and a good character. shame what happened.
Name one (1) woman in Jujutsu Kaisen not outclassed by their male counterpart.
I think gege is just a homo
rubber hose animation, it's all the rage lately
>character whos ability is to freely modify things, including himself
>wtf why is his animation so weird
whomst are you quoting
God SHARThito turns every fight into shit.
Mainly focuses on fights instead of having a good story or characters, so it appeals to fightgay and power level hispanics and nignogs.
The designs of the male cast combined with their bland non-personalities appeal to fujos.
The female characters are written like men and have no love interests and no fan service scenes, so westoid fans think they are the best female characters in shonen history, even if they lose and job just as much as in any other battle shonen.
It constantly kills off characters for cheap shock factor, the villains often win, the "good guys" aren't actually good and the main characters often gang up on a single villain instead of fighting with honor, so to pretentious wannabe huntard psuedo intellectuals these are the signs of a subversive master piece. Combine that with a science word mumbo jumbo power system that throws around numbers and scientific sounding terms and both fightgays and psuedo intellectuals will have field day with it.
Tasteless and clueless zoomers think the anime has the best animation in shonen history, they see no problem with the weird incomprehensible adhd camera work, the ice skating and the art turning into scribbles every time the sakuga scenes happen.
>art turning into scribbles every time the sakuga scenes happen.
that's based and has been based since birdy the mighty decode.
Probably the best dressing down of why I personally don't like it, well put.
>What's the appeal of Jujutsu Kaisen
stakes.
He's so fricking cool
It's well animated.... that's it, everything goes to shit after Shibuya where it becomes abundantly clear the Editors where carrying the story
Stakes, actually evil inner demon, lots of kung fu. Looks great in the manga.
Anime is a waste of time. It's funny to me that haters think its carried by the animation. That really speaks to their tastes.
Cool fights and powers.
>mahitoBlack folk deserve rope
>secret
Make a fight end in Jujutsu Kaisen without an ass pull or rule change challenge (impossible)
>Final boss
Wait it's in it's final arc already?
Unless they pull a Kaguya on Sukuna, yes
As a animu only viewer i do wonder what kind of asspull Yuji will need to even defeat him.
Not an asspull but Yuji likely inherited at least some of the power from Sukuna's fingers, 15 of them at least. Gojo says Yuji will be able to use Sukuna's techniques after some time in S1. Yuji's new arm in the manga is likely one or all of those techniques. Yuji will defeat Sukuna (with help). There is potential for an asspull where Kenjaku placed a technique on Gojo while in the prison realm to take over his body if both of them are dead, in which case Sukuna would have to have spared Megumi in some way so Yuji + Mahoraga + Cast can kill him.
On another note Yuta can just copy Boogie Woogie and use it to replace anyone's brain with a rock at any time so none of this matters, including the way he killed Kenjaku the first time and cost Takaba his life.
Oh don't worry they'll milk 4 more seasons out of the manga
I don't mind seeing Krillin die because he went against Freeza, I'd care if he was fighting Satan and then Satan transformed into SSJ because when Pan was inside of Videl her saiyan energy rubbed into him. That's how fights in Jujutsu end, just look at the latest chapter, "oh you have an instakill technique? nah uh, not anymore"
Sukuna used a physical attack against him so Gojo's defense couldn't protect him, no one knew Sukuna could do that before, no one knew that was the weak point in Gojo's defense because he stopped physical attacks before, Gojo's regeneration just stopped working, that's how
>Sukuna used a physical attack against him so Gojo's defense couldn't protect him
I thought it was literally just cutting through space so Gojo's "infinite distance" barrier didn't matter.
Finding the end of infinity is impossible, but since Mahoraga can adapt to any technique, He was able to perform this "impossible" task. Sukuna then copied this method with Cleave to kill Gojo. Gojo's stomach was cut in half, the source of Cursed Energy, so he cannot regenerate.
I thought that it was just
cleave point A -------- B directed to target the space in-universe, where Gojo happened to be in between the points
It's more straightforward than that, it's just that characters contradict each other to sound cool. Gojo's Infinity is more like a shield that moves to block attacks instead of a perfect bubble, Mahoraga and Sukuna sent attacks faster than Infinity could block.
The way i understood it was as if he used magic to lift a rock, and then gravity did the work, even then, Gojo's barrier probably works the same way, converting magic into a gravitational effect. They could have at least shown what Gojo was thinking during what happened to explain it better, remember that's how he was sealed in the first place, he thinks really fast. But no, that would just leave even more holes in their logic so the author didn't even bother.
no thats not it, remember how in the hidden inventory arc where Gojo perfected limitless to be automated? Any perceived threat is stopped but what Mahoraga and Sukuna did was trick the automated limitless by attacking behind Gojo. See, Limitless works by infinitely halving any attack aimed at Gojo. But if the attack was like a building that just so happens to have travelled through where Gojo is standing, it will still hit Gojo since Limitless will only halve an attack's distance in relation to its target.
I mean if Gojo didn't let his guard down he could have manually used Limitless to block Sukuna's attack but he couldn't have known.
I had a vision last night in which Hakari gambles his body in exchange for Megumi's soul, as a extension of his CT, and wins due to Sukuna wishing to have the immortality power. Then the lawyer guy kills Sukuna's body while Hakari has Megumi's soul. I don't watch this shit so I have no idea if this is how it works, genuinely, but feel free to screenshot this in case it happens.
Gege wanted to make Yuta the MC, they forced him to make Yuji the MC and gave Yuta the one-shot/JJK0 instead. I'm presuming he wanted to do a timeskip and they said no so he made Higuruma who is basically an adult Yuta who will be the winner in the end.
I'm assuming Gege can't be bothered with the restrictions placed on him so is just wrapping the whole thing up.
>Higuruma who is basically an adult Yuta who will be the winner in the en
that's a lot of copium, if he was him he would've ended sukuna with judgeman
Wtf is this even about? Is it just fights? Whenever I see it posted it's "WHOAAA X KILLED Y"
>wtf is sorcery fight even about? is it just fights with sorcery?
duh
Todo is carying this shit hard for me. I don't care about anything else really in this show.
You'll be disappointed to know he doesn't appear again after this.
The fact that he didn't appear in the group scene when they were discussing how to kill Sukuna, when even irrelevant characters showed up, like the blonde healer that was with Todo in the Shibuia arc, makes me think that Gege is cooking something with Todo.
He's just retired, he "lost" his main curse technique by losing one of his hands. The only way he can use his curse technique is with the help of another person's hands like he did against his fight against mahito.
He did in his fight against mahito***
Well, he loses one of his hands in this battle and become useless.He'll not appear ever again after this fight.
todo is the only reason i liked the first season but i enjoyed the second season a lot more and started to read the manga sucks he pretty much gets written out but at least hes not dead
>That entire sequence in Season 1 of him day dreaming about going to high school with Yuji and them talking about girls and shit.
He really is the best.
Him fricking up that Mahito c**t is glorious too
Im sorry, i can't even tell what the frick is happening here
when the guy claps he can switch two people spatially, doing it here to stop the freak from killing the guy on the floor and crashing into the woman mid-air
Todo and Nanami are literally the only characters I even halfway like
Oh I can just tell this is popular with women. They all do that quirked toothy grin that women seem to like.
looks dumb
total projectparasite death
Every character in this feels so hallow. I totally get the worst parts of bleach vibes from this. Just endless new characters get introduced and the fights have no real substance. Sure its well animated but I expect more. This shit is actually overrated.
nah
I'd win
>I totally get the worst parts of bleach
HAve you seen Bleach? Bleach is the worst part of Bleach.
Bleach has 700+ chapters but only 5 arcs.
who are these two people
got a pic of the guy being sucked off?
>got le slorp'd
sad, embarrassing
Dragon Quest VI
Why is one of the best selling manga's this badly drawn?
Give it to me straight, bros. Are the baddies going to win? Because Sukuna's kinda unbeatable right now and the longer the series goes on, the more I get the vibe that this is one of those series where the villain is going to win, everything's fricked, and there's not even a lesson to be learned from it all.
>implying kenjaku being Yuji's mom wont be relevant soon
>implying Yug's mindbending powers wont be relevant and explained soon
It's 100% gonna be a shit ending, and im positive there will be a secret boss after Sukuna, or a final form he hasnt shown yet
The big monster Kenjaku is making will be the last boss
i expect it to go like that too
giwtwm
Why do people make and save webms where half the point is the dialogue but there are no subtitles?
Wtf is this crap
Incest/grooming
Wtf, arent they siblings?
They are, blood related on top of that.
Do they frick?
>Liking a shonen that has in-universe critical hits
>final boss teams up with the player to take down the secret boss
>steals the secret boss' powers right after beating him
>"NOW WHERE WERE WE"
>to be continued
>studio shuts down before the sequel can be greenlit
Name 1 game
>final boss teams up with the player to take down the secret boss
I'll raise you one better
>the secret boss tries to kill you but the final boss intervenes so you have to sort of team up with the secret boss before going back to trying to kill each other
They robbed angel
How about you watch a actual fun and good show like Undead Unluck.
also great anime so far
i like both thoughever
>Undead Unluck
still not feeling that one, for my action fill I'm sticking with Ragna Crimson
I fricking love this show. Fuuko and Andy are great.
>secret boss
That's called the true boss
Dragon Quest VI
boss is killed by secret boss
this shit is cool thougheverbiet
>final boss was right
>Final boss is lame and the bosses before him were way better
>does nothing and calamity decides to kill you
>wins
Truly the most broken ability for a stand
Are you Pursuing me?
How the frick did Araki mess up soo much with one of the best stand designs.
Man those colors are awful, good thing there's already alternate colors in the game
He had a stroke
Prease understand
There's nothing wrong with the ability, it fits well with the theme of bending reality/luck manipulation the new universe seem to have focus on
I've only read up to the end of Steel Ball Run, need to read JoJolion. What's the context here
Somebody actually pursued him and got close
>there's nothing wrong with an auto-win ability
It's not an auto-win since you need to be the one to follow the doctor for the ability to be triggered, so the counter of this being the one to be pursued, which what happened
>whose strength is completely arbitrary, letting the author determine it on a panel by panel basis
How is arbitrary? The ability is simple, if you have any intention pursuing Wonder of U, something bad will happen to you
There's nothing wrong with the ability, the issue is how the fight is resolved
It's peak JJBA kino - in service to the worst ability in the series. It's a complex kind of feel.
The villain's Stand Final Destinations anyone who even thinks about approaching him; he calls it calamity and it's genuinely invincible. So the MC sends him a threatening letter, causing him to do the approaching instead. In this scene, he phased through a wall to approach the MC and Jobro, but stopped halfway through, realizing the room was trapped somehow. Instead, he throws supernatural bugs at them and monologues while they try to fight them. At one point, the Jobro, as a consequence of his movement during the fight with the bugs, finds himself practically touching the Stand and wanting to shoot him in the face. The Stand then muses how no one has ever gotten this close to him before, so he's unsure of what would happen. Calamity should happen, but then again, he's so close.
>the counter of this being the one to be pursued
He could also just not do that. You can't attack him. He can just walk up to you and shoot you. You can do nothing.
>How is arbitrary?
There's nothing that says when calamity will strike or how hard it will strike or what counts as pursuing. Mitsuba simply notices the doctor and this causes her to accidentally cut her fingers off. Kei walks into his room and has Josuke trigger her Stand with the intent of helping him fight whoever his opponent is, and this gets her brained. Joshu raises a hand to him and a random leaf slices off his finger. Yasuho calls Kei and asks her to go fight him and this causes an airplane door to fall off and go plummeting towards her, with the intent of hitting her in like 5 minutes. Sometimes it stops the pursuit, sometimes it retaliates. Sometimes it kills, sometimes it just inconveniences. There's no rhyme or reason for it. At the end, Kaato traps him and touches his face, her reasoning is she isn't threatening him, but most people weren't threatening him. It's author fiat.
>He could also just not do that
True, but he had to since he was being blackmailed, so he had to take care of Josuke
>You can't attack him. He can just walk up to you and shoot you. You can do nothing.
Only if you're not a stand user
>There's nothing that says when calamity will strike or how hard it will strike or what counts as pursuing.
Did you not pay attention how calamity got worse as Josuke's friends tried pursue more and more?
>Mitsuba simply notices the doctor and this causes her to accidentally cut her fingers off.
Because she probably thought of following him since it's weird for someone like him in the estate
>Kei walks into his room and has Josuke trigger her Stand with the intent of helping him fight whoever his opponent is, and this gets her brained. Joshu raises a hand to him and a random leaf slices off his finger.
Because they tried go against Tooru
>Yasuho calls Kei and asks her to go fight him and this causes an airplane door to fall off and go plummeting towards her, with the intent of hitting her in like 5 minutes.
She was warned by Tooru that if she tried to go against him, the order of calamity will shift to her being the primary target
>Sometimes it stops the pursuit, sometimes it retaliates. Sometimes it kills, sometimes it just inconveniences.
Yes, that's nature of of the ability, the more you try pursue, the more dangerous the calamity gets
>There's no rhyme or reason for it.
There is
>At the end, Kaato traps him and touches his face, her reasoning is she isn't threatening him, but most people weren't threatening him.
She still got axed
>Yasuho pursued him romantically
>lived
explain that
>there's nothing wrong with an auto-win ability
>whose strength is completely arbitrary, letting the author determine it on a panel by panel basis
>in a manga entirely about puzzle box fights
I would kill you, but I have to ask Araki for permission first.
they can talk to their stands now?
Most Stands are controlled like an appendage, telepathically without a thought of their own, but some have their own independence. Jotaro's Star Platinum (the very first Stand we see) actually acts on his own, but he behaves like an obedient guardian angel, reacting to Jotaro's benefit even before Jotaro realizes he needs it. There are others who need orders barked at them out loud and are otherwise unaware of what their user is doing. Although it's rare, some even work against their user. Regardless, some also speak. Most Stands only speak as an extension of their user, but ones with their own personality can speak freely like a completely independent person. You often see this reflected in the anime/games by the Stand having a different VA than the user.
This is not new. In Part 3, Stardust Crusaders, the part to introduce Stands, we see Anubis, a Stand without a user, who talks nonstop. The Empress also acts independently of its user and talking to non-users is part of how it fights.
Dont forget that the "requiem" version of them are fully independent as well. Gold experience requiem saves giorno from dying to diavolo's attack during a time stop/skip and giorno didnt even know what happened in the end.
His dream was literally just to be a dictator. As a dictator, he wanted America to prosper, even if it meant other countries should suffer. He technically gets that wish in the end because the corpse ends up in Manhattan, but he died and that definitely was not what he wanted. His goal is realized, but only due to the actions of others.
Why does the coolest looking Stand have to have the dumbest fricking ability? Araki is the kind of guy who has all these crazy, neat ideas, but it's always a build up to his absolutely dumbest.
Any game or series that does this is auto trash if the villain hasn’t been introduced beforehand. You’re removing the character with development for a character with none
Pic related despite the fight being fun
>*Gets one shotted*
The author tried way too hard to make jujutsu kaisen an "what if HxH meet Yu yu Hakusho?" Series. Gege herself said she took a lot of inspiration from Togashi works and JJK power system is clearly inspired by Yu yu Hakusho spirit power + HxH nen power systems.
>herself
>she
Yeah it's heavily inspired by hxh, however the author didn't manage to make the fights as engaging and strategic as hxh's fights. I dropped the manga as it was non stop fighting with no breathing room and all fights felt like asspulls with no overarching logic behind the power system
Hunterchads win again
>"what if HxH meet Yu yu Hakusho?"
So it's the Dark Tournament except the character's abilities aren't asspulls?
>He fell for the meme the author is a woman
just watch an interview he sounds like someone that smoked a pack everyday for the last 25 years
>she
I just finished reading Yu Yu Hakusho. I didn't really like it. There were a few things I liked about it even more than Hunter x Hunter, but on a whole I found it mediocre. Chapter Black felt like a high point until it suddenly ends with Yusuke being the Chosen One. The Three Kings then has Togashi go through several chapters of build-up just to finish the tournament in a quick montage with a completely unbelievable finish, segueing into far left political propaganda which contradicts not only the first arc of the story, but the entire premise of the one it's wrapping up. Really left a bad taste in my mouth. People shit on the Chimera Ant Arc for ending with "humans might even be worse than ants," but Yu Yu Hakusho's final message is three times worse.
How does JJK compare? Would I like it?
Yuyu Hakusho was supposed to end at the black chapter saga but togashi's editor and publisher forced him to make another arc.
Nah, i'd win.
Can punch harder > Complex power system
Based dragon ball bro
Wrong picture FRICK
power system is fun to have discussions about, plus I like seeing the weekly discussions. Its also just fun to read as well
>Final boss comes back in the sequel to help you kill the new final boss
>final boss in the sequel is you from the previous game
The useless bangs girl is cute
>be anime only gay
>dont even recognize half the characters being mentioned here
should i just read the manga? i dont wanna wait till 2030 for this shit to be finished
you might as well. that's what i did. then you'll understand how good you had it since shibuya is the best part of the series and it's all downhill from here. supposedly the manga only has about a year left anyway.
>ZOMG THE AUTHOR IS CRAZY HE ISN'T SCARED TO KILL OFF ALL HIS CHARACTERS UNLIKE OTHER AUTHORS
Ok and? Who cares about these deaths? You forget about them 5 minutes later because the characters are all paper thin blank slates who are completely interchangeable. Even the forced on backstory flashback, I felt nothing when Nobara died. She was never important to the story. Her death also had no payoff besides turning JOBji into an edgelord for the reminder of the Mahito fight.
>Final boss wins
>best character is a jobber with no secret ability
the fact that this homie survived so much shit implying he was hiding something was the most infuriating part about his death
I actually like the themes of jjk of individual strength vs just jumping people and being selfish vs selfless. On the outlook, JJK makes it seem like being a selfish butthole is how you be strong, but going about it totally the other way makes you someone with no will or consciousness.
>Have two actually cool characters
>Kill one, irreparably cripple the other within three episodes
>Left with the most generic shonen protagonist of all time, whose only standout feature is that it would have been better for everyone if he were killed as soon as the series started
>Muh stakes
do they really not give todo some kind of mechanical arm later on? who the frick wrote this shit
Probably because it needs a REAL hand for his CE to work.
>claps his literal open wound and it still works
by this logic he should be able to clap his arm if anything but maybe that was just le epic anime moment that he can never do again. shonen moment i guess
>speedwatcher
It didn't work, he bluffed to get Mahito to attack behind him.
are you stupid
It was a bluff, moron.
his literal open wound and it still works
It didn't work, it was a feint that made Mahito guard behind him
but it didnt work dumbass
I glanced at a jjk thread on a once and they said yuji was developing soul manipulation as his technique and wi likely fix Todo eventually. Did I get rused? I've not read since the start of the culling game barring a few chapters when Gojo died and the comedy showdown
we still don't know yuji's technique. all we know is
>noritoshi and choso have both been teaching him something (and they're both blood manipulators)
>yuji ate the remaining 6 cursed wombs
>yuki gave yuji a book of hers that supposedly has a bunch of info
>yuji now has a pair of armored arms that look similar to yuta's from his fight in the sendai colony
>and pic related
so basically a bunch of speculation and new hints and 0 actual confirmations on what any of this means yet. hopefully in the sukuna fight something gets revealed.
Dont forget Sukuna felt something unusual when he blocked Yuji's punch.
How can Sukuna escape the trial?
I mean, the trial stole his weapon and the sword cant kill him if he doesnt get hit... All he needs to do is to kill higuruma without getting hit by his sword.
Seems hard to do.
By the way, is this the first time that a final boss of a manga is hit by a very peculiar gimmick attack? usually those characters get filtered out before the final battle or their powers don't work at all.
Keeping to the actual topic, pic related is still my favourite example of this
>secret boss is the first boss of the franchise, who secretly survived
>final boss dies of aids
>nuShonen
Slop.
why is that dude's right hand like 2x as big as his left hand?
By the way, the guy on the right is dead now as guy with katana appeared outta nowhere and sliced his head clean off.
>JRPG
>The best party member is temporary
>>>38 seconds
MY BUROZHA
Why is the art for this manga so fricking bad. The anime is carying this soo fricking hard.
Sukuna's killing everyone and wins, the end.
I can't get invested into this series. I just don't give a shit about any of the characters. They are all the same generic stoic apathetic card board cut outs who are also all 200 iq geniuses who go "just according to keikaku" all the time in every fight. The fights aren't that great either since most powers aren't very creative and just boil down to different colored punches, slashes and beams.
Mahito specifically is annoying, because all his fights boil down to the exact same formula. That homosexual spams long range attacks until the sorcerer he is fighting ice skates to him at which point he gets overpowered but can't take any fricking damage due to muh "you didn't touch my soul" bullshit and then he can end the fight by just simply touching his opponent, except sometimes it just arbitrarily doesn't work like when he tried it for the first time against Nanami. I hate his stupid fricking powers so fricking much. Shape shifting + immortality + one hit kill doesn't make for exciting fights.
>party member with highest STR is female
>exploit allows you to kill the final boss with a single attack
>Gets written out of the arc since him and the chameleon would've trivialized the whole thing
It's like that bug in FF2 where you reflect Toad at an enemy or something and it deletes them.
Togashi would've written it so that Meryem's Nen was too powerful to be teleported away from his body, so it instead shunted him into the floor or something. He would've gotten up and did a 360 degree tail swipe, killing both of them.
More Naruto than MHA? Every MHA character is just two Naruto characters combined. Deku and All Might are literally Rock Lee and Might Guy.
>female party member permanently dies halfway through the story
She didnt die.
How come JJK & CSM are the only half decent shonen to be released in the last 5/10 years?
Feels like everything else is either copying Naruto, to some degree, or is just boring and uninspired.
Dandadan has potential thought, but its yet to do anything noteworthy besides some good panels
I really, really dont get CSM. Like the whole appeal is the mc being a complete loser moron and I dont see how that is interesting at all
The appeal is that the mc is a constantly developing character who survives a nightmarish shithole life by the skin of his teeth even though he's basically Jesus as far as the setting is concerned.
tbf the whole reason the MC is a loser moron is because hes been living alone in a shack with only his pet dog since childhood being treated like a slave by the mafia. It makes sense why he is the way he is
JJK and CSM both copied Naruto's most important thing, the character dynamics. They just happen to also take inspiration from better things than fricking Naruto, gege takes heavily from togashi and type moon while CSM takes after devilman and flcl
KNY is better than both tbh
KNY is too by the books for my liking. Didn't feel like it innovated or did anything new.
Also it doesn't help that most of the arcs are basically just Hashira member + Tanjiro Vs member of Upper/lower moon
>How come JJK & CSM are the only half decent shonen to be released in the last 5/10 years?
Because you only pay attention to mainstream shit
How do you not know Fire Punch if you know Chainsaw Man?
Also Golden Kamuy is better than everything mentioned in your post
>Golden Kamuy
not a shonen
Golden Kamuy is fricking great, but it isn't shounen it's seinen.
yuji will punch sukuna really hard and defeat him in the end.
This is my genuine issue with JJK
Series generally escalate and that's whats happened in JJK, but usually the MC's powers improve with the story...
Yuji is like, the Yajirobe of the series. He's gotten powerscaled so hard and has made zero progress. Literally all he has is PUNCH.
Isn't it more or less confirmed Gege didn't want to write JJK the way it's been written, but had to make a lot of changes because editorial wanted it to be more marketable, and that he's tired of working on it?
He could just be pulling a "Prison School" and dragging his most successful work into the mud because he's sick of working on it and wants it to be done and salt the earth for the franchise.
Man, today's mangakas can't panel for shit.
Alright, I just took a hit of copium. How's this sound.
>Gojo made a point early on about being a teacher and helping his students surpass him as the strongest to fight the curses of tomorrow, essentially
>Nobara is strongly implied to be dead, but not confirmed
>Megumi is strongly inferred to be dead, or potentially crippled beyond use, but not confirmed
>Yuji's around, suffering
>What if Nobara comes back, Megumi comes back, both reuniting with Itadori, all stronger for having experienced what they have
>Despite having not really taught them shit, Gojo's students have been through hell and come out the other side stronger
>And they kaisen all over the bad guys
Am I delusional?
Didn't read your post, but I can say with confidence: you're delusional.
I mean, in the latest chapter higoruma says there is a possibility of his "death penalty" sword to not kill megumi in the process, so they're still assuming megumi is alive and can still be saved somehow.
pretty delusional tbh. if nobara comes back at all she'll probably be bodyjacked by kenny. we don't know for sure if megumi is technically dead yet since higuruma speculates that they can save him with executioner's sword, but they don't know if it'll actually work and there's a pretty good chance they're just wrong seeing how wrong they were about deadly sentencing taking sukuna's technique.
i'd say todo has a better chance of coming back than anyone else.
is this the one where one of the main villains took over the protags mom and took backshots so he could go through the whole process of birthing the protagonist
>not reading the PEAKest shonen