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Final Fantasy 16 first week sales
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I dont care about sales just about having fun
>Game just released
>Only like 3 threads up
Damn, you homies talk the talk but none of you could afford a PS5?
People are playing/working/waking up. Wait until it's nighttime in relevant countries
>People are coping
Gotcha
Translation: just you wait until my discord troon MMO guild from California shows up to shill and samegay with me.
One would assume theyre busy playing the game, no?
Sorry, I forget you aren't allowed to post on Ganker while gaming
Not if you wanna get spoiled, no.
Technically I could, but why would I when I can play this game with better settings once it's out on PC?
This. It is formidable to see what a bit of patience can do for you.
lmao you seriously bought a PS5 for this troony game?
I'm simply not buying a console for one game again. Especially when its a timed exclusive with a confirmed pc port at some point.
I got Xbox because I wanted Starfield, looks like I made the right call
bought a ps4 for bloodborne and digimon. digimon came to pc and bloodborne doesn't have the same replayability as something like elden ring
consoles this gen are fricking dogshit, including the switch but at least the switch has games (assuming your computer is somehow so bad you can't emulate them)
Going back to 30fps is giving me a headache
How much did 15 sell in it's 1st week?
Are you moronic? It's literally the OP image
where the frick is 15 named in OP's image?
It's literally the first line, anon...are you okay?
nani
Above Pokémon Sun and Moon for the 3DS.
barry is losing it guys...
>690,471.
>not even aiming for 7re's 1 million in japan.
pathetic.
Was 7re exclusive tho?
Yes
welp
xv had higher sales since they announce in December xv was 1.1m
7R was only 1m at that same amount of time and xv had higher physical
>December xv was 1.1m
1 month later, 7remake was first 3 days
we had this argument already barry. You couldn't prove XV's digital sales were 300+k in the first week.
it being mentioned by sony a month later doesn't mean thats the date it hit that number
xv was 1.1m at launch
7r 1m
xv was higher physical too
see
You can not prove XV's digital sales were over 300k in the first 3 days.
See
xv has higher physical at launch and well into week 6 throug 13 and we know it was 1.1m by latest week 4
You aren't going to prove XV had 300k+ in the first week because it didn't.
Since 7re had 200+k (just physical only) after its first month, that also means that
>7re: 1.2 million after a month
>XV: 1.1 million after a month
so you lose either way. You just have to keep coming up with more copes.
XV has higher physical
stop coping already
>posts made up numbers
>XV has higher physical
And 7re has higher overall, which is the only thing that matters.
>posts made up numbers
you posted the chart with the physical numbers. I only added the first month totals.
nope xv is 1.1m and 7r is 1m
>7r is 1m
1.2 m, additional 200k from only physical based on your chart that you yourself posted.
Based on that same chart, XV only said 200k or less digital after the first month.
So you still lose no matter how many more copes you come up with.
>more fake numbers
that 7r number is digital sales plus shipment, not sold through to customer
stop coping
xv had higher physical
>that 7r number is digital sales plus shipment, not sold
Oh but it is, because its based on the same source that you're using.
>xv had higher physical
And lower overall, the only stat that matters.
nope its shipment plus digital
xv is higher overall
>shipment plus digital
Just like XV's.
XV is still less.
But FF7r was exclusive so that kills your argument anyway
bro you actually think xbox is a thing in japan? just so you knew xv sold like 4000 on xbox in japan and its the highest selling xbox game in japan
It will probably beat it, snoys are hungry
OP is about Japanese numbers specifically and at this point I don't think there are enough actual PS5 owners in Japan to beat that number. There still hasn't been a PS5 game that's passed 100k in its launch week there yet.
I hate this game cuz everyone has that XIV phenotype it's horrifying
As a wise man said:
>MMO devs = MMO quality = Do not Play
Translation: Nintendo didnt make a succesful mmo so we decided mmos are bad now
>now
I still can't believe do not play gays were completely right
The truth always seems absurd in a time of Lies.
I played XIV for the better part of a decade so I knew the game was going to be awful. Hell the side quest that has you serving food uses the exact same camera work where clearly the food just appears on the table. It's honestly so fricking bad.
MMOs are purely validation machines. Hence why they need to appear "popular". People play the games to have "friends" of a sort. Not even by interacting, simply by being in the same world it satisfies this need.
after getting garuda powers the game opens up a lot, I am having legitimate fun right now ngl
Do you enjoy going around looking for questgivers friend who went missing #12 and you have to find them before theyll help you?
MMO Devs...
Same, love exploring the map
There's an Xbox One game in the top 20
There was an XSX game in the Top 10 last week too. Diablo 4.
I got tricked by the title and that was what gave it away for me, that's all.
An Xbox ONE title, that's from years ago lol
Barry... are we going to be ok? I'm thinking our smear campaign isn't quite working. Maybe we shouldn't have chose Ganker as the target, sis....
>700k
Already too much. Frick Square.
People just don't care about FF games anymore.
I'm willing to bet the Persona games are more popular.
I like both FF and Persona.
And what really mind breaks Ganker is I also enjoy Xenoblade Chronicles.
>weeb likes weeb games
shocker
FF used to be mainstream.
>used to be mainstream.
You act like being a weeb isn't mainstream at this point.
Fair point, but I don't consider people who watch mainstream shows like One Piece and Demon Slayer weebs
I can agree but etymology will disagree with time. The whole "im such a nerd!" or "im such a gamer!" thing will apply to "im such a weeb!" eventually as well. That word won't really mean much outside of just being used to describe someone that watches anime, regardless of how mainstream it is.
Because players were very few and most of them had an interest in the medium. Now most players are normalgays who don't give a shit about videogames, they just want to kill some time.
How much did the last persona sell tho?
We don't know. They only release sales numbers for "P5 series" and that is the whole shebang - both vanilla and royal, all spin offs, all platforms. The "all platforms and both versions" shit muddies the waters QUITE a bit, since theres a ton of people that double or triple dipped (some people bought the ps3 and 4 versions of vanilla, then royal, and some bought the pa5 version of royal after that- its a whole thing).
Overall, the entire series sold 9 million since 2016.
It will get 200k sales tops.
>PS brand is in the gutter in Japan
>to add insult to injury the game shuns any japanese identity the franchise had and goes full western pandering
>japanese dub isn't lip synched and yoshida told japs to play with english dub and jap subs
>to add insult to injury the game shuns any japanese identity the franchise had and goes full western pandering
Yeah, I already saw a couple of japs complain over the sex and violence
>PS brand is in the gutter in Japan
I really hate that this context will be completely lost in all of these sales discussions. The PS5 install base is hilariously low compared to previous console generations. Exclusivity has pretty much ensured that this game will sell like dogshit regardless of quality of the game.
>to add insult to injury the game shuns any japanese identity the franchise had and goes full western pandering
It's Japanese as frick through. The later half of the game basically goes full Naruto.
'Mug GoT' is basically a bait & switch which mostly sticks around with the visual style.
FF16 will be lucky to sell 300k in Japan
It should be more worried about whether it can beat FF Type-0
Why the frick do you Black folk care so much about sales, are you SE bookies?
it determines who won
less sales = kino niche game
more sales = mass appeal goyslop
xvi cultists already on damage control over their game of thrones mass appeal attempt slop
nah I have no interest in ffxvi.
Looks like a boring button masher with no depth
a handful of groups here dont like xiv/yoshi p so they want this to tank so they can act smug about it for a few weeks
And those that do like xiv and yoshi also want it to fail so he can go back to focusing on their mmo content drought. 14 fans have been b***hing about 16 nonstop since the last expac.
the brand itself depends on sales. if it doesn't do well, it could mean the end of FF good
>PS5 exclusive
It won't be that high
PS5 games sales has fallen off a cliff in Japan, FF16 is going to have the lowest ever FW sales in mainline FF history.
This is, without a doubt, THE CRINGIEST thing to appear in a Final Fantasy in the entire series history. There has never been something so embarrassingly stupid in 15 entries and then they just happen to do a stupid fricking anime fight.
Luckily it was in the demo so I don't have to pay money for this fricking shit
>worst soundtrack in the entire series
>worst performance in the entire series
>worst story other than XIII
>worst gameplay other than II
what a fricking disaster
The english dub is so bad
i really want this "le british theater actor" meme to die
It's really bad, Xeno tier bad.
So, when is this coming to PC? Six months? Sony should drop this exclusivity homosexualry, MS already did.
>Six months?
It'll probably be closer to 18 months. They've gone on record saying they don't want a repeat of FF7R which took a year.
They do have a 6 month exclusivity deal, but I would work under the assumption that they want to spend at least a year on the port. I'd estimate it taking longer.
If I was putting money on it, I'd say holiday season 2024.
Oh, well, YT for me then.
If it hits 350,000 everyone will call it a great success because of 50% digital ratio.
moronic Square Enix boomers boomers (40-50+ year olds) still believe their trash movie games can move console hardware and they have enough console warring fanboys to back up Sony exclusivity, lol. For normal people buying FF16 became a worthless endeavor the moment its plot got leaked.
Normal people don't care about game leaks, anon.
Proof?
The fact that normal people don't spend every waking hour terminally online and just buy whatever new game they are advertised to on TV.
>buy whatever new game they are advertised to on TV
Are you posting from 2006?
That is still very much reality, anon.
I always love when I see people here think that the average person follows all these video game forums or regularly reads through gaming articles from gaming news sites.
The average consumer doesn't give a shit. They walk around times square and see a big Diablo 4 advertisement on a big ass TV and just go buy the game, play it for a couple hours, and never touch it again.
most ads are served up on phones now. Now one is seeing video game ads on tv.
>twitch
>youtube
>streaming services
I put all these in the same bucket as "TV" because I'm old and moronic. Sue me.
Because most people who buy games are not obsessed with them, they're not nerds. They don't scourge the internet for info and wait for someone to unleash their early copy, they just buy the game day 1 or 2 or w/e and are content with that.
At most a non-nerd can get an early copy cause they buy at a store that breaks street date.
Leaks, following leaks and downloading pirated roms/isos/etc early is a nerd thing. Especially emulating them on a powerful pc: most average people own average desktops or laptops.
Hell, Square is actually doing a good job to keep the wider masses spoiler-free despite the leak. You have to go to imageboards or discords tied to them to get info.
And this is without getting into nerds who have a casual enjoyment of FF or simply avoid spoilers.
You are giving too much weight to spoilers and leaks. You'll see when most people here actually reach the end of the game: you'll get another wave of threads. It always happens with every game that gets leaked.
How old are you? Spoilers circulate freely on Twitter, you don't need to go out of your way to find them.
I browse the FF16 tags all the time, never saw a single spoiler or leak.
My man every single ff thread is like sub 90 IPs it’s like two samegays
I've been playing the game for several hours already and my main disappointment is that, while there is an option to pet Torgal, there's no such option to pet Jill.
cant wait for next weeks famitsu thread
its going to be a shitshow with barry shitting on FF16 and eric propping it up
I genuinely don’t know if it’s going to crack 300k week one in Japan.
>https://twitter.com/TheSphereHunter/status/1671543109505933312
Sisters... why doesn't Suzi sound enthusiastic about the game? She's made several videos for XV but I don't think she's goona do the same thing for XVI... It's almost like Barry was right...
>She's made several videos for XV
XV sucked tho
>She
Please consider killing yourself
why does that homosexual champion 15 out of all the games
i haven't heard anyone else talking about 16 overheating they're ps5's yet and i know people have had their hands on it for a while,does suzi just have a dusty room or some shit
It wasn't a serious tweet anon, you've been gaslit by doomposters. You would have heard it from digital foundry if it was true.
Sorry doomposter, Suzy loved it.
tendie sisters... our narrative...
wowee zowee
If it's a woman they love XV because most of them are fujo to some degree.
Maybe half that
>IRL name is barry
>also have a humiliation fetish
Final Fantasy threads are better than porn for me.
shut the frick up homosexual goonpig
>less fanarts than Xenoblade 3
It's over. We are going to see a ff game being outsold by xenoblade, kek
I think it's safe to assume 16 will br a grower not a shower after the disastrous 15
16 is disastrous after the fantastic ff15
Hi tendie
That was Yoshi-P's assessment. It is a Sony "exclusive", so they also got a big bag of money from them too.
>49 ips
>XV vs XVI thread
Frick off Barry, you lost
fricking off xvi-kun
Luminous Productions/ffxv devs worked on ff16
oh no was barry's hate misplaced?
Happy for them. They are finally attached to a good game.
>FFXV: Royal Edition
>has everything
>Score goes down from normal edition
lol
dmc4se went down from dmc4
>has to cling to open critic because he knows userscore average BTFO him
also that isnt listing ffxv pc edition which is 85
kek Forspoken must really be bad isn't it?
I have a friend who is a diehard FFXV fan and even he hates Forspoken.
I haven't played it myself, but I'd be lying if I said it didn't interest me somewhat
I think it would have went down a lot better with people if it didn't retail at $70
Maybe down the line I'll see if I can get a cheap preowned copy
Actually ffxv mogged kh3
and luminous devs worked on ff7r and ff16
without luminous devs those games would be ff14 1.0 tier
>trying to lump hfr in there
You mean this userscore average, Bar-Bar?
Nta but you can't say Bar-Bar without Baby, since Barry is a zoomer (like all other XV fans)
I'll be shocked if 16 breaks 300k
>160 pt COMG
probably not. i'd put it at 200k max
Totk had 600 pts on COMG and sold a million in three days
there could be 300k extra pre-orders for FFXVI
totk had 600 last day but was over 1000 first day after release
oh shit, you're right. that's insane.
FFXVI's numbers will show up in next week Famitsu, not this one.
>Comparing a break out success to a series that's been in decline for 2 decades
We have previous FF COMG numbers, there's no reason to believe it would suddenly do 4x more than preorders suggest
So no numbers at all? Do we have photos where XVI sold out everywhere in Japan?
the only numbers we have to go on are the amount of people who playing it on psnprofiles, which isnt a lot
Don't you need to register on that website to be counted? I don't think that website is a good representative.
You have to do a little math based on known sales of other games vs numbers on the site, You cant just look at the number but it's a good sample size for estimates
Literally don't give a frick, I'm playing the game myself and the only metric that matters to me is if I like it.
Where is the Famitsu thread, I wanna laugh at tendies
on friday
xv is more
cope
I accept the concession.
Nathan you lost
Doesnt Famitsu always show up on Thursday?
Why next week? Doesnt this Famitsu include all sales from last week to today?
>Doesnt this Famitsu include all sales from last week to today?
No, it's Monday to Sunday. This week's data is Jun 12th to Jun 18th
I'm not going to screenshot this but be careful what you wish for
THIS is what people are raving about?
3 hours in 75% cutscenes, 25% gameplay if even that!
>QTEs door opening sequences
>Shimmying past rocks ala XV and VIIR
>Linear as frick and the overworld is a goddamn map
>Staggering enemies just for a temporary opener to wail on them (FFXIII)
>On rails boss fights
>Lack luster characters
>Linearity (FFX is more open than this! This is FFXIII levels of linear!)
>Cutscene after cutscene
Why does this gets a goddamn pass that other games in the mainline got slandered for!?
I got news for ya…
Don't give (you)s to pasta
>FF16 threads get barely any traction on release day
Its over... Even RE4 remake had like 20 shitty threads up within 10 minutes
because re4 was available on more than one platform moron
Are there no first day sale numbers for XVI?
this is not like movie box office, there isn't immediate sales number on the first day, maybe by Monday they might release sales if its crazy like "5 million in 3 days"
It's probably not going to do as well because it's not multiplat and honestly it's just not got as much hype. FF isn't a guaranteed worthwhile experience any more, and hasn't been for the last 20 years. After the mess of FFXII, XIII XIV and XV, I'm going to run with the hot take that it will take a solid month to reach a Milly in Japan, and won't hit 4m worldwide in the first month
It will never hit a million in japan on PS5 alone
It's somehow crazy to me that the majority of big brand games don't sell more than 200k and even the absolute top games are selling less than a million. Considering that there are 8 billion+ humans around and that most of them can play games now you would expect everything to sell well, Instead the majority sells a few thousand copies, maybe 100-200k
In Japan, those big brand games were skipping Nintendo platforms for decades now. Playstation's death in the Japanese market means AAA 3rd party death in the Japanese market
I am honestly baffled that people still buy that shit to begin with. My last PS was PS2, I refuse to buy a console for like two exclusive games that I probably never play anyway and I don't watch tv so I have no tv screen and already have more than enough cables connected to my PC and screen and no free space anyway. I get why people buy Nintendo maybe but not PS or xboxes.
>Playstation's death in the Japanese market means AAA 3rd party death in the Japanese market
No, the AAA 3rd party's death in the Japanese market was entirely their fault. They followed the western market instead of continuing to cater to their home market. Now Square Enix is using its AA RPGs to fund its biggest projects because Final Fantasy has been losing them money since Lightning, except for 14 ofc.
The switch has the most japano games so that's the platform every weeabo and animegay I know is using besides PC/steam.
Yes
Without counting 14 they're losing money. Including 14 is just them breaking even with how overbudgeted 13 and 15 were.
Did Toriyama have dirt on the execd or something? Hiw the frick did he get two sequels? I dont think 13-3 has ever managed to cross a million units
FF13 sequels were made re-using assets, so they were much cheaper.
>Without counting 14 they're losing money
You got that backward moron.
Because of XIV 1.0 they went into the red.
>overbudgeted 13 and 15 were
which is wrong. XIII was so successful it got 2 sequels. XV was successful that it got the team that made it its own studio.
Because they fricked it up right after doesn't mean either game were flops.
>Final Fantasy has been losing them money since Lightning
Wrong.
Never playing FF again after the shit show of XV
Blizzard wins again baybeee
It's not even a ff game, it's a got knockoff made in japan.
>XV was such a failure that it was turned into Farmville
>all its DLC were canceled
This is XVs legacy...
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/zq2PV7vRtxA
LMAO
XV homosexuals BFTO'D
People make fun of Nomura being mad over what happened to Noctis but if I saw my creation wrenched away and treated this way I'd probably be livid too
At least he still has Sora under his 5 belts, assuming Disney don't do a complete 180 and start messing with KH without his input
We're entering the age of movie adaptations of games thanks to Sonic and Mario, Disney will probably try to use KH.
>People make fun of Nomura being mad over what happened to Noctis but if I saw my creation wrenched away and treated this way I'd probably be livid too
It wasn't just his /creation/. Nomura wanted to comment on current events and world affairs through Versus 13 which is why he called it a fantasy based on reality. Meanwhile reality in 15 is just brands and cars and smartphones, the graphics didn't even look photorealistic kek
>Nomura wanted to comment on current events and world affairs through Versus 13 which is why he called it a fantasy based on reality
>visual novel kino from the chuuni madlad himself
WE WERE ROBBED
There's a reason he's so fricking livid about it that he's basically trying to still make it through "Verum Rex" in Kingdom Hearts.
wanted to comment on current events and world affairs
People thought an edgefest like this was going to be good?
Being based on current events isn't necessarily edgy kid.
10 had the right balance of political intrigue/commentary and sentimentality. That's what FF is. Sentimental, colorful almost Disney/Ghibli-esque fantasy with some social and philosophical dilemmas in the background. 10 and 9 are the peak of Final Fantasy for this reason and edgy 'muh real world politics' Nomura needs to get his head checked.
>10
>political intrigue
Anon 10 is about how religious freaks and conservatives are the worst and ruin everything. Its politics couldn't be more modern. Sorry that flew over your head.
>Anon 10 is about how religious freaks and conservatives are the worst and ruin everything. Its politics couldn't be more modern. Sorry that flew over your head.
You sound like Stellagay so much it's pissing me off
Who the hell is Stellagay?
Stellagay means winner anon because she CAN'T STOP WINNING.
that's not even a difficult read of the story, spira is so completely up its own ass about its traditions that they discourage if not outright forbid research of sin of any kind and demonize the al bhed for doing so anyways
I'm sorry you had to learn about the FFX story this way anon.
>Stellagay
Nta but it's crazy, because she said she didn't know what Toriyama was "trying to say" in 13 and 10. But could go on about how 12 was 'clearly' or whatever about ending nuclear war.
Lurk more.
Actually xv sold better than any ff and all canon DLC released
meanwhile ff16 is dead on arrival
How come its the laughing stock then.
It isn't. It's the best ff game since 9
16 so far is only a laughing stock to one specific horse-toothed Aussie national that's not actually laughing, he's yelling "HAHAHAHAHA" through clenched teeth and a tight butthole
Anon, he was asking why 15 was a laughing stock, not 16.
If she were here, she'd say 16 is the best FF game since 12, SoP and 7 Remake. She won.
ff15 was oure kino
Because selling well doesn't necessarily equal a high level of quality. Nor does it even mean that it's liked (or loved) by the people that did buy it, especially years afterwards
Is that why Tabata got fired and the team dissolved?
How come it was turned into Farmville then? And why were all the DLCs canceled AND Tanabata was fired??
I'm not convinced there's even 690,471 PS5s in existence
My guess is the sales will be abysmal until it finally reaches PC
This rivalry between 15 and 16 is so artificial. It only exists on this board.
It's pretty obvious that any normie fan of 15 will be a fan of 16. They're both action FF games. 15 selling well it's the best indication that 16 will sell well too.
Admittedly I’ve never gelled with a FF game much but from what I’ve picked up, I think it’s funny that Clive is the same exact kinda depresso espresso edgelord (oh but actually he’s a sweetheart that cares about his friends, honest) as the previous games main dude, Noctis, except no one calls Clive a loser the way noctis has been riffed on for years.
Is it just because he has sex?
No its because the execution is way different.
He's also not really Noctis, he's more like FF Jon Snow - down to the brooding sulleness
Noctis due to how the game went was kind of a wet towel, cant speak for how Clive is though.
Jack remains the best recent one either way i bet.
The funniest part about Noctis is he has more actual character development and opportunity for said development in FF14's crossover event than he does in the majority of his own game
Noctis and Clive aren't even that similar. Noctis isn't brooding, he's chill and kind of a brat and he's not even that disliked. There are plenty of people who like him and just think his game is shit.
the game is shit, the music isn't memorable at all, the story is crap game of thrones try hard shit, the combat is fricking garbage, the graphics are mid, it's not open world and so is just a bunch of pretty corridors, it's not a FF game at all and the few FF tropes in there he was forced to keep in
Only reason ff fanboys are saying it's good is cause it's different, but once the novelty wears off you'll see it for what it is.
is it on steam?
Yeah next year
Some time next year most likely. Yoshida may or may not be lying out his fricking ass about a PC port taking a while, I see zero reason the game would 100% be made for the PS5 and need a lengthy, laborious port; he's not moronic.
No, but it'll get ported eventually.
What was the install base for the PS4 at the time, and how many PS5 are currently in Japan?
>tf why is cod and bf that low?
>japanese sales
The PS5 install base doesn't seem that big for 16 to sell that well, even Yoshi-P talked about it.
But then again, the PS5 has no games, so what else would its install base buy?
The Japanese PS5 owners bought it for Hogwarts
Why?
Was Hogwarts next-gen only?
HP is famous in Japan and the used PS5 market was growing
>The PS5 install base doesn't seem that big for 16 to sell that well, even Yoshi-P talked about it.
>But then again, the PS5 has no games, so what else would its install base buy?
>Yoshi-P playing the long game
FRICK
They probably get a stipend for every PS5 sold from Sony or some shit lmao
There's no way this game will sell that much week one when it's a PS5 exclusive
Didn't the game come out today? There's already people sales speculating? My guess is 90% of this thread does not own a ps5
Forget shills, why does every 16 thread insist on featuring that dumb Versus/Nomura simp namegay now?
He's mentally ill. Many such cases in SE threads.
Because you homosexuals love getting attentions prostitutes attention
Like how Barry lives rent free in the heads of 90% of the fanbase
For some time, I just thought SE fans where Zoomposting
SE fans on this website are genuinely some of the worst people to talk about video games with
Nintendo and Capcom fans can be pretty bad but nowhere near as autistic and insecure about their games.
>some of the worst people to talk about video games with Nintendo and Capcom fans
I mean Sonygays don't even classify as games and should go to Ganker, so technically correct.
I would put Blizzdrones as the top morons on the site anyway.
>Lead Combat Designer Takeo Kujiraoka
Yeah why is no one talking about this? He shines as a non-director, NT cooked him too early
because he's a literal who that worked under people who actually were in charge of the combat.