>You lived long enough to see Final Fantasy be good again
I never thought I would see this day ever again. It feels good bros
FINAL FANTASY IS BACK
>You lived long enough to see Final Fantasy be good again
I never thought I would see this day ever again. It feels good bros
>Nomura and Yoshi P saving this company
Based
Nomura's the one that ran it into the ground.
That’s not Toriyama, Kitase, Tabata or Nojima. Nomura has been the one carrying this company until he finally got some help with Yoshi P
I would say it is more like the suits, SE got majorly fricked for 15 years because of business decisions impacting their developmen. Nothing kills this company, seriously
It is no coincidence that after they changed presidents in 2014 and 15 released they started their comeback.
I wonder what's gonna happen now now that the old CEO got kicked out.
I dont know, matsuda got insane at the end with the nft bullshit but he was amazing and great in the long run, brought SE back.
The new CEO seems at least more in touch with the players, as we can see in the FF16 pre-release event. I hope this also happens with his decisions.
Nomura is not responsible for Final Fantasy XIII, he had XV confiscated from him, and he wanted FFVIIR to stick to the original story.
Nomura is forever based because of The World Ends With You. Fricking sucks it’s going to die because Square is absolutely moronic with marketing
the game wouldn't have sold even if it had marketing
I think TWEWY is way more niche than its fans like to admit. It probably did worse numbers than it should've due to marketing, but it was never going to do great numbers.
This, they talk like their game would have Pokémon numbers with good marketing.
Calm down with the insane hyperbole. No one has ever expected Twewy to do insane numbers, but if they had actually marketed it, it could've gotten enough to justify a continued support, like Trials of Mana Remake or the Team Asano games
>hifi rush if made by an autist chunni instead of a marvelslop neckbeard
lmao
They're not even remotely similar
It's a pretty niche concept m8
That revisitionist history at play here kek. Twewy had massive marketing. It had cutouts at every store, a tv show, was mentioned on multiple japanese podcasts. Released at a time with absolutely no competition and the best it did was pic. It was absolute garbage, had ton of marketing, had nomura shill it like his life depended on it and it still was one of the biggest flops possible.
>Twewy had massive marketing. It had cutouts at every store
At what stores?
>a tv show
For the first game and the anime sucked. We’re talking about NEO in particular.
>was mentioned on multiple japanese podcasts
And those are?
Let’s look at what happened.
>sequel to a niche, 14 year old game
>said game is not available on 2/3 platforms
>expecting anime to cover that when not every player watches anime
>said anime is also rushed as hell and doesn’t even cover A New Day, which ties directly into NEO
>PC mustard race complaining about Epic and no Steam so either waiting or boycotting the game completely
Don't group 7 Remake with your westernized troony shit, homosexual
>7 censored
>a fricking belt no one notices is censorship
homie you pulled the "westernized" card first
the 7 remake is more westernized than XVI will ever be
>inb4 muh heckin euro fantasy
yeah but breasts and ass lmao
>A Nomura game adds a belt to a character in his game
>Nomura
>belts
stop the presses
Will there ever be a JRPG in the series again?
Both of the games in the op are rpgs made in Japan
No they are not. One is a hack and slash, and the other is a mess of gameplay systems jumbled together
Both are jrpgs
no, only arpgs inspired by wrpgs and western media.
If you mean turn based, I don't doubt there will be another mainline turn based game marketed as a return to form, or a game for old fans, etc. It's an inevitability.
Pick unrelated? 7R fricking sucked and so did the demo for XVI.
They're jrpgs, just shitty ones.
No turnbased combat, no Final Fantasy
Simple as.
No. You cant even call it a JRPG kek
>No turnbased combat, no Final Fantasy
Goodbye FF4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 11, 12, 14, 15...
>WAAA WAAA ATB ACKTUALLY ISNOT TURN BASED
Here's the typical homosexual
They said "no turn-based, no FF". They're not turn-based.
maybe change the criteria a bit
You're being pedantic.
The broader point is that turn-based games are typically focused on making individual mechanics and moves more complex because the player has more time to consider their choices.
There's a reason that, at least in AAA games, as you speed gameplay up, you reduce the complexity of each decision the player has to make. Because most people have a limited amount of brain power to make use of at any given moment and when you're gaming, you don't want to be asked to solve a quantum wave form equation to fire your gun in Doom.
As game speed goes down, complexity of individual decisions goes up and vice versa (generally speaking)
You're arguing a different point than what was being responded to, though. A very broad proclamation that "if it's not turn-based, it's not FF" is demonstrably false, which is what's being pointed out.
Right but that's why I said it's pedantic to point out the difference. ATB FF and true turn-based FF are clearly designed with similar maxims of how complex a character's kit could be or how much complexity a random encounter could be. Those basic principals are different from how an action game like XV, Remake or XVI were designed.
And if you want to see what it looks like when you try to do both, look at Nioh. The number of stats, builds and attacks you can have in that game is more akin to how an RPG would handle player capabilities. But the actual encounters you get into are clearly designed from the action side of things.
SoP and XVI are both action games with RPG elements but SoP is trying to have full on RPG character building, surpassing even the turn-based/ATB FF games in many ways, while also trying to have real-time action gameplay. XVI, by contrast, is clearly streamlining a shit ton on the character-building and combat options side of things to make things less overwhelming in the heat of a true real-time battle.
My issue with that is that it ignores how the ATB system completely changes how you interact and judge abilities compared to actual turn-based combat.
As an example, if you get some counter ability in a true turn-based game, it's obvious this is what it is since something is happening out of turn.
However, in something like FF4 (true FF4, not the SNES version that removed this mechanic), Zeromus will counter your use of Bahamut by using I THINK Bio/Virus (forgot the exact ability), but you won't necessarily understand that since you don't actually know when the boss is supposed to act.
It's similar, but not the same thing.
Good point, absolutely correct.
I think I just felt that ATB always tried to sell itself as having this element of speed to try to keep RPGs relevant against other genres of game but rarely included instances where waiting or reacting was a major part of enemy encounters
That's actually true enough, in like probably 95% of encounters, the difference between turn-based and timer/cooldown-based ATB is almost negligible. It's USUALLY going to be a similar thought process going into what decisions you make.
Yeah
I just remember in basically every ATB FF game there's always that first boss fight in the beginning that has an invincibility stage you have to wait out and then you can attack.
And then you basically never think of it again (except, like you mentioned, with some boss fights in 4 (which I actually feel is because that was the first game to use ATB whereas it's an after-thought in the others)).
I actually kind of think it's a weakness in 4, and something I've seen in new players of 4 (the Pixel Remasters and apparently the popularity of the MMO got a bunch of people to try out the classic games). There really needs to be some obvious identifier to show when something is a Counter ability, or else they'll just get stuck with zero understanding they're doing something wrong. Something as simple as a text pop-up at the top saying "Counter: ability name" after the ability is used, or something.
It's been a hot minute since I played 7-9, so I dunno if they had similar abilities but improved by giving a prompt or not.
Absolutely agreed on this too. The older FF games had some general issues with communicating stuff like enemy weaknesses or altered ability states at times, partially due to the hardware and engines they were running in.
It's funny that the best example of this sort of invincibility/counter state in an ATB game is the mist dragon literally just disappearing.
>It's been a hot minute since I played 7-9, so I dunno if they had similar abilities but improved by giving a prompt or not.
I don't remember if any of those games had any enemies with counter states or abilities
I mean the demo only shows a part of the skill tree, but i did see some directional stuff
ATB is functionally turn-based. They added in that timer system to create the illusion of real-time interactions but the thing moves so slowly for both sides of every fight that you're really not at any risk of losing or anything as a result not acting fast enough. Hell, half the menus basically freeze the timers
There's always that one fight in each game that makes you wait before you attack to create the impression that, no, seriously, this time the ATB meter will matter.
But you can just play the games as normal turn based games without changing the way you think of the game or play. Like it's not like you ever have to sit there and get ready to react or anything
It's literally timer/cooldown-based, the "WAIT" option is an option, and doesn't work in every instance.
"Being sorta, maybe kinda like turn-based" is not the same thing as turn-based is the point. Square tampering with systems is a thing.
Complaining that FF's gotten too action-game focused is a valid complaint. Saying "if it's not turn-based, it's not FF" is not.
Apparently no, they just keep shitting out DMC clones with MMO shit forced in.
I just a turn based/ATB/CTB Final Fantasy again... sigh...
No. the RPG part of FF is fricking dead, enjoy your numbers to keep the hamster wheel turning
Rebirth is coming out early next year bro
Doesn't seem like it. I'm just hoping DQ12 doesn't suffer the same fate.
No, now wait for new SaGa
Yeah in about 2 weeks
lol no
I don't know if I'd call FFXVI an RPG.
It's as much of an RPG as God of War 2018 or Horizon Zero Dawn, and people don't call those games RPGs
7Remake is just marginally more involved on its RPG side but it's still pretty minimal compared even to normal FF7 (which was a simplification from FF6)
Turn based has no place in modern triple a budget games. Jesus what can you fricking do to make rolling dice till it goes your way anymore innovative? It's a dead genre
So don't make 70 dollar games. Simple as
You can't use that term, it's racist.
You don't need Final Fantasy anymore. There are so many other wonderful JRPGs these days.
Pic unrelated
>Pic
That's a webm, moron
looks like a shitty unreal engine slop
>P5 reskinned as P3
Why? Can't they just make something new?
Come home to the new Zelda turn based bro. We have all the menu combat you could ask for
No, their new target audience is zoomers
FF basically just became Square's money-cow after Sakaguchi left. It's become whatever they need to make money and survive because god knows they wouldn't be able to survive off of all their non-FF projects.
>Will there ever be a JRPG in the series again?
got'em
Rebirth is. 16 is some shitty Western-pandering Action game.
Rebirth is an ARPG, albeit a great ARPG that merges classic FF battle/party/menu ideas with action gameplay.
FF16 is great FF storytelling but with a completely non-traditional combat system (going full Action Game with a few RPG elements).
Oddly enough, the Eikon battles feel very "FF7 rule of cool" to me, like the FF7 motorcyle sequence. Simple and easy to beat, but feels cool as hell. I actually think that's one spot where 7 Remake slipped on, they tried to add more challenge into it with the motorcycle boss fight (the highway one, not the Roche one), except it wasn't actually challenging and just felt awkward and too long.
Yeah Remake and Rebirth are more action, but they're more an evolution of where you can take Final Fantasy combat. 16 isn't at all and basically a different game entirely.
JRPGs aren't defined by being turned based. But if itbis for you, ilI think there's only atlus shit now.
You're right but they ARE defined by the basic principal of Dungeons and Dragons, which trickled down to Ultima and Wizardry, which are what JRPGs are based on:
You're trying to express something about the world or its characters through numeric and mathematical relationships in gameplay.
How do you convey that metal conducts electricity in a JRPG? By having enemies who are robots or covered in metal be weak to electric abilities.
How do you show that Cecil has overcome his feelings of guilt over hurting others unjustly in the name of his king? You change his class from Dark Knight (who has an ability to hurt many enemies at once at the cost of his own HP) to Paladin (a class that is able to both protect others and heal others in addition to attack).
You can take this philosophy and give it more of an action-game foundation. But XVI seems to just be an action game with FF cutscenes and aesthetic.
JRPG? FFXVI isnt even an RPG bro. Its an action game. I think its clear that we wont get a mainline JRPG ever again.
You'll have to settle for Persona.
you have Bravely Default, and Octopath Traveler
sorry bro, we are no longer the intended audience, time to leave
No, post-Sakaguchi Square are lost and confused.
We will never get a good Final Fantasy again
Post-Sakaguchi Square didn't make a $200M Final Fantasy movie.
>Sakaguchi era: SOUL > profits
>post-Sakaguchi era: DEI/ESG/Woke censorship >>>>> profits >>>>>>> soul
That actual rings true.
You think the movie is soul?
>posts pure SOVL
>does this look like soul?
Look at your gif
It's a webm, not a gif.
SOVL
>the spirit withing
>SOUL
that shit was kojima levels of Hollywood horny on a time you couldn't afford that kind of flops
E-celebs loved 12, 14 2.0-3.55, 7 Remake, and FF0. I loved those games too. And the Dissidia PSP games. FF is fine with Nomura and Yoshida.
STOP WHISPERING
What's he talking about anon?
>I loved those games
Really? Those games can be ok but you LOVE them? Even more than classic real squaresoft games?
It doesn't get more jrpg than Remake homie
We say jarpig around these parts.
XIV is unironically the most soulful FF and JRPG we had in a long time (Shit MMO tho). It legit is the opposite to the rancid GoT shit that XVI is, despite how hard the director tries to shill the latter.
XIV just rips off XI's story.
XVI is much better already.
I guess that is an opinion one can have. I really enjoy the tropes and the fact that no one really dies in XIV, the modern approach to "lets just randomly kill everyone and make it as gritty as possible" just doesn't vibe with me at all. More power to you if you enjoy it, to me it is the worst trend fantasy had to endure ever.
so many shit takes in one short post. impressive..
Well, half good anyway.
Remake is trash though.
>boomers still b***hing about MUH TURNED BASED
Jesus Christ the world has evolved . You should be old enough to understand change and adapting to the times
Remember when people kept saying FF7 Remake would have a turn-based mode? lmao
tbf it technically did
There's nothing categorically wrong with turn based. We just want some turn based mainline FFs once in a while
>THE WORLD EVOLVED
meanwhile Persona 5 is the best-selling one and Pokemon still sells well.
no it didn't.
>7 Rebirth
FF7 remake is fricking hot garbage with its padding and dumb time travel timeline bullshit. Anybody who shills for this garbage has zero standards.
>9 Remake
Yeah and now there's no more cinematic camera angles, just generic behind the back camera with mediocre action gameplay. Just watch.
>rumored 10 remake for the games
homie they frick up the REMASTER. What makes you think they can do a good job remaking the entire game?
>Stupid old-man, still playing turn-based games like Chess
>The world evolved, we have Fortnite now instead
This is what you're saying. You're lacking the understanding that turn-based games have some objective advantages over real-time games
People thinking turn-based game mechanics are "outdated" is not "evolution" or "change", it's legitimate moronation. I'm sorry.
The boomer menace needs to just kys themselves already, like they are legit moronic you can argue with them
ffx is still the best in the series gameplay wise, sorry you just dont get it.
>Final Fantasy has been shit twice as long as it was good
>games used to take a year to make
FF XII (vanilla PS2) is still King.
Good joke
depends. Level/area design? sure. Story and combat? nah.
You added two unnecessary Is after the X.
King of shit games, yeah.
thats the worst one
FFWNG
FF ended at 9 just like the Simpsons ended at season 10.
It ended at 10. It's just that squeenix took the bad aspects of it and made it central to their games after
there's nothing but bad aspects about x
Stellagay is right. Kitase crap is nothing compared to Matsuno KINO (K I N O ).
*combined lifetime sales less than what Zelda or Diablo did in three days*
Final Fantasy is back baby!
Yes dude defend those billion dollar corporations with your life
>I never thought I would see this day ever again. It feels good bros
I does feel good and im very hyped for both games but i kinda feel this success is accidental because of Yoshi-p, nomura and Kitase. the corporate company itself is still beyond moronic.
>this success is accidental
Nothing about it is accidental, at least where xvi is concerned. Yoshida has to be the only business man at SE that knows what he's doing. He was tasked with making mainline FF great again and he took the necessary steps to make that happen.
How far up your ass does your head needs to be to think : "nak, I'm too cool for PC, PS5 only!" in 2023? Like, this is some next level conceit.
My wallet thanks me for going PS5 only this gen. My old trusty 1080 Ti is here to stay until it dies.
1080 is all you really need anyway gpu wise, it's the gpu requirements which are getting insane
>7 Rebirth
>16
>Kingdom Hearts 4
>9 Remake
>rumored 10 remake for the games 25th anniversary
>Dragon Quest 12
Square is so back
Have a webm
if i wanted to watch a movie, i'd watch a movie
>4 second cutscene is too much
god I hate the VII compilation shit
That's not compilation, newbie
That's elena
>Remake is not compilationshit
lmao, great joke
Sometimes i wonder if these homosexuals even remember what happens in ff7 after midgar
Honestly, they dont.
In FF7 threads it is really easy to notice how a big part of these guys probably saw a summary on wikipedia of 7's plot.
KINOOOOOOOO
Hey now that you mention it, what happened to DQXII? They just showed a brief teaser and then went radio-silent
Pretty sure they announced it like right at the start of dev so it's gonna be a while until we see it again
How about you go back to R*eddit.
huh
>9 Remake
Can't wait to see Garnet's 4K upscaled ass
I'm just holding out for Freya for no particular reason whatsoever
>press x, hold R2 ad nauseum
COMPELLING GAMEPLAY
>7 demake
>game of thrones shit
>good
She just needs some good dick.
As if there is dick that exists that is better than the Chad Duke's
>good again
kek, more like butchered beyond repair you delusional homosexual.
fraud
No controllable party members and the big silly Eikon fights were a complete turn off. And to think I didn’t think they could stray further from the core beliefs of what made the FF series with XV.
FF sucks
Is the demo only on PS5 for now? I hate having to turn it on instead of the computer
Play it. It's actually awesome
Just downloaded it. If it's anything less than awesome I'm holding you personally responsible
Thank me later
Not him, but I actually preordered after the demo. I think it'll be greater than the sum of its parts — the demo was a smart move; it left me wanting more.
Curious to hear what you think.
kot
кoшкa
feline
Well an update. I think the pacing is horrible and the combat is boring as frick. Wish I could have just skipped to the later dungeon to see that gameplay without having to sit through hours of tutorial fights and cutscenes for opening doors frick me
I tried it, won't play it even if it's free
I'm trans, btw.
Good to know. have a nice day please.
turn based is boring, get over it
Noo my copy pasted menu simulator isn't complete dogshit!!
I sometimes wonder, if were invented today and came out, how would ADHD zoomers react to it?
zoomers love menu shit. just look at all the p5 troons
P5 sold well because of its UI and music and waifu shit.
That's 90% of that game's appeal. I give you my word, if it played like GoW or Ass Creed or whatever, it probably would have sold better.
Its menu shit was a hinderance to its success, it was carried by the slick UI design and music that is shown in every trailer and screenshot
Zoomers will sit down and watch a 2 hour long video essay about a video game. They're not ADHD.
They'll listen to it while doing something else because the idea of just focusing on something and making it the sole form of information intake is anathema to them.
Zoomers should kill themselves.
>FINAL FANTASY IS BACK
Final Fantasy aren't action games. And thus has not returned.
It's back? Where did it go?
Remember the 13 trilogy, early phases of 14, and 15?
Dark times
Both Remake and FFXVI have more in common with DMC than they do with FF6 or FF9
Having more in common to one of the most interactive fun games ever made. Oh no say it isn't so. Just play on journal mode same amount of effort it takes to play without the time wasted grinding pointless buttons.
I didn't say it wouldn't be fun but I'd hardly consider it to be in the same series as the games that gave Final Fantasy it's foothold in popular culture.
Like, I wouldn't call these games RPGs anymore. I wouldn't call FF an RPG series going forward
16 looks boring sorry
Imagine being so moronic you can't try a free demo before forming an opinion
Imagine being so moronic you actually own a PS5.
any anons here tried out the demo?
is the combat like DMC or more like a mobile action game?
it’s like a simplified dmc with some slight rpg elements
It looks like it has potential to get pretty deep, but not autistically deep like DMC
does it have directional inputs or do you just press the button?
>Here's your gf bro
Left is literally one of the worst games ever, every single thing except the character models and combat is garbage and the combat is also too easy
it has the cringest writing i've ever seen it's like kingdom hearts without the excuse of having a dumb setting and being made for children.
based, after 16 i'm buying Rebirth
kino after kino, what a great time to be a ff gay.
I can't believe people still get excited for compilationshit in 2023
they get excited for fancy graphics and big set pieces.
the big takeaway from Sony's survival from the PS3 era onwards is that spectacle is basically the biggest thing for selling your game and getting rubes excited. Spectacle is nice but it's replaced substance in most AAA games.
I'm extremely glad that FF has been good again these past few years. But I simply don't trust Square Enix leadership to not do something downright stupid and take it down a bad hole at some point. I want Square to do a Capcom-level comeback where I can mostly trust what they put out.
To be honest, everything made by their actual japanese teams(and not luminous, may it rest in peace) usually does well
Now that all their western branch and luminous are gone, i see the path.
I can't believe people still seethe for compilationKINO in 2023
>FFXVI is looking to be kino of the highest order
>FFVIIR part 2 is looking to continue the kino from part 1 and redefine what a remake is supposed to be
>FFXIV is enjoying perpetuated success and has an upcoming expansion
>FF SoP is pure cheese and action for Jackbros, even though it got shit on it has it's place in the era of FF resurgence
Yeah bros, we are back. WE ARE FRICKING BACK. SOVL. KINO.
>posts xiv trash
0 interest in 16. I will buy a PS5 in 2024 specifically to play FF7 rebirth day 1
This. Though I'll get XVI on sale or Steam if it turns out to be way better than expected, but I have a feeling the latter half of the game will be just as shit as FFXV was.
7R is unironically worse than FFXV
brain damage
7R is an F tier game not just in final fantasy but gaming as a whole
Lets not get ahead of ourselves here
XV was far less cringe, writing was less moronic, dialogue and voice acting was a lot better, it wasn't a hallway simulator, only the combat was better in 7r
XV migh've barely had a story, but at least it wasn't a kingdom hearts story.
bruh
>it wasn't a hallway simulator
He doesn't know
How many times did your fat mother drop you on your head as a baby?
You literally never played the game and that’s not even debatable. If you actually played 7r you would know it’s miles better than XV in every way possible
>You literally never played the game and that’s not even debatable.
the game sucks, it's one of the if not the worst RPG I've ever played
it feels so much like XIII is unreal, and the fact you Black folk eat it up because muh le heckin FF7 characters is proof enough you are in dire need of euthanization, the lot of you
XV is shit but IT IS better than 7R, just like it's better than XIII. 7R is only worse than XIII because it manages to take a dump on everything that came before it, just like the rest of BDU1's compilationshit garbage. have a nice day.
>I-I'm not wrong, everyone else is!
kys
lmfao get dumped on Black person
Imagine getting THIS mad because you are objectively wrong
you literally cannot refute me
your only cope was
>y-y-you've never played it!
ad when I proved I did, you melted into name calling because you are an insecure, wrong, and moronic homosexual
Oh great they're multiplying
still can't refute lmao
still btfo'd
eternally so, even
you have to be mentally moronic to tolerate this kingdom hearts writing let alone liking
I enjoyed FFXV more than 7R, but I'm not sure I would go so far as to say FFXV is better.
go try them again, i was in constant state of cringe for the entirety of 7r
yes there was the literal hallway with the ring but that wasn't the entire game
I agree.
This.
Found the tard
There will never be an FF17.
If they're smart, they'll never be an FF17. They need to drop the numbering thing, I know it's tradition and generally used to delineate "main" FFs, but it honestly just sort of makes newer players not want to touch it because they feel like they're missing out by not playing any earlier ones.
As dumb as it might sound, the bigger the number gets, the more intimidating to a new player it gets
Most FF spin offs have been selling pretty poorly the last 10 years or so, which is part of the reason they make so few of them now. Worst thing they could do is drop the numbering and have people confused on what is mainline and what isn't
I honestly think the numbering is a big part of the reason it sells so poorly
>I honestly think the numbering is a big part of the reason it sells so poorly
explain Dragon Quest then. Explain Playstation then.
Dragon Quest sells like complete shit outside of Japan. Playstation is a console, not a video game.
>Single character dark souls clone with real time combat
HARD PASS
>more Compilation trash and a westernized action game
>funded by a WoW clone
Contemporary "FF fans" are just brand-loyalists with zero standards.
>FF7R
>Good
Frick off
>this makes OG purists shit their pants in rage
Love the little melty you're having btw
i've never played the original and i think remake is one of the worst games ever
k
some people just have shit taste anon, it's okay
I 100% believe Roche is simply here to show off the Soldier deterioration they keep hitting us with throughout Remake. He might still have some 1v1s with Cloud in Rebirth, but by the time the 3rd game happens, he'll be so deteroirated as to barely be able to use his sword or ride his cycle. It'll be more of a thing where the player is supposed to pity Roche by the end, and having him be way over-the-top in Remake makes that difference that much more severe.
>good again
I pity you, you just don't get it at all.
just watched the trailer
what the frick am i looking at?
XVI isn't even a final fantasy, it's game of turds with final fantasy looking characters
It's literally Final Fantasy.
>Need to wait 2 years for Rebirth to cone to PC so mods can uncensor Tifa and other shit
Why FF7R got popular after Tifa went from cow breasts to normal breasts is beyond me.
That was a meme that a few chuds actually fell for. Tifa is great in R.
>That was a meme
It was literally confirmed to be censored. The fact I had to wait 2 years to fix her design is moronic.
post fix
>he fell for the meme
How is it a meme?
https://www.nexusmods.com/finalfantasy7remake/mods/669
that looks like complete shit, anon.
It's literally her old look brought to life, how is it shit when it's accurate to the source material?
>accurate to the source material
the proportions don't work in a semi-realistic style, especially when the originals were chibi-overworld and exaggerated combat proportions that most of the other remake characters also don't adhere to 1-to-1.
Her breasts are fricking huge in R. The only actually thing that would be reverting to original style would be removing the athletic black shirt underneath and her black thigh-high socks.
>Her breasts are fricking huge in R
this is the most "I don't know what human beings looks like" post I've ever seen, anon
I don't give a shit about realism.
That's nice. But it's still what it looks like when a moron says her breasts aren't huge when they very obviously are.
They aren't huge. Deal with it troony
again, see
I guess
Reality doesn't care about your feelings, you're basiclaly a troony in though-process by identifying something as small breasts when they're obviously huge on the frame of the person.
>basiclaly
>Tifa demake defender is an ESL
Figures
>ESL
not ESL. But thanks for your concession.
Sure thing pablo.
Sorry I showed your thinking to be idiotic and you clinged to the first misspelling you saw as an out so you could avoid admitting it
As I said, I accept your concession
(you)
Are you him?
They really aren't huge though. This is normal size here in Texas.
>originals were chibi-overworld and exaggerated combat proportions
Do you just get off on ignoring that we've had actual official artwork showing them since it's original release, not to mention sequels like AC?
exactly, thank you for proving my point. Advent Children Tifa is similar to R Tifa in tit size and proportions. They altered for the new proportions rather than the OG's chibi-overworld style and exaggerated battle proportions.
I missed these homies like you wouldn't believe
>Tifa is great in R.
no.
>Be 7R
>have supposed budget of 140-200 mil
>CEO had to admit in the last investor call ff7r only shipped and sold digitally 5 mil til now
>OG sold double that when vidya games werent as popular
>sequels will be lucky to even sell half
>chances are 7r will be cancelled before it actually finishes the story
it was not a success in anyway
HAHAHAHAHAHA
Go back to Google and reread your sources, paying attention to the dates.
You might find them to be from 2020, 3 fricking years ago bro LMFAO
It sold like hotcakes, reaching 5M by April 2020, no further tracking is available from then on, and has effectively, if we're going with the budget you mentioned between 140-200 million (I assume dollars) net Squeenix a neat 100-160 million $ profit.
And this was while exclusive to PS4, not counting the further release on PC and on PS5.
I think they're good, bro.
To correct myself, August* not April 2020, it launched in April.
>>You lived long enough to see Final Fantasy be good again
>By turing it into another fricking genre
Get this garbage away from me
>seething Nojimasloppers pop out of the woodwork
lol
lmao
>7R was pretty good
>16 demo was fun
>Even 15 was pretty alright
I love the atb and turn based games, but i love these too.
Is this a thing? How many games do this kind of things nowadays lol
Really curious here.
Whats the appeal of turn based combat?
Nostalgia that’s literally it. Turn based literally only exists because of hardware limitations at the time. They’re is literally not a single reason to prefer turn based over action except purely for nostalgia purposes . It’s archaic
>Turn based literally only exists because of hardware limitations at the time.
Probably the dumbest post in this thread.
not op but it's true for ff
then tell me what's the appeal
STFU autistic zoomer frog
Very few games actually use turn based combat in a way that's unique and take care in not boiling down to "just do damage" with no strategy involved
For every divinity original sin 2 where every battle is a puzzle you have 20 other jrpg slops where you just spam your highest skill on every fight that isn't a gimmick boss and then move on as fast as possible
It's easier to manage multiple characters with turn based.
Shit opinion
>They hated him because he told the truth.
Yeah, pretty much.
No one really remembers the FF titles for their engaging gameplay. It always is Story Beats, with no exception.
>Whats the appeal of turn based combat?
A few things. Sometimes it's nice to play games that don't require a lot of focus. Turn based games also usually allow for ridiculous amounts of different abilities and flashy skills that just wouldn't be feasible for a real time game.
It's a different type of thinking than an action game, where it's can POTENTIALLY be more about strategy.
However, and I say this as someone who absolutely LOVES the classic FFs... there's an awful lot of combat where you simply spam the ATTACK command, and it's not at all exactly interesting gameplay. I liked it because it sorta of emulated tabletop RPGs of the time, but the classic FF style of combat doesn't necessarily hold up these days. That's why they slowly started to add more interesting elements to that style of combat as time went on. First with taking it a bit away from turn-based by introducing ATB. Later stuff like Squall's gunblade so there's some timing involved for more damage.
10 took a really interesting route and went BACK to turn-based, but made it more interesting by putting much more focus on character abilities and building via their Sphere Grid system.
it's fun, my favorite ATB-style system is FFX-2, being able to time your actions to synergize with your other party members in a turn-based system makes it feel that much more rewarding
In JRPGs? I have no idea. I used to love them, but I realize I spent a lot of time in those games just mashing basic attacks.
Turn based in tactics and crpgs allows for some strategy/positioning stuff.
I'll answer this with an example
I played 7Remake in 2020 and had some fun with it. The combat scenarios were okay but they felt pretty straightforward most of the time. Obviously Cloud had his counter-stance mechanic, Tifa had her combos, Barret had his burst shot. All cool stuff, nice to see the 7 characters finally getting more differentiation.
However, the amount of thought I ever had to put in to battles was pretty minimal. The decisions I was making in combat were very obvious and it was just a matter of my fingers literally executing at the right time
I played Octopath 2 earlier this year and had a more involved experience, even in the combat. A lot of this came down to the fact that the game asked me to balance mp, hp and its own unique resources against enemy encounters (even random encounters) that could more easily wipe me if I played sub-optimally. Another part of it was that the options I even had were generally more involved since I was playing as a fully party and enemies were more like puzzles to solve.
In a way, it's a bit like old-school survival horror vs more modern third-person action survival games. The old way of creating tension was to pose more and more daunting or complicated math problems to solve, basically. This much MP (or this many bullets/herbs) against this many enemies with these weaknesses.
action games put more emphasis on reflex and dexterity, and the mistakes that come with that. So the individual challenges get less complex in return for adding in an element of reaction time
controlling a party of characters rather than just one and leaving the rest to dipshit AI
Strategy.
Can't believe we have this kind of moron here.
He does it every day, for hours on end over and over and over.
>have to buy a PS5 for two games or wait a year
Bros...
The life of a PC gamer is of a patient gamer. The trade-off is you generally get a much better and customizable version of the game, and on one system.
But yeah, I get it. That's actually why I have a PS5
I'm close to pulling the trigger. If Rift Apart hadn't been announced for PC I would've done it by now.
I'm only one good sale away from doing it at this point
I'm not seeing Final Fantasy anywhere
>when FF 15 released it was universally hated with only a handful of fanboys defending it
>now we have people defending XV
You can not tell me the cycle isn’t real. Every single time. With every single franchise this happens. Every time a new game in the franchise is coming the previous one gets defending even though it was despised for years
>itoddler having a melty
>7R was universally hated with only a handful of fanboys defending it (currently in this thread)
shit taste zoomers who played it as a kid post here now. same reason why we have unironic gachatard threads now
People aren't defending XV, we are saying it's better than 7R
FFXV was maybe a 3-4/10
7R is a 1-2/10
>7R is a 1-2/10
The absolute state of average Ganker schizo
average 7R wall.png
Damn pack it up boys we all lost, he posted a WALL loading textures 0/10 game confirmed
Those are moronic rankings
15 is about a 7/10 and 7r is an 8/10.
ff12 is what a 7 looks like
15 is a 4 at best
Nah. 12 is a 6.5. Solid, but flawed.
If you want an actual 4, look at fricking 2.
12 is a 0 out of 10
matsuno trash will never be ff
Nope my ratings don't start from 5/10, you people are the weird ones
Yes it has 2 good things combat and character models everything else is the absolute worst
Sekiro
god hand
mgs2
re4
Majora mask
SH2
pretty good overall tastes, some moronic some godly.
Mine don't either, your brain is just fried and can't understand the difference between an ok game and actually bad games.
They're bad games, a game doesn't have to be non-functional to be a 1-2/10.
>defends kingdom hearts writing
>calls anyone a weeb
Kys, the majority of those games are from westaboos.
not really i would rather give it a 0/10 because the combat was too easy and i'm not a big fan of anime artstyle but i can recognize that they were somewhat good, everything else was garbage
>awful dialogue
>awful story
>ps1 textures
>awful quests
>awful voice acting.
>tons of braindead walking segments
>completly linear
pls tell me your top games.
they're 10/10 to me obviously they have flaws and not perfect, i don't think i needed to explain this.
They're not bad games. Maybe this series isn't for you.
I could take or leave 7R but XV is definitely bad lmao
It is not.
They're bad, FFX is in my top 10 and i think i'm gonna like XVI from what i've seen
>WEEB ALERT! WEEB ALERT!
>Majora mask
>10/10
i hate millennials so much bros
What happens when a game has more than 10 arbitrary labelled things you like, does it break the scale?
>Any of those
>10/10
Imagine having such a fricked metric that you even have 6 games you rate that highly.
Much less those ones.
>that you even have 6 games you rate that highly.
Nta, but maybe games are not your medium if you cant find 6 games you consider 10s out of the thousands upon thousands released in history
What kind of stupid logic is this? Just because i only consider a couple games a true 10/10 doesn't mean i don't like games at all.
>Nope my ratings don't start from 5/10, you people are the weird ones
I rate this post 6/10
>Sekiro
>god hand
>mgs2
>re4
>Majora mask
>SH2
None of those are a 10/10. No game is, and if you were anything more than a moronic shitposter you would know this.
What do you consider a 10/10? Because your opinion is so hilariously shit I have to see what kind of liquid shit you enjoy injecting into your smooth waterlogged brain.
>now we have people defending XV
no anon, we have PERSON defending XV. Huge difference
Nice history revisionism
FF has been dead since X
Man, I don't believe we can have a thread talking about Final Fantasy without schizoposting.
>this full of flashy lights game full of hp sponge enemies is what Ganker likes now
I am not surprised just disappointed
>hp sponge enemies
you didn't play the demo
final gays are the pokemon fans from playstation
>final gays are the pokemon fans from playstation
Not even pokemon fans would defend being spat in the face like this.
It's actually not HP spongey enough. Enemies die way too quickly so you don't get a good feel for the combat until an actual boss battle.
Why are people who defend 16's combat/battle system so disingenuous and pretending it's only because others want turn-based? It's even more stupid because it implies DMC action combat is an evolution to that. That's like saying Racing sims are an evolution to platformers.
>Why are people who defend 16
You're dealing with shitposters and FFXIV trannies. There's no logic to be found.
Barry, we were actually having a good discussion here, and some actual reasonable criticisms of 16, as well as a good discussion of FF games/Square as a whole.
I know people generally just shit on you, but for once, TRY to participate like a normal person instead of just your usual shitpost. You might actually have a good time talking with some anons.
Holy kek, Barry really mindbroke you FFXIV trannies.
I don't even play MMOs.
I tried to extend an olive branch, Barry, instead of shitting on you like everyone else. Good luck I guess.
Actual discord trannies. If you had even half a brain you'd realise that just a few posts earlier I was shitting on FFXV, take your frickin meds.
uh huh
Stop the schizoposting, please. Let's have a good discussion and (somewhat) respect each other opinions.
>schizo shit
Case in point.
So do you guys do this as a joke or false-flag? Why do you call and pretend every thing said about 16 that's not dick-sucking "barry" and only from "barry"? Is it supposed to be funny or are you getting paid to do this? Because I genuinely can't believe that there's some out there that's this mentally-ill and white-knighty over the most 7/10 product in recent memory.
there's a bunch of people ITT kowtowing for Nojima, so your shock is really unfounded
No, there's a lot of people who criticize 16 actually. People dont' call them Barry.
Barry has very specific terms and phrases he constantly schizo posts with
If anyonein real life ever says to me that FF15 is a good game or better than FF7, i'll smack the hell outta them
why don't you buy your woman a watch?
Oh, cuz there's a clock on the stove!
FFXV is a better game than FF7R.
Make no mistake, I'll hit a dude with glasses
ok but what do you think about the women of San Antonio?
I'd fold you.
>>You lived long enough to see Final Fantasy be good again
no I didn't
>remakesloppers on damage control
shit thread
>Remember 7R threads when it was coming out
>Remember schizo poster who called any anon who critiqued the game Barry, Jumbo, Brian, etc
>Apparently the 7R defender goes by Nathan
>Remember when someone called him BA7RY
>This sent him over the edge
>Jumbo
Jimbo*
Nathan/NeithOf is no one in particular other than a guy Barry got into an argument with on gamefaqs years ago and uses him a scapegoat when called out for flamewaring.
BA7RY is a made up scapegoat by Jimbo aka r/Jimbodehobo when he's called out for crying about Remake's changes literally ruining 7's legacy or when he falseflags as a dense strawman Remake faboy: The "No Valid Criticism" pic or him saying "As long as there's more Tifa I will be excited no matter what" and something about not liking Genesis, but still wants more Genesis. Stuff like that.
>or when he falseflags as a dense strawman Remake faboy
Or when he uses FF e-celebs/fans as being the real shitposter, then adter he's caught being disengenious says he was only doing it ironically to piss them off, since to him, they'd be the only ones who'd reply to his shitposts "knowing they're the ones being mocked".
"Nathan" is whoever Barry disagrees with, I got called that several times. Might have been one of his sockpuppets he'd spend entire threads arguing with on Neogay before he got permabanned there.
Don't get mad bruh, it's for your own good. I can't let you waste all the hours you spent crafting your delicious bait with a lazy wojak. You'll thank me later.
Not turn based - not final fantasy.
see
But neither of those are good and one isn't even a JRPG because that makes Yoshi cry
Only two kinds of people want turn based .geriatric boomer and room temperature iq boomer.
Or normal person who realize that every game playing the same is boring.
If want action. I'll play a real action game.
ok boomer.
>fr fr Final Fantasy should be like Fortnite no cap
Only moronic Zoomers want Final Fantasy to be DMC Mobile MMO. This game is shit and nu-Fgays are celebrating a game that shouldn’t exist like it was owed to you. If you didn’t even like Final Fantasy why the frick do you want to claim it’s corpse and wear it’s skinsuit for clout?
seethe, cope dilate. Time for retirement home boomer.
You do realize you are this guy in your own pic, right?
Says the redditoursit with no attention span that never even played the series but thinks they are the only person that matters.
It's very clear you don't matter
they don't even make video games that cater to you and your group of unwanted morons anymore
Why are zoomers so desperate to feel like they are on a winning team they actively eat and praise shit?
You feel like you belong yet? Maybe the collectors edition will make you feel something
Go preorder the collectors edition then, it’s been available since December and still hasn’t sold out. That never happened before they wanted to be a shit-tier MMO DMC clone, this game is DOA.
What if it doesn't sell poorly?
I've played every FF except 8 and 15 (both on my backlog)
You are so far up your own ass, you can't even see clearly that XVI is appealing enough and turn based isn't part of the franchise anymore.
SE does not have to cater to all your gaming preferences
Just depends how well DMC Mobile MMO sells.
>like it was owed to you
my monet spent on XIV carried this dogshit franchise while the company spent years killing it with dogshit games so I get to have fun now
go play the pixel remasters or something lol
You spent money on dogshit congratulations, you deserve more shit.
It's amazing how FFXIII destroyed the Final Fantasy brand name. Not only was it bad but they had to milk it out for two sequels no one wanted. There was nothing at the end of FFXIII that said "yeah there should be a sequel".
Its failure carried over into the whole Versus XIII fiasco and ultimately FFXV. Had square not be fricked by XIII and KH3, they might have had the proper resources and time to actually make Versus XIII and the real FFXV might have not been an unfinished product.
I'd say it's a bigger blunder than the FF movie.
It really wasn't solely the work of 13 alone. 13 was also surrounded by 7 compilation titles that weren't particularly good (yes, people love CC, but that one also has its issues but is loved largely due to Zack) and other Square oddities. There was a general feeling of "Final Fantasy is not Final Fantasy anymore" at the time, and JRPGs in general were generally thought of "bad" by such a large majority than even one of the owners of Bioware at the time cited not wanting to look like a "JRPG" as a synonym for being bad.
That era of JRPGs were laregely rough, with a couple of exceptions.
Why do people keep unconsciously summarizing Stellagay Writeup, Side Black? This is exactly why Nomura and the dark political story + Tokyo action combat he intended was removed from the Versus project. but it was salvaged for FF16
>Cringe of Cerberus: Final Fantasy XVI
Not a Final Fantasy game.
Final Fantasy XV was the first one in the series that i've ever fineshed, and i liked a lot, specially the boys. The non-linearity helped me to really get invested in their relationships, and the cinematic uncharted-esque sequences where great. I have all the trophies of said XV, but i know its not for everyone. That said, all Final Fantasy games have sitty underdeveloped anime stories, and i dont have a clue why XV was so critized by You weebs
because it's shit.
To be fair, a lot of people who criticize it played it on its release. On release, 15 was pretty darn bad.
Royal Edition/the updates actually made it a decent game, and its fun enough to look past a bunch of its flaws. I enjoyed it as well, but I also remember when I hated it following original release.
You are what’s wrong with the world, go play something else instead of wanting everything to be a homogenized slop of the games you like.
My favorite game is Rez. Im not youre average aaa coonsomer. I just liked the game, and it felt very final fantasy to me. And let me tell you something: this "series identity" that you so desire... doesnt exist. Final Fantasy is anime soap opera, nothing more nothing else, it was never interesting gameplay wise, you were just a kid. XV is a good AAA game.
XV is fricking garbage, and these games found a way to be worse. No one will ever be nostalgic for this shit. Every game is a better action game, this is worse at everything in comparison. Imagine getting mogged by God of War, Assassin’s Creed, Horizon Zero Dawn, Zelda, DMC, Bayonetta, etc at the same time.
>Imagine getting mogged by God of War, Assassin’s Creed, Horizon Zero Dawn, Zelda, DMC, Bayonetta, etc at the same time.
how? do games cancel eachother somehow?
there's a lot of poor people that cannot afford multiple games in a year. That's why console war homosexualry even exists
They are better at everything this game wants to be, because they have been doing it longer without have an existential identity crisis. Souls game shit on this, so why even attempt to be something you’re not. Never give up what make you unique just to chase trends.
>like it was owed to you.
the fact you say this but put Assassin's Creed, God of War and Zelda in there is hilarious
They have more RPG elements than a button masher MMO that wants to be baby DMC Monster Hunter.
>They are better at everything this game wants to be
so? gow having better gameplay than XVI somehow prevents me from enjoying it? wanna elaborate on that?
You have infinite options for that so why do you need this to be just like every other game on the market. There are zero JRPG Final Fantasy games available. This is chunni bullshit hiding behind the Final Fantasy name while larping as Game of Thrones.
so? let me get this straight
the fact that there are "better games" out there, means i shouldn't play the "lesser (according to you) games"?
should we stop watching movies cause the goodfather trilogy was already made?
is that your logic?
This is the lesser game, because it’s late to the party and chasing trends. It’s a stiff boring button masher with less depth of gameplay than Resident Evil.
sure, but this is all according to you
why should I care what you have to say? why should people care?
action games have been a thing for years
should devs stop making fighting games then?
if XVI goes back to turn based, wouldn't that be considered "late to the party" as well?
If it wasn’t called Final Fantasy you wouldn’t give a frick about it. That’s why your kind disgusts me.
I just said in the post that final Fantasy is not for gameplay. It Never was. Lol, do you even enjoy final fantasy games?
I've seen people nostalgic for xv, it's already near 7 years old
It's basically rose tinted glasses
Like kefka in ff6 has 1 line of backstory in the entire game and its from a random NPC you could easily miss and you'll never hear that
there's nothing wrong with turnbased, but FF has been non turn based for so long that I don't even associate them with it anymore.
Fricking SMT and Persona and DQ come to mind first these days, or FE in a more roundabout way since its an SRPG.
Bravely Default was cool during its time, it looked like what FF could have been if they kept at evolving their gameplay formula instead of shifting to another genre and I wonder if they could have used that system in a full budget mainline game, but everything after like the sequels and Octopath have been mediocre to say the least.
Anyway, thank God I'm not a moron that can't enjoy turn based Jarpigs and ARPGs both, as if they were diametrically opposed and you only have to like one or the other.
Is this the new cope? The game is praised everywhere, but this moron will only devolve into two NPC sentences
>NOT TURN BASED REEEEEEEE
or
>IT'S SHIT REEEEEEE
Just the amount of salt it produces is enough to justify buying the game. And on top of that, the game is already a GOTY contender with just the demo.
>walk down hallway
>press square nonstop
>watch cutscene
>no builds
Real quality “RPG” you got there.
I guess XVI is your first FF then.
Last time I played IV I was just pressing A, but sure. You are the FF expert lmao
>has to use a 30 year old game to make your new action game look good
L
O
L
I was going to say XV but a) haven't played it yet and b) i don't have the webm of that guy holding circle while noctis zooms through the screen left and right
>turn on easy mode
>game becomes easy
WWWWWOOOOOOOWWWWW
FFXV only has the easy mode. It has no difficulty settings. FFXVI has multiple.
yes, it was used in the same maner as that webm of yoshida pressing square while having the easy mode accessory equiped
are you too stupid to know who franchises work?
If Metal Gear Solid just decided to be Zone of Enders it would be just as moronic. There are different genres for a reason, that’s why they are two completely separate games.
If MGS decided to be ZoE and sold 5X better, it would be great.
Cope it’s not.
This game will never reach the cultural impact of classic Final Fantasy. It will be quickly forgotten and spat upon like FFXV.
>Cope it’s not.
you think metal gear solid sells well thanks to the name? it's thanks to kojima
why do you think Death Stranding sold around 5mil copies? the name of the game means nothing.
The gameplay of Metal Gear Solid was consistent thru the series, the only time it wasn’t was when they made the QTE action version Rising.
>The gameplay of Metal Gear Solid was consistent thru the series
mg1 and solid snake are rudimentary action games
1 and 2 were consistent with eachother exclusively
3 and peacewalker were consistent to eachother exclusively
4 was following fps trends and is still well beloved
5 is its own beast
revengeance has reached cult status thanks to how hard it broke the mold
you can possibly be saying that the franchise is anything but inconsistent
and guess what made all those titles memorable
a hint; not the gameplay
sounds familiar?
read a book Black person
why? Hamlet was already writen, i don't need to read lesser books
there's no point
Hamlet, eh?
versus, right?
I could quote shakespeare in my shitty rpg maker turd, that doesn't make my rpg maker turd good
Nta but versus?
i don't know why morons here and on Ganker talk about cultural impact. This isn't the 20th century anymore where 98% of the population watched the same shows. That doesn't matter anymore
You wouldn’t be interesting in this game if it wasnt Final Fantasy, it would just be another generic medieval action game from the makers of Kingdom Hearts.
Funny you say that, because I might be more interested in the game if it didn't have final fantasy in the title. I haven't been interested in the franchise since i've been burned three times by them (12, 13, and 15). Also, some people are just junkies of the genre. One of my friends buy every single racing game they can get their hands on
So the Tokyo Team really is involved, huh
>Tokyo Team
?
>Cope it’s not.
Well, it wouldn't matter. If NuMGS sold 5X better than traditional MGS, that's the direction the franchise would go. It made more money and more people liked the new direction.
XV literally has the strongest post launch sales in FF history you fricking moron, it has been in public conscience more than practically any FF other than 7
>it has been in public conscience more than practically any FF other than 7
XIV has 2.5 the sales of XV, though, so at the very most it'd be third most in public consciousness if what you say is true
okay, then ff tactics was a mistake
xi was a mistake
mainly, any non turn based 2d rpg ff was a mistake
why stop there? let's keep it all in the NES cartdriges?
This game is the equivalent of Dirge of Cerebus being considered part of the mainline series.
very considerate of them to put this mode in XVI for the XV players
>literally using easy mode in xv which is still harder than action mode in ff16
>that fat belly and ass
And people think this game is censored.
What were the receptions look like when Duscae and Platinum demos were released? Especially on this board
I’m a 32 year old boomer and I love both action and turn based gameplay. Fight me monkeys
Sit down, kid
>SquareEnix
>Good
call me when FF16 is on pc
>demake
>good
final gays sure love their slop huh? i'll watch the story on youtube and laugh at your time jannie fanfic again
you are losing your grip, schizo kun
you can no longer shit on XVI without exposing yourself as a massive morons in every front
Hells yeah baby.
back in 2009 i made a vow of never supporting square enix ever again, even if XVI is the greatest game in history i will never buy it.
A word once given i'll never break. Never forget, never forgive.
Oh well, 19 million other people will enjoy it instead
a man of principles
i'd never buy a game made by
>blizzard
>eidos
>bethesda
>amazon games
I can respect that
see you on day 1
no wonder why the schizo screeching went silent here
he's currently melting here
God I had it when Im watching LPs of the demo and the streamer keeps looking back and forth between chat every 10 seconds
Barry is breaking down in the other FF thread
Sauce?
He's activated a badly coded spambot.
Other thread is schizo kino
Versus 13 was going to be one on the best Final Fantasy games of all time.
>kingdom hearts actionslop
Nah. It would've been better than the piece of shit FFXV we got, but that's not saying much.
>Joshua has the fatal cough of death
>it doesnt end up mattering for anything
Ok.
I see you're played the whole game
being inbred is rough
>Final Fantasy be good again
>again
FFWNG
I miss her...
Maybe after her return Final Fantasy will actually have a chance to be saved.
Shame that Jill grows up to be abit uglier.
She's cutest as a hebe.
Kind of seems like they're building up Odin/Waloed King to be a villain? or at least a major antagonist. Trailers have him fighting Clive one on one and has Clive dodging zantetsukens and shit
Basically every other dominant besides Joshua, Cid and Jill is an antagonist. And you end up fighting them anyway.
I do wonder how they'll do the Ramuh fight because he's your bro.
Seems the demo is doing its job.
To this day i still have no idea how to read this chart. Like what the points mean, what the hell is change and what's up with the yellow bar on the days left column.
Ohnonono comg doomposters??!!
BARRYBROS....
moron even if it has 150 points its still terrible
Genuinely one of the best demos I've ever played. Pure kino. Got goosebumps when the two dominants were epically battling during the cutscene. Also never seen a game do qtes for doors and it was super badass, the PS5's adaptive triggers really shine here. Story is also great, it's refreshing to finally get a grimdark fantasy game with complex characters that have sex and are more than just one dimensional tropes like in GoT.
Gameplay is also pure bliss. It was so sick jumping into dudes and mashing square for a while, never had to use a potion either so wasnt frustrating at all. Flashy, beautiful graphics accentuate all of Clive's moves too and it ran at a solid 4k 60fps the whole time. The Eikon challenge was even better because I had variations of the same move but with different particle effects.
True system seller and youre missing out if you dont play this game
I'll give you a point for tha attempt at humor but the butthurt still shines through.
Why should I be butthurt? I got to play a free demo showing me a bad game is bad. Enjoy your preordered deluxe edition snoy
Kek, please keep going. These threads wouldn't half as fun without all the seething doomers and discordtrannies.
>Kek, please keep going
>wojak posting
Oops you're slipping anon, remember, you aren't supposed to be butthurt.
>posting a popular image used in a variety of contexts
>"You're so butthurt anon!! It's so funny how butthurt you are!!"
So far youve disagreed with 0 of the content in the original reply that triggered you. Can you at least try? I know FF fans arent very smart since they think holding triangle to shoot fireballs is engaging gameplay, but try and rub a couple of those braincells together for me
>Gameplay is also pure bliss. It was so sick jumping into dudes and mashing square for a while, never had to use a potion either so wasnt frustrating at all.
>Mashing square
>Never had to use a potion
Yeah, tells me all I need to know. The only chef kiss you're doing is at Yoshi-P's dick.
Anon, if you read that whole reply and didnt realize it wasn't earnest by the sentence talking about QTE doors, you need to be medically checked for late stage down syndrome
Just tested the demo on PS5 and closed it before finishing it dont want to spoil m'y self..thats the final fantasy ive been waything since à kid and i wasnt hyped at all before the demo Nice game
I can accept Rebirth. XVI is garbage.
Preorder cancelled.
suss
holy soul
https://twitter.com/PeachMilky_/status/1668806803021500417
7R needs to get rid of their censorship bullshit
Dude, isn't she like 12 in that flashback?
OUT OF 10
OUT OF 10
You need to stop crying censorship every time you cant jack off.
you need to stop supporting censorship
It's not censorship.
it is
they even buttoned yuffie's shorts in the rebirth trailer
That's still not censorship. They designed it like that on purpose. You have a weird victim complex.
>That's still not censorship
yes it is - they also covered up cowgirl tifa in rebirth when she showed cleavage in remake
nice argument
I dont need one. You need to prove that someone censored them in the first place.
>ou need to prove that someone censored them in the first place
I literally proved it. She shows cleavage in the Remake flashback. She has a black top covering her breasts in Rebirth's flashback.
And how do you know that wasnt internal?
It's literally pointless to argue with people whinging about supposed censorship. They're mindbroken at this point and it's an identity thing, no actual logic. Don't go down the rabbit hole.
UOOOOOOHHHHH
This sent Bazzy into sperg overload
>watch his LP
>he keeps glancing up at the ceiling every 5 seconds to read his stupid chat
Who the hell can really enjoy games like this?
>muh eceleb
nobody cares this homosexual has garland taste in everything
kek, did Barry get nuked from these threads again?
WINNING
Reminder that both of these games are PS5 exclusives and that if you don't own one by now you're a lazy homosexual.
>but muh potential PC release two years from now
You already know that every single detail of the games will be spoiled here within the first two weeks of the them coming out. Why wait, poorgays?
it's not turn based, so it's not back. i'm sorry....
>censored shit
I hate numales have a nice day
FF16 demo was pretty dogshit tho,The story was literally "we watcbed GoT recently" the combat was beyond terrible.The only good part was the music
have a nice day
Cope xvi schizo
FF has been back since November 29th 2016
why do you always bait in dead threads
>Final homosexualry 15