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Nah, the main reason is they are moronic and don't want to utilize abstraction which means the scope and scale is blown up.
This. I mean money is likely a factor too, but I think it's just Square being genuinely moronic, which isn't exactly new.
I also think people tend to forget how much abstract nonsen- I mean "adventure" there was in FF7 to begin with. Remake and its abortions is the same shit on an updated scale. Just a lot uglier. I'm actually amazed how ugly a lot of FFVIIR is, considering it also has some of the greatest looking sequences in vidya. Unfortunately, a handful of highs can't, for me, compensate for the dozens of hours of eyesores. And earsores for that matter, cause holy shit is the dialogue embarrassing especially now that it's voiced.
Oh and the gameplay is incredibly easy, same as the OG even though it's a different system, so you can be absolutely sure money is a primary motivator. Has Final Fantasy ever been anything more than an attempt to be accessible and appealing to the largest crowd possible? I stand to reason you have to be afk or use Cait Sith to even hear the Game Over theme in the source material.
>implying FF7 milking is a new thing
After looking at the last trailer, i can safely say that it was the best decision. Combat looks even better, and they can tackle everything without worrying of cutting things.
Yup. Rebirth looking to easily be the game of the decade.
I initially thought it was an attempt to keep everything in the remakes without any compromises, but what i didn't see coming was them changing the story for literally no reason. They had a golden ticket to success with this formula, and they still fricked it up.
>but what i didn't see coming was them changing the story for literally no reason
why do you expect them to keep the story exactly the same?
the original exist, just play that.
>every remake should be a moronic sequel
you sound like a fricking moron
>want a remake of the game you like
>get a sequel that pretends to be a remake, so now you can't hope for that remake you wanted
>Gankertards tell you to just play your old game if you don't like the remake
The only thing keeping me from ending it all and sparing myself the pain of having to face the fact that you frickwits exist is the thought of taking you fricking slope-browed, slack-jawed, inbred fricking morons out before I do.
>I want a remake
>Why?
>I JUST WANT ONE OK!!!
Name one reason why it's valuable to spend several years making an exact copy of something that already exists
no one is saying they want an exact remake. this is just some shitty strawman you came up with. it's embarrassing. They could have easily remade the game with out making it a sequel and expanded on shit. fleshed out main characters that have basically no story arc. Hell they could have gone nuts and changed sephiroths father to vincent instead of hojo and I bet no one would care. You have a toddler parrot brain. You're fricking stupid and the only way you can win an argument is if you make one one up first and project on every one else. god you're fricking stupid.
You can sell it again at full price.
>making an exact copy
Still using this strawman eh?
Capcom did just that, how're they doing?
stuck recycling monster hunter because that's the only thing that sells? RE4 sold the same as FF7R despite being on 3 platforms.
And FF7R still can look forward to milking the "I won't buy it until the whole trilogy is released" crowd eventually.
>RE4 sold the same as FF7R despite being on 3 platforms
It also took like a 3rd of the time and budget to develop lmfao
>It also took like a 3rd of the time and budget to develop lmfao
I hear anons say this a lot, do you have source or actual data to prove it? or are you saying this based on your ass?
What do you think.
>Menu says steak
>I want steak
>Order it
>Get salad
>Why did you expect steak?
I cannot believe I share a planet with people this dense
Bad comparison. It's still steak, just not the exact same steak you're used to. Whether that's a good or a bad thing depends on how willing you are to experience new things.
>They had a golden ticket to success
And they're doing it.
>They had a golden ticket to success with this formula, and they still fricked it up.
You mean the golden ticket to success of "what, they want me to pay 3x the full price for the same exact thing prettied up a little? Frick you!" or are you referring to something else?
It's succeeded in me ignoring it until it's "finished" or sonething close to it. Surely it'll be repackaged in some kind of "ultimate" edition or whatever so frick it I'll just wait for that. I bought the first part on release, it was cool, but I'm not dying for more.
Yeah, I'm actually counting on that and I'm also counting on a true remake, since they'll have all the assets. They'll do it, there's no reason for not doing it.
I'll repost this from another thread:
I have a piece of mind playing this because I know that they are going to reuse all the assets to truly remake the original game once everything is over. It's okay then.
Considering that Ever Crisis is also retelling Advent Children, I believe that it's possible that they'll, eventually, port the whole compilation in this format. It's free money with all the assets and text written at their hands.
Fun fact. FF7 remake is free with FF7 rebirth on PSN. Its the same price to buy Rebirth by itself or with Remake.
Yes but is Rebirth free if you bought Remake?
Paypigs can't wait that long to buy things they have to consume now.
No but I just find it amusing as this likely means when part 3 comes out they will just give Remake and Rebirth free with it.
I'm literally going insane with this stupid Ganker images loading slow bullshit. Fix it for frick sake.
I'll play devil's advocate
Can you develop Final Fantasy VII's story start to finish in one package on modern equipment and standards? More importantly, does it have the same impact VII did when it released?
I don't think so
Remake was legitimately the right call, the game was still 60 hours or so and it didn't feel like any one point was particularly stretched to pad for time. Assuming it just comes down to how long it takes them to make assets and content, I don't see a world where any company would spend 11 years developing a 180 hour single player RPG just to sell it for 60 bucks. They could have easily loaded remake with costume and character DLCs if all they cared about was milking people, I think the 3 game plan is a happy accident (for SE) of their fiscal obligations meeting with the realities of the game development pipeline
>and it didn't feel like any one point was particularly stretched to pad for time
BULL SHIT
Yes
No
I always said that they would only ever "remake" the game if they were in a fiscal hole that's difficult to climb out of. Here we are.
Curious that they just released the new trailer after the anniversary of Advent Children.
They should make it playable as a part 3 DLC
>Sephiroth: I will never be a memory (AC)
OG Sephiroth is still alive confirmed.
The first one had 5 hours of actual story content, the rest was stretched out FFXIII hallways made of grey concrete and metal containers. 5h into 30~35h.
What do you think?
Also, reminder that most of these game's production is outsourced to 3rd world countries like Malaysia and India, with a handful of Chinese asset launders (they steal shit, modify it just enough, sell it as their own asset, can't be sued apparently) which is why both of these games look nothing like VII, and are just generic slop.
I loved combat and this one has more characters to frick around with. also the twitter note from nomura mentioned more “open exploration” which I hope is true because the hallway simulators did suck
i am afraid the team attacks will happen automatically and take away our freedom in combat
No I think they say in the PS blog that the team attack are a new meter you fill up like atb
this is a big ask but i'm hoping we can combine any two characters for a combo attack
That doesnt sound like a big ask at all. Why wouldn't they do that?
yes of course
Yes obviously.
If you just wait for Part 3 then you can get the first 2 parts for free. Its up to you. They are giving remake for free with rebirth so will likely give remake and rebirth free with part 3.
Where are you all seeing this? First result I was able to find showed a thirty dollar difference between the cheapest edition and the twin pack.
Europe. It 80 Euro for the game or 80 Euro for the game with Remake. so its same price to just get Remake free. I assume games are cheaper in America so maybe its different on your PSN.
Looks like an error
Its not. They say on the PSN store page its a pre order incentive. The price goes up after the game comes out.
Digital only?
I assume so
Not bad at all
>new
not buying until it's actually fricking finished
part 2 of 3 is not finished
only when the full story is told again will it be finished
No one asked.
this, it's not even worth a pirate at this point
I'll still shit up FF threads tho
>I'll still shit up FF threads tho
we know schizo
Based.
You schizophrenics are really pathetic.
Yes obviously. They already milked the original FF7 as hard as they could but the remake offered them a whole new opportunity to exploit for years. I have no doubt they are going to remake Dirge of Cerberus at some point.
So is it a new game each time? Like you can’t carry your characters over? How will this work?
Considering how poorly the first chapter sold, it’s probably also a sales tactic. Hence why they also re-issued the first one so fans would double dip. If you slow release an episodic remake and also double dip enhanced versions, the same 3 million people keep buying them and you increase your sales
>Considering how poorly the first chapter sold
7 million isn't selling poorly.
It's hardly new. Fire Emblem Fates pulled that shit hard.
Not the same thing, they're just different versions of the same story, but each game concludes its story and is complete on its own, they also released at the same time with Revelation coming only two weeks later. A tactic to make people double dip for sure but not as scummy as releasing an incomplete game.
>new
If we don't get barret x yuffie porn then what was this trailer for???
Only if we get Aerith/Cait Sith (another of the team attacks shown in this trailer) too.
>furry
no
they made her breasts tittiery
Who gives a shit. This "remake" will go down in history was one of the worst things ever conceived by Japan. Worse than the Virtual Boy.
all doomers are schizos who haven't played games in years
I play games every day. I'm not going to waste any of my time on a butchered "remake" of a game I love. I didn't even waste my time playing it when it was free on PS+
yes yes grandpa all games are bad now take your meds and go to fricking bed
is Remake the definitive example of a game that everybody wanted to play, that nobody wanted to make? It seems quite literally, and I don't use this term lightly; soulless.
I fall asleep just thinking about it and after jerking off to it, coincidentally.
So who is getting an intermission dlc this time around?
Cid Highwind. If the game ends at the midway point, then that's most likely the trip back to Nibelheim. Vincent might be like Red was in Remake and just guest-only. Save those two as new party members in Part 3 along with re-recruiting Cloud in the party later.
Vincent, it will be about his time as a turk before his coffin exile
It'd be interesting to have a DLC that features both Cid and Vincent as party members of each other. They just have like... 0 interaction in the original and any of the compilation. Well, I haven't played DoC so I can't be sure, but I'd really like to see them interact more as the two oldest members of the group. They have potential for a great dynamic, Vincent the old but still young-looking dude who wants peace and quiet, and Cid the old fart who curses non-stop.
Never mind, Barret is actually older than Cid, huh... the grey hair that he only has on the field in FFVII always makes me think of him as older than he actually is.
I liked the part with them in Barret's chapter in On a Way to a Smile. Started reading that recently and it's the first real good Compilation entry.
FF16 confirmed sales
>June 28, 2023 - 3 million units
FF16 Sales Predictions
2023
>July - 3.1 Million Units
>August - 3.2 Million Units
>September - 3.3 Million Units
>October - 3.4 Million Units
>November - 3.5 Million Units
>December - 3.6 Million Units
2024
>January - 3.7 Million Units
>February - 3.8 Million Units
>March - 3.9 Million Units
>April - 4 Million Units
>May - 4.1 Million Units
>June - 4.2 Million Units
>July - 4.3 Million Units
>August - 4.4 Million Units
>September - 4.5 Million Units
>October - 4.6 Million Units
>November - 4.7 Million Units
>December - 4.8 Million Units
2025
>January - 4.9 Million Units
>February - 5 Million Units
>March - 5.1 Million Units
>April - 5.2 Million Units
>May - 5.3 Million Units
>June - 5.4 Million Units
>July - 5.5 Million Units
>August - 5.6 Million Units
>September - 5.7 Million Units
>October - 5.8 Million Units
>November - 5.9 Million Units
>December - 6 Million Units
2026
>January - 6.1 Million Units
>February - 6.2 Million Units
>March - 6.3 Million Units
>April - 6.4 Million Units
>May - 6.5 Million Units
>June - 6.6 Million Units
>July - 6.7 Million Units
>August - 6.8 Million Units
>September - 6.9 Million Units
>October - 7 Million Units
>November - 7.1 Million Units
>December - 7.2 Million Units
2027
>January - 7.3 Million
>February - 7.4 Million
>March - 7.5 Million
>April - 7.6 Million
>May - 7.7 Million
>June - 7.8 Million
>July - 7.9 Million
>August - 8 Million
>September - 8.1 Million
>October - 8.2 Million
>November - 8.3 Million
>December - 8.4 Million
2028
>January - 8.5 Million
>February - 8.6 Million
>March - 8.7 Million
>April - 8.8 Million
>May - 8.9 Million
>June - 9 Million
>July - 9.1 Million
>August - 9.2 Million
>September - 9.3 Million
>October - 9.4 Million
>November - 9.5 Million
>December - 9.6 Million
2029
>January - 9.7 Million
>February - 9.8 Million
>March - 9.9 Million
>April - 10 Million
I am fricking pissed after the trailer, criticize what you want about the new remake, at least Nomura and the other guy understand what FF is about and try to update it to the present while keeping some stuff intact.
Meanwhile Yoshi P wanted to make Japan God of War disregarding everything, like jesus christ, a lot of shit about JARPG was solved by both KH and FF7R, both games feel like an actual rpg with systems and have this turn based combat style feeling while being action games.
Why did it piss you off so much if you like what Nomura and the other guy are doing?
16 makes me mad, you can tell a ton of effort was put into the game but it was all misguided, like resources and talent were not short in hand but you still get up with such a mediocre product it makes me seethe. You can talle it has a good base but to me it seems like the dev never asked such a simple question, is my game fun? Does it excite me to play it? Is it exciting to explore or learn new stuff? Is it exciting to open a treasure chest? Or upgrade my gear?
I hope FFXVII takes inspiration from the Remake. I wouldn't mind if they take its combat for future mainline games and improve on it.
>February 24
Fricking excuse me? Since when did Square does fast release? I was expecting a legit 2 or 3 years.
they've always had fast releases when they stuck to an engine and just made follow up games with it
but they have brain worms so they keep switching engines and genres delaying their games by a decade
i've played through FFVII like.. 4 years ago? and i have shit memory
should i play through it again before starting the remake?
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literally (literally) never post your opinions on ff7 again