>Flans are in Rebirth
>Flans weren't even in the original FF7
>Which means they will resist physical attacks
>Have to use magic on them
>Actually have to exploit elemental weakness
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why not call it a slime?
Because they’re called Flans
It's not a slime, it's a flan
who do you think we are? Dragon quest?
a flan is a dessert thats popular in japan
Because they're delicious
>E-Elemental weaknesses what's that? Just keep swinging your sword until it's dead
If you hate yoshipee why are you so obsessed with him? Is this the tsundere thing
Some of us are mad that a decent demo tricked us into wasting 70 dollars.
Post your playtime lol.
The game sucks.
ps5trannies deserve every shit game they get. I'll play it for free on pc when it eventually comes out and will still have more fun with it than you.
>and will still have more fun with it than you
I doubt it. You will have exactly the same amount of fun as I did, which is none at all. The game is ass.
keep seething paypig but I'll have free fun while you have it rent free living in your head
Why are you simping for a game that you haven't even played? Are you a yoshitroony by chance?
how am I simping exactly? I will play it for free you degenerate gaystationtroony lmaooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo you actually paid for it. God you are so cucked. Thx for betatesting btw AHAHAHAHAHAAH
>how am I simping exactly
You're defending the quality of a game against people who've beaten it while admitting you have no idea what the frick you're talking about. MMO brain rot.
Oh am I? Where? Quote it you moronic subhuman snoytroony. Again you are a cuck. You paid for it. I will wait for pc release and have fun with it for FREE. Just like the game is living RENT FREE in your head and just like MY DICK keeps penetrating your mind over and over again it seems. God gaystation troons are so MINDFRICKED
>Where?
>l'll have fun
Simp with the memory of a goldfish. Didnt read the rest of your moron babble.
where am I saying anything about the quality of the game???? Lmao this snoy is so buttranged right now AHAHAHAHAHAH. Holy shit what a cuck. Can't wait for pc release
>I'll have fun
Indicates you know what you're getting into. You don't. XVI is ass.
>indicates
you just assume shit you moronic dialationstationtroony. I will have FUN with it and you will keep dialating about it and there is NOTHING you troony can do about it lmaoooooooooooooooo for free btw
>I will have FUN
No you won't.
yeah I will for free
No you won't. Besides, we'll be playing Rebirth before you even get XVI so you'll just spend most of your time seething in Rebirth threads.
>Decent demo
>An hour of boring cutscenes before you get a tutorial on braindead combat
You fooled yourself, moron
>An hour of decent cutscenes
>Basic but functional combat
Classic Final Fantasy intro, moron. Then it turned into fetch quest hell.
wtf does adding flans to vii rebirth have to do with xvi?????
XVI doesn't have elemental weaknesses
flans can only be fought with elemental moves
xvi has flans
those are not flans
ffxvi also has no bombs
>FFXVI has no bombs
Yes it does, and you can easily kill them using nothing but fire magic. It's sacrilegious.
i guess ffxi isn't a final fantasy game either then
the rope awaits, secondary
>mmo
yeah it isn't
You have never played ffxi, homosexuals, you just see that ffxiv is shit and lump it in as the same thing because you're Black person mongrels
>You have never played my shitty MMO
Correct, you fricking moron.
typical Gankerermin doesn't play videogames
you are american and brown possibly also homosexual
>Not wasting time on a MMO
>Hurr durr he doesn't play videogames
Typical brain rot I'd expect from somebody who plays MMOs. Find a cliff and leap off it you fricking lemming.
>I guess this shitty MMO isn't FF either
Not when discussing the single player ones, no. You MMO morons need to have a nice day en masse.
Because that requires strategy and magic actually has a purpose. There is not elemental weakness in XVI and you can just use fire magic on Bombs and it damages them instead of them absorbing it and regaining health like it every single FF game before it. It makes the combat braindead and all you do is just keep hitting things with your sword until its dead
>combat is braindead
Yeah, rock-paper-scissors is such a big brain mechanic and is defintiely a great idea to use in a full action title revolving msotly around reflex inputs and ability-chaining.
There's DEFINITELY more complexity if you suddenly have to think a little about which ability chains you can't use on this mob and work around it.
The way the eikon system worked it would have amounted to a third of your moveset becoming useless every time you encounter a new enemy.
Hoenstly I just don't think that works in this day and age, like Hell House.
>no possible way to beat this with current loadout no matter what skill and have to reload save and make a new build just for this boss
Elemental affinities can work if they're limited to 4 elements max and they're available to the player character as part of the core moveset, but in a loadout/build based game I just find them dated design.
Rethinking strategies and builds is literally the biggest source of challenge in RPGs as a genre. If you don't want to deal with that then you don't like RPGs.
I'm not going to go into ye olde "what is an RPG" argument that dates back to the very first Japanese Ultima/Wizardry clones. But talking about FF in particular, these have been mainly cinematic movie games for the past 26 years, and getting blocked by an enemy/boss solely because of menu-based loadouts/builds with no alternative strategy, being forced to reload? The average player will be annoyed by that.
Obviously the game has to facilitate it yeah, it's like being a fire mage in modern WoW or something and finding you just can't run 2 out of 5 dungeons in the rotation because of immunity.
I suppose if the gimmick is having certain builds with certain isolated mechanics around them that you enjoy than that's fine as well for an action-oriented game.
Hey it's a no true RPGsfan argument. Except you're conflating turn-based strategy with RPGs
>Hey it's a no true RPGsfan argument
Yeah, and it will always be the correct argument for as long as XVI remains irrelevant.
Ah, so you're just an insufferable underage homosexual doing his faux console war thing, gotcha.
>faux console war
By preferring one PS5 game over another PS5 game? What the frick are you on? I beat XVI, and it SUCKS.
>Except you're conflating turn-based strategy with RPGs
Those basically are the same thing unless you're one of those gays that thinks RPG = dialogue choices.
The only thing that RPGs are consistent in is stats autism and even that is not a given anymore these days. It's a nebulous genre, with a huge degree in variance over what "stat autism" entails with regards to its perceived "challenge".
It's fine if you think that's the biggest source of challenge, however, I'm going to consider it wrong because I don't subscribe to whatever puritan definition of RPG you hold.
>Yeah, rock-paper-scissors is such a big brain mechanic and is defintiely a great idea to use in a full action title revolving msotly around reflex inputs and ability-chaining
you know maybe you should choose a different image of a bomb next time, make it less obvious, you know?
Elemental Magic never had a purpose in FF because of how easy it is to just apply elements to weapons, on top of how easy the games are in general.
The only game that sorta tried to make it relevant was 13 of all entries, because they finally moved on from the Wizardry spells formula, and even there the results are so so.
Bombs are actually weak to fire. You fricking secondary.
fricking IDIOT
>strategy
>hit enemy color with different color
This is why everyone makes fun of you, 15 cultists
Damn. this guy was the producer of the worst FF ever.
Lmao based as frick. 16 was so fricking boring. Are 16gays gonna rope when the superior game drops?
Im gonna enjoy both because Im a Final Fantasy fan 🙂
If you have to ask there is no hope for you
You people are literally insane lol
Did you really make two copies of this image just to post in both threads going on right now?
Pretty based on Nomura's part to look at the state of FF16 and decide to add Flans to Rebirth just to prove a point.
Once again the modern side games are carrying the modern main games.
Don't sully wakkas good name with your feckless shitposting you candyass sandblasted n'wah
look I actually really liked XVI, everything from the half-assed DMC clone gameplay (because even the shittiest DMC clone is better than 90% of the market), to kino like the uncle character and the Bahamut fight
but Nomura is king and always will be
>Nomura
this moron wasn't in charge of combat with part 1 or rebirth, Hamaguchi is the guy you should be thanking
God I love when Nomura haters get BTFO
Was there a creative director for Remake?
Nomura . He’s the creative director of the entire trilogy
This doesn't go against anything I said, Hamaguchi is still the guy responsible for the combat, especially when he was the one largely involved in the foundations with part 1
Actually, the person responsible for the combat is probably this guy.
https://www.mobygames.com/person/392193/teruki-endo/
You're probably right but I'm talking about from a directorial role. Nomura focused on story, Hamaguchi was on combat and now Hamaguchi is the lead director, not surprising considering combat was the only thing that wasn't a dumpster fire with 7R.
Nomura and Hamaguchi are co-directors on Remake
Hamaguchi is the reason we got a Sephiroth fight
Actually, Nomura was Director on Remake while Hamaguchi was Co-director (game design/programing), alongside Co-director Toriyama (scenario design).
https://www.mobygames.com/game/141485/final-fantasy-vii-remake/credits/playstation-4/?autoplatform=true
Well, Toriyama may have had a lot to say about the story alongside Nomura.
Is that an official title IMG_2978?
It’s official Nomura drew it himself for the launch of Remake
In other words the story is FRICKED again. Thanks for letting me know i should cancel my pre-order.
Wrong. If it weren't for Nomura's influence and control over the project, VII Remake would have been full action-slop.
>Speaking in an interview with Stevivor, Final Fantasy 7 Remake producer Yoshinori Kitase – who was the director and scenario writer of the original FF7 – revealed that the development team initially considered making the remake “a full 100% modern action game” – not unlike Kingdom Hearts – but that director Tetsuya Nomura turned that idea down, deeming the turn-based core of the combat to be a necessary aspect of the experience.
>“My personal opinion was I thought it would have been suitable to make it a full 100% modern action game,” said Kitase. “Actually, when we were discussing this and I proposed I wanted to take it full action, our director Nomura Tetsuya said, ‘no, I don’t like that idea.’
>“[Nomura] said, ‘no, I want to keep in… original elements for the original fans and what they loved about the original turn-based style system.’ That’s really what led us to this hybrid model that we have today. We feature elements of both of those.”
And then there's recent the recent statement from Nomura regarding how FF shouldn't be full-action. Obviously, he has some fricking input on the combat.
Remember when Nomura wasn't in charge of FFVII remake because the story was garbage now people are going NOMURA KEEEENO HE DID IT ALL
The story is garbage, but it's fun fricking garbage like SOP therefore KINO. It also helps that Rebirth looks like a proper FF game.
oh your one of THOSE fans
back to twitter with you.
You should go back to twitter, LITTLE b***h.
Meanwhile, XVI never develops compelling gameplay not even in NG+.
silence, ironic weeb
>twittergay is SEETHING
Cry more, little b***h. XVI will be as much of a joke as XIII and XV. XIII, XV and XVI = The Holy Kusoge Trinity.
>no u
holy shit, you even argue like them too
GO BACK
>twittergay still seething because nobody likes his game
>thinking this is about xvi
you are so obsessed LMAO
You're an ironic weeb homosexual who thinks SoP is "such garbage but thats what makes it le kino!!!"
you make me sick, you reek of underage. You are the dirst beneath my boot bug. I hope your school gets shot up once you come back from winter break
>the twittergay is SEETHING
I didn't even read your post, and I can still sense the rage. XVI will forever be remembered as a shit game on the level of XIII and XV. The Holy Kusoge Trinity. Sad.
holy fricking obsessed
seeing xvi everywhere, even when it has nothing to do with the post
you are a schizophrenic LMAO
>keeps calling me a twittergay
yep, he's seething. seems like I hit the nail right on the head KEK
>he's still seething
Being mad at me won't make XVI less of a shit game.
>EVERYTHING, EVERYWHRE XVI!!! XVI!!! YOSHIP IS GANGSTALKING ME!!! SAVE ME TRASH TASTE!!!!!!!
not the anon but XVI is only hated on Ganker. just saying.
Nta but now you're being delusional. I dont hate XVI but if you dont see how the game is controversial you're kinda crazy.
give me an actual argument then. seems like Ganker just hates it because of yoshi-p
I dislike the world design, nothing to do there, quests suck ass, rewards are bad because the rpg systems itself are shallow so they cant give you anything that really changes the gameplay. Pacing is just awful. And i really dislike a ton of narrative choices they took. I could spend a whole thread talking about it but i dont want to derail this one.
i was okay with the world design. i for one hate open world. i thought the negative aspect of elden ring was the open world.
quest are pointless. honestly, i barely did the sidequests. only side quest i did was getting ambrosio. the rpg element was definitely missing from the game. leveling up only gave you little increase in damage. and weapon, armor didnt even shit. i still thought the combat system made up for this. and with the absent of elemental ad/disadvantages is fine. it would render certain eikons uselss in some combat. the pacing/narrative was fine. i was bit iffy of the 5 year time skip ,but i for one appreciated the story and clive resonated with me the player very well. they are character development and the casts were great. jill's development could have used more work.
yes i have. i dont touch my PS5 at all. i got RDR2 on pc.
>PS5 2023 history
>game 1 45h
>game 2 3h
>game 3 2h
>game 4 1h
DAMN. The PS5 is worth it
Have you played it? It's a boring slog of a game. Soul-draining describes ist the best.
Yeah, I thought it was fun. The world was very interesting, music was nice, story was cool. A classic cinematic final fantasy game
See
There is no defending the structure of sidequests nor sidecontent. No defending the lack of dungeons. Despite XVI being a full-action game, Clive only has the same sword combo from beginning to end. For fricks sake, even KH1 and KH2 had combo modifiers. How enemy encounters are all the same. Building up stagger so that you unleash all your abilities like an MMO-style rotation. These points have been repeated countless times, and you people respond by seething about Barry. XVI is no where near as good of an action game as AC6 which offers way more gameplay variety.
XVI is a 8/10, about Heavensward tier
and yet people on Ganker treat it like the second coming of satan
>about Heavensward tier
I don't give a shit about MMO-slop. Try comparing it to a real FF. It's a 2/10 making it XV-tier.
XIV is a numbered title, its a real Final Fantasy, it is beloved across the world, and Sakaguchi (the creator of FF for you underages) plays it everyday
Cope.
>Sakaguchi (the creator of FF for you underages)
I don't give a shit. XVI is still a 2/10. I literally cannot tell the difference between XV and XVI.
XVI is an 8/10, you are right that XV is a 2/10 though (those 2 points being the little that was left from Versus)
>XVI is an 8/10
On the scale of mediocrity.
>you are right that XV is a 2/10 though
Yes, and XVI sits next to it as a 2/10.
>those 2 points being the little that was left from Versus
I don't give a shit about that fanfiction. Thanks to the death of Versus, I get NEO TWEWY, Jack Garland and the inevitable return of Gackt.
you sound like a redditor, you should go back
>nooo, you have to love my golden calf or else youre le reddit
You sound like a Redditor who can't handle the idea that someone else hates shitty games. Filtering opinions and telling people to leave is exactly what Reddit promotes with their upboat system.
Reddit hates XVI because there's not enough ugly Black folk.... AKA: you.
you unironically converted me, I think XVI is based
>I literally cannot tell the difference between XV and XVI.
That's called vision impairment.
It's called being based. XV and XVI are literally the same. What's the difference? Bith mediocre.
>What's the difference?
Setting, game structure, combat system, narrative style, characterization depth?
>XV literally better in all categories
>But XVI is the 8/10
I'm convinced the only people who defend XVI are the shit eating morons who like XIV.
14 is absolute dogshit and can only be fixed through time traveling back to 2017
16 is kino and the best ff since 12
FF XV has almost no redeeming qualities. Gas station world, cardboard main party, shitty flaoty combat system that plays itself, no difficulty settings. Chapter 13 is without a doubt the lowest depth in the franchise.
>Sakaguchi (the creator of FF for you underages)
not looking any better, since we all know how awful his taste is.
>canned in corporate statement versus actual proof he plays the game daily and clears the hardest content
>canned in corporate statemen
>newbie cultist doesn't realize sakaguchi isn't square enix employee and can say whatever he wants.
hate to see it.
>he doesn't know
say you are a muttmerican without saying you are a muttmerican
>LE STAND AND LET THING RESOLVE
you don't even clear extremes, freak
the sour grapes are strong
a 70 year old man is better at games than you LOL, i would kms if I were you, thankfully I'm not
see how the cultist shrinks at accusation, how they recoil, "i've been found out"
even the devs know you're a cult.
https://www.mensa.org/public/mensa-iq-challenge
I'm guessing you have to score 70 or lower to be able to play XIV.
you still haven't refuted the "stand and let thing resolve" argument
name 2 mechanics released after stormblood that can't be explained through stand and let thing resolve, dps check, or pressing mitigation.
everyone made fun of stand and let thing resolve because it was extremely disingenuous and silly argument. its not worth "refuting"
its like saying "MARIO ALL YOU DO IS PRESS BUTTON AND JUMP"
So you're admitting that all you do is stand and let thing resolve?
Because every other MMO on the market is able to give combat more depth than that. Everything from UO to Everquest to Classic WoW to GW2 to Modern WoW, even FFXIV used to have more depth. Are you arguing that a simon says system where you just need to stand at the right place at the right time is sufficient depth?
I can tell you haven't played xiv, or any mmo at all. go back to school, kiddo
Hate to burst your bubble, friend, but your game is just not very good anymore.
>MY STATIC KICKED ME OUT FOR BEING A SPERG SO GAME SUCKS NOW
>[headcanon] is why XIV is still GOOD
Endwalker > Heavensward
Cope.
Ah yes, the friendless loser argument. We've already gone through this. Do you have anything new to add to the conversation, or just more whataboutism and autistic flailing? If not, I'll be over here enjoying good games like FF16 and Jack's game.
>Ah yes,
I accept your concession.
I accept your concussion.
Based XVI enjoyer and XIV despiser putting MMO cultists in their place
>time played as an argument
How many ultimates did you clear?
>doesn't realize sakaguchi isn't square enix employee and can say whatever he wants
We weren't saying otherwise. His words are worth less than nothing.
>hardest content is just listening to someone else shout orders over comms and standing in the right place at the right time while your rotation bot presses 123 for you
hmm
>mitigation
>buffs
>downtime problem solving
>you still need to know what you're doing
lets see you do it homosexual.
>mitigation
boss is casting? press bloodwhetting
>buffs
buttonmash every 2 minutes (your rotation bot will do it for you)
>downtime problem solving
unnecessary
>y-you still
lol no
>Looking for lights
>Audio recognition
>Memorization
>you still need to press the buttons in the right order
let's see you do it homosexual.
you dont even play the game. so im not gonna bother. i also stop caring about fflogs this raid tier.
FFXIV ARR and beyond is the best mainline FF since X. I get to fight an Amano-designed manifestation of the despair of the universe, throwing planets at me, on the back of the midboss rival who transformed into a dragon. That's what FF is for me.
only brainlets cannot comprehend and understand XIV story.
I only had fun with ARR and HW. The rest was shit and the story went from somewhat lighthearted to angsty teenager shit
>r-r-r-r-remember us
what a homosexual
shame the actual GAME part of this video GAME is fricking atrocious
>but XVI is only hated on Ganker
And ignored everywhere else.
ignored vs hate are two different things. people move on while some just complains about it non-stop, hence equals hate
Cope. It's universally hated. Ganker, Reddit, ResetEra, Twitter.
>XVIgay doesn't know the difference between your and you're
Instead of playing shitty games like XVI, you should finish your classes, ESL.
Remake is so trash and it literally takes it until ng+ to develop compelling gameplay
>but it's fun fricking garbage like SOP therefore KINO
Give back mom the wi-fi code, Zoomie.
Nomura and Kitase already planned all the games from story to combat and everything. The rest just do what is instructed. If you have ever played a Nomura game then you know FF7R has his DNA all over it just like Kojima with his games. You play any games they have been involved with and you know those are their games.
>nomura planned out the combat
do nomuragays make shit up to defend him or do they legitimately believe this shit? Nomura and kitase set up the story, Hamaguchi was on combat with Kitase probably having input as well.
>he doesn't know
kek
Someone even posted the interview earlier in this thread.
Nomura had input on the combat. Kitase wanted full-action while Nomura wanted ATB elements in Remake.
Except he literally did you dumb fricking Black person
read the replies to that post moron
Nomura is above Hamaguchi moron. Nomura oversees the entire project and Hamaguchi answers to Nomura
wrong, hamaguchi and nomura on the same level (hamaguchi being above nomura for part 2), they both answer to kitase
>Actually listening to this dumb fricking homosexual Max
Holy shit please have a nice day kek Max is a fricking idiot and doesn't know shit. Nomura is the creative director of the entire trilogy. It's HIS vision. Hamaguchi is there to do whatever Nomura tells him to do
>it's his vision
no it's not, he wanted 7R to be closer to the original but kitase told him to frick off. Kitase's the one in charge and he allocated specific roles to nomura, hamaguchi, and toriyama
That flans look like they literally copy pasted the asset from XV.......
The most exciting time of year is flanally come!
The Dawn of the Golden Age is Here.
Nomura is leading the Charge. JP-KINO will be Reborn with Rebirth.
Ironic weebs and westoids will be arrested and executed. Black Helicopters flying over MMO subscriber households.
Nomura Full Control is Imminent.
>nomura has to save Square AGAIN
Jesus Christ why doesn’t Nomura just leave this shithole company? It’s baffling how incompetent this company is without him
anyone big name who leaves square is destined to end up in mobile purgatory unless they are named tetsuya takahashi
The ONLY criticism I have of Rebirth is that it's T rated. Why the frick is not M rated? There is literally no reason for it not to be.
the only M-rated mainline FF is 16 and it bombed
Being M rated is not the reason XVI bombed. Two M rated FF games worked before it (Type-0 and Jack's game). XVI bombed because:
>The combat is braindead and requires no strategy . It's fun the first few hours but it gets boring and repetitive fast
>There is basically zero side content to take a break from the story. The ONLY side content is tedious, boring side quests which rewards are not even worth doing. And hunts.
>The pacing of the story is godawful. Things happen so fricking fast and then absolutely nothing happens for hours and then suddenly plot going 100 mph again
>The characters are mostly bland. The only good character is Cid and he dies like halfway through the game
>There is basically no exploration.
>Story takes itself way too serious and becomes a slog to get through. No fun allowed
>Story completely falls apart in the 3rd act
No, 16 flopped because they decided to skip PS4 and no one is willing to upgrade to PS5 just for a movie game
There is a reason why Sega keeps porting Yakuza games to PS4
>Two M rated FF games worked before it (Type-0 and Jack's game
both of those flopped LMAO
Both of those are budget games.
XVI made a profit, they didn't
>XVI made a profit
lol
lmao even
keep coping, it only gets funnier 🙂
They actually did turn a profit. Both SoP and Type0 sold over a million units which is profitable for a budget game. XVI however underperformed. Square needed XVI to do huge numbers because of Forspoken crashing and burning and it just did meh in sells. Meanwhile, ReMAKE in the first 3 days sold as much as FF XVI lifetime sales and ReMAKE has sold 7 million units as of September 2023
so ur saying XVI did turn a profit, it was just Forspoken being such a horrendous flop that tanked Square and led to low stock value?
Got it 🙂
>XVI however underperformed. Square needed XVI to do huge numbers because of Forspoken
Factually untrue
XVI's underperformance was not impacted in any way by other games.
sorry but xvi flopped. flopspoken came out in the quarter before xvi.
Neither of those games are AAA games. XVI was
>Type-0 and Jack's game
Both of these games sold worse than 16.
So this is what YoshiPgays keep telling themselves
Jack's game was literally one of the worst selling FFs in recent memory (which is a shame since it's kino)
They are fricking budgeted games and didn't even have a fraction of marketing XVI had. They both still sold over a million units which again, for a budgeted game, is a success
>stating facts in copium now
Yoshi-sisters are having a full meltdown now
>facts
its ok, brother, you can let go....
not everything in this world gets treated fairly......
Dude....Jack's game flopped lol. Type-0 did too
Did you play it at launch or a little after? I haven't really needed to shop for equipment because you either find it and that Onion Sword gets you through a decent amount of the game, weirdly enough.
Rookie mistakes. Who's responsible for that? What Inbred thought that's good?
16cels are probably seething but this post has been stamped with the based approval.
You forgot the most important reason of all
> PS5 exclusive
SE noticed they fricked up with that and have already shortened the exclusivity period of Rebirth TWICE solely due to how much it fricked 16
>SE noticed they fricked up with that and have already shortened the exclusivity period of Rebirth TWICE solely due to how much it fricked 16
How long is it currently supposed to be? 3 month exclusivity?
Because it wouldn't matter much, they still wouldn't be able to show a lot of stuff.
CERO has become extremely anal in its censorship in the past decade. There's a bunch of stories from both the FFVIIRemake and FFXIV/XVI dev teams about the hoops they had to jump through.
We aren't cross dressing, visiting brothels and being part of an eco-terrorist group bombing reactors and killing the innocent any more from here on out.
Cato?
Sirs, FF7R xbox? I cannot redeem?
Barry won
MMOhater won
Nomura won
yoshitroony lost
tabata drew
I thought Barry hated Nomura
He does, but he hates Yoshida more, and he won't hesitate to falseflag as a Nomuragay to get Nomuragays and Yoshidagays to fight.
Meanwhile I like both tracks for the series in parallel, as long as Tabata stays gone and they don't put Toriyama in a director's seat again.
>FFXIV fanfest and 6.5.5
>FFVII Rebirth
>FFXVI DLC
>FFXIV Dawntrail
>FF IX Remake
I'm eating good in 2024 while Barry can keep seething and telling himself (ex-)Luminous is making FF XVII.
oh boy i can't wait to have every last detail spoiled for me over 2 years while i wait for the pc version to come out. thanks squeenix!
Just buy a PS5, you're not a poor right?
i can afford one but i'm not paying that much for a shit fps/resolution version of like one game that i want to play.
Ganker likes Remake now?
we always did, there were just a few insane shitposters pretending like the ending was the worst thing ever made
I mean shills can post on Ganker so that does make them a part of Ganker I guess
Ganker always liked Remake. It was just fun to shitpost about the time jannies
never did you newbie. its all just tifaposting with remake. frick off. i hope she dies
after XVI came out, I grew new appreciation for XV and 7 Remake
I want a FFX remake in the style of FF7R now
Rebirth will be the greatest game of all time. I'm sure of it. Let's fricking goooooo! So fricking excited. Nomura won. Yoshi-P lost.
Why do you say all of this like it's some life changing thing. Just use magic. Does scrolling down and getting the game to read a different command excite you that much that validates your $70 purchase? Or are you autistic.
Nomura for president of Square Enix?
>if only you knew
Even in an image for ants, Aerith looks sexier than Jill from XVI. I'll slide my dick in Aerith.
>Armpits unexposed
One day the true goddess will return.
Fun fact: The FF7 Rebirth trailers are already better than FF16 as a whole.
Holy shit. It's true. It's damn true.
It's funny that the fun Rebirth is doing with all those open areas and fighting mobs and stuff is basically what Xenoblade has been doing for 13 years.
And just like FFXVI it will be criticized for generic side quests while Xenoblade has it far, far worse.
Xenoblade is a fun game with gameplay. XVI not.
yet its going to have the same quality of side quest like XVI once again and you gays will eat it up. 7R side quest were just as bad and pointless.
This is a straight up lie. I hate you side quest Black folk
I feel like people misunderstand how the issue isnt really the action itself, but what type of reward you get.
From what i'm seeing in Rebirth everything about quests will have a type of social link system that rewards you with more dialogue or interactions between party members
And FF7 has one of the most remarkable parties in a rpg, so it makes sense why people notice it a lot more than xenoblade.
7R is just a mix of Xenoblade and Tales of Arise and manages to do a poor job at being both but will be praised to the heavens for it because of the FF7 name.
>Xenoblade, Tales of Arise, FF7 Remake
>Tales of Arise
blud thinks he's part of the team
I find it hilarious when e celebs and homosexuals like Night Sky Prince, who shitted on Remake went on to jerk off and shill XVI like his life was on the line, only to play it and realize it was mediocre and is now doubling down on sucking Nomura's dick and Rebirth kek. Nomura always wins in the end
this grotesque homosexual mutt always makes me uncomfortable when I see his face
literally el atrocidad
I like Nomura and Yoship, XVI and VII Remake.
What now?
>I like Nomura
Stay
>and Yoship
GET THE FRICK OUT
you need to touch grass
>I have to use the blue against the red? W-wow!
XVIgays have been extra defensive lately.
Why you fight so much, this is the ff fanbase at all times.
>Premium Gamestop rewards member thingy
>Didn't get a physical copy of this
I'm pissed like you can't imagine. Gonna make me actually go into the store to get one.
Barry has been extra aggressive lately.
>cant talk about any new FF without someone seething about 16 in comparison.
At least with 15 you can point to a TON of flaws with that game but with 16 people really do seem to hate it just to hate it (at least until it comes to PC when we'll be inevitably filled with "why did people hate this game?" Threads"
16 threads had a lot of discussion about the game's issues but at some point it also became "you're barry" so it is not worth it.
Anyway, this is off topic for this specific thread.
And when the tons of flaws with XVI are pointed out, you start shitting your daipers and call everyone "Barry."
Tbf, Barry is the main marketer for FFXVI on Ganker
If people are seriously calling you Barry youre probably being way too autistic and sperging out too strongly.
Everyone gets called Barry, Barry.
I dislike 16 because the game is wasted potential. It had every right to be a masterpiece and it ended up being a middling hack and slash that had fun moments here and there. 7Rebirth actually looks like a fricking Final Fantasy. It actually looks like an RPG. Its world actually has a reason to explore it. Sorry but I don’t wanna play a game where I’m in a copy paste desert where all the items on the ground are 2 Gil.
XVI threads were never going to be coherent on Ganker because they had the same audience as the years of XIV shitposting threads.
16 threads were a shitshow from the start because people spent more than 2 years pretending that team was the embodiment of the holy spirit. So people just waited to clap back with all their forces when the game proved itself now that amazing as they said.
And then you add yoship's marketing cycle that was just awful.
And barry.
>And then you add yoship's marketing cycle that was just awful.
I don't know why people are surprised that everyone is pouncing on this game when this guy is smugly lying through his teeth like this. No idea why FF fans worship this guy
>FF fans
MMO-gays are their own breed tbh. And XIV players are the worst of the worst that I've seen.
Will we ever be free from 2021?
>kitty wallop
wowee
xvi is the perfect demonstration of why character action games should never be longer than 10-15 hours
It's interesting that there's so much (manufactured) whining about the affinities in this game, but if you look at a tales of thread they're complaining about having to switch to certain skills for certain enemies
It's almost as if Tales and FF are two different series with different fandoms who have different set of expectations for their series.
Nah, the connection here is they're both action games
There's more of a focus on team building and gear/equipment layout in FF than in Tales of. Tales has always been known for combos and shit. Something like VIIR isn't even full action. The harder VR missions will frick you if you treat it as an action game.
Can the barry chainreaction be stopped?
The dishonesty in this threads is crazy
For real. Yoshi-P stans are delusional.
Your post is exactly what I'm talking about
MMO s-slo-ACK
>MMO slop slurpers give high scores to MMO slop
Crazy.
>30 reviews
lol
lmao even
This, plus only the most die hard fans review these expansions. The score is completely meaningless.
>NOOO ITS JUST THE DIEHARDS EVERYONE ACTUALLY HATESA THE SCORES NOT REAL ITS NOT REAL IT GOES AGAINST MY NARRATI-ACKKKKK ACK ACK ACK ACK ACK
>best mmo
>best ongoing
>best online
>all awards exclusive to live service or mmos
I'm sure you're happy being a fan of the world's tallest midget.
how does it feel that a game you hate so much is universally praised and beloved while your favorite game of all time is just used as shitposting material and made fun of as open world slop? i imagine it must hurt quite a bit 🙂
watch his seethe when dawntrail comes out
>universally praised and beloved
>for an mmo
I'm sure you love posting wikipedia articles whenever you need to white knight xiv.
>universally praised and beloved
>for an mmo
yep, try going outside and actually talking to people
>Yep I am the biggest fan of the world's tallest midget
kek, at least you acknowledge it.
Nomura will never get a score like this in his career kek
Demo
when
Nomura won. Yoshida won. Final Fantasy XIV (dogshit live service troony game) lost.
FF16 had a budget of 400 mil so with advertising it needed to make about 700 million to break even. Sony probably paid like 50 mil for the exclusivity
source?
His ass.
I hope we see Jack again.
sex with cat
SoP>>>XVI>7R>>>>>>>>>>XV>>>>>XIV
elemental weakness was only done well in smt. always disappointed by final fantasy and dq ele system. like 25% bonus damage. homie you can barely tell, it should be double with a icon or a sound playing when you hit the right one.
>muh damage
elemental weaknesses should have different effects
water weakness? slowed and certain attacks disabled
ice weakness? stunned
fire weakness? continuous damage over time
elec weakness? short stun + high instant damage
piercing weakness? continuous damage whenever the target acts
blunt weakness? armour destroyed
etc etc
i mean that's just too much to the point most people won't really pay attention. just more damage is fine enough. as it currently is even if you hit a weakness in like dq11 you literally can't tell from how little extra damage it does compared to other spell
>it sucks on purpose
>adding more shit equals better
i'm glad you're not in charge of anything
that
anon isn't me bro
the point of having different effects is that it makes enemy variety feel much more unique rather than just a game of find weakness > hit weakness to kill it instantly
enemy is weak to blunt? hit the weakness then finish with physical attack
enemy is weak to fire? ignite and kite/finish with ranged
combine that with the actual behaviour of the mob and it creates a huge amount of enemy diversity
For me, it's Gav
As the most boring character in a video game? Good call. There are a lot of other options in XVI, though.
No as a faithful follower who is close enough to the plot to experience it, but far enough away to still be relatable to the player.
I didn't love this game but I did love some of the characters, come at me, anon.
This guy was really well written. A testament to XIV's high quality writing team. Basically, he meets Clive, then starts sucking Clive's dick, then keeps sucking it for the rest of the game. He never waivers, nor is he troubled by things like having autonomy or a personality. Just a loyal all around dick sucker. Brilliant, truly. A proper stand-in for the XIV fanbase.
He's loyal to Cid and his cause, whose legacy and cause Clive inherits.
>muh dreeeeeeeeam
Would have been nice if we actually got see Clive as a terrorist. He just starts blowing up all the infrastructure and ruining regular people's lives and the game goes
>and then a spooky alien showed up! Awooooo!
Why would he be a terrorist he's living through an apocalypse
>Why would he be a terrorist
That's literally what he and Cid are. That's why he's in hiding and the kingdoms hate him.
Why are all of you being so evil to P-kun, he tried his best. You should stop that.
Remake already had a "flan" and that was all those flying enemies that were weak to wind or something.
You either used magic or you wasted time by jumping in the air and hitting it once or twice, even then most time is spent waiting on the ground because the enemy is too high.
You said it was a flan yet described something that's not a flan.
I thought the whole point of a flan was
>weak to certain element
>resists physical damage
>is annoyingto fight if you have no magic equipped
As in it took time to kill if you were ill equipped. I don't think anyone has died to normal mobs in FFVII, so all it can do is hinder you.
I think ignoring how the character looks or behaves is not a good point to say "they are the same" because if we could do that anything that causes an instakill could be called a tonberry.
In general, aside specific enemies that have attack traits, the visual itself was all they had.
And i do think fighting these types of enemy will be vastly different in rebirth's combat.
I don't know what you're trying to say, anon.
It's jello, meaning physical stuff just either sinks into it or bounces off while the jello is unharmed because it's viscous. The whole enemy is designed to portray that it's resistant to physical attacks. It's a flan's only thing.
It's literally a timewaster enemy that poses a nuisance only and ever in the occasion you don't have the hard counter equipped.
These yoship haters think more about 16 than yoship does lul
You do realize 95% of it is a single autist samegayging right?
Final Fantasy VII: Unbirth into Tifa
FF14 doesn't have any elemental affinities anymore. Really makes you think
>Really makes you think
that the game is much better without them? Yeah.
Yoshida unironically thinks having 75 sidequests where you have an NPC talk your ear off about nothing while having no expressions just for you to walk somewhere and kill a random enemy that poses no threat to retrieve a random item and return to the NPC and have them talk your ear off again about nothing to then get a reward that has no impact on anything is great game design. he really thinks this way, actually
FFXVI doomposting was just a taste of the shitstorm we'll get when we get the fully action Dragon Quest 12.
Thankfully I don't care about DQ, so that will be a good time for me
>DQ12
No one cares about dragon quest in the west.
The actual shitstorm will be whatever Square does for the ending of rebirth, which the devs already expect to be a shitstorm.
Yoshi-P has found a brain dead audience with 14. He should just continue with that online garbo. But please don't let him ever near a single player FF ever again. That stuff is for the big boys, like Nomura or Ito.
Why do MMO-troons shit up every FF thread? Just make threads for your own game tbh
refer to
because someone brings up yoshi-p.
i'll say you're the one obsessed if you think about mmo-troons all day
rent free
When can we expect rebirth spoilers
16 good
jacks game good
remake good
"""final fantasy""" 14 bad
"""final fantasy""" 15 bad
shrimple as.
>b-but you have no friends, you just hate multiplayer
Hop on FFXI, homosexuals.
I'm with you anon though idk what Jack's game is
>Hop on [another shitty MMO played by troons]
Nah.
16 cost over 1000 million to make, no matter how much it sells it will be a flop.
>made up cost numbers
>keeps increasing each month
just like the holocaust. 6 million and still increasing.
but enough about Forspoken
Rent free
This is a barry thread
Why is he defending Nomura now? I'm not up to date on the barry lore
Because VIIR is releasing close to XVI so its a "competitor" or some dumb shit
of course everyone will forget about Barry doomposting about 7R because it was "XV but worse" or whatever because Ganker is filled with newbies
Nomura in charge of VII remakes ---> VII remakes are totally a copy of XV ---> XV is the best FF ever
This is the pecking order
Kitase > Nomura > Hamaguchi > Toriyama
Why are people simping for XVI, when even Max Dood called it "mid"? Friendly reminder that he was paid to shill for it. He was even on the stage with the devs. YET HE STILL CALLED IT MID. That's damning. Man, that's damning. He would be even harsher if he didn't have a good relationship with Square Enix.
>literal who eceleb
this is just like wowgays going "BUT MUH TWITCH NUMBERS" like homie get a life lmao
>literal who eceleb
Bro, he's practically a member of the FF16 team (Advertising & Public Relations). It's damning if he calls the game "mid".
>uhhhh go outside and STOP talking about videogames on the videogame board
the xvi cult don't like when reality invades their hugbox.
>THIS LITERAL WHO ECELEB WHO WAS INVITED TO AN EVENT IS A PART OF THE TEAM NOW HES IN ON THE CONSPIRACY!!!
touch grass.
>HES IN ON THE CONSPIRACY
lol there is no conspiracy.
go back to X (formerly Twitter)
Max is quite literally one of the biggest FF7 shill and had gotten shout out by the devs of 7R. We don’t need to touch grass you need to live in reality.
i dont care
>low iq brownoid american moron prefers the goyslop game over the WHITE MALE FANTASY game
shocking!!!
I seriously hope you don't take the opinion of someone who liked FFXV seriously
True. This is why I ignore Sakaguchi
refer to
CHINGER
When Max was asked on his stream what his top games of the year were someone asked him why he didn’t list 16 at all. He said the game wouldn’t be in a top 20 list hahahaha
>frogposting in 2023
I don't like FFXVI either but how come "use fire on fire weak enemy" is now considered strategy? Compared to even the trashiest of dungeon crawlers FF7 still barely qualifies as an RPG.
Final homosexualry was never good
>99 percent of encounters can be cleared by dickmashing the attack button
>occasionally have to pay attention long enough to use magic
wow riveting gameplay
It's never been about gameplay, it's always been the high watermark for visuals and story.
Ff16 is the most vidually impressive and beautiful game of the last few years.
I'm not wrong
>most vidually impressive
too bad it isn't visually impressive and at times look worse than XIII.
the seethe is real KEK
Really? This games cutscenes and combat visuals (mainly particle effects) felt like a big leap to me. Haven't felt this since Ghostrunner and Cyberpunk 2077 several years back.
Please do suggest some games with more stunning graphics for PC or PS5 I'd love to be wrong!
>Ff16 is the most vidually impressive and beautiful game of the last few years.
Why are you lying?
>68 ip
Grim.
I never understood the weird obsession of morons trying to discredit Nomura. Whenever something good is in FF dumb homosexuals love to say “ITS NOT BECAUSE OF NOMURA” there are morons who still don’t think Nomura came up with story of FF7 and try to downplay his involvement.
The Remake trilogy is literally headed by Nomura and Kitase. That is an actual fact. They are in charge. Why even try to argue about his involvement when he’s literally the co-captain? Jesus Christ
Look man, I just see the past 20 years of projects where the Nomura-Nojima tandem had free rein and it always ends up like this:
>convoluted nonsensical narrative
>ad nauseam reuse of the plot elements of clones, possession, identity crisis and time travel to the point of fetishism
>"dialogue" that mostly consists of sighs, grunts and rote interjections
And when you go back to the original FF VII, there it seems all that shit was still contained. But once you get to FF VII Compilation and now the Remake trilogy, it's the same autism unleashed as Kingdom Hearts.
>clones, possession, identity crisis
This is in the original Final Fantasy VII.
Yes, and they started doubling, tripling, quadrupling down on those again and again in every spinoff and remake. Crisis Core Angeal and Genesis, AC silverhair trio, then we get time jannies and a time-traveling astral projecting Aerith and Sephiroth in Remake with more implied timey-wimey stuff with Zack surviving. It's too much.
>and a time-traveling
FF1 already had it. Then FF8.
You fight literal darkness in FF3.
Visit alien planets in IV and IX.
Protagonist is a tulpa dream in X.
This is just final fantasy.
Seems like you don't play other FF games and then get mad when a final fantasy game is final fantasy.
None of that is at the level of convolutedness that Nojima and Nomura get up to.
You need a full room worth of mind maps and flowcharts to make sense of Kingdom Hearts and now the same is happening to FF VII.
>None of that is at the level of convolutedness...because it just isn't ok?
>Nojima and Nomura get up to
Nojima has only written one kh game and helped with the ending of the first.
You need another scapegoat.
>now the same is happening to FF
kek do you really think kh is the only series from SE to come with a flowchart in its databooks?
>You need a full room worth of mind maps and flowcharts to make sense of Kingdom Hearts
no you don't lol, just admit you have a peabrain and unironically got filtered by a children's game series
I love their autism.
Original FF7 came out 25 years ago, Nomura is not the same person as back then and fell off hard after KH1
I didn't read this entire thread, also FF16 sucks ass and so does the FF14 high-fantasy side of FF.
FF7 is and always will be the best, and so will Rebirth and Part 3.
All I hope is that the game world is huge and fun to explore. FF7 remake was shit. I never liked that city even in the original game apart from the mystery of what it actually was.
FF games haven't had the feel of an epic adventure. I hope Rebirth will have that. Graphics aren't enough. Gameplay alone isn't enough. And the Remake gameplay was too action focused for me and too easy. Voice acting? Fine. Models? Fine. Rewriting the story? Frick you.
Well I pre-ordered the CE that costed nearly the same as a console, so I hope the game is good.
So, how's the thread?
the yoshida defense force are losing their marbles
translation in English: Barry throws another tantrum and anons laugh at him
is barry in the room with you right now?
Can you point to any post that you know for sure are his?
you are Barry
>all the posters that make me mad are barry
I see.
>muh yoshida cultists/haters
why did yoshida make a good game (ffxiv) then ruin it (shitbringers and troonwalker) then make a good game again (ffxvi)
MMO-troons weeping mainly tbh
Annoying but expected from them.
XIV is the best because I can actually create a character in it
I wish all schizos a merry christmas
>16 is le good because 15 is le shit
>Rebirth is le good because 16 is le shit
Kek. Yoshitters and Nomorons are 2 sides of the same homosexual coin.
>muh elements
Summon -> Odin
I will now start posting webms.
God this looks so good, FF is popping off
We're so lucky bros, we got XVI, now Rebirth, and finally Dawntrail all in the span of a fricking year
we're eating so good
Don't forget FF IX Remake according to the latest leaks. We've known it's coming for years along with a French cartoon sequel.
I hope they can keep the magic of the original, the French are good cartoonists so I have hope
they better not frick with the soundtrack in the remake, the IX ost is fricking perfect and any remixes will just end up worse
Want some spoilers?
this fake shit again. stop.
Yes
Cute Quina
https://files.catbox.moe/pyefmk.pdf
https://files.catbox.moe/u08dyr.pdf
this means all the characters get themed costa del sol outfits r-right
Tifa Aerith and Yuffie should wear bikinis in Costa del Sol
Nu Tifa might as well be a man with that disgusting breast reduction. They turned her into a Asian woman and now I hope Sephiroth kills her.
Every single modded Tifa I've seen just looks off.
Her size in Remake is perfect, the extent she can look and have her fighting animations without looking goofy.
here's your costa del sol outfit bro
Too safe horny, I meant an actual bikini not that censored shit
>black chocobo
Breeding is back.
Confirmed cut. You will just catch different colored Chocobos instead.
>another stillbirth thread discussing everything but the game.
Kek. Merry Christmas ffg
>Dynamic Hip Check
We Keijo now.
>visor open
why risk other grunts recognizing him?
DEMO WHEN
January 31st. FF7 Anniversary and roughly one month before release. It makes too much sense.
>more than a month away
>game is 2 months away
Someone cast Sleep on me please.
>game is 2 months away
try 3
I liked XV a lot, its my third favorite game in the series.
>push button to win
>now push THIS button to win
>congratulations, you won
wow this is some fine kino in deed
Yes, videogames generally involve pressing buttons in reaching a win state.
>pressing the button in final fantasy 7 is the same as pressing the button in super meat boy
oh sweaty
Yes
>opens up google sheets
>pushes button
i'm gaming
MMO-troons ruin another thread
XIV cultists are the worse. I love the FF games. Even the modern ones since 12 are good (just not really good) but damn the 14 homosexuals are hyping this watered down shit like it's from jesus himself.
Don't get me wrong. I played ShB/EW but the story was shit. it reminds be of a bad emo song from the 00s for teenagers.
Why is it that the only people who don't consider the MMOs part of the main series are basement-dwelling secondaries, meanwhile every key personnel and member at Square love them and consider them as worthy FF games?
Because it's the company they work for dumbass
Most often poors filtered by monthly fees or so shit at playing that they have anxiety in playing with other people.
Because MMOs are shit and the people who play them are moronic.
>The non MMO players are the basement dwellers
L M fricking A O
Rebirth will end with Zack vs Cloud
The problem is that the MMO-troons can't be reasoned with. They'll shriek and yell and do nothing of merit. It's a problem that must be addressed.
>It's a problem that must be addressed.
>metacritic 87
>users userscore 8.0
Yet Ganker will not stop screaming about how it is utter shit. Really makes you think
>Flans weren't even in the original FF7
They're seething because their precious MMO is dying. This is what happens to MMO-troons. Like a fish out of water.
If you're talking about 14, it got 120k new players between September and November
>it got 120k new players between September and November
why are you lying? Luckybancho is not correct. And it's not players. It's characters you moron.
Damm you are more informed and obsessed than the mmotroons you hate
xiv is not wow, the vast vast majority of players only have one character
Its just Maehiro, XVI is about the same level as Heavensward, which means its just ok (HW was very highly received back in the day because mmo stories weren't known for being good back then, of course Ishikawa changed that).
>xiv is not wow, the vast vast majority of players only have one character
bullshit. all the erp homosexuals have different high level mod beasts.
but enough about wow
>metacritic 92
>users userscore 9.0
Yet Ganker will not stop screaming about how it is utter shit. Really makes you think
>metacritic 92
>30 reviews
lmao
>d-doesn't count
lmao
>metacritic score goes down when more people review it outside of the mmo bubble
see: XVI.
Endwalker and XVI are very different games from each other, moron
Both are MMO slop from mmo devs.
You are wrong.
XVI
>Numeroue mandatory fetch quests to advance the plot
>Cooldown combat system that you have no way to speed up besides wearing an accessory
>Flat, plain instanced areas straight out of an MMO
>the engine it's built on is literally XIV's
XVI is essentially an offline expansion of the MMO. That's probably why regular FF fans like me shit on it and the MMO fans dickride it.
I can tell you've played neither XIV or XVI
begone, underaged newbie
You haven't touched XVI if you think a single thing I pointed out isn't true. I played about 5 hours of XIV at the insistence of friends and dropped it because I have a functioning brain. Little did I know XVI would copy it wholesale under the guise of an action RPG. Get some taste and stop defending a game you clearly haven't fricking played.
nice larp bro
>XIV moron mad that XVI is an even shittier version of his shitty MMO
Back at you bro. Hope you enjoy the port.
>92
>9.0
>Look at my critic scores
Last of Us 2 > FFXIV. Meanwhile, XVI is still a very bad game.
can't wait to go around activating all the ubisoft towers and doing all the useless fetch/kill x monsters quests!
can't wait to not play it. in one of these threads some gay tried to tell me barrett's voice actor is one of the best in history. final fantasy autists are truly on another level of disabled.
>Flans weren't even in the original FF7
>Which means they will resist physical attacks
How does the first statement imply the second
A lot of y'all lack imagination:
"I hate sci-fi, therefore gimme boiler-plate medieval fantasy"
"I hate medieval fantasy, so gimme bland sci-fi fare"
I'm tired of both of those boring ass genres and always loved that FF was one of the very few franchises that really blurred the lines and created truly fantastical worlds. FFVII's diesel-punk world? Incredibly inspired. FFX's advanced Oceanic civilization? Something I've never seen in a video game since then. Even FFXV's modern adjacent fantasy setting with full service gas stations and armored knights. Wonky as hell, but always had me wondering what new vista I'd see around the corner (lol, which sadly wasn't much).
Final Fantasy, to me, is at it's best when it's creating an entirely new concept of what "fantasy" is, with each installment. So when I see people saying, "let's go BACK to an existing world, or an existing genre," I want to lose my mind. You want the old shit? Play the old games. You want those standard genres? Go play Witcher, or Mass Effect or the dozens of other clones.
Let Final Fantasy be weird and unique.
You get it bro
SoI don't understand how Yoshi P who is credited with some of the greatest final fantasy quests with FF14 could release such a mixed game. Not a bad game but not great either.
What happened? Are the FF14 expansions overrated? No that can't be it. The praise is too universal. So what happened?
New engine, lack of resources compared to CBU1, team predominantly consists of juniors.
The game's main weakness is the bland filler side content, where you see that the lack of experience in actually crafting a single-player action game while still insisting on having an RPG game length had a bad result.
Ryota Suzuki was good to bring in to refine the combat, it's a lot of fun, but they needed a different director than Takai as well. I want to see Takai make a traditional turn-based or SRPG instead.
>first game is just Midgar
>second game is the rest of disc 1
I am a bit worried that this will be the complete opposite of the first game.
As some who dropped the shit out if it after stormblood I still don't know about that. I see FFXIV fans worship Emet-Selch
and I can't help but feel that his stick as a tragic villian has been done better elsewhere. Like they are really good by mmo standards but when compared to the wider net of VG stories? Nah man. Certainly I don't feel like it's worth the 300 or so hours to get all of it done while paying for a subscription.
I also think the MMO format hinders these "great stories" in a way that doesn't make them feel great too, a key example is I'd like to have my player character do more than just nod mindlessly and look angry when stuff happens but there is only so much you can do when your character is just a stand in and has no personality of their own.
But then again when I talk about VG stories I'm also talking about VN's and those are Hella more niche than MMOs.
The most fun I had with FFXIV was Heavensward, where you were journeying with a rag tag Group of people who hate the shit out of each other at first and start to trust and bond with each other as they countinued to adventure together. That shit felt like exactly what final fantasy was all about, and it didn't devolve into simply killing God either since the root of the conflict was human/whatever race we are playing with prejudices, and you were killing a pope stand in that thought he was hot shit.
Something that is the complete polar opposite of FF16 ironically enough.
Also FF14 had the good sense to not start killing out characters until the few last arcs so that you can actually get to like them, unlike 16.
based square milking you autists for al your money with these slop remakes
FF16 gave me one of the most memorable moments of ultimate gaming euphoria that I've ever experienced in my life, but it still somehow ended up being like a 7/10 for me. I really wish they would have kept it more centered around the Eikons and had none of the Ultima stuff.
>FF16 gave me one of the most memorable moments of ultimate gaming euphoria that I've ever experienced in my life
Same. When I was finally done with it after a two month slog.
The DLC plot of The Fallen engineering their own Frankenstein eikons should have been wrapped into the main story. Ultima was just so fricking boring it was insulting. Imagine Ifrit taking on some mecha godzilla equivalent. It hurts because you can see the 10/10 lingering in the shadows, but so many narrative and design choices keep bringing it down.
What was that moment?
>TOTK/BOTW map beacons.
>TBD if "cloud you can't go that way right now" bumper bowling is going to impact exploration.
>TBD if every time you open a chest it's a shitty fricking rank1 potion or ether (looking at you, the entire playthrough of FF7R part 1)
>TBD if lame timeBlack person fate-ghost storyline will pay off or just be a colossal AOT tier shit storm.
I will be playing this shit on day one, but man that is just crazy people forgot all the bad parts of the first remake and are like "WE ARE SO BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!?!?!!1" when they literally made a 25 hour game out a fraction of disc 1 and are gonna be charging you 300+ for the finished product when part 3s done.
OK, I've officially tapped out at just over 5 hours. I played up to the and my feelings haven't really changed at all. I'm so bored by the story/characters/world (Baby's First Game of Thrones), the grey/brown/green aesthetic is dull to me, the combat doesn't have much sense of threat so I just feel like I'm going through the motions. I also think it's too visually busy and often I can't even tell what the hell I'm looking at during chaotic fights - just a shitton of particle effects and blobs flying around.
My only positives would be that graphically it looks great even if I don't like the aesthetic, the score is really good, and the voice acting is solid (especially Ralph Ineson as Cid).
But I'm not not engaged with it at all. I didn't love FF15 but at least that had charm through the party interactions. I just feel nothing about anyone in this game except maybe Cid. Can't do another 25 hours of this so I'm bailing. Time to pick a new Christmas game I guess lmao.
I love this franchise so it's a huge bummer tbh. At least Rebirth will hopefully get the taste out of my mouth in a few months, but if this is the direction for the mainline series moving forward I might be getting divorced from FF.
>OK, I've officially tapped out at just over 5 hours
From now on I will call you The Wise One. Very good call on your part. The beginning is actually the best part, it gets all downhill from there.
>reddit spacing
What's the end goal of aggressively shitting on 16 on Gankerg
Like what effect does that have on anything
>goal
return to l'eddit libtard
You're a 2016 tourist though
Perfect block is going to make this game way too easy.
My GOTY this year (but I have not played the other big titles lol).
In my case the demo (first 2 hours) was what sold it to me. But I ended enjoying the game until the end and it has become one of my favourite FF. For what it is I thought it was great, but it has very low quality sidequests and lacks some things that would have made the game much better.
But is one of these games that I will never forget thanks to its story, characters and BSO (and I also found it very fun to play).
In your case if you did not enjoy the first 2 hours I highly doubt that it will click for you. So, no, it does not get better than the first two hours (well, eikon battles improve a lot becoming much more playable).
On top of the usual complaints about the game (pacing, gameplay loop, lack of RPG elements, etc.) I would also add the setting.
I'm tired of the warring empires setting in FF, which is hard to avoid since it's the bread and butter for fantasy settings. Five of the last six FF (XI, XII, XIV, XV and XV) are set in this template and it's gotten really stale by now. Give me back my ragtag party of people journeying through a fantastic world where I can believe stuff is happening. XIII had the heart in the right place but failed miserably making the (great in concept) world feel alive. XVI map made the world feel extremely small and XV felt like 80% of the story happened in a tiny region. Can't say much about the MMOs because I haven't played it.
Basically, follow VII, IX and X world building please. Also, if we could stop make everything orbit around summons for one second it would be great.
I think that the use of elemental weakness in FF7R was a bit gimmicky. Flans are fine but elemental weakness should be optional for the most part. In FF7R too many filler fights just felt like they were too hard on higher difficulty unless you used the "solution" element. I know it makes the regular enemies more lethal but that just isn't very Final Fantasy.
I think the beginning of the game is very strong. Combat gets better later on, but everything else will probably stay more or less the same, if not get worse.
Haven't finished the game yet (playing since launch, but taking huge breaks to play other games, etc.). Just beat Bahamut.
Overall enjoying the game.
But there is so much "filler". Obviously, the game's side quests suck. But some of the main quests are no better. I.e. quests like "speak with 5 people, then go collect resources somewhere, then speak with someone again". Fights against regular minions are often easy and boring. But, in my opinion, the game's combat works really well for mini-bosses or bosses.
Exploration is bad, the only worthwhile activity you can stumble into is some "notorious mark" (when you accidentally find a difficult enemy in the open world, it's fun!).
Unlike OP, I find the game's (mostly) serious tone to be a good thing. In fact, it's one of the reasons I bought the game in the first place, after playing the demo.
I'd say cutscenes that actually progress the story are perhaps the strongest aspect of the game. But the game's pacing is uneven, and you often have to sit through filler content before you get to anything interesting.
MMOtroon schizobabble yoshitpiss dicksucker
Witcher 3 did well to separate the different regions and factions (even using different currency). Dhalmekia is very different visually, but everyone has the exact same accent and dialect as the rest of the world which makes it feel like its not as large. I do get a bit sick of how clean a lot of fantasy settings are, where everyone has pristine modern hair styles and spotless armor of which FF16 still kinda does despite its new age rating.
There's also like, a weirdly clean look to the combat where there's basically no blood and you're teleporting around doing air combos, contrast with some of the cutscenes where it can be very serious and violent. Some of the things they do with the age rating are interesting but I do wonder if it was ultimately worth it sales wise to do that.
I don't think they're anywhere near the worst sidequests in terms of writing or even some of the rewards on the + ones, but there's really nothing there gameplay wise. For Jrpgs in general im typically avoiding side quests because I KNOW they're going to just be mostly not very interesting. The complete opposite of games like BG3, Witcher 3, Disco Elysium where there's some of the most memorable writing in optional content and makes exploring their worlds completely worthwhile.
>PCgays bragging about getting sloppy seconds
Alright so everyone shit on demake part I. What's the sequel doing differently that has people excited?
it's kino because nomura took over and also dabbed on yoshi
Post hidden.
Anyone else with a real answer?
nomura has no part in rebirth. its hamaguchi. still dont care and wont get getting rebirth.
he is the creative director, he apporves the ideas brought to him.
>wont get getting rebirth
The FF7R hating pajeet is back! Good morning, sir!
Seems to have a greater variety of content, a more visually appealing and explorable world, and expands on the 10/10 combat. But I'm going to read some user reviews first because both Remake and XVI had way too much braindead and mandatory filler, so if Rebirth follows the same trek I'll wait till it's on sale.
>10/10 combat
nice bait
Remake's combat is perfect. It's exactly what FF mainline should be pursuing here forwards. Everything else in the game is middling. But if Rebirth fixes the surrounding issues then it'll be a great game. The combat is already stellar.
where is the white monster goblin part of Cat Shit
do you expect them to respect the original ip
moron
kys
Honestly, every JRPG should just follow the Trails series when it comes to side quests. They've been doing it right for almost 20 years now. Your party members are involved in the quest sand those with knowledge that match the situation take up a big role. You usually explore a lot, gather information, learn about the people, the area and get access to completely new locations. Some of the quests, specifically those in SC, Cold Steel 3 and 4, feel like more main story content with how much is going on. I'd say Xenoblade 3 is probably the closest we've gotten to something comparably good.
Which is interesting to think about compared to FFXVI. I was shocked when (XVI Spoilers) . Joshua . actually started commenting on the last few side quests in the game and Clive responds back to them. Why wasn't this in the game the whole time? You're immediately confused at the very first quest in the game, because the entire confrontation there makes no sense following the cutscene you just go out of. Clive is posing as Jill's branded on the way to Martha's tavern, and the Chocobo Merchant confuses him as a branded on a mission despite his 'master' being right there. Yet here we are at the end of the game and this party member is actually aware of what's happening in the quest and talking to Clive about it.
>spread your ass and shit all over a thread
>the mmotroons did this!
>Remake/Rebirth's version of hard mode is a NG+ that really wants max level characters and is heavily restricted in item/spell use. They aren't just a higher difficulty, they are basically an entire new gameplay mode that requires intimate knowledge of the game's systems ahead of time. I'm not a fan of the mode myself but people being upset it isn't available from the start doesn't make sense cause you literally could not complete them with a fresh save.
I heard the same so many times and I don't buy it, sorry, there's a reason why some people do iron man runs of games for their first playthroughs. Just let people decide how they want to experience videogames.
And fwiw, I'm planning to wait for a mod unlocking the maximum difficulty with Rebirth (there's already one for Remake).
Anyway, even if you were right, that doesn't change the fact the normal difficulty settings for recent FF titles are often laughable and there is no decent option to have a real challenge during your first playthrough. It's almost as if they wanted people to experience the game as a movie during that first time and yes, if there was no unlockable hard mode you can be sure I'd be b***hing about it anyway.
FF has never been hard
>people do first run iron mode
Sounds like some autistic homosexual shit. Also you clearly didn't even play the hard mode in remake based on what you said.
There are two things I miss about older sidequests in not just FF but the jrpg genre in general. The first is just how much of it was technically optional but never came across as secondary. Multiple areas and areas of areas in IV are places you could just accidentally come across and presume they're where you simply need to go next. Most of the final world in V and the second world in VI are entirely optional, yet largely expected for the average player to encounter and generally balanced with the expectation of completion. VII has a full continent and a number of optional dungeons many players don't ever realize are optional. Many areas in VIII are optional, most of XII in general is optional, and the second world of XIII has loads of optional content.
The second is how much of this optional content featured further exploration and development of concepts present in the mandatory parts of the game. All of what's listed above features very similar gameplay to everything else in the game. Because of this, it feels properly developed and genuinely fun to partake in. As solid as triple triad is, it's the first major point in the series where a form of content is just straight up entirely distinct from the main game. It worked well enough in VIII and IX (and to an extent Blitzball does in X) because it's at least an experience that the developers spent significant time to ensure felt solid enough from a gameplay standpoint.
man as much as i absolutely loved playing FF7R, replaying it is such a fricking slog
Ok I played a bunch more (at the 90% mark now) and yes the story absolutely tanks more than I expected and becomes a shonen trope bore.
I'm not sure if I still prefer it over FFXV tbh.
I knew in advance to avoid the bulk of the side quests. However, I had no idea that filler-quality tasks would impose themselves into the main quests.
I still am not at the level of saying it's one of the worst games I ever played, but it's far more flawed than I would have thought for many reasons already discussed.
It gets much worse after the prologue.
I'll put it this way - as someone who's never played FF14 and who heard left and right about how FF16 was going to be good because it had Yoshi-P as its producer, I was so disappointed by FF16's story that it's made me not want to play FF14 at all.
you sound like a moron with no taste
>moron with no taste
He literally just said he doesn't play FF14 though.
>n-no u
im going to find you and im going to saw your skull off
im going to keep you alive, and im going to pour boiling tar down your throat
got any epic gotchas for that?
>>this entire post
You couldn't catch your own shadow without going into cardiac arrest, fatty lmao.
nice projection
>Fatty with virgin power fantasies claims projection
Lmao
>p-p-power fantasy
go dilate out of your neovegana, troon
>I'm gonna hunt you down I'm such a badass got any EPIC comebacks?
>n-nice projection...
I bet you have a fricking open bag of snacks next to you right now you fricking mouthbreather ahaha
wrong. I just got finished raping your mother. I'm about to kill her. How does that make you feel?
>stress eating intensifies
Lmao
I found XIV to be even worse than XVI in basically everything but music. The music in XVI is as bland as the rest of the game but in XIV is amazing. Funny because it's the same guy
How is 14 comparable?
t’s an ongoing MMO
XVI music can be soul sometimes
Playing this immediately after Like A Dragon Gaiden may have been a mistake. I love how that game lets you skip any individual line of dialogue, but in this game you just have to sit through it even when you've finished reading the line and it's delivered soooo slooooowly and it's so dull and lacking in personality.
you might have ADHD, anon
It lacks ff14 variety, gameplay depth and Classic setting and big world.
Imho yoship and its creative team took the wrong choices : too simple, too Linear, too much dark and monotonous in every aspect.
And too much repetitions everywhere. You have the rotation in combat and plot. That 's It.
Also lacking a big world and amy depth the people play It and move over. Like the marketing also, It did not shift, all same and people Lost interest.
Seems harsh as i enjoyed It but the more i think about the more i am sad.
Rebirth seems to react to the weakness of 16 as its marketing put effort on world, variety.
>It lacks ff14 variety, gameplay depth and Classic setting and big world.
Is this bait?
>It lacks ff14 variety, gameplay depth and Classic setting and big world.
>aislop
try again.
We are living in the 2020s grandpa
ok, that looks pretty cute.
One of the most noticeable aspects of Final Fantasy XVI is its remarkably intricate and compelling storyline. The game offers a vast, intricate world teeming with political intrigue, personal vendettas, and epic battles. From the very beginning, players are drawn into a rich tapestry of characters and a narrative brimming with emotionally charged moments. The captivating storytelling, complete with unexpected twists and turns, kept me eagerly pushing forward, eager to discover more about the deeply layered plot
Furthermore, the character development in FF16 is exceptional. The protagonists are wonderfully fleshed out, each with their own distinct personalities, motivations, and character arcs. Their interactions throughout the story are filled with genuine emotion and growth, forging a bond between players and the in-game characters. I found myself genuinely invested in their journeys, their successes, and failures.
new thread
>it's a new thread is an old thread episode
It was supposed to be a Rebirth thread...why are MMO-gays like this?
Blame Barry.
Was kid Cloud a weirdo loner because nobody except Tifa liked him or did nobody except Tifa like him, because he was a weirdo loner?
sex