No he fricking won't.
If anything he's going to make a comment asking "Where'd that delicious little pink one run off too?" or something and Tifa and Yuffie are going to beat the shit out of him.
NTA but he is refering to the scene in Junon where Rufus first says he gonna let Cloud and gang do their thing as logn as they don't get in Shinra's way but then Yuffie does the assasination attempt and Rufus thinks Cloud and the gang were in it
>tifa: i don't even know you and was written in as a new love interest after they decided to kill aeris in the original game pre-1997 lol
Such an inorganic BECAUSE IT WAS WRITTEN character is the subject of the biggest shipping campaign of all time. It's hilarious.
Anon the original FFVII drafts also had shit like Aerith and Sephiroth being siblings, then lovers.
It had shit like Aerith actually whoring her way up the ranks of the Honey Bee for Corneo's attention, then that morphing into Tifa.
It had shit like killing off most of the party on the return to Midgar. Sorceress Edea was designed for FFVII and wasn't even used until FFVIII.
All that matters is the what's present in the final product. Every video game, book and movie you've ever enjoyed had gone through countless revisions and changes in the early draft processes and they've all had ideas throw out the window that you'd never see.
Your arguement is disingenuous, and by your own logic the Aerith from the original first drafts is likely so radically different than what we got, she wasn't the Aerith you know. Same with everyone else.
Uh-oh, someone got hurt by the truth. This was a late-ish change in development, hence how heavily the game pushes Aeris as the love interest and you get shit like her and Cloud being "perfect for each other."
>entire schizo argument hinges on OG FF7 being only canon and compilation being not canon >now even OG FF7 is not canon enough
No wonder Clerithsisters are mostly troons. Being mentally ill is a feature.
both
I'm happy that there's so much to do but I'm burnt out playing as much as I have that I don't really want to do it for now and I might just go straight for the story clear
I'm worried about part 3, I'm looking forward to the party dealing with Cloud being mental and the Shinra Wutai war but I think they're gonna frick it up.
one thing I really like about remake is that yuffie being mandatory means she gets to have a lot more interactions with the group. lots of great bants in the cloud/barret/yuffie party I always ran in the OG game
yuffie was always a dumb teenager, its just easier to tell because she has more lines and has voice acting now. if you have her around when barret is going into how he lost all his family and friends to shinra burning down corel when they promised them a better life then working in a coal mine - while everyone else is shocked at what happened, yuffie says she won't sympathize because obviously you would never trust shinra because she's a dumbass teenager that can't empathize
How the frick do you go from how barebones remake was to this? this shit is fricking endless and everything has its own banger track and is meaningful in some way
I'm not even talking about stretching a short part of the game; I'm talking about how many layers rebirth has and how much it does when it doesn't even need to. You turn around a corner and you have a fully fleshed out minigame that makes everyone in the party interact and has a fricking banger of a song that you may only maybe hear once
Compare that to the mechanical hand and all those empty hallways in part 1. Come on, you can't tell me they didn't have enough time to put a bit more effort on that
I guess Remake had to establish the basics in terms of working out the combat system and everyones movesets and whatnot. It still had some neat stuff like the bike section or that Moulin Rouge musical section at the Honey Bee Inn. There was still a lot more variety and elheart in it than in something like FF XVI for example.
Actually this was explained.
Majority of Remakes development was essentially creating the base for all 3 titles. From art style, to design, story, mechanics, etc. In an interview they stated that after Remake development time would speed up significantly between releases. So I imagine the final game will be out in 2-3 years. Rebirth was delayed and still released in like 3 years?
Remake release was April 2020
Rebirth was Feb 29th, 2024 so a little less than 4 years
I wouldn't be surprised considering with the tiny bronco reveal that the map is fully connected, that we get part 3 in 2027 albeit late in the year.
Except that they didnt design Rebirth with the airship in mind so now theyll have to redo parts of the world for the airship
3 months ago
Anonymous
It's not like Gongaga or Nibelhiem are gonna need to be revisted in part 3 though
3 months ago
Anonymous
But the whole world should be able to be revisited if you have an airship.
3 months ago
Anonymous
That's your opinion and am I glad you are not a game dev
3 months ago
Anonymous
So are you saying there will be no flying at all in part 3 and that it will just be a menu? Because the devs said the opposite.
3 months ago
Anonymous
I don't know, i haven't played part 3 yet and I'm not a dev, As a player, if they gonna add flying in the world map, it needs to serve an actual purpose other than "Well, now we are flying over the map"
Anon I don't think you understand how much shit is in this game. I'm not even talking about environments or how big the map is and shit; I'm talking about how much budget went into VA (for protagonists and even side npcs), all the 300 songs, all the animations, cutscenes, scripted events. I wouldn't bat an eye if it was a linear, 20 hour game but this shit is humongous
this game is very long it took me 75 hours to complete and i only did the main story plus the world intel/side quests. i don't want to imagine how long a completionist run would be.
Why are you swapping materia? The game gives you 7 auto casts, 6 restores, at least two of every element, and an assortment of those auto-ability ones. You should have enough materia to have every character prepared for combat at all times.
i rewatched the remake clerith scenes and its clear the devs put effort in make then look like a couple, and its quite weird how relaxed cloud is around her from the get go, he always had a soft spot for her but ofc some of it in this current timeline is because of time travel bs that happens in remake, that usual cloud stiffness is not a thing when hes around aerith, thats clearly intensional by the devs.
if you pick aerith it get obvious how the devs wrote them as a couple, maybe they keep their relationship as a tragic one but its clear that the next game will have more clerith content.
>was invested in the whole mystery of whether they were going to kill off Aerith again or someone else this time >got spoiled a week before release by a picture of Cloud putting Aerith in the water like in the original >had a worse time with it because I knew Aerith was going to die instead of wondering what was going to happen >eventually reach the end of the game after 50 long bloated hours >the picture I saw was fricking fake, the water scene isn't even in the fricking game >it still ruined my experience because it made me certain that Aerith would die and she did
I'm so fricking mad right now
Do enemies in Rebirth have way more unblockable attacks than in Remake? Feels like my AI controlled characters are getting absolutely decimated in battles sometimes.
Yeah for sure. My one request for part 3 is that they tighten up the dodging and blocking windows because a lot of the time I find myself getting Dark Souls by an unblockable attack that I dodged several frames before
Why did the gang get so angry when cloud wanted to kill elena? You know, someone who tried to kill the gang for the entire game? An enemy like everyone else in the game?
Yeah, it's not what good guys do. Elena was already down and defeated. It would be null and evil. Same with how the laws of wars forbid killing surrendering soldiers and POWs. Of course it happens but there's a reason you don't show off killing prisoners because it kinda paints you in bad light.
because despite cloud having a sword bigger than himself he obviously doesn't kill anyone based on everyone's reactions to dyne killing a handful of people
This too, defeating someone in battle doesn't mean you outright kill them, they are just "defeated". Same with how most enemy grunts you fight against have their faces masked so you don't see them as individual people but just mass of enemy forces. While dramatic battles have you fighting an actual character, like compare fighting Shinra grunts vs fighting Turk characters
It may not look like it in gameplay, but avalanche doesn't actually kill anyone, just "defeats" them. So when cloud starts losing control and murdering people in cold blood, they know it's not him acting himself. And they don't want him to fall into a dark void.
finishing up chapter 9, currently on proto relic shinra facility training mission 2. enjoying the gameplay but feel burned out.. need to break from the game for a couple of days.
OK I finished the game. I loved the game but I feel a little conflicted, it missed a lot of the mood from the og. Case in point cosmo canyon. It just felt off. Or it was doing its own thing.
Cosmo Canyon felt too much like a tourist trap, and the whole game i too modern in fashion sense outside the main cast. And I'm not sure that feelings forum thing really fit either.
OK I finished the game. I loved the game but I feel a little conflicted, it missed a lot of the mood from the og. Case in point cosmo canyon. It just felt off. Or it was doing its own thing.
Its cause more of the OG was like a handful of screens. You just start at the doorstep of Cosmo Canyon and go in, its a small area, and then you go into the fairly short caves with the Gi and Seto. Expanding the main-story section to like 2-3 hours will make the mood feel off.
Gongaga kinda sucks, but you can see the mushrooms on the map if you zoom in. I can't remember, but was the Chocobo mandatory to get? Definitely need one to get around.
how do you typically explore in these zones? if you're going by checklist from the towers you're doing it wrong unironically because you'll be lost trying to figure out how to beeline from point A to B let alone trying to figure out how to get to some of the towers.
the way I did it was I would pick a trail and follow it and then if it branched off I would follow the branch and then double back after I was done. you'll be finding points that you can fast travel back to if you're too far gone so if you're ever in the situation where you have multiple mushroom jumps you won't feel that fricked.
Fastest way to farm SP? I’d like everyone to have L3 limit breaks before going to the temple of ancients, but frick me most of the side content is boring
Probably my favorite sidequest in the game because it ties with Cloud's photos in AC. People always said he was taking photos of flower fields because of aerith and they werent wrong.
That sector 5 date is just aerith knowing those will be their last moments and trying to spend the most time she can with Cloud. I dont know if it is exactly og Aerith, but clearly a version of her that knows those will be their last moments together.
I think it is future Aerith and she makes sure the essence of Holy comes back to her former self.
Most likely Sephiroth took away those memories with his jannies. It's a chess match between lifestream Sephiroth and Aerith.
For now Sephiroth 1 - 0 Aerith.
Aerith is sort of in the limbo state and the time jannies are obstructing her next move.
3 months ago
Anonymous
I don't know, maybe 1 - 1. She did come to assist beating his ass in the edge of creation this time and he flies smirking off like a loser.
3 months ago
Anonymous
They really should have saved that fight in part 3.
I accept that she still lives, but immediately kicking Seph's ass after her fake death really devalues the mood.
I think it's bad for Sephiroth too now that we have been kicking his one winged ass twice.
3 months ago
Anonymous
She did die. That's lifestream Aerith.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Yeah I know, I mean, it screams to the audience "We are doing multiverse where we can pull anyone unto the stage" when they can at least be more subtle about it.
3 months ago
Anonymous
I swear if they pull that multiple dimension hole and call out "Avalanche assemble nonsense" in part 3. I will definitely flip the table.
3 months ago
Anonymous
True. But they could still go off in a different direction with it. I think many, myself included, kind of half expected her to just flat out live at the end of this but they did something different with it altogether.
Though Kitase's wishes for the happy end for his characters after 30 years makes me question how tragic they'll let the end really be.
The whole context around aerith's death is different in this trilogy. In the og was a tragedy and an accident, now we have a whole plotline of she dies everytime and is a constant in that universe.
I dont know what to feel about it, it adds to the tragedy but it also makes me want to change her face because that's just too shit for her, she doesnt deserves it.
I've been contemplating on that too, and my current thinking (it can change ofc) is that if she dies again in Rebirth like in the original, it won't have affected you the way the og did back when you first play it. Old players would just feel "ah shit here we go again" and then forget it in a week. There will be a ton of references and memorials for her in part 3 and probably a final posthumous battle but that won't make you feel anymore than you having been spoiled. It's different context and time.
Although for new players who only plays the Remake, they got robbed hard of that big moment.
>I've been contemplating on that too, and my current thinking (it can change ofc) is that if she dies again in Rebirth like in the original, it won't have affected you the way the og did back when you first play it.
I think it would have had more of an effect on me if it was the same as the original than whatever this clusterfrick is. But Remake with Aerith knowing more than she should and whatever made me lose interest in the character so I didn't really care when she died.
3 months ago
Anonymous
I think Aerith knowing her future and fate is an interesting thing because it adds to her tragedy and relationship with Cloud. Every interaction she had with him had 10 different layers hidden beneath. What i dont like a lot is having fricking fate trying to kill her because her death is mandatory.
In general the whole meaning and impact of her death just are not the same because he have fate and jannies wanting her death, it loses the meaning of her death. As people say, it is just Final Destination: Aerith now. And if that is the story they want to tell i would rather have us saving her in the third game.
I theorized they thought of making the scene one to one like the original, but because the original is so iconic and everyone knows it, it wouldn't be surprising or have the same feeling as the original, so they didn't outright show it and put more emphasis on the overall story they did want to tell.
That's why so many people can watch the rebirth version and still understand what happened, because her death is so iconic and engraved in gaming culture. Her death became expected so they gave you the unexpected to not give you the same feelings but something similar.
It isnt just a vision, she sends a lot of stuff to marlene, even her feelings. Which is also interesting because it shows that Aerith loved Cloud even in midgar. Probably because she already knew him.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>It isnt just a vision, she sends a lot of stuff to marlene, even her feelings. Which is also interesting because it shows that Aerith loved Cloud even in midgar. Probably because she already knew him.
I dont know if she already loved him a lot, but toriyama says how her words "you cant fall in love with me" are also directed at herself. So she probably knows she will fall in love with Cloud but was trying to keep her distance because she knew her fate.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Makes sense, it is a tragedy she can see it coming but cant do much. The tragedy in this case would be them falling in love with each other.
3 months ago
Anonymous
It's implied she does. Giving the yellow flower to 'reunite lovers'. That's why I still think it could be a time loop or spiral.
>gets paid to roleplay as his fursona >plays the double agent to be able to take down Shinra and save the planet thus saving face while keeping his profits >takes over the assets of Shinra and ends up forming the clean energy equivalent of Shinra thus probably becoming one of the richest men in the planet
Was Reeve the smartest guy in the whole game?
I always took it as the WRO essentially just seizing the assets of Shinra thus essentially being Shinra in all but name. Does this mean Reeve is still loyal to Rufus? Does any of this still matter in a post Compilation world?
>I always took it as the WRO essentially just seizing the assets of Shinra thus essentially being Shinra in all but name.
You can assume that, it would make sense, but Shinra does still exist but what assets they kept/loss after Meteorfall is never addressed. >Does this mean Reeve is still loyal to Rufus?
Nah Rufus is just a sponsor and probably has no intentions of getting involved. AC was supposed to establish him as generally remorseful for Shinra's misdeeds (though the movie doesn't do the best job of showing that imo.) >Does any of this still matter in a post Compilation world?
Nope.
>only 3 chadley challenges left for platinum >all three are 5-10 round endurance super boss aoe spam cancer fights with the hidden super boss as well
I think I've had my fun with the game now.
Because in the OG Aerith saves the world by controlling Lifestream from the dead and routing the Life Stream to absorb the impact from Meteor. If she doesn't die, the world is doomed. That's why Sephiroth tried to make Aerith's White Materia null in Rebirth
We know the holy materia is filled with memories, so i wonder if Aerith gave it to Cloud because she will help him get his original self back by inserting his memories in it.
Nah, it had an actual objective, that was to have Aerith giving him the white materia, and using the opportunity to spend her last moments with him. But the part where we'll fill it with something is only in part 3.
Maybe the date was to fill that white materia of memories
In the dream date Aerith gave Cloud the intact White Materia that wasn't sucked dry by Whispers. Cloud then gives it to the real world Aerith who in return gives Cloud the empty materia.
She gives it to Cloud because she knows her Holy is empty in the main world. Cloud then hands it to Aerith in the forest, gets the essence of Holy back and gives the hollow orb back to Cloud. You can see the Holy materia that falls in the water is whole again.
I know, i was talking exactly about the objective of the hollow one. Aerith isnt the type of character that would care about coming back, so that is definitely a mechanism to help Cloud. If we save Aerith in part 3, it will be because of Cloud and Zack's actions.
Unless this hollow materia is to fill up with new memories, that might call forth some unexpected stuff during the meteor crashing outcome or some other stuff. Like trapping Sephiroth inside the hollow materia lol
>Like trapping Sephiroth inside the hollow materia lol
It would be kinda funny, but not really weird considering the nature of ff7's world. But i really think it is probably related to Cloud, in the same way Aerith was "complete" when she had holy, that thing will probably help Cloud get his memories back. Sephiroth cant really be imprisoned because the core of his existence isnt even himself, but Cloud, at any point in time where he remembers him.
I'm starting to think Sephiroth actually thinks of Cloud as more than just a puppet. Like some creepy "Miquela is mine and mine alone" vibe. Like Sephiroth HAS the black materia then drops it just to tell Cloud to give it him again.
In the OG Sephiroth/Jenova was so invested in Cloud because 16 yo grunt Cloud bested Sephiroth and threw Sephiroth in the mako pit and they then used Cloud as a tool to retrieve the black materia and bring it to Sephiroth in North Crater. You were never actually chasing Sephiroth. You were led by him/Jenova
I haven't had this much fun with a game in a while. Very excited for part 3. however. They removed the spooky face from the cavern of the gi. So it's 0/10 for me
>RETRY FROM BEFORE CURRENT BATTLE >RETRY FROM THIS BATTLE >hmm I guess I should pick the second one, it sounds right >UHHH ACKSHULLY FRICK YOU REDO THE WHOLE FRICK
who the frick designed the options like that
Welp the secret boss is a virtual sephiroth whos big play is to use a projectile that freezes your party member forever and then octaslashing your party.
Did you even try hardmode in remake? It's literally a whole different game gameplay-wise. You can't brute-force anything and having no access to items makes MP management its own kind of hell
>It's literally a whole different game gameplay-wise.
Weiss is the only hard thing, him and me being a moron not realisng the chariot dude casted reflect and I've been healing him, Airbuster ranged phase was AIDS as well.
Afte the whole multiverse shit it is easy to know things wont end up in AC but i do like how this trilogy is contextualizing a lot of AC things. Like cloud sleeping on the church, because as we saw in rebirth's ending, it is Cloud and Aerith's spot. The fact he keeps taking photos of flower fields too.
This makes a lot of things so much clearer.
Probably because the third ending will be different and not truly end in ac. Ac works as a good setup for someone who will see Aerith's impact in Cloud's life while you play Rebirth.
>introduce Roche in Remake >OH SHIT MAYBE HE'S TIED T- >he's not >hey wouldn't it be cool if he >he doesn't >can't wait to fight this fricker again >never shows up after the first battle >immediately recognize the Nomura pattern
...aaand he's quickly dispatched in Rebirth. Boy oh boy, I love when Nomura introduces new characters only to frick off right after the cool scene he planned for them. If Rebirth was directed by Nomura, Roche would have just disappeared from the story forever. Nomura is like a kid who doesn't bother to pick up and store his toys away once he's bored of playing with them.
How did cloud get the black materia back. Also what was up with him morphing it into his sword. Will that be a new mechanic in part 3? That's not what happens when you equip materia right
Dream Date, Aerith gives the intact White Materia to Cloud, Cloud gives it to real world Aerith, Aerith gives the sucked dry transparent White Materia to Cloud, the transparent materia turns black in the ending
No, in japanese he just says "the black materia?"
kuro materia?
3 months ago
Anonymous
Yes, because it's the transparent materia Aerith gave to Cloud after Cloud gave Aerith the intact White Materia from the dream date. The twist is that the transparent materia is now black when it used to be white
3 months ago
Anonymous
Now you're just jumping to conclusion again lol
You said he commented "how did it turn black" he never said that. Now you're saying it is an obvious conclusion even if you have no proof of that.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Seems like headcanon to be fair, even the size of the materia is different.
What was the point of Aerith giving the transparent materia to Cloud if it didnt turn black in the ending and Cloud noting it? there's this thing called Chekhov's Gun for story telling that if you gonna show a gun in a scene, use it. It's the same reason Rufus shoots Junon Cannon in Rebirth, because the cannon needs to serve purpose for the story it is introduced in. The OG got away with it by having the cannon shoot at the Weapon in Disc 2, but Rebirth needed to have the cannon be used before it. Same with the transparent materia. Why have Aerith give the transparent materia to Cloud and Cloud finding and noting the black materia in the ending if it's not the transparent materia turned black
3 months ago
Anonymous
Because it will have its relevance in the third game. Remember, this is a trilogy, it is the same reason of why we dont know a lot of things about this trilogy.
The hollow materia will be Aerith's endgame.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Seems like headcanon to be fair, even the size of the materia is different.
3 months ago
Anonymous
The hollow materia will be Aerith's endgame.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>Cloud's hair looking like a yellow flower.
I kneel.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Flower materia.
The big flower will tank the meteor and turn crisp.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>anon got a different copy of rebirth
3 months ago
Anonymous
>Nope, he points it out "How did it turn black"
Theorycrafting is going so insane you're making up your own script of the game.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Why make a note of black materia being black if it isn't the clear materia having turned black? It's the very ending so of course the twist need to mean something
3 months ago
Anonymous
Yet you had to create your own lines instead of just using the ones in the game.
3 months ago
Anonymous
So it is the clear materia having turned black?
3 months ago
Anonymous
>Why make a note of black materia being black if it isn't the clear materia having turned black?
moron, black materia is the name of the materia, he isnt pointing it that it is black or it turned black
holy shit.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>Why make a note of black materia being black if it isn't the clear materia having turned black?
You're trolling at this point.
they nerfed her so badly in rebirth. i went from getting pissed when i couldnt use her in remake to getting mad i had to have her in my party in rebirth.
Yes, in the japanese ending they do not make a promise to each other because the whole point of their bond is that they dont need a promise. English version fricked up really bad.
I find funny how the theme song of rebirth is all about shitting on the concept of promises because a lot of ff7 has promises. Like the water tower promise and the zack's promise to aerith.
It is like the song shit talks them lol
I find funny how the theme song of rebirth is all about shitting on the concept of promises because a lot of ff7 has promises. Like the water tower promise and the zack's promise to aerith.
It is like the song shit talks them lol
It is cool as frick because the idea of "we dont even need to have a promise because we trust in each other" is amazing.
Yes, in the japanese ending they do not make a promise to each other because the whole point of their bond is that they dont need a promise. English version fricked up really bad.
The Clear materia became Black. It's what Sephiroth's edgelord dialogue about negative emotions from doomed timelines is all about.
He used the despair of doomed worlds to turn it Black the same way the Gi turned their White materia Black with their desire for permadeath.
he did. After the others had their trial, in the hallway that opened afterwards he had his trial. It was his memory of the first bombing mission with Sephiroth there and the bomb showing 00:00 time
I still have no clue what horrible padding people are talking about. Like the whole Costa del sol part wasn't in the original so do people consider that padding? Cause I loved it. It was just a fun section to bask in the joys of a beach resort and have a bunch of little character moments sprinkled every where. It helps that the mini games are fun and easy
Maybe the reason why cloud wasn’t making babies with Tifa in AC. No idea why they didn’t start a real family after years of babysitting other peoples kids.
>Zackbros are having the hardest time of their lives right now, which is funny because their character is ok with it.
I dont know if they will survive 4 years of this, and it will become even worse when the ultimania drops.
>I think it gets funnier and funnier as each day passes because hamaguchi said 2 days ago how loveless is about cloud and aerith.
Hamaguchi and Kitase's agenda was always very clear.
Wrong. You remember how Disc 2 and 3 in OG had new areas: Icicle Inn, snow area, North Crater, Mideel, Junon Underwater reactor and Final Dungeon. The other content was optional sunken plane and ancient forest in cosmo canyon. And revisits to places you had been before. So the part 3 would have Wutai and Rocket town. So not that much more content if you comapare the content between Remake and Rebirth. 3 years is pretty realistic expectation
Yup, I see this being late 2027. April 2020 to Feb 2024. Same console generation this time, open world is basically done cause the Bronco shows its already connected. Just probably need to figure out a better way to load areas for the Highwind plus just expand the areas and maybe rework the layout just to change it up.
This. It’s entirely their fault the ending got ruined so badly. >we must have Zack team up with kraudo to fight Sephiroth this is totally what they have been waiting for!
This is my biggest complaint about Japanese voice acting.
The Japs are so autistic about it that when a voice actor dies they go out of their way to stop using that character instead of just replacing the actor, and they'll only replace VA's if the property literally can't function without the character, or it sits on ice for a few decades with no new content.
Reno's VA dying shouldn't mean we get less Reno. Just replace him for frick's sake.
This is interesting, because for Tekken, after Heihachi’s first VA committed suicide, they had a replacement VA for him by TT2 which came out a year after his first VA’s death. Wonder why more Jap series aren’t like that.
I think the longer a person voices one character, the less likely they are to want to replace them.
For a one off appearance they probably don't care. But as soon as they become "Known" for that character, replacing them is going to be damn near impossible while they're still alive and will need a comittee to decide a course of action when they day.
Imagine the fricking meltdown at Toei when Masako dies and they finally need to replace Goku. It took them months just to replace Bulma in a detergent commercial.
She did a better job as Rosa than aerith’s VA did. Aerith and Cloud doesn’t work when they don’t go all in from the start and she doesn’t even die at the end.
Yeah I don’t know what the frick was happening with the Aerith version of loveless. Everyone sounds like they were reading from a script including cloud.
Gee anon.
Let's get literal randos with no acting experience from the crowd to act in the play, they'll totally sound professional!
Obviously they weren't supposed to sound great. The whole point is that it was just some fun little bonus participation for the audience once the play was over. The actual play was the hologram with Jessie, and presumably we didn't see the entire play and just got a musical clip notes version for the sake of time.
Who told her that?
She's just baiting Cloud's reaction to gauge his interest in her. She's clearly ovulatiing but it's just too insecure to be outright rejected if she's too direct.
Because it's meant to be a little ray of hope after the tragedy with Aerith.
And even if Aerith ends up finishing this trilogy fully alive, once Cloud regains all of memories and remembers who he is (With Tifa's help), I can't see any scenario where Aerith still willingly pursues him once the "Real" Cloud is back and it becomes obvious that his entire life's motivation is centered entierly around Tifa, and that Cloud chose to be her bodyguard long before she asked him to be hers.
You'll get a similar moment with Aerith just being happy for Cloud and her friend Tifa without a hint of jealousy, just like you got from Zack when Marlene told him Aerith liked Cloud.
Aerith is a normal person who understands that people can like other people sometimes
3 months ago
Anonymous
Aerith realizes that Cloud and Tifa are in love and that her chances of being with Cloud are dead in the water
3 months ago
Anonymous
People really forget how nojima wrote tons of stories where people had past loves. FF7,FF8 and FF10 all have characters like that. They also find new love too.
3 months ago
Anonymous
if you dont fall in love with the right person on the first try you are a cuck if you are a man
3 months ago
Anonymous
Oh wow, how ironic and hilarious
3 months ago
Anonymous
Wakka literaly married his late brother's fiancé and got her pregnant. Zack is nothing compared to that.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Did you think he was gonna let some other dude get that sweet, sweet Goth 'tang? Would you?
3 months ago
Anonymous
People forget love and loss of loved ones has been a big part of Final Fantasy for a long, LONG time.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Ever since Sakaguchi's mom burned in a housefire and he never got over it.
Not even FFV escaped from that.
3 months ago
Anonymous
that a concept Gankerirgins have difficult to understand
>Totally missed the earlier clock tower moment where Aerith is concerned over Tifa and Cloud's friendship because she is a mentally well adjusted Stacey
It's about friendship maybe improve your media literacy
I just finished up Gold Saucer and met Gus.
A few things I must ask.
1. How wet was Yuffie during the Dio intro?
2.Is Dio Mode Achievable natty?
3. How in the frick did Cloud, the character that has been getting slapped around by giant robots and monsters, get knocked out by a Black person with a bat? Why did the girls and Red just give up? No, "well they have guns" does not fricking count, I just fought two mechs with machine gun arms.
4. I refuse to believe that Tifa, Aerith, and Yuffie were not gang raped while Cloud was knocked out. This is not even a coomer thing, Cait Sith makes it very clear all kinds of horrible shit happens down there. Gus makes it clear he is not above forcing them into prostitution.
5. Why in the frick do they call it a Prison when it's no longer a area where people are sent as punishment for breaking the law at the Saucer? It's now just an abandoned area that criminals infested on their own.
>1
Flowing so hard she could've condensed her own fertility materia >2
No, Dio Mode is impossible >3
The same way he can cut through buildings one moment but not a door the next: plot >4
If they had been touched, there's no way Cloud wouldn't just go nuts on them. They were used as leverage. If you mess with Cloud's girls (esp. Tifa/Aerith), you lose all leverage with Cloud. >5
They nickname it a prison because you basically live by street rule if survival of the fittest, and are at the whim of who has control, i.e. Gus
I really like how they revealed more Cloud's jealous type, it happens a lot in rebirth. We only see it mentioned in ultimanias, like the scene where cloud gets upset at the idea of aerith having dates with another guy in remake.
I like that he started to enjoy the attention and praise after beating Dio when you get to Gold Saucer. It..."felt" good to see him stop pretending to be stoic for once.
There’s an unattainable scene in the OG FF7 where if your Affection levels with Aerith is at a ridiculous amount and you answer that one scene in Gongaga with jealousy, Aerith will tease Cloud and say that she is hoping that he was jealous, instead of just saying sorry for asking if he’s jealous.
The original did have the 'jealous, envious' dialogue in Gongaga
Yes rebirth took those scenes and enhanced them a lot more, also spread them everywhere. I think cloud is jealous about aerith around 3-4 times in rebirth and she asks him about it at least 2 times.
The original did have the 'jealous, envious' dialogue in Gongaga
These small details are a good example of how the devs understand these characters, instead of just remaking the lines, they really integrated the jealous behavior into Cloud.
Cloud isn't torn between Aerith and Tifa. He's torn between his current fake persona and his true self. That is the real twist of FF7 and what makes the Aerith and Tifa dynamics and the Sephiroth/Zack/Jenova influence on Cloud so interesting.
No, 7 is popular because it was Trojan housed. This was in the 90s, before a game came out the only thing most people knew about it was from ads.The FF7 western marketing team went out of the way to hide it was a turn based RPG. It was also for the time, the most impressive thing ever to come out of a video game console to our collective 10 year old minds.
There is a frickton of games with massive budget,investment and quality that are forgotten 3 months later. FF7 is remembered for 27 years for different reasons.
I like how obviously not okay Cloud is like constantly, and they keep giving him the benefit of the doubt when he's been swinging at Black Robe guys since the first night in Midgar
He will correct Yuffie in part 3.
No he fricking won't.
If anything he's going to make a comment asking "Where'd that delicious little pink one run off too?" or something and Tifa and Yuffie are going to beat the shit out of him.
reddit fantasy 7: redditbirth
Rufus playable for part 3 please, I'm in LOVE with him
Scene stealer
I was so fricking mad when Yuffie ruined the timeline where Rufus could possibly join the team
Why and how?
NTA but he is refering to the scene in Junon where Rufus first says he gonna let Cloud and gang do their thing as logn as they don't get in Shinra's way but then Yuffie does the assasination attempt and Rufus thinks Cloud and the gang were in it
Aerith:
>i want/wanted zack's wiener
Yuffie
>i want/wanted zack's wiener
Nojima fricking loves Zack.
Tifa
>Hey do you know any blonde guys in Soldier? You know. Just curious.
>tifa: i don't even know you and was written in as a new love interest after they decided to kill aeris in the original game pre-1997 lol
Such an inorganic BECAUSE IT WAS WRITTEN character is the subject of the biggest shipping campaign of all time. It's hilarious.
Anon the original FFVII drafts also had shit like Aerith and Sephiroth being siblings, then lovers.
It had shit like Aerith actually whoring her way up the ranks of the Honey Bee for Corneo's attention, then that morphing into Tifa.
It had shit like killing off most of the party on the return to Midgar. Sorceress Edea was designed for FFVII and wasn't even used until FFVIII.
All that matters is the what's present in the final product. Every video game, book and movie you've ever enjoyed had gone through countless revisions and changes in the early draft processes and they've all had ideas throw out the window that you'd never see.
Your arguement is disingenuous, and by your own logic the Aerith from the original first drafts is likely so radically different than what we got, she wasn't the Aerith you know. Same with everyone else.
Uh-oh, someone got hurt by the truth. This was a late-ish change in development, hence how heavily the game pushes Aeris as the love interest and you get shit like her and Cloud being "perfect for each other."
>entire schizo argument hinges on OG FF7 being only canon and compilation being not canon
>now even OG FF7 is not canon enough
No wonder Clerithsisters are mostly troons. Being mentally ill is a feature.
>OOOO my drafts
Clerithsisters...your meds...
You mean objectivitysistes, shipgay. God, you're pathetic.
>NOOOO I CANNOT ACCEPT OBJECTIVE REALITY REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
That's what you sound like.
actually mind broken over who fictional characters date
>Timejannies didn't stop Cloud from kissing Tifa
>Timejannies stopped Tifa from dying
>Timejannies stopped Cloud from saving Aerith
Aerithbros...
it's not fair...
Because the time jannies know
>Aerith is necessary to save the planet.
>Cloud is necessary to stop Sephiroth.
>Tifa is necessary to save Cloid.
>Aerith, the last time you inspiried anyone was when you were dead
>inspired
She saves the planet with Holy in the original. Avalanche would've chased Sephiroth regardless.
It's a reference that went over your head. No need to fret about it.
>Aerithbros...
Hey don't drag me into Clerith hellhole I just like Aerith.
>Timejannies are just CloTigays boomers
Now you're just mashing it.
>just reached chapter 12
jesus fricking christ I wasn't expecting that
I don't think I'll be able to finish this game
for good or bad reasons?
both
I'm happy that there's so much to do but I'm burnt out playing as much as I have that I don't really want to do it for now and I might just go straight for the story clear
>reached chapter 8
>42 hrs of gameplay
jesus frick
I still have a shit ton to do
I am leaving this fricking site until I finish Rebith because I am going to beat some of you morons to death otherwise.
damn brat, and you know what happens to brats.
I'm worried about part 3, I'm looking forward to the party dealing with Cloud being mental and the Shinra Wutai war but I think they're gonna frick it up.
expect way more homoerotic scenes between the two
Yeah same, but I can't wait till cloud loses his edginess. My least favorite character by far. Even caith Sid is OK now.
>just beat reno and rude at temple of the ancients
>HAVE TO FRICKING SWITCH PARTIES AGAIN
just kill me
one thing I really like about remake is that yuffie being mandatory means she gets to have a lot more interactions with the group. lots of great bants in the cloud/barret/yuffie party I always ran in the OG game
i always ran yuffie n cid because of the dumb shit they say but yuffie is an annoying tard in the new games
yuffie was always a dumb teenager, its just easier to tell because she has more lines and has voice acting now. if you have her around when barret is going into how he lost all his family and friends to shinra burning down corel when they promised them a better life then working in a coal mine - while everyone else is shocked at what happened, yuffie says she won't sympathize because obviously you would never trust shinra because she's a dumbass teenager that can't empathize
she doesn't ask like a teenager in remake/rebirth
she acts like a fricking 8yo moron with adhd
and then in Rebirth she's the party member that sympathizes wirh Barret the most during that scene
How the frick do you go from how barebones remake was to this? this shit is fricking endless and everything has its own banger track and is meaningful in some way
I liked Remake a lot but it kind of is a glorified prologue. A very elaborate, well produced prologue.
I'm not even talking about stretching a short part of the game; I'm talking about how many layers rebirth has and how much it does when it doesn't even need to. You turn around a corner and you have a fully fleshed out minigame that makes everyone in the party interact and has a fricking banger of a song that you may only maybe hear once
Compare that to the mechanical hand and all those empty hallways in part 1. Come on, you can't tell me they didn't have enough time to put a bit more effort on that
I guess Remake had to establish the basics in terms of working out the combat system and everyones movesets and whatnot. It still had some neat stuff like the bike section or that Moulin Rouge musical section at the Honey Bee Inn. There was still a lot more variety and elheart in it than in something like FF XVI for example.
i mean being better than xvi isn't a high bar that game didn't even had a full move set for clive and he was the only playable character.
Actually this was explained.
Majority of Remakes development was essentially creating the base for all 3 titles. From art style, to design, story, mechanics, etc. In an interview they stated that after Remake development time would speed up significantly between releases. So I imagine the final game will be out in 2-3 years. Rebirth was delayed and still released in like 3 years?
Part 3 for the 30th anniversary of the OG would be cool.
Remake release was April 2020
Rebirth was Feb 29th, 2024 so a little less than 4 years
I wouldn't be surprised considering with the tiny bronco reveal that the map is fully connected, that we get part 3 in 2027 albeit late in the year.
Except that they didnt design Rebirth with the airship in mind so now theyll have to redo parts of the world for the airship
It's not like Gongaga or Nibelhiem are gonna need to be revisted in part 3 though
But the whole world should be able to be revisited if you have an airship.
That's your opinion and am I glad you are not a game dev
So are you saying there will be no flying at all in part 3 and that it will just be a menu? Because the devs said the opposite.
I don't know, i haven't played part 3 yet and I'm not a dev, As a player, if they gonna add flying in the world map, it needs to serve an actual purpose other than "Well, now we are flying over the map"
2020 and 2024 are 4 years apart bro. It shouldn't have taken them 4 years to do Rebirth after all that "prep time" with Remake.
The game is huge
Anon I don't think you understand how much shit is in this game. I'm not even talking about environments or how big the map is and shit; I'm talking about how much budget went into VA (for protagonists and even side npcs), all the 300 songs, all the animations, cutscenes, scripted events. I wouldn't bat an eye if it was a linear, 20 hour game but this shit is humongous
this game is very long it took me 75 hours to complete and i only did the main story plus the world intel/side quests. i don't want to imagine how long a completionist run would be.
not having open world shit means barebones?
Remake is better
>yuffie is an annoying tard in the new games
homosexual
She gives that exact speech 4 times across her dlc and rebirth
it's true
she acts like a fricking spastic child
how do not get tired switching out materia all the time?
Buy more so you don't have to.
but i dont want to be poor...
Then keep swapping materia.
Why are you swapping materia? The game gives you 7 auto casts, 6 restores, at least two of every element, and an assortment of those auto-ability ones. You should have enough materia to have every character prepared for combat at all times.
Where's Scarlet with her 9" strapon in Rebirth
Do all Sephiroth clones magically gain a number and a black robe?
Yes. This was explained in Chapter 14 where I frick you in the ass because you read all of this shitpost.
The robe yes, but I thought hojo put the numbers on them? Which is what we saw him do to red, and why cloud begs him for a number.
For me its the battle remix
just finished the game. They fricking killed aerith again. What the frick man. I thought the whole point was to keep her alive
"Killed."
Yes?
Yes, just like how Zack and Biggs "died."
Yeah those guys died too, very astute
Yeah. "Died."
Yes, they died. Correct.
Damn hard mode doesn't give you mp at rest spots, how the heck do you get your mp back
#1 downloaded game in japan for February
https://blog.ja.playstation.com/2024/03/11/20240311-downloadranking/
i rewatched the remake clerith scenes and its clear the devs put effort in make then look like a couple, and its quite weird how relaxed cloud is around her from the get go, he always had a soft spot for her but ofc some of it in this current timeline is because of time travel bs that happens in remake, that usual cloud stiffness is not a thing when hes around aerith, thats clearly intensional by the devs.
if you pick aerith it get obvious how the devs wrote them as a couple, maybe they keep their relationship as a tragic one but its clear that the next game will have more clerith content.
>Cait Sith comes with Magnify
BEST BOY
>was invested in the whole mystery of whether they were going to kill off Aerith again or someone else this time
>got spoiled a week before release by a picture of Cloud putting Aerith in the water like in the original
>had a worse time with it because I knew Aerith was going to die instead of wondering what was going to happen
>eventually reach the end of the game after 50 long bloated hours
>the picture I saw was fricking fake, the water scene isn't even in the fricking game
>it still ruined my experience because it made me certain that Aerith would die and she did
I'm so fricking mad right now
There's nothing left for part 3......
Wheelchair Cloud minigames. He has to fight a Sephiroth vision while rolling around in his wheelchair. He can only stand up after beating him.
Part 3 been leaked already I see.
>cloud rolls up to a flight of stairs
>one winged angel starts playing and sephiroth appears at the top
Leaked render from Part 3
Part 3: cloud has ghost sex with aerith in the life stream
Why can cloud see the weird thing I'm the sky but others can't. What the frick is going on
Because he has experienced the alt world
Do enemies in Rebirth have way more unblockable attacks than in Remake? Feels like my AI controlled characters are getting absolutely decimated in battles sometimes.
Yeah for sure. My one request for part 3 is that they tighten up the dodging and blocking windows because a lot of the time I find myself getting Dark Souls by an unblockable attack that I dodged several frames before
Why can't the next mainline use this combat system. It's so great
You're getting 3 games with that system. Allow the series to have some variety.
What do you mean allow? I'm not making the games lololol
I'm curious how they're going to do Cid, they need to do something special if he's going to be party lead for a 1/3rd of the game
TIME JANNIES
INCREASE THE SALES, QUICK!!!!!
FIX THE TIMELINE!!!!!!
New Merc in Town has been stuck in my head
My beautiful wife Aerith
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Kino persona-lite
winning
Why did the gang get so angry when cloud wanted to kill elena? You know, someone who tried to kill the gang for the entire game? An enemy like everyone else in the game?
You know American History X when he makes the Black person bite the curb? Kinda like that.
good guys dont kill doods (in cutscenes)
Yeah, it's not what good guys do. Elena was already down and defeated. It would be null and evil. Same with how the laws of wars forbid killing surrendering soldiers and POWs. Of course it happens but there's a reason you don't show off killing prisoners because it kinda paints you in bad light.
Because killing is badong. Also Elena is unironically the best girl in the game.
because despite cloud having a sword bigger than himself he obviously doesn't kill anyone based on everyone's reactions to dyne killing a handful of people
This too, defeating someone in battle doesn't mean you outright kill them, they are just "defeated". Same with how most enemy grunts you fight against have their faces masked so you don't see them as individual people but just mass of enemy forces. While dramatic battles have you fighting an actual character, like compare fighting Shinra grunts vs fighting Turk characters
you wanted them to cheer him on as he was going to behead her?
It may not look like it in gameplay, but avalanche doesn't actually kill anyone, just "defeats" them. So when cloud starts losing control and murdering people in cold blood, they know it's not him acting himself. And they don't want him to fall into a dark void.
They were supposed to keep her alive as a sex slave. They mentioned this multiple times.
finishing up chapter 9, currently on proto relic shinra facility training mission 2. enjoying the gameplay but feel burned out.. need to break from the game for a couple of days.
All the Protorelic quests are such fricking dogshit, first the Fort Condor shit and then the bs Cactuar minigame in Corel.
Fort Condor was fine
in intergrade yeah but it sucks in rebirth
I didn't mind it at all personally. Just follow the simple rock, paper, scissors structure and use heroes at the right moment.
I'm getting filtered hard on the Cosmo Canyon Protorelic. FRICK that minigame.
Do the ones the game makes for you, it makes it much easier.
spam low cost units that have missiles
>save it, ive had a pretty shit day
>What a coincidence, so have i
Kino
I remember the dialogue but who were the characters and when?
Cloud and Vincent
OK I finished the game. I loved the game but I feel a little conflicted, it missed a lot of the mood from the og. Case in point cosmo canyon. It just felt off. Or it was doing its own thing.
Cosmo Canyon felt too much like a tourist trap, and the whole game i too modern in fashion sense outside the main cast. And I'm not sure that feelings forum thing really fit either.
Feelings forum????.
The seminar place
Its cause more of the OG was like a handful of screens. You just start at the doorstep of Cosmo Canyon and go in, its a small area, and then you go into the fairly short caves with the Gi and Seto. Expanding the main-story section to like 2-3 hours will make the mood feel off.
I feel like fort condor doesnt work due to the time limit
>R2
>L2
>R2+L2
oh frick off with this shit
As silly as it is, I like when games aren't movies and let you interact the cutscenes. Rebirth does it a lot and I appreciate it for it
I'm having a lot of trouble navigating the Gongaga region,
Been hearing that from a lot of people.
Gongaga kinda sucks, but you can see the mushrooms on the map if you zoom in. I can't remember, but was the Chocobo mandatory to get? Definitely need one to get around.
how do you typically explore in these zones? if you're going by checklist from the towers you're doing it wrong unironically because you'll be lost trying to figure out how to beeline from point A to B let alone trying to figure out how to get to some of the towers.
the way I did it was I would pick a trail and follow it and then if it branched off I would follow the branch and then double back after I was done. you'll be finding points that you can fast travel back to if you're too far gone so if you're ever in the situation where you have multiple mushroom jumps you won't feel that fricked.
It's not that hard
Fastest way to farm SP? I’d like everyone to have L3 limit breaks before going to the temple of ancients, but frick me most of the side content is boring
>selfie with aerith
Cute and soul
Probably my favorite sidequest in the game because it ties with Cloud's photos in AC. People always said he was taking photos of flower fields because of aerith and they werent wrong.
How do I get an aerith gf
Be a likable person and put yourself out there
Uhm what does this mean? Part 3 when the meteor arrive or something else?
She knows.
If we don't revive her in part three I will smash my ps5
Future-self end up behaving like a different character Something is definitely wrong with this Aerith.
That sector 5 date is just aerith knowing those will be their last moments and trying to spend the most time she can with Cloud. I dont know if it is exactly og Aerith, but clearly a version of her that knows those will be their last moments together.
I think it is future Aerith and she makes sure the essence of Holy comes back to her former self.
Most likely Sephiroth took away those memories with his jannies. It's a chess match between lifestream Sephiroth and Aerith.
For now Sephiroth 1 - 0 Aerith.
Aerith is sort of in the limbo state and the time jannies are obstructing her next move.
I don't know, maybe 1 - 1. She did come to assist beating his ass in the edge of creation this time and he flies smirking off like a loser.
They really should have saved that fight in part 3.
I accept that she still lives, but immediately kicking Seph's ass after her fake death really devalues the mood.
I think it's bad for Sephiroth too now that we have been kicking his one winged ass twice.
She did die. That's lifestream Aerith.
Yeah I know, I mean, it screams to the audience "We are doing multiverse where we can pull anyone unto the stage" when they can at least be more subtle about it.
I swear if they pull that multiple dimension hole and call out "Avalanche assemble nonsense" in part 3. I will definitely flip the table.
True. But they could still go off in a different direction with it. I think many, myself included, kind of half expected her to just flat out live at the end of this but they did something different with it altogether.
Though Kitase's wishes for the happy end for his characters after 30 years makes me question how tragic they'll let the end really be.
I see.
Unironically what i want to see in part 3 the most. Their reunion, it is something they keep teasing for 27 years
It is destined to happen at this point.
The whole context around aerith's death is different in this trilogy. In the og was a tragedy and an accident, now we have a whole plotline of she dies everytime and is a constant in that universe.
I dont know what to feel about it, it adds to the tragedy but it also makes me want to change her face because that's just too shit for her, she doesnt deserves it.
I've been contemplating on that too, and my current thinking (it can change ofc) is that if she dies again in Rebirth like in the original, it won't have affected you the way the og did back when you first play it. Old players would just feel "ah shit here we go again" and then forget it in a week. There will be a ton of references and memorials for her in part 3 and probably a final posthumous battle but that won't make you feel anymore than you having been spoiled. It's different context and time.
Although for new players who only plays the Remake, they got robbed hard of that big moment.
>I've been contemplating on that too, and my current thinking (it can change ofc) is that if she dies again in Rebirth like in the original, it won't have affected you the way the og did back when you first play it.
I think it would have had more of an effect on me if it was the same as the original than whatever this clusterfrick is. But Remake with Aerith knowing more than she should and whatever made me lose interest in the character so I didn't really care when she died.
I think Aerith knowing her future and fate is an interesting thing because it adds to her tragedy and relationship with Cloud. Every interaction she had with him had 10 different layers hidden beneath. What i dont like a lot is having fricking fate trying to kill her because her death is mandatory.
In general the whole meaning and impact of her death just are not the same because he have fate and jannies wanting her death, it loses the meaning of her death. As people say, it is just Final Destination: Aerith now. And if that is the story they want to tell i would rather have us saving her in the third game.
I theorized they thought of making the scene one to one like the original, but because the original is so iconic and everyone knows it, it wouldn't be surprising or have the same feeling as the original, so they didn't outright show it and put more emphasis on the overall story they did want to tell.
That's why so many people can watch the rebirth version and still understand what happened, because her death is so iconic and engraved in gaming culture. Her death became expected so they gave you the unexpected to not give you the same feelings but something similar.
I think she's just being quirky
Aerith is quirky, but just like the og she is also aware that something bad will happen to her. Even RedXIII knows it.
She wasn't aware of anything in the og. She was in Remake though.
No worries. When something bad happen to her, call forth the chair Aerith.
Marlene seems to know too which is weird and unexplained.
she gives her the vision when she picks her up during plate fall, tbd why
It isnt just a vision, she sends a lot of stuff to marlene, even her feelings. Which is also interesting because it shows that Aerith loved Cloud even in midgar. Probably because she already knew him.
>It isnt just a vision, she sends a lot of stuff to marlene, even her feelings. Which is also interesting because it shows that Aerith loved Cloud even in midgar. Probably because she already knew him.
I dont know if she already loved him a lot, but toriyama says how her words "you cant fall in love with me" are also directed at herself. So she probably knows she will fall in love with Cloud but was trying to keep her distance because she knew her fate.
Makes sense, it is a tragedy she can see it coming but cant do much. The tragedy in this case would be them falling in love with each other.
It's implied she does. Giving the yellow flower to 'reunite lovers'. That's why I still think it could be a time loop or spiral.
Her mom has Ifalna-ish features though.
b***h looks like tseng
why did sephiroth lick cloud's ear?
or was it actually jenova?
tf is her problem?
Rude is the most handsome man by far
There's a Barry in the game, do they know...?
So he’s a furry, right?
Literally the chaddest face in the entire game.
>Literally gets paid to roleplay
100%. He's also living the dream.
>gets paid to roleplay as his fursona
>plays the double agent to be able to take down Shinra and save the planet thus saving face while keeping his profits
>takes over the assets of Shinra and ends up forming the clean energy equivalent of Shinra thus probably becoming one of the richest men in the planet
Was Reeve the smartest guy in the whole game?
>takes over the assets of Shinra
That doesn't happen, rather Shinra is still around and DoC implies very heavily that Rufus is bankrolling the WRO.
I always took it as the WRO essentially just seizing the assets of Shinra thus essentially being Shinra in all but name. Does this mean Reeve is still loyal to Rufus? Does any of this still matter in a post Compilation world?
>I always took it as the WRO essentially just seizing the assets of Shinra thus essentially being Shinra in all but name.
You can assume that, it would make sense, but Shinra does still exist but what assets they kept/loss after Meteorfall is never addressed.
>Does this mean Reeve is still loyal to Rufus?
Nah Rufus is just a sponsor and probably has no intentions of getting involved. AC was supposed to establish him as generally remorseful for Shinra's misdeeds (though the movie doesn't do the best job of showing that imo.)
>Does any of this still matter in a post Compilation world?
Nope.
I just realised he has lancers hair
Sup! Barry here!
I knew Rebirth would flop, just wanna take this chance to laugh at you ff7r losers. Guzzle my cum lmfao
>only 3 chadley challenges left for platinum
>all three are 5-10 round endurance super boss aoe spam cancer fights with the hidden super boss as well
I think I've had my fun with the game now.
Why didn't she tell cloud what was gonna happen lol. Like....cloud please put the steadfast block materia on me
Because in the OG Aerith saves the world by controlling Lifestream from the dead and routing the Life Stream to absorb the impact from Meteor. If she doesn't die, the world is doomed. That's why Sephiroth tried to make Aerith's White Materia null in Rebirth
she needs to die or sephiroth wins
>Girlboss good when it's the game I like
she is not a girlboss though
Red XIII threatens to bite them off
Why is cloud so chipper after her death. He barely looks upset
Didint you play the game? He thinks she's alive. Everyone else saw her die while Cloud is in denial and sees and hears Aerith
To me that makes it sadder than the original.
he is in full schizo mode that is why tifa doesn't talk to him and barrett tells him they "trust" on his soldier intuition
Now cloud is free to plow tifa
We know the holy materia is filled with memories, so i wonder if Aerith gave it to Cloud because she will help him get his original self back by inserting his memories in it.
Maybe the date was to fill that white materia of memories
Nah, it had an actual objective, that was to have Aerith giving him the white materia, and using the opportunity to spend her last moments with him. But the part where we'll fill it with something is only in part 3.
In the dream date Aerith gave Cloud the intact White Materia that wasn't sucked dry by Whispers. Cloud then gives it to the real world Aerith who in return gives Cloud the empty materia.
She gives it to Cloud because she knows her Holy is empty in the main world. Cloud then hands it to Aerith in the forest, gets the essence of Holy back and gives the hollow orb back to Cloud. You can see the Holy materia that falls in the water is whole again.
I know, i was talking exactly about the objective of the hollow one. Aerith isnt the type of character that would care about coming back, so that is definitely a mechanism to help Cloud. If we save Aerith in part 3, it will be because of Cloud and Zack's actions.
Unless this hollow materia is to fill up with new memories, that might call forth some unexpected stuff during the meteor crashing outcome or some other stuff. Like trapping Sephiroth inside the hollow materia lol
It already was filled with new memories. It turned black in the ending
>Like trapping Sephiroth inside the hollow materia lol
It would be kinda funny, but not really weird considering the nature of ff7's world. But i really think it is probably related to Cloud, in the same way Aerith was "complete" when she had holy, that thing will probably help Cloud get his memories back. Sephiroth cant really be imprisoned because the core of his existence isnt even himself, but Cloud, at any point in time where he remembers him.
I'm starting to think Sephiroth actually thinks of Cloud as more than just a puppet. Like some creepy "Miquela is mine and mine alone" vibe. Like Sephiroth HAS the black materia then drops it just to tell Cloud to give it him again.
In the OG Sephiroth/Jenova was so invested in Cloud because 16 yo grunt Cloud bested Sephiroth and threw Sephiroth in the mako pit and they then used Cloud as a tool to retrieve the black materia and bring it to Sephiroth in North Crater. You were never actually chasing Sephiroth. You were led by him/Jenova
For real they should add a Mr. X section with Sephiroth for part 3
Part 3 has Sephiroth take over Cloud and Zack has to fight him to snap him out of it leading to Zack's death screencap this.
in part 3 he will see visions of aerith but this time its jenova larping as her
All these schizos actually taking demakes fanfic seriously
You are wasting time discussing a game you didn't even play which makes you even sadder
They really pushed the cloud delusion from nibelheim but they didn't conclude it
The delusion hits it's peak in the northren crater
Part 3: reunion will bring aerith back.
Reunion name was wasted on cc remake
Noooooooooo
isn't the 3rd game called journey's end?, i like that more than reunion
For real WTF were they thinking
There really is no better choice for the final title, wouldn't care if they use it again, screw CC.
part 3 will be called resurrection
Reunion was already used in chapter 14.
Part 3 return
Part 3: Revengence.
I cannot WAIT to hold down l2 and r2 to cast holy.
I'm sorry your thread died
Its just a joke bro I'm serious
Remake
Rebirth
Rewrite
You Make this.
Now you give Birth to this.
Maybe I should have reWrite this.
I haven't had this much fun with a game in a while. Very excited for part 3. however. They removed the spooky face from the cavern of the gi. So it's 0/10 for me
I think it was still there at the very end
Part 3: Recompilation.
You'll be forced to play every ff7 compilation game but remade
Thats called ever crisis
Part 3 final boss leaked
You been posting this for several days now. I'm sorry your thread died
>WEEE WILL NOT LEAVE UNTILL WE GET THE BLACK MATERIAAAAAAA
Holy fricking mother of cringe
Remake
Rebirth
Requiem
Rebuild: Advent Children (Epilogue)
Final Fantasy 7: advent morons
I really dislike the fact Advent Children is still the endgame for this.
You are lucky then, its not advent Children, its Dirge of Cerberus
AC is shit, pisses on Cloud's mind getting fixed and the relationship building between him and Tifa and ignores the rest of the party completely.
AC would have worked better as a game I think.
AC dlc for part 3 would be cool, it should start with Tifa riding Cloud and then Sephiroth slowly appears from behind her "Good Cloud, very good".
It wouldn't even be ooc for Sephiroth
I don't mind AC
Now, DoC..
DoC into remaster.
I need playable cid, they're going to make his story so epic and the music.....will go hard
>RETRY FROM BEFORE CURRENT BATTLE
>RETRY FROM THIS BATTLE
>hmm I guess I should pick the second one, it sounds right
>UHHH ACKSHULLY FRICK YOU REDO THE WHOLE FRICK
who the frick designed the options like that
Fricking hated this. Had to redo the whole final boss fight.
I had to as well but because aerith didn't have any materia and I couldn't beat the sephie fight
wasn't there a hold square button option during the cutscene to change equipment
Not before the final battle, maybe there was one in in prior one
>source: I died to sephie like 10 times
There is one when Zack appears to help Cloud, but only then
Same, its fricking bizarre wording
>RETRY SEPHIROTH FIGHT
>RETRY ENTIRE FINAL BATTLE
done, fixed
Welp the secret boss is a virtual sephiroth whos big play is to use a projectile that freezes your party member forever and then octaslashing your party.
don't spend all your atb charges use magnify barier, pray after octaslash
do not have a single moment barrier is not active
kino I want hard mode to be actually be hard not like remake where it's barely different.
Did you even try hardmode in remake? It's literally a whole different game gameplay-wise. You can't brute-force anything and having no access to items makes MP management its own kind of hell
>It's literally a whole different game gameplay-wise.
Weiss is the only hard thing, him and me being a moron not realisng the chariot dude casted reflect and I've been healing him, Airbuster ranged phase was AIDS as well.
I think part 3 should have meteor time limit on the overworld.
>Meteor time limit.
This is going to be annoying part of the game.
>we want the Ocarina of Time boomer audience
imagine the raging tendies
Afte the whole multiverse shit it is easy to know things wont end up in AC but i do like how this trilogy is contextualizing a lot of AC things. Like cloud sleeping on the church, because as we saw in rebirth's ending, it is Cloud and Aerith's spot. The fact he keeps taking photos of flower fields too.
This makes a lot of things so much clearer.
Cloud's obsession with the church works so much better now.
That's why they wanted everyone watching AC before playing rebirth.
Wouldn't it make more sense to watch it after?
AC leads into the remake trilogy
What about Dirge of Cerberus?
we don't talk about dirge of cerberus
Nero and Weiss are a thing so you can expect Vincent's e-girl gf to show up too at some point
You will apologize to dirgechads when they announce the remake
Probably because the third ending will be different and not truly end in ac. Ac works as a good setup for someone who will see Aerith's impact in Cloud's life while you play Rebirth.
I thought ac killed squaresoft
Spirits Within killed Squaresoft, AC was made by Square Enix.
>introduce Roche in Remake
>OH SHIT MAYBE HE'S TIED T-
>he's not
>hey wouldn't it be cool if he
>he doesn't
>can't wait to fight this fricker again
>never shows up after the first battle
>immediately recognize the Nomura pattern
...aaand he's quickly dispatched in Rebirth. Boy oh boy, I love when Nomura introduces new characters only to frick off right after the cool scene he planned for them. If Rebirth was directed by Nomura, Roche would have just disappeared from the story forever. Nomura is like a kid who doesn't bother to pick up and store his toys away once he's bored of playing with them.
roche has two purposes to his character
add a fun rival
show soldier cell degradation
>show soldier cell degradation
He only became a black robe after hojo fricked him up though
was roche popular in japan?
maybe they just decided to cut him
How did they cut him if his role in rebirth is even bigger than remake's? And he's still in the game even if just as a sephiroth clone.
They were just testing combat for the upcoming ac remake
Anon everyone theorized he was gonna die to degradation in a last battle with cloud
So, why does aerith care so much about tseng getting stabbed when he was literally beating her up just seconds ago in the bossfight?
Tseng was always nice to her or something
You remember how in OG Aerith was sad that Tseng got stabbed in Temple of Ancients?
woman moment, you wouldn't understand
I don't remember, but did Tseng slap Aerith at the pillar like in the original?
tseng being her secret service guard was the reason aerith was allowed to lead a relatively free life with elmyra
>Zack quick charge
I must be fricking dumb because this feels so inconsistent. Its like a worse version of Nero's quick charge
How did cloud get the black materia back. Also what was up with him morphing it into his sword. Will that be a new mechanic in part 3? That's not what happens when you equip materia right
>Also what was up with him morphing it into his sword.
YEAH wtf? Does that mean that I can't change Cloud's weapon now?
just a precursor to cloud slotting holy in the buster sword in part 3 where he will do Holy omnislash
Play the game. It's already discussed in the thread
I did play the game and I will not scroll up
Dream Date, Aerith gives the intact White Materia to Cloud, Cloud gives it to real world Aerith, Aerith gives the sucked dry transparent White Materia to Cloud, the transparent materia turns black in the ending
The only part you got wrong is the ending, Cloud finds the black materia in his pocket, they are different things
Nope, he points it out "How did it turn black"
No, in japanese he just says "the black materia?"
kuro materia?
Yes, because it's the transparent materia Aerith gave to Cloud after Cloud gave Aerith the intact White Materia from the dream date. The twist is that the transparent materia is now black when it used to be white
Now you're just jumping to conclusion again lol
You said he commented "how did it turn black" he never said that. Now you're saying it is an obvious conclusion even if you have no proof of that.
What was the point of Aerith giving the transparent materia to Cloud if it didnt turn black in the ending and Cloud noting it? there's this thing called Chekhov's Gun for story telling that if you gonna show a gun in a scene, use it. It's the same reason Rufus shoots Junon Cannon in Rebirth, because the cannon needs to serve purpose for the story it is introduced in. The OG got away with it by having the cannon shoot at the Weapon in Disc 2, but Rebirth needed to have the cannon be used before it. Same with the transparent materia. Why have Aerith give the transparent materia to Cloud and Cloud finding and noting the black materia in the ending if it's not the transparent materia turned black
Because it will have its relevance in the third game. Remember, this is a trilogy, it is the same reason of why we dont know a lot of things about this trilogy.
Seems like headcanon to be fair, even the size of the materia is different.
The hollow materia will be Aerith's endgame.
>Cloud's hair looking like a yellow flower.
I kneel.
Flower materia.
The big flower will tank the meteor and turn crisp.
>anon got a different copy of rebirth
>Nope, he points it out "How did it turn black"
Theorycrafting is going so insane you're making up your own script of the game.
Why make a note of black materia being black if it isn't the clear materia having turned black? It's the very ending so of course the twist need to mean something
Yet you had to create your own lines instead of just using the ones in the game.
So it is the clear materia having turned black?
>Why make a note of black materia being black if it isn't the clear materia having turned black?
moron, black materia is the name of the materia, he isnt pointing it that it is black or it turned black
holy shit.
>Why make a note of black materia being black if it isn't the clear materia having turned black?
You're trolling at this point.
Also wouldnt make sense because why Aerith would give Cloud something that Sephiroth would corrupt.
i like creepy cloud
me too, they made him like sephiroth
The synergy system was pretty cool. The magic blade thing cloud could do with aerith was busted
What is up with all the NTR bait in Rebirth?!
"My name is Gus, I will lock your waifus in a cage with my henchmen, now go make me some money twink boy."
>Barret and Tifa constantly left alone together
>Yuffie lusting for every guy
>Aerith is a lesbo now.
The only thing they deconfirmed was Tifa X Johnny.
You are mentally ill
?????
CHRIST ON A BIKE AERITH IS ANNOYING
>does she have feelings for Cloud
HAHAHAHAHA ZACK THE KEK
I can't not use aerith in my party it just feels wrong man
they nerfed her so badly in rebirth. i went from getting pissed when i couldnt use her in remake to getting mad i had to have her in my party in rebirth.
you need to manually unnerf her by giving accesories and using first strike to have her start with a full atb bar then always open with radiant ward
Isn't she like exactly the same, she even got a buff with the fleeting familiar
what a gay description
>I will frick up Sephiroth.
>You promise? 😀
>Promise. 🙂
>NO PROMISES AWAIT
Does the japanese ending make more sense?
Yes, in the japanese ending they do not make a promise to each other because the whole point of their bond is that they dont need a promise. English version fricked up really bad.
I find funny how the theme song of rebirth is all about shitting on the concept of promises because a lot of ff7 has promises. Like the water tower promise and the zack's promise to aerith.
It is like the song shit talks them lol
>game focus on breaking promises
>now it's ok for SE and Nomura to break promise about the next game being satisfactory
I KNEEL!
>game focus on breaking promises
I know you wanted to make a joke but starting with this one is kinda bad.
It is cool as frick because the idea of "we dont even need to have a promise because we trust in each other" is amazing.
That makes more sense. I thought the lines and then proceeding text and song were kind of odd together.
they're both fricking stupid
>remake's ending is bad
>rebirth's is even worse
hoo boy the third game is gonna be a hoot
Am I missing out on any good items by skipping queens blood?
The Clear materia became Black. It's what Sephiroth's edgelord dialogue about negative emotions from doomed timelines is all about.
He used the despair of doomed worlds to turn it Black the same way the Gi turned their White materia Black with their desire for permadeath.
Why did Square Enix quadruple down on all the compilation shit?
It fricking ruined FF7.
Are FF7remake and rebirth considered ff7compilation fanfic?
Post saucer date
The clear materia and black one are different. This is very obvious.
It's very obvious that the clear materia turned black at the ending
Explain how then, because all evidence points to the contrary.
Explain how what. Just use your eyes lol
Explain how there suddenly is a second Black Materia in Cloud's pocket.
Magic
For the same reason no one can explain where the whole final bossfight happens.
At the edge of creation
Now explain it.
Explain what?
Yes, the idiot who says otherwise should be ignored. Cloud literally takes the black materia out of the other pocket he puts the clear one into.
KYAAAAAAAAAA *faints*
the ending turned rebirth from a 9 to a 7
Why didn't cloud have a trial in the ancient temple?
he has no memories to make one
he did. After the others had their trial, in the hallway that opened afterwards he had his trial. It was his memory of the first bombing mission with Sephiroth there and the bomb showing 00:00 time
>no IP count
Holy fricking grim. How bad of a flop is this that SE had to pay to remove post count?
Says 57 for me.
More like pajeet tendies constantly bumping their shitty porn threads with 10 ips only lmao
I still have no clue what horrible padding people are talking about. Like the whole Costa del sol part wasn't in the original so do people consider that padding? Cause I loved it. It was just a fun section to bask in the joys of a beach resort and have a bunch of little character moments sprinkled every where. It helps that the mini games are fun and easy
People are too old and want to complain
>wtf why doesn't the gayme tell me where the final bossfight happens
You serious bro
Reply directly, dont act like passive agressive ex-wife. That's b***h behavior.
Where did the the OG Safer Sephiroth fight take place? it was just some dimension with purple and pink clouds
thats inside's Minervas pussy
I need cloud going prime mode on that aerithussy in part 3.
Maybe the reason why cloud wasn’t making babies with Tifa in AC. No idea why they didn’t start a real family after years of babysitting other peoples kids.
Zackbros.....we weren't there....
Zackbros are having the hardest time of their lives right now, which is funny because their character is ok with it.
>Zackbros are having the hardest time of their lives right now, which is funny because their character is ok with it.
I dont know if they will survive 4 years of this, and it will become even worse when the ultimania drops.
The people still trying to say No promises to keep is about Zack have to be the most coping and. in denial I’ve ever seen
A lot of them are either tifa x cloud fans or cc gays(which arent used to the concept of ff7 being a love triangle) so it really does not surprise me.
Did the voice actress do the song too? It was really good.
No, you could see the singer and VA were different people if you had bothered to googled it yourself
Damn someone is prickly today lol xD
You are allowed to look up stuff yourself instead of asking others to spoon-feed you
Lol no, no chance. The song is insanely hard to sing.
I think it gets funnier and funnier as each day passes because hamaguchi said 2 days ago how loveless is about cloud and aerith.
This mf is giving everyone who dislikes cloud and aerith the hardest battles ever.
This one is fricked up because i didnt even see any person trying to deny it.
What can you say? that the director is lying or doesnt understand the story of his game?
The director kept hyping up zack
After seeing rebirth, i know why, it was just not in the way his fans expected kek
>I think it gets funnier and funnier as each day passes because hamaguchi said 2 days ago how loveless is about cloud and aerith.
Hamaguchi and Kitase's agenda was always very clear.
dude's wearing a playmobile hair wtf
This one always cracks me up.
For me it is this one.
Is that an ugly jap woman? It has the hair and glasses of one, but no breasts or hips.
Calm down, Tifa.
hamaguchi looks so gay, no wonder the game is good
>cid sleeping during it
kek
It's reference to the OG where he said he slept through the Loveless play he went to see in Midgar
Is Part 3 really going to take another 4 years?
Remake - 2020
Rebirth - 2024
R3 - 2028
Has anyone named their kid cloud? Lol
Teenage moms. Surprised they made fun of his hair and not his name. I think they almost went the entire game without describing the sky.
Sephiroth makes a you can see through your clouded eyes pun once but other than that it’s left alone because half the main cast has fake names.
2027 would be perfect for VII's 30th anniversary.
Expecting them to get it out in 3 years is a tall order when its likely going to be an even bigger scale game than rebirth
Wrong. You remember how Disc 2 and 3 in OG had new areas: Icicle Inn, snow area, North Crater, Mideel, Junon Underwater reactor and Final Dungeon. The other content was optional sunken plane and ancient forest in cosmo canyon. And revisits to places you had been before. So the part 3 would have Wutai and Rocket town. So not that much more content if you comapare the content between Remake and Rebirth. 3 years is pretty realistic expectation
Yup, I see this being late 2027. April 2020 to Feb 2024. Same console generation this time, open world is basically done cause the Bronco shows its already connected. Just probably need to figure out a better way to load areas for the Highwind plus just expand the areas and maybe rework the layout just to change it up.
I don't want them to rush it to meet some shitty anniversary.
2027 to celebrate OG's 30th anniversary
is Tifa a virgin though?
back in 1997 sure
but in nu-square with old hag roasties in the company?
Yes, canonically, in a book written by nomura himself
why is no one comforting my wife
>short spats
Thanks Sony! Sony always wins, Sweet Baby!
You will be able to fly around and land anywhere in the world. Shit will be so cash
frick zackgays
frick crisis cucks
This. It’s entirely their fault the ending got ruined so badly.
>we must have Zack team up with kraudo to fight Sephiroth this is totally what they have been waiting for!
OH NO AERITH DIED :'(
it's okay there are 5 more
You didnt even play the game yet here you are
imagine defending this dogshit
You are using ungodly amount of time and effort to shitpost about a game you didnt even play
I've finished it you frickwit.
This was honestly a good qte moment in the game. I didn't really care for them but this one was cool
"you didn't even play it" is the lamest fricking damage control possible
Just pointing it out
No, you're just coping is what you're doing.
I have no idea how they thought this ending was acceptable. Goes to show SE are moronic
I hope part 3 has more Reno and less Elena.
I wanted more Reno too but his jap VA died, so that’s why he is sidelined
Reno's japanese VA died after Remake, so Reno won't be doing and talking much. That's why he used throwaway lines in Rebirth
This is my biggest complaint about Japanese voice acting.
The Japs are so autistic about it that when a voice actor dies they go out of their way to stop using that character instead of just replacing the actor, and they'll only replace VA's if the property literally can't function without the character, or it sits on ice for a few decades with no new content.
Reno's VA dying shouldn't mean we get less Reno. Just replace him for frick's sake.
This is interesting, because for Tekken, after Heihachi’s first VA committed suicide, they had a replacement VA for him by TT2 which came out a year after his first VA’s death. Wonder why more Jap series aren’t like that.
I think the longer a person voices one character, the less likely they are to want to replace them.
For a one off appearance they probably don't care. But as soon as they become "Known" for that character, replacing them is going to be damn near impossible while they're still alive and will need a comittee to decide a course of action when they day.
Imagine the fricking meltdown at Toei when Masako dies and they finally need to replace Goku. It took them months just to replace Bulma in a detergent commercial.
Franky VA from one piece is so old Oda isnt allowed to use Franky too much in the fricking technology arc
>Aerith dies again
I can now relate to Batman fans watching Thomas and Martha Wayne die again and again
Aerith sounds so bad during this game holy shit. Her last scene with Cloud was so shit I don’t know who thought she didn’t need another take.
Aerith is rebirth was repulsive as someone who preferred her in the OG and the remake. I support Tifa now for this trilogy even if they revive aerith.
Tifa definitely improved in rebirth voice acting wise. I think out of the newer voice cast, she got better with time.
She did a better job as Rosa than aerith’s VA did. Aerith and Cloud doesn’t work when they don’t go all in from the start and she doesn’t even die at the end.
Yeah I don’t know what the frick was happening with the Aerith version of loveless. Everyone sounds like they were reading from a script including cloud.
.......they're not good actors lol, it's supposed to sound hammy.
Well it fricking made the play cringe. Surprisingly didn’t enjoy loveless.
It's a play man it's supposed to be kinda cringe
remember how they hammed up the play in OG? Did it come off natural to you?
Probably direction, they were asked to act like reading a script instead of doing an actual play. The japanese version is a lot better.
Gee anon.
Let's get literal randos with no acting experience from the crowd to act in the play, they'll totally sound professional!
Obviously they weren't supposed to sound great. The whole point is that it was just some fun little bonus participation for the audience once the play was over. The actual play was the hologram with Jessie, and presumably we didn't see the entire play and just got a musical clip notes version for the sake of time.
How does one fight the adamantoise? He is spamming bullets 24/7.
DPS. I did it with cloud Tifa and aerith.
This is great because sephiroth says how he's empty but then when he cries for aerith he says his tears are fake. Nasty as frick.
That sephiroth guy is a real jerk
;_;
Its funny how Vincent is the only person on the team with a normal average name.
Cid is normal enough
how does it feel to be loved and desired by a woman?
Why the FRICK is the IP count gone?
Can't wait to ride the chadley airship, the CHADmobile
Yuffie version of the play was the best anyways tbh
What's the point of the rings that turn you into a frog lol.
To challenge yourself. You have seen the youtube videos of "Character X soloing a Boss X" and they have the 2 other characters wear the frog ring
Ah that makes sense
Who's voicing Reno now? Or are they recycling Keiji's voicelines from previous games?
Recycling.
Don't worry about Reno. I'm pretty sure the devs said he would be back in part 3 with a new voice actor for the Japanese version.
Who would they even get? Utawarerumono replaced him with the VA that Keiji's character was impersonating after his death, which was a nice touch.
why is this relationship so canon?
They're just buds
>just buds
Cloud is for aerith, Tifa is too motherly
Who told her that?
She's just baiting Cloud's reaction to gauge his interest in her. She's clearly ovulatiing but it's just too insecure to be outright rejected if she's too direct.
>Who told her that?
Tifa told her it and sent Yuffie out to pry for information from Cloud on if he feels the same way about her
>Tifa's head shape
Cursed image
Because it's meant to be a little ray of hope after the tragedy with Aerith.
And even if Aerith ends up finishing this trilogy fully alive, once Cloud regains all of memories and remembers who he is (With Tifa's help), I can't see any scenario where Aerith still willingly pursues him once the "Real" Cloud is back and it becomes obvious that his entire life's motivation is centered entierly around Tifa, and that Cloud chose to be her bodyguard long before she asked him to be hers.
You'll get a similar moment with Aerith just being happy for Cloud and her friend Tifa without a hint of jealousy, just like you got from Zack when Marlene told him Aerith liked Cloud.
SO fricking cute
>even Aerith is a Clotichad
How did Tifa feel when Cloud seethed over Aerith finding her own date in this moment
she also says basically the same thing if you bring Yuffie, does that mean she ships Cluffie too?
>At Nibelheim water tower
>the highest (and only change in) affinity option is to tell her "Yeah, sounds like something I'd do."
Aerith is a normal person who understands that people can like other people sometimes
Aerith realizes that Cloud and Tifa are in love and that her chances of being with Cloud are dead in the water
People really forget how nojima wrote tons of stories where people had past loves. FF7,FF8 and FF10 all have characters like that. They also find new love too.
if you dont fall in love with the right person on the first try you are a cuck if you are a man
Oh wow, how ironic and hilarious
Wakka literaly married his late brother's fiancé and got her pregnant. Zack is nothing compared to that.
Did you think he was gonna let some other dude get that sweet, sweet Goth 'tang? Would you?
People forget love and loss of loved ones has been a big part of Final Fantasy for a long, LONG time.
Ever since Sakaguchi's mom burned in a housefire and he never got over it.
Not even FFV escaped from that.
that a concept Gankerirgins have difficult to understand
>Totally missed the earlier clock tower moment where Aerith is concerned over Tifa and Cloud's friendship because she is a mentally well adjusted Stacey
It's about friendship maybe improve your media literacy
Only wins as the consolation prize...
the entire party (including Aerith) ships Cloti
Delete this.
Barret tells Cloud about asking out Tifa
Barret was talking about Aerith
>tell her.. before it's too late
This could not be more obviously hinting at Aerith
Aerith literally talks to Tifa about setting her up with Cloud
Aerith was talking to Tifa about how she's milked Cloud's wiener next to Tifa's sleeping body
Barret is so cool, he gets all the ladies.
Barret's wife was genuinely stacked and had a pretty face.
zack's new va is so bad so i don't know why they bothered adding him to the story
The devs think that if they push compilation trash just one more time that people will see the light and say it’s good
Clerith fans are trannies.
more like incels that never had a girl interested in them or a relationship.
Wtf there is different plays? Holy shit
If you date Yuffie or Tifa, they will play the female lead. If you date Aerith or the guys, Aerith will play the female lead
I'm both of them things.
Would you pick lolsorandum spork gf or big tit mommy?
>all these people not playing with the Japanese dub
Kekaroo!
You will never be japanese
Is it true that even Aerith's optional scenes are the only ones in credits?
Yes. Same thing as in Remake.
yeah
That's some Kingdom Hearts tier credits shit.
Yep. Remake was the same.
main girl shit, tifa will be always a secondary
This game is the very definition of theme park.
>should I play musuo bike fight?
>space invaders?
>fights with no challenge to them
What did the game flop?
Aerith will save the world again.
Why is Sephiroth so mean to Cloud? Even Sephiroth simply kissed him instead, he would win and become all powerful.
Sephiroth was humiliated by 16 yo grunt Cloud who bested him in his rage tard mode after Sephiroth had slashed Tifa
>If Sephiroth simply*
How much more obvious do you morons need the game to be? They beat you over the head with cloud x aerith. I swear
I just finished up Gold Saucer and met Gus.
A few things I must ask.
1. How wet was Yuffie during the Dio intro?
2.Is Dio Mode Achievable natty?
3. How in the frick did Cloud, the character that has been getting slapped around by giant robots and monsters, get knocked out by a Black person with a bat? Why did the girls and Red just give up? No, "well they have guns" does not fricking count, I just fought two mechs with machine gun arms.
4. I refuse to believe that Tifa, Aerith, and Yuffie were not gang raped while Cloud was knocked out. This is not even a coomer thing, Cait Sith makes it very clear all kinds of horrible shit happens down there. Gus makes it clear he is not above forcing them into prostitution.
5. Why in the frick do they call it a Prison when it's no longer a area where people are sent as punishment for breaking the law at the Saucer? It's now just an abandoned area that criminals infested on their own.
>1
Flowing so hard she could've condensed her own fertility materia
>2
No, Dio Mode is impossible
>3
The same way he can cut through buildings one moment but not a door the next: plot
>4
If they had been touched, there's no way Cloud wouldn't just go nuts on them. They were used as leverage. If you mess with Cloud's girls (esp. Tifa/Aerith), you lose all leverage with Cloud.
>5
They nickname it a prison because you basically live by street rule if survival of the fittest, and are at the whim of who has control, i.e. Gus
>Tifagays
>AIIIIEEEEEE AERITH YOU CAN'T LOOK AT OTHER MEN
Why does Cloud do this during his date with Tifa?
I really like how they revealed more Cloud's jealous type, it happens a lot in rebirth. We only see it mentioned in ultimanias, like the scene where cloud gets upset at the idea of aerith having dates with another guy in remake.
Cloud is a lot more emotional in Rebirth, it helps his characterization.
I like that he started to enjoy the attention and praise after beating Dio when you get to Gold Saucer. It..."felt" good to see him stop pretending to be stoic for once.
The same thing with the moogles.
There’s an unattainable scene in the OG FF7 where if your Affection levels with Aerith is at a ridiculous amount and you answer that one scene in Gongaga with jealousy, Aerith will tease Cloud and say that she is hoping that he was jealous, instead of just saying sorry for asking if he’s jealous.
I found it.
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Yes rebirth took those scenes and enhanced them a lot more, also spread them everywhere. I think cloud is jealous about aerith around 3-4 times in rebirth and she asks him about it at least 2 times.
If Cloud and Zack's positions were swapped there's no way he would've taken it as well. The schizo meltdown would be legendary
These small details are a good example of how the devs understand these characters, instead of just remaking the lines, they really integrated the jealous behavior into Cloud.
The original did have the 'jealous, envious' dialogue in Gongaga
They should Remake FFXV.
Emilio had her first
ntr gays are so annoying
>he didn't read Two Pasts
Lol. Lmao even.
the books are cloti fuel
Is ff not shit anymore......what is this emotion I'm feeling
does anyone have a webm of cloud beating the shit out of the wall at the temple of the ancients while the party looks on in horror?
when was Cloud ever actually "torn" between them? He wanted Aerith until she died and he was forced to choose the silver medal
Just posting the info, you have to talk about that with kitase.
Cloud isn't torn between Aerith and Tifa. He's torn between his current fake persona and his true self. That is the real twist of FF7 and what makes the Aerith and Tifa dynamics and the Sephiroth/Zack/Jenova influence on Cloud so interesting.
This random argument already tells me which side you prefer lmao
I love how you know more than the fricking director.
It is funny when shippers start having their headcanons challenged so they start fighting the people who actually make these games.
Cloud is clearly interested in both girls and that shit is very obvious.
No, 7 is popular because it was Trojan housed. This was in the 90s, before a game came out the only thing most people knew about it was from ads.The FF7 western marketing team went out of the way to hide it was a turn based RPG. It was also for the time, the most impressive thing ever to come out of a video game console to our collective 10 year old minds.
There is a frickton of games with massive budget,investment and quality that are forgotten 3 months later. FF7 is remembered for 27 years for different reasons.
I like how obviously not okay Cloud is like constantly, and they keep giving him the benefit of the doubt when he's been swinging at Black Robe guys since the first night in Midgar
Oui oui I know French. More than benefit of the doubt they have no other options and will take what they can get
My Cloud loves Yuffie.
when did you realize you were the Johnny in your own love story between Cloud, Tifa, and Aerith?
>have to fight sephiroth reborn 50 fricking times
>then sephiroth after that
jesus frick just end already
>sephiroth has an attack called whisper cannon
Not canon to me.