Final Fantasy XIV

Any news, Warrior of Light? Relic weapons built, crafter relics built, treasure maps farmed, Island Sanctuary maxed out? Any potatoes mashed or catgirls smashed?

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  1. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Pyromancer sends his regards.

  2. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Started leveling my GF's char. The are a lot of new players.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      that guy is one meltdown of quitting streaming for good
      his numbers are from someone who started on twitch 2 months ago

  3. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Tataru can go frick herself for tricking us into working in her sweatshop. Hanwiener is cooler than her because at least he got us a cool adventure in Hingashi where we fought a cool set of samurai armor we will never get to wear.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Tataru rewards you in all the hot potato that you can inseminate.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        That was the reward from Nanamo over the Sil'dah thing though.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >she rewards you with trash no one wants

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Sorry but I don't want crotchrot.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          It's either that or you get salmonella from a au'ra.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            >au'ra
            new race?

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      That questline really fricked itself during the last quest. The first two quests weren't anything to brag about either, but you got some background info about Tataru from Pippin and the second quest had pirates tomfoolery and Emmanellain being moronic. The next two quests were really good though, you got the kami being goofy, basically confirmation that you are descendant from Tenzen and a good glam reward. The 6.4 quest you got a nice prologue for Sorrow of Werlyt and a pretty amazing mecha cutscene. And Nero, of course.

      But the last quest? All that bullshit for a chocobo barding? The only good part of it was the Studium people. What a load of bull.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >prologue
        obviously meant epilogue
        im not moronic please

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          That questline really fricked itself during the last quest. The first two quests weren't anything to brag about either, but you got some background info about Tataru from Pippin and the second quest had pirates tomfoolery and Emmanellain being moronic. The next two quests were really good though, you got the kami being goofy, basically confirmation that you are descendant from Tenzen and a good glam reward. The 6.4 quest you got a nice prologue for Sorrow of Werlyt and a pretty amazing mecha cutscene. And Nero, of course.

          But the last quest? All that bullshit for a chocobo barding? The only good part of it was the Studium people. What a load of bull.

          >im not moronic please
          yeah you are

  4. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Rank 9 and a half after one week of island sanctuary.
    Got every rare beast available in that time as well actually. Now i can min max on tuesday with my workshops for currency to buy these fricking mounts.

  5. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I like the PSO vibes the new relics have but I don't want to do the required Hildebrand quests

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      casual

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Pyromancer sends his regards.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >i don't like the hildi quest grind
      >i want the old grind
      >i don't want the 1500 tomes bs
      >i preffer the other tome bs that was over 1500 and also pvp currency, those were the times
      you can't please everyone

  6. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I had decided I'd choose which job to step into DT with based on who'd get my favorite last step relic, but all of them suck and I wouldn't use a single one of them for any job so...

  7. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Trying to motivate myself to do all the things I've already finished on my previous account that was banned for no reason, but I'm this close to just unsubscribing until 7.0 drops. The NA GMs have utterly killed all of my excitement for this game.
    >Eureka (I had the Ozma mount)
    >Island Sanctuary up to level 12
    >All of the Extreme mounts
    >Fricking level 9 in collecting all of the Triple Triad Cards
    >Literally less than 50,000 MGP to go to get that blackjack mount
    >God knows where I was in collecting all of the Orchestrion rolls, but a frick ton
    >level 90 in all combat jobs
    >two decently leveled gatherer/crafters
    >first part of Bozja

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      what do you think they might have banned you for anon?

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        alright cmon tell the truth, you we're probably banned for badmouthspeak or RMT. GM's dont just ban for "No Reason"

        t. got banned twice for calling a tank a spastic and vote kicking him and setting up a macro to spam a FC member for being a little ESL Black person that couldnt read a conversation

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      alright cmon tell the truth, you we're probably banned for badmouthspeak or RMT. GM's dont just ban for "No Reason"

      t. got banned twice for calling a tank a spastic and vote kicking him and setting up a macro to spam a FC member for being a little ESL Black person that couldnt read a conversation

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        iirc he was banned for trying to police the novice network and report other people for using it as a global-chat but i don't remember the specifics of how he was a complete asshat
        needless to say he did it three times and got perma'd so he did do something

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          Keep lying, b***h Black person

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            >he said Black person on Ganker
            >that must mean he must have said it on FFXIV
            Superman couldn't make that leap, you dumb moronic homosexual.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Is this the anon that got banned and was spamming threads for months? Turns out he was reporting people en masse and harassing people nonstop in novice network to the point where his entire account was perma banned.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        nah different guy. THAT one posts his chatlogs where he's careful not to show anything he said himself

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          Ah ok, that guy was very unstable, same vibes as the weirdos that spam /vg/ threads and drive around to new hotspots every time they get banned.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Every report I made was entirely justified. And yes, that was me. So stop lying. I was banned for "nuisance behavior." The GMs would rather kick players for making warranted reports than do their fricking job.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          There he is, the mentally ill one

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            Sure thing, discord troony

            You'd best delete your post before somebody finds your Twitter from that filename

            Like I give a frick. I have nothing to hide.

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              Keep lying, b***h Black person

              If you don't post screenshots of you saying the Black person word then that itself is proof you said the Black person word and you're hiding it because there's no other reason for you to not have screenshots of it when we know you said it because you refuse to post screenshots which is proof of guilt.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                He's a solved case, he trolled and insists he didn't. He was kicked out and reported by separate people each time and is insanely specific in not showing anything he said himself. He's so boring he's not even worth the attention.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                I censor my name and nothing else. The report section clearly asks for nothing else except the offending comments. Stop moving the goalposts and accept that the GMs are not infallible you gaslighting piece of shit.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                You're annoying so I like the GMs better.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                not a valid rebuttal, GM boot licker

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                Tell me those sweet little lies, plebbit

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          You'd best delete your post before somebody finds your Twitter from that filename

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      God I wish they banned the damn early pullers from hunts, frick off, you didn't spawn it.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >usually can only make time to play late at night (Sargatanas)
        >today was the first time I've played in early evening in several weeks
        >late night/early morning people will sit there until a big enough crowd gathers for S ranks, usually announcing the exact ET they're going to pull
        >frickers tonight just attack it the moment it they get to it and it's dead before most people show up

        Forgot how rude prime time fricks are.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          just dc travel to primal then, they take 6mins to pull a mark and they reset every mark for 10mins if someone earlypulls. seems like the perfect dc for your hunting needs

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          Rhiki's bullet train caught wind of the S rank spawn. You were fricked the moment that happened.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            it’s not just that, there’s a guy called a. crow who has made it his life’s mission to pull as many aether s-ranks as fast as he can

  8. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Doing eureka right now, getting blackmage relic
    been farming bunnies inbetween fates
    made about 4m in the 10 hours ive been here so far.
    Friend joined just to hang out, got a gold pyros bunny within 10 mins and earned 5.5m
    Not to sound too bitter but i am definitely seething.

  9. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'm gearing my dancer which means 6 more aglaia runs, 7 more euphrosyne runs, 7 more thaleia runs and a month of grinding comedy tomestones

    if thaleia coins were dropping every run this wouldn't be so bad, but just the thought of having to do thaleia once every week makes my heart sink. the rest of the raids are fine because how fast the bosses die but thaleia... ugh

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      idk how anyone can stand farming euphrosyne and thaleia, such incredibly boring raids

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Euphrosyne goes down fast. Thaleia is a motherfricker though.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          i still don't fully get the final boss hands triangle mechanic

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            The hands appear on the side that the cleave will. So if hands are on her left, right, left, you have to consider where she's starting, and which direction she'll be facing when she dashes to the first point. She'll hit left of that, turn to face point 2, hit right of that, and finally left for 3. When she does a full circle of hands, it's going to be the donut.

  10. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    My sub ran out and I've done everything I wanted to do before Dawntrail but I'm surprised by how tempted I am to resub just to do daily roulettes. I enjoy playing the slot machine and revisiting old fights.

  11. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'm playing Dragon Quest X instead. Needed something different.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      tell me which is the DQ with more sexo and I'll play it

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        you get to have children in DQ5 so I guess that

  12. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    sex with Elezen

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      yes

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Elezens shouldn't play trash jobs for savages like monk

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          please.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            I wish they would leave the max level at 90. Having to level all these again is going to be awful.

  13. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    can't believe this is the supposed new content we are getting in dawntrail
    CBUIII is shit

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      idk what you're talking about
      DT looks pretty 'meaty' to me

  14. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >confirmed to have the same job philosophy as shb/ew
    It's already over

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      your pic makes no sense

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Because you didn't play before ShB

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          you're half right

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >jobs easier
      >fights harder
      I don't see a problem

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Harder jobs with easier fights is objectively more fun.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Harder jobs and easier fights allows more room for skill expression for more competent players which means more fun while also allowing room for less skilled players to get carried and participate in higher level content. Overall everyone wins. Harder fights and easier jobs makes the basic gameplay unsatisfying and leaves no room for more skill expression which leaves competent players bored and the fights just become extremely strict body checks which become frustrating to replay.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          Harder jobs with easier fights is objectively more fun.

          Completely disagree, jobs don't need 6 bars of abilities, they need to be hard enough to force you to learn them and eventually when you are skilled enough be able to perform them without having to think about it. That's the fun of having tough encounters, they are so hard they force you to think more about the mechanics and if you can't handle your job you aren't going to progress.

          >muh skill expression
          Why is this phrase so overused? The game has always been designed with the same mentality. Jobs are not necessarily easier, you're just getting better and over time skills have to be reworked/removed because we need to have room for new skills. If you didn't play MMOs before 2004 you really shouldn't be using that phrase.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            >jobs don't need 6 bars of abilities
            Nobody said they did.
            >Jobs are not necessarily easier
            They are much easier, for the most part. Meanwhile fights have become unfun body checks with extreme dps requirements and they just aren't as fun to play and they're much less accessible to new players.
            >If you didn't play MMOs before 2004 you really shouldn't be using that phrase.
            Luckily I've played MMOs since 1999 so I can say whatever I want.

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              Except jobs haven't gotten easier, they've been retooled but most of that was either to fix jank that never worked or make room for new skills. Meanwhile every single encounter, even dungeons, have been made harder.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Except jobs haven't gotten easier
                Frick off ShBaby.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Except jobs haven't gotten easier
                They have, across the board. You just dismiss the removed mechanics as """"jank""""". I've noticed jank is the new favorite buzzword of casuals who are scared of complexity.

                >NOOOO i used to press a button before pressing a button it was SO HARD you have no idea
                You are a career expert dungeon runner, you've never done any content harder than an EX trial and furthermore I know for a fact you dislike Bozja.

                Stop posting.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                Wrong on every count but at least you've stopped pretending you have an argument.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Muh Bozja
                Yep, you 100% started in ShB.

                Well yeah I said Bozja, it's not like the game had any interesting content before that. What, do you think running dungeons was fun? Brother no one likes listening to whiny babies complain about how """easy""" jobs are now without actually giving out any information to back up their claim, you just sit here and cry your little baby eyes out while everyone else is having fun.

                things change but that doesn't mean old good new bad

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Brother no one likes listening to whiny babies complain about how """easy""" jobs are now without actually giving out any information to back up their claim
                MCH ammo system gone
                MNK greased lightning gone
                Cleric Stance gone
                SCH DoTs gone
                SMN lol
                Just to name a few things. I know you're gonna call it all """""muh jank""""" so no need for you to bother.
                >Well yeah I said Bozja, it's not like the game had any interesting content before that.
                Moron.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >No one cared for it
                >It's built into the job
                >A basic cooldown wow press button
                >DoTs are low skill abilities
                >SMN did not function and was not liked

                yikes, at least you didn't bring up the hilarity of dark arts or kaiten

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Cleric Stance
                >A basic cooldown wow press button
                moron

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                Explain to the class the extremely high skill cap behind Cleric Stance and it's specific uses that only people who could exploit the highest tier of skill expression could utilize.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Doesn't even know Cleric's original function.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >No one cared for it
                I did.
                >It's built into the job
                Yeah, so it's no longer a mechanic you have to actively manage. That's the point dumbfrick.
                >A basic cooldown wow press button
                Stupid fricking newbie.
                >DoTs are low skill abilities
                So why were they removed? Because managing multiple DoTs on different timers filtered morons like you.
                >SMN did not function and was not liked
                It functioned just fine, you didn't play it because you were scared. I loved SB and ShB SMN.

                Explain to the class the extremely high skill cap behind Cleric Stance and it's specific uses that only people who could exploit the highest tier of skill expression could utilize.

                Long before you started playing the game Cleric Stance was a toggle that almost completely killed your healing output, and you were locked into it for 5 seconds so you actually had to be aware of what was happening and how to play your job. It wasn't just a damage cooldown, newbie. have a nice day.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >So why were they removed?
                dots were removed because 14's engine is dogshit and can't handle tracking that many buffs/debuffs.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                Ok so you press button, do damage, then press button again to turn it off.

                Truly the highest of the high skill cap abilities, the player has to know what is happening for the next 5 seconds god they must have been insane at the game holy shit.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >admits he wasn't even there to experience it
                >still claims it was braindead
                Small bits of complexity add up, and when you get good at handling all those complex pieces together, it feels good. morons like you weren't forced to use the scary red cleric stance button, but you b***hed and moaned anyway because you wanted the entire game brought down to your level so you didn't feel like the waste of air you re.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                Anon I'm making fun of you, is this going over your head or what?

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                NTA but making moronic shitposts just shows you lost the argument and are now trying to save face.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                The only shitposting here is you, whining endlessly about how hard the game used to be because 1 button existed or a job had dots they cast and then waited 30 seconds to cast again. Have you beat all 5 ultimates? Did you get your (terrible) title Epic Hero? Have you completed all the BLU challenges?

                Most of all, are you a fan of Bozja? I point this out specifically because Bozja believe it or not has ALL of the things you are sad that were removed from the game, surely you like it, right?

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Have you beat all 5 ultimates?
                Working on TOP still.
                >Did you get your (terrible) title Epic Hero?
                Yes
                >Have you completed all the BLU challenges?
                Yes
                >Most of all, are you a fan of Bozja?
                Yes

                How is any of this an argument? Stupid motherfricker. Jobs aren't easier now because Bozja exists?

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                Considering you can't wrap your head around why Bozja is being mentioned I'm going to place a big Doubt on your response.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                You're mentioning Bozja because earlier in the thread you mentioned some stupid fricking idea you have that people who enjoyed old complexity and have played the game longer than you all hate Bozja, as if that makes any sense at all outside your own personal delusions.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                The skills you miss are in Bozja, you haven't been in there have you?

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >The skills you miss are in Bozja
                They are not, shadowbab.
                >you haven't been in there have you?
                Yes, I have. A lot.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                Considering your overusage of that insult and your general lack of knowledge about the game I'm going to guess you yourself came over in the great WoW herd and are trying too hard to fit in.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                I'm a Legacygay and you have already admitted that you are in fact the newbie. Which is also why you think any of the removed job mechanics are in Bozja.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                Bro you literally revealed you didn't know what Cleric Stance did in ARR/HW earlier in this thread. You thought it was only the set and forget cooldown it was in Stormblood. You are a newbie.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                I'm a Legacygay and you have already admitted that you are in fact the newbie. Which is also why you think any of the removed job mechanics are in Bozja.

                >N-no you're the new player!!!!
                You can't understand the simple concept of irony or someone being facetious. You can sit here and proclaim you started in 1903 all you want but it's not going to get you anywhere because we can see the truth now.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                You literally didn't even know how cleric stance worked.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                I see any and all humor goes over your head, sad.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Lost Actions is enough to compensate for entire gameplay systems that have been excised.
                >The existence of Lost Actions in Bozja is supposed to, somehow, compensate for the fact every boss in the game auto-centers, every job has the exact same gampeplay, DoTs have been arbitrarily removed, and Pet classes don't exist even though MMOs from the 2000s implemented them successfully back then.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                Anon if you knew even the basics of raiding you'd know why bosses auto center before specific mechanics. You might also know that pets have literally never functioned in XIV and they were removed because they can't get them to work.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                plus DoTs were removed because everybody except scholars fricking hated them when there's more than one to manage

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >If you played my Endslop raids you would know why it's literally impossible for widely-acclaimed raid tier Alexander Midas to exist in FFXIV. ARR and HW raid design actually never existed.
                lmao

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                posting "slop" is an automatic concession

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >shit shit shit he's right i don't have an argument...!
                >...WAIT!
                >he posted a word i don't like! phew, that was close!

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                the refs have convened and you are being double-penalized for claiming "slop" is an argument
                one more outburst like that and you're going be benched for the next game, buster

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                the refs have convened and you are being double-penalized for claiming "slop" is an argument
                one more outburst like that and you're going be benched for the next game, buster

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                I mean you just responded by saying exactly what I said, you don't know the first thing about raid mechanics and don't understand why a boss re-centers.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                The boss re-centers because expecting the tank to handle that himself is too stressful for shadowbabs.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >If I keep spamming the same insults that give me away as a WoW player people will take me seriously

                Bosses recenter for two main reasons, one is because the mechanic itself is complex enough that the boss needs to be stationairy (as in it's centered on where the boss is), two is because it makes it impossible to cheese mechanics or make them easier by moving the boss to the safe spot during or ahead of the mechanic. You don't see this a lot in older raids because mechanics were rather simple or only handed out to a couple players at a time.

                What old raids did instead is have the boss entirely disappear for a mechanic if it was too complex to handle normally, this is how we got "trios".

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >one is because the mechanic itself is complex enough that the boss needs to be stationairy
                And so the tank should have to move the boss to the center so the mechanic can be performed properly.
                >two is because it makes it impossible to cheese mechanics or make them easier by moving the boss to the safe spot during or ahead of the mechanic
                This was never once a concern.
                >What old raids did instead is have the boss entirely disappear for a mechanic if it was too complex to handle normally
                They do this in new raids far more often than in old raids. moron.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >one is because the mechanic itself is complex enough that the boss needs to be stationairy (as in it's centered on where the boss is)
                So they can't trust tanks to manage positioning
                >two is because it makes it impossible to cheese mechanics or make them easier by moving the boss to the safe spot during or ahead of the mechanic
                Imagine if they just let you cheese stuff but they made jobs harder to play, hmm

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                You're saying exactly what I'm saying here:

                Their mechanical design has become so hacky that if they don't have complete control over where everything is positioned, players inevitably find ways to completely break the mechanic. This didn't use to happen because mechanics were designed under the assumption that the boss could be anywhere when casting.

                If "hard encounters, easy classes" means mechanics have to be so strict and overwrought that they have to remove core elements of MMO gameplay (such as tank positioning), then it just shows it's the wrong design philosophy. Difficulty should be in the jobs.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >don't understand why a boss re-centers.
                Because they know the mouthbreathers who play tank can't be trusted to do it. That's also the reason they gave them infinite healing and took away all aggro management.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah because they've become shit at designing mechanics with more than one solution. Being able to position the boss allowed for position-based varieties in strategy for certain mechanics (example: Celestriad in O8S), but ever since Eden they're too afraid that their shitty repetitive mechanics will collapse if a boss is not perfectly centered.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                Shadowbabies always do this.
                >[THING THAT EXISTED IN THE GAME, AND WORKED JUST FINE FOR YEARS (SUCH AS DOTS, HAVING TO ACTUALLY OPTIMIZE MELEE UPTIME OR DO BOSS POSITIONING)] WOULD LITERALLY NEVER WORK IN THIS GAME!!!! IT WOULD BREAK EVERYTHING!!! LE SPAGHETTI CODE!!!!
                It's feels as if Yoshida announced that Monk is being completely removed from the game in Dawntrail, they'd turn around and immediately say Monk would be actually impossible to have in the game and always was.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >He doesn't know why melee classes with 2s GCD would never work in FFXIV.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Yoshi played an MMO, that had stuff like a proper pet class and multispec, to take ideas for his plan to save XIV
                >Only way he does that stuff in XIV is to not let people actually play it

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                I love Bozja but you're a stupid homosexual. Better class design makes all content more fun, even your brain dead roulettes.
                >He thinks DoTs were always on a synchronized 30 sec timer
                Stupid newbie.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                Nothing is funnier than getting the casual dungeon runners who complain about old jobs and balance issues riled up. They are so far down the totem pole they can't understand why the game changes and they don't see that it's getting harder and not easier. You probably freak out about the 2 minute meta too.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >The game is getting harder because there's a small handful of ultra-long bodycheck spam fights, of which we get one per year at maximum.
                >Let's now ignore that every single piece of content below Ultimates has become a boring and repetitive meme with the dullest job design imaginable.
                >UMMMM THE GAME HAD TO CHANGE BECAUSE IT JUST... HAD TO CHANGE OKAY?! GETTING RID OF DOTS AND PETS AND BOSS POSITIONING WERE EXTREMELY NECESSARY FOR... REASONS OKAY????

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                Even basic dungeon bosses are harder than normal raids from years ago, that's how silly things are.

                >he doesn't know why pets were removed

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                Compare Myths of the Realm vs. Shadow of Mhach now. Every single Myths raid is as easy as Void Ark was on release.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                I wouldn't go that far. Weeping City and Dun Scaith sure, but Void Ark has always been piss easy. The 3rd boss is the only one there that even does anything.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Void Ark on release
                >Those people who would always get eaten
                >Other alliances never activating the vents
                >Cuchulainn eating half the alliance for some reason
                >Tanks not separating adds on Echidna
                It wasn't actually that challenging mechanically but it was a clusterfrick sometimes.
                >healing it a few minutes after it first released

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous
              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Ok so you press button, do damage, then press button again to turn it off.
                It had a relatively long cooldown after you pressed it, so you had to have some degree of fight knowledge to not end up with a huge healing potency debuff right during heal intensive phases.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                So the pinnacle of "old xiv jobs were harder" amounts to, don't press this button if you have to heal soon, crazy. It's insane how much easier the game is today without this button you can't press if you have to heal soon.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                Encounter design back then was also full of rapid untelegraphed tankbusters, but you've only touched that content unsynced.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >So you're telling me that the difference between a house and a pile of shit is that one is made of wood

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                Bosses used to be able to crit.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                And it was fricking TERRIFYING. Being chunked for a significant, near-tankbuster amount of damage by a single auto-attack never failed to give me a fricking heart attack when I was progging.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                It was a mechanic that you had to take care of, among many others that got shaved off the jobs' kit until we ended up with what we have today, with barely anything to compensate for the loss.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                Yes. Adding 1 more button is infinitely more complex than 2111111111111111 with the occasional ogcd press after a raidwide.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >DUDE YOU JUST PRESS BUTTON OMG SO EASY!!! EVERY BUTTON PRESS IS EXACTLY THE SAME!!!!

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                What is it with shadowfetuses and having disdain for everything that came prior to it? It's like they are fans of Shadowbringers instead of Final Fantasy XIV.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                That's how they are, most of them didn't even like or care about the story until shb either
                >SB was bad because reddit told me so
                >HW was acscksully overrated
                >I skipped ARR LOOLl

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                I've noticed that zoomers have the tendency even outside of Final Fantasy XIV discussions to defend new entries in a series or demakes by trying to claim the beloved older game is shit. It's such an odd tactic because shitting on something the preexisting audience likes is not a good way to get them to come around to new thing.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                Shadowfetuses melt down insanely if you tell them ARR had better encounter design than ShB.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Muh Bozja
                Yep, you 100% started in ShB.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Shadowbaby can't even conceive of SB jobs, much less HW kino.
                Sad.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Except jobs haven't gotten easier
                They have, across the board. You just dismiss the removed mechanics as """"jank""""". I've noticed jank is the new favorite buzzword of casuals who are scared of complexity.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                Go look at healers and tell me they haven't gotten easier.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >noooo i had to think 5 seconds ahead

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        You should since fun jobs affect 100% of the playerbase, whereas hard fights affect about 5%.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        harder fights literally just mean the worst player(the ranged or token gf healer) make raiding less fun
        WOW RAID WIDE DAMAGE DOWN, THANKS (same moron every time)

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          Just fricking leave then, it's not hard to join other groups or make your own. But you don't play so you don't have connections through PF of raid groups

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            >leaving a group of 7 competent people because of 1 bad apple
            You realize the only reason we are stuck with them is because literally no one else want to play healer? because se ruined them by pandering to whm shitters?

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              the whole phrase is "one bad apple spoils the bunch" anon.

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              Yes, what I've learnt from TOP as my first ult is that I either call out the problems with the group so we can work it out or I leave and find people who can

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              you chose to be a little b***h and avoid confrontation and remove the cause of your problems and lost good players for your cowardice

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                It's more like Ive realized no one good at the game still play healer

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Harder jobs easier fights makes normal/dungeons more engaging, while also making harder content more approchable for your average player since they can bring their own personal job experience

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Harder jobs and easier fights allows more room for skill expression for more competent players which means more fun while also allowing room for less skilled players to get carried and participate in higher level content. Overall everyone wins. Harder fights and easier jobs makes the basic gameplay unsatisfying and leaves no room for more skill expression which leaves competent players bored and the fights just become extremely strict body checks which become frustrating to replay.

        its literally the same net difficulty you fricking moronic autist purple parsing homosexuals

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          It's not, because if a job's skill ceiling is higher and there's more room for error in a fight then someone who's actually good at the game has a chance to go super saiyan and take the burden of a moronic teammate on his shoulders, increasing the difficulty of the fight and resulting in more satisfaction, plus it gives room for lower skill players to start getting involved in higher end content and eventually getting more confident. Instead we're stuck with instant wipe bodychecks that you can't outskill your way through and the dps checks have no leniency because there's no room between the skill floor and skill ceiling, you just play your job at a baseline and that's it. One option is obviously superior.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            > if a job's skill ceiling is higher and there's more room for error in a fight then
            > take the burden of a moronic teammate on his shoulders, increasing the difficulty of the fight and resulting in more satisfaction
            you are mentally ill. having room for error = easy fights to make up for hard jobs = overall difficulty hasnt changed
            shutup, casual

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              If the overall difficulty doesn't change then you should have no issue shifting it back to a design which makes jobs more satisfying to play for competent players and fights less infuriating to play through because everything is a body check. Stupid homosexual.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                As a competent player, Heavensward job designs blew fat wieners

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                That's because you aren't actually a competent player, you're only """competent""" under a paradigm without any difference between skill floor and skill ceiling.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                Only incompetent players would disagree with you after all

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                Only incompetent players would say that job design which allows you the freedom to carry other people on your back through skilled play is worse than job design which allows you no such freedom, if that's what you mean.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                Sure let's go with your hyper-specific definitions so I can get back to shitting on you for them

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              >parsetroony calling anyone else mentally ill

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            This is the feeling I always got from FFXIV raids that makes me drop it every time even though I really enjoy everything else in it. Like you are hitting a pre programmed ceiling and floor that are very measured, very Japan sarariman. You put it into words better than I can.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Did we accidentally find exactly what's wrong with this game?

  15. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Thomas Aquinas has entered the thread

  16. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Excluding BLM, what other jobs are going to be butchered in DT?

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      DRG and AST for sure, but every other job can't really get any worse, right?

  17. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    https://pastebin.com/rirHmeAZ
    Have a Gankerx lalagay filter. Add an image yourself if it isn't on here. Or update a pastebin if you want.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Thanks for keeping it updated, I haven't posted mine in a while I just add new images to it

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      how to add filters to 4chin bro?

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        he cant filter you forever

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        he cant filter you forever

        bros?

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >no job
      KEKAROOOOOOO

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        he's leeching off of his parents so he can sit on Ganker all day and seethe about lalafells
        that is some dedication

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Only two of those are me.
        Where do you think you are, anyways?

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >that huge ass list
      you definitely won, buddy

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Look how triggered they are by you filtering them

  18. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Eorzean Mythology says Nymia and Althyk were brother and sister but still fricked and had Azeyma and Menphina as daughters

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      You mean like in Greek mythology where every God is immediate family to each other.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >gods are influenced by prayers to them
      >people pray to them thinking they are lovers
      >they get mindbroken and start to frick
      Just like my Japanese animes

  19. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    When are we finally going to get our hands on the coveted Gunblade?

  20. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'm new to Ff14 still on ARR. Where can I get treasure maps and are they interesting?

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Gatherers can find treasure maps, there are certain events that drop them too.
      they can give decent loot and have a chance to spawn a dungeon where you get better rewards the further you go in, but is gated by rng between encounters

  21. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Will we ever see a trial as kino, let alone more kino?

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      God this trial was great, I fricking loved stomping a mudhole in his Elidibussy, my only regret is that we couldn't punch him into the CT in the middle of homosexual ass monologue. Frick the ancients.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        zased

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Honestly I doubt it, I don't see them ever making more kino shit than shb and ew's highs.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Honestly I doubt it, I don't see them ever making more kino shit than shb and ew's highs.

      Eh, we've had better in the past, if they continue to take elements from XI we might see something similar to Adoulin and that had some great moments.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >samurai shoots a fireball blocking another fireball
        moronic

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          There's a reason that dumb bird loves him so much.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          excuse me his blade is the Phoenix and Bahamut is about to megaflare a whole fleet of airships out of the sky what would you have him do?

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            love Prishe kick

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      They still got some left over ascians and plenty of other FFs to use for nostalgia

  22. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    do you mod you're character?

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      i'm tempted now

  23. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    i want easier jobs and easier fights because I'm bad at the game

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      just like, stick to alliance raids and bozja?

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        no, 7 other people owe me savage clears

  24. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >now fights are harder meme
    instant wipe because 1 idiot messed up isn't difficulty
    now I don't even want to do 24man which I used to like, so fricking boring

  25. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >this scares the shb baby

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      And what makes this different than MNK today?

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Positionals and ogcds mostly.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      KINOOOOOOOOOOO I miss it every day.

  26. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    How many times will we see a spicy food gag in Dawntrail?

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      probably not a lot. it was the spicy indian food that was the gag this time. and cat girl isn't used to it, so it is unlikely their food is that spicy to begin with

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      There will be at least one food scene between every dungeon

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        THERE BETTER BE

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Pic
      Fake and gay, we've already seen WoL can eat the spiciest food in the world and not react at all. Mord Souq food trains you better than anything that could be found on the Source.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >their wol is a little fricking b***h
      trust the fujoids and gays to choose the cringiest options
      t big fan of the spiciest buuz imaginable

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        you've been whining for two expansions now about homos, give it up, this is our game now

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          >

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            The game has been having homos since ARR. Seethe and cope lmao.

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              >2 gays in camp bronze lake means fujos were always pandered to, female characters were always excluded/discarded, etc
              Take a shower

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                Bruh shut the frick up. ARR had Haurchefant, the gaycat and highlander couple and the aesthetician as well (the mogpost quest basically confirms he a gay). HW was literally a sausage fest, and you have a fukn dinner date with Aymeric. SB had a literal yandere oujisama villain, a quest about an elezen male having a crush on a crossdresser and the Omega raids were just massive fuel for Cid x Nero shippers.

                This game was never yours lmao.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >moron fujo thinks being given half something is the same as being given the entire thing
                Lose weight

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            But he's right, the skimpy roes and catboys have been all over since ARR

  27. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    what was his endgame?

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Make some ayy friends and then frick bird dicky.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Why didn't he just have sex?

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        he did, with every meteion he released into space

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Do ancients even have sex? And ancients in general seem somewhat passionless outside of their work, I have to imagine ancient sex to be the most plain, boring missionary in bed with the lights off, 5 minutes dump and cum and nothing else.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          considering you really only see them at work, I wonder why that might be

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          lahabrea did. I bet the sex with athena is crazy

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          running theme with the ancients
          >lahabrea spends a lot of time talking about how in-love he and athena were
          >neither of them actually gave much of a shit about eachother and lost themselves in their work immediately after fricking
          >may have only fricked the once
          >lahabrea is a horrible father and acquiesces to being such without any real argument

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >>Why didn't he just have sex?
        Why didn't he just create an adult version of Meteion and make her his wife?

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          Because his taste isn't that shit.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          >adult version

          hermes is asexual autistic. 100% the type that would think a pretty girl who's asking him what he's doing is actually asking him about what he's doing and not flirting

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      To be the most autistic man in all of existence and every reality

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      To find the meaning of life from other civilizations on other worlds in order to justify his own attachment to life as unlike everyone else around him who don't really seem to care about creating and destroying creatures or just dying themselves whenever they feel like it.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Supremely selfish butthole, throwed the universe down the toilet just so he could feel good about himself.

  28. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >This scares the "XIV jobs are too easy now" crowd

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      You know websites have been around forever that do that for you right? No one who played 11 ever learned those charts beyond a couple of the more common combos.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        If it looks like inhuman bullshit to try and remember, Occam's Razor says yeah it probably is and somebody bringing it out like everybody who played that class knew it by heart and wasn't consulting it every five seconds as their own memory allowed is bullshitting you

        >still no online upload of the EE3
        The frick is taking so long?

        If you need something specific from it I can look it up for you

  29. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >still no online upload of the EE3
    The frick is taking so long?

  30. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >wtf why won't these poor, terrified, beaten down people who have been living under fear of death daily for over a decade not fight and die for me??

  31. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >FFXIV classes used to have 4 small things to maintain besides their basic filler rotation.
    >Now most FFXIV classes have 1 or 0 small things to maintain besides their basic filler rotation.
    >There's no difference between 0 and 4 because each individual small maintenance mechanic was simple on its own.
    Shadowbabies are truly moronic.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Having 3 DoTs with different timers and having a single 30 second DoT are exactly the same thing you fricking chud.

  32. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Bozja is why half the jobs play the same now
    NEW SCHIZO THEORY DROPPED

  33. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >bro you don't get it jobs were so complicated we used to have 3 damage buffs instead of 2 and we had a DoT BRO A DoT!!!

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Bro every time I pressed Midare I had to press Kaiten before it, it was SO HARD you wouldn't get it.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >muh kaiten
        SAM was ridiculed for being simple even back in SB

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        not that anon, but I liked kaiten because it had a good animation which flowed really nicely into Iaijutsu
        they removed it to save on hotbar space, yet they don't consolidate Ikishoten and Ogi-Namakiri despite the latter being literally unusable without it, so why aren't they the same button?

  34. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >The Shadowbaby immediately starts seething and shitposting because he revealed a profound lack of knowledge of FFXIV's mechanical history.
    Many such cases.

  35. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    What will they give to MCH in Dawntrail?

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      another charge to reassemble, gauss round, and ricochet.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >get level sync
        >forced to overcap because you have 2 charges instead of 3

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Personal hopes
      >Chain Saw gets changed into an actual chainsaw instead of the saw-blade shooter it is now
      >They figure out what the frick they want to do with Flamethrower because it's been useless since Shadowbringers and has felt like shit to use since Stormblood
      >Automaton Queen or Rook Autoturret mount

      Assumption based off of Wuk Lumat's attack that uses WAR LB3 effects
      >we get a miniaturized Satellite Beam LB3 as a massive-dick attack, maybe as a laser rifle or a dedicated Automaton building

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Oh and add to personal hopes
        >Please for the love of almighty frick let Auto-Crossbow refresh Gauss Round/Ricochet charges
        >Change it to Auto-Crossbow refreshing Ricochet and Heat Blast refreshing Gauss Round if you have to
        >I don't care
        >Just let Ricochet get refreshed by something that's not Heat Blast, it's asinine it works the way it does now

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      They really need more active abilities. My MCH hotbar looks like a fricking kid piano

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        better than SMN, they have only 4 buttons they press more than once a minute

  36. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    One question, even if it is confirmed that Solution 9 is located in the north of Tural, that doesn't mean that it was always there, does it? because I can't believe that a civilization that seems to be the most advanced of all the ones we have seen appears out of nowhere.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      It could be abandoned and inaccessible until now. The robots have been maintaining Azys Lla so they could be maintaining Solution 9 as well.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Its digital. The warmonger recently discovered the giant computer its in and has been arming his lizards with their tech. The zone its in is literally called Heritage Found.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      clearly it has some connection to tural, the dawn keeper or whatever the frick is probably in charge if getting some kind of instruction from it.

  37. 3 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Even a chart explaining the utter basics of HW DRK makes it look more complex than EW classes.

  38. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    are you happy with how Femhroths turned out?
    if you never had any hope whatsoever, no need to reply

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      The more human-like face is pretty much a Mithra and everything else is more than enough snout to satisfy the HMOFAs and furgays that wanted femhroths, they overall do look like "a woman of the Hrothgar race" in the same way femroes look like "females of the Roegadyn race" or elezen females to elezen males etc etc
      I am fine with them

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Nah, pretty much every face except for one has an ugly flat face and the only one with a snoot has one more like a domestic cat rather than a big cat which it’s what they’re suppose to be.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      If they looked like the fanart that always gets posted or literally copied mithra from XI 1:1 I would've been satisfied and maybe even fanta'd to one but nah

  39. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Coils of Bahamut MINE was the most fun I've had in the game
    I wish I could have played it while it was current content

  40. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    No one had issues with the gay pandering until female characters started being excluded from everything.
    >It always was OUR game XD
    Wrong, you used to share it with others, now you have USURPED IT.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      mad af

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      The art of subtlety is lost in today's trolls.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Who's trolling now?

  41. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Dots were removed because every boss and their kids disappear for 10 seconds after every burst windows now

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Bosses in ARR used to still take DoT damage even while jumping, Twintania comes to mind.

  42. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I swear to fricking christ, does EVERY boss reposition themselves after 2s in Endwalker? I've been tanking it and it was never this bad in previous expansions

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yes they do, and I hate it from the melee perspective myself
      Run Thaleia or whatever from the new 24 mans and then run an old one, you'll immediately notice the difference

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yes they do, and I hate it from the melee perspective myself
      Run Thaleia or whatever from the new 24 mans and then run an old one, you'll immediately notice the difference

      Actually no, I'm still mad
      Almost every boss does a fancy teleport and repositions to the middle in EW and I hate it so much
      I seriously hate it, if you want to talk about homogenization talk about this

      Also mention how every fight opens with an AoE so people can smoothly do their burst mindlessly
      I remember Exdeath P1 opening with elemental AoE and stuff which was interesting to make work with positionals and whatnot

  43. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    t b h, bosses centering themselves started in alphascape

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      You can't say that it goes against the argument that old hard new easy.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        I mean it was still better than every single raid in shb and ew

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Stormblood was the start of the modern raid design philosophy. Stormblood did away with HP% phase pushes (meaning you will always see the exact same sequence of mechanics every pull, no matter how good your group is) and began with automatic boss positioning, but even Alphascape was not as extreme in terms of this as the game has gotten.

        "Old" actually means ARR-HW.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          Remember in A10S when you used to be able to skip a tankbuster early in the fight entirely if you pushed the raid's DPS high enough? Good times, good times.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          The devs listening to HW memes is the reason things are so shit today. Basically every issue with job design can be traced back to muh Fell Cleave and every issue with fight design can be traced back to skip soar.

  44. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I hate new Shatter, the matches take way too long

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      PVP is another thing EW ruined

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        SB*

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          SB was really bad at the start, ranged were way too good, but I'd argue late SB was the best frontline ever was.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >mfw I still need 54 wins in Shatter
      I regret not bashing my head against the wall for wins before the new map and now the new changes.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        why did they change it anyway, it worked fine for fricking years, all this shit did was make matches take longer

  45. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Scrolling through this thread, I didn't see any images of Yugiri. So, allow me to help, friends!

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      (Love for Yugiri will) light the way!

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        At the end of everything, I find Yugiri here. My wife.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      She fricks Garlean men.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        As per canon, that cherry remains unpopped.

        Who?

        The Ninja who joined us in the ARR patch content, and who fell in love with the WoL. You help free her nation in SB, and go with her to visit her parents in EW. She's the best.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          >As per canon, that cherry remains unpopped.
          lol

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            >hasn't seen hien in a very long time
            >hien is a moron and just her boss, and cirina is busy laying the moves on him
            >confirmed to like (You) at least a little in that one anniversary thing

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              >and cirina is busy laying the moves on him
              bold of you to imply Cirina isn't busy getting scissored by Sadu while Magnai cries alone

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                Cirina wants to get Hien in on it so they can rub him between both their pussies but Sadu wants literally no part of it because Hien is not the khagan and they only helped out on yol-back that once because the real khagan asked them to

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              >just her boss
              he's literally (LITERALLY) her king
              he says, she does, absolutely no exceptions
              >hasn't seen hien in a very long time
              they've been stuck together like glue since SB, she doesn't even join you for the Ilsabard Contingent because she couldn't bear to be away from her king
              learn to read subtext

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          >As per canon, that cherry remains unpopped.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Who?

  46. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Are the WoW babies gone? Can we talk about the game without posers complaining?

  47. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    i was promised the story gets good and now im at stormblood with my dickj in my hands and it still sucks other than an occasional cool moment every 40 hours

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah it gets good in stormblood. You'll know it's getting good when you teleport to another world after ghimlyt dark.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        It's funny because a lot of people think that (they are mostly women)

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      The Asian half of stormblood is good. The Mhigger half is entirely dependent on how much you like Zenos and Fordola.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Whether anon likes the ala mhigo half of SB is entirely dependent on whether anon is brain-damaged or not. If anon is brain-damaged and sympathises with mhiggers, they will like the worst half of SB.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          The Asian half of stormblood is good. The Mhigger half is entirely dependent on how much you like Zenos and Fordola.

          i've liked the gareleans more than half the factions since the start and the only part of ala mhigo thats cool is the lyse porn i browse on the other monitor
          i like that even one of the dialogue options lets me acknowledge that this story sucks

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            I can't imagine liking moronic evil comic book villains. If you like their tech or aesthetic, whatever, but as a faction? lol

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              their cartoon evil voice acting is trash but the fact that they believe humanity should be responsible for themselves while oneshotting all the beastmen gods with machinery was pretty cool

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            I can't imagine liking moronic evil comic book villains. If you like their tech or aesthetic, whatever, but as a faction? lol

            their cartoon evil voice acting is trash but the fact that they believe humanity should be responsible for themselves while oneshotting all the beastmen gods with machinery was pretty cool

            garleboos are just russia apologists that want their representation in game
            do you not have a trench you should be getting drone bombed in right now ivan?

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              Garlemald is ROME
              have a nice day immediately

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                Ah yes, Rome, famous for its ushankas and borscht.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                are you being serious

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                they're both imperialist rome AND imperialist russia

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                Ah yes, Russia, famous for its centurions and legates

                By your logic Ishgard lovers are France supremacists

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                As a Xaela player I've always wanted to rape China, Russia, Turkey and Hungary

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >As a Xaela player
                you can just say horsefricker

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                Fake news, she only frick little boys

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                Ah yes, Russia, famous for its centurions and legates

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                By your logic Ishgard lovers are France supremacists

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                It's true.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                Ishgard lovers are all monarchists and hardcore Catholics

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                Wtf I want to restore the house of Capet, Valois or Bourbon now, any will do! I will ever tolerable a fricking Hapsburg on the throne of France. Anything but that cringe french revolution shit.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                There's a pretty significant amount of regency roleplayers who use Ishgard as the stage for their romance drama RP and almost all of them are playing as noble philanthropists who hate the church and love diversity and gay sex.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                "hating the church" is not an uncommon opinion in ishgard

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >he didn't notice that the Dark Knights are actually Halone's most faithful
                They take out the corrupt trash so the church can function as intended.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                yes anon this is different from hating a church that regularly enables those bad actors, is currently corrupt from the top down, and was predicated entirely on lies (dark knights cannot know about the latter two until later into heavensward but they probably had a fricking field day with that information)

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                It is different, yes. The Dark Knights don't hate the church, they hate those who abuse the authority of the church.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                which is almost everyone within it, on a day-to-day basis

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >which is almost everyone within it
                Hello, story skipper!

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                lol sir aymeric was not a glowing representation of the church anon

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                EW's Magic DPS rolequest is all about the good people of the church getting fricked over because of the bad reputation the church has at this point.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                There's a whole storyline about him expressing how important the church is to the people of Ishgard and that bad actors within it don't diminish that importance and certainly shouldn't be cause for tearing it all down. There are also sidequests and levequests about the church supplying things like blankets, food, and kindling to the poor in the Brume. Or maybe you noticed how the DRK 30-50 begins with you killing corrupt temple knights and ends with you saving good temple knights because irrational rage against the church is just that?

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                You can tell by reading this post that this anon is still seething mad that his parents made him go to church when he wanted to stay home and play pokemon.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                Disgusting people

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                its a combination of both you dense motherfrickers

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                not enough Black folk and gay sex to include the american empire in that combination haha

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                Can you europoors go 5 fricking minutes without b***hing about america?

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >someone points out America is a shithole for of homosexuals
                >MUST BE YUROP
                lol
                lmao
                Now say I'm from a third-world country next, it's usually an amerifat's next cope.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >points out
                >America
                the european believes everybody doesn't know america is a shithole and presents it as new information

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                Garlemald is Rome in ARR
                Garlemald is Nazis in SB
                Garlemald is Imperial Japan in EW.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                And they were Persia in 1.0.
                What a storied history.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                And they were Persia in 1.0.
                What a storied history.

                tl;dr imperialistic societies behave pretty similarly in broad strokes and people go for the most immediate example they can think of

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                Ah yes, Rome, famous for its ushankas and borscht.

                They are Russians with Latin names.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                Like the other Anons said they're an amalgamation of Rome, Imperial Japan, Russia, etc.

  48. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    guys, my chocobo has started dressing like this, should I be worried?

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Please do not frick chocobos.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      All adventuring chocobos are males, Ishgard is the central chocobo supplier and hoards the females so that the rest of Eorzea can't displace them

  49. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'm playing ffxi to get ready for the next ffxiv expansion

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      don't be too disappointed when it's only barely related. the alliance raid storyline is always bare bones

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        the game is fun and I can scratch if finally from my bucket list once I'm done. After that only ff games that I didn't play are tactics and ff13 and 16 because its stuck on snoystation

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          I see. Well you will at least have fun with 11.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      enjoy yourself anon it's wonderful

  50. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Before Ishikawa:
    >The WOL is just some random adventurer with the Echo and blessed by Hydaelyn
    >Allagans were hyper-advanced through their own unique form of magitek, which has shaped Eorzea and the world in many ways
    >The War of the Magi was an event caused by the tension between very different schools of magic, and the effects it has had on the world are still plainly shown
    >Garlemald is a nation built upon Magitek, echoing Allag in the past an swiftly becoming just as much of a threat to the world
    >The Twelve are enigmatic and esoteric. What exactly they are isn't clear, and their interventions are often indirect
    >Hydaelyn is an even larger enigma, distant yet always there to grant her power to those who would be heroes
    >The Ascians are a cult of ancient mages worshipping a Dark God, manipulating and conspiring to cause destruction and mayhem
    >The Void is a distant world drowned in darkness, ruled by daemons who want to consume more worlds
    >Even with all these groups, the world is still dangerous and full of deadly creatues
    After Ishikawa:
    >The WOL is ACTUALLY the super special secrety reincarnation of an ancient, who was one of the leaders of the Convocation who became the Ascians, and who's job was about adventuring and he really loved adventuring and that's why the WOL loves adventuring. Oh and the ywere also bestest friends with Emet Selch
    >Allag was an Ancient's ploy to cause a Calamity
    >The War of the Magi was an Ancient's ploy to cause a Calamity
    >Garlemald was an Ancient's ploy to cause a Calamity
    >The Twelve were just Ancients
    >Hydaelyn was just an Ancient
    >The Ascians are just Ancients, their God was a construct they made, their actual goal is just remaking their old world
    >The Void was an Ancient plot to cause a Calamity
    >All the dangerous creatures in the world were actually made by the Ancients, none of them are actually natural
    Thanks miss Fujo. I'm done.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      I honestly can't take anyone who says shb was good seriously

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      You're not wrong, they demystified the setting and changed it. ARR felt closer to FFXI in terms of the type of storytelling they wanted to do but as time went on it's kind of become it's own weird thing, it's not been entirely classic fantasy but it felt closer to that whether as now it's all over the place.

  51. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    SEEEEEEEEXOOOOOOOOOOO

  52. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    as someone who thought EW was absolute ass in every way, does the next expac story seems like its going to be decent?

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      As someone who thought the same, I think it does.

  53. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I don't think I want to pay much attention to this post-patch MSQ, someone give me a rundown of 6.3.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      It sucks. It’s just FF4 fanwank all the way through.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Member the Weapon Story line? Imagine that but now its a voice acted MSQ story line instead. And instead of Gaius you frick around with Voidsent Hunter Z who is also a woman and was also Zenos' reaper avatar and Instead of Weapons referencing each of the Garlean generals its the Four Fiends and Golbez from FF4 only now they're voidsent from the 13th.

  54. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    show us your /playtime and when you started! Come on! Don't be shy!
    >340d
    >early ARR, 2.1 I think

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Total Play Time: 988 days, 8 hours, 1 minute
      Started mid-2.1, been on several breaks. XIV is my home.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >988 days
        anon I unironically think you should go outside

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          Now why would I do that? There's no good loot outside.

  55. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Christcuck alert.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Meekly unable to reply to the post he's seething about
      >Unable to actually address any of the arguments, just seethes about Christianity as if that has anything to do with a video game church
      Yup, that's a concession.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Damn this post nailed it

      You can tell by reading this post that this anon is still seething mad that his parents made him go to church when he wanted to stay home and play pokemon.

  56. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Everyone that has ever thought I was a weenie is one person.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      We vagueposting now bros it's real xiv hours!

      These are both me. I'm him
      I'm the guy.

  57. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    We vagueposting now bros it's real xiv hours!

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      It would be funny if Nashu became pregnant haha wouldn't that be wacky?

  58. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'm not getting (You)s or arguments anymore. Now we're really zivving.

  59. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Au Ra are canonically fricking terrified of these guys

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      If a horde of elephant men started bumrushing my little village for no fricking reason I'd be scared shitless too.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      I think it's EE3 that says that the Thavnairian matanga need a certain alchemy potion to be able to speak with all the other humanoid races without issue and their normal language is below human audible ran
      >Gajasura or steppe matanga are literally not able to speak with the au ra and communicate why they fricking hate them

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >below audible human range

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Then explain the Gajasura in the Hippo Riders Beast Tribe questline who show up from the Steppes and speak just fine, who couldn't have possibly have taken the supposed speaking potion.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          uuuh, echo or something

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      You know, not all xaelas are violent, some just want to live comfy lives, I doubt the Dotharls are afraid.
      Also the steppes elephants are way fricking bigger than the blue pajeets.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous
  60. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Only the unsundered can see this image.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Tomorrowchads…

  61. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Bros, are you seriously fricking telling me that Sharlayan would keep its council while the world is lost to ruin?!

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      enaulttluane

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous
  62. 3 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous
    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Fricking Lufenians

  63. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >never touched hildy shit
    >wanna get the ew relic cause it'll fit my DRG PVP set.
    >Start that quest chain
    >mfw

    Besides her thigh gap and ass. Is there any reason to not skip CS?

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Is there any reason to not skip CS?
      Yes, it's kino.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >AIIIEEE IS THAT A 1.0 REFERENCE XIV ONLY STARTED IN SHADOWBRINGERS!
      What even is your fricking issue?

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        the slapstick comedy falls flat in engine

        Captcha KHVWR
        frick you

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          It's not all bad, the elezen incel and Greg make it better

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Is there any reason to not skip CS?
      None, it's absolute garbage.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      I'll fricking kill you if you do.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      the hildibrand questline has made me laugh harder than any other game in existence besides tales of graces f.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        You must have the sense of humour of a five year old.

  64. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    When exactly did the whole mother crystal thing stop being a spiritual religion? It feels like they tried then stopp caring. I miss the cheesiness of it but also the whole spirituality aspect rather than everything being a spook.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      It was never a religion. People didn't even know about Hydaelyn or any mothercrystal until after 1.0 when the Scions went around telling everyone about it.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Then why does everyone say by the light of the crystal etc?

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          Because when they were doing ARR they wanted to make the setting feel more FF or something so they said the Scions had gone around telling all the important people about the mothercrystal and they all just accepted it. The Twelve are the real religions.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            They never had any crystal related stuff in 1.0? It's been a few years but that seems like a massive oversight for an FF game considering how thematically important it always is.

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              It might have been intended but there was no mothercrystal, just the aetherytes and the crystals used to summon primals. Hydaelyn was given as the name of the planet even back then but Tanaka said that the average person didn't know what the name was. And you still got the "Hear, Feel, Think" voice when awakening to the Echo. So it may have just been waiting to be revealed later down the line.

  65. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I've only done Thaleia and have no intention of ever doing it again.

  66. 3 months ago
    Anonymous
  67. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Got all 3 of these blue fish in one day and almost got a legend on my first window, also got the fishing relic.
    Did all the island stuff as it happened, got the 20 wins for the excite-o-tron but didn't do the new ones, and got the black mage relic

  68. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I gave away all my gil to a sprout and quit at the end of 6.0. Hopefully he is still playing, if not I hope he gave that gil away or something.

  69. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    A reminder that Gaius is perhaps the most thoroughly broken buck to ever live
    >Gaius is literally the only legatus that believes in meritocracy all the way until Gabranth is introduced in Stormblood-Shadowbringers, and Gaius holds to it much tighter than Gabranth does
    >even within his legion he and his immediate subordinates are the only Black folk that believe in meritocracy whatsoever and believe that the empire's glory is self-evident in a way that doesn't require, specifically, oppression and rape and enslavement
    >(and even that's not a hard thing with Livia being insane and wanting her adoptive father's wiener much more than she wants Garlean glory or meritocracy, or Nero caring about nothing but pwning Cid)
    >Ala Mhigo is still a shithole under his authority because he can't do all the policing himself, its only grace is it's better than it was under Theodoric and not by much
    >the very instant Gaius is assumed dead Valens is made head of the 7th Legion and takes over all of his troops and research, and aims for Werlyt to boot
    >filled his adoptive kids' heads with Garlean propaganda from his own heavily idealized interpretation of the empire and taught them to fight with everything they have for Garlemald's future
    >has to beg and plead with them to not follow everything he's taught them while it marches them to their doom under Valens
    >Varis embodies everything terrible about the Empire
    >not even capable of dealing any serious blow to the Ascians that fooled him into casting Ultima, he can defeat red-masks and take their masks but he can't kill them permanently
    >only allowed to stay in Werlyt and is only elected by the Werlyt revolutionaries because they don't have any better options for a leader
    >sole surviving adoptive daughter is mind-broken by everything that's transpired (Valens may or may not have used rape as a subjugation and brainwashing method but 100% used violence)
    >sits down for a portrait with his broken daughter and the holograms of his dead children

  70. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    As a healer main, I don’t want a gay dps rotation. If I wanted that, I’d just play a dps. I’d honestly prefer more support abilities /mechanics like cc, or even have overhealing give a damage buff.

  71. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Queue for expert roulette
    >A 10-15 minute activity
    >Dungeon takes 40 fricking minutes
    I will not queue up as dps ever again, I don't know how but the player base for this game has become even worse than what it was in ShB

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      European DC?

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        NA DC.

        shouldn’t take 40mins if the tank is double pulling, it takes 30mins with trusts

        The tank would single pull. The tank AND healer would stand in boss aoes and die. Even when the healer died the PLD tank would eventually die and not be able to self-sustain himself which I don't know how he couldn't do so when WAR, PLD, and somewhat GNB are green tanks at this point. I even asked them politely what they may need help with and I got no response. IT didn't help either that the other DPS was bad as well.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      shouldn’t take 40mins if the tank is double pulling, it takes 30mins with trusts

  72. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >shadowbabs will never off-tank Garuda or Titan EX on MNK using Fists of Earth, Featherfoot, and the enmity gain on Skull Sunder
    >shadowbabs will never solo tank Shiva EX on PLD to compensate for an incompetent off-tank
    >shadowbabs will never tank Titan EX on SMN
    And they think they're competent because the game design doesn't allow truly competent people to blow them out of the water. The current system is all about coddling the egos of stupid fricking tourists who don't like video games to begin with.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >shadowbabs will never tank Titan EX on SMN
      Meant Ramuh EX with Titan, of course, before some pedantic homosexual hyperfocuses on this.

  73. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I finally finished it

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Congrats

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Thank you anon

  74. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    i take back the hildy hate greg is pretty cool

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      for gilgamesh
      it is gregging time

  75. 3 months ago
    Anonymous
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      Anonymous
  76. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    is it me or are there a big increase of new players

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Gee, it's almost like the panel generated hype, thereby generating more new players.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      There's been a pretty consistent influx ever since Shadowbringers and most every update is another surge.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >since Shadowbringers
        why would someone just lie on the internet like that. There was a steady downturn post Endwalker. Took forever just to get into a simple guildhest when it really hit rock bottom at one point.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          It's been a steady upturn actually, its part of the reason why the chartposters have been absent for so long.

  77. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Been doing savage prog
    >Starting to really dislike the role I'm in because i just seem to struggle with keeping up on mechanics

  78. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >another expansion of ShB/EW job design
    I can't help but feel like the game wouldn't be circling the drain if you morons had listened to me all those years ago when I was calling out fflogs for the fun-killing cancer that it is

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >if parsing hadn't become a thing then we'd still shit job timers instead of having job gauges and support going dodo-mode

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        the gauges are also timers, don't fool yourself

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          They still are in a sense but it's more that the timer works the same way every time now instead of being even more influencable than a FNAF kid, to make timer number go up and shit as much damage as possible within that window.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          Gauges are essentially TP replacement that doesn't suck.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      FFLogs itself isn't a problem. The problem always lies with the kinds of people that use it for something other than it should be used for: as an objective measurement of performance and shortcomings and a benchmark for improvement.
      Percentiles were a mistake.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        yes, but how many times do people need to misuse the same tools in the same ways before we acknowledge that maybe not everybody should have access to the tool

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          As many times as necessary.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          I don't think that should be how it's framed; it's more, "if the intended purpose is that it's used as a personal high-score, but its practical purpose becomes being used as a global high-score, then who cares what its intended purpose is?" There's a name for this in relation to political machines I read once but I can't recall it off the top of my head.

          Essentially you cannot have a public number repository without it being treated as a leaderboard and it doesn't matter what you say it's actually for.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            idk what's the problem exactly. are you insinuating that fflogs directly contribute to job design atrophy, because that's 100% on the developers being incompetent

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              >are you insinuating that fflogs directly contribute to job design atrophy,
              No I am directly saying that FFlogs is not possible to have as a completely neutral tool under any circumstances, it's a public database.

              Though given the developers do have some kind of data-scraping on player performance and overall player impressions, I don't think FFlogs not being present would even have much of an impact on how the game developed, it just makes it easier for the devs to cross-reference the numbers they get on their own end.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                what is a neutral tool? what does that even mean?

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                We're getting off base, scroll up and look at the post I first replied to.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                bruh we're on an anonymous imageboard how the frick am i supposed to know which post you replied to? the very first post in the reply chain is blaming fflogs for the stale job design, which is simply misguided

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                I'll just point out the post which makes "what is a neutral tool" a very confusing question to even be asking:

                yes, but how many times do people need to misuse the same tools in the same ways before we acknowledge that maybe not everybody should have access to the tool

                >misuse the same tools in the same ways before we acknowledge that maybe not everybody should have access to the tool
                FFlogs being the "tools" here, and this was as a response to:

                FFLogs itself isn't a problem. The problem always lies with the kinds of people that use it for something other than it should be used for: as an objective measurement of performance and shortcomings and a benchmark for improvement.
                Percentiles were a mistake.

                >The problem always lies with the kinds of people that use it for something other than it should be used for: as an objective measurement of performance and shortcomings and a benchmark for improvement.
                Which is, as responded later, basically a non-sequitur; nobody cares what FFlogs "should be" for, what it actually is used for is as a leaderboard.

                I am agreeing he is moronic for blaming FFlogs and that trying to point to FFlogs for good or bad in its effect on the game is a waste of breath for everybody.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                there is no problem with having a public leaderboard either

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                I am agreeing with that too, there is no inherent problem in a public leaderboard and trying to point to a "real purpose" for it as a self-improvement tool is moronic.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >nobody cares what FFlogs "should be" for
                I care.

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              directly? no
              indirectly? yes
              yoship himself said they implemented the 2-minute meta specifically because """people""" parsetrannies kept complaining that cooldowns didn't always line up

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                you mean yoship deflected the blame to the players because he didn't want his team to take the heat for making bad decisions. if he's so subservient to player feedback, why the frick has he stubbornly stuck to the current healer design despite multiple people grilling him every fricking media tour about it? he and his team clearly have their own vision about how they want to do things and blaming other people for their frickups is disingenous. for better or worse, he is extremely protective of his staff, going so far as to say he doesn't want to make community events with the staff because he doesn't want them to face public pressure from people scrutinizing their performance, so of course he'd deflect to the players about the poor job design even though they are the ones with the executive decisions on the issue

  79. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    my class has steadily gotten better over the years. i guess i'm the lucky one

    looking forward to another step added onto red mage's finisher combo. just give us vermillion scourge

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Do you remember when WHM lilies literally did nothing? Good times

      >Finish ivalice questline
      >Reward is to juggle wine from one corner of Eorza to the other
      If i dont get a dialogue option telling my character doestn even drink ill be dissapointed

      You used to also help Matsuno's self-insert make bacon bread for his elezen waifu

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        getting a lily on a proc for gcd healing that reduced the mp cost of other gcd heals and was consumed > dark arts

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >You used to also help Matsuno's self-insert make bacon bread for his elezen waifu
        Yeah, the bit with Drest was nice

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      You don't play anything difficult where it matters, though? Just mash glare and the gameplay hasn't changed since ARR

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        if i want a challenge i'll learn a musical instrument, advance my career, continue my drawing studies, try and improve my mile run or take a math class at my local university

        i don't denigrate people who play video games for fun, but i do openly mock those who think the hardest challenges in mmos are even close to anything in actually difficult genres like rhythm, fightan, shootan, platforming or strategy

        i just wanna kill some dungeon dudes and have fun man

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          >typical shitter cope

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            yup, i'm not hardcore enough to wait for 7 other idiots to not frick up for 6-18 minutes

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              Based crabs in bucket stomper, never change. I bet you're actually fun to mmo with.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          I think they're pretty hard and different subsets of difficulty apply in different ways, testing some form of memorization, aptitude, endurance, whatever the frick. Hard games all challenge this in varied ways I would say. This is some strange cope for stuff you don't interact with, isn't it? I think it's easier to just say you don't care at all over applying some weird shitter analogy
          What do you even do that's difficult then? They all test the same shit if you want to get really abstract. You can do all this shit with relative practice too, they're just time investments like everything else in life.

          Yeah, I took your bait because I genuinely never understand the angles you take. You either don't have any true opinions for yourself or you just live being an amateur shit-stirrer because it's like 2AM and you have nothing else to do. Which would make the conversation beyond boring. You can literally have fun killing dungeon dudes and I don't judge people for playing the game simply, nor is anyone worth their fricking salt holding egos over the shit they clear, but I swear the way you type makes it feel like there's some agenda here no matter how small, like you got fricked in the past or just don't want to accept you can't do things that other people like.

          That's my psychoanalysis for the night I should just go to frickin sleep realistically

  80. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Finish ivalice questline
    >Reward is to juggle wine from one corner of Eorza to the other
    If i dont get a dialogue option telling my character doestn even drink ill be dissapointed

  81. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Endwalker Hildibrand was better than the EW MSQ (especially post MSQ)

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      HildiKino has also been better than the MSQ

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        hildibrand getting stuck in the ground will always be hilarious and you lack a soul if you disagree, the divine spark of the LORD is missing if you don't laugh.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          I seen a dodo bird eat him out while he was stuck like that.

  82. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    hly shit just end me its been 30 unsynced runs of Ultimas Bane and still no TT card drop

  83. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    schizophrenia thread

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      ejaculating onto this lalafell's scalp and rubbing it in

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      That's the fourth version of this image you've posted in this thread alone. You really are desperate to evade filters, huh?

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        You are strangely inattentive on what's actually being posted

  84. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Fiscal year on March 31th
    >Next livetetter is on March
    >They are going to say the date and open the preorders
    >They are doing this to end this year with great fiscal results and starting the year with good fiscal results
    Hmmmm

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      cool, something to look forward to

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >6.5.7 on February 13
      >PLL 80 on March 11, benchmark, release date, preorders, CE details, Yoshida holding up AF setr ender printouts, FF XVI event and Make it Rain campaign preview, media tour announced
      >6.5.8 on March 12
      >FFXVI crossover event in April
      >Media tour in May, PLL 81 on May 13, job action trailer
      >PLL 82 late June, launch trailer
      >DT launch July 2

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Benchmark won't be out anywhere near that early.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          >EW Benchmark July 11
          >EW release December 7

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            It's going to have the graphical update content this time anon, they aren't going to put it out that early because it's still being worked on.

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              i believe the opposite. because they are upgrading everything it would give their customers on toasters several months to upgrade their shit. they could hammer together a benchmark with just the stuff we've seen

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                It won't be done 4 months before launch and it's the most important thing to have in the benchmark.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                Anon, you underestimate what little time 4-5 months is in a dev pipeline. The graphics update is done, or should be unless they're delaying to Q4 2024.

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              This

              i believe the opposite. because they are upgrading everything it would give their customers on toasters several months to upgrade their shit. they could hammer together a benchmark with just the stuff we've seen

              From what we've seen at the Fanfests, the graphics update is 95% done with only minor adjustments. Zones seem done as well. They have all they need for the benchmark.
              Most of the work remaining on Dawntrail for the next 5 months is implementing content and testing/QA.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                They still aren't even willing to show us more than a single image of each race, it's nowhere near done.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >They still aren't even willing to show us
                That's what the benchmark is for, Jesus Christ.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                Yes, and they are nowhere near ready to show off the benchmark because...... they aren't done. I'm not sure why this is so hard to figure out.

                >Showed us the same amount of work from 6 months ago
                >Have shown us 2 AF sets and a tiny portion of the starter gear that has been upgraded
                >Have not shown us any zone work
                >Have not shown any new world texture work
                >Have not shown any lighting fixes

                Spending 15 minutes talking about a lala chin isn't getting us anywhere either. If you expect the benchmark to be more than 2 months before launch you are going to be disappointed.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                graphics update includes textures, i wouldn’t call it complete when it releases without all the textures updated and they’re going to take eons to go through all the old stuff

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                Yes, and they are nowhere near ready to show off the benchmark because...... they aren't done. I'm not sure why this is so hard to figure out.

                >Showed us the same amount of work from 6 months ago
                >Have shown us 2 AF sets and a tiny portion of the starter gear that has been upgraded
                >Have not shown us any zone work
                >Have not shown any new world texture work
                >Have not shown any lighting fixes

                Spending 15 minutes talking about a lala chin isn't getting us anywhere either. If you expect the benchmark to be more than 2 months before launch you are going to be disappointed.

                If that shit isn't done at this point, it's simply not coming at Summer launch. Yoshida delayed EW by two weeks for nothing but adding additional dialogue in Ultima Thule and doing the QA for it.
                If they want Dawntrail to release in Summer at the same QA standard they've used for 10 years then the graphics update, lighting, textures, zones, are all feature complete and in QA now.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                well yes, they said it will be progressively rolled out. we’ve known for months that it won’t be complete on dt release

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                i dunno anon. that guy is saying the lack of evidence being proof that it doesn't exist. he also properly punctuated and capitalized his post, and added fricking bullet points

                its also negative. which means its both correct AND it makes him a badass

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                I wouldn't be half surprised if it were this instead.
                >SE absolutely has to have a good showing for the financials this year, concerned about potential loss of users on toasters
                >roll out a benchmark showing people that are on the fence about computer upgrades for the new requirements that they can keep their existing shit, make them feel safe
                >get them all to buy and preregister the expansion
                >go live with 7.0 and the increased specs in place, game can't be launched anymore but frick you lol we already got your money

  85. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'm so glad I dropped ffxiv for eso. eso is just so much better in every way except housing

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Except housing? Can’t you buy multiple homes without risk of losing them if you don’t play?

  86. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >10+ years wasted on this game, 10 years you'll never get back.
    Kms

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah think of all the other MMOs I could have played instead, like BDO or New World.

  87. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    yeah I finished my mandervillous trident. And I cleared the bozja questline on my alt. (I no lifed for a week and got rank 25)

  88. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Started as Monk
    ditched it for Samurai
    ditched it for Dragoon
    ditched it for Reaper
    ditching it for Viper.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      based melee dps only playing mhigger. B frick the flames, serpent chads rise up!

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >people who don't do high-end content pretending they have a 'main'

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >being elitist about the easiest genre of games

        lol

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >being elitist about the easiest genre of games

        lol

        following a rotation and boss patterns that never change is hard guys!!!

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          Reminds me of people who pride themselves on mmo pvp but are too scared to play actual pvp games.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          >pointing at the enemy head and clicking is hard guys!!!
          >running faster than everyone else is hard guys!!!
          See I can use reductionism too. For what it's worth you're right, but if you're gonna be a disingenous homosexual about it then go get a new hobby.

  89. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    i wonder if they will fix the la creatura faces that no one uses like midlander face 2

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      No chance, same as changing giraffe necks and shit animations on Elezen. Yoshida will never risk the complaints from the handful of people who actually use the shit options.

  90. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Game feels really dead.
    I already regret resubbing.. but I still have shit to finish before DT.. frick

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