That won't stop the thread hitting bump limit, too many morons and disingenuous bait posters to bother having a discussion about the game, especially in this thread.
Nothing to discuss until fanfest drops this weekend. Besides predictions about it, which is always the same 3 points of femhroths, new Casting job and new Eureka/Bozja.
They increased the time between patches by 2 weeks and reduced the replayability of patch content compared to previous expansions. It also had a bizarre FOTM run a couple of years ago and the only people who stayed are roleplay-exclusive degens so the game as a whole feels a bit cancerous these days.
Yeah how can they possibly beat all the good dudes uniting against the evil dude like avengers and finishing up with a dialogue about their feelings and describing the morale of the story to the reader in case they are moronic?
>Blizzard has resorted to making roadmaps like a fricking kickstarter Early Access game
Every time I see a "roadmap" for a video game, it ends up being a list of things that get delivered a year late and in a worse state that was promised, or just never delivered in the first place. At least you don't have to pay monthly for kickscammer games.
Blizzdrones genuinely have something wrong with them.
It fools people into thinking there's a lot going on, when a lot of their patches are just "a questline got added and an old race got two more skin colors"
>3/6 of those entries are holiday events with wordswordswords cutscenes that last 5 minutes
lmao is this what passes for "content" in your ERP chatroom?
The story. It concluded. >b-but the Void, and the bazinga treasures you haven't explor-
I killed jobber Zodiark. I killed mommy Hydaelyn. Meteon is no longer depressed, and Zenos finally got the battle he wanted. It's done. I do not care.
Recent FFXIV job designs and XVI in overal just showed me how much yoship HATES rpg elements and player choices. I wouldn't be surprised if 2 expansions later all jobs will just have one attack button, one BIGGER attack button on a cooldown and generic job utility button. This guy might have """saved""" the game but he's really fricking out of touch and probably can't comprehend why people seem to like BG3 and other RPGs like it. Everything in XIV is also made with the mindset that you don't need to worry about grinds and yet he adds the most mind numbing boring grinds in the game that take absolutely not a single brain cell and yet feel like pure suffering because you can't get any single joy or satisfaction out of it. I think I've just played the game too much over the years but the game is so insanely predictable that expansions are just not exciting anymore. They absolutely fear taking risks and the risks they take are just small side content experiments that mostly don't go anywhere because giving any meaningful awards is a big no no except for a mount or something else moronic.
I'm honestly glad most content creators are shitting on it now because yoship really needs a wake up call. The constant ass licking people have been giving really made turned the game really fricking boring and sterilized.
>yoship HATES rpg elements and player choices
RPG elements and player choice don't work in an online game designed around high difficulty cooperative boss fights as their main content
Player choice and RPG elements mean cheese
Cheese means people easily bypassing the super hard boss fights you worked on for months
That's a no-go in MMOs
Simple as that
Yoshida stop defending your stale bread design that got mogged by everyone with final floppo 16 and design some fricking shit that is not designed by GPT4
Every single "raid" based online game is like this, it's not a problem unique to FFXIV, it's a problem with having to create a difficult, uncheesable PvE game, the nature of the genre itself imposes myriad restrictions on design because what the player can do is never allowed to leave the space of what the designers intended
On top of that if you start designing fights around having to be countered with specific class abilities like a regular RPG then you start having to swap players in and out of your raid between fights, and some players potentially having to sit out an entire raid tier if they play the wrong class
4 months ago
Anonymous
>Every single "raid" based online game is like this,
sure buddy, whatever you say
>GPT4
Come down buddy, XIV shit is GPT-2 level at best
lmao
4 months ago
Anonymous
Designing fights that require certain kinds of CC and kiting and what not is surprisingly a lot easier when your party sizes are bigger and a single raid mechanic can't potentially suddenly exclude half the roster of jobs from the fight, who knew?
4 months ago
Anonymous
Ok buddy whatever you say
4 months ago
Anonymous
You dont get it bro...you NEED to have items that less interesting than every game in existence...doesnt matter if they have bigger parties...smaller parties...raids...not raids...
IT DOESNT COUTN OK???????
4 months ago
Anonymous
Better itemization than every single xiv item... Sisters, not like this...
4 months ago
Anonymous
Sounds pretty cool AND you can visually see it just pop off when you press it
I've been playing 14 since Heavensward and literally no piece of gear has ever given you that satisfaction
4 months ago
Anonymous
shitty wording for >aoe skill >target gets bind >rest slow
and because its on a item its like getting a new skill and losing it again. The worst part however is they design their classes with gear in mind and then change gear so the classes stop working fluid.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>and because its on a item its like getting a new skill and losing it again. The worst part however is they design their classes with gear in mind and then change gear so the classes stop working fluid.
this. couldn't really put it any better
Yoshida continue defending your design because it works fine for me and the other people that have been playing your game for 10 years and don't want a contrived "le arpegee" system that amounts to a whole lot of nothing just so they can feel as though they're putting in thought.
I remember back in ff14 where you could get skills from other jobs on your main like e.x. you are a mnk and you could get blood for blood from drg iirc and people were seething about it because it was le hard to level up another job... Imagine having a static and wanting people some bare min. jobs leveled up and skills available so you could all raid together with optimal party combosition too... sovl
4 months ago
Anonymous
cross-job skills were cancer and anyone who promotes them is a boomer who has no idea what they're talking about
4 months ago
Anonymous
ah you were filtered as well. too hard to level up a second job back when it wasn't as easy as it is now?
4 months ago
Anonymous
>be you >grab something collectively hated by the community to nostalgiawank over >people call you out for being a contrarian moron >"heh... le filtered"
4 months ago
Anonymous
yeah dude cross-job skills were so much sovl specially when the best jobs didn't bring a lot of cross-job skills that mattered to begin with and then you have monk being a total trash job with having to borrow its damage from dragoon and warrior
4 months ago
Anonymous
dude no, I want to pick one job for it's aesthetic and level it up and if I find another job of the same role i want it to play the exact same as my main one. that cross-skill thing sounds like chore, i'd have to play the game to level up the jobs I'm going to need for optimal gameplay
4 months ago
Anonymous
You’re fricking moronic because you can’t force people to play other jobs to get cross class skill, glad they took that stupid shit away
4 months ago
Anonymous
>you can’t force people to play other jobs to get cross class skill
same way that you can't force me to recruit you or any other shitter into my static for not putting in any effort...
4 months ago
Anonymous
I don’t need that because I play with my fc
4 months ago
Anonymous
you don't need that because now it's removed thanks to shitters like you who cried about it.
4 months ago
Anonymous
next tell us all about how the loss of TP killed the real sovl in xiv and how anyone who disagrees with you got le filtered
4 months ago
Anonymous
NTA and i dont really care about TP but one of the reasons why the combat in this game is shit is resource managment
You look through half of the jobs and wonder why the frick there is a bar as you can not run of it.
>BROS I REALLY NEED TO TRACK MY DARKSIDE!
4 months ago
Anonymous
it didn't but is there a point to mp right now? do you even risk running out of it unless you are really terrible at your job?
now post the part where you just open your class discord and copy-paste the best build instead of actually making any choices
4 months ago
Anonymous
NO SHUT UP THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN LOOK AT ALL THIS CHOICEEEE (of which half can't be used because it's the inferior choice that your raid team/guild will consider griefing if you pick it over the superior one)
4 months ago
Anonymous
>open the balance discord >look up bis and melds
XIV isn't any better even with that itty bitty little choice it does offer.
4 months ago
Anonymous
he wasn't wanking off xiv's "breadth of choice and customization" thoughever albeit
4 months ago
Anonymous
Classes in WoW have different skill builds for mythic dungeons vs raids, and also have different builds for single target vs cleave damage optimization or different damage profiles for fights that favor sustained vs burst damage
The tradeoff of course is much worse balance and most specs being useless more or less by design, but that's just how things go.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>player choices are important >just look at all these different builds that other people chose for me
what's the point of your post again?
4 months ago
Anonymous
>humans share information >wooooow
Someone still has to actually figure these things out, you know
You could still figure these things out for yourself, the fact that you don't because it's too difficult says good things about the game's depth, not bad
99% of players just go to "x" website and import talents without thought. This is the same in PoE and every other game with "build diversity" that is total bullshit.
4 months ago
Anonymous
build diversity and customization really is just a cope. it leads to min-maxed builds, but just the concept that it could hypothetically lead to a whole smattering of individualized builds even if it never does in practice gives these people a hard pp
4 months ago
Anonymous
Depends on the balance. I've definitely played slightly less optimal builds before because they were significantly less of a pain in the ass to play and still did very well.
you missed the >don't work in an online game designed around high difficulty cooperative boss fights as their main content
part which is more than half the post
No, I didn't miss that part which is why I mentioned FFXI.
...anonchama...what you think the picture is from?
>check out XI's high difficulty cooperative boss fights >it's people standing around the boss calling out what they're going to use
wow... such difficulty
4 months ago
Anonymous
>how can it be difficult if they aren't mashing the keyboard??? >they're talking to each other? where's the cooperation???
Zoomer-kun...
4 months ago
Anonymous
>didnt list any
EVERY
TIME
4 months ago
Anonymous
>check out XIV's high difficulty "cooperative" boss fights >it's people standing around the boss doing their rotation and going to their preassigned spots
wow... such multiplayer...
Endwalker is just bad.
Been playing since ARR and I've never taken as long of a break before. And there's still half a year longer until the next expansion.
Inept boomer devs proven by their complete and utter failure to create even a simple comfy farming zone. The user interface is a complete disaster because it has to cater to the PS4 audience. Network is in shambles to the point you can slide while casting. Dripfeed content inbetween expansions.
The game has had basically the same content cycle since release, has one of the most outdated and archaic endgame gearing designs in modern MMOs, and hasn't made any significant or worthwhile feature or quality of life developments in its literal entire lifespan. The gameplay loop of today's FFXIV is literally the same as 2.X patches. It's insane.
It doesn't help that the game has had constant identity crisis and never knows who it wants to appeal to. Storygays? Casuals? ERPers? Raiders? The FFXIV patches are a fantastic example of why games need a leader or a team with a vision instead of just being a bunch of people that react to what players say. Players have no fricking clue what they want and absolutely do not know what it best for them.
>no exploration zone >deep dungeon kinda sucked >relic acquisition is awful and lazy as shit >island sanctuary turned out to be ABSOLUTE FRICKING GARBAGE >criterion dungeons turned out to be thoroughly underwhelming >the main story from 6.1 onward has been boring and mediocre >euphrosyne and thaleia were mediocre, but I'll give aglaia a pass for being pretty good. the gods plot twist was obvious right from the very start >pandaemonium was actually great. no complaints there >weapon armor design has been mostly a miss this expansion >the two minute meta has completely taken over class design >the increase in development time between patches makes downtime feel much worse >the patch formula has gotten so stale that everyone has started to notice it >fall guys collab exposed even to non-raiders how dogshit the netcode is and has always been
Endwalker started off so strong too, but its obvious that development for XVI took away a lot of the resources that went in to XIV, what for what? XVI fricking sucked anyway and was a commercial disappointment. Dawntrail has yet to show me anything to win be back over either.
>deep dungeon kinda sucked
that's being extremely kind
EO was fricking dogshit
so much that even DD addicted gays hated it and went back to PotD/HoH immediately
Thats the funny thing. Two years ago they got the opportunity dethrone WoW and they completely squandered it. WoW is certainly still not in top shape currently either, but neither is XIV anymore.
I'm honestly fricking baffled how they just decided to bot capitalize on it and instead leech even more money from it, pull more people away from the team to work on other projects, increase patch dev times, deliver the worst fricking content cycles and shit completely on the job design. What the frick were they thinking, starting to feel like they must be sabotaging the game on purpose. Imagine being given the opportunity to become a mmo killer on a silver platter when all the twitch ecelebs joined in and instead drop a big fricking turd on all your new players and give them the finger.
Nah. Right now feels like the worst time since the Heavensward lull. The Stormblood patches were actually amazing and kept interest fairly high, and Shadowbringers patches were decent and the game enjoyed the WoW exodus that happened in 2021.
What does that have to do with the pic? The only thing related is the WoW exodus stuff which explains the Jan 22 part, and I already explained the rest
The Four Lords had mechanics that were pretty new and novel to them, like the free-fall intermission during Byakko and the DDR game during Suzaku. Bosses had more mechanical creativity during SB, as opposed to now, where everything is mostly a rehash or remix of old mechanics.
homie are you kidding
Barba, zodiark, zeromus, rubbicante, hell hydaelyn lightwave are all unique >Muh rehashed ability
Savage fight would rehash ability left and right halfway into the fight, hell O12S p2 has 5min worth of mech stretched over 10. There is more effort put into raid mechanic today
It's not that mechanical creativity has gone down, it's the nature of said mechanics that has changed from HW/SB to now. SB had way more fast paced, reaction based mechanics. A classic example would be Titan Gaols which still filters people to this day. A more casual example is the Monster Hunter collab. Endwalker has way more slow puzzle solving mechanics that give you ample time to prep, even if the execution itself is tight. An example of a reaction based mechanic in EW would be Party Synergy, and for a casual example Barbariccia during Curled Iron.
If you read the interview with Mr. Ozma he did mention they are trying to move away from reaction mechanics, leaving less of them through the expansion.
>Right now feels like the worst time since the Heavensward lull
I saw someone do the math recently that showed that the 3.0 to 3.2 slog was like 200 and some odd days long and that we're like 20 days shy of it being that long since 6.4 and there is still at least six months left to go at a minimum with like 9 months being the most cynical timeframe. However bad people thought the lull in HW was immediately post release is gonna be nothing compared to this.
The Final Fantasy series has a bad track record of over estimating the amount of loyalty and control they have over their audience. They fall into the thought trap of thinking "we already have this audience base in our pocket and they'll keep supporting us out of obligation, so lets ignore them and try to bring in new people instead."
And then the series becomes less and less popular every year.
They had a golden goose with FFXIV and instead decided to ransack that game of its resources to make FFXVI for a completely different audience than either the traditional single player or FFXIV audience and it made no one happy and bombed.
SE really deserves to go out of business at this point.
>No expansion pack releases planned
LMAO DEAD troony GAME
Inept boomer devs proven by their complete and utter failure to create even a simple comfy farming zone. The user interface is a complete disaster because it has to cater to the PS4 audience. Network is in shambles to the point you can slide while casting. Dripfeed content inbetween expansions.
It truly sucks to play, every archetype job plays the same way with the exception of BLM which is the only class that actually is interesting to play, learn and master, with that being said i like middies.
It's funny how you these same doomthreads show up every time a new fanfest, patch or expac is incoming, and at the same time the positive OP threads get pruned by WoWjanny.
This isn't real
Please tell me your lying and this isn't what the FemHroth look like
You are playing me anon, you Black person- she looks so damn cute.
Of course a furgay is so unbelievably fricking dumb that he mistakes AI slop for official XIV art. God I can't wait for you freaks to throw your tantrums this weekend and then frick off forever.
Ive played XIV since heavensward and quit many years ago and I gotta say
Is Yoshi P and his team the worst team ever in gaming when it comes to making a roleplaying game? Seriously I have never seen an RPG that has as barebones of an RPG system as XIV and XVI its honestly fricking awful and it just saddens me that the gaming public pretends that he’s a good game dev
Name a single RPG that has more barebones RPG mechanics than XIV/XVI im waiting
"you're projecting" is an incomprehensible answer to that post yes
completely ignoring the sharty accusation is extremely funny
4 months ago
Anonymous
It's not at all incomprehensible, you just seem like you don't speak English. You accused anon of not playing MMOs because he's shocked at the lack of RPG mechanics, but in fact you revealed thay you don't play MMOs because the vast majority of them have very deep RPG mechanics that confound morons like you. And what the frick am I supposed to say about your schizo rambling about muh sharty? have a nice day you gibbering brown dipshit.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>the vast majority of them have very deep RPG mechanics
nta but
He's the biggest fricking fraud in gaming. Every other highly notable dev I can at least see the talent. Kojima is fricking weird and inconsistent but when he gets it right it's great. Yoshitpiss is a talentless fricking clown that's never played an RPG in his life.
As for RPG mechanics and shit, XIV has been total trash for a long while. But this is not the focus of the game. It's a casual MMO with some group jumping jack content thrown in every here and there and for that user base, the barebone shit they have is enough
I don't really get why people are shitting their pants at player numbers when it's still a higher playercount than most of stormblood and heavensward. The only reason shadowbringers was higher at this point in an expansion cycle is cuz of WoW shitting the bed.
There are less people actually playing the game because that playercount includes free trial nightclub gays and Limsa idlers who don't actually do any content aside from the occasional expert roulette.
Major storyline ended, post-expac storyline was super mid, overall lack of content (especially replayable content) after the main expansion other than a couple good ultimates, absolutely no content lately. Game will have a decent resurgence for the next expac if they don't absolutely frick it up
>4 tank classes >4 healer classes >5 melee DPS classes >6 ranged DPS classes >All play the same as the other classes in their role with small gimmicks
Why?
That's what I keep asking them, but "le job homosexual" mouthdroopers don't really ever have an answer, just rote "uhm it's the same because ACKCHUALLY IT IS, CHUD. YOU MUST NOT WANT THE GAME TO IMPROVE GO DANCE IN LIMSA REEEE."
bought it day1, hated it and stopped playing.
picked it up a couple of years later with dlcs and fixes. it was better than when i played it first, it was fun but it's not the game I'd pickup again, unlike other ffs i've replayed.
>unlike other ffs i've replayed.
List them. I've never played a FF game. When all the kids at school were going apeshit over FFVII I ignored them and thus missed out on all that shit.
I don't even know if I at this venerable age have the patience for a turn based JRPG anymore.
-FF4 : First I've played back in SNES (my cousin's) and then replayed it when it was released on psp with After years
-FF7 and FF8: Both back when they were hot and replayed them on pc like 5 years later from each
-FF10: Back in college I was playing it with my roommate (he mostly watched when he was smoking weed and sometimes I let him do some grinding). Months later one of his buddies fall on my PS2 and broke it and I was left with only a controller and a memory card and some unfinished games including that. Found it on steam some years ago and finished it.
-FF6: Played it after 4 back when I was too young to remember much of it. Replayed it and some other jrpgs (Breath of Fire 1/2/3, Terranigma, Chrono Trigger) when covid lockdown happened.
Played once:
-FF9: while I liked the game I don't know why I can't bring myself to replay it in a newer version maybe.
-FF12: filtered by the combat twice. Gave up somewhere in the middle of the story iirc
-FF13: didn't hook me and gave it up
Thanks for the listing.
Of the ones you've played, what could you recommend to someone in my position? I've got 10 and 7 in my cart for this steam sale. Dunno if I'll just get immediately filtered by the turn based combat however.
If the story is good, I'd probably preserve. Just jump into 7 because it's the classic? Heard that you get more out of the remake if you've actually played the original.
The 7remake is more of a sequel disguised as a remake. I can't tell if you'll enjoy the remake more if you played the OG but you'll surely understand more of the story and references. I'd suggest trying FF7 first. Story is better than 10's, I've found characters more interesting and in FF10 there's voice acting which didn't quite age well so you will encounter some cringe-worthy moments that otherwise should have different tone. iirc it's the first FF with voice acting. Both have different leveling systems and combat mechanics, I think 7's is the one with the more "first-time friendly" approach with materia.
Both are good choices to start and I believe either one will keep you playing for but I can't tell if you'll like turn-based or not, if you hate it you might end up giving up both games.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>The 7remake is more of a sequel disguised as a remake. I can't tell if you'll enjoy the remake more if you played the OG but you'll surely understand more of the story and references. I'd suggest trying FF7 first.
Thanks for the rec. Reading that and I feel that I must play the original first.
Well, 7 it is then. It's cheap now, anyway.
Thanks again.
4 months ago
Anonymous
No problem! Have fun! I really hope you enjoy!
Chances of getting fricked by rng rise enormously per ten floors.
It was a skill issue, he had every single pomander but panicked and didn't know what to use which is fairly common in your first runs.
MCH is really easy though, an average MCH player will only start actively avoiding señect mobs starting at the 171 set, everything before that you can just steamroll through with minimal care.
Monk has a very rough final set because at 60 your defensive options suck and you don't have a ranged option either, so it's probably a complicated choice of job for your first Necromancer clear.
Depending on your morals you can learn spinning and if you get good at it it'll make your upper floors much more accessible since it allows you to negate most damage.
Just read a guide about the floors from 100+ and damn, I expected a difficulty spike but wasn't expecting that much selective aggroing and resource management... especially when most recommended jobs are either ranged or have at least one ranged attack.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>selective aggroing and resource management
Don't be scared of pulling single mobs even at high floors no matter what the guide says. If you accidentally pull an Anzu you can still kill it if your burst is ready, or you can strength/steel to fight it and then try to maximize your efficiency for the duration of the buffs.
If you try to only fight the mobs that are rated as "easy" or "medium" you'll end up wasting a lot of time exploring and looking for that one mob you're not scared to fight. Just pull a hard mob and burst it down, especially as a job with a strong offense like monk.
4 months ago
Anonymous
I will give it a try, got nothing better to do and at least i already got the 100floor cleared and +99 gear. I'd do HoH or EO but I'd need to farm for gear levels first...
The slider stuff is via customizer+ plugin you need to look into xivlauncher and the plugin system to set that stuff up.
https://files.catbox.moe/78834r.zip if the trash thread is gone, there are 2 versions difference is the head proportions depending on the height your going for.
You either need to use another plugin glamourer to force yourself to be a midlander or race change / make an erp alt I dont care
There are two general trends the game follows in terms of player number decreases
1. A sizeable chunk of people cancel sub after completing MSQ and wait for the next expansion.
2. In general, post-launch sees a gradual decline since people either, burn out, get bored, want to play other things or have completed all the content they wanted to do.
This has nearly always been the case and is nothing new for FFXIV since Heavensward. The issue currently is that Endwalker post-launch content is lean compared to Stormblood's and Shadowbringers' respectively.
Also using Steam's numbers exclusively to determine player count, while a good aggregate, discounts people on console and those who use the standalone game service, so it's not totally accurate. I'd love if SquareEnix released their actual player numbers, but most companies that run MMO's are cowards so it isn't going to happen.
Where am I wrong? All endgame content they released is for Savage player. They don't want 'midcore' and casuals have mods to keep themself entertained. If they wanted to cater to that segment they wouldn't have turned Criterion into a playground for people to use their Savage gear on.
It was a skill issue, he had every single pomander but panicked and didn't know what to use which is fairly common in your first runs.
MCH is really easy though, an average MCH player will only start actively avoiding señect mobs starting at the 171 set, everything before that you can just steamroll through with minimal care.
i want to try it as a mnk, already cleared solo floor 100 but i had to try like 3 times because 2 of those attempts were invalid because of d/c... i guess it's going to be a nightmare
Monk has a very rough final set because at 60 your defensive options suck and you don't have a ranged option either, so it's probably a complicated choice of job for your first Necromancer clear.
Depending on your morals you can learn spinning and if you get good at it it'll make your upper floors much more accessible since it allows you to negate most damage.
He pretty much doesn't even have time for it now since he's just playing all the newest games. He barely even touches WoW anymore though, so if you wanna call that a win go for it.
It's the end of an expansion lull during an expansion with not a whole lot to do. Endwalker was a pretty bad expansion overall and Dawntrail will probably be the true telling point.
>asset that has existed since 1.0 and is literally in the very first cutscene of ARR >still vomit it out for almost $40 for absolutely no reason >Limsa slurpers still eat that shit up and beg for more rancid shit on a plate
What a game
what
what the frick
bdo's cash shop has infinite spending potential
this mount is a one time purchase that is account wide
almost everything in the ffxiv store is a one time purchase
bdo's store is continuous purchases over and over and you can easily spend hundreds of thousands of dollars
in ffxiv after about 3000 dollars you have everythingnm in the shop
>digging that deep >slapped in front of your face alongside the other $40 mounts and $20 gender locked outfits the moment you open mogstation or launcher
Based slurpbro
Merch that was sold at the fanfest was a plastic flower with interior lighting.
But because it represented the most emotional part of Endwalker, it's $60
I will never not be sad about that one because it is the only 4 seat mount that is actually immersive to the game world. Frick the car(s), frick the whale, that chocobo carriage is cool. Would have made for a really good 10th anniversary rewards, seeing that that is literally where everyone began.
Meanwhile the actual 10th anniversary mount was just a reused model that they didn't even put a mounted character model on. And despite the cope around the community, you are not turning into the Phoenix. You call it on a whistle like any other mount, there's no transforming animation, and the mount description itself says it's a familiar you summon. This game shit the bed in record time, it's unreal.
Yeah the 10th was completely inexcusable. Were they too busy with XVI or did the team just completely lose interest in XIV? FFS, we got this for the 5th anni:
Game lives and dies with its story but the two main writers are hacks. One got very lucky her Graha husbando OC worked well in ShB (the second attempt) but the other lead guy has never written anything good. These days the only thing people respond well to are tired Haurchefaunt memes and cameos from characters that were last interesting a decade ago (if ever).
my favourite part of that scene is the knights of the round member that impaled him just let the dramatic monologue play out
dude could've easily finished the WoL but hey, forced drama
The funniest part of Haurchefaunt's death memes is that they redid the scene when they added duty support to The Vault, and it's now yet another Alphinaud-focused scene where he gets all the closeups and tears. The iconic moment they constantly return to with references matters less to the WoL than it used to in the game itself.
>That was already answered in the fight. That attack gives a healing potency down debuff.
I am fully aware.
But people always went on about it, so they probably wanted to state it outright.
isn't that because everyone was always going "uhhhh why doesnt alphinaud just heal him lmaooo"
people used to make fun of the WoL's very understated reaction to haurchefant's death, that's probably why they chose to change it to alphinaud instead
>That was already answered in the fight. That attack gives a healing potency down debuff.
I am fully aware.
But people always went on about it, so they probably wanted to state it outright.
what killed ffxiv?
well my peanus weenus of course
my weenus peanus
hahaha my peenis
this is the biggest example of pottery i ever seen
Yeah but i want to know how the frick did this development happen
I guess its a combination of the only online game with representable graphics and no cheat detection?
>the community feedback is basically run by 2 people: > >>"Raidlogger el hombre poggies is that limit cut?" > >and > >>"I coomed to mare 23 times today and afked in limsa"
In late Stormblood several other MMOs shit themselves and their roleplaying communities moved over to XIV all at once. This coincided with the first modding tools for the game getting attention. Some moronss started selling mods which got the attention of Second Life mod developers. And everything has grown from that. The population explosion of WoW players in late ShB and their love of addons brought in a lot of explosive growth for mods too.
>people keep claiming that XIV has incredible porn mods >"XIV has fallen... it's all erp and mods now" >the mods are just posing and standing still to take a screenshot with a futa catgirl
wow... so this is the power of ERP modders
>"XIV has fallen... it's all erp and mods now"
said by neurotics who need something to blame for their ennui and erpmodgays are unlikely to even see any of their seething and scapegoating, let alone protest it
Mare litterarly shits on other ERP mods
also im not an ERP modder but >stand still and take screenshot
how the frick do you think most sex mod work you moron? Look what people doing with their skyrim sex mods they just go photomode and autisticly animate their character standing still
to take a screenshot in a prefect pose
>year 2026 >all glams are now modernshit or sci-fi >"IT'S OK BECAUSE LORE ACCURATE YOU CHUD! IMMERSE!" >no more job unique glams >no more role unique glams >so many glam plates >only use 2-3 of them for all jobs, maybe have 2 for holidays and a couple more for memes
They claimed artistic integrity was the reason they wouldn't do that. But my money is on there is a bunch of technical debt from development and it just isn't considered a priority.
yeah, probably
basically every malmstone reward glam is already heavily melee-oriented and those are job agnostic, and there's also other shit like mascot sets, bikinis, etc. that tanks can wear without problem
so the whole integrity thing goes out the window
>i have no hat and i must doom >it will always be bad nothing good will ever happen and even when something good is poised to happen i will just doom about it anyway
sad way to live
Yeah when he says "we're working on it" for 5 years and there's still no sign of progress anyone who isn't a cultist would realize that his word is worth nothing
>i have no hope for the future >everything they say is just a lie >but i will sit in these threads and be disgruntled regardless
misery really does love company
>i have no standards >you having standards is toxic the game doesn't need to be better >my chosen corporate best friend can do no wrong >the previous lies don't count they really mean it this time >i will sit in these threads and defend my best friend against any and all detractors 24/7 and i don't even play the game
Wild times on XI/v/
4 months ago
Anonymous
>me having standards means being a whiny, intolerable homosexual constantly crying about not getting things quickly enough for my liking and trying to make it everyone else's problems instead of just moving on and quitting something i don't like
inb4 >um ackchually i le love the game i've been playing since 1.0 believe me bro i just want it to be better its just that ew is so much worse than le peak shb you are the one who wants to ruin it!! something something limsa something something mods something something MUH BOZJER WHERES MUH BOZJER YOSHITPISSU
4 months ago
Anonymous
This blizzdrone rat is MELTING
4 months ago
Anonymous
yeah, the blizzdrone really is melting that people see through his doomtrooning
4 months ago
Anonymous
I've played this game long enough to know it improves when the community holds Yoshitpiss's feet to the fire. Meanwhile you're a blizzdrone convert rat who swarmed into the game on asmonghoul's heels and found a new heroin dealer and you're so used to throating corporate wiener and seething at anyone with standards that you don't know any other way to live. Please crawl back to your Californoid glowBlack person hive that you eagerly helped collapse with your lunacy.
4 months ago
Anonymous
homie you guys slop up HW, the worst expansion
hold feet to the fire my ass
stop projecting, wowtroon. go back to your treadmill simulator and stop shitting up our threads just because the woman within is flopping preemptively
4 months ago
Anonymous
Actually I slop up SB, the best expansion. But HW is a good example because the community brought torches and pitchforks after the 3.1 disaster and Yoshitpiss kneeled. If the same thing happened today "if" LMAO, we're in it right now you'd be here screaming bloody murder at people who want to know what the frick is wrong with these morons.
4 months ago
Anonymous
You know nobody buys into this bullshit, right? I know you WoWgays are all trannies and therefore adept at gaslighting and all, but you'll need to try a new angle.
You see, no matter how hard you deflect, the self-evident fact remains that we can literally see you providing no criticism other than "the endtimes have come yoshitpiss always lies, there is no point to anything."
This LARP would work if you were actually offering genuine criticism, not just shouting people down who do have an interest in what comes next and insisting that they abandon all hope because of some gauche doomsaying.
4 months ago
Anonymous
Legitimate criticism is offered pretty often and you shout it down like anything else. And yeah, pointing out that he has said the same thing in the past and failed to follow through is legitimate criticism. It's just that there is no legitimate criticism for you because you are deranged and the truth is you have no interest in the game at all. You don't care if it grows or flounders as long as the 'idea' of the game exists for you to profess worship to.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>Legitimate criticism is offered pretty often and you shout it down like anything else.
Nice straw-argument based on nothing but your convenience.
Again: we can literally all see you're not some font of useful criticism, you're a yawning, gaping abyss, exuding nothing but tweenage angst and jadedness, attempting to stifle genuine discussion of the future of the game with rote, dismissive cynical soundbites about how nothing will ever improve and how anyone who actually likes the game is anathema to it. You don't add anything. You only detract. This is why people don't like you, don't engage with you in earnest and aren't interested in anything you have to peddle; there is no merit to it, and it doesn't inspire anything but dreary, sullen circlejerks. >You don't care if it grows
I do care, actually. Growing too much has proven to invite cancerous tourists like yourself who just want the game to become like the game you left behind, like Muslims leaving their country behind because Islam ruined it, only to move to a western country and demand it cater to Islam.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>Nice straw-argument based on nothing but your convenience.
There's no strawman, we can see you acting this way in this very thread. In this very reply chain. >rambling pseud wordsalad
Anyway >Growing too much has proven to invite cancerous tourists like yourself who just want the game to become like the game you left behind,
lol, this is my game. I was here from day one, when you were on the blizzard forums laughing at "LOL FFXIV 4.0!!!" Which is why I know that this game's revival was founded on the idea that sometimes developers are fricking morons and they need a fire lit under their ass. Everyone but blind cultist homosexuals like you can see the glaring problems going on with this game right now. And they can be fixed, but first morons like you need to frick off and go back to the shithole you came from instead of blocking the devs from criticism. There's nothing the devs can do wrong in your eyes because, as you've already admitted, you don't care if they do anything right in the first place. You just care about having 'your' little space where you feel special because you take first place in the Yoshida dicksucking contest and when the servers have been condensed to a single data center and you log into Limsa and see nobody else except the last remaining multiboxer dancing in front of the market board you're gonna feel real proud of yourself for your loyalty.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>There's no strawman, we can see you acting this way in this very thread. In this very reply chain.
You provided not a single mote of relevant criticism, so no, you didn't. >Anyway
Oh no, anon can't refute it. Nevertheless, it stands: nobody wants to deal with you because you have nothing to provide, nothing to add, no insights to grace us with. You're nothing more than an oozing well of negativity. And here's the thing: people have no interest in propping up your delirious, hyper-pessimistic delusions just to make you feel better. They want to talk about things they're interested in, that might be fun, or that they would like to see evolve. Not constantly deal with Harry in the corner wanking himself off to how much of a downer he's being and how much higher his IQ is because he <doesn't enjoy thing>. >Expects me to pay heed to the rest of his diatribe when he deliberately ignored the part that perfectly described him exactly because he can't tussle with it.
4 months ago
Anonymous
Not reading all that but it seems based, nobody likes whiny homosexuals even normalgays would rather cry baby little b***hes just nut up and kill themselves
4 months ago
Anonymous
>You provided not a single mote of relevant criticism
Well there was the whole thing about how you started jacking off because Yoshida said Viera hats were coming and then people who have played the game longer than you let you in on the fact that he said the same thing 4 years ago and you started melting down. But there's also your brief meltdown about Bozja too. >Oh no, anon can't refute it
There's nothing to refute in your masturbatory pseud rant about the man in your walls. >You're nothing more than an oozing well of negativity.
You're not special or intelligent for having no standards. I do enjoy the game, which is why I would like it to actually improve instead of having it cut corners and stagnate as it has been doing lately. >They want to talk about things they're interested in, that might be fun, or that they would like to see evolve.
Things like... Bozja? One of your many trigger words for the past few months? How about job design? I'd like if that evolved, but again that topic sends you into a frothing rage.
4 months ago
Anonymous
Yoshida bozjan job cultist bozja chatGPT shitter mad
4 months ago
Anonymous
Thanks for proving my point.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>Well there was the whole thing about how you started jacking off because Yoshida said Viera hats were coming and then people who have played the game longer than you let you in on the fact that he said the same thing 4 years ago and you started melting down. But there's also your brief meltdown about Bozja too.
So yes, the usual hapless doomsaying that provides not a singular scrap of useful information other than "just give up bros hes always lying game is shit" >There's nothing to refute in your masturbatory pseud rant about the man in your walls.
Roundabout way of crying that it doesn't count because you don't know how to counter such a pointed and brilliant description of what you are and how little your presence actually adds to these threads. >You're not special or intelligent
I never said that. That seems to be your sore, aching ego and conscience crying out to you. Got a complex? >for having no standards
Yes, that's always the cope, isn't it? People can't enjoy what you don't enjoy, they just don't have any standards. >I do enjoy the game
Sure struggle to see it, with how overwhelmingly you seem to want to peddle mindless doomsaying. You'd think someone enjoying the game would have something positive to say about it, its developers, and ways in which you want to see it improve. Not just "game bad yoshitpiss sucks they always lie abandon hope." Again, this is why people see through your LARP: it's pedestrian. It lacks versimilitude. Rather than flagrantly doomposting and getting mad that people see through it, try to polish your approach a bit so that you at least come across as someone who might distantly actually enjoy the game. >One of your many trigger words for the past few months?
Speaking of "man in your walls", lmao. >How about job design? I'd like if that evolved, but again that topic sends you into a frothing rage.
Anything to add other than the tired "job homogenissis bad yoshi kill game 1-button play all jobs same"? hyperbole
4 months ago
Anonymous
The pretending to be a deranged white knight cultist strat is working spectacularly to kill discussion sister, keep it up! LOK'TAR OGAR!
4 months ago
Anonymous
Deranged is thinking anyone will enjoy your cry baby homosexual strat, or even believe your larp that you’ve even played the game
4 months ago
Anonymous
ever consider that we're just not that interested in hearing the 999th shitpostxiv/talesfromdf-core take this month about how healers need more buttons, how bozja is the soul of the game and how all jobs are identical? if anything is homogenized, it's the criticism
it's been discussed to death
let us talk about things we're looking forward to in peace instead without you constantly haranguing us and trying to make us hate the game the way you do
4 months ago
Anonymous
Ever consider that nobody gives a frick what you think and that if you just want blind dev masturbation you should frick off to anywhere else?
4 months ago
Anonymous
My man the entire reason you’re the sole one here spamming your chatGPT slop is because nobody cares about you
4 months ago
Anonymous
>if anything is homogenized, it's the criticism
it's ok when jobs do it
4 months ago
Anonymous
This t b h. >Today, I'm going to talk about what I'm looking forward to from JP FanF- >Cultist, it's 4PM, time for your obligatory hourly repetitive "endwalker died because no bozja and streamers are leaving you should be quaking in your boots!" """"""discourse""""" >Yes honey...
4 months ago
Anonymous
But what about Kate ERP
4 months ago
Anonymous
kate has pronouns on twitter and thats why the game is dead
thats all i know
4 months ago
Anonymous
kate has pronouns on twitter and thats why the game is dead
thats all i know
She's out of a job LMAO
[...]
4 months ago
Anonymous
>try to talk about my fears regarding the game's current course and how I hope Dawntrail remedies the glaring problems >"FRICKING STOP IT NOOWWW!!! STOP STOP NOBODY CARES SHUT THE FRICK UP WE ARE HERE TO STAN YOSHI-P THIS THREAD IS FOR POSITIVITY SHUT THE FRICK UP I DON'T WANT TO HEAR IT STOP!!!!"
4 months ago
Anonymous
Don't reply to me. I've no interest in you. Go jack off in your own little corner if you want.
4 months ago
Anonymous
Wow, negativity much? Talk about things you like, not things you don't like....
4 months ago
Anonymous
I will. Stop squawking in my ears.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>lol, this is my game. I was here from day one,
bro me too bro all these newbies wouldnt get it its so easy bro we just need a good game director to save xiv a game director who knows that what the game really needs right now is a treadmill tied to repeatedly running dungeons on increasingly higher levels of difficulty that are solely based on the health pools and damage output of the bosses going up. its so dumb that all these endfetuses dont understand what we really need and what we were promised criterions would be
4 months ago
Anonymous
I like how this troony has been mindbroken nobody buys his shitty larp
4 months ago
Anonymous
Look man Yoshitpiss said literally the exact same thing about limited race hats when ShB launched over 4 years ago and no amount of deluded Blizzard forum tier cope is gonna change that.
what killed it for me was they dumbed the classes down too much where it was no longer fun to play. I'm a healer and my dps rotation was literally 1 button spam for 80% of it
>Its just back (and has been) to the numbers it had before assmongoloid played it for a week
Great. Maybe his orbiters can frick off with him so we can stop having these twitch zoomer threads.
Anon, don't try to reason with the wowfugees. They only started late ShB and 1. didn't experience the drought between expansions because EW was already close/released by the time they caught up, and 2. didn't experience any other expansion before and just assume that every expansion experiences as much end-of-expansion engagement as the one that got an impromptu activity injection by a wowfugee exodus and the streamer celebs surrounding it that the handful of minor xiv ecelebs were too busy courting/hosting.
FFXIV x WoW collab when? >The most popular wow raid as 24 man in xiv >LotA/ST/WoD combined as a wow raid >Limited area for ERPers, Goldshire for ffxiv and Quicksands for wow >Chocobo mount for WoW, Lich King chocobo barding for XIV >Omega pet for wow, deathwing for xiv >Glams >boss fights
hopefully not as bad as EW if wowgays are as good as their word (they aren't)
this game would benefit from being a bit smaller, because every mmo with too big a community (and too large of a portion of a certain type of mmo-player) turns to shit
reject online mmo wars and twitch zoomerisms, retvrn to comfy
the astroturfing is over and done with, all the WoWchads brainwashed by their surrogate friends (i.e. e-celebs) into trying it have already tried your ERP chat room and gone back to the actual videogame. you probably won't even have queue times at all.
Sorry, I meant the duty queue times, since nobody likes playing healer anymore and they're adding 2 new DPS jobs next expansion. It'd be hilarious if the new DCs and worlds are still empty next expansion though.
the astroturfing is over and done with, all the WoWchads brainwashed by their surrogate friends (i.e. e-celebs) into trying it have already tried your ERP chat room and gone back to the actual videogame. you probably won't even have queue times at all.
It's been two months since 6.5
6.55 still weeks away
Promised XVI collab hasn't happened (why announce it at an earlier fan fest if it's going to happen after the next one)
Promised bringing back of Yo-kai Watch etc events haven't happened
No one liked Fallgays
No one played the island or variant dungeon updates
>(why announce it at an earlier fan fest if it's going to happen after the next one)
Because they didn't have the preview for the lifestyle content prepared like they intended and needed to fill time in the keynote.
The ERPing bozjan yoshit hat cultists with the limsa homogenization standing and resolving in their mare exploratory content have been here since 1.0 ITS MY FRICKING GAME
Anyone else have a long-time friend group slowly evaporate from 6.0 toward 6.5?
Me and my friends run a guild, and we've been together atleast 3-4 years by now (I'm bad at visualizing time so I don't know exactly, but its a point I can't imagine playing without them). And like, Endwalker started off really hype for us! But golly, it's like every patch that came in it felt like "Okay nothing new for us to do".
One of my friends were super excited for relics...then their relic was just a tome buy. Another friend was super excited for criterion dungeons...then it's really just a choose-your-own-adventure that you do once. Then I was excited for Island Sanctuary...but then it was just kind of an idle game without the idle part.
I guess you could call it burn out, but we would take multiple-months breaks between subbing just to comeback for like maybe a week and thinking "Yeah this ain't it". I think the most fun we'd have was when they finally added deep dungeon, but we didn't even do that too often just because its a nuisance to organize compared to other content.
I don't really have any grand conclusions or statements about FFXIV, I'm just wondering if anyone else has a similar experience and if it's just me or just how the game is currently.
Me and my friends still talk and stuff, just not really about FF or on FF.
https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxivdiscussion/comments/174pd7h/anyone_else_have_a_longtime_friend_group_slowly/ >doomtrooners plucking posts off reddit again
holy desperate
I talk about Morrowind in Skyrim threads. And I talk about Final Fantasy, Final Fantasy II, Final Fantasy III, Final Fantasy IV, Final Fantasy V, Final Fantasy VI, Final Fantasy VII, Final Fantasy VIII, Final Fantasy IX, Final Fantasy X, Final Fantasy XI, Final Fantasy XII, Final Fantasy XIII, Final Fantasy XV, Final Fantasy XVI, Final Fantasy Tactics, Final Fantasy Tactics Advanced, Final Fantasy Tactics Advanced 2 - Grimoire of the Rift, and World of Final Fantasy in Final Fantasy XIV threads.
Ya seethe?
He unironically should. It has more players than XIV.
yeah exactly go frick off to a different game i'm not even saying this as an insult or to offend you just go enjoy something else
>"only eso has items that are beyond stat stick"
are you xiv brained monogamer? Is this post bait
I refuse to believe someone can be this inbred
>go play ESO or something >or something >ONLY ESO
i wonder if some of you just try to be as annoying as possible, it's no wonder you hate the social aspect of xiv who the frick wants to hang out with a lil b***h homie like you?
>i wonder if some of you just try to be as annoying as possible
argumentative*
but yes, it does really seem like there are too many people with too much time on their hands and a stick up their ass here
contrarian can work, but contrarian is kind of predicated on the idea that someone is deliberately taking a contrary position to the popular consensus simply because it's the popular consensus. argumentative is more neutral; just referring to someone who argues with people for the sake of arguing, not with any greater point to it
4 months ago
Anonymous
i dont believe contrarian is tied to consensus.
latin contra =against, so someone who will oppose anyone just for the sake of opposing. It includes the intention already while "argumentative" lacks the purpose/motivation behind arguments.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>a person who opposes or rejects popular opinion, >opposing or rejecting popular opinion or current practice.
it's funny, though, that we're being argumentative about argumentative vs contrarian
>it's no wonder you hate the social aspect of xiv who the frick wants to hang out with a lil b***h homie like you?
nooo it has nothing to do with me being an unlikeable caustic sperg, it has to do with real social interaction being uhh... for limsa trannies! the only good social interaction is "lf1m [dungeon]" for 2 hrs and calling someone a slur for not being as efficient in faceroll content as you want.
First, xiv moron, your game is full of glowBlack persony like a cheap korean game.
Second, esl chama, that not what "beyond stat stick" means". Its about abilities
i havent played it (nor will i ever) but im sure people are still coping that its the start of their epik kino bazingo bingus classic+ that will save wow
I'm not sure what this image is supposed to convey. There was a giant spike with an expac release period and then it returned to a fairly high and consistent line? That's incredibly good.
something something twitch views, something something mmo console wars something something my mmo beats your mmo something something did your mmo just lose a small portion of active subscribers it's so fricking over end of service next month we win my game wins
If I wanted to play a single player cinematic game with no RPG elements I'd go play whatever sonyslop just came out instead of subbing to an mmorpg and whining until every last bit of rpg elements were cut out, but here you are.
Just realize that you are making this argument in an MMO that is practically infamous for being extremely light on its rpg features since the start.
I don't like a bunch of arbitrary rpg elements in my MMO that only provide fake depth and more often than not amount to nothing but an annoyance, so I play the one MMO that goes out of its way to cull them.
You like a bunch of arbitrary rpg elements in your MMO, and you play the one MMO that goes out of its way to cull them instead of the bevy of other MMOs that do exactly what you want.
????
Quite literally nothing I played the game since the ALPHA.
I personally play every other patch for 2~3 months and then quit.
Square decided on this when Stormblood came out. And thats that really. We can't change it. It's still a good game but content will be basically more of the same with different visuals.
I personally play it mostly for the story these days.
Lmao PoE gays are insufferable. >Leagues of unnerfed MF and LA/TS shit >HH and MB horrible for the game >no new ubers forever >trade league chock full of rmt >La/TS/aurabot gays superior, nothing comes close. go run defiled cathedral 24/7 so you can get mb and quit 2 days later
Anyone still playing Chris's wild gambling ride is insane
>nooo why even bother to add any choices or options, everyone will just use the best one (even though in many of those games people still try shit despite being suboptimal)
It's like those people that say "noo why would I even play fighting games/ comp shooters, I'll just lose haha why bother". I don't know why that just pops up into my head.
not really analogous
one is an inevitability as a course of dealing with other people in an online environment who will want you to be as optimal as possible
the other is just basic defeatism
No you're completely right. It's just that for some reason the two are ringing together in my head reading this thread, where usually they don't. Sorry for being weird anon
I know this is a shitpost, but it's unironically true.
If you don't like the very foundation of a game, why play it over the ones that you do like? Why would you expect it to change fundamentally to cater to (You)?
>shitpost
how is it a shitpost when it's true
you don't like counter strike and prefer call of duty? good, you go play call of duty and you don't tell counter strike players what their game should be like
it's a basic concept to just try things and enjoy them if you like them and leave them alone if you don't
like would you watch a nolan movie and then go "wow this is too melodramatic" and tell nolan to change it up because you didn't like it?
you can draw many examples from that and you even get people like
>saying bad things about Blizzard means you play rival game
I have never installed XIV, see a doctor
in these threads like what's the purpose?
so many mmos and you need to try to change the one you don't even play or like?
wowgays should have kept their mouth shut when they came over during shb because whatever change they suggested and was applied was terrible and now people blame the devs for listening to the shitty players
>it's a basic concept to just try things and enjoy them if you like them and leave them alone if you don't
You would think so.
Clearly, that concept is beyond mmogays and Ganker.
4 months ago
Anonymous
that's why the /vg/ threads are unironically better at least people play the game and enjoy it in their own way you even get people hosting pf parties
these Ganker threads are already beyond salvation
Player choice is picking up the role they want to play and to a specific job lesser extend.
Build is made from devs so players won't have to waste time thinking about it. Just get the higher ilvl item, clear shit and then go show off weapon on limsa while being /afk.
good xiv is worse than wow now all the wowgays can go back to there and stop talking about xiv or demanding that xiv caters more to their wowbrain sensibilities
You first. Your 4-8 player content isn't even Massively Multiplayer. Hell it's barely even a game, more like an ERP chat room. Massively Multiplayer Online Role-playing Game? More like just an Online. That's it. I'm going to starting calling FFXIV an Online, because that's the only correct word when calling it an MMORPG.
Pretty sure if I posted the stuff that has 100+ player stuff you would b***h about it not counting. Your post is pointless and you should have a nice day
Nothing. It's the same lull as always between patches and expacs except with more seethe from WOWgays as an aftermath from all the trolling done during their latest failed expansions. (wasn't really worth it imo since most of them are just fadchasers who don't care about the game they're playing)
The real depressing part is that these "people" are probably here to stay. Bouncing between WoW and XIV when one looks to be more active than the other.
We are doomed, but not in the way doomposters imply.
no revisionism here
wowgays are cancer
and now that they caught the scent, they'll use xiv over and over again to tide them over while waiting for wow to release a thing
>Meanwhile wowgays provably are the ones that requested Criterion, the only good content in endwalker
I take wowgay feedback above xenos and erp troony feedback every time
4 months ago
Anonymous
wowgays are melting down that their muh criterion isnt m+
nice try though
4 months ago
Anonymous
How does that disprove what i say? Are you ESL?
4 months ago
Anonymous
He is still right tho, the ones that requested 4man dungeon content was Baldmangold and Richthelala rapist
meanwhile """comfy""" ERP homies requested islands and xenos cried for 4 years about "gib ultimate"
4 months ago
Anonymous
Irrefutable
4 months ago
Anonymous
He is still right tho, the ones that requested 4man dungeon content was Baldmangold and Richthelala rapist
meanwhile """comfy""" ERP homies requested islands and xenos cried for 4 years about "gib ultimate"
lashing out and seething at other games is the only thing that can distract them from the situation of their own game
don't begrudge them their desperation and fervor
>the situation of their own game
Shadowlands has proven that Blizzard can take a massive diarrhea shit on their own game and it will STILL be the king of MMOs. Cope.
I don't get it. Wasn't I supposed to take a break after I finished everything I wanted to do? I'll come back for a couple of months for the final Hildibrand story and to grind the weapons, then I'll take a break until Dawntrail.
WoW has troony NPCs. XIV has troony players. You can ignore tidbits like this, you can't ignore the HRT-addled drama queens harassing and stalking you.
literally other way round.
you have to play the troony wow quests.
You dont have to play with troony players.
They even filter themselves for you sticking to lgbt guilds.
>can't ignore troon NPCs. your sub fee directly goes to the troons working at blizzard >can ignore and even completely erase troon players from XIV
this is an obvious blizztroon L.
>harassing and stalking you.
I have literally never interacted with one in 5 years.
I guess you might find them if you AFK at Limsa for eight hours a day but you can't be surprised when you find mentally ill attention prostitutes in the mentally ill attention prostitute containment zone.
I dunno I assume Blizzard shat their diapers again or something because that's usually why w*wgays double up on their seethe at XIV and other games they consider an enemy to theirs.
I wish I could pretend to be shaken up by that revelation.
Turns out repackaging classic+ with some toddler tier hamfisted "retail ability"-scavenger hunt minigame didn't have that much longevity.
I wish I could pretend to be shaken up by that revelation.
Turns out repackaging classic+ with some toddler tier hamfisted "retail ability"-scavenger hunt minigame didn't have that much longevity.
The instant it was revealed it would be gating leveling into brackets was the biggest red flag imaginable. It was >ok how do we get people to resub multiple times for 2-4 days of le streamer HOYPE
Like it’s a pretty smart scam. Get people to resub for 1 week of content, then do it again in le season 1 part 2 or whatever. You don’t even need to make a whole new league like any other fricking game that does seasonal gimmicks, just arbitrarily haunt progress.
>ok how do we get people to resub multiple times for 2-4 days of le streamer HOYPE
That's probably exactly what it was. Staggered level bracket releases so they can "soft-rerelease" SoD several times and artificially pump up the numbers and "hyep"
Same thing with wow threads really. XIVgays have one hell of an inferiority complex. XIV's story as of 6.1 isn't even worth bragging about anymore. Yeah it's better than whatever the frick Dragonflight was trying to be, but thats not saying much.
What threads, wow is legit dead. There was more yesterday with some pajeet bumping it everytime it was about to be archived. Had like 120 posts in 36 hours
the last time I felt that xiv was an MMORPG was early EW when people were doing those big boss FATEs in Ultima Thule and Thavnair and that wasn't even close to Bozja or Eureka...
shut up b***h homie you say it was the last time it felt like an MMORPG when you were just sitting in the corner being quiet maybe at most your stuttering ass said "l-l-l-lfg" and then you went back to doing your thing which was being a loser
true sister! me and 3-7 other homies are already considered lots of people to be considered Massive! Massive like our dicks, am I right straight non-troony Black folk?
When 1.0 failed, they wanted to make their money back. so, they recycled more assets from XI, and took elements of WoW and other games that were doing well.
What they ended up with, is a global chatroom for a co-op game with a focus on the story. The gameplay works, but it's the same things you'll find in toys for little kids - it's memorising your rotation, doing it in every single fight for around 20 minutes, and sometimes having to remember to move or click somewhere. It's very easy for people who don't play MMORPGs - games that tend to take a lot of time to understand, to play this one.
We used to make fun of XIV a lot, lot more on Ganker. Even back then, XIV was popular with morons. Your progression even back then, was held back by having to deal with really stupid people and people really unfamiliar with games in general. It's unironically popular now with zoomers, and it's no wonder. WoW and XIV have always attracted actual fricking morons. The whole business model is dragging in other morons.
Catering to smart people doesn't make any money. This is why WoW's moronic sparkly horse made more money on its own than fricking Starcraft 2, because RTS games have a minimum requirement of 600 actions per minute to even win against the easiest AI, let alone a human player.
>RTS games have a minimum requirement of 600 actions per minute to even win against the easiest AI
Thats just BS. SC2 storymode is piss easy.
The problem is they want more money and failed to convert starcraft into a live service with cashshop where they can fleece players permanently.
hyperbole is exaggerating the problem but the problem is still not difficulty. Its monetization.
They did that israeli shit with custom games and basically killed SC2 for most normal people then killed it for the autist because they did israeli shit with the tournament scene
oh yeah forget about the crap with tournaments too. They wanted $ for the right to hold tournaments. Imagine basketball manufacturers holding the NBA hostage.
They did that israeli shit with custom games and basically killed SC2 for most normal people then killed it for the autist because they did israeli shit with the tournament scene
S TIER: WORSE THAN ANYTHING AVAILABLE IN WOW >splatoon
draws aoes, markers, tethers in the arena in real time with full access to every visible and invisible entity and their position.
no such addon exists in wow and if it existed it would be swiftly banned by blizzard >cammy
allows you to zoom out way farther than the game allows by default
no such addon exists in wow >xivslothcombo
allows you to automate your rotation by mashing a single button
would be considered botting in wow and banned >noclippy
spoofs your client to send out data mimicking 0-15ms ping, allowing you to play as if lagless
would be immediately banned by blizzard
A TIER: SAME SHIT AS WOW >cactbot
same as dbm, makes automated callouts and sounds for mechanics >automarkers
automatically marks people in combat with machine precision >xivcombo
less egregious than xivsloth as it is restr6ited only to redundant buttons and classes such as MNK don't have any combos available
B TIER: INFORMATION THAT IS TECHNICALLY VISIBLE >ACT
dps parser >UI improvements and simpletweaks
shows shit like slidecast marker, mp tick, own hitbox
C TIER: NITPICKING AT THIS POINT >reshade
visual enhancer >discord
lol
D TIER: NOT CHEATS >cosmetic mods >bigger monitor/2nd monitor >165fps instead of 60 >keyboard and mouse >sticky notes on 2nd monitor
what i want:
UI addons
- display lvl on items
- display class icons on gear in armory
- save gear stored in retainers and automatically suggest getting gear usable whenever you hit a lvl up
>be me >join a dungeon >nobody says anything >complete silence >accidentally pull one (1) mob >we kill it easily >nobody says anything >suddenly loading screen >i've been kicked from the dungeon
nice MMO wowtroons
it's because you are a shy quiet b***h ass Black person to embarassed to say anything else but stutter "h-hello" and then you went back to doing your thing which was being a loser
Not enough Sazh
This shit is the only game I fell asleep playing.
This and Diablo 4
>he bought diablo 4
Clunky gameplay + boring Japanese writings. Even 2d Maple Story has more soul than this Japs trash.
This cope only works by ignoring how successful the game was.
They ditched the game to work on FFXVI. it's that simple. It had amazing trajectory in 2020 and they threw it all away.
Keyword: was
Apparently nothing because according to this
https://store.steampowered.com/sale/BestOf2023
It's somewhere on Steam's top sellers for this year.
Job homogenization
Low effort dripfeed content
Story / lore gone down the shitter
Oh it's this bait again
>bait
how is it wrong
you are a disingenuous homosexual
>sissy getting mad
bro its fine
got you to reply, homie
I accept your concession.
>DATA I DONT LIKE JANNY PLEASE SAVE ME
>I-I ACCEPT YOUR CONESSION
lmao homie getting mad over some numbers
A second time you reply. Clearly losing is in your bloodline. Additionally, I recently vigorous carnal relations with your mother.
>disingenuous
okay troony
That won't stop the thread hitting bump limit, too many morons and disingenuous bait posters to bother having a discussion about the game, especially in this thread.
Nothing to discuss until fanfest drops this weekend. Besides predictions about it, which is always the same 3 points of femhroths, new Casting job and new Eureka/Bozja.
Graphics update? I thought they already done that
They increased the time between patches by 2 weeks and reduced the replayability of patch content compared to previous expansions. It also had a bizarre FOTM run a couple of years ago and the only people who stayed are roleplay-exclusive degens so the game as a whole feels a bit cancerous these days.
Can't keep up with the king.
But seriously, xvi kinda fricked the team
I loved xvi even though it had under developped mechanics and side quest. I never had so much fun in a kaiju fight.
more like queen (male)
wow. and those were the GOOD photos, too
Yeah how can they possibly beat all the good dudes uniting against the evil dude like avengers and finishing up with a dialogue about their feelings and describing the morale of the story to the reader in case they are moronic?
>SOD raid logging
>Cata ever
>M+ mazed never qutting
3 months of level banding was a mistake
BFD has one boss
>expecting blizzard to ever bring out something that isnt mediocre treadmilltrash for cattle
hmmmm
>Blizzard has resorted to making roadmaps like a fricking kickstarter Early Access game
Every time I see a "roadmap" for a video game, it ends up being a list of things that get delivered a year late and in a worse state that was promised, or just never delivered in the first place. At least you don't have to pay monthly for kickscammer games.
Blizzdrones genuinely have something wrong with them.
It fools people into thinking there's a lot going on, when a lot of their patches are just "a questline got added and an old race got two more skin colors"
has resorted to making roadmaps like a fricking kickstarter Early Access game
No one tell him XIV sisters...
>saying bad things about Blizzard means you play rival game
I have never installed XIV, see a doctor
TRUEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Man i was so hopefull going into endwalker...and now i hate it here
nu-MMOgays are truly a cancer on videogames
Irrefutable
>3/6 of those entries are holiday events with wordswordswords cutscenes that last 5 minutes
lmao is this what passes for "content" in your ERP chatroom?
LAMOW this game is so dead! WoW's schedule timeling mogs it so hard ahahahahaha
>Pictureof a card added to the game
WUT?? nice update troonlords
The story. It concluded.
>b-but the Void, and the bazinga treasures you haven't explor-
I killed jobber Zodiark. I killed mommy Hydaelyn. Meteon is no longer depressed, and Zenos finally got the battle he wanted. It's done. I do not care.
Story is boring so it fails to retain new players
Recent FFXIV job designs and XVI in overal just showed me how much yoship HATES rpg elements and player choices. I wouldn't be surprised if 2 expansions later all jobs will just have one attack button, one BIGGER attack button on a cooldown and generic job utility button. This guy might have """saved""" the game but he's really fricking out of touch and probably can't comprehend why people seem to like BG3 and other RPGs like it. Everything in XIV is also made with the mindset that you don't need to worry about grinds and yet he adds the most mind numbing boring grinds in the game that take absolutely not a single brain cell and yet feel like pure suffering because you can't get any single joy or satisfaction out of it. I think I've just played the game too much over the years but the game is so insanely predictable that expansions are just not exciting anymore. They absolutely fear taking risks and the risks they take are just small side content experiments that mostly don't go anywhere because giving any meaningful awards is a big no no except for a mount or something else moronic.
I'm honestly glad most content creators are shitting on it now because yoship really needs a wake up call. The constant ass licking people have been giving really made turned the game really fricking boring and sterilized.
>yoship HATES rpg elements and player choices
RPG elements and player choice don't work in an online game designed around high difficulty cooperative boss fights as their main content
This copes apart when you have a brain and know how gear and content works in this game
Player choice and RPG elements mean cheese
Cheese means people easily bypassing the super hard boss fights you worked on for months
That's a no-go in MMOs
Simple as that
Please play video games.
Yoshida stop defending your stale bread design that got mogged by everyone with final floppo 16 and design some fricking shit that is not designed by GPT4
>GPT4
Come down buddy, XIV shit is GPT-2 level at best
>Even goyslopai can design something more interesting without any info
fricking KEK
sad that this AI slop is still deeper itemization than any gear in the game
>beaten by aislop with 0 prompting
incredible, japanese bugs are truly shit
Every single "raid" based online game is like this, it's not a problem unique to FFXIV, it's a problem with having to create a difficult, uncheesable PvE game, the nature of the genre itself imposes myriad restrictions on design because what the player can do is never allowed to leave the space of what the designers intended
On top of that if you start designing fights around having to be countered with specific class abilities like a regular RPG then you start having to swap players in and out of your raid between fights, and some players potentially having to sit out an entire raid tier if they play the wrong class
>Every single "raid" based online game is like this,
sure buddy, whatever you say
lmao
Designing fights that require certain kinds of CC and kiting and what not is surprisingly a lot easier when your party sizes are bigger and a single raid mechanic can't potentially suddenly exclude half the roster of jobs from the fight, who knew?
Ok buddy whatever you say
You dont get it bro...you NEED to have items that less interesting than every game in existence...doesnt matter if they have bigger parties...smaller parties...raids...not raids...
IT DOESNT COUTN OK???????
Better itemization than every single xiv item... Sisters, not like this...
Sounds pretty cool AND you can visually see it just pop off when you press it
I've been playing 14 since Heavensward and literally no piece of gear has ever given you that satisfaction
shitty wording for
>aoe skill
>target gets bind
>rest slow
and because its on a item its like getting a new skill and losing it again. The worst part however is they design their classes with gear in mind and then change gear so the classes stop working fluid.
>and because its on a item its like getting a new skill and losing it again. The worst part however is they design their classes with gear in mind and then change gear so the classes stop working fluid.
this. couldn't really put it any better
Yoshida continue defending your design because it works fine for me and the other people that have been playing your game for 10 years and don't want a contrived "le arpegee" system that amounts to a whole lot of nothing just so they can feel as though they're putting in thought.
I take it you've never played WoW before.
I remember back in ff14 where you could get skills from other jobs on your main like e.x. you are a mnk and you could get blood for blood from drg iirc and people were seething about it because it was le hard to level up another job... Imagine having a static and wanting people some bare min. jobs leveled up and skills available so you could all raid together with optimal party combosition too... sovl
cross-job skills were cancer and anyone who promotes them is a boomer who has no idea what they're talking about
ah you were filtered as well. too hard to level up a second job back when it wasn't as easy as it is now?
>be you
>grab something collectively hated by the community to nostalgiawank over
>people call you out for being a contrarian moron
>"heh... le filtered"
yeah dude cross-job skills were so much sovl specially when the best jobs didn't bring a lot of cross-job skills that mattered to begin with and then you have monk being a total trash job with having to borrow its damage from dragoon and warrior
dude no, I want to pick one job for it's aesthetic and level it up and if I find another job of the same role i want it to play the exact same as my main one. that cross-skill thing sounds like chore, i'd have to play the game to level up the jobs I'm going to need for optimal gameplay
You’re fricking moronic because you can’t force people to play other jobs to get cross class skill, glad they took that stupid shit away
>you can’t force people to play other jobs to get cross class skill
same way that you can't force me to recruit you or any other shitter into my static for not putting in any effort...
I don’t need that because I play with my fc
you don't need that because now it's removed thanks to shitters like you who cried about it.
next tell us all about how the loss of TP killed the real sovl in xiv and how anyone who disagrees with you got le filtered
NTA and i dont really care about TP but one of the reasons why the combat in this game is shit is resource managment
You look through half of the jobs and wonder why the frick there is a bar as you can not run of it.
>BROS I REALLY NEED TO TRACK MY DARKSIDE!
it didn't but is there a point to mp right now? do you even risk running out of it unless you are really terrible at your job?
now post the part where you just open your class discord and copy-paste the best build instead of actually making any choices
NO SHUT UP THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN LOOK AT ALL THIS CHOICEEEE (of which half can't be used because it's the inferior choice that your raid team/guild will consider griefing if you pick it over the superior one)
>open the balance discord
>look up bis and melds
XIV isn't any better even with that itty bitty little choice it does offer.
he wasn't wanking off xiv's "breadth of choice and customization" thoughever albeit
Classes in WoW have different skill builds for mythic dungeons vs raids, and also have different builds for single target vs cleave damage optimization or different damage profiles for fights that favor sustained vs burst damage
The tradeoff of course is much worse balance and most specs being useless more or less by design, but that's just how things go.
>player choices are important
>just look at all these different builds that other people chose for me
what's the point of your post again?
>humans share information
>wooooow
Someone still has to actually figure these things out, you know
You could still figure these things out for yourself, the fact that you don't because it's too difficult says good things about the game's depth, not bad
99% of players just go to "x" website and import talents without thought. This is the same in PoE and every other game with "build diversity" that is total bullshit.
build diversity and customization really is just a cope. it leads to min-maxed builds, but just the concept that it could hypothetically lead to a whole smattering of individualized builds even if it never does in practice gives these people a hard pp
Depends on the balance. I've definitely played slightly less optimal builds before because they were significantly less of a pain in the ass to play and still did very well.
Meanwhile, 20 years ago...
looks like a homosexual troon game
you missed the
>don't work in an online game designed around high difficulty cooperative boss fights as their main content
part which is more than half the post
...anonchama...what you think the picture is from?
No, I didn't miss that part which is why I mentioned FFXI.
NTA but are you a mongo or just a troll? FF11 is PURELY built of party synergy as opposed to ff14 which had very few of it and remove it
Also list us the cooperative elements of the average savage boss, this should be entertaining,
>check out XI's high difficulty cooperative boss fights
>it's people standing around the boss calling out what they're going to use
wow... such difficulty
>how can it be difficult if they aren't mashing the keyboard???
>they're talking to each other? where's the cooperation???
Zoomer-kun...
>didnt list any
EVERY
TIME
>check out XIV's high difficulty "cooperative" boss fights
>it's people standing around the boss doing their rotation and going to their preassigned spots
wow... such multiplayer...
>yoship HATES rpg elements and player choices
RPG elements and player choice don't work in Dance Dance Revolution disguised as raiding
It was shit.
dogshit soundtrack
dogshit troony localization
Initiate seethe extraction!
Omg she has no ass that’s so unattractive. Pink lala now best lala
Ummm....Pinklala pretty good ye
We keep it vanilla over here however
>3 years
>1 expansion
They are lucky they still have people paying to play
World of Warcraft: Dragonflight is just the superior MMORPG experience.
It's also more popular and won more awards.
Endwalker is just bad.
Been playing since ARR and I've never taken as long of a break before. And there's still half a year longer until the next expansion.
Game suck, Asmongold said so
>trannies and pedos
They do die a lot faster than most
Inept boomer devs proven by their complete and utter failure to create even a simple comfy farming zone. The user interface is a complete disaster because it has to cater to the PS4 audience. Network is in shambles to the point you can slide while casting. Dripfeed content inbetween expansions.
>No expansion pack releases planned
LMAO DEAD troony GAME
I thought there was an xpac up comming isnt there?
they need to give me dq10
The game has had basically the same content cycle since release, has one of the most outdated and archaic endgame gearing designs in modern MMOs, and hasn't made any significant or worthwhile feature or quality of life developments in its literal entire lifespan. The gameplay loop of today's FFXIV is literally the same as 2.X patches. It's insane.
It doesn't help that the game has had constant identity crisis and never knows who it wants to appeal to. Storygays? Casuals? ERPers? Raiders? The FFXIV patches are a fantastic example of why games need a leader or a team with a vision instead of just being a bunch of people that react to what players say. Players have no fricking clue what they want and absolutely do not know what it best for them.
>no exploration zone
>deep dungeon kinda sucked
>relic acquisition is awful and lazy as shit
>island sanctuary turned out to be ABSOLUTE FRICKING GARBAGE
>criterion dungeons turned out to be thoroughly underwhelming
>the main story from 6.1 onward has been boring and mediocre
>euphrosyne and thaleia were mediocre, but I'll give aglaia a pass for being pretty good. the gods plot twist was obvious right from the very start
>pandaemonium was actually great. no complaints there
>weapon armor design has been mostly a miss this expansion
>the two minute meta has completely taken over class design
>the increase in development time between patches makes downtime feel much worse
>the patch formula has gotten so stale that everyone has started to notice it
>fall guys collab exposed even to non-raiders how dogshit the netcode is and has always been
Endwalker started off so strong too, but its obvious that development for XVI took away a lot of the resources that went in to XIV, what for what? XVI fricking sucked anyway and was a commercial disappointment. Dawntrail has yet to show me anything to win be back over either.
>deep dungeon kinda sucked
that's being extremely kind
EO was fricking dogshit
so much that even DD addicted gays hated it and went back to PotD/HoH immediately
>can finally beat wow
>"lets move on to another game!"
Blame square
Thats the funny thing. Two years ago they got the opportunity dethrone WoW and they completely squandered it. WoW is certainly still not in top shape currently either, but neither is XIV anymore.
I'm honestly fricking baffled how they just decided to bot capitalize on it and instead leech even more money from it, pull more people away from the team to work on other projects, increase patch dev times, deliver the worst fricking content cycles and shit completely on the job design. What the frick were they thinking, starting to feel like they must be sabotaging the game on purpose. Imagine being given the opportunity to become a mmo killer on a silver platter when all the twitch ecelebs joined in and instead drop a big fricking turd on all your new players and give them the finger.
Think that is how the Japanese are
If it's working why bother to do more?
It's just classic SE management. This company is only still alive because they keep falling ass backwards into miracles they don't deserve.
>What the frick were they thinking
You assume SE thinks, they do not. While they're not outright malicious like Blizzard they're very incompetent.
the rotting, shambling corpse that is squeenix
It... stood about the same as inbetween patches, after the obvious hype of expansion release?
Nah. Right now feels like the worst time since the Heavensward lull. The Stormblood patches were actually amazing and kept interest fairly high, and Shadowbringers patches were decent and the game enjoyed the WoW exodus that happened in 2021.
What does that have to do with the pic? The only thing related is the WoW exodus stuff which explains the Jan 22 part, and I already explained the rest
>SB were amazing
It was basically the same shit but with worse fights, a trash mob grinder zone instead of kino mini raids and one less months
The Four Lords had mechanics that were pretty new and novel to them, like the free-fall intermission during Byakko and the DDR game during Suzaku. Bosses had more mechanical creativity during SB, as opposed to now, where everything is mostly a rehash or remix of old mechanics.
homie are you kidding
Barba, zodiark, zeromus, rubbicante, hell hydaelyn lightwave are all unique
>Muh rehashed ability
Savage fight would rehash ability left and right halfway into the fight, hell O12S p2 has 5min worth of mech stretched over 10. There is more effort put into raid mechanic today
It's not that mechanical creativity has gone down, it's the nature of said mechanics that has changed from HW/SB to now. SB had way more fast paced, reaction based mechanics. A classic example would be Titan Gaols which still filters people to this day. A more casual example is the Monster Hunter collab. Endwalker has way more slow puzzle solving mechanics that give you ample time to prep, even if the execution itself is tight. An example of a reaction based mechanic in EW would be Party Synergy, and for a casual example Barbariccia during Curled Iron.
If you read the interview with Mr. Ozma he did mention they are trying to move away from reaction mechanics, leaving less of them through the expansion.
>Right now feels like the worst time since the Heavensward lull
I saw someone do the math recently that showed that the 3.0 to 3.2 slog was like 200 and some odd days long and that we're like 20 days shy of it being that long since 6.4 and there is still at least six months left to go at a minimum with like 9 months being the most cynical timeframe. However bad people thought the lull in HW was immediately post release is gonna be nothing compared to this.
>WoW was peak at WotLK
>XIV was peak at SB
MMOs only last two expansion cycles gameplay wise.
The Final Fantasy series has a bad track record of over estimating the amount of loyalty and control they have over their audience. They fall into the thought trap of thinking "we already have this audience base in our pocket and they'll keep supporting us out of obligation, so lets ignore them and try to bring in new people instead."
And then the series becomes less and less popular every year.
They had a golden goose with FFXIV and instead decided to ransack that game of its resources to make FFXVI for a completely different audience than either the traditional single player or FFXIV audience and it made no one happy and bombed.
SE really deserves to go out of business at this point.
new world is better
Did I just go back in time?
It truly sucks to play, every archetype job plays the same way with the exception of BLM which is the only class that actually is interesting to play, learn and master, with that being said i like middies.
It's funny how you these same doomthreads show up every time a new fanfest, patch or expac is incoming, and at the same time the positive OP threads get pruned by WoWjanny.
You gonna cry you b***hass convert rat?
I play both games as I'm not a tribalist degenerate.
Yeah you didn't have to tell me you're a blizzdrone with how hard you naturally throat developer wiener. Go back.
>with how hard you naturally throat developer wiener.
Big words from the xivcultist.
You're the one shitting your pants over a negative OP thoughever
Trying too hard m8.
Going back to classic and playing SoD made me realise how fricking awful 14 is. Cannot wait for classic+ starting next year.
Classic WoW unironically perfected the genre. It's embarrassing how lackluster game made 10 years later is.
4 days.
This isn't real
Please tell me your lying and this isn't what the FemHroth look like
You are playing me anon, you Black person- she looks so damn cute.
Might need to finally use my fantasia...
bro that is quite literally aislop
Of course a furgay is so unbelievably fricking dumb that he mistakes AI slop for official XIV art. God I can't wait for you freaks to throw your tantrums this weekend and then frick off forever.
Literally nothing fun to do this whole expansion
An absolute slog of a 6.X MSQ
They decided to be a bunch of racists and make a racist game, FF16
Begone vile demon! Begone from anons mind in God’s holy name!
Ive played XIV since heavensward and quit many years ago and I gotta say
Is Yoshi P and his team the worst team ever in gaming when it comes to making a roleplaying game? Seriously I have never seen an RPG that has as barebones of an RPG system as XIV and XVI its honestly fricking awful and it just saddens me that the gaming public pretends that he’s a good game dev
Name a single RPG that has more barebones RPG mechanics than XIV/XVI im waiting
you don't play many MMOs i take it
Insane projection here
completely incomprehensible reply, maybe that post mentioning the sharty was right
If a simple three word reply was incomprehensible to you then kindly frick off and keep your illiterate third world ass off my website.
"you're projecting" is an incomprehensible answer to that post yes
completely ignoring the sharty accusation is extremely funny
It's not at all incomprehensible, you just seem like you don't speak English. You accused anon of not playing MMOs because he's shocked at the lack of RPG mechanics, but in fact you revealed thay you don't play MMOs because the vast majority of them have very deep RPG mechanics that confound morons like you. And what the frick am I supposed to say about your schizo rambling about muh sharty? have a nice day you gibbering brown dipshit.
>the vast majority of them have very deep RPG mechanics
nta but
Try playing video games.
>Name a single RPG that has more barebones RPG mechanics than XIV/XVI im waiting
Ginga Ojousama Densetsu Yuna
Make clear what you mean with "RPG mechanics" and why their absence in either game is a problem.
He's the biggest fricking fraud in gaming. Every other highly notable dev I can at least see the talent. Kojima is fricking weird and inconsistent but when he gets it right it's great. Yoshitpiss is a talentless fricking clown that's never played an RPG in his life.
As for RPG mechanics and shit, XIV has been total trash for a long while. But this is not the focus of the game. It's a casual MMO with some group jumping jack content thrown in every here and there and for that user base, the barebone shit they have is enough
>FFXIV has lackluster MMO elements
Oh it's RPG-MMO akshually
>FFXIV has lackluster RPG elements
It's uh... uhhhhh...
>extended free trial
I wonder how many people noticed?
Shadowbringers free trial when?
Its a sign the game will go free to play soon.
In two years, its EW free
what killed wowo wacar?
Judaism, women, and transsexuality. Many such cases.
>FFXIV thread
>Everyone is obsessed with the better MMO
classic
the steam charts say the better mmo is dying bro... it's doing worse than op's pic
>thread opens with wowcucks baiting "look how your game is dying with these steam charts"
>ffxiv thread
ok
Endwalker
I don't really get why people are shitting their pants at player numbers when it's still a higher playercount than most of stormblood and heavensward. The only reason shadowbringers was higher at this point in an expansion cycle is cuz of WoW shitting the bed.
There are less people actually playing the game because that playercount includes free trial nightclub gays and Limsa idlers who don't actually do any content aside from the occasional expert roulette.
Major storyline ended, post-expac storyline was super mid, overall lack of content (especially replayable content) after the main expansion other than a couple good ultimates, absolutely no content lately. Game will have a decent resurgence for the next expac if they don't absolutely frick it up
>4 tank classes
>4 healer classes
>5 melee DPS classes
>6 ranged DPS classes
>All play the same as the other classes in their role with small gimmicks
Why?
How are DRG and NIN even remotely similar other than pressing ONE button on the 2min window?
How is MNK any like RPR?
I see we're still deluding ourselves. No wonder this game never improves.
You didn't answer my question.
If you think every job in each role plays the same you are a support that never played DPS.
Stop replying to wowbuck bait.
That's what I keep asking them, but "le job homosexual" mouthdroopers don't really ever have an answer, just rote "uhm it's the same because ACKCHUALLY IT IS, CHUD. YOU MUST NOT WANT THE GAME TO IMPROVE GO DANCE IN LIMSA REEEE."
>Black Mage plays like Summoner
t. never played the game
I fricking wish every healer played like AST
It’s bullshit that I have to pay a monthly subscription to keep my house.
Does nobody like XV?
bought it day1, hated it and stopped playing.
picked it up a couple of years later with dlcs and fixes. it was better than when i played it first, it was fun but it's not the game I'd pickup again, unlike other ffs i've replayed.
>unlike other ffs i've replayed.
List them. I've never played a FF game. When all the kids at school were going apeshit over FFVII I ignored them and thus missed out on all that shit.
I don't even know if I at this venerable age have the patience for a turn based JRPG anymore.
-FF4 : First I've played back in SNES (my cousin's) and then replayed it when it was released on psp with After years
-FF7 and FF8: Both back when they were hot and replayed them on pc like 5 years later from each
-FF10: Back in college I was playing it with my roommate (he mostly watched when he was smoking weed and sometimes I let him do some grinding). Months later one of his buddies fall on my PS2 and broke it and I was left with only a controller and a memory card and some unfinished games including that. Found it on steam some years ago and finished it.
-FF6: Played it after 4 back when I was too young to remember much of it. Replayed it and some other jrpgs (Breath of Fire 1/2/3, Terranigma, Chrono Trigger) when covid lockdown happened.
Played once:
-FF9: while I liked the game I don't know why I can't bring myself to replay it in a newer version maybe.
-FF12: filtered by the combat twice. Gave up somewhere in the middle of the story iirc
-FF13: didn't hook me and gave it up
Thanks for the listing.
Of the ones you've played, what could you recommend to someone in my position? I've got 10 and 7 in my cart for this steam sale. Dunno if I'll just get immediately filtered by the turn based combat however.
If the story is good, I'd probably preserve. Just jump into 7 because it's the classic? Heard that you get more out of the remake if you've actually played the original.
The 7remake is more of a sequel disguised as a remake. I can't tell if you'll enjoy the remake more if you played the OG but you'll surely understand more of the story and references. I'd suggest trying FF7 first. Story is better than 10's, I've found characters more interesting and in FF10 there's voice acting which didn't quite age well so you will encounter some cringe-worthy moments that otherwise should have different tone. iirc it's the first FF with voice acting. Both have different leveling systems and combat mechanics, I think 7's is the one with the more "first-time friendly" approach with materia.
Both are good choices to start and I believe either one will keep you playing for but I can't tell if you'll like turn-based or not, if you hate it you might end up giving up both games.
>The 7remake is more of a sequel disguised as a remake. I can't tell if you'll enjoy the remake more if you played the OG but you'll surely understand more of the story and references. I'd suggest trying FF7 first.
Thanks for the rec. Reading that and I feel that I must play the original first.
Well, 7 it is then. It's cheap now, anyway.
Thanks again.
No problem! Have fun! I really hope you enjoy!
Just read a guide about the floors from 100+ and damn, I expected a difficulty spike but wasn't expecting that much selective aggroing and resource management... especially when most recommended jobs are either ranged or have at least one ranged attack.
>selective aggroing and resource management
Don't be scared of pulling single mobs even at high floors no matter what the guide says. If you accidentally pull an Anzu you can still kill it if your burst is ready, or you can strength/steel to fight it and then try to maximize your efficiency for the duration of the buffs.
If you try to only fight the mobs that are rated as "easy" or "medium" you'll end up wasting a lot of time exploring and looking for that one mob you're not scared to fight. Just pull a hard mob and burst it down, especially as a job with a strong offense like monk.
I will give it a try, got nothing better to do and at least i already got the 100floor cleared and +99 gear. I'd do HoH or EO but I'd need to farm for gear levels first...
What's the new caster job? I'm hoping it's a DoT mage.
Play BLU
BLU opener requires xivalexander. And I will not install cheats.
Not with the bis. Even without it you can still do the normal opener fine if you're not BoM or Mortal Flame user
All Yoshi needs to do is make an Elin race and it will bankrole the next 10 years of expansions
is that XIV? What mods?
Just the e-girl mod from /trash/, hempen underwear mod (lets any race use any other race's hempen stuff) and a lot of custom slider edits
Was the thread deleted? What is the name of the custom slider mod?
The slider stuff is via customizer+ plugin you need to look into xivlauncher and the plugin system to set that stuff up.
https://files.catbox.moe/78834r.zip if the trash thread is gone, there are 2 versions difference is the head proportions depending on the height your going for.
You either need to use another plugin glamourer to force yourself to be a midlander or race change / make an erp alt I dont care
STAND
AND
WAIT
TO
RESOLVE
>steam
I figured out the reason you guys seethe over this game, it doesn’t have a Spanish translation
what killed ffxiv?
well my peanus weenus of course
my weenus peanus
hahaha my peenis
may i see it?
Not enough Yotolo.
>Steam
There are two general trends the game follows in terms of player number decreases
1. A sizeable chunk of people cancel sub after completing MSQ and wait for the next expansion.
2. In general, post-launch sees a gradual decline since people either, burn out, get bored, want to play other things or have completed all the content they wanted to do.
This has nearly always been the case and is nothing new for FFXIV since Heavensward. The issue currently is that Endwalker post-launch content is lean compared to Stormblood's and Shadowbringers' respectively.
Also using Steam's numbers exclusively to determine player count, while a good aggregate, discounts people on console and those who use the standalone game service, so it's not totally accurate. I'd love if SquareEnix released their actual player numbers, but most companies that run MMO's are cowards so it isn't going to happen.
>>>/vg/
get an ad
have we moved past the obvious wowbuck bait yet? good, talk about what you're expecting from "lifestyle content"
>"lifestyle content"
One questline and some menu to click every day. Look, this game is for Savage chads, either you raid or you can unsub lmao
And now without the doomdilation.
Where am I wrong? All endgame content they released is for Savage player. They don't want 'midcore' and casuals have mods to keep themself entertained. If they wanted to cater to that segment they wouldn't have turned Criterion into a playground for people to use their Savage gear on.
Stop wasting my time, go back to your w*wtroon threads.
ishgard restoration part 2 except its garlemald
Is Gaius a part of it? If so, I'll accept it.
if it really is garlean restoration I would be surprised if he wasn't
Trannies and mare, mare trannies
It's engine is garbage and it's one of the most unresponsive bricks I've ever played, only mentally damaged morons would play this game
Is the second one the last fricking bite on this reel
this c**t never bites EVER
The wowfugees went back to their shit treadmill game.
Good riddance.
He left and he'll never come back
Good.
>every popular streamer/influencer dropped ff14
>"Good."
holy mother of cope
Not the heckins streamerinos.
How do we manage without the ecelebs...
>BULLSHIT GAME DOOD
is potd after floor 100 hard or is he a shitter?
Chances of getting fricked by rng rise enormously per ten floors.
It was a skill issue, he had every single pomander but panicked and didn't know what to use which is fairly common in your first runs.
MCH is really easy though, an average MCH player will only start actively avoiding señect mobs starting at the 171 set, everything before that you can just steamroll through with minimal care.
i want to try it as a mnk, already cleared solo floor 100 but i had to try like 3 times because 2 of those attempts were invalid because of d/c... i guess it's going to be a nightmare
Monk has a very rough final set because at 60 your defensive options suck and you don't have a ranged option either, so it's probably a complicated choice of job for your first Necromancer clear.
Depending on your morals you can learn spinning and if you get good at it it'll make your upper floors much more accessible since it allows you to negate most damage.
he is a legitimate shitter who is used to being carried
(like pretty much all streamers)
>Filtered by the ui of soulsborne, ff14 and now mh world
lol
He pretty much doesn't even have time for it now since he's just playing all the newest games. He barely even touches WoW anymore though, so if you wanna call that a win go for it.
He still playing SOD or moved on from that too?
This game ALWAYS peters out right before a new expansion, where activity explodes enormously.
It's the end of an expansion lull during an expansion with not a whole lot to do. Endwalker was a pretty bad expansion overall and Dawntrail will probably be the true telling point.
>asset that has existed since 1.0 and is literally in the very first cutscene of ARR
>still vomit it out for almost $40 for absolutely no reason
>Limsa slurpers still eat that shit up and beg for more rancid shit on a plate
What a game
not even BDO is that greedy wtf
and that's saying a lot
what
what the frick
bdo's cash shop has infinite spending potential
this mount is a one time purchase that is account wide
almost everything in the ffxiv store is a one time purchase
bdo's store is continuous purchases over and over and you can easily spend hundreds of thousands of dollars
in ffxiv after about 3000 dollars you have everythingnm in the shop
can't imagine digging that deep for something to be angry about
lel
>digging that deep
>slapped in front of your face alongside the other $40 mounts and $20 gender locked outfits the moment you open mogstation or launcher
Based slurpbro
Limsa slurpers bought this mount even tho they can't use it / show it off in major hubs like Limsa/Gridania/Uldah etc...
Merch that was sold at the fanfest was a plastic flower with interior lighting.
But because it represented the most emotional part of Endwalker, it's $60
I will never not be sad about that one because it is the only 4 seat mount that is actually immersive to the game world. Frick the car(s), frick the whale, that chocobo carriage is cool. Would have made for a really good 10th anniversary rewards, seeing that that is literally where everyone began.
isn't that blimp 4-man
Meanwhile the actual 10th anniversary mount was just a reused model that they didn't even put a mounted character model on. And despite the cope around the community, you are not turning into the Phoenix. You call it on a whistle like any other mount, there's no transforming animation, and the mount description itself says it's a familiar you summon. This game shit the bed in record time, it's unreal.
it's so fricking funny how there isn't even any semblance of an animation to it
just boom, your character just despawns
Yeah the 10th was completely inexcusable. Were they too busy with XVI or did the team just completely lose interest in XIV? FFS, we got this for the 5th anni:
OH NO NO NO NO
posting in a rent free thread
WoW is the red dot
Post your edgy glams my dudes. And, if you're still playing, what are you goals before DT?
>that hair clipping
I also have my DRK glam but I don't really feel like it's edgy, just dark.
So what's with the seethe and cope thread? Did Blizzard shit its pants again?
Game lives and dies with its story but the two main writers are hacks. One got very lucky her Graha husbando OC worked well in ShB (the second attempt) but the other lead guy has never written anything good. These days the only thing people respond well to are tired Haurchefaunt memes and cameos from characters that were last interesting a decade ago (if ever).
crazy how they still manage to milk that death scene to this day
The playerbase has not helped what so ever in that regard either.
I didn't ever like horsefart and never ever understood why anyone gave a frick about him, what he did was moronic.
my favourite part of that scene is the knights of the round member that impaled him just let the dramatic monologue play out
dude could've easily finished the WoL but hey, forced drama
I've resubbed for a month.
I think I'll do BLM and see if I like it.
>I think I'll do BLM and see if I like it.
RIP
Dont tell me that bro, I wanted so bad to be a wizard...
The funniest part of Haurchefaunt's death memes is that they redid the scene when they added duty support to The Vault, and it's now yet another Alphinaud-focused scene where he gets all the closeups and tears. The iconic moment they constantly return to with references matters less to the WoL than it used to in the game itself.
isn't that because everyone was always going "uhhhh why doesnt alphinaud just heal him lmaooo"
That was already answered in the fight. That attack gives a healing potency down debuff.
>That was already answered in the fight. That attack gives a healing potency down debuff.
I am fully aware.
But people always went on about it, so they probably wanted to state it outright.
sry was meant for this:
In the original scene he's not even there. It's just Aymeric and his garlean woman.
people used to make fun of the WoL's very understated reaction to haurchefant's death, that's probably why they chose to change it to alphinaud instead
>people used to make fun of the WoL's very understated reaction to haurchefant's death
the frick?
I'm not sure what part of that is confusing
there's nothing understated about the wol's reaction. it's the most active the wol gets in any cutscene in the game
>it's the most active the wol gets in any cutscene in the game
you say that like it's a high bar to pass
the community feedback is basically run by 2 people:
>"Raidlogger el hombre poggies is that limit cut?"
and
>"I coomed to mare 23 times today and afked in limsa"
Which is resulting into getting the most shit content you can imagine.
>Raid trannies and ERP trannies
so the problems are trannies?
I guess
this is the biggest example of pottery i ever seen
>he fears the sunnie+ woober
the mare synchronios devs could sell the code to bethesda to make millions
Yeah but i want to know how the frick did this development happen
I guess its a combination of the only online game with representable graphics and no cheat detection?
>the community feedback is basically run by 2 people:
>
>>"Raidlogger el hombre poggies is that limit cut?"
>
>and
>
>>"I coomed to mare 23 times today and afked in limsa"
It do be like that
>Make ps3 videogame on the technical level of eurjojank
>Gets the better ERP mods than Skyrim
can someone history pill how the frick did that happen?
In late Stormblood several other MMOs shit themselves and their roleplaying communities moved over to XIV all at once. This coincided with the first modding tools for the game getting attention. Some moronss started selling mods which got the attention of Second Life mod developers. And everything has grown from that. The population explosion of WoW players in late ShB and their love of addons brought in a lot of explosive growth for mods too.
I see thanks
So i was halfright it has to do with the unregulated market of this shit
if you have never completed an ultimate
you have no opinion on this game's balance or job design or encounter design
nobody takes you seriously and you don't know what you're talking about
cope and seethe, shitter
this thread is 80% seething wowbucks what do you actually expect
just because you cleared uwu doesnt give you opinion validity
clearing uwu is better than not clearing anything at all, shitter
>people keep claiming that XIV has incredible porn mods
>"XIV has fallen... it's all erp and mods now"
>the mods are just posing and standing still to take a screenshot with a futa catgirl
wow... so this is the power of ERP modders
>he doesn't know about animations
>he doesn't know about synchronos
>"XIV has fallen... it's all erp and mods now"
said by neurotics who need something to blame for their ennui and erpmodgays are unlikely to even see any of their seething and scapegoating, let alone protest it
Mare litterarly shits on other ERP mods
also im not an ERP modder but
>stand still and take screenshot
how the frick do you think most sex mod work you moron? Look what people doing with their skyrim sex mods they just go photomode and autisticly animate their character standing still
to take a screenshot in a prefect pose
>this is the game guy telling you that all jobs play the same
>IESLB
done
3 more days i guess
6.55 is a week after probably?
probably, yeah
>Trannies and furries
wowbucks killed xiv?
could be
Enjoy 20 plates in 2026
>year 2026
>all glams are now modernshit or sci-fi
>"IT'S OK BECAUSE LORE ACCURATE YOU CHUD! IMMERSE!"
>no more job unique glams
>no more role unique glams
>so many glam plates
>only use 2-3 of them for all jobs, maybe have 2 for holidays and a couple more for memes
>no more job unique glams
>no more role unique glams
would be good
give us cross-job glams
except the artifact gear
They claimed artistic integrity was the reason they wouldn't do that. But my money is on there is a bunch of technical debt from development and it just isn't considered a priority.
yeah, probably
basically every malmstone reward glam is already heavily melee-oriented and those are job agnostic, and there's also other shit like mascot sets, bikinis, etc. that tanks can wear without problem
so the whole integrity thing goes out the window
>no more job unique glams
>no more role unique glams
it's good because all jobs now play the same, right? 2min meta or some shit...
ah frick what do i doom about now
He said they were working on limited race hats when ShB launched newbie.
>i have no hat and i must doom
>it will always be bad nothing good will ever happen and even when something good is poised to happen i will just doom about it anyway
sad way to live
Yeah when he says "we're working on it" for 5 years and there's still no sign of progress anyone who isn't a cultist would realize that his word is worth nothing
This is the kind of moron who still believes in Star Citizen lmao
>i have no hope for the future
>everything they say is just a lie
>but i will sit in these threads and be disgruntled regardless
misery really does love company
AHAHAHAHAHAHHA HOLY SHIT YOU ACTUALLY BOUGHT INTO STAR CITIZEN DIDN'T YOU
you're in the wrong thread
>i have no standards
>you having standards is toxic the game doesn't need to be better
>my chosen corporate best friend can do no wrong
>the previous lies don't count they really mean it this time
>i will sit in these threads and defend my best friend against any and all detractors 24/7 and i don't even play the game
Wild times on XI/v/
>me having standards means being a whiny, intolerable homosexual constantly crying about not getting things quickly enough for my liking and trying to make it everyone else's problems instead of just moving on and quitting something i don't like
inb4
>um ackchually i le love the game i've been playing since 1.0 believe me bro i just want it to be better its just that ew is so much worse than le peak shb you are the one who wants to ruin it!! something something limsa something something mods something something MUH BOZJER WHERES MUH BOZJER YOSHITPISSU
This blizzdrone rat is MELTING
yeah, the blizzdrone really is melting that people see through his doomtrooning
I've played this game long enough to know it improves when the community holds Yoshitpiss's feet to the fire. Meanwhile you're a blizzdrone convert rat who swarmed into the game on asmonghoul's heels and found a new heroin dealer and you're so used to throating corporate wiener and seething at anyone with standards that you don't know any other way to live. Please crawl back to your Californoid glowBlack person hive that you eagerly helped collapse with your lunacy.
homie you guys slop up HW, the worst expansion
hold feet to the fire my ass
stop projecting, wowtroon. go back to your treadmill simulator and stop shitting up our threads just because the woman within is flopping preemptively
Actually I slop up SB, the best expansion. But HW is a good example because the community brought torches and pitchforks after the 3.1 disaster and Yoshitpiss kneeled. If the same thing happened today "if" LMAO, we're in it right now you'd be here screaming bloody murder at people who want to know what the frick is wrong with these morons.
You know nobody buys into this bullshit, right? I know you WoWgays are all trannies and therefore adept at gaslighting and all, but you'll need to try a new angle.
You see, no matter how hard you deflect, the self-evident fact remains that we can literally see you providing no criticism other than "the endtimes have come yoshitpiss always lies, there is no point to anything."
This LARP would work if you were actually offering genuine criticism, not just shouting people down who do have an interest in what comes next and insisting that they abandon all hope because of some gauche doomsaying.
Legitimate criticism is offered pretty often and you shout it down like anything else. And yeah, pointing out that he has said the same thing in the past and failed to follow through is legitimate criticism. It's just that there is no legitimate criticism for you because you are deranged and the truth is you have no interest in the game at all. You don't care if it grows or flounders as long as the 'idea' of the game exists for you to profess worship to.
>Legitimate criticism is offered pretty often and you shout it down like anything else.
Nice straw-argument based on nothing but your convenience.
Again: we can literally all see you're not some font of useful criticism, you're a yawning, gaping abyss, exuding nothing but tweenage angst and jadedness, attempting to stifle genuine discussion of the future of the game with rote, dismissive cynical soundbites about how nothing will ever improve and how anyone who actually likes the game is anathema to it. You don't add anything. You only detract. This is why people don't like you, don't engage with you in earnest and aren't interested in anything you have to peddle; there is no merit to it, and it doesn't inspire anything but dreary, sullen circlejerks.
>You don't care if it grows
I do care, actually. Growing too much has proven to invite cancerous tourists like yourself who just want the game to become like the game you left behind, like Muslims leaving their country behind because Islam ruined it, only to move to a western country and demand it cater to Islam.
>Nice straw-argument based on nothing but your convenience.
There's no strawman, we can see you acting this way in this very thread. In this very reply chain.
>rambling pseud wordsalad
Anyway
>Growing too much has proven to invite cancerous tourists like yourself who just want the game to become like the game you left behind,
lol, this is my game. I was here from day one, when you were on the blizzard forums laughing at "LOL FFXIV 4.0!!!" Which is why I know that this game's revival was founded on the idea that sometimes developers are fricking morons and they need a fire lit under their ass. Everyone but blind cultist homosexuals like you can see the glaring problems going on with this game right now. And they can be fixed, but first morons like you need to frick off and go back to the shithole you came from instead of blocking the devs from criticism. There's nothing the devs can do wrong in your eyes because, as you've already admitted, you don't care if they do anything right in the first place. You just care about having 'your' little space where you feel special because you take first place in the Yoshida dicksucking contest and when the servers have been condensed to a single data center and you log into Limsa and see nobody else except the last remaining multiboxer dancing in front of the market board you're gonna feel real proud of yourself for your loyalty.
>There's no strawman, we can see you acting this way in this very thread. In this very reply chain.
You provided not a single mote of relevant criticism, so no, you didn't.
>Anyway
Oh no, anon can't refute it. Nevertheless, it stands: nobody wants to deal with you because you have nothing to provide, nothing to add, no insights to grace us with. You're nothing more than an oozing well of negativity. And here's the thing: people have no interest in propping up your delirious, hyper-pessimistic delusions just to make you feel better. They want to talk about things they're interested in, that might be fun, or that they would like to see evolve. Not constantly deal with Harry in the corner wanking himself off to how much of a downer he's being and how much higher his IQ is because he <doesn't enjoy thing>.
>Expects me to pay heed to the rest of his diatribe when he deliberately ignored the part that perfectly described him exactly because he can't tussle with it.
Not reading all that but it seems based, nobody likes whiny homosexuals even normalgays would rather cry baby little b***hes just nut up and kill themselves
>You provided not a single mote of relevant criticism
Well there was the whole thing about how you started jacking off because Yoshida said Viera hats were coming and then people who have played the game longer than you let you in on the fact that he said the same thing 4 years ago and you started melting down. But there's also your brief meltdown about Bozja too.
>Oh no, anon can't refute it
There's nothing to refute in your masturbatory pseud rant about the man in your walls.
>You're nothing more than an oozing well of negativity.
You're not special or intelligent for having no standards. I do enjoy the game, which is why I would like it to actually improve instead of having it cut corners and stagnate as it has been doing lately.
>They want to talk about things they're interested in, that might be fun, or that they would like to see evolve.
Things like... Bozja? One of your many trigger words for the past few months? How about job design? I'd like if that evolved, but again that topic sends you into a frothing rage.
Yoshida bozjan job cultist bozja chatGPT shitter mad
Thanks for proving my point.
>Well there was the whole thing about how you started jacking off because Yoshida said Viera hats were coming and then people who have played the game longer than you let you in on the fact that he said the same thing 4 years ago and you started melting down. But there's also your brief meltdown about Bozja too.
So yes, the usual hapless doomsaying that provides not a singular scrap of useful information other than "just give up bros hes always lying game is shit"
>There's nothing to refute in your masturbatory pseud rant about the man in your walls.
Roundabout way of crying that it doesn't count because you don't know how to counter such a pointed and brilliant description of what you are and how little your presence actually adds to these threads.
>You're not special or intelligent
I never said that. That seems to be your sore, aching ego and conscience crying out to you. Got a complex?
>for having no standards
Yes, that's always the cope, isn't it? People can't enjoy what you don't enjoy, they just don't have any standards.
>I do enjoy the game
Sure struggle to see it, with how overwhelmingly you seem to want to peddle mindless doomsaying. You'd think someone enjoying the game would have something positive to say about it, its developers, and ways in which you want to see it improve. Not just "game bad yoshitpiss sucks they always lie abandon hope." Again, this is why people see through your LARP: it's pedestrian. It lacks versimilitude. Rather than flagrantly doomposting and getting mad that people see through it, try to polish your approach a bit so that you at least come across as someone who might distantly actually enjoy the game.
>One of your many trigger words for the past few months?
Speaking of "man in your walls", lmao.
>How about job design? I'd like if that evolved, but again that topic sends you into a frothing rage.
Anything to add other than the tired "job homogenissis bad yoshi kill game 1-button play all jobs same"? hyperbole
The pretending to be a deranged white knight cultist strat is working spectacularly to kill discussion sister, keep it up! LOK'TAR OGAR!
Deranged is thinking anyone will enjoy your cry baby homosexual strat, or even believe your larp that you’ve even played the game
ever consider that we're just not that interested in hearing the 999th shitpostxiv/talesfromdf-core take this month about how healers need more buttons, how bozja is the soul of the game and how all jobs are identical? if anything is homogenized, it's the criticism
it's been discussed to death
let us talk about things we're looking forward to in peace instead without you constantly haranguing us and trying to make us hate the game the way you do
Ever consider that nobody gives a frick what you think and that if you just want blind dev masturbation you should frick off to anywhere else?
My man the entire reason you’re the sole one here spamming your chatGPT slop is because nobody cares about you
>if anything is homogenized, it's the criticism
it's ok when jobs do it
This t b h.
>Today, I'm going to talk about what I'm looking forward to from JP FanF-
>Cultist, it's 4PM, time for your obligatory hourly repetitive "endwalker died because no bozja and streamers are leaving you should be quaking in your boots!" """"""discourse"""""
>Yes honey...
But what about Kate ERP
kate has pronouns on twitter and thats why the game is dead
thats all i know
She's out of a job LMAO
>try to talk about my fears regarding the game's current course and how I hope Dawntrail remedies the glaring problems
>"FRICKING STOP IT NOOWWW!!! STOP STOP NOBODY CARES SHUT THE FRICK UP WE ARE HERE TO STAN YOSHI-P THIS THREAD IS FOR POSITIVITY SHUT THE FRICK UP I DON'T WANT TO HEAR IT STOP!!!!"
Don't reply to me. I've no interest in you. Go jack off in your own little corner if you want.
Wow, negativity much? Talk about things you like, not things you don't like....
I will. Stop squawking in my ears.
>lol, this is my game. I was here from day one,
bro me too bro all these newbies wouldnt get it its so easy bro we just need a good game director to save xiv a game director who knows that what the game really needs right now is a treadmill tied to repeatedly running dungeons on increasingly higher levels of difficulty that are solely based on the health pools and damage output of the bosses going up. its so dumb that all these endfetuses dont understand what we really need and what we were promised criterions would be
I like how this troony has been mindbroken nobody buys his shitty larp
Look man Yoshitpiss said literally the exact same thing about limited race hats when ShB launched over 4 years ago and no amount of deluded Blizzard forum tier cope is gonna change that.
Yes, so quit.
what killed it for me was they dumbed the classes down too much where it was no longer fun to play. I'm a healer and my dps rotation was literally 1 button spam for 80% of it
>cultist
mask slip moment
When you act like a cultist you get called a cultist, it's that simple.
The game is trash
It has always been trash
Its just back (and has been) to the numbers it had before assmongoloid played it for a week
>Its just back (and has been) to the numbers it had before assmongoloid played it for a week
Great. Maybe his orbiters can frick off with him so we can stop having these twitch zoomer threads.
>Game bleeding players is great
Bleeding blizzdrones is always a good thing. If only the cultist rat converts would frick off too.
>shows standard player engagement during an mmo expansion
>WUT HAPPUN ??
Anon, don't try to reason with the wowfugees. They only started late ShB and 1. didn't experience the drought between expansions because EW was already close/released by the time they caught up, and 2. didn't experience any other expansion before and just assume that every expansion experiences as much end-of-expansion engagement as the one that got an impromptu activity injection by a wowfugee exodus and the streamer celebs surrounding it that the handful of minor xiv ecelebs were too busy courting/hosting.
'visual novel mode'
feels like some studios don't have a clue what a videogame is. kojima and bethesda come to mind.
How do we defeat XIV?
They just keep logging in
me. i killed it. it was me all along.
they can't design cool content in this game. engine + shitty netcode doesn't allow for anything cool ever
FFXIV x WoW collab when?
>The most popular wow raid as 24 man in xiv
>LotA/ST/WoD combined as a wow raid
>Limited area for ERPers, Goldshire for ffxiv and Quicksands for wow
>Chocobo mount for WoW, Lich King chocobo barding for XIV
>Omega pet for wow, deathwing for xiv
>Glams
>boss fights
>FFXIV x WoW collab when?
hopefully fricking never
the last thing we need is xiv getting exposed to more wowhomosexualry
Imagine how bad queue times are gonna be in DT.
hopefully not as bad as EW if wowgays are as good as their word (they aren't)
this game would benefit from being a bit smaller, because every mmo with too big a community (and too large of a portion of a certain type of mmo-player) turns to shit
reject online mmo wars and twitch zoomerisms, retvrn to comfy
Sorry, I meant the duty queue times, since nobody likes playing healer anymore and they're adding 2 new DPS jobs next expansion. It'd be hilarious if the new DCs and worlds are still empty next expansion though.
the astroturfing is over and done with, all the WoWchads brainwashed by their surrogate friends (i.e. e-celebs) into trying it have already tried your ERP chat room and gone back to the actual videogame. you probably won't even have queue times at all.
Absolutely fuming
God I hope you're right. 2021 was a mistake and wowgays need to leave.
>no mentally ill wowtrannies and e celeb zoomies
When doomposting is hopeposting, who do you think is the one afking in limsa homie
It's been two months since 6.5
6.55 still weeks away
Promised XVI collab hasn't happened (why announce it at an earlier fan fest if it's going to happen after the next one)
Promised bringing back of Yo-kai Watch etc events haven't happened
No one liked Fallgays
No one played the island or variant dungeon updates
>(why announce it at an earlier fan fest if it's going to happen after the next one)
Because they didn't have the preview for the lifestyle content prepared like they intended and needed to fill time in the keynote.
lmao lol
you really believe those lies? they're holding as much shit for japan, they don't care about NA or EU.
>learn about mare
>now i live in constant "is this dude a modbeast?" mindset every day
The ERPing bozjan yoshit hat cultists with the limsa homogenization standing and resolving in their mare exploratory content have been here since 1.0 ITS MY FRICKING GAME
Im not paying more than 1 month unless eureka soul is back on the menu, simple as
Post em, no rerolls allowed
If you guys are just gonna do reruns, then I'm gonna talk about Zodiark Trance.
god these threads are awful
have any of you cleared or doneanything meaningful in-game during the past month?
if you aren't subbed, why are you here?
Specifically to make you mad
I cleared my room irl which holds more meaning than whatever there is to clear in-game...
I'm subbed but I've barely played the game for the past month. I spent the time playing Pokemon and building a living dex instead.
Anyone else have a long-time friend group slowly evaporate from 6.0 toward 6.5?
Me and my friends run a guild, and we've been together atleast 3-4 years by now (I'm bad at visualizing time so I don't know exactly, but its a point I can't imagine playing without them). And like, Endwalker started off really hype for us! But golly, it's like every patch that came in it felt like "Okay nothing new for us to do".
One of my friends were super excited for relics...then their relic was just a tome buy. Another friend was super excited for criterion dungeons...then it's really just a choose-your-own-adventure that you do once. Then I was excited for Island Sanctuary...but then it was just kind of an idle game without the idle part.
I guess you could call it burn out, but we would take multiple-months breaks between subbing just to comeback for like maybe a week and thinking "Yeah this ain't it". I think the most fun we'd have was when they finally added deep dungeon, but we didn't even do that too often just because its a nuisance to organize compared to other content.
I don't really have any grand conclusions or statements about FFXIV, I'm just wondering if anyone else has a similar experience and if it's just me or just how the game is currently.
Me and my friends still talk and stuff, just not really about FF or on FF.
https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxivdiscussion/comments/174pd7h/anyone_else_have_a_longtime_friend_group_slowly/
>doomtrooners plucking posts off reddit again
holy desperate
>Play XVI
>Weapons have NO EFFECTS
>Not even the frickin Omega weapon
We never getting even a fricking thing in this game that goes beyond stat dump, are we?
go play ESO or something
He unironically should. It has more players than XIV.
>"only eso has items that are beyond stat stick"
are you xiv brained monogamer? Is this post bait
I refuse to believe someone can be this inbred
Do you talk about monster hunter stories in the monster hunter threads up right now
I talk about Morrowind in Skyrim threads. And I talk about Final Fantasy, Final Fantasy II, Final Fantasy III, Final Fantasy IV, Final Fantasy V, Final Fantasy VI, Final Fantasy VII, Final Fantasy VIII, Final Fantasy IX, Final Fantasy X, Final Fantasy XI, Final Fantasy XII, Final Fantasy XIII, Final Fantasy XV, Final Fantasy XVI, Final Fantasy Tactics, Final Fantasy Tactics Advanced, Final Fantasy Tactics Advanced 2 - Grimoire of the Rift, and World of Final Fantasy in Final Fantasy XIV threads.
Ya seethe?
Call your parents and tell them you love them, it will make you feel a lot better than that shitty post
Yoshidas biggest achievement in his career is to restructure a game under time and ressources crunch
He is great accountant/producer. He is a shit designer
or wow
or pso2
or poe
or lost ark
or new world
or literarily any other mmo or rpg game
yeah exactly go frick off to a different game i'm not even saying this as an insult or to offend you just go enjoy something else
>go play ESO or something
>or something
>ONLY ESO
i wonder if some of you just try to be as annoying as possible, it's no wonder you hate the social aspect of xiv who the frick wants to hang out with a lil b***h homie like you?
>i wonder if some of you just try to be as annoying as possible
argumentative*
but yes, it does really seem like there are too many people with too much time on their hands and a stick up their ass here
jonny deep trial was the first time i saw ever anyone use "argumentative" , contrarian is a much better word to describe what is meant.
contrarian can work, but contrarian is kind of predicated on the idea that someone is deliberately taking a contrary position to the popular consensus simply because it's the popular consensus. argumentative is more neutral; just referring to someone who argues with people for the sake of arguing, not with any greater point to it
i dont believe contrarian is tied to consensus.
latin contra =against, so someone who will oppose anyone just for the sake of opposing. It includes the intention already while "argumentative" lacks the purpose/motivation behind arguments.
>a person who opposes or rejects popular opinion,
>opposing or rejecting popular opinion or current practice.
it's funny, though, that we're being argumentative about argumentative vs contrarian
>it's no wonder you hate the social aspect of xiv who the frick wants to hang out with a lil b***h homie like you?
nooo it has nothing to do with me being an unlikeable caustic sperg, it has to do with real social interaction being uhh... for limsa trannies! the only good social interaction is "lf1m [dungeon]" for 2 hrs and calling someone a slur for not being as efficient in faceroll content as you want.
go play some korean trash if you want attentionwhoring glowshit
moronsama...i..i dont even know where i need to begin...
First, xiv moron, your game is full of glowBlack persony like a cheap korean game.
Second, esl chama, that not what "beyond stat stick" means". Its about abilities
j*nny sure doesnt seem to be in a hurry to prune or autosage this thread
hmmm
That’s for the fanfests
jannies only prune/autosage threads that aren't getting terrorised by wowtroons
Real talk SoD was fricking horrible
i havent played it (nor will i ever) but im sure people are still coping that its the start of their epik kino bazingo bingus classic+ that will save wow
>Come home, coomer
what ps1 game is this?
Lineage 2
I'm not sure what this image is supposed to convey. There was a giant spike with an expac release period and then it returned to a fairly high and consistent line? That's incredibly good.
something something twitch views, something something mmo console wars something something my mmo beats your mmo something something did your mmo just lose a small portion of active subscribers it's so fricking over end of service next month we win my game wins
If I wanted elaborate RPG mechanics in my MMO, I'd play an MMO that touts it, not the one MMO that deliberately eschews it, t b h.
If I wanted to play a single player cinematic game with no RPG elements I'd go play whatever sonyslop just came out instead of subbing to an mmorpg and whining until every last bit of rpg elements were cut out, but here you are.
Just realize that you are making this argument in an MMO that is practically infamous for being extremely light on its rpg features since the start.
I don't like a bunch of arbitrary rpg elements in my MMO that only provide fake depth and more often than not amount to nothing but an annoyance, so I play the one MMO that goes out of its way to cull them.
You like a bunch of arbitrary rpg elements in your MMO, and you play the one MMO that goes out of its way to cull them instead of the bevy of other MMOs that do exactly what you want.
????
Quite literally nothing I played the game since the ALPHA.
I personally play every other patch for 2~3 months and then quit.
Square decided on this when Stormblood came out. And thats that really. We can't change it. It's still a good game but content will be basically more of the same with different visuals.
I personally play it mostly for the story these days.
Stop criticizing the game chud. If you don't like it, go unsub and play WoW instead.
>If you don't like it, go unsub and play WoW instead.
This but unironically.
this but unironically
"guys in 5 minutes i'll throw my skill so you can chain from it"
damn that was difficult sheesh my social anxiety through the roof ong fr
>*saves you from Kate*
B-based?
He's got a really long face
>why cant XIV be more like my game, WoW!??
why not just play WoW?
My game is not wow
wow... nobody cares
>trade for build you looked up online
>mash 1 button repeatedly to explode the entire screen every 5 nanoseconds
Nice RPG
Lmao PoE gays are insufferable.
>Leagues of unnerfed MF and LA/TS shit
>HH and MB horrible for the game
>no new ubers forever
>trade league chock full of rmt
>La/TS/aurabot gays superior, nothing comes close. go run defiled cathedral 24/7 so you can get mb and quit 2 days later
Anyone still playing Chris's wild gambling ride is insane
D4 sucks troony, like ZIV.
>I won an internet argument against some chud on Ganker
>using facts and logic and my superior debating skills!
>the game is still shit tho
Dragonflight
>nooo why even bother to add any choices or options, everyone will just use the best one (even though in many of those games people still try shit despite being suboptimal)
It's like those people that say "noo why would I even play fighting games/ comp shooters, I'll just lose haha why bother". I don't know why that just pops up into my head.
iI won't raid because everyone cheats so it's meaningless
not really analogous
one is an inevitability as a course of dealing with other people in an online environment who will want you to be as optimal as possible
the other is just basic defeatism
No you're completely right. It's just that for some reason the two are ringing together in my head reading this thread, where usually they don't. Sorry for being weird anon
You're not weird, and I wasn't trying to imply that you were.
Why bother adding the story if people gonna watch it on youtube?
Irrefutable
the game just isn't for you
it's ok not every game has to appeal to your needs
I know this is a shitpost, but it's unironically true.
If you don't like the very foundation of a game, why play it over the ones that you do like? Why would you expect it to change fundamentally to cater to (You)?
>shitpost
how is it a shitpost when it's true
you don't like counter strike and prefer call of duty? good, you go play call of duty and you don't tell counter strike players what their game should be like
>how is it a shitpost when it's true
I figured you were being sarcastic.
it's a basic concept to just try things and enjoy them if you like them and leave them alone if you don't
like would you watch a nolan movie and then go "wow this is too melodramatic" and tell nolan to change it up because you didn't like it?
you can draw many examples from that and you even get people like
in these threads like what's the purpose?
so many mmos and you need to try to change the one you don't even play or like?
wowgays should have kept their mouth shut when they came over during shb because whatever change they suggested and was applied was terrible and now people blame the devs for listening to the shitty players
>it's a basic concept to just try things and enjoy them if you like them and leave them alone if you don't
You would think so.
Clearly, that concept is beyond mmogays and Ganker.
that's why the /vg/ threads are unironically better at least people play the game and enjoy it in their own way you even get people hosting pf parties
these Ganker threads are already beyond salvation
Player choice is picking up the role they want to play and to a specific job lesser extend.
Build is made from devs so players won't have to waste time thinking about it. Just get the higher ilvl item, clear shit and then go show off weapon on limsa while being /afk.
Alright, let's settle this.
Dubs and ffxiv is better than WoW.
good xiv is worse than wow now all the wowgays can go back to there and stop talking about xiv or demanding that xiv caters more to their wowbrain sensibilities
XIV bros...we're #7...
>BG3 and warframe
>mmo
What the frick did they mean by this
>warframe doesnt count as an mmo!
You REALLY dont want pul the "real mmo" card as hallway simulator pvp chat disabled 14 player bro.
Your bait is moronic and you should kill your self
>your self
shut up brown hallway Black person
at least it wasn't "you're self".
You first. Your 4-8 player content isn't even Massively Multiplayer. Hell it's barely even a game, more like an ERP chat room. Massively Multiplayer Online Role-playing Game? More like just an Online. That's it. I'm going to starting calling FFXIV an Online, because that's the only correct word when calling it an MMORPG.
Pretty sure if I posted the stuff that has 100+ player stuff you would b***h about it not counting. Your post is pointless and you should have a nice day
>Your 4-8 player content isn't even Massively Multiplayer.
This. It's Massively Multiplayer only in Eureka/Bozja
deserved all the games above are better
>BG3
>MMO
cast surrender to madness for posting this garbage website honestly
i hope it becomes #20 if that means all the annoying homosexuals frick off back to their home-mmo
I will stop when xivthreads go back to /vg/
they will go back to /vg/ when the wow ones do
WoW is a cultural phenomenon and the most successful videogame in existence.
Your "game" is just an ERP chat room for modded abominations.
kek 14 really is just second life 2
Imagine playing FFXIV instead of VRChat for that experience
that's insulting to second life, it has better character customization and housing
it's more like second life 0.7
great but it has to go back to /vg/
Ganker has always been a Blizzchad board. Feel free to close Ganker and frick off to the containment board.
that's great. i'll consider that when wow returns to /vg/ and takes its threads with it
>blizz
>chad
?
Are these wow threads in the room with us?
Nothing. It's the same lull as always between patches and expacs except with more seethe from WOWgays as an aftermath from all the trolling done during their latest failed expansions. (wasn't really worth it imo since most of them are just fadchasers who don't care about the game they're playing)
It was expected after sod was so fricking horrible
The real depressing part is that these "people" are probably here to stay. Bouncing between WoW and XIV when one looks to be more active than the other.
We are doomed, but not in the way doomposters imply.
NTA but you doing really a revision here to shitpost
The division between ERP trannies and Raid trannies and their autism was already poison for the game way before most of xivg knew what asmongold was
Lets not pretend yoshida and his team didnt add a bunch of moronic shit prior because of moronic feedback of the moronic """core""" fanbase
no revisionism here
wowgays are cancer
and now that they caught the scent, they'll use xiv over and over again to tide them over while waiting for wow to release a thing
Yeah the wowgays added diadem and gordias and islands
>Meanwhile wowgays provably are the ones that requested Criterion, the only good content in endwalker
I take wowgay feedback above xenos and erp troony feedback every time
wowgays are melting down that their muh criterion isnt m+
nice try though
How does that disprove what i say? Are you ESL?
He is still right tho, the ones that requested 4man dungeon content was Baldmangold and Richthelala rapist
meanwhile """comfy""" ERP homies requested islands and xenos cried for 4 years about "gib ultimate"
Irrefutable
go back
I dont want to grind 4 hours to be able to play 10 minutes
wowBlack folk getting uppity again
lashing out and seething at other games is the only thing that can distract them from the situation of their own game
don't begrudge them their desperation and fervor
>the situation of their own game
Shadowlands has proven that Blizzard can take a massive diarrhea shit on their own game and it will STILL be the king of MMOs. Cope.
good point
not sure if it casts a flattering light on wow and its players, but it is indeed a very good point
then the xivcultists should stop seething at wow. lmao
Where’s your sod thread bro where are your players
>cultist still seething
I am only seething at the fact that you zombies are still stinking up my game.
>console wars-tier tribalism
is this board nothing but brown "people"?
That is a cute raen
>board
The whole world homie, whites are like 6% of the planet
uh oh wowgay meltie
I went back to WoW. Its simply the better game
>asmongoold exodus
2730 days subbed means I joined far, far before that.
nice inspect element edit
>I went back to WoW. Its simply the better game
Cheers. Good riddance.
I don't get it. Wasn't I supposed to take a break after I finished everything I wanted to do? I'll come back for a couple of months for the final Hildibrand story and to grind the weapons, then I'll take a break until Dawntrail.
WOW WON THE CULTURE WAR KEK, TROONS LOST
>contradicting yourself in the same sentence
?
WoW has troony NPCs. XIV has troony players. You can ignore tidbits like this, you can't ignore the HRT-addled drama queens harassing and stalking you.
Yes, xiv does have wowtroony refugees thank frick they are leaving
literally other way round.
you have to play the troony wow quests.
You dont have to play with troony players.
They even filter themselves for you sticking to lgbt guilds.
WoW has
>troony npcs
>troony devs
>troony players
>troony gods
I dont think anyone plays retail. Hell i dont kniw why they keep charging for expansions since everyone is playing sod and classic
>wow has troony NPCs
And devs, and community managers, and artists, and in game events, and sound designers, and conventions, and players and
>can't ignore troon NPCs. your sub fee directly goes to the troons working at blizzard
>can ignore and even completely erase troon players from XIV
this is an obvious blizztroon L.
so trve xister
>harassing and stalking you.
I have literally never interacted with one in 5 years.
I guess you might find them if you AFK at Limsa for eight hours a day but you can't be surprised when you find mentally ill attention prostitutes in the mentally ill attention prostitute containment zone.
Same. I haven't had to deal with a troon at any point during play.
you've had to deal with the wowtroons in this thread
I did say "during play".
>wow won
>troons lost
oxymoronic post
end of expansion content drought
It’s funny because Diablo 4 and OW2 also suck massive fricking ass
XIV should really take note on WoW healer design.
why are wowgays so obsessed with xiv?
I dunno I assume Blizzard shat their diapers again or something because that's usually why w*wgays double up on their seethe at XIV and other games they consider an enemy to theirs.
It’s basically just sod being giga shit and definitely some last ditch effort to boost a quarter or something
>SoD didn't have the legs to survive for more than two months or so
Shooketh. Gilded dreams of classic+ gone, like dust in the wind.
Now that I think of it, it could also be in preparation for FanFest. Not sure.
i think it's just people realizing Season of Whatever was just, as our resident schizo would say, "a fart in the wind".
I wish I could pretend to be shaken up by that revelation.
Turns out repackaging classic+ with some toddler tier hamfisted "retail ability"-scavenger hunt minigame didn't have that much longevity.
The instant it was revealed it would be gating leveling into brackets was the biggest red flag imaginable. It was
>ok how do we get people to resub multiple times for 2-4 days of le streamer HOYPE
Like it’s a pretty smart scam. Get people to resub for 1 week of content, then do it again in le season 1 part 2 or whatever. You don’t even need to make a whole new league like any other fricking game that does seasonal gimmicks, just arbitrarily haunt progress.
>ok how do we get people to resub multiple times for 2-4 days of le streamer HOYPE
That's probably exactly what it was. Staggered level bracket releases so they can "soft-rerelease" SoD several times and artificially pump up the numbers and "hyep"
Same thing with wow threads really. XIVgays have one hell of an inferiority complex. XIV's story as of 6.1 isn't even worth bragging about anymore. Yeah it's better than whatever the frick Dragonflight was trying to be, but thats not saying much.
i wouldn't know i don't browse threads for shit games
What threads, wow is legit dead. There was more yesterday with some pajeet bumping it everytime it was about to be archived. Had like 120 posts in 36 hours
>wow threads isn’t just full of old jaded wow players
lol
Bad story to many cutscenes.
the last time I felt that xiv was an MMORPG was early EW when people were doing those big boss FATEs in Ultima Thule and Thavnair and that wasn't even close to Bozja or Eureka...
gonna cry?
no, been unsubbed for a while. it's cheaper to spend money on commissions than "playing" this game lmao
shut up b***h homie you say it was the last time it felt like an MMORPG when you were just sitting in the corner being quiet maybe at most your stuttering ass said "l-l-l-lfg" and then you went back to doing your thing which was being a loser
true sister! me and 3-7 other homies are already considered lots of people to be considered Massive! Massive like our dicks, am I right straight non-troony Black folk?
When 1.0 failed, they wanted to make their money back. so, they recycled more assets from XI, and took elements of WoW and other games that were doing well.
What they ended up with, is a global chatroom for a co-op game with a focus on the story. The gameplay works, but it's the same things you'll find in toys for little kids - it's memorising your rotation, doing it in every single fight for around 20 minutes, and sometimes having to remember to move or click somewhere. It's very easy for people who don't play MMORPGs - games that tend to take a lot of time to understand, to play this one.
We used to make fun of XIV a lot, lot more on Ganker. Even back then, XIV was popular with morons. Your progression even back then, was held back by having to deal with really stupid people and people really unfamiliar with games in general. It's unironically popular now with zoomers, and it's no wonder. WoW and XIV have always attracted actual fricking morons. The whole business model is dragging in other morons.
Catering to smart people doesn't make any money. This is why WoW's moronic sparkly horse made more money on its own than fricking Starcraft 2, because RTS games have a minimum requirement of 600 actions per minute to even win against the easiest AI, let alone a human player.
>RTS games have a minimum requirement of 600 actions per minute to even win against the easiest AI
Thats just BS. SC2 storymode is piss easy.
The problem is they want more money and failed to convert starcraft into a live service with cashshop where they can fleece players permanently.
tldr: RTS is a niche because you cant gachafy it.
it's called a hyperbole you actual autist
hyperbole is exaggerating the problem but the problem is still not difficulty. Its monetization.
oh yeah forget about the crap with tournaments too. They wanted $ for the right to hold tournaments. Imagine basketball manufacturers holding the NBA hostage.
They did that israeli shit with custom games and basically killed SC2 for most normal people then killed it for the autist because they did israeli shit with the tournament scene
u gay
even the dead mmo is more popular then xiv
>even xiv is more popular than xiv
huh?
REMINDER
CHEATS TIER LIST
S TIER: WORSE THAN ANYTHING AVAILABLE IN WOW
>splatoon
draws aoes, markers, tethers in the arena in real time with full access to every visible and invisible entity and their position.
no such addon exists in wow and if it existed it would be swiftly banned by blizzard
>cammy
allows you to zoom out way farther than the game allows by default
no such addon exists in wow
>xivslothcombo
allows you to automate your rotation by mashing a single button
would be considered botting in wow and banned
>noclippy
spoofs your client to send out data mimicking 0-15ms ping, allowing you to play as if lagless
would be immediately banned by blizzard
A TIER: SAME SHIT AS WOW
>cactbot
same as dbm, makes automated callouts and sounds for mechanics
>automarkers
automatically marks people in combat with machine precision
>xivcombo
less egregious than xivsloth as it is restr6ited only to redundant buttons and classes such as MNK don't have any combos available
B TIER: INFORMATION THAT IS TECHNICALLY VISIBLE
>ACT
dps parser
>UI improvements and simpletweaks
shows shit like slidecast marker, mp tick, own hitbox
C TIER: NITPICKING AT THIS POINT
>reshade
visual enhancer
>discord
lol
D TIER: NOT CHEATS
>cosmetic mods
>bigger monitor/2nd monitor
>165fps instead of 60
>keyboard and mouse
>sticky notes on 2nd monitor
>165 fps
why would higher fps be cheating?
>Getting this upset over a PvE game
You should honestly have a nice day
what i want:
UI addons
- display lvl on items
- display class icons on gear in armory
- save gear stored in retainers and automatically suggest getting gear usable whenever you hit a lvl up
>cammy
>doesn't exist in WoW
expect that you unlock the max zoom via a console command idiot
>be me
>join a duty
>me: "o/"
>kill the final boss
>me: "gg"
man this ffxiv game just doesn't feel like an mmo
Not wrong, but Eureka and Bozja do feel like proper MMO zones with dozens of players trying to do objectives at the same time.
Thats why you wont get those in dawntrail
Pretty sure we are getting something like that
>be me
>join a dungeon
>nobody says anything
>complete silence
>accidentally pull one (1) mob
>we kill it easily
>nobody says anything
>suddenly loading screen
>i've been kicked from the dungeon
nice MMO wowtroons
it's because you are a shy quiet b***h ass Black person to embarassed to say anything else but stutter "h-hello" and then you went back to doing your thing which was being a loser