Genuinely one of the best demos I've ever played. Pure kino. Got Goosebumps when the two dominants were epically battling during the cutscene. Also never seen a game do qtes for doors and it was super badass, the PS5's adaptive triggers really shine here. Story is also great, it's refreshing to finally get a grimdark fantasy game with complex characters that have sex and are more than just one dimensional tropes like in GoT.
Gameplay is also pure bliss. It was so sick jumping into dudes and mashing square for a while, never had to use a potion either so wasnt frustrating at all. Flashy, beautiful graphics accentuate all of Clive's moves too and it ran at a solid 4k 60fps the whole time. The Eikon challenge was even better because I had variations of the same move but with different particle effects.
True system seller and youre missing out if you dont play this game
YOOOOOO THIS GAMEPLAY IS CRINGY ZOINKS FIRE BUSSINGA FRFR
YOOOOOOOO THIS GAMEPLAY IS BUZZINGA FRFR
IM GLAD BOOMER FF IS DEAD
I had moved on. But then Square Enix keeps digging up Final Fantasy's corpse and puppeteering it in distinctly unFF-like ways.
And I am no fan. At all.
Either make a real Final Fantasy or make actually new games.
FF16 could have been a Mana game or a brand new property. If nothing else it could at least have been a spin-off.
Yup, this is why I compared it to RE4 remake. These stupid frickers aren't final fantasy fans. They are stupid fricking shills who shit on past games and the majority of the fanbase
lmao this looks like shit
what happened to killing enemies in 2-3 hits. and actual strategy of selecting an attack that may or may not work, and reaping those consequences
this is just button mash-a-thon and dodge roll bullshit
FF died at X.
It's been a while since I was this excited for AAA release.
This demo was phenomenal on every level. I was expecting that end, but not the brutality.
Mad man Yoshida is winning again.
I would recommend getting it checked by a technician.
I'm pretty sure your thermal paste dried out, and it likely the air flow is being disrupted by dust.
All the conversations surrounding this demo seem like both sides are trolling just to argue with each other. I just want the truth, bros. Is it good or not?
I enjoyed some aspects but absolutely loathed others. If you ask me if this should be the defacto format for FF going forward, I would say no. I thought it tries way too hard to be GoW + GoT but barely tries to be FF + DMC.
I had moved on. But then Square Enix keeps digging up Final Fantasy's corpse and puppeteering it in distinctly unFF-like ways.
And I am no fan. At all.
Either make a real Final Fantasy or make actually new games.
FF16 could have been a Mana game or a brand new property. If nothing else it could at least have been a spin-off.
>good turn-based games play like an action game >good action games play like a fighting game >good fighting games play like a turn-based game
FF has never been more FF than now
>FF2
I can't make my own characters? This isn't Final Fantasy >FF3
You change jobs instead of having set ones? This isn't Final Fantasy >FF4
ATB? This isn't Final Fantasy >FFV
This is just FF3 over again, which isn't Final Fantasy >FFVI
Female protagonist? This isn't Final Fantasy >FFVII
Cities and Materia? This isn't Final Fantasy >FFVIII
GF? Draw System? This isn't Final Fantasy >FFIX
What is this trance shit? This isn't Final Fantasy >FFX
Voice acting? This isn't Final Fantasy >FFXI
MMO? This isn't Final Fantasy >FFXII
Gambit system? This isn't Final Fantasy >FFXIII
Stagger system? Vehicle summons? This isn't Final Fantasy >FFXIV
Another MMO? This isn't Final Fantasy >FFXV
Action combat? This isn't Final Fantasy
11 months ago
Anonymous
damn Final Fantasy was really the final fantasy. It's over.
11 months ago
Anonymous
I'll take "things that never happened" for $200 alex
Final Fantasy was only turn based for 17 years (1987-2001)
It has been 22 years since the last turn based Final Fantasy. It is objectively not a turn based series any more
>Final Fantasy was only turn based for 17 years (1987-2001)
You mean the good majority of the franchise? >It has been 22 years since
Ah. You mean the but a small handful of titles they've managed to push out since?
Why do you think the latter is more representative than the former?
If they spent 50 years on just two Final Fantasies, but made them Point & Click Adventure games. Would Final Fantasy the franchise all of a sudden be a franchise of Point & Click Adventure games or would just the last two and radically different entries be Point & Click Adventure games? That they spent 50 years on them would be entirely irrelevant.
If Nintendo spent 100 years on the next Mario game. And it was an FPS. It wouldn't mean that Mario isn't still a franchise of platformers.
Original Fallout is the latter. Bethesda's is the former.
And at least no one is moronic enough to even make the argument that the latter plays like the former. But with Final Fantasy there are always at least a couple of shills who absolutely insist that the new games still play like Final Fantasy.
>Turn based and ATB was a cope, they always wanted it to be action.
Are you just shitposting?
Action games existed before FF1. And Squaresoft themselves developed action games. And when Final Fantasy received its own action games. They made them spin-offs because of the gameplay deviation.
You do the most damage when they're staggered and near the end of the stagger window (the damage multiplier goes up as they are closer to regaining their will)
Suzuki showed off the gameplay and kinda btfo the "damage sponge" narrative.
To be honest I found it the opposite, normal mobs die too fast for the combos to fully play out
stagger is way too op, bosses just get deleted by titan
they're not. you melt through common mobs instantly and while the bosses take an appropriate amount of time you literally can never get hit so there's no danger of dying
Regular enemies die too fast in the 2nd part of the demo when you have a full moveset, maybe they just gave you a busted sword for that demo cause they mention you have gear and moves that you wouldn't normally have that early but anything that doesn't have a stagger bar dies in half a combo
Nah, he'll seethe and think up some new copes, pretend all his embarassing old copes never happened and continue on, shitting even harder on VII Rebirth.
He has experienced humiliations on numerous occasions in the past and keeps coming back for more. He will simply employ his enviable selective memory and act like he hasn't been btfo.
I hope not. I'd much rather he finds something that brings him joy and spends his time with it more than actively choosing to be angry all day. It's sad.
He's to stupid and mentally ill to have the kind of self reflection required for suicide. Don't worry though, he'll be the 7R friend's problem soon enough.
>Ganker
Barry hates it and makes up probably more than 50% of all the negative posts singlehandedly. From what I've seen most people seem generally positive on the game.
Follow me, boy o'er the rolling green meadows
Follow the flames and arise from the shadows
Hear the Rosarian voices outring,
Fanned by the firebird's life-giving wings
Oh, on the wind borne
O'er the great land of Storm
Turn up your eyes to the boundless blue heavens
See how the fire in the firmament beckons
>Joshua thinks that everyone in the feast would prefer Clive over him as Archduke >Clive doesn't join the feast because he doesn't think himself worthy to be with the men.
>I would rather not touch old stuff since nostalgia plays a big part as to why people still enjoy them.
What a lazy-frick way to dismiss games that just don't resonate with you.
11 months ago
Anonymous
I'm a firm believer that the reason why so many of the older games feel good is because of nostalgia.
Take Homm 3 for example, amazing game - my friends unironically all prefer 5 and 7 because they didn't grow up with it like me. Same with Baldurs Gate 2, I love rpgs and crpgs in particular but after playing Pathfinder 1 and 2 I've tried getting into BG2 multiple times but it just doesn't hold.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>I'm a firm believer that the reason why so many of the older games feel good is because of nostalgia.
That's probably because you're an extremely vapid person.
Both XVI and XIV are different games.
The first is what you have seen on yt.
The latter is an mmo, so it might not be your cup of tea. Still, great game anyway, play it everyday.
If you enjoy 16, then 14's probably going to be your cup of tea too. Even though it's an MMO they're both made by the same team and have a lot in common - and they've spent the last two years going back through the entire game and making sure you can play almost the whole thing singleplayer. Just make sure you start in Ul'dah (the other two starting zones are shit) and have patience with the first stretch of the game because it's a rough start (they had to remake the entire game in a single year because the original FF14 was such a fricking disaster they literally blew it up with a meteor in-game).
Oh yeah, and it's the main game that Soken produces music for and it's filled with absolute bangers:
11 months ago
Anonymous
>the other two starting zones are shit
11 months ago
Anonymous
Well okay Limsa's fine I GUESS, but Gridania's a miserable slog of back to back fetch quests.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Hey, I'm not going to disagree with you. Your opinion is valid. I would hope you would consider mine is as well. Maybe just don't push anon into a desert run by the corrupt. Each starting zone is viable to some, and we both know he'd eventually get to UD one way or another.
11 months ago
Anonymous
If you're staring with FF as a whole
AVOID 15 and 13 as the plague, they are objectively the 2 worst entries in the whole franchise.
everything else is fair game.
1 to 6 had a pixel remaster last year, so you can check any of em, 6 is considered by many as the absolute best.
The original 7-8-9 are on steam, but will require a little modding to fix old pc games stuff, like the OST being MIDI. althou 7 and 9 are regarded as two of the best FF out of all.
10, 10-2 and 12 also got remasters on steam if you want stuff from the PS2 era, Japan considers 10 the best of all, while 12 is in a cult classic position, not bad, but it has it's flaws, it's a very nice game if you like lore and politics, it focus less on the fantasy and more on the war between nations aspect.
11 would be the first mmo, it's an old mmo, everquest style, so prob not a nice thing to try if you don't understand and enjoy that old school hardcore stuff.
13-1-2-3 are the ps3 era entries, as ive said before, very bad.
14 is the 2nd MMO, It's the highest rated FF game since ff12, and hailed by many fans as amongst the top 5(others being 6,7,8 and 10), it still getting updates which make easier for a solo play thru most of the story, meaning you can experience almost all the story without even having to talk to another human being, if you're one of the "anxiety" people who get nervous with human interactions.
as for 15, it's a mess, the story is spread between books, movies, anime and the game itself, it was an aborted attempt of making it a "franchise"
I'd honestly suggest that you start with 14 as it's the most recent, good, and beginner friendly.
the base game and the first xpac are part of the free trial, the team doing 16 were the ones responsible for this first xpac(Heavensward), so you can see what the composer and writer are capable of delivering in the old FF medieval style.
the music of Heavensward is also absolutely amazing
I dig the story and world of FF. I tried the MMO about 2 years ago (14) and it was a slog fest for me. Got to level 30 and quit. I remember I didn't listen to the story since I was playing with a bud and we were just rushing to end game. There was a lot of mundane go to A B then C then B then C etc quests.
Has that changed in any way? Also is the story good? Comparable to the story of the single player games or does it feel like "MMO" story?
11 months ago
Anonymous
The MMOs are legitimately bad, they have a derranged cult of followers who will shill it because of stockholm syndrome but its legitimately the worst shit ever; like the FF14 shills unironically say shit like "it gets good 300 hours in!", it never gets good.
11 months ago
Anonymous
The story is genuinely good, but it takes a while to hit its stride. As I said, FF14 2.0 was rebuilt in only a year and they had to cut corners writing-wise as a result, but Heavensward is genuine kino and the game's story doesn't dip below "good" after you hit it.
You should try to get invested in the story from the very start however, since the base game sets up a lot of stuff that pays off further down the line - the Crystal Tower alliance raid storyline for example constantly gets call backs. And as I suggested, starting in Ul'dah is the best way to do this since its starting story is the best of the lot.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>this trash >good
11 months ago
Anonymous
Yeah, it's pretty good.
11 months ago
Anonymous
It's kino.
god, even when bending over backwards to frame it in the most moronic light possible, the ending of shb is raw kino.
xiv cultists really have no standards
11 months ago
Anonymous
Im sorry your taste is shit anon. theres nothing wrong with being a contrarian dont get me wrong.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Could be worse.
Could think XV is unironically good. Now that would be truly terrible.
11 months ago
Anonymous
It is objectively better than XIV
11 months ago
Anonymous
It's kino.
11 months ago
Anonymous
god, even when bending over backwards to frame it in the most moronic light possible, the ending of shb is raw kino.
11 months ago
Anonymous
they have significantly reduced the amount of quests in ARR aswell as put a system that lets you run dungeons with NPCs.
with that said, ARR is the slog part of XIV, very mmo ish and very dull, the game picks up at the end of it during the "Bloody banquet" at the very end of ARR, from this moment on the game gets much, MUCH, better and you also start the Heavensward arc.
truth be told, just speed thru ARR until this banquet scene, and start paying att from there on.
I have tried this game 3 times before sticking with it too, 2 times i got stuck during that 30 or so lvls and quit, the third time i went thru this slog and ended up loving it, what comes after the base game can't even be compared, its a huge leap in quality.
11 months ago
Anonymous
DID YOU JUST FRICKING CALL IT A SLOG!? ITS THE FILTER YOU moron
11 months ago
Anonymous
It's both.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>it's shit on purpose dude
come on now
11 months ago
Anonymous
Youve obviously never guzzled yoshi-p's cum, otherwise you would think its the greatest thing ever
11 months ago
Anonymous
shut the frick up Barry I can think ARR is shit and FFXVI is going to be game of the year
11 months ago
Anonymous
Thats reasonable, Im waiting til it drops on PC
11 months ago
Anonymous
It feels like an MMO story since you have a mute, player created character. You'll be going around helping NPCs with a lot of things. That sort of thing, but that's common in single-player games these days.
But you're description of the gameplay is accurate. You go from A, to B, then C and so forth. And this is all done when you only have a small part of your job's kit. So, the main draw of FFXIV in the early game is the story. Since you didn't pay attention to it, you may still like it if you give it another try. But if you don't like the story, you're not gonna like the experience of playing the game.
At least there's a free trial with the base game and first expansion with no playtime limit. But if you want to register for the free trial, you cannot use your old account if you subscribed with it. freetrial.finalfantasyxiv.com/
11 months ago
Anonymous
>It feels like an MMO story since you have a mute, player created character.
He's not mute, there are explicit dialogue options. He also talks all the time but the game hides the dialogue from you for some reason.
They should have just voiced the WoL. The way they approach """mutism""" is fricking moronic.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>They should have just voiced the WoL. The way they approach """mutism""" is fricking moronic.
GW2 voiced their protag, and it's much much worse than XIV.
one of their writers once went on a sperg rage at twitter calling people idiots for suggesting branching options for dialogue even if it means not changing the course of action, for the sake of flavour.
it ended up with her and another long time writer being fired the very next day.
You better being mute than spouting cringe because le writer girlboss can't write not twitter talk.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>GW2 voiced their protag, and it's much much worse than XIV.
What makes you think that has to do with the protagonist being voiced and not the dogshit writing?
11 months ago
Anonymous
the protag voice will always convey what the writer wants
how are both not tied? your char will never be "yours" because he is voiced, he will be more of a stranger and less immersive than being silent and just pretending you said whatever the frick you wanna say.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>your char will never be "yours" because he is voiced
He isn't "yours" in FF14, he's entirely pre-written. The dialogue options don't actually change anything. You're always forced to do exactly what the writers want you to do, no matter what.
11 months ago
Anonymous
what do you expect, exactly?
there is a (no), by the way, it's called "abandon quest"
11 months ago
Anonymous
>what do you expect, exactly?
i want FF14 morons to stop pretending the WoL has anything to do with them as players. he's as completely scripted as every other character in the game. >abandon quest >still gated behind the quest you abandoned with zero option to progress otherwise
wow freedom
11 months ago
Anonymous
They don't take criticism well anon. And they wonder why theyre called cultists
11 months ago
Anonymous
Even singleplayer RPGs don't have an option to skip the laid out story entirely, lmao.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>Even singleplayer RPGs don't have an option to skip the laid out story entirely, lmao.
There are plenty of single player RPGs that let you change outcomes, actually. Even Dark Souls, which barely has a story, has multiple endings depending on how you do quests.
11 months ago
Anonymous
FFXIV is a visual novel game moron. It only has 1 ending. A book doesn't have multiple endings. It has 1
11 months ago
Anonymous
>A book doesn't have multiple endings. It has 1
Good thing we're talking about a video game then lol
There's still a certain bunch of mandatory bosses and the endings amount to just doing a specific sidequest
Or turning around at the end of DS1 lmao
If you wanted a decent example of a game with a skippable story you could've said Morrowind but you can break that shit in half a hundred different ways on top of the intended route
Yeah, every story has to be scripted at some point. Video games are intended to be interactive experiences though, not movies where you literally set down the controller.
11 months ago
Anonymous
The vast majority of video game stories are linear, even in RPGs. That's not a knock against them either most video games have terrible writing no matter how they're structured.
11 months ago
Anonymous
boy, you're a monkey
11 months ago
Anonymous
>never read a "choose your own adventure" book
Soulless childhood, holy shit
11 months ago
Anonymous
>A book doesn't have multiple endings. It has 1
*blocks your path*
11 months ago
Anonymous
And still you have to play through the path laid out almost entirely identically.
And those are singleplayer RPGs, not MMOs that have to take into account thousands of other potential players and having to add on an expansion every 2 or so years that has to flow from one to the next.
11 months ago
Anonymous
There's still a certain bunch of mandatory bosses and the endings amount to just doing a specific sidequest
Or turning around at the end of DS1 lmao
If you wanted a decent example of a game with a skippable story you could've said Morrowind but you can break that shit in half a hundred different ways on top of the intended route
11 months ago
Anonymous
Barry is baiting you anon, this moron does nothin but try to derail threads every fricking day
11 months ago
Anonymous
While the response choices do not impact anything, they are still nice to have
11 months ago
Anonymous
This I cannot deny.
11 months ago
Anonymous
WoL being voiced would be a disaster. Give me nods over GW2-tier performances any day of the week
11 months ago
Anonymous
>might makes right >fire burns >I need some space >Swiftness: Swiftly/Faster! >Achieving: the life for me! >I am greatness getting greater. >You're dumb. You'll die, and you'll leave a dumb corpse. >I achieve things. I'm an achiever.
man that game was shit
11 months ago
Anonymous
Limsa is far better than Uldah in almost every way. The only reason someone might prefer Uldah is that its characters are important to the story at an earlier time (end of ARR). You even start with Y'shtola rather than Thancred, a trade I'm always willing to make.
If you're staring with FF as a whole
AVOID 15 and 13 as the plague, they are objectively the 2 worst entries in the whole franchise.
everything else is fair game.
1 to 6 had a pixel remaster last year, so you can check any of em, 6 is considered by many as the absolute best.
The original 7-8-9 are on steam, but will require a little modding to fix old pc games stuff, like the OST being MIDI. althou 7 and 9 are regarded as two of the best FF out of all.
10, 10-2 and 12 also got remasters on steam if you want stuff from the PS2 era, Japan considers 10 the best of all, while 12 is in a cult classic position, not bad, but it has it's flaws, it's a very nice game if you like lore and politics, it focus less on the fantasy and more on the war between nations aspect.
11 would be the first mmo, it's an old mmo, everquest style, so prob not a nice thing to try if you don't understand and enjoy that old school hardcore stuff.
13-1-2-3 are the ps3 era entries, as ive said before, very bad.
14 is the 2nd MMO, It's the highest rated FF game since ff12, and hailed by many fans as amongst the top 5(others being 6,7,8 and 10), it still getting updates which make easier for a solo play thru most of the story, meaning you can experience almost all the story without even having to talk to another human being, if you're one of the "anxiety" people who get nervous with human interactions.
as for 15, it's a mess, the story is spread between books, movies, anime and the game itself, it was an aborted attempt of making it a "franchise"
I'd honestly suggest that you start with 14 as it's the most recent, good, and beginner friendly.
the base game and the first xpac are part of the free trial, the team doing 16 were the ones responsible for this first xpac(Heavensward), so you can see what the composer and writer are capable of delivering in the old FF medieval style.
the music of Heavensward is also absolutely amazing
>had to sit through re4 shill threads for 1 month >this stupid generic shit is coming out and have to sit through the board being cluttered by more shill shit
Zelda threads seem to be autists staying in their own thread actually talking about the game. RE4 and this shit is blatant "LOL THIS GAME IS SO GOOOOOD" and shitting on past games while talking about it, like a console war.
>say everyone else is a shill >hypocritically say it doesn't count when it's Nintendo >get called out on it >LOL SEETHE ABSOLUTELY RENT FREE
Nintendogays are the dumbest mother frickers as always.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>still seething cause he has a boogeyman
11 months ago
Anonymous
>be a living, breathing example of that "boogeyman" literally proving it to NOT be a boogeyman
Again, dumbest mother frickers.
True. TotK was clearly one of the greatest video games of all time. It provided players freedom and creativity on a scale never before seen. Tears of the Kingdom is as imaginative, delightful and empowering as Breath of the Wild and a paradigm for emergent sandbox play. It's a glorious, triumphant sequel to one of the best video games of all time; absolute unfiltered bliss to lose yourself in for hundreds of hours.
What’s more compelling is the game’s nod to the collective story of how human imagination pushes us through our toughest challenges, and sometimes sends us soaring to heights unseen. The Legend of Zelda is one of the greatest franchises in gaming history and this is its best entry to date, automatically cementing it as one of the greatest games of all time.
>generic shit
It's maybe the least generic final fantasy game. They finally ditched the fruitcake clown world aesthetic that they've been using ad nauseam since 2001.
>It can't be the least generic when it's westernized shit being made on Unreal Engine
Yes it can. Also FF has always been westernized. FF1 was inspired by a literal dungeons and dragons campaign kek.
>fruitcake clown world aesthetic >that they've been using ad nauseam since 2001
you mean since 1986
I liked it and I'm buying the game, but let's not get carried away. It has some very awkward cuts in cutscenes and it doesn't actually have that much gameplay.
>>it doesn't actually have that much gameplay >he didnt play the gameplay demo
>ever notice how turn-based gays only ever played 1, maybe 3 diff FF games?
the reality is that most FF games aren't worth playing. the overwhelming majority of the franchise is complete slop, especially the modern shit.
i'm doing everything i can to hold myself back from playing the demo, i was already sold by the trailers and bought the game ages ago so i now shouldn't play it.
It's Ganker
Being contrarian is in their blood
And Im speaking it as Im playing a turn based game at the very moment.
It's an RPGmaker game, FF has long evolved past turn based.
>Final Fantasy was only turn based for 17 years (1987-2001)
You mean the good majority of the franchise? >It has been 22 years since
Ah. You mean the but a small handful of titles they've managed to push out since?
Why do you think the latter is more representative than the former?
If they spent 50 years on just two Final Fantasies, but made them Point & Click Adventure games. Would Final Fantasy the franchise all of a sudden be a franchise of Point & Click Adventure games or would just the last two and radically different entries be Point & Click Adventure games? That they spent 50 years on them would be entirely irrelevant.
If Nintendo spent 100 years on the next Mario game. And it was an FPS. It wouldn't mean that Mario isn't still a franchise of platformers.
i just wish it was a better turn based combat game. it felt like it lacked depth or something when i played through it. fun game, just not as good as it couldve been
You have countless of turn-based games to play. Octopath Traveler 2 was great, and the new Hawaii Like a Dragon game looks good. You're just a fricking baby.
>You have countless of turn-based games to play.
There are like less than half the number of turn-based games we used to have. Especially proportionally compared to realtime games.
Not really. Kiseki is pretty much the only turn based JRPG series left and even that is starting to implement more action elements. Anyone who says "there's plenty of turn based games to play" is clearly someone that doesn't play turn based games.
I don't even get it. I'd say I probably like turn based jrpgs more than action ones but this looks like a damn good ARPG so I have no reason to be mad here.
>but this looks like a damn good ARPG
Sure. But why is it FF16?
>aw yeah I love street fighter! >and that's why street fighter 7 should be a tower defence game! >it's genuinely the best tower defence game ever made so there really is no reason to be mad! It's a damn good game!
The game being good is unironically almost completely irrelevant.
Street Fighter 7 should be a fighting game. No matter how good of a game it would be.
Final Fantasy 16 should have been an RPG. No matter how good of a game.
There is nothing odd about this sentiment. Of course for some reason shills are arguing otherwise in full force.
No one whined when Yakuza went JRPG though.
And it’s not like it’s a sudden shift in direction, it slowly build up towards it in the last 22 years ever since XII
nta but Yakuza doesn't have that big of a fan base and most decided not to whine because the game is still Yakuza despite being turn based, in narrative style and in exploration. FFXVI on the other hand is a complete shift in almost all aspects except certain terms and lore, of course there's going to be a bigger backlash.
Yakuza did it better and gave a great reason why it changed, FF is a soulless attempt to get that more western fans in an attempt to boost sales.
I liked Yakuza 7 too for becoming a turn based JRPG. Game series don't have to stick with the gameplay system they started with. Also XV was the game that moved away from turn based combat so why didn't people complain about it then? Oh right it's because this bullshit is a fake criticism by you, Barry who seethes endlessly that people think XV is dog shit. Cope.
No, what game series SHOULD do is constantly try and reinvigorate the series with new elements and changes, FF is a multiple decade old series. If there's any series that should be constantly trying to change things up it's Final Fantasy.
>Also XV was the game that moved away from turn based combat so why didn't people complain about it then?
How young were you when XV released? Because it was getting non-stop shitposted for exactly these reasons.
Then there's no reason to say XVI "betrayed the series routes" you fricking idiot. It's about precedence.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>Then there's no reason to say XVI "betrayed the series routes" you fricking idiot. It's about precedence.
No frick you. They've both betrayed Final Fantasy. FF15 (FF11, and FF14 too if you will) betraying the franchise first doesn't all of a sudden make it ok for FF16 to do it. It still absolutely betrayed the franchise just like the rest of them.
Frick them and frick you. FF15 is guilty of all the same sins as FF16. And that means they are both utter garbage.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Lol chill out, you acting cult-like with this betrayal shit lmao
>Also XV was the game that moved away from turn based combat so why didn't people complain about it then?
How young were you when XV released? Because it was getting non-stop shitposted for exactly these reasons.
What fricking history revisionism is this? Turn based gays were malding over XV being action based as soon as it was revealed as XV in 2013.
Nobody had an issue with versus being action based because it was a spinoff
People have literally been malding since ff12 on that regard tbh, and even secondaries who started with ffx (not that that is an inherent sin) getting mad at 13 for deviating from 'pure' turnbased
That's separate from crying about them not being turn based anymore
More people being upset about the MMOs than they were about 15 being an action game, why the meltdown now? It's been DECADES
Bro they've been turn based/ATB for 11 main entries. They've been action based for 4 entries in the last 20 years.
Calling out on the garbage action RPG gameplay is a fair point and YOU can cry about it all you want.
11 months ago
Anonymous
If you wanna be mad about about something for half your life that's your problem
11 months ago
Anonymous
>over a quarter of the ff titles are action based
even, hypothetically pretending that this is the first time this has happened, just whining that its not the genre you like isnt actually criticism my dude
11 months ago
Anonymous
the action RPG main entries have been historically garbage (XIII (II-III) and XV) and SE was on the verge of Bankruptcy, YoshiP somehow pulled out a miracle with 2.0 and that's why hes directing XVI.
XVI gameplay ain't that bad, it's just average like any other Action RPG. Or as you morons call it "mid"
11 months ago
Anonymous
>the fact that it is an action rpg means it can only peak at mid
thats not a criticism anon.
11 months ago
Anonymous
it is
11 months ago
Anonymous
anon i totally respect you being disappointed that a game from a series you presumably like is changing its usual genre to one you like less, really. but cmon.
11 months ago
Anonymous
I like FXVI , i don't like the fact that they abandoning what makes FF FF.
11 months ago
Anonymous
For me ff is the story, presentation, world building and music. from my perspective this has been a solid return to form. Nothing will compete with how concisely IV's story is conveyed however.
11 months ago
Anonymous
They are abandoning that to return to what the series is actually all about.
11 months ago
Anonymous
A Wallmart Game of Thrones ?
11 months ago
Anonymous
Princess!
11 months ago
Anonymous
>this lie again
xv made more money in a month than ff14 in 10 years
11 months ago
Anonymous
XV sucks and you got banned 5 times in a single day LOL
i prefer turn based combat as well, but i'm glad XVI at least tries to be a spectacle fighter after XV was so incredibly boring. so i have no issues with the new battle system.
Yup, this is why I compared it to RE4 remake. These stupid frickers aren't final fantasy fans. They are stupid fricking shills who shit on past games and the majority of the fanbase
Yup, this is why I compared it to RE4 remake. These stupid frickers aren't final fantasy fans. They are stupid fricking shills who shit on past games and the majority of the fanbase
>everyone who likes game is this
wash the gash in your trousers you hysteria-ridden trannies.
>isn't it curious how when i constantly screech and shit my pants about how 'it not real ff because no 4 homies turnbased' that people get spiteful about it
yeah
>forgetting that MM and OoT remakes sold like crazy and their respective 3DS models were almost cleaned out before Day 1 >ignoring the demands for WW, TP and the released SS >ignoring how well LTTP and LA have done
Lmao, BoTW is baby's first Zelda but it does a good job of pushing people to the old games which cant be said for FF.
i've played through 1, 2, 7, 8, 9 & 10. i prefer turn based but i accept the change as long as it actually is a good action based battle system which 15 didn't have but i hope 16 will.
>ever notice how turn-based gays only ever played 1, maybe 3 diff FF games?
the reality is that most FF games aren't worth playing. the overwhelming majority of the franchise is complete slop, especially the modern shit.
I've played every single FF game in the main series instead of sequels and I prefer turn-based combat for the series. But if they do action right this time, I'd be down for it.
That being said Lost Odyssey was pure kino and proves that turn based is completely viable in the modern age
I liked it and I'm buying the game, but let's not get carried away. It has some very awkward cuts in cutscenes and it doesn't actually have that much gameplay.
I think I'm going to start my blackout tonight. Hope I can get a copy early too, apparently copies are already in the wild so I expect massive spoilers to start being spammed tomorrow.
I'll be back to shit on Barry some more after I finish the game.
Calling it again: mystery hood is the Rosfield ancestor, first Dominant of Phoenix, trying to body-hop across his descendants which is why there's a ritual at Phoenix Gate and only the Dominant can enter.
It's a montage of different areas, each area is shown for like a second each, how else do you want the character to be controlled you brainless frickwit?
Have we seen any footage of towns with the MC actually talking to NPCs? I don't mind if each NPC has a boring 1 repeated line of dialogue, not being able to interact with them is a huge downside if this game still wants to be considered an 'RPG'
Remember how they didn't talk about FF13 being hallways at all until release, where the Japanese guide leaked early and people flooded the threads with the pictures showing LITERALLY the whole game is hallways till act 12? They are coming out and saying 16 is mostly linear with some open zones but not open world tier in scope
Literally the second thing you see in the demo is a town and the first "hallway" dungeon still has a few random consumables hidden away in it
But yeah maybe people just aren't complaining about those things because they haven't played 40 hours of it?
bruh, this is getting 85 minimum entirely based off the cinematic elements and all the journalism mode options. when you add all the actually good shit... i'm expecting to be around TOTK's score.
>i'm expecting to be around TOTK's score.
the only chance this game has at hitting TotK scores is if YoshiP cultists upvote spam it, which they probably will to be fair.
So basically no matter how much people like it, you won't acknowledge it anyway?
11 months ago
Anonymous
I mean, normans adored Avengers Endgame, that didn't stop it from being a dogshit movie.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Okay, but all this screams to me is that you've already preemptively made up your mind anyway.
It's bad and anyone who likes it is a shill or has no taste.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Final Fantasy hasn't been a worthwhile franchise in decades, why would I expect it to start now?
11 months ago
Anonymous
Well, a lot of people still seem to like it, so whether or not you think they're wrong, it's accrued some sort of an audience.
The YoshiP cult, where they huff a salaryman's farts as their weekly worship ritual.
11 months ago
Anonymous
can you point me to them
11 months ago
Anonymous
look in the mirror
11 months ago
Anonymous
what
11 months ago
Anonymous
here's a screenshot of some of them throwing a cult ritual for a wow player who sucked off FF14 for a few days.
11 months ago
Anonymous
that just seems like people having fun in a game
what's the cult part?
11 months ago
Anonymous
>that just seems like people having fun in a game
where's the gameplay? they're literally just standing around waving glowsticks like zombies.
11 months ago
Anonymous
It’s called socializing anon…you would understand it had you had any friends
11 months ago
Anonymous
it's an mmo which is about social interaction too
This sounds like how a scientologist would respond
how do you mean
11 months ago
Anonymous
It’s called socializing anon…you would understand it had you had any friends
>players in an MMO crowding around one of the most popular streamers while his stream is getting a shitton of views
whoa what a cult, this never happens in any other game
mmos are about playing a videogame with other people, not waving glowsticks.
11 months ago
Anonymous
well, mmos are also about social interaction
a lot of the appeal of them was playing with people while also being able to sit down and chat with them before stuff like discord
11 months ago
Anonymous
They seem to be doing an event together with their friends anon, they seem to be having fun and you look like you are seething at someone else’s good time
>mmos are about
>no true abboman
>players using emotes is anti-mmo
lol
>YoshiP defense force ACTIVATE
11 months ago
Anonymous
???
i literally just said social interaction is a staple of mmos, or at the least used to be
people used to treat mmos like chatrooms all the time before the advent of stuff like discord
11 months ago
Anonymous
>MY OPINIONS ARE FACT >no >LOOK THE CULT IS PROTECTING THEIR MASTER HEHEHE
11 months ago
Anonymous
Well, yeah
11 months ago
Anonymous
They seem to be doing an event together with their friends anon, they seem to be having fun and you look like you are seething at someone else’s good time
11 months ago
Anonymous
>mmos are about
11 months ago
Anonymous
>no true abboman
11 months ago
Anonymous
>players using emotes is anti-mmo
lol
11 months ago
Anonymous
11 months ago
Anonymous
i do not see the similarities, sorry
not sure how liking a thing = being a cult
11 months ago
Anonymous
Do I really need to post the copypasta about the free trial? I can't tell if youre serious or feigning ignorance
11 months ago
Anonymous
what copypasta?
11 months ago
Anonymous
The one about the free trial
https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=ffxiv+free+trial+copypasta
11 months ago
Anonymous
oh
isnt that just a meme
11 months ago
Anonymous
>its just a prank bro
Cults never use memes or symbols
11 months ago
Anonymous
no really
isnt that just a meme
11 months ago
Anonymous
Advertising campaigns are memes as well. I know youre being ignorant on purpose but still.....
11 months ago
Anonymous
i'm just waiting to see where the "cult" part you're so vocal about comes into play
11 months ago
Anonymous
Can I ask you a question? Will you say that ff14 and yoshi-p suck? You dont even need to agree with it.
11 months ago
Anonymous
but why would i say it if i don't believe it?
i am just trying to understand the viewpoint but there's so little here to work with
11 months ago
Anonymous
Youve never told a lie before? Good on you kid
I understand why you ask so many dumb questions now
11 months ago
Anonymous
no, i'm just wondering what the purpose would be of saying something i dont agree with
i don't like kale, so why would i state that i do
11 months ago
Anonymous
Are you okay?
11 months ago
Anonymous
i am pretty well
11 months ago
Anonymous
I would say that a cultist would not be able to say anything against their cult leader, even if they disagreed. Therefore, if you weren't a cultist, you could say something against the cult that you don't actually agree with.
11 months ago
Anonymous
but it's totally normal to not say things you don't believe in???
am i taking crazy pills
11 months ago
Anonymous
Absolutely, have you ever had a job?
Dont know why youre grandstanding on Ganker of all places
11 months ago
Anonymous
sorry, anon, you're just weird
you're not my employer and i'm not obligated to dance to your tune just to pass your weird purity check
11 months ago
Anonymous
hahaha, fricking knew it!
11 months ago
Anonymous
alright
11 months ago
Anonymous
gottem
Was it that hard to just be who you are anon? Be proud of being a cultist!
11 months ago
Anonymous
sure dude
whatever you say i guess
11 months ago
Anonymous
Yeah
11 months ago
Anonymous
Why not just ask for genuine criticism?
There's plenty wrong with 14 and the devs have fricked up recently (recent ultimate sucked, some raid mechanics are getting stale, the post 6.0 msq has been bland). There you go
11 months ago
Anonymous
Players of an MMO actually liking the people who work on the game is an alien concept to him. Be gentle
11 months ago
Anonymous
>I like mr crying small penis man! He said my penis dwarfs his penis in comparison. beeeeeg american peenus!
11 months ago
Anonymous
are you well?
11 months ago
Anonymous
Have you ever seen the chinpokomon episode of south park?
11 months ago
Anonymous
nope
11 months ago
Anonymous
You should watch it, perfectly describes your responses
11 months ago
Anonymous
my responses being curiosity and not being willing to say something i don't believe?
is that somehow a weird thing now?
11 months ago
Anonymous
>genuine curiosity
lmfao
11 months ago
Anonymous
>xiv players are a cult cus uhh glowstick emotes and copypasta >huh? >l-listen cultist, just say the game is shit >but i dont think its shit >LE SOUTH PARK REFERENCE
11 months ago
Anonymous
I never said the game was shit lmao, youre a ff14 cultist, I thought you knew how to read
11 months ago
Anonymous
>"liking" a soulless, phony multimillionaire whose entire job it is to run damage control and milk as many whales as possible
kek. Square Enix has you losers by the balls.
11 months ago
Anonymous
It's a foreign concept to basically anyone other than FF14 cultists.
11 months ago
Anonymous
It’s cringe as shit and only redditors use it. You won’t see anyone from here or /vg/ posting it unless they are tourists.
11 months ago
Anonymous
lol this guy took the copypasta seriously
are you a 50 year old grumpy boomer or what
11 months ago
Anonymous
This sounds like how a scientologist would respond
11 months ago
Anonymous
He is unfamiliar with the concept of liking things that are generally well-recieved. He can only like things that most people don't. It feeds his shame kink. So when he sees people feeling joy brought about by something, he feels it is unnatural and caused by illicit manipulation of their minds.
11 months ago
Anonymous
What does an e celeb have to do with a nip salaryman
11 months ago
Anonymous
They suck off the salaryman even more than wow players who throw them scraps of validation.
11 months ago
Anonymous
What does that have to do with the image you posted, what are you even talking about
11 months ago
Anonymous
>players like the guy who turned around their mmo and listens to player feedback >I-IT'S A CULT!!!!!
kek
11 months ago
Anonymous
Was this you, anon? Be honest.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>players in an MMO crowding around one of the most popular streamers while his stream is getting a shitton of views
whoa what a cult, this never happens in any other game
11 months ago
Anonymous
It’s a shadowy cabal that exists in barry’a head
11 months ago
Anonymous
homosexual says if you don't agree that xiv is shit you're part of some secret cult, only he and the higher echelon of the ff community can decide which game is good or bad
he also thinks 13 and 15 are good ff games
11 months ago
Anonymous
Just say its shit, you dont even need to agree with it
85 sounds about right, I fully expect critics to praise the movie game story and criticise the battles for being both too easy and hard because they suck at games.
i don't see how it's a dumbing down. with hitstun added as a mechanic, it's just another attribute the developer can adjust to incentivize usage of one move over another in a particular situation. this is still in the game - certain moves do way more will gauge damage than others and they're the moves that you would expect to outright flatten enemies in other games (titan windup), but idk i personally would prefer if instead of a gauge being affected it gave a guaranteed down state on normal sized humanoid enemies. i just prefer that.
>PS5 exclsuive for 1 year >Square makes up shit like saying it can only play on a PS% cause of some SSD or some shit >looks like default game of thrones influenced >the music is stock soulless orchestra shit >the gameplay was hyped up as playing like DMC since day 1
Lost all fricking interest when the first trailer was shown.
Every day I think the shazamposters can't possibly portray themselves as even more moronic and every day I'm proven wrong. They're worse than Barry at this point.
He's some variety of middle eastern irrc. He just lives in Straya to mooch off their welfare, which is why everyone thought he was an abbo for a while.
He is a fricking moron. Because FF15 is guilty of all the same sins as FF16. And are both action game trash that betrayed the franchise.
And yet he loves the former and only hates the latter.
This game has everything to be one of the best Final Fantasy of the series for me.
So I will kindly stay away from Ganker's incessant doomposting and the spoilers that will follow without a doubt to spite people like me who still enjoy great games, and have the time of my life playing it.
Hope you'll have fun too, XVI brothers.
Same, this is not only GOTY but best FF contender. Playing the game for the first time next week might be a once in a lifetime experience, gotta enjoy every second of it.
I like both. I don't want FF to be action, just like I don't want Yakuza to become turn based, or Tales a racing game, or Street Fighter a cooking game. I want a franchise to stay in its own fricking genre.
Soken have free reign over the music anon, if the music sucks it's because of him
Also, maybe start checking the credit of songs before sucking him, most of the OST from 14 from SHB foward have been a join collab of him and 2 other composers, some of your fav arrangements ain't even Soken's work.
Sounds like shit. >OMG FEMALE HUMMING AND CHANTING OVER A PIANO >JUST LIKE MY NIER OST
lmao frick this generic shit, this series is so fricking embarrassing at how creatively bankrupt it is. It used to be a series everyone copied, now it shamelessly tries to copy other shit hoping more than 5 million people will buy it.
It got leaked in January, the yoshi-P cultists have been in severe damage control over the leaks ever since because every new gameplay and trailer and demo keeps proving the leaks true, so now tjeir copium is "t-they just knew the marketting materials" even though the leaks are getting confirmed from stuff shown in completely different regions.
Cultists never acknowledge that they're in a cult, anon.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Fair, but most people who point out cults do a much better job than the piss poor effort you've made.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>X is a cult! >How do you mean? >URRH WELL... PEOPLE STANDING AROUND A GUY IN AN MMO WAVING GLOWSTICKS AND A COPYPASTA >That doesn't seem like evid- >Cultists never acknowledge that they're in a cult! Gotcha!
Sad. Just sad.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>he thinks it wasn't all bait just to whip the cultists into a frenzy
kek. the seething defense force demonstrates the cult more than anything.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>say something stupid >get called stupid >ah this is proof that my stupid remark was actually right
Sad. Just sad.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Honestly man, don't take this the wrong way, but are you thinking they are in a cult because you see similarities to your own membership in the Perma Turbo Tard Cult?
11 months ago
Anonymous
one sec *gulp* ah thanks for that fresh load Yoshi
11 months ago
Anonymous
Not him but FFXIV fans after SB are pretty close to Cult like. Yoshida can do no wrong and anything bad that happens to the game is due to WoW players, games like XV and VIIR taking funds from XIV or that SE treats it like a cash cow ignoring that the Revenue says Mobile is in an attempt to shift blame from the Devs. Criticism or generally negativity is frowned upon being labeled as unique dissenters such as Barry/Baztek, WoWjanny aka VauthryJanny, Candyshota, Raid/Diapergays or any currently popular gaming community such as Tendies being brought up cause of ToTK's current lead on GoTY. When their threads get so bad that the genuine players can no longer chat thanks to the majority obsessed with shutting down hate leading to thread deletion they'll swarm other threads, specifically WoW during the lead up to Shadowbringer's launch. ARR and HW had some obnoxiously fervent people but they were never the majority till the end of Stormblood.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>People who like a game like a game
Shocker >anything bad that happens to the game is due to WoW players
So they echo WoW players, who claim that anything bad said about their game is due to FFXIV players? Gyess both are a cult >games like XV and VIIR taking funds from XIV-
People have different narratives for why they're not pleased with xyz development. And? >Criticism or generally negativity is frowned upon being labeled as unique dissenters such as Barry/Baztek
Who is a real thing with a storied history >WoWjanny
? >Candyshota
? >Raidgays
Different subsets of a game don't like each other. Next you'll call raiders a cult for crying about limsagays all day.
All you've proven is that a lot of people have different opinions and scapegoats for something happening, which happens for literally every game.
Dungeon crawlers are fricking dead as a genre and Atlus is going to be milking Persona for the rest of your life.
I'd say move the frick on but you seem physically unable to so keep yelling at the clouds, you're not getting any younger though.
Proof? Everyone in the English speaking internet has been so busy talking about the demo, I don't think I've seen anyone bother to look at how JP reacted to it.
My nip internet recommended me shit tons of nips playing demo live. It's trending on nip twitter (they like it) and some shippers already board Clive x Jill ship lmao.
>Don't want game because of XV and how shit Square has been these past years >Play demo >Want the game
Holy damn, it's almost like this is why demos are a good thing.
>ff15 has combined goty and genre goty of 41
https://gotypicks.blogspot.com/2016/09/2016-game-of-year.html?m=1
https://gotypicks.blogspot.com/2016/09/2016-game-of-year-genre-awards.html?m=1
>ff14 a realm reborn has combined goty and genre goty of 1
https://gotypicks.blogspot.com/2013/09/2013-game-of-year.html?m=1
https://gotypicks.blogspot.com/2013/09/2013-game-of-year-genre-awards.html?m=1
>ff14 heavensward has combined goty and genre goty of 0
https://gotypicks.blogspot.com/2015/09/2015-game-of-year.html?m=1
https://gotypicks.blogspot.com/2015/09/2015-game-of-year-genre-awards.html?m=1
>ff14 stormblood has combined goty and genre goty of 0
https://gotypicks.blogspot.com/2017/09/2017-game-of-year.html?m=1
https://gotypicks.blogspot.com/2017/09/2017-game-of-year-genre-awards.html?m=1
>ff14 shadowbringers has combined goty and genre goty of 2
https://gotypicks.blogspot.com/2019/10/2019-game-of-year.html?m=1
https://gotypicks.blogspot.com/2019/10/2019-game-of-year-genre-awards.html?m=1
It’s very clear that there’s a group on here who viciously attack anybody who shits on this game. You all come off as cultists, just saying. That said, I haven’t been this excited for an FF since 12. Please don’t call me barry
>they showed every eikon fight >they told uf there are two timeskips > they are also posting the themes of all the characters
Why? Is there anything we don't know at this point?
SE has 4 game divisions
Creative Business Unit 1 which has FF7R/FF13/Mobius FF, KH3/KH4, SaGa, SoP FFO, Dissidia NT, KH spinoffs devs and more
Creative Business Unit 2 which has FFXV, DQ11/DQ12, DQ10, Nier, Octopath/Live a Live/Bravely Default devs and more
Creative Business Unit 3 which has FF14, FF16 and DQ Builders team
Creative Business Unit 4 which has mobile mainly with FFBE and all the other mobile stuff
Aside from that they have
Advanced Technology Division which does R&D on tech stuff
Image Works which was previously called Visual Works, their CG cinematic department
Then their blockchain division
From the 2000s the divisions were called
1st Production Party which did most of their AAA and hand-held games
2nd Production Party which did lower budget stuff
3rd Production Party which did MMO
etc
Then in 2013 they restructured to Business Divisions 1-10, then added 11 and 12 later, then merged then back into SE
Those 12 Business Divisions labelled Business Division 1, Business Division 2, Business Division 3 etc
Then in 2019 SE restructured and consolidated the 11 Business Divisions into 4 Creative Business Unit
Can't be because that's the point I was making and I'm too smart to repeat your point reworded because I didn't notice the irony in your post. You must be mistaken.
didnt look at the gameplay, but i really liked the characters and dialogue thus far.
when i compare this to FF7 Remake, FF16 feels way more believable. FF7 Remake characters felt so forced and unauthentic, like they are all just really bad actors. Didnt think square could still do something that doesnt feel like kingdom hearts cringe
Yeah the voice acting in FF7R is pretty bad. Aerith's line in the Rebirth trailer was delivered so horribly, shit sounded like a 4kids anime dub
I'm not saying XVI's voices are perfect (Joshua sounded really lame when he was fighting Ifrit) but overall it sounds a lot more natural
It's cause JP is the base language for 7R. They used Japanese people for the voices and the motion capture. 16 uses Western actors for the voices and motion-capture as the base version.
I wonder if you ever realized that most XIVgays are what Barry is to XV. Cultlike fervor towards their respective game. XIVgays and XVgay have forever poisoned the well of FF discussion
Bought a PS5 and deluxe edition fioor 16 after trying the 10/10 demo. Feels good to be able to not only enjoy superb quality games, but to also know it makes Barry and his ilk here seethe.
>cultistcultistcultist >what makes it a cult >UHMM... AH.. HERE'S A SCREENSHOT OF PEOPLE STANDING AROUND IN AN MMO EMOTING
wow... revelations abound today
i wonder if he's ever seen wow in its heyday
sat and chatted with people a bunch in goldshire (not argent dawn or moon guard) or stormwind during vanilla
Have you heard of the critically acclaimed MMORPG World of Warcfrat? With an expanded free trial which you can play through the entirety of Burning Crusade and the award-winning Wrath of the Lich King expansion up to level 60 for free with no restrictions on playtime.
Yeah, it's been my typical experience in MMOs as well.
Hell, used to be a time half a decade or so ago when WoW players would beg to get the kind of interaction XIV still has today. But now it's actually bad for some reason because... cult, I guess.
>wow players want a glorified second life
Just the trannies
11 months ago
Anonymous
>second life
Yeah, that's the cope now.
Used to be a time wow players wanted actual social interaction beyond just calling people Black person for breaking their keystone.
11 months ago
Anonymous
blizzard only listened to the poopsockers whose only social interaction was in raids. They 'majority' of the playerbase vehemently did not housing, toys, dances or anything like that because muh spreadsheets
11 months ago
Anonymous
Yeah, so the people actually wanting MMOs to be MMOs (include social interaction) waned, leaving only the people who wanted number go up.
>But now it's actually bad for some reason because
literally started with asmon assuming that a large chunk of positivity was 'toxic' positivity and his mouthbreather audience spread that shit like wildfire before asmon could even try the game and prove himself wrong.
11 months ago
Anonymous
He has a way of ruining shit, even inadvertently.
Wish he'd just stuck to WoW.
>the kind of interaction XIV still has today
The only "interaction" in FFXIV is leaning on walls in limsa and afk dancing at the LGBTQ+ nightclubs. That's not the kind of interaction anyone means when they talk about socially driven mmos. That's literal Second Life garbage kek.
Boomer here. If you want role play and turn based why not just play Octopath or DQ games? SE have made it obvious FF is their broad audience Call of Duty style game. They're never going to make it complex or difficult.
Does it always hit that many times or does it depend on what you parry?
Same, Ganker can keep seething.
>Ganker
Literally ONE homosexual
Without Barry this would be one of the most well liked games here
Genuinely one of the best demos I've ever played. Pure kino. Got Goosebumps when the two dominants were epically battling during the cutscene. Also never seen a game do qtes for doors and it was super badass, the PS5's adaptive triggers really shine here. Story is also great, it's refreshing to finally get a grimdark fantasy game with complex characters that have sex and are more than just one dimensional tropes like in GoT.
Gameplay is also pure bliss. It was so sick jumping into dudes and mashing square for a while, never had to use a potion either so wasnt frustrating at all. Flashy, beautiful graphics accentuate all of Clive's moves too and it ran at a solid 4k 60fps the whole time. The Eikon challenge was even better because I had variations of the same move but with different particle effects.
True system seller and youre missing out if you dont play this game
>immediate pasta
let the copening commence
Unironically frick Final Fantasy
I’m glad this isn’t Final Fantasy because it’s finally good
YOOOOOO THIS GAMEPLAY IS FIRE FRFR
IM GLAD WE KILLED THIS BOOMER FRANCHISE
Don't you have your own seethe thread to read?
You must be fun at parties
>first tanky mob of the game
>not the worst gameplay
this game is dangerously based
actually sad, moronic abo
lmao this looks like shit
what happened to killing enemies in 2-3 hits. and actual strategy of selecting an attack that may or may not work, and reaping those consequences
this is just button mash-a-thon and dodge roll bullshit
FF died at X.
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It's been a while since I was this excited for AAA release.
This demo was phenomenal on every level. I was expecting that end, but not the brutality.
Mad man Yoshida is winning again.
stop
Yep I'm thinking this game is going to be beyond kino.
Jill bloomers ToT
Square Enix's ethics department is gonna freak
>they even copied the direwolves
Could this game be more creatively bankrupt?
>look_mom_i_posted_it_again.jpg
>tfw no direwolf pup to huff
Jill could have been a mother to me
She still could be to your children.
Is it on the ps4
No, PS5 exclusive.
Will come to pc... eventually.
cant believe I finally might have to upgrade. Have had ps4 since bloodborne came out lol, it sounds like an airbus
I would recommend getting it checked by a technician.
I'm pretty sure your thermal paste dried out, and it likely the air flow is being disrupted by dust.
YOOOOOO THIS GAMEPLAY IS CRINGY ZOINKS FIRE BUSSINGA FRFR
All the conversations surrounding this demo seem like both sides are trolling just to argue with each other. I just want the truth, bros. Is it good or not?
It's good anon. Just play it yourself.
The game has combo components in the combat gameplay. If shit died instantly there'd be no point to building up combos.
I enjoyed some aspects but absolutely loathed others. If you ask me if this should be the defacto format for FF going forward, I would say no. I thought it tries way too hard to be GoW + GoT but barely tries to be FF + DMC.
You can like the game. But don't be a moron and argue that it plays like Final Fantasy.
must suck being a nostalgiagaywho can't move on
I had moved on. But then Square Enix keeps digging up Final Fantasy's corpse and puppeteering it in distinctly unFF-like ways.
And I am no fan. At all.
Either make a real Final Fantasy or make actually new games.
FF16 could have been a Mana game or a brand new property. If nothing else it could at least have been a spin-off.
>I had moved on
clearly not
>muh "real" Final Fantasy
you clearly have not moved on
>And I am no fan. At all.
we know. we know that you didnt play the entire series as an adult. your opinion is one of a homosexual
It is a Final Fantasy game though. So of course it plays like one
>hat it plays like Final Fantasy.
no, it plays like FFXVI
>XIV is finally hailed as a FF maintitle by the purists
Oh shit we're in the acceptance stage, about time.
No. It stands out in the image easily. Even at a glance you can see that it isn't even close.
ACCEPTANCE! AT LAST!
FFXIV is a love letter to Final Fantasy. It's more FF than XV and XVI combined.
>good turn-based games play like an action game
>good action games play like a fighting game
>good fighting games play like a turn-based game
FF has never been more FF than now
so 10 was the Final Fantasy, cool.
It really was. Unless one was to count Bravely Default.
It's frustrating.
10 has the best battle system
Nah 13 was the last one with SOUL
If you don't think so you are an utter homosexual.
nah it isn't 4 homies in a row nor turn based, not a FF game sorry.
VII,XIII, and X aren't 4 homies either
so those are not real ff games either then?
>FF2
I can't make my own characters? This isn't Final Fantasy
>FF3
You change jobs instead of having set ones? This isn't Final Fantasy
>FF4
ATB? This isn't Final Fantasy
>FFV
This is just FF3 over again, which isn't Final Fantasy
>FFVI
Female protagonist? This isn't Final Fantasy
>FFVII
Cities and Materia? This isn't Final Fantasy
>FFVIII
GF? Draw System? This isn't Final Fantasy
>FFIX
What is this trance shit? This isn't Final Fantasy
>FFX
Voice acting? This isn't Final Fantasy
>FFXI
MMO? This isn't Final Fantasy
>FFXII
Gambit system? This isn't Final Fantasy
>FFXIII
Stagger system? Vehicle summons? This isn't Final Fantasy
>FFXIV
Another MMO? This isn't Final Fantasy
>FFXV
Action combat? This isn't Final Fantasy
damn Final Fantasy was really the final fantasy. It's over.
I'll take "things that never happened" for $200 alex
Final Fantasy was only turn based for 17 years (1987-2001)
It has been 22 years since the last turn based Final Fantasy. It is objectively not a turn based series any more
>Final Fantasy was only turn based for 17 years (1987-2001)
You mean the good majority of the franchise?
>It has been 22 years since
Ah. You mean the but a small handful of titles they've managed to push out since?
Why do you think the latter is more representative than the former?
If they spent 50 years on just two Final Fantasies, but made them Point & Click Adventure games. Would Final Fantasy the franchise all of a sudden be a franchise of Point & Click Adventure games or would just the last two and radically different entries be Point & Click Adventure games? That they spent 50 years on them would be entirely irrelevant.
If Nintendo spent 100 years on the next Mario game. And it was an FPS. It wouldn't mean that Mario isn't still a franchise of platformers.
Is Fallout a FPS arpg franchise or an isometric crpg series?
Original Fallout is the latter. Bethesda's is the former.
And at least no one is moronic enough to even make the argument that the latter plays like the former. But with Final Fantasy there are always at least a couple of shills who absolutely insist that the new games still play like Final Fantasy.
XII and XIII are turn based. Also VIIR has a turn based mode.
Turn based and ATB was a cope, they always wanted it to be action.
They just want your money, they are traitors to the Final Fantasy roots, they don't give a shit about the brand anymore.
>Fatlus gay talking about betrayal
oh dear
The entire reason ATB exists was to break away from pure turn based.
>Turn based and ATB was a cope, they always wanted it to be action.
Are you just shitposting?
Action games existed before FF1. And Squaresoft themselves developed action games. And when Final Fantasy received its own action games. They made them spin-offs because of the gameplay deviation.
You are simply wrong.
haven't played the demo yet, but all the gameplay vids until now have made every enemy encounter seem very damage-spongy. did they change that at all?
No, common trash mobs take 2+ min to kill. Total slog
t. triangle spammer
can clear a room in 10sec in the second demo, shitter
Using charged moves, precision counter, magic bursts and cooldowns deletes things quick
Just anything thats not just mashing square or triangle
You do the most damage when they're staggered and near the end of the stagger window (the damage multiplier goes up as they are closer to regaining their will)
Suzuki showed off the gameplay and kinda btfo the "damage sponge" narrative.
they aren't spongy at all if you're at least decent
To be honest I found it the opposite, normal mobs die too fast for the combos to fully play out
stagger is way too op, bosses just get deleted by titan
they're not. you melt through common mobs instantly and while the bosses take an appropriate amount of time you literally can never get hit so there's no danger of dying
Regular enemies die too fast in the 2nd part of the demo when you have a full moveset, maybe they just gave you a busted sword for that demo cause they mention you have gear and moves that you wouldn't normally have that early but anything that doesn't have a stagger bar dies in half a combo
Do you think Barry is going to off himself when this game comes out?
Nah, he'll seethe and think up some new copes, pretend all his embarassing old copes never happened and continue on, shitting even harder on VII Rebirth.
He has experienced humiliations on numerous occasions in the past and keeps coming back for more. He will simply employ his enviable selective memory and act like he hasn't been btfo.
I hope not. I'd much rather he finds something that brings him joy and spends his time with it more than actively choosing to be angry all day. It's sad.
He's to stupid and mentally ill to have the kind of self reflection required for suicide. Don't worry though, he'll be the 7R friend's problem soon enough.
What’s the suicide rate of abos? If I had to guess it would be pretty high. I think suicide or crime is very likely
they too dumb to understand the concept of unlifeing
YOOOOOOOO THIS GAMEPLAY IS BUZZINGA FRFR
IM GLAD BOOMER FF IS DEAD
Looks like you are in dire of someone cumming in your ass.
I can help you with that.
*Spreads Cheeks*
I want to see you try
>YOOOOOOOO THIS GAMEPLAY IS BUZZINGA FRFR
>IM GLAD BOOMER FF IS DEAD
Agreed.
It's fun, and Ganker hates fun.
kino
>Ganker
Barry hates it and makes up probably more than 50% of all the negative posts singlehandedly. From what I've seen most people seem generally positive on the game.
>Barry hates it and makes up probably more than 50% of all the negative posts singlehandedly
If the trend holds, yea.
Come on mods, we need another to add to the list.
I didnt like the eikolon battle... couldnt really see wtf was going on, just bright lights, motion blur and screen shake. the rest was pretty gud
I'm in the same boat. I hated the health bar during the fight.
>you will never have the strongest blood and have clive's mom go absolutely bawd crazy over your seed
Clive's theme is dangerously hype
Weakest Soken banger
Follow me, boy o'er the rolling green meadows
Follow the flames and arise from the shadows
Hear the Rosarian voices outring,
Fanned by the firebird's life-giving wings
Oh, on the wind borne
O'er the great land of Storm
Turn up your eyes to the boundless blue heavens
See how the fire in the firmament beckons
>lads get together for a drunken song
>Lord Elwin even joins in the banter
PURE SOUL
>Joshua thinks that everyone in the feast would prefer Clive over him as Archduke
>Clive doesn't join the feast because he doesn't think himself worthy to be with the men.
It's the little thing
>soken said the cast all have their own leitmotif because everyone is important
>you just know the final boss theme will be a remix of them all
>In the last phase, your theme starts playing
Was anyone impressed with the music? Frick me I never say that but it was so good and fitting, I'm uniornically going to add it to my playlist
welcome to soken kino
No idea who that is since I ain't FF player but I might get into the franchise, shit was epic
You can check the score for XIV on spotify.
https://open.spotify.com/playlist/6wnFBZ9ZhJRBsE5c9OscwI?si=_EwRY_WfTzKzOzo0G9qbKQ
And a single from XVI
https://open.spotify.com/track/6PWwohPvdhMIhEAIfyB6J6?si=3EXzaE_rSOmoM-mJPye7BQ
Which one shall I start with? I would rather not touch old stuff since nostalgia plays a big part as to why people still enjoy them.
I heard the remake is good and 15 is somewhat playable?
>I would rather not touch old stuff since nostalgia plays a big part as to why people still enjoy them.
What a lazy-frick way to dismiss games that just don't resonate with you.
I'm a firm believer that the reason why so many of the older games feel good is because of nostalgia.
Take Homm 3 for example, amazing game - my friends unironically all prefer 5 and 7 because they didn't grow up with it like me. Same with Baldurs Gate 2, I love rpgs and crpgs in particular but after playing Pathfinder 1 and 2 I've tried getting into BG2 multiple times but it just doesn't hold.
>I'm a firm believer that the reason why so many of the older games feel good is because of nostalgia.
That's probably because you're an extremely vapid person.
Both XVI and XIV are different games.
The first is what you have seen on yt.
The latter is an mmo, so it might not be your cup of tea. Still, great game anyway, play it everyday.
If you enjoy 16, then 14's probably going to be your cup of tea too. Even though it's an MMO they're both made by the same team and have a lot in common - and they've spent the last two years going back through the entire game and making sure you can play almost the whole thing singleplayer. Just make sure you start in Ul'dah (the other two starting zones are shit) and have patience with the first stretch of the game because it's a rough start (they had to remake the entire game in a single year because the original FF14 was such a fricking disaster they literally blew it up with a meteor in-game).
Oh yeah, and it's the main game that Soken produces music for and it's filled with absolute bangers:
>the other two starting zones are shit
Well okay Limsa's fine I GUESS, but Gridania's a miserable slog of back to back fetch quests.
Hey, I'm not going to disagree with you. Your opinion is valid. I would hope you would consider mine is as well. Maybe just don't push anon into a desert run by the corrupt. Each starting zone is viable to some, and we both know he'd eventually get to UD one way or another.
I dig the story and world of FF. I tried the MMO about 2 years ago (14) and it was a slog fest for me. Got to level 30 and quit. I remember I didn't listen to the story since I was playing with a bud and we were just rushing to end game. There was a lot of mundane go to A B then C then B then C etc quests.
Has that changed in any way? Also is the story good? Comparable to the story of the single player games or does it feel like "MMO" story?
The MMOs are legitimately bad, they have a derranged cult of followers who will shill it because of stockholm syndrome but its legitimately the worst shit ever; like the FF14 shills unironically say shit like "it gets good 300 hours in!", it never gets good.
The story is genuinely good, but it takes a while to hit its stride. As I said, FF14 2.0 was rebuilt in only a year and they had to cut corners writing-wise as a result, but Heavensward is genuine kino and the game's story doesn't dip below "good" after you hit it.
You should try to get invested in the story from the very start however, since the base game sets up a lot of stuff that pays off further down the line - the Crystal Tower alliance raid storyline for example constantly gets call backs. And as I suggested, starting in Ul'dah is the best way to do this since its starting story is the best of the lot.
>this trash
>good
Yeah, it's pretty good.
xiv cultists really have no standards
Im sorry your taste is shit anon. theres nothing wrong with being a contrarian dont get me wrong.
Could be worse.
Could think XV is unironically good. Now that would be truly terrible.
It is objectively better than XIV
It's kino.
god, even when bending over backwards to frame it in the most moronic light possible, the ending of shb is raw kino.
they have significantly reduced the amount of quests in ARR aswell as put a system that lets you run dungeons with NPCs.
with that said, ARR is the slog part of XIV, very mmo ish and very dull, the game picks up at the end of it during the "Bloody banquet" at the very end of ARR, from this moment on the game gets much, MUCH, better and you also start the Heavensward arc.
truth be told, just speed thru ARR until this banquet scene, and start paying att from there on.
I have tried this game 3 times before sticking with it too, 2 times i got stuck during that 30 or so lvls and quit, the third time i went thru this slog and ended up loving it, what comes after the base game can't even be compared, its a huge leap in quality.
DID YOU JUST FRICKING CALL IT A SLOG!? ITS THE FILTER YOU moron
It's both.
>it's shit on purpose dude
come on now
Youve obviously never guzzled yoshi-p's cum, otherwise you would think its the greatest thing ever
shut the frick up Barry I can think ARR is shit and FFXVI is going to be game of the year
Thats reasonable, Im waiting til it drops on PC
It feels like an MMO story since you have a mute, player created character. You'll be going around helping NPCs with a lot of things. That sort of thing, but that's common in single-player games these days.
But you're description of the gameplay is accurate. You go from A, to B, then C and so forth. And this is all done when you only have a small part of your job's kit. So, the main draw of FFXIV in the early game is the story. Since you didn't pay attention to it, you may still like it if you give it another try. But if you don't like the story, you're not gonna like the experience of playing the game.
At least there's a free trial with the base game and first expansion with no playtime limit. But if you want to register for the free trial, you cannot use your old account if you subscribed with it.
freetrial.finalfantasyxiv.com/
>It feels like an MMO story since you have a mute, player created character.
He's not mute, there are explicit dialogue options. He also talks all the time but the game hides the dialogue from you for some reason.
They should have just voiced the WoL. The way they approach """mutism""" is fricking moronic.
>They should have just voiced the WoL. The way they approach """mutism""" is fricking moronic.
GW2 voiced their protag, and it's much much worse than XIV.
one of their writers once went on a sperg rage at twitter calling people idiots for suggesting branching options for dialogue even if it means not changing the course of action, for the sake of flavour.
it ended up with her and another long time writer being fired the very next day.
You better being mute than spouting cringe because le writer girlboss can't write not twitter talk.
>GW2 voiced their protag, and it's much much worse than XIV.
What makes you think that has to do with the protagonist being voiced and not the dogshit writing?
the protag voice will always convey what the writer wants
how are both not tied? your char will never be "yours" because he is voiced, he will be more of a stranger and less immersive than being silent and just pretending you said whatever the frick you wanna say.
>your char will never be "yours" because he is voiced
He isn't "yours" in FF14, he's entirely pre-written. The dialogue options don't actually change anything. You're always forced to do exactly what the writers want you to do, no matter what.
what do you expect, exactly?
there is a (no), by the way, it's called "abandon quest"
>what do you expect, exactly?
i want FF14 morons to stop pretending the WoL has anything to do with them as players. he's as completely scripted as every other character in the game.
>abandon quest
>still gated behind the quest you abandoned with zero option to progress otherwise
wow freedom
They don't take criticism well anon. And they wonder why theyre called cultists
Even singleplayer RPGs don't have an option to skip the laid out story entirely, lmao.
>Even singleplayer RPGs don't have an option to skip the laid out story entirely, lmao.
There are plenty of single player RPGs that let you change outcomes, actually. Even Dark Souls, which barely has a story, has multiple endings depending on how you do quests.
FFXIV is a visual novel game moron. It only has 1 ending. A book doesn't have multiple endings. It has 1
>A book doesn't have multiple endings. It has 1
Good thing we're talking about a video game then lol
Yeah, every story has to be scripted at some point. Video games are intended to be interactive experiences though, not movies where you literally set down the controller.
The vast majority of video game stories are linear, even in RPGs. That's not a knock against them either most video games have terrible writing no matter how they're structured.
boy, you're a monkey
>never read a "choose your own adventure" book
Soulless childhood, holy shit
>A book doesn't have multiple endings. It has 1
*blocks your path*
And still you have to play through the path laid out almost entirely identically.
And those are singleplayer RPGs, not MMOs that have to take into account thousands of other potential players and having to add on an expansion every 2 or so years that has to flow from one to the next.
There's still a certain bunch of mandatory bosses and the endings amount to just doing a specific sidequest
Or turning around at the end of DS1 lmao
If you wanted a decent example of a game with a skippable story you could've said Morrowind but you can break that shit in half a hundred different ways on top of the intended route
Barry is baiting you anon, this moron does nothin but try to derail threads every fricking day
While the response choices do not impact anything, they are still nice to have
This I cannot deny.
WoL being voiced would be a disaster. Give me nods over GW2-tier performances any day of the week
>might makes right
>fire burns
>I need some space
>Swiftness: Swiftly/Faster!
>Achieving: the life for me!
>I am greatness getting greater.
>You're dumb. You'll die, and you'll leave a dumb corpse.
>I achieve things. I'm an achiever.
man that game was shit
Limsa is far better than Uldah in almost every way. The only reason someone might prefer Uldah is that its characters are important to the story at an earlier time (end of ARR). You even start with Y'shtola rather than Thancred, a trade I'm always willing to make.
If you're staring with FF as a whole
AVOID 15 and 13 as the plague, they are objectively the 2 worst entries in the whole franchise.
everything else is fair game.
1 to 6 had a pixel remaster last year, so you can check any of em, 6 is considered by many as the absolute best.
The original 7-8-9 are on steam, but will require a little modding to fix old pc games stuff, like the OST being MIDI. althou 7 and 9 are regarded as two of the best FF out of all.
10, 10-2 and 12 also got remasters on steam if you want stuff from the PS2 era, Japan considers 10 the best of all, while 12 is in a cult classic position, not bad, but it has it's flaws, it's a very nice game if you like lore and politics, it focus less on the fantasy and more on the war between nations aspect.
11 would be the first mmo, it's an old mmo, everquest style, so prob not a nice thing to try if you don't understand and enjoy that old school hardcore stuff.
13-1-2-3 are the ps3 era entries, as ive said before, very bad.
14 is the 2nd MMO, It's the highest rated FF game since ff12, and hailed by many fans as amongst the top 5(others being 6,7,8 and 10), it still getting updates which make easier for a solo play thru most of the story, meaning you can experience almost all the story without even having to talk to another human being, if you're one of the "anxiety" people who get nervous with human interactions.
as for 15, it's a mess, the story is spread between books, movies, anime and the game itself, it was an aborted attempt of making it a "franchise"
I'd honestly suggest that you start with 14 as it's the most recent, good, and beginner friendly.
the base game and the first xpac are part of the free trial, the team doing 16 were the ones responsible for this first xpac(Heavensward), so you can see what the composer and writer are capable of delivering in the old FF medieval style.
the music of Heavensward is also absolutely amazing
Avoid trash like FFXIV, its an abhorrent trashfire with the worst production value, quality and content in FF history and a garbage MMO at that.
15 is a great start for a true AAA FF, as are 7, 6, 4 for more classic style FF.
https://arch.b4k.co/v/search/image/Hy2PiIov4IZLJpm_Ows5-w/
schizo image
When are you going to start copy pasting posts and attaching a screenshot from a slasher movie again Barry
Sonken is also doing the music for XIV.
Dude just can't stop dropping amazing scores.
>lies of P and FF XVI demos released in the same 24 hour interval
Demos are back and that’s a good thing.
both great demos too but i think XVI's 2in1 style is better
You can play the failed and super forgettable Bravely Default and Octoshart games, turn-based bros.
We will enjoy the new kino.
SOMEONE MADE A LEAK THREAD
ABORT
ABORT
It's just Barry spamming the January "leak" again.
its not, its a real leak
Good thing there is a "this post contains intentional spoilers" option
i already hid it
but careful with barry
>had to sit through re4 shill threads for 1 month
>this stupid generic shit is coming out and have to sit through the board being cluttered by more shill shit
What about the TotK shilling?
I like that so it doesn't count
Zelda threads seem to be autists staying in their own thread actually talking about the game. RE4 and this shit is blatant "LOL THIS GAME IS SO GOOOOOD" and shitting on past games while talking about it, like a console war.
Oh, Zelda threads only kept to themselves and never console warred. Yes, that's the past month I remembered as well.
You aren't subtle at all, Nintendogay. Nintendo games aren't the only ones allowed on Ganker no matter how hard you cry.
>nintendo is mentioned and he seethes like a little b***h
everytime lol, I don't get it
>say everyone else is a shill
>hypocritically say it doesn't count when it's Nintendo
>get called out on it
>LOL SEETHE ABSOLUTELY RENT FREE
Nintendogays are the dumbest mother frickers as always.
>still seething cause he has a boogeyman
>be a living, breathing example of that "boogeyman" literally proving it to NOT be a boogeyman
Again, dumbest mother frickers.
man, some guy on twitter really has you seething
good joke
Tears of the Kingdom wasn't generic
True. TotK was clearly one of the greatest video games of all time. It provided players freedom and creativity on a scale never before seen. Tears of the Kingdom is as imaginative, delightful and empowering as Breath of the Wild and a paradigm for emergent sandbox play. It's a glorious, triumphant sequel to one of the best video games of all time; absolute unfiltered bliss to lose yourself in for hundreds of hours.
What’s more compelling is the game’s nod to the collective story of how human imagination pushes us through our toughest challenges, and sometimes sends us soaring to heights unseen. The Legend of Zelda is one of the greatest franchises in gaming history and this is its best entry to date, automatically cementing it as one of the greatest games of all time.
Breath of the Wild was better. TotK was still good though.
>shilling
>sold 10 million in 2 days
>1 month has passed and there are still countless threads
where are the RE4 threads?
>Nintendo out of nowhere
Why do you stupid frickheads do this??? literally NO ONE mentioned Nintendo before you
Correct. The only thing mentioned was RE4R shilling and FF16 shilling while leaving out the biggest game of the year that released between the two.
You'll survive people liking a new game, anon.
Yeah? And what are you playing, anon?
You just said it. Give it 1 month. No one will be talking about this shit after 1 month.
>generic shit
It's maybe the least generic final fantasy game. They finally ditched the fruitcake clown world aesthetic that they've been using ad nauseam since 2001.
It can't be the least generic when it's westernized shit being made on Unreal Engine, like 90% of games today
>It can't be the least generic when it's westernized shit being made on Unreal Engine
Yes it can. Also FF has always been westernized. FF1 was inspired by a literal dungeons and dragons campaign kek.
It's literally confirmed not Unreal engine, but keep making shit up
>fruitcake clown world aesthetic
>that they've been using ad nauseam since 2001
you mean since 1986
>>it doesn't actually have that much gameplay
>he didnt play the gameplay demo
>picrel
>you mean since 1986
Actually no it's more like it started with FF8 in 1999. 10 cranked the fruitcake up five notches though.
>fruitcake
that was the appeal since ff1 you fricking inbred
You didn't have to look at Amano's fruity art in the actual games, thankfully. 3D ruined that.
i'm doing everything i can to hold myself back from playing the demo, i was already sold by the trailers and bought the game ages ago so i now shouldn't play it.
>people STILL crying about turd-based
jesus christ
It's Ganker
Being contrarian is in their blood
And Im speaking it as Im playing a turn based game at the very moment.
It's an RPGmaker game, FF has long evolved past turn based.
You have countless of realtime games to play.
Meanwhile all I've got left are an increasingly shrinking number of turnbased games.
So I am not particularly welcoming towards turnbased games being made realtime.
Yakuza literally just became a turn based title
You'll survive having one franchise taken from you, I did
Agreed. Yakuza is a more traditional JRPG than Final Fantasy now.
i just wish it was a better turn based combat game. it felt like it lacked depth or something when i played through it. fun game, just not as good as it couldve been
You have countless of turn-based games to play. Octopath Traveler 2 was great, and the new Hawaii Like a Dragon game looks good. You're just a fricking baby.
>You have countless of turn-based games to play.
There are like less than half the number of turn-based games we used to have. Especially proportionally compared to realtime games.
>You have countless of turn-based games to play.
NTA, but not really. There's maybe one good turn-based game every couple years at best.
Every game needs to be muh-action these days.
Not really. Kiseki is pretty much the only turn based JRPG series left and even that is starting to implement more action elements. Anyone who says "there's plenty of turn based games to play" is clearly someone that doesn't play turn based games.
FF has never had good combat anyway. Its turn based combat was always complete shit. Now it has shit real time combat. Wowee.
I don't even get it. I'd say I probably like turn based jrpgs more than action ones but this looks like a damn good ARPG so I have no reason to be mad here.
>but this looks like a damn good ARPG
Sure. But why is it FF16?
>aw yeah I love street fighter!
>and that's why street fighter 7 should be a tower defence game!
>it's genuinely the best tower defence game ever made so there really is no reason to be mad! It's a damn good game!
The game being good is unironically almost completely irrelevant.
Street Fighter 7 should be a fighting game. No matter how good of a game it would be.
Final Fantasy 16 should have been an RPG. No matter how good of a game.
There is nothing odd about this sentiment. Of course for some reason shills are arguing otherwise in full force.
No one whined when Yakuza went JRPG though.
And it’s not like it’s a sudden shift in direction, it slowly build up towards it in the last 22 years ever since XII
nta but Yakuza doesn't have that big of a fan base and most decided not to whine because the game is still Yakuza despite being turn based, in narrative style and in exploration. FFXVI on the other hand is a complete shift in almost all aspects except certain terms and lore, of course there's going to be a bigger backlash.
Yakuza did it better and gave a great reason why it changed, FF is a soulless attempt to get that more western fans in an attempt to boost sales.
I liked Yakuza 7 too for becoming a turn based JRPG. Game series don't have to stick with the gameplay system they started with. Also XV was the game that moved away from turn based combat so why didn't people complain about it then? Oh right it's because this bullshit is a fake criticism by you, Barry who seethes endlessly that people think XV is dog shit. Cope.
>Game series don't have to stick with the gameplay system they started with
Yeah. They don't have to. But they generally should.
No, what game series SHOULD do is constantly try and reinvigorate the series with new elements and changes, FF is a multiple decade old series. If there's any series that should be constantly trying to change things up it's Final Fantasy.
Then there's no reason to say XVI "betrayed the series routes" you fricking idiot. It's about precedence.
>Then there's no reason to say XVI "betrayed the series routes" you fricking idiot. It's about precedence.
No frick you. They've both betrayed Final Fantasy. FF15 (FF11, and FF14 too if you will) betraying the franchise first doesn't all of a sudden make it ok for FF16 to do it. It still absolutely betrayed the franchise just like the rest of them.
Frick them and frick you. FF15 is guilty of all the same sins as FF16. And that means they are both utter garbage.
Lol chill out, you acting cult-like with this betrayal shit lmao
>Also XV was the game that moved away from turn based combat so why didn't people complain about it then?
How young were you when XV released? Because it was getting non-stop shitposted for exactly these reasons.
What fricking history revisionism is this? Turn based gays were malding over XV being action based as soon as it was revealed as XV in 2013.
Nobody had an issue with versus being action based because it was a spinoff
People have literally been malding since ff12 on that regard tbh, and even secondaries who started with ffx (not that that is an inherent sin) getting mad at 13 for deviating from 'pure' turnbased
crybabies are like that
Usually people don't want a franchise to change its genre. Weird, I know.
Main numbered FFs hasn't been turn based for longer than most of Ganker has been alive
Main numbered FFs been shit since XIII, i'm not sure i see your point.
That's separate from crying about them not being turn based anymore
More people being upset about the MMOs than they were about 15 being an action game, why the meltdown now? It's been DECADES
Bro they've been turn based/ATB for 11 main entries. They've been action based for 4 entries in the last 20 years.
Calling out on the garbage action RPG gameplay is a fair point and YOU can cry about it all you want.
If you wanna be mad about about something for half your life that's your problem
>over a quarter of the ff titles are action based
even, hypothetically pretending that this is the first time this has happened, just whining that its not the genre you like isnt actually criticism my dude
the action RPG main entries have been historically garbage (XIII (II-III) and XV) and SE was on the verge of Bankruptcy, YoshiP somehow pulled out a miracle with 2.0 and that's why hes directing XVI.
XVI gameplay ain't that bad, it's just average like any other Action RPG. Or as you morons call it "mid"
>the fact that it is an action rpg means it can only peak at mid
thats not a criticism anon.
it is
anon i totally respect you being disappointed that a game from a series you presumably like is changing its usual genre to one you like less, really. but cmon.
I like FXVI , i don't like the fact that they abandoning what makes FF FF.
For me ff is the story, presentation, world building and music. from my perspective this has been a solid return to form. Nothing will compete with how concisely IV's story is conveyed however.
They are abandoning that to return to what the series is actually all about.
A Wallmart Game of Thrones ?
Princess!
>this lie again
xv made more money in a month than ff14 in 10 years
XV sucks and you got banned 5 times in a single day LOL
It will stop being shit next week and all the boomie doomies are gonna have a good day huffing copium
your shilling will not increase preorders
>This is best best demo I've ever played
you mean watched kek. it's 90% movies.
i prefer turn based combat as well, but i'm glad XVI at least tries to be a spectacle fighter after XV was so incredibly boring. so i have no issues with the new battle system.
Isn't it curious how most XVI fans actually actively dislike the majority of the franchise?
Yup, this is why I compared it to RE4 remake. These stupid frickers aren't final fantasy fans. They are stupid fricking shills who shit on past games and the majority of the fanbase
Is it better when the developers shit on past games?
Like the devs of FF16 do?
to be fair, ff15 deserves to be shit on
Because FF15 was actually a really great game.
I liked RE4 and I liked the remake. Maybe your problem is you're a gay little baby
other than 15 i pretty much enjoyed everything else i played from the franchise, to be fair i haven't played 13
Yeah. You can be a real fan of the franchise and still like 16. But most fans of 16 disliked and still dislike Final Fantasy.
>most fans of 16 disliked and still dislike Final Fantasy
schizo moment
>everyone who likes game is this
wash the gash in your trousers you hysteria-ridden trannies.
>everyone
Make note of how the word used was "most" and not "everyone".
>isn't it curious how when i constantly screech and shit my pants about how 'it not real ff because no 4 homies turnbased' that people get spiteful about it
yeah
Very curious.
>forgetting that MM and OoT remakes sold like crazy and their respective 3DS models were almost cleaned out before Day 1
>ignoring the demands for WW, TP and the released SS
>ignoring how well LTTP and LA have done
Lmao, BoTW is baby's first Zelda but it does a good job of pushing people to the old games which cant be said for FF.
>Isn't it curious how most
I've played every single mainline game and most spin offs, and I liked the majority of them. Im excited as frick for 16, shut the frick up
Is reddit closed or something? Go back
ever notice how turn-based gays only ever played 1, maybe 3 diff FF games? they are worse than pinkhat fans
i've played through 1, 2, 7, 8, 9 & 10. i prefer turn based but i accept the change as long as it actually is a good action based battle system which 15 didn't have but i hope 16 will.
As if. Most fans of turn based Final Fantasy have actually played all turn based Final Fantasies.
>ever notice how turn-based gays only ever played 1, maybe 3 diff FF games?
the reality is that most FF games aren't worth playing. the overwhelming majority of the franchise is complete slop, especially the modern shit.
I've played every single FF game in the main series instead of sequels and I prefer turn-based combat for the series. But if they do action right this time, I'd be down for it.
That being said Lost Odyssey was pure kino and proves that turn based is completely viable in the modern age
FFXVI = Dirge of Cerebus 2
Kino? Dirge of cerberus is good.
I've played every single one, you fricking Black person.
I liked it and I'm buying the game, but let's not get carried away. It has some very awkward cuts in cutscenes and it doesn't actually have that much gameplay.
I think I'm going to start my blackout tonight. Hope I can get a copy early too, apparently copies are already in the wild so I expect massive spoilers to start being spammed tomorrow.
I'll be back to shit on Barry some more after I finish the game.
Calling it again: mystery hood is the Rosfield ancestor, first Dominant of Phoenix, trying to body-hop across his descendants which is why there's a ritual at Phoenix Gate and only the Dominant can enter.
Remember how FFXIII was criticized for it's hallway areas and no towns? None of the shills praising this game seem to
kek
I was thinking about that when I was watching this
?t=228
Reminds me of those 3d castlevania games with miles of empty hallways lol
Because it has multiple open areas and towns? Where are you going with this exactly?
>town with 5 npcs
>lake
>cave
>cave
>cave
>no, that doesn’t countie to me the doomie!! Ò-Ó
>Always walking in a straight line
>"open"
lmfao
It's a montage of different areas, each area is shown for like a second each, how else do you want the character to be controlled you brainless frickwit?
At least show him moving in a different direction outside of battle, literal walking simulator
>UHHH WHY ISNT HE HECKIN SPINNING AND JUMPING AROUND
>THIS HAS TO BE A WALKING SIMULATOR
im sorry your mom didnt stop drinking while you were in the womb
This better?
Yes
have you never seen a video game trailer before, anon?
I was expecting someone arguing that its not a hallway to show some evidence that its not a hallway
Literally the first minute
>inb4 it doesn’t count cope
Kys
I'm not clicking on your homosexual e celebs video, try again
I’m not spoonfeeding you doomie Black person. have a nice day
You're too late, someone already posted a map
Also you you seem very mad for some reason
Good now i know how to feel about the game frfr
Have we seen any footage of towns with the MC actually talking to NPCs? I don't mind if each NPC has a boring 1 repeated line of dialogue, not being able to interact with them is a huge downside if this game still wants to be considered an 'RPG'
The castle in the demo has a bunch of npcs to interact for world building
I think that is a pretty safe assumption to make
Towns and open areas are in the game though. No one is being a disingenuous moron
Remember how they didn't talk about FF13 being hallways at all until release, where the Japanese guide leaked early and people flooded the threads with the pictures showing LITERALLY the whole game is hallways till act 12? They are coming out and saying 16 is mostly linear with some open zones but not open world tier in scope
Literally the second thing you see in the demo is a town and the first "hallway" dungeon still has a few random consumables hidden away in it
But yeah maybe people just aren't complaining about those things because they haven't played 40 hours of it?
Dumbfricks like this clearly didn't play FF13 if they think this game is similar.
Name an FF where this genuinely isn't the case. The game so far has like the exact same amount of NPCs as FFX.
It's absolutely disrespectful to yoshi p and the team when pckek literally portbeg them every chance they get
This game will get a 74 metacritic and it's going to be glorious watching the weebs cope
We'll see in a little while, I guess.
bruh, this is getting 85 minimum entirely based off the cinematic elements and all the journalism mode options. when you add all the actually good shit... i'm expecting to be around TOTK's score.
you're probably right with the 85, i forgot journos only like movie games with no depth. A 97 is a pipedream though
>i'm expecting to be around TOTK's score.
the only chance this game has at hitting TotK scores is if YoshiP cultists upvote spam it, which they probably will to be fair.
what if people just like it a lot?
Yeah, just like how FF14 is a world changing cultural powerhouse that totally isn't completely hated by anyone outside of the cult kek.
So basically no matter how much people like it, you won't acknowledge it anyway?
I mean, normans adored Avengers Endgame, that didn't stop it from being a dogshit movie.
Okay, but all this screams to me is that you've already preemptively made up your mind anyway.
It's bad and anyone who likes it is a shill or has no taste.
Final Fantasy hasn't been a worthwhile franchise in decades, why would I expect it to start now?
Well, a lot of people still seem to like it, so whether or not you think they're wrong, it's accrued some sort of an audience.
the cult?
The YoshiP cult, where they huff a salaryman's farts as their weekly worship ritual.
can you point me to them
look in the mirror
what
here's a screenshot of some of them throwing a cult ritual for a wow player who sucked off FF14 for a few days.
that just seems like people having fun in a game
what's the cult part?
>that just seems like people having fun in a game
where's the gameplay? they're literally just standing around waving glowsticks like zombies.
It’s called socializing anon…you would understand it had you had any friends
it's an mmo which is about social interaction too
how do you mean
mmos are about playing a videogame with other people, not waving glowsticks.
well, mmos are also about social interaction
a lot of the appeal of them was playing with people while also being able to sit down and chat with them before stuff like discord
>YoshiP defense force ACTIVATE
???
i literally just said social interaction is a staple of mmos, or at the least used to be
people used to treat mmos like chatrooms all the time before the advent of stuff like discord
>MY OPINIONS ARE FACT
>no
>LOOK THE CULT IS PROTECTING THEIR MASTER HEHEHE
Well, yeah
They seem to be doing an event together with their friends anon, they seem to be having fun and you look like you are seething at someone else’s good time
>mmos are about
>no true abboman
>players using emotes is anti-mmo
lol
i do not see the similarities, sorry
not sure how liking a thing = being a cult
Do I really need to post the copypasta about the free trial? I can't tell if youre serious or feigning ignorance
what copypasta?
The one about the free trial
https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=ffxiv+free+trial+copypasta
oh
isnt that just a meme
>its just a prank bro
Cults never use memes or symbols
no really
isnt that just a meme
Advertising campaigns are memes as well. I know youre being ignorant on purpose but still.....
i'm just waiting to see where the "cult" part you're so vocal about comes into play
Can I ask you a question? Will you say that ff14 and yoshi-p suck? You dont even need to agree with it.
but why would i say it if i don't believe it?
i am just trying to understand the viewpoint but there's so little here to work with
Youve never told a lie before? Good on you kid
I understand why you ask so many dumb questions now
no, i'm just wondering what the purpose would be of saying something i dont agree with
i don't like kale, so why would i state that i do
Are you okay?
i am pretty well
I would say that a cultist would not be able to say anything against their cult leader, even if they disagreed. Therefore, if you weren't a cultist, you could say something against the cult that you don't actually agree with.
but it's totally normal to not say things you don't believe in???
am i taking crazy pills
Absolutely, have you ever had a job?
Dont know why youre grandstanding on Ganker of all places
sorry, anon, you're just weird
you're not my employer and i'm not obligated to dance to your tune just to pass your weird purity check
hahaha, fricking knew it!
alright
gottem
Was it that hard to just be who you are anon? Be proud of being a cultist!
sure dude
whatever you say i guess
Yeah
Why not just ask for genuine criticism?
There's plenty wrong with 14 and the devs have fricked up recently (recent ultimate sucked, some raid mechanics are getting stale, the post 6.0 msq has been bland). There you go
Players of an MMO actually liking the people who work on the game is an alien concept to him. Be gentle
>I like mr crying small penis man! He said my penis dwarfs his penis in comparison. beeeeeg american peenus!
are you well?
Have you ever seen the chinpokomon episode of south park?
nope
You should watch it, perfectly describes your responses
my responses being curiosity and not being willing to say something i don't believe?
is that somehow a weird thing now?
>genuine curiosity
lmfao
>xiv players are a cult cus uhh glowstick emotes and copypasta
>huh?
>l-listen cultist, just say the game is shit
>but i dont think its shit
>LE SOUTH PARK REFERENCE
I never said the game was shit lmao, youre a ff14 cultist, I thought you knew how to read
>"liking" a soulless, phony multimillionaire whose entire job it is to run damage control and milk as many whales as possible
kek. Square Enix has you losers by the balls.
It's a foreign concept to basically anyone other than FF14 cultists.
It’s cringe as shit and only redditors use it. You won’t see anyone from here or /vg/ posting it unless they are tourists.
lol this guy took the copypasta seriously
are you a 50 year old grumpy boomer or what
This sounds like how a scientologist would respond
He is unfamiliar with the concept of liking things that are generally well-recieved. He can only like things that most people don't. It feeds his shame kink. So when he sees people feeling joy brought about by something, he feels it is unnatural and caused by illicit manipulation of their minds.
What does an e celeb have to do with a nip salaryman
They suck off the salaryman even more than wow players who throw them scraps of validation.
What does that have to do with the image you posted, what are you even talking about
>players like the guy who turned around their mmo and listens to player feedback
>I-IT'S A CULT!!!!!
kek
Was this you, anon? Be honest.
>players in an MMO crowding around one of the most popular streamers while his stream is getting a shitton of views
whoa what a cult, this never happens in any other game
It’s a shadowy cabal that exists in barry’a head
homosexual says if you don't agree that xiv is shit you're part of some secret cult, only he and the higher echelon of the ff community can decide which game is good or bad
he also thinks 13 and 15 are good ff games
Just say its shit, you dont even need to agree with it
I am not sure about 95 but 93-94 is doable if the story is just that good.
85 sounds about right, I fully expect critics to praise the movie game story and criticise the battles for being both too easy and hard because they suck at games.
Piece of shit game. Only snoys and braindead homosexuals are praising it because they got nothing else.
Yeah, naw
Having to wait until the game releases for proper threads is tiring
who do we blame for the proliferation of stagger systems in video games at the expense of normal hitstun
>normal hitstun
explain to the thread why dumbing down gameplay and lowering skill ceiling is better
i don't see how it's a dumbing down. with hitstun added as a mechanic, it's just another attribute the developer can adjust to incentivize usage of one move over another in a particular situation. this is still in the game - certain moves do way more will gauge damage than others and they're the moves that you would expect to outright flatten enemies in other games (titan windup), but idk i personally would prefer if instead of a gauge being affected it gave a guaranteed down state on normal sized humanoid enemies. i just prefer that.
FIND
THE FLAME
THE FLAME
THE FLAME
FIND THE FLAME
>PS5 exclsuive for 1 year
>Square makes up shit like saying it can only play on a PS% cause of some SSD or some shit
>looks like default game of thrones influenced
>the music is stock soulless orchestra shit
>the gameplay was hyped up as playing like DMC since day 1
Lost all fricking interest when the first trailer was shown.
The only time I actually felt "this isn't final fantasy" was when all that mecha shit started showing up, I think it was in FF7
My first games were FF3, 4 and 6.
6 literally starts with mechs before the title screen even shows up.
Every day I think the shazamposters can't possibly portray themselves as even more moronic and every day I'm proven wrong. They're worse than Barry at this point.
where is he where is he where is he
ahhh there he is
barry is black now? the myth evolves
he's always been a shtskin
He’s been doxxed, he’s an Australian aborigine who writes fanfics about fricking his mom, seriously.
hes aboriginal? Well that kinda explains everything
He's some variety of middle eastern irrc. He just lives in Straya to mooch off their welfare, which is why everyone thought he was an abbo for a while.
I kinda want to move to australia, they get a lot of vacation
He is a fricking moron. Because FF15 is guilty of all the same sins as FF16. And are both action game trash that betrayed the franchise.
And yet he loves the former and only hates the latter.
>betrayed the franchise.
woah, better slow down that mtn dew slurping anon, you gonna pop the old grease vein at this rate
oh doomies are now on the "real fan" arc
This game has everything to be one of the best Final Fantasy of the series for me.
So I will kindly stay away from Ganker's incessant doomposting and the spoilers that will follow without a doubt to spite people like me who still enjoy great games, and have the time of my life playing it.
Hope you'll have fun too, XVI brothers.
Same, this is not only GOTY but best FF contender. Playing the game for the first time next week might be a once in a lifetime experience, gotta enjoy every second of it.
Is it worth to spend extra 30 sheckles to get the physical game faster? (26 june instead of 30 june)
>can't like both old and new games
>can't like turn-based and action games
is it autism
autists hate cgangev
I do like turn-based and action games. But that doesn't mean I want my turn-based games to become action games. In fact I very much do not want that.
nobody cares what you want autist
i care about your opinion friend
Was Final Fantasy ever really turn-based outside of the first three and 10?
So why are you complaining about this game over VII Remake?
I like both. I don't want FF to be action, just like I don't want Yakuza to become turn based, or Tales a racing game, or Street Fighter a cooking game. I want a franchise to stay in its own fricking genre.
Soken genius is wasted on generic orchestraslop. God i hate western games so much
Soken have free reign over the music anon, if the music sucks it's because of him
Also, maybe start checking the credit of songs before sucking him, most of the OST from 14 from SHB foward have been a join collab of him and 2 other composers, some of your fav arrangements ain't even Soken's work.
we've heard music that isn't orchestral stuff
>If you like the game, you are a cultist!
kek, how pathetic.
my husband
Someone better start posting spoilers from an early copy soon so I know if I’m buying this thing or not
the game is trash
I've enjoyed the demo
Yeah, I said it.
Leaks should be coming soon right?
thank goodness, grabbed a few
DID THEY NUKE BARNABAS UPLOADS??
I’m listening to it right now homie
This Etrianhomosexual is hilarious.
Your series is dead btw and Nexus was dogshit
hey frick you too buddy
We'll get milf Jill once we timeskip to their thirties, right?
I hope so. I want Ysaylecore Jill.
She doesn't seem to change that much, if at all
I need her to have enough kids so she grows to Tifa's cup size
CLIVE
CLIVE PLEASE
FRICK JILL
SHE FROZE HER OVARIES USING HER EIKON POWERS TO KEEP HER EGGS PRISTINE
CLIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIVVVVEEEE
sorry what did you say?
What are the chances she was forced to marry another man and NTR's clive?
>300 REPLIES
>70IPS
Every single time man, fricking circlejerk cult.
>>>/vg/
And around 100 of those are literally just one guy.
looks fun but im still not buying a ps5
>orchestraslop
pass
You don't know what an orchestra is do you
Ensemble, a mini-orchestra if you will you pedantic frick.
>tranime
you really like that track don't you
Wow, another soken track with a childish twinkly dink lead melody because Japanese composers don't understand how to create texture in music.
Sounds like shit.
>OMG FEMALE HUMMING AND CHANTING OVER A PIANO
>JUST LIKE MY NIER OST
lmao frick this generic shit, this series is so fricking embarrassing at how creatively bankrupt it is. It used to be a series everyone copied, now it shamelessly tries to copy other shit hoping more than 5 million people will buy it.
ok
i still like the music
Why do you think they went with their stupid Game of Thrones look and story.
Jesus fricking christ the difference between this ai stock sounding shit and this
If you blindfolded and told people to guess which one sounded like a Final Fantasy game everyone would say the 13 song
its so easy to get them to come out of the woodwork
Jesus christ this track. My little nuts are quaking.
https://twitter.com/aitaikimochi/status/1668561525341327361?s=20
>Nearly every games get leaked 2 weeks before release
How this game not leaked yet lol
It got leaked in January, the yoshi-P cultists have been in severe damage control over the leaks ever since because every new gameplay and trailer and demo keeps proving the leaks true, so now tjeir copium is "t-they just knew the marketting materials" even though the leaks are getting confirmed from stuff shown in completely different regions.
Show me the sex scene with Clive’s parents, dumbfrick
Literally the scene of a anabella straddling elwin and getting rebuffed
Barry stop ban evading, nobody likes FFXV
XVI detractors are fricking weird, holy shit.
Detractor, singular. It's literally one schizo, he's plagued this board for at least a decade.
>everyone who disagrees with me is my unique boogeyman
what a weird way to go through life.
>everyone who disagrees with me is a cultist
what a weird way to go through life.
>everyone who disagrees with me is a cultist
No, just the XIV cultists.
Which you haven't proven are cultists at all.
Cultists never acknowledge that they're in a cult, anon.
Fair, but most people who point out cults do a much better job than the piss poor effort you've made.
>X is a cult!
>How do you mean?
>URRH WELL... PEOPLE STANDING AROUND A GUY IN AN MMO WAVING GLOWSTICKS AND A COPYPASTA
>That doesn't seem like evid-
>Cultists never acknowledge that they're in a cult! Gotcha!
Sad. Just sad.
>he thinks it wasn't all bait just to whip the cultists into a frenzy
kek. the seething defense force demonstrates the cult more than anything.
>say something stupid
>get called stupid
>ah this is proof that my stupid remark was actually right
Sad. Just sad.
Honestly man, don't take this the wrong way, but are you thinking they are in a cult because you see similarities to your own membership in the Perma Turbo Tard Cult?
one sec *gulp* ah thanks for that fresh load Yoshi
Not him but FFXIV fans after SB are pretty close to Cult like. Yoshida can do no wrong and anything bad that happens to the game is due to WoW players, games like XV and VIIR taking funds from XIV or that SE treats it like a cash cow ignoring that the Revenue says Mobile is in an attempt to shift blame from the Devs. Criticism or generally negativity is frowned upon being labeled as unique dissenters such as Barry/Baztek, WoWjanny aka VauthryJanny, Candyshota, Raid/Diapergays or any currently popular gaming community such as Tendies being brought up cause of ToTK's current lead on GoTY. When their threads get so bad that the genuine players can no longer chat thanks to the majority obsessed with shutting down hate leading to thread deletion they'll swarm other threads, specifically WoW during the lead up to Shadowbringer's launch. ARR and HW had some obnoxiously fervent people but they were never the majority till the end of Stormblood.
>People who like a game like a game
Shocker
>anything bad that happens to the game is due to WoW players
So they echo WoW players, who claim that anything bad said about their game is due to FFXIV players? Gyess both are a cult
>games like XV and VIIR taking funds from XIV-
People have different narratives for why they're not pleased with xyz development. And?
>Criticism or generally negativity is frowned upon being labeled as unique dissenters such as Barry/Baztek
Who is a real thing with a storied history
>WoWjanny
?
>Candyshota
?
>Raidgays
Different subsets of a game don't like each other. Next you'll call raiders a cult for crying about limsagays all day.
All you've proven is that a lot of people have different opinions and scapegoats for something happening, which happens for literally every game.
You got your shitposts removed yesterday including the posts claiming not to be you
Nah there's a weird Etriangay in every FF thread up atm.
Probably mad that his franchise is dead since Atlus can only shit out Persona clones now
Did you just implied that FF is not fricking dead, and frick you i'm posting Etrian as much as i like
Dungeon crawlers are fricking dead as a genre and Atlus is going to be milking Persona for the rest of your life.
I'd say move the frick on but you seem physically unable to so keep yelling at the clouds, you're not getting any younger though.
>forgetting the PQ series
Black person secondary leave
Now try posting your own opinion instead of repeating what others have said with about 35% less butthurt
>doesn't even disagree with it
lmao
Anon, you can't expect me to reply to copypasta right?
It's just Barry trying to bait a fight between two fandoms.
Don't worry, they'll move on to Armored Core 6 soon and spam how it is a souls clone.
They pretty much got nothing since the demo dropped.
You have no idea.
?t=96
The best part of the entire demo (the music).
b***h we all know the bast part was the ifrit chase at the end, that shit was intense
Aaaand another event!
For christs sake, just give me the game already
>more spoilers
Please stop
That one is just meant for Japan, whose interest only seemed to have skyrocketes after the demo.
Proof? Everyone in the English speaking internet has been so busy talking about the demo, I don't think I've seen anyone bother to look at how JP reacted to it.
My nip internet recommended me shit tons of nips playing demo live. It's trending on nip twitter (they like it) and some shippers already board Clive x Jill ship lmao.
I've noticed more artwork popping up on twitter from JPs.
"What? Did they explain how the women's good fundamentals make up for their inability to dunk?"
XVI bros, pls invite me to the discord
>Don't want game because of XV and how shit Square has been these past years
>Play demo
>Want the game
Holy damn, it's almost like this is why demos are a good thing.
Man, the cultists get really pissed off when they get called cultists. I bet it happens to them a lot.
Shut up, cultist.
Yep and proud of it!
Is it really that hard anon?
Lmao cultist trying to be zany about it. Seems the leader trained their little cult members well.
How am I a cultist anon?
Cultists don't typically acknowledge that they're in a cult.
What do you mean?
morons also don't typically acknowledge that they're stupid pieces of shit, what's your point?
>Barry is able to make multiple posts at the same time without a cooldown timer
XIV sisters he’s getting stronger….
>412 replies
>91 posters
It's RE4R all over again.
and just like re4 this manufactured hype will dies down a week after release and no one will ever mention this game again
Shut up esl
>15 is a great start for a true AAA FF
>ff15 has combined goty and genre goty of 41
https://gotypicks.blogspot.com/2016/09/2016-game-of-year.html?m=1
https://gotypicks.blogspot.com/2016/09/2016-game-of-year-genre-awards.html?m=1
>ff14 a realm reborn has combined goty and genre goty of 1
https://gotypicks.blogspot.com/2013/09/2013-game-of-year.html?m=1
https://gotypicks.blogspot.com/2013/09/2013-game-of-year-genre-awards.html?m=1
>ff14 heavensward has combined goty and genre goty of 0
https://gotypicks.blogspot.com/2015/09/2015-game-of-year.html?m=1
https://gotypicks.blogspot.com/2015/09/2015-game-of-year-genre-awards.html?m=1
>ff14 stormblood has combined goty and genre goty of 0
https://gotypicks.blogspot.com/2017/09/2017-game-of-year.html?m=1
https://gotypicks.blogspot.com/2017/09/2017-game-of-year-genre-awards.html?m=1
>ff14 shadowbringers has combined goty and genre goty of 2
https://gotypicks.blogspot.com/2019/10/2019-game-of-year.html?m=1
https://gotypicks.blogspot.com/2019/10/2019-game-of-year-genre-awards.html?m=1
Frick off Barry you got banned five times in one day LOL
kek, even when pretending to just be a neutral FF fan, Barry literally cannot help himself jumping back in XVs wiener in defence.
It’s very clear that there’s a group on here who viciously attack anybody who shits on this game. You all come off as cultists, just saying. That said, I haven’t been this excited for an FF since 12. Please don’t call me barry
shut up barry, I bet you dont even have that vet tattoo homosexual
>they showed every eikon fight
>they told uf there are two timeskips
> they are also posting the themes of all the characters
Why? Is there anything we don't know at this point?
640740387
>15 is a great start for a true AAA FF
Ok, now you got to be baiting
XIV cultists can't stop coping at reality
There's a reason XV sold 10m faster than any FF in history
FF14 was 1.45m at launch month
FF15 6m at launch month
15 towers over 14 in actual paying customers
>Creative Business Unit III
Fricking why, who the frick wants to be part of a team with a name like that.
It's a badge of pride now
Same reason you'd want to be in CBUI making FF7?
Or any company with internal divisions
SE has 4 game divisions
Creative Business Unit 1 which has FF7R/FF13/Mobius FF, KH3/KH4, SaGa, SoP FFO, Dissidia NT, KH spinoffs devs and more
Creative Business Unit 2 which has FFXV, DQ11/DQ12, DQ10, Nier, Octopath/Live a Live/Bravely Default devs and more
Creative Business Unit 3 which has FF14, FF16 and DQ Builders team
Creative Business Unit 4 which has mobile mainly with FFBE and all the other mobile stuff
Aside from that they have
Advanced Technology Division which does R&D on tech stuff
Image Works which was previously called Visual Works, their CG cinematic department
Then their blockchain division
From the 2000s the divisions were called
1st Production Party which did most of their AAA and hand-held games
2nd Production Party which did lower budget stuff
3rd Production Party which did MMO
etc
Then in 2013 they restructured to Business Divisions 1-10, then added 11 and 12 later, then merged then back into SE
Those 12 Business Divisions labelled Business Division 1, Business Division 2, Business Division 3 etc
Then in 2019 SE restructured and consolidated the 11 Business Divisions into 4 Creative Business Unit
>Then in 2019 SE restructured and consolidated the 11 Business Divisions into 4 Creative Business Unit
yfw the Rejoining is just a metaphor of internal SE politics
I want to frick Hugo
>spend entire thread shitposting against a game
>lol. Low IP huh....cultists 😉
I mean it does kind of show that the majority of the people who care about XVI are FF14 losers.
>I mean it does kind of
stopped reading there, stop talking like a woman. 14onlies are fricking morons btw
Which is incredibly ironic given he's the one posting the most with the same IP.
It's almost as if....that was the point I was making....
Can't be because that's the point I was making and I'm too smart to repeat your point reworded because I didn't notice the irony in your post. You must be mistaken.
no no you don't get it, I spend the entire day opening XVI threads to spam the same copypastas and images just to show you how much I am above this
Hold on guys, Im sucking yoshi-pee's tiny rice wiener
Kinda gay bro
Seems to me like the people railing against XVI are more cultlike than the people that are positive about the game.
You're wrong because it's not people, it's person.
>heheh rent free.jpg
Did you even read the handbook?
didnt look at the gameplay, but i really liked the characters and dialogue thus far.
when i compare this to FF7 Remake, FF16 feels way more believable. FF7 Remake characters felt so forced and unauthentic, like they are all just really bad actors. Didnt think square could still do something that doesnt feel like kingdom hearts cringe
Yeah the voice acting in FF7R is pretty bad. Aerith's line in the Rebirth trailer was delivered so horribly, shit sounded like a 4kids anime dub
I'm not saying XVI's voices are perfect (Joshua sounded really lame when he was fighting Ifrit) but overall it sounds a lot more natural
yeah they arent outstanding compared to other games, but they are very good compared to other recent Final Fantasies
It's cause JP is the base language for 7R. They used Japanese people for the voices and the motion capture. 16 uses Western actors for the voices and motion-capture as the base version.
stfu you disingenuous morons
Barry. You're brown. You smell. The only thing people hate more than you is FFXV.
What's with blatant shills? I see them everywhere now. They must be really panicking if that's how they handle things now LOL
Imagine spending your whole day lurking Ganker to spam the same shit over and over for the past 10 years...
I truly pitty you barry, I really do
Uh oh, HERE COMES BARRY
What a character
why are tabata jizzgarglers like this
SHUT THE FRICK UP LARRY
Barry is approaching a critical meltdown with each day we get closer to release. What the frick is gonna happen to him once it's release day?
I wonder if he's ever realized that he's basically a ff15 cultist
I wonder if you ever realized that most XIVgays are what Barry is to XV. Cultlike fervor towards their respective game. XIVgays and XVgay have forever poisoned the well of FF discussion
I'll wonder for you now.
Aaand, nope. Sorry.
pretty disingenuous to imply it's remotely close to being comparable.
Does anyone know if the properties of magic shot change based what eikon is equipped, or if it's just an aesthetic change.
https://twitter.com/search?q=ff16%20%E7%B3%9E&src=typed_query
Wow Japanese fans are vocal about the demo and they are not happy.
Bought a PS5 and deluxe edition fioor 16 after trying the 10/10 demo. Feels good to be able to not only enjoy superb quality games, but to also know it makes Barry and his ilk here seethe.
I too am moronic
>cultistcultistcultist
>what makes it a cult
>UHMM... AH.. HERE'S A SCREENSHOT OF PEOPLE STANDING AROUND IN AN MMO EMOTING
wow... revelations abound today
>the gaijin know
>SHUT IT DOWN
the poo aussie has never had people hang around near him so he assumes 2+ people being in the same space is a cult
i wonder if he's ever seen wow in its heyday
sat and chatted with people a bunch in goldshire (not argent dawn or moon guard) or stormwind during vanilla
Obviously you were in a wow cult
All those people in a relay in warframe? cult as well
i guess i was
i guess mmos are only for silently killing things together
Have you heard of the critically acclaimed MMORPG World of Warcfrat? With an expanded free trial which you can play through the entirety of Burning Crusade and the award-winning Wrath of the Lich King expansion up to level 60 for free with no restrictions on playtime.
>Blizzard being that generous
kek
Those games have legitimate cults they just arent as obnoxious as the ff14 shills here
As someone who's rped in mmos for over a decade i can assure you i can find these people in ANY mmo. I've found these people in conan fricking exiles.
Yeah, it's been my typical experience in MMOs as well.
Hell, used to be a time half a decade or so ago when WoW players would beg to get the kind of interaction XIV still has today. But now it's actually bad for some reason because... cult, I guess.
>wow players want a glorified second life
Just the trannies
>second life
Yeah, that's the cope now.
Used to be a time wow players wanted actual social interaction beyond just calling people Black person for breaking their keystone.
blizzard only listened to the poopsockers whose only social interaction was in raids. They 'majority' of the playerbase vehemently did not housing, toys, dances or anything like that because muh spreadsheets
Yeah, so the people actually wanting MMOs to be MMOs (include social interaction) waned, leaving only the people who wanted number go up.
>But now it's actually bad for some reason because
literally started with asmon assuming that a large chunk of positivity was 'toxic' positivity and his mouthbreather audience spread that shit like wildfire before asmon could even try the game and prove himself wrong.
He has a way of ruining shit, even inadvertently.
Wish he'd just stuck to WoW.
>the kind of interaction XIV still has today
The only "interaction" in FFXIV is leaning on walls in limsa and afk dancing at the LGBTQ+ nightclubs. That's not the kind of interaction anyone means when they talk about socially driven mmos. That's literal Second Life garbage kek.
My condolences for your social condition.
any highly moddable game will bring >>them<<
Conan erpers are the same that use Skyrim
a lot of the mods are the same too
YOU CULTIST YOU ARE BETRAYING US TRUE FF FANS CULTIST CULTIST CULTIST
SAVE ME Black personMAN AAAAA
Boomer here. If you want role play and turn based why not just play Octopath or DQ games? SE have made it obvious FF is their broad audience Call of Duty style game. They're never going to make it complex or difficult.
>play xiv
>someone walks up to me
>he does an emote at me and says hi
>he doesn't even ask for my raider.io or warcraft logs or call me a Black person
God i hate these fricking yoshitpiss cultists
>wow refugee becomes a cultist
many such cases
You're starting to sound like a cultist yourself, only ever throwing out the same rote replies and clichés without the ability to stray from them.
>n-no you!
good one
it's good
final fantasy?